WEBVTT - Back In The Building!

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Can't Flee Reckless, the production of iHeartRadio and

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<v Speaker 1>The Black Effect, And.

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<v Speaker 2>Just like that, we're back on the air.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to yet another Carefully Reckless episode with your

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<v Speaker 1>girl Jess Hilarious, where I'm fixing mess.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what I do. That's what I does.

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<v Speaker 1>Not only do I do it on The Black Effect

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<v Speaker 1>for Carefully Reckless on my own podcast, I do it

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<v Speaker 1>on Breakfast Club, on B E T and everywhere else.

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<v Speaker 1>You can listen to Breakfast Club back. Just make sure

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<v Speaker 1>you tune in every day. You know, I ain't knowing

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<v Speaker 1>it every day, but I will be, and.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm speaking it into existence. That's how you got it.

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<v Speaker 1>You gotta speak things as though they were speak as.

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<v Speaker 2>My bad Lord. I know that was in your good

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<v Speaker 2>old book.

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<v Speaker 1>I know it, but I don't really know it verbatim,

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<v Speaker 1>so I ain't even gonna touch it.

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<v Speaker 2>We're gonna jump straight in. Okay. So I've been getting

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<v Speaker 2>stories from everywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, now that I'm doing Breakfast Club and now that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm out and about, more and more people are asking

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<v Speaker 1>me in person. Oh, Kenny Kenn, I just had five

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<v Speaker 1>minutes your time, so you can hear me out fix

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<v Speaker 1>my mass. It was this lady at the airport, and

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<v Speaker 1>she asked me what should she do about this? I

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<v Speaker 1>was in Charlotte over the weekend and I met a

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<v Speaker 1>lady in the airport and she wanted to take a picture,

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<v Speaker 1>but she also said, can you help me with my mess?

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, I don't never help nobody in person.

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<v Speaker 1>I might have to charge you for that, and she

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<v Speaker 1>started laughing, but I could see that she was really

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<v Speaker 1>down or whatever. So she told me our story, and

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<v Speaker 1>she said, what do you do when you can't move

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<v Speaker 1>on from your ex and your ex can't move on

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<v Speaker 1>from you but they're in a new relationship. What what

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<v Speaker 1>do you mean?

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<v Speaker 2>What do you do?

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<v Speaker 1>You go get your man back, that's what you do,

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<v Speaker 1>because obviously he moved on a little bit too quick.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's what people do.

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<v Speaker 1>They they jump in relationships, they jump out of relationships,

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<v Speaker 1>and well, people do jumping it out. But this wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>her case. Her case was they were together for six

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<v Speaker 1>years and they were having a lot of problems or whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>so they were gonna take.

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<v Speaker 2>A break, but they still lived together. So that was

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<v Speaker 2>the thing. Now, separated living together.

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't even date a guy that tells me that

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<v Speaker 1>he's separated, but he's still living with his girl. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>They weren't married, they were just boyfriend girlfriend for about six.

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<v Speaker 2>Years or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>But their struggles is why they broke up. They both

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<v Speaker 1>were struggling, and that's what it can happen. You know, finances,

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<v Speaker 1>that shit can actually bring a wall up in a

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<v Speaker 1>relationship and drive two partners away from each other.

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<v Speaker 2>That shit would make you go crazy because if you

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<v Speaker 2>if you feel like you.

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<v Speaker 1>Can't financially provide for you or your family, or you

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<v Speaker 1>or your girl or you were your guy, it fucks

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<v Speaker 1>with you mentally, you know what I'm saying. And that shit,

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<v Speaker 1>that shit takes away from your confidence. It messes with

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<v Speaker 1>other areas like sex. You don't want to have sex,

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<v Speaker 1>no one. You can't get it up because you broke

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you can't get wet because.

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<v Speaker 2>You're thinking about what you're gonna do. Your bills are.

