00:00:08 Speaker 1: But I invited you here, thought I made myself perfectly clear. 00:00:17 Speaker 2: But you're a guess to my home. 00:00:21 Speaker 1: You gotta come to me empty. And I said, no, guess your own presences, presence enough that I already had too much stuff. 00:00:35 Speaker 2: So how do you dare to surbey mean, welcome to? 00:00:50 Speaker 3: I said, no gifts. Temperature wineger, We're in the backyard. The temperature is tolerable. 00:00:58 Speaker 4: For now. 00:01:00 Speaker 3: What's happening. I went to Costco yesterday and used my Costco card for the first time, bought a chicken, bought some waterloo, bought you know, a few items, and I'm feeling I'm riding that high. And uh, that's about as high as I'm going to get, you know. And so let's get into the podcast. I adore today's guest. It's Mono Agapion Mono. Oh, welcome to, I said, nod. 00:01:26 Speaker 4: Oh my god, thank you for pivoting. You just did this lovely, as if I wasn't in this. 00:01:34 Speaker 3: It's kind of a news anchor urn. It's time to get serious. 00:01:38 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:01:39 Speaker 4: You delivered the beginning to almost to the wall and then turned. It was really dramatic. 00:01:45 Speaker 3: I'm imagining an entire arena of people in front of me just screaming and chanting and on where you're That's why I'm a pro. That's why people say Bridger is a pro. If he's nothing else, he's a professional pro. 00:01:58 Speaker 4: You're talking about Waterloo and I had something to say about Waterloo Waterloo, and everyone said, shut up, we have to record this. 00:02:05 Speaker 3: On only's got very mad. 00:02:08 Speaker 4: I've never seen so much anger in a person. 00:02:11 Speaker 3: Rage. Yeah, but yeah, we were saying. 00:02:15 Speaker 4: I was saying, flavor forward. 00:02:17 Speaker 3: Flavor forward probably the most of any sparkling beverage, I think so. I don't and I don't understand how they're able to maximize flavor in that way. Without it, it's still, you know, like a sugar free drink. Why are the rest of these companies following suit? They're cowards, They're cowards. Ultimately, people have no backbone. 00:02:35 Speaker 4: They've been given a choice and they took the road most travel. 00:02:40 Speaker 3: Lacroix is cowering. Yes, absolutely, what other brands are there? There's what's your favorite Waterloo flavor? 00:02:46 Speaker 4: Though? 00:02:46 Speaker 3: I gotta know that. Oh that's a great question. Now see now I'm so on the spot that I'm going to panic. I have mine, Okay, but I don't want you to say it because I'll just copy it. I feel like I've had a peach that I really enjoyed. I have three in my fridge right now. There's lemon lime, there's one that I'm suspicious of, orange vanilla, I'm not tried. And then maybe ay, yeah, it seems like a creamsickle, which we'll see how that goes. Yours could go well, black cherry. Oh see, that's a great flavor. It's just wow, wall and you're not seeing that in other sparkling waters, crying cowards, spineless, bobbly, bubbly. There's the Target brand. 00:03:35 Speaker 4: There's the Target brand. Aha. 00:03:37 Speaker 3: Aha, I recently learned has gone out of where they've shut it down. And the only reason I know that they shuttered the business. The only reason I know this is because they had it on some airline and anytime I would order it. It's like such a hard thing to say loudly, like the flight attendant would never hear what you're saying. But then you say sparkling water and they're not quite sure. But aha, like the roar of a plane, it's a very hard work. Like coke, though they were coke, so I think they're probably gonna turn it. Hopefully will be something with a harder consonant. 00:04:07 Speaker 4: Maybe a Maha pep pep that's too close to pepsi. 00:04:14 Speaker 3: But an interesting move on cokespart. You know, they could really take over the. 00:04:18 Speaker 4: Searchers cock situation. Yeah, and Coke is a cock. Coke is the cock brand like Pepsi probably. What do you think about a spin drift? Because I enjoy spending, but it's a different category for me. 00:04:31 Speaker 3: It is it's a juice. 00:04:32 Speaker 4: It's well, it's a bubbly juice. 00:04:36 Speaker 3: It definitely has a real thing in it. Yeah, they've got some sort of pulp, They've got flavor, and that's why it's always going to win out. 00:04:45 Speaker 4: It's going it's it's really lovely. Do you have a favorite flavor there? Yeah? I think so. 00:04:50 Speaker 3: I'm trying to remember. The lemonades are not my favorite. Oh the like iced tea lemonade. That one's okay. 00:04:57 Speaker 4: Actually they did like a strawberry and a cherry lemonade that didn't white work for some reason. 00:05:03 Speaker 3: I think my favorite is pineapple pineapple. Oh, I see, I haven't tried that, but I've had the grapefruit. I'll go crazy for that. 00:05:09 Speaker 4: You crazy. 00:05:10 Speaker 3: I go crazy for a grapefruit up Teryl mad cherryl screaming, crying, tears running down my face. No. The spin Drift, I do believe is a different but you run into people who don't like it. Yes, and that's baffling to me. 00:05:29 Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree, I agree. I think it's pretty delicious and yummy. 00:05:34 Speaker 3: And there are so many flavors. How can you write off the whole brand and such a specific amount of calories? 00:05:40 Speaker 4: Yes, really tickles me when they're like, this kid has eleven cal Yeah, they really want. 00:05:47 Speaker 3: You to know they thought about it. They thought about because they're obviously competing with the zero col sparkling. 00:05:52 Speaker 4: Yes, sector you're right, and envy those people who taste test them to go, this is enough juice, or the people who go, this is not enough cu. 00:06:02 Speaker 3: I would love to be in the Spin Drift kitchens. Yeah, what is that like? 00:06:07 Speaker 4: I don't know. I bet it's great. 00:06:08 Speaker 3: I bet it's extremely clean. It's probably so futuristic juicers galore. Yeah, but it's gotta be more of a chemistry situation, right, Yes. 00:06:19 Speaker 4: Let's let's let's not fool ourselves. There's it's not some sort of orange grope situation. 00:06:25 Speaker 3: They've got beakers, they have the eye droppers. 00:06:28 Speaker 4: Now, when are they going to start like some sort of like drink delivery service, such as you like a bubbler like a water fountain of spin drifts? 00:06:39 Speaker 3: Okay, do you enjoy to have a tea? 00:06:42 Speaker 4: Oh? 00:06:42 Speaker 3: Yes, of course the strange tall bottle. Love to have a tea. 00:06:46 Speaker 4: But that, to me is also a beverage that's so addictive. They need to start putting it in. 00:06:50 Speaker 3: Like a high up space behind glass. 00:06:54 Speaker 4: I want, I want some sort of delivery like vehicle that's going to replenish reply my tajava's or my spin drift. 00:07:01 Speaker 3: Are you ordering the tehava in or buying it in the like single serving thing or you're getting it in jugs? Ooh ooh oh, I don't even know if they offer a jug. It seems like you're drinking so much that I'm just assuming your home is flooding. 00:07:14 Speaker 4: I love it so much, but that's kind of the to me, the cachet is that they're always in the glass bottle. They have the small plastic ones. 00:07:20 Speaker 3: No, gross, I'm not drinking icedy out of a plastic bottle in any situation. But the big glass bottle. 00:07:25 Speaker 4: Ta Haava to me is like, uh, especially after a hangover, it's like, oh, you're gonna be okay. 00:07:30 Speaker 3: It's I love an ice green tea. But my problem with ice green tea is if you go to like your typical convenience store, they have all the sweet ones. I want it to taste purely like grass. Yeah, I agree. I don't want it to be sweet in any way. I agree, just crisp grass. 00:07:47 Speaker 4: Have you been to Japan by any chance? 00:07:49 Speaker 3: This is what I was just thinking about. You walk into a seven to eleven there, Yeah, and it is a it's like a Library of Congress level of green tea. Oh, they have every green tea you could possibly. 00:08:00 Speaker 4: Grass plus grass minus all grassmax. No, but I love I also love that. I find it really gratifying to drink and non sweetened. 00:08:08 Speaker 3: Oh, it's so nice. It feels like you're doing something even if you're not. It tastes like you're warding off cancer. 00:08:13 Speaker 4: Yes, it does. It feels like you're like truly like filtering something out, like you're liquid plumbering your body. 00:08:21 Speaker 3: And in Japan Florida ceiling options, Oh my gosh, the option. I don't know how people that even keep track of the different ones. But I guess when you live there, you have time to sort through. I also like that. 00:08:32 Speaker 4: I find that. Okay, let's talk about it. Wait, when you went to Japan, were you able to avoid the jet lag or did you live the jet lag life? I was able to avoid it completely. 00:08:43 Speaker 3: Me too, because it's so it's so extreme, you kind of you. I feel like your body has no choice but to be like this is my new reality. Yeah, Whereas like I think, if you like go to two to six hours difference, that's. 00:08:57 Speaker 4: Where you really have a hard time. I agree. 00:09:00 Speaker 3: I agree. 00:09:00 Speaker 4: And what I was gonna say about the Green Tea is I love Green Tea because it's like it's such a steady caffeine delivery device that you're never crashing or. 00:09:08 Speaker 3: Right, kind of just pushing along. I mean, I'm currently drinking my second cold brew. I've been awake for probably two and a half hours. Gray, I will probably have six hundred milligrams of caffeine in my body before the end of this podcast. You don't have a caffeine limit, it sounds like I do. Okay, my body, It's interesting, my body really tells me where like, yeah, coffee starts to taste like poison, where it's like, oh, you can't, you can't keep doing this, You're going to die. 00:09:33 Speaker 4: Yeah, my threshold's pretty low on a I love cold brew, but it is low, like you're like eighty No, you're like eighty three percent done with that coffee. I think I would be like, oh that's enough for me. 00:09:44 Speaker 3: Wow, that's just a tablespoon. I can have so little. So how after are you drinking coffee? 00:09:51 Speaker 4: I literally is I pretty often, but it's it is like a little drug for me where I'm like, okay, I'm doing tea. Tea is good for me. Tea is good for me, but then like coffee is so sexy. 00:10:02 Speaker 3: Oh, and it tastes so good. When it's good, it's as good as it can. 00:10:06 Speaker 4: And the high is oh, euphoria, absolute euphoria. So like it's like a dark maiden that keeps calling my name. 00:10:16 Speaker 3: But then it'll it'll get me good. Yeah, it's I should say I got this. I'd like to just always advertise found coffee on this podcast. It's a place an eagle Rock. Have you ever been to found coffee? Oh, I'm probably gonna go after this. Now they're not a sponsor, but I love the place so much. I just like to say their name on the. 00:10:32 Speaker 4: Coffee, good pastries or something. 00:10:34 Speaker 3: They have a small pastry case that's almost always empty because I think people must love them. 00:10:38 Speaker 4: And by the time I get there, it's always gone online video that's like, go to Found coff Oh interesting for some sort of pastry. 00:10:46 Speaker 3: Oh well, they might. Today they had some sort of breakfast sandwich being made in the parking lot, some sort of group of men meeting. 