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Speaker 1: Classic Factory with an emergency pod because today here, on Tuesday,

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Speaker 1: November one, the Brooklyn Nets and Steve Nash have agreed

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Speaker 1: a win the nerve of this team. We want to

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Speaker 1: thank Steve for everything he brought to our franchise over

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Speaker 1: the past two plus seasons. This is General manager Sean

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Speaker 1: Marks in a release. Since becoming head coach, Steve was

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Speaker 1: faced with a number of unprecedented challenges and we are

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Speaker 1: sincerely grateful for his leadership, patience, and humility throughout his tenure.

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Speaker 1: Nash released his own statement once the news was announced.

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Speaker 1: He said a lot thanking the organization, thanking Nets fans.

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Speaker 1: My favorite part. Nash in his statement said, it was

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Speaker 1: him party ways. According to Sham's Jacques Vaughan, He's going

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Speaker 2: No, no, not a surprise. I want to know what's

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Speaker 2: Because if it's a firing, if it's more of a firing,

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of the word patience is important here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they messed up. They should have done this in

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Speaker 2: I'm with you, Skeets that it's like eighty twenty Nash.

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Speaker 2: So I say it's eighty twenty. Maybe it's fifty to

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Speaker 2: It wasn't doomed from the start, because, as you said,

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Speaker 2: So how do you buy into this roster if you're

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Speaker 1: To remember that there has to be another team that

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's you mean when you say they, you mean

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Speaker 1: But what about you, TK.

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Speaker 3: Well, the Nets will beat the Bulls tonight, that's gonna happen.

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Speaker 3: The fired coach bounced. That's a real thing. You get

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Speaker 2: I do believe in the coach bump, but nah, I

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Speaker 2: don't think so. They played last night, yeah, and they

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Speaker 2: I should say they barely beat them on Monday barely.

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Speaker 2: So no, I don't I don't have a lot of faith.

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Speaker 2: I don't have a lot of faith in the rebounding

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Speaker 2: for Nash in a way. He is, he's totally happy

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Speaker 2: for right now. I don't know if he's going to

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Speaker 2: But Ben Simmons is not the same player. And then

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Speaker 2: beyond that is what is the man supposed to do?

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Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, he didn't get you're right, he didn't

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Speaker 2: get defensive effort. But they're tiny, and yeah, I think

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Speaker 2: it's more of a roster thing than a head coach.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to find out here soon enough, I guess.

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Speaker 1: So I don't know. Well, we don't know if it's

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Speaker 1: when Udoka is even possibly taking over this team? Is

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Speaker 1: this happening like later this week?

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Speaker 4: Is this twenty four to forty eight hours?

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Speaker 1: Right? Yeah? Is that? Okay? Wow? Well then that's pretty quick.

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Speaker 1: Jacqu Vaughan could have a one and no record after tonight.

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Speaker 1: I guess he coached for the Magic for a long time. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he did coach for the preseasons there. Man.

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Speaker 3: That twenty twenty one Eastern Conference semi finals Bucks versus Nets,

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Speaker 3: talk about a sliding doors moment. Hell in the NBA,

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Speaker 3: the Nets were up to zero. We were talking about

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Speaker 3: Mike Budenholzer getting fired after Game three, right, Instead, they

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Speaker 3: won the championship that year, and the Nets have completely

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Speaker 3: that twenty twenty one. That's why they're bringing back Udoka.

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Speaker 3: They're like, we're all happy.

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Speaker 1: Back then.

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Speaker 4: We were having a great time.

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Speaker 3: That's when everybody was playing, and so everybody's on the court,

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Speaker 3: you know, all on the same team trying to do

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Speaker 2: Things have changed, Yeah, And Durant's tow was just a

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Speaker 2: little bit too long.

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Speaker 1: His shoes too big, shoes too big, like some roomy.

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Speaker 2: He likes some roomy. It's got narrow feet, you know.

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Speaker 1: He wears he's actually a size nine. I heard it's

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Speaker 1: like eighteen, all right. Any other final thoughts on Nash

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Speaker 1: and the nets parting ways and looking like Udoka is

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Speaker 1: going to take over this team. Anything else you got, no, Well,

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Speaker 1: let's hear from you as air. I know the stream

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Speaker 1: team going nuts here. Shout out to everybody joining us

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Speaker 1: live here on a Tuesday afternoon.

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Speaker 1: A lot of you joining us live. A lot of

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Speaker 1: F one podcast too, perfect timing. Yeah, you've been sitting

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Speaker 1: in this chair since like basically nine thirty this morning.

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Speaker 4: Well actually from one o'clock to two thirty. I us

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Speaker 4: sitting in that.

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Speaker 1: Oh it is switch it up.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, you know that's tast this chair.

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Speaker 2: It did feel a little cozier.

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Speaker 1: It was a warm for you.

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Speaker 2: This was quite warm. That's why I wore That's why

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Speaker 2: I wore shorts, because it's hot in here.

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Speaker 1: It is a little toasting here. He's got a jacket on.

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Speaker 1: I got a sweater on. You're looking like you're hitting

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Speaker 1: the beach. Which will do tomorrow? Get your questions? No,

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Speaker 1: Dunk's at the Athletic dot com. If you've got questions

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Speaker 1: about the nets and Nash and Udoka and anything related

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Speaker 1: dunks at the Athletic dot com or tweet them in

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Speaker 1: at no dunk Stick. Yeah, check out the f one

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Speaker 1: podcast No Breaks with Trey and Graydon. They just did it.

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Speaker 1: It just went up to go. Check that out. It's

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Speaker 1: got its own YouTube feed and podcast feed. All right,

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Speaker 1: we will see everyone. What do you think tasks in

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Speaker 1: a couple hours when Kyrie gets moved or something. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we'll give it three and a half hours. We'll see

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Speaker 1: it back here. If not, we'll see you tomorrow morning.

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Speaker 1: Clipper bros.

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Speaker 4: You heard it here first. Have a great time. Turn up,

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Speaker 4: love you guys. Awesome.

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Speaker 2: Oh thanks for joining a cent. Remember I've got nothing

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Speaker 2: to say, nothing interesting you say. See? Is there a

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Speaker 2: great Steve Nash line? Has he said anything extremely memorable?

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Speaker 1: He did the crazy face the other day.

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Speaker 2: He did the crazy face.

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Speaker 1: Still, ladies, had his finger hovered over that this entire podcast.

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Speaker 2: It looks like a Halloween mask that he just threw

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Speaker 2: on there in honor of Steven Ash. He was the

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Speaker 2: Savant of high fives. When he played a couple of

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Speaker 2: high fives for Steve.

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Speaker 1: That's praise today. People