1 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 1: And we welcome you. End episode thirty two of the 2 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:18,440 Speaker 1: Best podcast Available June the sixteen, two thousand and twenty 3 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 1: m Jason Gibbs alongside Andrew Rebble coming up on the 4 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:25,959 Speaker 1: program today, we continue our series our new get to 5 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:30,319 Speaker 1: Know between the front office between the coaches today tight 6 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 1: ends coach Drew pets Ng and Gribbs. It's he's a 7 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:39,560 Speaker 1: guy that we knew way back when, about seven years ago, 8 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 1: to be exact, he was in our building as an intern. 9 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:46,839 Speaker 1: Back today as the tight ends coach of one of 10 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 1: the more important positions for this football team in Yeah, 11 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 1: you know, and for for Drew and we talked about 12 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 1: it a little bit, but you know, he's he It 13 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 1: was interesting. I don't know if he ever imagined that 14 00:00:57,880 --> 00:01:00,080 Speaker 1: he would be back, uh and Maria, but he a 15 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 1: really good experience. Obviously, it started really bolted his his 16 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 1: NFL career and for Kevin Stefanski kind of a no brainer. 17 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 1: Higher for his offensive staff, you know, worked with them 18 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 1: closely in Minnesota for the last few years. And I 19 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:15,759 Speaker 1: think it's it's interesting for for Drew and as as 20 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 1: he grows as a coach, this will be his first 21 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 1: year coaching the tight end so it's it's it's certainly 22 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 1: was a nice gift for him to to get Austin 23 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 1: Hooper on that first day of free agency to help 24 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 1: out his first year. But he's learning coaching the position, 25 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 1: and he's been coaching long enough though where I think 26 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 1: he's going to jump right into it and and kind 27 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 1: of had a good quality room with with a bunch 28 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 1: of different options in there. Yeah, and it continued the 29 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:44,320 Speaker 1: Christmas for the tight end room continued throughout the draft 30 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 1: process as well. So that is a loaded room. As 31 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 1: we talked about last week in our position rankings. Let's 32 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 1: take a look at some of the other news and 33 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 1: notes from over the weekend and on a Monday as 34 00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 1: we roll into Tuesday and continue you on with the 35 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 1: Brown's virtual offseason. About a week and a half left 36 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 1: of that that's gonna wrap up next Friday, the twenty 37 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 1: six jadeveon Clowney, the Man that will not go away 38 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 1: in terms of news and things that keep popping up. 39 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:20,119 Speaker 1: Albert Breer in his column this morning, I should say, 40 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 1: Monday morning, on the on the Clowney sweepstakes, and he 41 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 1: basically says the situation continues to be complicated. Uh, He 42 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 1: thinks it's a note that the Browns are willing to 43 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 1: pay a good rate. I've heard they'd be okay going 44 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:39,079 Speaker 1: to the fifteen million dollar range on a one year 45 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:42,799 Speaker 1: deal to get him, and he remains unsigned, per Breer. 46 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 1: That tells me two things. One, the Clowney's financial desires 47 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 1: are still a barrier to getting the deal done, and 48 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 1: too that those desires may come on a sliding scale 49 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 1: based on destination. Now. Joel Corey, salary cap expert, was 50 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 1: on Brown's Daily Monday, and he said, regarding Clowney, if 51 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 1: you can't get the highest deal on a multi year contract, 52 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 1: your best option, your main option. The only option that 53 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 1: his camp should be looking at is how much money 54 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 1: can you make in a one year deal. Well, it 55 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 1: appears right now, Gribbs that the Browns, at least reportedly, 56 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 1: would be the front runners for that. But Clownie, I believe, 57 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:27,919 Speaker 1: thinks he's worth a lot more than maybe what everybody 58 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 1: else is prepared to offer at this point. Yeah, it's 59 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 1: a complicated decision because I think it's one thing to say, hey, 60 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 1: at this at this stage of the game, just take 61 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 1: the one year deal at the most money. But you know, 62 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 1: you play the game of football. You you know you're 63 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 1: one play away from never playing again. And I think 64 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 1: that that that can be a tricky decision because in 65 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 1: a bubble, it might seem easiest to to take a 66 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 1: one year deal, But there have been other guys that 67 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 1: have taken one of your deals and it hasn't paid off. 68 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 1: I mean, the good examples out there are guys like 69 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 1: al Shan Jeffrey who did that with the Eagles. I mean, 70 00:03:57,240 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 1: there's there's various others who have done these kind of 71 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 1: prove it contracts. But I understand the apprehension with that, 72 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 1: and I also understand the apprehension of seeing these multi 73 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 1: year deals and you're looking at it and being like, 74 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 1: I'm worth more than this. So I get the tricky 75 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 1: situation he's in. It's a unique offseason. I still don't 76 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 1: know if he's in much of a hurry, uh to 77 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:17,840 Speaker 1: get it done. I guess it's good to see that 78 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:20,360 Speaker 1: Cleveland is still in the mix, But as we've said 79 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 1: on this podcast before, it's I consider it gravy at 80 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 1: this point because I think you're going in with a 81 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 1: pretty good defensive line. You've got your end set up 82 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:29,599 Speaker 1: with Vernon and Garrett, but if you can find a 83 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 1: way to get Clowney in there, I think it makes 84 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:34,040 Speaker 1: you feel good. I compare it to the to the 85 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 1: Gerald McCoy situation of last year. I think that when 86 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:39,160 Speaker 1: it would have been gravy to get him in and 87 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 1: help out your defensive tackles. But I think you're ultimately 88 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:45,040 Speaker 1: fine with what you had outside of the injuries to 89 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:47,279 Speaker 1: the defensive end that just kind of decimated