00:10:53 Speaker 4: Wow, what what are you saying? 00:10:56 Speaker 3: I don't know. It was very busy there today. 00:10:58 Speaker 4: There's a group of men meeting. 00:11:00 Speaker 3: And I thought my initial thought, whenever you see a group of men meeting, alarm bells are going off. 00:11:04 Speaker 4: I was gonna say one of two ways. 00:11:07 Speaker 3: But I know Found so well. I'm sure that they were probably planning to, I don't know, do some community service or do something nice for the world. They're probably going out to rescue dogs. 00:11:17 Speaker 4: Maybe maybe that was it. Maybe, but maybe they were huddling up though for nefarious reasons. Not it found, not not at Found Maybe at Panera. 00:11:27 Speaker 3: At Panera. If you see a group of men meeting at a Panera exit turn around, exit call nine one. 00:11:35 Speaker 4: Once you're in the car and the car is locked. What do you do when you're in a group of like a bunch of straight men. Do you panic? 00:11:40 Speaker 3: Do you play a part? Do you lean into yourself? I think I that's a great question. I think I kind of just meld in. I mean, I was closeted until I was thirty, so it became very easy to just belong in a straight group of men. Sure name, sure, sure, sure. But then there's a good chance that every straight man I'm around is like, wow, Bridger is so gay. 00:12:01 Speaker 4: Maybe, but also I feel the same way. I'm like, I don't. It scares me how quickly I can like code switch around straight. 00:12:08 Speaker 3: Man because I did it so long, right, it's almost like you don't have a choice, even Yeah, you're just flipping into Well, I guess I'm part of this conversation. 00:12:17 Speaker 4: Yeah, I just as a cousin at a cousin's wedding, and I had no code switch a bit. 00:12:21 Speaker 3: Oh and was it a straight wedding. It was straight wedding, but with good people, very good kind people. 00:12:26 Speaker 4: But around some of my straighter cousins, I found myself saying things like, what's good I don't say it all. 00:12:32 Speaker 3: No, I don't, so I take it back what I said. I guess I'm just absolutely flaming around everybody. I would never say what's good? 00:12:42 Speaker 4: I said what's good? But like this, what's good? That's good? What the hell is that? 00:12:48 Speaker 3: What's good? 00:12:49 Speaker 4: What's good? Nothing's good? I'm lying to you and me. 00:12:54 Speaker 3: Nothing's good. Oh no, I would leave the wedding. Yeah, did you get responses for people like, oh, this was that of character? 00:13:01 Speaker 4: Or yeah, I was talking to I have. 00:13:02 Speaker 3: Some cousins who just don't talk a lot, or I talk way too much. 00:13:06 Speaker 4: Okay, sure, two things can be true, but I just got to talk. Someone's got to talk. 00:13:14 Speaker 3: Have you ever talked to someone who's Okay, I'm talking a lot. 00:13:16 Speaker 4: I know that much. 00:13:17 Speaker 3: But you're on a podcast. 00:13:18 Speaker 4: There you go. 00:13:19 Speaker 3: If you would just quiet down and do this reaction through the rest of the episode, No, what were you going to say? 00:13:25 Speaker 4: I was gonna say. I met a man who was tall and handsome in LA and he was like, I'm having a hard time making friends, And I was like, oh, of course, being LA is actually kind of challenging in that way, very hard to make friends. You have to drive places and be out going, and frankly, some people are scared when you're like hi, I'm I'm pretty sure they're not used to it. I mean that's every response I get, but they're like whatever. He was like, I'm having hard having friends. So I'm asking him questions, I'm engaging with him, and he's answering every question with a period and and and nothing else, just like yeah mm hmm, West Hollywood. 00:14:01 Speaker 3: And I'm like, motherfucker, I know why you're not making friends. 00:14:05 Speaker 4: You're bad at talking. 00:14:07 Speaker 3: It's it's very surprising to me how difficult it is for a lot of adults to hold a very basic conversation of like, you know, it's just tennis. You're just someone asks you a question, you answer, then you ask it back. Yeah, it's doesn't I mean you can and then you work from there. It's just but you run into I mean, I think, because we're both in comedy, I do think you run into a certain type of personality. I don't know if this is true for you. And you can speak to you can speak to your own experience. But I am surrounded by people I was scared. 00:14:37 Speaker 4: It's a scary. 00:14:37 Speaker 3: I'm surrounded by people that I will go out to dinner with them, and it just turns into an interview where I'm just asking the question, do you have that at all? Yeah, certainly, certainly that happened. Do those people do you say, oh, I want to see them again? Or is it like, okay, now I don't need to see them for three years. That's a good question. It can go a number of ways. 00:14:57 Speaker 4: It can depend on if if they're just not as good at talkie talkie as me, or or if it was truly painful. That can run the gamut, right, But yeah, I would say probably to be honest. More often I feel the countier response, which is I don't I don't need to hang out with you. I'm a blast and if you can't keep up, I'm so sorry, Like truly, yeah, Unfortunately, do you do the same were you're like, I'm sorry, I can't. We can't hang out if you're not going to talk to me. 00:15:28 Speaker 3: That yes, And I feel like those people are often people that reach out the most where it's like, yes, you're not getting I guess they're I guess they are getting a great deal. They're getting there. 00:15:39 Speaker 4: They just bought a house at auction for five bucks they're they're getting the best deal and we're getting a shit deal. 00:15:46 Speaker 3: Yes, I'm going out to dinner with them, bored out of my mind. Yeah, finding out about their boring lives. And then this tell you me, if you do this, I do this horrible thing. 00:15:55 Speaker 4: I am such a talker that then I'll say something stupid, even stupider that I shouldn't have even said, because I'm trying to fill this emptiness. 00:16:04 Speaker 3: I mean, you have to. You will say several things you regret. I think that's their strategy. They just leave you to just flail and you're just saying whatever you possibly can. Eventually you're gonna say something wrong. Yeah, yeah, that happens to me all the time. Totally Okay, you want to hear this awkward interactually happened. I was also at the wedding and I was talking to a gay gentleman and it was lovely. 00:16:24 Speaker 4: And great until his partner came up. So his partner came up and was like, you're flirting with my man. 00:16:33 Speaker 3: Oh, and I'm so irritating. 00:16:35 Speaker 4: Immediately it was immediately like, oh cool, I'm now in your relationship. 00:16:40 Speaker 3: I would be so mad. 00:16:41 Speaker 4: I am now part of your throttle and I didn't ask to be. 00:16:45 Speaker 3: And I was like, oh ha ha ha ha ha. 00:16:47 Speaker 4: Let's let's like, let's divert. Let's let's divert from this like kind of couple tension. But he did not. He leaned deeper into it. He's like, that's why I can't leave him alone. 00:16:57 Speaker 3: Oh okay, so maybe something has happened. Something happened, and something's going to happen. 00:17:02 Speaker 4: He's going to happen. Yeah. It felt like a mixture thing. 00:17:05 Speaker 3: That's not it, because that's happening to every man that he talks to. Yeah, that's not That's a relationship that is absolutely crumbling in real time. It's disintegrating for everyone's eyes fully, and I felt. 00:17:19 Speaker 4: The man I was talking to. I felt his light dim like I felt his soul leave his body. And like when the more aggressive partner was being like, oh, yeah, he flirts with everyone, you do you flirt with everyone? And then I felt him go the other one go like you know what I mean, because there's nothing he could do in that moment. 00:17:39 Speaker 3: Right, of course, there's no coming back from that. If my boyfriend did that to me in a social situation, I would turn to him and say we are breaking up. 00:17:46 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yea one hundred percent, you can leave the wedding. Here's a hot tip for anyone. Just don't don't bicker with your partner ever in public. 00:17:58 Speaker 3: I'm kind to them, Well, you're speaking to the wrong I mean, my relationship is built on bickery. 00:18:03 Speaker 4: I've absolutely bickered with my partner. But there's a fine line. 00:18:06 Speaker 3: There's a line, there's a there's a difference. 00:18:09 Speaker 4: There'thing like bickering and then like getting something out emotionally in the presence of someone else. Yes, it's like and even if you do that, because I've done that with my partner and then afterwards I've been like, hey, I'm sorry, that was stupid, Like that was not cool. I love you. 00:18:23 Speaker 3: I'm your biggest cheerleader. 00:18:24 Speaker 4: I need to be mindful about how like a joke can be sharp and shitty, right, yeah, yeah. 00:18:30 Speaker 3: It's an it's an interesting Uh, you have to be very careful. Like in my relationship, we're very different people, so we just always have different opinions basically, but that there's occasionally a situation where we ended up in a huge fight afterwards, where like it just happened to go too far. Whatever, thinking we were working within the boundaries of what we do totally and then it's you know, a lot of crying and then we get through it. But I mean the fact that you're like doing it, You're like, okay, we need to right. Well, I won't be the person that says that because I can't communicate. He'll say I know something's wrong, and then we get through good. 00:19:07 Speaker 4: It sounds a very good balance. 00:19:08 Speaker 3: It's yeah, I think so me and my partner are very different people as well. Is are you the communicator or is he? 00:19:14 Speaker 4: I am the communicator? 00:19:16 Speaker 3: You know what, We're both different style of communicators. He is he? 00:19:23 Speaker 4: How do I put this? 00:19:24 Speaker 3: Yeah, we're different. 00:19:25 Speaker 4: He's like, he's better at having tough conversations and I'm better at emotional low stakes connection if that makes sense, right, right, So, like I'm good at like the everyday connection and he's good at the okay, we need to kind of have like a talk about something of substance, right, which is a little harder for me to do, right, but. 00:19:48 Speaker 3: It's good for long term exactly relationship. Yeah, Yeah, I guess that's probably well. I think I'm probably worse at communicating on every category compared to my boyfriend, but he's helping me through I like this. Were you raised in a communicative family? 00:20:05 Speaker 4: Yes? And no. It's so funny you because it's like, yes, I grew up in a family with like a ton of feelings okay, but also a lot of lies, do you know what I mean? Like, so it's like, on the one hand, people were extremely clear about their feelings, but on the other hand, the amount of lies is staggering. 00:20:24 Speaker 3: So like, were you contributing to the line? I don't. 00:20:27 Speaker 4: Well maybe as a closeted little but that's a different type of No. I think my therapist would say. No, there's like no because my my narrative is taking more space in my family. 00:20:39 Speaker 3: Oh okay, I grew up being like the least. 00:20:44 Speaker 4: Explosive personality, So my role now in life is taking space and being like feeling my own feelings. That's opposed to being like it's okay, I can fit in this wedge, like you know, I can fit in my liver. 