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Speaker 2: This is Cowboys Storyline presented by Gillette, the official shave

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Speaker 2: of the Dallas Cowboys. Here's Nick Eatman.

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Speaker 1: What's up? Welcome to Cowboys storyline presented by Gillette. I'm

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Speaker 1: Nick Eatman. It's Wednesday, January the twenty first. We're back

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Speaker 1: to just once show a week, but we do get

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Speaker 1: about an hour and a half, so got plenty of

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Speaker 1: time for you guys to call in. Guys that call

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Speaker 1: in all the time, people that haven't called in a while,

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Speaker 1: which seems like we've got some of that. We got

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Speaker 1: both of that on the line so far. All right,

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Speaker 1: Cowboys news or lack of news. Still waiting to see

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Speaker 1: what's going to happen with the defensive coordinator position. They

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Speaker 1: obviously have interviewed a lot of people, and it looks

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Speaker 1: like some coaches are getting interviewed or getting a request

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Speaker 1: to go to other places. So this is that time.

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Speaker 1: A lot of shuffling going on. The Senior Bowl is

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Speaker 1: next week. We've got the Shrine Bowl this week. Here

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Speaker 1: in that the Sports Center over in frist Go right

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Speaker 1: over here and it looks like they got a little

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Speaker 1: bit more players this year, a better players, better quality guys.

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Speaker 1: So two All Star Games kind of happened at once.

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Speaker 1: It still feels like the Senior Bowl is the one

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Speaker 1: that's going to have, you know, more more talent. Cowboys

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Speaker 1: with two first round picks, no day two picks as

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Speaker 1: it stands, and usually in the Senior Bowl, that's kind

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Speaker 1: of where you're going to get a lot of those guys,

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Speaker 1: a lot of second, third rounders. Occasionally you'll have some

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Speaker 1: some first rounders. And I would imagine there'll be a

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Speaker 1: couple that'll be there at the Senior Bowl, the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: we'll be able to talk to. We'll have some of

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Speaker 1: our crew there, Kyle Yeomans and Tommy Yarsh will be there,

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Speaker 1: and then they'll have a couple of Jeff shows from there.

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Speaker 1: All right. As far as Pro Bowl news, Jake Ferguson

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Speaker 1: was added to the Pro Bowl. Cowboys now have six

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Speaker 1: players that make the Pro Bowl. That that news was

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Speaker 1: just announced, So Ferguson makes it for the second time,

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Speaker 1: and I think he replaced the George Kettle who was

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Speaker 1: injured in the playoffs. So Trey McBride, Jake ferguson the

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Speaker 1: two tight ends from the NFC. All right, let's go

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Speaker 1: to the phone lines. Let's go Josh and Princeton. Josh,

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Speaker 1: what's up man?

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Speaker 3: Hey, what's up Nick?

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Speaker 1: How you doing?

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Speaker 4: I'm doing good. I've been listening to all the shows.

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Speaker 4: Haven't called into in a while, but I wanted to

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Speaker 4: mission something that I don't think I've heard anybody say yet.

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Speaker 4: But you remember Vegas had the Cowboys in the preseason

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Speaker 4: or the offseason, had the Cowboys winning seven games, and

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Speaker 4: I remember everybody being in disbelief based on like the

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Speaker 4: offense and everything like that, And I never thought that

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Speaker 4: they were only win seven games unless your injury. So

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Speaker 4: I just want to bring it.

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Speaker 1: Up, like, when when was that? Was that before the

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Speaker 1: trade or after the trade? You said it was in

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was in the off season, so they already

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Speaker 4: had pickings. I know that, and Dak was healthy, so yeah, again,

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Speaker 4: I think that was before the Forces trade too, I believe. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: they had the Cowboys winning seven games, So I'm like,

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Speaker 4: how do they do that? How do they ridiculate?

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Speaker 1: Well, you know, you're right, and it happens. It happens

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Speaker 1: Bundy and then then it doesn't happen sometimes, And and

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Speaker 1: you know what, where did they have the Bears? Where

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Speaker 1: other surprising teams. But you know that's interesting because I

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Speaker 1: really believe if you if Micah was on this team

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Speaker 1: have a much better team. So but hey, maybe Vegas

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Speaker 1: knew about the trade before anyone else did. Who knows.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and there one one last point about the off season.

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Speaker 4: So when DeMarcus Lawrence got pulled when he got picked

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Speaker 4: up the Seahawks, and he made the whole super Bowl quote,

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Speaker 4: I'm not gonna win the Super Bowl in Dallas, but

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Speaker 1: So yeah, well, wait to pump some sunshine into the show. Josh,

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Speaker 1: thanks for for getting it started for us. That's awesome,

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Speaker 1: all right, now, you're you're right, Thanks for thanks for

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Speaker 1: the call. And yeah, when when DeMarcus said that, I

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl. It wasn't about that. It was it was

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Speaker 1: that stuff. When I guarantee, if the Cowboys had made

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Speaker 1: had nothing to me. It had nothing to do with

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Speaker 1: all that super Bowl talk. You can say that, but

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Speaker 1: it was really I think it was a battle of

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Speaker 1: all right, Irene Falls Church, Virginia, Irene. What's up?

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Speaker 5: Hey, good morning, How are you good?

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Speaker 1: How are you doing good?

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Speaker 6: Pretty good?

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Speaker 5: Ready for arctic blasts coming in and snow, So we'll go.

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Speaker 1: Ye, make sure it will be every Monday on this sometimes,

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Speaker 1: so they'll they'll be. I'll have it covered for you

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Speaker 5: I'll call in on Monday anyway.

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Speaker 5: So as far as our coaching search goes, I think

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Speaker 5: up with Scannon. So is there any buddy else out there?

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Speaker 9: Do you think that we're going.

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Speaker 5: What's the vibe in the building on that?

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Speaker 9: My question for all right?

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Speaker 1: Appreciate it. I mean good stuff. You know, there's no

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Speaker 1: doesn't mean that something can't change. I just, you know,

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Speaker 1: I find it funny when a lot of people say

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Speaker 1: be honest, I don't know. I don't know anything. And

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Speaker 1: Jonathan Gannon didn't have the quote that everyone's referring to

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Speaker 1: about you driving to work today you got fire in

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Speaker 1: All I know is that I was totally on board

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Speaker 1: But I'd be fine if they drafted two. I haven't

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Speaker 1: Ryan and Kansas City.

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Speaker 10: Good morning, sir. How are you good?

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Speaker 1: How are you doing?

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Speaker 10: I'm all right, man. Not to be the Mickey Spagnola

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Speaker 10: weather report, but I think it might even be warmer

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Speaker 10: up here than it is down there, which just never happens.

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Speaker 10: Somebody was telling me it's going to get down to

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Speaker 10: you guys stay safe and warm and if you get

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Speaker 1: All right, well, we'll see, we'll see how all goes.

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Speaker 1: I mean it, this is the way this leads off

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Speaker 1: the news. I mean, you know what I mean, the Cowboys,

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Speaker 1: there's snow flurries in the air, I mean, that's going

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Speaker 1: to lead it off. And then after that, you know,

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Speaker 10: And the terrible luck to have that weather for their

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Speaker 10: just just the awful day.

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Speaker 1: That it was week yeah.

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Speaker 10: Yep, yeah. Hey, So I wanted to talk about the

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Speaker 10: defensive backs for a second, and I got to I'll

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Speaker 10: just join in with you saying that I was on

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Speaker 10: board with eber Flus two. Yeah, he was supposed to

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Speaker 1: All right, appreciate it. Thanks. I would be fine with

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Speaker 1: You know, I just got done saying I'd be fine

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Speaker 1: Josh in Chicago, Man.

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Speaker 7: Hey, not too much.

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Speaker 12: How you been.

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Speaker 7: I've been thinking I got to start trying like some

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Speaker 7: before we start our arguments.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you already have one?

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Speaker 11: What's that?

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Speaker 1: And you actually didn't bring it to me, what do

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Speaker 7: Yeah, exactly, Atlanta, you probably think exactly.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, definitely. So, Hey, I was thinking about what you're

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Speaker 7: just saying. Man, and two thousand and five, you know,

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Speaker 7: I would like to see him kind of come in

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Speaker 8: Take off the air.

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Speaker 7: A few weeks ago, we were talking a lot about commitment.

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Speaker 7: Who's been the most committed player you've seen in terms

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Speaker 7: Hold on, ever, ever, ever, yeah, ever since you've been covering,

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Speaker 7: since you've been covering the team. Yeah, because I think

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Speaker 14: And Nick. Hey, Lester, Hey, man, I'm no more injured players.

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Speaker 14: Player because, like I've been saying, they can't most of

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Speaker 14: but for the first season, they're really kind of useless,

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Speaker 14: you know. I mean they can learn, they can learn

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Speaker 14: to playbook and all that, but they're not really participating

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Speaker 14: and and everything else. So let's Nate once said, when

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Speaker 14: you play football and you get injured, you don't You're

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Speaker 14: not you don't get healthier. You tend to be more injured,

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Speaker 14: you know, as you go along. I don't, you know,

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Speaker 14: I don't. I only play high school football. But that

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Speaker 14: made sense. I mean, he played for years, so I

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Speaker 14: believe what he's saying. So therefore that's why I say,

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Speaker 14: you know, I mean, you can find some injured players,

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Speaker 14: I guess, but man, let's let's get them way down

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Speaker 14: the line that's there for six round or something.

