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Speaker 2: But you're a guess to my home.

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Speaker 1: You gotta come to me empty. And I said, no,

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Speaker 2: So how do you dare to surbey mean, welcome to?

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Speaker 3: I said, no gifts. Temperature wineger, We're in the backyard.

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Speaker 3: The temperature is tolerable.

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Speaker 4: For now.

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Speaker 3: What's happening. I went to Costco yesterday and used my

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Speaker 3: let's get into the podcast. I adore today's guest. It's

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Speaker 3: Mono Agapion Mono. Oh, welcome to, I said, nod.

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Speaker 4: Oh my god, thank you for pivoting. You just did

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Speaker 3: It's kind of a news anchor urn. It's time to

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: You delivered the beginning to almost to the wall and

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Speaker 4: then turned. It was really dramatic.

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Speaker 3: I'm imagining an entire arena of people in front of

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Speaker 3: me just screaming and chanting and on where you're That's

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Speaker 4: You're talking about Waterloo and I had something to say

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Speaker 3: On only's got very mad.

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Speaker 4: I've never seen so much anger in a person.

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Speaker 3: Rage. Yeah, but yeah, we were saying.

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Speaker 4: I was saying, flavor forward.

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Speaker 3: Flavor forward probably the most of any sparkling beverage, I

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Speaker 3: rest of these companies following suit? They're cowards, They're cowards. Ultimately,

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Speaker 3: Lacroix is cowering. Yes, absolutely, what other brands are there?

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Speaker 3: There's what's your favorite Waterloo flavor?

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Speaker 3: crying cowards, spineless, bobbly, bubbly. There's the Target brand.

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Speaker 4: Coffee, good pastries or something.

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Speaker 3: They have a small pastry case that's almost always empty

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Speaker 4: And by the time I get there, it's always gone

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Speaker 3: Oh well, they might. Today they had some sort of

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Speaker 3: of group of men meeting.

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Speaker 4: He's like, he's better at having tough conversations and I'm

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Speaker 3: Oh okay, I grew up being like the least.

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Speaker 3: couch and the wall, but it's fine. That's my thing,

437
00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:11,320
Speaker 3: right how about you? Zero, I mean, there's absolutely no communication.

438
00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:14,480
Speaker 3: I think that is clear among every member of my

439
00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:19,240
Speaker 3: family where essential silence. God bless all of us. But

440
00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:22,680
Speaker 3: you know, coming into a relationship with somebody who came

441
00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:24,720
Speaker 3: from a family that is everything they've ever felt to

442
00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:28,000
Speaker 3: each other, it's an interesting It's been a learning curve

443
00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:30,040
Speaker 3: for me. It's like, oh, you can just say what

444
00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:35,600
Speaker 3: you're feeling whenever you want. Yeah, that's not a big deal. Yeah,

445
00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:39,479
Speaker 3: it's probably the healthier way of handling things.

446
00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:42,280
Speaker 4: Are things evolving in that family front or it's kind

447
00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:43,639
Speaker 4: of like we're going to let the family do what

448
00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:44,320
Speaker 4: they do best.

449
00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:48,760
Speaker 3: When we're all together, there continues to be an almost

450
00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:53,119
Speaker 3: a near silence. But individually, I think we can communicate

451
00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:56,160
Speaker 3: with each other going on one phone calls, that kind

452
00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:59,560
Speaker 3: of thing. If somebody's cornered and we you know, something

453
00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:01,440
Speaker 3: has to be said. I get that.

454
00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:03,600
Speaker 4: Do you feel this like with my family? I feel

455
00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:06,040
Speaker 4: frustrated because like the near how do I put this?

456
00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:09,320
Speaker 4: My family is almost like an episode of a sitcom

457
00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:13,600
Speaker 4: that resets every thirty minutes. So it's like there's.

458
00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:17,320
Speaker 3: A huge fight, everything's crazy, everyone hates each other. Then

459
00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:22,520
Speaker 3: there's a resolution, but that resolution lasts not but ten

460
00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:26,320
Speaker 3: seconds until the next episode streams. Like and I actually

461
00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:29,879
Speaker 3: find it more exhausting than if they were incredibly boring

462
00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:32,440
Speaker 3: and had nothing to offer. There's just like, I'll watch

463
00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:37,760
Speaker 3: what you wish for. There's exhaustion in both the categories.

464
00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:40,240
Speaker 3: I would say, sure, do you see your family often?

465
00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:42,600
Speaker 4: Ish? I would say a couple times a year, So

466
00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:44,040
Speaker 4: that feels like often to me.

467
00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:46,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's about where I am at this point. Yeah,

468
00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:48,240
Speaker 3: do they come here or do you go to them?

469
00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:51,680
Speaker 3: I always go to them, Okay, it's probably.

470
00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:53,200
Speaker 4: I kind of prefer it. Yeah, you have a little

471
00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:53,760
Speaker 4: more control.

472
00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:55,960
Speaker 3: They never come here, But I kind of love that.

473
00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:58,720
Speaker 4: I'm like butt hurt on one on the one end,

474
00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:00,720
Speaker 4: because I've lived in LA since two thousand and eight.

475
00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:02,560
Speaker 3: Right, they've never come here.

476
00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:02,840
Speaker 4: Never.

477
00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:04,440
Speaker 3: My brother has come here.

478
00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:07,960
Speaker 4: Okay, but but it's also like I but it's also

479
00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:09,440
Speaker 4: do I want them to come here? Kind of No,

480
00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:13,800
Speaker 4: certainly not some characters. There's characters who.

481
00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:17,040
Speaker 3: Are a little more work right, Yes, I can definitely

482
00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:18,880
Speaker 3: speak to that off podcast.

483
00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:19,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly.

484
00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:22,040
Speaker 3: Members of them I love having here. They listen to

485
00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:24,520
Speaker 3: your podcast, some of them do, yea.

486
00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:24,960
Speaker 4: Some of them.

487
00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:27,719
Speaker 3: My mom listens to a decent amount. My sister listens

488
00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:31,119
Speaker 3: to it, and then it's unclear who else is listening

489
00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:33,320
Speaker 3: at all times. So I think my family listened to

490
00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:36,600
Speaker 3: any of my podcast, Thank God, God, bless God, bless no.

491
00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:39,360
Speaker 3: I you know, I appreciate. I'm glad the people who

492
00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:43,280
Speaker 3: listen are the most understanding members. Yeah, patient, you know.

493
00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:47,159
Speaker 4: Letting you live authentically right without being censored, right, right,

494
00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:47,880
Speaker 4: it's important.

495
00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:50,720
Speaker 3: Have you seen Long Legs?

496
00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:53,640
Speaker 4: No, I haven't seen it, and I love horror.

497
00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:56,879
Speaker 3: Okay, I love horror. I haven't seen it, so we

498
00:23:56,920 --> 00:24:00,240
Speaker 3: could because talk about it there. I mean I want

499
00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:05,080
Speaker 3: to lower your I want to lower your expectations. Okay, okay, okay, okay,

500
00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:08,320
Speaker 3: we're yeah, they're low. I was not scared by this movie, okay,

501
00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:11,040
Speaker 3: but I think something might. About halfway through, I thought,

502
00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:14,880
Speaker 3: am I broken? Why is this not frightening? The very

503
00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:17,399
Speaker 3: beginning's frightening and then almost not scary at all for

504
00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:18,520
Speaker 3: the rest of the movie.

505
00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:20,520
Speaker 4: I do get that, I mean, aren't we We've all

506
00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:23,480
Speaker 4: been broken in a way like horror, and so many

507
00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:25,960
Speaker 4: horrible things have happened in life and in the world

508
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:29,040
Speaker 4: that Horror is has never been more camp.

509
00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:33,760
Speaker 3: Right, extremely camp and almost comfort Yeah, just like well, it's.

510
00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:37,239
Speaker 4: At least you know, there's a murderous clown trying to

511
00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:39,680
Speaker 4: shove me into a suer grade who.

512
00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:41,960
Speaker 3: Will eventually be contained by the end of the movie,

513
00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:43,240
Speaker 3: will hopefully be contained.

514
00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:45,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, so at least at least we know he goes

515
00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:50,240
Speaker 4: away for twenty seven years. That's comforting. No, but yeah,

516
00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:52,240
Speaker 4: I very much relate to what you're saying. It's like

517
00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:57,159
Speaker 4: a weird gift of having a traumatizing family. Is he

518
00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:02,400
Speaker 4: is like becoming such a stronger version of yourself. And

519
00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:06,080
Speaker 4: horror does feel like comedy to you? Did you watch Maxine?

520
00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:10,320
Speaker 3: I haven't seen. I just recently watched Pearl and X. Okay, okay, okay,

521
00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:14,200
Speaker 3: which I enjoyed but was again not scared. Yeah, okay,

522
00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:18,879
Speaker 3: were you scared by those movies? No, certainly not Pearl

523
00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:22,199
Speaker 3: No X. It's interesting. They're interesting movies. They're not so

524
00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:26,159
Speaker 3: much scary, right, They're more like tone or I'm not

525
00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:28,280
Speaker 3: quite sure. Like I enjoyed watching them, but I was like,

526
00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:31,160
Speaker 3: I don't even know what to describe that as VI. Yeah,

527
00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:34,760
Speaker 3: very vibe, very I guess kind of gothic or something.

528
00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:38,280
Speaker 3: It's just darkness. Mea gothic, be a gothic. Yeah, that's

529
00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:40,320
Speaker 3: her full name.

530
00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:42,600
Speaker 4: No, but yeah, it's kind of a vibe. So I'd

531
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:44,280
Speaker 4: be curious to see if you like it or not.

532
00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:48,439
Speaker 3: I mean the trailer definitely sends off an enormous vibe.

533
00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:52,919
Speaker 4: The vibe is immaculate. Okay, but quote my niece, no,

534
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:55,639
Speaker 4: but like the vibe is viby. But that's people are

535
00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:57,520
Speaker 4: bringing up the point that is it a movie?

536
00:25:57,960 --> 00:25:58,720
Speaker 3: Oh interesting?

537
00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:01,919
Speaker 4: Is it a movie or is it a vibe? Wow?

538
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:02,640
Speaker 3: That far?

539
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:05,480
Speaker 4: People go that far, And I mean that's really a

540
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:07,040
Speaker 4: fair question. But I got trick because I watched it.

541
00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:08,960
Speaker 4: I was like, that's a movie, and then someone was like,

542
00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:12,960
Speaker 4: I don't think it was. And then I went, oh,

543
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 4: maybe it wasn't.

544
00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:15,320
Speaker 3: Were you entertained? Yeah?

545
00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:16,360
Speaker 4: I was entertained for sure.

546
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:19,000
Speaker 3: That's all I ask for at this point. Yes, give

547
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,040
Speaker 3: me an hour and a half of me feeling something.

548
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:24,240
Speaker 3: You're gonna feel something, okay, and you're gonna feel gay

549
00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:26,160
Speaker 3: when you watch it. Okay, you're gonna be like, yes,

550
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:30,479
Speaker 3: I'm gay. You know it's right. I mean the trailer

551
00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:32,680
Speaker 3: makes that. That makes sense from the trailer.

552
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, is there's some real Hollywood inside bullshit too?

553
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,200
Speaker 3: Is it scary? Is there any like attempts at being scary.

554
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:41,320
Speaker 4: Mmmmm. I would think it's more of a thrill here

555
00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:45,160
Speaker 4: and there than truly scary. Okay, what's the scariest movie

556
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:47,240
Speaker 4: you've seen ever? Yeah?

557
00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:48,040
Speaker 3: The Strangers.

558
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:49,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a good one.

559
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:52,439
Speaker 3: It was awful. I mean it is such a The

560
00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:56,000
Speaker 3: first time, the feeling was so terrible. Yeah, I mean,

561
00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:59,640
Speaker 3: in a obviously effective way. It wanted me to feel scared.

562
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:04,000
Speaker 3: And the first time I started watching it about twelve

563
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:08,160
Speaker 3: forty five am alone. By the time they were knocking

564
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:10,359
Speaker 3: on the door, I had to turn it off. Yeah,

565
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:12,000
Speaker 3: I had to wait for someone else to be with

566
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:12,480
Speaker 3: me to.

567
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:14,320
Speaker 4: Watch the maker Gosh, you know, I have a huge

568
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:17,439
Speaker 4: criticism about that movie though. What the ending sucks? I

569
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:20,240
Speaker 4: can't remember the ending spoiler.

570
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:22,200
Speaker 3: One, two, three, four.

571
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:26,200
Speaker 4: Okay, they kill them and to me, oh, they kill

572
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:28,240
Speaker 4: the people who live in the house. Yeah, they live

573
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:33,960
Speaker 4: Tyler and Scott Speedman, Right, how rude? They're hot. People

574
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:36,359
Speaker 4: don't kill them, No, but they deserve to They deserve

575
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:38,400
Speaker 4: to live. But I mean, I argue, it's so much

576
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:40,240
Speaker 4: scarier to let them live.

577
00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:42,960
Speaker 3: Oh, you think it's scarier to let them live? Yes,

578
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:44,520
Speaker 3: let them live the trauma.

579
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:47,520
Speaker 4: Let them live, because that's their whole ethos They say,

580
00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:50,919
Speaker 4: why did you do this? Because you were home and

581
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:54,120
Speaker 4: their whole thing is the game. So it's way scarier

582
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:56,280
Speaker 4: to let them live. It's like killing them is completely

583
00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:57,240
Speaker 4: anti climactic.

584
00:27:58,040 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 3: Well do you know why. I think the reason they

585
00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:02,480
Speaker 3: say that is because this is my criticism of the movie.

586
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:05,320
Speaker 3: It says based on true events, and you know what,

587
00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 3: it's based on.

588
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:10,200
Speaker 4: Exactly the Sharon Tate murders, which yeah.

589
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:11,920
Speaker 3: I mean, it's just like, oh so it's just based

590
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:15,760
Speaker 3: on a concept of murder, like just it has nothing

591
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:18,320
Speaker 3: to do with the Manson family, right, But the reason

592
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:21,720
Speaker 3: Sharon Tate that situation unfolded, the reason she was killed.

593
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:22,800
Speaker 4: She wasn't the target, she.

594
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:28,120
Speaker 3: Was just there. They thought the Manson group thought they

595
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:30,399
Speaker 3: were going to kill somebody else. I didn't know this

596
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:32,760
Speaker 3: part of this, huh, So I think that that must

597
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:34,040
Speaker 3: be why I like at the end of it. And

598
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 3: that is a scary thing to say.