the rest 90 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 1: of your line. So this will be an interesting one 91 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 1: to follow. But the whole sliding scale notion, with different 92 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 1: places come with different prices. I mean, I think that 93 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 1: applies to the vast majority of the working force in 94 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 1: the world. I mean, I think that we all have 95 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 1: we all have different prices for you know, for for 96 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:06,479 Speaker 1: what you're willing to do it and where you're willing 97 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 1: to work. So that that part doesn't surprise me too much. No, no, 98 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:13,480 Speaker 1: not at all. And you mentioned the defensive end room 99 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 1: is a little stronger. That defensive tackle room with some 100 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 1: big offseason editions, maybe more so than people realize because 101 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:23,719 Speaker 1: they weren't the big day one day two splashes, But 102 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 1: that room really upgraded as well. That whole defensive line 103 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:32,719 Speaker 1: looking pretty solid, not just the ones, but the twos 104 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 1: and even into the threes pretty solid as we get 105 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:39,480 Speaker 1: ready for camp less than six weeks from now. Joel Corey, 106 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:43,159 Speaker 1: as I mentioned, was on Brown's Daily Monday. He also 107 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 1: came on to talk about Miles Garrett and Jeremy followed 108 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 1: from ESPN the week before late in the week with 109 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:53,040 Speaker 1: some news with the Browns and Garrett were reportedly talking. 110 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 1: Miles Garrett appearing to be headed for a really big 111 00:05:56,360 --> 00:06:01,480 Speaker 1: payday from CBS Sports. Joel Corey expecting Miles Garrett to 112 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 1: become the NFL's first twenty five million dollar per year 113 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:10,599 Speaker 1: non quarterback. His deal will be Joey Bosa's salary floor, 114 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 1: So something interesting to take a look at. A lot 115 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 1: of money is going to be thrown at Miles Garrett's way, 116 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 1: and it's going to impact how this football team looks 117 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:27,480 Speaker 1: in the next two or three years, because he's just 118 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 1: a tip of the iceberg of some of these guys 119 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 1: that they have to sign in and and get in 120 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 1: and you know, guys that are gonna be here hopefully 121 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 1: for a while. Yeah, I mean that two thousand and 122 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 1: eighteen draft classes just right around the corner as well. 123 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 1: I mean, you're Baker Mayfield and Denzel Ward both played 124 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:46,719 Speaker 1: premier positions that that fetch bake salary. So yeah, I 125 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 1: mean that's that there's incentive to get this done sooner 126 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:52,360 Speaker 1: rather than later. You could think even though you've got 127 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 1: him under contract for the next couple of years. And 128 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 1: I think, just like I mentioned with Clowney that the injury, 129 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 1: you know, think floating in that it would be easy 130 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:03,480 Speaker 1: for someone to say, why doesn't Miles wait till the 131 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:05,279 Speaker 1: end of this year after he has a huge year, 132 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 1: and for him to get a ben more. But yeah, 133 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 1: there's incentive to to lock it up and and and 134 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 1: have that security for years to come. So I think 135 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 1: that the team and the player have a great relationship, 136 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 1: and I think that hopefully this is something some good 137 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 1: news we can can report on very soon. But you know, 138 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 1: my I think we knew. I think we knew this 139 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 1: would be a big contract basically from the day he 140 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 1: was draffed and the day we saw him make the 141 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 1: impact he's made. I mean, it's a pass rusher. You're 142 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 1: entering a part of the NFL where these contracts are 143 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 1: getting bigger and bigger and bigger. Uh, you know, I 144 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 1: think that this was this was the day we expected 145 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 1: when you know, you finally hit on on one of 146 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 1: these top draft picks. This is what comes with keeping 147 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 1: them around. It's not cheap, No, no, not at all. 148 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 1: And you're I mean million, um, the gentleman whose name 149 00:07:56,520 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 1: escapes me from Chicago right now, Khalil macke half million 150 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 1: right now is the standard bearer. That's more than Aaron 151 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 1: Donald's making. Uh, this one expected to be around twenty 152 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 1: five million a year. That's like, it's like the quarterback position. 153 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 1: Whoever is the highest paid quarterback is the one that 154 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 1: signed the most recent deal. I mean, that's just that's 155 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 1: just the way it is. I mean, so it might 156 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 1: it might briefly offend Kleil mc that he's making less 157 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:23,559 Speaker 1: than than Myles Garrett for like a couple of minutes, 158 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 1: but that's just that's just the way it is. And 159 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 1: it's it's all about the timing of when you sign 160 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 1: your deal. That's the latest. As it pertains to the 161 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:36,079 Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns again, the virtual offseason continues, the Browns becoming 162 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 1: one of the few teams that are gonna see this 163 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 1: through all the way to the end. It appears, and 164 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:43,959 Speaker 1: that's not necessarily a bad thing. As we get closer 165 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 1: to training camp. Maybe we'll talk about that coming up 166 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:51,679 Speaker 1: in just a few minutes from now. Time now for 167 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:54,560 Speaker 1: our interview and our get to know segment on this 168 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:58,199 Speaker 1: episode of the best podcast available. He was the Browns 169 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:01,719 Speaker 1: football ops intern in two thou in thirteen, spent the 170 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:04,839 Speaker 1: last six years with the Vikings fourteen to eighteen. Is 171 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:08,200 Speaker 1: the Vikings assistant wide receiver and quarterback coach, and then 172 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:11,840 Speaker 1: last season as the Vikings wide receiver coach. Pretty talented 173 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 1: room that he had to manage, and he did quite 174 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 1: a decent job of it. As the Vikings get to 175 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 1: the second round of the playoffs, Drew Pettsing back here 176 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 1: