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Speaker 2: A commentator, international social media sensation and former Navy intelligence veteran.

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Speaker 3: This is Human Events with your host Jack Prosovic.

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Speaker 4: Tells the story of secrets and mystery.

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Speaker 5: The entails of the communist history. I want to know

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Speaker 4: Going there? All right?

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Speaker 1: Jack Pasobic Live Happy Thanksgiving? Yes, today is Thanksgiving? And

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Speaker 1: as you call that was the Unhumans theme song, because

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Speaker 1: today is an Unhumans Thanksgiving special with Jack and Joshua.

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Speaker 1: Joshua Lisad, co author of Unhumans and Bulletproof, joins us.

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Speaker 4: Joshua, how are you happy Thanksgiving? Jack?

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Speaker 3: It's good to be here again. Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Happy Thanksgiving? Incredible and so we have so much to

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Speaker 1: be thankful for. We've been blessed so much with an

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Speaker 1: abundance of joy and abundance of riches this year. And

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Speaker 1: yet and yet the Unhumans are still with us, aren't they.

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Speaker 1: They're still all around us. They're still plying away and

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Speaker 1: attempting to subvert all of the goodness.

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Speaker 1: And so today I thought something that could be a

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Speaker 1: Maybe if you eat earlier, sitting down already, maybe we

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Speaker 3: Like, that's right. Prior to, during and after the immediate

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Speaker 3: And the uptick was when Donald J. Trump survived the

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Speaker 3: and Trump voters. And given that Team Kamala and a

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Speaker 3: team Humanities we like to call them, have lost. They

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Speaker 3: And so the unhuman ing that the far left has

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Speaker 3: and that is unhuman ing you if you are a

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Speaker 1: It is the Unhumans Thanksgiving Special here on Human Events

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Speaker 4: Yes, we've cooked the beautiful Unhumans turkey for you. We

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Speaker 1: All right, so, by the way, Joshua I was I

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Speaker 4: So I want to play this clip now from Joy

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Speaker 1: I guess this was one herd TikTok or some such

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Speaker 7: People are rightfully alarmed, they have a reason to be learned,

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Speaker 1: Can we apply the unhuman's filter to everything joy and

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Speaker 4: So so Joshua, let's let's go through this.

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Speaker 1: Then let's say, Okay, that's them, that's them, that's one side.

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Speaker 1: And you, you people, we understand you're upset because, oh,

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Speaker 1: are out of the bathroom now and into the other bathroom,

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Speaker 1: and you're upset because there's so much acceptance and so

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Speaker 1: much But that's all this is. It's just a response

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Speaker 1: to all the progress and all the changes, but but

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Speaker 1: you'll eventually get.

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Speaker 4: With the program.

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Speaker 1: What are some tips that people can use to interact

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Speaker 1: with these people? And I'm not going to say you're

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Speaker 1: going to turn into a Trump supporter, but just in general,

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Speaker 1: what can we do?

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Speaker 3: Yes, besides ghost writing and writing books scaring about socialists

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Speaker 3: into hiding with some of the books that I do,

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Speaker 3: I also have a background and professional hypnosis, so I'm

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Speaker 3: going to use the hypnosis filter onto this. When you

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Speaker 3: look at the mental and social environment of the leftist

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Speaker 3: liberals and even your garden variety democrats, their world has

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Speaker 3: enforced rules, morals, and social shaming is part of that

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Speaker 3: to enforce that. This sort of internally and externally enforced

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Speaker 3: system of shame where you can't say these things unless

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Speaker 3: you are willing to be ostracized. Cancel culture is a

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Speaker 3: uniquely left wing phenomenon. And so if we want to

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Speaker 3: think about changing people's minds, going from antagonizing us over

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Speaker 3: a turkey leg, going from negative to neutral, we have

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Speaker 3: to think about what allows the liberal to shame free

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Speaker 3: change their mind and that is not throwing the lots

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Speaker 3: of evidence in facts. Data facts don't care about your

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Speaker 3: feelings and on humans, we say, no, feelings don't care

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Speaker 3: about your facts. The feelings of the left do not

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Speaker 3: care about the facts of the right. So if you

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Speaker 3: come out and say, well, almost two thirds of Native

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Speaker 3: Americans voted for Donald Trump, that is like speaking a

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Speaker 3: different language. They're just going to interpret what you said as, oh,

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Speaker 3: so Trump hates Indians. Is that what you just said?

