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Speaker 2: at the Titans, Jets at the Dolphins, Falcons at the Vikings,

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Speaker 2: Saints at the Giants, Panthers at the Eagles, Browns at

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Speaker 2: the Steelers, Raiders at the Buccaneers. Richie, can you believe it?

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Speaker 2: Week fourteen of the NFL season. Six teams with the bye.

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Speaker 2: This is the last bye week of the NFL season.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna ask you right off the top sixteens, Broncos, Colts, Patriots, Commanders, Ravens, Texans.

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Speaker 2: How does this work for those teams to get a

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Speaker 2: buy this late in the season.

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Speaker 3: Well, how does it work? It's a scheduling flaw. You

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Speaker 3: have to have somebody take an unnecessarily early bye week

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Speaker 3: or a couple of teams, and then you have to

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Speaker 3: have a couple of teams kind of bite the bullet

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Speaker 3: and take an unnecessarily late by week. It's it's something

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Speaker 3: that I think is going to be rectified when, not if,

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Speaker 3: the NFL expands to an eighteen game season. One of

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Speaker 3: the bones that the owners are going to pitch it

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Speaker 3: as a bone being thrown to the players. But I

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Speaker 3: actually think it benefits them to have eighteen games and

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Speaker 3: two buys from a scheduling standpoint. With the networks, they'll

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Speaker 3: actually cover up more of the calendar. There's going to

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Speaker 3: be more buzz around football for longer when they expand

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Speaker 3: the regular season, and they're going to try to tell

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Speaker 3: the players like, oh wow, like you guys, you hate

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Speaker 3: the eighteen game schedule, but don't you love the extra

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Speaker 3: week of rest. Meanwhile, it's going to benefit the owners.

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Speaker 3: They'll make more money from it. So I do think

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Speaker 3: a week fourteen by won't seem so ridiculous to all

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Speaker 3: of us when a team has a week five by, yeah,

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Speaker 3: and a week fourteen by exactly.

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Speaker 2: When we get to an eighteen game schedule over twenty

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Speaker 2: weeks where everyone gets two buys, everything will make sense.

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Speaker 2: By the way, quick note on the college football playoff. Yes, yes, yes,

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Speaker 2: they did it right with SMU. Eric Dickerson opened my

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Speaker 2: show yesterday with Monsei.

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Speaker 1: He was in.

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Speaker 2: Carolina for that ACC championship game. They made a heroic

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Speaker 2: comeback only to lose with that last second field goal.

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Speaker 2: Two losses for Sm' three points to Attendant two by

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Speaker 2: BYU team last second field goal lost to Clemson. They

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Speaker 2: deserved it over Alabama SEC overrated this year, they'll still

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Speaker 2: have three schools there. But I want to say congratulations

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Speaker 2: to the playoff selection committee.

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Speaker 1: They got it right with SMU over Alabama.

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean you say overrated, I mean twenty five

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Speaker 2: I know exactly we knew this, but we said this

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Speaker 2: rich before. That's the thing we predicted before the season

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Speaker 2: began that eight of the twelve teams would come out

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Speaker 1: And it almost happened until SMU lost.

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Speaker 2: So we got four teams out of the Big Ten,

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Speaker 2: one Big twelve school and then he got Boise Stage,

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Speaker 2: he got Notre Dame. Uh yeah, I mean it's it's

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Speaker 2: a it's a different world. But at the least SEMU

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Speaker 2: got it right. I texted Eric right as they announced

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Speaker 2: that SMU made He goes, yeah, Eric, Eric Dickerson, of course,

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Speaker 2: one of the great SMU players of all time, and

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Speaker 2: many mistakes early in that game put him in a

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Speaker 2: hole against Clemson. Nice comeback that they didn't got the win,

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Speaker 2: the playoffs. So again we're looking forward to you know,

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Speaker 2: this is going to be four weeks of college football playoffs. Yeah, weeks, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: of course. Rich By the way, folks, if you don't

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Speaker 2: know already, you're like twelve, that's good number.

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Speaker 1: Rich one's sixty four.

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Speaker 4: I wouldn't mind.

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't mind it to look exactly like college basketball.

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Speaker 4: Now. I think sixty four is a bit too much, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: But a field of thirty two you already too, I

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Speaker 3: bowl season anyways, we will have alongside these four weeks

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Speaker 3: games that are going to be played out all across

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Speaker 3: America for a variety of meaning. You know, what I mean,

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Speaker 3: I look at it this way. How could we make

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Speaker 3: the postseason of college football more meaningful for everybody? Invite

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Speaker 3: more people to the party. I thought it was a

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Speaker 3: blast hearing some of these co which is politicking at

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Speaker 2: Season, Yeah, pleading their case. Can you imagine Old War

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Speaker 2: was the number one? I mean, he was shagging because Alabama,

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Speaker 2: the twelve school field and they didn't deserve it. Blowout

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Speaker 2: By the way, Also, I did get my Heisman vote

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Speaker 2: in today. I can't reveal it obviously. Heisman will be

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Speaker 2: announced next Saturday. Next Sunday, though I will reveal on

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Speaker 2: our show how I voted for this year's Hushman.

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Speaker 3: Liz, I don't want you to divulge it because I

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Speaker 3: don't want you to lose your vote. But yes, just

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Speaker 3: between you and me right now, could you tell me?

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Speaker 2: I will tell you off air, but I will say this.

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Speaker 2: All the games have been played, by the way, not

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Speaker 2: all of them. Remember the Army Navy game is coming

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Speaker 2: up next Saturday. And that Army quarterback what is a

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Speaker 2: guy like? Fifty touchdowns? He's unreal? This guy as Army

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Speaker 2: right now, and the closest to a score the Dolphins

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Speaker 1: It's a good way to start right now.

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Speaker 2: Let's talk a little bit about the Jets oka and

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Speaker 2: where are we right now with the future of Aaron Rodgers?

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Speaker 2: In your opinion, do you believe because Aaron Rodgers is

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Speaker 3: I do think there's gonna be a market I do

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Speaker 3: because here's the deal, he's going to leave New York

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Speaker 3: does with New York. New York bent over backwards, catered

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Speaker 3: I shouldn't say it that way, because that's unfair. He

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Speaker 3: you cannot convince me that if Josh Allen, Patrick mahomes

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Speaker 4: Maybe at this.

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Speaker 3: Point there's a variety of quarterbacks who if you put

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Speaker 4: I think that he has become the problem.

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Speaker 1: I one hundred percent agree. By the way, what do

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Speaker 1: you think is more likely.

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Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers as a starting quarterback opening day?

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Speaker 2: There is our first touchdown of the day, and who

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Speaker 2: the Jets. But what is more likely Aaron Rodgers to

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Speaker 2: week one in the NFL in twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 3: Well, at this point, I would say Aaron Rodgers because

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Speaker 3: the sources are are circling around him accepting this UNC

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Speaker 3: a twist in this storyline. I did not expect to see.

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Speaker 2: Oh, we just got our first miss extra point of

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Speaker 2: temp of the day, no good by the Dolphins, six

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Speaker 1: What haf you got feeling?

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Speaker 2: We heard, of course, the Belichick interview for the North

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Speaker 3: There is something to be said about Belichick's ceaseless curiosity

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Speaker 3: in the NFL, obviously, Brady was a lynchpin for his

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Speaker 3: If you can get the buy in of your quarterback,

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Speaker 3: if you get a quarterback who is so special that

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Speaker 3: he is willing to take, you know, price, whatever you

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Speaker 3: want to call it, a price, breaks you know, what

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Speaker 3: win championships. A. You need to find the right quarterback.

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Speaker 3: He did in Tom Brady, but be you need to

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Speaker 3: create a culture where everybody buys into servicing this quarterback.

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Speaker 3: This culture the Patriot way as it was called, you

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Speaker 3: can win for decades in the NFL, and he proved

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Speaker 3: that to be true.

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Speaker 4: Now at the.

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Speaker 3: Collegiate level, I'm curious if he hasn't come up with

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Speaker 3: the college level, Like maybe it's going to be a

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Speaker 3: similar setup around one elite player or maybe two elite players.

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Speaker 3: Where with you and c obviously there's ties to you know,

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Speaker 2: I don't know if he's gonna be Nick Saban's gonna be. Oh,

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Speaker 4: I'm not saying that. I'm just saying crossover coach.

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Speaker 4: Second do a.

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Speaker 5: Goal from the two yard line. Dolphins knocking on the

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Speaker 2: That's Fox fours nine forty Dolphins Radio Network extra point

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Speaker 2: was no good. Dolphins lead the Jets six nothing. Once

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Speaker 2: By the way, the Jets right now have a third

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Speaker 2: Jamis Winston has been a red hot ever since he

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Speaker 2: But I would say, right now, odds are that Schudeur

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Speaker 3: Well, let's put it this way. Antonio Pierce has not

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Speaker 1: I think it's a real possibility.

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Speaker 2: By the way, Jameis Winston last week did something that

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Speaker 2: He had a game with at least four hundred yards passing,

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Speaker 1: That is our guy, Jameis Winston.

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Speaker 2: I is the king of the pick six He had

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Speaker 1: Four hundred yards passing and four touchdowns.

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Speaker 4: I love Jamis Winston.

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Speaker 2: He fills the stat board, by the way, doesn't he

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Speaker 3: This is the funny thing about it, though, Jamis. He

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Speaker 3: But Jamis very quickly began, I guess showcasing this personality,

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Speaker 2: Our offense looks far better with Jamis Winston. Let's give

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Speaker 3: because I don't know if if that culture is set

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Speaker 3: So if I'm if I'm Jamis Winston's agent, I want

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Speaker 2: The Falcons are in a free fall. The last week.

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Speaker 1: We got to give Penis an opportunity.

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Speaker 3: What choice have you given yourself? This is the reason

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Speaker 3: The Atlanta Falcons essentially either wasted money in free agency

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Speaker 3: the Falcons were showing and get back on the winning ways,

440
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Speaker 3: because if not, this could be disastrous for Atlanta.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's find out what is trending right now.

442
00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:49,920
Speaker 2: Yesterday months the announcing.

443
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Speaker 1: That she was going to be at the Seahawks.

444
00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:56,280
Speaker 2: Cardinals game today in Glendale, Arizona. And so the man

445
00:22:56,320 --> 00:23:00,640
Speaker 2: that every time I look up he's here, did that way.

446
00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:04,159
Speaker 2: The man is one of the busiest people. Reared and

447
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Speaker 2: Fox Sports ready, and Martin is in the house.

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Speaker 6: I like Jameis Winston, if you put me on the

449
00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:10,920
Speaker 6: roster as a backup, I will see the field.

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00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:15,720
Speaker 2: Yes, and no fear, because like Jameis Winston, he could

451
00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:18,720
Speaker 2: throw pick sixes all day and also throw four touchdown passes.

452
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Speaker 2: I mean, everyone talks about that thirty interception year, but

453
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Speaker 2: he also have thirty three touchdowns that year.

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Speaker 4: Who does that?

455
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Speaker 1: You have to have no conscience, just like Martin.

456
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Speaker 7: Well, let's go ahead to get into it.

457
00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:34,639
Speaker 6: The Jaguars right now, the Titans leading the Jaguars, and

458
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Speaker 6: a I don't know if.

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Speaker 7: We wanna call it a battle.

460
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Speaker 6: Five wins combined between both teams with one minute left

461
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Speaker 6: in the first quarter. Mac Jones just throwing an interception

462
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Speaker 6: in this game. Nick Folk with a forty six yard

463
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Speaker 6: field goal that something the scoring up there. At the

464
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Speaker 6: end of the first quarter between the Dolphins and the Jets,

465
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Speaker 6: Miami has a six to three lead. Devine hm with

466
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Speaker 6: air rushing touchdown. They missed the extra point. Andrews Calson

467
00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:59,600
Speaker 6: kicked a twenty six yard field goal. Just happens, Sam Darnold.

468
00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:02,359
Speaker 6: What they pass to Jordan Addison forty nine yards for

469
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Speaker 6: a touchdown that ties the game between the Falcons and

470
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Speaker 6: the Vikings at seven to seven. With thirty seconds left

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Speaker 6: in the first quarter, Tyler Jeer has a touchdown for

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Speaker 6: the Vikings.

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Speaker 7: No scoring so far between the Saints and the Vikings.

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Speaker 6: But Saints and the Giants rather, But New Orleans is

475
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Speaker 6: knocking on the door first a goal on the Giant

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Speaker 6: eight yard line make Blake Groopy missed a fifty three

477
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Speaker 6: yard or earlier today for the New Orleans. Same deal

478
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Speaker 6: in Panthers Eagles. No score there, third and two Philadelphia

479
00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:31,359
Speaker 6: deep in their own territory. We'll see if that goes.

480
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Speaker 6: Three minutes forty eight seconds left in the first quarter.

481
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Speaker 6: Four minutes left in the first quarter between the Browns

482
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Speaker 6: and the Steelers. Jamis Winston quarterbacking Cleveland seven to three.

483
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Speaker 6: The score that's on a Jerry Judy thirty five yard

484
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Speaker 6: touchdown catch. Chris Boswell kick the field goal from thirty

485
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Speaker 6: yards out for Pittsburgh, scoring fourteen nothing. Buccaneers over the

486
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Speaker 6: Raiders right now, two thirty left in the first quarter.

487
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Speaker 6: Baker Mayfield with two touchdown passes eight for nine ninety

488
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Speaker 6: two yards on the night, on the day, rather I say,

489
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Speaker 6: Gentleman of Milne with one of those. Rashard White with

490
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Speaker 6: the other touchdown catch. The college football Playoff is set Oregon, Georgia,

491
00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:08,040
Speaker 6: Boise State, and Arizona State of the top four seeds.

492
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Speaker 6: As Alvin Kamara goes into the end zone, they have

493
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Speaker 6: to open the scoring in newar I'm sorry. Kendrey Miller

494
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Speaker 6: goes into the end zone to open the scoring between

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Speaker 6: the Saints and the Giants six to nothing, extra point pending. Oregon, Georgia,

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Speaker 6: Boise State, Arizona State the top four seeds and have

497
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Speaker 6: first round buys in the College Football Playoff first round matchups.

498
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Speaker 6: Twelve seed at Clemson will play a fifth seed at Texas.

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Speaker 6: The Winter plays Arizona State in the Fiesta Bowl. Ninth

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Speaker 6: seed the Tennessee plays at eighth seed Ohio.

501
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Speaker 7: State, the Winter plays Oregon in the Rolls Bowl.

502
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Speaker 6: The eleventh seed SMU will play at fifth seed Penn State.

503
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Speaker 6: The Winter plays Boise State in the Peach Bowl, and

504
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Speaker 6: ten seed Indiana plays seventh seed on a Dame. The

505
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Speaker 6: winner plays Georgia in the Sugar Bowl. That extra point

506
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Speaker 6: in New Orleans is up and good. That's seven to

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Speaker 6: nothing Saints over Giants. Nearing the end of the first quarter, Steve.

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Speaker 2: Rischpeckteave Ah Martin, thank you very very much. A very

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Speaker 2: busy day in the NFL. Once again, this is Red

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Speaker 2: Zone Radio, all right, Rich again, I'm just captivated by

511
00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:12,800
Speaker 2: the bottom feeders in the NFL right now. So going

512
00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,920
Speaker 2: into this week, Giants, Raiders, Jaguars all at two and ten,

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Speaker 2: Pats at three. In ten, Pats have a quarterback, Jags

514
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:21,840
Speaker 2: have a quarterback, Raiders and Giants don't. We talked earlier

515
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Speaker 2: about the Raiders if they were to get shoudor Sanders,

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Speaker 2: would Dad followed to Las Vegas.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about the Giants.

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00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:31,080
Speaker 2: I don't think Brian Dables sitting pretty right now with

519
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:35,080
Speaker 2: a seven game losing streak. If Shaudoor Sanders ends up

520
00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:38,280
Speaker 2: as a New York Giant, do you see Dion Sanders

521
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Speaker 2: as the next coach of the New York Giants.

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Speaker 3: I think that wherever Shoudoor goes, Dion and Shouldor are

523
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Speaker 3: going to try to make it a package deal. So

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Speaker 3: I think that whatever agent represents the two of them

525
00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:59,879
Speaker 3: is going to be politicking to get Dion and should

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00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:03,760
Speaker 3: Or in the same facility. Now, whether you think it's

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00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:07,120
Speaker 3: gonna work or I think it's gonna work, that has

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00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:10,520
Speaker 3: no room in this conversation, because guess what, even though

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00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:13,680
Speaker 3: everybody told them it was a bad idea, the Falcons

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00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:16,919
Speaker 3: drafted or thought it was a bad idea. Michael Pennick

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Speaker 3: Junior is a Falcon. They traded up to get them,

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00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,679
Speaker 3: just like we were talking about. Even though everybody in

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00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 3: the world thought it was a terrible idea for the

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Speaker 3: Browns to trade away their entire future and signed Deshaun

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00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:34,480
Speaker 3: Watson to the largest contract a quarterback had ever signed,

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Speaker 3: the most guaranteed money a quarterback had ever signed for

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Speaker 3: in the history of the league, they still did it.

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00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:43,480
Speaker 4: So all it takes is a few people in.

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00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,720
Speaker 3: A room to hammer out the details of a deal

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00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:51,720
Speaker 3: that either could potentially end in disaster or who knows.

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Speaker 3: I mean, maybe Pennock Junior being drafted by the Falcons

542
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:58,480
Speaker 3: works out. Maybe Deshaun Watson figures it out. This offseason

543
00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 3: proves us all wrong. Doubt it, I sincerely do, but

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Speaker 3: I do think that there could be an NFL team

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Speaker 3: to do this, and it might be the Giants.

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00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:10,480
Speaker 2: All right, let's talk about a game right now with

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00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:11,199
Speaker 2: no score.

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00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 1: That would be the Panthers and the Eagle.

549
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:15,960
Speaker 2: Panthers on the move right now, have a second down

550
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,320
Speaker 2: and thirteen at the Eagles twenty six yard line.

551
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 1: Big story this.

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00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:23,360
Speaker 2: Week somebody placed a wager of three point one million

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00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:26,159
Speaker 2: dollars on the Eagles to win about four hundred and

554
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:27,760
Speaker 2: fifty thousand dollars.

555
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:28,400
Speaker 8: Bo Benson.

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00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:31,479
Speaker 1: Bo Benson was, was that your you win?

557
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:31,960
Speaker 4: Somebody?

558
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:34,359
Speaker 9: How stupid I would be to bet on this Eagles team?

559
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:37,360
Speaker 2: So right now, and this is a Panthers team, it's

560
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 2: not a good team, but Bryce Young is showing life.

561
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 2: He certainly did against the Chiefs, and you know he's

562
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:50,000
Speaker 2: inching his way toward respectability. They were willing to take

563
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 2: this deal, saying, all right, well, if the guy wins,

564
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 2: we can afford the four hundred and fifty thousand dollars payout.

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00:28:56,680 --> 00:29:01,880
Speaker 2: But if he loses, we rake it over three million dollars.

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Speaker 2: Does that make any sense to you? Rich? You're you're

567
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 2: a gambling guy, Would it makes sense to you to

568
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 2: wager over three million dollars on an NFL game for

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00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 2: a payoff of four hundred thousand?

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00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 3: Well, no, no, it doesn't make any sense to me.

571
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,480
Speaker 3: But there are certain people, as we know, on this planet,

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00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 3: who have the type of money that three million dollars

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00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 3: doesn't even make a dent.

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00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, but why for? I mean it doesn't. I mean

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00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 1: if you have that kind.

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Speaker 2: Of money, especially in the NFL, which we know this

577
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:34,080
Speaker 2: league expecting unexpected.

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00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 1: It's the Panthers are.

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00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 2: Not the team we saw earlier this year. They are

580
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 2: playing better football. And what's the point of this bat?

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00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 3: I don't get it. Well, just everything in perspective, right,

582
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 3: you know, say you're down to your last fifty bucks

583
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:52,480
Speaker 3: and you're playing a fifty dollars hand of blackjack, and

584
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 3: all of a sudden, a double down opportunity comes comes

585
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 3: your way, and everybody is.

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00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:58,520
Speaker 4: Behind you like, oh, you gotta double that.

587
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:00,800
Speaker 3: I mean, what are you doing? Look what the deal is?

588
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 3: So you throw your chips behind it. All of a

589
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 3: sudden you have one hundred dollars hand of blackjack, and

590
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 3: you feel like the whole room is looking at you.

591
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:12,320
Speaker 3: Imagine if you're at a tax bracket where the only

592
00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 3: way you could get your rocks off gambling is by

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Speaker 3: risking three million dollars to win a half a million.

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00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:19,360
Speaker 4: Like that's to.

595
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 3: Me, it's just it's the same game. It's just at

596
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:24,600
Speaker 3: a different level. So it does make sense to me,

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00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:28,479
Speaker 3: because if you look at life, everything's relative, and so

598
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 3: for that gambler, that's what he needs to get excited

599
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 3: about again. And guess what, a sportsbook's gonna take that

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Speaker 3: action because they look at it as a great chance

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00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:40,480
Speaker 3: to market their sportsbook because guys like us, we'll talk about.

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00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 4: On the radio.

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Speaker 3: Now looking at the game, here's the problem for the Panthers.

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00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:47,120
Speaker 3: The Philadelphia Eagles defense has been playing at an elite

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00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:50,160
Speaker 3: clip since their bye week back in Week five. Since then,

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Speaker 3: their first in points allowed, first and yards per play,

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00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:57,520
Speaker 3: first in sacks with thirty, first and force.

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00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 4: Fumbles with fifteen.

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00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 3: Many of those on those sacks that they had thirty

610
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 3: of them will remind you. And also, the Carolina Panthers

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00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:07,320
Speaker 3: are one of the worst offenses in the week, so

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00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 3: even though they're driving right now. If the great equalizer,

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00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:14,440
Speaker 3: which is the sixty minutes of a football game, bears

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00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 3: out the way, we think this will be an Eagles win.

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00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:19,480
Speaker 3: This guy will walk away with four hundred and fifty

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00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 3: thousand dollars and that'll be the storyline. Like, wow, I

617
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 3: guess much ado about nothing.

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Speaker 2: By the way, yesterday when we had Eric Dickerson on

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Speaker 2: the Last Question, MONTSI asked him about Sakuon Barkley possibly

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Speaker 2: breaking his record at twenty one hundred and five yards,

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Speaker 2: and Eric goes, well, let me make one thing perfectly clear.

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Speaker 1: No, I do not want to lose my record.

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Speaker 2: But also let's make this clear with the seventeen game

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00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 2: schedule over the sixteen game schedule he played.

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00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 1: He goes, look, I broke OJ's record and he.

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Speaker 2: Only played fourteen games when he had two thousand and

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Speaker 2: three yards. I in sixteen games had twenty one hundred

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Speaker 2: and five yards. So he's not going to squabble over

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00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 2: you know, seventeen games, Saquon breaks his record, but he

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00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 2: did make it infinity clear. I don't want to lose

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00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 2: that record. Meanwhile, the Panthers get a field goal, so

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00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 2: the uh, the guy that bet three point one million

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00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 2: dollars on the Eagles at least temporarily is losing that bet.

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Speaker 2: All right, quick rundown right now. Buccaneers lead the Raiders

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00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 2: fourteen nothing, Browns over the Steelers seven to three, Saints

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00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 2: over the Giants seven nothing. Falcons and Vikings are tied

637
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:31,160
Speaker 2: at seven. Dolphins got a field goal, increasing their lead

638
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 2: nine to three over the Jets, Titans and the Jaguars.

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Speaker 2: Why is that game being played there? You go three

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00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 2: nothing Titans in that game? All right, we're we're still

641
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 2: early on folks. Yeah, we're heading into second quarters. Seven

642
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 2: games around the NFL. For all the scores, for all

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Speaker 2: the stats, we're here. We're here for you. This is

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Speaker 2: Red Zone radio play action off that from Understenters. Tom,

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Speaker 2: He's gonna loft one up deep to Addison.

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Speaker 10: Who's hey for touchdown for Jordonniston.

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Speaker 2: That's k Fan one hundred point three FM. Vikings Radio Network.

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00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:15,800
Speaker 2: Vikings and Falcons tied at seven inside twelve minutes to

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00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 2: go in the first half in that game.

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Speaker 1: Red Zone Radio.

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Speaker 2: Here Steve Harbin Rich Orenberger were live from the ti

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Speaker 2: iraq dot com studios. Hey break up the Jets, Isaiah

653
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 2: Davis just ran it in for seventeen yard touchdown. The

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Speaker 2: Jets have taken a commanding ten to nine lead against

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Speaker 2: the Miami Dolphins.

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Speaker 1: It's a whole new show with the Jets.

657
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're you're done, right, it is, Steve. All of

658
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:44,560
Speaker 3: a sudden, this AFC East battle that we have been

659
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 3: anticipating for months now is starting to heat up here

660
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 3: as we creep into the second quarter, we'll see how

661
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 3: this stunning, stunning episode of Who Cares ends soon.

662
00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 1: Okay, let's stop.

663
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 2: Well, I'm watching a lot of the NFL shows today,

664
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:03,040
Speaker 2: right they're trying to make a case that the five

665
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 2: and seven Dolphins very much in the playoff chase, the

666
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 2: five and seven Cowboys very much in the playoff race.

667
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 1: They're not.

668
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:11,200
Speaker 4: They're not.

669
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:14,319
Speaker 2: In fact, if you look at the AFC right now,

670
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 2: Rich with the Broncos having a bye week, they're sitting

671
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 2: at eight and five right now, Even if the Chargers

672
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:23,320
Speaker 2: were to lose tonight on the road against the Chiefs,

673
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 2: they'd still be eight and five.

674
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 1: That was, that's two games clear.

675
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:31,120
Speaker 2: The Colts at six and seven, so with four games

676
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 2: to go, So both the Chargers and the Broncos are

677
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 2: in pretty good shape, right now in terms of the

678
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 2: wild card chase, the Cowboys are out of Forget the Cowboys.

679
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:44,400
Speaker 2: You know, the NFC West obviously is the big play.

680
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:48,359
Speaker 2: And it's interesting. We have three afternoon games coming up

681
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:52,279
Speaker 2: here with it's all NFC West, right, We got the

682
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:55,799
Speaker 2: Seahawks at the Cardinals, Rams hosting the Bills, forty nine

683
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 2: Ers hosting the Bears. Yeah, listen, and again somebody's got

684
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:00,640
Speaker 2: to win division.

685
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:01,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, And just to.

686
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:04,759
Speaker 3: Rewind it back to where we started the segment with

687
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 3: the Jets getting in that zone and the Dolphins in

688
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 3: this afcast matchup, and the thought process of a remote

689
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 3: chance for the Dolphins or excuse me that the Dolphins'

690
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 3: playoff hopes are still alive.

691
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:18,800
Speaker 4: They are remote at best.

692
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 3: If the Dolphins win the rest of their games, they

693
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:26,279
Speaker 3: still will probably miss the postseason.

694
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:27,360
Speaker 1: They need help.

695
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 2: In other words, Yeah, you could win out and go

696
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:32,960
Speaker 2: ten and seven, but you have again, even if the

697
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:35,800
Speaker 2: Chargers lose at Kansas City, they're eight and five.

698
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:38,439
Speaker 1: Now, if the Dolcos are eight and five, If.

699
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 3: The Dolphins had won last week and they got their

700
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:43,239
Speaker 3: record to six and six, and they were leading by

701
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 3: fourteen points heading toward halftime, I would tell you, Oh wow.

702
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:50,840
Speaker 3: All of a sudden, the Dolphins may have reinserted themselves

703
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 3: into this playoff conversation. However, last week's loss to the

704
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:58,759
Speaker 3: Packers was the win that they actually needed to be

705
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:01,759
Speaker 3: in the conversation. Done their toast, their dog meat, and

706
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 3: if they lose to the Jets, it's even worse.

707
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 1: All right, let me ask you right now about the Vikings.

708
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:11,280
Speaker 2: So we've been talking on the NFC side, Eagles, Lions, Lions, Eagles.

709
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:14,960
Speaker 2: Yesterday Adam Kaplan asked, Adam, I said, if we had

710
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:17,480
Speaker 2: a game this week between the Eagles and the Lions

711
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:20,239
Speaker 2: on a neutral field, which way would you go? And

712
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:23,239
Speaker 2: he says, I say Eagles only because you're asking about

713
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 2: this week and that Lion's defense has really banged out.

714
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:28,879
Speaker 2: The question is how many of those Lion defenders save

715
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 2: Aiden Hutchinson, are going to be back for the Lions

716
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:34,839
Speaker 2: once they get into the postseason. Are we missing out

717
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 2: on the Vikings? I mean, they won five in a row,

718
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 2: then they lost a couple. Now now they're on another

719
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 2: winning streak. Right now they're sitting at ten and two.

720
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:47,880
Speaker 2: Should the Vikings be in the conversation as a possible

721
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 2: NFC champion?

722
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 3: You remember when there was real MVP buzz around Sam Darnold.

723
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 1: Sure, five and oh start.

724
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:57,759
Speaker 3: He's playing better than he was playing during any of

725
00:36:57,800 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 3: those five games.

726
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 1: Right, they won five and lost to Now they won

727
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 1: five in a row.

728
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 4: Again.

729
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:06,400
Speaker 3: His past three games have been the best of his season.

730
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 2: That comeback last week against the Cardinals. We were sitting here, like,

731
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:10,959
Speaker 2: what happened? How'd that happen?

732
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:14,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, He's combined over the past three games for eight

733
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 3: hundred and eleven yards, seven total touchdowns, and he hasn't

734
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:22,320
Speaker 3: thrown a pick. This three game stan for Sam Donald

735
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:26,320
Speaker 3: is better than any of his three games during the

736
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 3: five game winning streak. Sam Donald is playing like more

737
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 3: of an MVP now this recent streak.

738
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:34,799
Speaker 4: The Vikings are.

739
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 1: On five game this threak.

740
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:39,279
Speaker 3: Again, they need to be more respected than they were

741
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:41,799
Speaker 3: to start the season. But because they went into that

742
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 3: mid season low, people are looking over the Vikings.

743
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:47,360
Speaker 4: Do not look past this offense.

744
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:49,759
Speaker 3: With Sam Donald playing this way, I don't know if

745
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 3: it's sustainable. I'm not going to say it's sustainable, because again,

746
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 3: this is the best we've ever seen him play football,

747
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:59,040
Speaker 3: and also we saw the mid season trough, So I

748
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:00,359
Speaker 3: don't know if he can keep it up.

749
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:01,319
Speaker 4: But I do know this.

750
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 3: When Sam Donald's playing like this and that Vikings defense

751
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 3: is playing the way that they're capable of, this is

752
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 3: one of the best teams in the NFC.

753
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 2: All right, let's go to bow right now, our Eagle resident.

754
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 2: Are you fearing at all the Vikings or are you

755
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 2: just focusing on the Lions?

756
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 11: No?

757
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:23,960
Speaker 9: I don't know. The Lions are really good. Obviously, they

758
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 9: just won three games in eleven days. I'm not the

759
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:29,080
Speaker 9: Vikings are weird. I still don't trust Sam Donald overall,

760
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 9: or their defense has kind of not been as good

761
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:34,759
Speaker 9: as it was to start the year.

762
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 2: All right, Well, how about our Allons insider, Chris, if

763
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:40,480
Speaker 2: you had a matchup of the Vikings instead of the Eagles,

764
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:42,720
Speaker 2: would you be breathing a sigh of relief?

765
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:44,160
Speaker 8: I think so as well.

766
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, I think the if nothing else, what the

767
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 12: Vikings were doing early on in the season doesn't seem

768
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 12: to work when they're in division They have struggled a

769
00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 12: lot of their divisional opponents. And I mean they let

770
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 12: the Packers back in a game where the Packers were

771
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:03,080
Speaker 12: dead as.

772
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:05,319
Speaker 8: A door nail early on in the year too.

773
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:07,920
Speaker 12: I just I think that Sam Darnold's kind of that

774
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:11,239
Speaker 12: touchdown to Jordan Adison was kind of fluky. I'm I

775
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:13,560
Speaker 12: don't I much more fear of the Eagles at this point,

776
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:16,359
Speaker 12: even though knowing that the Eagles sometimes have you know,

777
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 12: muck games like they're currently having right now with the Panthers.

778
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:23,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, I look at I look at the Eagles as

779
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:27,319
Speaker 3: being the best roster in the NFC just currently with

780
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 3: the health they have and the type of players they have.

781
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:32,279
Speaker 3: I look at the Lions as being the best team

782
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 3: in the NFC for the way they've played all year long.

783
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 3: I'll look at the Vikings as the scariest team in

784
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:40,319
Speaker 3: the NFC. That's the way I would That's that's how

785
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:43,359
Speaker 3: I label them best roster, best team, scariest.

786
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:46,359
Speaker 2: All right, Well, y got seven games going on right now.

787
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 2: Not a lot of scoring so far around the NFL.

788
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 2: For all the latest scores, the stats, everything you need,

789
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 2: keep it here. This is Red Zone Radio. First down

790
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 2: and goal from the five yard line.

791
00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:59,359
Speaker 11: Ryfield shot got dropping looking to us right now, back

792
00:39:59,400 --> 00:39:59,919
Speaker 11: to his left.

793
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 2: It was a dark talkball of the one hit the

794
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 2: go line touchdown for Shaan White.

795
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:06,759
Speaker 1: Dark Zone low and White ticks it out right on

796
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:07,239
Speaker 1: the chalk.

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00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:11,400
Speaker 2: That's ninety eight Rock Buccaneers Radio Network, Tampa Bay with

798
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 2: a fourteen to nothing lead over the Raiders nine minutes

799
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:15,200
Speaker 2: to go in the first half.

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Speaker 1: And that game. This is Red Zone Radio.

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Speaker 2: should be. Steelers right now leading the Browns ten to seven.

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Speaker 2: And you know we were talking earlier about Jameis Winston

808
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 2: in his Future of the Browns. By the way, he's

809
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:46,840
Speaker 2: struggling today, just four of eleven passing sixty two yards,

810
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:50,000
Speaker 2: a touchdown and a pick in that game. But Russell

811
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:53,759
Speaker 2: Wilson is also struggling rich He's five of eleven, just

812
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:58,360
Speaker 2: twenty one yards passing in this game so far against

813
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 2: obviously a pretty good Browns defense. Where are you city

814
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 2: right now? With this nine to three Steelers team? Where

815
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:07,440
Speaker 2: are you city right now? With Russell Wilson?

816
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:11,560
Speaker 3: I was talking about the Vikings being the scariest team

817
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:12,760
Speaker 3: in the NFC.

818
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 4: I think I want to give that label.

819
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:18,719
Speaker 3: To the Steelers, because the Steelers, I don't think their

820
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:22,399
Speaker 3: roster really keeps people up at night. Outside of their

821
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 3: defense have very talented defense. They've got a lot of

822
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:28,800
Speaker 3: dogs on that defense, but offensively they're a little sparse

823
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:29,800
Speaker 3: outside of Pickens.

824
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 4: When you look.

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Speaker 3: At the makeup of this team, the way they've won games,

826
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:38,759
Speaker 3: and you say to yourself, yeah, they're winning games, but

827
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:41,080
Speaker 3: I mean, are they dominating any of their opponents?

