WEBVTT - Work in Progress: Melanie Lynskey

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<v Speaker 1>Hey everyone, it's Sophia. Welcome to Work in Progress. Hello friends,

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<v Speaker 1>we have a guest you have all been waiting for,

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<v Speaker 1>asking for, excited for. Today, we're joined by the iconic

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<v Speaker 1>Melanie Lynsky on the podcast Melanie has become an industry staple.

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<v Speaker 1>She has amassed a plethora of gorgeous, thought provoking roles

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<v Speaker 1>across film and television over the course of thirty years,

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<v Speaker 1>and we are all obsessed with her latest role starring

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<v Speaker 1>opposite Christina Ritchie in the ten time Emmy nominated Showtime

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<v Speaker 1>series Yellowjackets. Soon, Melanie is leading a film called Pike

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<v Speaker 1>River opposite Robin Malcolm, directed by Robert Sarkis, which touches

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<v Speaker 1>on the profound impact of a disaster in New Zealand.

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<v Speaker 1>We recently got to fangirl her on HBO's critically acclaimed

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<v Speaker 1>The Last of Us, and today we're going to dig

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<v Speaker 1>into what inspires her and motivates her as an artist,

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<v Speaker 1>a parent, a spouse, and the coolest girl any of

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<v Speaker 1>us knows. Let's dig in with Melanie Lynskey.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Hi, Hi, I'm so glad you're here, so thank

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<v Speaker 2>you for having me. Thanks so much to me, so

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<v Speaker 2>much to me.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like life is so crazy and since the pandemic,

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<v Speaker 1>no one hangs out, which is okay because everyone it's crazy,

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm like, sometimes I just have to figure out

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<v Speaker 1>a way to bamboozle people to come sit here, just.

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<v Speaker 2>So I can squeeze you. Yeah, until I know. I know,

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<v Speaker 2>I feel the same Easton.

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<v Speaker 1>This is obviously a side note, but like this, I've

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<v Speaker 1>known for so long. You're one of those people I

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<v Speaker 1>have that deep feeling with where I'm like, we never

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<v Speaker 1>are in the same place, so we don't really hang out.

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<v Speaker 2>But I am convinced.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't mean this in the way that fans

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<v Speaker 1>say it to me, and I'm sure they say it

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<v Speaker 1>to you. I mean it in a real way where

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, she's kind of my best friend, only I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know it, Like.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I feel the same way.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like if we hung out all the time,

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<v Speaker 1>you would know my you would just be one of

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<v Speaker 1>the first people i'd call. I don't see you a lot,

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<v Speaker 1>but you make me feel safe that way, like the

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<v Speaker 1>way my closest friends make me feel.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the loveliest thing you could possibly say, And I

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<v Speaker 2>feel so the same. And it's funny and I felt

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<v Speaker 2>it from the moment I meet you. Yeah. I was

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<v Speaker 2>just like, oh yeah, I was like, oh hi, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>yeah we where were we?

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<v Speaker 1>You had that cute little house in like Eagle Rock

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<v Speaker 1>or an Achoo.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because we meet when you worked with Jimmy with

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<v Speaker 2>my ex husband. Yes. Yeah, you say that so gently

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<v Speaker 2>and kindly. I love that.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have the same feeling about mine. So well

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<v Speaker 1>done you.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it's good. I'm glad my daughter's like fascinated with him.

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<v Speaker 2>Really yeah. I accidentally said 's husband in front of

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<v Speaker 2>her one day and she was like, oh mommy, and

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<v Speaker 2>she was like, did you kiss him? Oh my god?

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<v Speaker 2>I said yeah, I sure did a bunch of times.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah I know. I was like, and I kissed other

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<v Speaker 2>people too. It's good for her to know. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>want her to have the like well sure princes singular

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<v Speaker 2>princes fantasy, you know, like where she's like there's one

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<v Speaker 2>true love, like I can't stand it. Yeah. Oh how

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<v Speaker 2>old is she? No? Six? Wow?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so you're really in it. Yeah, it's it's really funny.

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<v Speaker 1>My partner has kids. Oh yeah, therefore and about to

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<v Speaker 1>be three. And I don't remember exactly what it was,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was something about you know, blenda family for us,

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<v Speaker 1>and her little best friend at school has two moms

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<v Speaker 1>and one of the other kids at school has two dads,

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<v Speaker 1>and so everyone's you know, yeah, there's all these different families, and.

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<v Speaker 2>To kids, it's so obvious.

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<v Speaker 1>But someone said something in front of her about Oh

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<v Speaker 1>it was us. We were going to a wedding, and

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<v Speaker 1>she was like, but what's a wedding?

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<v Speaker 2>And we were like, oh.

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<v Speaker 1>How do you how do you explain to a four

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<v Speaker 1>year old what a wedding is? And we said, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you know how people have mommies and daddies and yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and usually you know, if you don't have two houses

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<v Speaker 1>with you know, two mommies and bonus parents and gigi's

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<v Speaker 1>and mimmys and you know, big extended families, some people

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<v Speaker 1>just have two people they live with in a house.

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<v Speaker 1>And sometimes the mommy and daddy or the mommies or

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<v Speaker 1>the daddies are married.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, it's.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, how do you say it's a ceremony

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<v Speaker 1>that it gives you a tax break?

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<v Speaker 2>Like, I don't know how to explain any of this

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<v Speaker 2>to a child. And so we showed her some pictures.

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<v Speaker 1>From weddings and When we got home, we showed her

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<v Speaker 1>pictures of our friends who got married and they're like,

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<v Speaker 1>very cool elder lesbians in their sixties.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this very cute wedding.

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<v Speaker 1>And the immediate feedback was, wow, Auntie Cindy looks so pretty,

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<v Speaker 1>and Auntie Michelle looks so pretty, and.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, look at those look at the big trees.

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<v Speaker 1>Because we were in Palm Springs. She's very into the

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<v Speaker 1>palm trees. And then she turns and goes, this looks fun,

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<v Speaker 1>and we said, yeah, weddings are fun, and she goes, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna marry Ruby, who's her best friend at school.

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<v Speaker 1>We were like, so cute, Yes, sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, whatever you want. Oh my god, I overhood my daughter.

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<v Speaker 2>The other day, a babysitter who hasn't been with us

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<v Speaker 2>for a while was there and Kahi, my daughter, was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I have a crush on Levi and I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>marry Levi. And her babysitter was like, oh, I thought

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<v Speaker 2>you had a crush on Ione, who was her best friend,

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<v Speaker 2>and she goes, well, she's my ex girlfriend, but we're

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<v Speaker 2>still friends. So I heard Sophie just that laughing so much. Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>it's so fun. The stuff they say, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 2>she's my ex girlfriend. It's wild. You're like, where did

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<v Speaker 2>you learn I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, maybe now she has context for yeah face two, Yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>I love it. That's cute. But yeah to the kids,

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<v Speaker 2>kids are not like, wait, why are two women marrying

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<v Speaker 2>each other? They're just like, oh, yeah, They're like cool, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>these people are in love. Those people are in well

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<v Speaker 2>we are.

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<v Speaker 1>Really we're jumping into kids and real present. But interestingly enough,

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<v Speaker 1>the place I love to start with people is connected

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<v Speaker 1>because so many people know you, especially you from the

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<v Speaker 1>iconic nature of your filmography, all the movies you've given

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<v Speaker 1>us and the shows you've given us, the treats you've

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<v Speaker 1>given us as viewers. And I always think this question

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<v Speaker 1>is more interesting for people with you kids, because I

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<v Speaker 1>think about how an audience really meets you in your work,

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<v Speaker 1>and I wonder about who people were before they were known.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you got to kind of put a little

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<v Speaker 1>wrinkle in time and walk into the park and see

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<v Speaker 1>yourself at your daughter's age, would you see yourself in her?

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<v Speaker 1>Like would you as an adult go oh there I

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<v Speaker 1>am yeah? And do you think you see that part

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<v Speaker 1>of yourself and your kid.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know that I do. I mean, I see

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<v Speaker 2>some of myself and my child, and I just got

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<v Speaker 2>emotional about it last night, so I'm probably gonna get

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<v Speaker 2>emotional again because I just she's a very deeply feeling

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<v Speaker 2>child and her need to express herself and say how

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<v Speaker 2>she's feeling is so great, and she can't sit around

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<v Speaker 2>with an emotion. She drives her crazy. And I was

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<v Speaker 2>the same, Like I felt things very deeply, but I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't necessarily have like a safe place to get them out.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I'm the oldest of five, my household was very

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<v Speaker 2>busy a lot of the time, and I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>It was just my husband and I were both with

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<v Speaker 2>our daughter and like holding her and listening to something

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<v Speaker 2>that she was like outraged about, and I was like, gosh,

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<v Speaker 2>this would have felt nice. I have two parents who

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<v Speaker 2>were just on your level. Just like, tell me about it,

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<v Speaker 2>tell me how that felt. I understand that you're angry.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm so sorry, you know, And I was like, God,

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<v Speaker 2>that would have been amazing. And I think I love

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<v Speaker 2>the confidence that she has because of it. I love

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<v Speaker 2>the way she feels totally fine to talk about her

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<v Speaker 2>feelings and she understands who she is, and I just yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so the little version of myself that never really felt

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<v Speaker 2>like it was okay to do that. I think also though,

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<v Speaker 2>that's why I fell in love with acting when I

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<v Speaker 2>was so young. I was like, Oh, you're allowed. You

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<v Speaker 2>can get on the stage and be whoever you want

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<v Speaker 2>to be. You're allowed to be loud, You're allowed to

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<v Speaker 2>be loud, You're allowed to feel different things. I really

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<v Speaker 2>did understand the aspect of taking something from your own

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<v Speaker 2>life and channeling it into your work, even when I

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<v Speaker 2>was quite young. The catharsis of it, you know, and

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<v Speaker 2>I got kind of addicted to it, and so I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know if I would have necessarily found it to

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<v Speaker 2>be such an outlet for myself if I i'd been

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<v Speaker 2>allowed to express whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, Yeah, maybe if you hadn't been in that eldest

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<v Speaker 1>darter role, you wouldn't have found your art. Yeah, but

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<v Speaker 1>that's so interesting that you know, from not having had it,

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<v Speaker 1>how to give it to your kid.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, and I'd probably go a little overboard. But also,

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<v Speaker 2>is there any such thing as going overboard when it's

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<v Speaker 2>like listening to your child? I don't. I don't think so. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>because here's the thing, that I think.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's not like there's some solution, right or some equation.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we're not talking about math. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you mentioned she's six, You're not You're not over indulging

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<v Speaker 1>a twenty year old. Yeah, though, I hope when your

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<v Speaker 1>kid is twenty you love listening to her.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, hope she wants to talk to me about them,

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<v Speaker 2>of course.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's like what I think about, especially when they're little,

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<v Speaker 1>is the more you can give them and the more

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<v Speaker 1>kindness you can show them, and the more you can

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<v Speaker 1>permit their feelings, the more you'll be able to help

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<v Speaker 1>them refine. Yeah, those feelings, and they're I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>we're the generation we're all our therapists talk to us

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<v Speaker 1>about having a toolkit because clearly our parents didn't have any.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's like she will be more adept at using

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<v Speaker 1>her tools, yeah, sooner, because you've given her the space

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<v Speaker 1>to identify the feelings first and then eventually to start

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<v Speaker 1>learning what the tools are.

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<v Speaker 2>I hope. So yeah, Like I remember she was like

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<v Speaker 2>eighteen months old or something and she fell down and

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<v Speaker 2>she started really crying, and there was a family member

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<v Speaker 2>there who was like, you're okay, you're okay, and it

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<v Speaker 2>was very hard for me to speak up, but I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, we actually don't know if she's okay, Like

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<v Speaker 2>that's not our body. So I never want to tell

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<v Speaker 2>her she's okay. I want her to figure out when

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<v Speaker 2>she's okay. And you know, for a while, she would

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<v Speaker 2>really react every time she got hurt, even a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a bit like you are actually okay. But

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<v Speaker 2>I also was like, I'm going to let her figure

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<v Speaker 2>it out. And she's now much more resilient, like she'll

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<v Speaker 2>fall down and she'll be like, I'm okay. I want

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<v Speaker 2>to tell someone that they're okay. Like it's such an

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<v Speaker 2>odd instinct for me and something that we just grew

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<v Speaker 2>up with, being like you're fine, you're fine, And then

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<v Speaker 2>it's like you start to lose track of your internal

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<v Speaker 2>compass that is telling you with it you're fine. I

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<v Speaker 2>just wanted her to be able to decide. I think

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<v Speaker 2>that's really beautiful. I think and listen.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't pretend to know what it was for our parents,

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<v Speaker 1>but it really does seem like our generation of women

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<v Speaker 1>was very much raised to have everything be okay, as

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<v Speaker 1>long as everything was people pleasing and polite and overachieving

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<v Speaker 1>and you got good grades, and you made sure you

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<v Speaker 1>looked nice, and you made sure you took care of

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<v Speaker 1>everybody else.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, very much.