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Speaker 3: How did you get the opposite of what I said? Right?

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Speaker 3: So facts are useless because they will take it and

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Speaker 3: twist it into the exact opposite. So here's what you

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Speaker 3: can do. You can do what it's called pacing and

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Speaker 3: leading comes directly from the hypnosis in practice working with

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Speaker 3: clients privately, and what you do is you radically agree

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Speaker 3: and maximally agree with what it is that they said

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Speaker 3: that you believe that you can agree with. So, for example,

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Speaker 3: let's say they come out with some bomb about Trump

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Speaker 3: or one of his affiliates or nominees, maybe it's RFK Junior,

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Speaker 3: and they say something about RFK Junior that is frankly

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Speaker 3: a horrific insult, even a lie, And you can say, yeah,

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Speaker 3: a lot of people think that about RFK jor a

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Speaker 3: lot of people feel that way about him, and Nicole

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Speaker 3: Shanahan and the Make America Healthy Again movement. A lot

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Speaker 3: of people feel that way, and then that will allow

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Speaker 3: them to feel comfortable sharing their feelings. Do this enough

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Speaker 3: times and it's not probably gonna be over Thanksgiving dinner,

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Speaker 3: but this will diffuse the intensity, so they agreeing with

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Speaker 3: the feeling. Yeah, a lot of people feel that way.

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Speaker 3: A lot of people agree with that. Yeah, a lot

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Speaker 3: of people think that. Yeah, and just do that continually.

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Speaker 3: Might take months, it might even take years. But if

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Speaker 3: that's your stance of being magnanimous, yes, with friends, family

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Speaker 3: and relatives, and we should be. We should be with him.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, be magnanimous. Hope, be that way. Hold that thought,

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Speaker 4: quick break right back.

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Speaker 1: The Thanksgiving Unhuman Special continues.

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Speaker 3: And Jack, Where's Jack?

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Speaker 2: Where's Jack?

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Speaker 8: Where is he?

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Speaker 2: Jack?

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Speaker 8: I want to see you.

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Speaker 6: Great job, Jack, Thank you, what a job you do.

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Speaker 3: You know, we have an incredible thing. We're always talking about.

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Speaker 6: The fake news and the bad, but we have guys

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Speaker 6: and these are the guys should be getting Pulicuski.

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Speaker 4: All right, Jack Selvick back here.

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Speaker 1: We are Human Events Daily, the Unhuman's Thanksgiving Spece with

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Speaker 1: Jack and Joshua. By the way, one thing that we've

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Speaker 1: left off the list. Of course, the great, the Great

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Speaker 1: Chairman Mao. Oh, yes, the helmsman himself. Chairman Mao will

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Speaker 1: be bringing Mao's iron rice bowl of nothing. Yes, the

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Speaker 1: iron rice bowl of nothing from Chairman Mao. But look, folks,

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Speaker 1: I know I understand today's Thanksgiving, but you got to

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Speaker 1: think about what's going on your dinner plate every single

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Speaker 4: Look, I love this stuff.

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Speaker 1: When it's not Thanksgiving, I say, Tanya, Tay, get it

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Speaker 1: so Joshua Leisek, co author of Unhuman and another book

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Speaker 1: which I want to mention in a minute. Here you

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Speaker 1: were in the middle of telling us all about so

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Speaker 1: you walked through and unpacked the psychology of a leftist

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Speaker 1: and the fact that they actually tend to get more

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Speaker 1: triggered when they are faced with someone who's being polite

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Speaker 1: and happy and fun. You know, maybe, by the way,

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Speaker 1: you could even prepare a little one of everyone should

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Speaker 1: do this, by the way, for leftists out there, and say, look,

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Speaker 1: I'm very sorry that you lost, and I'm very sorry

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Speaker 1: that you're not going to be living under communism, but

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Speaker 1: we're gonna do something for you. So I want to

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Speaker 1: give you a little taste of what it would be

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Speaker 1: like if communism had won, and just hand them an

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Speaker 1: empty bowl and say, there you go, there you go.