599
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:37,480
Speaker 4: That's a very scary thing to say. That's my my

600
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:39,360
Speaker 4: favorite part about the Manson family.

601
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:46,000
Speaker 3: We all have a favorite isolate that just that.

602
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:49,960
Speaker 4: The reason I will defend the Manson family till I die.

603
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 4: Creepy crawling, you're familiar with creepy.

604
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 3: Of course, what a scary thing to call it scary?

605
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 4: And if you're not familiar with that, that thing that

606
00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 4: they did where before they killed, they would sneak into

607
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:05,960
Speaker 4: people's homes, move something in a person's home, very obviously,

608
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:09,640
Speaker 4: just to un just to unsettle the people living in

609
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 4: that home. Oh, and to me, that's that's the core

610
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:15,360
Speaker 4: of the scare. It's like, killing isn't scary. Letting them

611
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:18,320
Speaker 4: live with this, living in a world where people creepy

612
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:19,000
Speaker 4: crawl is scary.

613
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:22,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, it just becomes torture because you can never escape. Then, yeah,

614
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 3: creepy crawling. And what a great branding of a thing.

615
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 4: Right, it became way I'm thirty eight, right, did you

616
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:29,880
Speaker 4: grow up with the creepy crawler?

617
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 3: Oh?

618
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:30,840
Speaker 4: Yeah? Oh?

619
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 3: Interesting, creepy crawlers. They must creepy crawlers must not have

620
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:38,480
Speaker 3: been aware of the Manson connection, were they? What's worse?

621
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 3: Was it a trade or didn't know? I think it

622
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:45,520
Speaker 3: was a secret training device for children somehow trying to

623
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:49,240
Speaker 3: breed the next generation of Manson's. Manson's the next generation.

624
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 4: And one of my favorite thing about that, the next

625
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 4: generation of Manson's.

626
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:59,520
Speaker 3: No, that's interesting. I wonder, I mean, creepy crawler. I

627
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:03,040
Speaker 3: wonder where that did that come? Pre Charles? Did he

628
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 3: take that from somebody else?

629
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:06,680
Speaker 4: Yeah?

630
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 3: Probably probably creepy crawling. Another favorite thing about the Manson

631
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 3: family is I believe that night they went to Denny's. Okay,

632
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:20,080
Speaker 3: amazing Denny's would embrace They should.

633
00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:24,600
Speaker 4: They should do a Manson family menu, just blood splattered PAMs,

634
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, some ligament.

635
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:30,200
Speaker 3: Burrito's over Manson or something.

636
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 4: Okay, Manson's. How do you feel about Shirley Manson Garbage?

637
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 4: Of course, we love Shirley Manson. We Scottish Chiro hero.

638
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 4: I love her so much.

639
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:41,840
Speaker 3: I you know, I've never really gotten into garbage that much,

640
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 3: but I love the band name of course, Yes, I

641
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:46,200
Speaker 3: love I feel like they put out. Isn't an album

642
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:47,480
Speaker 3: called absolute garbage?

643
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 4: Yes?

644
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:51,600
Speaker 3: I mean incredible, incredible to call an album of your

645
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 3: music absolute garbage is genius. Nothing better than that.

646
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 4: I love them.

647
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:57,120
Speaker 3: I love her. I met her twice.

648
00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 4: You met her twice when twice the first time was

649
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 4: I was creepy crawling. This is true. I was walking

650
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 4: by the Hollywood Tower. Okay, and Hollywood Tower used to

651
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 4: do these rooftop radio shows, and I knew my friend

652
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 4: lived there, so I was able to sneak into the

653
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 4: Hollywood Tower because I knew the door code. Okay, okay,

654
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 4: they were I was like, is someone playing garbage really loud?

655
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 3: I was like, it sounds stunning.

656
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:27,360
Speaker 4: No. It turns out they were doing the sound check

657
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 4: on the roof of the Hollywood Tower, and everything in

658
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 4: me said, oh, I'm this is a real moment. Am

659
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 4: I going to crash their soundcheck? Or am I going

660
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 4: to be a normal person? Yeah?

661
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:43,720
Speaker 3: You really find out how normal you are in this situation.

662
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 4: And I failed the test or I passed the test,

663
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 4: I don't know, but I creepy crawled up there. They

664
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 4: were sound checking and kind of singing songs, and I

665
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 4: lied right to her face and said, oh, I just

666
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:57,680
Speaker 4: I was. I'm a huge fan, but I live here

667
00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 4: in the building and I just heard heard you singing

668
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 4: when I grow up from my apartment, so I thought

669
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 4: I had to come see what's up. So I just

670
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 4: she assumed I was a normal person right living there?

671
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 4: And how was she delightful? Oh that's great, sweet, thoughtful,

672
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 4: asked questions I told her because also I had a

673
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 4: funny history with her.

674
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:19,040
Speaker 3: Where it was the first concert I went to.

675
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 4: Uh huh, and my sweet mom drove me to Myrtle

676
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:27,480
Speaker 4: Beach to the House of Blues Wow, to watch Garbage

677
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 4: when I was like thirteen.

678
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:32,720
Speaker 3: That is incredible. Was your mom at the show with you? Yeah? Incredible?

679
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 3: I know, just watching from the sidelines. That is so lovely.

680
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 4: It was really cute. So I told her that, and

681
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 4: she's and I can't do her gorgeous Glasgowegian accent. Sure,

682
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 4: she was like, oh, I love your mom, And how

683
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:47,800
Speaker 4: sweet that you have that memory.

684
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 3: That was the first time I met her. Okay, and

685
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:53,320
Speaker 3: let me ask one thing. Was she's sporting a red

686
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 3: lip at the time. I associate her with a strong

687
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:57,960
Speaker 3: red baby. I want to say yes, I have a

688
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 3: picture of it somewhere, but I want to say yes, Okay,

689
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 3: I feel like that's true. Right she rocks around? Okay, yeah,

690
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 3: that's kind of her signature.

691
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 4: That's the hair phase is you know that's short, the

692
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 4: short hair face, right, we don't remember the red What

693
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 4: color was it when you saw her? What are they blondish?

694
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 3: Oh? Interesting? What is she naturally? What's you're running from?

695
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 3: That's the big question?

696
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 4: Is she a real natural redhead? And when you see

697
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:24,000
Speaker 4: other natural redheads, do you go do you wink at them?

698
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 3: I think I have a blindness. Okay, I think I'm

699
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:30,360
Speaker 3: easily fooled by a hair dye, a wig with hair.

700
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 3: I just maybe I just see too much goodness in people.

701
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 3: I feel like no one's willing to deceive me, and

702
00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:38,480
Speaker 3: so wigs, hair color. I'm just like, I guess that's

703
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:41,760
Speaker 3: the real thing. I mean, the most, the most famous

704
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:45,440
Speaker 3: is Christina Hendrix. Oh, she's fake blonde.

705
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 4: I pulls it off.

706
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:49,600
Speaker 3: I'm aghast she pulls it off incredibly.

707
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 4: Does pull it off. Some people are meant to be red.

708
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 3: Yeah. I think she something went wrong universally. She was

709
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:58,000
Speaker 3: born blonde, but was able to locate what colors she

710
00:33:58,040 --> 00:33:58,720
Speaker 3: actually needed.

711
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 4: I have another dear friend who was like running from

712
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:04,680
Speaker 4: her redness her whole life, and then finally leaned into it.

713
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:06,640
Speaker 3: And obviously everyone around her.

714
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 4: Was like, oh, you're beautiful, and she was like, you know,

715
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:13,880
Speaker 4: almost frustrated. She was like, I know, why have I

716
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:14,759
Speaker 4: been running from this?

717
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 1: Well?

718
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:18,399
Speaker 3: The thing is is you can't run from red. Red

719
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:20,440
Speaker 3: hair is one redheaded people are the one people who

720
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:23,399
Speaker 3: can't dye their hair without it looking strange or like, oh,

721
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:27,160
Speaker 3: something's off. Yeah, you can go red. Yeah, you simply

722
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 3: can't go from red to something else. It's just unless

723
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:33,719
Speaker 3: you're like going into I mean, the only you have

724
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 3: to go darker, sure, or you look sick and I'm

725
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 3: you know, I've never had a gothic phase or any

726
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:42,480
Speaker 3: time where I felt like, oh I need to be

727
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:44,360
Speaker 3: a darker version of myself.

728
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:44,600
Speaker 1: Yeah.

729
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:49,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, let's get back to Shirley Manson.

730
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:52,759
Speaker 4: That's She's great. I feel like I've derailed yourself. I've

731
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:56,080
Speaker 4: derailed your entire podcast. I feel this podcast should be

732
00:34:56,080 --> 00:35:00,840
Speaker 4: called derailed the entire there's I've never been an episode

733
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 4: of this podcast that was on rail. Okay, but I

734
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:06,279
Speaker 4: need to hear the second surely. Okay. This that one

735
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:08,560
Speaker 4: was more funny because.

736
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 3: This time you were in her home.

737
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:13,279
Speaker 4: I wish I wish.

738
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:14,839
Speaker 3: It was in her smelling her hair.

739
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 4: No, but her goddaughter, who's a lovely comedian named Ruby.

740
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:21,280
Speaker 3: Her goddaughter took.

741
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:22,280
Speaker 4: My improv class.

742
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:25,279
Speaker 3: Oh my god, and came to an improv class of

743
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 3: mine wearing a garbage sweater and I was like, oh,

744
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 3: I love garbage.

745
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:31,240
Speaker 4: Oh. And then she said, oh, my dad's in the band,

746
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:33,799
Speaker 4: And I said, and of course I tried to I

747
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 4: didn't I didn't even play it cool.

748
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 3: And I was like, what the fuck are you saying

749
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:38,279
Speaker 3: to me? Are you fucking kidding me?

750
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:43,279
Speaker 4: This band that like actually raised me, you're the offspring

751
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:44,719
Speaker 4: of the band that raised me.

752
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 3: And then she was like ha haha. Yes.

753
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:49,279
Speaker 4: I was like that's amazing, that's so cool, and she's like, yeah,

754
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 4: surely man said my godmother. I was like, wow, lucky horror.

755
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 3: How many people have a godmother with merch?

756
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 4: I know, the big question, I know. And then she

757
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:01,400
Speaker 4: was like, oh, yeah, she's gonna come to my improv

758
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:03,200
Speaker 4: because I was teaching improp one to one. She's like,

759
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 4: she's gonna come to the improv one on one grad

760
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:08,719
Speaker 4: show and I was like oh, and I it took

761
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:10,759
Speaker 4: everything in me to be like, because the other thing

762
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 4: is like that day is not about me, well, sometimes

763
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:16,279
Speaker 4: it has to be. It's not it has to be.

764
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:20,720
Speaker 4: It wasn't about me, and and because it was about

765
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 4: everyone else, and I was very selfless and but then

766
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 4: one of the assholes someone in the audience recognized her

767
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:29,320
Speaker 4: and gave the improv suggestion garbage.

768
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 3: Oh You've got to be kidding.

769
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 4: Which was and I saw Shirley Manson go like touch

770
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:37,799
Speaker 4: her brow in frustration of like, can you fucking please

771
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 4: leave me?

772
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:39,360
Speaker 3: And I live my life and.

773
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 4: Then let me enjoy my lovely goddaughter's improv show and

774
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:45,720
Speaker 4: let her enjoy her performance without you being a creep

775
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:47,320
Speaker 4: all those things.

776
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:49,520
Speaker 3: And I met her after the show again and it

777
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:52,879
Speaker 3: was really nice. I mean, unless Ruby planted that. I mean,

778
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:55,439
Speaker 3: I think Ruby wants garbage to be She's wearing the merch.

779
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:58,279
Speaker 3: She is out there kind of trying to promote the

780
00:36:58,280 --> 00:36:59,440
Speaker 3: band Ruby.

781
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:03,840
Speaker 4: Ruby has a secret Ruby shout out to Ruby, Wow.

782
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:05,239
Speaker 3: I wonder what your third meeting will be.

783
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 4: Like, Oh god, I hope it's why, Oh my god. Okay,

784
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:12,319
Speaker 4: here's my dream. I've successfully cast Shirley Manson in my

785
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 4: comedy pilot, where she gets to play a dismissive, rude

786
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 4: boss of some kind.

787
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:21,759
Speaker 3: She would be so good at that. She weirdly did

788
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:24,440
Speaker 3: in the Terminator TV show. I didn't know she acted.

789
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 4: She acted, Yeah, she was in this Terminator TV show

790
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 4: from the early mid odds. Well she goes strange. Yeah wow,

791
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 4: oh yeah she was. I'm biased.

792
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 3: Did she play a Scottish person?

793
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 4: I don't remember. I want to say she used her

794
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:42,720
Speaker 4: natural accent. Okay, okay, yeah, Scottish terminator, Scottish Terminator's nothing

795
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 4: worse than when an actor with quite a thick accent

796
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:46,759
Speaker 4: goes American.

797
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:50,719
Speaker 3: Well do you think it's uh? I feel like they're

798
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:53,759
Speaker 3: able to pull it off again. But maybe this goes

799
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 3: back to me just believing anything anyone ever does.

800
00:37:56,400 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 4: I think you're kinder than me. Whereas okay, it's and

801
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:02,840
Speaker 4: specifically I need to shut up. But I was in Canada,

802
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 4: I was on set. I was on set, and this

803
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 4: is a show that's supposed to take place in the South.

804
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:12,400
Speaker 3: Okay, well we have Canadian actors. Oh, I mean you

805
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:15,279
Speaker 3: can't run from a Canadian accent. That will there will

806
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:17,280
Speaker 3: always be a peek into a Canadian accent.

807
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:20,400
Speaker 4: Yes, And part of the job was just being like, no,

808
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 4: shut up, don't say that. Like they're like, I love

809
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 4: me a glass of water, and so partly I was like, no, no,

810
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 4: you love water, you love water, like and it was

811
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 4: like so that. So I don't know, I'm biased. Sometimes

812
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:36,279
Speaker 4: I think running away from an accent is hard.

813
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like there has been recently a British

814
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 3: person trying to do an American accent.

815
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:40,799
Speaker 1: That.

816
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 3: It was the first time that I've really been like, oh,

817
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:45,320
Speaker 3: you shouldn't have tried. We should have just hired an American.

818
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 3: That part, but for the most part, I feel like

819
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:50,000
Speaker 3: British people are better at doing an American accent. That

820
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:52,000
Speaker 3: Americans are able to do a British accent.

821
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:54,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that that is a hund oh a

822
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:55,879
Speaker 4: million percent true.