828
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:42,040
Speaker 4: No, not really.

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Speaker 3: But then you look at their record, and you look

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00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:47,240
Speaker 3: at their coach, and you look at how well Russell

831
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:50,359
Speaker 3: Wilson has played since returning to the field in the

832
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 3: NFL after having some early injury issues with that calf

833
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 3: coming out of training camp, and you say to yourself,

834
00:41:56,680 --> 00:42:00,880
Speaker 3: my goodness, does anybody in the AFC field like they

835
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 3: match up really well against the Steelers? The answer is

836
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:08,000
Speaker 3: absolutely not. That is the scariest team in the AFC.

837
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:10,480
Speaker 3: The Bills don't want to see him in the postseason.

838
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:12,920
Speaker 3: The Chiefs don't want to see him in the postseason.

839
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 3: Trust me when I tell you nobody wants to see

840
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 3: this team in the postseason because they just they provide

841
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:23,319
Speaker 3: such an uncanny matchup. You're not going to see You're

842
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:26,360
Speaker 3: not going to see a team or many teams built

843
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 3: like them throughout the course of the season.

844
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 4: But it's an effective strategy and they've won.

845
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:34,280
Speaker 2: By the way, I'm just watching this Carolina Eagles game again.

846
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:36,399
Speaker 2: The intrigue in this game is that three point one

847
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 2: million dollar bet on the Eagles. The Panthers had the

848
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:43,240
Speaker 2: ball first and goal at the one yard line, actually

849
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:46,840
Speaker 2: second and goal at the one yard line, and Bryce Young,

850
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 2: lined up under center, trips over either the center or guards.

851
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 2: Touchdown Panthers. By the way, Wow, touchdown, Panthers take the lead.

852
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 2: But as a guy that was an interior offensive lineman

853
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:02,359
Speaker 2: yourself playing the center and guard positions, did it ever

854
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:05,840
Speaker 2: happen to you where the quarterback tripped over your foot

855
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 2: after the snap of the ball?

856
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:08,920
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

857
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 3: I mean it's happened at practice, it's happened in games,

858
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 3: and it's your fault.

859
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 4: It's your fault.

860
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:18,120
Speaker 1: When you are your fault, you're looking forward.

861
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 2: You have no idea what the quarterback is doing behind you.

862
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:26,440
Speaker 3: Your your goal is to protect the quarterback at all times. Wow.

863
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:30,400
Speaker 3: So if somehow what you're doing is having a negative

864
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:34,440
Speaker 3: impact on the quarterback, it's your fault. Now, Don't get

865
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 3: me wrong. There have been times where, for example, on

866
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:42,040
Speaker 3: a quarterback center exchange under from under center, where I've

867
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:44,319
Speaker 3: snapped the ball and I know that ball hit the

868
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 3: same exact spot in the old undercarriage as it's hit

869
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 3: one million times before, and the snap is fumbled and

870
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 3: we come to the sideline and I know for sure

871
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 3: that it's the quarterback's fault.

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00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:58,719
Speaker 4: I tell the coaches, Yeah, that one's on me.

873
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:01,400
Speaker 3: I'll get it right the next time, because your job

874
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:03,759
Speaker 3: is to make sure that that guy has nothing to

875
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 3: think about except playing the best football he again.

876
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 4: So yeah, whatever whatever they did, they screwed up.

877
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 2: Rich In the old days, and I mean the old

878
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 2: days when almost ninety nine percent of the quarterback snaps

879
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:20,360
Speaker 2: were directly under center. Until the Cowboys started running a

880
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 2: little bit of a shotgun offense with Roger Staubach, I

881
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:27,920
Speaker 2: rarely saw quarterbacks stumble over the feet of their offensive lineman.

882
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:31,360
Speaker 2: My thought is, you so rarely now have a quarterback

883
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 2: lined up directly under the center that they're just not

884
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:35,719
Speaker 2: used to it.

885
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:40,960
Speaker 3: That's that's actually a very fair observation that you just made.

886
00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:45,160
Speaker 3: When when when college quarterbacks come to the NFL. Even

887
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 3: quarterbacks that have been playing in the NFL for a

888
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:50,240
Speaker 3: long time and they don't have a lot of experience

889
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 3: under center, it can lead to some issues with center

890
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 3: quarterback's change for work.

891
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:56,439
Speaker 4: Yep, yep.

892
00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:01,240
Speaker 3: But at the same token, there is a ruin the NFL.

893
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 3: It ain't his fault, it's ours. So we'll fix what

894
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:06,600
Speaker 3: we're doing to make sure that quarterback's comfortable back.

895
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:08,520
Speaker 2: By the way, I know this is old school reference,

896
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 2: but I can't help myself. Bernie Kozar when he came

897
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:14,120
Speaker 2: out of the University of Miami after with the International Championship,

898
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:17,000
Speaker 2: had a really productive career with the Browns, but he

899
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 2: was so slow afoot that when Bernie Kozar lined up

900
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:25,400
Speaker 2: under center, which was the most time, his right foot

901
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:29,600
Speaker 2: was behind him so he didn't have like his feet

902
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:32,400
Speaker 2: next to each other under the center to get that

903
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:35,440
Speaker 2: extra step out of the center because.

904
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:36,920
Speaker 1: He was so slow.

905
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:39,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, he actually if you look at the old film

906
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:42,719
Speaker 2: of the Browns of Kozar lineup under center, his right

907
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 2: foot was already behind him to try to get that

908
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 2: quick first step out of the center. That's how slow

909
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:52,959
Speaker 2: Bernie Kozar was. Still a great quarterback, but really, really slow.

910
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 2: All right, Dolphins have retaken the lead with a field

911
00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 2: goal over the Jets twelve to ten, but the Jets.

912
00:45:59,120 --> 00:45:59,919
Speaker 1: Are on the move.

913
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:02,400
Speaker 2: Some of the numbers in this game right now, Tua

914
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:05,960
Speaker 2: Tongua Bailola twelve or fourteen hundred and thirty four yards solid,

915
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 2: no touchdowns, no picks. Aaron Rodgers eight of thirteen hundred

916
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:12,719
Speaker 2: and thirty two yards, no touchdowns, no picks. So the

917
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:15,840
Speaker 2: stats of this game are pretty even. One of the

918
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:19,160
Speaker 2: questions moving forward for the Jets, if Aaron Rodgers is

919
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 2: not a Jet, is DeVante Adams a Jet?

920
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:24,239
Speaker 1: In twenty twenty five?

921
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:25,200
Speaker 2: Your thoughts.

922
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:30,600
Speaker 3: Well, listen, I think that strongly depends on who the

923
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:34,279
Speaker 3: Jets bring in a quarterback, because DeVante Adams has a

924
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 3: lot more yesterday is logged in this NFL than he

925
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:40,399
Speaker 3: does tomorrow's. And I think the reason why he has

926
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 3: now jumped ship on the Packers to the Raiders and

927
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:47,160
Speaker 3: shipped on the Raiders to the Jets is to play

928
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 3: with quarterbacks who he deems worthy of his talent and

929
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:55,360
Speaker 3: potentially helping that team to make a deep playoff push

930
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 3: and win a Super Bowl. That's something that he still

931
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:02,120
Speaker 3: hasn't yet done with his career. He's a phenomenal player.

932
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:05,880
Speaker 3: He's a wide receiver, one on virtually every roster outside

933
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:10,000
Speaker 3: of maybe a handful in the NFL. So I think

934
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:13,440
Speaker 3: he's going to try to find either excuse me, either

935
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:15,919
Speaker 3: he is going to wait and see who the Jets

936
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 3: bring in and then plead his case to get out

937
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:21,120
Speaker 3: of New York depending on who they decide on, or

938
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 3: he's going to look for greener pastors elsewhere where. All

939
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:27,880
Speaker 3: those things I just discussed will be fulfilled.

940
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:32,080
Speaker 1: Did you think that the penalty was the right penalty

941
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:34,600
Speaker 1: three game suspension for the big hit last week on

942
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:35,320
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence.

943
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:38,239
Speaker 3: I really don't know what a defender is supposed to

944
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:41,480
Speaker 3: do anymore in this league. I was listening to one

945
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:45,719
Speaker 3: of our buddies, Mark Schlereth, talk about this, and I

946
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:49,839
Speaker 3: thought he made a great point about the running quarterback.

947
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 3: When a quarterback leaves the pocket and there is a

948
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:56,800
Speaker 3: first down marker that a defender is trying to defend,

949
00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:01,239
Speaker 3: and a quarterback can execute a slide so late that

950
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:04,799
Speaker 3: you are already in the process of tackling that you

951
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:08,239
Speaker 3: can no longer change your pad level, because that is

952
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:10,839
Speaker 3: a two hundred and thirty pound man running as fast

953
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:13,320
Speaker 3: as he can at you. So if you're gonna defend

954
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:16,720
Speaker 3: that first down marker and you're not going to get hurt,

955
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:20,880
Speaker 3: you need to throw yourself at that giant bodied quarterback

956
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:21,799
Speaker 3: as hard as you can.

957
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:24,759
Speaker 2: Well, the reason it was three games is we're talking

958
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:27,920
Speaker 2: about a repeat offender. Okay, he had just been fining

959
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:31,560
Speaker 2: the week before for a bad hit, but I get it, but.

960
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:33,840
Speaker 1: Three games seemed steep to me.

961
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:35,800
Speaker 4: Everything is circumstantial.

962
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:39,640
Speaker 3: I don't know what the Shahir hit looked like two

963
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:43,480
Speaker 3: weeks ago that they're saying is repeat defender. So I

964
00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:45,279
Speaker 3: don't want to speak on that, but I saw what

965
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:48,239
Speaker 3: I saw against Trevor Lawrence, and I know this. If

966
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:50,319
Speaker 3: you're going to stop a tight end who's the same

967
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:54,040
Speaker 3: size as Trevor Lawrence, who's running for the first down marker,

968
00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:58,960
Speaker 3: you're gonna do exactly what with Shazir did in that play.

969
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:01,239
Speaker 3: You are going to low over your shoulder and you're

970
00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:03,319
Speaker 3: going to throw yourself at that big body man.

971
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:05,120
Speaker 4: You're going to try to stop him in his tracks.

972
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:08,680
Speaker 3: The reason why it's a penalty is because Trevor executed

973
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:12,799
Speaker 3: a late slide, changed his pad level instantly, and you

974
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:15,120
Speaker 3: already had a defender who was in the act of

975
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:18,840
Speaker 3: making the tackle hit him too high. Now I feel

976
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:21,319
Speaker 3: bad for Trevor Lawrence. I don't want anything bad to

977
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:24,880
Speaker 3: happen to Trevor Lawrence. But Trevor Lawrence was part of

978
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:28,279
Speaker 3: the reason why he was knocked unconscious because he made

979
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:31,399
Speaker 3: a decision to give himself up. And guess what, if

980
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:33,920
Speaker 3: he didn't have a concussion, they still draw the flag.

981
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:35,000
Speaker 4: It's still a first down.

982
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:37,319
Speaker 3: And maybe it's a smart football player if he doesn't

983
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:39,879
Speaker 3: knock himself out of the game and knock himself off

984
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:42,480
Speaker 3: of the roster for several weeks while he recovers from

985
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:46,000
Speaker 3: a concussion. But still to the point of how do

986
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:48,600
Speaker 3: you stop a mobile quarterback? I think they need to

987
00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:51,680
Speaker 3: change the rules because these late slides are getting quarterbacks

988
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:54,640
Speaker 3: hurt and they're making defenders look like villains, and all

989
00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:56,200
Speaker 3: they're trying to do is play football.

990
00:49:56,360 --> 00:50:01,240
Speaker 2: Touchdown pass Sam Darnold to Justin first and the Vikings

991
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:04,839
Speaker 2: take a fourteen to seven lead against the Falcons. Kirk

992
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 2: Cousins after a hot start, not so much anymore. I

993
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 2: actually made a bold prediction on this game. Oh wow,

994
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:15,080
Speaker 2: that Kirk Cousins, who threw four picks last week against

995
00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:20,640
Speaker 2: the Chargers, would duplicate that today. Oh he's got one.

996
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:24,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's tough, and back to back games.

997
00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:26,799
Speaker 2: It has to be a bold prediction, like, not a

998
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:28,680
Speaker 2: predictable one, a bold prediction.

999
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:30,359
Speaker 1: All right, coming up on the other So I will

1000
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:31,279
Speaker 1: continue to update you.

1001
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:35,120
Speaker 2: We're nearing halftime now these seven games around the National

1002
00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:37,440
Speaker 2: Football League, and we're gonna get a preview of the

1003
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:41,839
Speaker 2: game later on between the desperate forty nine Ers and

1004
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:45,840
Speaker 2: the not so good Chicago Bears. This is Red Zone Radio.

1005
00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 13: Young is in the gun Harvard right hip shotgun snap,

1006
00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:52,720
Speaker 13: quick throw near sign Tommy Trimble into the end zone

1007
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:54,760
Speaker 13: front right corner of the end zone.

1008
00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:59,439
Speaker 1: Carolina back on top. The gutsy call pays.

1009
00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:04,360
Speaker 2: Off ninety nine to seven the Fox Panthers radio network,

1010
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:09,080
Speaker 2: and imagine betting three point one million dollars on the Eagles.

1011
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:12,120
Speaker 2: Panthers are leading right now ten to seven men and

1012
00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:14,680
Speaker 2: a half to go in the first half of that game. However,

1013
00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:17,760
Speaker 2: Bryce Young just threw an interception on a deep pass,

1014
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:20,719
Speaker 2: so the Eagles have the ball right now at the

1015
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:24,480
Speaker 2: Carolina thirty two yard line, one twenty six to go

1016
00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:27,719
Speaker 2: in the first half. Of that game. Once again, this

1017
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:31,960
Speaker 2: is Red Zone Radio, Steve Hartmin and Rich Ornberger. We

1018
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 2: are with you covering all these games going on right now.

1019
00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:41,279
Speaker 2: So anyway, Yeah, by the way, Bo Benson has got

1020
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:44,960
Speaker 2: a theory. Body want to share it now about the Eagles.

1021
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:47,080
Speaker 2: He's hanging on right now. We're hoping to hook up

1022
00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:50,920
Speaker 2: here shortly with Jonathan Villma, our buddy to preview the

1023
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:52,480
Speaker 2: upcoming game between.

1024
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:54,759
Speaker 1: The Bears and the forty nine ers.

1025
00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:58,759
Speaker 8: But don't look now, Darnell Mooney huge catch and the

1026
00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 8: Falcons are in the red zone.

1027
00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:01,040
Speaker 3: Wow.

1028
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:03,880
Speaker 8: Sorry, not that we got to call it the red area.

1029
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:05,600
Speaker 1: Now apparently is that true?

1030
00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:08,440
Speaker 8: We do, I've heard some I've heard some area. I

1031
00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:09,800
Speaker 8: think that was in college.

1032
00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:12,720
Speaker 12: I don't know if this is because of the show

1033
00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:16,040
Speaker 12: Red Zone with Scott with Scott Ansen, but like I've

1034
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:19,560
Speaker 12: noticed some ESPN college shows the red area.

1035
00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:22,080
Speaker 2: First of all, it's we now in college have the

1036
00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:24,799
Speaker 2: two minute time out, yes, but it's still the two

1037
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:27,680
Speaker 2: minute warning in the NFL. By the way, the Jets

1038
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:29,919
Speaker 2: just got a field goal to retake the lead.

1039
00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:31,880
Speaker 1: Back and forth with the Dolphins.

1040
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:35,799
Speaker 2: Jet lead now thirteen to twelve inside a minute ago

1041
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:39,799
Speaker 2: in the first half, by the way, finally, mercifully, it's

1042
00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:44,600
Speaker 2: halftime in that Titans Jaguars game. This game will be forgotten.

1043
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:50,480
Speaker 2: What's already forgotten? Titans three Jaguars. Nothing rich at the

1044
00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:51,160
Speaker 2: half at.

1045
00:52:51,239 --> 00:52:56,560
Speaker 3: Two things one, Absolutely nobody cares about the Titans Jaguars games.

1046
00:52:56,600 --> 00:52:56,880
Speaker 4: Too.

1047
00:52:57,680 --> 00:53:00,000
Speaker 3: We could call it red zone, and we will continue

1048
00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:02,920
Speaker 3: because the name of the damn show, Chris.

1049
00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:03,760
Speaker 4: Is red Zone Radio.

1050
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:06,239
Speaker 14: I know, yes, so we will continue calling it the

1051
00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:09,640
Speaker 14: red zone, which the Falcons are currently in, and hopefully

1052
00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:13,600
Speaker 14: try not to squander this great opportunity before the end

1053
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:14,200
Speaker 14: of this half.

1054
00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:17,280
Speaker 3: Twenty seconds left in the half. They trailed the Vikings

1055
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:21,600
Speaker 3: right now fourteen to seven in Minnesota Falcons six and six,

1056
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:24,680
Speaker 3: Vikings ten and two. This would be an enormous win

1057
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:26,000
Speaker 3: for the Falcons on the road.

1058
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:29,160
Speaker 2: All right, Well, let's find out what's gonna happen a

1059
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:31,759
Speaker 2: little bit later on today. Is the forty nine ers

1060
00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:34,240
Speaker 2: desperate for a win to stay alive in the playoff?

1061
00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:37,560
Speaker 2: Chase Well, hosts of the Chicago Bears. Johnny is right now.

1062
00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:41,240
Speaker 2: He was a Super Bowl champion, three time Pro bowler.

1063
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:43,680
Speaker 2: Pride to the huge on of them. Vilma is back

1064
00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:46,440
Speaker 2: with us. By the way, Jonathan, I was at the

1065
00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:50,440
Speaker 2: game where you guys blew out Nebraska in the BCS

1066
00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:54,760
Speaker 2: Championship game at the Rose Bowl. I was at that game.

1067
00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:57,560
Speaker 2: In your opinion, is the two thousand and one U

1068
00:53:57,640 --> 00:54:01,239
Speaker 2: team the greatest collection of college talent of all time?

1069
00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:06,160
Speaker 15: Ye, I don't know if that's even an opinion. That's

1070
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:09,319
Speaker 15: a fact at this point. You look at what we

1071
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:12,560
Speaker 15: did during that season, and then you look at all

1072
00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:15,520
Speaker 15: the players that were drafted from that team and all

1073
00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:19,160
Speaker 15: the players that had for ducting in the NFL. It

1074
00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:22,480
Speaker 15: really is. It's a factual statement that we were the

1075
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:25,840
Speaker 15: best college team ever in the history of college football.

1076
00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:32,680
Speaker 3: Jonathan Vilma joining us Hey, speaking of football and defensive dominance,

1077
00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:34,680
Speaker 3: like we saw at the U during your years there,

1078
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:39,439
Speaker 3: performances around the league are hampered defensively by how much

1079
00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:43,640
Speaker 3: quarterbacks are protected. The hit on Trevor Lawrence, the three

1080
00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:47,160
Speaker 3: game suspension. Before we get into the game you're covering today.

1081
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:50,799
Speaker 3: We were discussing this earlier, Jonathan, and my thought was,

1082
00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:54,239
Speaker 3: what does a defender do if that were a tight

1083
00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:57,840
Speaker 3: end in space, you would you would try to guard

1084
00:54:57,920 --> 00:55:01,520
Speaker 3: the first down marker by throwing yourself at a big body,

1085
00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:04,279
Speaker 3: tight end the same way the defender did in that

1086
00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:08,360
Speaker 3: play against the Jacksonville Jaguars Trevor Lawrence. He changes levels,

1087
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:12,040
Speaker 3: he slides, he gets knocked unconscious, and all of a

1088
00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:16,440
Speaker 3: sudden flags are thrown. I don't know, and maybe you

1089
00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:19,160
Speaker 3: could help us here. I don't know what a defender's

1090
00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:20,840
Speaker 3: supposed to do in that circumstance.

1091
00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:26,600
Speaker 15: It is a very tough situation for the defenders. And

1092
00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:31,239
Speaker 15: you know, we have to go back to the rule

1093
00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:34,480
Speaker 15: of the law and what the intent is the law

1094
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:39,239
Speaker 15: or the rule is to obviously protect the quarterbacks. They

1095
00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:42,360
Speaker 15: don't get to hit a lot in practice, they're arguably

1096
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:46,200
Speaker 15: the most valuable player as far as dollars, as far

1097
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:50,040
Speaker 15: as pooring to the game, etc. So I understand why

1098
00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:54,040
Speaker 15: they're going to be overprotective of the quarterbacks. The problem

1099
00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:57,560
Speaker 15: comes where the quarterbacks start to then take advantage of

1100
00:55:57,560 --> 00:56:00,680
Speaker 15: the situation where they start to slide through eight. They

1101
00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:03,440
Speaker 15: start to kind of jog when they're down by the

1102
00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:06,640
Speaker 15: sideline if they're out of bounds. Out of the bounds,

1103
00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:10,760
Speaker 15: they're kind of treading that fine line, and it's really

1104
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:16,719
Speaker 15: hampering the intent of the rule because to your point,

1105
00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:19,319
Speaker 15: if I'm the linebacker, I'm going to do exactly what

1106
00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:22,319
Speaker 15: he did to Trevor Lawrence. That it's not intentional, It's

1107
00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:26,000
Speaker 15: that he's not a defenseless runner. He's running all of

1108
00:56:26,040 --> 00:56:28,920
Speaker 15: a sudden. You want me to now, within the fraction

1109
00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:31,880
Speaker 15: of a second change my course because he decides to

1110
00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:35,719
Speaker 15: slide late those That's a very very tough situation. So

1111
00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:39,479
Speaker 15: what I'm getting at is the quarterbacks, if they want

1112
00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:42,640
Speaker 15: to be protected, the rules are to protect them, then

1113
00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:45,160
Speaker 15: you have to act accordingly. Right, if you're going to

1114
00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:47,279
Speaker 15: fly slides, if you're not going to slide, don't fly,

1115
00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:50,600
Speaker 15: but don't try to put all of the responsibility on

1116
00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:53,560
Speaker 15: the defender and on the linebacker to recognize in that

1117
00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:56,040
Speaker 15: fraction of a second when you decide that you want

1118
00:56:56,080 --> 00:56:57,719
Speaker 15: to slide, or you decide you want to get out

1119
00:56:57,719 --> 00:57:00,440
Speaker 15: of bounds, like, there has to be some response, aability

1120
00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:06,080
Speaker 15: from the offensive perspective. The quarterbacks specifically that if the

1121
00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:08,600
Speaker 15: rules are to protect you, so if you want to

1122
00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:11,279
Speaker 15: be protected, then you need to act accordingly in the game.

1123
00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:14,359
Speaker 1: Jonathan, When you look at this forty nine Ers team

1124
00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:17,480
Speaker 1: sitting at five and seven, and I know they've had injuries.

1125
00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:21,400
Speaker 1: Every team has injuries, then they've had significant injuries. But

1126
00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:24,120
Speaker 1: when you look at this forty nine ers team, Jonathan,

1127
00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:29,440
Speaker 1: can you see other problems that they really haven't addressed

1128
00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:34,000
Speaker 1: in terms of well, it's not just injuries the reason

1129
00:57:34,040 --> 00:57:35,880
Speaker 1: the forty nine ers have struggled this year.

1130
00:57:37,600 --> 00:57:41,840
Speaker 15: Yeah, I would say I see other problems. Speaking with

1131
00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:46,800
Speaker 15: both Shanahan and Sorenthon, they have addressed it or they

1132
00:57:46,840 --> 00:57:48,800
Speaker 15: are aware of it pat a minimal. If they're aware

1133
00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:53,400
Speaker 15: of it, I'm sure that they're addressing it with their players.

1134
00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:57,360
Speaker 15: So you know, one thing I see is the inconsistency,

1135
00:57:58,240 --> 00:58:01,680
Speaker 15: particularly in the run fit. I'm talking on the defensive

1136
00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:05,240
Speaker 15: side right now. And when I say inconsistency, there are

1137
00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:08,280
Speaker 15: times when it's good and then there are times where

1138
00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:12,200
Speaker 15: you have one person that decides to rush the quarterback

1139
00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:14,920
Speaker 15: instead of you know, stay in their gap, or you

1140
00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:18,480
Speaker 15: have one player that decides they're going to bounce outside

1141
00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:22,120
Speaker 15: as opposed to sitting inside on the run fit. So

1142
00:58:22,520 --> 00:58:25,440
Speaker 15: you see the inconsistency, and I guess the good is

1143
00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:28,680
Speaker 15: that you can correct that it's coachable. The bad is

1144
00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:31,680
Speaker 15: that you're more than halfway through the season and it's

1145
00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:33,960
Speaker 15: still really hasn't gotten corrected. When you want to be

1146
00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:37,680
Speaker 15: peaking right now you're frankly struggling. And then on the

1147
00:58:37,720 --> 00:58:41,560
Speaker 15: offensive side, it's really about the yards after catch. That

1148
00:58:41,720 --> 00:58:46,360
Speaker 15: was what we all knew know about Shanahan's offense Stanford

1149
00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:51,120
Speaker 15: Tisco past three five years. You had guys in space,

1150
00:58:51,960 --> 00:58:56,080
Speaker 15: always making five, six, ten extra yards and that was

1151
00:58:56,120 --> 00:58:58,960
Speaker 15: just kind of their staple. You get Debo, Samuel and space,

1152
00:58:59,320 --> 00:59:01,880
Speaker 15: you had George and now all of a sudden you're

1153
00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:03,919
Speaker 15: not really getting that. The run game is still there.

1154
00:59:03,960 --> 00:59:07,160
Speaker 15: They rush the ball pretty well against the Buffalo Bills.

1155
00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:09,360
Speaker 15: They just aren't making those plays out in face and

1156
00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:14,120
Speaker 15: then accord the turnovers, right, that's a glaring issue for

1157
00:59:14,240 --> 00:59:17,520
Speaker 15: the second half. At two games, three turnovers in each

1158
00:59:17,560 --> 00:59:22,360
Speaker 15: game in the second half. Again, that's correctable. The problem

1159
00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:25,880
Speaker 15: is that you haven't seen that get corrected yet this

1160
00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:29,480
Speaker 15: late in the season. So if they put an emphasis

1161
00:59:29,560 --> 00:59:32,480
Speaker 15: or focus on correcting turnovers, making sure to get the

1162
00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:35,439
Speaker 15: guys out in space, make them plays stop the run,

1163
00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:39,520
Speaker 15: you can easily see San Francisco being a contender to

1164
00:59:39,600 --> 00:59:42,000
Speaker 15: win the division later on down the stretch.

1165
00:59:42,880 --> 00:59:46,000
Speaker 3: Jonathan Vilma joining US Bears forty nine ers. He'll be

1166
00:59:46,040 --> 00:59:48,520
Speaker 3: on the call later on today. So the Bears looking

1167
00:59:48,520 --> 00:59:51,840
Speaker 3: to snap a six game losing streak, first game for

1168
00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:56,280
Speaker 3: interim head coach Thomas Brown after the Eberflus firing. So

1169
00:59:56,480 --> 00:59:59,760
Speaker 3: what should we expect from Brown's new regime, even though

1170
01:00:00,160 --> 01:00:02,120
Speaker 3: it'll just be until the end of the season.

1171
01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:08,600
Speaker 15: Energy, expect energy, expect unity. That was the theme this week.

1172
01:00:08,720 --> 01:00:12,640
Speaker 15: Speaking with Thomas Brown, Eric Washington, some of the players,

1173
01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:17,640
Speaker 15: it was all about clarity, unification, wanting to be one right.

1174
01:00:17,960 --> 01:00:21,760
Speaker 15: A team that is frankly talented. They have some really

1175
01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:25,200
Speaker 15: good players, Teenan Allen, DJ Moore, Caleb Williams at number

1176
01:00:25,240 --> 01:00:28,720
Speaker 15: one pick. Defensively, they have Montest Sweat, they have players

1177
01:00:28,760 --> 01:00:32,120
Speaker 15: that can make plays. So on paper, you look and say,

1178
01:00:32,120 --> 01:00:34,840
Speaker 15: this is a pretty good team. What's going on? And

1179
01:00:35,120 --> 01:00:39,640
Speaker 15: just by the comments made as I was interviewing them

1180
01:00:39,680 --> 01:00:43,160
Speaker 15: earlier this week, it seems like they were on They

1181
01:00:43,160 --> 01:00:45,400
Speaker 15: weren't all on the same page, and it sounds like

1182
01:00:45,440 --> 01:00:48,120
Speaker 15: Thomas Brown wants to get everybody on the same page.

1183
01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:50,720
Speaker 15: You do that, you play with energy, you play with

1184
01:00:50,800 --> 01:00:54,960
Speaker 15: some passion, and you're going to have a surprisingly good

1185
01:00:55,520 --> 01:00:57,560
Speaker 15: Chicago team where you kind of look and say, hey,

1186
01:00:57,840 --> 01:01:00,520
Speaker 15: where these guys come from? Right? So that's where I

1187
01:01:00,560 --> 01:01:03,240
Speaker 15: expect down to stretch from them, and they can be.

1188
01:01:03,520 --> 01:01:06,000
Speaker 15: They were and have been in all of their games

1189
01:01:06,040 --> 01:01:09,360
Speaker 15: that frankly last three games lost by total seven points.

1190
01:01:09,360 --> 01:01:11,960
Speaker 15: So it's not a stretch to say that they can

1191
01:01:12,040 --> 01:01:14,480
Speaker 15: win a lot of their games going down the backstretch.

1192
01:01:15,440 --> 01:01:18,680
Speaker 2: Well, I want to end this, Jonathan by saying, I

1193
01:01:18,800 --> 01:01:21,720
Speaker 2: was at that game. That is the greatest college football

1194
01:01:21,720 --> 01:01:26,400
Speaker 2: team of all time, and I mean it's not even close.

1195
01:01:26,640 --> 01:01:29,080
Speaker 2: I mean it's not even close.

1196
01:01:29,160 --> 01:01:29,640
Speaker 1: Jonathan.

1197
01:01:29,720 --> 01:01:33,040
Speaker 2: We always appreciate the time. Thank you so much. Enjoy

1198
01:01:33,080 --> 01:01:33,760
Speaker 2: the game today.

1199
01:01:34,280 --> 01:01:36,200
Speaker 15: All right, thanks very talking with you.

1200
01:01:36,280 --> 01:01:37,120
Speaker 1: Jonathan Vilma.

1201
01:01:37,280 --> 01:01:40,040
Speaker 2: Just to go back on that team in two thousand

1202
01:01:40,080 --> 01:01:42,680
Speaker 2: and one, with all the great players they had, they

1203
01:01:42,760 --> 01:01:45,080
Speaker 2: also had these guys that were freshmen on the team.

1204
01:01:45,080 --> 01:01:46,280
Speaker 1: He might have heard these guys.

1205
01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:51,320
Speaker 2: Frank Gore was a freshman on that team, Sean Taylor

1206
01:01:51,680 --> 01:01:55,720
Speaker 2: was a freshman on that team, and Vince Wolfork was

1207
01:01:55,720 --> 01:01:57,080
Speaker 2: a freshman on that team.

1208
01:01:57,200 --> 01:02:00,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, Sean Taylor one of the biggest hit

1209
01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:03,840
Speaker 3: safeties in the history of the game. Frank Corer one

1210
01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:06,919
Speaker 3: of the some of the most yards we've ever seen

1211
01:02:06,960 --> 01:02:10,000
Speaker 3: gained on the ground. In the NFL sixteen, thou and

1212
01:02:10,080 --> 01:02:15,320
Speaker 3: then Vince Wilfork, a wrecking ball of a defensive tackle

1213
01:02:15,720 --> 01:02:17,200
Speaker 3: one day will be in the Hall of Fame.

1214
01:02:17,520 --> 01:02:21,120
Speaker 2: And they also had by the way, Ed Reid Andre

1215
01:02:21,400 --> 01:02:23,960
Speaker 2: Johnson both are in the Pro Football Hall of Fame.

1216
01:02:24,120 --> 01:02:27,920
Speaker 2: It's crazy, It is crazy.

1217
01:02:28,560 --> 01:02:32,320
Speaker 3: Was the best defensive back in the history of the league.

1218
01:02:32,520 --> 01:02:35,480
Speaker 1: And then interception stats are runed, and.

1219
01:02:35,440 --> 01:02:38,320
Speaker 3: He also as a special teamer. He was such a

1220
01:02:38,360 --> 01:02:40,600
Speaker 3: problem on the football field. And then and then you

1221
01:02:40,640 --> 01:02:43,960
Speaker 3: look at Andre Johnson on some of the worst Texans

1222
01:02:43,960 --> 01:02:48,760
Speaker 3: teams you've ever seen, he shined like like Randy Moss

1223
01:02:48,800 --> 01:02:52,440
Speaker 3: with Tom Brady. He was an unbelievable receiver.

1224
01:02:52,680 --> 01:02:54,040
Speaker 4: So yeah, you might be right.

1225
01:02:54,120 --> 01:02:56,439
Speaker 3: That might be the most talented college football team there's

1226
01:02:56,440 --> 01:02:57,320
Speaker 3: ever been assembled.

1227
01:02:57,440 --> 01:02:57,760
Speaker 7: Ever.

1228
01:02:58,120 --> 01:03:01,720
Speaker 2: Ever, alright, let's find out what is trending right now,

1229
01:03:01,760 --> 01:03:04,720
Speaker 2: Martin is back. So Martin, how is it to us

1230
01:03:04,720 --> 01:03:08,320
Speaker 2: sit here, watch seven games simultaneously and then supply every

1231
01:03:08,400 --> 01:03:12,240
Speaker 2: single stat from every one of these games. Well, let's

1232
01:03:12,240 --> 01:03:13,080
Speaker 2: see how it goes.

1233
01:03:15,240 --> 01:03:17,840
Speaker 6: Tis Devin three to zhering lead over the Jaguars, just

1234
01:03:17,920 --> 01:03:20,640
Speaker 6: getting started in the second half. There, Mac Jones is

1235
01:03:20,720 --> 01:03:23,600
Speaker 6: twelve for nineteen one hundred twenty yards passing with two interceptions.

1236
01:03:24,200 --> 01:03:25,880
Speaker 6: Like you guys have said, not a lot of offense

1237
01:03:25,880 --> 01:03:28,200
Speaker 6: in this matchup. But thing of note, Will Levi is

1238
01:03:28,240 --> 01:03:30,120
Speaker 6: injured on the last play of the first.

1239
01:03:29,880 --> 01:03:32,040
Speaker 7: Half on a sack by Josh Allen.

1240
01:03:32,080 --> 01:03:35,080
Speaker 6: Obviously Jacksonville has the ball. We'll see what happens when

1241
01:03:35,120 --> 01:03:37,000
Speaker 6: Tennessee comes out there. Maybe we'll see Mason.

1242
01:03:36,840 --> 01:03:38,920
Speaker 7: Rudolph at the half.

1243
01:03:39,160 --> 01:03:42,280
Speaker 6: Dolphins with a fifteenth to thirteen lead over the Jets.

1244
01:03:42,320 --> 01:03:45,320
Speaker 6: Couple field goals for Andrews Carlson. Jason Sanders also has

1245
01:03:45,320 --> 01:03:47,960
Speaker 6: a field goal divine eight. Chant with a rushing touchdown

1246
01:03:48,080 --> 01:03:50,560
Speaker 6: which they actually missed the extra point after that one.

