Speaker 1: Look Mayer, Oh, I see you my own bow and
Speaker 1: look over there is that culture?
Speaker 2: Yes, wow, lost culture, du culture.
Speaker 1: I've never experienced bowen more. The girls are worse for
Speaker 1: Aware this morning? What happened to you? Just now?
Speaker 2: I coughed a really deep, disgusting from the pelvic floor cough,
Speaker 2: and that's what I've been dealing.
Speaker 1: It was really cuckoo. Do you have a cough?
Speaker 2: I have a cough. What is going on with cough culture?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I had a cough last week when we had
Speaker 1: to wake up and do the Today Show. But the
Speaker 1: show must go on?
Speaker 2: And then did you have any moment where the camera
Speaker 2: was on you and you were like, eh, I feel
Speaker 2: when coming.
Speaker 1: Oh bingo on. I felt like that almost the entire time.
Speaker 1: I think that ultimately I kept it together, but it
Speaker 1: wasn't exactly how I wanted to do my first televised performance.
Speaker 1: But it sounded good. But the bone was counting down
Speaker 1: from three to one to start the episode and he
Speaker 1: was grimacing through a cough, and I just said, the
Speaker 1: girls are worse for ware right now. It must be.
Speaker 2: December, Honey, write a song about that on the next album,
Speaker 2: if there is one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, everyone around me sick as fuck tonight, everyone around
Speaker 1: me sick as fuck to night, as fuck two nights.
Speaker 2: You really are digging into those vowels, sick as fuck
Speaker 2: to night too nights. This is something that people don't
Speaker 2: talk about. There is no Christmas song about how you're sick.
Speaker 2: People are usually ill because of the weather.
Speaker 1: There is now everyone around me sick as fuck to night.
Speaker 1: That's really good.
Speaker 2: Bo Where does this take place? Where does the song
Speaker 2: take place? You think I always like asking this question.
Speaker 1: I think it takes place when I'm on stage talking
Speaker 1: to the audience.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, You're like, it's a read of the audience.
Speaker 1: I'm just like, you know, I've known something about this crowd.
Speaker 1: The energy is something else in here. And then I
Speaker 1: do a song about how I think it's like amazing
Speaker 1: to be surrounded by people during the holidays. But it's
Speaker 1: the chorus is everyone around.
Speaker 2: Me sick as fuck tune nights. I think that is
Speaker 2: a really innovative song.
Speaker 1: Thank you. It's important work. But also another thing is
Speaker 1: like I'm eating horrible right now? Are you eating absolutely
Speaker 1: terrible right now? Like a trash can?
Speaker 2: I forced myself to order a salad yesterday because I
Speaker 2: was like I have not eaten a vegetable in weeks.
Speaker 1: Isn't it funny too? Like you order a salad once
Speaker 1: and you want to give yourself the Nobel Prize. You're like,
Speaker 1: oh wow, like great job, Like you did it. You're
Speaker 1: on the road to recovery. Girl. Later on that night,
Speaker 1: it's bacon burger, honey.
Speaker 2: I ordered from Wegmans a box of corn dogs, of
Speaker 2: thirty two corn dogs, and they take one minute to
Speaker 2: heat up in the microwave, and I have a delicious
Speaker 2: American delicacy in my mouth and belly. Why are you shaking?
Speaker 2: Why are you judging me?
Speaker 1: So?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: Can I say it's not judgment. It's just as someone
Speaker 1: who knows you and your bowels. Oh, I know you
Speaker 1: wake up in some kind of form. When you are
Speaker 1: after six and a half hours of sleeping and letting
Speaker 1: one minute microwave corn dogs rest inside you for the evening,
Speaker 1: you must wake up and absolutely be esteemed esteemed. I'm
Speaker 1: not not esteemed E s T E E M E
Speaker 1: ed esteemed A s T E A M ed esteemed.
Speaker 2: I don't know if that's a word, but.
Speaker 1: I've made it up today. Esteemed.
Speaker 2: No, I hope it is a word. I don't mean
Speaker 2: to shut you down.
Speaker 1: Your stomach was esteemed. No, no, oh my god, oh, I.
Speaker 2: Mean this is ridiculous.
Speaker 1: Who did this? I don't know.
Speaker 2: I cannot trace it back. God remember contact tracing? Oh perish,
Speaker 2: my god, how dare you? I think you know who
Speaker 2: made you sick?
Speaker 1: Olivia Ladriga Riga.
Speaker 2: I barely interacted with her, wow, because you know why
Speaker 2: I think she associates me with a bad moment. Why
Speaker 2: because I had to interview her for a V magazine
Speaker 2: a few years ago. Oh right, And I think I
Speaker 2: forgot what the blowback was. But like appropriately the editors
Speaker 2: were like, can you ask her about what it means
Speaker 2: to be like an Asian pop star and like what
Speaker 2: it means to like be Filipina and like what it
Speaker 2: means to like little girls or something. And I think,
Speaker 2: like this was back when it was like everyone was
Speaker 2: just trying to like this was right in the in
Speaker 2: the middle of like the weirdness with the songs.
Speaker 1: Oh oh oh oh.
Speaker 2: And I think, like, I don't know, I'm sure like
Speaker 2: it was on a radar that like people were like
Speaker 2: mad that she like said that she was a role model.
Speaker 2: I think like people took that quote out of context
Speaker 2: that they were like, she's not a role model, she's
Speaker 2: barely even eighteen, like whatever. Like people are so can
Speaker 2: I just say people are.
Speaker 3: Just awful?
Speaker 1: Yeah, people could be very awful.
Speaker 2: Anyway, You're in my hometown right now.
Speaker 1: Girl. You know, I'm actually in the Cherry Creek, Marriott
Speaker 1: that we recorded an episode one time, so this is
Speaker 1: not the first episode recorded from this Denver Cherry Creek.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, Cherry Creek.
Speaker 1: Yes, honey, this is essentially like I'm like in the
Speaker 1: Homewood Sweets right now, and it's lovely. I feel very
Speaker 1: on the road.
Speaker 2: Cormick McCarthy or no, oh no, no, no, Jack Carrouac,
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, wait, we need to cut Oh damn.
Speaker 1: Oh. Bowen has revealed a little vulnerability there. He thought
Speaker 1: Jack Carroac was Cornmick McCarthy because these girls all look
Speaker 1: the same.
Speaker 2: Well they don't look the same, but they have the
Speaker 2: same sort of sounds in their names. Let's not cut
Speaker 2: it action, I'm going to be vulnerable.
Speaker 1: Choosing to be vulnerable. This is our esteemed episode.
Speaker 2: Esteemed. Now, would you say that Denver audiences are mile high?
Speaker 2: They're breathing less oxygen and they're therefore like maybe a
Speaker 2: little bit more days. Maybe they're getting that Mother God
Speaker 2: energy because they were in Colorado too.
Speaker 1: We will see when I step on stage tonight, We're
Speaker 1: gonna see just how high and unoxygenated they are. I've
Speaker 1: had good shows so far. The only thing that does
Speaker 1: stuck about being on the road is, like we're just
Speaker 1: saying the esteeming of the stomachs, like because whenever you
Speaker 1: go to a new city, it's always kind of just like, oh,
Speaker 1: where do we go that we have to go, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? And that's typically a restaurant that's
Speaker 1: not like a healthy restaurant, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Or it's like if you're on the road going somewhere
Speaker 1: you have to eat quickly, that's typically not like the
Speaker 1: healthiest food. So I'm right now trying to understand how
Speaker 1: to eat healthy and be healthy on the road because
Speaker 1: I wake up in the morning and my body feels esteemed.
Speaker 1: It feels so esteemed, like you know that I was
Speaker 1: two minutes late to this call up because I was
Speaker 1: dealing with it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you were dealing with it. Would you say you
Speaker 2: wake up in the morning feeling like P Diddy in
Speaker 2: that P shitty, P shitty in that you your body's doing
Speaker 2: some terrible things to you. Oh yeah, the way that
Speaker 2: P Diddy is so terrible things to women.
Speaker 1: I went to I hop last night, Slay tell All.
Speaker 1: We had a classic like late night I Hop, and
Speaker 1: then we all got into a discussion about what our
Speaker 1: favorite not fast food, but you know what I'm saying, like, like,
Speaker 1: what would you call like that tier of restaurants like Applebee's, Chili's,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like, yeah, like hometown joints.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what is that called? Hold on, let's Chili's, Applebee's chains,
Speaker 2: So I guess like concept name casual dining.