in Cleveland as a member of the Browns, Andrew Gribble 177 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 1: had a chance to sit down with Mr Pettsing, have 178 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 1: a watch and have a listen. All right, We're joined 179 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:34,199 Speaker 1: here and now by tight ends coach Drew Pettsing and 180 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:36,440 Speaker 1: Drew I see here at the home office. I'm just 181 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:38,320 Speaker 1: wondering how things have been going for you during uh 182 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 1: these kind of crazy times for the last few months. Yeah, 183 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 1: it's been great. Uh to really a pretatyate you had 184 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 1: me on, it's been you know, you may do with 185 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 1: what you have, uh, pretty set up together over the 186 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:50,960 Speaker 1: last couple of months to work at home and making 187 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 1: the most of it. So it's been really good. So 188 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 1: when you guys went left the office for the last time, 189 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 1: I mean, what were some of the things that you 190 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:00,320 Speaker 1: kind of thought about going into how you might handle 191 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 1: this virtual offseason and how much has been kind of 192 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 1: a gradual process of kind of adapting to it to 193 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 1: your circumstances. Yeah, I think there was a lot of both. 194 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:10,440 Speaker 1: I mean, you definitely kind of heard rumors that this 195 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 1: could happen, you didn't really know how long. So there 196 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 1: were definitely some things you wish you took at the 197 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:17,440 Speaker 1: onset in terms of tape, in terms of a setup 198 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 1: and things like that. But I think you definitely wanted 199 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:22,440 Speaker 1: to be prepared so you had the basic essentials from 200 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 1: a technology standpoint. Uh. The hard part was figuring out 201 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 1: the lighting. You know, into new house without blinds that 202 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:30,559 Speaker 1: contend to be an issue. So the first time you 203 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:32,559 Speaker 1: go on zoom and nobody can see your face, it's 204 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:35,200 Speaker 1: like one of those commercials where you're in witness protection, 205 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 1: you know, things like that that I don't think I 206 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:39,720 Speaker 1: was quite ready for. Uh. And then there's always stuff, 207 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 1: you know, the video guys. Our support staff has just 208 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 1: done an amazing job of kind of getting us up 209 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:46,200 Speaker 1: to speed and making sure that we had everything we 210 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 1: needed through the course of these last couple of months. Now, 211 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 1: would you have considered yourself a tech savvy guy before 212 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:53,960 Speaker 1: this and are you now feeling like you're you're way 213 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:56,080 Speaker 1: more of a of a tech tech kind of guy 214 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 1: with this stuff. I would say, as a younger coach, 215 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 1: I'd like to consider myself a little tech savvy. But 216 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 1: I've learned things, uh a lot through this process from players, 217 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 1: from other coaches, uh, on our staff around the league. 218 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:10,560 Speaker 1: I think it's also been really impressive to see some 219 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:12,560 Speaker 1: coaches that I would say are not as comfortable with 220 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:16,320 Speaker 1: technology who have really done a really impressive job in 221 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 1: terms of adapting it, learning it, and making the most 222 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:21,440 Speaker 1: of them. And just it seems like when we talked 223 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 1: to coaches and general managers everyone that they've been impressed 224 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 1: by the way players have really bought into this kind 225 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 1: of way of doing things. I mean, what have you 226 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 1: seen from your from your guys? Yeah, you know, I 227 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 1: think part of them like it, uh, they like being 228 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 1: at home, They like you know, stay a lot of 229 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 1: them have good access to a gym and allows them 230 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 1: to really focus on their bodies and they can still 231 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 1: get some of the football aspect of it. So I 232 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:45,320 Speaker 1: think I've been really impressed with kind of the level 233 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 1: of focus. You know, anytime you're on a zoom call, 234 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 1: it's a little bit harder to hold people's attention because 235 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 1: you're not sitting there with in the meetings with them. 236 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:54,679 Speaker 1: They're also not watching tape of themselves. Right. One of 237 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:56,840 Speaker 1: the best parts about the off season is people love 238 00:11:56,880 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 1: to watch themselves do things. So when we can go 239 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:01,559 Speaker 1: back and watch practice State, you know you have their engagement, 240 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:04,560 Speaker 1: which was definitely a fear when you're watching the game 241 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:06,440 Speaker 1: tap you're trying to pull clips from around the league 242 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 1: or find examples of certain things. Um, but the guys 243 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 1: have been great. They've been really engaged. Uh, They've been 244 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:14,839 Speaker 1: committed to learn the offense and really committing to the 245 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 1: techniques that we've been teaching. So it's it's been fun 246 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 1: and it's we've got a lot out of it. And 247 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 1: I think a week after you guys left the office, 248 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 1: you get the good news that you're you got Austin 249 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 1: Hooper added added to your room. I mean, what what 250 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:27,680 Speaker 1: was that like? And then what have you what have 251 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 1: you learned about about your new tight end and what 252 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 1: he brings to the table. Yeah, that was really exciting. 253 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:34,239 Speaker 1: And anytime you can add a player of that caliber, 254 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:35,959 Speaker 1: you know, it's a great opportunity for me as a 255 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:38,200 Speaker 1: coach and us as a team. And I think the 256 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:40,200 Speaker 1: big thing that that made it even more exciting is 257 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 1: you you talk to people that have been around him 258 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 1: or had the chance to coach him, and just his 259 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 1: love of the game. Uh, the way that he approaches 260 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:48,960 Speaker 1: his job takes the game very seriously. So as a coach, 261 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 1: not not only are you getting a great player, but 262 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:52,560 Speaker 1: you're getting a leader and someone that's gonna come in 263 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 1: the room and do things the way you want, which 264 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 1: has been great And he's been everything and more in 265 00:12:57,720 --> 00:13:00,560 Speaker 1: this offseason in terms of the way he shows up meetings, 266 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 1: taking notes, asking questions, UM, being a mentor to some 267 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 1: guys who haven't been in the league as long. In 268 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 1: terms of how to do things, how you conceptualize things. Um, 269 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:11,719 Speaker 1: he's been it's been really impressive and a lot of 270 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 1: fun to work with and just it seems like of 271 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 1: any position on the field, tight end is one where 272 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 1: guys get better and better near this stage of their career. 