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Speaker 1: Everybody is today we preview the Cowboys offense versus the
Speaker 1: Los Angeles Chargers defense on Monday Night Football. We've got
Speaker 1: Isaiah Standback, John Machoda, Nick Harris, Chris be in the back.
Speaker 1: Our entire crew is here today. I'm Kyle you almost gentlemen.
Speaker 4: How we doing doing well? Doing well?
Speaker 2: Yeah? How are you doing? Kyle doing good? Yeah? Are
Speaker 2: you feeling? You're feeling nice and swollen? I'm sore? Are
Speaker 2: your sore? So sore? Swoll sore?
Speaker 1: Source pulled an Isaiah stand back yesterday. I put two
Speaker 1: workouts on the board. I'm trying to trying to get rice,
Speaker 1: trying to get right.
Speaker 4: You do like three?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 4: You haven't done two in a long time.
Speaker 2: I haven't worked out.
Speaker 5: I haven't worked out at all in like a week
Speaker 5: and a half.
Speaker 2: Oh no, pretty bad really, And then squat sober.
Speaker 5: I tweaked back my back.
Speaker 2: It sounds. Oh yeah, it's a real thing.
Speaker 6: I had had a chill out on a squat sobra
Speaker 6: that and my pants didn't fit.
Speaker 5: In one of my pants I put on for a suit.
Speaker 5: My legs grew too quick. So I was like, yeah,
Speaker 5: squat Sobra is over for me, said the pant did
Speaker 5: what the pants?
Speaker 2: My legs grew. My body changes like fast.
Speaker 1: So so instead of wearing a medium, you need to
Speaker 1: get into a large.
Speaker 2: All my dress closer. They are.
Speaker 6: They are large, tailored fit for a regular size. Isaiah,
Speaker 6: not squat tober Isaiah.
Speaker 2: That's John's has the same problem.
Speaker 7: Yeah, all the time, I'm always squatting heavyweights. I'm going
Speaker 7: to change my pants size. That's yeah, that's one of
Speaker 7: the biggest issues I haven't liked. I'm working through it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you gotta get through it.
Speaker 4: How about this Rangers Astros lcs. Oh gosh, I'm not ready,
Speaker 4: but I am.
Speaker 2: I am.
Speaker 1: This is gonna be super fun and also either heartbreaking
Speaker 1: or the best thing ever.
Speaker 4: It's gonna be the best thing ever.
Speaker 2: I can't wait. It's gonna be great.
Speaker 8: It's all you Astros fans out there. I hate you
Speaker 8: for the next like a week and a half. That's
Speaker 8: all of them. There's lots of them.
Speaker 4: I'm a real hater.
Speaker 1: I just hold the Rangers do their job. Rangers fans
Speaker 1: do their job in terms of getting.
Speaker 2: To the ballpark for games three four? Is it three
Speaker 2: four and five three or three three two?
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's three. They flip it four and six, I
Speaker 4: believe three four and six.
Speaker 2: Three four and six because they switched it to two
Speaker 2: two one one one, I believe. Yeah. But the uh yeah,
Speaker 2: because going to that series.
Speaker 1: I went to a couple games between Rangers Astros this year,
Speaker 1: and going to that series in the regular season, it
Speaker 1: was it was still majority Rangers crowd at home, but
Speaker 1: it was probably sixty forty. I mean, there were a
Speaker 1: lot of Astros fans there, and you can't let that
Speaker 1: happen in a postseason atmosphere.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's gonna be fun. Can't wait for that.
Speaker 1: Congrats to the Astros, but not really At the same time,
Speaker 1: go Rangers all the way through and through, and we'll
Speaker 1: talk more baseball on more talking baseball after this, let's
Speaker 1: do some news and notes because the Cowboys had some
Speaker 1: news yesterday. Again, it was another off day with it
Speaker 1: being a Monday night football game, but there was some
Speaker 1: roster building going on.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 8: Absolutely, We'll start with jay Ron Curse though he was
Speaker 8: he was the player conference call on Wednesday. Kind of
Speaker 8: a different schedule this week with it being a Monday
Speaker 8: night game, so they don't hit the practice field until today,
Speaker 8: so we'll probably have more tomorrow coming out of that.
Speaker 8: But jay Ron Curse, he was on a conference call. Yes,
Speaker 8: I got to talk on a lot of things. First
Speaker 8: thing we'll start on is what he thinks Kellen Moore
Speaker 8: will want to do against the Cowboys, And here's what
Speaker 8: he said, kind of a lengthy quote here. I'm pretty
Speaker 8: sure he wants to go out there and put it
Speaker 8: on us, but you've got to put on some perspective
Speaker 8: for what we just went through on Sunday and how
Speaker 8: we're chomping at the bit to get out there and
Speaker 8: get out on the next game on the road, so
Speaker 8: we can get out there and kind of just get
Speaker 8: this taste out of our mouths. So I think it's
Speaker 8: less about Kellen Moore here and more about just wanting
Speaker 8: to bounce back.
Speaker 2: How easy is it.
Speaker 1: To bounce back after a performance like you had on
Speaker 1: Sunday night? Is it easier or is it Is it
Speaker 1: easy to be motivated.
Speaker 2: By that or is it tougher to get motivated after
Speaker 2: something like that?
Speaker 6: I mean, it really depends on your locker room, kle
Speaker 6: So I really can't speak to what this Cowboys locker
Speaker 6: room is like. I do know their history shows that
Speaker 6: they bounce back well after losses.
Speaker 5: It was a nine to one and.
Speaker 2: Two since the start of the twenty twenty one season.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, So, I mean they bounced back really well historically.
Speaker 6: But I mean, this is another opponent, you know, there's
Speaker 6: another opponent. I mean, you can carry over all the
Speaker 6: emotions and the frustrations and want to get the taste
Speaker 6: out of my mouth. At the end of the day,
Speaker 6: it's a whole new game plan. It's an entirely new
Speaker 6: game plan, entirely different threat. So you're dealing with the
Speaker 6: officer coordinator who's very familiar with you and your personnel.
Speaker 6: You haven't changed much person Actually, there isn't really any
Speaker 6: new personnel in terms from from the starting perspective.
Speaker 5: From when he was here last year.
Speaker 6: So he knows everybody that's on the field, he knows
Speaker 6: the defensive coordinator, He's very familiar with everything.
Speaker 5: He knows tendency.
Speaker 2: So it's a.
Speaker 6: Challenge, just a completely different challenge from that regard. And
Speaker 6: these guys have some relatively good personnel, so they're going
Speaker 6: to challenge you a completely different way than the forty
Speaker 6: nine ers did. Forty nine ers, you know, was condensed
Speaker 6: sets and everybody's close to the ball. You don't know
Speaker 6: if they're running or passing. There's a lot of crossing routes,
Speaker 6: a lot of motions, a lot of shifts. That's not
Speaker 6: this offense. This offense is going to challenge you down
Speaker 6: the field. So I hear you curse, and you know,
Speaker 6: but I hope that you raise yourself because you know,
Speaker 6: this is not what you faced last week, and it's
Speaker 6: not supposed to be.
Speaker 5: That's just that changes week the week. It's a completely
Speaker 5: different challenge.
Speaker 2: H What do you think about that?
Speaker 7: Well, like I said yesterday, I really think that just
Speaker 7: because Herbert is clearly the best quarterback they face that
Speaker 7: even if there wasn't the Kellen Moore storyline. This is
Speaker 7: going to be a tough matchup for them. He's going
Speaker 7: to challenge them, especially if you can't get a consistent
Speaker 7: pass rush on them. But I do want to give
Speaker 7: the Cowboys a little bit of benefit of the doubt
Speaker 7: just because they're coming off of such a poor performance.