823
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:56,719
Speaker 3: Why is that?

824
00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:00,359
Speaker 4: I don't know, they're smart, it's stupid.

825
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:03,799
Speaker 3: And I feel like maybe because American accents are it's

826
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 3: just like a flattening that all you have to do.

827
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 3: There's less work.

828
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 4: You just essentially just crush everything, every word into the

829
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 4: blandest version. Yeah, it's whereas the various British accents there's

830
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:19,960
Speaker 4: I mean, vowels are going in every possible direction.

831
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 3: Absolutely, it's a little they've it's a more complicated version

832
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:25,400
Speaker 3: of it.

833
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 4: Oh my god. Scottish accent Scottish, I would say, if

834
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 4: this is right?

835
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:36,240
Speaker 3: Sometimes is for me indecipherable. Have you had a Scottish accent?

836
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 3: Do you to our Scottish listeners?

837
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:43,000
Speaker 4: So sorry, have you heard that thing of like Scottish people,

838
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 4: it's really hard for Scottish people to say purple burglar alarm.

839
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:48,320
Speaker 3: Oh you're kidding, what do they what ends up happening?

840
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 4: It's they implode Purple burglar alarm incredibly hard if you

841
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:53,279
Speaker 4: have a Scottish act.

842
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:54,440
Speaker 3: Psycho came up with that.

843
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't try. But if you are at

844
00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:01,840
Speaker 4: home safely and you feel safe doing dialect, say purple

845
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 4: burglar alarm three times in a Scottish accent, you'll you'll

846
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:06,799
Speaker 4: actually implode.

847
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:10,759
Speaker 3: Well, look, I mean we've got to talk about something else. Yeah,

848
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 3: it's time. We're bordering on the offensive here. The Scottish

849
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 3: listeners are turning down the dial, they're leaving negative reviews.

850
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:20,359
Speaker 3: We have to move on. There's something else I have

851
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:23,440
Speaker 3: to talk to you about. Okay, I was really excited

852
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:25,480
Speaker 3: to have Mono on the podcast today. How could I

853
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:29,400
Speaker 3: not be a beam of light? Will have a wonderful time.

854
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 3: You know, I'm hanging by a threat emotionally. I need this.

855
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:36,080
Speaker 3: I need to have a nice episode of the podcast.

856
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:39,399
Speaker 3: So I was a little surprised. I was, I'll say

857
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:42,480
Speaker 3: a little disappointed. The podcast is called I said, no gifts,

858
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 3: and here you come trotting into my backyard holding what's

859
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 3: obviously a gift for me. I mean it couldn't be

860
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:52,680
Speaker 3: what you brought could not be more clearly a gift.

861
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:57,440
Speaker 4: It's gorgeously packaged. It's gorgeously packaged, it's addressed to me,

862
00:40:58,000 --> 00:40:59,120
Speaker 4: it's already been opened.

863
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 3: It has a huge warning label fragile. Thank you. Yes,

864
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:05,759
Speaker 3: it's a gift for me.

865
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:08,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, I had to get you something. I knew you

866
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:11,440
Speaker 4: to be upset. I hate to hear that. I know,

867
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:16,399
Speaker 4: I know. But it's small. It's small. It's small. It's

868
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:19,719
Speaker 4: incredibly personal, but it's also small, okay, and it means

869
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 4: a lot to me. But it was tiny, okay. And

870
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:24,320
Speaker 4: also it's an heirloom. But it's nothing.

871
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 3: I mean, we're at a crossroads. We can stop recording

872
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 3: or I can open it here on the podcast.

873
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:33,319
Speaker 4: I think you should open it because you're gonna see

874
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 4: it's it's minuscule.

875
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 3: It's tiny, Okay, I'm gonna take your word for it.

876
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 3: It's and you'll be glad to know.

877
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 4: It's deeply self serving. So it has nothing to it

878
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:47,319
Speaker 4: almost has nothing to do with you, Okay, And once

879
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 4: you see, you'll really understand how it has nothing to do.

880
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 3: Sort of medication for you. Pull this out.

881
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 4: I do need you to open that. Oh, I mean

882
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:04,719
Speaker 4: you're off the podcast, get out of here. It's it's lipstick, yes,

883
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 4: drag her lipstick, Yes, drag her.

884
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:10,279
Speaker 3: You can go ahead and just tell everybody.

885
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:10,720
Speaker 4: Guess if you insist.

886
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 1: Uh.

887
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:15,839
Speaker 4: Yeah, I have a the Only drag Race podcast, much

888
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:19,719
Speaker 4: like you, I also do a bit where I host

889
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:21,280
Speaker 4: the Only drag Race podcast.

890
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 3: You kind of send seasoned desist letters to other people

891
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:24,399
Speaker 3: trying to start them.

892
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 4: Thankfully, Yeah, no one, and I know one I know

893
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 4: talking about it on the internet, which is a shock

894
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 4: to me. No, but a lovely, the lovely, amazing Tyler

895
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:37,240
Speaker 4: Sparr sent me these, who is an amazing creator who

896
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:43,640
Speaker 4: makes personalized drag Race style lipsticks. Wow, and sent me

897
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:46,800
Speaker 4: literally was just like, hey, like, you always make album

898
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 4: artwork for your for your podcast with little lipsticks that

899
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:54,279
Speaker 4: are fashioned after the ones on the show. Can I

900
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:57,319
Speaker 4: send you some that say drag Her? And thankfully he

901
00:42:57,360 --> 00:42:58,320
Speaker 4: sent me two sets.

902
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:00,920
Speaker 3: Okay, so you've got some. I have them at home

903
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 3: and I gave you the ones I liked less.

904
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:02,879
Speaker 4: Wow.

905
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:05,400
Speaker 3: This feels sort of like, uh, you know, the like

906
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 3: cursed objects where one person has them and another person

907
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:10,840
Speaker 3: has them. Yes, they can never come back together again.

908
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:11,560
Speaker 3: What are they?

909
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 4: It's but it's like turtle doves from home alone too?

910
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 3: What what turtle doves from home alone too? I mean

911
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 3: not in years?

912
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:23,759
Speaker 4: So remember the kind of ghost man who runs the

913
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 4: toy store gives little McCully culkin.

914
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:28,879
Speaker 3: I guess I haven't seen it in a very long time,

915
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 3: the ghost man who runs the toys.

916
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:33,160
Speaker 4: I think it's like alluded to that the man at

917
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 4: the counter, like was never real what in home alone?

918
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:38,400
Speaker 4: I don't recall any of this.

919
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:42,920
Speaker 3: There's an evil spirit, a trickster spirit.

920
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:45,480
Speaker 4: Way wrong. There's like a sweet old man at the

921
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:49,360
Speaker 4: counter who when McCully culkin is running away from the

922
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:52,520
Speaker 4: sticky band, it's it's like, take these these little ornaments that.

923
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:53,400
Speaker 3: Are turtle doves.

924
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 4: Turtle doves always like come back together. You'll keep one

925
00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:01,560
Speaker 4: and you'll give another one to someone meaningful, Okay, And

926
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 4: then he ends up giving one turtle dove to the

927
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:04,240
Speaker 4: bird lady.

928
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 3: I remember her, Yeah, I mean she was frightening. I mean,

929
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:13,320
Speaker 3: I mean scarier than long legs. Imagine her smell. Oh boy,

930
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:15,960
Speaker 3: I mean she should have shared that hotel room with

931
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:20,600
Speaker 3: Kevin Shower. It is the winter in New York and

932
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 3: that rich.

933
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:24,600
Speaker 4: Horrible little boy rich, horrible little boy stayed in a

934
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:25,879
Speaker 4: presidential suite.

935
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:29,080
Speaker 3: Got all sorts of dessert pizza, their filthy.

936
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:31,919
Speaker 4: Piss covered child, His piss covered brother had a king

937
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:35,360
Speaker 4: bed to himself. They didn't once think about this unhoused

938
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:37,959
Speaker 4: woman who lives in Central Park during the winter of New.

939
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 3: York, the oldest place in the world.

940
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 4: Mong girls.

941
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:44,320
Speaker 3: Wow, there have died on their watch.

942
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:46,400
Speaker 4: Yes, they're worse than the Succession family.

943
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:48,840
Speaker 3: They are essentially there's a reason Donald Trump is in

944
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 3: that movie because those little boys have the spirit of

945
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:51,800
Speaker 3: Donald Trump.

946
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:57,760
Speaker 4: They endorsed devils. They endorsed him fully. They penned Project

947
00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:02,879
Speaker 4: twenty twenty five. Kevin McAllister is the author behind Project the.

948
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:08,319
Speaker 3: Ghost, behind that entire operation, The Devil the Wow, You've

949
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 3: really uncovered something about that movie that I think people

950
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:12,480
Speaker 3: need to take a look at.

951
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 4: I think so. I think so, And that's why I've

952
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 4: got you. This will be linked forever. You'll be glad

953
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:20,279
Speaker 4: to know that they're lip bombs. Oh, they're lip balm.

954
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:24,800
Speaker 4: They're lip bombs. Soreible, dramatic lip b it's a dramatic

955
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:26,239
Speaker 4: lip To pull this out of my bag.

956
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:28,239
Speaker 3: Yes, Oh, I'm thrilled about this.

957
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:30,719
Speaker 4: I'm happy for you too, and you'll always remember that

958
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 4: there's only one drag Race podcast, drag her.

959
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:37,239
Speaker 3: How why are lip bombs not more often put in

960
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 3: a dramatic lipstick container?

961
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:40,319
Speaker 4: Homophobia?

962
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:44,200
Speaker 3: Unbelievable. It's time to drop the uh, you know, the

963
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 3: little round tube.

964
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:47,640
Speaker 4: Can I be so forward as to ask you to

965
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:49,320
Speaker 4: apply some now? Of course?

966
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:52,279
Speaker 3: On at least we can record me applying. I hope

967
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 3: it is just a deep dark Shirley Manson redy dude,

968
00:45:57,600 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 3: you immediately start crooning. I'm on that hap wing it.

969
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:07,280
Speaker 4: Okay, Okay, Wow, gorgeous packaging. What a thoughtful gift.

970
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 3: I think you just pull out.

971
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:16,359
Speaker 4: I don't know, okay what what?

972
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:17,239
Speaker 3: Okay?

973
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:19,720
Speaker 4: Oh my god, oh my god. One is empty.

974
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 3: I'm so sorry.

975
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:21,160
Speaker 4: One is empty.

976
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:24,840
Speaker 3: Let's try the other one. Drugs.

977
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 4: Let's see if the other one is okay, good, good good,

978
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 4: it's just alone, just a single bullet. Okay, Let's see

979
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:37,040
Speaker 4: if this one hasn't.

980
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:40,080
Speaker 1: Empty.

981
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:46,600
Speaker 3: I've been given to Oh my trick, lip Baltons. This

982
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:50,479
Speaker 3: is maybe the greatest I can this is my mind work,

983
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:55,640
Speaker 3: This is the great this is somehow the meanest. Is

984
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 3: this the meanest gift you've ever gotten? This is cruel.

985
00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 3: This is cruel because the listener was excited. I was excited. Yes, unbelievable.

986
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 4: This is ridiculously I think I brought you the worst

987
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:09,960
Speaker 4: gift in the history of the show, because not only

988
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 4: is it self serving, it's self promotional. I opened it already.

989
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 4: It was a it was a prank on top of

990
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:20,440
Speaker 4: all of this. I am this is so sorry.

991
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:22,760
Speaker 3: How does this even happen?

992
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 4: I don't know. I can tell you I again, I

993
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:28,719
Speaker 4: want to plug the lovely person who gave me these

994
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:32,880
Speaker 4: for free. And I'm guarantee this is a once in

995
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:34,800
Speaker 4: a lifetime mistake.

996
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 3: I hope there are two naked lip bombs at your

997
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 3: home right now in just a ziploc bag. You couldn't

998
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:42,480
Speaker 3: couldn't part with the ball itself.

999
00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:47,000
Speaker 4: If I just if I on, oh my god, if

1000
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:52,600
Speaker 4: I basically neutered the lip bombs by myself and then

1001
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 4: just brought you the case, I remembers, this is actually perfect.

1002
00:47:58,080 --> 00:47:59,759
Speaker 3: I can put a vial of poison in it.

1003
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:03,640
Speaker 4: Yes, this is very When your partner, when I'm ready

1004
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 4: to kill my partner, ready to kill your partner if

1005
00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:07,799
Speaker 4: he starts getting if he starts towing the line of

1006
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:09,760
Speaker 4: over bickering at dinner.

1007
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:12,960
Speaker 3: I pull this out, I open it. Yes, tap tap

1008
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:16,080
Speaker 3: tap into the water and then wait, this is actually

1009
00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:19,240
Speaker 3: an incredible spy device. This is a great spi device.

1010
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 4: If you ever, if you ever start doing drugs like cocaine,

1011
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:24,560
Speaker 4: you could put some cocaine in there.

1012
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 3: I guess absolutely, just snort it right out of the top,

1013
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:32,040
Speaker 3: death immediately. But I truly feel like if James Bond

1014
00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 3: would just not be deeply homophobic, he could have this

1015
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:36,960
Speaker 3: in his little purse.

1016
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 4: Yes, oh my god, you can put some little pills

1017
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:45,400
Speaker 4: in there. Maybe pills give me like hills Cyanai anthrax, anthracks. Jewelry,

1018
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:48,120
Speaker 4: tiny tiny jewelry, you know.

1019
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:51,959
Speaker 3: Like a light necklace, a light chain. Yeah, gold chain

1020
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:54,720
Speaker 3: in case you don't want to wear it. I'm excited

1021
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:56,680
Speaker 3: to see what you do with this. There's simply nothing

1022
00:48:56,719 --> 00:48:58,000
Speaker 3: I can well won't be going on my.

1023
00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:01,520
Speaker 4: Lips, won't be going on your list.

1024
00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:04,440
Speaker 3: This is incredible. I've never seen something like this happen.

1025
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:07,000
Speaker 3: I mean, either that is like what manufacturer.

1026
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:10,920
Speaker 4: Now I'm gonna say, Tyler, now, this is not Tyler

1027
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 4: spar Is is you is a craftsman among among men,

1028
00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 4: and this is not usually in fact, I blame me,

1029
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:20,160
Speaker 4: I blame no.

1030
00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:24,120
Speaker 3: Everybody should trust Tyler Sparr. I don't know him, yes,

1031
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:26,439
Speaker 3: and I've never had a good experience with him, Let's

1032
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:30,239
Speaker 3: just be very clear, being my one experience has been bad. Yeah,

1033
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:32,839
Speaker 3: but we all make mistakes, and he may have known

1034
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:33,560
Speaker 3: what you were going.

