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Speaker 1: I never told your protection of I heart radio. So

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Speaker 1: as this comes out, we are marking a one year

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Speaker 1: quarantine anniversary PAN anniversary for some quarantine adversary. For some,

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Speaker 1: that's really dark year. For others. Are people calling a panniversary? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I've seen panniversary? Okay, Okay, well yeah hooray. Uh you

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Speaker 1: know we said marking and not celebrating, but yes. So

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Speaker 1: my question for you, Samantha is because I really remember,

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Speaker 1: where were you when you were like, oh god, okay,

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Speaker 1: it like the early like March. For me, it was

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Speaker 1: March thirteen. I'm going to have to quarantine, and I

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Speaker 1: don't know what's gonna happen here right. I'm trying to

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Speaker 1: think because I can't remember specific dates. I do remember

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Speaker 1: thinking because I think I said you a text last weekend.

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Speaker 1: I was like, um, is this the day that you're

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Speaker 1: I believe so. And I went back and looked at

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Speaker 1: my pictures and yes, yes it was. That was the

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Speaker 1: time when everything was getting shut down. So not only

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Speaker 1: people were already planning and talking about it, but we

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Speaker 1: were at a conference, so myself, Eve's and Anna from

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Speaker 1: Ethnically Ambiguous and all of our other shows, She and

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Speaker 1: I and Holly were all at a conference in Florida

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Speaker 1: You predicted it, Yeah, you from jump. We're like, we're

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Speaker 1: We should find that episode. Yeah, I just I can't

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Speaker 1: the fact that you are the person, yes, that will

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Speaker 1: it the best party. Yes, because you are the life

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