Speaker 7: I mean, this will be a huge game just to
Speaker 7: see how they respond, because to have if they have
Speaker 7: two stinkers in a row and then you go into
Speaker 7: the bye week, that's that's terrible, not I mean for
Speaker 7: the expectations of this team. I mean, you can't have that,
Speaker 7: so I expect them to. I mean, there's a lot
Speaker 7: of swearwords on is but I try, I try, and
Speaker 7: I try and be as First of all, I don't
Speaker 7: want to get I don't want to get fined by somebody,
Speaker 7: So I'm trying to.
Speaker 9: Keep yeah, as.
Speaker 7: Shows, I don't want to have another show. So because
Speaker 7: of that.
Speaker 2: Poop moji, yeah.
Speaker 7: But I mean, ultimately though, my biggest thing is I
Speaker 7: just this comes down to the most interesting matchup to
Speaker 7: me is Mike McCarthy versus versus Kellen Moore. Like that's
Speaker 7: the thing that I will be most paying attention to
Speaker 7: just I just think both of them want to put
Speaker 7: up big numbers against the other. Whether they're going to
Speaker 7: say it publicly or not, there's no way that they're
Speaker 7: just like no, I mean, if we just win the game,
Speaker 7: you know, seventeen fourteen, I'll be fine with that. Whatever
Speaker 7: they want to show that, what their offense does.
Speaker 2: It wants to be.
Speaker 1: They want it to be forty to thirty nine Watermelon
Speaker 1: Kick twenty twenty.
Speaker 2: Like, if Cowboys can lose.
Speaker 6: Like you just lost, that would be the leading storyline. Yeah,
Speaker 6: without a doubt. For sure, it is still a storyline,
Speaker 6: but it's been overshadowed by.
Speaker 1: By two or three things for sure. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: bounce back is the number one storyline. I mean, how
Speaker 1: does this team bounce back? Because they either do or
Speaker 1: they don't. You're either four and two and you still
Speaker 1: feel okay about the rest of the season, or you're
Speaker 1: three and three and you've just lost two straight going
Speaker 1: into the bye week.
Speaker 9: And I think we'll know pretty early in the game.
Speaker 7: I really, I think you'll see the way, particularly the
Speaker 7: Cowboys playing defense, you'll kind of know setting the tone
Speaker 7: the way that this game is going to kind of go.
Speaker 8: I mean you could also say that, for like the
Speaker 8: last forty five games the Cowboys have played, you'll know
Speaker 8: in the first quarter how it's.
Speaker 2: Going to be good. Point. Yeah, one added thing.
Speaker 9: To probably a problem.
Speaker 4: It is most definitely.
Speaker 1: The one added point to this storyline. The Kellen Moore
Speaker 1: versus Mike McCarthy. How much do you think dan Quinn
Speaker 1: has on the table here, because of course dan Quinn
Speaker 1: and Kellen Moore were on the same staffs for two
Speaker 1: years here, but then the last time. I mean, it
Speaker 1: is new that the Cowboys are facing Kellen Moore, but
Speaker 1: dan Quinn has faced Kellen Moore when he was a
Speaker 1: head coach with the Falcons. And I just mentioned the
Speaker 1: forty to thirty nine or Watermelon kick game back in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty. Kellen Moore's offense put up forty points on
Speaker 1: dan Quinn's defense in twenty twenty with the Falcons. The
Speaker 1: only other team to put up forty or more points
Speaker 1: that season was the twenty twenty Tampa Bay Buccaneers, the
Speaker 1: eventual Super Bowl champions and the ones that were led
Speaker 1: by Tom Brady. So I mean, maybe there's a little
Speaker 1: bit of added actor there of dan Quinn saying ah,
Speaker 1: not only are you not on my staff anymore, but
Speaker 1: I remember what happened.
Speaker 2: Back in twenty twenty. Do you think that could be
Speaker 2: a factor too.
Speaker 4: I think it could be.
Speaker 8: But when you talk to Dan Quinn, he's so even
Speaker 8: centered and even keeled. He I don't think he puts
Speaker 8: that much historical context into things. I think he's focused
Speaker 8: on this group that they have right now. He was
Speaker 8: asked about Kellen Moore on Monday during the coordinator availability,
Speaker 8: and he's excited.
Speaker 4: For the matchup.
Speaker 8: He knows that there's a lot that Kellen probably knows,
Speaker 8: but he was like, there's also a lot that I know.
Speaker 4: So it could work both ways.
Speaker 7: And I mean, we really can completely throw out that
Speaker 7: storyline now the whole like this person on this team,
Speaker 7: this person on this team knowing what you're gonna do
Speaker 7: last two weeks, like literally will Greer, Ezekiel Elliott, Doors
Speaker 7: blown off? You know, Dan Quinn and the Cowboys know
Speaker 7: what the Niners are gonna do, Doors blown off, Trey
Speaker 7: having Trey Lance, you know, Like, I mean, let's stop
Speaker 7: with this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe we should just not have as a talking point.
Speaker 9: It's getting bad. Let's just have a close game.
Speaker 7: Maybe one close game that we'll circle back to doing
Speaker 7: that storyline again, maybe not just have complete and then
Speaker 7: in the league with the most parody in all of sports,
Speaker 7: the NFL, just two just absolute like one. That's probably
Speaker 7: I don't know what the stats are, but I think
Speaker 7: on the offensively for the Cowboys that game as the
Speaker 7: Niners like worse than the last fifteen years a week
Speaker 7: before the worst lost Bill Belichick's ever. I mean, these
Speaker 7: are huge sample sizes. So let's let's pump the brakes
Speaker 7: on whole like, yeah, so and so used to work
Speaker 7: in the mail room for them, and he knows the
Speaker 7: way that they like to go.
Speaker 9: No, let's not do that anymore. That's let's we're past that.
Speaker 1: Shout out to Jonathan and the mail right right, shout
Speaker 1: out to Jonathan ran a great boot.
Speaker 8: Camp yesterday to say that's the second time he gets
Speaker 8: shouted out today. Next news and note so with Layton
Speaker 8: Vandersh most likely heading to the IR the Cowboys they
Speaker 8: worked out a few linebackers yesterday, still not official, but
Speaker 8: expected to sign former first round pick where Sean Evans.
Speaker 8: If they do sign him, it'll be the sixteenth former
Speaker 8: first round pick on the roster, which is bananas, but yeah,
Speaker 8: looking at at linebacker depth depth, Evans played all seventeen
Speaker 8: games for the Falcons last season, had one hundred and
Speaker 8: fifty nine tackles. Super productive in my eyes, but it's
Speaker 8: not going to blow the doors off of, you know,
Speaker 8: an offense and be an absolute game wrecker in my opinion.
Speaker 8: But I think he's a very capable body to have
Speaker 8: in that second level.
Speaker 2: How is he different than Vander Rush.
Speaker 8: I think Vander Rush just has a little bit more instinct,
Speaker 8: especially coming downhill. I worry about Rashaun Evans a little
Speaker 8: bit as well in past coverage.
Speaker 4: I think that's where he's gonna struggle with most. But
Speaker 4: I think with the.
Speaker 8: Secondary that you have here in this past rush that
Speaker 8: can hopefully get home a little bit quicker than they
Speaker 8: did against San Francisco, then you maybe negate that concern.
Speaker 4: But yeah, I see him as just a body in
Speaker 4: that second level.
Speaker 7: I wonder who's the player in all of the NFL
Speaker 7: in the last five to ten years.
Speaker 2: Tops.
Speaker 7: We're not going back to the seventies where you grab
Speaker 7: somebody that was working at a hardware store, but I
Speaker 7: would like to know somebody that's not in an NFL
Speaker 7: roster after a few weeks into the season, like who's
Speaker 7: come in and made the biggest impact.