273 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 1: What what's it like getting someone like him who may 274 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 1: not even be he might be entering his prime just 275 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 1: now now in his fifth season here. Yeah, there's no doubt. 276 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 1: I mean, I think the tight end position at the 277 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 1: NFL level is a little bit unique. You're you're heavily 278 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:35,840 Speaker 1: involved in the run in the past game. Uh, you know, 279 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:37,960 Speaker 1: things are a lot more multiple than they may have 280 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 1: been in college in terms of what you're looking at. 281 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:42,440 Speaker 1: So I think there is a lot of um growth 282 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 1: that happens as you get the experience of playing in 283 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 1: the league. So to to to get somebody that's had 284 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 1: as many snaps as he had over the first couple 285 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 1: of years of his career, I mean, you saw that 286 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 1: growth even in Atlanta, and you know it's going to 287 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 1: continue here. So it's uh, it's a great opportunity for 288 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:59,080 Speaker 1: him and for him and we know with this offense, 289 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 1: you need more than one of these guys out there 290 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:03,680 Speaker 1: at a lot of times. But it seems like David 291 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:05,439 Speaker 1: n joke Wu has had a very good offseason and 292 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 1: parall Brown guys guys that fill out your room, I 293 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 1: mean have they really bought into the notion that this 294 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:14,440 Speaker 1: is an offense that really features their position in a 295 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 1: lot of different ways. Yeah. I think you could see 296 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 1: that excitement pretty early on in terms of just you know, 297 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 1: I haven't never been around these guys, and I imagine 298 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:23,840 Speaker 1: they approached it like this every year, but it's it's 299 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 1: been great for me to see it this year and knowing, 300 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 1: you know, hey, this is an opportunity for a lot 301 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 1: of guys to come in and contribute, and the number 302 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 1: one priority and able to do that is knowing what 303 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 1: your role is, how to carry it out to the 304 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 1: best of your ability. And I think to see all 305 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 1: of those guys embrace that has made it easy for 306 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 1: me as a coach and definitely exciting for us as 307 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 1: an offerse. What do you like about David's game and 308 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 1: what you've seen on tape and how he can bounce 309 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 1: back from from last season. Yeah, I think the big 310 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 1: thing that stands out you second you turn it on 311 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 1: is just the way he can run. I mean he 312 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 1: is he is a legit mismatch in the passing game. 313 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 1: He can create a lot of separation, he can go 314 00:14:56,840 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 1: up and get the ball um. But I think the 315 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 1: other thing that that usked me a little bit is 316 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 1: I think he's a better run block up than people 317 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 1: give him credit for. He is not shy in the 318 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 1: run game. He is not afraid to stick his nose 319 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 1: in there. I think he can be a really great 320 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 1: asset in the play action game, in the keeper game, 321 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 1: and all the things that we like to do in 322 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 1: this offense to keep people off bounds. And with I 323 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 1: imagine with him, he's been learning this as he's been 324 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 1: going through the league. I mean, how long does it 325 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 1: take for a guy to really take on that kind 326 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 1: of blocking responsibility when previous through their career they're probably 327 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 1: just been running out and catching passes things like that. Yeah, 328 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 1: I think it's a combination of willingness. I mean there's 329 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 1: there's some of that which you definitely see with him, 330 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 1: and it's kind of talked back to the experienced thing 331 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 1: that you just talked about. All Right, you know, you're 332 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 1: not used to blocking a two pound defensive ends, So 333 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 1: every time you're asked to do it, I think a 334 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 1: good player who takes his job seriously learns a little 335 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 1: bit more about what was effective, what worked well, what didn't, 336 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 1: how to go at it the next time. You do it. 337 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 1: So I think that just the reps of doing it 338 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 1: and being asked to do it and really committing to 339 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 1: that part of the job allows these players to continue 340 00:15:57,120 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 1: to see that improvement over the early course of their 341 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 1: career years. From your perspective, what's been the biggest difference 342 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 1: in installing an offense virtually? And is there any kind 343 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 1: of advantage to being in this situation installing it? And 344 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 1: I don't know about a major advantage. You know, it's 345 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 1: I think the biggest thing, and this is I'm sure 346 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 1: I know I feel this way. I would think you 347 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 1: give this way. The easiest way to learn something is 348 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 1: to do it. And I think the hardest part about 349 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 1: the virtual off season is that we we can't do 350 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 1: it right. And one of the things as coaches that 351 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 1: we always struggle with is you spend a lot of 352 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 1: your time coaching off of people's mistakes, and you always 353 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 1: tell