Speaker 1: Casual dining, those chains. We all got into like a
Speaker 1: little bit of aussion about what our favorites are. I
Speaker 1: think that for me, it is Fridays. It is TGI Fridays.
Speaker 1: Oh your Friday, I think because I just love the
Speaker 1: energy of Friday, you know what I mean. I think
Speaker 1: it's such a beautiful thing to put out in the
Speaker 1: world like it's Friday, Like when you tell people when
Speaker 1: you come here, it's always Friday. I think that's absolutely stunning. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I will say that I have an appreciation for Applebee's
Speaker 1: and I did enjoy ihop last night, which I think
Speaker 1: you do have to put in that category because while
Speaker 1: they are known as the International House of Pancakes, I
Speaker 1: have to say if you look at their menu, there
Speaker 1: are treasures untold. How many wonders can one cash will chain?
Speaker 1: Oh many?
Speaker 2: Does Village Inn mean anything to you? That means nothing
Speaker 2: to me. It is a huge deal in Colorado, and
Speaker 2: I think they still exist, but they are sort of
Speaker 2: slightly above Oh. I hope my I hop friends don't
Speaker 2: hate me for saying this, but I think they're a
Speaker 2: tier above eye Hop. But they're not too ostentatious, but
Speaker 2: they just the vibe is great. Villagon is where you
Speaker 2: would go after the school play. I see, yeah, that
Speaker 2: was Appleleas for us, it's where the drama kids would go.
Speaker 2: I was always we were always a village in house
Speaker 2: and then our chilies on a Wrappa Ho and Parker
Speaker 2: in Centennial, Colorado or or Colorado was people might know
Speaker 2: where this is was perched on this like hill slash
Speaker 2: cliff at this huge intersection, and the way it was
Speaker 2: lit and the way the neon chili was sort of
Speaker 2: positioned made it seem like the most glamorous place in
Speaker 2: the world, Like I think there was a time when
Speaker 2: Chili's was kind of like an aspirational place to go,
Speaker 2: not even for kids, but for like anyone of any
Speaker 2: age creat color, anyone.
Speaker 1: From any age creator color could be found at Chili's.
Speaker 1: And it was mostly a place for the teachers at
Speaker 1: my school to go get drunk. Absolutely, I saw so
Speaker 1: many of my teachers, like from elementary school, middle school,
Speaker 1: high school, Like when I would go there with friends,
Speaker 1: like I would look over at the bar and there
Speaker 1: would be teachers from my school getting drunk at the
Speaker 1: Applebee's or the Chilies, like it would happen and I
Speaker 1: would say, hey, doll, hey. They would say, now you know,
Speaker 1: I'm off the cock girl, and I would say, well,
Speaker 1: this is interesting to see you sort of out in
Speaker 1: the wild. And now to think about them getting drunk
Speaker 1: at Chili's.
Speaker 2: Chilling, Oh no, no, no, Maybe there's something comforting about
Speaker 2: Chilis in terms of an alcohol experience they have.
Speaker 1: Like they did have good margarita. I was just gonna say,
Speaker 1: the margaritas are good. Wait, am I gonna have to
Speaker 1: go to this famous Chilies that you described? Is it
Speaker 1: still there?
Speaker 2: You think it's still there? But I think it's glory
Speaker 2: days are behind it. I'm sure the people working there
Speaker 2: are lovely, But there is a village in in that
Speaker 2: same strip, mall and a Rappahan Parker. I mean, you
Speaker 2: still haven't Gonecosta Bonita, have you?
Speaker 1: No, I don't think so. If you didn't take us there,
Speaker 1: then we didn't go there.
Speaker 2: Okay, well because it closed during COVID. But then Trey
Speaker 2: Parker and Matt Stone of South Park and Book of
Speaker 2: Mormon fame who grew up in Colorado in Evergreen. Yeah,
Speaker 2: Colorado Royalty spent I think they did a whole rite
Speaker 2: upon it. I think in the Times or some magazine
Speaker 2: they spent like ten to fifteen million dollars renovating it,
Speaker 2: making the food good, making the cliff diver safer. Like
Speaker 2: it is a cultural landmark in not only Colorado, but
Speaker 2: I think in America it is a hugely important place.
Speaker 2: But back in the day, you would go ironically because
Speaker 2: you would go for your birthday if you were a kid,
Speaker 2: or you would go ironically if you were like stoned
Speaker 2: in the tenth grade because the food was rancid, disgusting
Speaker 2: because there was no ventilation in the kitchen and you
Speaker 2: would go to like, you know, watch a hot guy
Speaker 2: like with an eight pack, like dive off a cliff
Speaker 2: into shallow water. Like it's a miracle. No one that died,
Speaker 2: but it is such a wondrous place. And Trey Parker
Speaker 2: and Matt's don't really like it's a beautiful passion project
Speaker 2: that they were, just like we love this place so much,
Speaker 2: what it means to our childhoods and the childhoods of
Speaker 2: many Coloradens that like, let's just do it. I think
Speaker 2: it's open down and you should go if you have time.
Speaker 1: Honestly, I'm compelled to go. And I'm also compelled to
Speaker 1: ask you, what would our restaurant experience, Oh, what our
Speaker 1: curated restaurant experience be? What would it be called? What
Speaker 1: would it taste like? What would it feel like? Fridays?
Speaker 1: If Tja Fridays gives you the feeling of it's always Friday,
Speaker 1: what does Matt and Bowen's restaurant give We have to
Speaker 1: start thinking about this. I think there's slides. I think
Speaker 1: there's something I'm saying right now. I think there's adult slides.
Speaker 2: Well, that's so interesting, because here's where I'm starting my
Speaker 2: brainstorm is what is the slogan is like Applebe's has
Speaker 2: eaten good in the neighborhood, you know, Olive Garden is
Speaker 2: when you're here your family. I think ours is slay
Speaker 2: with your friends.
Speaker 1: Slay with your friends. I think this is this is
Speaker 1: this is really good. So basically this is how I
Speaker 1: picture it. You have to because it's in New York City.
Speaker 1: You have to take an elevators to be in New York.
Speaker 1: I think this is a chain. No, yeah, but it
Speaker 1: starts in New York. This is this is the first location.
Speaker 1: So it's in Times Square in New York, which is
Speaker 1: one of the most famous best spots for restaurants of
Speaker 1: this kind. So you get in the elevator and you
Speaker 1: go up to like the tenth floor, and when you
Speaker 1: get out, there's the most gorgeous hostesses and it's titty
Speaker 1: forward but everyone's like so it's it's like Hooters, but.
Speaker 2: But not not quite as heavy.
Speaker 1: It's not tacky, it's it's more just like come on,
Speaker 1: Like everyone gets you there, the hostess to say, no
Speaker 1: matter what they say, girl, we have a table for you. Yes, Like,
Speaker 1: we have a table for you. Like there's always a
Speaker 1: table for you. That's one of the secondary slogans there's
Speaker 1: always a table for you, play with your friends, is
Speaker 1: like the top one. And then at the bottom of
Speaker 1: the menu it says in quotes, there's always.
Speaker 2: The table for you. That's so nice.
Speaker 1: So then you have to slide down from the tenth floor.
Speaker 1: There's slides. You slide down to the fifth floor, which
Speaker 1: is where the restaurant is.
Speaker 2: Oh I love that, So you slide down.
Speaker 1: Is that eighty can dust yourself off? Oh well, there's
Speaker 1: a separate entrance for those who can't have that experience,
Speaker 1: we do something fun for them. Yeah, anyone that's yeah,
Speaker 1: that needs a separate entrance. We will have a different
Speaker 1: experience for you. It will be horror. It will be
Speaker 1: scare actors jumping out while you go down a hallway.
Speaker 1: But that's just you know, you still have an experience.
Speaker 2: Wow, what's it called the restaurant?
Speaker 1: The Chiefs.
Speaker 2: It's called the Chiefs.
Speaker 1: It's called the Chiefsmansas City Chiefs.
Speaker 2: Well, that's already kind of that's already kind of a
Speaker 2: loaded problem. It's already kind of not a great It.
Speaker 1: Should not be cheaps huh.
Speaker 2: It should be let's see, I'm sorry, I don't mean
Speaker 2: to shoot down your.
Speaker 1: Idea, I'm steaming our restaurant the cheese. It was a
Speaker 1: first came into my head. What it's called chefs. Chefs,
Speaker 1: That's what I was getting at, And I was starting
Speaker 1: to say chiefs, but I meant to say chef.