1247
01:03:50,840 --> 01:03:54,760
Speaker 6: Justin Jefferson has his first down, first touchdown and over

1248
01:03:54,840 --> 01:03:57,240
Speaker 6: two months he had a twelve yard touchdown catches. The

1249
01:03:57,320 --> 01:04:00,760
Speaker 6: Vikings lead the Falcons fourteen to ten the half. Kirk

1250
01:04:00,800 --> 01:04:03,320
Speaker 6: Cousins swell for nineteen with an interception that makes his

1251
01:04:03,440 --> 01:04:07,880
Speaker 6: interception to touchdown ratio I'm sorry, touchdown interception ratio zero

1252
01:04:07,960 --> 01:04:11,320
Speaker 6: to seven in his last four games, including today. Tyler

1253
01:04:11,440 --> 01:04:13,680
Speaker 6: or Jeer with a rushing touchdown. Yeah, it might be

1254
01:04:13,760 --> 01:04:15,440
Speaker 6: time to see what the left.

1255
01:04:15,200 --> 01:04:16,080
Speaker 7: He's got on the bench.

1256
01:04:16,720 --> 01:04:19,360
Speaker 6: Go to the bullpen halftime between the Saints and the

1257
01:04:19,400 --> 01:04:21,880
Speaker 6: Giants the New Orleans with a seven and seven to

1258
01:04:21,920 --> 01:04:26,240
Speaker 6: three lead after a Kendre Miller rushing touchdown Alvin Kamara

1259
01:04:26,240 --> 01:04:28,360
Speaker 6: eleven carries twenty seven yards there.

1260
01:04:28,240 --> 01:04:28,880
Speaker 7: At the half.

1261
01:04:28,960 --> 01:04:31,680
Speaker 6: The Panthers had the lead for most of the second

1262
01:04:31,760 --> 01:04:34,600
Speaker 6: quarter until brush On through an interception. He also has

1263
01:04:34,640 --> 01:04:37,200
Speaker 6: a touchdown pass on today. Brush On to an interception

1264
01:04:37,280 --> 01:04:41,000
Speaker 6: to CJ. Gardner Johnson and then Eagles were able to

1265
01:04:41,000 --> 01:04:44,160
Speaker 6: score Devonte Smith touchdown nearing the end of the first

1266
01:04:44,200 --> 01:04:47,240
Speaker 6: half to take the lead going into the locker rooms

1267
01:04:47,240 --> 01:04:48,160
Speaker 6: fourteen to ten.

1268
01:04:48,760 --> 01:04:50,560
Speaker 7: Just went half at the Browns and.

1269
01:04:50,560 --> 01:04:54,000
Speaker 6: The Steelers Pittsburgh with a thirteen to seven lead, Jamis

1270
01:04:54,040 --> 01:04:57,160
Speaker 6: Winston with a touchdown and Nazi Harris with a touchdown

1271
01:04:57,240 --> 01:04:59,560
Speaker 6: rush Jerry Judy one catch so far with that thirty

1272
01:04:59,600 --> 01:05:02,120
Speaker 6: five yard or for a touchdown. Man at the half

1273
01:05:02,480 --> 01:05:06,160
Speaker 6: between the bunk there you go, see I almost at it,

1274
01:05:06,320 --> 01:05:08,479
Speaker 6: almost at it. I was almost there.

1275
01:05:08,560 --> 01:05:10,120
Speaker 1: You were rolling along.

1276
01:05:11,280 --> 01:05:14,680
Speaker 7: I feel like the Raiders right there. I got the ball.

1277
01:05:14,880 --> 01:05:17,080
Speaker 6: I'm Aidan O'Connell and the Senators hit me in the

1278
01:05:17,080 --> 01:05:20,000
Speaker 6: face with the I wasn't ready for the snap. At

1279
01:05:20,000 --> 01:05:22,600
Speaker 6: the half, the Buccaneers with a fourteen to ten lead

1280
01:05:23,120 --> 01:05:27,400
Speaker 6: over the aforementioned Raiders. Baker Mayfield, with two touchdown passes,

1281
01:05:27,760 --> 01:05:31,960
Speaker 6: had Raiders unfortun interception right at the right under the

1282
01:05:32,000 --> 01:05:32,240
Speaker 6: two men.

1283
01:05:32,320 --> 01:05:34,000
Speaker 7: The warning with Jack Jones ended.

1284
01:05:33,840 --> 01:05:37,280
Speaker 6: Up getting called for pass interference, so Tampa kept the ball,

1285
01:05:37,560 --> 01:05:39,560
Speaker 6: did not score, but fourteen to ten.

1286
01:05:40,040 --> 01:05:42,240
Speaker 2: Back to you guys, all right, Martin, by the way,

1287
01:05:42,440 --> 01:05:44,880
Speaker 2: not happy with me and the heisman. I'm not going

1288
01:05:44,960 --> 01:05:47,200
Speaker 2: to get into any in depth explanation.

1289
01:05:48,200 --> 01:05:49,400
Speaker 7: All I'll say, Rich is.

1290
01:05:49,360 --> 01:05:53,040
Speaker 6: That people have there's only a limited amount of people

1291
01:05:53,000 --> 01:05:55,960
Speaker 6: who have that vote. When with that vote becomes power,

1292
01:05:56,320 --> 01:06:00,360
Speaker 6: and with power comes responsibility. And I feel as from

1293
01:06:00,400 --> 01:06:02,920
Speaker 6: what I have heard around the office to little birdies

1294
01:06:02,920 --> 01:06:06,040
Speaker 6: wist Briton scuttle butt going around that Steve did not

1295
01:06:06,200 --> 01:06:09,400
Speaker 6: necessarily execute his responsibility to the highest matter.

1296
01:06:09,680 --> 01:06:12,880
Speaker 2: That's my problem, that's my bif. All right, Well, that's

1297
01:06:13,000 --> 01:06:16,120
Speaker 2: very good, and Martin has strong opinions. I respect that.

1298
01:06:16,360 --> 01:06:17,800
Speaker 2: I respect that a lot.

1299
01:06:18,560 --> 01:06:21,880
Speaker 1: Once again, this is the Red Zone Radio, Steve Hartin

1300
01:06:21,920 --> 01:06:23,200
Speaker 1: and Rich Ornberger with you.

1301
01:06:23,400 --> 01:06:25,880
Speaker 2: All right, with the halftimes around the league, I wanted

1302
01:06:25,920 --> 01:06:30,840
Speaker 2: to look ahead to this matchup again. Moncey yesterday announcing

1303
01:06:30,920 --> 01:06:34,160
Speaker 2: She'll be at this game in Glendel, Arizona, as the

1304
01:06:34,200 --> 01:06:37,480
Speaker 2: Cardinals host the Seahawks. Big battle for first place right

1305
01:06:37,520 --> 01:06:41,000
Speaker 2: now in the NFC West. So with the forty nine

1306
01:06:41,080 --> 01:06:44,360
Speaker 2: ers struggling, and it's amazing with all the injuries they've

1307
01:06:44,400 --> 01:06:48,160
Speaker 2: had on their offense, how ordinary brock Perty suddenly looks.

1308
01:06:48,520 --> 01:06:50,640
Speaker 2: Rams obviously are still in it, but they've got a

1309
01:06:50,680 --> 01:06:54,280
Speaker 2: tough task today as they're hosting the red hot Buffalo Bills.

1310
01:06:54,600 --> 01:06:57,080
Speaker 2: So now you got to look at Cardinals Seahawks. I

1311
01:06:57,120 --> 01:07:00,360
Speaker 2: think most people thought going into the season these two

1312
01:07:00,400 --> 01:07:03,440
Speaker 2: teams would be looking up at the Rams and the

1313
01:07:03,440 --> 01:07:06,480
Speaker 2: forty nine Ers, it could be the exact opposite what

1314
01:07:06,560 --> 01:07:09,560
Speaker 2: your gut feeling, Cardinals. Let me ask you this, the

1315
01:07:09,600 --> 01:07:12,800
Speaker 2: way the Cardinals lost that game last week to the Vikings,

1316
01:07:12,800 --> 01:07:15,520
Speaker 2: where they seemingly had the game in hand and it

1317
01:07:15,640 --> 01:07:18,520
Speaker 2: got away from them. I know you always say turn

1318
01:07:18,680 --> 01:07:21,040
Speaker 2: the page, but when you're at this point of the

1319
01:07:21,080 --> 01:07:24,880
Speaker 2: season where every game is so important, how difficult is

1320
01:07:24,920 --> 01:07:27,720
Speaker 2: it for the Cardinals to turn the page on that

1321
01:07:27,800 --> 01:07:29,240
Speaker 2: kind of loss to the Vikings.

1322
01:07:29,280 --> 01:07:33,080
Speaker 3: Oh, it's enormous, it's enormous. Look, here's the biggest thing

1323
01:07:33,120 --> 01:07:36,600
Speaker 3: the Cardinals have to fix is their red zone struggles.

1324
01:07:36,800 --> 01:07:42,280
Speaker 3: They have been magnified losing these past two weeks. Look,

1325
01:07:42,280 --> 01:07:47,840
Speaker 3: they're sixteen point seven percent from Sunday and their thirty

1326
01:07:47,920 --> 01:07:51,880
Speaker 3: eight point five clip over the past three games is

1327
01:07:51,960 --> 01:07:55,360
Speaker 3: the canary in the coal mine. When you are only

1328
01:07:55,440 --> 01:07:58,560
Speaker 3: scoring on less than twenty percent of your red zone

1329
01:07:58,640 --> 01:08:01,959
Speaker 3: visits or over the course of a three game span

1330
01:08:02,080 --> 01:08:06,600
Speaker 3: less than forty percent, you are squandering opportunity after opportunity.

1331
01:08:06,760 --> 01:08:11,240
Speaker 3: So that's the biggest problem for Arizona is getting into

1332
01:08:11,280 --> 01:08:13,880
Speaker 3: the red zone and finishing in the end zone. It

1333
01:08:13,960 --> 01:08:17,240
Speaker 3: seems so simple, but the problem is when you get

1334
01:08:17,280 --> 01:08:20,000
Speaker 3: down to the red zone, especially where you're down the

1335
01:08:20,000 --> 01:08:23,400
Speaker 3: fifteen yard line, in all of a sudden, the defense

1336
01:08:23,439 --> 01:08:26,599
Speaker 3: only has a twenty yards or less of field to defend,

1337
01:08:27,080 --> 01:08:32,280
Speaker 3: so the passing lanes get tighter, the room that Kyler

1338
01:08:32,400 --> 01:08:36,640
Speaker 3: Murray has to run and improvise gets tighter. Also, the

1339
01:08:36,800 --> 01:08:40,000
Speaker 3: risk of being sacked in those situations, because Kyler Murray

1340
01:08:40,040 --> 01:08:41,680
Speaker 3: is not afraid to lose a lot of yard at

1341
01:08:41,720 --> 01:08:44,680
Speaker 3: you when he's scrambling around in the backfield. But if

1342
01:08:45,400 --> 01:08:47,479
Speaker 3: you risk taking a sack in the red zone, you

1343
01:08:47,479 --> 01:08:50,240
Speaker 3: could knock your team out of field goal position potentially,

1344
01:08:50,560 --> 01:08:52,920
Speaker 3: so all of a sudden, it gets way riskier to

1345
01:08:53,000 --> 01:08:56,040
Speaker 3: run the sort of backyard offense that Kyler can can

1346
01:08:56,080 --> 01:08:59,400
Speaker 3: get away with in between the twenties and so the

1347
01:08:59,439 --> 01:09:02,800
Speaker 3: Arizona Ronalds they have to fix this red zone problem.

1348
01:09:03,920 --> 01:09:05,719
Speaker 1: It's been an interesting year for the Seahawks.

1349
01:09:05,760 --> 01:09:09,679
Speaker 2: Remember they started three to zero, then they lose five

1350
01:09:09,720 --> 01:09:12,240
Speaker 2: out of six, and now they're back on a three

1351
01:09:12,360 --> 01:09:15,400
Speaker 2: game winning streak. Gino Smith has thrown a ton of

1352
01:09:15,439 --> 01:09:20,519
Speaker 2: passes this year, but thirteen touchdowns twelve interceptions. That is

1353
01:09:20,560 --> 01:09:23,639
Speaker 2: not an acceptable ratio. And I don't know why they're

1354
01:09:23,640 --> 01:09:25,759
Speaker 2: not getting more out of their running game with Kenneth

1355
01:09:25,800 --> 01:09:29,879
Speaker 2: Walker and Zach Sharbonnay. Those two guys are quality backs

1356
01:09:30,200 --> 01:09:32,880
Speaker 2: and yet neither one of them is even averaging four

1357
01:09:33,160 --> 01:09:34,520
Speaker 2: yards a carry.

1358
01:09:35,520 --> 01:09:36,840
Speaker 1: But here they're sitting in the cap.

1359
01:09:36,920 --> 01:09:39,639
Speaker 2: I mean, if they win today, Rich, they pretty much

1360
01:09:39,760 --> 01:09:43,320
Speaker 2: are in the driver's seed to win the NFC West

1361
01:09:43,520 --> 01:09:44,719
Speaker 2: with a rookie head coach.

1362
01:09:44,800 --> 01:09:47,640
Speaker 1: So where are you right now with the Seahawks team?

1363
01:09:48,000 --> 01:09:53,519
Speaker 4: The Seahawks are difficult to I look, here's the thing.

1364
01:09:54,080 --> 01:09:57,280
Speaker 3: I will believe it when I see it, right, you know,

1365
01:09:58,080 --> 01:10:01,800
Speaker 3: I think Mike McDonald is a capable defensive coordinator and

1366
01:10:01,840 --> 01:10:05,920
Speaker 3: a capable head coach. So far, this defense is playing

1367
01:10:05,960 --> 01:10:12,920
Speaker 3: inspired that win over Arizona, or excuse me if they

1368
01:10:13,080 --> 01:10:16,800
Speaker 3: if they get a victory here, right, You're going to

1369
01:10:16,920 --> 01:10:21,360
Speaker 3: see probably a lot of the Punnits shift their view

1370
01:10:21,880 --> 01:10:24,639
Speaker 3: from the Cardinals to the Seahawks all of a sudden.

1371
01:10:25,240 --> 01:10:27,799
Speaker 3: But I'm waiting to see the result of this game first.

1372
01:10:28,080 --> 01:10:30,640
Speaker 3: It does feel a little bit like we've grabbed the

1373
01:10:30,680 --> 01:10:34,000
Speaker 3: tail of a dragon and we're taking flight with the Seahawks.

1374
01:10:34,240 --> 01:10:35,520
Speaker 4: And then as soon.

1375
01:10:35,520 --> 01:10:38,479
Speaker 3: As they get to a game where they must win it,

1376
01:10:38,760 --> 01:10:41,200
Speaker 3: they do something crazy and lose it. Gino Smith has

1377
01:10:41,240 --> 01:10:44,320
Speaker 3: a bad game, the offense turns the ball over. I

1378
01:10:44,720 --> 01:10:46,719
Speaker 3: will believe it when I see it with the Seahawks.

1379
01:10:46,800 --> 01:10:47,880
Speaker 1: Well, and think about this.

1380
01:10:47,960 --> 01:10:50,479
Speaker 2: If you look at the Seahawks' schedule after this game,

1381
01:10:50,520 --> 01:10:53,760
Speaker 2: they have back to back home games against the Packers

1382
01:10:53,840 --> 01:10:54,760
Speaker 2: and the Vikings.

1383
01:10:55,760 --> 01:10:58,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, back to back home games.

1384
01:10:58,040 --> 01:11:01,320
Speaker 2: Against the Packers and the Vikings not and then they

1385
01:11:01,360 --> 01:11:05,520
Speaker 2: go to Chicago and then the last game could decide

1386
01:11:05,560 --> 01:11:08,679
Speaker 2: the NFC West, a road game against the Rams.

1387
01:11:09,120 --> 01:11:09,599
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1388
01:11:09,720 --> 01:11:10,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I'm with you.

1389
01:11:10,680 --> 01:11:14,439
Speaker 2: I I you know, the Seahawks there's nothing that just

1390
01:11:14,600 --> 01:11:17,960
Speaker 2: wows you about this team. It's almost like a matter

1391
01:11:17,960 --> 01:11:20,800
Speaker 2: of attrition right the NFC West, with the forty nine

1392
01:11:20,880 --> 01:11:23,680
Speaker 2: Ers struggles this year, I will say consistency so with

1393
01:11:23,720 --> 01:11:26,479
Speaker 2: the Rams and the Cardinals, to me, is really the

1394
01:11:26,560 --> 01:11:29,040
Speaker 2: main reason why the Seahawks are sitting where they're sitting.

1395
01:11:29,320 --> 01:11:32,519
Speaker 3: The one thing I will say is this Jackson Smith

1396
01:11:32,560 --> 01:11:38,000
Speaker 3: and Jigba has been phenomenal. So over the past three

1397
01:11:39,000 --> 01:11:42,320
Speaker 3: or four games, I'm trying to think he's he's He's

1398
01:11:42,360 --> 01:11:47,080
Speaker 3: been on this tear his past four games. He saw

1399
01:11:47,720 --> 01:11:51,280
Speaker 3: ten plus targets in two of them. He is the

1400
01:11:51,400 --> 01:11:55,880
Speaker 3: go to guy now in Seattle. He has become exactly

1401
01:11:55,880 --> 01:12:00,120
Speaker 3: what they hoped him to become. Playing opposite of DK Metcalf.

1402
01:12:00,400 --> 01:12:03,919
Speaker 3: He has been this this tremendous addition to this offense.

1403
01:12:04,120 --> 01:12:06,479
Speaker 3: A little bit of a slow start to his NFL career,

1404
01:12:06,720 --> 01:12:09,559
Speaker 3: but he's off to the races. But again, since all

1405
01:12:09,640 --> 01:12:14,120
Speaker 3: of the press has really been around the Rams and

1406
01:12:14,600 --> 01:12:17,639
Speaker 3: you know their injury issues, and the and the forty

1407
01:12:17,720 --> 01:12:21,160
Speaker 3: nine Ers and their injury issues and Kyler Murray's back,

1408
01:12:21,760 --> 01:12:24,280
Speaker 3: Gino Smith and the Seahawks and their new head coach,

1409
01:12:24,560 --> 01:12:27,680
Speaker 3: they've kind of been an afterthought. If they win this game, though,

1410
01:12:27,720 --> 01:12:29,439
Speaker 3: they're going to force people to pay attention.

1411
01:12:29,560 --> 01:12:31,599
Speaker 2: Absolutely, and of course it would be their second one

1412
01:12:31,600 --> 01:12:35,000
Speaker 2: over Arizona, so you know, potential tie down the road.

1413
01:12:35,040 --> 01:12:37,400
Speaker 1: They would have that tie breaker against Arizona.

1414
01:12:37,560 --> 01:12:40,559
Speaker 2: So big game obviously for both those teams in the

1415
01:12:40,680 --> 01:12:43,840
Speaker 2: NFC West. All right, coming out of halftimes, now seven

1416
01:12:43,880 --> 01:12:47,080
Speaker 2: games around the NFL for the stretch. Run on these

1417
01:12:47,120 --> 01:12:50,760
Speaker 2: games and more on the game still on today's schedule.

1418
01:12:51,080 --> 01:12:53,200
Speaker 1: Keep it right here. This is Red Zone Radio.

1419
01:12:53,560 --> 01:12:56,719
Speaker 13: Youngest in the gun Harvard right hip shotgun snap, quick

1420
01:12:56,760 --> 01:13:00,559
Speaker 13: throw near side Tommy Trimble into the end zone front

1421
01:13:00,640 --> 01:13:01,960
Speaker 13: right corner of the episode.

1422
01:13:02,439 --> 01:13:03,040
Speaker 4: Carolina.

1423
01:13:03,240 --> 01:13:04,639
Speaker 1: It is third down on the yard.

1424
01:13:05,880 --> 01:13:10,720
Speaker 2: Hurts now he's touch push now he's under center. This

1425
01:13:10,920 --> 01:13:16,120
Speaker 2: time he pushes, he shoves, and he's having touchdown. Finally,

1426
01:13:16,600 --> 01:13:21,720
Speaker 2: he said, that's ninety four WIP Eagles Radio Network. Eagles

1427
01:13:21,840 --> 01:13:25,799
Speaker 2: in a battle against the Carolina Panthers lead of fourteen

1428
01:13:25,840 --> 01:13:29,320
Speaker 2: to ten inside eleven minutes ago in the third quarter.

1429
01:13:29,439 --> 01:13:32,360
Speaker 2: This is Red Zone Radio. Steve Harmer, Rich Ornberger with you.

1430
01:13:32,439 --> 01:13:35,640
Speaker 2: We are live from the tay Iraq dot Com studios.

1431
01:13:35,720 --> 01:13:39,599
Speaker 2: Rich I have not asked you about your Nitney Lions. Yeah,

1432
01:13:39,680 --> 01:13:43,280
Speaker 2: by the way, as dreadful as that SEC championship game

1433
01:13:43,479 --> 01:13:52,519
Speaker 2: was between Georgia and Texas Texas, that's how good the

1434
01:13:52,520 --> 01:13:55,679
Speaker 2: Big Ten Championship game was between Oregon and Penn State.

1435
01:13:55,760 --> 01:13:56,479
Speaker 1: Quite a battle.

1436
01:13:57,280 --> 01:13:59,800
Speaker 2: So your Nitney Lions end up as a sixth seed,

1437
01:14:00,000 --> 01:14:01,679
Speaker 2: haigan on the eleven seed, SMU.

1438
01:14:01,800 --> 01:14:03,520
Speaker 1: Congratulations to the Mustangs.

1439
01:14:03,560 --> 01:14:06,120
Speaker 2: They deserved it. They should not have been Alabama. It

1440
01:14:06,200 --> 01:14:08,960
Speaker 2: wasn't it's SMU. And then think about this. The winner

1441
01:14:08,960 --> 01:14:12,360
Speaker 2: of that game gets a very surprising three seed that

1442
01:14:12,360 --> 01:14:15,679
Speaker 2: would be Boise State. Now, remember Boise State only lost

1443
01:14:15,680 --> 01:14:17,920
Speaker 2: one game all year and that was on the road

1444
01:14:17,960 --> 01:14:20,559
Speaker 2: by three points to the number one team in the country, Oregon.

1445
01:14:20,600 --> 01:14:25,000
Speaker 2: But there's a potential path there for your Nitney Lions.

1446
01:14:25,280 --> 01:14:26,839
Speaker 3: I like it, SMU.

1447
01:14:27,040 --> 01:14:31,120
Speaker 2: Boise State and maybe I don't know, semi finals showdown

1448
01:14:31,160 --> 01:14:32,599
Speaker 2: with Georgia down the road.

1449
01:14:32,800 --> 01:14:36,760
Speaker 3: That does feel like the path that you would hope for.

1450
01:14:37,760 --> 01:14:41,800
Speaker 3: And here's the thing that I will say, the moxie

1451
01:14:42,160 --> 01:14:46,679
Speaker 3: and the heart that the Penn State Nitney Lions played

1452
01:14:46,680 --> 01:14:53,559
Speaker 3: with cannot be underrated. I think Oregon they are the

1453
01:14:53,600 --> 01:14:57,240
Speaker 3: most complete team in the country. I think they're the

1454
01:14:57,280 --> 01:14:59,720
Speaker 3: best team in the country. And I know I'm not

1455
01:14:59,760 --> 01:15:02,799
Speaker 3: saying much there because there is a chorus of people

1456
01:15:02,840 --> 01:15:05,800
Speaker 3: agreeing with me. But what I will say is Penn

1457
01:15:05,880 --> 01:15:09,519
Speaker 3: State is still somehow underrated. I think because they didn't

1458
01:15:09,560 --> 01:15:12,080
Speaker 3: punch it in a couple of times against Ohio State.

1459
01:15:12,560 --> 01:15:16,240
Speaker 3: There's this thought process that you know that James Franklin

1460
01:15:16,560 --> 01:15:21,040
Speaker 3: can't win these big games because he hasn't. I'm not

1461
01:15:21,120 --> 01:15:23,519
Speaker 3: as big of a believer in that type of stuff.

1462
01:15:23,960 --> 01:15:28,280
Speaker 3: I think that football is awfully circumstantial. I think that

1463
01:15:28,400 --> 01:15:31,519
Speaker 3: when you bail on a coach who's successful but hasn't

1464
01:15:31,560 --> 01:15:33,799
Speaker 3: won the big one yet, you make a huge mistake.

1465
01:15:34,160 --> 01:15:37,080
Speaker 3: I felt that way when the Philadelphia Eagles fired Andy Reid.

1466
01:15:37,400 --> 01:15:40,200
Speaker 3: I felt that way when the San Diego Chargers, the

1467
01:15:40,200 --> 01:15:44,479
Speaker 3: then San Diego Chargers fired Marty Schottenheimer. And I feel

1468
01:15:44,479 --> 01:15:47,360
Speaker 3: this way about James Franklin. James Franklin has kept the

1469
01:15:47,439 --> 01:15:51,000
Speaker 3: Nitney Lions in the conversation nationally since he showed up

1470
01:15:51,040 --> 01:15:54,679
Speaker 3: on campus, by the way, just a few years after

1471
01:15:55,080 --> 01:15:59,000
Speaker 3: a scandal that rocked college football and the world. So

1472
01:15:59,840 --> 01:16:02,719
Speaker 3: I think what James Franklin has done for Penn State

1473
01:16:02,800 --> 01:16:05,280
Speaker 3: is more than people are willing to admit. And I

1474
01:16:05,280 --> 01:16:08,080
Speaker 3: also think the job he has done outside of maybe

1475
01:16:08,120 --> 01:16:12,160
Speaker 3: some of these big games, has been incredible. I'm very

1476
01:16:12,160 --> 01:16:15,880
Speaker 3: hopeful that this program gets to a national championship and

1477
01:16:15,920 --> 01:16:18,400
Speaker 3: at very least has a bite at that apple, and

1478
01:16:18,439 --> 01:16:21,080
Speaker 3: we'll see what it looks like potentially the second time

1479
01:16:21,439 --> 01:16:24,519
Speaker 3: they play Oregon here in the postseason college football.

1480
01:16:24,560 --> 01:16:28,559
Speaker 2: All right, the Jets just got a touchdown Aaron Rodgers

1481
01:16:28,600 --> 01:16:33,040
Speaker 2: to Devonte Adams, and the Jets have now taken a

1482
01:16:33,640 --> 01:16:39,160
Speaker 2: nineteen to fifteen lead over the Dolphins. As you know,

1483
01:16:39,320 --> 01:16:41,920
Speaker 2: my one bold prediction for the NFL this year was

1484
01:16:41,960 --> 01:16:45,280
Speaker 2: the Broncos and bow Knicks getting into the playoffs. There

1485
01:16:45,280 --> 01:16:47,600
Speaker 2: in the driver's seat right now. Still some games to

1486
01:16:47,720 --> 01:16:50,840
Speaker 2: be played, but you look at these quarterbacks with all

1487
01:16:50,920 --> 01:16:53,080
Speaker 2: this experience at the college level. I want to ask

1488
01:16:53,080 --> 01:16:55,000
Speaker 2: you about Dylan Gabriel, Hey got really good?

1489
01:16:55,040 --> 01:16:57,920
Speaker 3: Well, what since you mentioned the score of that game,

1490
01:16:57,960 --> 01:16:59,720
Speaker 3: do you want to know what my bold prediction was?

1491
01:17:00,479 --> 01:17:03,280
Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers winning the MVP. Whoa, whoa, whoa.

1492
01:17:03,479 --> 01:17:06,920
Speaker 2: Okay, well, I don't think that's gonna happen, but you

1493
01:17:06,960 --> 01:17:11,880
Speaker 2: know there's always miracles. Dylan Gabriel, go ahead, six years

1494
01:17:11,920 --> 01:17:15,479
Speaker 2: in college, three at Central Florida, two at Oklahoma, and

1495
01:17:15,520 --> 01:17:17,360
Speaker 2: now this one year at Oregon. He's going to be

1496
01:17:17,360 --> 01:17:20,519
Speaker 2: twenty four years old later this month. He's only five

1497
01:17:20,600 --> 01:17:21,280
Speaker 2: foot eleven.

1498
01:17:21,800 --> 01:17:22,479
Speaker 1: This guy has.

1499
01:17:22,400 --> 01:17:26,759
Speaker 2: Thrown for over eighteen thousand yards in his college career,

1500
01:17:27,040 --> 01:17:31,280
Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty three touchdowns sides wise. Obviously, it's

1501
01:17:31,320 --> 01:17:34,160
Speaker 2: going to hurt him in terms of, you know, where

1502
01:17:34,200 --> 01:17:36,360
Speaker 2: he goes in this draft. But do you look at

1503
01:17:36,360 --> 01:17:39,599
Speaker 2: this guy because essentially he's left handed, He's not all

1504
01:17:39,640 --> 01:17:42,200
Speaker 2: that different size wise than to a tongue of Biloa.

1505
01:17:42,720 --> 01:17:45,800
Speaker 2: But when you talk about a guy like Dylan Gabra

1506
01:17:45,960 --> 01:17:48,599
Speaker 2: with all that kind of experience at the collegiate level,

1507
01:17:49,160 --> 01:17:51,519
Speaker 2: is that a plus or minus going into the NFL?

1508
01:17:51,640 --> 01:17:56,120
Speaker 3: Oh, it can't be underrated. Is enormous plus. And here's

1509
01:17:56,160 --> 01:17:59,240
Speaker 3: the thing that a lot of people slept on. So

1510
01:17:59,720 --> 01:18:05,320
Speaker 3: Ja Daniels coming out of out of LSU. You forget

1511
01:18:05,360 --> 01:18:08,720
Speaker 3: that A that wasn't his first year and b that

1512
01:18:08,840 --> 01:18:11,479
Speaker 3: wasn't his only two years in college football.

1513
01:18:11,479 --> 01:18:13,280
Speaker 4: You also played at ASU.

1514
01:18:13,000 --> 01:18:14,840
Speaker 1: Three years at ASU, two at LSU.

1515
01:18:15,120 --> 01:18:18,360
Speaker 3: So he was an experienced college football player. And when

1516
01:18:18,400 --> 01:18:21,400
Speaker 3: I said that he is the most NFL ready product

1517
01:18:22,000 --> 01:18:25,240
Speaker 3: in college football coming out, people were like, well, yeah,

1518
01:18:25,280 --> 01:18:27,960
Speaker 3: you had one good year. So what I'm like, No, No,

1519
01:18:28,000 --> 01:18:30,800
Speaker 3: you're looking at this the wrong way. It's how much

1520
01:18:30,840 --> 01:18:33,920
Speaker 3: have you seen at that level? Dylan Gabriel is the

1521
01:18:34,000 --> 01:18:36,960
Speaker 3: most NFL ready quarterback that will be coming out of

1522
01:18:37,000 --> 01:18:38,479
Speaker 3: college football this upcome Wow.

1523
01:18:38,560 --> 01:18:41,640
Speaker 2: So even though shud or standers cam Ward projected to

1524
01:18:41,640 --> 01:18:45,280
Speaker 2: go higher, you would say based on this experience he's

1525
01:18:45,280 --> 01:18:48,519
Speaker 2: had at three different schools, especially leading Oregon to a

1526
01:18:48,600 --> 01:18:52,160
Speaker 2: number one ranking this year, he has he's the most

1527
01:18:52,240 --> 01:18:53,759
Speaker 2: ready right now for the NFL.

1528
01:18:53,840 --> 01:18:57,839
Speaker 3: Right now, I think he'll have the earliest impact depending

1529
01:18:57,880 --> 01:19:02,160
Speaker 3: on the team that he has drafted, and because he'll

1530
01:19:02,240 --> 01:19:05,840
Speaker 3: probably be taking lower down in the first or higher

1531
01:19:05,920 --> 01:19:08,800
Speaker 3: up in the second round of the draft, he's got

1532
01:19:08,840 --> 01:19:12,800
Speaker 3: a better opportunity to get drafted by a better team,

1533
01:19:13,200 --> 01:19:15,759
Speaker 3: and depending on the circumstance when he sees the field,

1534
01:19:16,080 --> 01:19:19,759
Speaker 3: he'll be playing with better talent around him. A huge

1535
01:19:20,880 --> 01:19:25,040
Speaker 3: problem for highly talented quarterbacks coming into the league is

1536
01:19:25,320 --> 01:19:28,640
Speaker 3: the level of talent they're playing with is usually minuscule

1537
01:19:28,680 --> 01:19:31,840
Speaker 3: because they're being drafted by teams like the Panthers or

1538
01:19:31,880 --> 01:19:36,240
Speaker 3: teams like the Giants or the well Jets probably aren't

1539
01:19:36,240 --> 01:19:38,040
Speaker 3: that bad of a team roster wise, but you get

1540
01:19:38,080 --> 01:19:40,360
Speaker 3: my drift. Normally, it's a bad situation.

1541
01:19:40,800 --> 01:19:43,479
Speaker 2: The Raiders are trying to make a comeback to take

1542
01:19:43,520 --> 01:19:44,960
Speaker 2: the lead against the box.

1543
01:19:45,080 --> 01:19:46,479
Speaker 1: This is Red Zone Radio.

1544
01:19:46,880 --> 01:19:49,880
Speaker 16: An I formation still there, O'Connell under center, can I

1545
01:19:50,080 --> 01:19:54,360
Speaker 16: Mauga is right in front of Cecere McCormick. O'Connell keeps it.

1546
01:19:54,439 --> 01:19:57,000
Speaker 16: They push him towards the end zone. They're still pushing

1547
01:19:57,000 --> 01:19:59,120
Speaker 16: O'Connell's rushing touchdown.

1548
01:19:59,240 --> 01:20:04,160
Speaker 2: Raiders Hey to O'Connell pushed from behind by Mauga.

1549
01:20:05,120 --> 01:20:08,320
Speaker 1: That's Raider Nation Radio nine twenty a m.

1550
01:20:08,720 --> 01:20:13,479
Speaker 2: However, the Raiders open up the second half with a

1551
01:20:13,680 --> 01:20:16,320
Speaker 2: sixteen play drive that ended.

1552
01:20:16,080 --> 01:20:18,920
Speaker 1: With a eight and O'Connell interception.

1553
01:20:19,040 --> 01:20:21,920
Speaker 2: Buccaneers still lead the Raiders fourteen to ten, four forty

1554
01:20:21,960 --> 01:20:24,200
Speaker 2: to go in the third quarter of that game. This

1555
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1561
01:20:39,200 --> 01:20:43,639
Speaker 2: should be understand this. When a team is two to ten,

1562
01:20:43,840 --> 01:20:46,000
Speaker 2: it's really no different than ten and two.

1563
01:20:47,520 --> 01:20:49,840
Speaker 1: In the sense that you've earned that.

1564
01:20:50,280 --> 01:20:54,360
Speaker 2: I mean you you know when you when you look

1565
01:20:54,360 --> 01:20:57,439
Speaker 2: at the NFL Richid obviously you know this beter than anyone.

1566
01:20:58,120 --> 01:20:59,880
Speaker 2: It really is a coin toss in just about it.