guys, hey, making a mistake is fine, Repeating the 354 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 1: mistake is the problem. And we're not making any mistakes 355 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 1: right now, right And we're not out there missing a blog, 356 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 1: going to the wrong guy, running the wrong route, And 357 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 1: so not only is the person who made that mistake 358 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 1: not learning from it, but other guys watching the tape, 359 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 1: being in the meeting rooms, it's hard to recreate that. 360 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 1: So one of the things you try to do is 361 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 1: you point out common mistakes that happen on game tape 362 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 1: from other people around the league, from other teams that 363 00:16:57,160 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 1: we've been on, and you try to show them examples 364 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 1: of Hey, these are things that can go wrong, here's 365 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 1: why they need to be corrected. But until you really 366 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 1: physically go through that action, I think some of that 367 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:08,919 Speaker 1: can can be hard to conceptualize. And that's definitely been 368 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 1: a hard part of it. Um, you know, fro mean, 369 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 1: then you know, I guess some of the things that 370 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 1: have been easy. I mean, guys are very tied to 371 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 1: their phones in their iPads, so if I you know, 372 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:20,400 Speaker 1: if if they need us or we need them, they're 373 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 1: they're they're there, We know that they're and they know 374 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 1: we're here. Um, So there's definitely that, But I think 375 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 1: it's been a lot more how to overcome some of 376 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:29,919 Speaker 1: the challenges than it is this is easier. Yeah, And 377 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 1: then how how is a guy like Harrison fit in 378 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 1: with the group and trying to get to know these 379 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 1: guys in this kind of virtual setting. Yeah, that that 380 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:40,160 Speaker 1: probably is one of the things that you still are 381 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:42,200 Speaker 1: able to do a little bit is just get everybody 382 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 1: in a room together on zoom and get a feel 383 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:46,160 Speaker 1: for who they are and let them talk to each 384 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:48,679 Speaker 1: other and let them develop those relationships, because that's a 385 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:51,120 Speaker 1: huge part of being part of a team. And Uh, 386 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 1: Harrison's I mean, he's a great kitty. He's been a 387 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:56,360 Speaker 1: leader's whole life. He's someone who works extremely hard. Uh 388 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:57,959 Speaker 1: And as a young guy, you you kind of come 389 00:17:58,000 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 1: in and I think he's feeling out the room, right, 390 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 1: He's trying to see he's trying to meet the other 391 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 1: guys and get a feel for him, which you can do, 392 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 1: maybe not to the same extent as if you were 393 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 1: in the building, but it's a really good group and 394 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:10,200 Speaker 1: I think they've gone along really well so far. Infice, 395 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 1: now we saw him building the Browns. He has that 396 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:15,680 Speaker 1: unique way of looking learning the playbook with poker chips. 397 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:17,680 Speaker 1: Is that something that you've ever seen before? Is that 398 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 1: that's something new he kind of showed you guys, I 399 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 1: am not I mean how you hear guys talk about 400 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:24,720 Speaker 1: because I I think he learned it from someone he 401 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:27,879 Speaker 1: was working out with, maybe Jordan Palmer pre Combine, I 402 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:30,400 Speaker 1: think had kind of given them that. Um so it's 403 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 1: something that guys have done. I think everybody kind of 404 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:34,399 Speaker 1: has their own way of going about it. I know 405 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 1: guys that get the white board and like to draw 406 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 1: it out. I've seen guys that literally stand up in 407 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:41,960 Speaker 1: their room and uh, you know, they'll move around and 408 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 1: call out plays. I'll never forget it was my would 409 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:47,680 Speaker 1: have been my second year, I think in Minnesota made 410 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 1: my first. We got Teddy Bridgewater and he used to 411 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 1: record himself calling plays into a microphone and then play 412 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:55,959 Speaker 1: it back. I think guys, especially a guy like Harrison, 413 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:58,439 Speaker 1: who takes his job so seriously, they find ways to 414 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:00,639 Speaker 1: make sure that they can learn the material regardless of 415 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 1: the situation. And then for you, this is obviously, this 416 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:05,720 Speaker 1: would be a time yere where you're getting to know 417 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:07,440 Speaker 1: your other coaches. I mean, you knew some of these 418 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 1: guys obviously with Kevin in the background. But what have 419 00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:12,400 Speaker 1: you guys done to kind of expedite that process of 420 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 1: getting to know each other and working with each other. Yeah, 421 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 1: and a lot of it is seeing people on zoom, 422 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 1: you know. I think one of the things that I've 423 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:20,159 Speaker 1: I've started to trying to do is you're faced on 424 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:22,880 Speaker 1: a lot more instead of call. Uh So normally when 425 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 1: it would be a phone call to ask your question, 426 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 1: it's a FaceTime. So you're looking at the guy, You're 427 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 1: getting a feel he's getting a feel for you. I 428 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:30,480 Speaker 1: think that's been kind of some of the things that 429 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:33,119 Speaker 1: we've tried to do to create those connections and and 430 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 1: create those relationships and understanding even though we can't be together. 431 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:37,879 Speaker 1: And then for a guy that you know well and 432 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 1: Kevin Stefanski, this is his first year as a head coach, 433 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 1: A lot has been thrown at him. But how how 434 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:45,480 Speaker 1: have you seen him kind of handle all this and 435 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:48,159 Speaker 1: kind of keep everything organized here? So you're saying he 436 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:50,639 Speaker 1: didn't plan all this when he got to know it's 437 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 1: it's been a unique, unique yere for for to be 438 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 1: a first year at coach. Yeah, No, he's been great. 