00:20:59 Speaker 3: No, it's fine. I know the I'm stuck between the couch and the wall, but it's fine. That's my thing, right how about you? Zero, I mean, there's absolutely no communication. I think that is clear among every member of my family where essential silence. God bless all of us. But you know, coming into a relationship with somebody who came from a family that is everything they've ever felt to each other, it's an interesting It's been a learning curve for me. It's like, oh, you can just say what you're feeling whenever you want. Yeah, that's not a big deal. Yeah, it's probably the healthier way of handling things. 00:21:39 Speaker 4: Are things evolving in that family front or it's kind of like we're going to let the family do what they do best. 00:21:45 Speaker 3: When we're all together, there continues to be an almost a near silence. But individually, I think we can communicate with each other going on one phone calls, that kind of thing. If somebody's cornered and we you know, something has to be said. I get that. 00:22:01 Speaker 4: Do you feel this like with my family? I feel frustrated because like the near how do I put this? My family is almost like an episode of a sitcom that resets every thirty minutes. So it's like there's. 00:22:13 Speaker 3: A huge fight, everything's crazy, everyone hates each other. Then there's a resolution, but that resolution lasts not but ten seconds until the next episode streams. Like and I actually find it more exhausting than if they were incredibly boring and had nothing to offer. There's just like, I'll watch what you wish for. There's exhaustion in both the categories. I would say, sure, do you see your family often? 00:22:40 Speaker 4: Ish? I would say a couple times a year, So that feels like often to me. 00:22:44 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's about where I am at this point. Yeah, do they come here or do you go to them? I always go to them, Okay, it's probably. 00:22:51 Speaker 4: I kind of prefer it. Yeah, you have a little more control. 00:22:53 Speaker 3: They never come here, But I kind of love that. 00:22:56 Speaker 4: I'm like butt hurt on one on the one end, because I've lived in LA since two thousand and eight. 00:23:01 Speaker 3: Right, they've never come here. 00:23:02 Speaker 4: Never. 00:23:03 Speaker 3: My brother has come here. 00:23:04 Speaker 4: Okay, but but it's also like I but it's also do I want them to come here? Kind of No, certainly not some characters. There's characters who. 00:23:13 Speaker 3: Are a little more work right, Yes, I can definitely speak to that off podcast. 00:23:19 Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly. 00:23:20 Speaker 3: Members of them I love having here. They listen to your podcast, some of them do, yea. 00:23:24 Speaker 4: Some of them. 00:23:25 Speaker 3: My mom listens to a decent amount. My sister listens to it, and then it's unclear who else is listening at all times. So I think my family listened to any of my podcast, Thank God, God, bless God, bless no. I you know, I appreciate. I'm glad the people who listen are the most understanding members. Yeah, patient, you know. 00:23:43 Speaker 4: Letting you live authentically right without being censored, right, right, it's important. 00:23:49 Speaker 3: Have you seen Long Legs? 00:23:51 Speaker 4: No, I haven't seen it, and I love horror. 00:23:54 Speaker 3: Okay, I love horror. I haven't seen it, so we could because talk about it there. I mean I want to lower your I want to lower your expectations. Okay, okay, okay, okay, we're yeah, they're low. I was not scared by this movie, okay, but I think something might. About halfway through, I thought, am I broken? Why is this not frightening? The very beginning's frightening and then almost not scary at all for the rest of the movie. 00:24:18 Speaker 4: I do get that, I mean, aren't we We've all been broken in a way like horror, and so many horrible things have happened in life and in the world that Horror is has never been more camp. 00:24:29 Speaker 3: Right, extremely camp and almost comfort Yeah, just like well, it's. 00:24:34 Speaker 4: At least you know, there's a murderous clown trying to shove me into a suer grade who. 00:24:39 Speaker 3: Will eventually be contained by the end of the movie, will hopefully be contained. 00:24:43 Speaker 4: Yeah, so at least at least we know he goes away for twenty seven years. That's comforting. No, but yeah, I very much relate to what you're saying. It's like a weird gift of having a traumatizing family. Is he is like becoming such a stronger version of yourself. And horror does feel like comedy to you? Did you watch Maxine? 00:25:06 Speaker 3: I haven't seen. I just recently watched Pearl and X. Okay, okay, okay, which I enjoyed but was again not scared. Yeah, okay, were you scared by those movies? No, certainly not Pearl No X. It's interesting. They're interesting movies. They're not so much scary, right, They're more like tone or I'm not quite sure. Like I enjoyed watching them, but I was like, I don't even know what to describe that as VI. Yeah, very vibe, very I guess kind of gothic or something. It's just darkness. Mea gothic, be a gothic. Yeah, that's her full name. 00:25:40 Speaker 4: No, but yeah, it's kind of a vibe. So I'd be curious to see if you like it or not. 00:25:45 Speaker 3: I mean the trailer definitely sends off an enormous vibe. 00:25:48 Speaker 4: The vibe is immaculate. Okay, but quote my niece, no, but like the vibe is viby. But that's people are bringing up the point that is it a movie? 00:25:57 Speaker 3: Oh interesting? 00:25:58 Speaker 4: Is it a movie or is it a vibe? Wow? 00:26:02 Speaker 3: That far? 00:26:03 Speaker 4: People go that far, And I mean that's really a fair question. But I got trick because I watched it. I was like, that's a movie, and then someone was like, I don't think it was. And then I went, oh, maybe it wasn't. 00:26:14 Speaker 3: Were you entertained? Yeah? 00:26:15 Speaker 4: I was entertained for sure. 00:26:16 Speaker 3: That's all I ask for at this point. Yes, give me an hour and a half of me feeling something. You're gonna feel something, okay, and you're gonna feel gay when you watch it. Okay, you're gonna be like, yes, I'm gay. You know it's right. I mean the trailer makes that. That makes sense from the trailer. 00:26:32 Speaker 4: Yeah, is there's some real Hollywood inside bullshit too? 00:26:35 Speaker 3: Is it scary? Is there any like attempts at being scary. 00:26:38 Speaker 4: Mmmmm. I would think it's more of a thrill here and there than truly scary. Okay, what's the scariest movie you've seen ever? Yeah? 00:26:47 Speaker 3: The Strangers. 00:26:48 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a good one. 00:26:49 Speaker 3: It was awful. I mean it is such a The first time, the feeling was so terrible. Yeah, I mean, in a obviously effective way. It wanted me to feel scared. And the first time I started watching it about twelve forty five am alone. By the time they were knocking on the door, I had to turn it off. Yeah, I had to wait for someone else to be with me to. 00:27:12 Speaker 4: Watch the maker Gosh, you know, I have a huge criticism about that movie though. What the ending sucks? I can't remember the ending spoiler. 00:27:20 Speaker 3: One, two, three, four. 00:27:22 Speaker 4: Okay, they kill them and to me, oh, they kill the people who live in the house. Yeah, they live Tyler and Scott Speedman, Right, how rude? They're hot. People don't kill them, No, but they deserve to They deserve to live. But I mean, I argue, it's so much scarier to let them live. 00:27:41 Speaker 3: Oh, you think it's scarier to let them live? Yes, let them live the trauma. 00:27:44 Speaker 4: Let them live, because that's their whole ethos They say, why did you do this? Because you were home and their whole thing is the game. So it's way scarier to let them live. It's like killing them is completely anti climactic. 00:27:58 Speaker 3: Well do you know why. I think the reason they say that is because this is my criticism of the movie. It says based on true events, and you know what, it's based on. 00:28:06 Speaker 4: Exactly the Sharon Tate murders, which yeah. 00:28:10 Speaker 3: I mean, it's just like, oh so it's just based on a concept of murder, like just it has nothing to do with the Manson family, right, But the reason Sharon Tate that situation unfolded, the reason she was killed. 00:28:21 Speaker 4: She wasn't the target, she. 00:28:22 Speaker 3: Was just there. They thought the Manson group thought they were going to kill somebody else. I didn't know this part of this, huh, So I think that that must be why I like at the end of it. And that is a scary thing to say. 00:28:35 Speaker 4: That's a very scary thing to say. That's my my favorite part about the Manson family. 00:28:40 Speaker 3: We all have a favorite isolate that just that. 00:28:47 Speaker 4: The reason I will defend the Manson family till I die. Creepy crawling, you're familiar with creepy. 00:28:53 Speaker 3: Of course, what a scary thing to call it scary? 00:28:56 Speaker 4: And if you're not familiar with that, that thing that they did where before they killed, they would sneak into people's homes, move something in a person's home, very obviously, just to un just to unsettle the people living in that home. Oh, and to me, that's that's the core of the scare. It's like, killing isn't scary. Letting them live with this, living in a world where people creepy crawl is scary. 00:29:19 Speaker 3: Yeah, it just becomes torture because you can never escape. Then, yeah, creepy crawling. And what a great branding of a thing. 00:29:25 Speaker 4: Right, it became way I'm thirty eight, right, did you grow up with the creepy crawler? 00:29:30 Speaker 3: Oh? 00:29:30 Speaker 4: Yeah? Oh? 00:29:30 Speaker 3: Interesting, creepy crawlers. They must creepy crawlers must not have been aware of the Manson connection, were they? What's worse? Was it a trade or didn't know? I think it was a secret training device for children somehow trying to breed the next generation of Manson's. Manson's the next generation. 00:29:50 Speaker 4: And one of my favorite thing about that, the next generation of Manson's. 00:29:54 Speaker 3: No, that's interesting. I wonder, I mean, creepy crawler. I wonder where that did that come? Pre Charles? Did he take that from somebody else? 00:30:06 Speaker 4: Yeah? 00:30:07 Speaker 3: Probably probably creepy crawling. Another favorite thing about the Manson family is I believe that night they went to Denny's. Okay, amazing Denny's would embrace They should. 00:30:20 Speaker 4: They should do a Manson family menu, just blood splattered PAMs, you know what I mean, some ligament. 00:30:27 Speaker 3: Burrito's over Manson or something. 00:30:30 Speaker 4: Okay, Manson's. How do you feel about Shirley Manson Garbage? Of course, we love Shirley Manson. We Scottish Chiro hero. I love her so much. 00:30:39 Speaker 3: I you know, I've never really gotten into garbage that much, but I love the band name of course, Yes, I love I feel like they put out. Isn't an album called absolute garbage? 00:30:47 Speaker 4: Yes? 00:30:48 Speaker 3: I mean incredible, incredible to call an album of your music absolute garbage is genius. Nothing better than that. 00:30:55 Speaker 4: I love them. 00:30:55 Speaker 3: I love her. I met her twice. 