WEBVTT - #540 - Too $hort 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:00.800 Yo, what's up y'all? 0:00:00.920 --> 0:00:03.560 Ship boy too short, make sure you check me out 0:00:03.840 --> 0:00:07.120 on the Bootleg keV Podcast Dope Show. 0:00:07.320 --> 0:00:09.760 Hey, before we start the episode, we're gonna remind everybody, man, 0:00:09.760 --> 0:00:11.600 we got one of the biggest radio shows in the 0:00:11.640 --> 0:00:15.840 country syndicated in almost one hundred cities all over. Shout 0:00:15.880 --> 0:00:18.960 out to iHeartRadio. All right, some of the latest cities 0:00:19.000 --> 0:00:20.759 that we've been able to add. Man, We want to 0:00:20.800 --> 0:00:22.560 give a shout out to ninety three point nine and 0:00:22.600 --> 0:00:25.560 the Beat in Honolulu. That's right, Hawaii, we over there 0:00:25.600 --> 0:00:27.960 going crazy. 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Man, we have got a legend, my first 0:01:01.640 --> 0:01:05.039 favorite rapper of all time, Too Short. 0:01:05.240 --> 0:01:08.320 It's in the motherfucking building. What's up, God, how you doing, 0:01:08.360 --> 0:01:13.440 brother running Man? Just living living legendary for sure. Yeah. 0:01:13.520 --> 0:01:15.839 Look, man, uh, you know you're one of them guys, 0:01:15.880 --> 0:01:17.600 man who just meant so much to my life and 0:01:17.640 --> 0:01:20.880 like my childhood. And you know, I remember the first 0:01:20.920 --> 0:01:23.360 time I heard cuss words and you were like the 0:01:23.360 --> 0:01:25.000 only rapper my dad fucked us. 0:01:25.760 --> 0:01:28.200 I hear this so much. Yeah, my dad was like 0:01:28.240 --> 0:01:30.240 an old white dude. He fucking loved Too Short. 0:01:30.280 --> 0:01:32.039 But you know, I just think it's it's the ship 0:01:32.120 --> 0:01:35.319 talking man, It's it's the comedy. It's like the it's 0:01:35.360 --> 0:01:39.640 at the time it was. It was in this little 0:01:39.680 --> 0:01:42.480 space where nobody was even doing it, like quite like 0:01:42.520 --> 0:01:42.880 I was. 0:01:43.000 --> 0:01:45.040 So I had a little, a little laying to myself 0:01:45.080 --> 0:01:45.800 for quite a while. 0:01:46.600 --> 0:01:49.520 Yeah, I think obviously, uh, there's a shot to the 0:01:49.520 --> 0:01:52.640 new movie that drop over our boy Simba plays you. Yeah, 0:01:52.760 --> 0:01:54.440 did he have to tap in with you? I mean 0:01:54.480 --> 0:01:56.640 he has to know your mannerisms. But obviously, like he 0:01:56.840 --> 0:01:58.480 killed it. He looked just like you too, Like it 0:01:58.480 --> 0:01:59.279 looks kind of crazy. 0:01:59.400 --> 0:02:01.480 I just named it couple of music videos. He called 0:02:01.520 --> 0:02:04.000 me said, I just want to get a little insight. 0:02:04.440 --> 0:02:06.480 I just named him. I said, watch these two videos 0:02:07.040 --> 0:02:09.440 and then called mister Fab and whatever he tells you 0:02:09.480 --> 0:02:12.840 that she gets you there because Fab is a good mimicer. 0:02:12.919 --> 0:02:15.200 He kind of knows his good his story, and he 0:02:15.200 --> 0:02:18.040 can do people's style, rap, he can do your voice, 0:02:18.040 --> 0:02:21.240 he can do everything. I saw some footage of Fab 0:02:21.280 --> 0:02:23.760 when he was young and he was mimicking me, So 0:02:23.800 --> 0:02:24.600 I'm like, he'd be a. 0:02:24.520 --> 0:02:27.040 Good reference for you. Yeah, Like, I can't tell you 0:02:27.120 --> 0:02:28.680 he's got the tics. Yeah, I can tell you how 0:02:28.720 --> 0:02:31.360 to impersonate me. Just watch. 0:02:31.919 --> 0:02:35.320 Yeah, you were watching your whole life. It's crazy, yo. 0:02:35.440 --> 0:02:38.519 You uh so someone kind of broke it down. Some 0:02:38.840 --> 0:02:40.720 shit you're working on. You and Little John got a 0:02:40.720 --> 0:02:41.399 whole album coming. 0:02:41.600 --> 0:02:42.239 Yeah. 0:02:42.680 --> 0:02:46.200 So for people who are not aware, I kind of 0:02:46.440 --> 0:02:50.600 give you a lot of credit to obviously the Bay Area, 0:02:51.240 --> 0:02:54.639 but there was this Atlanta era that you were very 0:02:54.680 --> 0:02:58.360 instrumental in bringing to the forefront of like commercial music, 0:02:58.360 --> 0:03:00.320 and and Little John on the East Side boys. Remember 0:03:00.320 --> 0:03:02.400 that first song I ever heard you on with them, 0:03:02.440 --> 0:03:05.080 It's my Shit let my Nuts Go. 0:03:06.560 --> 0:03:08.200 That's super underground by the way, too. 0:03:08.320 --> 0:03:11.800 But it was, Oh my god, that song is a classic, 0:03:11.919 --> 0:03:13.440 and that was the first, like the end of it 0:03:13.480 --> 0:03:14.840 when Little John's like. 0:03:14.800 --> 0:03:16.680 I heard you all on my nuts like a trick. 0:03:17.000 --> 0:03:18.799 I heard you was at jail house, bitch. 0:03:20.280 --> 0:03:24.000 But you had like a lot to do with the 0:03:24.120 --> 0:03:28.000 crunk era kind of being pushed through on the mainstream 0:03:28.080 --> 0:03:29.640 front in terms of like you were like one of 0:03:29.639 --> 0:03:33.960 the first artists outside of the South that embraced that. 0:03:34.160 --> 0:03:36.080 I mean, obviously, you know you worked with three six 0:03:36.120 --> 0:03:37.560 month you back in the day two and all that, 0:03:37.960 --> 0:03:40.680 But what was that cause what what year did you 0:03:40.720 --> 0:03:42.440 end up moving to Atlanta ninety three? 0:03:43.200 --> 0:03:44.400 Crazy ninety three. 0:03:44.480 --> 0:03:46.440 Yeah, it wasn't a lot. It wasn't a lot of 0:03:46.520 --> 0:03:48.720 music going on out there. The Face Records was there 0:03:49.000 --> 0:03:51.920 out Cast, I mean Outcast was a year after I 0:03:52.040 --> 0:03:54.560 moved there, but it was when I first got there, 0:03:54.560 --> 0:03:57.880 it was like TLC and Tony Braxton. The Face was 0:03:57.920 --> 0:04:00.480 like in a real R and B space. They hadn't 0:04:00.560 --> 0:04:04.080 yet done Outcash yet, and there was some things moving around. 0:04:04.160 --> 0:04:07.400 Jermaine Dupree was was active, but he definitely he was 0:04:07.480 --> 0:04:09.360 just doing criss cross and it was you know, it 0:04:09.400 --> 0:04:12.240 was it was. It was a good time to be 0:04:12.280 --> 0:04:14.520 in Atlanta because big things were about to happen. 0:04:14.720 --> 0:04:15.000 But my. 0:04:16.560 --> 0:04:18.279 Whole thing is a lot of people don't know my 0:04:18.320 --> 0:04:21.440 connection with New Orleans. My mother's from New Orleans, and 0:04:21.480 --> 0:04:24.080 I spent a lot of my childhood in New Orleans. 0:04:24.440 --> 0:04:27.520 So that's a very different sound than anywhere else, with 0:04:27.560 --> 0:04:30.440 the jazz and the second line dancing and just you know, 0:04:30.560 --> 0:04:33.560 my cousins were in marching bands and they were just 0:04:33.640 --> 0:04:36.560 into whatever, you know, the hot dance whatever, And I 0:04:36.640 --> 0:04:39.839 just kind of always had that New Orleans culture embedded 0:04:39.839 --> 0:04:40.080 in me. 0:04:40.160 --> 0:04:42.640 But I'm growing up in LA moved to the Bay. 0:04:42.680 --> 0:04:46.440 I'm getting all these different flavors, and no one really 0:04:46.480 --> 0:04:47.920 knows this unless you really know. 0:04:48.080 --> 0:04:49.159 The two short history. 0:04:49.279 --> 0:04:51.440 I actually lived in Atlanta for about a year when 0:04:51.440 --> 0:04:52.680 I was a kid, a little over a year. 0:04:52.839 --> 0:04:53.080 Wow. 0:04:53.279 --> 0:04:55.599 I was in the seventh grade, part of the seventh 0:04:55.680 --> 0:04:57.840 grade and part of the eighth grade. We moved there, 0:04:58.400 --> 0:05:00.640 and I guess my mother wasn't feeling the vibe and 0:05:00.680 --> 0:05:01.600 we moved. 0:05:01.360 --> 0:05:02.400 Back to California. 0:05:02.760 --> 0:05:06.760 And you know, I just have all these things musically 0:05:07.360 --> 0:05:10.920 in me from a kid. So when I get to Atlanta, 0:05:10.920 --> 0:05:13.719 and I moved to Atlanta, I immediately I'm already on 0:05:14.720 --> 0:05:18.680 you know, probably my fourth platinum album. So I'm showing 0:05:18.760 --> 0:05:22.720 up to Atlanta and I'm on like some Michael Jackson status, 0:05:22.760 --> 0:05:22.960 you know. 0:05:23.279 --> 0:05:25.200 And they were one of the biggest rappers in the world. Yeah, 0:05:25.240 --> 0:05:26.480 they're just like loving too Short. 0:05:26.520 --> 0:05:29.080 So I'm I'm looking at Bobby Brown out there having fun. 0:05:29.080 --> 0:05:32.120 I'm bumping into Tupac. I'm like, oh shit, I'm about 0:05:32.120 --> 0:05:34.120 to have me some fun out here in Atlanta and 0:05:34.720 --> 0:05:36.919 had a lot of fun. But at the same time, 0:05:38.080 --> 0:05:40.440 the music scene was accelerating. It was I mean, it 0:05:40.520 --> 0:05:43.880 was just you know, the Tis and the outcasts were 0:05:43.960 --> 0:05:45.920 just coming, you know, left and right, just new artists, 0:05:45.960 --> 0:05:47.320 and Atlanta was getting hot. 0:05:47.560 --> 0:05:51.720 So the reason why I'm embedded in the. 0:05:51.760 --> 0:05:55.640 Crunk culture is because I was a fan of Little 0:05:55.720 --> 0:05:59.320 John as a DJ. He was also the pretty popular 0:05:59.400 --> 0:06:04.280 DJ before or anybody knew him in the world in Atlanta, 0:06:04.680 --> 0:06:07.320 and he was also producing records for So So Deaf. 0:06:08.000 --> 0:06:09.240 He produced some big records. 0:06:09.240 --> 0:06:12.760 He was in the scene. But I was a real 0:06:12.839 --> 0:06:13.440 big fan. 0:06:13.279 --> 0:06:15.600 Of the way he would dj because he DJed different 0:06:15.839 --> 0:06:19.760 than other DJs. His whole set was all about the crowd. 0:06:20.240 --> 0:06:20.440 You know. 0:06:20.600 --> 0:06:22.719 Mike just he was like doing it like a rapper, 0:06:22.760 --> 0:06:24.839 like he was rocking the crowd, but he was playing 0:06:24.839 --> 0:06:27.279 songs and his parties would just go up, and I 0:06:27.320 --> 0:06:28.240 was like, I like this dude. 0:06:28.240 --> 0:06:29.720 Then he put out he put out a record. 0:06:30.320 --> 0:06:33.400 He put out a record called who You w Yep, 0:06:33.800 --> 0:06:35.839 and nobody was rapping on there. It was a bunch 0:06:35.880 --> 0:06:39.320 of chants. So I just I had not really had 0:06:39.320 --> 0:06:40.920 a relationship. 0:06:40.279 --> 0:06:40.800 With him at all. 0:06:40.839 --> 0:06:44.120 We hadn't talked or we probably said what's up, and 0:06:44.120 --> 0:06:45.560 I just went to one day. I said, man, you 0:06:45.560 --> 0:06:48.159 should have let me do the remix on that song 0:06:48.200 --> 0:06:48.640 and put. 0:06:48.480 --> 0:06:49.200 Some raps on there. 0:06:49.560 --> 0:06:51.120 And he was like, nah, we should just do some 0:06:51.200 --> 0:06:53.440 new shit. And I'm like, all right, we'll come out 0:06:53.480 --> 0:06:56.200 of the studio. And he came by when I wasn't there, 0:06:57.160 --> 0:07:00.280 and he just left this song. It had vocals on it. 0:07:00.279 --> 0:07:02.320 It was the song was called Couldn't be a Better Player? 0:07:02.320 --> 0:07:06.080 That's what I named it. But he was just uh 0:07:06.320 --> 0:07:11.160 doing those chants. He always did those chants, and he 0:07:11.160 --> 0:07:13.120 he left that record. I rapped on it. 0:07:13.160 --> 0:07:16.080 I wrapped three four verses and we shot a video 0:07:16.160 --> 0:07:18.400 to it, and it just became like you know, in 0:07:18.440 --> 0:07:23.160 that region record that was was that, No, it was 0:07:23.200 --> 0:07:24.360 before that you started out. 0:07:24.400 --> 0:07:27.760 I said, you couldn't be a better player to leave it. 0:07:27.800 --> 0:07:29.480 Couldn't be a better player was the first song we 0:07:29.560 --> 0:07:35.080 did it and it just went big. So we just 0:07:35.080 --> 0:07:39.640 started making records together. Little John at the time had 0:07:39.680 --> 0:07:41.160 when he I guess when he put out who You Went? 0:07:41.560 --> 0:07:45.000 He signed who You Wit? He signed to a small 0:07:45.080 --> 0:07:47.400 label and prior to tv T. 0:07:47.720 --> 0:07:50.320 Yeah, yeah, and he was having this dispute. You know, 0:07:50.640 --> 0:07:54.200 they weren't seeing eye to eye. And I always tell 0:07:54.240 --> 0:07:56.040 people it's no gangster shit involved in nothing. 0:07:56.360 --> 0:07:57.160 The guy who. 0:07:58.520 --> 0:08:00.880 Had the contract with John was somebody that I had 0:08:00.880 --> 0:08:04.240 worked with, right, and you know, it was just he. 0:08:04.440 --> 0:08:05.920 I asked Little John was the problem? 0:08:05.920 --> 0:08:09.440 You know? They was both saying f each other. And uh. 0:08:09.480 --> 0:08:11.880 His version was, well, I spent money on Little John 0:08:12.320 --> 0:08:15.360 and I'm not budget. I get my money back back there. 0:08:15.440 --> 0:08:18.160 Little John's version was, well, man, I'm not happy, so 0:08:18.200 --> 0:08:20.720 I'm not making music with him. So I just figured 0:08:20.760 --> 0:08:23.360 out what the amount was, put whatever the sauce on 0:08:23.440 --> 0:08:23.960 it paid him. 0:08:24.000 --> 0:08:26.000 It was like, man, I got business with Little Johnny, and. 0:08:26.000 --> 0:08:27.920 You know it was you know, it wasn't like I 0:08:28.040 --> 0:08:32.160 was buying out some super hot artists or something. But 0:08:32.240 --> 0:08:34.520 Little John had offers on the table like the TVT 0:08:34.640 --> 0:08:36.800 and some other stuff, and it was stopping him from 0:08:37.040 --> 0:08:40.720 from getting there. So I basically just stepped in played 0:08:40.720 --> 0:08:42.600 the stepping stone, you know. 0:08:42.720 --> 0:08:45.400 I said, look, I bought you out the contract you free. 0:08:45.960 --> 0:08:47.600 You know, I could be like saying signed to me 0:08:47.679 --> 0:08:50.640 or something, but I would much rather cause he works 0:08:50.679 --> 0:08:51.440 for so so differ. 0:08:51.720 --> 0:08:53.800 He's a DJ who's breaking records. 0:08:54.640 --> 0:08:57.480 I realized his full potential. He I heard the beats, 0:08:57.920 --> 0:09:01.080 and I'm like, do what you gotta do. Just put 0:09:01.120 --> 0:09:01.520 me on. 0:09:01.440 --> 0:09:03.959 The forever list of Little John beats. You know. 0:09:04.120 --> 0:09:09.440 That was that was my pay and you know it 0:09:09.480 --> 0:09:12.200 paid off. I had people in my earback then going, man. 0:09:12.040 --> 0:09:13.959 That's Little John White and the son you had him. 0:09:14.280 --> 0:09:16.079 I'm like, no, bro, And then you know. 0:09:16.120 --> 0:09:18.200 Fast off because one of the biggest hip hop songs 0:09:18.200 --> 0:09:19.560 of all time ended up being blow the Whistle. 0:09:19.640 --> 0:09:21.440 Yeah, and he did shake that monkey, so he kind 0:09:21.440 --> 0:09:23.720 of which is my ship. So I'm at a point 0:09:23.720 --> 0:09:26.560 in my career when he does those two songs. Two 0:09:26.559 --> 0:09:31.440 thousand and four five was when we recorded him, I'm like, potentially, 0:09:31.480 --> 0:09:34.480 like on the fence, you know, could I go, you know, 0:09:34.640 --> 0:09:37.679 fall over with the other OG's who are like retiring 0:09:37.720 --> 0:09:39.840 one after the other, not voluntarily. 0:09:39.800 --> 0:09:41.800 Right because you had retired and what. 0:09:42.280 --> 0:09:45.520 But mine was you know, the rap game will retire you. 0:09:45.679 --> 0:09:48.520 Sure it will park you, and nobody will call you anymore. 0:09:49.200 --> 0:09:54.280 And you know, those songs gave me like the infinite 0:09:54.520 --> 0:09:56.200 extension of my career forever. 0:09:56.520 --> 0:09:59.040 Yeah, no, that's a fact, dude. I think a lot 0:09:59.080 --> 0:10:02.120 of people don't unders stand or they're very surprised when 0:10:02.160 --> 0:10:06.079 they learned that, uh, blow the whistle is produced by 0:10:06.080 --> 0:10:07.080 someone from Atlanta. 0:10:07.120 --> 0:10:11.160 So in essence, little John is you know forever, like 0:10:11.480 --> 0:10:14.240 you know, my guy because of what he's done for 0:10:14.320 --> 0:10:17.199 me and vice versa. So you know, And and then 0:10:17.200 --> 0:10:22.559 he becomes super instrumental in the emergence of crunk music. 0:10:22.559 --> 0:10:24.760 He is the main player, he's the face of it. 0:10:25.160 --> 0:10:29.560 And then he comes over to California and catches win 0:10:29.640 --> 0:10:32.840 of the Hyphee movement and he starts giving people Hyphee records, 0:10:32.880 --> 0:10:35.640 not just Barrier people either. He went and gave Yin 0:10:35.760 --> 0:10:37.920 Yang some Hyphee songs and Pete Pablo. 0:10:38.120 --> 0:10:40.160 He also did tell me when they go right, Yes 0:10:40.200 --> 0:10:43.319 he did, so he I mean those are I mean, 0:10:44.520 --> 0:10:46.400 are those are the two biggest Bay Area raps. 0:10:46.520 --> 0:10:49.360 I wouldn't say those were the best Hyphee songs. 0:10:49.400 --> 0:10:51.440 I would just say, but they're the two biggest Bay arias. 