1035
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:33,960
Speaker 4: To do with these.

1036
00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:36,279
Speaker 3: He may have known he didn't want to wasted on this.

1037
00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:40,280
Speaker 3: You know he thinks bridge of wininggger sucks. Don't give him.

1038
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:42,400
Speaker 4: Lip bull or he knew you didn't want gifts.

1039
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:45,719
Speaker 3: Oh, interesting, So it was carrying a move of, you know,

1040
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:46,720
Speaker 3: deep caring.

1041
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 4: This is a Max Original doc series that we're gonna

1042
00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:53,440
Speaker 4: have to get deep into. This is at least six episodes.

1043
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:55,320
Speaker 3: I know someone's asked you this, but have you always

1044
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 3: hated gifts?

1045
00:49:57,680 --> 00:49:58,160
Speaker 4: I always?

1046
00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:00,560
Speaker 3: I do deeply, Just like opening gift in front of

1047
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 3: another person, I think I get from my mom to

1048
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:05,640
Speaker 3: the like, oh, I can't believe you did something for me.

1049
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:06,920
Speaker 4: I realized this.

1050
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:11,279
Speaker 3: I'm like realizing it's not a healthy attitude. Well, I

1051
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:12,759
Speaker 3: get it, though, I certainly get it.

1052
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:16,279
Speaker 4: I get why it's like you should you we as

1053
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:19,960
Speaker 4: humans should evolve to maybe feel worthy of a gift, right,

1054
00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:22,640
Speaker 4: but maybe you're all you're it sounds like you're more

1055
00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:26,400
Speaker 4: so saying the expectation of the reaction is too much.

1056
00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:33,400
Speaker 3: That's tough. Yeah, both things are difficult for me. I'm

1057
00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:37,640
Speaker 3: I'm good at reacting well, uh what, regardless of what

1058
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:40,520
Speaker 3: the gift is. But I almost always feel bad that

1059
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:44,680
Speaker 3: the person did something for me. Yeah what about you?

1060
00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:49,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, I share this unfortunately, Like it's so weird that

1061
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:53,960
Speaker 4: I mean, I am attention seeking person. I'm comedian right.

1062
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 3: You're asking for things emotionally all the time.

1063
00:50:56,920 --> 00:51:00,000
Speaker 4: Yes, But then when it's my birthday, I get pretty

1064
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:03,440
Speaker 4: I get pretty uncomfortable that people are giving me attention.

1065
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:08,920
Speaker 4: And I couldn't exactly pinpoint why that I want attention

1066
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:11,279
Speaker 4: in so many ways. I want so much attention, I

1067
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:14,759
Speaker 4: need so much validation. But when it's someone says, okay,

1068
00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:17,240
Speaker 4: it's actually an appropriate time for you to get attention today,

1069
00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 4: I go.

1070
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:21,880
Speaker 3: A curl up. Do you throw yourself birthday parties?

1071
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:24,840
Speaker 4: I do? But even those birthday parties, I feel like

1072
00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:28,960
Speaker 4: a pressure to make it a fun time for everyone else.

1073
00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:31,080
Speaker 3: Uh huh. I ruined birthday parties for myself.

1074
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:32,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, what do you do?

1075
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:34,120
Speaker 3: I feel bad because I'm like oh, I didn't get

1076
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:37,240
Speaker 3: to give everyone the amount of tension they deserve exactly exactly,

1077
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:40,279
Speaker 3: and I'm like, oh so now I night being like,

1078
00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:42,520
Speaker 3: oh now, everyone's mad that I was only able to

1079
00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:43,760
Speaker 3: talk for a couple of minutes.

1080
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:44,960
Speaker 4: I know, I know.

1081
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:46,840
Speaker 3: Do you do something at your home do you do

1082
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:50,719
Speaker 3: it outside? I usually do it here. I send a

1083
00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:54,640
Speaker 3: very I've started sending emails with very strict rules. I

1084
00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:57,160
Speaker 3: like a party to end at eleven PM, and I say,

1085
00:51:57,239 --> 00:51:59,000
Speaker 3: I will ask you to leave. I love that.

1086
00:51:59,080 --> 00:51:59,440
Speaker 4: I love that.

1087
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:02,279
Speaker 3: I love that, and eleven across. Maybe it was eleven

1088
00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:05,680
Speaker 3: thirty last year, but the time, the moment that happens,

1089
00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:09,080
Speaker 3: I'm showing people away, I'm saying it was clear in

1090
00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:12,040
Speaker 3: the email, We've all had a good time, go home.

1091
00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:12,600
Speaker 4: I love that.

1092
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:14,120
Speaker 3: I do that all the time.

1093
00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:16,000
Speaker 4: Well, that's why I like throwing a party at David

1094
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:20,279
Speaker 4: Buster's because hey, you can stay right I'm going home.

1095
00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:23,359
Speaker 4: I'm leaving David, Dave and or Buster will be here.

1096
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:26,520
Speaker 3: But I've been day in the back room for years.

1097
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:29,319
Speaker 4: But I agree. I love that my husband does something

1098
00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:32,440
Speaker 4: that is actually genius, where when he's done with people

1099
00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:35,799
Speaker 4: at the at at our house, it's both rude but

1100
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:39,799
Speaker 4: also deeply real and funny where he'll just get up

1101
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:44,440
Speaker 4: and go, ah, I'm going to bed, and it's that

1102
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:47,960
Speaker 4: thing of like, it is funny, it is honest, but

1103
00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:50,759
Speaker 4: it is rude, right, and you just have to be

1104
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:53,120
Speaker 4: like and bute. Always he always gets the same response.

1105
00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:57,520
Speaker 4: Everyone goes huh okay, like, okay.

1106
00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:00,520
Speaker 3: I think people, but it is a show talk to people,

1107
00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:02,560
Speaker 3: and I think they appreciate at least having a new

1108
00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:06,279
Speaker 3: feeling at a birthday part. I also think people, you know,

1109
00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:09,960
Speaker 3: flourish with boundaries. I do too, you know, especially at

1110
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:12,799
Speaker 3: our age. Right. Yeah, it's just like I need to

1111
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:16,000
Speaker 3: know what's going to be happening. I need every detail,

1112
00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:19,440
Speaker 3: so there's no guessing, no guesswork on my part. I'll

1113
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:22,160
Speaker 3: be comfortable when it ends. I know when it begins.

1114
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:26,840
Speaker 3: I know who's there. No wild cards for me. So

1115
00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:30,320
Speaker 3: what is your sex life like? Non existent?

1116
00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:35,400
Speaker 4: It's been decades, that's my partner. No, No, I know

1117
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:38,080
Speaker 4: what you mean. I actually I agree. I am also

1118
00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:42,800
Speaker 4: like I like, I am a pretty risk averse person.

1119
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:44,520
Speaker 4: I like some expectation.

1120
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:46,360
Speaker 3: This is why I'm scared of drugs in general.

1121
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 4: Right, I like to know when the plane is landing,

1122
00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:53,880
Speaker 4: and so many times people say, we get on this plane,

1123
00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:55,320
Speaker 4: we don't know when it could.

1124
00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:57,920
Speaker 3: Be hours, yeah and day. I don't think that's for me.

1125
00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:02,000
Speaker 4: I would almost rather not get high then have a

1126
00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:03,799
Speaker 4: wonderful time getting high.

1127
00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:06,439
Speaker 3: Right, How do you the small bit of like, oh,

1128
00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:08,960
Speaker 3: this high has lasted for nine hours and I may

1129
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:10,560
Speaker 3: never be sober again.

1130
00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:13,799
Speaker 4: How do you feel about drinking or like that? Does

1131
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:15,920
Speaker 4: that sort of thing? Are you like, oh, yeah, I

1132
00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:18,359
Speaker 4: can do a thing and no i'll land or do

1133
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:20,319
Speaker 4: I avoid? Do you avoid it because you don't know

1134
00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:20,879
Speaker 4: when you'll land?

1135
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:24,319
Speaker 3: That for me, drinking in particular that it scares me

1136
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:26,520
Speaker 3: of being out of control, because that's sort of out

1137
00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:30,200
Speaker 3: of control, is you know, the axhilearation aspect of it.

1138
00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:33,080
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, that feels truly out of control. Whereas

1139
00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:37,359
Speaker 3: with like we it's just somebody gets really sleepy. Yeah,

1140
00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:39,600
Speaker 3: they're out of control as well, like they're a little goofy.

1141
00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:42,640
Speaker 3: Then they fall asleep. So that is. But as far

1142
00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:45,600
Speaker 3: as drinking goes, the idea of being drunk around other

1143
00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:48,960
Speaker 3: people terrifying, really absolute terror.

1144
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:50,600
Speaker 4: So do you then you don't?

1145
00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:53,160
Speaker 3: No, I'll like, I'll have a drink at a Christmas party,

1146
00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:55,759
Speaker 3: you know, just a glass of wine or something. But

1147
00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:58,799
Speaker 3: outside of that, I'm just like that, what about you?

1148
00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:03,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm so coach, I really, I'm so god I'm

1149
00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:08,160
Speaker 4: boring you, no, But my biggest thrill is having two

1150
00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:13,400
Speaker 4: point two five drinks. For me, that's heaven because I

1151
00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:16,120
Speaker 4: know I'm tipsy, just a little bit loose, just a

1152
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:18,840
Speaker 4: little bit loose, But I know I haven't lost control.

1153
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:21,799
Speaker 4: I know I won't. My plans to go home won't

1154
00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:26,520
Speaker 4: be altered significantly, right, So for me, like people like

1155
00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:29,720
Speaker 4: you could get drunker, and I find very little joy

1156
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:31,120
Speaker 4: in getting drunker.

1157
00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:34,160
Speaker 3: The other fear for me is that people will like

1158
00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:36,719
Speaker 3: that personality better. Oh my god, I'd be like, well

1159
00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:39,680
Speaker 3: we like this version of Bridger way more? What do

1160
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:43,080
Speaker 3: we do? What do we do? That's a lifetime. I've

1161
00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:45,239
Speaker 3: been committed to that personality. I'll be drunk from the

1162
00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:46,040
Speaker 3: moment I wake up.

1163
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:48,080
Speaker 4: I got that's fun to see. As an anxious person.

1164
00:55:48,080 --> 00:55:50,400
Speaker 4: I never thought about that, And now I've given you

1165
00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:51,959
Speaker 4: a whole new thing to be.

1166
00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:54,640
Speaker 3: Afraid of, anything to freak out about. There could be

1167
00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:58,560
Speaker 3: a much better version of you. One drink more, what

1168
00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:01,239
Speaker 3: tool do you? I don't I'm assuming you have. We

1169
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:04,760
Speaker 3: all live with anxiety. What's one of your favorite.

1170
00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:07,719
Speaker 4: Pop psychology tips dealing with anxiety?

1171
00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:12,720
Speaker 3: Interesting? I mean, I think there's the being in the moment.

1172
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:18,359
Speaker 3: There's the especially right now, of everything feels so unbelievably

1173
00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:21,560
Speaker 3: out of control, and there's always something in me of like, oh,

1174
00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:23,600
Speaker 3: I need to fix this. I can fix this. And

1175
00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:25,719
Speaker 3: then if I can just focus for a minute and

1176
00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:29,239
Speaker 3: be like, what is my actual reality right now? It

1177
00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:33,399
Speaker 3: seems to be okay, yeah, which is not like, oh,

1178
00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:35,279
Speaker 3: now I'm not going to do anything, but it's like,

1179
00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:38,920
Speaker 3: at least I'm not completely spiraling, and I can control

1180
00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:42,759
Speaker 3: things totally. I mean, and the more recent help I've

1181
00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:45,960
Speaker 3: had in my brain. I mean, let's not get too

1182
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:48,960
Speaker 3: into the weeds with how horrible it is, but I'm like,

1183
00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:52,880
Speaker 3: if the worst happens, if this country is so stupid

1184
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:56,480
Speaker 3: that they allow Donald Trump to be president again, my

1185
00:56:56,520 --> 00:57:00,200
Speaker 3: friends will still be my friends, my reality will continued

1186
00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:03,399
Speaker 3: to exist in some way mm hmm, and then we'll

1187
00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:04,120
Speaker 3: start from there.

1188
00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:04,680
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1189
00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:07,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not gonna just be obliterated immediately. Your life

1190
00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:09,560
Speaker 3: will still be your life, and if you live here,

1191
00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:11,920
Speaker 3: your life will probably still be your life. For the

1192
00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:14,279
Speaker 3: time being, For the time being, what is your what's

1193
00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:17,600
Speaker 3: your coping mechanism? Yeah, that's a good question. It's similar.

1194
00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:22,480
Speaker 4: I usually when I have anxiety, I usually let myself

1195
00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:26,440
Speaker 4: go like, Okay, you're tremendously anxious, so guess what the

1196
00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:30,919
Speaker 4: next sixty minutes, free pass. Next sixty minutes, you can

1197
00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:35,560
Speaker 4: watch YouTube, you can eat chocolate, you can like I

1198
00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:38,760
Speaker 4: I that really helps me to go free pass. Like

1199
00:57:39,240 --> 00:57:41,840
Speaker 4: you are, You're just going to be anxious for a

1200
00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:44,440
Speaker 4: little bit. Nothing's gonna change it. So you're gonna need

1201
00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:48,040
Speaker 4: to be like really nice to yourself, maybe all day,

1202
00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:50,840
Speaker 4: but maybe it'll pass in an hour two hours.

1203
00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:55,320
Speaker 3: Yeah. See, for me, free pass just means free past

1204
00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:56,480
Speaker 3: to worry about other things.

1205
00:57:56,560 --> 00:57:56,840
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1206
00:57:56,920 --> 00:57:58,760
Speaker 3: I'm not even able to this point to be like okay,

1207
00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:01,120
Speaker 3: now I'll just lock onto something I enjoy because the

1208
00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:02,960
Speaker 3: anxiety is like am I enjoying this? And I'm like, oh,

1209
00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:04,360
Speaker 3: I've kind of I have to make sure that I'm

1210
00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:07,400
Speaker 3: enjoying the thing that I allowed myself to enjoy. Inescapable.

1211
00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:08,520
Speaker 3: It's capable.