Speaker 9: There's got to be a player out there, you know.
Speaker 7: But I just there's not a lot of examples like
Speaker 7: that where you're just like, yeah, well then that worked
Speaker 7: with that team.
Speaker 9: And then remember they added that.
Speaker 7: Guy that was I mean, generally speaking, I don't think
Speaker 7: the expectations should be, Oh, this guy's gonna come in,
Speaker 7: He's gonna be Van der Ash and now all of
Speaker 7: a sudden they got another linebacker.
Speaker 4: I mean, there's gotta be like a running back in
Speaker 4: the last ten years.
Speaker 2: I know that was.
Speaker 8: That's That's like the first thing that comes to mind,
Speaker 8: maybe like a want when he first came onto the
Speaker 8: Browns from the Chiefs, wasn't like a mid season thing.
Speaker 2: The Super Bowl run he bring in.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they traded for a lot of guys.
Speaker 2: No, they got somebody off the couch. Did they started bawling?
Speaker 2: I remember his name, I can look it up.
Speaker 6: Yeah, super Bowl run he was. He was literally on
Speaker 6: the couch. I think they grabbed him off the couch.
Speaker 6: He came in as are like killing it and they
Speaker 6: went on a Super Bowl year.
Speaker 4: I remember they added a lot of pieces that year.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean even last year, just recent sample size,
Speaker 1: it wasn't a massive.
Speaker 4: Was it Odell running back? Running back?
Speaker 1: Uh, that's a good guess though recent sample size wasn't
Speaker 1: massive impacts. But Jason Peters started some games for you
Speaker 1: last year, and he came in and kind of did
Speaker 1: his thing and at least held his own for a
Speaker 1: certain amount of time while that while you needed it.
Speaker 2: And see why Hill CJ.
Speaker 1: Anderson by the CJ Anderson righting for about two hundred
Speaker 1: on the Cowboys.
Speaker 5: Then yeah, came in and off the couch, literally off
Speaker 5: the couch.
Speaker 1: Chris Bean remembers, Yeah, seven flashbacks back behind his head
Speaker 1: shooting that with the with the camera watching CJ.
Speaker 2: Anderson run the entire time.
Speaker 7: He played really well against him against was it with
Speaker 7: Denver Beam, Yes.
Speaker 9: They had that game when they just put the doors
Speaker 9: off the Cowboys.
Speaker 2: Denver got it interesting, I think.
Speaker 1: But based off of what Nick saying, he has a
Speaker 1: productive amount of tackles. He doesn't do anything too special.
Speaker 1: He still has the readability. I mean, he's a twenty
Speaker 1: eighteen first round pick. He's still twenty seven. He turns
Speaker 1: twenty eight in the first.
Speaker 2: Week of November.
Speaker 1: But he's still young to a certain extent. You just
Speaker 1: got to bring him in and he's.
Speaker 2: Just got to plug and play.
Speaker 1: That's what you need right now, is somebody to plug
Speaker 1: and play, be a capable body.
Speaker 2: I think he's somebody that would that would certainly fit
Speaker 2: the mold.
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, if it works out, great, I'm just saying
Speaker 7: that everyone's temper expectations. Yeah right, former first round pick,
Speaker 7: you're gonna get a first round pick type player right away? Like, hey,
Speaker 7: maybe maybe you do. Maybe this is the perfect system
Speaker 7: for him. Everything works out, he stays healthy and it
Speaker 7: and it rolls.
Speaker 9: But let's be a little realistic.
Speaker 1: It is wild that he had one hundred and fifty
Speaker 1: nine tackles last year though.
Speaker 2: Yeah, then was just on the couch, just hanging Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah he uh.
Speaker 8: He had gotten signed to Philadelphia's practice squad in September
Speaker 8: and was there for like three days and then got released.
Speaker 7: Why I mean, if you go off of the Eagles
Speaker 7: game last year at AT and T Stadium, there were
Speaker 7: some signs there where t Y Hilton would fit this
Speaker 7: argument because obviously he didn't play during the season and
Speaker 7: then all of a sudden they added him in and
Speaker 7: he made an impact, like right away.
Speaker 6: I had made a hic of an impact. Yeah, he
Speaker 6: didn't even re see the ball half the times he
Speaker 6: should have. Yeah he was open open, yeah, playing flag
Speaker 6: booty button, playing flag football booty button.
Speaker 7: A And do you think that that must have been
Speaker 7: enough for us? Where he's like, I'm not coming back
Speaker 7: next year. I'm not I'm doneing football. He'st I'm not
Speaker 7: doing this.
Speaker 8: I speaking of first round picks, I think this Linebacker
Speaker 8: Depth album was kind of highlighted and probably a need there.
Speaker 8: Do you spend a first round pick on that next year?
Speaker 8: It was a conversation I was having with somebody yesterday.
Speaker 8: I thought it was an interesting conversation. Or do you
Speaker 8: still want it on the offensive line or elsewhere?
Speaker 2: Line? Yeah, give me something else.
Speaker 1: It depends on where that first round pick is. If
Speaker 1: it's like thirty one or thirty two and you win
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, then yeah, we can spend that first
Speaker 1: round pick on whatever you want.
Speaker 4: We're looking at more like seventeen.
Speaker 9: What if it was ten?
Speaker 2: I can't say that.
Speaker 9: What if it's ten?
Speaker 2: What if it was ten? Though? Absolutely not linebacker ten?
Speaker 7: No?
Speaker 2: Thanks?
Speaker 4: What if it's one?
Speaker 2: All right? Note?
Speaker 7: Hey, they took a linebacker. They took a linebacker at
Speaker 7: Penn State last time they had ten.
Speaker 9: That's true, and moved back.
Speaker 1: They had to move back to twelve to do it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: didn't feel comfortable. Yeah, now he's a pass.
Speaker 7: Got your pass rush to him. I'll never get your
Speaker 7: saying after the draft. I was like, okay, we'll see yeah, whatever,
Speaker 7: and he.
Speaker 9: Had a lot of pass rush to him.
Speaker 6: Cool.
Speaker 10: Uh.
Speaker 8: They said that about Mazie as well. I haven't really
Speaker 8: seen that so far. I haven't seen it so far.
Speaker 8: But that's not he won't.
Speaker 2: Isaiah just they spilt water everywhere? That was pure water?
Speaker 2: How yeah?
Speaker 7: Just next news and note my two favorite, My two
Speaker 7: favorite reactions so far of this show have come in
Speaker 7: the last few days, and it's that one right there
Speaker 7: yesterday yesterday with the collar said I said trade trade.
Speaker 9: Mic ut Oh my god, and he threw the mic over. Sorry,
Speaker 9: that's funny.
Speaker 4: No, you're good. The last dudes of note I have here.
Speaker 8: Jeron Curse was asked about George Kittle's interesting wardrobe choice
Speaker 8: on on Sunday Night, which, if you haven't seen it,
Speaker 8: I'm not allowed to say that.
Speaker 2: Word on the air.
Speaker 4: What was it?
Speaker 2: It?
Speaker 4: Was a it was a it was a fudge Dallas.
Speaker 8: That's exactly when it was a shirt that he had
Speaker 8: under his jersey.
Speaker 2: Uh, he didn't just flash.
Speaker 6: He ran around half the He ran around the end
Speaker 6: Zome ran around the sidelines showing it off.
Speaker 1: National TV must have known that was coming because they
Speaker 1: cut off off of him really quick. He started counting
Speaker 1: and he got to one, two and then he just
Speaker 1: got out of there.