0:10:51.520 --> 0:10:53.760 I mean, like Hammer and all that. 0:10:53.800 --> 0:10:55.400 But then he forty had a phone call one day 0:10:55.400 --> 0:10:58.120 and we decided to stamp the Hyphee movement and we're like, 0:10:58.120 --> 0:11:00.000 I like what the youngsters are doing. Let's do something, 0:11:00.000 --> 0:11:01.520 because you guys are old g's at that point. Yeah, 0:11:01.600 --> 0:11:03.480 let's do something to help it move. He did tell 0:11:03.520 --> 0:11:05.720 me when to go. I did blow the whistle. We 0:11:05.720 --> 0:11:08.280 did some more little sprinkles of other songs with the vibe, 0:11:08.280 --> 0:11:10.120 and we support the movie. We never stepped up and 0:11:10.160 --> 0:11:12.520 said this is our movement. It was always the little 0:11:12.520 --> 0:11:13.160 Hole music was. 0:11:13.160 --> 0:11:14.880 Always it was always the young generation. 0:11:14.960 --> 0:11:17.079 Yeah, yeah, it was mac dre is kind of up there, 0:11:17.120 --> 0:11:19.360 but it was still Mac dra keeped the sneak and 0:11:19.440 --> 0:11:21.400 you know, the Federation and the Team and all these 0:11:21.400 --> 0:11:23.400 groups that you know, like the Pack and all these 0:11:23.400 --> 0:11:25.480 groups that were thriving. 0:11:25.160 --> 0:11:29.440 At the time. So, you know, I think that helping 0:11:29.480 --> 0:11:32.079 little John get in the game just I didn't. He 0:11:32.120 --> 0:11:35.360 did it on his own. I just got the obstacle. Op. 0:11:35.400 --> 0:11:37.679 You're very instrumental in it for sure. And then this 0:11:37.720 --> 0:11:39.880 new album. It helped music a lot. We got a 0:11:39.880 --> 0:11:42.360 lot of songs for them, oh man, for that one thing, 0:11:42.400 --> 0:11:43.880 he gave us a lot of music. You know. 0:11:43.880 --> 0:11:48.240 I go back and listen to Crunk Juice and Kings 0:11:48.240 --> 0:11:52.360 of Crunk so much. Yeah, so much. Those two albums 0:11:52.400 --> 0:11:56.160 are just I mean, man. And then some of the 0:11:56.200 --> 0:11:58.720 collaborations he was putting together, like putting the ice Cube 0:11:58.760 --> 0:12:00.960 and nas on Grand for Now, Oh yeah, just some 0:12:01.040 --> 0:12:03.320 of the shit, like Little John was just throwing so 0:12:03.400 --> 0:12:05.760 much gumbo into the pot that you would even expect 0:12:06.080 --> 0:12:06.840 to go crazy. 0:12:06.840 --> 0:12:08.559 He'd be like, oh, this is crazy. 0:12:08.280 --> 0:12:10.920 Like, yeah, he's got that song or turned down for 0:12:11.000 --> 0:12:13.760 what of course, and he it sounds like a little 0:12:13.800 --> 0:12:15.000 John beat, But he didn't produce that. 0:12:16.400 --> 0:12:18.000 I think maybe DJ Snake produced it. 0:12:18.040 --> 0:12:20.959 Snake did, yeah, yeah, But Little John says what maybe 0:12:21.040 --> 0:12:22.199 ten twelve words? 0:12:23.240 --> 0:12:25.679 I think he might say like, yeah, ten maybe ten, 0:12:26.160 --> 0:12:26.679 And it's. 0:12:26.520 --> 0:12:28.520 Like it's like the biggest shit ever. All I said 0:12:28.600 --> 0:12:30.400 was ten words. So crazy. 0:12:30.480 --> 0:12:32.440 That's amazing. Man. Not a lot of us could make 0:12:32.440 --> 0:12:33.360 a ten words song. 0:12:33.679 --> 0:12:37.280 Sonically, where is this album that you guys are working on? 0:12:37.400 --> 0:12:39.600 Is it more of the like newer era stuff because so. 0:12:39.640 --> 0:12:40.880 You got to get the big picture. Man. 0:12:41.400 --> 0:12:46.559 So uh, for a long time now, probably since COVID, 0:12:47.440 --> 0:12:52.040 I've probably recorded one hundred and two short songs, seventy 0:12:52.280 --> 0:12:54.679 five songs I don't know, right, but then I also 0:12:54.720 --> 0:12:59.840 recorded another fifty songs with Mount westmore Right and always 0:12:59.840 --> 0:13:03.400 doing shows. Always you've been You're very busy on this 0:13:03.440 --> 0:13:06.600 and that and just doing stuff, but not really announcing 0:13:06.600 --> 0:13:09.520 to people how much I really how much time I 0:13:09.559 --> 0:13:12.920 really spent in the studio really making dope ass records 0:13:12.920 --> 0:13:14.400 that I really haven't been putting out. 0:13:14.400 --> 0:13:16.600 And it's a lot of them, and you're sparring NonStop. 0:13:16.679 --> 0:13:19.400 Yeah, I said, people around and start playing two short songs. 0:13:19.400 --> 0:13:21.319 They're like, what the fuck is your problem? Is this 0:13:21.360 --> 0:13:25.160 shit not out? But there was always a plan, and 0:13:25.480 --> 0:13:27.520 I knew that the Freaky Tales movie was coming. This 0:13:27.559 --> 0:13:31.120 has been years in the making, like, uh, you know it. 0:13:31.679 --> 0:13:34.520 The deal of the process of making the movie has 0:13:34.559 --> 0:13:36.960 probably been a four year process, you know now. 0:13:36.960 --> 0:13:39.400 I remember SEMBA hit me pretty early on and was like, 0:13:39.640 --> 0:13:42.319 don't tell anybody, I'm about to play too short in 0:13:42.400 --> 0:13:42.839 a movie. 0:13:42.960 --> 0:13:46.080 And I'm like, so I was on when they were 0:13:46.280 --> 0:13:48.199 trying to get to the part where they even shoot 0:13:48.240 --> 0:13:50.240 the movie, you know, before the cast for sure, and 0:13:51.720 --> 0:13:56.160 I just figured, let's just time this out and wait 0:13:56.200 --> 0:13:57.800 till the movie comes out. And then I started my 0:13:57.840 --> 0:14:03.640 little movement. So I have a series of albums. It's 0:14:03.640 --> 0:14:06.640 called Sir Too Short. That was originally my name before 0:14:06.720 --> 0:14:08.840 too Short, when I first broke out, and I'm like, 0:14:09.160 --> 0:14:11.400 this is me. I was ser too Short. I used 0:14:11.400 --> 0:14:13.760 to write it, tag it everywhere all over the Bay. 0:14:13.800 --> 0:14:16.680 Anywhere I would stop for five minutes, I would tag 0:14:16.760 --> 0:14:19.960 Sir too Short. And I decided to make a throwback 0:14:20.000 --> 0:14:22.640 album and Banks, well. 0:14:22.480 --> 0:14:24.080 And Banks's production is all over it. 0:14:24.760 --> 0:14:26.920 A lot of music with a Banks recently so and 0:14:27.000 --> 0:14:28.760 it was he was I couldn't do it without. 0:14:28.600 --> 0:14:31.160 Him, so they player short shit. Yeah. 0:14:31.200 --> 0:14:34.960 So the first installment is the sort of Me and 0:14:35.000 --> 0:14:38.520 and Banks flavor. It's real Bay. I knew what the 0:14:38.560 --> 0:14:40.280 movie was gonna be about. I knew the movie was 0:14:40.280 --> 0:14:42.760 gonna be set in nineteen eighty seven. So instead of 0:14:42.800 --> 0:14:45.840 me trying to, you know, put out an album and like, 0:14:45.880 --> 0:14:47.760 you know, Kendrick's coming out next week, I'm coming out 0:14:47.760 --> 0:14:49.920 of the weekend. I'm like, I'm just gonna go in 0:14:50.000 --> 0:14:52.960 my zone and make some og as too short shit. 0:14:53.080 --> 0:14:54.320 So that's what I did. 0:14:54.680 --> 0:14:58.240 And then I was trying to do one song that 0:14:58.320 --> 0:15:01.400 me and Little John had recorded a about six seven 0:15:01.440 --> 0:15:04.680 years ago. It was laying around Ghazi from Empire. Shout 0:15:04.760 --> 0:15:07.920 to Gazi heard the song way back when. So every 0:15:07.960 --> 0:15:10.080 two years he goes, hey, man, let's put let's put 0:15:10.080 --> 0:15:12.120 out that Little John song. I'm like, all right, And 0:15:12.160 --> 0:15:13.080 then two years later. 0:15:13.000 --> 0:15:14.120 Let's put that song out. 0:15:14.320 --> 0:15:16.680 So once again, no one. I'm getting ready to try 0:15:16.720 --> 0:15:18.200 to put something out of the movie. He's like, you 0:15:18.200 --> 0:15:19.360 gotta put that Little John. 0:15:19.200 --> 0:15:19.680 Song on there. 0:15:19.960 --> 0:15:22.120 So I called a Little John, so let's make it 0:15:22.120 --> 0:15:26.240 new again, and he comes to the studio and we 0:15:26.480 --> 0:15:29.240 make We did something something. 0:15:29.520 --> 0:15:30.840 I don't even know. We messed with that song a 0:15:30.880 --> 0:15:32.000 little bit, but we did something. 0:15:32.520 --> 0:15:36.000 And he's like, I'm gonna leave some beats, and he 0:15:36.080 --> 0:15:39.520 just leaves me some beats. This is like on a Monday. 0:15:39.840 --> 0:15:42.560 I sent him. He probably gave me like twenty beats 0:15:42.600 --> 0:15:46.520 to listen to. A week later, I sent him like 0:15:46.680 --> 0:15:49.880 fourteen songs recorded and he said he. 0:15:49.920 --> 0:15:51.800 Was like, oh, show you serious, son. 0:15:51.880 --> 0:15:55.280 And he sent me like fifteen more beats and I'm 0:15:55.280 --> 0:15:58.480 like started recording on those. I'm like just doing them 0:15:58.480 --> 0:16:01.040 because they Little John beats some grabbing everything I've gotten, 0:16:01.760 --> 0:16:04.200 just you know, because I've been recording for years. I'm like, 0:16:04.200 --> 0:16:07.120 I got a lot of shit. And then he's like, 0:16:07.600 --> 0:16:10.240 all right, send me in another pack of beasts. I'm like, dude, 0:16:10.320 --> 0:16:12.600 I have more than enough for the album. He said, well, shit, 0:16:12.720 --> 0:16:15.600 make two albums. I'm like, all right, That's what I'll do. Then, 0:16:15.960 --> 0:16:19.920 So what happens after the throwback albums? 0:16:19.960 --> 0:16:20.520 So Too Short? 0:16:20.600 --> 0:16:23.640 Volume one is the Little Giant album, which is called 0:16:23.760 --> 0:16:27.800 Drinking Smoke, and it's a little more up tempo, it's 0:16:27.800 --> 0:16:29.800 a little more it's reminiscent of the songs that me 0:16:29.800 --> 0:16:30.800 and Little John made together. 0:16:31.280 --> 0:16:36.400 And then it's so ignorant. The topics, the shit talking, 0:16:36.920 --> 0:16:37.240 all the. 0:16:37.200 --> 0:16:40.760 OG's are like not all the OG's, but the og 0:16:41.720 --> 0:16:45.600 idea is like, you're in your fifties, you should be 0:16:46.200 --> 0:16:49.520 a mentor, and you should you should. 0:16:49.200 --> 0:16:52.080 Say responsible things on songs now because you have matured. 0:16:52.720 --> 0:16:54.760 And not too Short. I'm like, right, where the fuck 0:16:54.800 --> 0:16:56.480 I was at nineteen eighty eight. I'm not. 0:16:57.520 --> 0:17:00.000 I can't I can't see being a character called too Short. 0:17:00.640 --> 0:17:02.840 And then making the character grow the fuck up. 0:17:03.360 --> 0:17:05.719 Yeah, and also like your fans who are like, I mean, 0:17:05.760 --> 0:17:08.119 I'm thirty eight. You know, I obviously was listening to 0:17:08.160 --> 0:17:09.960 you when I was a very small child, shot to 0:17:10.000 --> 0:17:12.320 my parents for you know, whether or not they were 0:17:12.359 --> 0:17:16.120 being good or bad parents for that is. But you know, 0:17:16.280 --> 0:17:18.400 people ten years older than me, people five years older 0:17:18.400 --> 0:17:19.280 than me, like they don't. 0:17:19.080 --> 0:17:21.399 Want to hear too short, like we we love short 0:17:21.640 --> 0:17:22.200 for short. 0:17:22.280 --> 0:17:24.600 Like It's like I just had that conversation with Cube 0:17:24.600 --> 0:17:26.239 when he was up here because I thanked him. I 0:17:26.280 --> 0:17:30.480 was like, hey man, thank you for this new shit 0:17:30.640 --> 0:17:33.560 sounding like ice Cube and not sounded myself trying to 0:17:33.600 --> 0:17:34.600 do some young head shit. 0:17:34.680 --> 0:17:39.560 You know. Will Smith was asking Kendrick for advice. He's like, 0:17:40.160 --> 0:17:43.199 just talk shit, yeah, be true to yourself. Talk shit, bro. 0:17:44.760 --> 0:17:48.239 So they're gonna talk about the mature the lack of 0:17:48.240 --> 0:17:51.920 maturity whatever in the subjects and the and the language 0:17:51.960 --> 0:17:52.359 and whatever. 0:17:52.440 --> 0:17:56.360 But then volume three is actually gonna be that thing 0:17:56.400 --> 0:17:58.320 that they think a grown rapper should do. 0:17:58.840 --> 0:18:00.840 And you know, sounds like the message in life is 0:18:00.880 --> 0:18:04.879 too short, and you know with the with the concerned lyrics. 0:18:04.680 --> 0:18:08.240 I mean even getting it to like a motivational likes. 0:18:08.800 --> 0:18:11.359 I always balanced my career for sure by talking the 0:18:11.400 --> 0:18:14.920 most extreme shiite and then talking the most intelligent ship. 0:18:15.680 --> 0:18:18.640 And the last album is just I have I make 0:18:18.680 --> 0:18:19.600 those kind of songs. 0:18:19.640 --> 0:18:20.160 It's game. 0:18:20.400 --> 0:18:23.560 So I just you know, I'm gonna get my grown 0:18:23.600 --> 0:18:25.520 man on on the way out. I want them to 0:18:25.560 --> 0:18:27.359 talk a lot of shit, somebody. I want somebody to 0:18:27.400 --> 0:18:30.280 talk shit. And like, that's just so childish. Are too 0:18:30.280 --> 0:18:33.040 short to drop that, you know in the environment in 0:18:33.080 --> 0:18:35.560 the world today is putting all these negative shits about. 0:18:35.320 --> 0:18:37.840 Pimping and hoeing. Hey, it's too short. 0:18:38.560 --> 0:18:42.480 If I was making movies, I wouldn't fucking you know, 0:18:42.760 --> 0:18:46.919 change Batman to fucking uh to do something that Batman 0:18:46.920 --> 0:18:48.320 wouldn't fucking DoD Damn. 0:18:48.320 --> 0:18:50.880 You got a character, run the character. Yeah, no, that's 0:18:51.600 --> 0:18:52.280 I'm excited. 0:18:52.480 --> 0:18:55.679 So when is the like, in terms of when you're 0:18:55.680 --> 0:18:56.840 gonna start rolling this stuff out? 0:18:57.000 --> 0:19:00.840 The first volume one drops April eighteenth, so that's Friday. Yeah, 0:19:00.880 --> 0:19:03.960 next Friday, And I'm dropping a single this Friday. It's 0:19:04.000 --> 0:19:07.280 called still Mackin And then they each one would they 0:19:07.359 --> 0:19:08.800 all got to come out before the end of the year, 0:19:08.840 --> 0:19:11.320 so they'll be ninety two one hundred twenty days apart 0:19:11.920 --> 0:19:12.720 three to four months. 0:19:12.760 --> 0:19:14.320 What is it man, at this point in time in 0:19:14.359 --> 0:19:18.399 your career, Like, what is the motivation? A lot of 0:19:18.400 --> 0:19:20.919 people get comfortable, a lot of people get lazy, they 0:19:20.920 --> 0:19:23.840 stop going to the studio. Why do you still have 0:19:23.960 --> 0:19:28.160 the drive? What is it that you attribute that to longevity? 0:19:28.200 --> 0:19:30.520 I stayed in the game so long that I looked around, 0:19:30.520 --> 0:19:32.159 I see everything that's going on. I've seen all the 0:19:32.200 --> 0:19:34.359 people that came and went. I've heard all the chitter 0:19:34.480 --> 0:19:38.639 chatter about hip hop's limitations and how far I can go. 0:19:38.720 --> 0:19:39.800 I remember when you couldn't. 0:19:40.040 --> 0:19:42.960 You couldn't be a thirty something year old rapper because 0:19:43.000 --> 0:19:45.200 they're like, what your old dad's doing rapping? Right now, 0:19:45.240 --> 0:19:48.600 we have very successful represent their forties and fifties, And 0:19:48.680 --> 0:19:52.040 I just think that when you look at people out 0:19:52.040 --> 0:19:56.119 there just pushing it constantly on the road, trash, you know, 0:19:56.880 --> 0:19:58.200 people staying in the limelight. 0:19:59.040 --> 0:20:01.080 Fat Joe, you know what I'm saying. 0:20:01.359 --> 0:20:04.639 KRS one got twenty some albums and it's always you know, 0:20:04.920 --> 0:20:07.800 speaking hip hop and always relevant, you know. So it's like, 0:20:08.280 --> 0:20:12.080 you know, rock him, he just got red Man is 0:20:12.440 --> 0:20:15.360 dropping dope as freestyles and I'm like, I just think 0:20:15.400 --> 0:20:17.720 that we have to. 0:20:19.600 --> 0:20:20.000 Make it. 0:20:20.080 --> 0:20:23.119 You know, we have to own the narrative of like 0:20:23.520 --> 0:20:26.360 when does hip hop expire? When does the artist expire? 0:20:26.600 --> 0:20:28.320 And the only way to do that is to live it. 0:20:28.320 --> 0:20:34.399 We the generation who's poised right now to tell a 0:20:34.480 --> 0:20:37.399 story to the infinite version of it, Like who's going 0:20:37.480 --> 0:20:42.080 to be the first rapper who is rocking the crowd 0:20:42.119 --> 0:20:44.800 at seventy two years old? You know somebody's going to 0:20:44.840 --> 0:20:45.480 do it well? 0:20:45.520 --> 0:20:47.600 Also too, like you're kind of I mean, I know 0:20:47.640 --> 0:20:49.639 we mentioned like rock him and those guys, but like 0:20:49.680 --> 0:20:53.000 in terms of like cultural relevance from your era of music, 0:20:53.200 --> 0:20:58.600 cubes in the mix obviously, but like wherever club you 0:20:58.640 --> 0:21:01.520 go to in the country, right, you're gonna hear blow 0:21:01.560 --> 0:21:03.479 the whistle. Oh yeah, it doesn't matter where you are. 0:21:03.480 --> 0:21:04.800 Could be a white club, it could be a hood club, 0:21:04.840 --> 0:21:06.800 it could be a bar mitzvah, it could be a 0:21:06.880 --> 0:21:10.119 basketball game, it could be anything. Blow the whistle is 0:21:10.160 --> 0:21:15.240 getting played. And you have such like a position in 0:21:15.320 --> 0:21:18.480 like culture where it's like it's it's almost like the 0:21:18.520 --> 0:21:21.200 snoop dog effect, like when people be like, oh too show, 0:21:21.400 --> 0:21:24.480 I love too show, Like everyone loves you like it's 0:21:24.480 --> 0:21:26.320 pretty crazy, like to be able to kind of have 0:21:26.400 --> 0:21:28.680 that kind of grace with with with the public. 