00:30:57 Speaker 4: You met her twice when twice the first time was I was creepy crawling. This is true. I was walking by the Hollywood Tower. Okay, and Hollywood Tower used to do these rooftop radio shows, and I knew my friend lived there, so I was able to sneak into the Hollywood Tower because I knew the door code. Okay, okay, they were I was like, is someone playing garbage really loud? 00:31:23 Speaker 3: I was like, it sounds stunning. 00:31:25 Speaker 4: No. It turns out they were doing the sound check on the roof of the Hollywood Tower, and everything in me said, oh, I'm this is a real moment. Am I going to crash their soundcheck? Or am I going to be a normal person? Yeah? 00:31:41 Speaker 3: You really find out how normal you are in this situation. 00:31:44 Speaker 4: And I failed the test or I passed the test, I don't know, but I creepy crawled up there. They were sound checking and kind of singing songs, and I lied right to her face and said, oh, I just I was. I'm a huge fan, but I live here in the building and I just heard heard you singing when I grow up from my apartment, so I thought I had to come see what's up. So I just she assumed I was a normal person right living there? And how was she delightful? Oh that's great, sweet, thoughtful, asked questions I told her because also I had a funny history with her. 00:32:16 Speaker 3: Where it was the first concert I went to. 00:32:19 Speaker 4: Uh huh, and my sweet mom drove me to Myrtle Beach to the House of Blues Wow, to watch Garbage when I was like thirteen. 00:32:29 Speaker 3: That is incredible. Was your mom at the show with you? Yeah? Incredible? I know, just watching from the sidelines. That is so lovely. 00:32:36 Speaker 4: It was really cute. So I told her that, and she's and I can't do her gorgeous Glasgowegian accent. Sure, she was like, oh, I love your mom, And how sweet that you have that memory. 00:32:49 Speaker 3: That was the first time I met her. Okay, and let me ask one thing. Was she's sporting a red lip at the time. I associate her with a strong red baby. I want to say yes, I have a picture of it somewhere, but I want to say yes, Okay, I feel like that's true. Right she rocks around? Okay, yeah, that's kind of her signature. 00:33:05 Speaker 4: That's the hair phase is you know that's short, the short hair face, right, we don't remember the red What color was it when you saw her? What are they blondish? 00:33:12 Speaker 3: Oh? Interesting? What is she naturally? What's you're running from? That's the big question? 00:33:18 Speaker 4: Is she a real natural redhead? And when you see other natural redheads, do you go do you wink at them? 00:33:24 Speaker 3: I think I have a blindness. Okay, I think I'm easily fooled by a hair dye, a wig with hair. I just maybe I just see too much goodness in people. I feel like no one's willing to deceive me, and so wigs, hair color. I'm just like, I guess that's the real thing. I mean, the most, the most famous is Christina Hendrix. Oh, she's fake blonde. 00:33:45 Speaker 4: I pulls it off. 00:33:46 Speaker 3: I'm aghast she pulls it off incredibly. 00:33:49 Speaker 4: Does pull it off. Some people are meant to be red. 00:33:51 Speaker 3: Yeah. I think she something went wrong universally. She was born blonde, but was able to locate what colors she actually needed. 00:33:58 Speaker 4: I have another dear friend who was like running from her redness her whole life, and then finally leaned into it. 00:34:04 Speaker 3: And obviously everyone around her. 00:34:06 Speaker 4: Was like, oh, you're beautiful, and she was like, you know, almost frustrated. She was like, I know, why have I been running from this? 00:34:14 Speaker 1: Well? 00:34:15 Speaker 3: The thing is is you can't run from red. Red hair is one redheaded people are the one people who can't dye their hair without it looking strange or like, oh, something's off. Yeah, you can go red. Yeah, you simply can't go from red to something else. It's just unless you're like going into I mean, the only you have to go darker, sure, or you look sick and I'm you know, I've never had a gothic phase or any time where I felt like, oh I need to be a darker version of myself. 00:34:44 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:34:44 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, let's get back to Shirley Manson. 00:34:50 Speaker 4: That's She's great. I feel like I've derailed yourself. I've derailed your entire podcast. I feel this podcast should be called derailed the entire there's I've never been an episode of this podcast that was on rail. Okay, but I need to hear the second surely. Okay. This that one was more funny because. 00:35:08 Speaker 3: This time you were in her home. 00:35:10 Speaker 4: I wish I wish. 00:35:13 Speaker 3: It was in her smelling her hair. 00:35:15 Speaker 4: No, but her goddaughter, who's a lovely comedian named Ruby. 00:35:19 Speaker 3: Her goddaughter took. 00:35:21 Speaker 4: My improv class. 00:35:22 Speaker 3: Oh my god, and came to an improv class of mine wearing a garbage sweater and I was like, oh, I love garbage. 00:35:28 Speaker 4: Oh. And then she said, oh, my dad's in the band, And I said, and of course I tried to I didn't I didn't even play it cool. 00:35:34 Speaker 3: And I was like, what the fuck are you saying to me? Are you fucking kidding me? 00:35:38 Speaker 4: This band that like actually raised me, you're the offspring of the band that raised me. 00:35:45 Speaker 3: And then she was like ha haha. Yes. 00:35:47 Speaker 4: I was like that's amazing, that's so cool, and she's like, yeah, surely man said my godmother. I was like, wow, lucky horror. 00:35:53 Speaker 3: How many people have a godmother with merch? 00:35:55 Speaker 4: I know, the big question, I know. And then she was like, oh, yeah, she's gonna come to my improv because I was teaching improp one to one. She's like, she's gonna come to the improv one on one grad show and I was like oh, and I it took everything in me to be like, because the other thing is like that day is not about me, well, sometimes it has to be. It's not it has to be. It wasn't about me, and and because it was about everyone else, and I was very selfless and but then one of the assholes someone in the audience recognized her and gave the improv suggestion garbage. 00:36:28 Speaker 3: Oh You've got to be kidding. 00:36:30 Speaker 4: Which was and I saw Shirley Manson go like touch her brow in frustration of like, can you fucking please leave me? 00:36:38 Speaker 3: And I live my life and. 00:36:39 Speaker 4: Then let me enjoy my lovely goddaughter's improv show and let her enjoy her performance without you being a creep all those things. 00:36:47 Speaker 3: And I met her after the show again and it was really nice. I mean, unless Ruby planted that. I mean, I think Ruby wants garbage to be She's wearing the merch. She is out there kind of trying to promote the band Ruby. 00:36:59 Speaker 4: Ruby has a secret Ruby shout out to Ruby, Wow. 00:37:03 Speaker 3: I wonder what your third meeting will be. 00:37:05 Speaker 4: Like, Oh god, I hope it's why, Oh my god. Okay, here's my dream. I've successfully cast Shirley Manson in my comedy pilot, where she gets to play a dismissive, rude boss of some kind. 00:37:19 Speaker 3: She would be so good at that. She weirdly did in the Terminator TV show. I didn't know she acted. 00:37:24 Speaker 4: She acted, Yeah, she was in this Terminator TV show from the early mid odds. Well she goes strange. Yeah wow, oh yeah she was. I'm biased. 00:37:33 Speaker 3: Did she play a Scottish person? 00:37:35 Speaker 4: I don't remember. I want to say she used her natural accent. Okay, okay, yeah, Scottish terminator, Scottish Terminator's nothing worse than when an actor with quite a thick accent goes American. 00:37:48 Speaker 3: Well do you think it's uh? I feel like they're able to pull it off again. But maybe this goes back to me just believing anything anyone ever does. 00:37:56 Speaker 4: I think you're kinder than me. Whereas okay, it's and specifically I need to shut up. But I was in Canada, I was on set. I was on set, and this is a show that's supposed to take place in the South. 00:38:09 Speaker 3: Okay, well we have Canadian actors. Oh, I mean you can't run from a Canadian accent. That will there will always be a peek into a Canadian accent. 00:38:17 Speaker 4: Yes, And part of the job was just being like, no, shut up, don't say that. Like they're like, I love me a glass of water, and so partly I was like, no, no, you love water, you love water, like and it was like so that. So I don't know, I'm biased. Sometimes I think running away from an accent is hard. 00:38:36 Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like there has been recently a British person trying to do an American accent. 00:38:40 Speaker 1: That. 00:38:40 Speaker 3: It was the first time that I've really been like, oh, you shouldn't have tried. We should have just hired an American. That part, but for the most part, I feel like British people are better at doing an American accent. That Americans are able to do a British accent. 00:38:52 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that that is a hund oh a million percent true. 00:38:55 Speaker 3: Why is that? 00:38:57 Speaker 4: I don't know, they're smart, it's stupid. 00:39:00 Speaker 3: And I feel like maybe because American accents are it's just like a flattening that all you have to do. There's less work. 00:39:07 Speaker 4: You just essentially just crush everything, every word into the blandest version. Yeah, it's whereas the various British accents there's I mean, vowels are going in every possible direction. 00:39:20 Speaker 3: Absolutely, it's a little they've it's a more complicated version of it. 00:39:25 Speaker 4: Oh my god. Scottish accent Scottish, I would say, if this is right? 00:39:31 Speaker 3: Sometimes is for me indecipherable. Have you had a Scottish accent? Do you to our Scottish listeners? 00:39:39 Speaker 4: So sorry, have you heard that thing of like Scottish people, it's really hard for Scottish people to say purple burglar alarm. 00:39:46 Speaker 3: Oh you're kidding, what do they what ends up happening? 00:39:48 Speaker 4: It's they implode Purple burglar alarm incredibly hard if you have a Scottish act. 00:39:53 Speaker 3: Psycho came up with that. 00:39:54 Speaker 4: I mean, I don't try. But if you are at home safely and you feel safe doing dialect, say purple burglar alarm three times in a Scottish accent, you'll you'll actually implode. 00:40:07 Speaker 3: Well, look, I mean we've got to talk about something else. Yeah, it's time. We're bordering on the offensive here. The Scottish listeners are turning down the dial, they're leaving negative reviews. We have to move on. There's something else I have to talk to you about. Okay, I was really excited to have Mono on the podcast today. How could I not be a beam of light? Will have a wonderful time. You know, I'm hanging by a threat emotionally. I need this. I need to have a nice episode of the podcast. So I was a little surprised. I was, I'll say a little disappointed. The podcast is called I said, no gifts, and here you come trotting into my backyard holding what's obviously a gift for me. I mean it couldn't be what you brought could not be more clearly a gift. 00:40:53 Speaker 4: It's gorgeously packaged. It's gorgeously packaged, it's addressed to me, it's already been opened. 