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Speaker 1: Well, okay, all right, Lester, I mean appreciate the call.

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Speaker 1: And there's there's a lot to that. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: think just now, that's calls that we've had, and I

448
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Speaker 1: don't think you would disagree with Brian from Kansas City

449
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Speaker 1: that you know, sounds pretty optimistic about Rebel. So you

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Speaker 1: okay with that? You okay with saying I'm gonna take

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Speaker 1: this guy in the third round. Uh, he probably would

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Speaker 1: have been a first rounder. You know, we'll see how

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Speaker 1: that that year went out, but that was the projection.

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Speaker 1: But he's not gonna give you a lot in this

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Speaker 1: first season. And then you know, he came in, he

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Speaker 1: played some, So now when he goes out there, this

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Speaker 1: is not the first time he's ever played. He probably

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Speaker 1: needs to play some in the preseason and all and

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Speaker 1: all that stuff. But that's that's what he needs. But

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Speaker 1: you have that under his belt and let's see if

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Speaker 1: he can develop into that. I think most teams were,

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Speaker 1: most people, fans were fine with that. So it just

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Speaker 1: kind of depends. I mean, third round to me is

464
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Speaker 1: kind of the cutoff. But I think the issue that

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Speaker 1: I've always had is doing it in the second round

466
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Speaker 1: when your free agent approach has never been that strong.

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Speaker 1: It's always been let's build through the draft, build through

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Speaker 1: the draft, maybe take a flyer here and there in

469
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Speaker 1: free agency, but you're not breaking the bank there. The

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Speaker 1: focus was always the draft. That's fine, but your second

471
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Speaker 1: round pick can't be that risky. Then that that was

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Speaker 1: kind of my issue one way or another. Either go

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Speaker 1: crazy in free agency and then you know, try to

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Speaker 1: get some value in these drafts, or if you're not

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Speaker 1: going to do that and if you're really going to

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Speaker 1: focus on the draft and get me some guys that

477
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Speaker 1: could come and step right in and play. And so

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Speaker 1: that's we'll see. You know, I don't have a second

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Speaker 1: round pick, but well, we'll see. But that approach really

480
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Speaker 1: didn't work that well. I mentioned Sean Lee that was

481
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Speaker 1: twenty ten. They had them graded high as a first rounder,

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Speaker 1: got him in the second round. Since then, some of

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Speaker 1: those plays like that really didn't pan out. So all right,

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Speaker 1: let's go one more call it before we go to break.

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Speaker 1: Chris and San Angelo. Chris, what's up man?

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Speaker 8: Hey, mister Nick, how you Bud good?

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Speaker 1: How are you?

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Speaker 13: I'm doing well? Thank you?

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Speaker 8: Hey?

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Speaker 13: I just had one question. It kind of it kind

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Speaker 13: of feeds off of Irene's first question, but just another

492
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Speaker 13: different take with all of the head coach vacancies now

493
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Speaker 13: they will. Do you think that the Cowboys should act

494
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Speaker 13: quick on the defensive coordinator because of all of the

495
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Speaker 13: staff that are going to need to be filled, or

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Speaker 13: do you think they should hold off until like another

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Speaker 13: playoff round and finish the search then, because it seems

498
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Speaker 13: like a little predicament, you know, because I'd like to

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Speaker 13: see some urgency, but also don't want them to settle.

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Speaker 13: So I just want to see what you thought about it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know that there's a lot to that. Thanks

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Speaker 1: thanks for the call that that's that's good thinking there,

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Speaker 1: because you know, there's other opportunities that that that play

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Speaker 1: you know a factor here. Some of these guys maybe

505
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Speaker 1: are trying to be head coaches, some of them maybe

506
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Speaker 1: want to be coordinators on on other teams, and and

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Speaker 1: the on the opportunity depending on, you know, what kind

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Speaker 1: of success you can have there. You know, you look

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Speaker 1: at this team right now, and and if you're a coordinator,

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Speaker 1: obviously the guys that want to be a coordinator that

511
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Speaker 1: that you know they're trying to get to that level,

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Speaker 1: then yeah, you take your opportunity. But if you've got

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Speaker 1: multiple chances, let's let's be honest about it. I mean,

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Speaker 1: is this the best spot if I don't know, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I don't know how to compare some others you've got.

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Speaker 1: You've got some pieces here, you know, especially a defensive

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Speaker 1: tackle you can definitely build around. But you know, it's it.

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Speaker 1: It was the worst defense in the NFL and in

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Speaker 1: a lot of categories and the only the only team

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Speaker 1: here in franchise history that that's allowed thirty points a game.

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Speaker 1: So there's a lot of improvement needed here. Now the

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Speaker 1: bar is low. You come in here and make this

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Speaker 1: thing the number fourteenth the best defense in the league.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they're not gonna they're not gonna bang. You know,

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Speaker 1: they're not gonna hang a banner, but they're definitely gonna gonna,

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Speaker 1: you know, say this guy, this guy knows what he's doing. So, uh,

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Speaker 1: it's a good place to come in here and try

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Speaker 1: to and try to change something. So it's all about perspective,

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Speaker 1: it's all about the right fit. I think the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: would love to find the right guy here, but you know,

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Speaker 1: they they're gonna, I don't know about take their time.

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Speaker 1: I mean that they've been pretty aggressive here, but at

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Speaker 1: this point, uh, you know, they got to make sure

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Speaker 1: Michael Bowling, Green, Kentucky.

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Speaker 11: Okay, First off, I am not going to mention the

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Speaker 11: weather he just did. Second, I heard a podcast this

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Speaker 11: morning they said they were getting a little nervous with

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Speaker 11: how long they were taking to find a DC. What's

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Speaker 11: your opinion on that. Are they doing right by really

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Speaker 11: doing their due diligence and taking a lot of time

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Speaker 11: or is it time to pick one?

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Speaker 1: Can I wait until like about week six of the

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Speaker 1: season and see how good the defense is. And then

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Speaker 1: then and then I'll say, you know what, whatever they

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Speaker 1: end up doing it is like that, that's fine. Like honestly,

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Speaker 1: like I don't really care that much. I mean as

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Speaker 1: far as when, when it is and when, you know,

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Speaker 1: just get just get the right guy, pick the right one.

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Speaker 1: I mean, what what if what if they rushed I mean.

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Speaker 11: I don't think about it.

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Speaker 1: They had that they did. I mean, they didn't have

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Speaker 1: a head coach, they had a defensive coordinator. That seems

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Speaker 1: pretty rushed. You're cool with that. I mean, so, okay,

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Speaker 1: I just answered my own question. Just get the right guy.

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Speaker 1: Just get the right guy. Hopefully it's not long it takes.

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Speaker 1: I don't think so. I mean, you know if if

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Speaker 1: they they maybe they offer a guy right now and

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Speaker 1: he's like, well he's not interested, I mean he's not

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Speaker 1: ready to commit. Well then then maybe it's not the

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Speaker 1: right guy. It'll it'll it'll be fine, it'll it'll work.

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Speaker 1: They'll have they'll have the right guy in here and

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Speaker 1: you know, ready to go. I don't think you rush it.

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Speaker 1: You know, maybe it was rushed last year and then

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Speaker 1: that didn't work. So I'll say take your time a

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Speaker 1: little bit on.

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Speaker 11: It, all right, I was just going opinion.

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Speaker 1: What's yours? What's yours?

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Speaker 11: I mean, I think they need I mean, I know

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Speaker 11: they're probably waiting till next week, hopefully Denver loses and

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Speaker 11: then they another guy that can tell it to But uh,

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Speaker 11: I don't know. I think uh, I think I'd rather

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Speaker 11: go slow and make the right get the right right guy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I think I think so too. I mean,

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Speaker 1: because if you if you came back and said, well,

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Speaker 1: they kind of wanted these guys, but they got impatient

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Speaker 1: so that they just took this guy, and you know,

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Speaker 1: now here they are in the in the same boat.

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Speaker 1: I mean, but you know, when you when you're in

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Speaker 1: those if you're in those positions, you know, and and

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Speaker 1: it doesn't matter if it's football coaches or not, if

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Speaker 1: just kind of you kind of have a good feeling

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Speaker 1: about it, you know, and you're like, whatever it is,

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Speaker 1: and maybe it's the first guy interview, maybe it's the

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Speaker 1: last one, maybe it's somewhere in between, but you kind

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Speaker 1: of know. And and this is not to be not

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Speaker 1: to joke about it, but this is kind of the

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Speaker 1: first time the shot. He's really really done this. Now.

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Speaker 1: I know that they said he was a part of

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Speaker 1: the Eberflus thing and all that, but he's trying to

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Speaker 1: be the head coach. He's trying to be the head coach.

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Speaker 1: He's get in here, you know, and and hey, ever

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Speaker 1: Flus the guy? Sure, Yeah, he's the guy. Are you

645
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:07,720
Speaker 1: cool with that? Yeah, he's he's good linebacker, whisper all that,

646
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 1: you know. But now he's really really kind of doing it.

647
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:14,240
Speaker 1: So it'll it's got to be the right person for him.