0:21:28.960 --> 0:21:31.680 And you don't. That's something that you don't work at. 0:21:31.840 --> 0:21:35.920 You just make good music. And you you remember that 0:21:36.040 --> 0:21:38.600 thing about you got to have the biggest ego and 0:21:38.600 --> 0:21:40.120 be hum humble at the same time. 0:21:40.240 --> 0:21:42.560 Like a lot of people can't do both of those. 0:21:42.600 --> 0:21:45.560 You get you got you got ego maniac and then 0:21:45.600 --> 0:21:48.760 you got people like, you know, zero humility, and they 0:21:48.840 --> 0:21:51.320 just come in and just shit on people, and it's 0:21:51.400 --> 0:21:54.439 just it's not a good energy. And I think that 0:21:54.520 --> 0:21:56.640 I always put that good energy out. I've always had 0:21:57.720 --> 0:22:00.600 never been too much in a hurry to a picture 0:22:00.760 --> 0:22:05.240 or listen to somebody's sixty second story about a too 0:22:05.240 --> 0:22:06.080 short experience. 0:22:06.240 --> 0:22:07.960 Just like back in the day I ran into you 0:22:08.000 --> 0:22:08.240 at this. 0:22:08.280 --> 0:22:13.200 Moll, I understand that from the start. I understand that 0:22:14.040 --> 0:22:14.800 it's gonna. 0:22:14.520 --> 0:22:16.400 Come around full circle. I used to. 0:22:17.920 --> 0:22:21.439 I used to do this thing where it was just 0:22:21.440 --> 0:22:23.639 an experiment. It was my first time going on tour 0:22:23.960 --> 0:22:25.040 and everybody's. 0:22:24.520 --> 0:22:26.560 Like too short, too short, short dog, And I. 0:22:26.520 --> 0:22:28.639 Said, I'm gonna do this thing where I'm going to 0:22:28.720 --> 0:22:32.000 tell all these beautiful women, Hi, my name is Todd. 0:22:32.359 --> 0:22:34.800 Yeah, and just they're like, that's the dumbest shit ever. 0:22:35.240 --> 0:22:37.520 Why are you doing it? I'm like, because at some 0:22:37.680 --> 0:22:40.120 point it's gonna be a bunch of beautiful women walking 0:22:40.200 --> 0:22:42.600 up to me going high Todd. And I did this 0:22:42.640 --> 0:22:44.760 shit for years. It just was like, oh, hi, my 0:22:44.840 --> 0:22:47.240 name's Todd. They're like, oh, you know that's your real name. Yeah, Todd, 0:22:47.240 --> 0:22:49.320 how you doing Yeah? And I just said this shit forever. 0:22:49.840 --> 0:22:51.800 And then all of a sudden I started going places 0:22:52.160 --> 0:22:56.440 and it just be some fine chick across the bar, Todd, Todd, I. 0:22:56.359 --> 0:22:57.879 Ain't seen you in a while. And they're like, how 0:22:57.880 --> 0:22:59.560 the fuck you know her? And it became this thing 0:23:00.040 --> 0:23:00.280 and I. 0:23:00.240 --> 0:23:02.199 Was just like, I just it was just part of 0:23:02.240 --> 0:23:04.760 the two short mystique, Like how do you do this shit? 0:23:04.840 --> 0:23:08.960 Bro? And it's it's a little fucking this player ship. 0:23:09.040 --> 0:23:09.400 That's that's. 0:23:10.080 --> 0:23:14.159 I studied some og players and I came up with 0:23:14.480 --> 0:23:15.080 my own version. 0:23:15.920 --> 0:23:16.080 Yo. 0:23:16.560 --> 0:23:21.600 You uh, you're an artist who has a unique connection 0:23:21.840 --> 0:23:24.840 with I look at like a group like Bone. Thugs 0:23:24.840 --> 0:23:26.680 like Bone got to work with Biggie, they got to 0:23:26.720 --> 0:23:30.080 work with Park, they got to work with Easy, of course, 0:23:31.000 --> 0:23:36.480 but you had such an incredible working relationship with Biggie. 0:23:37.160 --> 0:23:39.000 But then you also, I mean one of the most 0:23:39.119 --> 0:23:43.200 underrated chemistries. I think when we think back to albums 0:23:43.200 --> 0:23:45.199 and the amount of songs you guys, did you and 0:23:45.280 --> 0:23:49.160 jay Z had a run together where you guys. 0:23:48.840 --> 0:23:51.160 Got three songs of jay three songs are big? 0:23:51.400 --> 0:23:54.679 Yeah, I mean that's that's pretty crazy. Like, first, I'll 0:23:54.680 --> 0:23:56.920 start with the Biggie relationship because I know one of 0:23:56.960 --> 0:23:59.720 Biggy's last interviews, actually his last interview was in the 0:23:59.720 --> 0:24:02.800 Bay I believe it was that came out before you last. 0:24:02.960 --> 0:24:05.399 Yeah, but what was you know? 0:24:05.440 --> 0:24:07.160 And obviously you know you've got Diddy on your ship, 0:24:07.359 --> 0:24:10.960 obviously probably to the craziness, but you had such a 0:24:11.000 --> 0:24:14.440 connection with Biggie and puffing those guys, Like how did 0:24:14.440 --> 0:24:16.240 that relationship kind of start? 0:24:16.320 --> 0:24:20.720 And I've really got to give one hundred credit now, 0:24:20.840 --> 0:24:24.520 I'll go fifty to fifty. Half of it was Biggie 0:24:25.280 --> 0:24:28.000 reaching out to me, and the other half would probably 0:24:28.040 --> 0:24:30.159 I would have to give it to Eric Sermon because 0:24:30.200 --> 0:24:31.440 he was my neighbor in Atlanta. 0:24:31.680 --> 0:24:32.920 We made a lot of songs together. 0:24:33.000 --> 0:24:36.600 He really the first song that New Yorker's ever liked 0:24:36.720 --> 0:24:39.240 me and by the Masses was a duet with me 0:24:39.280 --> 0:24:39.919 and Eric Sermon. 0:24:40.440 --> 0:24:45.400 But the thing that really happened Biggie called me. Nope, 0:24:45.400 --> 0:24:46.040 he didn't call me. 0:24:46.200 --> 0:24:48.800 He had puff called me and he said, big On 0:24:48.880 --> 0:24:51.000 to do a song with you, and I'm like cool, 0:24:51.040 --> 0:24:51.960 and we made the song. 0:24:52.320 --> 0:24:58.520 The world the world filed it. So that actually just 0:24:58.640 --> 0:25:01.639 like makes all these New York workers go, oh, man, 0:25:01.680 --> 0:25:02.840 I fuck with you. I fuck with you. 0:25:02.760 --> 0:25:04.639 You know what I'm saying, and it just it just became, 0:25:05.200 --> 0:25:07.000 you know, a fuck with you. And then I do 0:25:08.000 --> 0:25:10.800 this song with jay Z. Real niggas do real things, 0:25:11.280 --> 0:25:14.199 and then that opens up another door. I do a 0:25:14.240 --> 0:25:17.720 song with Little Kim call Me for the Booty Call soundtrack, 0:25:18.119 --> 0:25:22.000 and now I'm like sort of okay in New York. 0:25:22.080 --> 0:25:23.840 So me and Eric Sermon had a song called buy 0:25:23.840 --> 0:25:27.239 You Something. So now I got like four joints at 0:25:27.320 --> 0:25:29.800 all these years of New York ignoring the fuck out 0:25:29.840 --> 0:25:31.639 of me, got about four joints. 0:25:31.640 --> 0:25:34.359 But these four joints are with the heavy head it is. 0:25:34.920 --> 0:25:36.960 And then the phone starts ringing and they want me 0:25:37.000 --> 0:25:38.840 on the Foxy Brown album and I'm just. 0:25:38.880 --> 0:25:40.359 Doing songs with New yorkers. 0:25:40.359 --> 0:25:44.520 So it was it was Biggie because everybody he was 0:25:44.560 --> 0:25:47.760 the hottest motherfucker and then here I am with Big 0:25:48.280 --> 0:25:48.760 on a song. 0:25:48.840 --> 0:25:49.560 They're like, well shit, I. 0:25:49.520 --> 0:25:51.720 Got to get two short on the song because also 0:25:51.760 --> 0:25:53.760 the word was out that I had ten platinum albums, 0:25:53.760 --> 0:25:56.200 but it was like six platinums. 0:25:55.720 --> 0:25:59.600 Four gold. And you know, folks are just like it 0:25:59.640 --> 0:26:01.119 with the feet, your thing was starting to pick up. 0:26:01.160 --> 0:26:02.960 We didn't used to do features back in the day. 0:26:03.280 --> 0:26:06.120 Yeah, so because obviously nowadays, a lot of features get 0:26:06.119 --> 0:26:07.840 done over email. Back then, were you able to be 0:26:07.880 --> 0:26:08.680 in the studio. 0:26:08.480 --> 0:26:11.120 Well, yeah, you pretty much all the features were done 0:26:11.280 --> 0:26:13.800 in person. What's the studio session? Like with Biggie? 0:26:13.840 --> 0:26:19.679 The first one, the world is Filled? The song was 0:26:19.680 --> 0:26:23.320 recorded at a at Bad Boys studio Daddy's house in 0:26:23.400 --> 0:26:23.840 New York. 0:26:24.960 --> 0:26:26.840 I got to the session. I had one of my 0:26:26.880 --> 0:26:27.680 homies with me. 0:26:29.000 --> 0:26:31.520 And it's people. It's like a vibe, it's people in 0:26:31.520 --> 0:26:39.639 the studios. We smoked liquor, the usual session and Puff 0:26:39.680 --> 0:26:42.960 Daddy is on the first verse of the song. Carl 0:26:43.000 --> 0:26:44.159 Thomas is on the hook. 0:26:44.720 --> 0:26:47.960 I was wondering who did that hook? Yeah, Carl Thomas. 0:26:48.400 --> 0:26:53.000 And the hook is already done and Puffy's excited, you know, 0:26:53.040 --> 0:26:56.800 he's always like a high energy. When he's in the room, 0:26:56.840 --> 0:26:59.240 he's like playing this shit, loving it. Everybody in the 0:26:59.320 --> 0:27:02.480 room is agreeing this is one of the ones. And 0:27:02.640 --> 0:27:06.040 I'm sitting there my usual routine, grab a pan paper 0:27:06.040 --> 0:27:09.560 and just start vibing. The song is the hook is 0:27:09.560 --> 0:27:12.280 saying the world is Philip, Pips and Hose. We'll just 0:27:12.280 --> 0:27:14.399 talk about those I know, and it's just you know. 0:27:14.520 --> 0:27:18.560 Puff comes on. He's talking some slick shit about balling, 0:27:18.680 --> 0:27:21.800 being a baller and shit, and then Big goes in there. 0:27:23.280 --> 0:27:28.040 Everybody's laughing and drinking. He goes into booth without like 0:27:28.160 --> 0:27:31.240 writing anything. So I'm thinking, I don't know this shit 0:27:31.320 --> 0:27:34.840 about the rhyming with no paper within him, no pain. 0:27:36.000 --> 0:27:37.560 Him and jay Z and all of them would would 0:27:37.640 --> 0:27:39.800 soon make famous, but it wasn't famous on this day. 0:27:40.480 --> 0:27:43.600 I didn't know about it. So he's just sitting around 0:27:43.760 --> 0:27:44.640 drinking and smoking. 0:27:44.680 --> 0:27:46.959 He goes, I'm ready to get in the booth, and 0:27:47.000 --> 0:27:48.320 I'm like, what the fuck does he meaning? 0:27:48.680 --> 0:27:48.920 Write? 0:27:49.400 --> 0:27:53.199 Like I'm just And he goes in there and he 0:27:53.400 --> 0:27:57.160 says he announces because everybody's a little tipsy and having fun. 0:27:57.200 --> 0:27:59.240 He's like, I'm gonna do this shit in one take, 0:28:00.240 --> 0:28:02.479 and he goes in there, says a couple of lines 0:28:03.200 --> 0:28:05.680 and I guess messed up or didn't get the line right, 0:28:05.880 --> 0:28:07.880 and he said, run me back, and the next take 0:28:08.240 --> 0:28:12.920 he runs his shit front the back sixteen bars, and 0:28:12.960 --> 0:28:15.800 when he comes out the booth, it's like cheers. 0:28:15.480 --> 0:28:17.760 And claps and everybody's like whash. 0:28:18.440 --> 0:28:20.199 And I'm like sitting there with an empty piece of 0:28:20.200 --> 0:28:24.080 paper like this, and I'm like, the whole song is done. 0:28:24.119 --> 0:28:24.280 Now. 0:28:24.320 --> 0:28:28.160 The song has a blank sixteen bars. Everybody's in the mood, 0:28:28.280 --> 0:28:31.720 smoking the air. Ain't nobody pressuring me, but it's I'm pressure. 0:28:31.720 --> 0:28:33.960 You're pressuring yourself. And I'm like, what the fuck. 0:28:34.040 --> 0:28:37.320 So I go to my boy and I'm like, I 0:28:37.359 --> 0:28:38.960 should do if you kind of ripped that shit. 0:28:39.720 --> 0:28:41.600 I was like, man, I ain't even wrote nothing. And 0:28:41.680 --> 0:28:42.800 my boy, he's from Oakland. 0:28:42.840 --> 0:28:46.920 He said, he said, shit, listen to the hook. I'm like, okay, 0:28:46.960 --> 0:28:50.520 you said none of them. Ain't nobody own the song 0:28:50.640 --> 0:28:53.240 said anything about what the hook is saying. And I'm 0:28:53.280 --> 0:28:55.560 like like, bub okay, I'm just gonna write the story 0:28:55.560 --> 0:28:58.000 of the hook. So I told the story about some 0:28:58.000 --> 0:29:00.720 pimps and holes. I know, in the end, I start 0:29:00.760 --> 0:29:03.200 talking some shit about some pimps and holes I know, 0:29:03.680 --> 0:29:05.120 and then I come out the roof and they're like, 0:29:05.120 --> 0:29:09.720 oh shit. I'm like, okay, so my guy, he just 0:29:09.760 --> 0:29:12.480 he was My guy's not a rapper write a songwriter, 0:29:12.800 --> 0:29:15.200 but he's been in many sessions with me and always 0:29:15.440 --> 0:29:17.959 he's a gamer. He got game for sure, so he's like, 0:29:18.160 --> 0:29:20.080 didn't spit that game. Like one time I was writing 0:29:20.080 --> 0:29:23.960 a song and he's like, what you gonna write about it? 0:29:23.960 --> 0:29:24.440 I'm like, I don't know. 0:29:24.440 --> 0:29:26.360 He's like shit, He's like, I tell you a story. 0:29:26.360 --> 0:29:28.400 He's like, when I was in fifth grade, I used 0:29:28.440 --> 0:29:31.280 to steal cigarettes at the story and then go around 0:29:31.280 --> 0:29:34.160 selling cigarettes to adults. That's how I got money. And 0:29:34.160 --> 0:29:36.080 I'm like, okay, I wrote a rapper about it. Little 0:29:36.120 --> 0:29:39.600 nigga in the fifth grade selling cigarettes. That's one of 0:29:39.640 --> 0:29:41.920 my songs. But that's how we used to get down. 0:29:42.000 --> 0:29:46.920 So the World Is Filled became a classic, and you know, 0:29:47.400 --> 0:29:50.320 I was. It was one of those times where I'm 0:29:50.000 --> 0:29:52.640 I'm I'm not trying to jab with Biggie lyric for 0:29:52.720 --> 0:29:55.440 lyric in the studio. I know what I'm up against 0:29:55.480 --> 0:29:58.320 when I do songs with these super lyricists. But I 0:29:58.360 --> 0:29:59.240 always spit game. 0:29:59.440 --> 0:30:01.960 Always sure it's funny because then you end up in 0:30:02.040 --> 0:30:04.040 the studio with jay Z, who does the same kind 0:30:04.080 --> 0:30:04.320 of thing. 0:30:04.480 --> 0:30:06.520 Yep, you must be like, you know, it was these 0:30:06.560 --> 0:30:08.400 New York motherfuckers gonna be writing nothing down. 0:30:08.680 --> 0:30:10.719 And then with jay Z song I actually sent him 0:30:10.760 --> 0:30:14.400 the Verse the World the Real Niggas was was a 0:30:14.480 --> 0:30:17.520 song that was written when I got the dem with 0:30:17.640 --> 0:30:18.640 the demo version that was. 0:30:18.640 --> 0:30:21.560 One on Value one right, I can't remember, and volume 0:30:21.600 --> 0:30:23.160 two year on it was all good just a week ago. 0:30:24.400 --> 0:30:26.400 That song was written for him to do a duet 0:30:26.440 --> 0:30:30.080 with Scarface. And you always say the stories about jay 0:30:30.120 --> 0:30:32.920 Z and UGK and these people. People didn't want to 0:30:33.000 --> 0:30:36.600 do songs with certain people because they thought they weren't 0:30:36.680 --> 0:30:40.240 friends of Tupacs, and it was always this this thing 0:30:40.360 --> 0:30:42.200 of I'm ride with Tupac. 0:30:42.240 --> 0:30:44.120 At that time, it was so East West because that 0:30:44.200 --> 0:30:46.720 was like an actual thing that people were cognitive with. 0:30:46.960 --> 0:30:51.160 Some people like you Pimpsey was really on that, and 0:30:51.480 --> 0:30:52.280 I don't I don't know. 0:30:52.520 --> 0:30:54.840 I think Scarface it was partially because he didn't like 0:30:54.920 --> 0:30:57.880 to fly on airplanes at the time. And then you know, 0:30:58.200 --> 0:31:02.120 I guess you gotta like some people was just like 0:31:02.200 --> 0:31:04.640 I got a ride for the side I fuck with right, 0:31:05.000 --> 0:31:06.600 and it just was like that. I can't tell you 0:31:06.600 --> 0:31:09.040 if that was Scarface's motivation, but he didn't do the song, 0:31:09.160 --> 0:31:10.800 but you kind of fucked with everybody at that time. 0:31:10.840 --> 0:31:13.520 And in that song, jay Z says something something about 0:31:13.720 --> 0:31:15.800 short he says something about short Dog. But there was 0:31:15.800 --> 0:31:18.960 a version where he said Scarface that I heard, and 0:31:19.400 --> 0:31:21.719 you know, I knew Face wasn't doing it. But then, 0:31:22.040 --> 0:31:25.240 you know, even when I get in the studio with 0:31:25.320 --> 0:31:29.240 Scarface e forty, all these motherfuckers just drop gasoline on 0:31:29.320 --> 0:31:31.120 the track and look over like what you gonna do now? 0:31:31.520 --> 0:31:34.320 And I just always slide in there and just I 0:31:34.480 --> 0:31:36.960 never try to out wrap them. I just spit game 0:31:37.160 --> 0:31:38.200 and it always works for me. 0:31:38.400 --> 0:31:41.880 Well, you're also like one of the greatest storytellers in 0:31:41.960 --> 0:31:44.760 hip hop history. I do that too. I give you 0:31:44.840 --> 0:31:48.040 a lesson by example by using a story. 