00:40:59 Speaker 3: It has a huge warning label fragile. Thank you. Yes, it's a gift for me. 00:41:06 Speaker 4: Yeah, I had to get you something. I knew you to be upset. I hate to hear that. I know, I know. But it's small. It's small. It's small. It's incredibly personal, but it's also small, okay, and it means a lot to me. But it was tiny, okay. And also it's an heirloom. But it's nothing. 00:41:26 Speaker 3: I mean, we're at a crossroads. We can stop recording or I can open it here on the podcast. 00:41:31 Speaker 4: I think you should open it because you're gonna see it's it's minuscule. 00:41:34 Speaker 3: It's tiny, Okay, I'm gonna take your word for it. It's and you'll be glad to know. 00:41:40 Speaker 4: It's deeply self serving. So it has nothing to it almost has nothing to do with you, Okay, And once you see, you'll really understand how it has nothing to do. 00:41:50 Speaker 3: Sort of medication for you. Pull this out. 00:41:53 Speaker 4: I do need you to open that. Oh, I mean you're off the podcast, get out of here. It's it's lipstick, yes, drag her lipstick, Yes, drag her. 00:42:08 Speaker 3: You can go ahead and just tell everybody. 00:42:09 Speaker 4: Guess if you insist. 00:42:11 Speaker 1: Uh. 00:42:12 Speaker 4: Yeah, I have a the Only drag Race podcast, much like you, I also do a bit where I host the Only drag Race podcast. 00:42:21 Speaker 3: You kind of send seasoned desist letters to other people trying to start them. 00:42:24 Speaker 4: Thankfully, Yeah, no one, and I know one I know talking about it on the internet, which is a shock to me. No, but a lovely, the lovely, amazing Tyler Sparr sent me these, who is an amazing creator who makes personalized drag Race style lipsticks. Wow, and sent me literally was just like, hey, like, you always make album artwork for your for your podcast with little lipsticks that are fashioned after the ones on the show. Can I send you some that say drag Her? And thankfully he sent me two sets. 00:42:58 Speaker 3: Okay, so you've got some. I have them at home and I gave you the ones I liked less. 00:43:02 Speaker 4: Wow. 00:43:02 Speaker 3: This feels sort of like, uh, you know, the like cursed objects where one person has them and another person has them. Yes, they can never come back together again. What are they? 00:43:12 Speaker 4: It's but it's like turtle doves from home alone too? 00:43:15 Speaker 3: What what turtle doves from home alone too? I mean not in years? 00:43:20 Speaker 4: So remember the kind of ghost man who runs the toy store gives little McCully culkin. 00:43:26 Speaker 3: I guess I haven't seen it in a very long time, the ghost man who runs the toys. 00:43:30 Speaker 4: I think it's like alluded to that the man at the counter, like was never real what in home alone? I don't recall any of this. 00:43:39 Speaker 3: There's an evil spirit, a trickster spirit. 00:43:42 Speaker 4: Way wrong. There's like a sweet old man at the counter who when McCully culkin is running away from the sticky band, it's it's like, take these these little ornaments that. 00:43:52 Speaker 3: Are turtle doves. 00:43:53 Speaker 4: Turtle doves always like come back together. You'll keep one and you'll give another one to someone meaningful, Okay, And then he ends up giving one turtle dove to the bird lady. 00:44:05 Speaker 3: I remember her, Yeah, I mean she was frightening. I mean, I mean scarier than long legs. Imagine her smell. Oh boy, I mean she should have shared that hotel room with Kevin Shower. It is the winter in New York and that rich. 00:44:21 Speaker 4: Horrible little boy rich, horrible little boy stayed in a presidential suite. 00:44:25 Speaker 3: Got all sorts of dessert pizza, their filthy. 00:44:28 Speaker 4: Piss covered child, His piss covered brother had a king bed to himself. They didn't once think about this unhoused woman who lives in Central Park during the winter of New. 00:44:37 Speaker 3: York, the oldest place in the world. 00:44:40 Speaker 4: Mong girls. 00:44:41 Speaker 3: Wow, there have died on their watch. 00:44:44 Speaker 4: Yes, they're worse than the Succession family. 00:44:46 Speaker 3: They are essentially there's a reason Donald Trump is in that movie because those little boys have the spirit of Donald Trump. 00:44:52 Speaker 4: They endorsed devils. They endorsed him fully. They penned Project twenty twenty five. Kevin McAllister is the author behind Project the. 00:45:02 Speaker 3: Ghost, behind that entire operation, The Devil the Wow, You've really uncovered something about that movie that I think people need to take a look at. 00:45:12 Speaker 4: I think so. I think so, And that's why I've got you. This will be linked forever. You'll be glad to know that they're lip bombs. Oh, they're lip balm. They're lip bombs. Soreible, dramatic lip b it's a dramatic lip To pull this out of my bag. 00:45:26 Speaker 3: Yes, Oh, I'm thrilled about this. 00:45:28 Speaker 4: I'm happy for you too, and you'll always remember that there's only one drag Race podcast, drag her. 00:45:34 Speaker 3: How why are lip bombs not more often put in a dramatic lipstick container? 00:45:39 Speaker 4: Homophobia? 00:45:40 Speaker 3: Unbelievable. It's time to drop the uh, you know, the little round tube. 00:45:45 Speaker 4: Can I be so forward as to ask you to apply some now? Of course? 00:45:49 Speaker 3: On at least we can record me applying. I hope it is just a deep dark Shirley Manson redy dude, you immediately start crooning. I'm on that hap wing it. 00:46:04 Speaker 4: Okay, Okay, Wow, gorgeous packaging. What a thoughtful gift. 00:46:07 Speaker 3: I think you just pull out. 00:46:10 Speaker 4: I don't know, okay what what? 00:46:16 Speaker 3: Okay? 00:46:17 Speaker 4: Oh my god, oh my god. One is empty. 00:46:19 Speaker 3: I'm so sorry. 00:46:20 Speaker 4: One is empty. 00:46:22 Speaker 3: Let's try the other one. Drugs. 00:46:29 Speaker 4: Let's see if the other one is okay, good, good good, it's just alone, just a single bullet. Okay, Let's see if this one hasn't. 00:46:39 Speaker 1: Empty. 00:46:41 Speaker 3: I've been given to Oh my trick, lip Baltons. This is maybe the greatest I can this is my mind work, This is the great this is somehow the meanest. Is this the meanest gift you've ever gotten? This is cruel. This is cruel because the listener was excited. I was excited. Yes, unbelievable. 00:47:03 Speaker 4: This is ridiculously I think I brought you the worst gift in the history of the show, because not only is it self serving, it's self promotional. I opened it already. It was a it was a prank on top of all of this. I am this is so sorry. 00:47:21 Speaker 3: How does this even happen? 00:47:22 Speaker 4: I don't know. I can tell you I again, I want to plug the lovely person who gave me these for free. And I'm guarantee this is a once in a lifetime mistake. 00:47:34 Speaker 3: I hope there are two naked lip bombs at your home right now in just a ziploc bag. You couldn't couldn't part with the ball itself. 00:47:43 Speaker 4: If I just if I on, oh my god, if I basically neutered the lip bombs by myself and then just brought you the case, I remembers, this is actually perfect. 00:47:58 Speaker 3: I can put a vial of poison in it. 00:48:00 Speaker 4: Yes, this is very When your partner, when I'm ready to kill my partner, ready to kill your partner if he starts getting if he starts towing the line of over bickering at dinner. 00:48:09 Speaker 3: I pull this out, I open it. Yes, tap tap tap into the water and then wait, this is actually an incredible spy device. This is a great spi device. 00:48:19 Speaker 4: If you ever, if you ever start doing drugs like cocaine, you could put some cocaine in there. 00:48:24 Speaker 3: I guess absolutely, just snort it right out of the top, death immediately. But I truly feel like if James Bond would just not be deeply homophobic, he could have this in his little purse. 00:48:37 Speaker 4: Yes, oh my god, you can put some little pills in there. Maybe pills give me like hills Cyanai anthrax, anthracks. Jewelry, tiny tiny jewelry, you know. 00:48:48 Speaker 3: Like a light necklace, a light chain. Yeah, gold chain in case you don't want to wear it. I'm excited to see what you do with this. There's simply nothing I can well won't be going on my. 00:48:57 Speaker 4: Lips, won't be going on your list. 00:49:01 Speaker 3: This is incredible. I've never seen something like this happen. I mean, either that is like what manufacturer. 00:49:07 Speaker 4: Now I'm gonna say, Tyler, now, this is not Tyler spar Is is you is a craftsman among among men, and this is not usually in fact, I blame me, I blame no. 00:49:20 Speaker 3: Everybody should trust Tyler Sparr. I don't know him, yes, and I've never had a good experience with him, Let's just be very clear, being my one experience has been bad. Yeah, but we all make mistakes, and he may have known what you were going. 00:49:33 Speaker 4: To do with these. 00:49:34 Speaker 3: He may have known he didn't want to wasted on this. You know he thinks bridge of wininggger sucks. Don't give him. 00:49:40 Speaker 4: Lip bull or he knew you didn't want gifts. 00:49:42 Speaker 3: Oh, interesting, So it was carrying a move of, you know, deep caring. 00:49:46 Speaker 4: This is a Max Original doc series that we're gonna have to get deep into. This is at least six episodes. 00:49:53 Speaker 3: I know someone's asked you this, but have you always hated gifts? 00:49:57 Speaker 4: I always? 00:49:58 Speaker 3: I do deeply, Just like opening gift in front of another person, I think I get from my mom to the like, oh, I can't believe you did something for me. 00:50:06 Speaker 4: I realized this. 00:50:07 Speaker 3: I'm like realizing it's not a healthy attitude. Well, I get it, though, I certainly get it. 00:50:12 Speaker 4: I get why it's like you should you we as humans should evolve to maybe feel worthy of a gift, right, but maybe you're all you're it sounds like you're more so saying the expectation of the reaction is too much. 00:50:27 Speaker 3: That's tough. Yeah, both things are difficult for me. I'm I'm good at reacting well, uh what, regardless of what the gift is. But I almost always feel bad that the person did something for me. Yeah what about you? 00:50:45 Speaker 4: Yeah, I share this unfortunately, Like it's so weird that I mean, I am attention seeking person. I'm comedian right. 00:50:53 Speaker 3: You're asking for things emotionally all the time. 00:50:56 Speaker 4: Yes, But then when it's my birthday, I get pretty I get pretty uncomfortable that people are giving me attention. And I couldn't exactly pinpoint why that I want attention in so many ways. I want so much attention, I need so much validation. But when it's someone says, okay, it's actually an appropriate time for you to get attention today, I go. 00:51:18 Speaker 3: A curl up. Do you throw yourself birthday parties? 00:51:22 Speaker 4: I do? But even those birthday parties, I feel like a pressure to make it a fun time for everyone else. 00:51:29 Speaker 3: Uh huh. I ruined birthday parties for myself. 00:51:31 Speaker 4: Yeah, what do you do? 00:51:32 Speaker 3: I feel bad because I'm like oh, I didn't get to give everyone the amount of tension they deserve exactly exactly, and I'm like, oh so now I night being like, oh now, everyone's mad that I was only able to talk for a couple of minutes. 