648
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 1: And then if it's the right person for him, then

649
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 1: it should be the right one for the whole staff.

650
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 11: Well, probably announce this afternoon the defensive course.

651
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:26,520
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well if that's the case, then, you know, then

652
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 1: then we'll say good a lot of time, you know,

653
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 1: to hit the ground running, all right, Michael, Good stuff,

654
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:36,480
Speaker 1: Alie and Florida.

655
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 9: Good morning, sir.

656
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 1: How are you doing pretty good?

657
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:40,560
Speaker 18: Buddy?

658
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 1: How about you great?

659
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 9: I I gotta stat for you since you love a stat.

660
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:50,760
Speaker 11: Okay, and.

661
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 9: I'm not so knowledgeable, but it's pretty close. You can't

662
00:32:56,480 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 9: correct me if I'm wrong. Seems passiven years Cowboys play

663
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 9: and Cowboys drafted sixty four players. Then they signed eighty

664
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 9: one undrafted free agent for total of one hundred and

665
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 9: forty five player. Out of all that they have four

666
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 9: plow pro bowler and ten starter Bath Hoffman, frie Go, Steel, Hunter,

667
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 9: so forth. So me and you and you personally even

668
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:40,720
Speaker 9: go through the first round, second round, I mean the

669
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 9: draft department, scouting department Cowboys with the last I looked

670
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 9: a top nine ninth position of the best team drafting players.

671
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:55,640
Speaker 9: But they have a hit at all. They need to

672
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 9: bring the little heat on these guys. Then as far

673
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 9: as the draft pick, the twelve pick, they're usually be successful.

674
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:10,920
Speaker 9: I wouldn't trade that, except right now, the Oregon quarterback

675
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:15,399
Speaker 9: is going back to school. I think Jet has two

676
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:19,440
Speaker 9: first round there. I think it's the number sixteen or fifteen.

677
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 9: So and then you got called. You got some of

678
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:27,280
Speaker 9: these team they might want to pick up a little

679
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:30,880
Speaker 9: bit later on quarterback. I don't mind if they go

680
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 9: from twelve to fifteen or fourteen pick up an extra pit,

681
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:39,239
Speaker 9: especially Jet because they have some of our pick. Then

682
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:44,880
Speaker 9: on the twentieth I would definitely consider vote for the

683
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:50,400
Speaker 9: guy on the West coast. And then you have really

684
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:55,840
Speaker 9: nice defensive line between the clerk and Clinton and him

685
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:59,439
Speaker 9: and fill in the blank. I think that would be

686
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:03,320
Speaker 9: because right now, don't not hitting it. I think between

687
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 9: Themester Jones and back timeline we have to bring some

688
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:12,800
Speaker 9: first day free agent to fill the blank. And I

689
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:15,319
Speaker 9: love you, brother, thank you so much for what you do,

690
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:16,760
Speaker 9: all right, and I'll hang over.

691
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 1: This all right, appreciate it. Um, I'm not gonna sit

692
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 1: here and say that that you know they've been great

693
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 1: at drafting. Those numbers you threw out, I think I

694
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:36,160
Speaker 1: heard you say seven seven drafts and four Pro Bowlers.

695
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 1: It's not accurate if that's what I heard. Thought I

696
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 1: heard it that way. Seven drafts. It takes you back

697
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 1: to twenty nineteen. So I've got since twenty nineteen guys

698
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 1: that you drafted that made the Pro Bowl. Eight so

699
00:35:55,120 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 1: be Ottish Pollard, Cee Diggs, Micah Tyler Smith, thron Bland, Ferguson.

700
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:08,319
Speaker 1: Now they had in the last three drafts twenty three,

701
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:11,880
Speaker 1: twenty four to twenty five. It's three years you haven't

702
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 1: drafted one yet and your first round picks down on

703
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 1: the team and Mazzie Smith so hasn't been great here lately,

704
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 1: but kind of went back seven years and you know

705
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:25,880
Speaker 1: seven years you got you got eight Pro bowlers. Now.

706
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:28,879
Speaker 1: I just saw this the other day. Connor McGovern from

707
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:32,719
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen third round pick Penn State was here for years,

708
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:36,279
Speaker 1: a few years, played some guard, then went to the

709
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:38,719
Speaker 1: Bills and a free agency he made the Pro Bowl.

710
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:40,359
Speaker 1: I didn't even realize he made the Pro Bowl two

711
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:42,840
Speaker 1: years ago there, So I don't know if that counts

712
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 1: as drafting a Pro bowler. He Pro Bowl with another team.

713
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 1: But it's been it's been okay in the first round,

714
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:55,239
Speaker 1: first second round. But you know, they haven't really hit

715
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:58,360
Speaker 1: a lot of big big names there, especially in the

716
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:01,839
Speaker 1: later rounds. That one year, twenty twenty two, they did

717
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 1: Ferguson in the fourth, Bland in the fifth. That that was.

718
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:09,799
Speaker 1: That was good. But since then they were, or even

719
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 1: a couple of years before then the fourth, fifth, round, six, seventh,

720
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:15,719
Speaker 1: really haven't had a lot. Uh, don't do it all right,

721
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:23,799
Speaker 1: let's go our next caller, Chris. We got another caller? Yes, yes,

722
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:25,440
Speaker 1: Davion Da. What's that man?

723
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:27,279
Speaker 9: What to do?

724
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:27,760
Speaker 18: Buddy?

725
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:28,320
Speaker 8: What a do? Ma?

726
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 1: How you doing?

727
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 19: Man? We're good. I was at a couple of NDS

728
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 19: run this morning. I prout of I wouldn't.

729
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:35,799
Speaker 11: I ain't.

730
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:37,759
Speaker 19: I ain't get on earth like I normally do. But

731
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:42,920
Speaker 19: everything's all good. I guess I was. I mean here

732
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 19: watching and listening to the show for a little bit,

733
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:49,320
Speaker 19: and I guess I don't understand why our fan base don't.

734
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:52,839
Speaker 19: Is the cowboy, damned the duke, damnits? They don't. I mean,

735
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 19: if we rush and hire a guy, you mad, we

736
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 19: take a time. Everybody pan again.

737
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 20: Uh uh.

738
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 19: I kind of like the process we're doing now because

739
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 19: I think we're actually doing what you're supposed to do.

740
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 19: Take your time, pick the right guy. Uh Because at

741
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:13,719
Speaker 19: the end of the day, that's all I want, because I,

742
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:16,000
Speaker 19: like I told you I think a couple of weeks back,

743
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:18,719
Speaker 19: I just want that to get a defense like these

744
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:21,560
Speaker 19: other other guys got, because I mean, you see the

745
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 19: quarterbacks in the final Foe. I'm that's better than all them.

746
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:28,880
Speaker 19: And we're sitting at home right now. So get me,

747
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:33,480
Speaker 19: get my guy a defense. Let's go to work. I'm like,

748
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:36,239
Speaker 19: that's that's where where I'm at. Let's find me, find

749
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:39,240
Speaker 19: me some guys. Find me a guy that's gonna beata

750
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 19: to put where Dad can actually have turnover to not

751
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 19: mean to be just kill us. Don't happen. Turnover's happening,

752
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:52,879
Speaker 19: but you just it's just it's crazy that I don't

753
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:54,799
Speaker 19: know why a fan base is fanicing now that we're

754
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:57,360
Speaker 19: taking our time and actually trying to go through the process.

755
00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:01,239
Speaker 19: Charny told us it was gonna be a wide ned

756
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:03,879
Speaker 19: and they gonna take their time. So I don't know

757
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 19: why everybody's like what they do is he told you

758
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 19: what will go happen? Is it is oladist. I'm like,

759
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 19: I'm not sure to get the right guy they My

760
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 19: favorite is Jones, Barker or lind Hard. I don't really

761
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:22,680
Speaker 19: want Ganning because I don't think Gannon. I think Gannon

762
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 19: is gonna be just more the same, probably a little

763
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:27,600
Speaker 19: bit federvation, but I don't think he's gonna be what

764
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:30,480
Speaker 19: we need to really get us where we need to go.

765
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm I'm with you. I'm with you on that.

766
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:38,440
Speaker 1: You know a lot of that comes from kind of

767
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:41,919
Speaker 1: like eber Flus from last year. You know, you got

768
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 1: a guy who was fired from as a head coach,

769
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:49,560
Speaker 1: and then he brought in a lot of defensive guys

770
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:52,840
Speaker 1: from a team that wasn't very good. Now the Bears

771
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 1: are good this year, but they weren't. They weren't good.

772
00:39:55,760 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 1: So you know, it's the same type of thing gonna happen.

773
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 1: Are you bringing in Cardinals guys? You know what I mean?

774
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:07,800
Speaker 1: So I wouldn't think that that would be the case.

775
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:10,879
Speaker 1: But you know, you look at the offense last year.

776
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:14,240
Speaker 1: I mean, the offense didn't have guys that had worked together.

777
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:16,359
Speaker 1: They had guys from all over the place. They kind

778
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:17,880
Speaker 1: of meshed in here together.

779
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:19,920
Speaker 19: And that and that worked and that. We're just so

780
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 19: when Shanny tell you these things, listen to your coach.