439 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 1: I think that's one of the things that always impressed 440 00:19:57,119 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 1: me even in Minnesota is no matter what happened in game, 441 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 1: out of game, during the week, in the off season, 442 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 1: good and bad, he's the same guy. And I think 443 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:07,399 Speaker 1: this situation has been no difference. Hey, here the facts, 444 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 1: here's how we're gonna operate. This is what we feel 445 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:10,680 Speaker 1: like as best for the team, and that's what we're 446 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:13,920 Speaker 1: gonna do. Um So he's been great there and then hey, 447 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:16,119 Speaker 1: if you needed him for supporter, you had a question 448 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 1: or a concern, He's always been very willing to help 449 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 1: and answer those type of things for coaches, for players. 450 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 1: And I think that's shown through throughout this offseason in 451 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:27,400 Speaker 1: terms everything that's happened, and it's really been refreshing and 452 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 1: it's been helpful for me as we go through this process. Now, 453 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:33,240 Speaker 1: when you look ahead to training camp and what you 454 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:35,239 Speaker 1: think it might be or may not be, do you 455 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:37,399 Speaker 1: do you handle training camp the same way from your 456 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 1: perspective or how do you how do you adjust how 457 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 1: you coach these guys one on one out there? Yeah, 458 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 1: I think a lot of that's gonna be dictated based 459 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:47,159 Speaker 1: on exactly what training camp does or doesn't look like. 460 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:49,720 Speaker 1: You know, it's hard to make any decision or any 461 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 1: kind of probamation until til we know, you know. I 462 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:55,119 Speaker 1: think that's been part of the entire process, is waiting 463 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:57,399 Speaker 1: for all Right, Hey, here's what we got, here's what 464 00:20:57,400 --> 00:20:59,240 Speaker 1: we're allowed to do. Let's make the most of it. 465 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:02,359 Speaker 1: I think training it's gonna be no different. Um. You know, 466 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:03,679 Speaker 1: I think you need to go into it with the 467 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:06,720 Speaker 1: reality that these guys didn't have the offseason reps they 468 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 1: normally would have from a mental standpoint, um, And we're 469 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:12,240 Speaker 1: gonna take that into consideration, and we know what the 470 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 1: end goal is and we're gonna work back from there 471 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:16,880 Speaker 1: to make sure we can accomplish. Now, have you ever 472 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 1: looked more forward to a training camp? I mean, just 473 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:22,399 Speaker 1: based on how how far away you've been from football now, No, 474 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:24,959 Speaker 1: there's no doubt, you know, if you don't miss football 475 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:26,719 Speaker 1: at this point as a coach, as a player, as 476 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 1: a fan. You know, I'm not sure you liked it 477 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 1: to begin with. And we've asked this pretty much everyone 478 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 1: that's been on I mean, what's the Are there any 479 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:36,679 Speaker 1: like little things that you now appreciate that you didn't before, 480 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:39,160 Speaker 1: or what is kind of coming to to focus now 481 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 1: now that it's been about three months now, that's a 482 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 1: good question. I think the biggest thing and one of 483 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 1: the most enjoyable things about the job is what is 484 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:49,680 Speaker 1: those relationships and the personal connection you get not only 485 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:51,399 Speaker 1: with the coaches but with the players of being in 486 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 1: the room. Some of the downtime before practice, after practice, 487 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:58,399 Speaker 1: between periods when guys are just hanging out and talking 488 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 1: and getting to know each other. You you don't have 489 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:03,200 Speaker 1: those moments, kind of the unscripted time that you get 490 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:05,240 Speaker 1: to spend with a lot of these guys that you 491 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:07,960 Speaker 1: work with. And uh, I think that's definitely something I've 492 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 1: missed over the last couple of months. Well, Drew, how's 493 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:13,640 Speaker 1: the homecoming n I mean, and that just the fact 494 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:15,399 Speaker 1: that you started your your career as an interim And 495 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:17,360 Speaker 1: what's it been like being back in the area and 496 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:19,920 Speaker 1: experiencing kind of in a different way than that maybe 497 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:22,640 Speaker 1: you expected these first few months. Yeah, it's it's been 498 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:24,440 Speaker 1: great coming back people. A lot of people have asked 499 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:25,480 Speaker 1: me that it was a nice to be back, and 500 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 1: I said, I feel like when I was here the 501 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 1: first time as an intern, your budgets a little different, 502 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 1: so I wouldn't say I was out like living the 503 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:35,160 Speaker 1: dream in Cleveland, spending a lot of money. Um, so having, 504 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:36,600 Speaker 1: you know, being able to be in a house and 505 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:39,240 Speaker 1: being a community and feeling comfortable going out the restaurants 506 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 1: and doing a little bit more when I can, which 507 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:43,440 Speaker 1: I haven't been able to do yet, will be nice. Um, 508 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:45,360 Speaker 1: but but it's a great city and I knew when 509 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 1: I left the first time this is a very passionate 510 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:49,960 Speaker 1: fan base and a great organization to be a part of. 511 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:51,439 Speaker 1: So anytime you can get a chance to be a 512 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 1: part of something like that, uh, me and my family 513 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:56,200 Speaker 1: were really excited. And you know, whenever we're allowed out 514 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 1: of the house and and able to experience the city 515 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:00,920 Speaker 1: a little bit more, we're definitely looking forward to that. Drew, 516 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 1: I appreciate you joining us for a little bit here 517 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 1: and and thank you again and hopefully be we'll see 518 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:07,879 Speaker 1: in the building soon here. Awesome, thanks for having Thanks 519 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:12,119 Speaker 1: to Drew Pettson for his time. A guy that comes 520 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:16,160 Speaker 1: across as knowing the game of football very well. Gribbs, 521 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 1: very impressive young man who's done a lot in just 522 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 1: a very short period of time. Yeah, A very like eager, 523 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:28,240 Speaker 1: bright coach and I think someone that Stefanski identified early 524 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 1: on in his time with the Vikings as kind of 525 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:33,440 Speaker 1: a coach you want to mentor and bring up and 526 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:36,480 Speaker 1: and kind of see them kind of grow their career 527 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 1: the way that others helped Kevin Stefanski grow his career. 