00:51:43 Speaker 4: I know, I know. 00:51:45 Speaker 3: Do you do something at your home do you do it outside? I usually do it here. I send a very I've started sending emails with very strict rules. I like a party to end at eleven PM, and I say, I will ask you to leave. I love that. 00:51:59 Speaker 4: I love that. 00:51:59 Speaker 3: I love that, and eleven across. Maybe it was eleven thirty last year, but the time, the moment that happens, I'm showing people away, I'm saying it was clear in the email, We've all had a good time, go home. 00:52:12 Speaker 4: I love that. 00:52:13 Speaker 3: I do that all the time. 00:52:14 Speaker 4: Well, that's why I like throwing a party at David Buster's because hey, you can stay right I'm going home. I'm leaving David, Dave and or Buster will be here. 00:52:23 Speaker 3: But I've been day in the back room for years. 00:52:26 Speaker 4: But I agree. I love that my husband does something that is actually genius, where when he's done with people at the at at our house, it's both rude but also deeply real and funny where he'll just get up and go, ah, I'm going to bed, and it's that thing of like, it is funny, it is honest, but it is rude, right, and you just have to be like and bute. Always he always gets the same response. Everyone goes huh okay, like, okay. 00:52:58 Speaker 3: I think people, but it is a show talk to people, and I think they appreciate at least having a new feeling at a birthday part. I also think people, you know, flourish with boundaries. I do too, you know, especially at our age. Right. Yeah, it's just like I need to know what's going to be happening. I need every detail, so there's no guessing, no guesswork on my part. I'll be comfortable when it ends. I know when it begins. I know who's there. No wild cards for me. So what is your sex life like? Non existent? 00:53:31 Speaker 4: It's been decades, that's my partner. No, No, I know what you mean. I actually I agree. I am also like I like, I am a pretty risk averse person. I like some expectation. 00:53:44 Speaker 3: This is why I'm scared of drugs in general. 00:53:46 Speaker 4: Right, I like to know when the plane is landing, and so many times people say, we get on this plane, we don't know when it could. 00:53:55 Speaker 3: Be hours, yeah and day. I don't think that's for me. 00:53:58 Speaker 4: I would almost rather not get high then have a wonderful time getting high. 00:54:03 Speaker 3: Right, How do you the small bit of like, oh, this high has lasted for nine hours and I may never be sober again. 00:54:10 Speaker 4: How do you feel about drinking or like that? Does that sort of thing? Are you like, oh, yeah, I can do a thing and no i'll land or do I avoid? Do you avoid it because you don't know when you'll land? 00:54:20 Speaker 3: That for me, drinking in particular that it scares me of being out of control, because that's sort of out of control, is you know, the axhilearation aspect of it. I'm like, oh, that feels truly out of control. Whereas with like we it's just somebody gets really sleepy. Yeah, they're out of control as well, like they're a little goofy. Then they fall asleep. So that is. But as far as drinking goes, the idea of being drunk around other people terrifying, really absolute terror. 00:54:49 Speaker 4: So do you then you don't? 00:54:50 Speaker 3: No, I'll like, I'll have a drink at a Christmas party, you know, just a glass of wine or something. But outside of that, I'm just like that, what about you? 00:54:59 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm so coach, I really, I'm so god I'm boring you, no, But my biggest thrill is having two point two five drinks. For me, that's heaven because I know I'm tipsy, just a little bit loose, just a little bit loose, But I know I haven't lost control. I know I won't. My plans to go home won't be altered significantly, right, So for me, like people like you could get drunker, and I find very little joy in getting drunker. 00:55:31 Speaker 3: The other fear for me is that people will like that personality better. Oh my god, I'd be like, well we like this version of Bridger way more? What do we do? What do we do? That's a lifetime. I've been committed to that personality. I'll be drunk from the moment I wake up. 00:55:46 Speaker 4: I got that's fun to see. As an anxious person. I never thought about that, And now I've given you a whole new thing to be. 00:55:51 Speaker 3: Afraid of, anything to freak out about. There could be a much better version of you. One drink more, what tool do you? I don't I'm assuming you have. We all live with anxiety. What's one of your favorite. 00:56:04 Speaker 4: Pop psychology tips dealing with anxiety? 00:56:07 Speaker 3: Interesting? I mean, I think there's the being in the moment. There's the especially right now, of everything feels so unbelievably out of control, and there's always something in me of like, oh, I need to fix this. I can fix this. And then if I can just focus for a minute and be like, what is my actual reality right now? It seems to be okay, yeah, which is not like, oh, now I'm not going to do anything, but it's like, at least I'm not completely spiraling, and I can control things totally. I mean, and the more recent help I've had in my brain. I mean, let's not get too into the weeds with how horrible it is, but I'm like, if the worst happens, if this country is so stupid that they allow Donald Trump to be president again, my friends will still be my friends, my reality will continued to exist in some way mm hmm, and then we'll start from there. 00:57:04 Speaker 4: Yeah. 00:57:04 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not gonna just be obliterated immediately. Your life will still be your life, and if you live here, your life will probably still be your life. For the time being, For the time being, what is your what's your coping mechanism? Yeah, that's a good question. It's similar. 00:57:18 Speaker 4: I usually when I have anxiety, I usually let myself go like, Okay, you're tremendously anxious, so guess what the next sixty minutes, free pass. Next sixty minutes, you can watch YouTube, you can eat chocolate, you can like I I that really helps me to go free pass. Like you are, You're just going to be anxious for a little bit. Nothing's gonna change it. So you're gonna need to be like really nice to yourself, maybe all day, but maybe it'll pass in an hour two hours. 00:57:51 Speaker 3: Yeah. See, for me, free pass just means free past to worry about other things. 00:57:56 Speaker 4: Yeah. 00:57:56 Speaker 3: I'm not even able to this point to be like okay, now I'll just lock onto something I enjoy because the anxiety is like am I enjoying this? And I'm like, oh, I've kind of I have to make sure that I'm enjoying the thing that I allowed myself to enjoy. Inescapable. It's capable. 00:58:08 Speaker 4: Let me ask you this question, how because this is you talking about your life and life changing and we'll see how stupid the country is when when someone says I'm moving to Canada, does that is that triggering for you in terms of like, and I'm actually almost asking all your listeners because someone basically was like, that's a really stupid thing to say because my partner's Japanese, and lately I've been like, it's fine, I'm moving to Japan right, right, And people have been bringing to my attention they're like, ah, that's kind of like a gross, nasty, little privileged thing to say. Uh huh when you say, like, I'm leaving countries, what do you think of that? 00:58:46 Speaker 3: I don't know that I you know, there's the part of it where it's like for me when I'll have those thoughts, it's like, yeah, but I'm in a position. I'm very fortunate to be in a position where like, if I stay here, I can at least change things for the at least in my immediate surroundings for the good. Try to do good things here rather than just running away from the problem. But I also am like people leave their countries for I mean, to come to the United States because things have gotten so bad in their country, Like when things get so bad in your country, Yeah, that's why people become immigrants because they need to get out. And fortunately this place hasn't become a total health scape. I mean there's a huge chunk of people that want it to be that, right, But give them. I mean like I don't want them to win. I don't want them more. 00:59:32 Speaker 4: I don't want them to win. Yeah, this is a really good thing because it's like I do not want them to win. And I mean we're due for some immigration. It's like, you know, people move to this country roughly two hundred one hundred years ago depending on when you're talking. But like for quote unquote a better life. That's not americacause America doesn't get to own that. 00:59:55 Speaker 3: No, no, no no. 00:59:56 Speaker 4: If this country gets bad, I get to find another say, oh look there's America. 01:00:02 Speaker 3: There's a better country. America has become the empty lip ball. 01:00:06 Speaker 4: I don't want no scrubs. Yes, you know what I'm saying. A scrub is a country who thinks it's fly. It's also known as a fascist place. But as I'm saying, is like why we exercise great personal strength when we're leaving bad relationships? Can't we leave bad countries? 01:00:28 Speaker 3: Right? 01:00:28 Speaker 4: Right? 01:00:29 Speaker 3: And that's where like I guess it gets complicated because it's like there are so many elements of this country that are still good and I don't want the worst of it to I think for me, it's just like a spike thing out of this at this point where I'm like, those people are the worst. No, I'm not letting you run over me. Eventually you might literally run over me, but until that moment, I will be doing everything I can to make your life a living hell. Totally. 01:00:53 Speaker 4: I think that's also incredibly valid. It's like this place was supposed to be like a promise of a really cool time, everyone being. 01:01:02 Speaker 3: Equal, and now it's getting scary scary. I don't know the answer. 01:01:07 Speaker 4: I'm literally it sounds so weird, but like I want your listeners to chime in and talk to me or you of like, yeah, how socially responsible is it to scream leave this country right? Or is that actually like something only a privileged person says and and something incredibly like politically inactive to say right? 01:01:24 Speaker 3: And then of course there will be the people who'll be like, well, this country has this problems and the blah blah blah blahlah. No, no country is perfect. 01:01:30 Speaker 4: It's like, of course, Yeah, can you believe I'm inviting podcasts people to scream at me? Inviting them my monos Instagram and you can find me at drag Her podcast available anywhere you find fine pods. 01:01:46 Speaker 3: But yeah, what was the point I was trying to make. Yeah, it's just like every country has its problems, but I feel like America is leading the world in new problems. Like we've we found the worst version of a president that may be elected again, and he's the devil. He's like not even hiding it from people. He did a horrible job from twenty sixteen to twenty twenty, led us into the worst thing in American history. 01:02:09 Speaker 4: Yeah, or at least modern America. Did edricate us on the problems, knew about the problem. 01:02:14 Speaker 3: Kind of just rubbed our face in it. 01:02:16 Speaker 4: He held us to eat bleach. Right, Let's see, he's had classified documents, led a violent insurrection. 01:02:25 Speaker 3: It's the sort of thing where it's just like, what sort of thing don't you like? He will offer it to you. He's done one of the things you don't like. Just p it's a buffet of horrible things. 01:02:33 Speaker 4: And I would also not even say like I remember even as early as two years ago, thinking like the Supreme Court will always be a beacon of objectivity. 