1212
00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:11,440
Speaker 4: Let me ask you this question, how because this is

1213
00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:14,120
Speaker 4: you talking about your life and life changing and we'll

1214
00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:18,560
Speaker 4: see how stupid the country is when when someone says

1215
00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:24,600
Speaker 4: I'm moving to Canada, does that is that triggering for

1216
00:58:24,680 --> 00:58:27,560
Speaker 4: you in terms of like, and I'm actually almost asking

1217
00:58:27,600 --> 00:58:30,080
Speaker 4: all your listeners because someone basically was like, that's a

1218
00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:33,400
Speaker 4: really stupid thing to say because my partner's Japanese, and

1219
00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:36,120
Speaker 4: lately I've been like, it's fine, I'm moving to Japan right, right,

1220
00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:38,600
Speaker 4: And people have been bringing to my attention they're like, ah,

1221
00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:41,600
Speaker 4: that's kind of like a gross, nasty, little privileged thing

1222
00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:45,040
Speaker 4: to say. Uh huh when you say, like, I'm leaving countries,

1223
00:58:45,720 --> 00:58:46,600
Speaker 4: what do you think of that?

1224
00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:49,200
Speaker 3: I don't know that I you know, there's the part

1225
00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:51,160
Speaker 3: of it where it's like for me when I'll have

1226
00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:54,520
Speaker 3: those thoughts, it's like, yeah, but I'm in a position.

1227
00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:56,880
Speaker 3: I'm very fortunate to be in a position where like,

1228
00:58:57,080 --> 00:58:59,680
Speaker 3: if I stay here, I can at least change things

1229
00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:02,440
Speaker 3: for the at least in my immediate surroundings for the good.

1230
00:59:02,600 --> 00:59:04,600
Speaker 3: Try to do good things here rather than just running

1231
00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:07,880
Speaker 3: away from the problem. But I also am like people

1232
00:59:08,280 --> 00:59:10,560
Speaker 3: leave their countries for I mean, to come to the

1233
00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:12,600
Speaker 3: United States because things have gotten so bad in their country,

1234
00:59:12,640 --> 00:59:15,360
Speaker 3: Like when things get so bad in your country, Yeah,

1235
00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:19,920
Speaker 3: that's why people become immigrants because they need to get out.

1236
00:59:20,040 --> 00:59:24,200
Speaker 3: And fortunately this place hasn't become a total health scape.

1237
00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:26,720
Speaker 3: I mean there's a huge chunk of people that want

1238
00:59:26,760 --> 00:59:30,800
Speaker 3: it to be that, right, But give them. I mean

1239
00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:32,280
Speaker 3: like I don't want them to win. I don't want

1240
00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:32,520
Speaker 3: them more.

1241
00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:35,320
Speaker 4: I don't want them to win. Yeah, this is a

1242
00:59:35,360 --> 00:59:38,120
Speaker 4: really good thing because it's like I do not want

1243
00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:43,240
Speaker 4: them to win. And I mean we're due for some immigration.

1244
00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:46,160
Speaker 4: It's like, you know, people move to this country roughly

1245
00:59:46,160 --> 00:59:49,200
Speaker 4: two hundred one hundred years ago depending on when you're talking.

1246
00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:53,320
Speaker 4: But like for quote unquote a better life. That's not

1247
00:59:53,320 --> 00:59:55,280
Speaker 4: americacause America doesn't get to own that.

1248
00:59:55,720 --> 00:59:56,520
Speaker 3: No, no, no no.

1249
00:59:56,680 --> 01:00:00,840
Speaker 4: If this country gets bad, I get to find another say,

1250
01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:01,920
Speaker 4: oh look there's America.

1251
01:00:02,080 --> 01:00:06,000
Speaker 3: There's a better country. America has become the empty lip ball.

1252
01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:09,520
Speaker 4: I don't want no scrubs. Yes, you know what I'm saying.

1253
01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:16,280
Speaker 4: A scrub is a country who thinks it's fly. It's

1254
01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:19,479
Speaker 4: also known as a fascist place. But as I'm saying,

1255
01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:24,360
Speaker 4: is like why we exercise great personal strength when we're

1256
01:00:24,440 --> 01:00:28,200
Speaker 4: leaving bad relationships? Can't we leave bad countries?

1257
01:00:28,440 --> 01:00:28,680
Speaker 3: Right?

1258
01:00:28,880 --> 01:00:29,120
Speaker 4: Right?

1259
01:00:29,440 --> 01:00:32,080
Speaker 3: And that's where like I guess it gets complicated because

1260
01:00:32,080 --> 01:00:33,920
Speaker 3: it's like there are so many elements of this country

1261
01:00:33,920 --> 01:00:37,440
Speaker 3: that are still good and I don't want the worst

1262
01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:39,320
Speaker 3: of it to I think for me, it's just like

1263
01:00:39,360 --> 01:00:41,200
Speaker 3: a spike thing out of this at this point where

1264
01:00:41,200 --> 01:00:44,280
Speaker 3: I'm like, those people are the worst. No, I'm not

1265
01:00:44,360 --> 01:00:48,680
Speaker 3: letting you run over me. Eventually you might literally run

1266
01:00:48,720 --> 01:00:50,640
Speaker 3: over me, but until that moment, I will be doing

1267
01:00:50,680 --> 01:00:53,320
Speaker 3: everything I can to make your life a living hell. Totally.

1268
01:00:53,960 --> 01:00:58,040
Speaker 4: I think that's also incredibly valid. It's like this place

1269
01:00:58,200 --> 01:00:59,919
Speaker 4: was supposed to be like a promise of a really

1270
01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:02,360
Speaker 4: cool time, everyone being.

1271
01:01:02,200 --> 01:01:06,640
Speaker 3: Equal, and now it's getting scary scary. I don't know

1272
01:01:06,680 --> 01:01:07,040
Speaker 3: the answer.

1273
01:01:07,040 --> 01:01:08,680
Speaker 4: I'm literally it sounds so weird, but like I want

1274
01:01:08,680 --> 01:01:10,560
Speaker 4: your listeners to chime in and talk to me or

1275
01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:14,080
Speaker 4: you of like, yeah, how socially responsible is it to

1276
01:01:14,120 --> 01:01:17,680
Speaker 4: scream leave this country right? Or is that actually like

1277
01:01:17,840 --> 01:01:21,760
Speaker 4: something only a privileged person says and and something incredibly

1278
01:01:21,840 --> 01:01:24,320
Speaker 4: like politically inactive to say right?

1279
01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:26,840
Speaker 3: And then of course there will be the people who'll

1280
01:01:26,840 --> 01:01:28,080
Speaker 3: be like, well, this country has this problems and the

1281
01:01:28,160 --> 01:01:29,960
Speaker 3: blah blah blah blahlah. No, no country is perfect.

1282
01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:32,560
Speaker 4: It's like, of course, Yeah, can you believe I'm inviting

1283
01:01:32,640 --> 01:01:37,240
Speaker 4: podcasts people to scream at me? Inviting them my monos

1284
01:01:37,480 --> 01:01:42,160
Speaker 4: Instagram and you can find me at drag Her podcast

1285
01:01:42,520 --> 01:01:44,680
Speaker 4: available anywhere you find fine pods.

1286
01:01:46,840 --> 01:01:50,480
Speaker 3: But yeah, what was the point I was trying to make. Yeah,

1287
01:01:50,520 --> 01:01:52,080
Speaker 3: it's just like every country has its problems, but I

1288
01:01:52,080 --> 01:01:54,560
Speaker 3: feel like America is leading the world in new problems.

1289
01:01:55,200 --> 01:01:58,000
Speaker 3: Like we've we found the worst version of a president

1290
01:01:58,600 --> 01:02:01,760
Speaker 3: that may be elected again, and he's the devil. He's

1291
01:02:01,840 --> 01:02:04,440
Speaker 3: like not even hiding it from people. He did a

1292
01:02:04,480 --> 01:02:07,200
Speaker 3: horrible job from twenty sixteen to twenty twenty, led us

1293
01:02:07,240 --> 01:02:09,320
Speaker 3: into the worst thing in American history.

1294
01:02:09,400 --> 01:02:12,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, or at least modern America. Did edricate us on

1295
01:02:12,360 --> 01:02:14,280
Speaker 4: the problems, knew about the problem.

1296
01:02:14,160 --> 01:02:16,240
Speaker 3: Kind of just rubbed our face in it.

1297
01:02:16,240 --> 01:02:19,960
Speaker 4: He held us to eat bleach. Right, Let's see, he's

1298
01:02:20,320 --> 01:02:25,600
Speaker 4: had classified documents, led a violent insurrection.

1299
01:02:25,720 --> 01:02:27,000
Speaker 3: It's the sort of thing where it's just like, what

1300
01:02:27,040 --> 01:02:29,280
Speaker 3: sort of thing don't you like? He will offer it

1301
01:02:29,320 --> 01:02:31,200
Speaker 3: to you. He's done one of the things you don't like.

1302
01:02:31,320 --> 01:02:33,160
Speaker 3: Just p it's a buffet of horrible things.

1303
01:02:33,200 --> 01:02:35,320
Speaker 4: And I would also not even say like I remember

1304
01:02:35,400 --> 01:02:38,040
Speaker 4: even as early as two years ago, thinking like the

1305
01:02:38,080 --> 01:02:42,880
Speaker 4: Supreme Court will always be a beacon of objectivity.

1306
01:02:42,960 --> 01:02:46,800
Speaker 3: Oh so naive? Ooh, I was so naive.

1307
01:02:46,840 --> 01:02:49,640
Speaker 4: I was like, look, everything can be crazy, but those

1308
01:02:49,720 --> 01:02:51,120
Speaker 4: people mean what they.

1309
01:02:51,000 --> 01:02:53,080
Speaker 3: Say, right, those will be the adult sider.

1310
01:02:53,080 --> 01:02:53,600
Speaker 4: It was wrong.

1311
01:02:53,920 --> 01:02:55,760
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, it's just I was wrong. It

1312
01:02:55,840 --> 01:03:00,640
Speaker 3: wasn't true. I was wrong. Okay, but I stick around.

1313
01:03:00,720 --> 01:03:03,320
Speaker 3: Let me stop being a bummer America for a little longer.

1314
01:03:03,360 --> 01:03:05,600
Speaker 3: I'll stick around for a little bit more. Hope. There's

1315
01:03:06,160 --> 01:03:08,240
Speaker 3: there's always hope. Have you been to Portland?

1316
01:03:08,400 --> 01:03:11,640
Speaker 4: There's hop. I don't know. I thought Portland was really

1317
01:03:11,680 --> 01:03:12,320
Speaker 4: cute when I went.

1318
01:03:12,600 --> 01:03:13,880
Speaker 3: When were you in Portland last?

1319
01:03:14,120 --> 01:03:15,520
Speaker 4: Only only a couple months ago.

1320
01:03:16,120 --> 01:03:18,400
Speaker 3: I've heard good things that I haven't been in about

1321
01:03:18,400 --> 01:03:21,400
Speaker 3: fifteen years. I thought it was really really fricking charming.

1322
01:03:21,200 --> 01:03:25,760
Speaker 4: Good food, good queer vibes, kind of an and not

1323
01:03:25,920 --> 01:03:28,200
Speaker 4: like you know, every demographic of queer people. I felt

1324
01:03:28,200 --> 01:03:30,760
Speaker 4: were represented in mixed spaces, which always makes my heart

1325
01:03:30,840 --> 01:03:31,320
Speaker 4: very happy.

1326
01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:36,280
Speaker 3: Of course. Yeah, good food, not far from nice beaches,

1327
01:03:36,680 --> 01:03:41,960
Speaker 3: nice beaches, male strip clubs, incredible male strip club What

1328
01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:42,800
Speaker 3: more could you ask for?

1329
01:03:43,120 --> 01:03:45,120
Speaker 4: Where the men say, hey, can I take you to

1330
01:03:45,160 --> 01:03:47,920
Speaker 4: the champagne room, which was like have you ever had

1331
01:03:47,960 --> 01:03:48,280
Speaker 4: a hat?

1332
01:03:48,880 --> 01:03:50,800
Speaker 3: I've never been to a male strip club meet. Yeah,

1333
01:03:50,800 --> 01:03:52,720
Speaker 3: this was my first time. But it wasn't just go

1334
01:03:52,720 --> 01:03:53,240
Speaker 3: go boys.

1335
01:03:53,240 --> 01:03:55,800
Speaker 4: It was men dancing and then coming to do the

1336
01:03:55,840 --> 01:03:58,880
Speaker 4: fake flirt with you and then saying can I give

1337
01:03:58,920 --> 01:03:59,480
Speaker 4: you a dance?

1338
01:03:59,640 --> 01:04:02,480
Speaker 3: That's an incredible he's kind of interest, very forward thinking.

1339
01:04:02,560 --> 01:04:04,000
Speaker 4: It was a little bit of both. It was both

1340
01:04:04,080 --> 01:04:06,480
Speaker 4: like it felt like Disney World because like it was like, well,

1341
01:04:06,560 --> 01:04:09,240
Speaker 4: I I fundamentally understand that you do not want to

1342
01:04:09,240 --> 01:04:13,320
Speaker 4: sleep with me, but it also feels rude to deny

1343
01:04:14,040 --> 01:04:14,920
Speaker 4: that fantasy.

1344
01:04:15,320 --> 01:04:18,960
Speaker 3: Right, this is your job exactly, so it's rude for me.

1345
01:04:19,040 --> 01:04:21,000
Speaker 4: I'll just say like fuck, you don't fucking want to,

1346
01:04:21,400 --> 01:04:23,280
Speaker 4: It's like I have to. It's like Mickey Mouse, you're

1347
01:04:23,280 --> 01:04:25,840
Speaker 4: looking at the take a picture with Donald Duck Exactly,

1348
01:04:26,400 --> 01:04:28,760
Speaker 4: That's exactly it. You have to take the picture because

1349
01:04:28,800 --> 01:04:30,600
Speaker 4: it's actually like better decorum.

1350
01:04:31,000 --> 01:04:32,480
Speaker 3: There's a teen sweating in there.

1351
01:04:32,760 --> 01:04:37,840
Speaker 4: Yeah exactly. He's getting man very little slap his package

1352
01:04:37,880 --> 01:04:38,400
Speaker 4: in your face.

1353
01:04:40,480 --> 01:04:43,000
Speaker 3: No, Portland seems to be a beacon of hope. No,

1354
01:04:43,120 --> 01:04:46,880
Speaker 3: everywhere has a little pocket of there's people, there's hope,

1355
01:04:46,880 --> 01:04:47,240
Speaker 3: that's hope.

1356
01:04:47,240 --> 01:04:47,800
Speaker 4: That's hope.