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<v Speaker 1>And to unlearn that, to learn that you're allowed to

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<v Speaker 1>be lowed, to learn that you're allowed to express feelings,

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<v Speaker 1>to learn that you're allowed to be angry, that it's human.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh god, it's such a journey. Did did art help

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<v Speaker 2>you get there? Do you think maybe before you even knew? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess so. But I always had trouble. It was

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<v Speaker 2>always the hardest thing for me to access. And I

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<v Speaker 2>think just because it's so ingrained in us as women

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<v Speaker 2>like to not be angry. And I never felt like

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<v Speaker 2>it was justified. I never felt like the circumstances had

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<v Speaker 2>warranted it. You learned to push things down. You're like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>how did I play a part in this? You know,

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<v Speaker 2>also like codependent and all that stuff. But I went

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<v Speaker 2>to a place and did like five days straight of

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<v Speaker 2>therapy after I broke up with Jimmy, because I was

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<v Speaker 2>going a little crazy, and so I did a very

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<v Speaker 2>intensive five days and one of the things I had

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<v Speaker 2>to do was just be angry. I had There were

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<v Speaker 2>like all these plastic like foam blocks and I had

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<v Speaker 2>to hit them with a baseball bat. And initially I

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<v Speaker 2>think I was just like, oh, you know, like just

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<v Speaker 2>that seems fine, and my therapist was like encouraging me

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<v Speaker 2>to go a little further. And by the end of it,

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<v Speaker 2>she and I were both just weeping, Like she was

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<v Speaker 2>standing there weeping with me, because there were so many

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<v Speaker 2>years that were built up of things I never felt

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<v Speaker 2>like it was okay to be angry about. And I

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<v Speaker 2>realized like, oh, I'm scared that I'll start feeling angry

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<v Speaker 2>and then I'll just be better and angry forever. I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't understand letting it out and moving through it and

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<v Speaker 2>being a more healed and healthy person. Yeah, and so

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<v Speaker 2>that was the beginning of it. Wow, Yeah, it was great.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll be back in just a minute, but here's a

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<v Speaker 2>I went through.

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<v Speaker 1>Something similar leaving leaving a job and knowing that I

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<v Speaker 1>had to, but also being confused because we don't do

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<v Speaker 1>that in our industry, right, and we certainly don't do

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<v Speaker 1>that to protect ourselves. How dare you, ma'am?

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<v Speaker 2>You know?

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<v Speaker 1>And I went to a similar place. I did a

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<v Speaker 1>five day intensive and really had to start to figure

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<v Speaker 1>out how to process, and weirdly, the thing that helped

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<v Speaker 1>me begin to understand that I deserve to be angry

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<v Speaker 1>was when I finally started to share with some of

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<v Speaker 1>my closest people and they were so taken aback and

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<v Speaker 1>then so outraged, and I was like, oh, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>I felt like a baby because I was having something

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<v Speaker 1>mirrored and learning that that's how humans feel, and going, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm allowed to feel this. And then it took me

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<v Speaker 1>years to work through some of that, as you said,

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<v Speaker 1>because there was a peer where I was like, am

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<v Speaker 1>I just going to be enraged forever?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>But the weirdest thing is I had to learn that

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<v Speaker 1>actually falling in love with my anger like learning to

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<v Speaker 1>cultivate it and listen to it, and the way you

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<v Speaker 1>talk about listening to your daughter, I had to listen

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<v Speaker 1>to it. And when I loved it, it was like

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<v Speaker 1>years of armor fell off of me. I felt the

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<v Speaker 1>softest and most patient, but also solidly boundaried I'd ever

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<v Speaker 1>felt in my life. And I was like, is this

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<v Speaker 1>a thing people do?

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<v Speaker 2>It's well, yeah, that's so beautiful. Do we just get

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<v Speaker 2>to do this? But I know it's funny sometimes how

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<v Speaker 2>it really does take someone else looking at you and

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<v Speaker 2>being like that is not okay. Yes for you to

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<v Speaker 2>go oh like I for about ten years, I had

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<v Speaker 2>a very very restrictive eating disorder, and I was so

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<v Speaker 2>unkind to myself and I would eat like a certain

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<v Speaker 2>number of calories a day and if I went anything over,

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<v Speaker 2>I would grow up. I was never like a bingee

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<v Speaker 2>person or anything like that. It just was like very restrictive.

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<v Speaker 2>And I had a boyfriend when I was twenty one

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<v Speaker 2>and we were living together and kind of was like

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<v Speaker 2>something's going on. And when I talked to him, I

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<v Speaker 2>shared it with people before and people had been like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I hate my body too, I haven't eating, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>And I cheered it with him, and I remember him

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<v Speaker 2>just looking at me and saying, that's so violent. And

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<v Speaker 2>I never thought. I was like oh, he said, I

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<v Speaker 2>can't believe you've been doing that to yourself. And then

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<v Speaker 2>he just cried and he was like I'm so sorry,

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<v Speaker 2>You're so perfect, You're so beautiful, and it was this compassionate.

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<v Speaker 2>It shook me. I just was really like it changed

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<v Speaker 2>something like just to see somebody like witness it and

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<v Speaker 2>just say like that's not okay. And that was the

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<v Speaker 2>beginning of my recovery, which was pretty Yeah, I'm very

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<v Speaker 2>very grateful. Yeah, you sometimes do need somebody to.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, someone mirroring you so honestly and authentically and from

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<v Speaker 1>a place of kindness. Yeah, not to minimize excuse you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it struck me earlier when you were saying like, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>all these sort of concessions that women get taught to make,

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<v Speaker 1>and you don't even realize how many you are making.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I think something that happens to us a lot too,

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<v Speaker 1>to divest us from our anger is well, it could

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<v Speaker 1>have been worse. Yes, Oh yeah, that guy is a creep,

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<v Speaker 1>but he didn't fill in the blank. Yeah, this was terrible,

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<v Speaker 1>but you didn't fill in the blank. There's always a

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<v Speaker 1>couching of Well, it was unfortunate.

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<v Speaker 2>But not awful. I sometimes awful things are just awful.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And in a way, this man who just had

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<v Speaker 1>never been taught to minimize his feelings, i'd bet didn't

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<v Speaker 1>minimize yours and so you could stop. Yeah, it wasn't like, oh, well,

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<v Speaker 1>you're trying to be an actress and all actresses are

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<v Speaker 1>on a diet or whatever gross disgusting thing they love

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<v Speaker 1>to tell us. When we were young. You know, the

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<v Speaker 1>industry was so toxic and so icky, and I bet

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<v Speaker 1>there are so many women who were given.

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<v Speaker 2>Well you're you're just strict with yourself. Oh, you're just

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<v Speaker 2>very disciplined.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, no, I'm being violent with myself. Actually, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a big shift. Yeah, when did that develop for you?

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<v Speaker 1>If you don't mind me asking about it, I never

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<v Speaker 1>want to.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, like around early puberty. Okay, Like I already

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<v Speaker 2>was very I was like a very regular child. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think my mother would mind me saying she

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<v Speaker 2>has had issues with her eating, and I think, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you see particular things being modeled and people not eating.

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<v Speaker 2>There was a lot of like weird food talk in

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<v Speaker 2>our house. And you know, I already felt so self

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<v Speaker 2>conscious and so aware of what my body looked like

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<v Speaker 2>and not being like a stick thin little child, just

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<v Speaker 2>a normal, regular child. And then my body started changing

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<v Speaker 2>and I like freaked out. I just was like, how

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<v Speaker 2>can this happen? I already was trying to make peace

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<v Speaker 2>with what it was, and I also felt very vulnerable.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I was reading some like teenage girls magazine

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<v Speaker 2>like Believe Me, and I was like, oh, this is

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<v Speaker 2>a great idea, like it just seemed like such an

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<v Speaker 2>quick click fix. Yeah, and then I yeah, it mostly

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<v Speaker 2>was just very very restrictive, which I was raised for,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. And yeah, the very long yeah, ten years

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<v Speaker 2>of just thinking also thinking about food so much. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>thinking about my body so much, looking at myself in

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<v Speaker 2>the mirror like as parts parts of a body, like

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<v Speaker 2>this part, that part, what's wrong with this? What's wrong

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<v Speaker 2>with that? And not taking myself in as a human being,

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<v Speaker 2>which also like breaks my heart, like I not do

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<v Speaker 2>this thing. But there are some mornings I look at

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<v Speaker 2>my daughter and I just think, oh my god, she's

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<v Speaker 2>so gorgeous. And I always say to her, I think

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<v Speaker 2>that you got more beautiful in the night, and she

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<v Speaker 2>like runs over to the mirror and she's like, ah,

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<v Speaker 2>I think I did. I look to herself. She's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I think I did get more beautiful, and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>I think so. And then I have Jason, so I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>do you think she got and he's like, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I think.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I just want her to know like that she's amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>You're so beautiful, we were so perfect, And she's never

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<v Speaker 2>looked at herself with anything other than like love and

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<v Speaker 2>she's on these sex you know, the world is coming

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<v Speaker 2>for her. But I just remember just whittling myself down

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<v Speaker 2>and being so aware of all the things that were wrong,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was such an exhausting way to live and boring.

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<v Speaker 2>And it was interesting because I was a little feminist,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I read so many I read everything. I had

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<v Speaker 2>read so much feminist literature, and I was very aware

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<v Speaker 2>of like the issues with body image and society and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, women's rights, and we were living in the

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<v Speaker 2>era of like third wave feminism. I felt very excited

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<v Speaker 2>about possibilities, and I still felt the need to make

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<v Speaker 2>myself smaller. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Sometimes I wonder though about that, how much you

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<v Speaker 1>can know and believe about the world and what the

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<v Speaker 1>world deserves, and what your friends deserve and what women deserve,

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<v Speaker 1>and somehow it won't.

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<v Speaker 2>Settle for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I It took me a long time and

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<v Speaker 1>really wondering how. I had a moment where I woke

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<v Speaker 1>up and went, how is this my life to go?

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<v Speaker 1>How have I paid so much attention to everyone else's

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<v Speaker 1>well being and community well being and the well being

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<v Speaker 1>of a set and of friends and family and coworkers,

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<v Speaker 1>and all of which I love I don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>give that up. But why haven't I paid attention to mine?

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<v Speaker 1>How have I erased myself in my own spaces? And

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think we're taught to pour into ourselves. And

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<v Speaker 1>it really feels and I don't know maybe our parents

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<v Speaker 1>felt this way, but it really feels like our generation

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<v Speaker 1>of women wants to shift that for our kids. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>like you really want this to be, you know, a

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<v Speaker 1>tipping point. Yeah, And maybe it's part of why there's

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<v Speaker 1>this crazy backlash against us, because they're like, oh god,

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<v Speaker 1>they've had a generation of access and they really want

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<v Speaker 1>to use it.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, yeah, yep, oh, it's we do absolutely

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<v Speaker 2>the reason. And then you see, you know in society

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<v Speaker 2>suddenly like being extremely thin is like becoming really fashionable

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<v Speaker 2>again and like well making yourself small yeah, And it's like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh that's interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>Well it's interesting to me too when I think about this,

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<v Speaker 1>because I think about my favorite women to watch and

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<v Speaker 1>preparing for today, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Was like, oh my god, how could I forgotten the.

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<v Speaker 1>Two of my favorite women to watch made one of

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<v Speaker 1>their first movies together. You know, we were you were,

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<v Speaker 1>yes fifteen, oh when.

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<v Speaker 2>You did Heavenly Creatures.

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<v Speaker 1>Crazy and I think about especially these projects that you

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<v Speaker 1>and Kate Winslet have been doing, these conversations you've had

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<v Speaker 1>about women's experiences in this industry, the incredible bodies of

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<v Speaker 1>work you both have, and how somehow we're in a

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<v Speaker 1>moment where the whole industry is like, these women are

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<v Speaker 1>having their moments. Melanie Lensky's getting her due, Kate Winslet

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<v Speaker 1>has a show that finally deserves her, Like, yeah, you

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<v Speaker 1>guys have You've sprinkled magic dust on all of us.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's not lost on me that you did that

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<v Speaker 1>project together when you were in the midst of trying

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<v Speaker 1>to figure this all out for yourself, that both of

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<v Speaker 1>us you know, I don't know her personally, but she

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<v Speaker 1>shared many of these things.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it even.

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<v Speaker 1>Feels like, oh, these incredible women are helming the most

0:25:47.119 --> 0:25:52.520
<v Speaker 1>successful projects and entertainment and really taking up their space.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you know, the sort of backlash to our

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<v Speaker 1>auton and liking ourselves seems to be so strong, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just like, no, yeah, this is my side of

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<v Speaker 1>the sesar.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, me too. It's crazy to me. I'm just like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh no, we can't let go of it. We just can't. No,

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<v Speaker 2>I do have to say, Like when I worked with

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<v Speaker 2>Kate and I was fifteen and she was seventeen, I

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<v Speaker 2>was so in awe of her. I just adored her.

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<v Speaker 2>We had very like big sister little sister vibes, Like

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<v Speaker 2>I worshiped her, and we were very very close, like

0:26:36.200 --> 0:26:40.720
<v Speaker 2>best best best friends. And to watch her work and

0:26:40.800 --> 0:26:43.359
<v Speaker 2>to just see like she was the most beautiful woman.

0:26:43.440 --> 0:26:46.200
<v Speaker 2>I didn't know people could be that beautiful in real life.