01:02:42 Speaker 3: Oh so naive? Ooh, I was so naive. 01:02:46 Speaker 4: I was like, look, everything can be crazy, but those people mean what they. 01:02:51 Speaker 3: Say, right, those will be the adult sider. 01:02:53 Speaker 4: It was wrong. 01:02:53 Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, it's just I was wrong. It wasn't true. I was wrong. Okay, but I stick around. Let me stop being a bummer America for a little longer. I'll stick around for a little bit more. Hope. There's there's always hope. Have you been to Portland? 01:03:08 Speaker 4: There's hop. I don't know. I thought Portland was really cute when I went. 01:03:12 Speaker 3: When were you in Portland last? 01:03:14 Speaker 4: Only only a couple months ago. 01:03:16 Speaker 3: I've heard good things that I haven't been in about fifteen years. I thought it was really really fricking charming. 01:03:21 Speaker 4: Good food, good queer vibes, kind of an and not like you know, every demographic of queer people. I felt were represented in mixed spaces, which always makes my heart very happy. 01:03:31 Speaker 3: Of course. Yeah, good food, not far from nice beaches, nice beaches, male strip clubs, incredible male strip club What more could you ask for? 01:03:43 Speaker 4: Where the men say, hey, can I take you to the champagne room, which was like have you ever had a hat? 01:03:48 Speaker 3: I've never been to a male strip club meet. Yeah, this was my first time. But it wasn't just go go boys. 01:03:53 Speaker 4: It was men dancing and then coming to do the fake flirt with you and then saying can I give you a dance? 01:03:59 Speaker 3: That's an incredible he's kind of interest, very forward thinking. 01:04:02 Speaker 4: It was a little bit of both. It was both like it felt like Disney World because like it was like, well, I I fundamentally understand that you do not want to sleep with me, but it also feels rude to deny that fantasy. 01:04:15 Speaker 3: Right, this is your job exactly, so it's rude for me. 01:04:19 Speaker 4: I'll just say like fuck, you don't fucking want to, It's like I have to. It's like Mickey Mouse, you're looking at the take a picture with Donald Duck Exactly, That's exactly it. You have to take the picture because it's actually like better decorum. 01:04:31 Speaker 3: There's a teen sweating in there. 01:04:32 Speaker 4: Yeah exactly. He's getting man very little slap his package in your face. 01:04:40 Speaker 3: No, Portland seems to be a beacon of hope. No, everywhere has a little pocket of there's people, there's hope, that's hope. 01:04:47 Speaker 4: That's hope. 01:04:47 Speaker 3: There's absolutely we can't give up. Can't let Katya Callister run the country? No, no, no, no oh. I think it's the listeners an absolute ball of ang idea at this point. If so, sorry, I don't know how this happens. I know the point of this podcast is to always avoid talking about the devil, but you know, times are tough. 01:05:10 Speaker 4: Times are tough, Times are tough. Before I let you go, what's who's your personal devil? Well, we have to play a game. We're gonna we're going to turn this around. Okay, good, I'm ready. 01:05:20 Speaker 3: We're playing Gift to a Curse. I need a number between one and ten from you. Eight. Okay. I have to do some light calculating. I mean, you've already done some disgusting self promotion. But you can continue, you can recommend something, do whatever you want. I'll be right back. 01:05:36 Speaker 4: Okay. I don't know if you'll have heard of this yet, but there's a podcast that talks about drag Race, and since I am doing the Gaylord's work, you might want to hear this podcast. Whether we're talking about drag Race, or whether you're watching drag Race or not. You can tune in because it's always just a good gay time. Go listen to drag Her wherever you get podcasts, and you know, I want to hear you chime pipe off in those comments, pipe off on the Apple podcast because whether you like it or hate it, I will read your review on the air. Wow. 01:06:16 Speaker 3: Yeah, it takes a lot of guts. 01:06:18 Speaker 4: It does its kind of liberating. 01:06:20 Speaker 3: Yeah, like just saying this has no power over me. 01:06:23 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's really liberating just to read the meanest comment about yourself. It's like hack, unfunny, not interesting, should die? Should die? Thank you? And then it feels also good to just say thank. 01:06:36 Speaker 3: Thank you for that, thank you for thinking of me. It takes a lot of work to go give it Apple to of course, you've got to have an account, You've got to get this app open. It takes a lot. Yes, you got to think about what you're gonna write. Yes, and you know that's what I like. I welcome it. And democracy. 01:06:52 Speaker 4: Everybody register to vote, democracy, register to vote. Your voice is valid, her vote. I'll probably mail in my vote. Feels great. 01:07:00 Speaker 3: Yeah, I want to mail in my vote for sure. Then I don't have to go anywhere on election day. 01:07:04 Speaker 4: Yeah, can just remain as calm as possible watch Pixar movies. 01:07:10 Speaker 3: Yes, eat cool Whip, I'm not eating it. I'm not a cool whip person. 01:07:14 Speaker 4: Really. I like a real whip cream. Yeah, I agree, But I also like a premium dessert. So I don't know why I am at cool Whip. 01:07:22 Speaker 3: Cool Whip has its fans, and I understand what. It's just not my cup of tea. 01:07:25 Speaker 2: You know. 01:07:26 Speaker 4: Baking with Ish. I'm gonna give a plug to baking. This awesome baker in the SGV area who is at Blossom Market Hall, Okay whatever, He's an awesome baker. You can follow his Instagram. He makes really awesome delicious treats. Oh like that have like a lot of times they have like a Filipino fusion twist, but not always. Sometimes it's just like sometimes it'll be like an ube lemon meringue tarts. 01:07:58 Speaker 3: Oh that sounds lovely. 01:08:00 Speaker 4: Or sometimes it's just the best damn chocolate chip cookie you've ever had. You've got a variety, Yeah, you have a variety. Baking with Ish, Baking with Ish, everybody baking with Dish. 01:08:09 Speaker 3: Go there, go there, I'm gonna go there. What can I recommend Cassandra Jenkins. You know who this is. She has a new album. Oh, everybody go look up Cassandra Jenks. 01:08:20 Speaker 4: She's unbelievable. You would like her, Okay, it'd be into her for sure. Okay, here's my trash recommendation. Do you like the new Kesha song joy Ride? 01:08:28 Speaker 3: Haven't heard it yet? Okay, should probably listen to it? 01:08:30 Speaker 4: You should. 01:08:31 Speaker 3: It feels like gain is Okay, you know what I mean? Right, of course it's good. It's insane, but it's also good. Okay. It's up against the Katie Perry thing that everybody immediately was like. 01:08:41 Speaker 4: No, hilarious. 01:08:43 Speaker 3: I call her pop Karen. 01:08:45 Speaker 4: Um. She is problematic, she's not in control. He makes it very clear what she's about. Wow, Katie, Katie pop Karen. Okay, this is how we play gift to a curse. Okay, I'm gonna name three things, so you're gonna tell me if there are a gift or a curse and why? Okay, and then I'll tell you if you're right or wrong, because there are correct answers. 01:09:06 Speaker 3: You can be wrong. I fail. Oh, boundaries, boundaries were setting clear boundaries for you to succeed or fail, and it will be entirely your fault if you fail. 01:09:15 Speaker 4: I accept this. 01:09:15 Speaker 3: My hands are clean. 01:09:16 Speaker 4: I accept this. 01:09:17 Speaker 3: Okay, First stup, This is from a listener named Jessica Gift or a curse moody slashed slow down covers of pop hits. 01:09:25 Speaker 4: Wow, curse. 01:09:29 Speaker 3: Why this was? 01:09:31 Speaker 4: I was torn because I've certainly enjoyed some of these, But at the end of the day, it's a curse because this is a plague upon new pop music. Like it's like we're so music is like music is suffering right now, Like everything is so derivative of sampling and the nineties. It's like there's no new music. So at the end of the day, I have to say, curse. Okay, what do you think? What was the correct answer? 01:09:59 Speaker 3: You're correct? Oh, the dumbest thing you could possibly do. If you need something moody or slow, pick one of a billion other songs. 01:10:07 Speaker 4: Yeah, remember when every horror movie did it for their trailer. It's so ridiculous. 01:10:11 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's like a choir of children singing the song, Yes, acquiring Children. 01:10:16 Speaker 4: Yeah, I was gonna say, or a slowed down version of a Gautier's Now you're just somebody that I used. 01:10:22 Speaker 3: To know, do you know what I want to hear slowed down in moody is uh, what's that song Blue Babadida? 01:10:27 Speaker 4: Hell yeah, what's that one? Apost sixty five is Blu Dabadi dabad If you slowed that down from their hit album Europop, put that over a horror trailer now that I'm on board with, Yes, you gotta pick the right upbeat number. It would be about vampire people or would it be about aliens, maybe corpses rising up the blue corpses of maybe they're from the ocean, their frozen. 01:10:52 Speaker 3: Come on, it writes itself, that's hot. Okay, until that has been done, it's it's a curse. But I mean the genre is could turn things around. So hopefully there's some trailer editor somewhere listening thinking I've got my song. Okay, okay, so you've gotten one right so far, that's very good. Number two This is from someone named Robert Gift her a curse Audience Q and a's curse. 01:11:19 Speaker 4: Why I one time saw an audience Q and A with the very, the very genius Amy Sedaris. Oh and you know Amy Sidarius. Unfortunately is her her Her fans run the gamut, and some of her fans suck. And I was at one such Q and A where people kept asking weirdo questions like one person and she's asking, she's answering thoughtful questions about her childhood, her brother, her relationship to comedy, and people kept raising their hands. One guy in particular, I'll never forget, raised his hand to ask, uh, Jerry. 01:12:03 Speaker 3: Said, Jerry or Amy whatever. 01:12:04 Speaker 4: But he was like, how do you spell fandango? 01:12:09 Speaker 3: How do you spell victory? 01:12:10 Speaker 2: Oh? 01:12:11 Speaker 4: No? And she was like what He was. 01:12:13 Speaker 3: Like, victory? How do you spell victory? Oh my god? 01:12:16 Speaker 4: And she was like, oh, oh, fandango, fandango. And then he was like, oh, so that would be mortified. 01:12:26 Speaker 3: I wouldn't be able to leave my seat. I would just be ash. The secondhand embarrassment for that person that is mortifying. 01:12:35 Speaker 4: It was awful. So that's when I and you, literally just you saying that went took me back. 01:12:39 Speaker 3: To that moment and you took me there. I took it. That's why I think it's a curse. Oh that poor woman. Yeah, to be hounded by that sort of person, that. 01:12:48 Speaker 4: Kind of person who is just like, I'm actually being a real person and talking to you can Yeah, I get it. 01:12:53 Speaker 3: I said my TV show. Yeah, so humiliating. I mean, look, I've given it the answer away. Yeah, they're the worst thing in the world. 01:13:04 Speaker 4: All. 01:13:04 Speaker 3: I don't care if it's the creator of the universe. 