Speaker 2: It should be meaningful to us, like we're like like, I.
Speaker 1: Think we love sp No.
Speaker 2: I think it should be called I think it should
Speaker 2: be a world restaurant, world restaurant. I think it should
Speaker 2: be called. No, this is what I think it should
Speaker 2: be called. The tree, the.
Speaker 1: Tree, Oh my god, I love that. I love the tree.
Speaker 1: And you climb the tree and then you have to
Speaker 1: like take a slide down into the.
Speaker 2: Tree, into the tree and into the canopy, and then
Speaker 2: like everyone's got big tits, and yeah, the bloodies are
Speaker 2: so good and they're so.
Speaker 1: Good, and you can drink three of them. That's actually
Speaker 1: the tagline. You're gonna want three of these. You're gonna
Speaker 1: want three of these?
Speaker 2: Oh No, the tagline's gonna be ooh, you like this,
Speaker 2: You're gonna have three of these?
Speaker 1: You like this. You're gonna have three of these. I
Speaker 1: like this. And that's what we have to tell all
Speaker 1: of our waiters to say to everyone when they come
Speaker 1: in like, that's a great choice. You're gonna have three
Speaker 1: of those.
Speaker 2: That is so amazing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so amazing. And I also think that, you know,
Speaker 1: all the servers should be people who are escaping scientology
Speaker 1: the tree to give them a soft place to land.
Speaker 2: Totally, people escaping scientology. Let's see people who used to
Speaker 2: be a Times square, Elmos and Elsa's Yes, yes, I
Speaker 2: think give them a better working condition.
Speaker 1: Yeah, totally. Well, we pay so much. We pay a
Speaker 1: huge salary to all of our servers.
Speaker 2: Yes, the training takes what like two years. I think
Speaker 2: it's a.
Speaker 1: Two year training just to make sure that they're the
Speaker 1: kind of person who can really take an order. We
Speaker 1: don't allow them to write the orders down. No, we
Speaker 1: don't like that. I think a true test of a
Speaker 1: waiter is you have to remember every detail of an order.
Speaker 2: You would stuff down, oh every time.
Speaker 1: But I'm that's here's the thing I'm not.
Speaker 2: You're not working at the tree and.
Speaker 1: Actually applying for a job here. I'm the boss. I'm
Speaker 1: not working a tree. I'm just the manager.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I think there's a giant painted portrait
Speaker 2: of tree pain yeah by the bathroom.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and She is like an honorary manager, because who's
Speaker 1: better at managing anything much.
Speaker 2: She is one of the best music managers of all time.
Speaker 1: What do you think the traction is on the Amy
Speaker 1: Adams tree Paining biopic that we pitched because I feel
Speaker 1: like people got excited about it and then I didn't
Speaker 1: see John August start writing it.
Speaker 2: Well, that's used to take that up with John. But
Speaker 2: I think Hunter Harris really I think she felt. I
Speaker 2: feel like Hunter was very supportive. And again this is
Speaker 2: her idea. She was the one who originally in her
Speaker 2: substack or on her Twitter, we went over this.
Speaker 1: She was the one who Amy Adams is the No,
Speaker 1: she didn't.
Speaker 2: Yes she did, Queen. She says she said for years
Speaker 2: now that Amy Adams is winning her Oscar for the
Speaker 2: tree Paining biopec I literally said this so funny.
Speaker 1: I didn't even realize that she said that. I thought
Speaker 1: that was something that we came up with. No, but
Speaker 1: you pitched Oh, I pitched the storyline the zero Dark
Speaker 1: thirty sort of like yeah, yeah, yeah, the Kim Kanya call.
Speaker 2: But I have an alternate casting option not to step
Speaker 2: on you and Hunter.
Speaker 1: I do want to give all the credits a Hunter.
Speaker 2: By the way, No, no, no, I wasn't accusing you of
Speaker 2: not giving a Hunter the credit. I looked at a
Speaker 2: picture of tree recently, and of course the red hair,
Speaker 2: you think Amy Adams. But in terms of the face
Speaker 2: and the beauty and the severity of that face, huh
Speaker 2: ready ready, Yeah, Sarah Paulson in a red wig. I
Speaker 2: think it could work. Okay, you're not as into it
Speaker 2: as I thought you would be. Can I say, look
Speaker 2: up a photo of her now they're this, They have
Speaker 2: the same face.
Speaker 1: I mean I would have known look it up. All right,
Speaker 1: I'm looking looking at a picture of tree paint. I
Speaker 1: guess what I'm saying is like Sarah Paulson. Yeah, yes, certainly,
Speaker 1: they do favor. They do favor. They favor. They favor
Speaker 1: each other's tree pain and Sarah Paulson they favor. Okay, Okay,
Speaker 1: you've never heard this expression. You really do favor?
Speaker 2: Yes, I do. Yes, I know that that expression.
Speaker 1: But I will say I feel and I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: come out and say this, Sarah Paulson has been so
Speaker 1: booked and busy that I'm not dying to see her
Speaker 1: do tree pain like I feel like Sarah Pulston is
Speaker 1: always in eighteen projects a year, you know what I mean? Like,
Speaker 1: I feel like I want Amy. I want this for
Speaker 1: Amy bad, Okay, because the whole point is like, we
Speaker 1: need to get Amy her oscar and tree Pain's story told.
Speaker 1: I think that Sarah Paulson could do an amazing job
Speaker 1: telling the story. But in a world where this is
Speaker 1: real and it's app not, we should reinforce that it's not.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but I can't leave my girl Amy behind.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, that's fair. She needs to win, yeah, absolutely,
Speaker 2: because meanwhile, you got the younger girls potentially reaking in
Speaker 2: a second Oscar this year.
Speaker 1: Oh honey, did she see the Golden Globe nominations?
Speaker 2: I did? I did.
Speaker 1: I thought there was many good things about it.
Speaker 2: Well, this is sort of the meta commentary, is that
Speaker 2: everyone's like, oh, this is all very respectful, like there
Speaker 2: are no like back in the day would be like
Speaker 2: the fun thing was to be like, oh my god,
Speaker 2: the Golden Globes are so fucking stupid. I can't believe
Speaker 2: they nominated this, you know. And now it's like, oh, well,
Speaker 2: because the HFPA doesn't exist because they were always a joke.
Speaker 2: This nominating body is like actually has some taste and
Speaker 2: isn't jockeying for like shoulder rubbing with like actors.
Speaker 1: Did you see The One category I think is so
Speaker 1: dumb though, is like Best Cinematic Box Office Achievement. And
Speaker 1: it's like, well, she was nominated, but like it's just
Speaker 1: such a silly category because it's like, okay, so there's
Speaker 1: five nominees, but you're gonna give it to the one
Speaker 1: that made me the most money, right, Like, yeah, so
Speaker 1: Barbie's gonna win. It's not like there's like a nail
Speaker 1: bier if like John Wick four is gonna beat Barbie.
Speaker 1: It's just stupid. It's like, if you want to award
Speaker 1: the thing that gave the most money, be like and
Speaker 1: this year we're giving a special honorary Golden Globe to
Speaker 1: two or three movies who broke through and made a
Speaker 1: lot of money. Like if that's what we're saying, and
Speaker 1: then just do it. They're also doing a stand up Award. Now, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: they nominated all the greats from the last two months
Speaker 1: of social commentary. All the greats are there. Everyone who
Speaker 1: had the best things to say over the past couple
Speaker 1: of years is nominated for the Golden Globe for stand
Speaker 1: up everyone whose commentary was desperately needed.
Speaker 2: I'm sure I'll watch. But the Golden Globe, I feel
Speaker 2: like they have such there's clawing their way out of
Speaker 2: the pits, you know, like they've really befallen. Tragedy has
Speaker 2: befallen them over the last several years.
Speaker 1: I think we'll definitely watch. Uh huh, I mean I
Speaker 1: think we'll be there. I think it's our jobs to watch,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I think we are the culture.
Speaker 1: E's this bo I think if we don't watch the
Speaker 1: Golden Globes, who's watching? Oh yes, our millennial asses who
Speaker 1: bought into the glitz and glamour of the HFPA as
Speaker 1: children and we.
Speaker 2: Did totally completely dead and then we have to watch.
Speaker 2: Speaking of having to watch, I think you guys have
Speaker 2: to watch Matt and I very briefly appear at Andy
Speaker 2: and Anderson's CNN New Year's Eve. Oh bash, We'll be
Speaker 2: briefly appearing and talking to our guys Andy and Anderson.