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<v Speaker 1>Going unpaid and all that type of stuff. So they

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<v Speaker 1>fell up on hard times and they broke up, and

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<v Speaker 1>I guess he still needed that fulfillment from somewhere. He

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<v Speaker 1>ended up meeting somebody getting into a relationship ship three

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<v Speaker 1>months after the breakup, and then shortly after, admits to

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<v Speaker 1>his ex that he made a mistake, and that's when

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<v Speaker 1>he told her, I'm in a whole relationship and I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>How to get out of it.

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<v Speaker 1>So he came to her to ask her for advice

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<v Speaker 1>to get out of the relationship with the new girl

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<v Speaker 1>so he can be back with her. What the hell

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<v Speaker 1>is going on? Just break it off with that girl,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. I told her to tell him,

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<v Speaker 1>just break it off with the girl, like you just

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<v Speaker 1>got to sit down and just be honest. Like he

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<v Speaker 1>was honest enough with you to tell you all of

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<v Speaker 1>that shit. He was honest.

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<v Speaker 2>I liked that.

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<v Speaker 1>That's how you know they were friends. That's how you

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<v Speaker 1>know there was a strong foundation. A lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>don't have that they were friends. Some people would be

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<v Speaker 1>half scared to death to go to their ex who

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<v Speaker 1>they're still in love with and tell them, yo, I

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<v Speaker 1>moved too fast. I got in a fucking relationship and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not over you, and I don't know what to do.

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<v Speaker 1>How can I break it off with this girl because

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to hurt her feelings because she she's

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<v Speaker 1>a very very sweet girl. And you, being that ex girlfriend,

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<v Speaker 1>really give the guy advice.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a bit step.

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<v Speaker 1>That takes a lot of patience and a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>damn dignity and also no ego and no pride, because

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<v Speaker 1>that that could never work with a motherfucker with pride,

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<v Speaker 1>could never work. Pride be so damn big, ego, be

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<v Speaker 1>so damn big. Oh he got me fucked up, be

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<v Speaker 1>so damn big. But I really liked this. I like

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<v Speaker 1>that he was very, very honest with her, came to

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<v Speaker 1>her about the shit and was like, Yo, what should

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<v Speaker 1>I do? And she didn't know, so when she saw me,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what she asked me. It was a two part

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<v Speaker 1>She was like, I don't know what the advice is.

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<v Speaker 1>He asked me for advice on how to break up

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<v Speaker 1>with her, and I'm asking you because I didn't know

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<v Speaker 1>what to tell him.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I'm also asking you, how do you move now?

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<v Speaker 1>How can we like, how do you just deal with

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<v Speaker 1>this situation? You know? So that's how you deal with it?

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<v Speaker 1>Get your man back obviously, you know he loves you,

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<v Speaker 1>and you left him. Y'all just needed to get over

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<v Speaker 1>whatever y'all needed to get over. Sometimes the end is

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<v Speaker 1>not always the end, you know. Sometimes it's just to

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<v Speaker 1>be continued. Y'all need to do y'all best team up

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<v Speaker 1>to break up with that girl together, so y'all can

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<v Speaker 1>continue get back with me, get back with me.

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<v Speaker 2>Because you said you was gonna listen.

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<v Speaker 1>I told you I was gonna talk about your story

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<v Speaker 1>on my podcast, So make sure you follow up and

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<v Speaker 1>you update me so I can update my listeners. Moving on,

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<v Speaker 1>So I did Breakfast Club a couple of days ago,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know I fixed mess on that now. As

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<v Speaker 1>I said to y'all previously, that was this girl that

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<v Speaker 1>called up. And I ain't gonna say this was dumb,

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<v Speaker 1>but sometimes people just.

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<v Speaker 2>Need to hear themselves talk.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why I like when y'all give me y'all mess,

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<v Speaker 1>because when it's borderline obvious, what the fuck you need

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<v Speaker 1>to do? Sometimes you just need to hear your story

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<v Speaker 1>told back to you. So this girl called up and said,

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder why I keep ghosting men.

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<v Speaker 2>I never make it past the talking stage, right.