0:26:46.240 --> 0:26:48.919
<v Speaker 2>Like I just was like, this is crazy. She just

0:26:49.119 --> 0:26:52.800
<v Speaker 2>looked she was so gorgeous. And then you know, she

0:26:52.840 --> 0:26:55.000
<v Speaker 2>went out in the world and she started working, and

0:26:55.040 --> 0:26:58.000
<v Speaker 2>it just felt like the natural order of things because

0:26:58.000 --> 0:27:00.560
<v Speaker 2>I was like, I've met like a genuine movie star,

0:27:00.640 --> 0:27:02.159
<v Speaker 2>and then she started to become a movie star. I

0:27:02.240 --> 0:27:04.760
<v Speaker 2>was like, that makes sense, that's what should happen. And

0:27:04.800 --> 0:27:08.360
<v Speaker 2>then to see I guess it was mostly after Titanic,

0:27:09.480 --> 0:27:15.480
<v Speaker 2>this crazy backlash that she had to endure and the

0:27:15.520 --> 0:27:18.359
<v Speaker 2>way people talked about her body. I felt like I

0:27:18.440 --> 0:27:23.200
<v Speaker 2>was living in an alternate reality. I was like, no,

0:27:24.040 --> 0:27:27.680
<v Speaker 2>but that, like it was so bizarre and people commenting

0:27:27.720 --> 0:27:31.200
<v Speaker 2>on her body and I was like, that's the most

0:27:31.200 --> 0:27:36.639
<v Speaker 2>beautiful woman I've ever seen. Don't talk about anybody like that,

0:27:36.880 --> 0:27:41.479
<v Speaker 2>But I just it felt like backwards world. Yeah, and

0:27:41.520 --> 0:27:45.119
<v Speaker 2>the fact that she had to endure that and she

0:27:45.200 --> 0:27:48.400
<v Speaker 2>did it with so much grace and so much care

0:27:48.520 --> 0:27:53.960
<v Speaker 2>for other women at a time when it was not

0:27:54.640 --> 0:27:57.040
<v Speaker 2>spoken about, people were not sitting around talking about body

0:27:57.080 --> 0:27:59.800
<v Speaker 2>image because nobody had different bodies and she didn't even

0:27:59.840 --> 0:28:03.600
<v Speaker 2>have a different bodies was tiny, but she was forced

0:28:03.600 --> 0:28:07.120
<v Speaker 2>into this position and she stepped into it so gracefully,

0:28:07.160 --> 0:28:10.240
<v Speaker 2>And I remember at the time being like so furious

0:28:10.280 --> 0:28:12.879
<v Speaker 2>on her behalf that she had to do that, but

0:28:13.000 --> 0:28:15.040
<v Speaker 2>also just an awe of the fact that she was

0:28:15.119 --> 0:28:18.879
<v Speaker 2>able to and she wanted to uplift other women. And

0:28:18.920 --> 0:28:20.880
<v Speaker 2>I knew it was a struggle for her. I knew

0:28:20.880 --> 0:28:23.920
<v Speaker 2>how she felt about her body was a struggle. And

0:28:25.480 --> 0:28:30.240
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I wonder if she came to accept

0:28:30.240 --> 0:28:32.480
<v Speaker 2>herself more because she was put in a position of

0:28:32.880 --> 0:28:35.480
<v Speaker 2>lifting up other women and making other women feel seen.

0:28:36.080 --> 0:28:38.520
<v Speaker 2>But just like how difficult that was for her and

0:28:38.560 --> 0:28:41.800
<v Speaker 2>how unfair And at a moment where she was just

0:28:41.840 --> 0:28:45.400
<v Speaker 2>like stunning the world with her talent, and of course

0:28:46.000 --> 0:28:48.600
<v Speaker 2>people someone has to like take you down when you're

0:28:48.640 --> 0:28:50.880
<v Speaker 2>like literally on top of the world and then the

0:28:50.880 --> 0:28:52.880
<v Speaker 2>biggest movie of all times. Ione has to be like Ben,

0:28:53.440 --> 0:28:57.760
<v Speaker 2>this thing an invented thing, that's not even wrong with her.

0:28:57.960 --> 0:29:02.600
<v Speaker 2>And I don't know. I've just a lot of compassion

0:29:02.680 --> 0:29:04.720
<v Speaker 2>for what she had to go through. And she's still

0:29:05.080 --> 0:29:09.720
<v Speaker 2>doing that. She's still like such an incredible spokesperson for women.

0:29:09.840 --> 0:29:13.800
<v Speaker 2>It's really like, for all these years, it's pretty amaze.

0:29:14.040 --> 0:29:18.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, it's such an odd thing to be because

0:29:18.320 --> 0:29:19.680
<v Speaker 1>it does feel like they want to put you on

0:29:19.720 --> 0:29:21.560
<v Speaker 1>the pedestal just so they can enjoy.

0:29:21.480 --> 0:29:22.280
<v Speaker 2>Knocking you off.

0:29:22.360 --> 0:29:27.320
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, was the moment of making that film because

0:29:27.320 --> 0:29:30.800
<v Speaker 1>you all were so young and you know, hadn't quite

0:29:30.800 --> 0:29:33.440
<v Speaker 1>exploded out into the world of the industry yet. Did

0:29:34.880 --> 0:29:37.560
<v Speaker 1>did you know it would change things? Or did it

0:29:37.560 --> 0:29:38.800
<v Speaker 1>feel a bit like summer camp?

0:29:39.040 --> 0:29:42.520
<v Speaker 2>It was my first job, so I just I couldn't

0:29:42.520 --> 0:29:45.239
<v Speaker 2>believe I was on a movie set and Kate was

0:29:45.240 --> 0:29:47.840
<v Speaker 2>like very professional, and she had been working for a

0:29:47.880 --> 0:29:50.440
<v Speaker 2>long time. It was her first movie, but she'd done

0:29:50.480 --> 0:29:53.800
<v Speaker 2>a lot of television and so she was really telling

0:29:53.800 --> 0:29:56.880
<v Speaker 2>me how things worked. And I remember her saying, like,

0:29:56.920 --> 0:29:58.600
<v Speaker 2>what are you going to spend your money on? It

0:29:58.640 --> 0:30:02.240
<v Speaker 2>wasn't very much money. When I back but like I

0:30:02.280 --> 0:30:06.920
<v Speaker 2>was like, I'm bent this money, and I realized like

0:30:07.440 --> 0:30:09.280
<v Speaker 2>she was thinking she was going to get another job,

0:30:09.320 --> 0:30:10.560
<v Speaker 2>she was going to I was like, this is it

0:30:10.640 --> 0:30:12.200
<v Speaker 2>for me, Like I'm going to keep this money in

0:30:12.200 --> 0:30:15.280
<v Speaker 2>a bank account to last me for the rest of

0:30:15.280 --> 0:30:20.120
<v Speaker 2>my life, which is so funny. But she was, you know,

0:30:20.200 --> 0:30:24.240
<v Speaker 2>thinking about like jobs in the future, and I it

0:30:24.320 --> 0:30:26.600
<v Speaker 2>was just I couldn't believe I was there. I felt

0:30:26.640 --> 0:30:30.080
<v Speaker 2>like I'd want to fan competition or something. Yeah, we'll

0:30:30.080 --> 0:30:31.200
<v Speaker 2>be back in just a minute.

0:30:31.240 --> 0:30:37.320
<v Speaker 1>After a few words from our favorite sponsors.

0:30:39.720 --> 0:30:41.520
<v Speaker 2>Well, so what happened next?

0:30:41.680 --> 0:30:45.920
<v Speaker 1>Because you know your filmography is over one hundred titles long,

0:30:46.360 --> 0:30:46.640
<v Speaker 1>is it?

0:30:47.040 --> 0:30:49.760
<v Speaker 2>Yes, Oh, it doesn't seem right.

0:30:49.960 --> 0:30:53.200
<v Speaker 1>I was like, my goodness, gracious, it's a factoid that

0:30:53.280 --> 0:30:54.760
<v Speaker 1>I read and went grit.

0:30:55.440 --> 0:30:56.120
<v Speaker 2>It's crazy.

0:30:56.360 --> 0:31:00.440
<v Speaker 1>And you you have been part of such a conic

0:31:00.560 --> 0:31:05.680
<v Speaker 1>things through your career, and I've also heard you talk.

0:31:05.520 --> 0:31:06.440
<v Speaker 2>About how.

0:31:08.120 --> 0:31:14.200
<v Speaker 1>You know, it's it's been gorgeous and it never quite

0:31:15.120 --> 0:31:21.640
<v Speaker 1>did the globally explosive thing like this until Yellowjackets. But

0:31:21.720 --> 0:31:25.280
<v Speaker 1>you're like one of the most prolific successful actors ever,

0:31:26.320 --> 0:31:29.360
<v Speaker 1>how does that is it just hard to have it

0:31:29.400 --> 0:31:31.880
<v Speaker 1>sort of resonate the things you're doing, or is it

0:31:31.960 --> 0:31:34.320
<v Speaker 1>that actor's stress of every job you're wondering if you're

0:31:34.360 --> 0:31:35.520
<v Speaker 1>ever going to get another job.

0:31:35.880 --> 0:31:40.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's that thing, okay. And I never had the

0:31:40.960 --> 0:31:46.280
<v Speaker 2>goal of being famous. I'm very shy, I'm I don't

0:31:46.360 --> 0:31:49.160
<v Speaker 2>like it. I'm very grateful now. I don't get recognized

0:31:49.280 --> 0:31:52.640
<v Speaker 2>very much, and when I do, somebody is very specific

0:31:52.720 --> 0:31:55.240
<v Speaker 2>and they know exactly it's either they know exactly where

0:31:55.240 --> 0:31:57.200
<v Speaker 2>they know me from when they have something very specific

0:31:57.240 --> 0:31:59.760
<v Speaker 2>to say, or as someone who's like, did you go

0:31:59.840 --> 0:32:03.080
<v Speaker 2>to such and such college? And if I didn't, they're

0:32:03.120 --> 0:32:07.800
<v Speaker 2>like like thrown off by the accent. So I can

0:32:07.920 --> 0:32:11.240
<v Speaker 2>kind of still move around and just be normal in

0:32:11.280 --> 0:32:13.320
<v Speaker 2>the world. I was always so afraid of not being

0:32:13.320 --> 0:32:16.920
<v Speaker 2>able to do that, you know, and I never sort

0:32:16.960 --> 0:32:19.760
<v Speaker 2>of being like a true famous person. It feels like

0:32:19.800 --> 0:32:26.120
<v Speaker 2>a prison. I agree. Yeah, yeah, So this has come

0:32:26.200 --> 0:32:28.400
<v Speaker 2>sort of like as close as I would ever want

0:32:29.040 --> 0:32:34.840
<v Speaker 2>to get, and it's very strange but also manageable. But

0:32:34.920 --> 0:32:35.840
<v Speaker 2>it's also so.

0:32:37.400 --> 0:32:42.280
<v Speaker 1>Cool as a you know, as a fan of yours

0:32:42.440 --> 0:32:45.000
<v Speaker 1>and then as such a fan of the show to

0:32:45.120 --> 0:32:50.080
<v Speaker 1>watch what you ladies have built and to watch the

0:32:51.160 --> 0:32:54.200
<v Speaker 1>hunger for it, the reception of it, the excitement around

0:32:54.240 --> 0:32:58.640
<v Speaker 1>it for women who you know, when we were in

0:32:58.680 --> 0:33:00.600
<v Speaker 1>our twenties they were telling us. By the time we

0:33:00.600 --> 0:33:02.000
<v Speaker 1>were forty, we don't never work.

0:33:01.840 --> 0:33:02.440
<v Speaker 2>Again, I know.

0:33:02.800 --> 0:33:04.880
<v Speaker 1>And you're like, sorry, I'm just owning the hottest show

0:33:04.880 --> 0:33:05.880
<v Speaker 1>on TV at forty four.

0:33:05.920 --> 0:33:11.160
<v Speaker 2>You're welcome. Is it sort of delicious? It's incredibly delicious,

0:33:11.240 --> 0:33:16.280
<v Speaker 2>so great, love it. I love it too, and I

0:33:16.360 --> 0:33:19.960
<v Speaker 2>just think there's so much opportunity. Like a very dear

0:33:20.000 --> 0:33:23.120
<v Speaker 2>friend of mine in New Zealand created a show She's

0:33:23.200 --> 0:33:25.800
<v Speaker 2>just Too sixty. She created a show that she's the

0:33:25.840 --> 0:33:28.560
<v Speaker 2>star of It just got nominated for a BAFTA for

0:33:28.640 --> 0:33:31.840
<v Speaker 2>Best International Show. It's called After the Party and now's

0:33:31.920 --> 0:33:34.240
<v Speaker 2>Robin Malcolm. Oh yeah, whenever it comes out here, it's

0:33:34.280 --> 0:33:37.800
<v Speaker 2>so so, so good and she's like sixy and great

0:33:37.840 --> 0:33:41.000
<v Speaker 2>and funny and she made it happen for herself and

0:33:41.280 --> 0:33:44.920
<v Speaker 2>it was everywhere it's eared, it's been huge. It's been

0:33:45.000 --> 0:33:49.280
<v Speaker 2>so popular because like there's a hunger for it. People

0:33:49.360 --> 0:33:52.120
<v Speaker 2>want to see stories about women who are not like

0:33:52.360 --> 0:33:56.080
<v Speaker 2>twenty five years old. No disrespect to twenty five year olds,

0:33:56.160 --> 0:34:01.200
<v Speaker 2>but you know, it's people want to stories about women

0:34:01.240 --> 0:34:02.480
<v Speaker 2>who are like themselves.

0:34:02.680 --> 0:34:05.680
<v Speaker 1>Yes, And I want to see stories that aren't just

0:34:05.720 --> 0:34:06.600
<v Speaker 1>about high school.

0:34:06.680 --> 0:34:06.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:34:06.920 --> 0:34:08.960
<v Speaker 1>And I understand the irony of saying that as a

0:34:09.000 --> 0:34:11.640
<v Speaker 1>girl who got famous on a show about high school. Yeah,

0:34:11.680 --> 0:34:14.279
<v Speaker 1>but it can't just be that. And when I look

0:34:14.320 --> 0:34:18.480
<v Speaker 1>at our you know, small to overlapping large groups of friends,

0:34:18.840 --> 0:34:22.880
<v Speaker 1>we are all so much hotter, better looking, funnier and

0:34:22.960 --> 0:34:25.160
<v Speaker 1>more interesting than we were twenty years ago. And I

0:34:25.160 --> 0:34:27.239
<v Speaker 1>think twenty years ago we were pretty cute. I think

0:34:27.280 --> 0:34:31.120
<v Speaker 1>so too, but we're better now. Yeah, And I want this.