0:31:48.320 --> 0:31:49.920 And I know that when I'm on songs with other 0:31:50.000 --> 0:31:53.080 rappers and they doing all this great word play, I'm 0:31:53.080 --> 0:31:55.320 really just gonna I'm gonna give it to you, paint 0:31:55.440 --> 0:31:57.360 a picture or something, and just it's me, it's my 0:31:57.920 --> 0:32:01.239 your style. Yeah, So I like to whenever I get 0:32:01.280 --> 0:32:03.240 on the song with a super rapper, I like to 0:32:03.320 --> 0:32:05.240 dumb it down a little bit and twang the words 0:32:05.280 --> 0:32:08.240 a little bit. I'm doing that thing mine and I 0:32:08.360 --> 0:32:10.000 just I'm like, I'm not gonna battle you. 0:32:10.120 --> 0:32:11.520 Broh. Yeah yo. 0:32:12.360 --> 0:32:15.000 One of my favorite songs that you ever put out 0:32:15.200 --> 0:32:18.840 was one of the best stories ever told on record, 0:32:18.880 --> 0:32:19.600 blowjob Betty. 0:32:21.680 --> 0:32:22.600 That should have been a movie. 0:32:23.080 --> 0:32:25.480 It should have been a movie. For people who haven't 0:32:25.520 --> 0:32:28.840 heard the song, go please go listen to it. It's 0:32:28.960 --> 0:32:31.960 essentially about Too Short had a girl who he had 0:32:32.000 --> 0:32:34.920 to kick to the curve because she was tripping, and. 0:32:35.080 --> 0:32:38.040 She ended up I'd like to fuck for free. Yeah, 0:32:38.160 --> 0:32:40.640 she because she was a real hoe, right and uh. 0:32:41.480 --> 0:32:43.920 It all wraps up with Short running into a bathroom, 0:32:44.000 --> 0:32:45.920 running into her in a bathroom after she gets done 0:32:46.000 --> 0:32:49.280 serving a bunch of strangers, and Too Short says one 0:32:49.320 --> 0:32:53.120 more go and then busting under her mouth, she chokes 0:32:53.160 --> 0:32:53.320 on it. 0:32:53.440 --> 0:32:56.880 Shot that fatal nut. Yes, she dies. 0:32:57.840 --> 0:32:59.840 Too Short doesn't find out about it until later when 0:32:59.840 --> 0:33:01.440 he's was it the newspaper the news? 0:33:01.480 --> 0:33:04.840 I forget And it was on the news. The young 0:33:04.920 --> 0:33:06.240 girl died just last night. 0:33:06.480 --> 0:33:11.040 She choked on sperman or wind pipe. Sorry to say 0:33:11.160 --> 0:33:14.400 there's no suspect I busted down and killed the bitch anyway. 0:33:15.640 --> 0:33:17.640 You know what, when I wrote that song, please tell 0:33:17.720 --> 0:33:18.000 me yes. 0:33:18.120 --> 0:33:21.080 When I wrote that song, the first thing I wrote 0:33:21.120 --> 0:33:24.160 on the paper was I busting that and killed the bitch. 0:33:24.240 --> 0:33:25.880 That's the first thing I wrote. I said, this is 0:33:25.920 --> 0:33:27.480 gonna be the last thing I say in that song. 0:33:27.920 --> 0:33:30.520 And I wrote the song to catch up to that 0:33:30.600 --> 0:33:31.080 one line. 0:33:31.680 --> 0:33:34.520 That's so crazy, Yeah, because you found you know where 0:33:34.560 --> 0:33:35.240 the ending's going. 0:33:35.560 --> 0:33:37.080 I mean, I was like, I thought of that, and 0:33:37.160 --> 0:33:40.320 I'm like, I gotta do something with this. Wrote it down, 0:33:40.440 --> 0:33:41.680 busting that and killed the bitch. 0:33:41.960 --> 0:33:42.800 That's what we're gonna get to. 0:33:43.040 --> 0:33:46.000 Did like fans take that and like there wasn't Google 0:33:46.080 --> 0:33:48.000 back then, But was there any like a lord that 0:33:48.160 --> 0:33:49.880 this was like a true story kind of or some 0:33:50.120 --> 0:33:50.760 semi truth. 0:33:51.840 --> 0:33:57.480 I mean, truthfully, people really in the eighties and nineties, 0:33:58.000 --> 0:33:59.880 they really thought I pimped a lot of holes. 0:34:00.240 --> 0:34:02.600 And I really thought that, oh, that shit was rude. 0:34:02.680 --> 0:34:05.200 I thought that it's just like that's because hip hop 0:34:05.240 --> 0:34:07.239 still had that mystique. I assumed you were. 0:34:07.680 --> 0:34:09.960 I mean, man, but I used to hang with a 0:34:10.000 --> 0:34:12.480 lot of pimps. And it was very pimpish. But you know, 0:34:12.560 --> 0:34:14.320 I had a really good job. I used to like 0:34:14.440 --> 0:34:16.920 cops would have harassed me a little bit, and I'm like, bro, 0:34:17.480 --> 0:34:19.880 I got a really fucking good job. I'm like, why 0:34:19.920 --> 0:34:22.440 would I sell dope? Why would I pimp hose? I 0:34:22.520 --> 0:34:25.080 get a fucking, you know, million dollar check every fucking 0:34:25.120 --> 0:34:26.399 six months. What are you talking about? 0:34:26.560 --> 0:34:28.279 Yeah, Plus, you grow up in the Bay, so it's 0:34:28.360 --> 0:34:31.279 like you're telling the story of like a culture from 0:34:31.280 --> 0:34:35.919 a place that's like very much pimps and hosea. 0:34:35.960 --> 0:34:38.799 I was very fortunate enough to end up in Oakland, California, 0:34:39.360 --> 0:34:44.200 and a lot of too short is the story of Oakland. 0:34:44.239 --> 0:34:45.680 It's not the story of me. 0:34:46.400 --> 0:34:50.120 It's me looking at Oakland and interpreting what I'm seeing 0:34:50.239 --> 0:34:54.560 in songs, Like I literally could just think of some 0:34:54.640 --> 0:34:57.960 shit that happened and write a song. That's how exciting 0:34:58.120 --> 0:35:02.399 Oakland is when I'm coming up of age, and it's 0:35:02.480 --> 0:35:04.760 not you know, the streets. 0:35:04.880 --> 0:35:07.160 It's always been a wild city, but you could go 0:35:07.239 --> 0:35:10.279 out and venture through the city. You're not gonna worry 0:35:10.320 --> 0:35:15.360 about getting killed or any kind of problem happening somewhere. 0:35:15.680 --> 0:35:17.200 I just had It's rough right now, for sure. 0:35:17.320 --> 0:35:18.759 I just had free roam with the city and it 0:35:18.880 --> 0:35:22.960 was like a blank canvas, and I wrote hundreds of 0:35:23.040 --> 0:35:24.040 songs about Oakland. 0:35:24.320 --> 0:35:24.520 Yeah. 0:35:25.000 --> 0:35:27.200 Yeah, it's it's interesting too because you were kind of, 0:35:28.160 --> 0:35:31.920 you know, the first rapper, at least one of the 0:35:31.960 --> 0:35:37.399 first rappers to really I mean, uh, cuss and talk 0:35:37.480 --> 0:35:39.560 the way you talked for real, you know what I'm saying. 0:35:40.440 --> 0:35:42.480 I mean, because you were like I mean, technically you 0:35:42.520 --> 0:35:46.800 were pre Nwa right before. I mean technically technically in 0:35:46.880 --> 0:35:48.120 the streets. Yeah, in the streets. 0:35:48.360 --> 0:35:51.080 I was famous in Oakland at the same time run 0:35:51.160 --> 0:35:54.319 DMC and ll COOJ were famous, you know. 0:35:54.719 --> 0:35:56.919 Essentially like the West Coast. It starts with too short 0:35:56.960 --> 0:35:58.680 and nice tea, right, is that fair? 0:35:58.880 --> 0:35:58.920 What? 0:35:59.160 --> 0:35:59.200 No? 0:35:59.480 --> 0:36:02.640 You gotta remember you had l A was making a 0:36:02.680 --> 0:36:04.880 lot of dance music. It was I'm talking about just. 0:36:05.040 --> 0:36:07.080 Like rappers like that, like we would. I got a 0:36:07.160 --> 0:36:09.960 you know, I got an Egyptian lover and l A 0:36:10.160 --> 0:36:14.279 dream team, you know, even when you know doctor Dre 0:36:14.400 --> 0:36:16.560 and then they were doing an up temple thing, the 0:36:16.600 --> 0:36:19.520 world Class Worcking Crewer. Yeah, I was buying those records. 0:36:19.560 --> 0:36:23.360 I was still in high school, but I was a rapper. 0:36:23.400 --> 0:36:25.919 I was a pretty popular fucking rapper around the Bay 0:36:26.320 --> 0:36:30.880 at the same time. So I was one of the 0:36:30.920 --> 0:36:34.520 first rappers I met that was like on because he 0:36:34.600 --> 0:36:36.840 had did breaking and he was was doing like a 0:36:37.080 --> 0:36:39.239 six in the morning and all that ship, and he 0:36:39.520 --> 0:36:41.600 actually like chopped it up with me and gave me 0:36:41.680 --> 0:36:44.680 some game, and I was I was motivated after having 0:36:44.719 --> 0:36:48.080 a conversation with you know, young Ice t Young Too Short, 0:36:48.480 --> 0:36:50.480 and I always remember that he would do that with 0:36:50.560 --> 0:36:52.399 a lot of us, just give us a little game 0:36:52.400 --> 0:36:55.759 about what we're getting into. Also a player, you know, 0:36:56.560 --> 0:37:00.399 I do consider myself fully a part of the West 0:37:00.520 --> 0:37:04.200 Coast emerging as a hip hop powerhouse. 0:37:04.360 --> 0:37:11.080 I do, yeah, I mean you're you're like, what were 0:37:11.160 --> 0:37:15.440 the like the blowback being one of the first artists 0:37:15.520 --> 0:37:18.319 to have I mean you name it so on cusswords, right, 0:37:18.719 --> 0:37:20.879 Like that's something that you know, it's like, hey, we're 0:37:20.920 --> 0:37:21.640 cussing on songs. 0:37:21.840 --> 0:37:24.239 This is this is this is not of the norm 0:37:24.320 --> 0:37:29.399 per se, Like, yeah, the legitimate journalists who had all 0:37:29.520 --> 0:37:30.880 the attention. 0:37:31.239 --> 0:37:34.400 Because they were in the hip hop publications and you 0:37:34.480 --> 0:37:36.879 know it could be fucking I don't know, everybody said 0:37:36.920 --> 0:37:39.719 this ship there was like this guy too short he 0:37:39.840 --> 0:37:43.160 really can't rap, and he just curses. 0:37:43.960 --> 0:37:46.640 And basically the album would. 0:37:46.440 --> 0:37:49.040 Come out and they would go platinum, and then I 0:37:49.160 --> 0:37:53.880 put another one out and they go, yeah, he's you know, 0:37:54.400 --> 0:37:59.080 the music's mediocre. You don't think, don't think this style 0:37:59.160 --> 0:38:02.359 is gonna last too much longer, you know. And then 0:38:02.400 --> 0:38:05.680 I have this Big Records, another platinum. I'm talking about 0:38:06.200 --> 0:38:09.480 five six platinums in a row, and the review is 0:38:09.480 --> 0:38:12.960 still coming out pretty mediocre, can't really wrap that good. 0:38:13.080 --> 0:38:14.960 And I'm like, stupid, motherfucker. 0:38:14.960 --> 0:38:17.839 I'm rapping like this on purpose because people can hear 0:38:17.880 --> 0:38:19.879 what I'm saying and they feel it and they learned 0:38:19.880 --> 0:38:23.000 every word and I'm spitting game and the basses HeLa deep, 0:38:23.040 --> 0:38:25.360 and they like missing the whole point that we have 0:38:25.520 --> 0:38:27.880 all these different styles of rap YEP, and you have 0:38:28.000 --> 0:38:33.080 these lyricists who the wordplay is is is infectious and 0:38:33.160 --> 0:38:33.920 you fucking want. 0:38:33.800 --> 0:38:34.720 To learn it and rap alone. 0:38:34.760 --> 0:38:36.319 We don't even feel like though back then, like if 0:38:36.320 --> 0:38:38.200 we're talking like eighty seven, eighty eight, eighty nine, and 0:38:38.200 --> 0:38:42.520 it's like ll you got Kine, you got Rockim, you 0:38:42.640 --> 0:38:45.440 got rock Kim, but you were I just I always 0:38:45.480 --> 0:38:48.760 felt like your music was so it resonated so clearly, 0:38:48.960 --> 0:38:51.280 like you said, like you would say the fly shit. 0:38:52.040 --> 0:38:54.200 In the simplest way, where'd be like, oh shit. 0:38:54.480 --> 0:38:56.960 But there were a lot of hip hop heads who 0:38:57.000 --> 0:39:00.440 were like one to ten. I just saw the phumod 0:39:00.640 --> 0:39:04.000 report card. I never even knew about it. Yes, I 0:39:04.120 --> 0:39:07.040 got a C plus, And I'm looking at his categories 0:39:07.080 --> 0:39:08.440 and I'm like, of course I would give me a 0:39:08.520 --> 0:39:12.000 C plus, But he was missing categories like how the 0:39:12.120 --> 0:39:14.520 fuck you just rock that crowd or how the fuck 0:39:14.600 --> 0:39:18.040 you make a song that that you know, motherfucker's in 0:39:18.120 --> 0:39:18.920 the hood love they. 0:39:18.880 --> 0:39:20.479 Don't need a radio station and shit. 0:39:20.880 --> 0:39:23.720 And you know, if he could have seen the forest 0:39:24.040 --> 0:39:25.880 forest sight to the future, it should have been a 0:39:25.880 --> 0:39:27.960 category on there, Carl longevity, because I'd have got an 0:39:27.960 --> 0:39:29.160 A plus and that motherfucker. 0:39:29.560 --> 0:39:32.480 And I just always knew, man, this is what I'm 0:39:32.480 --> 0:39:32.719 telling you. 0:39:33.200 --> 0:39:37.480 I always knew that I didn't want to be a lyricist, 0:39:38.040 --> 0:39:40.479 that I could easily put the words together and spit 0:39:40.560 --> 0:39:40.920 the flow. 0:39:41.200 --> 0:39:42.640 But it was that lane was taken. 0:39:43.120 --> 0:39:46.440 And I'm sitting there like I chose to represent this 0:39:47.200 --> 0:39:49.920 Oakland style of like pimpshit street shit, and I'm like, 0:39:50.120 --> 0:39:53.359 that ain't the way people was talking, I'm gonna talk 0:39:53.480 --> 0:39:57.320 like the pimps talk on this song and fucking like 0:39:57.480 --> 0:39:58.000 I would just. 0:39:58.440 --> 0:39:59.960 My get back was off. 0:40:00.000 --> 0:40:03.680 Always live in concert, I'm like, just get on the show. 0:40:04.000 --> 0:40:07.280 Put I don't let I never would be the headliner. Mostly, 0:40:07.280 --> 0:40:09.480 I wouldn't be the headliner. We have these shows with 0:40:09.640 --> 0:40:12.800 like you know, ten seven ten groups, and I'm like 0:40:12.880 --> 0:40:15.800 somewhere in the middle, and I'm just like, watch, just 0:40:15.920 --> 0:40:19.000 watch the motherfucker to go on before me, and the 0:40:19.080 --> 0:40:20.879 motherfucker is going after me. It's gonna be a problem 0:40:20.960 --> 0:40:24.560 for y'all too, motherfuckers, and probably all night. Like I 0:40:24.719 --> 0:40:26.759 just I would just take pride and just going out 0:40:26.800 --> 0:40:31.480 there everybody like dancing and DJs and tricks and spinning around. 0:40:31.520 --> 0:40:33.800 Shut just walk out there. You don't even got to 0:40:33.840 --> 0:40:34.279 introduce me. 0:40:34.520 --> 0:40:36.560 I just walked the fuck out there and start rapping, 0:40:36.640 --> 0:40:39.320 and the whole crowd is singing every word, and I'm like, 0:40:40.200 --> 0:40:42.239 I just rapped. I stopped rapping and just let the 0:40:42.280 --> 0:40:44.360 whole house sing it and just tell the crowd to 0:40:44.400 --> 0:40:44.920 say shit, and. 0:40:44.920 --> 0:40:48.160 They're like, who the fuck are you? And then just 0:40:48.360 --> 0:40:52.200 I just you know, keep it real nonchal line. What's 0:40:52.280 --> 0:40:55.840 up man? Now? You know player and here from Oakland 0:40:56.520 --> 0:40:58.000 kept the lights on a jive man. 0:40:59.000 --> 0:41:00.919 Yeah, I'm one of those aretists who saved the label 0:41:00.960 --> 0:41:03.480 one year they had for they had a bad year 0:41:03.520 --> 0:41:04.800 and I had a big record. 0:41:04.920 --> 0:41:07.239 I just remember, like the only I got that Jive 0:41:07.320 --> 0:41:09.080 logo and the way all the CDs kind of looked 0:41:09.080 --> 0:41:11.320 the same. I just remember it was you and Forty 0:41:11.600 --> 0:41:13.440 would always have the Jive logo on your ship. Like 0:41:13.480 --> 0:41:15.239 as a kid, I'm like, yeah, I didn't even know 0:41:15.280 --> 0:41:16.280 anybody else will sign. 0:41:16.120 --> 0:41:19.479 The jib for a while, well a few people signed 0:41:19.520 --> 0:41:21.920 the jib because I was on jive. Yeah, I straight 0:41:22.040 --> 0:41:26.759 up like ugk ugk was on jives right because too 0:41:26.800 --> 0:41:27.560 Short was on jive. 0:41:27.840 --> 0:41:32.080 Wow, that was the only reason. What are studio sessions 0:41:32.120 --> 0:41:36.440 in which it's too short and PIMPC? Like in life, PIMPC. 0:41:37.719 --> 0:41:41.040 Is serious in the studio, He's very serious, doesn't really 0:41:41.080 --> 0:41:43.920 he's not He's not slow by any means. 0:41:44.680 --> 0:41:48.239 It happens quick. Pimp C could make beats. He made 0:41:48.280 --> 0:41:50.480 a lot of sure, amazing producer. 0:41:50.560 --> 0:41:54.759 Pimp C also sings and you hear the song like 0:41:54.840 --> 0:41:57.920 it's funky, but just listen, he's in the studio singing 0:41:58.320 --> 0:42:00.680 like he's still in the fucking high school quot on 0:42:00.840 --> 0:42:03.360 those songs, and he's really putting his all into it. 0:42:03.480 --> 0:42:06.239 So PIMC is the kind of motherfucker that come to 0:42:06.320 --> 0:42:09.600 the studio and first thing he wanted to do is 0:42:09.640 --> 0:42:11.840 smoke some weed. That's that's why we say that on 0:42:11.920 --> 0:42:14.120 the songs. He like smoke something like he really would 0:42:14.120 --> 0:42:14.600 smoke something. 0:42:14.880 --> 0:42:17.239 That's not just a tag. He really would say that. 0:42:17.640 --> 0:42:20.279 When he walk in the room, she think we walked 0:42:20.320 --> 0:42:21.960 to walk in and smokes something. Man, what's that? 0:42:22.120 --> 0:42:25.879 And and he's just immediately it's like, well we making 0:42:25.920 --> 0:42:28.280 If it's something on, he's getting involved. 