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Speaker 1: You can taste exactly what it been like to live

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Speaker 1: and share in Mao's China with Mao's iron rice bowl

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Speaker 1: of absolutely nothing. Okay, no, no, that's that's probably not

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Speaker 1: gonna work.

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Speaker 4: Joshua, is it?

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 3: No? Certainly, would you know? We like to We like

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Speaker 3: to joke that your typical liberal here in America, they

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Speaker 3: are NPR American's meaning they listen to National Public Radio NPR,

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Speaker 3: which of course takes federal federal money, despite their insistence

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Speaker 3: that they don't, and they believe what's on the radio.

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Speaker 3: And so people who believe whatever they're told by their

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Speaker 3: mainstream media news sources, they do, in fact believe that

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Speaker 3: very bad, very scary, very unsafe people are calling all

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Speaker 3: the shots now that we are teetering into a tortalitarian dictatorship,

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Speaker 3: and there's nothing they can do about it. So imagine

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Speaker 3: that that almost childish understanding of reality, that that that

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Speaker 3: worldview possesses the filter of reality that that worldview is. Now,

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Speaker 3: imagine you have this image very scary, very bad people.

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Speaker 3: Now imagine you over Thanksgiving tape, over the Thanksgiving meal

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Speaker 3: or any other time. Really you come along and imagine

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Speaker 3: you have all these facts and studies and data and

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Speaker 3: statistics in Department this and Elon Musk this and Vivip

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Speaker 3: promaswam me that and HEG Seth and Vance, and you

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Speaker 3: go through all of these different characters to understand the

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Speaker 3: vibe of that. The vibe is the very bad, very

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Speaker 3: scary people have all the facts on their side. What

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00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:33,920
Speaker 3: just happened? Their anxiety goes up, their resistance to you

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Speaker 3: goes up. All persuasion is self persuasion. Persuasion cannot happen

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Speaker 3: in a state of defensiveness. The more facts you bring,

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Speaker 3: the scarier you become, the higher of the wall between

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Speaker 3: you and them gets That's why we recommend agreeing with

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Speaker 3: their emotional state. Yeah, a lot of people are afraid

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Speaker 3: of Donald Trump. Yet a lot of people feel like

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Speaker 3: heg seth this advance, this vivet, that elon is a

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Speaker 3: lot of people really feel that way. You're right, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: And what can happen over time? Jack, I'm sure over

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Speaker 3: time you've seen how people can soften it up, warm

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Speaker 3: up and of their own volition go from TDS trump

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Speaker 3: rangement sent drome too. You know, did you see this?

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Speaker 3: I just saw this amazing thing that this guy did Trump. Wow,

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Speaker 3: I guess that's cool. And they won't they won't come

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Speaker 3: out and say I was wrong, because again, in the

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Speaker 3: social shaming frame, they can't admit to being wrong emotionally,

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Speaker 3: but they have to almost like a cat, think of

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Speaker 3: and this. I believe this is why metaphorically liberals attend

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Speaker 3: to be like the cat, the cat ladies, right, It's

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Speaker 3: because they almost have the countenance of a cat where

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Speaker 3: it comes around when it feels safe, allow them to

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Speaker 3: come around to you. I think that's all we're asking for,

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Speaker 3: right Jack.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's it's simple, right, And so you

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Speaker 1: you have this ability to kind of sit there and say, look,

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Speaker 1: it's like, I know we're not going because you have

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Speaker 1: to understand, all right, for a lot of these people,

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Speaker 1: especially millennials, but also a lot of gen xers. Gen

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Speaker 1: xers had the biggest swing, but there's a lot of

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Speaker 1: gen x's that have not swung. And they thought for

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Speaker 1: the last fifteen years that Barack Obama was the coolest

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Speaker 1: person in the world, that they were the smart ones,

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Speaker 1: that they were the cool ones, that they were the

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Speaker 1: best and the brightest. Well, of course I'm the best.