781
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 19: You say, I'm taking my time. I'm gonna find a guy. Yeah,

782
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:31,319
Speaker 19: so I'm find a guy before I go. We got

783
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:34,799
Speaker 19: a space tomorrow, you know we we we uh storyline

784
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:37,960
Speaker 19: it at the dark but uh but yeah, man, let's

785
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:39,600
Speaker 19: just take our time. Get the right guy. That's what

786
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:41,919
Speaker 19: I'm all about. Man, final Let's get the right gass

787
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:43,640
Speaker 19: and we can go make this running the same for

788
00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:44,640
Speaker 19: the next three years.

789
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:50,719
Speaker 1: All right, sounds good? Thanks dateon appreciate that. Sounds like,

790
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:54,440
Speaker 1: you know, getting the right guy is obviously going to

791
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:56,919
Speaker 1: be the key, and now you want to know who

792
00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:59,400
Speaker 1: who it is. And I think I think there's a

793
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 1: fear that that if you wait too long, you're going

794
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 1: to end up with, you know, not the right guy

795
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:07,719
Speaker 1: or somebody that's not not qualified. But I think with

796
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:10,640
Speaker 1: all these names they're thrown out there, and you know,

797
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:15,319
Speaker 1: hopefully that they've liked a lot of them, that they're

798
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 1: not going to be left hold in the bag here.

799
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 1: Then there's gonna be an opportunity to get somebody good

800
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:23,239
Speaker 1: in here, all right, Zach in Atlanta, Zach, what's up?

801
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 8: Hey? What's up?

802
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:25,760
Speaker 6: Nick? And Frisco?

803
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 1: How are you doing?

804
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 6: I'm good man to give a layup to my brother

805
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 6: cousin Josh and Chicago. I believe he said, may it

806
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:37,799
Speaker 6: please the courts before we start this argument. That's how

807
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 6: he's trying to start his call. So shout out Josh

808
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:44,360
Speaker 6: man always when he calls in. First of all, keep Jeep.

809
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:47,880
Speaker 6: That's that's everything, man. And what do I mean by that?

810
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:48,799
Speaker 8: Keep Jeep?

811
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:53,480
Speaker 6: Either find him before we end up in a fourth

812
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 6: straight year of a nasty contract negotiation, or tag him

813
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 6: and trade him for value. But I don't want to

814
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:03,640
Speaker 6: live in the middle land of dragging this out all

815
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:07,440
Speaker 6: the way into camp day before the season starts, like Dak,

816
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:11,239
Speaker 6: like CD, like Micah, You know, if you're gonna sign him,

817
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 6: sign him early. If you're gonna trade him, trade him

818
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:16,799
Speaker 6: in the draft process, figure it out. He makes our

819
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 6: team better objectively, but you know there's numbers and there's

820
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:23,879
Speaker 6: other factors. So keep jeep and made the cards fall

821
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 6: where they lay second thing or half away.

822
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:31,719
Speaker 1: Man hold one, Zach, let me ask you this, how

823
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:36,280
Speaker 1: nasty were those? Were those contract negotiations? And Micah Michael?

824
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 1: I mean that was that was terrible and ended up

825
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:42,239
Speaker 1: as a trade. That that's the epitome of that. Were

826
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:46,200
Speaker 1: the other ones nasty? I mean was Zach Martin? And

827
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:50,400
Speaker 1: and CD? And I mean Dak wasn't I mean, he

828
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:53,400
Speaker 1: was here the whole time. I'm I'm not trying to

829
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 1: to argue. I'm just saying I think you're right. They

830
00:42:57,160 --> 00:43:02,400
Speaker 1: dragged on. But CD, Zach Martin, I mean, Zach, is

831
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 1: that kind a nice press conference here? Dak's made the

832
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl, I think the last couple of years. CD,

833
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 1: I mean, so the Mica I can't argue with you.

834
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:12,960
Speaker 1: There that was as nasty as it could get. He

835
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:17,279
Speaker 1: got public, he got personal, and they got mad, and

836
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:21,319
Speaker 1: now look what happened. You're absolutely right about that, But

837
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:24,479
Speaker 1: do you would you say four straight years? I mean

838
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 1: of that.

839
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:30,839
Speaker 6: It well, knowing Mula Getta, I think that's Pickens's entered

840
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:31,839
Speaker 6: the same group at least.

841
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you.

842
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 6: Know, I love Pickens on the field. You know, who

843
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 6: knows how it would go down in a contract negotiation holdout.

844
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:40,440
Speaker 8: I wouldn't say DAK and.

845
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 6: CD was nasty, but to hold out the drama, it's

846
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 6: just like.

847
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 1: It's a distraction. There's no bad about that. I mean

848
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 1: there's a.

849
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:51,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, no no. And that's recentcy too. The micro stuff

850
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:54,960
Speaker 6: of course, yeah, I mean not all of it's horrible

851
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:57,680
Speaker 6: and nasty. Yeah, it's just unnecessary. It's like many like

852
00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:00,960
Speaker 6: if if this is your guy, sign up, don't drag

853
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:02,719
Speaker 6: it out. You end up paying more than you want

854
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:05,440
Speaker 6: to in the end. Nobody's gonna sniff sixty million for

855
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:08,880
Speaker 6: a quarterback. Like nobody's doing that. All these new contracts

856
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 6: are fifty five or below. So and that's been great.

857
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:15,239
Speaker 6: But anyways, yeah, so that's my thing, keypjep. But you

858
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:17,879
Speaker 6: know there's some nuance there. Second thing, and I'll take

859
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:22,640
Speaker 6: this off air. With the draft process for the twenty tens,

860
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:25,799
Speaker 6: that seemed like all the Pro bowlers were coming in

861
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:27,840
Speaker 6: and you know, we're drafted some Hall of famers and

862
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:31,799
Speaker 6: all that. I wonder if this came up maybe on

863
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 6: a space or another podcast or even the show. But

864
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:40,160
Speaker 6: Jason Garrett, his dad was a talent or an NFL scout.

865
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:42,280
Speaker 12: I wonder if he had a lot.

866
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:45,759
Speaker 6: Of sway and I mean all the field results in

867
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 6: playoff success is one thing, but he did. He was

868
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:51,359
Speaker 6: part of a lot of drafts where we drafted some

869
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:53,800
Speaker 6: phenomenal players. And so do you think that factored in

870
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:56,680
Speaker 6: at all? And with that, I'll hang up, man, take.

871
00:44:56,600 --> 00:45:03,360
Speaker 1: Care, all right? It factored in some, you know, because

872
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:06,839
Speaker 1: he was Jim Garrett was a you know, was on

873
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 1: the staff. But the reason why I'm kind of laughing

874
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:16,400
Speaker 1: is is when I think of him evaluating players he

875
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 1: didn't have. He obviously didn't have the final say because

876
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:24,480
Speaker 1: it's Jim Garrett that said this isn't the boy scouts.

877
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:28,919
Speaker 1: You know, in nineteen ninety eight, when the Cowboys were

878
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 1: deciding not to draft Randy Moss, it was Jim Garrett

879
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 1: that stood up there and said, guys, this is the

880
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:38,399
Speaker 1: best football player in the draft. This is the best

881
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 1: guy on our board. Yes there's issues here, but this

882
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 1: is not the boy Scouts. You know, let's get him here,

883
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 1: and he absolutely wanted him. And obviously the Cowboys at

884
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:50,880
Speaker 1: the time, you know, based off of the end of

885
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:53,400
Speaker 1: the nineties and with Michael Irvin here and all the

886
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:55,440
Speaker 1: things that happened, and maybe it wouldn't have worked out,

887
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:57,400
Speaker 1: but man, I would have loved to see it. So

888
00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:00,799
Speaker 1: but I think more than anything, I think think, you know,

889
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:06,880
Speaker 1: having that background helped Jason Garrett as well. Now, Jason,

890
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:10,680
Speaker 1: you know from the talks, from what I had always

891
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:14,279
Speaker 1: heard about Jason is that he didn't make up his

892
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:16,960
Speaker 1: mind a whole lot. He kind of went back and

893
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:19,839
Speaker 1: forth a lot. And it wasn't a lot of times

894
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 1: where he was like that's it, that's the guy. But

895
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:25,880
Speaker 1: you know, he kind of had a vision of what

896
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:28,239
Speaker 1: he wanted. The one thing about Jason Garrett when he

897
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:32,759
Speaker 1: got here, what he helped, what he helped do was say,

898
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:36,280
Speaker 1: I don't care about the history that we haven't drafted

899
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:38,839
Speaker 1: all these offensive linemen. That's what we need to turn

900
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 1: this thing around. So in his very first draft, he

901
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:43,640
Speaker 1: got Jerry to do something he had never done, and

902
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 1: that's taken offensive lineman in the first round. And guess

903
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:48,239
Speaker 1: what two years later he did it again, and the

904
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:51,239
Speaker 1: next year he did it again. So they've drafted three

905
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:54,160
Speaker 1: offensive linemen in the first round in a four year pattern.

906
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:57,760
Speaker 1: Well guess what Cowboys have also done that right now?

907
00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:01,560
Speaker 1: Tyler Smith, Tyler Guiton, Tyler Booker, last four drafts three

908
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:03,759
Speaker 1: offensive line and has it worked out the same though

909
00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:07,960
Speaker 1: it hasn't, but it could. It could get there. I mean,

910
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:10,919
Speaker 1: because to these guards, are you know, really really good?