0:42:28.480 --> 0:42:31.120 If it's nothing coming through the speakers, he's like, man, 0:42:31.280 --> 0:42:31.840 this ship up. 0:42:31.880 --> 0:42:32.000 Man. 0:42:32.080 --> 0:42:34.720 Let's say he just immediately started kicking out a drum pattern, 0:42:35.680 --> 0:42:37.640 put a baseline on it, and he got a hook 0:42:37.680 --> 0:42:40.440 for it immediately, and we're making a song. Most I 0:42:40.520 --> 0:42:42.320 think most of the songs I haven't made with PIMC, 0:42:42.520 --> 0:42:44.239 he's doing the hook because that's wow. That's how it 0:42:44.320 --> 0:42:46.600 always went down. He would just he was just quick 0:42:46.719 --> 0:42:50.480 like that. And he's also one of those guys who 0:42:52.080 --> 0:42:54.960 he's like me in a sense that he's not feeling 0:42:55.080 --> 0:42:59.600 lyrically beat you down with this vocabulary and his cadence. 0:43:00.120 --> 0:43:03.960 But when he goes into booth and comes out, it's 0:43:04.040 --> 0:43:07.000 just fire. Like he I think of that song Murder 0:43:07.080 --> 0:43:09.400 with him and bun which is my one. I mean, 0:43:09.440 --> 0:43:11.480 I just posted this song like maybe a week ago. 0:43:11.640 --> 0:43:13.480 Listening to it, I was like, how is this? It's 0:43:13.520 --> 0:43:15.360 two of the best verses ever, but for different reasons, 0:43:15.400 --> 0:43:16.080 Like bun Bee. 0:43:16.080 --> 0:43:19.160 Was more of the like intricately the lyricist. Yes, but 0:43:19.680 --> 0:43:23.640 Pimps ship just hit so two people. 0:43:24.680 --> 0:43:26.560 A lot of people can do it, but it's two 0:43:26.600 --> 0:43:30.960 people that always distinctively make a record and make you 0:43:31.040 --> 0:43:33.000 bounce when you hear it, Like you want to bounce 0:43:33.040 --> 0:43:33.680 to the beat. 0:43:33.920 --> 0:43:37.080 And the record. A lot of songs producers make. 0:43:37.000 --> 0:43:39.600 The beat bounce, but if you like take like MJG 0:43:39.719 --> 0:43:42.040 from A B and MG, every time he raps the 0:43:42.080 --> 0:43:43.320 fucking beat, just start bouncing. 0:43:43.480 --> 0:43:45.960 Same thing with Pimps. Like Little John told me a 0:43:46.000 --> 0:43:46.680 secret one day. 0:43:46.719 --> 0:43:51.839 He said, I was in the booth rapping and I'm 0:43:51.920 --> 0:43:55.320 just rapping to the song, and he like, if you 0:43:55.400 --> 0:43:58.000 want the song to bounce, you gotta bounce while you 0:43:58.120 --> 0:43:59.280 wrapped the lyrics. 0:44:00.040 --> 0:44:01.560 He's like, you ain't in there. Bouncing. 0:44:02.640 --> 0:44:05.279 I gotta bounce and do the ship, and now the 0:44:05.560 --> 0:44:08.000 lyrics start bounce. He's like, yeah, like that love John 0:44:08.080 --> 0:44:09.560 taught me. Taught me some ship in the lab. 0:44:09.640 --> 0:44:13.120 Yeah. I remember we made Shake that Monkey and he 0:44:13.320 --> 0:44:14.120 gave me the beat. 0:44:14.360 --> 0:44:16.360 There was no hook on it, and I came to 0:44:16.480 --> 0:44:19.399 the studio when he wasn't there, and I recorded three 0:44:19.560 --> 0:44:23.920 verses with a hook, whole fucking song. Come back the 0:44:24.040 --> 0:44:27.239 next day and he and he is there and I 0:44:27.320 --> 0:44:29.600 play it for him and I didn't even think. He 0:44:29.680 --> 0:44:32.200 let the whole song play. He was like click. 0:44:32.440 --> 0:44:34.279 He's like, that's not the idea I have for that beat, 0:44:34.960 --> 0:44:36.760 and just goes the hook. 0:44:36.719 --> 0:44:40.439 Dumped my ship, and then he goes in. He goes 0:44:40.480 --> 0:44:43.480 in there and does the hook, which is him fucking 0:44:44.880 --> 0:44:47.960 he's doing. He does like fifty takes and consolidates him 0:44:48.000 --> 0:44:49.800 and makes it sound like one hundred people. 0:44:50.960 --> 0:44:52.600 And he's like, that's the song. So I went back 0:44:52.600 --> 0:44:56.000 to the hotel we were in Miami. I wrote Shake 0:44:56.040 --> 0:44:58.359 that Monkey. I came back. He's like, that's the song. Okay, okay. 0:44:58.640 --> 0:45:01.719 So that's how we record. Really like working with producers 0:45:01.800 --> 0:45:03.640 that produce. I work with a lot of beat makers 0:45:04.160 --> 0:45:05.880 who give you a beat, and then I end up 0:45:05.920 --> 0:45:10.320 producing it. But I like working with producers who you know, 0:45:10.440 --> 0:45:13.839 the jazzy phase and banks, and for producers who tell 0:45:13.920 --> 0:45:16.719 you words are cup but the flow is wrong, you know, 0:45:16.960 --> 0:45:19.440 or do your voice like this on that part right there, 0:45:19.600 --> 0:45:22.719 or switch that line and say that you know, just 0:45:22.800 --> 0:45:25.600 a little shit that makes the song better, and they 0:45:25.680 --> 0:45:28.480 produce a song. Because I am very much a producer 0:45:28.560 --> 0:45:32.280 who doesn't ever really want credit for it. I produced 0:45:32.320 --> 0:45:35.880 them near the majority of I produce a lot of 0:45:35.920 --> 0:45:38.400 two stresses, a lot a lot I made the beats, 0:45:38.680 --> 0:45:40.040 and a lot of the ones that people gave me 0:45:40.120 --> 0:45:42.040 the beats, I still went and produced the fucking song. 0:45:42.400 --> 0:45:46.920 But I like when I'm working with somebody who's telling 0:45:46.960 --> 0:45:48.640 me how to make a song, because I can make 0:45:48.640 --> 0:45:50.480 these two short songs all day, but I want the 0:45:50.560 --> 0:45:53.000 different flavor by every now and then. I would let 0:45:53.040 --> 0:45:54.840 one of the homies write a song for me, Like 0:45:54.920 --> 0:45:56.759 why you gotta let a homie write a song so 0:45:56.880 --> 0:46:00.439 I have a different flow on certain songs. Every album 0:46:00.440 --> 0:46:02.560 I've ever made, I probably let one homie write me 0:46:02.640 --> 0:46:04.399 a song just to get a little different shit. 0:46:04.520 --> 0:46:08.839 Father Dom wrote some songs for me Dangerous Dame wrote 0:46:08.880 --> 0:46:09.640 some songs for me. 0:46:10.600 --> 0:46:14.319 You end up putting out this album that's on the desk, 0:46:14.400 --> 0:46:16.600 shout to getting it, which it might be my favorite 0:46:16.600 --> 0:46:20.960 album of yours. This was supposed to be your last album, right, 0:46:21.480 --> 0:46:24.480 was this? This was the retirement album? YEP, album number ten. 0:46:26.480 --> 0:46:28.239 Not a lot of rappers had ten albums at that time. 0:46:28.280 --> 0:46:29.440 I don't think anybody, dude. 0:46:29.360 --> 0:46:32.399 Yeah, because this is ninety six, so that's fuck yeah. 0:46:32.400 --> 0:46:34.040 I don't think. I mean ten albums by nineteen ninety 0:46:34.080 --> 0:46:35.960 six is insane. Yeah, I don't think anyone artists had 0:46:36.000 --> 0:46:36.600 ten albums yet. 0:46:36.600 --> 0:46:38.640 Plus you had the Dangerous Coup album, like, by the way, 0:46:38.680 --> 0:46:43.160 great album, but you take that that hiatus and then 0:46:43.200 --> 0:46:45.320 you come back we Can't Stay Away, which had some 0:46:45.400 --> 0:46:47.080 shit jay Z's on that album. I think Jermaine and 0:46:47.120 --> 0:46:51.919 Prieze on that album. What brought you to the point 0:46:51.960 --> 0:46:54.719 in ninety six to be like this is it, I'm out? 0:46:54.880 --> 0:46:57.759 And then take me through those three years where you 0:46:58.360 --> 0:47:00.680 get pull pulled back in and you make Can't Stay Away? 0:47:01.640 --> 0:47:04.719 Well, it wasn't even about retiring. It was about. 0:47:04.600 --> 0:47:08.440 Announcing the retirement. You're thinking you want to do something, 0:47:09.760 --> 0:47:12.200 you know, something that rappers don't do. 0:47:12.719 --> 0:47:14.360 And I'm like, I know you're the first guy to 0:47:14.400 --> 0:47:17.400 fake retire. Yeah, so yeah, master P did it. A 0:47:17.440 --> 0:47:21.520 few people did it after, but it was just an idea. 0:47:21.760 --> 0:47:23.919 I'm like, I say it on the beginning of the album, 0:47:24.080 --> 0:47:25.640 when the song Getting It comes on, I'm like, it's 0:47:25.640 --> 0:47:28.520 getting close to the end, y'alls the last album. It's 0:47:28.640 --> 0:47:34.360 just bait because I'm talking, I'm talking shit that the 0:47:34.440 --> 0:47:36.719 album was supposed to be named album number ten, but 0:47:37.000 --> 0:47:40.320 Getting It, Getting It came out so amazing with Parliament 0:47:40.360 --> 0:47:44.239 fucking delic They shot the video with and were just like, 0:47:44.360 --> 0:47:46.440 you gotta name this album this because it's gonna be 0:47:46.440 --> 0:47:48.279 a big record. It's gonna get you more sales, right, 0:47:48.400 --> 0:47:51.160 So we compromised an album number ten is in parentheses. 0:47:51.480 --> 0:47:54.280 But the whole thing was just popping my college ten albums. 0:47:54.520 --> 0:47:57.759 Of those ten albums at this this was about to 0:47:57.840 --> 0:48:00.400 be the sixth platinum. So I'm at the time I'm 0:48:00.440 --> 0:48:02.760 coming up with this concept. I've already got five platinum 0:48:02.760 --> 0:48:06.160 albums and I got like one or two gold albums 0:48:06.880 --> 0:48:09.080 at the time, and I'm like, when I announced that 0:48:09.120 --> 0:48:12.800 I got ten albums, I retire, I'm the winner. You 0:48:12.880 --> 0:48:16.160 know what I mean, Like I'm ahead of everybody in 0:48:16.280 --> 0:48:19.480 the count the guy who was like he can't wrap, 0:48:19.960 --> 0:48:22.000 the guy who's like he can't do it again. 0:48:21.880 --> 0:48:22.799 It's like your victory lap. 0:48:22.960 --> 0:48:25.279 Kind of like all the industry, I'm just slapping the whole, 0:48:25.760 --> 0:48:28.759 all the haters in the face with actual numbers, like 0:48:28.840 --> 0:48:31.200 this is out number ten, This is fucking numbers. So 0:48:32.040 --> 0:48:34.800 the kickback was I did a lot of features after this. 0:48:35.360 --> 0:48:39.520 I was getting probably like this nineteen mid nineties. I'm 0:48:39.560 --> 0:48:42.520 getting you know, forty to fifty even up for a 0:48:42.600 --> 0:48:45.720 feature just to come on somebody's album sixteen bars. 0:48:46.040 --> 0:48:47.520 And I was my hustle for a while. I was 0:48:47.600 --> 0:48:52.000 in New York. I'm doing deals about labels and. 0:48:52.200 --> 0:48:54.839 Budgets and shitting fucking it, getting all kind of people 0:48:54.880 --> 0:48:57.280 paid and shit and just willing and Dylan. 0:48:57.760 --> 0:49:01.759 But it was never any tension of like retiring. The 0:49:01.880 --> 0:49:03.640 whole was a marketing ploy. 0:49:03.800 --> 0:49:07.600 So what we did with me and Jive Records and 0:49:07.800 --> 0:49:11.840 everybody whose mind was working on the campaign was we 0:49:12.080 --> 0:49:18.680 literally said too shorts retiring and instantly got the entire 0:49:19.320 --> 0:49:23.000 media all across the board to give us free advertising. 0:49:23.640 --> 0:49:25.400 And that's exactly we had. 0:49:25.480 --> 0:49:30.600 We held a fucking retirement party, heavy media invites. We 0:49:30.760 --> 0:49:33.120 held a press conference, heavy Meat, and it. 0:49:33.239 --> 0:49:34.719 Just the story went everywhere. 0:49:35.000 --> 0:49:38.200 The fucking album came out the box platinum, so that 0:49:38.400 --> 0:49:39.880 was that wasn't really a retirement, that. 0:49:40.000 --> 0:49:42.160 Was just and then three years later you could do 0:49:42.280 --> 0:49:44.320 the opposite two shorts return album. 0:49:44.480 --> 0:49:48.279 It gives you a whole other free advertising play like. 0:49:49.120 --> 0:49:53.360 And you know, through these different phases of my career, 0:49:53.680 --> 0:49:55.799 which I think that was a very big turning point. 0:49:56.000 --> 0:50:00.279 Moving to Atlanta was a turning point. Yeah, coming back 0:50:00.360 --> 0:50:04.080 in two thousand and four and catching some heat with 0:50:04.360 --> 0:50:06.960 Shake that Monkey, and then. 0:50:07.040 --> 0:50:09.520 A year later Blow the Whistle, and that just kicked 0:50:09.560 --> 0:50:10.480 in a whole new phase. 0:50:11.520 --> 0:50:14.400 And you know, and even now, like I feel like 0:50:15.680 --> 0:50:19.760 whatever I did before twenty twenty, I dropped the album 0:50:19.840 --> 0:50:24.879 called the Fucking Pimp Tape, and the Pimp Tape did 0:50:24.960 --> 0:50:27.000 good for me, made me a lot of money. It 0:50:27.320 --> 0:50:29.640 was some good looks, you know, some nice little features 0:50:29.640 --> 0:50:34.759 and shit. But when the twenty twenties came in, I 0:50:34.880 --> 0:50:38.360 started thinking, well, damn, I had a lot of traction 0:50:38.560 --> 0:50:45.200 in the eighties, major major run in the nineties, it 0:50:45.360 --> 0:50:47.680 was a lot of love for Blow the whistles Shake 0:50:47.719 --> 0:50:51.960 that Monkey in early two thousands, the twenty tens, I 0:50:52.160 --> 0:50:54.320 was pimping the shit out of Blow the Whistle and 0:50:54.360 --> 0:50:55.360 Shake that Monkey forever. 0:50:56.080 --> 0:50:58.480 You know, got a little good little look did the 0:50:58.560 --> 0:51:01.200 duet album with E forty You also have some like 0:51:01.440 --> 0:51:03.840 other Gangsters and Strippers is a classic? Yeah, And I 0:51:03.960 --> 0:51:06.160 dropped some underground albums that they vibe. 0:51:06.400 --> 0:51:06.600 I was. 0:51:06.719 --> 0:51:08.320 I was really doing a lot of a lot of 0:51:08.560 --> 0:51:11.880 making a lot of money off off with Empire, off 0:51:11.920 --> 0:51:15.560 of just digital only releases, which you know, no matter 0:51:15.640 --> 0:51:18.000 where it got to, it got to these pockets, right, 0:51:18.120 --> 0:51:19.960 and then the pimp and then you and forty have 0:51:20.080 --> 0:51:23.080 this like obviously, yeah, you guys are like putting out 0:51:23.160 --> 0:51:25.960 joint albums together, and you guys are synonymous with each other. 0:51:26.040 --> 0:51:28.880 The pimp tape comes out, I'm active in the twenty teens, 0:51:29.080 --> 0:51:33.120 and then I'm like, Okay, we're doing this thing like 0:51:33.239 --> 0:51:35.240 I was naming the E forties in the Fat Joe's 0:51:35.400 --> 0:51:37.960 where we're trying to we're trying to write the story 0:51:38.040 --> 0:51:40.920 of how old can a rapper be, how long can 0:51:41.000 --> 0:51:43.799 he be popular? How who's the oldest guy that's gonna 0:51:43.840 --> 0:51:46.600 rock a crowd right stadium? And rap because we look, 0:51:46.840 --> 0:51:49.120 what are we looking at? Blues singers and rock and 0:51:49.280 --> 0:51:50.480 roll bands and. 0:51:50.800 --> 0:51:55.759 Yeah, oh zones are still touring and like Jags Mick 0:51:55.840 --> 0:51:57.200 Jaggers seventy eight something like that. 0:51:57.480 --> 0:52:00.400 Yeah, if you gave me the Temptations, Diana Ross and 0:52:00.520 --> 0:52:02.359 you're going the four Time Show, I'm pulling up. I'm 0:52:02.360 --> 0:52:07.800 pulling per So I think that that is my motivation 0:52:07.960 --> 0:52:11.360 right now to do this in the twenty twenties, to 0:52:12.640 --> 0:52:15.400 be a part of the movie. Drop three albums in 0:52:15.480 --> 0:52:18.319 one year, keep doing these big shows. I'm doing really 0:52:18.440 --> 0:52:21.560 big crowds every weekend every month. 0:52:22.000 --> 0:52:24.040 Yeah you are, You are busy on the road. 0:52:24.880 --> 0:52:28.719 And I'll be fifty nine years old this month, and 0:52:28.840 --> 0:52:32.320 I'm just like, you can't tell me. You cannot tell me. 0:52:32.480 --> 0:52:34.799 Stay home and sit in a rocking chair and tell 0:52:34.880 --> 0:52:36.239 old stories about being on tour. 0:52:36.440 --> 0:52:38.239 Every time I talk with T. K. Kirkling the other day, 0:52:38.280 --> 0:52:41.160 Tk's like, you know he's older as well, he's older 0:52:41.200 --> 0:52:44.120 than me. Yeah, he's my homie. Yeah. Tk's like, you know, 0:52:45.280 --> 0:52:47.080 this is it's on your mind, you know what I mean? 0:52:47.239 --> 0:52:49.560 Like age, Like he's said the same thing. 0:52:49.600 --> 0:52:52.040 He's like, no one's gonna tell you know, the rolling 0:52:52.080 --> 0:52:53.920 stones to stop touring like exactly. 0:52:54.320 --> 0:52:56.520 You know, as long as I got this game, people 0:52:56.560 --> 0:52:57.160 will pull up. 0:52:57.800 --> 0:53:00.640 So to the other guys that are ogs that are 0:53:00.640 --> 0:53:02.480 still pushing forward, I'm just I'm being a part of 0:53:02.560 --> 0:53:07.120 that movement. And I don't bash the young artists. I 0:53:07.239 --> 0:53:10.280 support them one. I like a lot of the new music. 0:53:10.719 --> 0:53:13.120 I think that a lot of stuff back in the 0:53:13.239 --> 0:53:17.080 day that we don't remember was garbage, for sure, and 0:53:17.400 --> 0:53:19.880 hip hop had a lot of garbage from day one 0:53:20.160 --> 0:53:23.400 until this day. And to sit there and be the 0:53:23.480 --> 0:53:26.080 kind of og who goes all that new shit is 0:53:26.160 --> 0:53:29.520 garbage is a lie because most of that old shit 0:53:29.640 --> 0:53:32.319 was garbage. And the ship that rose to the top 0:53:33.040 --> 0:53:35.040 was the good shit that we remember, and we call 0:53:35.120 --> 0:53:38.120 it the golden era of these certain years, and man, 0:53:38.200 --> 0:53:38.759 with old. 0:53:38.680 --> 0:53:41.960 School shit was dope, but you forgot all the whack 0:53:42.040 --> 0:53:42.360 people that. 0:53:43.040 --> 0:53:46.040 Oh God, if I could just go through my crates 0:53:46.080 --> 0:53:49.840 of records, I probably stopped buying records in the early nineties. 