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Speaker 1: Of course I'm the most educated. Of course I'm the

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Speaker 1: most informed. I read the New York Times cover to

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Speaker 1: cover every day and I only listen to NPR when

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Speaker 1: I'm in my car. And to them, that's what being

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Speaker 1: well informed is, which they what they don't realize is,

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Speaker 1: of course that they are living in a bubble. They

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Speaker 1: were the ones in the echo chamber, and those people

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Speaker 1: just found out. They just found out that they're not

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Speaker 1: the majority anymore, that they are in fact the minority.

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Speaker 1: And so you'll get this is there's that book when

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Speaker 1: prophecy fails, that that describes a lot of what they're

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Speaker 1: going through right now. And you know, it's it's sort

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Speaker 1: of like now. Typically with with joy Reid, you'll get

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Speaker 1: doubling down. And so that's what you saw from her.

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Speaker 1: She's doubling down. She's saying, just shun them, they're wrong.

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Speaker 1: Rachel Maddow says, you have marching orders. What did Rachel

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Speaker 1: Matta say? You have marching orders from the universe.

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Speaker 4: You must resist, you must resist, you must.

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Speaker 1: Resist, just over and over and over, this is what

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Speaker 1: we must do in our time. And she's, you know,

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Speaker 1: playing it out like she's some sort of you know,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, resistance, like like she's in the Polish

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Speaker 1: resistance in World War two or something. Please please, by

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Speaker 1: the way, you'd be the one. All right, I'm not

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Speaker 1: gonna I'm not going to go there. I'm not going

651
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Speaker 1: to go there. But we saw how people acted during COVID.

652
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Speaker 1: That's all I'm going to say. That's all I'm going

653
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Speaker 1: to say. All Right, we saw people acted during COVID,

654
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Speaker 1: and that's all I'm going to say about that. But Joshua, No,

655
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Speaker 1: I think what it is with these people, you've got

656
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:54,879
Speaker 1: to find You've got to find an endpoint, right, You've

657
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:57,319
Speaker 1: got to and you can talk around it. You could say, oh,

658
00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:00,439
Speaker 1: I didn't expect this to happen, or yeah, things went

659
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 1: really well for us. And and honestly, I've seen a

660
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Speaker 1: lot of them I will say this, I've seen a

661
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Speaker 1: lot of them look at inflation and say, you know what,

662
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:10,839
Speaker 1: you know, inflation was really bad and that really did

663
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Speaker 1: hurt people.

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Speaker 4: And I think that's something where I don't know, josh

665
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Speaker 4: have you seen that?

666
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Speaker 3: Yes? Yes, I have, yes, and so.

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Speaker 1: There and so do you think that there's a way

668
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Speaker 1: by talking about inflation that there's a way to kind

669
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Speaker 1: of explain to people that you know, or at least

670
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Speaker 1: get them to open up about, Hey, maybe this is

671
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Speaker 1: why some of these other issues didn't matter so much.

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Speaker 3: I ironically know, I don't think so, because I tested

673
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Speaker 3: that work. If it work, you know what, you know

674
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:43,400
Speaker 3: what the response was, Well, CNN says that inflation.

675
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Speaker 4: Has come on. Oh wait, was that before or after

676
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Speaker 4: the election? Was that before after?

677
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Speaker 3: After?

678
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:54,880
Speaker 4: Oh?

679
00:39:55,040 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 3: Yes, Now I think that to plug our second book,

680
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:07,399
Speaker 3: Bulletproof a little bit. I think a more reasonable way

681
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:12,160
Speaker 3: to bring the person into a state of suggestibility to

682
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Speaker 3: you is to talk about the attentive assassination of Donald

683
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Speaker 3: Trump and with a question like can you imagine how

684
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Speaker 3: his wife Milania must have felt when she saw that?

685
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Speaker 3: Because we know from liberals. Liberals are focused on safety security,

686
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 3: almost like maternal instinct. Unfortunately, just the.

687
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Speaker 1: Fact that the story makes no sense, the fact that

688
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 1: the story makes no sense doesn't add up.

689
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:35,360
Speaker 4: At all, and it's like, look, we can all agree

690
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Speaker 4: on this. JFK. The story doesn't make any sense.

691
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 1: Trump and Butler, the story makes no sense whatsoever. These

692
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 1: are great and perfect examples of ways to just, you know,

693
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Speaker 1: you talk about the elephant in the room, but you

694
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Speaker 1: don't argue about it.