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<v Speaker 1>So I was like, okay, okay, okay, trying to figure

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<v Speaker 1>it out because when people say that I never make

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<v Speaker 1>it past the talking stage, you know what it is, right,

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<v Speaker 1>It ain't them as you because you said you never

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<v Speaker 1>make it back so that means almost every guy never

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<v Speaker 1>makes a pass to talking stage because you ghost them.

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<v Speaker 1>What about them makes you want to ghost them? She said, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>it's only the guys that I like. I don't ghost

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<v Speaker 1>the guys that I really like. It just keeps happening

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<v Speaker 1>with the guys that chase me, because you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>got a nice ross that I got a nice little

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<v Speaker 1>thought in five. First of all, baby girl, back it up.

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<v Speaker 2>DA's your handsome right there? Girl.

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<v Speaker 1>You said you ghost the niggas that be chasing you,

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<v Speaker 1>but you don't ghost the niggas that you really like,

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<v Speaker 1>So that means you're chasing behind somebody too. That's how

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<v Speaker 1>it always go. The good girls always want the niggas

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<v Speaker 1>who really don't want them for them. I'm not saying

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<v Speaker 1>these niggas don't want you, the ones that you really like.

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<v Speaker 1>But you like a guy to play on to get you,

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<v Speaker 1>like a guy to act like he don't like you.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think a celebrity just said that.

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<v Speaker 2>One of Ruby Rose just said that.

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<v Speaker 1>She said she quote unquote, I don't know, well, don't

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<v Speaker 1>quote me at all.

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<v Speaker 2>Allegedly.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Ruby Rose they says she like guys who

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<v Speaker 1>don't like her back or who act like they don't

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<v Speaker 1>like her back.

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<v Speaker 2>Huh, you want to get nigga, don't you shit? What

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<v Speaker 2>you mean? You want a nigga to act like you

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<v Speaker 2>don't like you?

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<v Speaker 1>I excales, I f a you're talking about. So that's

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<v Speaker 1>not the right way to go. And that also means

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<v Speaker 1>that you like toxic shit because you like for a

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<v Speaker 1>motherfucker to feel one way but act another. That's toxic

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<v Speaker 1>as shit, girl, and I think that's mental as hell.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't do that now.

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<v Speaker 1>The guys that are chasing you, they probably wanting it

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<v Speaker 1>downing you, probably calling you and texting you every day,

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<v Speaker 1>every doing everything that you want from these niggas that

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<v Speaker 1>could care less. That's probably dicking you down every now

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<v Speaker 1>and then. And that's probably a smutting you out. And

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<v Speaker 1>the reason why I say smut because you having sex

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<v Speaker 1>with all the ones you like, but you ain't trying

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<v Speaker 1>to give no pussy to the ones that are chasing you.

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<v Speaker 2>That's crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>How about you stop to chase, turn around for a

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<v Speaker 1>second and pick one of them niggas who chasing you

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<v Speaker 1>and see how.

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<v Speaker 2>It actually goes.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why you don't get past the talking stage, because

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<v Speaker 1>nigga's too soft for you. The niggas that chase you

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<v Speaker 1>too pressed and too and too soft probably for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Get one of the niggas a chance, girl, I'm telling

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<v Speaker 1>you'll probably be right with kids. Settle down somewhere, and

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<v Speaker 1>you'll be writing me next year and talk about Jess.

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<v Speaker 2>Listening to you.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the best thing I ever did in my life.

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<v Speaker 1>So get back at me, girl, Get back simmy. Now

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<v Speaker 1>we got a commercial, and if you click off of

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<v Speaker 1>this podcast, I swear i'mnna beat your ass.

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<v Speaker 2>Listen.

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<v Speaker 1>Moving on, So last week we had somebody in person.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna do one every so often. We have another

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<v Speaker 1>person in person today that is gonna allow me to

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<v Speaker 1>try to fix their mess.

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<v Speaker 2>I ain't gonna let you know who they are.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna let you know what they are because

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<v Speaker 1>everybody is anonymous on this show.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, take it away.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, jazz girl, I'm urt Okay. So I just got

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<v Speaker 3>of a four year relationship. Wow, it was a few

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<v Speaker 3>months ago, so you can still say it's fresh.