528 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:41,639 Speaker 1: And I thought the most interesting thing that he talked 529 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:44,159 Speaker 1: about what was I think he was frank about the 530 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 1: challenges of this virtual coaching, where it's I think we've 531 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 1: all we've heard all the good stories, but I think 532 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:51,120 Speaker 1: the challenges to come with it was he said that 533 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:54,119 Speaker 1: you know that you can't The biggest way you teach 534 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 1: on a through coaching is when guys make mistakes on 535 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 1: the field and then you're like, hey, don't do that again, 536 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,639 Speaker 1: and and then they don't do it again. So he 537 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 1: him talking about how they've had to basically show clips 538 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:08,679 Speaker 1: of other people making mistakes. I mean, that's you have. 539 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:10,480 Speaker 1: You have to get creative right now. And I think 540 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 1: it'll be interesting to see what these guys look like 541 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:15,400 Speaker 1: when they get on the field. But you know, he 542 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:18,120 Speaker 1: like he said, he's he's playing it by day by day. 543 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 1: I mean, they find out what the rules are and 544 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 1: they're gonna have to adapt. I mean there's nothing you 545 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 1: can You can plan a lot of different ways, but 546 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:26,159 Speaker 1: ultimately you're you're going day by day with what the 547 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:27,920 Speaker 1: league's telling you you're gonna be allowed to do. Once 548 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:30,639 Speaker 1: these guys get back for camp. Well and we're not 549 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 1: even to camp yet and already some news coming out 550 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:38,920 Speaker 1: from around the NFL late in the day on Monday, 551 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:42,359 Speaker 1: actually started at midday and worked its way through the day. 552 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 1: On Monday, first NFL Network scene in rap report reporting 553 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:51,399 Speaker 1: several Cowboys and Texans players have tested positive for COVID 554 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 1: nineteen recently. None of the players are believed to have 555 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:59,120 Speaker 1: been in the team facilities. Teams followed followed proper health protocols. 556 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:01,679 Speaker 1: We're gonna see you pop up. A lot of the 557 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:04,480 Speaker 1: health experts for the league have said all thirty two 558 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:07,119 Speaker 1: teams are gonna have someone at some point that that 559 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:10,400 Speaker 1: comes down with this, and how they deal with it 560 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:15,440 Speaker 1: will kind of show how successful a season can be 561 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 1: in the National Football and if we can make it 562 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:22,480 Speaker 1: through the entire NFL season. But already seen cases as 563 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:26,400 Speaker 1: it pertains to players. We've seen someone Denver, We've seen 564 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:31,480 Speaker 1: a few others, but uh, several Cowboys, several Texans recently, 565 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 1: little cause for concerned grips. I'm not so sure. I 566 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 1: think this was part of the reality, and I think 567 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:40,200 Speaker 1: it's just it's it's an adjustment that we have to 568 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 1: get used to. I mean, the the more we hear 569 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:45,200 Speaker 1: of this, the less shocking is going to be. So 570 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:48,239 Speaker 1: the early stories are gonna jar you and surprise you. 571 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 1: And but I think you know you saw last week 572 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:53,199 Speaker 1: when colleges were going back, it was like three or 573 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:55,360 Speaker 1: four guys on every team. I mean, I think that 574 00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 1: all these guys are young, so that the likelihood of 575 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:01,240 Speaker 1: some of them being a symptomatic is probably higher, and 576 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 1: it's not really affecting them as much as it would older, 577 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:06,720 Speaker 1: older folks. But you know, this is just gonna happen. 578 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:09,120 Speaker 1: I think the key is going to be identifying these 579 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:13,200 Speaker 1: guys and isolating and preventing an outbreak from happening. And 580 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 1: I think it doesn't surprise when the first two teams 581 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,680 Speaker 1: you're hearing about our our Dallas and Houston and Texas 582 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 1: has been surging a bit in cases. So I mean, 583 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:24,399 Speaker 1: I'm not saying all those guys are in Texas, but uh, 584 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:26,160 Speaker 1: the guys that are in Texas might be at higher 585 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:28,719 Speaker 1: risk right now. So I think it's all it's all 586 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:31,360 Speaker 1: gonna be about just getting these guys identified early, making 587 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:33,680 Speaker 1: sure they don't work out with each other when there's 588 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 1: a pending test or things like that, so that the 589 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:40,720 Speaker 1: fact that these guys have cases now it shouldn't be jarring. 590 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:43,400 Speaker 1: It's just gonna be about the in season management once 591 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:46,480 Speaker 1: they do get in the building. Yeah, exactly what do 592 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:49,439 Speaker 1: you make And I meant I did not put this 593 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 1: in the rundown, But Bruce arians comments last week about 594 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 1: contemplating having a quarterback practice away from the facility be 595 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:03,440 Speaker 1: part of all the meetings via zoom or whatever. Microsoft 596 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:07,360 Speaker 1: teams however they they do it down in Tampa. But 597 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:10,399 Speaker 1: what did you make of his comments about putting a 598 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:13,600 Speaker 1: quarterback away from the team and the facility in case 599 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 1: the quarterback room, God forbid, came down with it. Yeah, 600 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:20,679 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm open for anything at this point. I 601 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 1: think you have to embrace outside the box thinking. And 602 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:26,679 Speaker 1: I think what we we expanded rosters by two this offseason. 603 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:29,160 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not ruling out anything when it comes 604 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 1: to roster expansion for this season because I just think 605 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:33,439 Speaker 1: you might have to. I mean, we've seen it with 606 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:37,080 Speaker 1: the NBA going into this bubble situation, they're expanding their 607 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:40,640 Speaker 1: rosters a bit. I just think you can't operate uh 608 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:43,919 Speaker 1: in in convention in any possible way. So it wouldn't 609 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:46,960 Speaker 1: surprise me if you see some bold expansion of rosters. 