1357
01:04:47,920 --> 01:04:51,840
Speaker 3: There's absolutely we can't give up. Can't let Katya Callister

1358
01:04:52,040 --> 01:04:55,680
Speaker 3: run the country? No, no, no, no oh. I think

1359
01:04:55,680 --> 01:05:00,480
Speaker 3: it's the listeners an absolute ball of ang idea at

1360
01:05:00,520 --> 01:05:02,520
Speaker 3: this point. If so, sorry, I don't know how this happens.

1361
01:05:02,520 --> 01:05:05,520
Speaker 3: I know the point of this podcast is to always

1362
01:05:05,560 --> 01:05:09,919
Speaker 3: avoid talking about the devil, but you know, times are tough.

1363
01:05:10,200 --> 01:05:13,040
Speaker 4: Times are tough, Times are tough. Before I let you go,

1364
01:05:13,160 --> 01:05:17,000
Speaker 4: what's who's your personal devil? Well, we have to play

1365
01:05:17,000 --> 01:05:20,280
Speaker 4: a game. We're gonna we're going to turn this around. Okay, good,

1366
01:05:20,280 --> 01:05:20,760
Speaker 4: I'm ready.

1367
01:05:20,760 --> 01:05:23,000
Speaker 3: We're playing Gift to a Curse. I need a number

1368
01:05:23,000 --> 01:05:25,600
Speaker 3: between one and ten from you. Eight. Okay. I have

1369
01:05:25,640 --> 01:05:27,680
Speaker 3: to do some light calculating. I mean, you've already done

1370
01:05:27,720 --> 01:05:30,800
Speaker 3: some disgusting self promotion. But you can continue, you can

1371
01:05:30,880 --> 01:05:34,000
Speaker 3: recommend something, do whatever you want. I'll be right back.

1372
01:05:36,120 --> 01:05:39,800
Speaker 4: Okay. I don't know if you'll have heard of this yet,

1373
01:05:39,960 --> 01:05:45,080
Speaker 4: but there's a podcast that talks about drag Race, and

1374
01:05:45,640 --> 01:05:50,480
Speaker 4: since I am doing the Gaylord's work, you might want

1375
01:05:50,480 --> 01:05:54,240
Speaker 4: to hear this podcast. Whether we're talking about drag Race,

1376
01:05:54,880 --> 01:05:57,880
Speaker 4: or whether you're watching drag Race or not. You can

1377
01:05:57,960 --> 01:06:00,880
Speaker 4: tune in because it's always just a good gay time.

1378
01:06:01,040 --> 01:06:04,439
Speaker 4: Go listen to drag Her wherever you get podcasts, and

1379
01:06:04,920 --> 01:06:07,520
Speaker 4: you know, I want to hear you chime pipe off

1380
01:06:07,640 --> 01:06:11,240
Speaker 4: in those comments, pipe off on the Apple podcast because

1381
01:06:11,280 --> 01:06:13,520
Speaker 4: whether you like it or hate it, I will read

1382
01:06:13,560 --> 01:06:16,080
Speaker 4: your review on the air. Wow.

1383
01:06:16,560 --> 01:06:18,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, it takes a lot of guts.

1384
01:06:18,360 --> 01:06:20,240
Speaker 4: It does its kind of liberating.

1385
01:06:20,760 --> 01:06:23,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, like just saying this has no power over me.

1386
01:06:23,760 --> 01:06:26,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's really liberating just to read the meanest comment

1387
01:06:26,080 --> 01:06:32,360
Speaker 4: about yourself. It's like hack, unfunny, not interesting, should die?

1388
01:06:32,480 --> 01:06:35,640
Speaker 4: Should die? Thank you? And then it feels also good

1389
01:06:35,680 --> 01:06:36,480
Speaker 4: to just say thank.

1390
01:06:36,440 --> 01:06:39,600
Speaker 3: Thank you for that, thank you for thinking of me.

1391
01:06:40,680 --> 01:06:41,920
Speaker 3: It takes a lot of work to go give it

1392
01:06:41,960 --> 01:06:43,840
Speaker 3: Apple to of course, you've got to have an account,

1393
01:06:43,880 --> 01:06:46,800
Speaker 3: You've got to get this app open. It takes a lot. Yes,

1394
01:06:46,840 --> 01:06:48,800
Speaker 3: you got to think about what you're gonna write. Yes,

1395
01:06:49,200 --> 01:06:51,280
Speaker 3: and you know that's what I like. I welcome it.

1396
01:06:51,600 --> 01:06:52,440
Speaker 3: And democracy.

1397
01:06:52,960 --> 01:06:56,760
Speaker 4: Everybody register to vote, democracy, register to vote. Your voice

1398
01:06:56,760 --> 01:06:59,720
Speaker 4: is valid, her vote. I'll probably mail in my vote.

1399
01:06:59,720 --> 01:07:00,360
Speaker 4: Feels great.

1400
01:07:00,600 --> 01:07:02,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I want to mail in my vote for sure.

1401
01:07:02,240 --> 01:07:04,320
Speaker 3: Then I don't have to go anywhere on election day.

1402
01:07:04,760 --> 01:07:09,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, can just remain as calm as possible watch Pixar movies.

1403
01:07:10,120 --> 01:07:13,640
Speaker 3: Yes, eat cool Whip, I'm not eating it. I'm not

1404
01:07:13,640 --> 01:07:14,440
Speaker 3: a cool whip person.

1405
01:07:14,600 --> 01:07:18,040
Speaker 4: Really. I like a real whip cream. Yeah, I agree,

1406
01:07:18,280 --> 01:07:20,120
Speaker 4: But I also like a premium dessert. So I don't

1407
01:07:20,120 --> 01:07:21,800
Speaker 4: know why I am at cool Whip.

1408
01:07:22,240 --> 01:07:24,880
Speaker 3: Cool Whip has its fans, and I understand what. It's

1409
01:07:24,920 --> 01:07:25,840
Speaker 3: just not my cup of tea.

1410
01:07:25,960 --> 01:07:26,120
Speaker 2: You know.

1411
01:07:26,200 --> 01:07:29,520
Speaker 4: Baking with Ish. I'm gonna give a plug to baking.

1412
01:07:30,440 --> 01:07:36,760
Speaker 4: This awesome baker in the SGV area who is at

1413
01:07:36,800 --> 01:07:40,080
Speaker 4: Blossom Market Hall, Okay whatever, He's an awesome baker. You

1414
01:07:40,120 --> 01:07:46,760
Speaker 4: can follow his Instagram. He makes really awesome delicious treats.

1415
01:07:46,960 --> 01:07:49,200
Speaker 4: Oh like that have like a lot of times they

1416
01:07:49,240 --> 01:07:54,160
Speaker 4: have like a Filipino fusion twist, but not always. Sometimes

1417
01:07:54,160 --> 01:07:57,960
Speaker 4: it's just like sometimes it'll be like an ube lemon

1418
01:07:58,040 --> 01:07:58,840
Speaker 4: meringue tarts.

1419
01:07:58,920 --> 01:07:59,960
Speaker 3: Oh that sounds lovely.

1420
01:08:00,160 --> 01:08:02,640
Speaker 4: Or sometimes it's just the best damn chocolate chip cookie

1421
01:08:02,680 --> 01:08:05,040
Speaker 4: you've ever had. You've got a variety, Yeah, you have

1422
01:08:05,080 --> 01:08:08,120
Speaker 4: a variety. Baking with Ish, Baking with Ish, everybody baking

1423
01:08:08,160 --> 01:08:08,960
Speaker 4: with Dish.

1424
01:08:09,920 --> 01:08:12,080
Speaker 3: Go there, go there, I'm gonna go there. What can

1425
01:08:12,120 --> 01:08:16,320
Speaker 3: I recommend Cassandra Jenkins. You know who this is. She

1426
01:08:16,360 --> 01:08:20,280
Speaker 3: has a new album. Oh, everybody go look up Cassandra Jenks.

1427
01:08:20,320 --> 01:08:23,479
Speaker 4: She's unbelievable. You would like her, Okay, it'd be into

1428
01:08:23,520 --> 01:08:26,200
Speaker 4: her for sure. Okay, here's my trash recommendation. Do you

1429
01:08:26,240 --> 01:08:27,760
Speaker 4: like the new Kesha song joy Ride?

1430
01:08:28,000 --> 01:08:30,600
Speaker 3: Haven't heard it yet? Okay, should probably listen to it?

1431
01:08:30,720 --> 01:08:31,040
Speaker 4: You should.

1432
01:08:31,080 --> 01:08:33,920
Speaker 3: It feels like gain is Okay, you know what I mean? Right,

1433
01:08:34,040 --> 01:08:37,479
Speaker 3: of course it's good. It's insane, but it's also good. Okay.

1434
01:08:37,600 --> 01:08:41,280
Speaker 3: It's up against the Katie Perry thing that everybody immediately

1435
01:08:41,320 --> 01:08:41,639
Speaker 3: was like.

1436
01:08:41,640 --> 01:08:42,880
Speaker 4: No, hilarious.

1437
01:08:43,360 --> 01:08:44,519
Speaker 3: I call her pop Karen.

1438
01:08:45,200 --> 01:08:51,840
Speaker 4: Um. She is problematic, she's not in control. He makes

1439
01:08:51,840 --> 01:08:56,880
Speaker 4: it very clear what she's about. Wow, Katie, Katie pop Karen. Okay,

1440
01:08:56,920 --> 01:08:58,599
Speaker 4: this is how we play gift to a curse. Okay,

1441
01:08:58,720 --> 01:09:00,560
Speaker 4: I'm gonna name three things, so you're gonna tell me

1442
01:09:00,560 --> 01:09:02,719
Speaker 4: if there are a gift or a curse and why? Okay,

1443
01:09:02,840 --> 01:09:04,280
Speaker 4: and then I'll tell you if you're right or wrong,

1444
01:09:04,360 --> 01:09:06,120
Speaker 4: because there are correct answers.

1445
01:09:06,160 --> 01:09:09,920
Speaker 3: You can be wrong. I fail. Oh, boundaries, boundaries were

1446
01:09:09,960 --> 01:09:12,800
Speaker 3: setting clear boundaries for you to succeed or fail, and

1447
01:09:12,840 --> 01:09:15,000
Speaker 3: it will be entirely your fault if you fail.

1448
01:09:15,240 --> 01:09:15,840
Speaker 4: I accept this.

1449
01:09:15,920 --> 01:09:16,639
Speaker 3: My hands are clean.

1450
01:09:16,800 --> 01:09:17,400
Speaker 4: I accept this.

1451
01:09:17,840 --> 01:09:20,400
Speaker 3: Okay, First stup, This is from a listener named Jessica

1452
01:09:20,520 --> 01:09:24,200
Speaker 3: Gift or a curse moody slashed slow down covers of

1453
01:09:24,240 --> 01:09:25,640
Speaker 3: pop hits.

1454
01:09:25,640 --> 01:09:28,439
Speaker 4: Wow, curse.

1455
01:09:29,439 --> 01:09:31,760
Speaker 3: Why this was?

1456
01:09:31,800 --> 01:09:34,639
Speaker 4: I was torn because I've certainly enjoyed some of these,

1457
01:09:35,120 --> 01:09:36,559
Speaker 4: But at the end of the day, it's a curse

1458
01:09:36,640 --> 01:09:41,080
Speaker 4: because this is a plague upon new pop music. Like

1459
01:09:41,120 --> 01:09:45,919
Speaker 4: it's like we're so music is like music is suffering

1460
01:09:46,000 --> 01:09:50,040
Speaker 4: right now, Like everything is so derivative of sampling and

1461
01:09:50,160 --> 01:09:53,920
Speaker 4: the nineties. It's like there's no new music. So at

1462
01:09:53,960 --> 01:09:57,000
Speaker 4: the end of the day, I have to say, curse. Okay,

1463
01:09:57,560 --> 01:09:59,000
Speaker 4: what do you think? What was the correct answer?

1464
01:09:59,160 --> 01:10:02,920
Speaker 3: You're correct? Oh, the dumbest thing you could possibly do.

1465
01:10:03,240 --> 01:10:06,280
Speaker 3: If you need something moody or slow, pick one of

1466
01:10:06,320 --> 01:10:07,639
Speaker 3: a billion other songs.

1467
01:10:07,760 --> 01:10:10,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, remember when every horror movie did it for their trailer.

1468
01:10:10,760 --> 01:10:11,800
Speaker 4: It's so ridiculous.

1469
01:10:11,920 --> 01:10:14,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's like a choir of children singing the song, Yes,

1470
01:10:15,280 --> 01:10:16,480
Speaker 3: acquiring Children.

1471
01:10:16,640 --> 01:10:19,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was gonna say, or a slowed down version

1472
01:10:19,160 --> 01:10:22,599
Speaker 4: of a Gautier's Now you're just somebody that I used.

1473
01:10:22,439 --> 01:10:23,720
Speaker 3: To know, do you know what I want to hear

1474
01:10:23,800 --> 01:10:27,480
Speaker 3: slowed down in moody is uh, what's that song Blue Babadida?

1475
01:10:27,760 --> 01:10:29,840
Speaker 4: Hell yeah, what's that one? Apost sixty five is Blu

1476
01:10:29,920 --> 01:10:33,840
Speaker 4: Dabadi dabad If you slowed that down from their hit

1477
01:10:33,920 --> 01:10:37,320
Speaker 4: album Europop, put that over a horror trailer now that

1478
01:10:37,560 --> 01:10:40,599
Speaker 4: I'm on board with, Yes, you gotta pick the right

1479
01:10:41,600 --> 01:10:44,960
Speaker 4: upbeat number. It would be about vampire people or would it

1480
01:10:45,000 --> 01:10:50,000
Speaker 4: be about aliens, maybe corpses rising up the blue corpses

1481
01:10:50,000 --> 01:10:52,080
Speaker 4: of maybe they're from the ocean, their frozen.

1482
01:10:52,840 --> 01:10:58,040
Speaker 3: Come on, it writes itself, that's hot. Okay, until that

1483
01:10:58,160 --> 01:11:02,240
Speaker 3: has been done, it's it's a curse. But I mean

1484
01:11:02,280 --> 01:11:06,479
Speaker 3: the genre is could turn things around. So hopefully there's

1485
01:11:06,479 --> 01:11:10,840
Speaker 3: some trailer editor somewhere listening thinking I've got my song. Okay, okay,

1486
01:11:10,880 --> 01:11:12,840
Speaker 3: so you've gotten one right so far, that's very good.