Speaker 8: I saw it, yeah, but uh, Michael Parsons talked about
Speaker 8: it on his podcast I believe it was on Tuesday,
Speaker 8: and he was like, ah, it's made it personal now,
Speaker 8: which I think we've already talked about this week.
Speaker 4: It's already it's been personal for talking about thirty years.
Speaker 8: But jen Ron Curse was asked about it yesterday. He said,
Speaker 8: you know, the only way to stop that is to
Speaker 8: get him out of the end zone. So we let
Speaker 8: him get it in the end zone, and he chose
Speaker 8: for that to be a celebration, So the only way
Speaker 8: to stop that is to keep him out of the
Speaker 8: end zone. I don't have a problem with anything he did.
Speaker 8: If we do our job and keep him out of
Speaker 8: the end zone, he wouldn't have been able to do
Speaker 8: it in which I agree, which they're.
Speaker 4: Talking about finding you, which I get it. It was
Speaker 4: a bad word, but yeah.
Speaker 7: That's my thing is well, hold on, hold on, we're
Speaker 7: going to talk about the finding thing. He absolutely should
Speaker 7: be fine for that, and not because it says the
Speaker 7: F word or anything like that. It's because of this
Speaker 7: near I don't know. I guess it's approaching almost one
Speaker 7: hundred thousand dollars that Tyreek Hill has been fine for
Speaker 7: not wearing socks or whatever.
Speaker 9: So if you're going to do that, then F bombs.
Speaker 1: I mean, come on, kids, present, he knew what he
Speaker 1: was getting himself into, I replied to somebody on Twitter
Speaker 1: yesterday because they were they were.
Speaker 2: Saying, wow, this is the no fun league in the NFL.
Speaker 2: Strikes again.
Speaker 1: It's like dude, were a shirt with profanity on it
Speaker 1: in a national setting and he just flashed it in
Speaker 1: front of the cameras, like, of course he's gonna get fine.
Speaker 2: Proceeded to go around the rest of it.
Speaker 8: I think he has a natural hater. I really appreciated.
Speaker 8: Then it's hilarious.
Speaker 7: Honestly, if if this Tyreek Hill stuff isn't going on
Speaker 7: right now, I wouldn't pair it all but I mean
Speaker 7: it's just like because he's not wearing socks, like anytime
Speaker 7: it's a fine like that on something where it's like
Speaker 7: I'm watching the game, but you have to tell me, oh,
Speaker 7: hey did you see that?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 7: I didn't care, like it had nothing to do with anything.
Speaker 7: So if you're gonna get fined for that, then you
Speaker 7: have to get fined for something like that.
Speaker 6: I just think, I mean, just respect for the kiddos.
Speaker 6: That's the biggest thing I think they're gonna get.
Speaker 2: That's what I mean.
Speaker 6: You have an image that you're gonna portray as a
Speaker 6: as a league and protect You can't be doing that, bro.
Speaker 2: I get it, I get it, but you can't be
Speaker 2: doing that. Right.
Speaker 1: He is going to receive a fine from the Sky's standback.
Speaker 1: There's a one dollar invoice.
Speaker 2: That's that's his way.
Speaker 5: But what do you guys think about Deebo's responses that
Speaker 5: Mike though?
Speaker 2: Did you see that one?
Speaker 4: I did, but I don't remember it. Quote bar for bar.
Speaker 4: Let me see if I can find it.
Speaker 9: I basically said it could be worse.
Speaker 6: He's pretty much that you lost, bro, Like you don't
Speaker 6: want to see this again.
Speaker 2: It's kind of the that was the response, which is fair?
Speaker 6: Is fair?
Speaker 2: Fair? Yeah, I mean that's what happens. All right, let's
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Speaker 2: Of the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 1: By the way, a couple of clarifications on the facts
Speaker 1: that we had earlier.
Speaker 2: CJ.
Speaker 1: Anderson was running wild over the Cowboys with two hundred
Speaker 1: and seventy plus yards. Not him himself, but he and
Speaker 1: Gurley combined in twenty nineteen. As opposed to the twenty
Speaker 1: twenty one Super.
Speaker 2: Bowl run that they went on. I think Nick was
Speaker 2: actually right.
Speaker 1: I think they added Odell in the middle of that,
Speaker 1: but I think that was a trade to try and
Speaker 1: help bolster that roster for the Rams back in twenty
Speaker 1: twenty one.
Speaker 2: To find Deebo's quote, I did.
Speaker 8: I found out, Like as soon as before we went
Speaker 8: to break, he said, talk about laugh now, cry later.
Speaker 4: I don't think y'all want to see us again.
Speaker 2: That's what it was, laugh now, cry later. Yeah, interesting inspect.
Speaker 1: There's a little bit of it, and that's what's gonna
Speaker 1: happen after you lose foren And I mean, there's ways
Speaker 1: that you can get rid of that.
Speaker 2: And that's by playing better football. All right, this is
Speaker 2: a fun thing too.
Speaker 1: It's time to preview the Cowboys offense versus the Chargers defense,
Speaker 1: as the Cowboys will look to play better football.
Speaker 2: I've got a surprise for you guys, though. Oh we've
Speaker 2: got a sounder.
Speaker 3: Why Eddie, Why Eddie cut up, it's time for QB
Speaker 3: vision with Isaiah's standback.
Speaker 1: And that was Isaiah, by the way, giving the snapcounts
Speaker 1: all the way through.
Speaker 5: Sorry, sorry, I didn't say here we go.
Speaker 2: Here we go. All right, it's your stage now. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so let's talk about the Chargers defense.
Speaker 6: The Chargers defense, man, there's there's really not a lot
Speaker 6: to talk about in regards to these guys, but we're
Speaker 6: gonna break it down.
Speaker 5: A little bit.
Speaker 6: Anyways, they are the most elementary defense that Dallas has
Speaker 6: faced to date.
Speaker 2: My lord, speaking about disrespect, I.
Speaker 9: Mean that, I mean when they're healthy though. They got
Speaker 9: the players.
Speaker 2: That that's the thing.
Speaker 6: Yeah, So they have the personnel, right, they have the
Speaker 6: personnel mainly obviously at the first level. Okay, you got
Speaker 6: you have Bosa and you also have Mac. So those
Speaker 6: guys are pretty good. Those guys are kind of dudes.
Speaker 6: They're kind of dudes. I think Bosa may have two.
Speaker 2: Sacks three games.
Speaker 6: They go three games three sacks, and callible Mack had
Speaker 6: his coming off of a six sack game, okay, six
Speaker 6: sac game against the Raiders.
Speaker 5: Absolute dog couldn't be stopped.
Speaker 6: They depend heavily on those guys and they really just
Speaker 6: sit back on defense and say, hey, we're gonna play off.
Speaker 6: We're gonna give you everything in front of you, in
Speaker 6: front of us. We don't want to get beat over
Speaker 6: the top, we don't want to play man and the man.
Speaker 6: We just want our guys to go eat up front.
Speaker 6: And that that's literally their game plan. It honestly makes
Speaker 6: zero sense to me. With the amount of talent that
Speaker 6: they have on defense with Derln James at the second level,
Speaker 6: they should be more aggressive, but they haven't been more aggressive.
Speaker 6: I would suspect if there was ever a time to
Speaker 6: change up what they've been doing defensively, this wild probably
Speaker 6: be the week to do it because of what you
Speaker 6: saw from last.
Speaker 5: Week against the forty nine ers.