0:53:50.320 --> 0:53:52.040 I can go through my crates and you just be like, 0:53:52.200 --> 0:53:53.640 I never heard this garbage because I. 0:53:53.680 --> 0:53:57.720 Bought everything that came out. So's it's never changed. 0:53:57.840 --> 0:54:01.520 Is there anybody from let's say, like the newer class 0:54:01.600 --> 0:54:04.560 of mcs that kind of you have a little bit 0:54:04.680 --> 0:54:06.440 like kind of remind you of yourself a little in 0:54:06.560 --> 0:54:08.560 terms of just maybe subject matter swagger. 0:54:09.760 --> 0:54:11.480 I mean, for a while there, I was seeing the 0:54:11.800 --> 0:54:14.680 movement in like YG like too short ish, like I 0:54:14.800 --> 0:54:17.520 see it, and he was just you know, he wasn't 0:54:17.520 --> 0:54:20.279 trying to be a super lyricist, right, always talking shit, 0:54:20.640 --> 0:54:22.200 pull up with all the homies and just be like 0:54:22.280 --> 0:54:24.120 y'all can't say shit, and you know it was the 0:54:24.200 --> 0:54:30.760 same kind of vibe. But you know, anybody that's spitting 0:54:30.840 --> 0:54:35.640 that game is I think that you have DNA hip 0:54:35.640 --> 0:54:40.200 hop DNA, and you see it in the rappers. 0:54:40.200 --> 0:54:43.719 Sue evolved from jay Z, the ones who evolved from 0:54:43.800 --> 0:54:45.879 Lil Wayne, you know what I mean. You see sim 0:54:46.000 --> 0:54:46.760 I think Simba. 0:54:46.960 --> 0:54:48.800 I mean it's weird to say, cause Simba plays you 0:54:48.840 --> 0:54:52.000 in a movie, but Simba, he's like a great MC. 0:54:52.480 --> 0:54:53.680 But sometimes Symbol. 0:54:53.440 --> 0:54:58.000 Will deliver the most player ill lines in the simplest 0:54:58.040 --> 0:55:00.520 way that make people like and he's freestyles. 0:55:00.560 --> 0:55:01.640 He got like damn like. 0:55:02.600 --> 0:55:06.239 So then you know, the DNA of two short e 0:55:06.520 --> 0:55:10.520 forty is like considered to be that bass shit. But 0:55:11.360 --> 0:55:15.360 if you take away the geography of it and just 0:55:15.480 --> 0:55:19.440 go that game that just I'm Gonna Save Me and. 0:55:19.480 --> 0:55:21.160 Forty because it's a lot of people that do it. 0:55:21.600 --> 0:55:24.879 But if you take just away like that's a base 0:55:24.920 --> 0:55:28.239 shit and just say these two rappers, it's a lot 0:55:28.400 --> 0:55:31.600 of hip hop DNA that came from the game that 0:55:31.719 --> 0:55:34.680 we spit. And it's a lot of rappers that spit 0:55:34.760 --> 0:55:37.799 that game because they grew up on that. Snoop Dogg 0:55:37.880 --> 0:55:39.960 is from that lineage, you know, all the way down 0:55:40.040 --> 0:55:43.200 to guys like ge Perico, Like it's it's a lot 0:55:43.320 --> 0:55:45.919 of them, and they when they sit there and say, 0:55:46.719 --> 0:55:49.840 I'm this type of lyricist, this is my look, but 0:55:49.960 --> 0:55:51.719 you still from the game. I can hear it when 0:55:51.719 --> 0:55:54.200 you rap if all your ship gotta be gamed up, 0:55:54.280 --> 0:55:57.560 like like Gwap Dad is a dope ass rapper, but 0:55:57.600 --> 0:55:59.000 he gotta he gotta spit. 0:55:58.880 --> 0:56:01.839 Game because he comes from the game DNA. And it's 0:56:01.920 --> 0:56:02.680 a lot of them. 0:56:03.120 --> 0:56:06.640 So you know, even the Russell's hot right now, but 0:56:07.480 --> 0:56:10.160 he's spitting game. Listen to the punch lines. 0:56:10.320 --> 0:56:13.200 Is and it's real. It's easily consumable. The way he 0:56:13.280 --> 0:56:17.520 says shit, you'd be like, oh shit, like why nobody 0:56:17.560 --> 0:56:19.560 ever say it that way. But he ain't say nothing 0:56:19.560 --> 0:56:21.560 about pimper and hole and selling dope. For sure. 0:56:21.640 --> 0:56:26.560 He's still spitting game and that game cloth is. It's 0:56:27.040 --> 0:56:29.000 very prevalent in hip hop. 0:56:29.200 --> 0:56:29.360 You know. 0:56:29.520 --> 0:56:33.200 T I comes from that, ball and G come from that. 0:56:33.920 --> 0:56:36.480 It's a lot of motherfuckers that if you if you 0:56:36.600 --> 0:56:40.359 from the UGK DNA, then you from the too short DNA, 0:56:40.440 --> 0:56:41.360 because that's what UGK. 0:56:41.920 --> 0:56:44.000 They wanted to spit game. Like when they seen Born 0:56:44.040 --> 0:56:44.399 in Mac. 0:56:45.200 --> 0:56:47.520 PIMC said, when I saw that fucking album cover to 0:56:47.600 --> 0:56:49.919 Born to Mac, he said, before he even heard the music, 0:56:50.000 --> 0:56:51.120 he said, that's what I want to do. 0:56:51.840 --> 0:56:52.600 That shit right there. 0:56:52.680 --> 0:56:56.040 Yo. It's crazy too because you have your album covers 0:56:56.080 --> 0:57:00.279 were so ill like that's one thing about too short, Like, bro, 0:57:00.360 --> 0:57:03.799 you got them like first like I don't know, six 0:57:03.920 --> 0:57:07.719 seven eight album covers were so fire, like look at. 0:57:07.680 --> 0:57:10.880 The first Outcast album, DRE three thousand is wearing a 0:57:10.960 --> 0:57:14.320 pimp had. That's some too short ship. Yeah that you know, 0:57:14.440 --> 0:57:15.640 they probably said what you want to do. 0:57:15.719 --> 0:57:17.840 I just I just put out of I think at 0:57:17.840 --> 0:57:19.960 the game where you fit in with the pimp had 0:57:20.480 --> 0:57:21.920 And then I was I was putting it in the 0:57:22.000 --> 0:57:23.720 videos too. I was wearing the pimp hat driving in 0:57:23.760 --> 0:57:26.120 the Cadillac. Motherfuckers like I want that. 0:57:26.360 --> 0:57:28.880 Short dogs in the house with the cartoon and illustration. 0:57:29.080 --> 0:57:31.760 That was before doggie style, right, Yeah. 0:57:32.320 --> 0:57:35.000 Snoop Dogg's first album cover is very reminiscent of one 0:57:35.040 --> 0:57:35.920 of my album covers. 0:57:36.320 --> 0:57:39.240 And you know, I mean you were the first dog 0:57:39.320 --> 0:57:43.040 to Snoop dog You know what I mean? You know 0:57:44.240 --> 0:57:47.440 it was that's my guy. Of you guys did a 0:57:47.680 --> 0:57:48.160 album to guy. 0:57:48.160 --> 0:57:51.000 As we became friends, I was kind of thrown off 0:57:51.520 --> 0:57:54.040 early on, but then we became really good friends. 0:57:54.080 --> 0:57:56.320 What was that a thing cognitive like cognitzant of that? 0:57:56.360 --> 0:57:59.800 I can't see the word, but were you like cognizant? 0:58:00.280 --> 0:58:04.160 I mean they were saying beach Snoop Dog, Well, I'm 0:58:04.200 --> 0:58:06.320 short dog. It was you're from l A. You know 0:58:06.680 --> 0:58:09.720 y'all say bit like from the start, I took it 0:58:09.840 --> 0:58:14.360 as flattering. And I also the level of how it 0:58:14.440 --> 0:58:18.600 blew up is Doctor dre Is Death Road is blowing up. 0:58:18.920 --> 0:58:21.800 I'm like, this ship is helping me. There's no way 0:58:21.840 --> 0:58:24.320 I'm going to rock the boat and say, man, them 0:58:24.400 --> 0:58:27.840 dude's over there stole my ship. Whatever, Like they I 0:58:27.960 --> 0:58:30.400 immediately saw for what it was. But when he told 0:58:30.480 --> 0:58:33.920 me then I knew. I knew I was right. Like 0:58:34.480 --> 0:58:38.360 he said, he said, man, we grew up listening to 0:58:38.440 --> 0:58:38.880 two show. 0:58:39.200 --> 0:58:42.640 They was probably like middle school, bumping that ship and 0:58:42.840 --> 0:58:45.680 fucking he like they put me in the studio. I 0:58:45.760 --> 0:58:49.600 started rapping and just said bitch like I'm like, I 0:58:49.680 --> 0:58:51.880 get it. I mean, you know, Ice Cube said it 0:58:52.720 --> 0:58:55.040 at one point he was doing a I think it 0:58:55.120 --> 0:58:55.959 was a bitch as a bitch. 0:58:56.360 --> 0:58:58.120 He gets it. End the song, he just yell out bitch. 0:58:58.160 --> 0:59:00.400 I think he's the first person that said it outside 0:59:00.440 --> 0:59:02.919 of me, And people go, why didn't you trade market? 0:59:03.040 --> 0:59:05.400 Why don't you make people have to actually permission to 0:59:05.440 --> 0:59:05.640 say it. 0:59:05.880 --> 0:59:09.160 I'm like, it wouldn't be an iconic pop thing if 0:59:09.200 --> 0:59:10.760 I controlled it and said I'm the only one that 0:59:10.840 --> 0:59:11.200 could do it. 0:59:11.840 --> 0:59:14.160 It's a gift to the world. When I heard. 0:59:14.040 --> 0:59:16.600 Comedians do it, I seen I saw sitcoms doing it, 0:59:17.920 --> 0:59:20.960 it just became something that everybody knew. You got to 0:59:21.000 --> 0:59:25.440 give a lot of credit to Snoop Dogg for helping 0:59:26.960 --> 0:59:30.720 put that out there in the universe. And then I 0:59:30.800 --> 0:59:33.520 think when I say what's my favorite word and blow 0:59:33.560 --> 0:59:37.960 the whistle. That kind of solidifies my ownership. I really 0:59:38.000 --> 0:59:40.680 said that in the song because I overheard a conversation 0:59:40.840 --> 0:59:43.800 one day. You have an album called that, yeah, and 0:59:44.480 --> 0:59:47.640 I really was on that I'm not gonna let this 0:59:47.720 --> 0:59:49.840 get away from me. I heard a conversation one day 0:59:50.560 --> 0:59:56.600 that I was not involved in, and they were saying, bitch, 0:59:56.720 --> 0:59:58.640 that's the Snoop Dogg shit. And somebody was like, no, 0:59:59.000 --> 1:00:01.640 true Short been saying that, and it was like, no, bro, 1:00:02.040 --> 1:00:03.600 I don't know who the fuck too Short is that 1:00:03.760 --> 1:00:06.680 Snoop Dogg shit. And I'm like, Okay, I gotta get 1:00:06.760 --> 1:00:10.600 my shit back. I just started doing stuff like name 1:00:10.680 --> 1:00:11.840 the album, say it. 1:00:12.080 --> 1:00:15.840 In a single. Just just give me my shit back 1:00:15.840 --> 1:00:16.240 a little bit. 1:00:16.240 --> 1:00:16.360 You know. 1:00:17.120 --> 1:00:19.600 I don't care it belongs to the world, right, No, 1:00:19.760 --> 1:00:22.040 but I mean in hip hop it like it's your thing. 1:00:22.560 --> 1:00:27.120 But me and Freddie B came with that, and Lone 1:00:27.160 --> 1:00:30.560 before us, there was a guy named Rudy Raymore Dolomite 1:00:30.560 --> 1:00:31.840 who was in movies yelling. 1:00:31.640 --> 1:00:35.480 Out the bitch lone before us Dolomite. So I remember 1:00:35.520 --> 1:00:38.040 Dolomite doing skits sound like some Snoop albums and shit. 1:00:38.160 --> 1:00:38.360 Yeah. 1:00:38.480 --> 1:00:41.840 So yeah, So I'm not the inventor. But you know 1:00:41.960 --> 1:00:44.680 I put my touch on it. He yelled at in 1:00:44.760 --> 1:00:46.600 a few movies, so you know, we give we give 1:00:46.640 --> 1:00:47.680 the credit to Dolomite. 1:00:48.120 --> 1:00:53.240 What has been the craziest blow the Whistle moment for you? 1:00:54.040 --> 1:00:57.400 Where you were like, this is insane. I mean, obviously 1:00:58.080 --> 1:01:01.040 it gets played everywhere. Fucking Jay's He's got a classic. 1:01:00.760 --> 1:01:02.760 For a lot of viral clips, a lot of viral 1:01:02.800 --> 1:01:04.600 clips that are funny as fuck. With Blow the Whistle, 1:01:04.680 --> 1:01:06.080 it's like, no matter if you got if you got 1:01:06.160 --> 1:01:06.720 a Grandma, you. 1:01:06.760 --> 1:01:10.520 Got a I could do top ten viral. It's just 1:01:10.880 --> 1:01:14.160 moments with the song. But I mean the one that 1:01:15.600 --> 1:01:18.280 a clip that I can think of that stands out. 1:01:18.640 --> 1:01:22.480 I actually heard the story without singing the clip multiple times, 1:01:22.840 --> 1:01:25.840 and it's the one about babies. There's a clip I 1:01:25.960 --> 1:01:30.000 saw where a baby is watching Blow the Whistle video 1:01:30.800 --> 1:01:33.560 and the mom turns it off and the baby cries. 1:01:33.840 --> 1:01:35.960 She turns it on, the baby smiles, turns it off, 1:01:36.120 --> 1:01:40.120 cry And people actually have told me that story multiple 1:01:40.200 --> 1:01:42.919 times that Blow the Whistle is the song I play 1:01:43.000 --> 1:01:46.040 for my baby and to cheer cheer up the baby. 1:01:47.160 --> 1:01:51.640 And I think that if you had to go scientifically 1:01:51.800 --> 1:01:57.400 on that song. It is hitting those notes. It's something 1:01:57.480 --> 1:02:01.600 in the vibration can soothe, is hit no notes and 1:02:02.280 --> 1:02:05.360 it actually it's probably one of the only songs I 1:02:05.440 --> 1:02:07.640 ever had that the grandmother's and the grand babies like 1:02:08.160 --> 1:02:08.560 so you. 1:02:08.680 --> 1:02:10.080 Just got new life to When the Eagles won the 1:02:10.080 --> 1:02:12.600 Super Bowl, they adopted it as their song, and. 1:02:12.680 --> 1:02:14.120 Some people out there thought it was a new song. 1:02:14.560 --> 1:02:17.200 Yeah, it was just so random because you see you 1:02:17.280 --> 1:02:19.720 see Gilly just turning up to blow the whistle. 1:02:19.880 --> 1:02:25.320 Believe me, I thanked him personally appreciate it. Yeah, it's 1:02:25.360 --> 1:02:27.000 just it's good vibrations. 1:02:26.560 --> 1:02:30.560 And it's who asked me this ship one day? 1:02:30.560 --> 1:02:33.400 Oh, Jermaine dupre ASTs me. We were at a club 1:02:33.480 --> 1:02:38.040 this many years ago in Vegas and he knew Little 1:02:38.120 --> 1:02:41.920 John produced it because that's his boy. They're like really close, right, 1:02:42.680 --> 1:02:45.520 And he said, man, I just want to ask. She 1:02:45.640 --> 1:02:48.120 was like, what the fuck did you and Little John 1:02:48.200 --> 1:02:49.000 put in that song? 1:02:49.160 --> 1:02:53.000 Like, like what was the ingredients? Like, I don't know, bro, 1:02:53.160 --> 1:02:53.560 listen to it. 1:02:53.640 --> 1:02:57.880 As basic as fuck, Like as basic as fuck the production, 1:02:59.120 --> 1:03:01.000 it ain't a lot going on, Yeah. 1:03:00.840 --> 1:03:02.120 But it's it's infectious. 1:03:02.200 --> 1:03:06.840 Man, It's it's just me and dj A men talk 1:03:06.880 --> 1:03:09.400 about the ship all the time when we're like, what's 1:03:09.480 --> 1:03:12.200 like the West Coast national anthem and like that includes 1:03:12.320 --> 1:03:15.040 la that I'm just the entire West Coast and it's 1:03:15.160 --> 1:03:19.120 it's I just you know, he's got his Bay Area bias. 1:03:19.160 --> 1:03:20.880 But I think it's blowla whistle. I was like, I 1:03:20.960 --> 1:03:22.439 think it's if you just think. 1:03:22.360 --> 1:03:24.840 Of the national anthem for the West Coast, obviously there's like, 1:03:25.800 --> 1:03:28.040 you know, nothing but a g thing, and you know 1:03:28.480 --> 1:03:30.920 there's records, but blow the Whistle's done it. 1:03:31.200 --> 1:03:33.760 And I feel like me and forty have a. 1:03:35.320 --> 1:03:39.680 Lifelong friendly competition where it's okay to talk ship to 1:03:39.800 --> 1:03:43.440 each other, it's okay to critique and help each other. 1:03:44.280 --> 1:03:46.720 And I wasn't keeping. 1:03:46.520 --> 1:03:50.600 Tabs, but obviously he was, Oh he's yeah, I'm sure 1:03:50.640 --> 1:03:51.920 he's keeping tabs of. 1:03:52.640 --> 1:03:55.920 Tell me when to go versus bull the whistles. A 1:03:56.000 --> 1:03:58.760 lot of fans figure trying to figure that out. Another debate, 1:03:59.520 --> 1:03:59.880 and I. 1:04:00.080 --> 1:04:03.360 Forget what his logic was, but recently he said, all right, bro, 1:04:03.480 --> 1:04:06.040 you won, you won, you won something. 1:04:06.080 --> 1:04:06.400 He got it. 1:04:06.480 --> 1:04:07.760 If we talked to him, he'll tell us what his 1:04:07.880 --> 1:04:10.840 logic was. But that's funny, you know, they they both 1:04:10.880 --> 1:04:14.480 took a long time to go platinum. They've officially platinum, 1:04:14.800 --> 1:04:17.560 but something he has some mathematical. 1:04:17.080 --> 1:04:18.960 Equation where it blow the whistle one. 1:04:19.040 --> 1:04:25.520 I don't know. Yeah, it's interesting you are when I'm 1:04:25.520 --> 1:04:28.560 a kid. My picture of who you are is too short, 1:04:28.600 --> 1:04:31.360 scy one hundred bitches around him at all times, he's 1:04:31.520 --> 1:04:34.480 just fucking fighting bitches off of sticks. If you had 1:04:34.520 --> 1:04:38.040 to estimate not to get into your first what would 1:04:38.080 --> 1:04:41.440 you say, is your body count well, Chamberlain like, because 1:04:41.480 --> 1:04:42.680 you also have a song. 1:04:42.560 --> 1:04:47.440 About nineteen nine bitches. Yes, that was s must be 1:04:47.480 --> 1:04:48.040 a funny song. 1:04:48.160 --> 1:04:49.800 It was hilarious, by the way. It was great with 1:04:49.920 --> 1:04:50.960 the animated videos. 