1567
01:21:00,479 --> 01:21:02,880
Speaker 2: These are the best football players on the planet, you know,

1568
01:21:02,960 --> 01:21:05,160
Speaker 2: and you have a good day or bad day. But

1569
01:21:05,240 --> 01:21:08,200
Speaker 2: when you have way more bad days than good days,

1570
01:21:08,360 --> 01:21:11,240
Speaker 2: or way more good days and bad days, there's a

1571
01:21:11,320 --> 01:21:14,679
Speaker 2: reason for that. So for every great team that's sitting

1572
01:21:14,760 --> 01:21:17,920
Speaker 2: there at ten and two, they've earned that. But believe me,

1573
01:21:18,200 --> 01:21:21,120
Speaker 2: you've also earned it. If you're two and ten, it

1574
01:21:21,880 --> 01:21:25,400
Speaker 2: doesn't happen by chance. You got to be bad and

1575
01:21:25,439 --> 01:21:27,920
Speaker 2: the Raiders again open up the second half, suddenly an

1576
01:21:27,960 --> 01:21:31,400
Speaker 2: opportunity to take the lead. Boom, O'Connell throws an interception,

1577
01:21:31,640 --> 01:21:32,760
Speaker 2: bucks get the ball back.

1578
01:21:33,080 --> 01:21:37,960
Speaker 3: I completely agree with that assessment. It is really difficult

1579
01:21:38,040 --> 01:21:40,479
Speaker 3: to be really good in the NFL. It is also

1580
01:21:40,680 --> 01:21:44,519
Speaker 3: equally difficult to be really bad in the NFL. And

1581
01:21:44,560 --> 01:21:47,679
Speaker 3: people say, well, how does that make any sense? Well,

1582
01:21:47,800 --> 01:21:51,439
Speaker 3: it makes sense because do you think players want to

1583
01:21:51,520 --> 01:21:57,520
Speaker 3: be bad? The answer is absolutely not, because their livelihood depends.

1584
01:21:57,080 --> 01:21:58,000
Speaker 4: On them being good.

1585
01:21:58,439 --> 01:22:00,880
Speaker 3: It is easier to stay on on a roster for

1586
01:22:01,000 --> 01:22:04,519
Speaker 3: longer if you're on a good team. It is easier

1587
01:22:04,560 --> 01:22:08,360
Speaker 3: to stay in the NFL for longer if you're associated

1588
01:22:08,400 --> 01:22:11,360
Speaker 3: with winning as a player as opposed to losing. I mean,

1589
01:22:11,479 --> 01:22:15,479
Speaker 3: we literally label quarterbacks as such, Oh he's a winning quarterback.

1590
01:22:15,560 --> 01:22:17,120
Speaker 4: Oh he's a losing quarterback.

1591
01:22:17,600 --> 01:22:19,920
Speaker 3: So it is really hard to lose at a high

1592
01:22:20,000 --> 01:22:22,559
Speaker 3: rate in the NFL. And to your point, Steve, you

1593
01:22:22,640 --> 01:22:26,000
Speaker 3: absolutely do have to earn it. You need to blunder

1594
01:22:26,560 --> 01:22:31,240
Speaker 3: huge opportunities. You need to be completely the opposite of

1595
01:22:31,479 --> 01:22:35,439
Speaker 3: clutch in situational football moments. You need to make bad

1596
01:22:35,520 --> 01:22:38,960
Speaker 3: decisions from a personnel standpoint, from a game plan standpoint.

1597
01:22:39,200 --> 01:22:42,479
Speaker 3: You need to allow weather to affect you more than

1598
01:22:42,520 --> 01:22:46,240
Speaker 3: your opponents. So many things have to go wrong for

1599
01:22:46,320 --> 01:22:48,960
Speaker 3: you to be a two win football team. But every

1600
01:22:49,040 --> 01:22:51,960
Speaker 3: year we see two and three and four win football

1601
01:22:51,960 --> 01:22:55,160
Speaker 3: teams finish a seventeen game regular season, and we say

1602
01:22:55,200 --> 01:23:00,360
Speaker 3: what went wrong? Well, the answer is a lot, all right.

1603
01:23:00,400 --> 01:23:03,720
Speaker 2: That guy that bet three point one million dollars on

1604
01:23:03,840 --> 01:23:08,439
Speaker 2: the Eagles, guess what Carolina takes the lead on a

1605
01:23:08,520 --> 01:23:09,880
Speaker 2: Chuba Hubbard touchdown.

1606
01:23:09,920 --> 01:23:12,400
Speaker 1: However, the extra point.

1607
01:23:12,400 --> 01:23:16,599
Speaker 12: Is missed, also adding so Carolina leads the Eagles sixteen

1608
01:23:16,640 --> 01:23:20,759
Speaker 12: to fourteen. Also adding to this wrinkle for the Carolina Panthers,

1609
01:23:20,800 --> 01:23:24,720
Speaker 12: they challenged short of the goal line and the call

1610
01:23:24,760 --> 01:23:27,439
Speaker 12: in the field stood. So now they are down two

1611
01:23:27,479 --> 01:23:30,680
Speaker 12: timeouts already in the second half. So that got them

1612
01:23:30,680 --> 01:23:34,000
Speaker 12: a touchdown, but missed the pat and loses a timeout

1613
01:23:34,040 --> 01:23:34,639
Speaker 12: on the challenge.

1614
01:23:34,680 --> 01:23:37,240
Speaker 2: Well, the fact is they're leading a ten and two

1615
01:23:38,160 --> 01:23:41,479
Speaker 2: Eagles team and the Panthers are three to nine. Why

1616
01:23:41,520 --> 01:23:45,000
Speaker 2: the guy about three point one million? So Panthers lead

1617
01:23:45,040 --> 01:23:51,000
Speaker 2: the Eagles sixteen to fourteen. Saints Giants, I'm just gonna

1618
01:23:51,000 --> 01:23:54,640
Speaker 2: skip that game. What is what is worse? The Titans

1619
01:23:54,760 --> 01:23:57,439
Speaker 2: Jaguars are the Saints Giants? I mean, seriously, I mean,

1620
01:23:58,439 --> 01:24:00,760
Speaker 2: I'll put it this way. Both these games are in

1621
01:24:00,840 --> 01:24:08,080
Speaker 2: the third quarter. Combined points for four teams right now sixteen. Okay,

1622
01:24:08,240 --> 01:24:13,280
Speaker 2: that's four points per team on average in the third quarter.

1623
01:24:14,880 --> 01:24:17,559
Speaker 2: We talk about in NFL football. This is a questionable

1624
01:24:17,680 --> 01:24:20,519
Speaker 2: NFL football being played by the Saints Giants and the

1625
01:24:20,560 --> 01:24:22,280
Speaker 2: Titans and Jaguars.

1626
01:24:22,360 --> 01:24:25,000
Speaker 4: I don't know what's worse.

1627
01:24:25,280 --> 01:24:28,080
Speaker 3: I mean, the only thing I can say I guess

1628
01:24:28,120 --> 01:24:31,720
Speaker 3: about the Saints is among the other four teams, I

1629
01:24:31,760 --> 01:24:34,400
Speaker 3: should say three of the four teams we're talking about,

1630
01:24:34,920 --> 01:24:38,560
Speaker 3: they're the only one who has their season.

1631
01:24:38,400 --> 01:24:40,759
Speaker 4: Starter in a quarterback and Derek Carr.

1632
01:24:40,880 --> 01:24:44,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I guess that puts the Saints Giants game

1633
01:24:44,560 --> 01:24:48,400
Speaker 3: a little bit ahead of the Titans Jags game, but

1634
01:24:48,760 --> 01:24:52,120
Speaker 3: not by much. We're talking about the dregs of the NSC,

1635
01:24:52,680 --> 01:24:53,560
Speaker 3: the dregs of that.

1636
01:24:53,680 --> 01:24:55,840
Speaker 2: You want to hear some stats right now, Ali, So

1637
01:24:55,920 --> 01:24:58,280
Speaker 2: Derek Carr, you mentioned, Derek Carr not a great day,

1638
01:24:58,360 --> 01:25:00,560
Speaker 2: fifteen to twenty three hundred and thirty si yards, no

1639
01:25:00,680 --> 01:25:05,240
Speaker 2: touchdowns on a pick drew lock. Now the Giants quarterback

1640
01:25:05,800 --> 01:25:10,120
Speaker 2: seven of twenty two sixty yards. How is Brian Dables

1641
01:25:10,160 --> 01:25:12,200
Speaker 2: so coaching this team? Wasn't he supposed to be the

1642
01:25:12,720 --> 01:25:16,080
Speaker 2: quarterback whisperer. Wasn't even the guy that got all the

1643
01:25:16,160 --> 01:25:18,800
Speaker 2: credit for Josh Allen, you know, becoming a you know,

1644
01:25:18,920 --> 01:25:21,280
Speaker 2: like a sixty nine percent passer when he was a

1645
01:25:21,320 --> 01:25:25,040
Speaker 2: fifty eight percent passer at Wyoming. I don't know what

1646
01:25:25,120 --> 01:25:28,599
Speaker 2: he's whispering to these quarterbacks anymore, but there it's not working.

1647
01:25:29,000 --> 01:25:31,360
Speaker 3: Do you remember it was a week ago or two

1648
01:25:31,400 --> 01:25:36,760
Speaker 3: weeks ago when our engineer Chris Purfet was standing on

1649
01:25:36,840 --> 01:25:40,559
Speaker 3: the console and shouting to the rooftops like, why on

1650
01:25:40,600 --> 01:25:43,160
Speaker 3: earth is Tommy cole cuts in for the New York Giants.

1651
01:25:43,200 --> 01:25:45,280
Speaker 3: Why don't you kick the tires on Drew Lock, who

1652
01:25:45,320 --> 01:25:48,040
Speaker 3: is the much better quarterback in New York. Yeah, I

1653
01:25:48,080 --> 01:25:50,920
Speaker 3: think I think you caught. I think you called Detroit fever.

1654
01:25:51,120 --> 01:25:56,080
Speaker 2: I think he really into Detroit. Why why DeVito? You

1655
01:25:56,240 --> 01:25:58,200
Speaker 2: gotta go with Drew Lock where We're like, well, they're

1656
01:25:58,200 --> 01:26:00,160
Speaker 2: trying to lose. That's why they got DeVito out there.

1657
01:26:00,160 --> 01:26:01,840
Speaker 2: At least he's a little they're losing for you. Well,

1658
01:26:01,960 --> 01:26:04,840
Speaker 2: Drew Locke. Right now, Drew Lock is seven of twenty two.

1659
01:26:04,880 --> 01:26:07,280
Speaker 2: That's less than thirty three percent. By the way, touchdown

1660
01:26:07,400 --> 01:26:13,000
Speaker 2: pass Sam Darnald was justin Jefferson fifty two yards and

1661
01:26:13,040 --> 01:26:16,000
Speaker 2: the Vikings increased their lead to twenty one to thirteen

1662
01:26:16,680 --> 01:26:21,000
Speaker 2: over the Atlanta Falcons. Sam Darnald twelve of seventeen, two

1663
01:26:21,120 --> 01:26:25,400
Speaker 2: hundred and nineteen yards, three touchdowns, no picks. That's a

1664
01:26:25,479 --> 01:26:28,240
Speaker 2: pass a ratio one fifty two six of perfect ratings

1665
01:26:28,280 --> 01:26:31,800
Speaker 2: one fifty eight three and justin Jefferson having a day

1666
01:26:32,160 --> 01:26:35,840
Speaker 2: five targets, five catches, one hundred and twenty yards and

1667
01:26:35,960 --> 01:26:36,839
Speaker 2: two scores.

1668
01:26:36,960 --> 01:26:40,439
Speaker 3: And by the way, I just saying it out loud here,

1669
01:26:40,920 --> 01:26:44,360
Speaker 3: this this should feel like a home game for Kirk Cousins.

1670
01:26:45,400 --> 01:26:47,639
Speaker 3: I mean, Kirk Cousins played for a very long time

1671
01:26:47,640 --> 01:26:51,600
Speaker 3: in Minnesota. Kirk Cousins, I mean, he was pretty beloved

1672
01:26:51,680 --> 01:26:55,640
Speaker 3: by Minnesota fans overall. I think there were some, you know,

1673
01:26:55,840 --> 01:26:59,240
Speaker 3: moments where some of those fans were there was a

1674
01:26:59,280 --> 01:27:03,400
Speaker 3: lot of hand rasing over some moments on primetime.

1675
01:27:03,000 --> 01:27:03,880
Speaker 4: Or in the postseason.

1676
01:27:03,920 --> 01:27:06,360
Speaker 3: But overall, I think there was a lot of love

1677
01:27:06,400 --> 01:27:08,760
Speaker 3: for Kirk Cousins, even when he left in free agency.

1678
01:27:09,520 --> 01:27:14,360
Speaker 3: But he is getting out played like strongly by Sam

1679
01:27:14,400 --> 01:27:17,720
Speaker 3: Donald here, who's only thrown the ball seventeen times, but

1680
01:27:17,760 --> 01:27:21,880
Speaker 3: he's been massively efficient, as you mentioned, three touchdowns on

1681
01:27:21,960 --> 01:27:25,679
Speaker 3: the two nineteen through the air, only seventeen passes. Meanwhile,

1682
01:27:25,760 --> 01:27:30,080
Speaker 3: Kirk Cousins fourteen of twenty four or two thirty, no touchdowns,

1683
01:27:30,560 --> 01:27:35,320
Speaker 3: he's thrown a pick. I. It's interesting. It's interesting to

1684
01:27:35,400 --> 01:27:39,000
Speaker 3: this extent, like Kirk Cousins has been pretty well protected

1685
01:27:39,040 --> 01:27:42,360
Speaker 3: in certain games, He's been savage than others. He's actually

1686
01:27:42,400 --> 01:27:45,160
Speaker 3: played better at times under pressure than he has with

1687
01:27:45,200 --> 01:27:49,000
Speaker 3: a clean pocket. Sam Donald has been under siege for

1688
01:27:49,200 --> 01:27:51,720
Speaker 3: games now. He's been getting hit a lot, He's been

1689
01:27:51,720 --> 01:27:54,280
Speaker 3: getting sacked a lot. He's been getting banged up and

1690
01:27:54,360 --> 01:27:56,960
Speaker 3: dinged up and going back into games a bunch. Sam

1691
01:27:57,080 --> 01:27:59,760
Speaker 3: Donald is playing some of his best football now as

1692
01:27:59,800 --> 01:28:00,760
Speaker 3: this and Wayne's on.

1693
01:28:01,280 --> 01:28:04,080
Speaker 1: Remember how a couple of weeks ago Jameis Winston in

1694
01:28:04,120 --> 01:28:06,960
Speaker 1: the snow he was able to engineer a victory over

1695
01:28:07,000 --> 01:28:08,160
Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Steelers.

1696
01:28:08,200 --> 01:28:10,960
Speaker 2: This is what we call coaching. So two weeks later

1697
01:28:11,000 --> 01:28:14,840
Speaker 2: they have a rematch. YEP, Jameis Winston today ten of

1698
01:28:14,960 --> 01:28:17,200
Speaker 2: twenty two, one hundred and three yards and a pick.

1699
01:28:17,920 --> 01:28:21,439
Speaker 2: James Winston all to say he is a rollercoaster ride

1700
01:28:21,439 --> 01:28:24,880
Speaker 2: for Jamis went four hundred yards passing four touchdowns two

1701
01:28:24,880 --> 01:28:28,479
Speaker 2: pick six is last week. But the Steelers did their

1702
01:28:28,479 --> 01:28:31,960
Speaker 2: homework from two weeks ago. They have completely shut down

1703
01:28:32,360 --> 01:28:33,759
Speaker 2: this Brown's offense today.

1704
01:28:33,840 --> 01:28:37,439
Speaker 3: So you asked me a question earlier, and I answered

1705
01:28:37,439 --> 01:28:39,920
Speaker 3: it honestly. I do think that Jameis Winston is going

1706
01:28:39,920 --> 01:28:43,479
Speaker 3: to get another opportunity and he will be a starting quarterback.

1707
01:28:43,560 --> 01:28:46,639
Speaker 3: Whether it be for the Browns or someone else next season. However,

1708
01:28:46,720 --> 01:28:49,120
Speaker 3: I will also say this because this is kind of

1709
01:28:49,160 --> 01:28:54,400
Speaker 3: the butt part of that sentence, But I don't think

1710
01:28:54,479 --> 01:28:57,240
Speaker 3: Jameis Winston is a very good quarterback. And this is

1711
01:28:57,280 --> 01:29:01,160
Speaker 3: the reason why. It's because you'll get one of the two,

1712
01:29:01,400 --> 01:29:04,320
Speaker 3: and it's never gray area. Either you get good Jamis

1713
01:29:04,439 --> 01:29:08,640
Speaker 3: or bad Jamis. He is so wildly inconsistent. Sometimes he

1714
01:29:08,720 --> 01:29:11,360
Speaker 3: shows up good Jamis and then in the second half

1715
01:29:11,400 --> 01:29:14,519
Speaker 3: you get bad Jamis, or he shows up bad Jamis

1716
01:29:14,520 --> 01:29:16,799
Speaker 3: and then in the second half you get good Jamis.

1717
01:29:16,880 --> 01:29:19,479
Speaker 3: But good Jamis isn't good enough to bail out how

1718
01:29:19,520 --> 01:29:22,200
Speaker 3: bad bad Jamis was in the first half of either

1719
01:29:22,240 --> 01:29:25,519
Speaker 3: Browns games, or Saints games, or Tampa Bay Buccaneers games,

1720
01:29:25,640 --> 01:29:29,519
Speaker 3: wherever he has stopped along his his quarterbacking path. He

1721
01:29:29,680 --> 01:29:34,439
Speaker 3: is a frustrating quarterback because he is unbelievably talented. He

1722
01:29:34,479 --> 01:29:36,720
Speaker 3: can run, he can throw it a mile, he can

1723
01:29:36,760 --> 01:29:39,360
Speaker 3: make every NFL throw. He can throw it with touch,

1724
01:29:39,400 --> 01:29:42,040
Speaker 3: he can throw it with accuracy, he can put it

1725
01:29:42,080 --> 01:29:45,240
Speaker 3: on a frozen rope. But the problem is then he

1726
01:29:45,280 --> 01:29:48,200
Speaker 3: will also cough it up and make some of the

1727
01:29:48,240 --> 01:29:52,080
Speaker 3: worst decisions quarterbacks can make in the worst possible moments,

1728
01:29:52,400 --> 01:29:55,120
Speaker 3: and he does it to team after team after team,

1729
01:29:55,520 --> 01:29:56,559
Speaker 3: and he's never learned.

1730
01:29:56,680 --> 01:29:58,160
Speaker 4: He's just never learned.

1731
01:29:58,160 --> 01:29:58,519
Speaker 1: All right.

1732
01:29:58,560 --> 01:30:01,080
Speaker 2: The Eagles right now have his second and goal at

1733
01:30:01,080 --> 01:30:05,360
Speaker 2: the Carolina six yard line, trailing the Panthers sixteen fourteen.

1734
01:30:05,720 --> 01:30:08,360
Speaker 2: A little swing pass is gonna be short, so they

1735
01:30:08,400 --> 01:30:10,200
Speaker 2: have got a third and goal coming up at the

1736
01:30:10,240 --> 01:30:13,439
Speaker 2: four yard line. By the way, Sakuon Barkley already over

1737
01:30:13,479 --> 01:30:15,880
Speaker 2: one hundred yards rushing in this game, one hundred and

1738
01:30:15,920 --> 01:30:19,120
Speaker 2: seven yards. If you missed it yesterday, Eric Dickerson was

1739
01:30:19,160 --> 01:30:23,080
Speaker 2: on with me and Monsey. He made it clear that

1740
01:30:23,120 --> 01:30:26,439
Speaker 2: he does not want anyone to break his record, which,

1741
01:30:26,439 --> 01:30:27,800
Speaker 2: by the way, has been on the books.

1742
01:30:27,880 --> 01:30:28,599
Speaker 1: Can you believe this?

1743
01:30:29,160 --> 01:30:34,479
Speaker 2: Forty years? Whoa forty years he has held the wreckord

1744
01:30:34,520 --> 01:30:37,800
Speaker 2: for most rushing yards in the season. Adrian Peterson the

1745
01:30:37,840 --> 01:30:41,360
Speaker 2: year he was MVP, came up eight yards short. Barkley

1746
01:30:41,400 --> 01:30:44,759
Speaker 2: will have the additional game this year, and right now

1747
01:30:44,800 --> 01:30:47,640
Speaker 2: he's on pace. If he can get it done, we

1748
01:30:47,680 --> 01:30:50,400
Speaker 2: will see. We're gonna continue on right now, we're heading

1749
01:30:50,439 --> 01:30:52,960
Speaker 2: to it looks like a few games it could have

1750
01:30:53,000 --> 01:30:54,799
Speaker 2: a very exciting finish.

1751
01:30:55,200 --> 01:30:58,040
Speaker 1: This is Red Zone Radio Urdnate.

1752
01:30:57,840 --> 01:31:00,160
Speaker 17: Ennisota six or eleven on third down, Sam.

1753
01:31:00,120 --> 01:31:02,280
Speaker 18: Under a lot of pressure, how'd you get away from

1754
01:31:02,320 --> 01:31:12,200
Speaker 18: that NEWI cruise te Justin wide open touchdown Justin Jefferson

1755
01:31:12,600 --> 01:31:14,680
Speaker 18: for the forty eight yard reception.

1756
01:31:15,200 --> 01:31:18,599
Speaker 10: But Sam Darnold was Budini for the day.

1757
01:31:19,600 --> 01:31:24,160
Speaker 2: That's k Fan one hundred point three FM, Vikings Radio Network.

1758
01:31:24,320 --> 01:31:29,680
Speaker 2: But the Falcons answer Bejon Robinson gets in the end

1759
01:31:29,760 --> 01:31:33,680
Speaker 2: zone and they get a two point conversion. So Vikings

1760
01:31:33,800 --> 01:31:38,280
Speaker 2: and Falcons tied at twenty one. This is Red Zone Radio.

1761
01:31:38,400 --> 01:31:40,960
Speaker 2: Steve Harbin, Rich Ormberger with you. We're live from the

1762
01:31:41,479 --> 01:31:45,040
Speaker 2: Tirak dot com studios. Meanwhile, Rich, the Eagles taking the

1763
01:31:45,160 --> 01:31:52,479
Speaker 2: lead on a touchdown Jalen Hurts touchdown pass, and then

1764
01:31:52,560 --> 01:31:55,879
Speaker 2: they missed the extra point, but there was a penalty

1765
01:31:55,920 --> 01:31:59,960
Speaker 2: against Carolina on the missed extra point half the distance

1766
01:32:00,080 --> 01:32:02,600
Speaker 2: of the goal sides, I believe, and then the Eagles.

1767
01:32:02,200 --> 01:32:05,200
Speaker 1: Decided to go for two and they got it unreal.

1768
01:32:05,360 --> 01:32:07,800
Speaker 2: So instead of that being up twenty to sixteen with

1769
01:32:07,840 --> 01:32:10,639
Speaker 2: the miss exer point, the two point conversion gives them

1770
01:32:10,640 --> 01:32:14,799
Speaker 2: a twenty two to sixteen lead over Carolina inside fourteen

1771
01:32:14,880 --> 01:32:17,400
Speaker 2: minutes to go in that game.

1772
01:32:17,680 --> 01:32:18,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, so we're hitting there.

1773
01:32:19,000 --> 01:32:21,559
Speaker 4: It is, and that is sort.

1774
01:32:21,320 --> 01:32:24,320
Speaker 3: Of the description of what we were talking about earlier, like,

1775
01:32:24,720 --> 01:32:28,160
Speaker 3: how how are teams three win teams at the end

1776
01:32:28,160 --> 01:32:29,840
Speaker 3: of the season or four win teams at the end

1777
01:32:29,840 --> 01:32:30,320
Speaker 3: of the season.

1778
01:32:30,680 --> 01:32:32,320
Speaker 4: Well, this is how the Panthers.

1779
01:32:32,800 --> 01:32:36,280
Speaker 3: They kind of have the Eagles right where they want them,

1780
01:32:36,640 --> 01:32:40,000
Speaker 3: and and and they they screw things up, you know

1781
01:32:40,040 --> 01:32:42,519
Speaker 3: what I mean, Like they'll just consistently do it. Chris,

1782
01:32:42,800 --> 01:32:45,840
Speaker 3: you were talking about that challenge earlier in the game.

1783
01:32:46,000 --> 01:32:50,200
Speaker 3: A missed opportunity there obviously here at the goal line

1784
01:32:50,400 --> 01:32:54,040
Speaker 3: after a score off sides on the extra point cost

1785
01:32:54,160 --> 01:32:57,800
Speaker 3: you a two point swing, which could prove costly later

1786
01:32:57,840 --> 01:33:00,240
Speaker 3: on in the game. We'll see how things go oh

1787
01:33:00,280 --> 01:33:03,080
Speaker 3: here as we enter the fourth quarter with thirteen minutes

1788
01:33:03,160 --> 01:33:06,200
Speaker 3: left in this game. But that is that is pretty

1789
01:33:06,240 --> 01:33:09,840
Speaker 3: much the prescription of how you become a bad team

1790
01:33:10,360 --> 01:33:12,439
Speaker 3: or a three win team or a four win team

1791
01:33:12,479 --> 01:33:17,479
Speaker 3: on the year is you completely screw up situational football

1792
01:33:17,520 --> 01:33:18,360
Speaker 3: time and time again.

1793
01:33:18,439 --> 01:33:22,040
Speaker 2: All right, Jacksonville has just scored to take the lead

1794
01:33:22,320 --> 01:33:25,040
Speaker 2: nine to six, penning the extra point on the road

1795
01:33:25,080 --> 01:33:28,800
Speaker 2: against the Titans. I only mentioned that because technically this

1796
01:33:29,000 --> 01:33:32,800
Speaker 2: is an NFL game, the Jets added a field goal

1797
01:33:32,920 --> 01:33:35,800
Speaker 2: they extend their lead over the Dolphins to twenty three

1798
01:33:35,840 --> 01:33:39,040
Speaker 2: to fifteen. Aaron Rodgers, by the way, twenty to thirty

1799
01:33:39,080 --> 01:33:41,760
Speaker 2: two hundred and fifty nine yards in a score. He's

1800
01:33:41,800 --> 01:33:45,879
Speaker 2: thinking about that MVP trophy that Rich guaranteed him before

1801
01:33:46,000 --> 01:33:46,599
Speaker 2: the season.

1802
01:33:47,240 --> 01:33:49,320
Speaker 1: I want to detour for a second here. Bring on.

1803
01:33:49,439 --> 01:33:52,000
Speaker 1: Bob Benson, are Steam producer.

1804
01:33:52,040 --> 01:33:56,880
Speaker 2: Has a theory about the quarterbacking situation with the Philadelphia

1805
01:33:56,960 --> 01:34:00,519
Speaker 2: Eagles now leading the Panthers by six. Eagles the atten

1806
01:34:00,600 --> 01:34:04,679
Speaker 2: and to Saquon Barkley having an MVP caliber season as

1807
01:34:04,720 --> 01:34:08,120
Speaker 2: a running back. But Bo, you have some thoughts on

1808
01:34:08,160 --> 01:34:11,200
Speaker 2: the future of Jalen Hurts as an Eagle.

1809
01:34:11,360 --> 01:34:14,679
Speaker 9: Yeah, and like also shout out to a odd couple

1810
01:34:14,680 --> 01:34:16,920
Speaker 9: of producer Rob Garra for stealing my take and posting

1811
01:34:16,960 --> 01:34:22,320
Speaker 9: it as if it's his own. Unbelievable work from him take. Yeah, No,

1812
01:34:22,920 --> 01:34:25,639
Speaker 9: Jalen Hurts reminds me of Jared Goff before the Rams

1813
01:34:25,680 --> 01:34:29,200
Speaker 9: needed detrade him to get a new quarterback in town

1814
01:34:29,240 --> 01:34:31,080
Speaker 9: to win. Everybody else on this roster is built to

1815
01:34:31,120 --> 01:34:33,679
Speaker 9: win now, But I don't know if you can win

1816
01:34:34,080 --> 01:34:37,000
Speaker 9: with Jalen Hurts as your quarterback. Outside of the one

1817
01:34:37,080 --> 01:34:38,519
Speaker 9: year where they got to the super Bowl and loss

1818
01:34:38,560 --> 01:34:40,280
Speaker 9: of the Chiefs, which you know, Jared Goff got to

1819
01:34:40,320 --> 01:34:43,519
Speaker 9: the super Bowl, lots of the Patriots, He's not played

1820
01:34:43,520 --> 01:34:45,719
Speaker 9: well enough to certainly we'll live up to the contract

1821
01:34:45,720 --> 01:34:46,080
Speaker 9: he got.

1822
01:34:46,120 --> 01:34:47,760
Speaker 1: Well, let's slow down for a second here.

1823
01:34:47,840 --> 01:34:50,080
Speaker 2: I mean, his performance in the super Bowl is a

1824
01:34:50,080 --> 01:34:51,519
Speaker 2: lot different than God's performance.

1825
01:34:51,560 --> 01:34:51,960
Speaker 9: That's true.

1826
01:34:52,000 --> 01:34:52,719
Speaker 1: In the Super Bowl.

1827
01:34:52,760 --> 01:34:55,320
Speaker 2: Had it not been for that flu dropping of a ball,

1828
01:34:56,040 --> 01:34:57,360
Speaker 2: he was the Super Bowl MVP.

1829
01:34:57,800 --> 01:35:00,760
Speaker 9: It also has not gotten better that the apex of

1830
01:35:00,760 --> 01:35:01,639
Speaker 9: his career so far.

1831
01:35:02,479 --> 01:35:03,280
Speaker 2: And why is that?

1832
01:35:03,560 --> 01:35:04,439
Speaker 9: Yeah, that's a good question.

1833
01:35:04,560 --> 01:35:07,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, knows Well, they gave him the huge contract. I mean, again,

1834
01:35:07,520 --> 01:35:09,960
Speaker 2: it's always interesting, Rich and we've seen this time and again.

1835
01:35:10,000 --> 01:35:13,400
Speaker 2: You've seen this from teammates players, you've gone against. Money

1836
01:35:14,840 --> 01:35:16,480
Speaker 2: affects people differently.

1837
01:35:16,560 --> 01:35:16,760
Speaker 4: You know.

1838
01:35:16,840 --> 01:35:19,560
Speaker 2: I mean there are certain guys that get paid a

1839
01:35:19,600 --> 01:35:21,519
Speaker 2: lot of money and they never slowed down, you know,

1840
01:35:21,680 --> 01:35:24,240
Speaker 2: whether it was a Tom Brady or Patrick Mahomes, these

1841
01:35:24,240 --> 01:35:26,840
Speaker 2: guys don't you know. Okay, there's more money in the bank.

1842
01:35:26,960 --> 01:35:29,599
Speaker 2: That doesn't change Yeah, he doesn't change them at all.

1843
01:35:30,000 --> 01:35:33,040
Speaker 2: I mean they're still driven to be the best they

1844
01:35:33,040 --> 01:35:37,720
Speaker 2: can possibly be. Other guys, all of a sudden, it's like, ooh, okay,

1845
01:35:38,320 --> 01:35:42,120
Speaker 2: got a little security right now, and maybe don't force

1846
01:35:42,200 --> 01:35:45,880
Speaker 2: themselves to push the great the old time legends, no

1847
01:35:45,920 --> 01:35:49,479
Speaker 2: matter how much talent, they have constantly pushed themselves to

1848
01:35:49,600 --> 01:35:50,760
Speaker 2: be better constantly.

1849
01:35:50,880 --> 01:35:52,080
Speaker 4: I think that.

1850
01:35:53,840 --> 01:35:59,760
Speaker 3: Look, everybody is chasing comfort. Okay, if you are financially insecure,

1851
01:36:00,439 --> 01:36:04,719
Speaker 3: you're chasing to be financially more secure. If you're hungry,

1852
01:36:04,760 --> 01:36:07,120
Speaker 3: and I'm not even talking about hungry, like you don't

1853
01:36:07,200 --> 01:36:10,200
Speaker 3: have food to eat, but I'm just saying like you're

1854
01:36:10,280 --> 01:36:13,800
Speaker 3: you're hungry because you've had a long day, you haven't

1855
01:36:13,840 --> 01:36:15,880
Speaker 3: really been able to slow down long enough to grab

1856
01:36:15,920 --> 01:36:16,280
Speaker 3: a meal.

1857
01:36:17,080 --> 01:36:17,960
Speaker 4: I mean, you will.

1858
01:36:18,240 --> 01:36:22,360
Speaker 3: You will prioritize now feeding yourself over getting home.

1859
01:36:22,880 --> 01:36:23,799
Speaker 4: You will, You'll.

1860
01:36:23,560 --> 01:36:26,519
Speaker 3: Prioritize feeding yourself. You know, maybe if it's you're you're

1861
01:36:26,560 --> 01:36:29,760
Speaker 3: almost out of gas, but hey man, you know McDonald's

1862
01:36:29,800 --> 01:36:32,559
Speaker 3: is right there, the gas station's right there. I'd rather

1863
01:36:32,720 --> 01:36:35,920
Speaker 3: push my car across the street than not have food

1864
01:36:35,960 --> 01:36:38,920
Speaker 3: in my stomach. For just a little bit, Like, all

1865
01:36:38,960 --> 01:36:41,880
Speaker 3: of a sudden, you start to look at life a

1866
01:36:41,920 --> 01:36:45,559
Speaker 3: little bit differently. When things are taking care for you like,

1867
01:36:45,600 --> 01:36:48,640
Speaker 3: if all of a sudden you're getting paid where you

1868
01:36:48,760 --> 01:36:51,680
Speaker 3: no longer have to clip coupons, are you gonna be

1869
01:36:51,680 --> 01:36:52,439
Speaker 3: clipping them?

1870
01:36:52,640 --> 01:36:52,840
Speaker 4: You know?

1871
01:36:53,000 --> 01:36:54,720
Speaker 3: Are you gonna be looking for sales or are you

1872
01:36:54,800 --> 01:36:56,360
Speaker 3: just gonna go to the grocery store and get what

1873
01:36:56,400 --> 01:36:58,519
Speaker 3: you need to get and get out of there, Like

1874
01:36:58,560 --> 01:37:01,360
Speaker 3: you know, there are problems that you have that money

1875
01:37:01,400 --> 01:37:04,840
Speaker 3: can solve and that comfort that we're all seeking. When

1876
01:37:04,880 --> 01:37:08,000
Speaker 3: you're an NFL football player and you're hungry and you're

1877
01:37:08,080 --> 01:37:11,839
Speaker 3: working out like you are, you are you are starved.

1878
01:37:12,000 --> 01:37:14,639
Speaker 3: You are a starved animal looking for your next kill.

1879
01:37:15,320 --> 01:37:18,760
Speaker 3: That is a very different mentality than when all of

1880
01:37:18,800 --> 01:37:21,280
Speaker 3: a sudden, you have about two hundred million dollars in

1881
01:37:21,320 --> 01:37:24,800
Speaker 3: your bank account. Life slows down a little bit. You

1882
01:37:24,840 --> 01:37:27,920
Speaker 3: can say yes to more things. You don't have to

1883
01:37:28,400 --> 01:37:31,920
Speaker 3: necessarily work as hard as you once did because you've

1884
01:37:31,960 --> 01:37:35,160
Speaker 3: already made it, You've already arrived. You're absolutely right, Steve.