Speaker 6: Forty nine ers came up against Dallas, put their hands
Speaker 6: on guys in the line of scrimmage, like we knew
Speaker 6: that they would play majority man and man coverage, and
Speaker 6: because of that, they were able to get back there
Speaker 6: disrupt the timing of guys getting off the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 6: Ceedee Lamb, Brandon Cooks, Ferguson was in there pretty much
Speaker 6: chip blocking the whole time. Try to make sure that
Speaker 6: acting gets sacked and that didn't work either, because Bosa
Speaker 6: still had a day. That's what I would foresee this
Speaker 6: defense doing to Dallas this week if they were going
Speaker 6: to change up, because if they don't change up, they
Speaker 6: are twenty eighth in the league. I believe in total
Speaker 6: offense allowed, giving up three hundred yards passing per game,
Speaker 6: giving up over one hundred and five yards rushing per game.
Speaker 6: This defense is not good statistically. But again to your point,
Speaker 6: they have the personnel. The issue that this defense presents
Speaker 6: is going to be upfront with Mac and Bosa. You
Speaker 6: have to pick your poison. Bosa is not the same
Speaker 6: as the Bosa you faced last week. Let's make that
Speaker 6: pretty much clear. He is untraditional in how he rushes.
Speaker 6: He is not the typical, you know, up and under
Speaker 6: type of guy. He's typically gonna go either up and
Speaker 6: around or he's gonna run a stunt. They run a
Speaker 6: crap out of some stunts. I mean almost every pass
Speaker 6: rush is a stunt. And that's I mean everything everything
Speaker 6: they do upfront is to free up Mac and free
Speaker 6: up Bosa. They want to go up the field, they
Speaker 6: want to cross your face, demand your responsibilities from your
Speaker 6: tackles and your guards, and hopefully that they can come
Speaker 6: up and underneath.
Speaker 2: Okay, on a stunt of very elementary. It is because it.
Speaker 6: Is very elementary because you know what it is now,
Speaker 6: your execution of your responsibilities.
Speaker 5: That's when that's what comes into play.
Speaker 6: So your ability to consistently pass off your responsibility is
Speaker 6: consistently work with your opposing offensive lineman to ensure that hey,
Speaker 6: guess what now this guy, I'm passing this guy off
Speaker 6: to you.
Speaker 2: I'm tracking this guy who's coming now on the inside.
Speaker 6: Like you have to do that consistently, because if you're
Speaker 6: throwing the ball what I foresee Dak probably doing this week.
Speaker 6: I see him throwing the ball forty times this week.
Speaker 6: It's just what I have in the future.
Speaker 9: Right more down the field, they're similar to what I
Speaker 9: think they're.
Speaker 6: Going to take shots since week I think, yeah, well,
Speaker 6: I mean the Chargers defense last in the NFL and
Speaker 6: passing yards just to classify the stat last.
Speaker 1: In the NFL and passing yards nearly three hundred yards
Speaker 1: per game allowed, thirty first in total.
Speaker 2: Yards per game. Got you there, you go? Yeah, so
Speaker 2: bottom two in both categories.
Speaker 6: Ter reblay to reblay, and it's not because of personnel.
Speaker 6: It's because of the scheme that they're running. They want
Speaker 6: to run Cover four okay, which is off and off
Speaker 6: and outside. It's just quarters every all, both corners, both
Speaker 6: safeties have a quarter.
Speaker 2: Of the field.
Speaker 6: They want to sit back and pretty much watch the game.
Speaker 6: Whenever they do road a single high safety is usually
Speaker 6: it's usually the safety is cheating to cheating on the
Speaker 6: hash of the two man side. If it's equal two
Speaker 6: men on each side, they're cheating to the side that
Speaker 6: they feel most threatened by. And it's a it's a
Speaker 6: Cover three, but it's a Cover three with the safety
Speaker 6: cheated over. And that's really all they're doing. It's like
Speaker 6: I said, it's it's very elementary.
Speaker 2: I mean you could I could.
Speaker 6: I could have easily set back here last week I
Speaker 6: said that San Francisco's is elementary too, but they just
Speaker 6: run it so well, right, I mean, so they run
Speaker 6: man to man coverage, they run four, they run two,
Speaker 6: they run the basic coverages, but they just do it
Speaker 6: at a high level. Well, now you're facing a defense
Speaker 6: that's runs very elementary. They don't play man. They hardly
Speaker 6: play man ever, and they are not good at executing it.
Speaker 6: There is one guy at the second level that you
Speaker 6: might want to have your eye on a number nine
Speaker 6: in Derwin James.
Speaker 5: He will knock your mouthpiece out of your whole face.
Speaker 2: Derwin James, where's number three? The number nine is Kenneth.
Speaker 6: Sorry, Kenneth Murray three. I'm talking about Kenneth Murray. Sorry,
Speaker 6: both guys, Kennith Murray.
Speaker 2: Nuber nine. My apologies.
Speaker 6: Uh yeah, so Kenneth Murray, number nine will knock your
Speaker 6: whole face off. Derwin James is really good as well.
Speaker 6: But nine is flying around the field and he is
Speaker 6: a heat seeking missile. All he wants to do is hit, hit, hit, hit, hit,
Speaker 6: hit right. So that is the man that you need
Speaker 6: to be concerned about over there at the second level.
Speaker 6: And honestly, outside of that, there's not a lot there
Speaker 6: really isn't a lot. I wish I could provide you
Speaker 6: more there. There's just everybody has been able to eat
Speaker 6: on them. Every single one of their opponents has been
Speaker 6: able to move the ball there. They don't really change
Speaker 6: up much. Even when you get down into the red zone.
Speaker 6: It's not like you push them. You know, they give
Speaker 6: give gibb and all of a sudden they hunker down
Speaker 6: in the red zone. They're not even been doing that,
Speaker 6: And obviously the Raiders gave up the cookies last week
Speaker 6: with with Khalil Mack or the week before with Mac
Speaker 6: just being able to do what he wants. But majority
Speaker 6: of those sacks again came off of just those stunts.
Speaker 2: Nothing super complex.
Speaker 6: But you have to be able to effectively do your
Speaker 6: responsibility and and do it do it to the best
Speaker 6: of your ability so that you don't get beat up
Speaker 6: because you can't just focus on one side. Last week
Speaker 6: with Bosa, there was a lot of emphasis placed on
Speaker 6: ensuring that he didn't really get off the ball right
Speaker 6: and making sure that you're chipping him, you're keeping your
Speaker 6: tight ends in your running backs Tore trying to chip
Speaker 6: off where you can't really put that that emphasis this
Speaker 6: week on either side because if you focus on one guy,
Speaker 6: then the other guy will come back and get you,
Speaker 6: and they're pretty much both.
Speaker 5: Doing the same thing simultaneously.
Speaker 6: Up up, up, wait, wait wait, So as soon as
Speaker 6: my tackles cross your face, now I'm coming up and underneath,
Speaker 6: and I'm really trying to hit that gap that's right
Speaker 6: next to the either center, either side of the center.
Speaker 6: So that's that's pretty much their defense in a nutshell.
Speaker 5: It's I looked.
Speaker 2: I looked.
Speaker 6: I looked, and I was like, yeah, there's just not
Speaker 6: there's not a lot here, not nearly as complex as
Speaker 6: a majority of the NFL and defense that you were
Speaker 6: facing the league question.
Speaker 8: They're giving up two hundred ninety nine point eight pass
Speaker 8: sharps per game, almost three hundred, like you said, with
Speaker 8: guys like Derwin James as Sante Samuel in the secondary.
Speaker 2: And how is this happening? That's what I'm saying. Personnel wise,
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 6: If you were to give this defense, this defensive personnel
Speaker 6: to Dan Quinn, this would be, you know, a top
Speaker 6: top five defense.
Speaker 7: But they have a defensive head coach too. That's why
Speaker 7: usually that that's your staple.
Speaker 6: Again, I don't get it, Yeah, I don't get it.