1487
01:11:13,120 --> 01:11:15,280
Speaker 3: Number two This is from someone named Robert Gift her

1488
01:11:15,280 --> 01:11:18,599
Speaker 3: a curse Audience Q and a's curse.

1489
01:11:19,200 --> 01:11:22,800
Speaker 4: Why I one time saw an audience Q and A

1490
01:11:23,120 --> 01:11:28,879
Speaker 4: with the very, the very genius Amy Sedaris. Oh and

1491
01:11:29,320 --> 01:11:33,719
Speaker 4: you know Amy Sidarius. Unfortunately is her her Her fans

1492
01:11:34,520 --> 01:11:41,200
Speaker 4: run the gamut, and some of her fans suck. And

1493
01:11:41,360 --> 01:11:44,040
Speaker 4: I was at one such Q and A where people

1494
01:11:44,240 --> 01:11:49,639
Speaker 4: kept asking weirdo questions like one person and she's asking,

1495
01:11:49,800 --> 01:11:54,679
Speaker 4: she's answering thoughtful questions about her childhood, her brother, her

1496
01:11:55,200 --> 01:11:58,320
Speaker 4: relationship to comedy, and people kept raising their hands. One

1497
01:11:58,320 --> 01:12:02,960
Speaker 4: guy in particular, I'll never forget, raised his hand to ask, uh, Jerry.

1498
01:12:03,400 --> 01:12:04,479
Speaker 3: Said, Jerry or Amy whatever.

1499
01:12:04,520 --> 01:12:07,880
Speaker 4: But he was like, how do you spell fandango?

1500
01:12:09,360 --> 01:12:10,520
Speaker 3: How do you spell victory?

1501
01:12:10,680 --> 01:12:11,080
Speaker 2: Oh?

1502
01:12:11,320 --> 01:12:13,280
Speaker 4: No? And she was like what He was.

1503
01:12:13,240 --> 01:12:16,719
Speaker 3: Like, victory? How do you spell victory? Oh my god?

1504
01:12:16,880 --> 01:12:20,960
Speaker 4: And she was like, oh, oh, fandango, fandango. And then

1505
01:12:21,000 --> 01:12:25,840
Speaker 4: he was like, oh, so that would be mortified.

1506
01:12:26,040 --> 01:12:27,679
Speaker 3: I wouldn't be able to leave my seat. I would

1507
01:12:28,280 --> 01:12:33,720
Speaker 3: just be ash. The secondhand embarrassment for that person that

1508
01:12:33,880 --> 01:12:34,920
Speaker 3: is mortifying.

1509
01:12:35,000 --> 01:12:37,759
Speaker 4: It was awful. So that's when I and you, literally

1510
01:12:37,800 --> 01:12:39,960
Speaker 4: just you saying that went took me back.

1511
01:12:39,800 --> 01:12:42,800
Speaker 3: To that moment and you took me there. I took it.

1512
01:12:43,240 --> 01:12:46,759
Speaker 3: That's why I think it's a curse. Oh that poor woman. Yeah,

1513
01:12:46,800 --> 01:12:48,760
Speaker 3: to be hounded by that sort of person, that.

1514
01:12:48,760 --> 01:12:50,679
Speaker 4: Kind of person who is just like, I'm actually being

1515
01:12:50,680 --> 01:12:52,760
Speaker 4: a real person and talking to you can Yeah, I

1516
01:12:52,800 --> 01:12:53,120
Speaker 4: get it.

1517
01:12:53,160 --> 01:12:59,280
Speaker 3: I said my TV show. Yeah, so humiliating. I mean, look,

1518
01:12:59,320 --> 01:13:02,479
Speaker 3: I've given it the answer away. Yeah, they're the worst

1519
01:13:02,520 --> 01:13:03,160
Speaker 3: thing in the world.

1520
01:13:04,160 --> 01:13:04,360
Speaker 4: All.

1521
01:13:04,439 --> 01:13:06,839
Speaker 3: I don't care if it's the creator of the universe.

1522
01:13:06,960 --> 01:13:07,160
Speaker 4: I know.

1523
01:13:07,439 --> 01:13:09,679
Speaker 3: I don't want to be stuck in an audience where

1524
01:13:09,760 --> 01:13:12,639
Speaker 3: strangers are going to have a microphone. No, I've never

1525
01:13:12,720 --> 01:13:15,040
Speaker 3: enjoyed one. It always goes way longer. There's always the

1526
01:13:15,160 --> 01:13:17,320
Speaker 3: ten second pause where it feels like we get to

1527
01:13:17,320 --> 01:13:20,080
Speaker 3: go home, yeah, and then somebody traps you again.

1528
01:13:20,280 --> 01:13:24,360
Speaker 4: Yep. Yes. Also someone recently with Elizabeth Berkeley at the

1529
01:13:24,400 --> 01:13:26,680
Speaker 4: Academy Museum, huh, because they were showing show growth at

1530
01:13:26,680 --> 01:13:30,479
Speaker 4: the Academy Museum. Guess what that also attracted shock the

1531
01:13:30,960 --> 01:13:31,679
Speaker 4: unique people.

1532
01:13:32,400 --> 01:13:34,840
Speaker 3: There's always someone trying to prove something that they know

1533
01:13:34,920 --> 01:13:39,519
Speaker 3: about the person exactly. It's rarely like an intelligent, interesting

1534
01:13:39,600 --> 01:13:42,120
Speaker 3: question that you'll get a good answer. There's nothing good

1535
01:13:42,160 --> 01:13:45,200
Speaker 3: about them. I wasn't one recently, kind of against my will,

1536
01:13:45,320 --> 01:13:48,240
Speaker 3: so that's even worse. Yeah, but there were no questions

1537
01:13:48,320 --> 01:13:50,200
Speaker 3: being asked because no one was interested in what was

1538
01:13:50,240 --> 01:13:53,160
Speaker 3: being shown, and it felt like we were going to

1539
01:13:53,200 --> 01:13:55,680
Speaker 3: get to go home, and then the creator said, come on,

1540
01:13:55,840 --> 01:13:59,120
Speaker 3: ask some questions. If you have to say that to

1541
01:13:59,200 --> 01:14:03,479
Speaker 3: an audience a few, that's a pretty clear sign that

1542
01:14:03,520 --> 01:14:08,280
Speaker 3: no one is interested in asking questions. Oh, agony, absolute hell.

1543
01:14:09,479 --> 01:14:12,400
Speaker 4: Like the creator last I'm sure I didn't like him

1544
01:14:12,400 --> 01:14:14,479
Speaker 4: to begin with. I was there against my will, amen,

1545
01:14:14,680 --> 01:14:17,000
Speaker 4: and I really sealed the deal on this person.

1546
01:14:17,080 --> 01:14:20,479
Speaker 3: Can't wait to hear this is lat But yeah, audience

1547
01:14:20,560 --> 01:14:22,799
Speaker 3: Q and A is nothing good comes from them except

1548
01:14:22,840 --> 01:14:26,719
Speaker 3: for an extended period of time after whatever you just enjoyed.

1549
01:14:26,840 --> 01:14:29,800
Speaker 4: It's like watching two people masturbate. Yes, you're watching the

1550
01:14:30,360 --> 01:14:33,240
Speaker 4: question ask for masturbate. You're watching the man answering the

1551
01:14:33,320 --> 01:14:34,120
Speaker 4: question masturbate.

1552
01:14:34,240 --> 01:14:36,920
Speaker 3: No, it's like watching the person on stage get trapped

1553
01:14:36,960 --> 01:14:39,360
Speaker 3: in an alley and with the person masturbating.

1554
01:14:39,920 --> 01:14:45,479
Speaker 4: Yeah. Awful, awful, horrible experience, disgusting, vile piece of human culture.

1555
01:14:46,120 --> 01:14:50,000
Speaker 3: Okay, so you've gotten too right. That's very nice. Yes, okay.

1556
01:14:50,080 --> 01:14:52,200
Speaker 3: Final one This is from someone named John Gift to

1557
01:14:52,280 --> 01:14:55,360
Speaker 3: a curse when someone uses your driveway to back up

1558
01:14:55,360 --> 01:14:58,760
Speaker 3: and turn around because they got lost. I really like

1559
01:14:58,840 --> 01:15:00,080
Speaker 3: that suggestion. A.

1560
01:15:01,960 --> 01:15:07,120
Speaker 4: I mean, we were talking about the strangers today. I'm

1561
01:15:07,160 --> 01:15:10,240
Speaker 4: gonna I'm just my gut says curse. I don't see

1562
01:15:10,240 --> 01:15:13,120
Speaker 4: how it could be a gift. I mean those again,

1563
01:15:13,160 --> 01:15:16,719
Speaker 4: those ten seconds of anxiety is no, I'm so sorry,

1564
01:15:16,720 --> 01:15:17,599
Speaker 4: but it's a curse.

1565
01:15:18,800 --> 01:15:23,360
Speaker 3: Oh mono, Oh what a shame to see you fall

1566
01:15:23,439 --> 01:15:27,240
Speaker 3: on your face in the final it's a gift, Tell

1567
01:15:27,320 --> 01:15:30,400
Speaker 3: me more gift. You get to do a little piece

1568
01:15:30,439 --> 01:15:33,080
Speaker 3: of you know, charity work with nowhere you don't have

1569
01:15:33,120 --> 01:15:37,120
Speaker 3: to lift a finger. Oh, my driveway is your driveway.

1570
01:15:37,320 --> 01:15:41,720
Speaker 3: That's really baseline. We get that. Remember, you get a

1571
01:15:41,720 --> 01:15:45,400
Speaker 3: little maybe you do get spooked. An old pickup truck

1572
01:15:45,520 --> 01:15:48,519
Speaker 3: rambles into the backyard. You're like, what's gonna coming? What

1573
01:15:48,640 --> 01:15:50,880
Speaker 3: is happening? Why are they backing in? What do they

1574
01:15:50,880 --> 01:15:51,559
Speaker 3: have planned?

1575
01:15:51,800 --> 01:15:52,040
Speaker 4: Uh?

1576
01:15:52,520 --> 01:15:55,280
Speaker 3: Your heart is pounding, your sweating, you're watching.

1577
01:15:55,000 --> 01:15:58,280
Speaker 4: Just you and let me get this right. They're backing

1578
01:15:58,360 --> 01:16:01,560
Speaker 4: in or going forward because one is scarier.

1579
01:16:01,680 --> 01:16:03,519
Speaker 3: Well, it seems like they can do well. This is

1580
01:16:03,640 --> 01:16:06,519
Speaker 3: specifically uses your driveway to back up and turn around.

1581
01:16:07,280 --> 01:16:08,200
Speaker 3: Even scarier.

1582
01:16:08,760 --> 01:16:11,799
Speaker 4: Even scarier if someone was going into my driveway butt first,

1583
01:16:12,160 --> 01:16:14,479
Speaker 4: as if they're ready to load the cargo bay of

1584
01:16:14,520 --> 01:16:19,800
Speaker 4: their truck with my body, that's even scarier. But I

1585
01:16:19,840 --> 01:16:22,160
Speaker 4: accept that I'm wrong. I do accept that.

1586
01:16:22,439 --> 01:16:25,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a I mean, there's no question that it's

1587
01:16:25,160 --> 01:16:27,280
Speaker 3: a gift, and for you to just kind of stupidly

1588
01:16:27,360 --> 01:16:31,200
Speaker 3: say that it's a curse is embarrassing. Yeah, we can't

1589
01:16:31,320 --> 01:16:34,080
Speaker 3: edit that, Aisle. It's now part of the public record.

1590
01:16:34,160 --> 01:16:38,360
Speaker 3: And yeah, unfortunately, now you're kind of solely as a podcaster. Yeah,

1591
01:16:38,439 --> 01:16:40,000
Speaker 3: that's people can't trust you anymore.

1592
01:16:40,080 --> 01:16:43,479
Speaker 4: Before this, everyone was tuning in subscribing to drag her,

1593
01:16:43,520 --> 01:16:45,600
Speaker 4: and now they're like, wait a second, this guy's a

1594
01:16:45,640 --> 01:16:46,439
Speaker 4: fucking moron.

1595
01:16:47,800 --> 01:16:48,479
Speaker 3: I've been duped.

1596
01:16:50,439 --> 01:16:52,080
Speaker 4: Well, you got two out of three. I feel good

1597
01:16:52,080 --> 01:16:56,320
Speaker 4: about that. Not too bad, No, I feel great about that. Well, look,

1598
01:16:56,760 --> 01:17:00,519
Speaker 4: don't run away like that. You're like, it's sixty six percent.

1599
01:17:00,720 --> 01:17:01,320
Speaker 4: It's a failing.

1600
01:17:02,600 --> 01:17:06,000
Speaker 3: Yeah. This is the final segment of the podcast. It's

1601
01:17:06,040 --> 01:17:08,160
Speaker 3: called I Said no emails. People write into I Said

1602
01:17:08,160 --> 01:17:11,160
Speaker 3: no gifts at gmail dot com. Okay, every one of

1603
01:17:11,200 --> 01:17:14,479
Speaker 3: them is just howling and begging for answers about something

1604
01:17:14,479 --> 01:17:16,360
Speaker 3: in their life. Will you help me answer a question?

1605
01:17:16,479 --> 01:17:19,759
Speaker 4: Absolutely, one of these banshees. Let's let's let's let's silence

1606
01:17:19,800 --> 01:17:20,719
Speaker 4: one of these creatures.

1607
01:17:21,600 --> 01:17:25,040
Speaker 3: Okay, let's get into the dog here. Okay, this is dear,

1608
01:17:25,160 --> 01:17:28,519
Speaker 3: completely correct oh this is nice, dear, completely correct bridger

1609
01:17:29,120 --> 01:17:32,679
Speaker 3: and always entertaining guests. That's for debate, but I don't

1610
01:17:32,680 --> 01:17:36,280
Speaker 3: know about today. Let me start by saying, I try

1611
01:17:36,280 --> 01:17:38,840
Speaker 3: to respect other people's time and apologize for taking up

1612
01:17:38,840 --> 01:17:42,679
Speaker 3: your valuable time with this dilemma. Wow, just immediately apologizing, Yeah,

1613
01:17:42,720 --> 01:17:46,599
Speaker 3: I appreciate it. My problem is I am always vexed

1614
01:17:46,600 --> 01:17:51,520
Speaker 3: with someone when someone calls without texting first, many friends parentheses.