1885
01:37:35,400 --> 01:37:38,840
Speaker 3: There are certain guys who that never influences. And I'm

1886
01:37:38,880 --> 01:37:41,320
Speaker 3: not even saying that Jalen Hurts is one of those guys.

1887
01:37:41,360 --> 01:37:43,600
Speaker 3: I don't know him personally, I don't know how he

1888
01:37:43,680 --> 01:37:45,920
Speaker 3: works in the offseason, but I do know, I've seen

1889
01:37:45,920 --> 01:37:47,160
Speaker 3: that change in a lot of people.

1890
01:37:47,200 --> 01:37:49,639
Speaker 2: He hasn't gotten better. That's the bottom line is. I'll

1891
01:37:49,640 --> 01:37:52,840
Speaker 2: tell you who is getting better. Sam Darnld just throw

1892
01:37:52,880 --> 01:37:54,600
Speaker 2: another touchdown pass.

1893
01:37:54,479 --> 01:37:57,120
Speaker 1: No defense in this game, there's Sam Dardald. Listen to

1894
01:37:57,160 --> 01:37:57,759
Speaker 1: these numbers.

1895
01:37:57,800 --> 01:38:00,559
Speaker 2: Sixteen of twenty two to two hundred ninety one yards,

1896
01:38:00,600 --> 01:38:03,720
Speaker 2: four touchdowns, no picks. Had to pass the radio one

1897
01:38:03,840 --> 01:38:05,920
Speaker 2: fifty four to four and get these numbers.

1898
01:38:06,320 --> 01:38:06,559
Speaker 1: Justin.

1899
01:38:06,640 --> 01:38:09,400
Speaker 2: Jefferson six catches, one hundred and twenty five yards and

1900
01:38:09,439 --> 01:38:14,160
Speaker 2: two touchdowns. Jordan Addison six catches one hundred and eighteen

1901
01:38:14,240 --> 01:38:18,280
Speaker 2: yards and two touchdowns. So the Vikings retake the lead

1902
01:38:18,400 --> 01:38:21,880
Speaker 2: twenty eight to twenty one over the Falcon. Still plenty

1903
01:38:21,880 --> 01:38:24,880
Speaker 2: of time left in this game. But Sam Donald, all

1904
01:38:24,920 --> 01:38:28,719
Speaker 2: of a sudden, guys is beginning to get hot again.

1905
01:38:28,920 --> 01:38:31,840
Speaker 9: Is there any reason why Sam Donald shouldn't be top

1906
01:38:31,960 --> 01:38:32,719
Speaker 9: two MVP?

1907
01:38:33,040 --> 01:38:35,599
Speaker 2: Well, I mean this year, by the way that passed

1908
01:38:35,600 --> 01:38:37,800
Speaker 2: that he just threw the Jordan Addison, which was in

1909
01:38:37,840 --> 01:38:42,120
Speaker 2: the front corner of the end zone was an absolute dove.

1910
01:38:42,360 --> 01:38:43,080
Speaker 4: I mean that was a.

1911
01:38:43,120 --> 01:38:47,759
Speaker 12: Perfect bat Like he's been throwing these high long balls

1912
01:38:47,840 --> 01:38:51,000
Speaker 12: all day. Yeah, and Addison and Jefferson are just there's

1913
01:38:51,040 --> 01:38:53,479
Speaker 12: always in Atlanta defender right on top of them, but

1914
01:38:53,520 --> 01:38:55,360
Speaker 12: they're just wretching the balls away.

1915
01:38:55,400 --> 01:38:58,559
Speaker 1: But this has been his story from the beginning.

1916
01:38:58,600 --> 01:39:01,040
Speaker 2: With Sam Darnald, we saw one as a red shirt

1917
01:39:01,080 --> 01:39:04,800
Speaker 2: freshman at usc beating your Penn State Nitney Lyons and

1918
01:39:04,840 --> 01:39:06,680
Speaker 2: that Rose Bowl. I mean it was I mean, this

1919
01:39:06,760 --> 01:39:09,840
Speaker 2: kid looked like unbelievable because he could make plays to

1920
01:39:09,920 --> 01:39:13,719
Speaker 2: get to extend plays, great athleticism, he could throw every

1921
01:39:13,720 --> 01:39:16,280
Speaker 2: different direction, and then the next year he has more

1922
01:39:16,320 --> 01:39:20,120
Speaker 2: turnovers personally than two thirds of the teams in the country.

1923
01:39:20,160 --> 01:39:21,559
Speaker 1: So it's been all over the map.

1924
01:39:21,560 --> 01:39:25,280
Speaker 2: But when he is honed in, when he is focused

1925
01:39:25,320 --> 01:39:27,960
Speaker 2: and doing what he can do, he's as good as

1926
01:39:28,000 --> 01:39:28,360
Speaker 2: they get.

1927
01:39:28,560 --> 01:39:31,160
Speaker 9: We all assume that Josh Allen's like the leader in

1928
01:39:31,160 --> 01:39:33,840
Speaker 9: the clubhouse or the MV right, mm hmm. Sam Donald

1929
01:39:33,920 --> 01:39:39,760
Speaker 9: has a better completion percentage, more yards, more touchdowns, yeah,

1930
01:39:40,080 --> 01:39:42,840
Speaker 9: better yards per attempt. The only thing he's worse at

1931
01:39:42,880 --> 01:39:45,559
Speaker 9: his interceptions. He has five. He has ten to Allen's five.

1932
01:39:45,640 --> 01:39:48,120
Speaker 9: But when you consider the fact that everyone was picking

1933
01:39:48,120 --> 01:39:51,040
Speaker 9: the Vikings to be the worst team in their division

1934
01:39:51,080 --> 01:39:53,880
Speaker 9: if not football like, well, I don't know, I don't

1935
01:39:53,880 --> 01:39:55,479
Speaker 9: know how he's not the MVP front runner.

1936
01:39:55,240 --> 01:39:56,080
Speaker 4: At this I will say this.

1937
01:39:56,240 --> 01:39:59,240
Speaker 3: I will say this, and bo, I believe in everything

1938
01:39:59,280 --> 01:40:00,680
Speaker 3: you're saying, and I thin I think he should be

1939
01:40:00,720 --> 01:40:03,479
Speaker 3: in the conversation. I was saying that earlier in the show. However,

1940
01:40:04,160 --> 01:40:06,080
Speaker 3: if you look at the Buffalo Bills and some of

1941
01:40:06,080 --> 01:40:08,240
Speaker 3: the teams they beat, and you look at the Minnesota

1942
01:40:08,320 --> 01:40:11,360
Speaker 3: Vikings and the list of teams they've beaten, it's a

1943
01:40:11,479 --> 01:40:12,600
Speaker 3: very different looking.

1944
01:40:12,360 --> 01:40:14,840
Speaker 2: Will and especially when you consider if you look at

1945
01:40:14,840 --> 01:40:17,240
Speaker 2: the if Sam Donald's going to get on the radar

1946
01:40:17,360 --> 01:40:19,280
Speaker 2: as far as MVP, he's going to have a chance

1947
01:40:19,320 --> 01:40:21,679
Speaker 2: on the field. So next week they host the Bears,

1948
01:40:21,960 --> 01:40:27,360
Speaker 2: their last three games at the Seahawks, Packers at home

1949
01:40:28,479 --> 01:40:31,880
Speaker 2: at Detroit. Yeah, those are the Vikings last three games,

1950
01:40:31,880 --> 01:40:34,559
Speaker 2: so on the road against the Seahawks team that obviously

1951
01:40:34,600 --> 01:40:36,760
Speaker 2: will need to win to you know, stay in the

1952
01:40:36,840 --> 01:40:40,000
Speaker 2: race in the NFC West, Packers at home, and then

1953
01:40:40,400 --> 01:40:44,880
Speaker 2: at Detroit. Now, if he goes to Detroit, yep, and

1954
01:40:44,920 --> 01:40:47,639
Speaker 2: they beat the Lions and win the.

1955
01:40:47,600 --> 01:40:49,400
Speaker 1: Division, no, I get it.

1956
01:40:49,680 --> 01:40:53,120
Speaker 2: Then then then all of a sudden, yes, Sam Donald's

1957
01:40:53,120 --> 01:40:54,360
Speaker 2: in the MVB conversation.

1958
01:40:54,840 --> 01:40:59,920
Speaker 3: Here's their wins to date. Arizona, Chicago, Tennessee, Jacksonville, Indiana.

1959
01:41:00,080 --> 01:41:03,040
Speaker 3: That's green Bay on the road, Lambeau. That was a

1960
01:41:03,200 --> 01:41:06,679
Speaker 3: very impressive win for the Vikings earlier this season. Houston

1961
01:41:06,720 --> 01:41:10,120
Speaker 3: San Francisco Giants. Not a single one of those games

1962
01:41:10,160 --> 01:41:12,840
Speaker 3: except for the road win in Green Bay.

1963
01:41:13,160 --> 01:41:14,160
Speaker 4: Are you like wow?

1964
01:41:14,720 --> 01:41:18,320
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, they did engineer the comeback last week against Arizona.

1965
01:41:18,439 --> 01:41:19,400
Speaker 1: I get it's impressive.

1966
01:41:19,479 --> 01:41:22,400
Speaker 3: I get, you know, and actually, maybe I'm probably not

1967
01:41:22,560 --> 01:41:26,439
Speaker 3: giving him enough credit because record wise Arizona, but I

1968
01:41:26,479 --> 01:41:28,880
Speaker 3: do think Arizona is a scary team to prepare for.

1969
01:41:28,960 --> 01:41:31,400
Speaker 2: Well, it's just the manner in which he won that game,

1970
01:41:31,520 --> 01:41:33,360
Speaker 2: because it looked like Arizona had that game.

1971
01:41:33,600 --> 01:41:35,160
Speaker 4: Oh, they most certainly did.

1972
01:41:35,640 --> 01:41:38,120
Speaker 3: It was both a mixture of Arizona giving it away

1973
01:41:38,120 --> 01:41:41,120
Speaker 3: and the Vikings taking it from them. But yeah, so,

1974
01:41:41,240 --> 01:41:44,320
Speaker 3: I mean, let's put that in the halfway category. So

1975
01:41:44,400 --> 01:41:47,400
Speaker 3: you have one and a half impressive wins in terms

1976
01:41:47,439 --> 01:41:50,400
Speaker 3: of just the way the record lines up for the

1977
01:41:50,439 --> 01:41:53,080
Speaker 3: Minnesota Vikings, and then you look at the Bills and

1978
01:41:53,120 --> 01:41:53,639
Speaker 3: the type of.

1979
01:41:53,560 --> 01:41:56,160
Speaker 4: Season they've had. They've been impressive.

1980
01:41:56,520 --> 01:41:59,240
Speaker 3: Now, don't get me wrong, Josh Allen has been impressive

1981
01:41:59,320 --> 01:42:02,040
Speaker 3: all season long. The Bills have been, and with the

1982
01:42:02,080 --> 01:42:05,479
Speaker 3: same record ten wins, they've been an impressive team as well.

1983
01:42:05,520 --> 01:42:09,519
Speaker 3: But the type of teams that they've beaten kse Okay,

1984
01:42:09,800 --> 01:42:14,559
Speaker 3: the best team in record wise in the NFL. Seattle

1985
01:42:14,640 --> 01:42:16,760
Speaker 3: on the road a bigger win than people will give

1986
01:42:16,760 --> 01:42:21,439
Speaker 3: credit for Arizona to start this season. And some of

1987
01:42:21,439 --> 01:42:23,880
Speaker 3: these teams that they should beat, they're beating by a

1988
01:42:24,000 --> 01:42:27,600
Speaker 3: million points, like San Francisco. It wasn't even close the

1989
01:42:27,600 --> 01:42:30,559
Speaker 3: Indianapolis Colts game. I know it's thirty to twenty, but

1990
01:42:30,640 --> 01:42:34,000
Speaker 3: we watched that game. That wasn't even close. They beat

1991
01:42:34,080 --> 01:42:37,679
Speaker 3: the Jacksonville Jaguars earlier this season with Trevor Lawrence still healthy,

1992
01:42:38,080 --> 01:42:41,160
Speaker 3: forty seven to ten. I mean, they were pummeling teams.

1993
01:42:41,160 --> 01:42:44,040
Speaker 4: Now. The one big blemish on their record.

1994
01:42:44,160 --> 01:42:46,920
Speaker 3: Is that hideous loss they took to the Baltimore Ravens

1995
01:42:46,960 --> 01:42:50,360
Speaker 3: earlier this season. But to say that Sam Darnold isn't

1996
01:42:50,479 --> 01:42:55,400
Speaker 3: in the MVP conversation or shouldn't be, is an enormous oversight.

1997
01:42:55,439 --> 01:42:57,240
Speaker 1: Here they went out, He's definitely there.

1998
01:42:57,280 --> 01:43:02,760
Speaker 2: By the way, after the Vikings touchdown, Atlanta fumbled on

1999
01:43:02,800 --> 01:43:06,559
Speaker 2: the kickoff return, so the Vikings have the ball right back,

2000
01:43:06,680 --> 01:43:08,320
Speaker 2: leading twenty eight to twenty one.

2001
01:43:08,840 --> 01:43:09,519
Speaker 1: They're at the.

2002
01:43:09,680 --> 01:43:13,120
Speaker 2: Eighteen yard line with a first down. All right, let's

2003
01:43:13,120 --> 01:43:15,040
Speaker 2: find out what is a trending?

2004
01:43:15,360 --> 01:43:19,000
Speaker 1: Right now? Martin is back. So do you like this?

2005
01:43:19,080 --> 01:43:21,040
Speaker 1: I mean red zone radio? And this is pretty cool,

2006
01:43:21,080 --> 01:43:21,439
Speaker 1: isn't it?

2007
01:43:21,680 --> 01:43:21,880
Speaker 3: Yeah?

2008
01:43:21,920 --> 01:43:23,920
Speaker 6: I mean, you know, it's the biggest difference in my

2009
01:43:24,000 --> 01:43:26,360
Speaker 6: Sunday is now I'm you know, reading through the scores,

2010
01:43:26,400 --> 01:43:27,960
Speaker 6: but I was watching football whole sunday.

2011
01:43:27,960 --> 01:43:28,439
Speaker 7: Anyways.

2012
01:43:28,720 --> 01:43:30,160
Speaker 3: That's true, exactly, very true.

2013
01:43:30,200 --> 01:43:32,080
Speaker 1: This is what I always tell people what is like

2014
01:43:32,120 --> 01:43:32,320
Speaker 1: to do?

2015
01:43:32,439 --> 01:43:35,320
Speaker 2: I go, I would be sitting here on a Sunday

2016
01:43:35,320 --> 01:43:39,360
Speaker 2: watching the games anyway, right, I got multiple TVs and what.

2017
01:43:39,400 --> 01:43:41,439
Speaker 1: Our job is is to talk about the games.

2018
01:43:42,160 --> 01:43:43,680
Speaker 4: So yeah, Simon, it's not bad.

2019
01:43:43,840 --> 01:43:45,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, where do you sign up for that?

2020
01:43:45,720 --> 01:43:47,920
Speaker 7: Well, you know I would have watched.

2021
01:43:48,160 --> 01:43:52,759
Speaker 6: I wouldn't even complain about Jacksonville, Tennesseeans.

2022
01:43:51,640 --> 01:43:53,360
Speaker 2: A little bit of game.

2023
01:43:53,439 --> 01:43:53,719
Speaker 13: Yeah.

2024
01:43:55,560 --> 01:43:57,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, technically, I guess.

2025
01:43:57,080 --> 01:44:00,080
Speaker 6: If you forced me, if there's one touchdown scored and

2026
01:44:00,120 --> 01:44:02,679
Speaker 6: it still counters the witching hours, is like the witching

2027
01:44:02,760 --> 01:44:03,559
Speaker 6: fifteen minutes.

2028
01:44:03,720 --> 01:44:05,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true.

2029
01:44:05,880 --> 01:44:08,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, we could switch that up, that's for sure.

2030
01:44:08,840 --> 01:44:11,599
Speaker 6: So the Jaguars score touchdown, first touchdown of the game

2031
01:44:11,640 --> 01:44:13,519
Speaker 6: for either team in the fourth quarter. We're at the

2032
01:44:13,520 --> 01:44:18,080
Speaker 6: two minute warning now Jaguars ten, Titans six. At thirteen

2033
01:44:18,120 --> 01:44:19,880
Speaker 6: minutes left in the fourth quarter, the Jets have an

2034
01:44:19,880 --> 01:44:22,639
Speaker 6: eight point lead over the Dolphins twenty three to fifteen.

2035
01:44:22,680 --> 01:44:25,240
Speaker 6: Aaron Rodgers just got sacked. See if Miami can come

2036
01:44:25,280 --> 01:44:28,200
Speaker 6: back in this one. The Viking there we go with

2037
01:44:28,240 --> 01:44:30,360
Speaker 6: a twenty eight to twenty one lead over the.

2038
01:44:30,280 --> 01:44:32,479
Speaker 7: Falcons with eleven minutes left in the fourth quarter.

2039
01:44:32,520 --> 01:44:35,800
Speaker 6: Sam Darnold with four touchdown passes so far, two of

2040
01:44:35,840 --> 01:44:38,439
Speaker 6: those to Justin Jefferson. He hadn't caught a touchdown before

2041
01:44:38,439 --> 01:44:41,400
Speaker 6: today in about two months. The Saint seven fourteen three

2042
01:44:41,479 --> 01:44:43,800
Speaker 6: lead over the Giants with fourteen minutes left in the

2043
01:44:43,800 --> 01:44:47,880
Speaker 6: third quarter. Derek Carr one touchdown pass to Juan jenningw

2044
01:44:47,960 --> 01:44:51,559
Speaker 6: Dwan Johnson the tight end twenty two to sixteen. The

2045
01:44:51,560 --> 01:44:53,960
Speaker 6: score between the Eagles and the Panthers Philadelphia with the

2046
01:44:54,040 --> 01:44:56,799
Speaker 6: lead eight minutes left in the fourth quarter. Sakwon Barkley

2047
01:44:57,040 --> 01:44:59,920
Speaker 6: seventeen carries, one hundred and sixteen yards rushing. Bryce Young

2048
01:45:00,080 --> 01:45:04,320
Speaker 6: with the touchdown pass and an interception twenty twenty seven

2049
01:45:04,360 --> 01:45:07,240
Speaker 6: to seven the Sword with Pittsburgh and Cleveland. The Dealers

2050
01:45:07,280 --> 01:45:09,840
Speaker 6: with the twenty point lead there thirteen minutes left in

2051
01:45:09,880 --> 01:45:12,880
Speaker 6: the fourth quarter. Russell Wilson with two touchdown passes. Jerry

2052
01:45:12,960 --> 01:45:15,280
Speaker 6: Judy with the loan touchdown for Cleveland. It was in

2053
01:45:15,320 --> 01:45:18,439
Speaker 6: the first quarter fourteen to ten with the score between

2054
01:45:18,479 --> 01:45:21,679
Speaker 6: the Buccaneers and the Raiders. Baker Mayfield with two touchdown passes.

2055
01:45:21,840 --> 01:45:24,639
Speaker 6: So the seer McCormick just I think its second NFL game,

2056
01:45:24,800 --> 01:45:25,200
Speaker 6: was called.

2057
01:45:25,120 --> 01:45:28,000
Speaker 7: Up from the practice squad just last month for the Raiders.

2058
01:45:28,000 --> 01:45:31,520
Speaker 6: He's got fifteen carries on seventy eight yards. Aidan O'Connell's

2059
01:45:31,560 --> 01:45:34,760
Speaker 6: the starter in this game. He was carted off. Desmond Ritter,

2060
01:45:34,920 --> 01:45:36,719
Speaker 6: your quarterback for Vegas Raiders.

2061
01:45:37,280 --> 01:45:39,479
Speaker 2: Back to you guys, all right, Martin, thank you very

2062
01:45:39,560 --> 01:45:42,479
Speaker 2: much once again. Red Zone Radio here, Steve Hartman and

2063
01:45:42,680 --> 01:45:45,680
Speaker 2: Rich Ornberger. All right, if the Vikings are knocking on

2064
01:45:45,760 --> 01:45:49,880
Speaker 2: the door right now, second and goal, and by that

2065
01:45:50,160 --> 01:45:53,680
Speaker 2: Falcons defense is playing top. There's a flag on the

2066
01:45:53,800 --> 01:45:56,519
Speaker 2: play on this second and goal. We'll see where the

2067
01:45:56,560 --> 01:45:59,840
Speaker 2: penalty is. But the Falcons are not about to concede

2068
01:46:00,600 --> 01:46:07,320
Speaker 2: this touchdown to this Vikings team. And meanwhile, we're actually

2069
01:46:07,479 --> 01:46:12,120
Speaker 2: inside two minutes to go here, the Titans have the ball,

2070
01:46:12,600 --> 01:46:17,520
Speaker 2: fourth down at the nine yard line of Jacksonville.

2071
01:46:17,640 --> 01:46:19,720
Speaker 1: We don't even have this game on anywhere here, but

2072
01:46:19,800 --> 01:46:22,200
Speaker 1: I mean, we're we're gonna come back. We have this

2073
01:46:22,280 --> 01:46:23,599
Speaker 1: game right down to the wire.

2074
01:46:23,640 --> 01:46:27,240
Speaker 2: A fourth and three at the Jacksonville nine with a

2075
01:46:27,280 --> 01:46:29,960
Speaker 2: minute twenty to go, the Titans trying to pull this

2076
01:46:30,040 --> 01:46:33,240
Speaker 2: game out. Will Levis is in and he just threw

2077
01:46:33,240 --> 01:46:35,600
Speaker 2: a pass incomplete.

2078
01:46:35,720 --> 01:46:37,920
Speaker 1: Yep, the Jaguars down.

2079
01:46:38,080 --> 01:46:39,519
Speaker 2: That's the Titans.

2080
01:46:39,560 --> 01:46:40,240
Speaker 3: That's how it goes.

2081
01:46:40,320 --> 01:46:42,800
Speaker 2: Well, that's not good for the Jaguars. Now, the Jaguars

2082
01:46:42,800 --> 01:46:45,920
Speaker 2: again one of those teams in the chase for worst

2083
01:46:46,040 --> 01:46:49,519
Speaker 2: record in the NFL. How do you feel about Doug

2084
01:46:49,560 --> 01:46:50,920
Speaker 2: peterson job security?

2085
01:46:51,880 --> 01:46:54,040
Speaker 4: Not great? I would say not great.

2086
01:46:55,280 --> 01:46:59,000
Speaker 1: Most likely they will be the destination for Travis Hunter.

2087
01:47:00,360 --> 01:47:03,439
Speaker 3: Correct, Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. So as

2088
01:47:03,439 --> 01:47:06,160
Speaker 3: it stands right now, they would they would be able

2089
01:47:06,160 --> 01:47:08,680
Speaker 3: to bring in the two way player from Colorado.

2090
01:47:08,720 --> 01:47:11,679
Speaker 2: WHOA you say two way player? All right, let's let's

2091
01:47:11,680 --> 01:47:13,479
Speaker 2: talk about that for a quick second here. I mean,

2092
01:47:13,520 --> 01:47:17,200
Speaker 2: what Travis Hunter has done this year obviously is heisman worthy.

2093
01:47:17,320 --> 01:47:19,519
Speaker 2: I mean, to me, you look at genty and him,

2094
01:47:19,520 --> 01:47:21,439
Speaker 2: both of that Heisman years. One of them is gonna

2095
01:47:21,479 --> 01:47:22,439
Speaker 2: win it, one won't.

2096
01:47:22,240 --> 01:47:25,960
Speaker 1: But both Disseri, what do you do with Travis Hunter

2097
01:47:26,000 --> 01:47:26,800
Speaker 1: at the next level?

2098
01:47:26,840 --> 01:47:28,479
Speaker 3: I mean, whatever Travis Hunter wants to.

2099
01:47:28,600 --> 01:47:30,840
Speaker 2: Well, you've seen sho hey Otani do something we never

2100
01:47:30,880 --> 01:47:34,800
Speaker 2: thought possible right at the major league baseball level. Is

2101
01:47:34,840 --> 01:47:39,240
Speaker 2: impossible in twenty twenty five next season for Travis Hunter

2102
01:47:39,360 --> 01:47:43,280
Speaker 2: to do anything remotely likely has done throughout his collegiate

2103
01:47:43,320 --> 01:47:44,720
Speaker 2: career playing both ways.

2104
01:47:44,800 --> 01:47:48,840
Speaker 3: It's possible, not likely. But we all said the same

2105
01:47:48,880 --> 01:47:51,160
Speaker 3: thing about Joe hey Otani. So I'll repeat what I

2106
01:47:51,280 --> 01:47:54,840
Speaker 3: just said. He's gonna do whatever Travis Hunter wants to

2107
01:47:54,880 --> 01:47:59,400
Speaker 3: do because in the NFL, look, the NFL essentially has

2108
01:47:59,640 --> 01:48:04,719
Speaker 3: more pull than any singular player. But any singular player

2109
01:48:04,920 --> 01:48:10,320
Speaker 3: can get a lot negotiated against any singular franchise because

2110
01:48:10,320 --> 01:48:12,040
Speaker 3: we've seen that time and time again. You know, I

2111
01:48:12,080 --> 01:48:13,800
Speaker 3: mean going back to the first hour of the show

2112
01:48:13,840 --> 01:48:18,280
Speaker 3: where we were relitigating Deshaun Watson's contract with the Cleveland

2113
01:48:18,280 --> 01:48:19,880
Speaker 3: Browns and the fact that they're going to have to

2114
01:48:19,920 --> 01:48:23,479
Speaker 3: eat that contract. Well, somebody was going to sign and

2115
01:48:23,560 --> 01:48:29,040
Speaker 3: trade for Deshaun Watson, somebody did, and Watson got exactly

2116
01:48:29,040 --> 01:48:32,280
Speaker 3: what he was looking for. You know, this is what

2117
01:48:32,400 --> 01:48:34,840
Speaker 3: it is in the NFL. All these owners are working

2118
01:48:34,880 --> 01:48:36,959
Speaker 3: together in some ways, but all of them are competing

2119
01:48:37,000 --> 01:48:39,880
Speaker 3: against each other in certain ways. So if Travis Hunter

2120
01:48:39,920 --> 01:48:41,920
Speaker 3: wants to be a two way player at the next level,

2121
01:48:42,320 --> 01:48:44,240
Speaker 3: guess what. He's going to be a two way player

2122
01:48:44,280 --> 01:48:47,200
Speaker 3: at the next level because he's too special to miss

2123
01:48:47,240 --> 01:48:49,280
Speaker 3: out on if you want his talent.

2124
01:48:49,400 --> 01:48:51,040
Speaker 4: And the seam went for show.

2125
01:48:51,080 --> 01:48:53,400
Speaker 3: Hey Otani, he said, I want to pitch and I

2126
01:48:53,439 --> 01:48:55,599
Speaker 3: want to hit, and a lot of teams went, well,

2127
01:48:55,640 --> 01:48:57,360
Speaker 3: we don't want you to hit, We just want you

2128
01:48:57,400 --> 01:48:59,960
Speaker 3: to pitch, and he went, well, then I'm not coming

2129
01:49:00,080 --> 01:49:03,439
Speaker 3: to your team. And so, even though there's a draft,

2130
01:49:03,479 --> 01:49:06,439
Speaker 3: even though players are supposed to go where they're slotted,

2131
01:49:06,920 --> 01:49:10,240
Speaker 3: if Travis Hunter wants to play both offense and defense,

2132
01:49:10,680 --> 01:49:12,600
Speaker 3: he will go to the team that allows him to

2133
01:49:12,640 --> 01:49:14,799
Speaker 3: do that. And there will be a team that allows

2134
01:49:14,880 --> 01:49:15,439
Speaker 3: him to do that.

2135
01:49:15,640 --> 01:49:18,840
Speaker 2: Sam Donald just threw his fifth touchdown pass once again

2136
01:49:18,880 --> 01:49:23,000
Speaker 2: to Jordan Addison, who has three touchdowns justin Jefferson as two.

2137
01:49:23,479 --> 01:49:25,880
Speaker 2: Sam Donald now twenty one to twenty seven, three hundred

2138
01:49:25,880 --> 01:49:29,559
Speaker 2: and twenty one yards, five touchdowns, nose picks not quite perfect,

2139
01:49:29,640 --> 01:49:32,799
Speaker 2: passer rating one fifty five one fifty eight is perfect,

2140
01:49:33,000 --> 01:49:35,320
Speaker 2: and the Vikings now lead the Falcons thirty five to

2141
01:49:35,360 --> 01:49:39,560
Speaker 2: twenty one. Meanwhile, the Buccaneers have just gotten a touchdown

2142
01:49:39,600 --> 01:49:43,320
Speaker 2: from White up the middle, so the Buccaneers increase their

2143
01:49:43,439 --> 01:49:44,840
Speaker 2: lead over the Raiders to.

2144
01:49:44,960 --> 01:49:46,120
Speaker 1: Twenty one to ten.

2145
01:49:46,720 --> 01:49:50,280
Speaker 2: Remember, if the Buccaneers win this game and the Falcons

2146
01:49:50,320 --> 01:49:54,559
Speaker 2: go down to defeat in Minnesota, the Buccaneers will take

2147
01:49:54,600 --> 01:49:58,120
Speaker 2: over first place in the NFC South. And this is

2148
01:49:58,120 --> 01:50:00,000
Speaker 2: a team, by the way, looking to make the playoff

2149
01:50:00,560 --> 01:50:02,519
Speaker 2: rich for the fifth and secutive year.

2150
01:50:03,240 --> 01:50:06,000
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, you know, you start going back and retracing

2151
01:50:06,040 --> 01:50:09,040
Speaker 3: the Buccaneers steps in terms of the decisions they've made.

2152
01:50:09,040 --> 01:50:13,280
Speaker 3: A quarterback Tom Brady followed by Baker Mayfield. Not bad

2153
01:50:13,439 --> 01:50:16,320
Speaker 3: win When the greatest of all time followed by a

2154
01:50:16,360 --> 01:50:18,120
Speaker 3: former first overall draft pick.

2155
01:50:18,240 --> 01:50:21,200
Speaker 2: Two guys with the chips on their shoulder, right, isn't

2156
01:50:21,200 --> 01:50:24,200
Speaker 2: that interesting? One guy was a sixth round pick, obvious

2157
01:50:24,320 --> 01:50:26,759
Speaker 2: chip on his shoulder that carry Brady throughout his career.

2158
01:50:26,960 --> 01:50:28,920
Speaker 2: Then you have a guy that was the first overall

2159
01:50:29,000 --> 01:50:30,360
Speaker 2: pick in the draft.

2160
01:50:30,240 --> 01:50:32,360
Speaker 12: And still with a chip on his shoulder if I

2161
01:50:32,479 --> 01:50:35,160
Speaker 12: may too as part of this game. I think I'm

2162
01:50:35,200 --> 01:50:40,000
Speaker 12: still on course for my Raiders prediction. Really, I I

2163
01:50:40,120 --> 01:50:42,360
Speaker 12: don't know how there were people buying the kool aid

2164
01:50:42,479 --> 01:50:44,400
Speaker 12: on this team to start the year.

2165
01:50:44,680 --> 01:50:46,920
Speaker 1: Well, a lot of people were talking about Antonio.

2166
01:50:46,920 --> 01:50:49,640
Speaker 2: Pierce said he was a coach, is you know players

2167
01:50:49,720 --> 01:50:54,599
Speaker 2: coach and the players wanted him and they'll respond to him.

2168
01:50:54,880 --> 01:50:58,720
Speaker 1: They start the year with no quarterback. Yeah, yeah, I

2169
01:50:58,720 --> 01:51:00,400
Speaker 1: mean about it.

2170
01:51:00,400 --> 01:51:00,719
Speaker 4: I mean.

2171
01:51:02,960 --> 01:51:06,960
Speaker 2: O'Connell not neither one of these guys is a legitimate

2172
01:51:07,000 --> 01:51:08,479
Speaker 2: starting quarterback in the NFL.

2173
01:51:08,840 --> 01:51:11,599
Speaker 12: No, that's a tough place to start. Condle, I think

2174
01:51:11,640 --> 01:51:14,000
Speaker 12: got carted off. I don't Who's who's on the field

2175
01:51:14,000 --> 01:51:14,800
Speaker 12: for them right now?

2176
01:51:15,760 --> 01:51:16,880
Speaker 1: Let's see right now?

2177
01:51:17,680 --> 01:51:21,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, the pride of the University of Cincinnati.

2178
01:51:21,320 --> 01:51:22,160
Speaker 8: Well that wasn't.

2179
01:51:25,120 --> 01:51:27,400
Speaker 12: Bo brought it up earlier. But like Brock, Bauers might

2180
01:51:27,439 --> 01:51:29,559
Speaker 12: be the best tight end in football right now.

2181
01:51:29,640 --> 01:51:32,559
Speaker 2: Don't remember we were talking about the Raiders possibly trying

2182
01:51:32,560 --> 01:51:35,439
Speaker 2: to convince Tom Brady to come out of retirement and

2183
01:51:35,560 --> 01:51:36,840
Speaker 2: be the quarterback of this team.

2184
01:51:37,000 --> 01:51:38,080
Speaker 9: I mean they could still do that.

2185
01:51:38,520 --> 01:51:39,400
Speaker 2: They could still do that.

2186
01:51:39,840 --> 01:51:41,879
Speaker 9: Get Tom Brady and Rich Hornberger back out there.

2187
01:51:41,920 --> 01:51:45,120
Speaker 3: You didn't right there, right there, it is right there. Well, Bo,

2188
01:51:45,320 --> 01:51:48,759
Speaker 3: you had the Raiders winning four games this season, Chris,

2189
01:51:49,080 --> 01:51:51,800
Speaker 3: you had the Raiders winning two games this season the

2190
01:51:51,880 --> 01:51:53,120
Speaker 3: tie Steve.

2191
01:51:52,960 --> 01:51:54,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, well I didn't put the ties.

2192
01:51:54,960 --> 01:51:58,240
Speaker 3: Yeah matter in Vegas, but Steve and I were at

2193
01:51:58,280 --> 01:51:59,280
Speaker 3: seven wins a piece.

2194
01:51:59,400 --> 01:52:03,240
Speaker 2: Wow, Yeah, I listened too much to you. Well, well,

2195
01:52:03,280 --> 01:52:03,880
Speaker 2: here's the thing.

2196
01:52:04,080 --> 01:52:06,439
Speaker 3: This is what I said. What can you really expect

2197
01:52:06,439 --> 01:52:09,320
Speaker 3: out of the Raiders? Not much because they don't have

2198
01:52:09,360 --> 01:52:12,400
Speaker 3: a quarterback. I guess mine was predicated on the fact

2199
01:52:12,439 --> 01:52:15,960
Speaker 3: that I thought maybe at some point before the kickoff

2200
01:52:16,000 --> 01:52:19,120
Speaker 3: of the season they would actually chase down a quarterback

2201
01:52:19,240 --> 01:52:22,360
Speaker 3: or at some point put somebody in that position.