0:34:31.560 --> 0:34:36.200
<v Speaker 1>I want our world reflected well. And I want the

0:34:36.320 --> 0:34:38.880
<v Speaker 1>girls that are playing the high school girls now to

0:34:39.000 --> 0:34:40.040
<v Speaker 1>know like, we're here.

0:34:40.000 --> 0:34:41.480
<v Speaker 2>We got you. Yeah.

0:34:41.640 --> 0:34:44.680
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, I want that so much. What is it

0:34:44.840 --> 0:34:50.080
<v Speaker 1>like doing that sort of dance with yourselves and your

0:34:50.120 --> 0:34:53.600
<v Speaker 1>younger selves on the show, you know, because obviously you're

0:34:53.880 --> 0:34:57.560
<v Speaker 1>you're shooting in I would imagine different locations different at

0:34:57.560 --> 0:35:00.239
<v Speaker 1>different times. Do you get to spend much time I'm

0:35:00.440 --> 0:35:03.560
<v Speaker 1>with the alter ego? High school kids are not?

0:35:03.719 --> 0:35:06.239
<v Speaker 2>Really, we try to. We try to see each other

0:35:06.280 --> 0:35:12.239
<v Speaker 2>whenever we can. Sophie and I are really close, and

0:35:12.640 --> 0:35:16.960
<v Speaker 2>my closest friend on the show was someone who played Lottie,

0:35:17.000 --> 0:35:19.880
<v Speaker 2>and hers is Court and you who plays Lottie. So

0:35:20.040 --> 0:35:21.879
<v Speaker 2>the four of us would get together a bit, which

0:35:21.920 --> 0:35:26.080
<v Speaker 2>is really cute and fun, sweet and a thing that

0:35:26.120 --> 0:35:29.520
<v Speaker 2>I found because I was very concerned with like being

0:35:29.560 --> 0:35:32.560
<v Speaker 2>an advocate for everybody, and I reached out and I

0:35:32.600 --> 0:35:35.280
<v Speaker 2>was like, if you need anything, I'll be your spokesperson

0:35:35.400 --> 0:35:37.839
<v Speaker 2>whatever you need. And they were all kind of like,

0:35:37.880 --> 0:35:41.520
<v Speaker 2>oh thanks. They were like that's so sweet. But they

0:35:41.520 --> 0:35:45.080
<v Speaker 2>did not need me at all. There's an agency that

0:35:45.120 --> 0:35:49.200
<v Speaker 2>they have that is just inherent in a way of

0:35:49.239 --> 0:35:55.000
<v Speaker 2>standing up for themselves that I love. I love it. Wow. Yeah,

0:35:55.160 --> 0:35:57.399
<v Speaker 2>nobody's like is it okay if I say this. They're

0:35:57.440 --> 0:36:00.920
<v Speaker 2>just like, well, I'm going to say something, and I

0:36:01.000 --> 0:36:04.719
<v Speaker 2>just I'm like, okay, you really don't need me. Do

0:36:04.760 --> 0:36:08.080
<v Speaker 2>you feel like you learn from them too? Yeah? Oh yeah,

0:36:08.239 --> 0:36:08.760
<v Speaker 2>very much.

0:36:09.800 --> 0:36:13.600
<v Speaker 1>And I always wonder about this when you're on a

0:36:13.640 --> 0:36:16.480
<v Speaker 1>show that has just changed the zeitgeist in the way

0:36:16.480 --> 0:36:20.440
<v Speaker 1>that Yellowjackets has. Did you did you know when you

0:36:20.480 --> 0:36:22.440
<v Speaker 1>read the script? Did you think, oh, this is one

0:36:22.440 --> 0:36:24.719
<v Speaker 1>of the best things I've read in years, or was

0:36:24.719 --> 0:36:28.919
<v Speaker 1>it the sort of arc of season one? Like did

0:36:28.960 --> 0:36:31.560
<v Speaker 1>you have a clue before it came on and you

0:36:31.560 --> 0:36:35.160
<v Speaker 1>saw the reception or were you sort of taken with

0:36:35.320 --> 0:36:36.640
<v Speaker 1>it the way the audience was.

0:36:37.320 --> 0:36:40.600
<v Speaker 2>I thought it was really good. Yeah, I thought the

0:36:40.640 --> 0:36:44.879
<v Speaker 2>pilot was so well written. I also had an infant,

0:36:45.120 --> 0:36:48.760
<v Speaker 2>and I was interested in being in half of a show.

0:36:49.640 --> 0:36:51.880
<v Speaker 2>I was so tired. I was like, that sounds great.

0:36:52.080 --> 0:36:52.799
<v Speaker 2>That sounds great.

0:36:52.880 --> 0:36:55.879
<v Speaker 1>By the way, I agree, yeah, I'm like, how do

0:36:55.920 --> 0:36:57.480
<v Speaker 1>we do more of what you're doing? Oh?

0:36:57.560 --> 0:37:00.319
<v Speaker 2>Please, They're like in half of the show with this

0:37:00.360 --> 0:37:04.200
<v Speaker 2>other timeline. I was like, I'm listening. Oh, but I

0:37:04.280 --> 0:37:06.239
<v Speaker 2>just thought the pilot was so good. I have no

0:37:06.280 --> 0:37:08.440
<v Speaker 2>idea how many people they offered it to before it

0:37:08.440 --> 0:37:11.120
<v Speaker 2>came to me, but I'm very but no, I know

0:37:11.239 --> 0:37:16.319
<v Speaker 2>that there were really Yeah, but I'm very grateful, thank

0:37:16.360 --> 0:37:19.520
<v Speaker 2>you to all those people who passed. I just was,

0:37:19.640 --> 0:37:22.520
<v Speaker 2>I'm I just loved it. I loved it so much,

0:37:22.560 --> 0:37:25.279
<v Speaker 2>and I was just like, yeah, this feels right. And

0:37:25.320 --> 0:37:28.000
<v Speaker 2>then we made the pilot. Everything felt great, and we

0:37:28.160 --> 0:37:32.320
<v Speaker 2>just heard nothing, not like good job, it looks great,

0:37:32.600 --> 0:37:39.160
<v Speaker 2>what nothing? We had absolutely nothing. And then it was

0:37:39.200 --> 0:37:41.800
<v Speaker 2>the pandemic and I was just like, well, I guess

0:37:42.680 --> 0:37:47.000
<v Speaker 2>nothing's happening with that. Then it seems like just like

0:37:47.040 --> 0:37:50.640
<v Speaker 2>nothing at all. And then I was on a call

0:37:50.719 --> 0:37:53.360
<v Speaker 2>with my psychic and all I wanted to talk about

0:37:53.400 --> 0:37:56.040
<v Speaker 2>was whether I was going to have another baby. And

0:37:56.080 --> 0:37:58.560
<v Speaker 2>she started to tell me that there was something going

0:37:58.640 --> 0:38:02.280
<v Speaker 2>to happen in my career. It because it didn't happen

0:38:02.280 --> 0:38:04.719
<v Speaker 2>when I was twenty five. I thought, well, that's never

0:38:04.760 --> 0:38:08.680
<v Speaker 2>gonna happen. Said that's coming, and you've already done a

0:38:08.719 --> 0:38:11.920
<v Speaker 2>bit of it, and I was like, I did a pilot,

0:38:11.960 --> 0:38:14.120
<v Speaker 2>but I don't think it's going. It's like, oh no,

0:38:14.200 --> 0:38:17.480
<v Speaker 2>that's it. It's going. Okay, Well I want this woman's fine,

0:38:17.480 --> 0:38:19.319
<v Speaker 2>I'll give you her phone number. She's amazing. I'm giving

0:38:19.320 --> 0:38:22.120
<v Speaker 2>her phone number to so many people. Now she's impossible

0:38:22.160 --> 0:38:25.719
<v Speaker 2>to get an appointment. Well, well it makes time for me,

0:38:26.040 --> 0:38:29.279
<v Speaker 2>but but yeah, it was absolutely so. I had that

0:38:29.360 --> 0:38:33.719
<v Speaker 2>kind of a hits up because she's never wrong. But

0:38:33.760 --> 0:38:35.440
<v Speaker 2>it didn't make any sense to me. I was just like,

0:38:35.640 --> 0:38:38.879
<v Speaker 2>I don't think so. I'm forty four years old. We've

0:38:38.880 --> 0:38:43.600
<v Speaker 2>heard not a word about this pilot. It's been nine months.

0:38:43.600 --> 0:38:46.720
<v Speaker 2>I think at that point, like nothing. It's so crazy.

0:38:46.800 --> 0:38:48.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and then what you got the call and they

0:38:48.480 --> 0:38:50.680
<v Speaker 1>said you need to move to Vancouver in three days later.

0:38:50.800 --> 0:38:57.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly. Yeah, in one month, please change entirely. Yeah exactly.

0:38:57.840 --> 0:39:01.640
<v Speaker 2>And your baby and the damn it. Oh my god.

0:39:02.320 --> 0:39:08.319
<v Speaker 1>Wait, I have all these questions about your coworkers and

0:39:08.480 --> 0:39:10.840
<v Speaker 1>female rage and all these thoughts, and I'm like, hold on,

0:39:10.880 --> 0:39:13.000
<v Speaker 1>when did you start seeing a psychic? Tell me everything?

0:39:13.719 --> 0:39:17.319
<v Speaker 2>Oh? My therapist I had a therapist was no, you

0:39:17.320 --> 0:39:21.160
<v Speaker 2>should talk to No. Yeah, I love this, I know,

0:39:21.320 --> 0:39:23.880
<v Speaker 2>and she's been very she's very healing, okay, because a

0:39:23.880 --> 0:39:26.800
<v Speaker 2>lot of people get very judgy about these things.

0:39:26.840 --> 0:39:28.759
<v Speaker 1>And then there's also a part of me that things look,

0:39:28.760 --> 0:39:32.319
<v Speaker 1>there's so much we know. There's so much we know

0:39:32.400 --> 0:39:35.279
<v Speaker 1>we don't know about science and the universe, and we

0:39:35.360 --> 0:39:38.279
<v Speaker 1>know where this teeny tiny galaxy in this giant you know,

0:39:38.480 --> 0:39:42.640
<v Speaker 1>mcflurry of galaxies essentially, like there's so much out there

0:39:42.640 --> 0:39:46.200
<v Speaker 1>that we can't possibly understand. When I think about the

0:39:46.239 --> 0:39:49.480
<v Speaker 1>things we know that our grandparents didn't know, that doctors

0:39:49.480 --> 0:39:53.360
<v Speaker 1>didn't know. Yeah, I get excited about possibilities and energy,

0:39:53.560 --> 0:39:57.080
<v Speaker 1>and I think there are people who are tapped into

0:39:57.560 --> 0:39:58.280
<v Speaker 1>that A lot.

0:39:58.120 --> 0:40:00.920
<v Speaker 2>Of us aren't. Yeah, but how do you.

0:40:02.400 --> 0:40:03.719
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm sure there's a little bit of a

0:40:03.719 --> 0:40:05.840
<v Speaker 1>feeling of well, why not if my therapist says it

0:40:05.880 --> 0:40:09.520
<v Speaker 1>to me? But how did you make the leap to say, oh, forget,

0:40:09.560 --> 0:40:11.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm just going to book an appointment with us.

0:40:11.080 --> 0:40:13.880
<v Speaker 2>I can can see what happens. I just was too curious.

0:40:14.360 --> 0:40:17.320
<v Speaker 2>She was a very unconventional therapist. She passed away a

0:40:17.360 --> 0:40:19.719
<v Speaker 2>few years ago. I'm sorry, but she did a lot

0:40:19.760 --> 0:40:23.360
<v Speaker 2>of weird I was in group therapy with her. That

0:40:23.480 --> 0:40:26.440
<v Speaker 2>was always a fun time. Was she your five day person?

0:40:26.719 --> 0:40:28.640
<v Speaker 2>She'd sent me the first time she met me, she

0:40:28.680 --> 0:40:31.200
<v Speaker 2>sent me to the five day place. Oh, I like her.

0:40:31.320 --> 0:40:33.000
<v Speaker 2>It's my kind of broad.

0:40:32.800 --> 0:40:35.640
<v Speaker 3>It's not I don't feel like you're decision well, but

0:40:35.719 --> 0:40:37.640
<v Speaker 3>I don't feel like you'd say, lady like she feels

0:40:37.680 --> 0:40:38.240
<v Speaker 3>like abroad.

0:40:38.520 --> 0:40:41.640
<v Speaker 2>She's abroad. She was broad like, she really was. She

0:40:41.719 --> 0:40:43.759
<v Speaker 2>really was. But yeah, the first time she met me,

0:40:43.800 --> 0:40:45.080
<v Speaker 2>she was like, you know where you have to go?

0:40:45.600 --> 0:40:47.640
<v Speaker 2>And she like called them and I was like, told

0:40:47.680 --> 0:40:50.640
<v Speaker 2>me for twenty minutes, are you sure? Like? But I

0:40:50.680 --> 0:40:55.120
<v Speaker 2>trusted it? Is it time? Yeah? Wow? It was very strange.

0:40:55.480 --> 0:40:59.800
<v Speaker 1>And then how do you I'm so curious about this, how.