1615
01:17:51,680 --> 01:17:55,000
Speaker 3: Most x mostly ex friends now only call when it's

1616
01:17:55,040 --> 01:17:58,679
Speaker 3: convenient for them while walking the dog, standing in lines,

1617
01:17:58,760 --> 01:18:01,959
Speaker 3: or when needing something. I respond by always being respectful

1618
01:18:02,000 --> 01:18:04,160
Speaker 3: of their time and texting first to ask if this

1619
01:18:04,200 --> 01:18:06,760
Speaker 3: is a good time to call. I can always ditch

1620
01:18:06,880 --> 01:18:10,679
Speaker 3: disrespectful friends, but it's harder to ditch a sibling. Over

1621
01:18:10,720 --> 01:18:13,200
Speaker 3: the years, my sister continues to call only when it

1622
01:18:13,280 --> 01:18:16,200
Speaker 3: suits her schedule, when driving in cars, waiting in the

1623
01:18:16,240 --> 01:18:21,160
Speaker 3: Starbucks lines, or hauling multiple horses on a busy. For you,

1624
01:18:20,600 --> 01:18:23,400
Speaker 3: we'll have to take a look at whatever that means.

1625
01:18:24,000 --> 01:18:27,799
Speaker 3: Of course, I have asked her to text first before calling,

1626
01:18:27,840 --> 01:18:30,800
Speaker 3: but she is somewhat adhd and never really listens. My

1627
01:18:30,920 --> 01:18:33,480
Speaker 3: question is this, Do I let go of this generalized

1628
01:18:33,479 --> 01:18:37,519
Speaker 3: annoyance and wrath or is my rage justified such a

1629
01:18:37,520 --> 01:18:41,360
Speaker 3: big fan and always listening Lisa from Seattle or maybe

1630
01:18:41,439 --> 01:18:43,479
Speaker 3: Liza from Seattle. I think those are the two options.

1631
01:18:43,560 --> 01:18:46,120
Speaker 3: With an l I Z A l I. I guess

1632
01:18:46,200 --> 01:18:50,320
Speaker 3: it might be Liza, Liza with a Z, Liza Liza Losa,

1633
01:18:50,400 --> 01:18:52,440
Speaker 3: Laza Lazza.

1634
01:18:52,160 --> 01:18:56,760
Speaker 4: And sometimes Liza with a Y. I really think it's

1635
01:18:56,760 --> 01:18:57,439
Speaker 4: okay to call.

1636
01:18:57,640 --> 01:18:59,479
Speaker 3: You think it's okay to call without a text?

1637
01:19:00,000 --> 01:19:02,200
Speaker 4: Okay, here's my I think there are two etiquette rules

1638
01:19:02,200 --> 01:19:04,559
Speaker 4: in the year of twenty twenty four, text before you

1639
01:19:04,640 --> 01:19:07,760
Speaker 4: call or text after you call? Oh?

1640
01:19:07,800 --> 01:19:09,439
Speaker 3: Interesting? And what is the after call? Text?

1641
01:19:09,520 --> 01:19:11,479
Speaker 4: If you do if you call them they don't answer,

1642
01:19:11,600 --> 01:19:14,120
Speaker 4: go hey, no big deal, but call me back. I

1643
01:19:14,200 --> 01:19:17,400
Speaker 4: just wanted to catch up, okay, So that then sets

1644
01:19:17,400 --> 01:19:19,600
Speaker 4: an expectation for the person just called, so they're not

1645
01:19:19,720 --> 01:19:21,840
Speaker 4: on edge of like, oh, fox, someone just called me.

1646
01:19:21,920 --> 01:19:23,400
Speaker 3: Right, what's the emergency? Right?

1647
01:19:23,479 --> 01:19:26,519
Speaker 4: Who's hurt? I think both were call text before or

1648
01:19:26,560 --> 01:19:29,160
Speaker 4: text after in the year of twenty twenty four.

1649
01:19:29,560 --> 01:19:33,880
Speaker 3: Okay, interesting, and you know I think no text is

1650
01:19:33,920 --> 01:19:36,760
Speaker 3: needed okay for me? If someone texts can I call you?

1651
01:19:37,840 --> 01:19:39,960
Speaker 3: It actually makes the call seem more serious.

1652
01:19:40,040 --> 01:19:40,639
Speaker 4: I agree.

1653
01:19:40,680 --> 01:19:43,200
Speaker 3: Actually, then there's like, oh god, what do they have

1654
01:19:43,280 --> 01:19:46,880
Speaker 3: to talk about? Yeah, awful feeling. Yeah, I would rather

1655
01:19:47,080 --> 01:19:50,240
Speaker 3: just give me a buzz I'll answer or not leave

1656
01:19:50,280 --> 01:19:53,080
Speaker 3: a voicemail, feel free, text after, do whatever you want,

1657
01:19:53,240 --> 01:19:57,400
Speaker 3: don't leave just a mist call. Texting after is good,

1658
01:19:57,720 --> 01:20:02,280
Speaker 3: voicemail is good, But to text beforehand. I'm not on

1659
01:20:02,320 --> 01:20:05,920
Speaker 3: your side at all. Lisa, Liza Lisa. I think this

1660
01:20:05,920 --> 01:20:08,240
Speaker 3: person is actively trying to remove friends from her life.

1661
01:20:08,240 --> 01:20:11,040
Speaker 3: She's deeply unpopular. Now she's going to lose a sibling

1662
01:20:11,080 --> 01:20:15,479
Speaker 3: who she's diagnosed with ADHD on a podcast, which to

1663
01:20:15,520 --> 01:20:20,320
Speaker 3: me is I mean, it's such a line cross. It

1664
01:20:20,360 --> 01:20:22,920
Speaker 3: seems like, I mean, what is Liza Lisa doing that's

1665
01:20:22,960 --> 01:20:25,000
Speaker 3: so important that she can't just get a call?

1666
01:20:25,760 --> 01:20:29,040
Speaker 4: I have to agree. I have to agree you can

1667
01:20:29,120 --> 01:20:29,679
Speaker 4: get a call.

1668
01:20:29,920 --> 01:20:32,120
Speaker 3: Appreciate that there's somebody out there with your phone number.

1669
01:20:32,200 --> 01:20:34,160
Speaker 4: I wonder what their age is, because I think that,

1670
01:20:34,280 --> 01:20:37,160
Speaker 4: you know, obviously the younger and the younger. Younger and

1671
01:20:37,200 --> 01:20:40,320
Speaker 4: younger people find calls more and more obtrusive.

1672
01:20:40,080 --> 01:20:43,479
Speaker 3: You think, so, I feel like there's a turnaround happening.

1673
01:20:43,560 --> 01:20:48,559
Speaker 4: Maybe maybe, But I mean, I'll be honest. I still

1674
01:20:48,640 --> 01:20:52,680
Speaker 4: when I get a call like I usually get excitement

1675
01:20:52,840 --> 01:20:55,639
Speaker 4: unless I it is one of the two, excitement or dread,

1676
01:20:56,800 --> 01:20:57,639
Speaker 4: not right in the middle.

1677
01:20:57,720 --> 01:20:59,479
Speaker 3: That's kind of how I live my life at this point,

1678
01:21:00,160 --> 01:21:02,840
Speaker 3: checking the absolute best thing to happen or the absolute worst.

1679
01:21:03,560 --> 01:21:07,439
Speaker 3: Not able to moderate my feelings in any way. Absolutely, Yeah, Yeah,

1680
01:21:07,479 --> 01:21:07,800
Speaker 3: I can't.

1681
01:21:07,840 --> 01:21:14,519
Speaker 4: I can't. I'm unreliable, I'm topsy turvy. But okay, I

1682
01:21:14,560 --> 01:21:17,320
Speaker 4: think we can both agree. Text after a call is nice.

1683
01:21:17,520 --> 01:21:20,320
Speaker 3: Yes, leave a text or send a Do you like

1684
01:21:20,360 --> 01:21:21,759
Speaker 3: a voice note? Voice message?

1685
01:21:21,800 --> 01:21:22,479
Speaker 4: I would love that.

1686
01:21:22,640 --> 01:21:23,479
Speaker 3: I love those.

1687
01:21:23,600 --> 01:21:26,840
Speaker 4: A voice memo is even better than a voicemail. We

1688
01:21:26,880 --> 01:21:27,519
Speaker 4: can agree on that.

1689
01:21:27,680 --> 01:21:30,040
Speaker 3: Oh that's what I was talking about. H Yeah, I

1690
01:21:30,040 --> 01:21:33,720
Speaker 3: think that's kind of the future. Yeah, just send your thoughts,

1691
01:21:34,120 --> 01:21:36,480
Speaker 3: record your miniature podcast for whoever.

1692
01:21:36,520 --> 01:21:38,960
Speaker 4: Why and that that you just yeah, because voicemails are

1693
01:21:39,000 --> 01:21:40,880
Speaker 4: more aggressive than voice memos.

1694
01:21:40,640 --> 01:21:42,960
Speaker 3: Right, because the voicemail feels like, oh, you've wounded me

1695
01:21:43,000 --> 01:21:45,400
Speaker 3: and now I'm going to leave you with something, whereas

1696
01:21:45,520 --> 01:21:47,920
Speaker 3: the voice memo is I'm just thinking of you. I'm

1697
01:21:47,920 --> 01:21:52,120
Speaker 3: sending you, yes a message. Maybe I'm driving a little gift, right,

1698
01:21:52,200 --> 01:21:56,040
Speaker 3: maybe you know, they're more entertaining. Yeah, gotta keep the

1699
01:21:56,080 --> 01:21:57,920
Speaker 3: time limit down.

1700
01:21:58,360 --> 01:21:58,920
Speaker 4: I agree.

1701
01:21:59,000 --> 01:22:02,519
Speaker 3: So just call or call then text yes, or send

1702
01:22:02,680 --> 01:22:07,200
Speaker 3: several angry voice memos that too, one after another. Don't

1703
01:22:07,240 --> 01:22:09,680
Speaker 3: complete thoughts, just keep recording and sending.

1704
01:22:09,720 --> 01:22:15,160
Speaker 4: Mid scream, ending a voicemament mid scream is great. You what,

1705
01:22:16,080 --> 01:22:17,639
Speaker 4: That's fantastic if you can.

1706
01:22:17,520 --> 01:22:21,920
Speaker 3: Do that, Lise, Eliza, I think you've got your answer there.

1707
01:22:22,320 --> 01:22:25,280
Speaker 3: Take some phone calls, enjoy the spontaneity of just your

1708
01:22:25,280 --> 01:22:28,640
Speaker 3: phone ringing, see what's on the other end, even if

1709
01:22:28,640 --> 01:22:30,240
Speaker 3: they're just using you emotionally.

1710
01:22:30,479 --> 01:22:33,880
Speaker 4: Absolutely, you can be used. My God, be glad that

1711
01:22:33,960 --> 01:22:35,400
Speaker 4: anyone's calling you.

1712
01:22:35,400 --> 01:22:36,599
Speaker 3: You could be very lonely.

1713
01:22:36,800 --> 01:22:37,960
Speaker 4: You could be very lonely.

1714
01:22:38,320 --> 01:22:48,320
Speaker 3: You could, you know what, Liza, don't write back, man, No,

1715
01:22:48,400 --> 01:22:51,439
Speaker 3: I've had such a wonderful time, man, I mean, despite

1716
01:22:51,520 --> 01:22:56,760
Speaker 3: being given to trick lipsticks absolutely worthless to you, to

1717
01:22:56,960 --> 01:22:58,320
Speaker 3: kind of just empty little boxes.

1718
01:22:58,400 --> 01:22:59,719
Speaker 4: I do hope you'll throw them away.

1719
01:23:00,320 --> 01:23:03,080
Speaker 3: They will not be thrown away. Oh, these will be kept,

1720
01:23:04,200 --> 01:23:05,680
Speaker 3: to be kept and to be displayed.

1721
01:23:05,840 --> 01:23:07,559
Speaker 4: That's very kind of you to say. But it's okay

1722
01:23:07,560 --> 01:23:08,360
Speaker 4: if you change your mind.

1723
01:23:08,400 --> 01:23:10,240
Speaker 3: I won't. I mean, there's a chance at a live show.

1724
01:23:10,280 --> 01:23:12,200
Speaker 3: At some point I give one to an audience member.

1725
01:23:12,280 --> 01:23:12,479
Speaker 4: Good.

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Speaker 3: But you know this could have a utility and being

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Speaker 3: a container.

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Speaker 4: You know there are women who want to make their

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Speaker 4: own lipsticks oh interesting and put them in cases.

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Speaker 3: Maybe that's what I do my pivot. That's what this

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Speaker 3: is to lipstick manufacturing.

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Speaker 4: It's really funny. No, it's been such a damn tree.

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Speaker 4: Thank you so much for.

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Speaker 3: Having Thank you for being here, listener. Podcast is over.

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Speaker 3: I hope you've been able to just pull yourself together.

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01:23:38,000 --> 01:23:41,040
Speaker 3: I know that we've been had some real lows on

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Speaker 3: this episode talking about the world. But everything's fine. The

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01:23:45,880 --> 01:23:48,800
Speaker 3: podcast is over. Try to remain calm. We're all trying

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01:23:48,840 --> 01:23:57,240
Speaker 3: to remain calm. I love you, goodbye. I said, No

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01:23:57,320 --> 01:24:00,840
Speaker 3: Gifts is an exactly right production produce by our dear

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01:24:00,880 --> 01:24:04,440
Speaker 3: friend Analise Nelson, and it's beautifully mixed by Ben Holliday.

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01:24:04,720 --> 01:24:08,160
Speaker 3: And we couldn't do it without our guest booker, Patrick Coottner.

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01:24:08,479 --> 01:24:12,360
Speaker 3: The theme song, of course, could only come from miracle

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Speaker 3: worker Amy Mann. You must follow the show on Instagram.

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01:24:16,400 --> 01:24:18,160
Speaker 3: At I said no Gifts, I don't want to hear

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01:24:18,200 --> 01:24:20,640
Speaker 3: any excuses. That's where you get to see pictures of

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01:24:20,640 --> 01:24:22,880
Speaker 3: all these gorgeous gifts I'm getting, And don't you want

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01:24:22,880 --> 01:24:28,280
Speaker 3: to see pictures of the gifts? And I invited you, hear.

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Speaker 1: Funa man myself perfectly clear. When you're a guest to me,

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01:24:38,439 --> 01:24:44,720
Speaker 1: you gotta come to me empty. And I said, no, guests,

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01:24:44,800 --> 01:24:51,679
Speaker 1: your presences presents enough and I'm already too much stuff.

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Speaker 2: So how do you dare to survey me? The n