Speaker 1: I've never met Anderson. He's lovely, I'm certain of that,
Speaker 1: that's true. I mean, like he's such a such a minch.
Speaker 2: Yes, he is the North Star gay guy. For my parents.
Speaker 2: He was like, well, you know, Anderson has a baby
Speaker 2: and you can too.
Speaker 1: And I go, uh huh do they say that?
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh they say that all the time. And then like,
Speaker 2: you know Anderson, I think they call him Cooper something.
Speaker 2: They Cooper has owns a home and you should too,
Speaker 2: And I'm.
Speaker 1: Like, uh huh, Yeah, Cooper owns a home.
Speaker 2: Cooper has a firehouse?
Speaker 1: Yeah he sure does.
Speaker 2: Does he still live there? Remember that was like the
Speaker 2: big like West Village.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was like the Bachelor of New York. I
Speaker 1: remember like the stories about Anderson Cooper, like being spotted
Speaker 1: leaving David Barton. Jim Oh, this was like true NYU
Speaker 1: culture was like of the time. We're like two thousand
Speaker 1: and eight to twenty twelve, like everyone would be talking
Speaker 1: in about like, oh, did you see Anderson Cooper was
Speaker 1: leaving David Barton's gym right over the Aster Cuts, right
Speaker 1: a haircutter place where I still go. I still roll
Speaker 1: the dice every single time. I don't have an ordinary
Speaker 1: person that cuts my hair. I just go roll the
Speaker 1: dice at Astercuts and I leave with a debulous haircut
Speaker 1: every single time.
Speaker 2: What's the price now? Like still twenty dollars or something.
Speaker 1: Oh it's something reasonable, you know what I mean, Like
Speaker 1: I love that place. It feels like a neighborhood spot,
Speaker 1: even though it's probably so expensive the rent, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. Like that's like in the heart of Astroport.
Speaker 2: Remember when they were going to maybe close during COVID. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that was devastating, so devastating. You know what's still there too,
Speaker 2: The Super and Burger. Oh cozy super Burger. Oh that
Speaker 2: is a classic. That's a classic spot. We were driving
Speaker 2: down Saint Mark's like and through Astra Place on Saturday
Speaker 2: night with Sudi and Mo, and I was like, I
Speaker 2: can't believe this was my neighborhood. Like I used to
Speaker 2: Like this was every day for me, was walking down
Speaker 2: Saint Mark's onto campus quote unquote, like staying BOKESD for
Speaker 2: like twelve hours and then going straight home. I I was,
Speaker 2: I did not really do much in college besides go
Speaker 2: to like our little comedy parties, and that was like
Speaker 2: I didn't really like socialize outside of comedy kids.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I get. I mean, like I always feel like
Speaker 1: looking back, all of our friends were the straight comedy kids,
Speaker 1: which I think is great, but like I didn't have
Speaker 1: any like gay friends. Like it was like you and me,
Speaker 1: and then we would always do like you know, sketch
Speaker 1: and improv parties. And then we didn't really have like
Speaker 1: we didn't go out to like gay bars, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, We didn't do that.
Speaker 2: No, it was unique Colin court Aposse, who has now
Speaker 2: moved to New York. Oh and yeah, and that was it.
Speaker 2: We were like the little gay crew.
Speaker 1: But but maybe you did some more gay stuff to
Speaker 1: ever go to the Splash was that place? Yes, Splash did.
Speaker 2: I never set food and Splash people are so like
Speaker 2: all like the age twinks of that time are like.
Speaker 1: Yes, our generation, yeah, yeah, it's like this storied place.
Speaker 1: And so basically if everyone listening doesn't know what Splash is,
Speaker 1: it was like sort of like the gay bar where
Speaker 1: you could absolutely be eighteen and get in and drink
Speaker 1: and carry on and like god, who knows what went
Speaker 1: down there, but like it was definitely like the underage
Speaker 1: gay nightclub in New York. And for some reason they
Speaker 1: got away with that for a really long time.
Speaker 2: I know, even though like word on the street was
Speaker 2: that like it was every underage person. But I had
Speaker 2: a couple pre medgays that I would like go out with.
Speaker 2: The first gay bar I ever went to was Urge,
Speaker 2: which was this village it's no longer there, and it
Speaker 2: blew my mind. I thought every gay bar had go
Speaker 2: go dancers and did that. Took some danger box kids
Speaker 2: there once. I think I took Nick Packard there and
Speaker 2: Mike Spence there and like Spencer Novak there and like
Speaker 2: all those boys, those straight.
Speaker 1: Points, you were hoping they'd feel the Urge.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, I was just they were just like,
Speaker 2: let's go. I was like, let's go to a gay bar,
Speaker 2: and they're like okay, and then I think, yeah, I
Speaker 2: was like twenty one, freshly twenty one and went to
Speaker 2: the Cock, which still exists, but back then it was
Speaker 2: like a little bit diceier, even dicier than it is now.
Speaker 2: And like within five minutes of walking in, some complete
Speaker 2: stranger freakazoid like stuck his tongue down my throat and
Speaker 2: I was like, we gotta go. Like it was New
Speaker 2: York was even back then, even when people said that
Speaker 2: it died. Then I'm like, no, like that's its own legend.
Speaker 2: Everything calcifes into its own little legend. Yeah. In time,
Speaker 2: you know, I think.
Speaker 1: My first gay bar was Phoenix. Oh, Phoenix is solid. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Phoenix was I mean Phoenix is still there, right, yeah, Phoenix.
Speaker 1: The only one that we've lost that I'm like really
Speaker 1: really hurts my soul is boiler Roat. I know, boiler
Speaker 1: room being gone is it feels like.
Speaker 2: A tragedy now, I know.
Speaker 1: And did you know that like the duplex upstairs cabaret
Speaker 1: s Base is also no more? What? Yeah? I know,
Speaker 1: Like that's where I started. Have you heard of Christmas?
Speaker 1: Like that's where I started performing at. Like we saw
Speaker 1: so many shows there, like Gayshoar and Jackson started there.
Speaker 2: That's where I I'm the hardest there with Gray's Anatomy improv.
Speaker 1: That's where we bombed the hardest.
Speaker 2: Then we bombed the hardest there. Cola Scola we do
Speaker 2: their shows there. Oh wow, that's so sad.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, now they don't do shows there anymore. I
Speaker 1: guess since the pandemic. It's just it's like and like
Speaker 1: to hear about like those certain places being endangered. That
Speaker 1: really hurts. Yeah, that really hurts. And I was just
Speaker 1: in Austin and Rainy Street is just gone. What like
Speaker 1: Rainy Street like it's not what it used to be
Speaker 1: like it used to be just like a run of
Speaker 1: like cool bars and like really really really like it
Speaker 1: was just so unique to that city. And like I
Speaker 1: don't know people from Austin know, but like now it's
Speaker 1: like a lot of condos hotels. By the way, I
Speaker 1: did watch the last episode of Potomac. I just caught
Speaker 1: up on Potomac on the plane just because. And they
Speaker 1: went to Austin and they stayed in the hotel that
Speaker 1: I stayed in last year when I was doing my
Speaker 1: Christmas store, which is right on Rainy Street. And the
Speaker 1: whole bit of the Potomac episode was, Wow, there's so
Speaker 1: much construction around right, And it's because like there's so
Speaker 1: much construction in that area that used to be so cool.
Speaker 1: It's like all getting like condo fied, Like Austin is
Speaker 1: Austin stay weird, more like Austin getting corporate.
Speaker 2: Austin getting Silicon valleyed.
Speaker 1: It was not my favorite thing to see. I hate
Speaker 1: to see it.
Speaker 2: Well, Ken Harry's must still be there.
Speaker 1: No, I don't think so. Really, well, it's not in
Speaker 1: La anymore like that. There's one in Austin the original Okay,
Speaker 1: I have to verify that I don't know, but definitely
Speaker 1: the one in La Is Gone, which also stung.
Speaker 2: Yeah, totally. Oh did you ever go to Eastern Bloc,
Speaker 2: because speaking of Andy and Anderson, that was the first
Speaker 2: time I saw them in person, and Sam Tager and
Speaker 2: I went when we were like twenty three and we
Speaker 2: were so starstruck.
Speaker 1: Didn't you reach out for Andy's hand?
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then like, oh my god, that's so embarrassing.