911
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:16,120
Speaker 1: All right, let's go Robin Vegas, Hey, Nick, Rob, what's up?

912
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:17,880
Speaker 8: No?

913
00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:19,960
Speaker 12: How's everything great?

914
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 1: Great? Doing great? Here? Sonny Dallas.

915
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:30,920
Speaker 12: I'm not going to talk about it. Everybody's talking about

916
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:36,080
Speaker 12: this coaching search, and I'm like, I hope people don't

917
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 12: think a coach could come in here and turn this

918
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:43,560
Speaker 12: defensive roster around, because they can't. There's not much talent

919
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:49,719
Speaker 12: on defense and the best guys just got here. So

920
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:53,839
Speaker 12: the thing that bothers me about this coaching search is

921
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 12: Cowboys don't bring in the best coaches anymore. They just

922
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:00,799
Speaker 12: bring in guys. I mean, you got Laura is out there.

923
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 12: Washington brought Flores in for an interview, and we haven't.

924
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:09,520
Speaker 12: Schwartz is out there. He hasn't come in and it

925
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:12,480
Speaker 12: just goes to show. Even you look at the playoffs

926
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:15,760
Speaker 12: and you got the Sean Payton could have had him Rabel,

927
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:19,640
Speaker 12: and I mean, we just we don't. We don't get

928
00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 12: those guys anymore. It's either because they realize I don't

929
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:26,400
Speaker 12: need to go there to be on the big stage.

930
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 12: I definitely don't want to work so Jerry or Jerry

931
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:32,640
Speaker 12: just doesn't want to pay. I mean, we talked about it.

932
00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:37,440
Speaker 12: He doesn't want to pay coaches, and so we're going

933
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:40,040
Speaker 12: to get some guy, young guy, maybe this guy Leonard,

934
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:44,879
Speaker 12: who knows I think the carrot is. Jerry could say, well,

935
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:47,160
Speaker 12: you know, you could be the head coach of the

936
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:50,560
Speaker 12: Cowboys next year or so if things don't go good,

937
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:54,080
Speaker 12: I'm sure he'll dangle that to some young coach. But

938
00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:58,520
Speaker 12: unfortunately we just don't get the best and brightest anymore,

939
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:03,640
Speaker 12: coach wise and player wise. I don't I don't need

940
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:06,320
Speaker 12: a role model. I don't need a good guy. I

941
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:11,000
Speaker 12: need a a player. I need somebody that could kick ass.

942
00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:15,840
Speaker 12: And that's what we did in the nineties. Uh we

943
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:18,840
Speaker 12: we we didn't take in role models. Then then we

944
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:21,920
Speaker 12: went the safe route and we wanted nice guys. And

945
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:25,320
Speaker 12: that's why we we we missed out on Randy Moss.

946
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:29,799
Speaker 12: I mean, just go get some real good players, some

947
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:34,200
Speaker 12: guys that have a nasty streak about them. I really

948
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 12: don't care. So obvious they're not getting arrested or hurting

949
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:42,319
Speaker 12: somebody off the field. Go get me a player. And

950
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:45,200
Speaker 12: the one guy that I did see, I don't follow

951
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 12: follow college football that much, but obviously I watched a

952
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:51,880
Speaker 12: national championship that passed Russia from Miami Bain.

953
00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:53,680
Speaker 19: He looked.

954
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:55,960
Speaker 12: He looks like a grown ass man. I mean, that

955
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:59,239
Speaker 12: guy looks like he can roll in. I think they

956
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 12: said he was a two seventy.

957
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:01,280
Speaker 10: He's built.

958
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:04,400
Speaker 12: Go get that guy. If you're not gonna make free agent,

959
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:07,000
Speaker 12: you know trades that we've talked about in the past,

960
00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:09,719
Speaker 12: they go get that guy. That guy looks like he

961
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:12,960
Speaker 12: could come right in. Yeah, and play against the run,

962
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:16,239
Speaker 12: play against the pass. Uh, and then you know, do what.

963
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:19,240
Speaker 12: But free agency is the key. You gotta do something.

964
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:21,320
Speaker 12: You gotta, like you were talking, if you want to

965
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:23,319
Speaker 12: get two pass rushers, I'm okay with it, as long

966
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:25,440
Speaker 12: as you go get me some linebackers and the defensive

967
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:26,839
Speaker 12: back and free agency.

968
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:29,360
Speaker 1: Free agency, Yeah, now I'm with you. But you know,

969
00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:32,359
Speaker 1: I feel like they will. I really do. I know.

970
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:34,800
Speaker 1: I I don't know if I've said that before. Maybe

971
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:34,960
Speaker 1: I have.

972
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:37,280
Speaker 3: Well that's because we'll being hopeful.

973
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:38,000
Speaker 13: Let's face it.

974
00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:40,400
Speaker 1: I just feel like they will. I do. I feel

975
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:44,279
Speaker 1: like they're going to to kind of build around what

976
00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:47,360
Speaker 1: they've done, and you know, with the momentum for the offense,

977
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:50,200
Speaker 1: I think that that they're going to do that this

978
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:54,239
Speaker 1: year and maybe get a little bit more talent on

979
00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:55,000
Speaker 1: free agency.

980
00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:57,920
Speaker 12: Sooner or later you're gonna hit you know. You know

981
00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:00,319
Speaker 12: what I mean, Sooner or later you would think, you know,

982
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:04,640
Speaker 12: And the call that I was talking about sign George Pickens,

983
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 12: I'm also for signing him. It just depends on how

984
00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:13,200
Speaker 12: much everybody's talking about how this defense needs to be improved. Well,

985
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:17,160
Speaker 12: I don't want Jerry to sign Pickens or franchise Pickens,

986
00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:19,319
Speaker 12: and then you know you're going to hear well, you know,

987
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:22,520
Speaker 12: I had to franchise him, so I couldn't go No,

988
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:25,719
Speaker 12: if I have to lose Pickens to get a much

989
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:30,560
Speaker 12: better defense, I like my chances going forward. I've seen

990
00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:34,160
Speaker 12: this team with top offenses for the last twenty years,

991
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:38,080
Speaker 12: robo to deck, We've had some really, really good offenses

992
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:42,239
Speaker 12: and we didn't win nothing because our defense was it equivalent?

993
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:45,200
Speaker 1: So does that change your mind? Let's say they do that.

994
00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:49,440
Speaker 1: Let's say that they trade them, get another pick or whatever,

995
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:53,200
Speaker 1: and save that money and get some free agent help

996
00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:57,040
Speaker 1: on defense. Would that change your mind? On number twenty

997
00:51:57,680 --> 00:52:00,880
Speaker 1: in the draft? Is it now a receiver or even twelve?

998
00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:02,360
Speaker 8: No?

999
00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:05,239
Speaker 12: I don't. I don't know. I think a receiver you

1000
00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:09,960
Speaker 12: could get. Most receivers that come out of college don't

1001
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:10,680
Speaker 12: jump right in.

1002
00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:11,480
Speaker 8: Ye.

1003
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:13,759
Speaker 12: Look at a guy that was that we wanted a

1004
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:17,840
Speaker 12: last year. Yeah, I mean he, I mean it just

1005
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:19,520
Speaker 12: doesn't work. There's just certain positions.

1006
00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:20,600
Speaker 3: That receiver is one of them.

1007
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:24,480
Speaker 12: So no, don't get me a got you got CD not.

1008
00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:28,040
Speaker 12: I don't know any other quarterback that needs two number

1009
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:31,960
Speaker 12: ones to be successful. We got CD. We've seen this

1010
00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:35,560
Speaker 12: offense and we seen Dak be really good with CD,

1011
00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:38,120
Speaker 12: A good you know, flown. NOI would think it's going

1012
00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:41,200
Speaker 12: to be. Could he be a number two? I don't know,

1013
00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:45,880
Speaker 12: but he looks better than the others we've had, you know,

1014
00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:49,240
Speaker 12: so just you could get a wide receiver. Is somebody

1015
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:54,920
Speaker 12: reliable you'll technically need Pickens and CD. What I like

1016
00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:57,839
Speaker 12: to have them. Of course, could we do it all? Yes,

1017
00:52:57,920 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 12: of course we could do it all. We've seen teams

1018
00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:03,520
Speaker 12: do it. But unfortunately, knowing how Jerry operates, I just

1019
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:06,680
Speaker 12: don't want to. I could just see him say, well,

1020
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:09,879
Speaker 12: you know, I had a franchise and that's twenty eight

1021
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:12,360
Speaker 12: million whatever it is. So now I don't have money

1022
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:14,920
Speaker 12: to fix the defense or I can't really play in

1023
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:17,759
Speaker 12: free agency. So I'll go get the couch potatoes Rob

1024
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:19,080
Speaker 12: and we'll yes.

1025
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:21,840
Speaker 1: Are you going to training camp this year? Are you

1026
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:23,360
Speaker 1: going to are y'all doing that again? Are you a

1027
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:23,759
Speaker 1: part of this?

1028
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:26,680
Speaker 12: I may? You know what, I'm actually trying to talk

1029
00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:27,640
Speaker 12: my wife into going.