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<v Speaker 2>And I just started being okay with dating a game

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<v Speaker 2>and I started talking to this guy.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, when you're starting to get into an relationship,

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<v Speaker 3>you want to let them know what you've been through,

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<v Speaker 3>just so you won't go through it again and give

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<v Speaker 3>them more insight on you. So I'm letting him know

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<v Speaker 3>what I've been through with my ex, and he's trying

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<v Speaker 3>to say that I'm comparing him to my ex, and

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<v Speaker 3>it's not.

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<v Speaker 2>That at all.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just literally, I don't want to repeat the same

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<v Speaker 3>cycle that I've been through with my ex.

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<v Speaker 2>Is traumatizing, you know, and it triggers me.

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<v Speaker 3>So I just want to know how can I communicate

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<v Speaker 3>with him without making it seem like I'm comparing him

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<v Speaker 3>to my ex.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So there's two ways that that could be taken.

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<v Speaker 1>There's two perspectives on that, because while you don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to be compared and people actually do it, sometimes you

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<v Speaker 1>do have to let that.

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<v Speaker 2>Person know what you just went through, not only so.

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<v Speaker 1>They won't do it, but so they can handle you accordingly,

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<v Speaker 1>they can handle you different, and so they can be like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>they can have a reference if you are triggered by

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<v Speaker 1>something or if something happens, it's like, oh man, she

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<v Speaker 1>went through this so or he went through this, so

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<v Speaker 1>this is why they act like that. Okay, and then

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<v Speaker 1>all right, now we're going to try to break that

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<v Speaker 1>and get them out of that. How can I reassure

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<v Speaker 1>this person that that shit ain't gonna happen over here

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<v Speaker 1>because now you in good hands, now, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's a meet in the middle type of situation.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me ask you this, how often would you bring

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<v Speaker 1>your ex up or your passed up?

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<v Speaker 2>Because that also plays a part too.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember when I was talking to this guy and

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<v Speaker 1>he brought up his ex every day, not because he

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<v Speaker 1>wanted her, not because he liked her, you know, or

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<v Speaker 1>he missed her. He bought her up every day because

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<v Speaker 1>he was just that fucked up over the relationship that

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<v Speaker 1>almost everything reminded him of being with her, even when

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<v Speaker 1>he was talking to me certain things. You know. She

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<v Speaker 1>was also an aggressive person, and you know I'm not always.

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<v Speaker 2>Aggressive, but my voice very aggressive off the rip.

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<v Speaker 1>Especially if you don't know me, you can take every

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<v Speaker 1>almost everything I say the wrong way, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm not even from New York, you know, we

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<v Speaker 2>from Baltimore, so you.

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<v Speaker 1>Know, but I would tell him, y'all, I'm tired of

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<v Speaker 1>him about your fucking ex.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't like this shit. I'm not used to this shit.

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody has ever spoken on the X so fucking much

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<v Speaker 1>do you fucking want her back? Or because honestly, like

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<v Speaker 1>I was so fed up, and I was so like

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<v Speaker 1>offended and defensive, Like I was just very like not

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<v Speaker 1>even trying to look at it in a way of

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<v Speaker 1>oh no, he's kind of telling me what he went through, and.

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<v Speaker 2>He's just very very fucked up. It was just very severe.

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<v Speaker 1>How often you know, would you bring up your past

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<v Speaker 1>or your ex to this guy?

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<v Speaker 3>To be honest, not that much, but I noticed it

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<v Speaker 3>started becoming more frequent when he started acting like my ex.

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<v Speaker 3>He can start, you know, doing malicious stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 3>It would be the same shit that my ex used

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<v Speaker 3>to do, and I would bring it up and I'm like, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>that's the shit that ran me away from him. That's

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<v Speaker 3>shit I don't like. It makes me feel uncomfortable. So

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<v Speaker 3>I fall back and he's like.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not your ex. I'm not your ex, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>stop comparing me to him. I don't do the same

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<v Speaker 2>but like him, Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's what I'm trying to battle with and get

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<v Speaker 3>him to understand.