Speaker 2: I reached out for Andy's hand. I had never been
Speaker 2: not close to a famous person before, and he touched
Speaker 2: it back. He touched it back and stroked my arm,
Speaker 2: but like didn't see who who was touching him. He
Speaker 2: just kind of like, ooh, whoever's touching me? That was
Speaker 2: our first little spark. You're not the only one who
Speaker 2: has chemistry with him.
Speaker 1: I'm dying. You have to tell him that.
Speaker 2: I think I did. I think he knows.
Speaker 1: We should tell him that. Will be are on with
Speaker 1: them on CNN and be like, excuse me, gentleman.
Speaker 2: In front of millions of people.
Speaker 1: Yeah, be like, hey, last time I saw you guests
Speaker 1: together was at Eastern Bloc. I grazed you.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: I was actually just at Club Coming, which used to
Speaker 1: be Eastern black. I performed at Club Coming for the
Speaker 1: first time in years because Alan was having like a
Speaker 1: charity show and I will go wherever Alan tells me
Speaker 1: to go, and I'll say this sound'im coming.
Speaker 2: I was gonna ask, yes, what did he say?
Speaker 1: I was like, how did it go? Trader season two?
Speaker 1: And he said, it's a better season this year than
Speaker 1: last year.
Speaker 2: Wow? Of course, because it's all it's all reality people.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he said that, because it was all reality people,
Speaker 1: it was way better. He said he had a blast
Speaker 1: doing it. He like lit up when I asked him
Speaker 1: about it. He told me a little bit of tea,
Speaker 1: nothing too crazy, but like.
Speaker 2: He told always liked the team.
Speaker 1: No, no, no. He literally didn't even say any names
Speaker 1: or anything. He was just like he just gave a
Speaker 1: sense of like what kind of personalities were there. And
Speaker 1: I was like, well, I've no I know the cast.
Speaker 1: He was like, You're not going to be disappointed, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like he seemed like it's going
Speaker 1: to be really good.
Speaker 2: If Larsa Pippen takes it all home to scream.
Speaker 1: I hope that Parvety wins.
Speaker 2: That feels like too obvious, though, and I feel like
Speaker 2: the players would.
Speaker 1: So did Suri. Suri winning also felt too obvious, not necessarily, well,
Speaker 1: I mean, I think it would be too obvious if
Speaker 1: Parverty was a trader, That's what I'll say. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I want one of the housewives to be a trader.
Speaker 1: Bad oh.
Speaker 2: I would love for a house off to be a trader.
Speaker 2: If Parverty was a faithful and one, that would be amazing.
Speaker 1: I would I like to see Phaedri be a trader.
Speaker 2: She would be an amazing trader. That is a calculated person,
Speaker 2: calculating a person.
Speaker 1: We know this. I'm not saying anything. We don't know
Speaker 1: she does the calculations. Apparently Married to Medicine is good
Speaker 1: this year, padress on it. I don't know. I do
Speaker 1: have to say I watched Potomac. I watched these last
Speaker 1: two episodes just to catch up. You haven't watched them, right.
Speaker 2: No, But the Vulture recapper, I think said that this
Speaker 2: week's episode was decent. Was the best of the season.
Speaker 2: Maybe not?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it probably was. You know, it ends
Speaker 1: with Robin breaking down in the van. I'm like, she
Speaker 1: was like trying to make me a villain. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: so that that's happening. It's still a little weird with
Speaker 1: the Wendy Necker stuff. But one thing I'll say is,
Speaker 1: you know who's come from behind is Mia Thornton. Now legendary.
Speaker 1: Mia Thornton is now the star of the show. She's
Speaker 1: now the star of the show. She's center time. And
Speaker 1: whenever they held they hold the champagne flue.
Speaker 2: Is she really in the center.
Speaker 1: No, you're just saying, God.
Speaker 2: This is how bad I am. I'm classless. I'm below
Speaker 2: the dirt with these women. Because I commented on the
Speaker 2: reel of Mia in front of the Watchford Happens Live,
Speaker 2: Step and Repeat on my public account, I said, flop
Speaker 2: and like, I'm like openly like cyberbullying these strangers. But
Speaker 2: like the comments on that on the rest of that
Speaker 2: reel were much worse than what I wass saying, Like
Speaker 2: the Internet, we do not like this woman. I don't
Speaker 2: think she can come from behind anywhere, from any angle
Speaker 2: any which way.
Speaker 1: I honestly, you know what's weird is that, Like I
Speaker 1: know that that's true, Like I know that, like Mia
Speaker 1: is Mia. Like that's why I call her the legendary
Speaker 1: Mia Thornton is because I would describe her as not legendary.
Speaker 1: But this all being said, like she is the one
Speaker 1: probably with the most compelling thing going on, which is
Speaker 1: like I guess her small. So I don't know. I've
Speaker 1: literally awning as I'm even saying this, like the show
Speaker 1: is not the it's it's not good, and you know
Speaker 1: what's funny, Like I actually experimented with art this week
Speaker 1: and I went to see The Boy and the heron
Speaker 1: Oh my god, what did you think? I said, I'm
Speaker 1: leaving Potomac behind. I'm going to see me as Aari.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, the legendary me a Zaki.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's actually real coaching number eight, me and Thornton, more.
Speaker 2: Like the legend Zaki period.
Speaker 1: That's real coaching number eighty eight. Yes, but I saw it.
Speaker 1: It was stunning. I mean, the animation is absolutely wild
Speaker 1: time once it really comes to life, and like it's
Speaker 1: almost like I can't really explain the plot because it's
Speaker 1: not really the point. No, Like I left it and
Speaker 1: I had taken like a twenty five milligram edible too,
Speaker 1: and I'm watching it and I'm just like like absorbing
Speaker 1: all of this, and then afterwards I was like I
Speaker 1: have to read a smart thing piece on this, let
Speaker 1: me tell you.
Speaker 2: Or you don't even really need to. That's the thing
Speaker 2: with me Azaki films is that, like you watch them
Speaker 2: and it's whatever you felt during the viewing experience. It's
Speaker 2: not about plot, it's not about I hate to say this,
Speaker 2: but it really is just about vibes. And I hate
Speaker 2: that I'm using that word reducing this genius, one of
Speaker 2: the best animated film the best animated filmmaker of all time.
Speaker 1: To vibebe to the word vibe. Yazaki is vibe. I'm
Speaker 1: still a coach at number fourteen.
Speaker 2: Mia Zaki is es. I'm so excited to see it
Speaker 2: a premiere at tiff when me, Aaron and Joshua there
Speaker 2: and we wanted to see it so badly but we
Speaker 2: never got around to it. But oh my god, have
Speaker 2: you ever seen Kiki's Delivery Service in the English dub
Speaker 2: No the girl who plays Kiki, I'm like, oh my god,
Speaker 2: Like she sounds so familiar. Who is that Kirsten Dunst, Wow,
Speaker 2: giving like an expert level voice acting performance when she
Speaker 2: was like twelve.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean expect nothing less from the greatest, from
Speaker 1: the greatest.
Speaker 2: Really truly, she was like twelve when they did that,
Speaker 2: and was like Phil Hartman plays the little cat like god,
Speaker 2: like this is the thing Miyazaki film. The English dubs
Speaker 2: are fantastic because there's a lot of like you know,
Speaker 2: with Japanese animation. With anime, it's like there are peurists
Speaker 2: who are like, no, you only listen to the Japanese
Speaker 2: original audio, like that's the way to consume it, and
Speaker 2: like the dubs are sometimes like completely bastardized, but like
Speaker 2: all the Miyazaki homes have a consistent like quality in
Speaker 2: terms of like the American slash English actors that they cast, Yeah,
Speaker 2: was it in English? It was great?
Speaker 1: And Robert Pattinson played the heron yes, and it was
Speaker 1: a voice I have never I would never if had
Speaker 1: you told me to guess. Basically, Willem Dafoe is also
Speaker 1: in this, and I would have guessed that he was
Speaker 1: playing the hero and maybe other roles because of just
Speaker 1: the vocal quality of the performance. But I never would
Speaker 1: have guessed this was Robert Pattinson. Willem Dafoe is like
Speaker 1: really great in the movie and scary, and Jemma Chan
Speaker 1: is in it right, and it really did. It had
Speaker 1: like an iconic voice cast, and I was blown away
Speaker 1: that that was Robert Pattinson. But Robie he's in his
Speaker 1: art bag.
Speaker 2: Well he is. He has a way with voice and
Speaker 2: dialect and like him in Good Time. Did you ever
Speaker 2: see Good Time? That's Happy Brothers movie.
Speaker 1: No, I didn't see it.