2202
01:52:23,160 --> 01:52:23,759
Speaker 4: They didn't.

2203
01:52:24,040 --> 01:52:26,519
Speaker 3: They just rolled with what they had, and they are

2204
01:52:27,320 --> 01:52:29,840
Speaker 3: they are seeing the dividends that that pays when you

2205
01:52:29,880 --> 01:52:31,320
Speaker 3: are starting backup quarterbacks.

2206
01:52:31,320 --> 01:52:33,440
Speaker 1: Where's Jimmy Garoppolo. Where's Jimmy Garoppolo?

2207
01:52:33,840 --> 01:52:34,880
Speaker 3: Don't I don't know.

2208
01:52:35,120 --> 01:52:37,000
Speaker 4: I don't even know if he's on a roster right now.

2209
01:52:37,120 --> 01:52:39,160
Speaker 12: I just don't even feel like this defense is playing

2210
01:52:39,280 --> 01:52:41,880
Speaker 12: very hard right now. This is not a very hard

2211
01:52:41,960 --> 01:52:43,639
Speaker 12: nosed team on either side of the ball.

2212
01:52:43,720 --> 01:52:45,840
Speaker 2: They got a bullseye on Shade or Sanders is what

2213
01:52:45,880 --> 01:52:48,080
Speaker 2: they got right now? All right, we continue on here,

2214
01:52:48,120 --> 01:52:51,880
Speaker 2: which games we'll actually go down to the wire find out.

2215
01:52:51,960 --> 01:52:53,719
Speaker 1: Stay with us. This is Red Zone Radio.

2216
01:52:54,160 --> 01:52:57,120
Speaker 17: Jefferson in motion to the right, three receivers right, Sam

2217
01:52:57,200 --> 01:53:00,360
Speaker 17: Darnold out of the shot gun. Jones picks up a blitzer, right,

2218
01:53:00,479 --> 01:53:02,599
Speaker 17: caught Addison to the zone.

2219
01:53:03,000 --> 01:53:03,479
Speaker 9: Touchdown.

2220
01:53:06,479 --> 01:53:11,000
Speaker 17: Jordan Addison mixed it thirty four to twenty one. And

2221
01:53:11,160 --> 01:53:14,360
Speaker 17: for Sam Darnold, that's a high five.

2222
01:53:15,120 --> 01:53:16,280
Speaker 4: For the first time.

2223
01:53:16,080 --> 01:53:20,200
Speaker 17: In his career, he's thrown five touchdown passes in the game.

2224
01:53:20,840 --> 01:53:24,280
Speaker 2: That's k Fan one hundred point three FM. Vikings Radio Network,

2225
01:53:24,400 --> 01:53:29,280
Speaker 2: Vikings in control. They lead the Falcons thirty five twenty

2226
01:53:29,320 --> 01:53:31,800
Speaker 2: one inside six minutes ago in the fourth quarter. Once

2227
01:53:31,800 --> 01:53:35,480
Speaker 2: again Red Zone Radio here. We're live from the Tyraq

2228
01:53:35,600 --> 01:53:38,760
Speaker 2: dot Com studios. But Rich right now, our focus is

2229
01:53:38,800 --> 01:53:42,280
Speaker 2: on this Panthers Eagles game. They have just hit the

2230
01:53:42,280 --> 01:53:46,160
Speaker 2: two minute warning. Eagles lead the Panthers twenty two to sixteen.

2231
01:53:47,040 --> 01:53:50,440
Speaker 2: The Panthers started this final drive deep in their own territory,

2232
01:53:50,439 --> 01:53:54,400
Speaker 2: but Bryce Young is suddenly getting hot and they have

2233
01:53:54,439 --> 01:53:57,559
Speaker 2: a first down at their own forty six yard line.

2234
01:53:57,600 --> 01:53:59,719
Speaker 2: Of course, the side story in this game the three

2235
01:53:59,720 --> 01:54:03,519
Speaker 2: point one million dollar wager on the Eagles. But I'm

2236
01:54:03,560 --> 01:54:07,559
Speaker 2: just watching again, eyeball test here rich Bryce Young is

2237
01:54:07,560 --> 01:54:10,920
Speaker 2: getting that confidence back, the swagger that we saw.

2238
01:54:10,760 --> 01:54:12,160
Speaker 1: In his Alabama days.

2239
01:54:12,200 --> 01:54:14,479
Speaker 2: Now he has a short run there to the forty

2240
01:54:14,560 --> 01:54:16,960
Speaker 2: nine yard line. But you can just when a quarterback's

2241
01:54:16,960 --> 01:54:23,320
Speaker 2: got confidence, got that swagger, like I belong, that completely

2242
01:54:23,360 --> 01:54:25,800
Speaker 2: disappeared early in the season, which is one of the

2243
01:54:25,840 --> 01:54:28,960
Speaker 2: reasons that Andy Dalton was, you know, put in a quarterback.

2244
01:54:29,000 --> 01:54:31,320
Speaker 2: But all of a sudden, I'm watching the Bryce Young

2245
01:54:31,360 --> 01:54:34,280
Speaker 2: that I'm seeing right now starting to resemble the guy

2246
01:54:34,280 --> 01:54:36,280
Speaker 2: that won that Heisman Trophy at Alabama.

2247
01:54:36,440 --> 01:54:40,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, well, I think this is This is one

2248
01:54:40,280 --> 01:54:42,520
Speaker 3: of those things that we talked about in the NFL

2249
01:54:42,680 --> 01:54:46,080
Speaker 3: any given Sunday, and it's because even bad teams have

2250
01:54:46,200 --> 01:54:50,400
Speaker 3: good players. And we touched on this earlier how difficult

2251
01:54:50,480 --> 01:54:52,680
Speaker 3: it is to be a really bad team in this league.

2252
01:54:53,040 --> 01:54:55,160
Speaker 3: It is really difficult to be a really bad team

2253
01:54:55,160 --> 01:54:58,920
Speaker 3: in this league because you still are surrounded by the

2254
01:54:58,960 --> 01:55:02,200
Speaker 3: best college talent in college football who's now played at

2255
01:55:02,240 --> 01:55:04,880
Speaker 3: the NFL level for years, either at a pro bowl

2256
01:55:04,960 --> 01:55:08,640
Speaker 3: level or starting level. Seen field experience, and maybe they

2257
01:55:08,680 --> 01:55:10,560
Speaker 3: are just things that are out of sync from the

2258
01:55:10,560 --> 01:55:14,360
Speaker 3: coaching standpoint or on the field from a personnel standpoint,

2259
01:55:14,400 --> 01:55:16,760
Speaker 3: that haven't worked out for you. But that's the reason

2260
01:55:16,800 --> 01:55:19,520
Speaker 3: why teams like the Eagles, who are talented, if a

2261
01:55:19,640 --> 01:55:22,920
Speaker 3: roster as they are, could potentially lose to a team

2262
01:55:23,360 --> 01:55:24,720
Speaker 3: like the lowly Panthers.

2263
01:55:24,760 --> 01:55:28,280
Speaker 2: All right now, the deep pass on third and seven

2264
01:55:28,440 --> 01:55:33,480
Speaker 2: is incomplete. So now fourth and seven for the Panthers

2265
01:55:33,600 --> 01:55:36,160
Speaker 2: game on the line. Right now, they're own forty nine

2266
01:55:36,240 --> 01:55:38,720
Speaker 2: yard line. They decided to go for a deep pass,

2267
01:55:39,040 --> 01:55:42,440
Speaker 2: double coverage by the Eagles, and that was it. Bo,

2268
01:55:42,560 --> 01:55:44,600
Speaker 2: How you feeling right now about the Eagles? They're going

2269
01:55:44,600 --> 01:55:47,560
Speaker 2: to hold on here? Bo does not want to answer.

2270
01:55:47,560 --> 01:55:49,880
Speaker 2: He's just sitting there watching right now. He's not even

2271
01:55:49,920 --> 01:55:53,200
Speaker 2: gonna move. He is terrified at the possibilities right now?

2272
01:55:53,200 --> 01:55:53,960
Speaker 2: Are you terrified?

2273
01:55:53,960 --> 01:55:54,040
Speaker 11: Now?

2274
01:55:54,320 --> 01:55:56,560
Speaker 9: I'm watching see if Sam Darnald can get to six

2275
01:55:56,640 --> 01:55:57,040
Speaker 9: today on you?

2276
01:55:57,120 --> 01:55:57,400
Speaker 4: All right?

2277
01:55:57,440 --> 01:55:59,200
Speaker 2: So he's not even watching the Eagles game?

2278
01:55:59,280 --> 01:56:00,040
Speaker 4: Sure a.

2279
01:56:00,120 --> 01:56:02,880
Speaker 2: Right here we go, fourth and seven, last shot here

2280
01:56:02,880 --> 01:56:05,320
Speaker 2: for the Panthers, trying to keep this alive, and the

2281
01:56:05,360 --> 01:56:10,360
Speaker 2: pass is complete. Down Whoa and thieland right there on

2282
01:56:10,400 --> 01:56:14,080
Speaker 2: the completion, great pass Bryce Young had he had to

2283
01:56:14,080 --> 01:56:17,240
Speaker 2: be feeling the pressure and right before he got hit

2284
01:56:17,360 --> 01:56:20,560
Speaker 2: released the ball. So a minute six, minute five, the

2285
01:56:20,680 --> 01:56:24,960
Speaker 2: clock is running right now. The Panthers have no timeouts left,

2286
01:56:25,360 --> 01:56:28,040
Speaker 2: so we're inside a minute ago. First down, they're at

2287
01:56:28,120 --> 01:56:30,920
Speaker 2: the thirty six yard line of the viky of the

2288
01:56:30,960 --> 01:56:34,920
Speaker 2: Eagles and a pass to the sideline out of bounds complete.

2289
01:56:35,280 --> 01:56:38,000
Speaker 2: All right, So they gonna have a second down right

2290
01:56:38,120 --> 01:56:41,680
Speaker 2: now about the thirty two yard line. Rich fifty two

2291
01:56:41,800 --> 01:56:44,000
Speaker 2: seconds left and no timeouts.

2292
01:56:44,040 --> 01:56:46,320
Speaker 3: You have no chance to kick the field goal here.

2293
01:56:46,520 --> 01:56:49,320
Speaker 3: They're trailing by six, need the score, need the extra

2294
01:56:49,400 --> 01:56:52,200
Speaker 3: point to win the game. Can you imagine if somehow

2295
01:56:52,240 --> 01:56:54,760
Speaker 3: this extra point is missed or blocked and then we

2296
01:56:54,880 --> 01:56:57,600
Speaker 3: go back to the off sides on the Eagles extra

2297
01:56:57,640 --> 01:57:01,760
Speaker 3: point attempt where they missed it, but there was an

2298
01:57:01,800 --> 01:57:05,160
Speaker 3: off sides and then the Eagles got to go for two.

2299
01:57:05,880 --> 01:57:08,560
Speaker 3: And if the Panthers missed the extra point in their

2300
01:57:10,480 --> 01:57:15,280
Speaker 3: in their ensuing of point after touchdown, try, that's how

2301
01:57:15,320 --> 01:57:15,680
Speaker 3: this game?

2302
01:57:16,000 --> 01:57:19,160
Speaker 1: Touch that no down on what yard line for the Panthers.

2303
01:57:19,200 --> 01:57:22,160
Speaker 2: Oh way, Panthers, Wow, unbelievable.

2304
01:57:22,440 --> 01:57:24,000
Speaker 1: Oh they're calling it incomplete.

2305
01:57:25,120 --> 01:57:29,360
Speaker 4: Wow, maybe he didn't catch whoa, what the heck?

2306
01:57:29,760 --> 01:57:33,920
Speaker 2: He didn't catch the ball? They're calling it incomplete. Let's

2307
01:57:33,920 --> 01:57:36,520
Speaker 2: watch the replay here, look at right here, watch this.

2308
01:57:36,680 --> 01:57:41,000
Speaker 2: He comes up, he goes on he oh that ball

2309
01:57:41,080 --> 01:57:45,800
Speaker 2: hit the ground. Oh wow wow. Because we had the

2310
01:57:45,840 --> 01:57:48,240
Speaker 2: back angle, you couldn't see it. But yeah, the ball

2311
01:57:48,320 --> 01:57:48,880
Speaker 2: hit the ground.

2312
01:57:48,960 --> 01:57:51,640
Speaker 3: Well yeah, skin, all right, so right there, all right,

2313
01:57:51,760 --> 01:57:54,680
Speaker 3: So back to the philopsia twenty two we go, all.

2314
01:57:54,640 --> 01:57:55,880
Speaker 1: Right, thirty two yard line.

2315
01:57:55,920 --> 01:57:58,560
Speaker 2: Actually, so the Eagles third and four now for the

2316
01:57:58,600 --> 01:58:02,040
Speaker 2: Panthers at the Eagles thirty two yard line. There's forty

2317
01:58:02,080 --> 01:58:05,520
Speaker 2: four seconds ago. Again, the Panthers have no timeouts, so

2318
01:58:05,560 --> 01:58:06,120
Speaker 2: you gotta.

2319
01:58:05,960 --> 01:58:07,680
Speaker 8: Be care time out on the challenge.

2320
01:58:07,920 --> 01:58:10,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, it came back to all right, here we go.

2321
01:58:10,160 --> 01:58:13,120
Speaker 2: Bryce Young is going to scramble, trying to find some space.

2322
01:58:13,160 --> 01:58:16,520
Speaker 2: He's looking, he's looking. He's throwing out of bounds. All right,

2323
01:58:16,560 --> 01:58:19,240
Speaker 2: So that's gonna step fourth and four. Now, we got

2324
01:58:19,280 --> 01:58:23,400
Speaker 2: thirty seven seconds left. Obviously they need at least four

2325
01:58:23,520 --> 01:58:28,000
Speaker 2: yards to keep this drive alive. Some excitement here, yeah, buddy,

2326
01:58:28,800 --> 01:58:31,840
Speaker 2: Bryce Young one hundred ninety one yards passing. But you

2327
01:58:31,880 --> 01:58:34,800
Speaker 2: can see he's taking control of this team right now.

2328
01:58:34,880 --> 01:58:37,520
Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, and also, you know, just a quick storyline

2329
01:58:37,560 --> 01:58:41,080
Speaker 3: here about the Panthers. They've given up a league leading

2330
01:58:41,280 --> 01:58:44,160
Speaker 3: over one hundred and sixty yards on the ground per game.

2331
01:58:44,280 --> 01:58:46,600
Speaker 1: Yeah in Barkley, one hundred and twenty four yards today.

2332
01:58:46,720 --> 01:58:49,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, overall, the Eagles have rushed it for two hundred

2333
01:58:49,440 --> 01:58:51,960
Speaker 3: and ten yards. It it felt like they were throwing

2334
01:58:52,000 --> 01:58:54,480
Speaker 3: the football to keep the Panthers honest at times.

2335
01:58:54,560 --> 01:58:56,480
Speaker 1: All Right, here we go, Rich, run the ball.

2336
01:58:56,680 --> 01:58:59,600
Speaker 2: Okay, here we go fourth and four for the Panthers,

2337
01:58:59,640 --> 01:59:04,320
Speaker 2: and there is a penalty and it is what illegal

2338
01:59:04,360 --> 01:59:08,880
Speaker 2: forty delay game? It is delay of game? Geez, are

2339
01:59:08,880 --> 01:59:09,640
Speaker 2: you kidding me?

2340
01:59:10,160 --> 01:59:12,960
Speaker 1: How do you have a delay of game? Four?

2341
01:59:13,640 --> 01:59:16,480
Speaker 3: You asked the question, how do you lose this many

2342
01:59:16,520 --> 01:59:17,960
Speaker 3: games during the course of his season?

2343
01:59:19,640 --> 01:59:21,920
Speaker 2: Snapped the ball, snapped the ball, snapped the ball in

2344
01:59:21,960 --> 01:59:23,200
Speaker 2: the centers, just holding the ball.

2345
01:59:23,480 --> 01:59:23,879
Speaker 4: Awful?

2346
01:59:24,240 --> 01:59:25,480
Speaker 1: Oh geez.

2347
01:59:26,000 --> 01:59:28,920
Speaker 2: All right, So and we're up against said, well, what's

2348
01:59:28,960 --> 01:59:32,200
Speaker 2: gonna happen in this Panthers Eagles game? What other games

2349
01:59:32,200 --> 01:59:35,200
Speaker 2: are going to go down to the wire. We're keeping

2350
01:59:35,240 --> 01:59:38,280
Speaker 2: an eye on things. This is Red Zone Radio.

2351
01:59:39,240 --> 01:59:42,320
Speaker 5: Two out of the shot, the fourth and goal det

2352
01:59:42,400 --> 01:59:45,160
Speaker 5: showing Blitz coming back to throw gets it off.

2353
01:59:44,920 --> 01:59:47,440
Speaker 1: And it's car tyreek Hill.

2354
01:59:48,320 --> 01:59:52,280
Speaker 2: That's Fox Sports nine forty Dolphins Radio network. The Dolphins

2355
01:59:52,320 --> 01:59:55,440
Speaker 2: would add a two point conversion. That is the game

2356
01:59:55,480 --> 01:59:58,560
Speaker 2: going on right now. Jets Dolphins tied to twenty three,

2357
01:59:58,960 --> 02:00:01,080
Speaker 2: three thirty nine in the fourth quarter.

2358
02:00:01,200 --> 02:00:03,040
Speaker 1: In that game, this is Red Zone Radio.

2359
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Speaker 2: The waight tire buying should be. So the Panthers right

2364
02:00:18,120 --> 02:00:21,600
Speaker 2: before we you know, had to leave you. I had

2365
02:00:21,600 --> 02:00:25,120
Speaker 2: that fourth down play. Bryce Young made a nice scramble

2366
02:00:25,160 --> 02:00:28,880
Speaker 2: to avoid a sack, threw across ball, was knocked down

2367
02:00:29,080 --> 02:00:32,840
Speaker 2: incomplete and the Eagles escape, meaning that guy that bet

2368
02:00:32,840 --> 02:00:35,800
Speaker 2: three point one million dollars ends up a winner.

2369
02:00:36,560 --> 02:00:39,000
Speaker 1: And uh yeah, so he's a hell of.

2370
02:00:39,040 --> 02:00:39,840
Speaker 3: A sweat though.

2371
02:00:40,000 --> 02:00:41,280
Speaker 1: That's a sweat right there.

2372
02:00:42,000 --> 02:00:44,480
Speaker 2: You know, you feel like the Panthers are making progress,

2373
02:00:44,480 --> 02:00:47,520
Speaker 2: but again not able to make the play on fourth down.

2374
02:00:47,600 --> 02:00:50,520
Speaker 2: So the Eagles survived to go to eleven and two.

2375
02:00:50,840 --> 02:00:53,400
Speaker 2: All right, so this game going on between the Dolphins

2376
02:00:53,400 --> 02:00:57,520
Speaker 2: and Jets here again, nothing on the line really, I mean,

2377
02:00:57,560 --> 02:01:00,640
Speaker 2: the Dolphins, I guess, have faint hopes of alive in

2378
02:01:00,680 --> 02:01:03,520
Speaker 2: the playoff chase. It's a matter of pride for the

2379
02:01:03,600 --> 02:01:06,560
Speaker 2: Jets right now. And this, to me is an interesting play.

2380
02:01:06,600 --> 02:01:06,840
Speaker 4: Here.

2381
02:01:07,360 --> 02:01:10,520
Speaker 2: You got Aaron Rodgers trying to somehow, I don't know,

2382
02:01:11,160 --> 02:01:14,320
Speaker 2: justify his intent to play another year in the NFL.

2383
02:01:14,880 --> 02:01:16,040
Speaker 1: One way to do it.

2384
02:01:15,920 --> 02:01:18,200
Speaker 2: Is a game winning drive late in the game on

2385
02:01:18,240 --> 02:01:20,920
Speaker 2: the road against the Miami Dolphins. Right now, he has

2386
02:01:20,960 --> 02:01:25,080
Speaker 2: a third and one at the Jets thirty seven yard line.

2387
02:01:25,600 --> 02:01:28,640
Speaker 1: So from that standpoint, Rich, at least we got something

2388
02:01:28,920 --> 02:01:29,560
Speaker 1: that matters.

2389
02:01:29,920 --> 02:01:31,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, we definitely do.

2390
02:01:32,440 --> 02:01:35,640
Speaker 2: I mean every game obviously matters in the NFL, but

2391
02:01:35,680 --> 02:01:38,480
Speaker 2: I mean maybe a little bit more that Aaron Rodgers

2392
02:01:38,480 --> 02:01:40,840
Speaker 2: still can get it done, especially on the road against

2393
02:01:40,840 --> 02:01:41,680
Speaker 2: a division rival.

2394
02:01:41,760 --> 02:01:45,320
Speaker 3: I agree, I listen, I don't think there are many

2395
02:01:46,560 --> 02:01:50,280
Speaker 3: moral victories in the NFL. No, but amid a loss

2396
02:01:50,320 --> 02:01:55,560
Speaker 3: season with an aging quarterback who has one more year

2397
02:01:55,680 --> 02:01:59,480
Speaker 3: under contract with your team, if through the final five

2398
02:01:59,600 --> 02:02:02,760
Speaker 3: games of the season he really impresses you.

2399
02:02:03,000 --> 02:02:05,040
Speaker 2: Did you see what they just did on third and one,

2400
02:02:06,000 --> 02:02:09,920
Speaker 2: they yanked Rogers out of the game. Oh my gosh,

2401
02:02:09,960 --> 02:02:12,440
Speaker 2: and they had Allan on a keeper.

2402
02:02:12,480 --> 02:02:13,920
Speaker 1: He got the first down, bottle way.

2403
02:02:14,040 --> 02:02:16,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, that explains the time out, by the way, So.

2404
02:02:16,920 --> 02:02:20,120
Speaker 2: They actually yanked Rogers hat of the game on third

2405
02:02:20,160 --> 02:02:22,840
Speaker 2: and one. It was a direct snap run. It worked,

2406
02:02:22,840 --> 02:02:24,960
Speaker 2: they got a first down. So Rogers coming back in

2407
02:02:25,000 --> 02:02:25,360
Speaker 2: the game.

2408
02:02:25,560 --> 02:02:28,680
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, yeah, Alan, who, by the way, is their

2409
02:02:28,720 --> 02:02:32,240
Speaker 3: young running back they're excited about. Yeah, goes ahead and

2410
02:02:32,600 --> 02:02:36,880
Speaker 3: runs the wildcat offense, and I look it's smart again,

2411
02:02:37,000 --> 02:02:38,839
Speaker 3: kind of down the stretch of a lost season.

2412
02:02:39,280 --> 02:02:40,720
Speaker 4: Do you really want to that's.

2413
02:02:40,560 --> 02:02:44,400
Speaker 2: A big play right there across midfield. Nice pass, quick

2414
02:02:44,480 --> 02:02:47,040
Speaker 2: release by Rogers. I mean that was classic Aaron Rodgers

2415
02:02:47,080 --> 02:02:50,480
Speaker 2: right there. So the Jets happening obviously as we got

2416
02:02:50,480 --> 02:02:53,280
Speaker 2: to the two minute warning, try to get themselves in

2417
02:02:53,320 --> 02:02:54,760
Speaker 2: the field goal position.

2418
02:02:54,440 --> 02:02:55,920
Speaker 4: Here it's it.

2419
02:02:56,000 --> 02:03:00,240
Speaker 3: Well, look, I do think that if they again, is

2420
02:03:00,280 --> 02:03:03,160
Speaker 3: it a moral victory? Yeah, because at the end of

2421
02:03:03,240 --> 02:03:05,480
Speaker 3: the season, will it really matter much if they're an

2422
02:03:05,520 --> 02:03:07,680
Speaker 3: eight win team or a six win team, or a

2423
02:03:07,720 --> 02:03:10,520
Speaker 3: three win team for that matter, if they missed the postseason?

2424
02:03:10,960 --> 02:03:13,880
Speaker 4: Not really? I mean, in fact, it may hurt your

2425
02:03:13,960 --> 02:03:14,960
Speaker 4: draft stock the.

2426
02:03:14,800 --> 02:03:18,080
Speaker 3: More wins you have, but I will say this, if

2427
02:03:18,160 --> 02:03:21,280
Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers looks great in the final five games of

2428
02:03:21,320 --> 02:03:25,040
Speaker 3: the season, it bodes extremely well for what you're looking

2429
02:03:25,080 --> 02:03:28,440
Speaker 3: forward to next year, because momentum is a thing, and

2430
02:03:28,520 --> 02:03:32,520
Speaker 3: sometimes even season overseason, the way you finish off one

2431
02:03:32,600 --> 02:03:35,240
Speaker 3: season and the way you start the next they can

2432
02:03:35,400 --> 02:03:39,520
Speaker 3: have a correlation. And so I think the Jets front office,

2433
02:03:39,680 --> 02:03:43,640
Speaker 3: coaching staff, anybody who's going to be there as holdovers

2434
02:03:43,720 --> 02:03:46,520
Speaker 3: next season who are there now are hoping that Aaron

2435
02:03:46,600 --> 02:03:50,000
Speaker 3: Rodgers performs extremely well here because it'll solve a lot

2436
02:03:50,040 --> 02:03:51,800
Speaker 3: of their questions heading into the offseason.

2437
02:03:51,840 --> 02:03:54,600
Speaker 2: All Right, A couple things happening right now. The Giant

2438
02:03:54,840 --> 02:03:57,720
Speaker 2: Saints is a game we've talked very little about for

2439
02:03:57,760 --> 02:04:01,680
Speaker 2: good reason. They've hit the two warning. The Giants have

2440
02:04:01,760 --> 02:04:05,480
Speaker 2: the ball, trailing the Saints fourteen to eleven. They have

2441
02:04:05,520 --> 02:04:08,200
Speaker 2: a third to nine at their own thirty eight yard line.

2442
02:04:08,280 --> 02:04:11,120
Speaker 2: Drew Locke has been at quarterback for the Giants, and

2443
02:04:11,320 --> 02:04:14,560
Speaker 2: it has been a rough day. Nineteen or thirty nine

2444
02:04:14,720 --> 02:04:16,920
Speaker 2: pass it. It was a little worse later earlier in

2445
02:04:16,960 --> 02:04:21,440
Speaker 2: the game. But what's significant here is again the battle

2446
02:04:21,440 --> 02:04:24,680
Speaker 2: between the Giants and the Raiders for Shador Sanders.

2447
02:04:24,720 --> 02:04:26,000
Speaker 1: The Raiders have lost.

2448
02:04:26,480 --> 02:04:29,720
Speaker 2: They lost to the Buccaneers twenty eight to thirteen.

2449
02:04:29,760 --> 02:04:30,400
Speaker 1: Buccaneers.

2450
02:04:30,440 --> 02:04:33,320
Speaker 2: Now we'll have a sole possession of first place in

2451
02:04:33,360 --> 02:04:36,840
Speaker 2: the NFC South with Atlanta going down to Minnesota. That

2452
02:04:36,920 --> 02:04:38,880
Speaker 2: game is all but over right now. But the Raiders

2453
02:04:38,880 --> 02:04:42,880
Speaker 2: at two and eleven, Giants at two and ten. If

2454
02:04:42,920 --> 02:04:46,240
Speaker 2: the Giants come back to win this game, then the

2455
02:04:46,360 --> 02:04:50,400
Speaker 2: Raiders are in the driver's seat to get Shador Sanders

2456
02:04:50,440 --> 02:04:55,320
Speaker 2: and as we both think, possibly Dion Sanders as their

2457
02:04:55,440 --> 02:04:56,720
Speaker 2: next coach.

2458
02:04:56,840 --> 02:05:00,320
Speaker 3: I think that this is the time of year where

2459
02:05:00,360 --> 02:05:06,960
Speaker 3: you absolutely see certain teams, especially when there are front

2460
02:05:07,000 --> 02:05:09,840
Speaker 3: office people who will be carried over from year to year.

2461
02:05:11,240 --> 02:05:15,200
Speaker 4: You'll you'll see edicts sent sent down and sometimes not.

2462
02:05:15,400 --> 02:05:19,760
Speaker 3: Sometimes owners will will sort of reinforce losing. You know,

2463
02:05:19,800 --> 02:05:21,920
Speaker 3: we where was the last time we heard about that?

2464
02:05:22,080 --> 02:05:26,440
Speaker 3: Was that Flores down in Miami where he was promised

2465
02:05:26,560 --> 02:05:30,920
Speaker 3: allegedly one hundred thousand dollars per loss. You know things

2466
02:05:31,000 --> 02:05:31,320
Speaker 3: like that.

2467
02:05:31,400 --> 02:05:34,040
Speaker 2: I still have a hard time believing that. Well, listen,

2468
02:05:34,080 --> 02:05:38,480
Speaker 2: I mean it came from one source. It was an allegation. Yeah,

2469
02:05:38,560 --> 02:05:42,720
Speaker 2: and I and let me ask you this. It's hard

2470
02:05:42,760 --> 02:05:44,840
Speaker 2: to believe, but would you put it outside the room.

2471
02:05:44,880 --> 02:05:48,120
Speaker 2: I'm not saying anything as possible. Yeah, anything is possible,

2472
02:05:48,160 --> 02:05:51,160
Speaker 2: by the way, Jets just with a big play right there. Wow,

2473
02:05:51,280 --> 02:05:56,360
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers is absolutely unstoppable right now, and now they

2474
02:05:56,400 --> 02:06:00,440
Speaker 2: are clearly in field goal position.

2475
02:06:00,480 --> 02:06:01,400
Speaker 1: Is that Lazard right now?

2476
02:06:01,440 --> 02:06:04,120
Speaker 3: That was lazard all the way down to the Miami

2477
02:06:04,320 --> 02:06:05,680
Speaker 3: twenty seven?

2478
02:06:06,080 --> 02:06:09,360
Speaker 2: Yes, there it is. So now the Jets with the

2479
02:06:09,440 --> 02:06:13,760
Speaker 2: ball and in. I mean, if you're the Jets right now,

2480
02:06:15,280 --> 02:06:17,080
Speaker 2: I'm trying to figure out. I haven't seen how many

2481
02:06:17,160 --> 02:06:20,320
Speaker 2: timeouts the Dolphins have. They've got two left, all right,

2482
02:06:20,400 --> 02:06:23,200
Speaker 2: So you're gonna run the clock down as far as

2483
02:06:23,200 --> 02:06:26,400
Speaker 2: you can to go for the field goal? Or do

2484
02:06:26,440 --> 02:06:28,360
Speaker 2: you try to get in the end zone here? I mean,

2485
02:06:28,440 --> 02:06:30,800
Speaker 2: let's see what they're gonna do. On first down. They're

2486
02:06:30,840 --> 02:06:34,800
Speaker 2: going to lose yards. In fact, they lose five yards.

2487
02:06:35,200 --> 02:06:36,600
Speaker 1: On a horrific call.

2488
02:06:37,400 --> 02:06:38,040
Speaker 4: What was that?

2489
02:06:38,200 --> 02:06:41,040
Speaker 2: I mean, I just I sometimes the play calling this

2490
02:06:41,160 --> 02:06:44,200
Speaker 2: league makes absolutely no sense. It was like a sort

2491
02:06:44,240 --> 02:06:47,240
Speaker 2: of a pitch in the backfield and it goes for

2492
02:06:47,320 --> 02:06:50,920
Speaker 2: a five yard loss. So you're trying to get yourself

2493
02:06:50,960 --> 02:06:54,760
Speaker 2: in prime field goal position. And losing five yards at

2494
02:06:54,760 --> 02:06:56,680
Speaker 2: that spot is not a good call.

2495
02:06:57,680 --> 02:06:59,960
Speaker 3: The funny thing about this game is, while we're focused

2496
02:07:00,120 --> 02:07:03,120
Speaker 3: on the Jets, because they're looking to win this game

2497
02:07:03,200 --> 02:07:06,280
Speaker 3: right now in their final drive, we assume when you

2498
02:07:06,320 --> 02:07:10,000
Speaker 3: think about the Dolphins, we were talking about this earlier,

2499
02:07:10,080 --> 02:07:15,000
Speaker 3: that loss to the Packers. I mean, they were going

2500
02:07:15,040 --> 02:07:19,520
Speaker 3: to potentially run into the Jets, get an easy win

2501
02:07:19,640 --> 02:07:23,480
Speaker 3: here quote unquote easy win here, and then sort of

2502
02:07:24,040 --> 02:07:27,240
Speaker 3: resemble the team late last year who was able to

2503
02:07:27,240 --> 02:07:31,120
Speaker 3: put some things together. They've squandered that opportunity already with

2504
02:07:31,200 --> 02:07:32,200
Speaker 3: the loss of the Packers.

2505
02:07:32,200 --> 02:07:34,280
Speaker 4: If they lose to the Jets, that's curtains.

2506
02:07:34,400 --> 02:07:38,400
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers just got sacked for a six yard loss.

2507
02:07:38,640 --> 02:07:40,840
Speaker 1: So the first out.

2508
02:07:40,720 --> 02:07:42,000
Speaker 4: At the twenty seven.

2509
02:07:42,840 --> 02:07:45,520
Speaker 2: Now they have a third down at the thirty eight,

2510
02:07:46,000 --> 02:07:47,240
Speaker 2: third and twenty one.

2511
02:07:47,480 --> 02:07:48,480
Speaker 1: Another blow.

2512
02:07:48,600 --> 02:07:53,040
Speaker 3: This another interesting stat You know that over the course

2513
02:07:53,040 --> 02:07:56,400
Speaker 3: of his tenure, Tua has never lost to the Jets.

2514
02:07:57,240 --> 02:07:59,800
Speaker 3: Tua's been with the Dolphins for a pretty good luck stretch.

2515
02:08:00,200 --> 02:08:02,080
Speaker 3: Ti I mean, how did that to the Jets?

2516
02:08:02,120 --> 02:08:04,960
Speaker 2: Were talking again, how great teams find a way to

2517
02:08:05,000 --> 02:08:07,640
Speaker 2: win like the Chiefs like all year long, right, Chiefs suck,

2518
02:08:07,720 --> 02:08:10,200
Speaker 2: But somehow they win every game bad teams find.

2519
02:08:10,240 --> 02:08:12,920
Speaker 1: The Jets really have found ways to lose games this year.

2520
02:08:13,240 --> 02:08:15,600
Speaker 2: But all of a sudden, what would have been about

2521
02:08:15,640 --> 02:08:18,160
Speaker 2: a forty four yard field goal is now a fifty

2522
02:08:18,160 --> 02:08:23,480
Speaker 2: five yard field goal. So third and twenty one for

2523
02:08:23,520 --> 02:08:26,680
Speaker 2: the Jets, who lose eleven yards on two plays. How

2524
02:08:26,720 --> 02:08:30,200
Speaker 2: does Aaron Rodgers, a veteran quarterback, eat it on a

2525
02:08:30,400 --> 02:08:32,760
Speaker 2: sack and not find a way to throw the ball

2526
02:08:32,760 --> 02:08:35,320
Speaker 2: away there beyond me? All right, So here we go.