0:40:59.680 --> 0:41:03.920
<v Speaker 2>Do you kind of mitigate the.

0:41:06.360 --> 0:41:11.000
<v Speaker 1>Maybe maybe not that comes from a psychic Like people

0:41:11.040 --> 0:41:12.640
<v Speaker 1>will say it can be fun, take it with a

0:41:12.640 --> 0:41:15.080
<v Speaker 1>grain of salt it, but then I'm obsessed with things.

0:41:15.800 --> 0:41:19.120
<v Speaker 1>So how do you let it be additive and not

0:41:19.200 --> 0:41:20.080
<v Speaker 1>make you paranoid?

0:41:20.880 --> 0:41:24.319
<v Speaker 2>I think because I talk to she's very good at

0:41:24.360 --> 0:41:30.160
<v Speaker 2>talking about energies, how to deal with particular people, the

0:41:30.200 --> 0:41:34.000
<v Speaker 2>types of energy that's going to be coming towards you.

0:41:34.480 --> 0:41:37.160
<v Speaker 2>Like if there's somebody you're having difficulties with, she can

0:41:37.239 --> 0:41:41.319
<v Speaker 2>tell you. Like there was one coworker I was kind

0:41:41.320 --> 0:41:44.520
<v Speaker 2>of like intimidated by years ago. She was like, just

0:41:44.560 --> 0:41:46.680
<v Speaker 2>sit there and say nothing. And I was like, that's

0:41:46.719 --> 0:41:50.040
<v Speaker 2>so rude, and she was like, it's not like he

0:41:50.120 --> 0:41:52.640
<v Speaker 2>needs a little space. I just couldn't figure it out.

0:41:52.640 --> 0:41:54.480
<v Speaker 2>I was like, I want to be friends with him,

0:41:54.480 --> 0:41:57.520
<v Speaker 2>but I'm sort of nervous, like, and she said, just

0:41:57.560 --> 0:42:01.640
<v Speaker 2>say absolutely nothing. Yeah, but I did. I just like

0:42:01.719 --> 0:42:04.839
<v Speaker 2>sat in the cast here and then one day he goes,

0:42:05.000 --> 0:42:07.120
<v Speaker 2>you know, I love you. Don't come in here going

0:42:07.120 --> 0:42:09.280
<v Speaker 2>oh blah blah blah blah feeling that you need to talk.

0:42:09.600 --> 0:42:12.520
<v Speaker 2>It just really like feels really calm, and I feel

0:42:12.520 --> 0:42:14.560
<v Speaker 2>like you're just waiting for the time to be right

0:42:15.040 --> 0:42:18.440
<v Speaker 2>and then we like we're still very dear friends. Wow,

0:42:19.120 --> 0:42:22.480
<v Speaker 2>Like she just knows I don't think. Yeah, she just

0:42:22.560 --> 0:42:25.200
<v Speaker 2>knows things about how people operate. So a lot of

0:42:25.200 --> 0:42:27.040
<v Speaker 2>it when I talk to her as that is just

0:42:27.239 --> 0:42:30.640
<v Speaker 2>you know, energy, or she can read the energy around

0:42:30.680 --> 0:42:33.439
<v Speaker 2>like a project that might come up and my god,

0:42:33.440 --> 0:42:35.640
<v Speaker 2>I'm excited. Yeah, how fun.

0:42:35.880 --> 0:42:42.680
<v Speaker 1>It's very she's very fun and now for our sponsors.

0:42:44.719 --> 0:42:49.440
<v Speaker 1>So that's something I'm curious about because energy is important

0:42:49.480 --> 0:42:52.160
<v Speaker 1>on a project. I try to explain to people that

0:42:52.280 --> 0:42:55.040
<v Speaker 1>being cast on a show is essentially like having an

0:42:55.160 --> 0:42:57.520
<v Speaker 1>arranged marriage with fifteen to twenty five people.

0:42:57.520 --> 0:42:58.200
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god.

0:42:58.320 --> 0:43:01.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because you have to be immediate family, you have

0:43:01.560 --> 0:43:04.160
<v Speaker 1>to have great chemistry, you have to somehow know how

0:43:04.160 --> 0:43:06.840
<v Speaker 1>to communicate with everyone, even though everyone communicates differently and

0:43:06.880 --> 0:43:09.680
<v Speaker 1>they're total strangers. Yeah, and they're going to ship you

0:43:09.719 --> 0:43:10.640
<v Speaker 1>off somewhere and you're going.

0:43:10.600 --> 0:43:13.400
<v Speaker 2>To live together. Yeah. So true. It's like if you

0:43:13.400 --> 0:43:16.319
<v Speaker 2>had to marry everyone on Big Brother. Yeah.

0:43:16.360 --> 0:43:17.480
<v Speaker 1>It's confusing.

0:43:17.880 --> 0:43:18.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And.

0:43:20.239 --> 0:43:23.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm really curious because you do. You've got these parallel

0:43:23.040 --> 0:43:26.400
<v Speaker 1>storylines on the show, and it's this big group of women,

0:43:27.160 --> 0:43:29.799
<v Speaker 1>and I do think we're in a different time where

0:43:29.800 --> 0:43:32.000
<v Speaker 1>we get to be additive to each other instead of

0:43:32.080 --> 0:43:34.960
<v Speaker 1>encouraged to behave like, oh, there's only room for one

0:43:34.960 --> 0:43:40.279
<v Speaker 1>of you, so compete, ladies. Yeah, how do you How

0:43:40.320 --> 0:43:44.080
<v Speaker 1>does it feel energetically with this big group of women

0:43:44.280 --> 0:43:46.360
<v Speaker 1>and then this sort of younger group of women that

0:43:46.400 --> 0:43:48.960
<v Speaker 1>you guys want to look out for, but who are

0:43:48.960 --> 0:43:49.920
<v Speaker 1>teaching you things too?

0:43:50.040 --> 0:43:50.200
<v Speaker 2>Do you?

0:43:51.200 --> 0:43:53.279
<v Speaker 1>Did you have to sort of sit down and go, Okay, guys,

0:43:53.320 --> 0:43:55.759
<v Speaker 1>I know we all come from the early aughts, absolute

0:43:55.920 --> 0:43:58.640
<v Speaker 1>nightmare of Hollywood, but we're going to be cool and

0:43:58.680 --> 0:44:03.160
<v Speaker 1>be friends. Or were you all just ready? I think

0:44:03.560 --> 0:44:06.160
<v Speaker 1>we were all ready. We were all very very grateful

0:44:06.200 --> 0:44:12.000
<v Speaker 1>for the job, which is a nice thing. And it

0:44:12.120 --> 0:44:16.000
<v Speaker 1>was also during COVID we couldn't really hang out very much,

0:44:17.000 --> 0:44:20.320
<v Speaker 1>so we would do you know, Marco Polo.

0:44:21.040 --> 0:44:24.960
<v Speaker 2>I would leave each other, these Marco Polos. We were

0:44:25.000 --> 0:44:27.560
<v Speaker 2>just talking like and it would be at different times

0:44:27.560 --> 0:44:29.399
<v Speaker 2>like mine would be when my daughter had finally gone

0:44:29.440 --> 0:44:32.319
<v Speaker 2>to sleep, and Spring sitting next to her and bear

0:44:32.520 --> 0:44:35.960
<v Speaker 2>Juliet's were like roaming around the streets and the cameras

0:44:36.000 --> 0:44:38.600
<v Speaker 2>like over here somewhere, just like yeah, so anyway, you know,

0:44:38.680 --> 0:44:42.160
<v Speaker 2>and they were all Christina's were always driving. She was like,

0:44:42.200 --> 0:44:46.200
<v Speaker 2>I'm fine, I put the camera somewhere. They were all

0:44:46.320 --> 0:44:50.400
<v Speaker 2>like such like a microcosm of our personalities, but we

0:44:50.600 --> 0:44:54.759
<v Speaker 2>just witnessed each other like how each other's days were.

0:44:55.320 --> 0:44:58.480
<v Speaker 2>And then we just started talking about our families, our past,

0:44:58.960 --> 0:45:04.440
<v Speaker 2>like se really harassed us. You know, just every everything

0:45:05.160 --> 0:45:10.160
<v Speaker 2>came out and it was so bonding. And so then

0:45:11.000 --> 0:45:14.920
<v Speaker 2>by the time we were at work together, we're like sisters.

0:45:15.200 --> 0:45:18.239
<v Speaker 2>And also I'm grateful that we all wanted to do

0:45:18.320 --> 0:45:22.719
<v Speaker 2>that and trusted each other enough. And then you know,

0:45:22.760 --> 0:45:27.719
<v Speaker 2>I know, people have had arguments and it's never going

0:45:27.760 --> 0:45:29.239
<v Speaker 2>to be easy when there's a group of people who

0:45:29.280 --> 0:45:32.600
<v Speaker 2>are so close knit. But the younger cast is like

0:45:32.640 --> 0:45:37.239
<v Speaker 2>that too, they're so close. Yeah. Like at Samantha, who

0:45:37.320 --> 0:45:40.320
<v Speaker 2>plays young Misty, she had a baby shower during production

0:45:40.480 --> 0:45:43.440
<v Speaker 2>last season and everybody was there and it just was

0:45:43.520 --> 0:45:47.560
<v Speaker 2>like really a special time to see how well we

0:45:47.640 --> 0:45:50.440
<v Speaker 2>all knew each other. It was really special. What a

0:45:50.560 --> 0:45:52.720
<v Speaker 2>cool what a cool moment.

0:45:53.040 --> 0:45:56.040
<v Speaker 1>I know, I don't know if you're allowed to tell us,

0:45:56.120 --> 0:45:58.640
<v Speaker 1>but you know, the data we have all the numbers,

0:45:58.680 --> 0:45:59.800
<v Speaker 1>including you know, your film A.

0:46:01.080 --> 0:46:04.680
<v Speaker 2>Season three was the most watched season. Are we gonna

0:46:04.719 --> 0:46:08.879
<v Speaker 2>get a I don't know, so I want to know.

0:46:09.239 --> 0:46:13.239
<v Speaker 2>I know we're all a bit panicky. I can't. I mean, well,

0:46:14.360 --> 0:46:17.759
<v Speaker 2>we gotta call the psychic. Yeah, I'm scared to ask her.

0:46:18.360 --> 0:46:19.960
<v Speaker 2>I haven't told her for a few months.

0:46:19.960 --> 0:46:26.799
<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh, Oh my gosh. When you this is

0:46:26.840 --> 0:46:28.960
<v Speaker 1>gonna seem like a weird tangent. But my brain made

0:46:28.960 --> 0:46:32.000
<v Speaker 1>the connection, which was, well, it's kind of the inner knowing, right,

0:46:32.080 --> 0:46:32.399
<v Speaker 1>And then.

0:46:32.320 --> 0:46:33.360
<v Speaker 2>I was like, oh, I wonder if that's how you

0:46:33.360 --> 0:46:36.040
<v Speaker 2>felt when you met Jason. And I was like, I realized.

0:46:36.080 --> 0:46:38.000
<v Speaker 1>I was just gonna ask you, did you feel like

0:46:38.040 --> 0:46:39.360
<v Speaker 1>you just knew when you met Jason?

0:46:39.400 --> 0:46:42.160
<v Speaker 2>And You're like, ma'am, what is this segue? But it

0:46:42.239 --> 0:46:48.440
<v Speaker 2>made sense. I understand the connection here, you know, yeah.

0:46:47.840 --> 0:46:53.000
<v Speaker 1>Did it Did it feel very different to you, you

0:46:53.000 --> 0:46:54.400
<v Speaker 1>know when you guys.

0:46:55.200 --> 0:46:55.919
<v Speaker 2>Met each other?

0:46:56.400 --> 0:46:58.759
<v Speaker 1>Or was it because I know you did movie after

0:46:58.880 --> 0:47:01.040
<v Speaker 1>movie together. Did it a while for you to go,

0:47:01.080 --> 0:47:02.200
<v Speaker 1>oh my god, wait, is it.

0:47:02.120 --> 0:47:06.240
<v Speaker 2>This guy that I know? Well? We on the first

0:47:06.320 --> 0:47:08.640
<v Speaker 2>movie was when we like got together, but we were

0:47:08.680 --> 0:47:12.239
<v Speaker 2>both very chaotic. We both had like just gone through

0:47:12.239 --> 0:47:18.560
<v Speaker 2>breakups like just and it was he I don't know,

0:47:19.080 --> 0:47:24.160
<v Speaker 2>everybody seemed kind of like background noise to me. I

0:47:24.200 --> 0:47:28.360
<v Speaker 2>just couldn't focus on anyone or anything. And it felt

0:47:28.360 --> 0:47:32.040
<v Speaker 2>so chaotic and like my husband moved out of the house,

0:47:32.080 --> 0:47:32.600
<v Speaker 2>like it was.

0:47:32.600 --> 0:47:34.800
<v Speaker 1>Just well you yeah, because you were going through a divorce.

0:47:35.000 --> 0:47:37.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and it was so And it was even before

0:47:37.760 --> 0:47:39.799
<v Speaker 2>like the divorce. Jimmy and I took a long time

0:47:39.800 --> 0:47:43.279
<v Speaker 2>to sign divorce papers because it was just so depressing.

0:47:43.360 --> 0:47:45.080
<v Speaker 2>Every time we hung out, we were like, let's do

0:47:45.120 --> 0:47:48.360
<v Speaker 2>a nicktime. It just felt we didn't have It was

0:47:48.400 --> 0:47:54.480
<v Speaker 2>a very easy process, but just a signing no, I

0:47:54.520 --> 0:47:57.200
<v Speaker 2>get it. Oh yucky. I also think that's.