Speaker 2: He does like fucking New Yorker like he did, but
Speaker 2: he does it so well that I'm just like that
Speaker 2: was when I was like, oh, this guy can like
Speaker 2: really drop into anything like any tamber.
Speaker 1: Who knew that the cast of Twilight would give such thespians.
Speaker 1: But also you know, it's almost like Riverdale with Charles Melton,
Speaker 1: like you can't be writing these people out, never writing
Speaker 1: these people off. Rather because they do these projects that
Speaker 1: like they just so happened to be, like I guess,
Speaker 1: attractive and charismatic enough to book when they were younger,
Speaker 1: Like of course that's, of course that's gonna make a
Speaker 1: There's gonna be a certain ripeness there for that person
Speaker 1: to cultivate talent and then become a movie star because
Speaker 1: there was already something about them, like you know who else.
Speaker 1: I'm obsessed with Lily ryan Hart from river yal And
Speaker 1: she was some fucking great in Hustlers. I love her.
Speaker 1: I can't wait to see what she does, Kiki, Kiki.
Speaker 2: Well, this is the thing. Like back in the day,
Speaker 2: it was like Michelle Williams The Teen, Yeah, the Teen
Speaker 2: sort of like Coterie to like Prestige. Pipeline was like
Speaker 2: very there was no blueprint for it. It was just
Speaker 2: like Michelle Williams was like the first one that was
Speaker 2: like oh wow, like you can really yeah, super prestige
Speaker 2: like parlay that and then yeah, this is but like
Speaker 2: it's happening more and more, which is kind of cool.
Speaker 1: Well, I was watching like the interviews, like Natalie Portman
Speaker 1: and Julianne Moore have been doing a bunch of let
Speaker 1: me just say, delightful interviews on the May December.
Speaker 2: They're wonderful together.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're so great, And I didn't realize that, I guess.
Speaker 1: Julian Moore started on As the World Turns playing twins
Speaker 1: and one of the twins that she was playing was
Speaker 1: on trial for murder but she didn't remember committing it
Speaker 1: because she had amnesia. And then it was revealed that
Speaker 1: she did not commit the murder, and I was like,
Speaker 1: if you could think of a more soap opera asked
Speaker 1: story light than that, raise your hand. I'm ready to
Speaker 1: call on you, third grader, because it's time for you
Speaker 1: to start writing, because this was iconic and honestly, that
Speaker 1: should be where The Morning Show season four goes next year.
Speaker 1: I want to see full on long Lost Twin Murderer
Speaker 1: Amnesia on trial.
Speaker 2: That's every trope, that's every trope and soaps. Yeah, truly, Twins, Amnesia, murder,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and Julianne Moore would then become Julianne Moore after it. Okay,
Speaker 1: That's the thing.
Speaker 2: Soap acting is so specific and difficult, and like it
Speaker 2: was like the place people would book their first jobs.
Speaker 2: Like like Lisa Rinna does a very good job in
Speaker 2: that space, you cannot deny.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know that's her mode as a performer is
Speaker 1: on ten committed and selling it, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like that's what Lisa Rinna is gonna do is sell it.
Speaker 2: Okay, absolutely absolutely.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of other like, oh, I remember
Speaker 1: when I was little, like my mom was obsessed with
Speaker 1: all my children and.
Speaker 2: My mom, yeah, we've talked about this left all my children.
Speaker 1: Josh Dummel was on it. Sarah Michelle Geller played Erica
Speaker 1: Kane's daughter Kendall, and that was where she got her start.
Speaker 1: I mean famously. I guess Margot Robbie was a soap
Speaker 1: star in Australia. I believe, like, oh god, I almost
Speaker 1: said Kylie Minogue, but I would think it was just
Speaker 1: on my Australia tip. But she might have done soaps
Speaker 1: in Australia too when she was younger. All the gays
Speaker 1: in La went to go see Kylie Minogue k Frishleiker's
Speaker 1: birthday and they said it was absolutely stunning. And I said, Kylie,
Speaker 1: that's someone, that's someone we gotta go pay respects to.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, that woman fucking sired me. Yeah, you
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Would you say it was a combination a tag team
Speaker 1: of her in Seline Neon, which made Bowen Yang.
Speaker 2: Yes, well, Kylie, I like came to when I was
Speaker 2: really Oh my god, I was. I had a dance
Speaker 2: dance revolution DDR. You had no no, but this is
Speaker 2: the thing. My mom would be at Costco at the
Speaker 2: park Menos mall and then I'd be like, Mom, I'm
Speaker 2: going across the street to best Buy and I would
Speaker 2: go to best By were at the center of the
Speaker 2: shore and there was a giant TV, A PS two
Speaker 2: and two DDR dance pads. It was like a fucking amphitheater. No,
Speaker 2: it was like a coliseum. Like three six people would
Speaker 2: start to gather around me, and this like thirty year
Speaker 2: old girl, like goth girl, who would it was her?
Speaker 2: And this like scrawny Asian fourteen year old boy fucking slayhing,
Speaker 2: fucking throwing arms and elbows and legs and knees and
Speaker 2: feet around to every fucking trash techno song from that era.
Speaker 2: But there was a song called love at First Sight. Yeah, well,
Speaker 2: I mean I kick get you out of my head.
Speaker 2: I was like I was, and I was like, who
Speaker 2: is this woman? And then thus began my obsession with.
Speaker 1: You've said that? So that is an iconic mom in line.
Speaker 1: Who is this this woman? That is something you've said? Anythings?
Speaker 2: This, this gay male experience is asking who is this this woman?
Speaker 1: That's actually real culture number forty, the gay male experiences
Speaker 1: asking who is this woman?
Speaker 2: Title of that is who is this woman?
Speaker 1: Should the title be who is this woman? Or slay
Speaker 1: with your friends? Slay with your friends, slay the tree
Speaker 1: the cherie Oh my god? Yeah, well she looked amazing.
Speaker 1: Apparently she was amazing. The venue that she performs in
Speaker 1: Vegas is like really cool, very intimate, and she goes
Speaker 1: right up into the crowd and goes right next to
Speaker 1: the tables, and like it's sort of like up close
Speaker 1: with Kylie, up close and personal with Kylie Minogue.
Speaker 2: Carla, I love that we have to see her. I
Speaker 2: have so much Vegas ketchup to play.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, the fact that you've not yet seen Adele,
Speaker 1: I would show go with you again next year. I
Speaker 1: would go see. Oh my god, you missed Kelly too. Oh.
Speaker 2: I know, miss I have not been since like two
Speaker 2: thousand and seven.
Speaker 1: You know what we need to do, and it's dangerous
Speaker 1: to say, let's be there for more than three days,
Speaker 1: but we need to figure out a way that we
Speaker 1: can see at least two in a weekend, and one
Speaker 1: of them might have to be.
Speaker 2: Katieina Extina A one.
Speaker 1: Katie's done, Katie's cooking Ika, she hang up the cherries
Speaker 1: and the lemons or whatever the hell goes on.
Speaker 2: Right right the toilet paper.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I need to go see Kylie for sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: My deepest lifelong regret is never seeing Selene in Vegas.
Speaker 1: That was one hundred percent one of my greatest regrets too.
Speaker 1: Do you remember that we had tickets to see her
Speaker 1: in Madison Square Garden and then we didn't go? Oh
Speaker 1: do you remember this? Like this was like what like
Speaker 1: twenty ninety.
Speaker 2: No I remember, but I think I like blocked that
Speaker 2: out because of the shame.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because of what a horrible memory it is.
Speaker 2: This woman may never sing again. Oh my, can't think
Speaker 2: of it. I can't talk about it. Oh no, no, no,
Speaker 2: no no.
Speaker 1: That's why I always say see the legends while you
Speaker 1: can go go see her.
Speaker 2: You're gonna hate me what They invited me to go
Speaker 2: see Madonna on Thursday, And then yesterday I was talking
Speaker 2: They invited like me and a couple of people from work,
Speaker 2: and I was talking to Ago about it and I
Speaker 2: was like, I don't know what the vibe is like
Speaker 2: Thursday nights, Like I think, I say, yeah, like we're
Speaker 2: all like again, this is not me complaining about you know, work.
Speaker 1: It's a tough part of the week.
Speaker 2: It's a tough part of the week. But and like
Speaker 2: also it's the third show, it's Christmas. We've only had
Speaker 2: like one week long breaks and everyone's a little cooked. Yeah,
Speaker 2: totally at SNL at the moment, and so we're just like,
Speaker 2: I don't think this is the time to do it,
Speaker 2: and so I pulled out. But I was going into
Speaker 2: a little box and see it. But I don't think
Speaker 2: I can.