2527
02:08:35,400 --> 02:08:38,920
Speaker 2: We have now got a minute two to go. Miami's

2528
02:08:39,000 --> 02:08:42,560
Speaker 2: out of timeouts. Jets have one time out and Rogers

2529
02:08:42,560 --> 02:08:44,480
Speaker 2: got to get some yards here, and he throws the

2530
02:08:44,520 --> 02:08:48,160
Speaker 2: sideline pass complete, so that will get it down to

2531
02:08:48,520 --> 02:08:53,000
Speaker 2: the thirty Where is that twenty four yard line? So

2532
02:08:53,000 --> 02:08:55,760
Speaker 2: that was a pretty good pass play right there, but

2533
02:08:55,920 --> 02:08:57,320
Speaker 2: still fourth and seven.

2534
02:08:57,440 --> 02:08:59,120
Speaker 1: So here comes the kicker right now?

2535
02:09:00,280 --> 02:09:01,320
Speaker 4: Man, do you want to hear another?

2536
02:09:01,640 --> 02:09:04,840
Speaker 1: Actually that ball is uh yeah, go ahead, Rogers.

2537
02:09:04,920 --> 02:09:08,880
Speaker 3: He has now snapped an active streak of thirty four

2538
02:09:08,960 --> 02:09:12,280
Speaker 3: consecutive starts with fewer than three hundred passing yards.

2539
02:09:12,360 --> 02:09:16,240
Speaker 2: Wow, all right here Anders Carlson is on for a

2540
02:09:16,280 --> 02:09:19,600
Speaker 2: field goal to give the Jets the lead. There's fifty

2541
02:09:19,680 --> 02:09:22,640
Speaker 2: six seconds left, so even if he makes this, there

2542
02:09:22,640 --> 02:09:24,920
Speaker 2: will be time for two and the Dolphins.

2543
02:09:24,920 --> 02:09:27,040
Speaker 1: The kick is up and it is good right down

2544
02:09:27,040 --> 02:09:27,480
Speaker 1: the middle.

2545
02:09:27,960 --> 02:09:30,120
Speaker 2: So the Jets take the lead on a forty two

2546
02:09:30,200 --> 02:09:34,040
Speaker 2: yard field goal twenty six to twenty three, fifty two

2547
02:09:34,200 --> 02:09:38,880
Speaker 2: seconds left. Can the Jets hang on? Are they gonna

2548
02:09:38,880 --> 02:09:40,920
Speaker 2: find a way to lose another game? I mean, I

2549
02:09:41,040 --> 02:09:43,520
Speaker 2: just like I said, tu has never lost the game

2550
02:09:43,600 --> 02:09:44,280
Speaker 2: to the Jets.

2551
02:09:44,520 --> 02:09:46,720
Speaker 1: All Right, we'll we'll, we'll be back. Should we stay

2552
02:09:46,760 --> 02:09:47,120
Speaker 1: here with this?

2553
02:09:47,320 --> 02:09:47,640
Speaker 3: Or what do you?

2554
02:09:47,680 --> 02:09:49,200
Speaker 4: What are you do? But ball? What do you think?

2555
02:09:49,280 --> 02:09:50,680
Speaker 4: Who listen? I mean, I don't.

2556
02:09:50,480 --> 02:09:53,080
Speaker 2: Okay, we're gonna We're gonna all right, See they aren't

2557
02:09:53,120 --> 02:09:55,440
Speaker 2: believe me. They a lot of people will continue on.

2558
02:09:55,640 --> 02:09:57,680
Speaker 2: We'll have the latest. This is red Zone Radio.

2559
02:09:58,320 --> 02:10:01,240
Speaker 19: Mury takes the snap play boot to the right, Murray

2560
02:10:01,280 --> 02:10:04,520
Speaker 19: setting up deepault far side, and it's caught by Wilson

2561
02:10:04,560 --> 02:10:08,000
Speaker 19: at the five, stretching out head into the ends up

2562
02:10:08,040 --> 02:10:11,440
Speaker 19: for the touchdown. There it is the deep shot we've

2563
02:10:11,440 --> 02:10:15,280
Speaker 19: been waiting for. A forty one yard touchdown pass Bury

2564
02:10:15,400 --> 02:10:15,960
Speaker 19: to Wilson.

2565
02:10:16,520 --> 02:10:19,600
Speaker 2: That's Arizona Sports ninety eight to seven. The Cardinals take

2566
02:10:19,640 --> 02:10:22,120
Speaker 2: an early seven eh in lead in their NFC West

2567
02:10:22,160 --> 02:10:26,000
Speaker 2: showdown against the Seattle Seahawks. Red Zone Radio here Steve

2568
02:10:26,000 --> 02:10:28,680
Speaker 2: Harbin and Rich Armberger, we alive from the ti iraq

2569
02:10:28,720 --> 02:10:29,960
Speaker 2: dot com studios.

2570
02:10:31,000 --> 02:10:31,800
Speaker 1: Well they did it.

2571
02:10:32,040 --> 02:10:35,720
Speaker 2: Yes, Indeed, the Dolphins get a fifty two yard field

2572
02:10:35,760 --> 02:10:39,080
Speaker 2: goal to tie up the game against the Jets, and

2573
02:10:39,160 --> 02:10:43,440
Speaker 2: it looks like we are seven seven seven seconds left

2574
02:10:43,440 --> 02:10:46,880
Speaker 2: in regulation. Jets with the ball right now, quick pass

2575
02:10:46,920 --> 02:10:50,760
Speaker 2: over the middle, and that is going to do it.

2576
02:10:50,800 --> 02:10:54,120
Speaker 2: We are going to go to overtime in that game. Meanwhile,

2577
02:10:54,280 --> 02:10:58,880
Speaker 2: we're looking at the Giants and the Saints. Rich Giants

2578
02:10:59,000 --> 02:11:01,240
Speaker 2: look like they're going to have to go for a

2579
02:11:01,280 --> 02:11:05,480
Speaker 2: field goal attempt to possibly send that game in overtime.

2580
02:11:05,720 --> 02:11:10,880
Speaker 2: Drew locked just like pro Bolish in leading this Giants

2581
02:11:10,960 --> 02:11:14,720
Speaker 2: comeback right now. Yes, I'm prone to exaggeration on these

2582
02:11:14,760 --> 02:11:18,920
Speaker 2: completely meaningless football games right now, but yes, the Giants

2583
02:11:19,000 --> 02:11:22,200
Speaker 2: right now, eleven seconds to go, are going to attempt

2584
02:11:22,280 --> 02:11:23,280
Speaker 2: a field goal.

2585
02:11:23,560 --> 02:11:25,200
Speaker 1: It's not going to be a long field goal.

2586
02:11:25,080 --> 02:11:28,720
Speaker 2: Attempt to try to thirty five yard field goal attempt

2587
02:11:28,720 --> 02:11:31,680
Speaker 2: to send this game into overtime. So we could have

2588
02:11:31,920 --> 02:11:35,120
Speaker 2: dual overtime games.

2589
02:11:35,120 --> 02:11:38,640
Speaker 1: With four teams that all have losing records. All right,

2590
02:11:39,120 --> 02:11:40,200
Speaker 1: all right, let's go.

2591
02:11:41,320 --> 02:11:43,240
Speaker 9: The Giants just missed that.

2592
02:11:44,960 --> 02:11:47,080
Speaker 4: Oh no, all right, so there it is.

2593
02:11:46,960 --> 02:11:51,600
Speaker 2: This Well, hold on a second. What happened on that field?

2594
02:11:51,720 --> 02:11:56,720
Speaker 2: Was that blocked? That thing was underneath the goal pols? Yeah,

2595
02:11:57,200 --> 02:12:01,120
Speaker 2: look at Brian Dable, he's like, what do you know?

2596
02:12:03,200 --> 02:12:06,800
Speaker 2: By the way, Giants fans, they're just like this game. Look,

2597
02:12:07,200 --> 02:12:09,040
Speaker 2: I gotta see this field goal attempt again.

2598
02:12:09,080 --> 02:12:09,520
Speaker 4: Here we go.

2599
02:12:09,560 --> 02:12:15,520
Speaker 2: Here was the field goal attempt, and it is Oh my, it.

2600
02:12:15,520 --> 02:12:20,360
Speaker 1: Barely got off the ground. I mean, no one even

2601
02:12:20,400 --> 02:12:26,240
Speaker 1: had to jump. He kicked it right into the line.

2602
02:12:26,440 --> 02:12:27,280
Speaker 1: I'll put it this way.

2603
02:12:27,400 --> 02:12:32,840
Speaker 2: It was blocked by a Saints player who was falling down. Okay,

2604
02:12:32,880 --> 02:12:36,200
Speaker 2: now there's gotta be a conspiracy theory on that kick.

2605
02:12:36,000 --> 02:12:40,400
Speaker 1: Right, There's no way an NFL kicker just did that.

2606
02:12:40,640 --> 02:12:43,120
Speaker 4: It was muffed. I mean it was I I think

2607
02:12:43,240 --> 02:12:44,520
Speaker 4: I think that was. They got that.

2608
02:12:44,640 --> 02:12:47,720
Speaker 2: They got the they got the garbage bags on their head,

2609
02:12:47,760 --> 02:12:52,200
Speaker 2: the Giants fans. So the Giants keep pace with the

2610
02:12:52,280 --> 02:12:57,520
Speaker 2: Raiders both teams two and eleven in the Schedure Sanders Sweepstakes.

2611
02:12:57,520 --> 02:12:58,040
Speaker 8: There you go.

2612
02:12:58,240 --> 02:13:02,320
Speaker 3: Okay, so they dropped to two and eleven on the year.

2613
02:13:02,280 --> 02:13:03,320
Speaker 1: Raiders are two and eleven.

2614
02:13:03,440 --> 02:13:05,839
Speaker 4: They dropped to zero and seven at home.

2615
02:13:06,200 --> 02:13:10,480
Speaker 2: Nice. Nice, Yeah, So okay, again, something happened on that

2616
02:13:10,520 --> 02:13:11,440
Speaker 2: field goal attempt.

2617
02:13:11,440 --> 02:13:12,360
Speaker 1: This was a chip shot.

2618
02:13:12,400 --> 02:13:15,320
Speaker 2: This was literally an extra point, and he kicked it

2619
02:13:15,600 --> 02:13:22,160
Speaker 2: so low that it was blocked by a Saints defensive

2620
02:13:22,200 --> 02:13:25,200
Speaker 2: lineman who was literally falling to the ground.

2621
02:13:25,360 --> 02:13:27,280
Speaker 3: Are you suggesting that kickers on the Dolph?

2622
02:13:27,400 --> 02:13:30,200
Speaker 1: I'm just saying that that was very suspicious.

2623
02:13:30,240 --> 02:13:33,000
Speaker 3: Are you suggesting that the kicker is a distant family

2624
02:13:33,040 --> 02:13:35,080
Speaker 3: member of and Dion Sanders.

2625
02:13:35,680 --> 02:13:38,360
Speaker 2: Look at it's a battle right now for Shader Sanders

2626
02:13:38,360 --> 02:13:42,120
Speaker 2: and apparently Dion Sanders the package deal between the Giants

2627
02:13:42,120 --> 02:13:45,200
Speaker 2: and the Raiders. Meanwhile, the Seahawks right now have a

2628
02:13:45,240 --> 02:13:48,040
Speaker 2: second goal of the Arizona ten yard line, so they're

2629
02:13:48,080 --> 02:13:50,560
Speaker 2: looking to answer back after the Cardinals got on the

2630
02:13:50,600 --> 02:13:54,200
Speaker 2: board with the seven ahing laiden. Here it is the

2631
02:13:54,280 --> 02:13:57,040
Speaker 2: overtime that everyone has been waiting for. Go ahead and

2632
02:13:57,120 --> 02:14:01,040
Speaker 2: Jets and Dolphins and the Dolphins we'll have the ball

2633
02:14:01,160 --> 02:14:04,600
Speaker 2: first in overtime, all right, come of games coming up here,

2634
02:14:04,640 --> 02:14:07,560
Speaker 2: Bears forty nine Ers. We talked a little bit earlier

2635
02:14:07,560 --> 02:14:11,440
Speaker 2: with Jonathan Film about that game Bills at the Rams.

2636
02:14:12,000 --> 02:14:15,560
Speaker 1: Rich Bill's a red hot. You can make an argument.

2637
02:14:16,040 --> 02:14:18,840
Speaker 2: Easily that the Bills are the team to beat right

2638
02:14:18,880 --> 02:14:22,280
Speaker 2: now in the NFL City at ten and two. Where

2639
02:14:22,280 --> 02:14:25,720
Speaker 2: are you with this Rams team that obviously, if they

2640
02:14:25,760 --> 02:14:30,200
Speaker 2: were to win today at the very least key pace

2641
02:14:30,360 --> 02:14:33,440
Speaker 2: in the NFC West, and if the Cardinals win, it

2642
02:14:33,440 --> 02:14:35,840
Speaker 2: could be a three way tie for first place in

2643
02:14:35,880 --> 02:14:36,840
Speaker 2: the NFC West.

2644
02:14:36,960 --> 02:14:39,880
Speaker 4: Well, if they beat the Bills.

2645
02:14:39,800 --> 02:14:41,760
Speaker 2: And the Cardinals beat the Seahawks, you would have a

2646
02:14:41,800 --> 02:14:43,240
Speaker 2: three way tie in the NFC West.

2647
02:14:43,280 --> 02:14:44,000
Speaker 4: All of a sudden.

2648
02:14:44,280 --> 02:14:47,200
Speaker 3: We would have to start talking about Matthew Stafford for

2649
02:14:47,240 --> 02:14:51,440
Speaker 3: the first time this season, because Matthew Stafford in his

2650
02:14:51,560 --> 02:14:54,760
Speaker 3: past three games is the second best in the NFL

2651
02:14:54,920 --> 02:14:58,920
Speaker 3: in terms of total QB rating. Okay, the only person

2652
02:14:59,040 --> 02:15:02,840
Speaker 3: he's behind in that in that rating system is Josh

2653
02:15:02,920 --> 02:15:07,400
Speaker 3: Allen of the Buffalo Bills. So Stafford's got eight touchdown

2654
02:15:07,560 --> 02:15:11,080
Speaker 3: passes over the past three games, that second most since

2655
02:15:11,120 --> 02:15:14,680
Speaker 3: Week eleven. He hasn't thrown an interception in those three

2656
02:15:14,720 --> 02:15:15,320
Speaker 3: games either.

2657
02:15:15,480 --> 02:15:17,120
Speaker 4: He is on fire.

2658
02:15:17,800 --> 02:15:20,000
Speaker 3: So if the Rams, who are hosting the Bills, by

2659
02:15:20,000 --> 02:15:22,360
Speaker 3: the way, this is a game played out west in

2660
02:15:22,640 --> 02:15:25,040
Speaker 3: La find a way to beat the Bills all of

2661
02:15:25,080 --> 02:15:29,000
Speaker 3: a sudden, Not only do they create themselves a little

2662
02:15:29,000 --> 02:15:31,360
Speaker 3: bit of room in the NFC West to be back

2663
02:15:31,400 --> 02:15:35,120
Speaker 3: in the conversation to win this division, but also we

2664
02:15:35,200 --> 02:15:37,880
Speaker 3: got to start talking about Matthew Stafford in the fact

2665
02:15:37,880 --> 02:15:41,640
Speaker 3: that Matthew Stafford is an elite level quarterback when he's

2666
02:15:41,720 --> 02:15:44,680
Speaker 3: playing this way, and if this continues through the end

2667
02:15:44,720 --> 02:15:48,280
Speaker 3: of the season. We've seen this before literally with the Rams.

2668
02:15:48,720 --> 02:15:51,080
Speaker 3: If when they get hot, they're one of the hardest

2669
02:15:51,080 --> 02:15:54,040
Speaker 3: teams to prepare for in the NFL because Sean McVay

2670
02:15:54,120 --> 02:15:57,400
Speaker 3: is a brilliant game planner and Matthew Stafford is a

2671
02:15:57,640 --> 02:16:01,680
Speaker 3: brilliant quarterback from under center, in the gun at quarterback

2672
02:16:01,840 --> 02:16:04,000
Speaker 3: in clutch moments.

2673
02:16:03,600 --> 02:16:07,120
Speaker 2: All right, the Dolphins are on the move in overtime.

2674
02:16:07,240 --> 02:16:12,520
Speaker 2: Remember if they score a touchdown game over, and they

2675
02:16:12,560 --> 02:16:18,040
Speaker 2: are now already down to the Jets thirty six yard line,

2676
02:16:18,120 --> 02:16:20,720
Speaker 2: so to a taken over here by the way, Aaron

2677
02:16:20,800 --> 02:16:23,800
Speaker 2: Rodgers twenty seven to thirty nine, three hundred and thirty

2678
02:16:23,880 --> 02:16:27,320
Speaker 2: nine yards. They seemingly had this game in hand with

2679
02:16:27,400 --> 02:16:29,520
Speaker 2: the field goal, but the Dolphins tied it on a

2680
02:16:29,520 --> 02:16:32,879
Speaker 2: fifty two yard field goal, and the Dolphins on the move.

2681
02:16:33,400 --> 02:16:36,720
Speaker 2: If they score first, if they get a touchdown here,

2682
02:16:36,920 --> 02:16:40,080
Speaker 2: not a field goal, but a touchdown, game over and

2683
02:16:40,120 --> 02:16:42,760
Speaker 2: the Dolphins win, and the jetsuit loser again.

2684
02:16:42,920 --> 02:16:47,640
Speaker 3: Executive passes to Smith to get them down the field

2685
02:16:47,640 --> 02:16:50,360
Speaker 3: here in a herd John ou Smith. His only two

2686
02:16:50,440 --> 02:16:54,320
Speaker 3: receptions of the game have come in overtime for twenty

2687
02:16:54,400 --> 02:16:58,199
Speaker 3: yards and fourteen yards to get them in Jets' territory immediately.

2688
02:16:58,640 --> 02:16:59,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, right now.

2689
02:16:59,360 --> 02:17:01,440
Speaker 2: They just showed a shot of Aaron Rodgers on the

2690
02:17:01,480 --> 02:17:05,640
Speaker 2: sideline saying this can't be happening. Yeah, this literally just

2691
02:17:05,680 --> 02:17:08,920
Speaker 2: cannot be happening. I remember last week, you know, they

2692
02:17:09,000 --> 02:17:12,160
Speaker 2: played the Seahawks seemingly again had the game in hand.

2693
02:17:12,200 --> 02:17:14,200
Speaker 2: Remember they were up two touchdowns, and then you had

2694
02:17:14,200 --> 02:17:18,160
Speaker 2: that Fluke interception returned ninety one yards for a touchdown

2695
02:17:18,240 --> 02:17:23,240
Speaker 2: by Leonard Williams that turned that game around. And sideline

2696
02:17:23,280 --> 02:17:27,000
Speaker 2: pass to Tyreek Hill is inside the twenty five yard line.

2697
02:17:27,080 --> 02:17:30,600
Speaker 2: My gosh, so they are moving right now. By the way,

2698
02:17:30,600 --> 02:17:33,160
Speaker 2: the Seahawks ended up with a field goal. So the

2699
02:17:33,200 --> 02:17:35,879
Speaker 2: Cardinals still lead that game seven to three, and as

2700
02:17:35,920 --> 02:17:39,360
Speaker 2: we said, just kicking off right now, Bill's at the

2701
02:17:39,480 --> 02:17:44,560
Speaker 2: Rams and Bears at the forty niners. So again, if

2702
02:17:44,560 --> 02:17:48,560
Speaker 2: the Dolphins win, they would get to six and seven,

2703
02:17:48,600 --> 02:17:55,000
Speaker 2: but there's still two games behind the Broncos with four

2704
02:17:55,120 --> 02:17:58,200
Speaker 2: games to play, So I mean the Dolphins would have

2705
02:17:58,240 --> 02:18:02,199
Speaker 2: to win out and hope obviously that the Broncos stumble

2706
02:18:02,240 --> 02:18:03,040
Speaker 2: a couple of times.

2707
02:18:03,120 --> 02:18:08,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, Yeah, I mean it is. It's pretty amazing

2708
02:18:08,720 --> 02:18:11,960
Speaker 3: when you think about the help that the Dolphins would

2709
02:18:12,080 --> 02:18:15,360
Speaker 3: need for their hopes to be alive. You need this

2710
02:18:15,440 --> 02:18:18,000
Speaker 3: win against the Jets, but then you really need to

2711
02:18:18,040 --> 02:18:21,720
Speaker 3: win every single game from here on out. And you

2712
02:18:21,760 --> 02:18:25,080
Speaker 3: look at the Dolphins record or i should say schedule,

2713
02:18:25,720 --> 02:18:28,560
Speaker 3: that means they'd have to beat Houston on the road,

2714
02:18:28,840 --> 02:18:32,440
Speaker 3: host to San Francisco forty nine ers winnable game, then

2715
02:18:32,480 --> 02:18:37,600
Speaker 3: go to Cleveland late season December twenty ninth. Tough place

2716
02:18:37,680 --> 02:18:40,280
Speaker 3: for Miami to play at any point during the year,

2717
02:18:40,320 --> 02:18:44,119
Speaker 3: but especially when you have the winter weather, and then

2718
02:18:44,160 --> 02:18:48,279
Speaker 3: you finish a final road test against the New York Giants,

2719
02:18:48,320 --> 02:18:50,440
Speaker 3: so you're gonna have to beat them consecutive times in

2720
02:18:50,480 --> 02:18:50,920
Speaker 3: five weeks.

2721
02:18:50,959 --> 02:18:54,080
Speaker 2: What he got an right there on the reception, and

2722
02:18:54,120 --> 02:18:58,000
Speaker 2: that puts the Dolphins at about the ten yard line.

2723
02:18:58,440 --> 02:19:00,760
Speaker 2: Oh my god, so to a just picking apart this

2724
02:19:01,000 --> 02:19:06,920
Speaker 2: Jets defensive secondary right now, and he short passes hn

2725
02:19:07,080 --> 02:19:11,320
Speaker 2: right there with the reception, and the Dolphins are in

2726
02:19:11,400 --> 02:19:15,560
Speaker 2: business again. A touchdown here will put this game away

2727
02:19:15,720 --> 02:19:17,560
Speaker 2: and give it to the Dolphins.

2728
02:19:17,600 --> 02:19:20,320
Speaker 1: Ball actually at the thirteen yard.

2729
02:19:20,120 --> 02:19:24,320
Speaker 2: Line right now, first and ten for the Miami Dolphins

2730
02:19:24,360 --> 02:19:27,360
Speaker 2: in overtime, and they're going to run the ball on

2731
02:19:27,480 --> 02:19:30,160
Speaker 2: first down and get down to about the ten yard line.

2732
02:19:30,320 --> 02:19:32,720
Speaker 3: So yeah, I.

2733
02:19:35,160 --> 02:19:37,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, it just there are a lot of things that

2734
02:19:37,840 --> 02:19:40,320
Speaker 2: would happen now, you know, I just keep getting back

2735
02:19:40,360 --> 02:19:44,080
Speaker 2: to which teams that we thought were going to be

2736
02:19:44,120 --> 02:19:46,959
Speaker 2: in the mix early on that just for whatever reason,

2737
02:19:47,120 --> 02:19:49,560
Speaker 2: are you know, trying to hang on to their playoff

2738
02:19:49,680 --> 02:19:52,600
Speaker 2: lives right now. You talk about the forty nine ers.

2739
02:19:52,600 --> 02:19:56,360
Speaker 2: The Dolphins are certainly in that conversation. But this is

2740
02:19:56,400 --> 02:19:59,440
Speaker 2: what we every year we start this right rich, where

2741
02:19:59,480 --> 02:20:05,560
Speaker 2: we say, all right, Forredick, which four teams are going

2742
02:20:05,600 --> 02:20:08,519
Speaker 2: to be the ones that are going to exceed all expectations,

2743
02:20:08,879 --> 02:20:13,800
Speaker 2: and which four to touchdown Dolphins game over the over game

2744
02:20:14,120 --> 02:20:19,000
Speaker 2: over there goes and that is a touchdown pass from

2745
02:20:19,040 --> 02:20:23,560
Speaker 2: two to Jonas Smith and Aaron Rodgers walks off the

2746
02:20:23,600 --> 02:20:28,000
Speaker 2: field a loser once again as the Dolphins get to

2747
02:20:28,080 --> 02:20:32,720
Speaker 2: six and seven and the Jets are an unsightly three

2748
02:20:33,640 --> 02:20:34,160
Speaker 2: and ten.

2749
02:20:34,680 --> 02:20:39,440
Speaker 3: What a crazy overtime for jon Ousmith. He didn't get

2750
02:20:39,480 --> 02:20:44,000
Speaker 3: a single touch during regulation. He's got three receptions on

2751
02:20:44,040 --> 02:20:48,080
Speaker 3: the day for forty four yards and a touchdown, all

2752
02:20:48,120 --> 02:20:49,440
Speaker 3: of which in overtime.

2753
02:20:49,600 --> 02:20:52,440
Speaker 2: Yes, they were just saving him for overtime, that's right, Yeah, yeah,

2754
02:20:52,480 --> 02:20:53,040
Speaker 2: they were.

2755
02:20:53,240 --> 02:20:55,680
Speaker 3: Well, you know what, honestly, they're specialists in a lot

2756
02:20:55,720 --> 02:20:57,920
Speaker 3: of different ways in the NFL. Would not shock me

2757
02:20:58,240 --> 02:21:00,720
Speaker 3: if Jono Smith all of a sudden became the overtime

2758
02:21:00,720 --> 02:21:02,600
Speaker 3: tight end specialist, all right?

2759
02:21:02,800 --> 02:21:06,840
Speaker 2: With that? Uh wow? Three and ten for the Jets?

2760
02:21:07,240 --> 02:21:09,800
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, let's find out

2761
02:21:09,800 --> 02:21:12,080
Speaker 2: what is a trending right now?

2762
02:21:12,240 --> 02:21:15,279
Speaker 1: Is Martin like the rest of us just watching what happened?

2763
02:21:15,400 --> 02:21:15,720
Speaker 4: Are you?

2764
02:21:15,800 --> 02:21:16,360
Speaker 1: Were you one of.

2765
02:21:16,360 --> 02:21:18,840
Speaker 2: Those people that was a big believer that Aaron Rodgers

2766
02:21:18,920 --> 02:21:19,640
Speaker 2: was gonna have.

2767
02:21:19,840 --> 02:21:22,720
Speaker 6: No, No, I wasn't a believer in any of it.

2768
02:21:23,200 --> 02:21:23,720
Speaker 1: I wasn't.

2769
02:21:23,840 --> 02:21:26,840
Speaker 2: I mean I was on record over and over again

2770
02:21:26,920 --> 02:21:28,720
Speaker 2: saying I have no idea what you guys think.

2771
02:21:28,720 --> 02:21:30,720
Speaker 1: It's gonna happen. Now, I didn't think it was gonna

2772
02:21:30,720 --> 02:21:31,560
Speaker 1: be three and ten.

2773
02:21:31,720 --> 02:21:34,680
Speaker 3: Now, those people who thought that Aaron Rodgers was gonna

2774
02:21:34,680 --> 02:21:37,320
Speaker 3: be good be like in the MVP conversation.

2775
02:21:36,920 --> 02:21:40,080
Speaker 2: That was well, I mean Rich Rich was he was

2776
02:21:40,200 --> 02:21:42,600
Speaker 2: absolutely drinking the kool aid with Aaron Rodgers.

2777
02:21:43,320 --> 02:21:45,599
Speaker 1: And I'm like, do you really believe.

2778
02:21:45,240 --> 02:21:48,040
Speaker 2: A guy in his forties coming off a blown Achilles

2779
02:21:48,160 --> 02:21:51,400
Speaker 2: is gonna who played lousy as last year in Green Bay,

2780
02:21:51,480 --> 02:21:53,400
Speaker 2: is all gonna be an MVP again?

2781
02:21:53,640 --> 02:21:59,240
Speaker 3: And Rich Is like, absolutely watched absolutely, Maybe I gave.

2782
02:21:59,600 --> 02:22:03,800
Speaker 2: A why as you were buying into the fact that

2783
02:22:03,840 --> 02:22:06,080
Speaker 2: he was going to do with Tom Brady did there

2784
02:22:06,160 --> 02:22:10,160
Speaker 2: is only one Tom Brady Air Rodgers, never has been,

2785
02:22:10,280 --> 02:22:13,800
Speaker 2: never will be in the same sat wait to say, Brady, Yes.

2786
02:22:13,680 --> 02:22:16,360
Speaker 3: Tom Brady did it, but then the very next year,

2787
02:22:16,440 --> 02:22:19,720
Speaker 3: so did Matthew Stafford. And then also we saw how

2788
02:22:19,800 --> 02:22:22,080
Speaker 3: good Russell Wilson looked when he went to Denver.

2789
02:22:22,360 --> 02:22:25,560
Speaker 2: Okay, let's get quickly to Martin right now, what's going on, Martin?

2790
02:22:26,160 --> 02:22:28,480
Speaker 6: Aaron Rodgers had three hundred yards passing for the first

2791
02:22:28,480 --> 02:22:30,960
Speaker 6: time in his thirty four straight starts, but still as

2792
02:22:30,959 --> 02:22:34,520
Speaker 6: Steve Hartman, so eloquently said, just a moment Ago walks

2793
02:22:34,560 --> 02:22:39,600
Speaker 6: off the field a loser thirty two to twenty sixth

2794
02:22:39,640 --> 02:22:41,480
Speaker 6: to final score it overtime two a tongue of my

2795
02:22:41,600 --> 02:22:44,000
Speaker 6: Lowa Tonio a game when he touched up passes. John

2796
02:22:44,040 --> 02:22:46,280
Speaker 6: new Smith, who did not have a catching regulation but

2797
02:22:46,360 --> 02:22:52,040
Speaker 6: got busy in overtime, got busy and overtime he had

2798
02:22:52,040 --> 02:22:54,760
Speaker 6: forty four yards in the extra period and a touchdown

2799
02:22:55,080 --> 02:22:59,000
Speaker 6: of four targets. Here the Fightings beat the Falcons forty

2800
02:22:59,000 --> 02:23:01,600
Speaker 6: two to twenty one. Am Donald had five touchdown passes.

2801
02:23:01,680 --> 02:23:05,240
Speaker 6: Kirk Cousins had two interceptions. That leads that I mean

2802
02:23:05,280 --> 02:23:07,000
Speaker 6: his touchdown in interception ratio.

2803
02:23:07,400 --> 02:23:09,119
Speaker 7: It's not great.

2804
02:23:09,280 --> 02:23:11,199
Speaker 6: It's like when people go back to work in January,

2805
02:23:11,280 --> 02:23:13,560
Speaker 6: like one, one and six, one and seven, like.

2806
02:23:13,560 --> 02:23:14,360
Speaker 2: Around that time.

2807
02:23:15,040 --> 02:23:16,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, not great for Kirk Cussins as far as Vikings

2808
02:23:16,959 --> 02:23:18,000
Speaker 6: fans probably feeling good.

2809
02:23:17,840 --> 02:23:18,840
Speaker 7: About moving on from him.

2810
02:23:19,080 --> 02:23:22,760
Speaker 6: Saints beat the Giants fourteen to eleven at Graham Gono

2811
02:23:23,040 --> 02:23:26,320
Speaker 6: game time field goal attempt was blocked as time expired.

2812
02:23:26,640 --> 02:23:28,520
Speaker 7: Eagles beat the Panthers twenty two to six.

2813
02:23:28,560 --> 02:23:30,760
Speaker 6: He and Jalen Hurts had two touchdown passes and ran

2814
02:23:30,879 --> 02:23:34,440
Speaker 6: for one Sakwon Barkley sets the Eagles franchise rushing record

2815
02:23:34,480 --> 02:23:37,640
Speaker 6: passing with Saw McCoy. He also has nine games with

2816
02:23:37,640 --> 02:23:40,520
Speaker 6: at least one hundred yards rushing. That's another Eagles record.

2817
02:23:41,400 --> 02:23:43,959
Speaker 6: Russell Wilson had two touchdown passes as the Steelers beat

2818
02:23:43,959 --> 02:23:46,640
Speaker 6: the Browns twenty seven to fourteen. Jameis Winston also had

2819
02:23:46,640 --> 02:23:50,199
Speaker 6: two touchdown passes, but two passes to the wrong team

2820
02:23:50,240 --> 02:23:53,080
Speaker 6: as well with two interceptions. Buccaneers beat the Raiders twenty

2821
02:23:53,120 --> 02:23:55,920
Speaker 6: eight to thirteen eight and O'Connell knocked out of this

2822
02:23:56,040 --> 02:23:59,000
Speaker 6: game he was injured. Carter off Desmond Ritter finished at

2823
02:23:59,080 --> 02:24:02,200
Speaker 6: the bright spot for the Raiders. Rock Bouwers broke the

2824
02:24:02,280 --> 02:24:05,600
Speaker 6: rookie tight end reception record. It was only a set

2825
02:24:05,640 --> 02:24:08,400
Speaker 6: a year ago by Sam Laporta, but he broke that

2826
02:24:08,520 --> 02:24:12,800
Speaker 6: record today, so congratulations to him. Right now, we have

2827
02:24:12,840 --> 02:24:14,879
Speaker 6: a couple of games going on. The Seahawks with a

2828
02:24:15,000 --> 02:24:18,080
Speaker 6: ten to seven lead over Arizona with three twenty five

2829
02:24:18,200 --> 02:24:21,400
Speaker 6: left in the first quarter. Geno Smith seven for eight

2830
02:24:21,480 --> 02:24:24,280
Speaker 6: for seventy two yards and a touchdown. The Rams and

2831
02:24:24,320 --> 02:24:26,879
Speaker 6: the Bills tied with just under ten minutes left in

2832
02:24:26,920 --> 02:24:29,760
Speaker 6: the first quarter, and with twelve to twenty left in

2833
02:24:29,800 --> 02:24:31,720
Speaker 6: the first quarter. The forty nine ers have a seven

2834
02:24:31,720 --> 02:24:34,880
Speaker 6: to dozing lead over the Chicago Bears. Rock Birdy Rock

2835
02:24:35,000 --> 02:24:38,119
Speaker 6: Party four for four for seventy seventy.

2836
02:24:37,840 --> 02:24:39,119
Speaker 7: Yards through the year a touchdown.

2837
02:24:39,520 --> 02:24:44,160
Speaker 6: College football playoff is set Oregon, Georgia, Boise State, Arizona State.

2838
02:24:44,240 --> 02:24:47,200
Speaker 7: Those are your top four seeds. They have first round bys.

2839
02:24:47,280 --> 02:24:50,160
Speaker 6: First round matchups are the twelve seed a Clemson will

2840
02:24:50,160 --> 02:24:52,640
Speaker 6: play at fit seeded Texas. The winner will play Arias

2841
02:24:52,640 --> 02:24:55,039
Speaker 6: on the state in the Fiesta Bowl. Ninth seed at

2842
02:24:55,040 --> 02:24:57,480
Speaker 6: Tennessee will play at eight seed Ohio State. The winner

2843
02:24:57,520 --> 02:24:59,520
Speaker 6: of that game will play Oregon in the Rolls Bowl.

2844
02:25:00,000 --> 02:25:03,040
Speaker 6: Eleventh seed at SMU will play sixty Penn State.

2845
02:25:03,360 --> 02:25:05,879
Speaker 7: They play Boise State in the Peach Bowl once.