0:47:57.200 --> 0:48:01.120
<v Speaker 1>Listen, that's adulthood. Nobody decides to get a divorce until

0:48:01.160 --> 0:48:04.360
<v Speaker 1>they've been on a torture train for a pretty long time. Yeah,

0:48:04.360 --> 0:48:08.000
<v Speaker 1>and when you say it's time and someone moves out

0:48:08.120 --> 0:48:11.400
<v Speaker 1>or you both move or whatever, that's a long time coming.

0:48:12.440 --> 0:48:15.360
<v Speaker 2>And I don't know, well, and maybe it felt different

0:48:15.440 --> 0:48:16.000
<v Speaker 2>for you too.

0:48:16.840 --> 0:48:20.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, maybe I'm projecting my experience and also the

0:48:20.680 --> 0:48:22.640
<v Speaker 1>experience of a bunch of my friends who weirdly went

0:48:22.680 --> 0:48:23.399
<v Speaker 1>through it and I did.

0:48:24.120 --> 0:48:26.360
<v Speaker 2>Oh, that's interesting. It was a really weird summer.

0:48:26.560 --> 0:48:28.879
<v Speaker 1>Speaking of I watched a video by a psychic who

0:48:28.880 --> 0:48:31.600
<v Speaker 1>said twenty twenty three was the year of the Great divorce,

0:48:32.160 --> 0:48:34.640
<v Speaker 1>Like nineteen twenty nine was the year of the Great Depression,

0:48:34.719 --> 0:48:36.760
<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty three was the year of the Great divorce.

0:48:37.040 --> 0:48:38.799
<v Speaker 1>And if you actually look at the records, I'm like,

0:48:38.880 --> 0:48:40.799
<v Speaker 1>I am a basic pitch that I got divorced in

0:48:40.800 --> 0:48:43.680
<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty three, so and everybody else but a we

0:48:43.920 --> 0:48:48.000
<v Speaker 1>survived it well. But I find it so interesting because

0:48:49.000 --> 0:48:52.160
<v Speaker 1>when you meet someone or reconnect with someone or whatever

0:48:52.160 --> 0:48:56.640
<v Speaker 1>it is in that absolute chaos, I think maybe it's

0:48:56.680 --> 0:48:58.720
<v Speaker 1>easy to think, oh, this is a sweet rebound moment

0:48:58.840 --> 0:49:02.040
<v Speaker 1>or a nice distraction whatever. You also maybe it's the

0:49:02.080 --> 0:49:02.760
<v Speaker 1>moment you need.

0:49:02.600 --> 0:49:04.480
<v Speaker 2>The love of your life. I don't know. I mean

0:49:04.520 --> 0:49:07.839
<v Speaker 2>it ended up being, but if someone had come down

0:49:07.840 --> 0:49:09.680
<v Speaker 2>and that's the love of your life, I would have

0:49:09.680 --> 0:49:12.600
<v Speaker 2>been like, oh, I hope not. I don't he's not

0:49:12.960 --> 0:49:17.360
<v Speaker 2>doing very well. Like he was such a mess. So cute,

0:49:17.440 --> 0:49:20.400
<v Speaker 2>but he was like such a mess. I don't know.

0:49:20.440 --> 0:49:24.200
<v Speaker 2>I barely kind of noticed it, like I was like,

0:49:24.239 --> 0:49:27.680
<v Speaker 2>it seems sweet. I just had too much else going

0:49:27.760 --> 0:49:30.080
<v Speaker 2>on totally, And then one night he was like, you

0:49:30.120 --> 0:49:34.239
<v Speaker 2>know when I went through my breakup, Like one of

0:49:34.280 --> 0:49:36.399
<v Speaker 2>the things that was really great for me was like

0:49:37.160 --> 0:49:41.000
<v Speaker 2>kissing someone, like when you realize you can kiss someone.

0:49:41.719 --> 0:49:45.120
<v Speaker 2>And I was like, oh okay, like it just felt

0:49:45.120 --> 0:49:48.040
<v Speaker 2>so weird and kiss me. I know. I was like

0:49:48.360 --> 0:49:51.160
<v Speaker 2>what and he was like, I don't know, just nouse

0:49:51.200 --> 0:49:53.000
<v Speaker 2>you were wondering. I all thought that was like a

0:49:53.000 --> 0:49:56.080
<v Speaker 2>helpful thing. And I was like and then I realized, like,

0:49:56.120 --> 0:50:00.960
<v Speaker 2>well I'm free too. I guess it's like it feels

0:50:01.000 --> 0:50:07.160
<v Speaker 2>too soon, yeah, but all right, And so then that happened,

0:50:07.920 --> 0:50:10.120
<v Speaker 2>and then it was very weird. We could say like

0:50:11.800 --> 0:50:13.920
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, it's like the spirit of our daughter

0:50:14.120 --> 0:50:16.280
<v Speaker 2>or something, which sounds weird when you're talking about kissing

0:50:16.320 --> 0:50:18.879
<v Speaker 2>each other. But something something happened.

0:50:18.600 --> 0:50:24.520
<v Speaker 1>You like felt something yeah, weird, something weird, just like oh,

0:50:24.600 --> 0:50:26.799
<v Speaker 1>let's say say like it was like kind of like

0:50:26.840 --> 0:50:29.560
<v Speaker 1>an oh no, it was sort of feeling oh god, yeah,

0:50:29.760 --> 0:50:31.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm not even going to get to have the sludy

0:50:31.600 --> 0:50:32.200
<v Speaker 1>rebound sex.

0:50:32.360 --> 0:50:36.359
<v Speaker 2>I know, well there that goes. Yeah, it just was.

0:50:36.480 --> 0:50:40.879
<v Speaker 2>It was very I think also neither of us were

0:50:41.000 --> 0:50:45.000
<v Speaker 2>anywhere near ready for it, yeah, and I just didn't

0:50:45.160 --> 0:50:50.640
<v Speaker 2>want it. Yeah, but when it happens to you. It happens.

0:50:50.880 --> 0:50:53.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and it's weird because you know, things are so

0:50:54.000 --> 0:50:59.480
<v Speaker 1>clear in hindsight. Yeah, when I think about that, oh

0:50:59.520 --> 0:51:02.759
<v Speaker 1>my god, by the way, in the absolute chaos, being

0:51:02.840 --> 0:51:07.640
<v Speaker 1>like there could be no worse time, I know, realizing

0:51:07.680 --> 0:51:11.040
<v Speaker 1>that I loved my partner and being like, oh god,

0:51:11.080 --> 0:51:15.439
<v Speaker 1>I have there's no not trying to do this. Yeah,

0:51:16.280 --> 0:51:19.239
<v Speaker 1>I've given myself every reason not to, and now I'm

0:51:19.560 --> 0:51:20.040
<v Speaker 1>going to.

0:51:20.200 --> 0:51:21.280
<v Speaker 2>I guess. Yeah.

0:51:22.600 --> 0:51:27.440
<v Speaker 1>And I I had a not as not a spirit

0:51:28.239 --> 0:51:30.960
<v Speaker 1>of a wise six year old, but what I had

0:51:31.120 --> 0:51:35.480
<v Speaker 1>was like I felt like something passed through me, if

0:51:35.480 --> 0:51:37.759
<v Speaker 1>that makes sense, Like I took a deep breath in

0:51:37.760 --> 0:51:39.320
<v Speaker 1>a way I never had before.

0:51:39.440 --> 0:51:46.160
<v Speaker 2>Oh that's interesting, and I went, uh oh yeah.

0:51:44.640 --> 0:51:47.960
<v Speaker 1>But thank god because it was complicated and it was hard,

0:51:48.080 --> 0:51:51.279
<v Speaker 1>and I think if I hadn't had that feeling that

0:51:51.440 --> 0:51:53.880
<v Speaker 1>made me sit and be quiet.

0:51:54.239 --> 0:51:56.960
<v Speaker 2>Like you've been on set with that man. Yeah, just wait.

0:51:57.080 --> 0:51:58.520
<v Speaker 1>I was like, I'm just gonna sit in my chair

0:51:58.520 --> 0:52:00.640
<v Speaker 1>and I'm going to wait. And I don't know why, yeah,

0:52:00.640 --> 0:52:02.520
<v Speaker 1>because I probably should run, But what I'm gonna do

0:52:02.560 --> 0:52:04.480
<v Speaker 1>is I'm gonna sit here and I'm gonna wait. I

0:52:04.520 --> 0:52:08.000
<v Speaker 1>sat and I waited, and now I'm like, like, I'm

0:52:08.040 --> 0:52:09.920
<v Speaker 1>too old to say I know what's forever and what

0:52:10.000 --> 0:52:12.000
<v Speaker 1>the future holds. But I'm like, I've just I've never

0:52:12.200 --> 0:52:13.440
<v Speaker 1>I've never taken a deep.

0:52:13.239 --> 0:52:18.840
<v Speaker 2>Breath like this, So yeah, it's nice. I Jason and

0:52:18.880 --> 0:52:20.360
<v Speaker 2>I were talking the other day and I was like,

0:52:20.920 --> 0:52:24.600
<v Speaker 2>everybody's boring. Like people are great. I love people. I

0:52:24.600 --> 0:52:27.600
<v Speaker 2>love meeting people, talking to people, but there's no like,

0:52:27.800 --> 0:52:32.600
<v Speaker 2>oh what that they like? You know, like, isn't it weird.

0:52:32.440 --> 0:52:34.239
<v Speaker 1>When you're like I genuinely want to just hang out

0:52:34.280 --> 0:52:35.279
<v Speaker 1>at home all I.

0:52:35.280 --> 0:52:37.560
<v Speaker 2>Want to do. I know, I mean, this is lovely,

0:52:38.000 --> 0:52:40.759
<v Speaker 2>it is. Do you know what I was about to

0:52:40.760 --> 0:52:41.399
<v Speaker 2>say is I'm like.

0:52:41.320 --> 0:52:43.319
<v Speaker 1>What I would really love is for you too to

0:52:43.320 --> 0:52:44.160
<v Speaker 1>call or will come?

0:52:44.520 --> 0:52:44.880
<v Speaker 2>Yes?

0:52:45.239 --> 0:52:48.040
<v Speaker 1>Then on my head other people that are so happy

0:52:48.040 --> 0:52:49.319
<v Speaker 1>at home, I'm like, do you want to hang out.

0:52:49.239 --> 0:52:51.640
<v Speaker 2>In my home? Or maybe we come to your exactly.

0:52:51.760 --> 0:52:54.759
<v Speaker 1>It's just that, yeah, we have to do upset otherwise.

0:52:55.239 --> 0:52:58.080
<v Speaker 2>I know, I feel great, Like it's wild.

0:52:58.400 --> 0:53:02.120
<v Speaker 1>Okay, wait, I love knowing because I adore him and

0:53:02.160 --> 0:53:05.520
<v Speaker 1>you know I adore you, and oh my god, he's

0:53:05.560 --> 0:53:10.239
<v Speaker 1>just the most wonderful and I just think about you know,

0:53:10.280 --> 0:53:12.440
<v Speaker 1>we used to run around la and go to auditions

0:53:12.480 --> 0:53:14.759
<v Speaker 1>together when you were babies, and so it's like I

0:53:14.880 --> 0:53:18.680
<v Speaker 1>cherish him in that sweet childhood sort of energy.

0:53:19.000 --> 0:53:21.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but it's funny.

0:53:20.760 --> 0:53:23.080
<v Speaker 1>To know that you were like not him and then

0:53:23.160 --> 0:53:26.279
<v Speaker 1>everything was a mess because on the internet, you guys

0:53:26.280 --> 0:53:26.759
<v Speaker 1>are a couple.

0:53:26.880 --> 0:53:27.360
<v Speaker 2>You know, you're a.

0:53:27.320 --> 0:53:30.719
<v Speaker 3>Couple goals, the hashtag we hate it, which is probably

0:53:30.840 --> 0:53:35.719
<v Speaker 3>so annoying, but it's also because it's really undeniable how

0:53:35.840 --> 0:53:42.359
<v Speaker 3>lovely you both are, and you're lovely together, and you're

0:53:42.400 --> 0:53:44.239
<v Speaker 3>just very genuine about all of it.

0:53:44.640 --> 0:53:46.440
<v Speaker 1>I think how much you love each other and how

0:53:46.480 --> 0:53:50.719
<v Speaker 1>silly life is. How do you do you try to

0:53:50.760 --> 0:53:53.480
<v Speaker 1>ignore the Internet or does it amuse you?

0:53:55.120 --> 0:53:58.799
<v Speaker 2>I think it amuses Jason. Jason is more like online

0:53:58.840 --> 0:54:01.719
<v Speaker 2>than I am. It sort of freaks me out a

0:54:01.760 --> 0:54:05.319
<v Speaker 2>little bit. It is funny because I think if him

0:54:05.400 --> 0:54:08.880
<v Speaker 2>from that period of time would see this, he would

0:54:09.200 --> 0:54:12.640
<v Speaker 2>be so shocked. He'd be like, what is happening? Who's

0:54:12.680 --> 0:54:16.680
<v Speaker 2>this guy like professing his love? Like he was really

0:54:16.719 --> 0:54:20.200
<v Speaker 2>trying to be like cool single guy. Yeah, I know,

0:54:20.600 --> 0:54:25.240
<v Speaker 2>I know it was really he did his best. Sweet

0:54:25.280 --> 0:54:29.040
<v Speaker 2>It was a real journey, Sweet baby, I know, sweet baby,

0:54:29.080 --> 0:54:31.160
<v Speaker 2>but we were in a couple's therapy like three weeks

0:54:31.160 --> 0:54:35.560
<v Speaker 2>after we met each other with the same therapist. Amazing. Yeah,

0:54:35.640 --> 0:54:38.160
<v Speaker 2>what did she say? In our first session? She figured

0:54:38.160 --> 0:54:42.319
<v Speaker 2>out that she was also seeing Jason and I was like, oh, well,

0:54:42.320 --> 0:54:44.399
<v Speaker 2>then I guess you can't be my therapist. She was like, ah,

0:54:46.880 --> 0:54:52.600
<v Speaker 2>like coming together, let's see what happens. So I was like, okay, okay,

0:54:53.000 --> 0:54:55.680
<v Speaker 2>you're you have no boundaries. Oh my god, I'm amazing.