1030
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:32,719
Speaker 1: Okay, So I'm just curious. Say you're there and then

1031
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:37,560
Speaker 1: you're in the VIP and Jerry walks by. Do you

1032
00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:40,120
Speaker 1: shake his hand? Are you yelling at him? Are you like?

1033
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:40,480
Speaker 8: Why?

1034
00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:41,759
Speaker 15: Like?

1035
00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:42,160
Speaker 1: Are you's?

1036
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:42,279
Speaker 8: Like?

1037
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:44,360
Speaker 1: I'm just curious.

1038
00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:49,719
Speaker 12: I respect I respect Jerry. First of all, he's old

1039
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:53,680
Speaker 12: enough to be my father. But I respect Jerry. I

1040
00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:58,040
Speaker 12: respect him as a owner. He's just a terrible GM.

1041
00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:02,439
Speaker 12: And the one question I would ask him is why

1042
00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:06,000
Speaker 12: why do you feel being a GM is more important

1043
00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:11,120
Speaker 12: than winning? Because that's the bottom line in any of

1044
00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:14,399
Speaker 12: his businesses, he would have fired the GM a long

1045
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:19,920
Speaker 12: time ago. The supervisor whoever, he will not he would

1046
00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:22,640
Speaker 12: I always say he would rather be GM and lose

1047
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:26,640
Speaker 12: than just be a regular owner and win. And he's

1048
00:54:26,719 --> 00:54:31,640
Speaker 12: kind of said it. And as a fan, that sucks

1049
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:35,240
Speaker 12: because you look at Robert Kraft, who's the best owner

1050
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:40,600
Speaker 12: in the NFL. He hires the best people and he

1051
00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:43,800
Speaker 12: gets out of the way, and that's what every owner

1052
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:48,000
Speaker 12: should do. But this is this is his fantasy football.

1053
00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:50,120
Speaker 3: And don't get me wrong, Jerry's got the right to

1054
00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:50,640
Speaker 3: do this.

1055
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:54,440
Speaker 12: You know, he hired his kids. His kids are probably

1056
00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:58,759
Speaker 12: not most qualified. I'm sure there's others obviously that much,

1057
00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:04,200
Speaker 12: but I get it.

1058
00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:07,839
Speaker 1: No, you're you're right, all right. Thanks for the call,

1059
00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:10,960
Speaker 1: Rob always always great, great stuff. Appreciate that. Now we'll

1060
00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:19,480
Speaker 1: say this bin out of Miami the right now as

1061
00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:21,719
Speaker 1: it stands, and it's early in the pole process and

1062
00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:24,880
Speaker 1: all that. There's there's not a lot of there's probably

1063
00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:27,240
Speaker 1: not a lot of mock drafts that have him falling

1064
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:32,600
Speaker 1: to the Cowboys. What could happen, though, is is I

1065
00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:34,960
Speaker 1: don't think he you know, I don't. This is one

1066
00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:39,120
Speaker 1: of these draft words but twitchy. I don't I don't

1067
00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:41,600
Speaker 1: know if you would call him that. He's very strong

1068
00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:43,560
Speaker 1: and powerful and he can't he can get off the

1069
00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:45,759
Speaker 1: edge and all that, but he kind of dominates the

1070
00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:51,160
Speaker 1: the his opponent, bendy and all those kind of things

1071
00:55:52,120 --> 00:55:55,200
Speaker 1: that might hurt him. You know, when you really really

1072
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Speaker 1: be you know next? Can he just dominate some of

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Speaker 1: these big offensive tackles that are that have been in

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Speaker 15: Uh?

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Speaker 1: And maybe not? You know, maybe maybe that will will

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Speaker 1: But now the guy from tech Bailey, you know that

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Speaker 18: Hey, what's happening?

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Speaker 14: How you doing I'm doing good, doing good, hanging in there.

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Speaker 1: But Rob, and right after Rob, you, Rob kind of kept.

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Speaker 18: Going yeah yeah, he got me going dude as always, dude.

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Speaker 18: He said, all right, first of okay, first of all,

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Speaker 18: we have some decent players on defense. Okay, I think,

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Speaker 18: and I've said this on the space, is like you

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00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:25,600
Speaker 18: kind of got to throw last year out. Now everybody says, well,

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Speaker 18: it's not all he were Fus's fault, but I think

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00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:33,760
Speaker 18: I'm gonna go on record saying, yeah, it's pretty much

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Speaker 18: all these players didn't just get awful all of a sudden, right, So,

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Speaker 18: and then did the Bears like trade out their whole

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Speaker 18: roster this year?

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Speaker 1: Who did the Bears?

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Speaker 18: Did the Bears?

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't think so, no.

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Speaker 18: No, no, no, they just got a different coach, right.

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Speaker 18: It looked like what yeah, right, and Rob's like, oh,

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Speaker 18: one guy's not gonna make a difference with this team. Well,

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Speaker 18: obviously we got to make some rock moves like every

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Speaker 18: every team in the NFL. But yeah, one guy can

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Speaker 18: make a big difference. Ben Johnson came in and made

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Speaker 18: a big difference.

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Speaker 1: Remember, the Bears did not have a good defense. I mean,

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Speaker 1: they want some games but the Bears did not have

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Speaker 1: a good defense, and Bears defense was was kind of

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Speaker 1: a problem for them too. So I'm just saying, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: but you're right, You're right about the offenses.

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Speaker 18: But we saw Nashon Wright go over there and have

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Speaker 18: a great year, right.

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Speaker 1: Right, No, so I'm saying no, I said, right, no, no,

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Speaker 1: Naysan Wright got turnovers, he got some turnover he did

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Speaker 1: have a great.

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Speaker 18: Okay, Okay, maybe not a great year, but better than

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Speaker 18: he ever performed here? Right? Is that fair to say?

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Speaker 1: Very fair to say?

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Speaker 18: Okay, That's my point is like, yeah, I think the

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Speaker 18: right coach can make a big difference. And all these

1147
00:59:44,480 --> 00:59:51,200
Speaker 18: people wanting everything done. Sorry, I'm trying not to swear

1148
00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:57,240
Speaker 18: everybody that wants everything done, you know, right now, that's

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Speaker 18: just stupid. You'd be all it's like Davion said, you

1150
00:59:59,600 --> 01:00:02,000
Speaker 18: can't win either way. You know what I mean this,

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Speaker 18: Some people in this fan base can't understand that. You know,

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Speaker 18: you're gonna wait for the right guy, dude, and you've

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Speaker 18: you've said it. A lot of the people on the

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Speaker 18: spaces said it, we have to get the right guy. Whatever.

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Speaker 18: That looks like, I'm fine with that, and I'm sick

1156
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Speaker 18: of everybody just arguing about the process so many times

1157
01:00:20,320 --> 01:00:22,760
Speaker 18: because none of us are in it, you know. Yeah,

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Speaker 18: so it's frustrating to me. But yeah, I think one

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Speaker 18: guy can can come over it and maybe not make

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Speaker 18: him you know, the number one defense, but can he

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Speaker 18: get you? Can he get you top ten or close

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Speaker 18: to top ten? Absolutely? Absolutely that can happen. And that's

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Speaker 18: all you need with this offense. Now you go trading pickings,

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Speaker 18: then you don't have the same offense, right, right, So

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Speaker 18: then everything else is up in question. So obviously they've

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Speaker 18: got some work to do. But I definitely think the

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Speaker 18: right guy, the right coaching hire here can definitely make

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Speaker 18: it make a difference. And you don't have to go

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Speaker 18: trade everything away to go get you know, Max Crosby, Right,

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Speaker 18: So I just yeah, all right, Rob got me going

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Speaker 18: to it. But yeah, it's all good, dude. I'm excited

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Speaker 18: to see what happens, and I'm confident that shot he'll

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Speaker 18: make the right decision for what he needs to do

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Speaker 18: because at the end of the day, it's his we're

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Speaker 18: end that's on the line, right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, thanks, all right, bro, good stuff. You

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Speaker 1: know the argument that that you make, like like when

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Speaker 1: you're talking about re signing these these offensive players like

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Speaker 1: Davonte Williams and and uh, George Pickens. You know, you

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Speaker 1: could sit there and like I could argue either side

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Speaker 1: to it because and then that's what makes this thing

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Speaker 1: kind of tricky, because you can say, look at the

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Speaker 1: offense and what you had once Pickens was here, once

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Speaker 1: Davonte was here, it's a great offense. Got to keep it.

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Speaker 1: And and there's a lot of people that think that way,

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Speaker 1: and and and I'm not saying that that's wrong. You

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Speaker 1: can also on the flip side, you could say, well,

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Speaker 1: Javonte's never on that before, Pickens has never had a

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Speaker 1: season like that before. Look at Javonte, Rico Daddle, he

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Speaker 1: had a great season two years ago. Here, Pollard had

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Speaker 1: some really good seasons here. So maybe we don't need

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Speaker 1: to sign Javonte to this and get another back in here.

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Speaker 1: Maybe you don't need to sign Pickings to this, get

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Speaker 1: get another quality veteran receiver who maybe just needs a

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Speaker 1: fresh start, same type of situation finally a year of

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Speaker 1: his deal, or make a trade at a guy in

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Speaker 1: here that can compliment CD and maybe have his best season.