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<v Speaker 2>So you actually said the words, you're acting like him.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 2>No, you're not supposed to say that because all right,

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<v Speaker 2>so all right, we'll stay asked this.

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<v Speaker 1>Tables were reversed, right, tables returned, and he told you,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you act like my ax.

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<v Speaker 2>You would go to fuck off?

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<v Speaker 1>Right, Yeah, it's a better way to say it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a better way to say it.

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<v Speaker 1>And to be honest if the nigga act like niggagg

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<v Speaker 1>like X to be honest with you. But a better

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<v Speaker 1>way of saying it is I've been through this before.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been through this before, and.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why I made myself single. That's why I left

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<v Speaker 1>my last relationship. I don't want to.

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<v Speaker 2>Go through this no more.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a trigger for me. This scares me. I'm not.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't want something not doing that again, I'm not.

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<v Speaker 1>He's still being compared, but it's not yo, you act

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<v Speaker 1>just like him or you act like my ex. Because

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<v Speaker 1>if this is a man that's trying to build something

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<v Speaker 1>with you, regardless of him acting like your ass, that

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<v Speaker 1>could drive a man crazy, that could fuck with their

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<v Speaker 1>self esteem, and that could always put in the back

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<v Speaker 1>as mine. She might really fucking go be back with

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<v Speaker 1>that nigga, because if I act like that, nigga.

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<v Speaker 2>She might as well just go be back with him.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm saying. You know, and literally you

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<v Speaker 2>saying the same thing.

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<v Speaker 1>If you gonna act like my ax, I could have

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<v Speaker 1>just stayed with my fucking ex. But that's not what

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to do. I don't want that type of shit. No,

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<v Speaker 1>more like I don't want to be treated that way.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't like this part about the relationship. So you

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<v Speaker 1>either got to like compromise with me, change that or

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<v Speaker 1>that's it. But y'all want in a relationship. Y'all were

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<v Speaker 1>just talking and because I know you said you didn't

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<v Speaker 1>even want to be in a relationship. Yeah, and then

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<v Speaker 1>that was early on, so he probably felt like on

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<v Speaker 1>his end, that's a red flag. She already saying, I

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<v Speaker 1>act like I asked and all of that. But then

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<v Speaker 1>you should see that as a red flag too. Oh no,

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<v Speaker 1>it's the same type of nigga.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh hell no, uh uh hold up.

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<v Speaker 1>I know this shit getting good, But listen to just

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<v Speaker 1>a couple seconds of a commercial.

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<v Speaker 2>If you love me, you'll listen.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's a lot. It took a lot for me

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<v Speaker 3>to get to say that he acts like my ex.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm having a conversation with him and I'm not even

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<v Speaker 3>bringing up my ex, but I'm just educating him on

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<v Speaker 3>myself and also about things that he do that I

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<v Speaker 3>want to question and stuff like that. So you know,

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<v Speaker 3>we would just have a conversation just that and the

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<v Speaker 3>third and I would just notice, like small stuff he

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<v Speaker 3>would do, like he would cut me off, or if

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<v Speaker 3>I don't like something that he say, he'll just try

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<v Speaker 3>to sidetrack me, like okay, but he looks so nice,

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<v Speaker 3>You're not going to talk to me, like why are

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<v Speaker 3>you acting like that?

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, he stop doing that, and he's like

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<v Speaker 2>stop doing what? Like stop making it.

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<v Speaker 3>Seem like I'm crazy, Like I don't know what I'm

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<v Speaker 3>talking about, Like yeah, absolutely.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, and then he'll drag it on and drag

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<v Speaker 2>it on, and.

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<v Speaker 3>That's when I exploded, and I said, you're starting to

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<v Speaker 3>act like my ex, like, don't ever make me feel

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<v Speaker 3>like I'm crazy and I don't know what I'm talking about.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm trying to educate you on how I am and

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<v Speaker 3>tell you about it, and then you're kind of dismissing

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<v Speaker 3>me because you don't want to face it or you

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<v Speaker 3>don't want to hear about it.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't want to hear about Yeah, you don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to hear about my ex. You don't want to hear

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<v Speaker 2>about my ex.