0:54:55.840 --> 0:54:56.400
<v Speaker 2>So I love you.

0:54:56.680 --> 0:54:58.959
<v Speaker 1>I wish my therapist had no boundaries. I keep trying

0:54:58.960 --> 0:55:01.000
<v Speaker 1>to get him to hang out with me hmm, and

0:55:01.040 --> 0:55:04.360
<v Speaker 1>he won't and I'm like, Trevor, you're married to a woman.

0:55:04.520 --> 0:55:08.759
<v Speaker 1>I'm dating a woman. It's so not weird, Like let's

0:55:08.800 --> 0:55:12.600
<v Speaker 1>all go to lunch. And he's like, no, it's not ethical,

0:55:12.680 --> 0:55:15.520
<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, but why. It's like we talk about

0:55:15.560 --> 0:55:17.319
<v Speaker 1>our partners all the time, and I want to, like

0:55:17.680 --> 0:55:19.480
<v Speaker 1>m I don't know. It feels weird that I don't

0:55:19.520 --> 0:55:21.239
<v Speaker 1>know her, and he's like, it's not weird for me.

0:55:21.400 --> 0:55:24.000
<v Speaker 2>Stop stop, this is how it should bathe That is

0:55:24.239 --> 0:55:27.360
<v Speaker 2>more normal. I don't like it. That is more normal.

0:55:27.520 --> 0:55:30.640
<v Speaker 2>I mean, my therapist was like bringing a shaman in now,

0:55:30.680 --> 0:55:33.000
<v Speaker 2>and again I'm not mad at it. I think we

0:55:33.040 --> 0:55:34.600
<v Speaker 2>need the shaman for this issue.

0:55:34.719 --> 0:55:37.480
<v Speaker 1>As deeply nerdy about science as I am, I'm also

0:55:37.600 --> 0:55:41.000
<v Speaker 1>really into the mystical. It's like yependulum really swings both

0:55:41.000 --> 0:55:41.560
<v Speaker 1>ways for me.

0:55:41.840 --> 0:55:45.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm very into the mystical. Like I like, we

0:55:45.880 --> 0:55:48.520
<v Speaker 2>moved a little while ago to a new house and

0:55:48.520 --> 0:55:51.520
<v Speaker 2>my organizer made this box that he said, and I'm

0:55:51.520 --> 0:55:53.720
<v Speaker 2>making a box that's going to be called mystic box.

0:55:53.800 --> 0:55:56.120
<v Speaker 2>And I was like, oh what. She was like, it's

0:55:56.120 --> 0:55:58.600
<v Speaker 2>for your mysticism items. And I was like, I don't

0:55:58.600 --> 0:56:01.520
<v Speaker 2>think I have. And then I was like, oh, my god,

0:56:01.960 --> 0:56:06.480
<v Speaker 2>many an item, so many and that many animals? Oh

0:56:06.520 --> 0:56:09.400
<v Speaker 2>my god in the tarot dicks and I have a

0:56:09.440 --> 0:56:12.920
<v Speaker 2>good one for you. Oh do you? Oh I'm excited. Okay, Oh,

0:56:12.960 --> 0:56:13.600
<v Speaker 2>I'm excited.

0:56:14.640 --> 0:56:17.000
<v Speaker 1>And now a word from our sponsors that I really

0:56:17.080 --> 0:56:27.120
<v Speaker 1>enjoy and I think you will too. I love being

0:56:27.120 --> 0:56:31.000
<v Speaker 1>in my forties, and I love what love feels like

0:56:31.080 --> 0:56:34.600
<v Speaker 1>in my forties, and I love our world of even

0:56:34.640 --> 0:56:38.839
<v Speaker 1>work in our forties. What does it feel like for

0:56:38.880 --> 0:56:43.640
<v Speaker 1>you like to be here and so present? And I

0:56:43.680 --> 0:56:45.440
<v Speaker 1>don't know, are you kind of in love with your

0:56:45.480 --> 0:56:46.360
<v Speaker 1>forties too.

0:56:47.760 --> 0:56:50.640
<v Speaker 2>I am, I think like a big surprise, not surprise,

0:56:50.840 --> 0:56:55.400
<v Speaker 2>but like, if I'm being super honest, I love being

0:56:55.440 --> 0:56:58.520
<v Speaker 2>a mother so much, and so a big pad of

0:57:00.239 --> 0:57:01.839
<v Speaker 2>I think in my forties because I had my daughter

0:57:01.840 --> 0:57:04.200
<v Speaker 2>when I was forty one, and then I was like,

0:57:04.239 --> 0:57:05.680
<v Speaker 2>I just I want to do that again, and I

0:57:05.760 --> 0:57:08.480
<v Speaker 2>haven't been able to. So that's taken up a lot

0:57:08.520 --> 0:57:12.680
<v Speaker 2>of I guess I have not had as much appreciation

0:57:12.880 --> 0:57:15.279
<v Speaker 2>from my forties because I felt a little bit of

0:57:15.280 --> 0:57:20.120
<v Speaker 2>a ticking bock on this thing that I think I'm

0:57:20.120 --> 0:57:23.040
<v Speaker 2>starting to make peace with. That's the greatest kid in

0:57:23.080 --> 0:57:28.280
<v Speaker 2>the world. We just give everything to this little person. Yeah,

0:57:28.600 --> 0:57:32.120
<v Speaker 2>So that's been the only kind of like about that.

0:57:32.920 --> 0:57:38.240
<v Speaker 2>But otherwise just feel I'm very grateful to be parenting

0:57:38.440 --> 0:57:42.120
<v Speaker 2>at this age, even though it's meant that another one

0:57:42.160 --> 0:57:45.560
<v Speaker 2>hasn't been able to happen, right, because I just I

0:57:45.640 --> 0:57:49.560
<v Speaker 2>know myself, I know her, I know her dad, I

0:57:49.600 --> 0:57:53.240
<v Speaker 2>love her dad. Like it's not a relationship where we're

0:57:53.240 --> 0:57:55.520
<v Speaker 2>trying to figure things out or figure each other out.

0:57:55.600 --> 0:58:00.680
<v Speaker 2>It's very calm, right, and I just has been so

0:58:01.040 --> 0:58:02.480
<v Speaker 2>surprisingly wonderful.

0:58:02.760 --> 0:58:09.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Yeah, there's a I never like to say a

0:58:10.080 --> 0:58:12.840
<v Speaker 1>settled feeling, because I always feel like using that word

0:58:13.000 --> 0:58:16.320
<v Speaker 1>is so close to settling down or settling Yeah, you know,

0:58:17.400 --> 0:58:20.480
<v Speaker 1>but it's like an ease, like there's more of a

0:58:20.600 --> 0:58:25.280
<v Speaker 1>rest and how it feels maybe to be in this

0:58:25.400 --> 0:58:27.040
<v Speaker 1>stage very very much.

0:58:27.120 --> 0:58:29.080
<v Speaker 2>And I didn't think that was the thing I was

0:58:29.160 --> 0:58:35.080
<v Speaker 2>capable of. Like I remember that same boyfriend who helped

0:58:35.120 --> 0:58:36.960
<v Speaker 2>me through my eating disorder, we like went on a

0:58:37.040 --> 0:58:40.000
<v Speaker 2>vacation and I was sneaking away to the payphone to

0:58:40.040 --> 0:58:42.600
<v Speaker 2>call my agent because I knew it was like just relaxed,

0:58:42.640 --> 0:58:45.120
<v Speaker 2>it's not time for work, and I was like totally.

0:58:45.200 --> 0:58:47.800
<v Speaker 2>And then I'd be like, is anything coming? Like what

0:58:47.880 --> 0:58:50.479
<v Speaker 2>happened with that audition? Like I was so worried about

0:58:50.520 --> 0:58:53.440
<v Speaker 2>what snakes? What snakes? What's going to happen? Yeah, I

0:58:53.480 --> 0:58:57.000
<v Speaker 2>couldn't imagine. Even all through my thirties, I felt that

0:58:57.200 --> 0:59:00.600
<v Speaker 2>so much, like what's coming, how's it going to be received,

0:59:00.800 --> 0:59:04.880
<v Speaker 2>what's the next job? And you know, I know part

0:59:04.920 --> 0:59:08.120
<v Speaker 2>of that is being in a place where work has

0:59:08.200 --> 0:59:10.640
<v Speaker 2>been easy for the last few years, which I'm so

0:59:10.760 --> 0:59:14.760
<v Speaker 2>grateful for, but it's also just being happy. Yeah, and

0:59:14.840 --> 0:59:16.760
<v Speaker 2>when I go to work, I'm like, do I really

0:59:16.800 --> 0:59:20.840
<v Speaker 2>want to leave me? Do I really want to not

0:59:20.880 --> 0:59:23.120
<v Speaker 2>be able to volunteer at school for a few weeks

0:59:23.160 --> 0:59:26.320
<v Speaker 2>and not to drop off and not drive her home

0:59:26.360 --> 0:59:29.600
<v Speaker 2>and hear about her day and everyone who's annoying her

0:59:29.680 --> 0:59:36.480
<v Speaker 2>and everyone who she loves. You know, Oh, it's so crazy. Yeah.

0:59:36.920 --> 0:59:40.440
<v Speaker 1>We had a biting incident with one of Ash's kids

0:59:40.480 --> 0:59:43.400
<v Speaker 1>not doing it having it done to them at school,

0:59:43.840 --> 0:59:45.680
<v Speaker 1>and I was like, what is this feeling?

0:59:45.880 --> 0:59:46.840
<v Speaker 2>What is this rage?

0:59:46.920 --> 0:59:49.280
<v Speaker 1>What is this like I will punt a small child

0:59:49.400 --> 0:59:54.680
<v Speaker 1>if they don't stop doing this ye to this kid

0:59:54.760 --> 0:59:57.960
<v Speaker 1>who is magic to me? Yeah, And I was like, wow,

0:59:58.040 --> 1:00:00.680
<v Speaker 1>this is And I called a lot my friends who

1:00:00.680 --> 1:00:02.520
<v Speaker 1>have little kids, and I was like, nobody told me

1:00:02.600 --> 1:00:06.520
<v Speaker 1>about like the defensive rage part. One of my girlfriends goes,

1:00:06.560 --> 1:00:08.640
<v Speaker 1>you know that adage about how mom could pick up

1:00:08.680 --> 1:00:09.200
<v Speaker 1>a car.

1:00:09.480 --> 1:00:09.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

1:00:09.920 --> 1:00:13.880
<v Speaker 1>I was like, yep, ding ding ding, Yeah, understood, got it,

1:00:14.120 --> 1:00:15.200
<v Speaker 1>that's true.

1:00:15.280 --> 1:00:18.600
<v Speaker 2>The angriest I've ever seen, Jason, I think, was we

1:00:18.600 --> 1:00:21.840
<v Speaker 2>were in Atlanta. My daughter like mad a little friend

1:00:21.880 --> 1:00:23.360
<v Speaker 2>on the playground. He was a boy. He was like

1:00:23.360 --> 1:00:26.200
<v Speaker 2>maybe eighteen months older than her, and he was maybe

1:00:26.200 --> 1:00:28.360
<v Speaker 2>four and a half. She was like three, and he

1:00:28.400 --> 1:00:30.720
<v Speaker 2>said to her, you just sit in the corner and

1:00:30.880 --> 1:00:33.520
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to be playing, and you just watch me playing.

1:00:34.320 --> 1:00:37.640
<v Speaker 2>And she was like, I'll play and he was like no, no, no,

1:00:37.800 --> 1:00:40.240
<v Speaker 2>you just watch and I'm going to be And so

1:00:41.360 --> 1:00:44.720
<v Speaker 2>she sat there and I was like and Jason was like,

1:00:45.560 --> 1:00:48.280
<v Speaker 2>get out. Like he was so he didn't like yell

1:00:48.280 --> 1:00:50.520
<v Speaker 2>at a child, but he like, he was like, come on,

1:00:51.200 --> 1:00:53.120
<v Speaker 2>get out of there, like, don't play with this kid.

1:00:53.560 --> 1:00:56.000
<v Speaker 2>And I was like, you gotta take it down a notch.

1:00:56.280 --> 1:00:59.480
<v Speaker 2>But he was so furious that anybody would like tell

1:00:59.800 --> 1:01:02.760
<v Speaker 2>her child to sit in a corner and just watch it.

1:01:03.160 --> 1:01:04.320
<v Speaker 2>She was like, he was like no.

1:01:04.440 --> 1:01:06.959
<v Speaker 1>I was like, what a metaphor for the patriarchy, my god.