Speaker 1: I don't think I have it in me.
Speaker 2: But it's Madge, and it's like, this is the last time.
Speaker 1: I think that you have to you have to really
Speaker 1: con or that. But also like you don't want to
Speaker 1: be fucking exhausted on Friday and Saturday. And also if
Speaker 1: you're gonna go see Madge, you gotta go all the
Speaker 1: way in totally you gotta go Madge.
Speaker 2: Nicki Minaj Pink Friday two World Tour, oh March thirtieth
Speaker 2: in New York. MSG, that's an interesting thought, interesting thought
Speaker 2: out there.
Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on the album.
Speaker 2: I don't know that it necessarily should have. I think
Speaker 2: it's a you know, it's an obvious sort of like
Speaker 2: marketing thing to call it a sequel to Pink Friday,
Speaker 2: right right, High High's low Lows.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say those, yeah, same thing, Hig High
Speaker 1: as low.
Speaker 2: Which makes it feel like Queen in a way, and
Speaker 2: I feel like Queen has aged Okay, it doesn't sit
Speaker 2: up there with like her best stuff, which again like
Speaker 2: as otherwise like her mixtapes and her The Friday sort
Speaker 2: of like series in terms of like Pink Friday, Romans, Revenge, Drman, Reloaded,
Speaker 2: and Pink Print.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say that I was really excited when
Speaker 1: Barbie Dangerous started. I was like, Oh, here we go.
Speaker 1: I was like, I was like, this is where we're starting.
Speaker 1: I'm really really excited. And then I didn't really get
Speaker 1: excited again. But through throughout I was like, oh, this
Speaker 1: is moments, and then I don't know, I did. I
Speaker 1: did find myself like gravitating more towards.
Speaker 2: Like fuck the club up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I really liked Cowgirl.
Speaker 2: Cowgirl's great.
Speaker 1: I get that everybody is probably gonna be a huge hit.
Speaker 1: I you know, Like I don't know, but I guess
Speaker 1: like I was just I was waiting for something a
Speaker 1: little bit more high impact and a little bit more original.
Speaker 1: I guess that's what I liked about Queen and the
Speaker 1: Pink Print is it felt like they were something different.
Speaker 1: And now it's like Pink Friday too, Like I understand
Speaker 1: that we're doing a sequel to Pink Friday, but I
Speaker 1: think the fact that like then in and of itself,
Speaker 1: like isn't inherently completely original, kind of takes something from
Speaker 1: it for me. And also like when you call something
Speaker 1: a sequel like Pink Friday too, like you have to
Speaker 1: then you are then like presenting it in the shadow
Speaker 1: of Pink Friday, which is such a fucking moment and
Speaker 1: was such an original burst of like this new talent
Speaker 1: and all this new, like you know, something we hadn't
Speaker 1: seen before this like pop fused hip hop like super
Speaker 1: nova that she was like, that's all here. But I'm
Speaker 1: missing the moments in the album where I'm like, whoa,
Speaker 1: Like this feels brand new, and this feels like really
Speaker 1: exciting and different for her, and I'm like, but definitely
Speaker 1: her talent is on display, and like I enjoy listening
Speaker 1: to it. I just wonder if it's too long, And
Speaker 1: I wonder if we could have just packaged it a
Speaker 1: little bit differently and we might like it more because
Speaker 1: it wouldn't feel like, you know, in the shadow of
Speaker 1: its predecessor. But also I do agree that is obviously
Speaker 1: a marketing thing, and I do think the marketing thing
Speaker 1: worked because everyone knows this album is out, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, Like in presenting it like this, like
Speaker 1: you do like sort of harken back to a monoculture
Speaker 1: ish type thing, which was Pink Friday. You know what
Speaker 1: I mean, Like everyone knows the pink thing with Nikki,
Speaker 1: Like right, the Empire staple thing can be lit up
Speaker 1: pink and we get why.
Speaker 2: Was it let a pink for that?
Speaker 1: It was?
Speaker 2: That's amazing. I mean, gag City is like the best.
Speaker 2: It's it's actually like the most impressive, amazing grassroots fan
Speaker 2: marketing campaign ever. I love it, and I love Gag
Speaker 2: City so much, but like, yeah, I guess that's what's
Speaker 2: some sort of booying this album for now, and like
Speaker 2: who knows in a few months, like what we'll be
Speaker 2: talking about in terms of this album. I do think
Speaker 2: everybody will probably be a single. I think Pink Friday
Speaker 2: Girls is they'll they'll be they'll be huge hits. I
Speaker 2: just I think I can't tell, am I crazy. I'm
Speaker 2: like the thing of Pink Friday wasn't that it was
Speaker 2: all samples, Like every song is a sample here, which
Speaker 2: there's nothing wrong with that. It doesn't cheapen anything, but
Speaker 2: but to your point, it's like it also kind of
Speaker 2: like is another degree of separation away from any kind
Speaker 2: of original feeling, novelty sort of thing we get from
Speaker 2: this kind of album from her, from her big return.
Speaker 1: What do you think of the billy sample that opens
Speaker 1: the album?
Speaker 2: I was so shocked, like I pressed to play on
Speaker 2: the album. I was like, wait, are you wait? Really
Speaker 2: this like that?
Speaker 1: We did not know that's where we'd be starting.
Speaker 2: I know, mean neither. I was like cool, like it
Speaker 2: like got it, like got me to pay attention. I
Speaker 2: was like, oh that's what. That's a big swing but great.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, well I'm going to continue to be spinning
Speaker 1: her and we'll see if she lights me up anymore. Okay,
Speaker 1: I mean you know I did. I did, like last
Speaker 1: time that I saw you. It's buried all the way
Speaker 1: the album. Like at one point I looked at the
Speaker 1: trap list. I was like, Okay, how far am a
Speaker 1: way am I from this being over? Which probably is
Speaker 1: not a great sign, but I couldn't believe how long
Speaker 1: the album was, Like, whoa, we had no qualm stop
Speaker 1: making this longest album in the world.
Speaker 2: Huh right, girl, I have to confess something. What do
Speaker 2: you confessing a song that I'm currently obsessed with? What
Speaker 2: is she Loving on Me? By Jack Carlow I'm like,
Speaker 2: this is a fucking one of his girls.
Speaker 1: This is a.
Speaker 2: Fucking slay a hit. I'm one of his girls. Also
Speaker 2: lovely host when he hosted last season. Very funny person.
Speaker 2: I just never thought that, like I would be like
Speaker 2: one of his girls.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I never saw that for you either, Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I think like that you'd be a Jack Carlow.
Speaker 2: I like this song a lot, and it's the perfect
Speaker 2: It is like so indicative of this time in music
Speaker 2: where it's like it's two minutes, it's a sample, it's whatever.
Speaker 2: But I'm just like, you know what, it's whatever I'm
Speaker 2: going on. I'm going to repeat on this.
Speaker 1: It's easy to repeat because it's so short.
Speaker 2: And I'm really I think I'm really contributing to the streams,
Speaker 2: but so is the rest of the world.
Speaker 1: Well, listen, I support you and all your musical tastes endeavors. Everyone.
Speaker 1: Get out there and see films, listen to music, you know,
Speaker 1: get out there and experienced culture. Get out there and
Speaker 1: see me on tour.
Speaker 2: You must see mount on tour. Sneak in that sea,
Speaker 2: see the legends while you can see.
Speaker 1: The legends, while you can, cause one day I won't
Speaker 1: be performing anymore?
Speaker 2: Perish the thought.
Speaker 1: It's time for I don't think so, honey, what do
Speaker 1: you think?
Speaker 2: I think?
Speaker 1: So?
Speaker 2: Oh really quickly. I'm sure I'm not the only person
Speaker 2: to say this, but you know how how on Spotify,
Speaker 2: if you play a Taylor Swift song, there's a six
Speaker 2: pointed star that's on the bar. No, oh, you didn't
Speaker 2: notice this?
Speaker 1: What? What? What are you talking about?
Speaker 2: If you're going unless you didn't update your app? If
Speaker 2: you go on Spotify, play any Taylor song.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm playing cool Summer.
Speaker 2: Okay, now look at now, look at the thing? Oh
Speaker 2: on your phone?
Speaker 1: Okay, what am I supposed to see?
Speaker 2: Look at the time bar? Is it a circle? Or
Speaker 2: is it a star?