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<v Speaker 1>And you don't like want somebody tell you about yourself exactly,

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<v Speaker 1>and it has nothing to do with my ex at all.

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<v Speaker 1>But now, yeah, since you want to make it about

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<v Speaker 1>my ex, you acting just like him. Yeah, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>just how I felt about it.

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<v Speaker 2>So what did he do when you said that? Did

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<v Speaker 2>he stop talking to you? Or Oh, he was trying

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<v Speaker 2>to kiss my ass about it?

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<v Speaker 3>Because usually what I do when I'm feeling some type

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<v Speaker 3>of way, I back off. So he's literally just trying

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<v Speaker 3>to kiss my ass. Like, Okay, you know I didn't

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<v Speaker 3>mean it like that. Because I stopped talking to him

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<v Speaker 3>for maybe like a day, he started blowing me up,

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<v Speaker 3>calling both my phones and just acting crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>That's another thing in my exit. That's a red flag. Ladies.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't let niggas call you. You know what I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 2>Old ladies, if you got your phones, don't give them

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<v Speaker 2>both none. By the fuck.

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<v Speaker 1>How shit, I'm gonna be married and my nigma have

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<v Speaker 1>both my numbers.

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<v Speaker 2>Shit, Please do you better not call me on this one?

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<v Speaker 1>Shit because husband's be calling a lot, not that I've

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<v Speaker 1>ever known, because I don't have one shit. I think

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<v Speaker 1>the question is being changed. Do you even think that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm ready to date since I'm dealing with all this?

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<v Speaker 2>Or should I just finish healing?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, to answer the second question, You'll never finish healing

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<v Speaker 1>because life goes on, and you know it'll be new problems.

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<v Speaker 1>Unless you bury the old ones and get them ironed

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<v Speaker 1>out and put them under, you know, put them the rest,

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to be new ones, So don't. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think it's any such thing as a fully healed person,

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<v Speaker 1>because that would be a perfect person. You see what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying, Well, they don't exist. We need some type

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<v Speaker 1>of trial and tribulation. We need some type of obstacle

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<v Speaker 1>because that's what makes us stronger. Ultimately, that's what our

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<v Speaker 1>experiences in our different walks of life and our endurance

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<v Speaker 1>and what we can come up out of. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>why MY biggest attribute is resilience. How I can just

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<v Speaker 1>bounce back from anything. I don't think you're ready to

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<v Speaker 1>dig yet. To answer the first part of a question,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think you are, and I think you already

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<v Speaker 1>know that.

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<v Speaker 2>But the idea of.

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<v Speaker 1>Love and loving someone and having someone love you is

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<v Speaker 1>always beautiful and it always seems like it'll make sense,

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<v Speaker 1>and it seemed like that's what you want. But how

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<v Speaker 1>has your last relationship even changed you? Did you even

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<v Speaker 1>think about going through a whole phase? Did you say,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to date a couple of niggas, I want

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<v Speaker 1>to have a roster people.

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<v Speaker 2>I just talked to you.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to just be by myself until maybe we

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<v Speaker 1>can figure it out.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe we won't figure it out, or when we do.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I went and dated other people, so now

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<v Speaker 1>I know that he's for me, or like, how do

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<v Speaker 1>you feel in that aspect?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I did want to just, you know, just take

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<v Speaker 3>my mind off it, like have distractions and everything. But

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<v Speaker 3>sometimes I do get connected to it absolutely, and I

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<v Speaker 3>don't want to talk to nobody else. It's it's a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of work talking to a lot of people, having

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<v Speaker 3>a roster you didn't having two phones, that's a lot,

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<v Speaker 3>I know. So I was just talking to him and

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<v Speaker 3>then he started acting like that, and then it was

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<v Speaker 3>so easy for me to fall back because he's not

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<v Speaker 3>my ex right, I'm not used to him, and he's

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<v Speaker 3>starting to act like my ex. So it's like I'm

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<v Speaker 3>used to dealing with the bullshit with my ex, but