Speaker 6: I don't know if they're resting so much on Keller
Speaker 6: Moore that they're just like, hey, let's just protect, protect,
Speaker 6: protect as much as we can. Let's not take any risk, right,
Speaker 6: let's keep it closer that our offense can go out
Speaker 6: there and take over. Or they don't trust their guys
Speaker 6: and they just traded away. J C.
Speaker 2: Jackson, like, what are you doing? You know like you have.
Speaker 6: You had a two headed monster from two years ago that.
Speaker 2: That the rest of the league feared.
Speaker 6: I mean, you put together this defense that was two
Speaker 6: defensive and two cornerbacks, a heck of a safety, a
Speaker 6: heck of a linebacker like you had threats at every
Speaker 6: single level, and now all of a sudden, you trade
Speaker 6: away one of your best guys and now you're playing
Speaker 6: super soft defense. You're not playing if I had those
Speaker 6: guys out of it, been playing man the man all
Speaker 6: day with those defensive ends.
Speaker 2: Yet try to get off the ball.
Speaker 6: Try to get off the ball, just like just like
Speaker 6: San Francisco did against Dallas last week. We're gonna press you,
Speaker 6: and by the time you figure out a way to
Speaker 6: get passed are the first five yards of getting you know,
Speaker 6: our hands on off of you.
Speaker 2: We'll probably got to have a sack. You know that.
Speaker 2: That's what they should be doing, But they're not. And
Speaker 2: I'm not complaining.
Speaker 6: I hope they continue it, but I don't see how
Speaker 6: they can continue this season doing the same thing that
Speaker 6: they've been doing.
Speaker 2: So much like the Dallas Cowboys offense has to change.
Speaker 6: Something has to change about it, and not saying that
Speaker 6: you have to change the entire offense, but you have
Speaker 6: to change a way that it looks. You have to
Speaker 6: change the way that you present it. You have to
Speaker 6: change the way that you get to formations and things
Speaker 6: of that nature. I think that the Chargers are pretty
Speaker 6: much in that same boat on the other side of
Speaker 6: the ball where they have to start changing things up
Speaker 6: the way it looks, because right now when you step
Speaker 6: to the line of scriptment, you know what they're in.
Speaker 6: They're not moving safeties around, They're not rotating anybody down
Speaker 6: like their coverage is what you see pre snap and
Speaker 6: posting that breeds are majority of the time the SAME's.
Speaker 2: It is interesting because.
Speaker 1: You look at even the supporting cast behind guys like
Speaker 1: Asante's Namiel Derwin, James Kenneth, Murray Khalil mack Nick, I mean,
Speaker 1: Joey Bosa. I mean, you've got five guys there that's
Speaker 1: half of your defense.
Speaker 2: All pro are just straight stars.
Speaker 1: But then you've got like Eric Kendricks, solid player, solid linebacker,
Speaker 1: Twoey below to who is the second round picked US
Speaker 1: last year out of at USC good player, solid player.
Speaker 1: I mean it's Gilman on the second level has been
Speaker 1: pretty good. He was a six round pick back in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty, but still somebody that you could rely on,
Speaker 1: and that's been a starter in the league pretty much
Speaker 1: since he got.
Speaker 2: Into the Fold.
Speaker 1: So even with the supporting cast around it, you look
Speaker 1: at it and it's not necessarily a massive drop off
Speaker 1: from the five stars that you know that all.
Speaker 9: Of this is being sad.
Speaker 7: You know that they're gonna they're gonna put up great
Speaker 7: four turnovers.
Speaker 9: James will be a monster. Uh yeah, he was at
Speaker 9: practice yesterday.
Speaker 7: By the way, he had a hamstring so he missed
Speaker 7: the last game, but he was at their at their practice.
Speaker 2: Looks like they're getting everybody back just in time.
Speaker 14: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Austin Eckler missed three games. Now he's back in
Speaker 1: the Fold, says ninety nine percent chance he's playing justin
Speaker 1: Herbert's back after missing a game.
Speaker 2: When James is back after missing a game.
Speaker 7: What would be the most important thing that you'd like
Speaker 7: to see from the Cowboys offense if I had to
Speaker 7: pick between these two things, Yeah, Tony Pollard gets going
Speaker 7: or the downfield passing game gets going.
Speaker 6: Tony Pollard. I don't think that they have a rush defense.
Speaker 6: I really don't. I don't think they have the guys
Speaker 6: up front. I know they picked up a couple of
Speaker 6: guys from the Giants. They don't have the front to
Speaker 6: stop you from running effectively. Now, again you gotta worry
Speaker 6: about Murray at the second level. He's going to come
Speaker 6: in and literally try to light you up. But you know,
Speaker 6: I think you can use his aggressiveness against him, much
Speaker 6: like people use Michael Parson's aggressiveness against him, Like he
Speaker 6: gets so locked in on trying to hit you like
Speaker 6: that he can get the around the corner and you
Speaker 6: could be gone. But I think that you could run
Speaker 6: the ball really effectively against these guys because again, their
Speaker 6: base defense is too high. So anytime you have two
Speaker 6: high safeties, you want to run because usually you have
Speaker 6: a five or six man box. So if you can
Speaker 6: come out here and effectively run the ball, now you
Speaker 6: can get them out of something that they really want
Speaker 6: to be in. And now you can get to your
Speaker 6: shots because you're going to get zone. Even if they
Speaker 6: go single high, you're going to get zoned. They hardly
Speaker 6: ever play man, like I don't know why, Like they
Speaker 6: have the personnel.
Speaker 2: They don't play man.
Speaker 6: It baffles me because I would if I promise you
Speaker 6: if I was playing mad and I'm pressing you every
Speaker 6: single time.
Speaker 2: With these guys.
Speaker 1: Do you think maybe there's a lack of trust in
Speaker 1: one of those pieces on the outside.
Speaker 2: To the fact that they're like, we just can't do it.
Speaker 6: Possibly, I mean, but it can't be that bad, you know,
Speaker 6: like you really can't be that bad, like this risk
Speaker 6: versus reward. I'm seeing them get torched in zone more
Speaker 6: than anything. Like they're they're giving up the goodies in
Speaker 6: zone team because you're coming out and you see it
Speaker 6: and you're like, that's cover four.
Speaker 2: Are they changing?
Speaker 6: Nope, still cover four? So our cover four beaters right
Speaker 6: here and there it is, Okay, what is it?
Speaker 2: Cover two? They gotta change this, right, No, they don't
Speaker 2: change it. Cover two?
Speaker 6: All right, I'm gonna hear the mount Adams right there
Speaker 6: in a two hole, like so they they're not changing anything.
Speaker 6: So Dak I would like, I said, I'm cautious to
Speaker 6: say this, but like this is elementary, so like if
Speaker 6: you see it, believe it, trust it right, and drive
Speaker 6: the ball to where it's supposed to go based upon
Speaker 6: what the defense is providing to you. There shouldn't be
Speaker 6: double pumping. There shouldn't be questioning, and it shouldn't be hesitation,
Speaker 6: like you.
Speaker 2: Know what they're in.
Speaker 6: This isn't not the Arizona Cardinals where you like you
Speaker 6: just couldn't figure out like what, like what are they doing?
Speaker 5: You know, like their stuff was complex, right, like is
Speaker 5: it two?
Speaker 2: Is it three? I don't know what the heck? This
Speaker 2: is a right?
Speaker 6: Let me see it play out, like as you play,
Speaker 6: as you're dropping back, you're still trying to figure out
Speaker 6: what defense they're in. Right, this is not that this
Speaker 6: is very simple, but again, you can get them out
Speaker 6: of what they want to do best. If Tony Palterer
Speaker 6: can get off the ball and just freaking run this
Speaker 6: thing down their throat?