1:04:52.680 --> 1:04:56.200 So two short is a character that I made up, 1:04:56.800 --> 1:04:59.960 and I don't think a lot of women would really 1:05:00.160 --> 1:05:05.560 appreciate too Short per se. I've never tried to be 1:05:05.760 --> 1:05:08.080 that way with women in real life. Yeah, all that 1:05:08.320 --> 1:05:11.040 bit shit and some my dick bits, and I don't 1:05:11.160 --> 1:05:16.439 do that. I played kind of the opposite a lot. 1:05:16.400 --> 1:05:18.800 Of times, like really like Todd is a different guy. 1:05:18.760 --> 1:05:21.800 Really like gentlemen. But now when you get over to 1:05:22.560 --> 1:05:27.400 Todd Shaw, I've always even before I was famous, I 1:05:27.440 --> 1:05:31.360 always had like girlfriends and just like cute girlfriends, and 1:05:31.400 --> 1:05:34.120 they was like, you ugly motherfucking fuck up teeth, how 1:05:34.160 --> 1:05:35.120 you get all these cute girls? 1:05:35.600 --> 1:05:38.200 And it was just always the game. I learned it 1:05:38.200 --> 1:05:44.920 at a young age. And people come and say, well, 1:05:44.960 --> 1:05:48.520 what's the count, what's the count? I'm just like, it 1:05:48.600 --> 1:05:49.600 ain't no count. 1:05:49.720 --> 1:05:52.160 You know what it is like literally, Like you talked 1:05:52.200 --> 1:05:54.480 to some of the people that roll with me over 1:05:54.520 --> 1:05:59.480 the years, I'm super low key with everything these days, 1:06:00.080 --> 1:06:01.520 but for fucking about a. 1:06:01.600 --> 1:06:05.760 Thirty year run, I had a bit of two or 1:06:05.760 --> 1:06:06.600 three or four with me. 1:06:06.680 --> 1:06:11.560 At all times, like falsely wake up, everywhere we go, 1:06:11.880 --> 1:06:14.040 going to lunch, go to the barbershop, it's bitch in 1:06:14.120 --> 1:06:17.920 the car, Like I just I just love to be 1:06:18.080 --> 1:06:23.360 around beautiful women. So whether I would be fucking her 1:06:23.440 --> 1:06:26.640 or not, I'm like, let's go run around for a day, 1:06:26.920 --> 1:06:29.160 let's hang out for the next three days, just whatever. 1:06:29.600 --> 1:06:33.120 And I had a lot of female friends who fucking 1:06:33.360 --> 1:06:36.919 dine pieces, who would stay with me, pack up shit 1:06:36.960 --> 1:06:39.360 and just stay with me, and we would never even 1:06:39.440 --> 1:06:44.280 have sex. But while I'm with her, i'd probably fuck 1:06:44.360 --> 1:06:47.840 another girl and she'd just be helping me or cheering 1:06:47.920 --> 1:06:48.240 me on to. 1:06:48.280 --> 1:06:51.080 Some bringer hold me through, just like, what was the 1:06:51.160 --> 1:06:55.200 most amount of women you've been with it? Once? I 1:06:55.600 --> 1:07:00.760 guess I can answer that. One man never like talking 1:07:00.760 --> 1:07:03.760 about this kind of ship. But I figured, like. 1:07:05.920 --> 1:07:09.840 I figured, like in one night I had over and 1:07:09.960 --> 1:07:13.080 over and over again all night with like four chicks, 1:07:13.160 --> 1:07:17.240 and just it was just me, not having a fivesome, 1:07:17.880 --> 1:07:23.320 but just all night, all morning, however long, just anytime 1:07:23.360 --> 1:07:25.040 I wanted to just hit any one of the four. 1:07:26.040 --> 1:07:28.280 And you know, it's not really like anything to brag, 1:07:29.200 --> 1:07:32.480 not anything to brag on, because at some point it 1:07:32.640 --> 1:07:37.640 becomes a burden on the individual who's supposedly, you know, 1:07:37.840 --> 1:07:41.000 trying to pull this feet off. It's not it's your 1:07:41.080 --> 1:07:43.760 tall task, yes, because but I was. I tell you 1:07:43.840 --> 1:07:46.520 one thing that that that kind of shook me up 1:07:46.520 --> 1:07:49.760 a little bit. They got they got to a point, 1:07:49.880 --> 1:07:52.680 it's many many years ago that I would do my 1:07:52.760 --> 1:07:54.200 little bragging and whatnot. 1:07:54.720 --> 1:07:56.400 I would be like, oh, you see her over there, 1:07:56.600 --> 1:07:59.280 I hit that one time, two times or whatever, and. 1:08:00.840 --> 1:08:04.040 Some some a group of like super bad bitches walked 1:08:04.160 --> 1:08:08.320 into a club or wherever we were one night and 1:08:08.440 --> 1:08:11.520 I told my homie, I said, I fucked all four 1:08:11.560 --> 1:08:14.400 of them. Not at the same time, Like over years, 1:08:14.600 --> 1:08:18.120 I fucked all four of them, And he said, you 1:08:18.200 --> 1:08:20.160 ever thought that maybe they fucked you? 1:08:20.920 --> 1:08:22.680 And I'm like, like what, they passed me around. He's 1:08:22.720 --> 1:08:24.479 like maybe maybe. 1:08:24.840 --> 1:08:28.000 I'm like, damn, hey, because that's that's how you would 1:08:28.040 --> 1:08:30.840 look at it. If one girl fucked your whole crew, 1:08:31.200 --> 1:08:32.800 you'd be like, yeah, we passed her around, like you're 1:08:32.840 --> 1:08:35.599 the whole grow I'm like, dang, the look at They 1:08:35.640 --> 1:08:36.840 might have looked at you the same way. 1:08:37.200 --> 1:08:38.920 One of them told him it was cool, and then 1:08:38.920 --> 1:08:41.200 the other one tried and they spread me around over. 1:08:41.360 --> 1:08:42.280 They passed me around. 1:08:42.720 --> 1:08:45.600 So you know, when you think about that and you 1:08:45.680 --> 1:08:48.760 wake up after a night of like letting four women 1:08:49.400 --> 1:08:51.240 have their way with you, and then you see another 1:08:51.280 --> 1:08:53.200 group of four women that you had over a period 1:08:53.200 --> 1:08:54.880 of time and they're all friends. 1:08:54.960 --> 1:08:57.400 It's not a good feeling, bro. It's not a good feeling. 1:08:57.520 --> 1:08:59.240 Like if I was a pimp and those are my 1:08:59.360 --> 1:09:00.960 ex holes, so I'd be like, yeah, a bit, just 1:09:01.040 --> 1:09:03.000 got money for me. But that wasn't the case. So 1:09:03.479 --> 1:09:06.679 you know, after a while, I started being a little more. 1:09:07.120 --> 1:09:08.680 I was a rock star at a young age. I 1:09:08.760 --> 1:09:09.280 did that shit. 1:09:09.920 --> 1:09:12.360 I probably went on three tours and just was a 1:09:12.400 --> 1:09:14.800 fucking horror. But yeah, I mean that's that was kind 1:09:14.800 --> 1:09:15.320 of the game back. 1:09:15.360 --> 1:09:18.599 But I've also been in love and had long stretches 1:09:18.640 --> 1:09:21.439 of not being a whole right, So I love life. 1:09:21.479 --> 1:09:21.599 Man. 1:09:21.640 --> 1:09:23.920 I enjoyed it, and I think I remember I was 1:09:24.040 --> 1:09:27.120 like hitting thirty and I was like, I just want 1:09:27.160 --> 1:09:29.920 to be a fun motherfucker for a while. 1:09:30.000 --> 1:09:32.479 I don't want to, man, you gotta settle down. You 1:09:32.479 --> 1:09:33.960 ain't you get thirty nine. I just kind of want 1:09:34.000 --> 1:09:36.120 to be fun for a little while. Over this is fun, 1:09:36.720 --> 1:09:37.519 So I just have fun. 1:09:37.760 --> 1:09:41.320 Which you have really three chapters of your career, but 1:09:42.080 --> 1:09:44.679 I would say like two definitive chapters. And it's really 1:09:45.640 --> 1:09:50.559 it's really like, you know, the eighties up until it's 1:09:50.640 --> 1:09:54.760 called it like oh one two or whatever. But then 1:09:54.800 --> 1:09:58.200 you have this other era where the hyphie movement comes in. 1:09:58.320 --> 1:10:02.880 You start working with different, different sounding production. You get 1:10:03.080 --> 1:10:05.560 you know, there she goes slide down the pole and 1:10:05.640 --> 1:10:06.680 gangsters and strippers and. 1:10:06.680 --> 1:10:09.719 I'm the log I'm forty years old, yeah, forty something. 1:10:09.760 --> 1:10:12.880 And all these records that like don't sound like old, 1:10:12.960 --> 1:10:16.920 too short, but there they make you like they like 1:10:17.000 --> 1:10:19.880 you said it earlier, like blow the Whistle gave you 1:10:20.240 --> 1:10:24.639 career relevance forever, but like it. You have this whole 1:10:25.120 --> 1:10:29.280 library of songs from the last twenty years that don't 1:10:29.320 --> 1:10:30.720 sound anything like getting It. 1:10:30.920 --> 1:10:33.760 Don't you know that song don't act like a bitch? Yeah? 1:10:34.360 --> 1:10:36.920 I gave that song to E forty. That song came 1:10:36.960 --> 1:10:40.280 from the Trunk Boys. The Trunk Boys had the song, 1:10:40.400 --> 1:10:41.760 same hook, everything. 1:10:41.920 --> 1:10:43.920 And the shit fifty seven got on right. Yeah. 1:10:44.439 --> 1:10:47.000 The Trunk Boys is local group from the Bay and 1:10:47.120 --> 1:10:49.240 they wanted to get me on a verse for a remix. 1:10:50.120 --> 1:10:54.040 So the producer who made the song was like, when 1:10:54.080 --> 1:10:56.800 we first made it, it was made for too short 1:10:56.840 --> 1:11:00.400 to get on it. So I did the remix with them, 1:11:01.200 --> 1:11:03.760 and some time went by, everybout a year or so, 1:11:04.640 --> 1:11:08.160 and I just kept really feeling like that song was something, 1:11:08.800 --> 1:11:11.640 and I got E forty to get on it, and 1:11:11.800 --> 1:11:13.840 Forty was like, I want to put this on my album. 1:11:14.720 --> 1:11:15.760 So I called the Trunk Boys. 1:11:15.840 --> 1:11:19.160 I'm like, hey, forty wants to put a version out 1:11:19.200 --> 1:11:22.120 with just me and him, but because it's your song, 1:11:22.960 --> 1:11:25.600 both of us are going to give you guys a 1:11:25.680 --> 1:11:30.320 free verse on whatever you want. And there was a 1:11:30.360 --> 1:11:32.560 lot of little little drama with the song, but we 1:11:32.680 --> 1:11:35.880 did it. It comes out it instantly, it hit now, 1:11:35.920 --> 1:11:38.240 mind you, this was this was a song from there 1:11:39.439 --> 1:11:42.320 mixtape two years before we dropped it. 1:11:42.360 --> 1:11:44.200 And then fifty gets on it. They probably feel even 1:11:44.240 --> 1:11:46.360 more like, what the fuck fifties, even though we both 1:11:46.400 --> 1:11:49.360 gave them verses? They had nine members in the group, 1:11:49.640 --> 1:11:52.080 probably like it's a real barrier wang right there. 1:11:52.160 --> 1:11:55.120 Yeah, like five was cool and four was like, fuck that, 1:11:55.240 --> 1:11:57.920 that's our song, you know what. The forty brought them 1:11:57.920 --> 1:12:01.040 out on stage. We did a lot of I really 1:12:01.240 --> 1:12:06.439 appreciate that the young homies, you know, let me do that. 1:12:06.840 --> 1:12:09.599 But they had mixed emotions about it, and I understand 1:12:09.640 --> 1:12:12.160 the whole way. But that is a big record for 1:12:12.240 --> 1:12:12.719 E forty. 1:12:12.880 --> 1:12:16.360 Yeah, and I just literally go, here's a song, and 1:12:16.479 --> 1:12:18.240 that's how we get down. Though. What is like your 1:12:18.280 --> 1:12:18.800 favorite era? 1:12:18.920 --> 1:12:20.639 Though? But if you had to say the two when 1:12:20.640 --> 1:12:23.680 if you divide your career kind of in half, I mean, 1:12:23.800 --> 1:12:25.679 you're kind of doing it with this new series a bit. 1:12:26.400 --> 1:12:31.400 Okay, so early on we're just like kids, you know, 1:12:31.840 --> 1:12:35.400 twenty twenty one. I even had an early career too, 1:12:35.479 --> 1:12:37.639 Like I was pretty fucking famous in the Bay before 1:12:37.840 --> 1:12:41.080 I coore jump out, and I was doing shows and 1:12:41.280 --> 1:12:45.639 having a ball and living the rap life. But when 1:12:45.680 --> 1:12:47.479 I go on tour, I was on the straight out 1:12:47.479 --> 1:12:50.240 of the Compton tour with NWA. Easy hit me up, 1:12:50.280 --> 1:12:51.240 you want to go, I'm going on tour. 1:12:51.280 --> 1:12:52.479 You want to go? Hell yeah, I want to go. 1:12:53.000 --> 1:12:56.400 So I go on tour with them, and DC's on 1:12:56.520 --> 1:12:59.400 tour above the Laws on the tour. JJ FADDs on 1:12:59.479 --> 1:13:04.200 the tour and I'm a fucking instant rock star. 1:13:04.479 --> 1:13:05.799 Is that the tour hosted? 1:13:06.160 --> 1:13:09.679 Yeah, he's the comedian coming out in between all the acts. 1:13:09.960 --> 1:13:14.840 Nineteen eighty nine and I'm a fucking rock star day 1:13:14.920 --> 1:13:18.800 and night, every day. Even when the tour ends, you know, 1:13:19.000 --> 1:13:20.960 I'm still doing my two shirt show. I'm a fucking 1:13:21.040 --> 1:13:21.400 rock star. 1:13:21.840 --> 1:13:25.599 Next year, ice Cube is no longer in n WA. 1:13:25.960 --> 1:13:27.800 He drops then album. He wants to go on tour. 1:13:28.120 --> 1:13:30.479 Me and him became really good friends on the Struggle 1:13:30.600 --> 1:13:33.200 after tour, so we go out co headline of tour, 1:13:34.000 --> 1:13:34.920 fucking rock star. 1:13:35.680 --> 1:13:40.400 I The next year, Spice. 1:13:40.120 --> 1:13:43.120 One gets hot. Spice One, man, you know, I'm on 1:13:43.320 --> 1:13:45.920 like third platinum Altum, Like, let's go out. 1:13:46.000 --> 1:13:46.920 Me and Spice One go. 1:13:47.000 --> 1:13:50.320 Out fucking rock star also on drive right, Yeah, yeah, 1:13:51.000 --> 1:13:53.360 because of me by way of you know, this is 1:13:53.439 --> 1:13:54.200 just the affiliation. 1:13:54.760 --> 1:14:01.080 But that was a lot of fun, fucking fun. They're 1:14:01.120 --> 1:14:05.280 talking about like five years of just fuck it man, 1:14:05.439 --> 1:14:07.960 also having fun without having to worry about the social media. 1:14:08.960 --> 1:14:11.560 Yeah at a page, I've called you back if I 1:14:11.680 --> 1:14:17.519 feel like you know. And I think that stands out, 1:14:17.800 --> 1:14:21.720 just that run of just being young, not having it 1:14:22.040 --> 1:14:24.799 and not knowing better almoment, not having to call nobody. 1:14:25.520 --> 1:14:27.120 You know, I didn't have a girlfriend. I was just 1:14:27.240 --> 1:14:31.360 like floating and that was a fun run. 1:14:31.479 --> 1:14:38.320 But then later on, I'm well established, I know how 1:14:38.360 --> 1:14:40.360 to move around. I got the right people around me. 1:14:40.439 --> 1:14:43.160 I always had good people around me. But I'm seasoned, 1:14:43.760 --> 1:14:44.200 and now I. 1:14:44.240 --> 1:14:46.599 Get this run with blow the whistle and shake that monkey. 1:14:47.040 --> 1:14:47.960 I literally. 1:14:49.400 --> 1:14:54.080 Started doing a hustle or I was like, if it's 1:14:54.240 --> 1:14:58.040 Monday through Thursday, you can give me five six seven grand, 1:14:58.160 --> 1:14:58.680 I'll come to. 1:14:58.720 --> 1:15:01.800 Your club and rap, blow the whistle and shake that 1:15:01.880 --> 1:15:02.840 monkey and leave. 1:15:03.720 --> 1:15:05.559 And I would do two three clubs in the night, 1:15:05.720 --> 1:15:07.960 like I would. I would make a lot of money 1:15:08.000 --> 1:15:09.400 on the weekends, but I would make a lot of 1:15:09.439 --> 1:15:11.720 money during the week just walking in the clubs and 1:15:11.760 --> 1:15:14.479 we're having fun, like set me up at a table bottles, 1:15:14.520 --> 1:15:16.840 and it just looked like I'm out there just balling 1:15:16.880 --> 1:15:17.519 everywhere I get on. 1:15:17.520 --> 1:15:18.360 The mic, rock and shit. 1:15:18.479 --> 1:15:21.000 So I did that ship for probably fucking ten years, 1:15:21.880 --> 1:15:25.320 and that got me through the recession. The recession hit 1:15:25.439 --> 1:15:29.160 I'm partying and shit ain't really like on my a 1:15:29.400 --> 1:15:33.200 game on, like you know, my multiple hustles clicking. Shit 1:15:33.479 --> 1:15:35.360 caught it caught the motherfucker off guard. I'm talking like 1:15:35.600 --> 1:15:39.519 eight oh no concert, shit slowed down, motherfucker start penny pinsion. 1:15:39.600 --> 1:15:42.719 But these two songs allowed me to go make fucking 1:15:42.840 --> 1:15:45.880 twenty grand a week, you know, fucking around if I go, 1:15:46.240 --> 1:15:46.920 you know, or. 1:15:46.960 --> 1:15:49.720 More just doing walk through. They called them to walk through, 1:15:50.200 --> 1:15:51.439 like the cheap ass promoter. 1:15:51.680 --> 1:15:54.240 Sure that didn't really want to you know, you want 1:15:54.280 --> 1:15:56.000 to put out the flyer too short live, but I'm 1:15:56.040 --> 1:15:57.960 really only going to sing two songs and they call 1:15:58.000 --> 1:15:58.519 it to walk through. 1:15:58.560 --> 1:16:00.400 The walk through was cool. I don't really do them 1:16:00.400 --> 1:16:04.400 shits no more, but that was a fun erra though, 1:16:04.760 --> 1:16:06.799 I like not really I was doing. 1:16:06.680 --> 1:16:11.960 Shows, the real show, but this this little floating around 1:16:12.240 --> 1:16:15.400 the West coast or wherever popping up. I'm gonna go 1:16:15.400 --> 1:16:20.519 to Scottsdale as a forty something, you're a rapper, and 1:16:20.600 --> 1:16:24.000 shit was fun and it's like I'm every time I'm 1:16:24.080 --> 1:16:28.679 doing this to this very day. The census is you're 1:16:28.800 --> 1:16:32.200 supposed to be expired. Bro, Like, you're not supposed to 1:16:32.760 --> 1:16:37.040 be in Seattle last night rocking twenty thousand people like, 1:16:37.200 --> 1:16:38.120 what the fuck are you doing? 