2846
02:25:05,800 --> 02:25:09,280
Speaker 6: Whoever wins that game, and the tenth seed Indiana will

2847
02:25:09,280 --> 02:25:12,600
Speaker 6: play seventh seed Notre Dame. The winner draws Georgia in

2848
02:25:12,640 --> 02:25:15,439
Speaker 6: the Sugar Bowl. Steven Rich back to you guys.

2849
02:25:15,200 --> 02:25:16,800
Speaker 1: All right, Martin, thank you very much.

2850
02:25:17,000 --> 02:25:20,360
Speaker 2: You mentioned earlier there that the Eagles held on to

2851
02:25:20,400 --> 02:25:22,400
Speaker 2: beat the Panthers twenty two to sixteen.

2852
02:25:22,480 --> 02:25:23,320
Speaker 1: Joining us right now.

2853
02:25:23,360 --> 02:25:25,320
Speaker 2: The man that was on the call for Fox Adam,

2854
02:25:25,320 --> 02:25:27,200
Speaker 2: I mean, is joining us once again.

2855
02:25:27,240 --> 02:25:29,160
Speaker 1: Adam's always great to catch up with you.

2856
02:25:29,600 --> 02:25:31,760
Speaker 2: I know the Eagles won this game, but I want

2857
02:25:31,760 --> 02:25:34,720
Speaker 2: to ask you your thoughts about Bryce Young because from

2858
02:25:34,800 --> 02:25:37,920
Speaker 2: where I'm sitting, even though the Panthers came up short,

2859
02:25:38,560 --> 02:25:42,680
Speaker 2: I'm beginning to see the Bryce Young confidence that we

2860
02:25:42,800 --> 02:25:45,680
Speaker 2: saw when he won a Heisman Trophy at Alabama. Are

2861
02:25:46,000 --> 02:25:49,080
Speaker 2: you getting a little sense that Bryce Young is sort

2862
02:25:49,120 --> 02:25:50,760
Speaker 2: of getting his mojo back.

2863
02:25:52,000 --> 02:25:54,360
Speaker 11: I think that's been the general theme for the last

2864
02:25:54,520 --> 02:25:57,320
Speaker 11: month for this group, which is a good sign. I

2865
02:25:57,360 --> 02:26:00,680
Speaker 11: think it's tough in a game like today because the

2866
02:26:00,760 --> 02:26:02,600
Speaker 11: last two weeks you take Kansas City down to the

2867
02:26:02,640 --> 02:26:05,400
Speaker 11: wire and take Tampa Bay down to overtime, and both

2868
02:26:05,440 --> 02:26:10,840
Speaker 11: of those games in the final drive that Carolina put

2869
02:26:10,879 --> 02:26:13,120
Speaker 11: together led to a touchdown. And this week it was

2870
02:26:13,160 --> 02:26:16,040
Speaker 11: a little bit more off kilter, right. They didn't really

2871
02:26:16,080 --> 02:26:19,360
Speaker 11: get set, They didn't really have what they needed to

2872
02:26:19,440 --> 02:26:21,360
Speaker 11: do to line up properly. They had a delay of

2873
02:26:21,400 --> 02:26:24,119
Speaker 11: game penalty, some drops as well, and I know that's

2874
02:26:24,160 --> 02:26:25,840
Speaker 11: not on Bryce Young. You threw a great ball to

2875
02:26:26,000 --> 02:26:28,320
Speaker 11: xavierly Get that he should have had that ended up

2876
02:26:28,360 --> 02:26:30,080
Speaker 11: being a drop that would have been the go ahead touchdown,

2877
02:26:30,640 --> 02:26:34,160
Speaker 11: but I think you still take as many positives away

2878
02:26:34,160 --> 02:26:37,160
Speaker 11: as you possibly can, and hopefully that doesn't derail this

2879
02:26:37,280 --> 02:26:40,119
Speaker 11: momentum that I think Bryce is built up. It's hard, though,

2880
02:26:40,160 --> 02:26:42,280
Speaker 11: right because until you start seeing the results, until you

2881
02:26:42,320 --> 02:26:45,320
Speaker 11: start seeing wins, it's very difficult to feel like, all right, well,

2882
02:26:45,320 --> 02:26:48,760
Speaker 11: everything's working, the process is working. But I do think

2883
02:26:48,760 --> 02:26:51,120
Speaker 11: there's a lot of good to take away from what

2884
02:26:51,160 --> 02:26:54,039
Speaker 11: he's been doing, from how Dave Canal is for the

2885
02:26:54,040 --> 02:26:56,720
Speaker 11: most part, outside of maybe a couple of miscues called

2886
02:26:56,720 --> 02:27:00,200
Speaker 11: this game, for how well the defense held up, even

2887
02:27:00,200 --> 02:27:02,520
Speaker 11: though Saquon Barkley had a strong day again, I still

2888
02:27:02,520 --> 02:27:05,120
Speaker 11: think the defense made some really good plays. So all

2889
02:27:05,160 --> 02:27:07,280
Speaker 11: of that infuses the confidence that I think you guys

2890
02:27:07,320 --> 02:27:09,879
Speaker 11: are talking about right now. And I think Bryce Young

2891
02:27:10,000 --> 02:27:11,600
Speaker 11: is the type of kid who at the very least

2892
02:27:11,640 --> 02:27:14,320
Speaker 11: has seen enough to be like, all right, at least

2893
02:27:14,400 --> 02:27:16,720
Speaker 11: we're making strides. And I hope that's the case, because

2894
02:27:16,720 --> 02:27:18,959
Speaker 11: it seems like this last month he's really grown up

2895
02:27:19,000 --> 02:27:20,640
Speaker 11: a lot, just in front of all of us watching

2896
02:27:20,680 --> 02:27:21,360
Speaker 11: these games.

2897
02:27:21,680 --> 02:27:25,640
Speaker 3: Two years ago, Eagles double digit win team, nothing but

2898
02:27:25,760 --> 02:27:29,280
Speaker 3: belief in that squad. Last year, double digit win team,

2899
02:27:29,320 --> 02:27:32,480
Speaker 3: around this time of year, nobody believed that they were

2900
02:27:32,480 --> 02:27:34,840
Speaker 3: going to be able to hold on and they collapse

2901
02:27:35,080 --> 02:27:37,640
Speaker 3: this year, double digit win team, and I'm kind of

2902
02:27:37,720 --> 02:27:40,560
Speaker 3: caught in between. And I'm not sure if it's the

2903
02:27:40,600 --> 02:27:44,600
Speaker 3: influence of last year, what we've seen in the recent past,

2904
02:27:44,440 --> 02:27:47,920
Speaker 3: or the reason why I'm not completely bought in. I

2905
02:27:47,959 --> 02:27:51,320
Speaker 3: think they're a different team completely with Saquon Barkley. I

2906
02:27:51,320 --> 02:27:53,800
Speaker 3: think they present a lot of problems for a lot

2907
02:27:53,879 --> 02:27:56,160
Speaker 3: of teams in the NFL. But I mean, do you

2908
02:27:56,240 --> 02:28:00,280
Speaker 3: feel similarly, and if so, why is it hard to

2909
02:28:00,360 --> 02:28:02,040
Speaker 3: buy in on the Eagles this year?

2910
02:28:02,879 --> 02:28:04,560
Speaker 11: I'm sure last year has a lot to do with it,

2911
02:28:04,640 --> 02:28:07,760
Speaker 11: you know a little bit of you know, stress disorder,

2912
02:28:07,840 --> 02:28:10,680
Speaker 11: seeing how they collapsed, how poorly they class. It was

2913
02:28:10,680 --> 02:28:13,200
Speaker 11: six of their last seven last year, including the blowout

2914
02:28:13,440 --> 02:28:14,840
Speaker 11: in the playoffs in Tampa Bay.

2915
02:28:15,160 --> 02:28:16,600
Speaker 15: So you're right, it was around this time they were

2916
02:28:16,600 --> 02:28:17,680
Speaker 15: ten and one last year.

2917
02:28:17,720 --> 02:28:18,720
Speaker 3: You know, another one too.

2918
02:28:19,440 --> 02:28:20,760
Speaker 15: I think Barkley is the.

2919
02:28:20,800 --> 02:28:24,480
Speaker 11: Fact is the big X factor here because having a

2920
02:28:24,800 --> 02:28:28,840
Speaker 11: very and I mean very reliable back and that offensive

2921
02:28:28,879 --> 02:28:31,320
Speaker 11: line has a lot to do with why this team

2922
02:28:31,640 --> 02:28:34,320
Speaker 11: and why Maybe the fan bateses some comments, but you know,

2923
02:28:34,320 --> 02:28:36,360
Speaker 11: it's so funny, guys. It's always fun to do a

2924
02:28:36,360 --> 02:28:38,160
Speaker 11: game in Philly, no matter what I did the Baseball

2925
02:28:38,160 --> 02:28:40,680
Speaker 11: playoffs there this year as a last same deal doing

2926
02:28:40,680 --> 02:28:43,040
Speaker 11: an Eagles game, especially when they're rolling and they're playing well.

2927
02:28:43,520 --> 02:28:46,520
Speaker 11: But it's so funny to listen to Philadelphia fans because

2928
02:28:46,560 --> 02:28:48,320
Speaker 11: I can understand why they're hesitant.

2929
02:28:48,480 --> 02:28:48,720
Speaker 4: Right.

2930
02:28:49,080 --> 02:28:52,200
Speaker 11: It might be, you know, the issues with play calling.

2931
02:28:52,240 --> 02:28:54,480
Speaker 11: It might be Nick Sirianni. It might be Kellen Moore,

2932
02:28:54,600 --> 02:28:56,439
Speaker 11: it might be Jalen Hurts.

2933
02:28:56,160 --> 02:28:56,800
Speaker 2: On a lot of days.

2934
02:28:56,800 --> 02:28:58,880
Speaker 11: And I don't think Jalen played a particularly the great game.

2935
02:28:58,920 --> 02:29:01,400
Speaker 11: He had a few good moment and obviously the rush

2936
02:29:01,480 --> 02:29:03,600
Speaker 11: touchdown was good. Some of his throws to get his

2937
02:29:03,720 --> 02:29:05,800
Speaker 11: passing tds were good. You know, you'll look at that

2938
02:29:05,840 --> 02:29:07,520
Speaker 11: and go, wow, you have three total tds and they

2939
02:29:07,520 --> 02:29:11,760
Speaker 11: beat Carolina. But the fashion in which you know they

2940
02:29:11,800 --> 02:29:14,240
Speaker 11: went about it, and how hard it was and how

2941
02:29:14,320 --> 02:29:17,120
Speaker 11: grinded out it was. At times when it feels like,

2942
02:29:17,320 --> 02:29:21,080
Speaker 11: if there's better execution from Philly's offense, it probably feels

2943
02:29:21,120 --> 02:29:24,720
Speaker 11: a little bit easier to lean into what the positives

2944
02:29:24,760 --> 02:29:26,480
Speaker 11: are about this team, and that's their offensive line, and

2945
02:29:26,480 --> 02:29:30,000
Speaker 11: that's Barkley right now, so I can understand why there's

2946
02:29:30,000 --> 02:29:32,440
Speaker 11: some hesitance to buy into it. I don't think Jalen

2947
02:29:32,480 --> 02:29:34,840
Speaker 11: Hurts has played his best ball. I think he's capable

2948
02:29:34,879 --> 02:29:37,680
Speaker 11: of it, certainly, but I feel like he hasn't played

2949
02:29:37,680 --> 02:29:40,160
Speaker 11: his best football yet. That defense is good enough to

2950
02:29:40,200 --> 02:29:42,440
Speaker 11: win you a championship, that running back is good enough

2951
02:29:42,440 --> 02:29:44,560
Speaker 11: to win you a championship. The skill guys the offensive

2952
02:29:44,560 --> 02:29:46,600
Speaker 11: line are good enough to win you a championship. If

2953
02:29:46,680 --> 02:29:49,560
Speaker 11: Hurts plays at a higher level, even an above average,

2954
02:29:49,560 --> 02:29:51,720
Speaker 11: he doesn't have to be exceptional. He needs to keep

2955
02:29:51,720 --> 02:29:53,680
Speaker 11: taking care of the ball like he has, and he

2956
02:29:53,720 --> 02:29:55,120
Speaker 11: needs to be a little bit better in some of

2957
02:29:55,160 --> 02:29:58,560
Speaker 11: these key moments, the third down in mediums, where you

2958
02:29:58,640 --> 02:30:00,160
Speaker 11: have a second read that's going to get you your

2959
02:30:00,160 --> 02:30:01,880
Speaker 11: first down and keep your offense on the field rather

2960
02:30:01,920 --> 02:30:05,000
Speaker 11: than leaning under defense, making the right decision on which

2961
02:30:05,200 --> 02:30:07,760
Speaker 11: you know which route to look at first, and then

2962
02:30:08,120 --> 02:30:11,360
Speaker 11: lean on aj Brown like he has some tendencies that

2963
02:30:11,440 --> 02:30:14,080
Speaker 11: probably have forced fans to take a step back and go, well,

2964
02:30:14,120 --> 02:30:14,640
Speaker 11: I don't know.

2965
02:30:15,080 --> 02:30:16,599
Speaker 15: So it's funny.

2966
02:30:16,280 --> 02:30:18,760
Speaker 11: Listening to Philadelphia fans just walking out of the building today.

2967
02:30:18,760 --> 02:30:22,320
Speaker 11: It was that feeling was there so I'm intrigued that

2968
02:30:22,320 --> 02:30:23,840
Speaker 11: you guys ask that question because I feel like that

2969
02:30:23,879 --> 02:30:24,840
Speaker 11: permeates this city.

2970
02:30:24,959 --> 02:30:26,840
Speaker 2: Well, Adam, I want to follow up on that Jalen

2971
02:30:26,920 --> 02:30:30,200
Speaker 2: Hurts situation because our Esteam producer Bo Benson here, who

2972
02:30:30,320 --> 02:30:33,320
Speaker 2: is a diehard Eagles guy. He says they need to

2973
02:30:33,400 --> 02:30:36,360
Speaker 2: do with Jalen Hurts what the Rams did with Jared Goff.

2974
02:30:37,160 --> 02:30:39,720
Speaker 2: In other words, when you say we haven't seen the

2975
02:30:39,760 --> 02:30:42,879
Speaker 2: best of Jalen Hurts, I think you have. We saw

2976
02:30:42,879 --> 02:30:45,160
Speaker 2: the best and it was in that Super Bowl, and

2977
02:30:45,200 --> 02:30:47,960
Speaker 2: we thought coming off the Super Bowl, I remember Jalen

2978
02:30:48,000 --> 02:30:49,680
Speaker 2: Hurts coming into the draft at him and I was

2979
02:30:49,720 --> 02:30:51,600
Speaker 2: asking a lot of people, where's the ceiling here?

2980
02:30:51,680 --> 02:30:51,920
Speaker 4: Right?

2981
02:30:52,240 --> 02:30:54,360
Speaker 2: I Mean that's always the question when you're talking about

2982
02:30:54,360 --> 02:30:55,680
Speaker 2: a prospect, like where do.

2983
02:30:55,640 --> 02:30:57,440
Speaker 1: You see the ceiling on this guy?

2984
02:30:57,840 --> 02:31:00,160
Speaker 2: And then after the Super Bowl everyone was like wow,

2985
02:31:00,200 --> 02:31:03,039
Speaker 2: I mean, they got the big contract extension, but he

2986
02:31:03,080 --> 02:31:06,440
Speaker 2: hasn't gotten better, Like it seems like we keep waiting

2987
02:31:06,480 --> 02:31:09,320
Speaker 2: for that guy to show up again. And maybe that

2988
02:31:09,560 --> 02:31:13,960
Speaker 2: Super Bowl was an aberration that he exceeded what he's

2989
02:31:14,000 --> 02:31:18,600
Speaker 2: actually capable of doing over the course of a full season,

2990
02:31:18,680 --> 02:31:22,160
Speaker 2: because it just seems like we're seeing pretty much the

2991
02:31:22,200 --> 02:31:25,160
Speaker 2: same Jalen Hurts week in and week out. And if

2992
02:31:25,160 --> 02:31:28,200
Speaker 2: it wasn't for Sakwon Barkley's emergence, I don't think the

2993
02:31:28,200 --> 02:31:30,160
Speaker 2: Eagles would be sitting at eleven and two.

2994
02:31:30,440 --> 02:31:33,480
Speaker 1: So I mean, is that something If.

2995
02:31:33,440 --> 02:31:35,640
Speaker 2: The Eagles fall short, if they go out early in

2996
02:31:35,680 --> 02:31:41,480
Speaker 2: the playoffs where they may actually be looking at that quarterback.

2997
02:31:41,000 --> 02:31:44,240
Speaker 11: Position, there will be a lot of questions about it,

2998
02:31:44,280 --> 02:31:46,600
Speaker 11: for sure. And listen, I trust both eyes. I trust

2999
02:31:46,640 --> 02:31:49,600
Speaker 11: Philly fans eyes. I trust my statistician. Ed Feta is

3000
02:31:49,600 --> 02:31:52,280
Speaker 11: a diehard Philly fan and we worked together a long time,

3001
02:31:52,280 --> 02:31:53,800
Speaker 11: and he's watched a lot of Eagles games and he

3002
02:31:53,840 --> 02:31:55,160
Speaker 11: stood next to me when I've called a lot of

3003
02:31:55,160 --> 02:31:57,520
Speaker 11: Eagles games, and ec is the same thing that I

3004
02:31:57,560 --> 02:31:58,720
Speaker 11: think a lot of Philly fans do.

3005
02:31:59,040 --> 02:31:59,800
Speaker 15: Is this the guy?

3006
02:31:59,920 --> 02:32:01,560
Speaker 11: Or at least question the same things that a lot

3007
02:32:01,600 --> 02:32:04,360
Speaker 11: of other Philly fans question. Is this the guy that's

3008
02:32:04,360 --> 02:32:05,760
Speaker 11: going to get you over the hump and get you

3009
02:32:05,840 --> 02:32:10,160
Speaker 11: the Super Bowls? It's going to fall on him because

3010
02:32:10,200 --> 02:32:13,000
Speaker 11: of the talent around it, right, he is the element

3011
02:32:13,080 --> 02:32:17,800
Speaker 11: to this that is going to I guess he's the

3012
02:32:17,800 --> 02:32:20,720
Speaker 11: best version of a glue guy, right, like he keeps

3013
02:32:20,720 --> 02:32:23,000
Speaker 11: it together because Barkley is going to do what he does.

3014
02:32:23,040 --> 02:32:25,440
Speaker 11: That offensive line is ridiculous. They're going to do what

3015
02:32:25,480 --> 02:32:28,440
Speaker 11: they do. The defense has played exceptionally well and I

3016
02:32:28,440 --> 02:32:30,879
Speaker 11: think is only getting better as the season goes on.

3017
02:32:31,760 --> 02:32:34,360
Speaker 11: So it's going to come down to is Jalen Hurts

3018
02:32:34,360 --> 02:32:36,879
Speaker 11: making the proper plays? Is he making the proper reads,

3019
02:32:36,920 --> 02:32:39,440
Speaker 11: Is he making the proper throws? Is he running at

3020
02:32:39,440 --> 02:32:41,640
Speaker 11: the correct time? Is he passing at the correct time?

3021
02:32:41,879 --> 02:32:44,280
Speaker 11: Is he making the right calls? Like checking into the

3022
02:32:44,360 --> 02:32:47,000
Speaker 11: right play is a skill and it's an understanding, and

3023
02:32:47,040 --> 02:32:49,360
Speaker 11: it's a processing thing. And I think if there is

3024
02:32:49,480 --> 02:32:53,240
Speaker 11: a criticism of Jalen for all the great things that

3025
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Speaker 11: he does do offensively and for the leader that he is,

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02:32:55,959 --> 02:32:58,160
Speaker 11: and for the demeanor that he carries, if there is

3027
02:32:58,200 --> 02:33:01,279
Speaker 11: a criticism, it's I don't know if he processing everything

3028
02:33:01,640 --> 02:33:04,800
Speaker 11: immediately in the span of time that it's necessary for

3029
02:33:05,040 --> 02:33:07,480
Speaker 11: you to beat a defense. Not to react to a

3030
02:33:07,520 --> 02:33:09,080
Speaker 11: defense and be able to make the right play or

3031
02:33:09,080 --> 02:33:11,160
Speaker 11: make a big play, or make an athletic play, but

3032
02:33:11,200 --> 02:33:13,920
Speaker 11: to make the right play before a defense has an

3033
02:33:13,920 --> 02:33:17,480
Speaker 11: opportunity to throw their first punch. You know, are you

3034
02:33:17,600 --> 02:33:20,680
Speaker 11: making the right play to negate the scheme that a

3035
02:33:20,720 --> 02:33:23,119
Speaker 11: defense is going to come in with because they're gonna

3036
02:33:23,120 --> 02:33:24,800
Speaker 11: try to scheme you. They have Aj Brown, you have

3037
02:33:24,840 --> 02:33:27,200
Speaker 11: DeVante Smith, you have a really good running back in line.

3038
02:33:27,600 --> 02:33:30,160
Speaker 11: Defenses are going to have to scheme against you. So

3039
02:33:30,200 --> 02:33:32,560
Speaker 11: it's unincumbent on the quarterback to be able to make

3040
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Speaker 11: the right decisions when he sees what the first punch

3041
02:33:34,800 --> 02:33:37,320
Speaker 11: is and offer the correct CounterPunch. And I agree, I

3042
02:33:37,360 --> 02:33:39,959
Speaker 11: don't know if we've seen that. I'm probably not the best.

3043
02:33:39,840 --> 02:33:40,360
Speaker 15: Gauge of it.

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02:33:40,400 --> 02:33:42,360
Speaker 11: I think Bo is probably a better gauge at Ed

3045
02:33:42,440 --> 02:33:44,240
Speaker 11: and all these guys that watch these games every day

3046
02:33:44,520 --> 02:33:47,040
Speaker 11: and throw stuff at their TVs when they're frustrated by

3047
02:33:47,080 --> 02:33:48,480
Speaker 11: the offense the way I'm sure a lot of fans

3048
02:33:48,520 --> 02:33:51,800
Speaker 11: are so but but kind of jumping in and watching

3049
02:33:51,800 --> 02:33:53,440
Speaker 11: the season and seeing what we saw today, Yeah, I

3050
02:33:53,440 --> 02:33:56,240
Speaker 11: think there are some very appropriate.

3051
02:33:55,760 --> 02:33:57,279
Speaker 3: Questions to ask Adam.

3052
02:33:57,280 --> 02:33:58,600
Speaker 1: We always appreciate the time.

3053
02:33:58,640 --> 02:34:01,680
Speaker 4: Thank you so much, you got boys. Thank you, Adam.

3054
02:34:01,680 --> 02:34:03,760
Speaker 2: I mean joining us right there. Hey, don't forget after

3055
02:34:03,800 --> 02:34:05,680
Speaker 2: the Sharp podcast is going up. So if you miss

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Speaker 2: any of today's show, check out the podcast. Just search

3057
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02:34:12,560 --> 02:34:12,840
Speaker 1: Again.

3060
02:34:12,959 --> 02:34:15,720
Speaker 2: Just search Fox Sports Radio wherever you get your podcasts.

3061
02:34:15,879 --> 02:34:18,440
Speaker 2: You'll see the show posted. Right after we get off

3062
02:34:18,480 --> 02:34:20,800
Speaker 2: the air. We're heading down the stretch for us.

3063
02:34:20,920 --> 02:34:23,240
Speaker 1: Keep it here. This is Red Zone Radio. Rocket to

3064
02:34:23,280 --> 02:34:25,959
Speaker 1: play action. We're gonna throw out life wide open.

3065
02:34:26,360 --> 02:34:29,000
Speaker 3: Juwan Jennings touchdown.

3066
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Speaker 2: Saying Francisco, that's camby our forty nine Ers Radio network.

3067
02:34:37,160 --> 02:34:40,920
Speaker 2: Forty nine Ers early seven to nothing lead against the Bears.

3068
02:34:41,360 --> 02:34:43,280
Speaker 1: Once again, this is Red Zone Radio.

3069
02:34:43,320 --> 02:34:46,280
Speaker 2: Steve Hartman and Rich Ornberger were live from the Tyre

3070
02:34:46,360 --> 02:34:49,280
Speaker 2: Rock dot Com studios. Dan Bayer and Carry Roads on

3071
02:34:49,560 --> 02:34:52,879
Speaker 2: deck to continue on with Red Zone Radio. Of course,

3072
02:34:52,920 --> 02:34:55,280
Speaker 2: we want to thank our group today, Martin stepping in

3073
02:34:55,360 --> 02:35:01,560
Speaker 2: brilliant as always, Martin, despite your review of the Heisman Trophy.

3074
02:35:01,640 --> 02:35:04,200
Speaker 2: I'll excuse that for another day, but Martin doing a

3075
02:35:04,200 --> 02:35:08,800
Speaker 2: phenomenal job. Chris could rest today because his lines already

3076
02:35:08,800 --> 02:35:12,360
Speaker 2: had had a victory in the bank, so that was

3077
02:35:12,440 --> 02:35:15,360
Speaker 2: easy for him, and of course for Bo who Adam

3078
02:35:15,400 --> 02:35:18,160
Speaker 2: and Mean credited with knowing more about the Eagles than

3079
02:35:18,200 --> 02:35:22,400
Speaker 2: he did. The Eagles also sitting pretty right now, so

3080
02:35:23,000 --> 02:35:25,080
Speaker 2: great job by all you guys. So again forty nine

3081
02:35:25,160 --> 02:35:28,760
Speaker 2: Ers leading the Bear seven nothing, Rams, Bills seven to seven,

3082
02:35:28,879 --> 02:35:31,880
Speaker 2: and the Seahawks. We talked about this, Rich, how would

3083
02:35:31,879 --> 02:35:35,120
Speaker 2: the Cardinals react after blowing that game in Minnesota? So

3084
02:35:35,280 --> 02:35:38,480
Speaker 2: far not good. Seahawks up seventeen to seven. So keep

3085
02:35:38,520 --> 02:35:41,959
Speaker 2: in mind, if Seattle wins and the Rams lose to

3086
02:35:42,040 --> 02:35:45,240
Speaker 2: the Bills, the Seahawks would have a two game lead

3087
02:35:45,320 --> 02:35:48,400
Speaker 2: in the NFC West with four weeks to go. So

3088
02:35:48,480 --> 02:35:52,360
Speaker 2: the Seahawks very much in the driver's seat. But Rich,

3089
02:35:52,440 --> 02:35:54,560
Speaker 2: I want to turn our attention to the game tonight

3090
02:35:54,600 --> 02:35:59,400
Speaker 2: between the Chargers and the Chiefs. And it was interesting because,

3091
02:35:59,440 --> 02:36:02,120
Speaker 2: as you know, is a big Chargers fan. We had

3092
02:36:02,160 --> 02:36:05,840
Speaker 2: Adam Kaplan our Fox Sports Radio NFL insider. She said,

3093
02:36:05,959 --> 02:36:08,720
Speaker 2: what are the Chargers chances? And he didn't even let

3094
02:36:08,720 --> 02:36:10,959
Speaker 2: her finish the question. He goes zero.

3095
02:36:12,360 --> 02:36:15,480
Speaker 1: No, JK. Dobbins. If you look at last week, the.

3096
02:36:15,360 --> 02:36:19,400
Speaker 2: Only touchdown the Chargers scored against the Falcons last week

3097
02:36:19,520 --> 02:36:22,400
Speaker 2: was that pick six. I mean that game was really

3098
02:36:22,560 --> 02:36:27,000
Speaker 2: about the complete meltdown of Kirk Cousins in that game

3099
02:36:27,040 --> 02:36:29,600
Speaker 2: for the Falcons. But I'll ask you, I'm going to

3100
02:36:29,680 --> 02:36:32,720
Speaker 2: put Adam Kapl on a side, we see the Chiefs

3101
02:36:32,840 --> 02:36:36,040
Speaker 2: week after a week after week almost trying to will

3102
02:36:36,080 --> 02:36:39,200
Speaker 2: themselves to lose a game and still find a way

3103
02:36:39,240 --> 02:36:40,440
Speaker 2: to win a game.

3104
02:36:41,080 --> 02:36:45,119
Speaker 1: Is that going to continue today? In case against the Chargers.

3105
02:36:46,160 --> 02:36:49,880
Speaker 3: I think that anybody in the league can beat the Chiefs.

3106
02:36:50,200 --> 02:36:52,000
Speaker 3: I think anybody in the league can beat the.

3107
02:36:52,040 --> 02:36:53,640
Speaker 1: Chiefs, but only one team has done.

3108
02:36:53,640 --> 02:36:58,720
Speaker 3: It takes a complete game, and so the answer to

3109
02:36:58,920 --> 02:37:02,000
Speaker 3: that question is the charge absolutely have a chance. The

3110
02:37:02,120 --> 02:37:06,480
Speaker 3: Chargers without Dobbins are more talented than the Carolina Panthers,

3111
02:37:07,240 --> 02:37:09,160
Speaker 3: and the Panthers took the Chiefs all the way to

3112
02:37:09,200 --> 02:37:13,440
Speaker 3: the wire. So I mean, listen, I appreciate where Adam

3113
02:37:13,520 --> 02:37:16,920
Speaker 3: Kaplan's at in his admiration for the Chiefs.

3114
02:37:17,000 --> 02:37:19,600
Speaker 4: We share that I admire the Chiefs too well.

3115
02:37:19,600 --> 02:37:21,640
Speaker 2: He also said, of the fact that Dobbins is out,

3116
02:37:21,680 --> 02:37:23,840
Speaker 2: the Chargers had no running game last week.

3117
02:37:23,879 --> 02:37:27,320
Speaker 4: I gets it, understood, but still without Dobbins.

3118
02:37:27,560 --> 02:37:29,920
Speaker 3: I'm asking you the question now because I said it,

3119
02:37:30,280 --> 02:37:32,680
Speaker 3: but I want to hear your answer to this question.

3120
02:37:33,120 --> 02:37:35,240
Speaker 4: The Chargers without Dobbins are a.

3121
02:37:35,280 --> 02:37:39,000
Speaker 3: More talented team than the Carolina Panthers, yes or yes?

3122
02:37:39,120 --> 02:37:39,400
Speaker 2: Yes?

3123
02:37:39,520 --> 02:37:43,279
Speaker 3: Okay, So if the Carolina Panthers can almost beat the Chiefs.

3124
02:37:43,440 --> 02:37:44,959
Speaker 4: Then the Chargers can beat the.

3125
02:37:45,000 --> 02:37:47,879
Speaker 2: Chiefs and Justin Herbert has had some of his best

3126
02:37:47,920 --> 02:37:49,600
Speaker 2: games in Kansas City.

3127
02:37:49,800 --> 02:37:54,520
Speaker 3: Yeah. Look, this Chiefs team stinks this year.

3128
02:37:54,959 --> 02:37:55,440
Speaker 4: They stay.

3129
02:37:55,560 --> 02:37:57,240
Speaker 1: Is this the worst eleven to one team?

3130
02:37:57,480 --> 02:37:57,640
Speaker 7: You know?

3131
02:37:58,160 --> 02:38:00,000
Speaker 1: I mentioned this on the other the other day.

3132
02:38:00,080 --> 02:38:02,520
Speaker 3: Are still eleven and one team I've ever seen?

3133
02:38:02,560 --> 02:38:04,959
Speaker 2: Some people said, do you remember the Steelers just a

3134
02:38:04,959 --> 02:38:06,119
Speaker 2: few years ago or eleven?

3135
02:38:06,160 --> 02:38:08,680
Speaker 1: And oh and how fast they were? Yeah?

3136
02:38:08,720 --> 02:38:10,360
Speaker 9: That was that was what I was going to ask you, Like,

3137
02:38:10,360 --> 02:38:12,520
Speaker 9: that Steelers team was infinitely worse than this Chiefs team.

3138
02:38:12,879 --> 02:38:14,440
Speaker 1: That was a really bad team.

3139
02:38:14,920 --> 02:38:17,120
Speaker 4: All right, correction? Correct you? That was the worst.

3140
02:38:17,560 --> 02:38:18,400
Speaker 1: That was the worst.

3141
02:38:18,800 --> 02:38:20,959
Speaker 3: That was the worst eleven with team I've ever seen.

3142
02:38:21,040 --> 02:38:24,080
Speaker 2: That That was that was believe they were eleven and

3143
02:38:24,120 --> 02:38:25,680
Speaker 2: oh weren't they that year?

3144
02:38:26,680 --> 02:38:28,840
Speaker 12: What was that twenty was it twenty twenty two? That

3145
02:38:28,959 --> 02:38:31,760
Speaker 12: Vikings team as well? Oh the Vikings two years ago.

3146
02:38:32,520 --> 02:38:34,760
Speaker 3: I'll tell you right now, that Vikings team beats this

3147
02:38:34,840 --> 02:38:35,880
Speaker 3: Chiefs team this year.

3148
02:38:36,080 --> 02:38:36,440
Speaker 5: Probably.

3149
02:38:36,520 --> 02:38:37,840
Speaker 8: Yeah, No, I think I'm with you there.

3150
02:38:37,959 --> 02:38:40,600
Speaker 3: I think this is the second worst because that Steelers

3151
02:38:40,640 --> 02:38:41,640
Speaker 3: team was really bad.

3152
02:38:42,000 --> 02:38:45,200
Speaker 4: I think this is this It works eleven with football

3153
02:38:45,240 --> 02:38:45,800
Speaker 4: team i've seen.

3154
02:38:46,000 --> 02:38:48,240
Speaker 3: Look and who knows. Look, they could be twelve and

3155
02:38:48,280 --> 02:38:50,720
Speaker 3: one after this game. Yes, but the Chiefs have played

3156
02:38:50,800 --> 02:38:55,840
Speaker 3: terrible football, and it's come down to Mahomes or the refs,

3157
02:38:56,240 --> 02:39:00,480
Speaker 3: or circumstances outside of the Chiefs control, like the Baltimore

3158
02:39:00,520 --> 02:39:03,880
Speaker 3: Ravens Titan stepping on the light to win these games.

3159
02:39:04,160 --> 02:39:07,120
Speaker 3: The Chiefs at their house of cards right now, they

3160
02:39:07,160 --> 02:39:09,920
Speaker 3: could change it and it could start tonight. Maybe they

3161
02:39:10,000 --> 02:39:13,480
Speaker 3: blow out the Chargers, but the Chargers absolutely could beat

3162
02:39:13,480 --> 02:39:14,160
Speaker 3: the Chiefs tonight.

3163
02:39:14,200 --> 02:39:15,920
Speaker 1: All right, we'll see how that plays out.

3164
02:39:15,959 --> 02:39:18,440
Speaker 2: And then, of course the Monday night game that everyone's

3165
02:39:18,480 --> 02:39:21,959
Speaker 2: been talking about, the Bengals and Cowboys, which is why

3166
02:39:22,000 --> 02:39:24,000
Speaker 2: we will not talk about that game.

3167
02:39:24,520 --> 02:39:28,160
Speaker 1: All right, Continue on, Danny Kerry will get you rolling

3168
02:39:28,240 --> 02:39:31,560
Speaker 2: On with more Red Zone Radio here on Fox Sports

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Speaker 2: Radio