1:01:07.120 --> 1:01:10.080
<v Speaker 1>Truly on the topic of saving the world, if you

1:01:10.160 --> 1:01:11.840
<v Speaker 1>have to be stranded in the woods, and now this

1:01:11.880 --> 1:01:15.800
<v Speaker 1>can be person or character with one of your Yellow

1:01:15.840 --> 1:01:21.400
<v Speaker 1>Jackets castmates, like back to the Apocalypse question, who are

1:01:21.400 --> 1:01:24.840
<v Speaker 1>you picking to really help you survive or a character?

1:01:26.160 --> 1:01:33.200
<v Speaker 2>Gosh, that'd all be very very good. I do feel

1:01:33.200 --> 1:01:39.960
<v Speaker 2>like Christina is very practical and she would be good

1:01:39.960 --> 1:01:42.200
<v Speaker 2>in an emergency. I think I like that.

1:01:42.320 --> 1:01:46.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, if you could reboot any classic nineties film or

1:01:46.040 --> 1:01:47.400
<v Speaker 1>show and star in it.

1:01:47.520 --> 1:01:50.920
<v Speaker 2>What would it be? It's really Oh, I shouldn't say

1:01:50.960 --> 1:01:54.360
<v Speaker 2>that my husband's on Metlock, but I like that, you

1:01:54.400 --> 1:01:54.600
<v Speaker 2>know what.

1:01:54.640 --> 1:01:56.560
<v Speaker 1>I think of that as as more of a reimagine.

1:01:56.560 --> 1:01:59.120
<v Speaker 1>It's a reimagine, perhaps even a chapter two.

1:01:59.680 --> 1:02:02.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's so different. It is. The Matlock is so

1:02:03.000 --> 1:02:05.840
<v Speaker 2>different and it's very fun and I am obsessed with it.

1:02:06.200 --> 1:02:09.680
<v Speaker 2>I am. Do you have an answer for this? It's

1:02:09.680 --> 1:02:10.640
<v Speaker 2>such a good question.

1:02:10.880 --> 1:02:14.200
<v Speaker 1>I do, and I read the weird thing? Is it

1:02:14.320 --> 1:02:15.280
<v Speaker 1>hit me this week?

1:02:16.240 --> 1:02:22.160
<v Speaker 2>Moonlighting? Oh, it's so good. Come on right, See my

1:02:22.200 --> 1:02:26.520
<v Speaker 2>favorite show when I was maybe like ten, that's not

1:02:26.600 --> 1:02:29.960
<v Speaker 2>quite the when was thirty something. That was my favorite show.

1:02:30.040 --> 1:02:33.200
<v Speaker 2>But I think that's late eighties. That's okay, it's close enough.

1:02:33.480 --> 1:02:35.880
<v Speaker 2>It was my favorite show. Oh, I lated it. And

1:02:35.880 --> 1:02:38.560
<v Speaker 2>I also really loved La Law. Oh my god. La

1:02:38.680 --> 1:02:42.040
<v Speaker 2>Law was so good. It's so good. Yeah, is there

1:02:42.080 --> 1:02:45.560
<v Speaker 2>a good like Flashy? We could be like sexy lawyers.

1:02:46.240 --> 1:02:48.760
<v Speaker 2>You know, I would like to play a lawyer. I

1:02:48.800 --> 1:02:51.360
<v Speaker 2>would too. I never get to do stuff like that.

1:02:51.760 --> 1:02:54.760
<v Speaker 2>Why I always have a car? I'm always like in

1:02:54.840 --> 1:02:57.440
<v Speaker 2>a plaid shirt or like because you was.

1:02:57.520 --> 1:03:01.720
<v Speaker 1>So emotionally available as an that people are like, let

1:03:01.840 --> 1:03:04.160
<v Speaker 1>us see her, let us see the darkness, and you're like,

1:03:04.200 --> 1:03:06.400
<v Speaker 1>give me a.

1:03:05.640 --> 1:03:09.320
<v Speaker 2>You want a power suit and a nice heel. I do.

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<v Speaker 1>Put some shitty lawyer named Zach in his place.

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<v Speaker 2>I never have to wear heels at look. Okay, never.

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<v Speaker 1>Hollywood, Like, who do I address for this part? If

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<v Speaker 1>you're listening, Hollywood, we'd like to do a law show.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Yeah, and you should be on it. I

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<v Speaker 2>love it.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, my dad still can't believe I'm not a lawyer.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like you just He's like, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Were made to argue on behalf of people. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>you're what You're not? Charles. What's a role?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, this is always a funny question because I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>this came from one of our producers who's never had

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<v Speaker 1>to audition for anything.

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<v Speaker 2>What's the role that you turned down that you still

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<v Speaker 2>think about? Well, I was never in a position to

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<v Speaker 2>be like.

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<v Speaker 1>When people say have to choose your roles, You're like,

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<v Speaker 1>I am auditioning a job.

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<v Speaker 2>I will say it's been a long time since I

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<v Speaker 2>which I'm feel very grateful, which feels correct because I'm

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<v Speaker 2>bad at it. I hate it. I think it's a

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<v Speaker 2>separate skill.

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<v Speaker 1>It is, and it's like, I'm never going to have

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<v Speaker 1>the experience I don't care who I'm reading with that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to have with you in a scene when

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<v Speaker 1>you surprise me with something you think or like it's

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<v Speaker 1>alchemy between two people and the audition is inherently hollow

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<v Speaker 1>because the other person isn't there. Yeah, thank you for

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<v Speaker 1>coming to my ted talk.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like a chemistry read I'm fine with same. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>but just an audition, and especially when they give you

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<v Speaker 2>like all the crying scenes.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's like twelve pages by tomorrow, I know, my god, no,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you? Yeah, Okay, I think this is a long list.

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<v Speaker 1>But who has been the celebrity fan of yellow jackets

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<v Speaker 1>that's just tickled you the most or surprised you the most.

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<v Speaker 2>Gosh, it's really nice that it's been received so well. God,

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<v Speaker 2>I actually don't know. I don't know why.

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<v Speaker 1>In my brain I have this vision of Meryl streep

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<v Speaker 1>Oh telling you how much she loves yellow Jackets. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if it's happened.

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<v Speaker 2>But happen it's not happened.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Well, in my brain, that would be the really

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<v Speaker 1>fun one for you.

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<v Speaker 2>That would be a really fun one. I think it's true.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's true. I was at a Patty and

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<v Speaker 2>making the staalim. It was like I love you, and

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<v Speaker 2>I said I love you and she goes, no, you don't,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was like, I don't look that uncool, Like

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<v Speaker 2>yes I do. I was like, I really genuinely do.

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<v Speaker 2>She's so cool. It's so cool. The fact that you

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<v Speaker 2>said that, Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>We're officially now the Megan the Stallion fan club means

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<v Speaker 1>I have to tell you what happened. So this past year,

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<v Speaker 1>Elton John does this big fundraiser during the Oscars to

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<v Speaker 1>raise money for the AIDS Foundation. I went, I turn

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<v Speaker 1>around and Megan the Stallion is eight inches from my face,

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<v Speaker 1>floating by in this.

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<v Speaker 2>Like Marrigl dress. She's so beautiful, and I got she's

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<v Speaker 2>so beautiful, it's like crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>I lost control of my physical body and gasped that

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<v Speaker 1>loud into her face and she turned and I went, sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>I love you, and she goes, oh my god, girl,

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<v Speaker 1>I love you.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was like not possible. And she was like

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<v Speaker 2>what and her friend was like.

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<v Speaker 1>No, she she really like she likes your show. And

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<v Speaker 1>I was like wait what And I was like, we

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<v Speaker 1>have to take a picture and nobody's gonna believe me

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<v Speaker 1>that this happened.

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<v Speaker 2>And we took a picture, and then for the rest

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<v Speaker 2>of the night, I'm.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, she's just really a nice lady who probably is

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<v Speaker 1>so nice to everyone who loves her and makes you

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<v Speaker 1>feel like she knows you and loves you. And I

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<v Speaker 1>saw her yesterday and I walked into.

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<v Speaker 2>A room and she went Sylphia her girl. And I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, oh my god, she meant it. I'm telling

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<v Speaker 2>you that it's trick.

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<v Speaker 1>She's she likes serialized television dramas and she mean, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>she meant it.

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<v Speaker 2>That's nice. She was very sweet. She's an icon. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I could not have been more awkward. No, And then

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<v Speaker 2>I stood differ a minute, and then I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>can I get you a drink? She was like, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>there's no like buying, you know, you just get it.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't drink. I can't be you can get a drink.

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<v Speaker 2>She's fine, just like thanks though, and you're like cool.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I was such a nerdy kid, like

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how.

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<v Speaker 1>To I can't be in those rooms. I can't be

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<v Speaker 1>around famous people and my best friend it's horrible, and

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<v Speaker 1>my best friend goes to things with me, and she'll

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<v Speaker 1>be like, stop at your being so weird.

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<v Speaker 2>You are also a famous person, And I'm like, not

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<v Speaker 2>like Megan the Stallion, like I can't.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know why suddenly I lose the ability to

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<v Speaker 1>be regular because I'm like, well, do I tell you

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<v Speaker 1>about all the things I know that you've done that

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<v Speaker 1>I think are great?

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<v Speaker 2>Or is that awkward? So then do I not tell you? So?

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<v Speaker 1>Then do I pretend that I don't know about you?

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<v Speaker 1>So I feel like I become the the like clown

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<v Speaker 1>car version of myself.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's not a good look for me. I'm sure

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<v Speaker 2>it's very adorable. It's not. But but I know what

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<v Speaker 2>you mean, Like it's a really it's very hard to

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<v Speaker 2>know how to behave mm hmm hmm. Well, I can't

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<v Speaker 2>wait to just start running and hiding behind you at work.

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<v Speaker 2>Please please, thank God, more awkward, perfect, great come out

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<v Speaker 2>from behind me. You'll seem really collected, really cool.

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<v Speaker 1>I just I'm gonna I'm going to take a page

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<v Speaker 1>from the psychic and just be quiet.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so so weird, Like I've never felt more awkward

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<v Speaker 2>in my life.

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<v Speaker 1>She's right, Well, yep, and now you're friends with this man? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>dying to know who it is, but I shan't ask

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<v Speaker 1>whilst the world is listening, My dear, My favorite thing

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<v Speaker 1>to ask people is and it can be personal or professional,

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<v Speaker 1>it can really be anything that comes to mind. But

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<v Speaker 1>right now, for you, in this lovely moment in your life,

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<v Speaker 1>what feels like you're working progress?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh gosh, there's there's so much. I feel like I

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<v Speaker 2>still am learning to accept good things. It sounds a

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<v Speaker 2>bit silly, but I had to admit that to myself

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<v Speaker 2>the other day. Yeah, like, you don't have to sort

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<v Speaker 2>of struggle through something. You can ask for things to

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<v Speaker 2>be better. You don't have to be well, this is

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<v Speaker 2>like better than my wildest dreams. You know. It's just

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<v Speaker 2>allowing yourself to want good things and good people around you.

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<v Speaker 2>And like, I don't know, I just sort of it's

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<v Speaker 2>so hard for me to accept positive things happening that

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<v Speaker 2>there's a part of me that's like, well that's enough,

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<v Speaker 2>then that's good. Thank you so much. I had, and

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<v Speaker 2>then I was like, no, I want good things to

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<v Speaker 2>keep happening and I to multiply. Yeah, And so I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's that. And then also just every day with

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<v Speaker 2>my daughter, just trying to be a better parent to

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<v Speaker 2>her and learn more about her. I love it.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it's sort of interesting, right. You never want

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<v Speaker 1>her to feel like she had a finite amount of

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<v Speaker 1>good things.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh no, So yeah, here's an interesting like reparenting of

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<v Speaker 2>yourself that happens. Yeah, it's kind of cool, it's amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>And I remember Sarah Paulson said that to me years ago,

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<v Speaker 2>who was one of my very wisest friends. And she

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<v Speaker 2>always like she would be a therapist if she wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>an actor. She just always has the most perfect thing.

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<v Speaker 2>And I remember being very anxious about doing something after

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<v Speaker 2>work or something like that, and feeling very guilty about

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<v Speaker 2>being away from my child. And she pointed out to

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<v Speaker 2>me that, you know, when you've had any kind of

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<v Speaker 2>like neglect is a big word, but you know you've

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<v Speaker 2>felt sort of things missing in your life, you can

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<v Speaker 2>really try to overcorrect with your kids. And she said,

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<v Speaker 2>you have to understand that like having your own time

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<v Speaker 2>and doing something for yourself is not neglect. It's very natural.

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<v Speaker 2>It's actually really good for her to see that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>And I was like, oh, yeah, I am kind of

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<v Speaker 2>over correcting. And she doesn't want a parent who's just like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just going to be here with you whenever I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not actively working for the household. You know, she's seeing

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<v Speaker 2>her mom have a life. Yeah. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And the thing is the love you model with your

1:11:43.479 --> 1:11:46.920
<v Speaker 1>spouse will teach her. Yeah, love she sees you give

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<v Speaker 1>yourself will teach her. The love she sees between you

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<v Speaker 1>and your girlfriends, yeah, will teach her. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's really special to remember that. You know, if this

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<v Speaker 1>is neutral and and your upbringing felt like this much

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<v Speaker 1>was in the red, you don't want to go that

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<v Speaker 1>much farther into the green.

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<v Speaker 2>You wanna you want to get like just on the

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<v Speaker 2>other side of the neutral. And yeah, so it's full

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<v Speaker 2>but easy.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And that's that's a really that's a beautiful observation.

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<v Speaker 2>Me. Thank you for sharing, thank you for coming, Thank

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<v Speaker 2>you for having me.

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<v Speaker 1>Lola.

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<v Speaker 2>This is so fun. This is so fun.