1:16:38.200 --> 1:16:40.040 I'm like, can't stop me. 1:16:40.160 --> 1:16:44.559 So you guys dropped Mount Wesmore, which you guys did 1:16:44.600 --> 1:16:46.200 a dope run on the road with that. 1:16:47.880 --> 1:16:48.800 I think it. 1:16:49.320 --> 1:16:51.280 I would would you say that a lot like the 1:16:51.439 --> 1:16:53.880 fans might have been a little little disappointed with the album. 1:16:55.200 --> 1:17:02.760 I think that people don't know for bosses, four egos, 1:17:03.400 --> 1:17:07.400 for different sound, four busy schedules, it was a very 1:17:07.479 --> 1:17:11.360 small window of everybody on the same page. 1:17:11.960 --> 1:17:17.920 And literally what I think happened was we did a 1:17:18.000 --> 1:17:21.080 lot of shit, a lot of songs, a lot of 1:17:23.680 --> 1:17:27.040 putting together the project, and then it started getting a 1:17:27.120 --> 1:17:31.920 little too close to the Snoop Dogg super Bowl. 1:17:31.800 --> 1:17:36.200 Appearance and stoops on his crypto wave try to do 1:17:36.280 --> 1:17:41.439 the NFT. He just shit started happening, And I think 1:17:41.600 --> 1:17:49.760 that the schedules, the schedules started clashing to where it 1:17:49.800 --> 1:17:51.720 would have been a tour, it would have been all 1:17:51.760 --> 1:17:54.439 this other ship, and time just ran out where that 1:17:54.560 --> 1:17:57.400 window of everybody on the same page, it just kind 1:17:57.439 --> 1:17:57.920 of ran out. 1:17:58.240 --> 1:18:00.680 That's that's my personal opinion. I'm sure you will get 1:18:00.680 --> 1:18:03.040 four different answers if all four of us. 1:18:03.400 --> 1:18:05.000 I think I talked to Cube about it. He caun't 1:18:05.000 --> 1:18:06.679 pretty much share the same sentiment. 1:18:06.800 --> 1:18:07.240 But we have. 1:18:08.720 --> 1:18:11.479 Another album and a half worth of music that sounds 1:18:11.640 --> 1:18:16.120 really fucking good, and everybody's I send a little sarcastic 1:18:16.200 --> 1:18:18.400 text messages in the group text every now and then 1:18:18.640 --> 1:18:22.400 because I'm like, I'm like, I know, you guys are 1:18:22.439 --> 1:18:25.920 all rich and busy and shit, but we got this 1:18:26.040 --> 1:18:28.920 dope ass album laying around, Like, let's come up with 1:18:29.000 --> 1:18:32.320 a scheme, any kind of scheme. You don't have to 1:18:32.360 --> 1:18:34.240 put the album out. We could just start putting singles out. 1:18:34.400 --> 1:18:37.040 Let's just do what the fuck this goodass music laying around. 1:18:37.479 --> 1:18:41.400 And I always started off like, I'm like, you guys 1:18:41.439 --> 1:18:43.080 are just too fucking rich to Yeah. 1:18:42.960 --> 1:18:45.880 Cube just got his ship out right, Yeah, God the 1:18:45.960 --> 1:18:47.960 Missionary came out, so maybe you know, but it's like 1:18:48.000 --> 1:18:49.600 you said, everybody's too fucking rich, to. 1:18:49.880 --> 1:18:53.599 Busy too they give a fuck. So I think. 1:18:55.320 --> 1:18:57.960 I think that at some point the fans are gonna 1:18:58.000 --> 1:19:00.320 hear it. I think that the album that came out 1:19:00.840 --> 1:19:04.759 would have been worked if it came out a little sooner. 1:19:05.040 --> 1:19:06.960 Yeah, and then you guys also did like an NFT 1:19:07.160 --> 1:19:09.160 release on it first, which is kind of weird. 1:19:09.320 --> 1:19:12.280 But then you gotta flip to the positive side because 1:19:12.320 --> 1:19:15.679 I did an album with Snoop Dogg E forty and Ice. 1:19:15.760 --> 1:19:16.680 Can you did a tour? 1:19:16.880 --> 1:19:21.720 And I promise you, I would promise you that Mount 1:19:21.800 --> 1:19:23.439 Westmore made millions of dollars. 1:19:25.040 --> 1:19:28.320 No matter where you think of landed. They they they 1:19:28.439 --> 1:19:31.960 have so many deals intact that it was. 1:19:32.160 --> 1:19:34.400 It was a very good It was very good for everybody. 1:19:34.720 --> 1:19:37.360 It was great, and it would have been we actually, 1:19:38.760 --> 1:19:40.400 and I've never been involved with anything like this in 1:19:40.479 --> 1:19:43.920 my life. We turned down like fucking like a twenty 1:19:43.960 --> 1:19:45.920 million dollar tour or some shit that was only probably 1:19:46.040 --> 1:19:49.719 like fucking it was only it wasn't twenty shows. 1:19:49.760 --> 1:19:53.000 It was you were You were probably like about, who 1:19:53.080 --> 1:19:55.400 the fuck does this are we voting on this? Because 1:19:55.400 --> 1:19:55.680 if so? 1:19:56.800 --> 1:19:59.280 So, yeah, it's that kind of And I know I'm 1:19:59.320 --> 1:20:04.080 like I'm in is super group, and I'm like, it's 1:20:04.160 --> 1:20:07.759 not the kind of situation where you try to boss 1:20:07.880 --> 1:20:09.880 up because everybody's a fucking boss. 1:20:10.720 --> 1:20:13.559 So it's like, we just got to work together, find 1:20:13.600 --> 1:20:18.200 the compromise. Find I took the role in the group. 1:20:18.320 --> 1:20:23.439 I'm like, I will go through all kind of links 1:20:23.600 --> 1:20:28.439 of making sure the music is organized and all the 1:20:28.560 --> 1:20:31.000 files are in the right place, and all the songs 1:20:31.040 --> 1:20:34.280 get ready for whoever's gonna mix them in. Every everybody's 1:20:34.400 --> 1:20:36.799 verse gets turned in and put in the same session 1:20:37.200 --> 1:20:40.200 and all this shit. But I'm not gonna fucking come 1:20:40.280 --> 1:20:42.760 up with the marketing plan. I'm not telling you motherfuckers 1:20:42.800 --> 1:20:45.280 when the tour. I'm not picking the merch company. I 1:20:45.280 --> 1:20:47.080 ain't doing none of that shit because all you boss 1:20:47.200 --> 1:20:48.519 motherfuckers know everything. 1:20:48.800 --> 1:20:51.080 I'm like, y'all know everything. Just just my job is 1:20:51.120 --> 1:20:53.160 the music, So let me organize everything. Yeah, so that's 1:20:53.200 --> 1:20:56.479 what I did, get the sessions together. All that forty 1:20:56.600 --> 1:20:58.960 was our number one beat picker. It sounds like it. 1:20:59.080 --> 1:21:01.000 He calls this of a beat picker. 1:21:02.320 --> 1:21:05.000 That actually makes a lot of sense hearing it. Yeah, 1:21:06.840 --> 1:21:09.120 you know the thing you're talking about Oakland. A little 1:21:09.120 --> 1:21:14.559 bit earlier, you know, obviously the Bays crazy place right now, 1:21:14.840 --> 1:21:17.320 the Bipping is out of control. You know, it's a 1:21:17.360 --> 1:21:21.960 pretty wild place. You recently lost your brother earlier this year. 1:21:22.680 --> 1:21:25.639 I currently imagine you're still mourning that loss. 1:21:28.040 --> 1:21:29.800 How you feeling man like? I mean that that was 1:21:29.880 --> 1:21:34.200 in January, you know where, Yeah, when you. 1:21:36.360 --> 1:21:38.720 Lived the life that we lived, Me, my brothers, some 1:21:38.840 --> 1:21:43.800 of the homies. You know, we we've survived a lot 1:21:43.880 --> 1:21:46.560 of shit. And not not like I was wilding in 1:21:46.640 --> 1:21:49.360 the streets selling dope and drugs, but I've been in 1:21:49.439 --> 1:21:52.960 the streets a lot of my life. And when you 1:21:53.400 --> 1:21:57.400 in that environment, that chance is always there. I've been around. 1:21:57.920 --> 1:21:59.800 Dozens of shootings. 1:22:01.080 --> 1:22:03.000 I caldn't even count how many times I've been around 1:22:03.000 --> 1:22:05.760 when somebody started shooting very close to where we're at. 1:22:06.479 --> 1:22:10.200 I've been in situations where close friends of mine were 1:22:11.320 --> 1:22:13.080 sworn that they were going to murder each other and 1:22:13.160 --> 1:22:15.320 we were all good friends, and they're like, kill that 1:22:15.400 --> 1:22:18.120 motherfucker when I see him. And I've been around, you 1:22:18.200 --> 1:22:22.800 know a lot of situations where we had to bury 1:22:22.880 --> 1:22:25.719 the homies. You know, we grew up and we started 1:22:25.760 --> 1:22:32.160 burying the homies kids through violence. And you just think 1:22:32.320 --> 1:22:37.280 that My brother was about to be sixty two, and 1:22:37.400 --> 1:22:40.160 you just think that you made it past that shit. 1:22:40.640 --> 1:22:42.240 You know, I try to stay out the way. A 1:22:42.280 --> 1:22:44.519 lot of og say I try to stay out the way, 1:22:45.240 --> 1:22:47.120 but how far out the way is out the way? 1:22:47.120 --> 1:22:50.560 Because what happened to him came to find him. He 1:22:50.760 --> 1:22:53.599 wasn't out in no bullshit. It came to where he's 1:22:53.600 --> 1:22:57.200 always at. He didn't move around a lot, and you know, 1:22:57.280 --> 1:23:00.599 he was just defending the spot where he was at. 1:23:01.040 --> 1:23:04.240 So you know, I know how it all went down. 1:23:05.000 --> 1:23:06.040 It's some township. 1:23:06.920 --> 1:23:07.160 It was. 1:23:08.360 --> 1:23:10.599 It was some ship that you know. It's just it's 1:23:10.680 --> 1:23:12.559 the town bro like it's and. 1:23:14.280 --> 1:23:15.920 Uh, you just gotta deal with it. You gotta deal 1:23:15.960 --> 1:23:18.080 with it, and however the way, however which way you 1:23:18.160 --> 1:23:18.800 want to deal with it. 1:23:19.400 --> 1:23:19.920 I think. 1:23:22.640 --> 1:23:27.360 I have received so many blessings from Oakland, California, that 1:23:28.360 --> 1:23:29.520 I can't blame. 1:23:29.360 --> 1:23:32.360 The city for what happened. It's not it's not Oakland's fault. 1:23:33.600 --> 1:23:39.240 The environment whatever created the problem that caused that. But 1:23:39.479 --> 1:23:41.720 I don't blame Oakland, not the Oakland that I love. 1:23:42.360 --> 1:23:45.840 And somebody worded it to me in a way that 1:23:47.120 --> 1:23:50.519 that sticks with me. And they just said to me 1:23:50.640 --> 1:23:56.000 they said, this town we love can really be mean sometimes, 1:23:56.360 --> 1:23:58.639 and it really can, and it can really be fun 1:23:58.720 --> 1:24:04.599 and really educational, and you know, it's revolutionary, and there's 1:24:04.600 --> 1:24:07.719 a lot of shit. So I just think that sixty 1:24:07.800 --> 1:24:11.920 one years gun down, that's that's an anomaly. It's not 1:24:12.200 --> 1:24:14.280 not a real normal thing. So you know, it's just 1:24:14.320 --> 1:24:18.560 some shit that happened. And you know, my brother was 1:24:18.640 --> 1:24:21.640 the kind of person who I talked. I talked to 1:24:21.680 --> 1:24:25.080 a lot of people about this shit. Like somebody rammed 1:24:25.080 --> 1:24:27.960 a car into the garage door, and he went out 1:24:28.000 --> 1:24:31.920 there pistol in hand to go see what happened, and 1:24:32.080 --> 1:24:34.920 he as they were shooting at him, he was shooting 1:24:34.920 --> 1:24:35.240 at them. 1:24:36.640 --> 1:24:39.599 Most of us would have the same gun that he had. 1:24:40.800 --> 1:24:44.559 Somebody would ram that garage door, and we might probably 1:24:44.760 --> 1:24:48.040 probably try to be sort of strategic and like, well, 1:24:48.080 --> 1:24:50.559 if this motherfucker comes in, I'm gonna be behind here. 1:24:50.680 --> 1:24:53.799 And you know, but my brother he runs out shooting. 1:24:53.840 --> 1:24:56.400 That's that's that was him. And we all, all of 1:24:56.520 --> 1:24:58.519 us that know and love him, was like, what else was. 1:24:58.520 --> 1:24:59.479 He gonna do? That's him? 1:25:00.280 --> 1:25:02.040 You know I could have told him a million times, Bro, 1:25:02.600 --> 1:25:06.320 you got all these angles in the building, probably when 1:25:06.320 --> 1:25:07.000 they come in the door. 1:25:07.800 --> 1:25:11.320 But he ain't think like that, So you know, I 1:25:11.360 --> 1:25:14.479 don't I don't mourn him in a way that this 1:25:14.720 --> 1:25:16.960 was a sad thing that happened. It was some township. 1:25:17.760 --> 1:25:20.920 It could have happened that anybody, you know, And it's 1:25:20.960 --> 1:25:25.519 just like I just I just I wrestled with the 1:25:25.600 --> 1:25:27.760 part about the age. I'm like Dad, we made it 1:25:27.880 --> 1:25:28.200 past it. 1:25:28.360 --> 1:25:31.400 We talked so much about all the homies, about surviving, 1:25:31.760 --> 1:25:34.800 about doing it right, about not doing stupid shit, and 1:25:34.920 --> 1:25:38.040 then this happened. So you know, I got a lot 1:25:38.080 --> 1:25:40.519 of a lot of love. I don't know how you 1:25:40.520 --> 1:25:44.120 would feel about it, but a lot of people reached 1:25:44.160 --> 1:25:48.000 out just to you know, just to acknowledge what happened, 1:25:48.040 --> 1:25:49.920 and a lot of people that knew him, and a 1:25:49.960 --> 1:25:53.760 lot of people that knew me, and you know, shit, 1:25:54.000 --> 1:25:56.200 it was very impactful. 1:25:57.120 --> 1:25:58.720 In the industry, Like it just yeah, a lot of 1:25:58.720 --> 1:26:01.679 people to your brother, because remember talking a few folks 1:26:01.720 --> 1:26:04.320 from the Bay and not you know, he had a 1:26:04.439 --> 1:26:06.400 lot of friends that were my friends. He had a 1:26:06.479 --> 1:26:08.880 lot of high regard people that he knew that I 1:26:08.920 --> 1:26:09.640 didn't even know. 1:26:10.040 --> 1:26:12.840 So I'm just getting shipped from everywhere. He also lived 1:26:12.840 --> 1:26:14.160 in Atlanta with me, So we had a lot of 1:26:14.200 --> 1:26:17.800 friends out there. Uh, you know, then my whole life, 1:26:18.200 --> 1:26:19.800 a lot of people in LA family. 1:26:20.000 --> 1:26:21.960 Right, so yeah, you know L R. P. Wayne Lowe 1:26:22.479 --> 1:26:24.960 for sure. All right, So this album is coming out 1:26:25.600 --> 1:26:31.160 next Friday, the first of four three three part serious three. Okay, 1:26:31.200 --> 1:26:31.519 that's well. 1:26:31.600 --> 1:26:32.840 You know why I said that, because you told me 1:26:32.920 --> 1:26:34.680 you were doing the double album Little John, or you 1:26:35.200 --> 1:26:35.759 did two albums. 1:26:35.760 --> 1:26:39.559 Well, the Little John will come out and there will 1:26:39.640 --> 1:26:41.920 be sorry, a bunch of reserve songs. 1:26:42.000 --> 1:26:42.200 Yeah. 1:26:42.200 --> 1:26:44.520 In my head, I'm putting the Little. 1:26:44.320 --> 1:26:48.240 John extra songs in the same folder as the unreleased 1:26:48.280 --> 1:26:50.360 Mount Wes Moore song. Got it And I just listened 1:26:50.400 --> 1:26:53.400 to him, love him, keep them to myself, playing with people, 1:26:53.520 --> 1:26:54.040 riding in my car. 1:26:54.120 --> 1:26:57.040 They like, put this ship out. I hear that so much. 1:26:57.960 --> 1:26:58.960 You don't put this ship out. 1:27:00.360 --> 1:27:02.080 Listen, man, you were one of the greatest rappers of 1:27:02.120 --> 1:27:05.560 all time. I appreciate you sitting down and uh, I 1:27:05.640 --> 1:27:07.799 can't wait to hear the new ship because yeah. 1:27:08.600 --> 1:27:14.639 We're stretching the the age limit. We're swimming, floating off 1:27:14.720 --> 1:27:17.040 into the uncharted waters of hip hop. 1:27:17.600 --> 1:27:20.559 How far can this go? How far can you extend? 1:27:20.600 --> 1:27:22.760 How long can you extend it? Do you do you 1:27:22.840 --> 1:27:24.880 still keep in contact with Hove at all? Or is 1:27:24.960 --> 1:27:26.760 that somebody who like because he seems like such an 1:27:26.840 --> 1:27:30.559 unreachable Well, we never were telephone buddies. Okay, so you guys, 1:27:30.640 --> 1:27:32.679 you guys, just it was just a work relationship. Yeah, 1:27:33.280 --> 1:27:36.160 you get to the sixty second was a yeah, what's up, hey, 1:27:36.760 --> 1:27:38.120 I got something for you. I'm gonna say it your way. 1:27:38.200 --> 1:27:41.320 It's always a you know, a you know, a salute 1:27:41.320 --> 1:27:43.320 when you see him. A lot a lot of us 1:27:43.360 --> 1:27:44.000 are like that. Man. 1:27:44.040 --> 1:27:46.880 It's you know, we don't choose the prior into each 1:27:46.920 --> 1:27:49.679 other's personal lives, but when I see you, what's up, hommy? 1:27:50.120 --> 1:27:50.320 Yeah? 1:27:51.600 --> 1:27:53.760 Well look listening to the album on the eighteenth pre 1:27:53.920 --> 1:27:58.880 order it new single coming this week, still macking, still macking, man. 1:27:59.760 --> 1:28:01.920 I'm happy to hear aunt bass on. 1:28:02.200 --> 1:28:06.519 I brought the Cadillac back to I re whipped the Cadillac. 1:28:06.600 --> 1:28:10.560 I called the homies in Alabama, spokes and vogues, and 1:28:10.640 --> 1:28:13.000 they built me a white on white on white Cadillac. 1:28:13.080 --> 1:28:15.680 First I had the black so like similar to the 1:28:15.720 --> 1:28:18.160 Born to Mac car. Yeah, same car, oh, same car, 1:28:18.560 --> 1:28:21.960 same car, not the exact same same model, same year 1:28:22.000 --> 1:28:22.240 or whatever. 1:28:22.360 --> 1:28:24.960 Yeah, then I took that one, made it three times burgundy, 1:28:25.040 --> 1:28:25.920 and now we're all white. 1:28:26.160 --> 1:28:28.599 I love triple white. There it is, man short, dog 1:28:28.680 --> 1:28:31.080 too short. I appreciate you, bro, for sure. There it 1:28:31.200 --> 1:28:31.240 is