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<v Speaker 3>it's but getting it from another person in the same stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like, I don't have to deal with this for you. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I was just dealing with this with him, So it's

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<v Speaker 3>like on to the next.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, if you talk to somebody else and they end

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<v Speaker 1>up doing the same thing, it's going to be the

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<v Speaker 1>type of guys your track because you know what you

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<v Speaker 1>are like to help people, like to fix like brokenness

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<v Speaker 1>in some sort of way. So yeah, like you, it'll

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<v Speaker 1>be with your track more so because you have a

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<v Speaker 1>big ass, hard you keep getting these batter than scoring people. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>what about girls, y'all? Think about some girls?

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<v Speaker 3>Actually, no, I got a few honeys on my roster

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<v Speaker 3>right now, and you know what this is over, I

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<v Speaker 3>ain't doing this shit no with a few honeys.

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<v Speaker 2>After you sitting there and fucking just yeah, but you

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<v Speaker 2>know I'm not really gay? Oh so you so you fake? No? Listen?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh I'm confused.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you see why people stay anonymous? Then and be

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<v Speaker 1>like her fake gay ass?

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<v Speaker 2>You bring a fake gaze on a community, You bring

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<v Speaker 2>a fake gaze on the podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, where you can just bring a real gay up dad,

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<v Speaker 1>but you're scared of the real gaze. It's like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>you're at my show every weekend. I ain't scared of y'all.

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<v Speaker 1>I love y'all.

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<v Speaker 2>I love, love, love y'all. So listen.

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<v Speaker 1>That is the end of the episode. I ain't got

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<v Speaker 1>no advice for this damn girl, because I.

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<v Speaker 2>Like what you're doing. I love what she's doing.

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<v Speaker 1>She's dating. There's nothing wrong with that. She's fucking dating.

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<v Speaker 1>People think that dating is when you're with a person. No,

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<v Speaker 1>that's in a relationship. When you're dating, dating is just

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<v Speaker 1>seeing who you like, getting to know a person, and

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<v Speaker 1>you can be more than one person. You don't have

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<v Speaker 1>to be having sex with more than one person. If

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<v Speaker 1>you all whatever makes your book float. But I'm saying

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<v Speaker 1>everybody don't always have to date exclusively. Dating is you

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<v Speaker 1>seeing what works for you. You're seeing if this guy works

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<v Speaker 1>for you. If this don't work, you go on to

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<v Speaker 1>date next Friday with another dude that don't work, you

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<v Speaker 1>go on to date tried, you know, whatever you want

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<v Speaker 1>to do. People should be able to date, date, date

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<v Speaker 1>until they really find that one. And so I don't

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<v Speaker 1>have any advice for I think she's fixing the own mess.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, keep on telling these motherfuckers what you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to stand for, what's not appropriate, which you will not take.

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<v Speaker 1>Stand up for yourself because in your last relationship you

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<v Speaker 1>were taking for granted a lot. You know what I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know what you ain't about to take no more.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I'm not I took that from this guy.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not taking this from you. So You're starting to

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<v Speaker 1>remind me of my ex. And I'm out of here

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<v Speaker 1>on that because I could have just stayed with him

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<v Speaker 1>for this shit. I get it, and I love it.

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<v Speaker 1>You are straight up no chaser with a girl love that.

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<v Speaker 1>Now we come to the end of another carefully Breakfast

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<v Speaker 1>podcast episode with your girl Jess Hilarius, where she's fixing

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<v Speaker 1>mess day in and day out, and you can catch

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<v Speaker 1>this podcast each and every Wednesday on iHeart or wherever

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<v Speaker 1>else you listen to your podcast. Also, catch my new

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<v Speaker 1>docuseriies on YouTube. It's called The More You Don't Know

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<v Speaker 1>and More it spelled like my last name m O

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<v Speaker 1>O r E. Check it out each and every Monday

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<v Speaker 1>night at eight pm. We got new episodes dropping and

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<v Speaker 1>in my deepest Pam voice.

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<v Speaker 2>I see you next week.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>Can't.

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