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Speaker 1: So you could you could argue both ways. I mean, selfishly,

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Speaker 1: I think I just like watching George Pickens play that

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Speaker 1: I kind of want to see it happen here. He's

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Speaker 1: fun to watch, he's you know, he's a great player.

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Speaker 1: And it's hard for fans and even media to have

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Speaker 1: an opinion because he's not late for my meeting, like

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Speaker 1: I you know what I mean, Like he didn't show

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Speaker 1: up late there. He didn't miss a team bus for me,

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Speaker 1: and I get it. It's hard for the coaches and

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Speaker 1: things like that, but those aren't things that we see,

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Speaker 1: so we like, not a big deal, you know, and

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Speaker 1: maybe it's not. He goes out there, you know, Okay,

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Speaker 1: he missed, he missed the bus and in uh Vegas

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Speaker 1: and miss is the first series or or whatever. Okay,

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Speaker 1: all right, well comes back and next thing I know,

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Speaker 1: he's jumping into the goalpost after a touchdown. So shot,

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Speaker 1: he's hugging him, you know. All good, and so all right,

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Speaker 1: let's go with Arthur in Spring Texas.

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Speaker 8: Arthur, good morning, Nick, how are you saying?

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Speaker 1: How are you doing?

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Speaker 8: I'm doing pretty good. I'm going to touch on just

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Speaker 8: the complete okay one number one. The Cowboys have and

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Speaker 8: always will will do what they want to do, and

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Speaker 8: that starts at the time. You can't erase that about Jerry.

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Speaker 8: So that being said, there are some core fundamental pieces

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Speaker 8: that we have on the defense that can be built

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Speaker 8: on the lineback and gore and the secondary. Okay, and

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Speaker 8: maybe they need a complete Rehoulbern. I don't know. But

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Speaker 8: there's one thing and I'm sure somebody else has seen it,

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Speaker 8: and you know we left we left some touchdowns on

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Speaker 8: the board when Dack would throw deep and I don't

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Speaker 8: know if anybody else has been paying attention to it,

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Speaker 8: but I know in that Giants game there was a

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Speaker 8: couple of balls that the receivers literally slowed down to try,

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Speaker 8: try and kitchen. So I'm not saying that that's is

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Speaker 8: over the here and ready to go to retire with ten.

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Speaker 8: But I am saying is that making sure they ought

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Speaker 8: to consider those routes getting sharpened up. I mean, do

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01:04:51,040 --> 01:04:53,440
Speaker 8: you always need something over the top? Do you need

1237
01:04:53,480 --> 01:04:57,120
Speaker 8: a big play? You know, Brady made made a living

1238
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Speaker 8: throwing the ball ten fifteen yards. He would take whatever

1239
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Speaker 8: the car seven to ten yards, He'd take whatever the

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Speaker 8: defense gave it. And I'm not saying that he needs

1241
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Speaker 8: to be like Brady. But I'm saying that his mindset

1242
01:05:10,160 --> 01:05:13,640
Speaker 8: as wherever shots needs to change about those deep threats.

1243
01:05:13,720 --> 01:05:16,080
Speaker 8: You throw a deep threat when you know for sure

1244
01:05:16,560 --> 01:05:18,400
Speaker 8: that you got a guy that's going to break into

1245
01:05:18,440 --> 01:05:20,520
Speaker 8: the opening, you can put that ball out there deep

1246
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Speaker 8: enough that they can run out of it and get

1247
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Speaker 8: to But that being said, thank you for letting me

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Speaker 8: for my opinion.

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Speaker 1: Sure, all right, Arthur, that's good stuff, you know, the

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Speaker 1: deep ball. I think I probably disagree with you because

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Speaker 1: I was just saying this yesterday about how I feel

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Speaker 1: like deep ball wasn't thrown enough, especially to Pickens. I

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Speaker 1: just I think no longer is that. Would you call

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01:05:47,720 --> 01:05:49,360
Speaker 1: that a fifty to fifty ball. I don't think it's

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Speaker 1: fifty to fifty. I really don't. I think that the

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Speaker 1: percentage that you're going to get the football down where

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01:05:55,840 --> 01:06:01,200
Speaker 1: you threw it is greater than fifty percent, Especially with Pickens.

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01:06:02,040 --> 01:06:05,000
Speaker 1: He can out jump these corners. He's a better he's

1259
01:06:05,000 --> 01:06:08,520
Speaker 1: got better hands, he's a better playmaker to go and

1260
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Speaker 1: make the catch. I think there's a fifty percent chance

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01:06:11,000 --> 01:06:13,480
Speaker 1: he's gonna catch it. I think there's a twenty five

1262
01:06:13,480 --> 01:06:16,120
Speaker 1: percent chance they're gonna have a PI call. On him,

1263
01:06:16,360 --> 01:06:18,640
Speaker 1: So that's not fifty to fifty either way. You get

1264
01:06:18,680 --> 01:06:20,680
Speaker 1: the ball down there, maybe even further if he catches

1265
01:06:20,680 --> 01:06:23,560
Speaker 1: it and scores. I think there's a chance that goes

1266
01:06:23,600 --> 01:06:26,280
Speaker 1: incomplete and maybe the guy picks it off, which if

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01:06:26,320 --> 01:06:28,760
Speaker 1: you throw it deep enough, that's almost a punt, you know,

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Speaker 1: depending on where you are if it was third down

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Speaker 1: or whatever. So my point is with a player like him,

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Speaker 1: I think I would throw it even deeper. Now, you know,

1271
01:06:38,440 --> 01:06:41,880
Speaker 1: it's all about timing and things like that. As far

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01:06:41,960 --> 01:06:43,840
Speaker 1: as Dak and him on the same pit, when does

1273
01:06:43,880 --> 01:06:45,760
Speaker 1: he throw it and you know, do they have to

1274
01:06:45,800 --> 01:06:48,320
Speaker 1: come back to the ball sometimes coming Sometimes that is

1275
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Speaker 1: the play coming back for the football is you know

1276
01:06:52,200 --> 01:06:54,640
Speaker 1: what will get the ball in your hands and the

1277
01:06:54,680 --> 01:06:56,760
Speaker 1: corners don't know where the ball is, so you can

1278
01:06:56,800 --> 01:06:58,360
Speaker 1: come back to the football and make the play. It

1279
01:06:58,400 --> 01:07:01,360
Speaker 1: happens a lot, So it's not just about this end stride,

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01:07:01,400 --> 01:07:04,480
Speaker 1: perfect throw and all that. I kind of think with

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01:07:04,680 --> 01:07:07,920
Speaker 1: what they have, I like them stretching the field that

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Speaker 1: that way. I know that you know, we saw the

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Speaker 1: turpin touchdown, same type of thing, but I think they

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Speaker 1: need to do that a little bit more. I think

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Speaker 1: that opens up things more for Ferguson. You know, Ferguson

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Speaker 1: had eighty two catches this year, but six hundred yards.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it was his career low for average per catch.

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Speaker 1: And just in case you just drawing yours, Ferguson was

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Speaker 1: named to the Pro Bowl for the second time in

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Speaker 1: his career. He was added for George I'm sorry for yeah,

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Speaker 1: George Kittle. So just thinking of George Pickts is like

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Speaker 1: that didn't sound right. Yeah, George Kittle for the forty

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Speaker 1: nine ers, was injured and so Ferguson replaces him. The

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Speaker 1: Cowboys don't have six Pro Bowlers this year. All right, Tony,

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Speaker 1: Long Beach, California, Tony, what's up?

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Speaker 14: Hey?

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Speaker 12: What's up?

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Speaker 8: How you doing? Man?

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Speaker 1: Good? How are you doing?

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Speaker 3: We're doing well, bro Man A long time listener. Uh,

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Speaker 3: first time calling the storyline.

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Speaker 13: I remember Daddy here.

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Speaker 3: We go, uh doing another with fucking Cowboys, And I

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01:08:10,440 --> 01:08:16,000
Speaker 3: remember Dian Walf. I'm gonna have a crush on her. Uh.

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Speaker 8: It's just different things.

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Speaker 9: But I have a quick question.

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Speaker 3: I'm at work right now. I'm sorry about thennoise.

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Speaker 11: It's been worse, okay, Huh.

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Speaker 1: I've heard worse with other callers. You're you're good. You're good.

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Speaker 1: Long beat in the house.

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Speaker 3: All right, all right, hey, quick question, is it possible

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Speaker 3: maybe to like a trade uh ki do uh oh

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Speaker 3: diggi zua I know recite them last uh this this

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Speaker 3: last off season? Is that a possibility to probably like

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Speaker 3: try to maybe move up in the draft or maybe

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Speaker 3: to try to get that guy from from Oakland? You

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Speaker 3: know you use that as a as a chip, you

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Speaker 3: know that maybe.