Speaker 1: It's a circle?
Speaker 2: Oh? Never mind, you must have done have updated your app?
Speaker 1: What is the star? Me?
Speaker 2: Okay, hold on, show, I'll show you the star.
Speaker 1: Is it just because it's Taylor and being a little frisky? Well?
Speaker 1: Or is it?
Speaker 2: I think it's a clue everyone thinks so I'm obviously
Speaker 2: not the Okay, so do you see that little star?
Speaker 1: You are? What is she trying to tell us?
Speaker 2: It's a six pointed star?
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 2: And what's her sixth album?
Speaker 1: Reputation. What is going on?
Speaker 2: I think we're gonna find coming. It's coming.
Speaker 1: I think REPTV is coming. Girl. And she called it
Speaker 1: what did she call it? An interview? She well, she
Speaker 1: was Times Person of the Year. And she called it
Speaker 1: a goth punk moment of female rage against a system
Speaker 1: that is gaslighting by an entire social structure. I was like, wow,
Speaker 1: you she has never failed to deliver with her insane soundbites.
Speaker 1: I would very much like to be excluded from this
Speaker 1: narrative and now this.
Speaker 2: But when she said that, I'm like, this girl. You know,
Speaker 2: this girl is like, Damn, I wish I went to college.
Speaker 2: Damn I wish I took Conversations of the West Humanities class.
Speaker 1: Oh No, Taylor Swift is Northwestern coded if I've ever
Speaker 1: seen it. Honestly, No, she's girl.
Speaker 2: She's Ivyley girl. Or I think there's a reason why
Speaker 2: she chose n YU to do her commencement speech. I
Speaker 2: think she would have been.
Speaker 1: I think that she would have been an n YU girl.
Speaker 1: I don't know. No, I see Taylor Swift on a campus.
Speaker 1: I see her like on a like like Stanford, Oh wow,
Speaker 1: not Stanford, Princeton, Princeton. No, Taylor Swift, Princeton values.
Speaker 2: Or she's dartmouth, she's she's giving Shonda Rhyme's Meredith Gray down. Anyway, Okay,
Speaker 2: this is I don't think so many where we take
Speaker 2: one minute to rail against something in culture. This is
Speaker 2: Matt Rodgers. I don't think so honey.
Speaker 1: Are you ready? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, time starts now.
Speaker 1: I don't think so honey. People being all in a
Speaker 1: fluffle and a cur fluff about me and Joy Behar
Speaker 1: on the view when I said that she was barefoot
Speaker 1: on a plane. So many people picked this up and
Speaker 1: acted like I had spit in the woman's face and
Speaker 1: that she had disinvited me from the show forever. It
Speaker 1: was a lighthearted thing. Her being barefoot was in my
Speaker 1: pre interview. It was gonna happen like it was a
Speaker 1: funny moment where I said, Joy, you were barefoot on
Speaker 1: a plane and I saw you and she said, don't
Speaker 1: tell them that. And then it was lighthearted and she
Speaker 1: laughed about it, and she said you outed me, And
Speaker 1: I said, Joy, you were not shy about it. Your
Speaker 1: feet were up and out and they were beautiful. She said,
Speaker 1: I do have pretty feet. It was a lighthearted moment,
Speaker 1: and you can't trust these medias because they will make
Speaker 1: something out of nothing. Like they made it seem like
Speaker 1: it was like an animosity moment. It was not. I
Speaker 1: had a lovely time with the View. It was a
Speaker 1: wish fulfillment for me to be in that studio with
Speaker 1: those iconic women, and when Whoopy said you have to
Speaker 1: come back, that was a dream moment. I don't think so, honey,
Speaker 1: anything other than that qualifies as a dream moment. My
Speaker 1: entire time in the View.
Speaker 2: That's one minute if you watch it, if you actually
Speaker 2: take the time to watch it, it was playfully, you know,
Speaker 2: facetiously done between both of you, and I have to
Speaker 2: say her feet were beautiful, perfectly polished nails, red nails.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you were a witness to it. They were absolutely stunning. Yep.
Speaker 1: I just do feel like, I don't think so, honey,
Speaker 1: bare feet on a plane, because as someone who is
Speaker 1: a survivor of athletes's foot which I'm open about on
Speaker 1: this podcast, I think we have to be considerate and
Speaker 1: careful when it comes to what our feet are capable of.
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm, mm hmmmm hmm.
Speaker 1: That's really all I have to say about it.
Speaker 2: Do you think your athlete's foot made my fingers start
Speaker 2: to peel.
Speaker 1: Were you touching my feet? Boone?
Speaker 2: And no, but you're you showed me your athletes foot
Speaker 2: pretty close to my face.
Speaker 1: Excuse me. I don't like the insinuation here. What's the
Speaker 1: being I think that you're trying to say that I
Speaker 1: was inconsiderate and your home and was spreading my fungal.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying you meant to spread your fungal, but
Speaker 2: I'm saying there's a possibility that your fungal made.
Speaker 1: Contact with my hand. Are your hands itching? No? Okay, well,
Speaker 1: then then you should just take it up with your
Speaker 1: dirm okay, because I don't think I have anything to
Speaker 1: do with its, sweetie. Okay, it looks like you need
Speaker 1: to handle yourself.
Speaker 2: Oh, govern your ass.
Speaker 1: Govern your ass, slay with your friends, more like pay
Speaker 1: for your sins. Okay, all right, this is bunny. Thanks.
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. I can tell you so
Speaker 1: ready and as time starts now.
Speaker 2: I don't think so, honey. Sometimes the Stanley cup don't
Speaker 2: be keeping your drinks cool long enough. This is my struggle.
Speaker 2: I don't mean to bite the hand that feeds because
Speaker 2: they did give me one for free and I'm so grateful,
Speaker 2: but I did not ask to be given that, and
Speaker 2: and there was no agreement that I would, you know,
Speaker 2: endorse it. And so my review is that sometimes it's
Speaker 2: catching a lot of fingerprints and it's not keeping the
Speaker 2: drinks cold, and the top collapse a lot of dust.
Speaker 2: So Stanley, I only want success for you, and you
Speaker 2: are a night now and I conic brand. You don't
Speaker 2: need my input. I doubt you'll even take this opinion
Speaker 2: to heart. But I think there's always room for improvement
Speaker 2: and everything in life, and God knows I have plenty
Speaker 2: of things to improve upon myself. But I think I
Speaker 2: would really thrive if the insulation was twenty four hours
Speaker 2: for cold drinks twelve hours for hot that would be
Speaker 2: an amazing sleigh.
Speaker 1: And that's one minute. And my comment on this is
Speaker 1: I've only had an incredible experience with all Stanley products
Speaker 1: I look forward to. I have to be honest showing
Speaker 1: them more in the future. I have to be honest,
Speaker 1: and I love I only say this because I care, No,
Speaker 1: I know you are the realist.
Speaker 2: Well, the reason I keep drinking from it is because
Speaker 2: the handle and it's so aesthetically beautiful.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it really is. I will say, I don't know
Speaker 1: if that black one is my favorite one, the one
Speaker 1: that you're drinking out of right now, this is not
Speaker 1: my favorite one. Like I like one of the ones
Speaker 1: with more of the color is, Like I have one
Speaker 1: that is like a reddish brown that is so chic
Speaker 1: that it is. It is the culture that made me
Speaker 1: say culture was for me. Yeah, that's and then I
Speaker 1: have a light blue one, which is stunning.
Speaker 2: And that was the culture that made you say stunning.
Speaker 1: That was the culture that first made me say stunning.
Speaker 1: It was the culture that made me say, I can
Speaker 1: slay with the drink. And we've been slaying with our
Speaker 1: friends all this episode long. It's been a culture catch up.
Speaker 1: We talked about the boy and the heron, we talked about.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Golden Globes.
Speaker 1: The Golden Globes were touched on, and you know, we
Speaker 1: got to know each other a little bit better.
Speaker 2: And that's always a treat, always a treat to eat.
Speaker 1: All right. Well, we end every episode of this podcast,
Speaker 1: Last Cultures.
Speaker 3: Us with a song I knew I was a robber
Speaker 3: first time that he saw never saying sorry, but if
Speaker 3: I'm a ghost, dun I mean in the island went
Speaker 3: to an ilell and.
Speaker 1: And it could be my jailer to this. Listen to
Speaker 1: the song from Reputation which TV is coming very soon.
Speaker 1: If we have the Spotify six star thing to go,
Speaker 1: Bye bye bye