Speaker 8: What would make you feel good about this offense coming
Speaker 8: out of this game after what we saw on Sunday
Speaker 8: in San Francisco? What would make you feel Okay, there's
Speaker 8: something here going into.
Speaker 4: The bye week.
Speaker 5: Give me twenty first downs?
Speaker 4: Okay, give me twenty first down.
Speaker 6: Give me twenty first downs and sixty sixty five percent
Speaker 6: in a reison.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'll take it.
Speaker 2: Touchdown.
Speaker 9: I mean, getting in the red zone would be nice,
Speaker 9: you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, last week that would be nice.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, I'll be happy with that because you're
Speaker 6: getting back to your to your your ways you had
Speaker 6: before the forty nine ers, and like they're just doing
Speaker 6: this right now, that's what Dallas is doing. They're they're literally,
Speaker 6: I mean they're they're breaststroking right, They're up there, down up,
Speaker 6: they're down like they're trying to figure out themselves. And
Speaker 6: they still don't have an identity offensively. That's the thing
Speaker 6: that's bothering people more than anything. They don't have an
Speaker 6: offensive identity. People know that there's been a change, a
Speaker 6: change in the in the freaking leadership in terms of
Speaker 6: who's calling the offensive plays, and you don't know what
Speaker 6: to expect.
Speaker 5: At least with killing Moore, you knew what to expect, right.
Speaker 9: He does an experience. Can you develop that throughout a
Speaker 9: season or do you have to know early on?
Speaker 2: No, absolutely you can develop it.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I just I mean again, I can't get in
Speaker 6: coach McCarthy's head to know what his approach has been.
Speaker 6: I believe in the West Coast offense, I truly do.
Speaker 6: I love the West Coast. That's what I was, that's
Speaker 6: what I was brought up in. But I also know
Speaker 6: how you can make it. You could make it complex
Speaker 6: for opposing defenses, and it just hasn't been the same way.
Speaker 6: I'm talking about the Chargers defense. How you line up
Speaker 6: and you see what they're in and you're like, m
Speaker 6: all right, they're gonna change it.
Speaker 2: Nope. Same thing with Dallas's offense.
Speaker 6: They come to the line of scrimmage, You're like, all right,
Speaker 6: we're out here. There's the formation we're in. Is anybody moving?
Speaker 2: Nope? Nope, nope. That's that's pretty much where they're in
Speaker 2: it is. It's mostly a decoy and it's clear out.
Speaker 2: You clear out cooks.
Speaker 8: And that's what was so beautiful about the Turbine touchdown
Speaker 8: is the fact that he was getting into motion and
Speaker 8: throwing guys around and it ended up being a busted
Speaker 8: coverage and he got open over the top, Like, let's
Speaker 8: see more of that.
Speaker 1: When that play happened, the momentum shifted completely. Dallas had
Speaker 1: the momentum. They got back on defense. Everything was working.
Speaker 1: You were down by seven, but after starting fourteen nothing,
Speaker 1: you just had the perfect offensive drive.
Speaker 2: Everything was still in your playbook.
Speaker 1: And then of course the penalties happened they where they did, unfortunately,
Speaker 1: but I agree with you completely that play was magnificent.
Speaker 1: The drive was magnificent. It was perfect, and you're capable,
Speaker 1: like this office is very capable. Anyone can do it
Speaker 1: just in flashes, but the consistency is not there absolutely
Speaker 1: when we come back, I want to keep this conversation
Speaker 1: going because I want to talk about one can even
Speaker 1: knowing a fastball is coming, since it is baseball time
Speaker 1: in Texas. Knowing that a fastball is coming and still
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Speaker 1: with Isaiah Stanback, John Matchoda, Nick Harris, I'm Kyle Yeomans.
Speaker 2: First things first, we were talking.
Speaker 1: About Dak Prescott and how this is a simplistic coverage
Speaker 1: that he's going to see.
Speaker 2: Quarters, cover four, cover two.
Speaker 1: Not a whole lot of disguising at least on the
Speaker 1: film that's been put on there through the first and
Speaker 1: their games. For I almost said it again Los Angeles,
Speaker 1: My question becomes, I mean, just because you know a
Speaker 1: fastball is coming from a fastball pitcher doesn't mean you
Speaker 1: always can hit it.
Speaker 2: So with Dak and the way that he's struggled to.
Speaker 1: See coverages at certain times throughout his career, and especially
Speaker 1: right now when his confidence level, at least from the
Speaker 1: outside looking in, we can't be in Dak Prescott's head,
Speaker 1: it looks like it's at an all time low.
Speaker 2: Does this game either help him as is is this
Speaker 2: exactly what the doctor ordered? Or could this be the
Speaker 2: opposite where.
Speaker 1: He's over analyzing going into it and he can struggle
Speaker 1: because of it.
Speaker 6: You know what, The challenge that I foresee potentially being
Speaker 6: present this week for Dak Prescott is wanting to push
Speaker 6: the ball down the field, but this quarters defense is
Speaker 6: not a defense that you can push the ball down
Speaker 6: the field on so wanting that payback, wanting to get
Speaker 6: back into saddle, wanting to make some big plays. But
Speaker 6: the defense that you're facing is going to require you
Speaker 6: to be patient, methodical, and work your way down the field.
Speaker 6: That internal battle is going to be the biggest challenge
Speaker 6: I foresee for dak because and for McCarthy because I
Speaker 6: think he's hearing the noise.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's like water.
Speaker 6: Water is eventually going to get through, right like, so
Speaker 6: you can block out majority of it, but once it
Speaker 6: starts leaking in, and like I hear you, I hear
Speaker 6: you talking about how we don't have any big plays.
Speaker 6: I hear you talking about how CDMB Cooks is not involved.
Speaker 6: I hear you talking about how Ferguson has just turned
Speaker 6: into a blocking guy. Right now, every team that you
Speaker 6: face has a defensive end. Like that's what's being said.
Speaker 6: So eventually he's like, all right, all right, I'm gonna
Speaker 6: show you, right, I'm gonna push this thing down the field.
Speaker 6: You can't push you down the field versus four like
Speaker 6: on over routes and things of that nature. But then
Speaker 6: you have to factor in to the stands, do I
Speaker 6: have the time to really get down the field to
Speaker 6: push the ball down the field as well. So you're
Speaker 6: really that's the battle that I foresee happening. If you
Speaker 6: come out and run your traditional West Coast offense Texas
Speaker 6: Coast Texas Toast offense, then you rent it the way
Speaker 6: that you've been running it prior to the forty nine Ers,
Speaker 6: You're going.
Speaker 5: To be very successful against this Chargers defense.
Speaker 8: Yeah, go ahead, No, you're good for me. I see
Speaker 8: levels to getting to downfield. If you had told me,
Speaker 8: like before the San Francisco game, what do you want
Speaker 8: to see most? Yeah, I want to see that vertical game.
Speaker 8: I want to see them at downfield. Now, I just
Speaker 8: want to see timing. I just want to see timing
Speaker 8: on things across the middle, because, like you said, if
Speaker 8: there's a quarters defense, there's going to be a lot
Speaker 8: of opportunity right there in the middle of that defense.
Speaker 4: Let's just attack what they're good at. Let's play these strengths.
Speaker 9: And I just want to see ced lambe at the
Speaker 9: ball when he's opened.
Speaker 4: That would be cool too. He does too, Actually I
Speaker 4: asked him about that.
Speaker 2: He does too.
Speaker 1: And then that's man, this is such a weird week
Speaker 1: for this then, because on one side you have the
Speaker 1: knowledge of, Hey, this is a this is a team
Speaker 1: where if we just run our system, if we run
Speaker 1: the scheme that we've been running, then we'll have some success.