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Speaker 1: All right, that that kind of was a topic that

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Speaker 1: we talked about a lot last in last week's show,

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Speaker 1: hasn't come up as so much this time. But you know,

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Speaker 1: they just signed him to a big deal, and so

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Speaker 1: you know that when when that happens, I mean, especially

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01:09:21,920 --> 01:09:24,120
Speaker 1: after his first year that he probably didn't count a

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Speaker 1: lot towards the cap. So you're gonna you're gonna get

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Speaker 1: a pretty pretty nice chunk of chance that's gonna hit

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Speaker 1: your cap immediately when you do that. Me personally, if

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Speaker 1: if you're gonna have him counting a lot to the cap,

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Speaker 1: I'd rather him just go out there and play. And

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Speaker 1: I think the rotation of those guys helps you. Now

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Speaker 1: this was towards the end of his contract, maybe as

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Speaker 1: last year or two. You can you can consider that

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Speaker 1: with any player, but I think with Osa, and you

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Speaker 1: think about the boxes that get checked here. As far

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Speaker 1: as you know, I just got didn't making that rant

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Speaker 1: about guys that love football they're gonna come in and

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Speaker 1: do everything right. That that's what this guy did. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he signed his contract the very next day, was in

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Speaker 1: the rate room at eight a m. You know, and

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Speaker 1: and and that's you know, I think he's he's dedicated,

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Speaker 1: he is a leader. He's a good football player, and

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Speaker 1: you know, I think he's still developing and getting better.

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Speaker 1: Now now you're gonna pair him with Quentin Williams Kenny Clark,

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01:10:26,640 --> 01:10:28,080
Speaker 1: I think, I think the guys have a chance to

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Speaker 1: be even better there. And so I don't know, you know,

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Speaker 1: it's gonna count too much, I think to to get

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Speaker 1: him off the roster, I'd rather him just be on

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Speaker 1: the roster help contributing. Like I said, he checks a

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Speaker 1: lot of the boxes that you want. And he's a

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Speaker 1: good football player. I mean, there's there's no doubt about him.

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Speaker 1: He made a game winning play in that Philadelphia game

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Speaker 1: when it was third and three, third and four. I mean,

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Speaker 1: to get back there and to get Hurts to the

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Speaker 1: ground and sack it for the first time in the game.

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Speaker 1: And guys got the ball, went and won the game.

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Speaker 1: And and you know, he didn't make a lot of them.

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Speaker 1: I understand that. And you know he got better when

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Speaker 1: quin when Quinn Williams was here. So let's play into

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01:11:09,280 --> 01:11:11,160
Speaker 1: that a little bit. You know, Pickens got better when

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Speaker 1: he when he was with Dak and and and CD.

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Speaker 1: So it happens. Iron sharpens iron and then make these

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Speaker 1: guys better. Chris in Modesto, California, Chris, what's up?

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Speaker 20: Hey, what's up? That's how you going?

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Speaker 8: Good? You good? Good?

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Speaker 20: That was good. I'm doing real good. I really wanted

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Speaker 20: to talk about like Dallas and just how I was

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Speaker 20: excited a lot of what moves they were making over

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Speaker 20: the years and kind of bringing up the issues that

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Speaker 20: people like ha with you know, Garrett, and during that time,

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Speaker 20: our defense, I believe that we got rid of the

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Speaker 20: main issue with our defense was was Matt Ebra blush.

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Speaker 20: A lot of our problems was up the middle, is

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Speaker 20: either on the defensive line, linebacker or safety. During the

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Speaker 20: time we had WAYE. Phillips where Kitchens in Wilson and

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Speaker 20: they all left and won a Super Bowl, under Way,

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Speaker 20: Phillips or Stagnola, you know those defensive coaches, and they

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Speaker 20: also what they did where did mention that the coach

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Speaker 20: the reason why he wanted to leave as a coach

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Speaker 20: didn't want to change. So prior to that, our offense

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Speaker 20: and defense was terrible. To be honest, in my opinion,

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Speaker 20: we were struggling a lot. On the offensive side. We've

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Speaker 20: been honestly pretty good, but lately I think we're struggling

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Speaker 20: on tight ends. We need another tight end to really

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Speaker 20: open up our offense. They will bring down the safety

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Speaker 20: to open up the outside for Pickens or Lamb in

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Speaker 20: my opinion, in that area. As far as the defense,

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Speaker 20: I think we do need to make, you know, some trades,

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Speaker 20: you know, maybe trade Turpin Steal to move up possibly

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Speaker 20: in the draft and get back into the third And

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Speaker 20: it would be my hope, but you would, yeah, because

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Speaker 20: during the off season, when during the draft, I honestly

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Speaker 20: I send a message to mail Bag about trading Micah

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Speaker 20: Parsons and uh terping, you know, to to possibly get

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Speaker 20: some you know, capital or someone in free agency, mainly

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Speaker 20: because I did not see Micah matching up with the

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Speaker 20: the personnel and the defense the way we were going,

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Speaker 20: we want to stop the run, and he wasn't a

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Speaker 20: good run stopping and he tost too much money to

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Speaker 20: keep everybody on the team. So my my option was

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Speaker 20: is he doesn't want to be in the film room

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01:14:18,240 --> 01:14:22,120
Speaker 20: and that's a big issue. Then yeah, I let him know.

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Speaker 20: Trade him, all right, they did.

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Speaker 1: And they missed him, but but the trade hasn't been

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01:14:29,320 --> 01:14:31,320
Speaker 1: The trade's not complete, you know what I mean, Like

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01:14:31,560 --> 01:14:34,320
Speaker 1: we we can't even close to evaluate the trade. And

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Speaker 1: Micah went and made the Pro Bowl. Good for him.

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01:14:37,200 --> 01:14:40,599
Speaker 1: Cowboys had the worst defense in the league. Bad for them.

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01:14:41,000 --> 01:14:44,320
Speaker 1: But you know, Quentin Williams was also here because of that.

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Speaker 1: We'll see what the other first round picks looks like.

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Speaker 1: We'll see, yeah, Gardens.

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Speaker 20: And Williams in the next two first we got two

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Speaker 20: first rounds out of it. It's similar to the Herschel

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Speaker 20: Walker trade. We'll see similar.

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Speaker 1: And and we'll see, you know what I mean, we'll

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01:15:00,280 --> 01:15:01,680
Speaker 1: how it goes. I mean, there was a lot more

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Speaker 1: picks involved there, but in this day and age, is

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Speaker 1: probably the closest thing you're going to see to it,

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Speaker 1: all right, Chris, Yeah, thanks for the call. Good stuff,

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Speaker 1: And this thing just comes down to. You know, when

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Speaker 1: you're looking at coordinators and and all that stuff, they

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Speaker 1: I think about dan Quinn. You know, dan Quinn was

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Speaker 1: here and great coordinator and all that stuff he had Micah,

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Speaker 1: and I'm not saying he's not good, but that's what

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Speaker 1: this team needs. That's that they needed. It doesn't matter

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01:15:35,200 --> 01:15:38,040
Speaker 1: who it is. Get a guy that can get off

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01:15:38,080 --> 01:15:40,559
Speaker 1: the edge, that that the quarterback gets to the line

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Speaker 1: of scrimmage and points to. And then the running back

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01:15:43,720 --> 01:15:46,360
Speaker 1: that's all over here on your right, all of a

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01:15:46,400 --> 01:15:49,320
Speaker 1: sudden now comes over to your left. So he's obviously

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01:15:49,320 --> 01:15:52,400
Speaker 1: gonna chip the guy. Give me that guy, Give me,

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01:15:52,520 --> 01:15:54,479
Speaker 1: give me that guy that that's what you needed. Can

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01:15:54,560 --> 01:15:58,400
Speaker 1: Azeraku develop into that, we'll see big big year needed

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01:15:58,479 --> 01:16:01,760
Speaker 1: in the weight room for him. But you know we

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01:16:01,880 --> 01:16:04,000
Speaker 1: need to see some of that. But that's that's what

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01:16:04,240 --> 01:16:08,080
Speaker 1: this team needs, because I promise you you could get

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01:16:08,080 --> 01:16:11,519
Speaker 1: a pass rusher or two in here. The coordinators all

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01:16:11,560 --> 01:16:13,799
Speaker 1: of a sudden gonna look better. Linebackers look better overshow

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01:16:13,840 --> 01:16:16,400
Speaker 1: and looks a lot better. Bland is covering better, John

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01:16:16,439 --> 01:16:19,599
Speaker 1: Navan Wilson and Lee Cooker. They're making a lot more

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01:16:19,680 --> 01:16:22,240
Speaker 1: plays that that kind of happens that's where it starts

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01:16:22,280 --> 01:16:24,280
Speaker 1: to me, and and that's that's what's got to happen.

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01:16:24,360 --> 01:16:29,000
Speaker 1: So you know, I coordinator, these decisions have to be

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01:16:29,040 --> 01:16:32,800
Speaker 1: made first, but they better have a vision on how

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01:16:32,800 --> 01:16:34,680
Speaker 1: to get a pass rusher in here and how to

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01:16:34,680 --> 01:16:38,960
Speaker 1: get a pass rush more than anything. All Right, good show, guys.

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Speaker 1: We'll do it again next Wednesday. Fifteen callers is pretty

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01:16:43,080 --> 01:16:45,640
Speaker 1: much what we h That's like the standard. That's what

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01:16:45,680 --> 01:16:47,560
Speaker 1: I love to get here, especially when we have a

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01:16:47,600 --> 01:16:49,920
Speaker 1: little extra time. So you guys did great. Good to

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Speaker 1: hear from you this week, and we'll do it again

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Speaker 1: next week. Stay safe if there's any weather issues out

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Speaker 1: there in your area. For Chrispy, I'm Nick Eatman. We

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Speaker 1: will see you next week on Cowboy Storyline.

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