01:13:06 Speaker 4: I know. 01:13:07 Speaker 3: I don't want to be stuck in an audience where strangers are going to have a microphone. No, I've never enjoyed one. It always goes way longer. There's always the ten second pause where it feels like we get to go home, yeah, and then somebody traps you again. 01:13:20 Speaker 4: Yep. Yes. Also someone recently with Elizabeth Berkeley at the Academy Museum, huh, because they were showing show growth at the Academy Museum. Guess what that also attracted shock the unique people. 01:13:32 Speaker 3: There's always someone trying to prove something that they know about the person exactly. It's rarely like an intelligent, interesting question that you'll get a good answer. There's nothing good about them. I wasn't one recently, kind of against my will, so that's even worse. Yeah, but there were no questions being asked because no one was interested in what was being shown, and it felt like we were going to get to go home, and then the creator said, come on, ask some questions. If you have to say that to an audience a few, that's a pretty clear sign that no one is interested in asking questions. Oh, agony, absolute hell. 01:14:09 Speaker 4: Like the creator last I'm sure I didn't like him to begin with. I was there against my will, amen, and I really sealed the deal on this person. 01:14:17 Speaker 3: Can't wait to hear this is lat But yeah, audience Q and A is nothing good comes from them except for an extended period of time after whatever you just enjoyed. 01:14:26 Speaker 4: It's like watching two people masturbate. Yes, you're watching the question ask for masturbate. You're watching the man answering the question masturbate. 01:14:34 Speaker 3: No, it's like watching the person on stage get trapped in an alley and with the person masturbating. 01:14:39 Speaker 4: Yeah. Awful, awful, horrible experience, disgusting, vile piece of human culture. 01:14:46 Speaker 3: Okay, so you've gotten too right. That's very nice. Yes, okay. Final one This is from someone named John Gift to a curse when someone uses your driveway to back up and turn around because they got lost. I really like that suggestion. A. 01:15:01 Speaker 4: I mean, we were talking about the strangers today. I'm gonna I'm just my gut says curse. I don't see how it could be a gift. I mean those again, those ten seconds of anxiety is no, I'm so sorry, but it's a curse. 01:15:18 Speaker 3: Oh mono, Oh what a shame to see you fall on your face in the final it's a gift, Tell me more gift. You get to do a little piece of you know, charity work with nowhere you don't have to lift a finger. Oh, my driveway is your driveway. That's really baseline. We get that. Remember, you get a little maybe you do get spooked. An old pickup truck rambles into the backyard. You're like, what's gonna coming? What is happening? Why are they backing in? What do they have planned? 01:15:51 Speaker 4: Uh? 01:15:52 Speaker 3: Your heart is pounding, your sweating, you're watching. 01:15:55 Speaker 4: Just you and let me get this right. They're backing in or going forward because one is scarier. 01:16:01 Speaker 3: Well, it seems like they can do well. This is specifically uses your driveway to back up and turn around. Even scarier. 01:16:08 Speaker 4: Even scarier if someone was going into my driveway butt first, as if they're ready to load the cargo bay of their truck with my body, that's even scarier. But I accept that I'm wrong. I do accept that. 01:16:22 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a I mean, there's no question that it's a gift, and for you to just kind of stupidly say that it's a curse is embarrassing. Yeah, we can't edit that, Aisle. It's now part of the public record. And yeah, unfortunately, now you're kind of solely as a podcaster. Yeah, that's people can't trust you anymore. 01:16:40 Speaker 4: Before this, everyone was tuning in subscribing to drag her, and now they're like, wait a second, this guy's a fucking moron. 01:16:47 Speaker 3: I've been duped. 01:16:50 Speaker 4: Well, you got two out of three. I feel good about that. Not too bad, No, I feel great about that. Well, look, don't run away like that. You're like, it's sixty six percent. It's a failing. 01:17:02 Speaker 3: Yeah. This is the final segment of the podcast. It's called I Said no emails. People write into I Said no gifts at gmail dot com. Okay, every one of them is just howling and begging for answers about something in their life. Will you help me answer a question? 01:17:16 Speaker 4: Absolutely, one of these banshees. Let's let's let's let's silence one of these creatures. 01:17:21 Speaker 3: Okay, let's get into the dog here. Okay, this is dear, completely correct oh this is nice, dear, completely correct bridger and always entertaining guests. That's for debate, but I don't know about today. Let me start by saying, I try to respect other people's time and apologize for taking up your valuable time with this dilemma. Wow, just immediately apologizing, Yeah, I appreciate it. My problem is I am always vexed with someone when someone calls without texting first, many friends parentheses. Most x mostly ex friends now only call when it's convenient for them while walking the dog, standing in lines, or when needing something. I respond by always being respectful of their time and texting first to ask if this is a good time to call. I can always ditch disrespectful friends, but it's harder to ditch a sibling. Over the years, my sister continues to call only when it suits her schedule, when driving in cars, waiting in the Starbucks lines, or hauling multiple horses on a busy. For you, we'll have to take a look at whatever that means. Of course, I have asked her to text first before calling, but she is somewhat adhd and never really listens. My question is this, Do I let go of this generalized annoyance and wrath or is my rage justified such a big fan and always listening Lisa from Seattle or maybe Liza from Seattle. I think those are the two options. With an l I Z A l I. I guess it might be Liza, Liza with a Z, Liza Liza Losa, Laza Lazza. 01:18:52 Speaker 4: And sometimes Liza with a Y. I really think it's okay to call. 01:18:57 Speaker 3: You think it's okay to call without a text? 01:19:00 Speaker 4: Okay, here's my I think there are two etiquette rules in the year of twenty twenty four, text before you call or text after you call? Oh? 01:19:07 Speaker 3: Interesting? And what is the after call? Text? 01:19:09 Speaker 4: If you do if you call them they don't answer, go hey, no big deal, but call me back. I just wanted to catch up, okay, So that then sets an expectation for the person just called, so they're not on edge of like, oh, fox, someone just called me. 01:19:21 Speaker 3: Right, what's the emergency? Right? 01:19:23 Speaker 4: Who's hurt? I think both were call text before or text after in the year of twenty twenty four. 01:19:29 Speaker 3: Okay, interesting, and you know I think no text is needed okay for me? If someone texts can I call you? It actually makes the call seem more serious. 01:19:40 Speaker 4: I agree. 01:19:40 Speaker 3: Actually, then there's like, oh god, what do they have to talk about? Yeah, awful feeling. Yeah, I would rather just give me a buzz I'll answer or not leave a voicemail, feel free, text after, do whatever you want, don't leave just a mist call. Texting after is good, voicemail is good, But to text beforehand. I'm not on your side at all. Lisa, Liza Lisa. I think this person is actively trying to remove friends from her life. She's deeply unpopular. Now she's going to lose a sibling who she's diagnosed with ADHD on a podcast, which to me is I mean, it's such a line cross. It seems like, I mean, what is Liza Lisa doing that's so important that she can't just get a call? 01:20:25 Speaker 4: I have to agree. I have to agree you can get a call. 01:20:29 Speaker 3: Appreciate that there's somebody out there with your phone number. 01:20:32 Speaker 4: I wonder what their age is, because I think that, you know, obviously the younger and the younger. Younger and younger people find calls more and more obtrusive. 01:20:40 Speaker 3: You think, so, I feel like there's a turnaround happening. 01:20:43 Speaker 4: Maybe maybe, But I mean, I'll be honest. I still when I get a call like I usually get excitement unless I it is one of the two, excitement or dread, not right in the middle. 01:20:57 Speaker 3: That's kind of how I live my life at this point, checking the absolute best thing to happen or the absolute worst. Not able to moderate my feelings in any way. Absolutely, Yeah, Yeah, I can't. 01:21:07 Speaker 4: I can't. I'm unreliable, I'm topsy turvy. But okay, I think we can both agree. Text after a call is nice. 01:21:17 Speaker 3: Yes, leave a text or send a Do you like a voice note? Voice message? 01:21:21 Speaker 4: I would love that. 01:21:22 Speaker 3: I love those. 01:21:23 Speaker 4: A voice memo is even better than a voicemail. We can agree on that. 01:21:27 Speaker 3: Oh that's what I was talking about. H Yeah, I think that's kind of the future. Yeah, just send your thoughts, record your miniature podcast for whoever. 01:21:36 Speaker 4: Why and that that you just yeah, because voicemails are more aggressive than voice memos. 01:21:40 Speaker 3: Right, because the voicemail feels like, oh, you've wounded me and now I'm going to leave you with something, whereas the voice memo is I'm just thinking of you. I'm sending you, yes a message. Maybe I'm driving a little gift, right, maybe you know, they're more entertaining. Yeah, gotta keep the time limit down. 01:21:58 Speaker 4: I agree. 01:21:59 Speaker 3: So just call or call then text yes, or send several angry voice memos that too, one after another. Don't complete thoughts, just keep recording and sending. 01:22:09 Speaker 4: Mid scream, ending a voicemament mid scream is great. You what, That's fantastic if you can. 01:22:17 Speaker 3: Do that, Lise, Eliza, I think you've got your answer there. Take some phone calls, enjoy the spontaneity of just your phone ringing, see what's on the other end, even if they're just using you emotionally. 01:22:30 Speaker 4: Absolutely, you can be used. My God, be glad that anyone's calling you. 01:22:35 Speaker 3: You could be very lonely. 01:22:36 Speaker 4: You could be very lonely. 01:22:38 Speaker 3: You could, you know what, Liza, don't write back, man, No, I've had such a wonderful time, man, I mean, despite being given to trick lipsticks absolutely worthless to you, to kind of just empty little boxes. 01:22:58 Speaker 4: I do hope you'll throw them away. 01:23:00 Speaker 3: They will not be thrown away. Oh, these will be kept, to be kept and to be displayed. 01:23:05 Speaker 4: That's very kind of you to say. But it's okay if you change your mind. 01:23:08 Speaker 3: I won't. I mean, there's a chance at a live show. At some point I give one to an audience member. 01:23:12 Speaker 4: Good. 01:23:13 Speaker 3: But you know this could have a utility and being a container. 01:23:17 Speaker 4: You know there are women who want to make their own lipsticks oh interesting and put them in cases. 01:23:23 Speaker 3: Maybe that's what I do my pivot. That's what this is to lipstick manufacturing. 01:23:27 Speaker 4: It's really funny. No, it's been such a damn tree. Thank you so much for. 01:23:30 Speaker 3: Having Thank you for being here, listener. Podcast is over. I hope you've been able to just pull yourself together. I know that we've been had some real lows on this episode talking about the world. But everything's fine. The podcast is over. Try to remain calm. 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