Speaker 1: On the other end, there's a pride factor of Okay,
Speaker 1: maybe our system isn't really what's best for this offense.
Speaker 1: Maybe there's some things we need to do outside of
Speaker 1: our system.
Speaker 9: But hold on real quick on that point.
Speaker 7: I'll tell you what I really felt like on Tuesday
Speaker 7: morning that Jerry was really making it sound like, well,
Speaker 7: you can't do that. Now we're in it. This is
Speaker 7: what we've done. You can't just all of a sudden.
Speaker 7: Do you remember when he was talking about like, you
Speaker 7: can't just all of a sudden just change stuff now,
Speaker 7: you know?
Speaker 9: And I kind of understand. I would believe that.
Speaker 7: Why would you even trying to implement this all season
Speaker 7: or all off season, and all of a sudden you're
Speaker 7: just going to start changing it back to stuff that
Speaker 7: you were doing before.
Speaker 9: I don't think that would be good either. I think
Speaker 9: that you have to stay the course with.
Speaker 1: It, especially whenever your offensive coordinator that you did it
Speaker 1: with previously is on the opposite line of scrimmage, our
Speaker 1: opposite sideline this week, and you've got.
Speaker 9: An offensive coordinator that this is the way that is.
Speaker 6: Yeah, on a flip side, and we're talking about the
Speaker 6: Chargers defense. But what Kellen Moore is doing with their
Speaker 6: offense right now, Man, this stuff looks good.
Speaker 4: It's cooking. And they really they have yet to have
Speaker 4: all everybody helvy no either.
Speaker 6: I think they're top top five right yeah, number five,
Speaker 6: And when you watch it, I mean it's it was
Speaker 6: a lot.
Speaker 5: It's a huge contract. I don't want to get into
Speaker 5: it too much. I know we have to get off
Speaker 5: of here.
Speaker 6: But Keenan Allen, good luck finding him. Good luck finding
Speaker 6: him where he's at on the field, because he's not
Speaker 6: just a ligning. He's not just lining up on the
Speaker 6: outside like what you're seeing right now with CD. If
Speaker 6: you want to since we want to do contrast, CDB
Speaker 6: cooks is easy to find her outside.
Speaker 5: They might do a little short motion.
Speaker 6: Keenan Allen is everywhere everywhere, and they're finding way they
Speaker 6: make sure that he gets the rock, Like we know
Speaker 6: what the coverage is.
Speaker 2: We're gonna put him out here. Matter of fact.
Speaker 6: Now, we're gonna shift him over here, and then we're
Speaker 6: gonna motion them over here like You're not just gonna
Speaker 6: be able to line up and find Keenan Allen. So
Speaker 6: there is no if you want to play man, lock
Speaker 6: on him like you're gonna be, You're gonna have a
Speaker 6: heck of a day. It's gonna be like trying to
Speaker 6: trying to guard Reggie Miller when he doesn't have the ball,
Speaker 6: like he's gonna he's coming off screens, he's coming off everything,
Speaker 6: like he's just all over the place.
Speaker 2: And they do a heck of a job of moving
Speaker 2: their guys around.
Speaker 7: Did you feel that way about Ceedee Lamb last year
Speaker 7: with the way they used the last year.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they moved them around pretty good.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I didn't say.
Speaker 2: That's what I was wondering. Yeah, I mean, but that's
Speaker 2: that's Kella Moore. Yeah, that's Kellamore's two different two different approaches.
Speaker 2: Not to say that one is better than the other,
Speaker 2: one is wrong. Like Kellen Moore.
Speaker 6: Just pushes the ball down the field, and in order
Speaker 6: to get your playmakers the ball. Most people want to
Speaker 6: see the razzle dalls and most people want to see
Speaker 6: big plays.
Speaker 2: But we sat here.
Speaker 6: In training camp, and I sat here on there, and
Speaker 6: I think everybody did sit here and told you that
Speaker 6: this is not going to be the statistical team that
Speaker 6: you once saw. No, we said there early early on.
Speaker 6: I said, this offense, like, get that out of your head.
Speaker 6: If you think that you're about to see these guys
Speaker 6: light up the stats the stat sheet, like, it's not
Speaker 6: gonna happen in this offense. And I don't know if
Speaker 6: people were believing me, but but it's not gonna happen
Speaker 6: in this offense.
Speaker 2: I think people believe you.
Speaker 7: I think it said they didn't think it would be
Speaker 7: this bad. You know that they didn't lose twenty three
Speaker 7: seventeen to the Niners. You know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 7: I don't think people thought it would get to this
Speaker 7: level where you're just like, man, five weeks in and this.
Speaker 9: Is what it's like.
Speaker 6: What you saw those first four weeks, you call it
Speaker 6: first four weeks is what this office is supposed to
Speaker 6: look like.
Speaker 1: Yes, And that's kind of what I was going to
Speaker 1: lead into, is if if everything goes right from a
Speaker 1: defensive standpoint and from a special team standpoint, and you
Speaker 1: can get up and you can either play with the
Speaker 1: lead or plays in striking distance, this offense can still
Speaker 1: work even without the numbers without it, because then it
Speaker 1: plays into that complimentary.
Speaker 2: Football that we've always talked about.
Speaker 1: It's whenever you get out of that game plan, whenever
Speaker 1: teams do take what you do best away, like Arizona did,
Speaker 1: like San Francisco.
Speaker 2: Did, that's when you get into problems.
Speaker 1: And that's when, yeah, you would like to have a
Speaker 1: deep ball down the field, or yes, you would like
Speaker 1: to have a big attack or a big response in
Speaker 1: those certain scenarios, you don't always get that.
Speaker 2: Who else can bring up some of that's not good
Speaker 2: to bring up much? You want to bring it up
Speaker 2: with weird say it with your.
Speaker 6: Chest, you want to bring it up, Yeah, the white part.
Speaker 2: And bubble guts list. I believe y'all, but I don't know.
Speaker 2: You know what, Let's let's save it for say with no, no, yes, yes,
Speaker 2: let's save it. We gotta go. Beamer's already in our.
Speaker 5: City, lamb up for renewal here soon.
Speaker 2: No, Okay, I think I said, if you're c.
Speaker 6: D and you want the ball, do you stay in
Speaker 6: the offense that's not pushing the body on the field.
Speaker 7: I think I don't think that Jerry Will would even
Speaker 7: have to make that decision.
Speaker 2: Okay, something to talk about going into tomorrow this week.
Speaker 2: I promised the stat by the way, so I want.
Speaker 9: To deliver the stat He's not letting him leave. I'm
Speaker 9: telling you right now.
Speaker 2: Uh is it encouraging? Further on that very quickly here, guys,
Speaker 2: very quickly. Is it encouraging?
Speaker 1: Is it encouraging the fact that Bosa has never had
Speaker 1: a sack in two career games against Dallas on only
Speaker 1: three total pressures or is that scary?
Speaker 5: Go It doesn't scare me at all. He's he doesn't
Speaker 5: scare me.
Speaker 2: It's not the same.
Speaker 9: I mean, I think he's a little scary.
Speaker 8: He's encouraging because I know Terrence Steel has his number. M.
Speaker 1: Terrence Steele was thrown into the fire is l A
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago and survived.
Speaker 2: And he did survive. Yeah, see did little Mexico you
Speaker 2: need to worry about? I agree, he had success. So
Speaker 2: there you go. All right, that's it for talking cowboys.
Speaker 2: Oh we've got to say with your chest Friday coming tomorrow.
Speaker 1: It should be fun. Nick wants to talk about it already.
Speaker 1: I wish we could. But that's it for us here
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