610 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:49,320 Speaker 1: I just think it might have to happen. I mean, 611 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:51,359 Speaker 1: I think these decisions are going to be made along 612 00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 1: the way and made in ways that they weren't made 613 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:55,399 Speaker 1: in the past, where you have to go through all 614 00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 1: these protocols to get things done. We've seen this at 615 00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:00,320 Speaker 1: like the state and local level. For all the sudden, 616 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:02,439 Speaker 1: these laws are just getting passed in like a second 617 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 1: that that took. It used to take years or months. 618 00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:07,800 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, desperate times called for desper measures, 619 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:10,919 Speaker 1: and so you act quicker, uh, to make sure to 620 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 1: preserve what you have. And so again I'm open for anything. 621 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:17,159 Speaker 1: I think that, and I think the NFL should be, 622 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:18,800 Speaker 1: and I think the team should be. And if you're 623 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:20,879 Speaker 1: not thinking outside the box, you could you could really 624 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 1: run into some trouble if you're if you're trying to 625 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:24,960 Speaker 1: operate with the way that things used to be. Yeah. 626 00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:28,239 Speaker 1: From Tom Pella Sero the NFL Network, there was a 627 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:31,879 Speaker 1: call late in the day Monday with agents and the 628 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:35,240 Speaker 1: nfl p A. Nfl p A medical director Tom Mayor 629 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:38,280 Speaker 1: said the current plan is to test players for COVID 630 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:42,920 Speaker 1: nineteen three times a week, isolating those who test positive. 631 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:47,880 Speaker 1: Per Mayor, there's a ninety chance reliable saliva testing is 632 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 1: available before players return to facilities. Players upon return should 633 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 1: be expected to be tested every three days. I'm here 634 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:58,960 Speaker 1: and three times here in three days, uh my. Or 635 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 1: to the agents, you can't fit the virus into football. 636 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,760 Speaker 1: You have to fit football into the virus. This is 637 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:10,800 Speaker 1: a quote badass virus. So I think everything's on the table. 638 00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:14,680 Speaker 1: And you know, for those of us in around the 639 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 1: league that work for teams and you know, our game 640 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 1: plan is just have training camp coming up at the 641 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 1: end of July. But the NFL p A and the 642 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:25,080 Speaker 1: NFL still have to work out a lot of things 643 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:29,400 Speaker 1: before the players Association agrees to start training camp. And 644 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:33,280 Speaker 1: uh for those people that think they're close, I don't 645 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:36,720 Speaker 1: know how close they are yet. I do think there's 646 00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 1: a lot to work out because I think with this virus, 647 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 1: we're still figuring out stuff every day. What what we 648 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:44,960 Speaker 1: need to do protocol wise. I mean, just think a 649 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 1: few a few months ago, we weren't talking about masks, 650 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 1: and now of a sudden, these guys can bet in 651 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:51,960 Speaker 1: masks everywhere. So I think I do think that there 652 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 1: is a lot to work out, a lot of teams 653 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:55,560 Speaker 1: to cross, a lot of eyes to dot the thing 654 00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:59,400 Speaker 1: working to the NFL's benefit. When you compare it to say, 655 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:02,800 Speaker 1: Major League Baseball is I think that everyone is united, 656 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:06,320 Speaker 1: I think around this common goal of having this season happened, 657 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:09,960 Speaker 1: and I think that they there's the understanding that hey, 658 00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:12,840 Speaker 1: let's all, let's make some concessions here, let's make some 659 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:15,840 Speaker 1: agreements here. I'm confident they'll get this worked out because 660 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,680 Speaker 1: I think everyone involved wants this thing to happen and 661 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:22,120 Speaker 1: wants this this season to happen, uh, in a full 662 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:26,920 Speaker 1: capacity as as much as possible. So I think the 663 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:29,440 Speaker 1: fact that you have the sides kind of with that 664 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:34,440 Speaker 1: base understanding, I think that helps these negotiations maybe move 665 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:36,480 Speaker 1: a little swifter than they might be doing it in 666 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:42,360 Speaker 1: other sports. Right now. Yeah, despite what may or may 667 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:44,640 Speaker 1: not happen as a pertainer to the NFL, there's still 668 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 1: ahead of what MLB is doing. Yeah, I mean, and 669 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 1: then it's the advantage of a couple of things. I mean, 670 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:52,920 Speaker 1: you've had months of build up to get to this point. Uh. 671 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:55,040 Speaker 1: And then I think that you don't it helped that 672 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:57,840 Speaker 1: you passed that c b A before leading up into this, 673 00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:01,120 Speaker 1: And I just don't think you don't have the history 674 00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:04,480 Speaker 1: of acrimony that that baseball has between the owners and players, 675 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:07,680 Speaker 1: and I just think that there's just a lot coming 676 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,240 Speaker 1: ahead in baseball that football currently does not have to 677 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:13,360 Speaker 1: deal with. Yeah, no question, a lot to get to. 678 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:17,800 Speaker 1: Still a lot of answers still needed. I'm about training camp. 679 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,360 Speaker 1: We don't know about the preseason. We don't know about 680 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:24,040 Speaker 1: the regular season yet. It is the middle of June 681 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:27,320 Speaker 1: that we do know, and time is starting to fly 682 00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:31,560 Speaker 1: as we get closer to the NFL season. We are 683 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:34,680 Speaker 1: back with you on Thursday, thanks to Anthony Bako for 684 00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:37,520 Speaker 1: his time and all of his hard work behind the scenes. 685 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:41,280 Speaker 1: Thanks to Tight Ends coach Drew pet Singh. Make sure 686 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:43,480 Speaker 1: you log on Cleveland Browns dot com or wherever you 687 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:46,960 Speaker 1: get your podcasts, like and subscribe today to the best 688 00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:50,560 Speaker 1: podcast available. 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