695
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:50,600
Speaker 2: We can do this, We can do this.

696
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:05,719
Speaker 3: Jack is a great guy.

697
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:07,359
Speaker 1: He's written at fantastic book.

698
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 4: Everybody's talking about it.

699
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:11,240
Speaker 3: Go get it that he spent my friend right.

700
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Speaker 1: From the beginning of this whole year and bla event,

701
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Speaker 1: and we're going to turn her around and make our

702
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Speaker 1: country yet him.

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Speaker 5: Amen.

704
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Speaker 1: Well, I was the perfect bumper for the segment here

705
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 1: because we were just going to talk about a subject

706
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:31,640
Speaker 1: that could be used to start a conversation about Trump

707
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 1: that isn't necessarily one that's going to hopefully lead to

708
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:39,960
Speaker 1: some you know, crazed debate. And that's these swirling questions

709
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:44,280
Speaker 1: about not one, but two assassination attempts that took place

710
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Speaker 1: on Donald Trump throughout the course of this election, one

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Speaker 1: of which in Butler, Pennsylvania July thirteenth, another one September

712
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 1: fifteenth in West Palm Beach. The individual, by the way,

713
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 1: goes on trial in February.

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Speaker 4: That was pushed back.

715
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Speaker 1: It was initially supposed to be the starting last week,

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Speaker 1: I believe, and they did push that back because and Joshua,

717
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:08,000
Speaker 1: you and I haven't even chatted about this yet because

718
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Speaker 1: I've been I've been running around doing the Game of

719
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 1: Throne stuff down at mar A Lago. But it's the

720
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Speaker 1: I did actually get a data dump on Ryan Wesley

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Speaker 1: Routh while I was down there. That one of the

722
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Speaker 1: reasons that they've had to push back the court date

723
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:27,959
Speaker 1: is because there is so much information on this guy,

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Speaker 1: and only information on him, but information on what he

725
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Speaker 1: was up to in Ukraine. Remember, the CIA had that

726
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 1: file that was on him that they passed over to

727
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Speaker 1: DHS right before he came back into the country, into Honolulu,

728
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:45,840
Speaker 1: and of course DHS let him pass anyway without actually

729
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Speaker 1: digging into it.

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Speaker 4: So what's in the file? What's in the file?

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Speaker 1: And by the way, I fully expect that whatever, whatever

732
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 1: really really dark stuff was in there is going to

733
00:42:57,239 --> 00:43:01,399
Speaker 1: be completely shredded by the time Trump and his administration

734
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Speaker 1: and his cabinet and Tulci Gabbard and everyone else get

735
00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 1: up there in the administration. But still, this guy's got

736
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Speaker 1: some really shady contact. So, Joshua, just, you know, kind

737
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 1: of open ended question, are there ways for people to go?

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Speaker 1: And of course everyone's gonna have to get themselves a

739
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Speaker 1: copy of Bulletproof. By the way, the audiobook for Bulletproof

740
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:25,640
Speaker 1: is completed. It is in post production, and it will

741
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Speaker 1: be available very very soon. We're shooting to have it

742
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Speaker 1: available by Christmas, or certainly, you know, certainly prior to Christmas.

743
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Speaker 1: And so, so, Joshua, how can people use the strange

744
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:41,480
Speaker 1: questions about the Trump assassination attempts to maybe open up

745
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:42,879
Speaker 1: a conversation with liberals?

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Speaker 3: Yes, so Bulletproof the book is written like a who

747
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 3: done it? Mystery? But of course it's entirely nonfiction and

748
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:54,040
Speaker 3: everybody loves a good mystory. That is what part of

749
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 3: that's the part of it is a political and the

750
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Speaker 3: fact that the story doesn't seem to make sense. How

751
00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:00,840
Speaker 3: could this guy have gotten that close? So, just like

752
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 3: you said, Jack, it's not about Trump, it's about the

753
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 3: story about Trump. So it is disassociated from the negative

754
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 3: feelings about Trump personally, and it's reassociating with a parallel story,

755
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 3: which is about the assassination attempt all the mysteries behind it.

756
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Speaker 3: So knowing that so many the liberals that are going

757
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:25,240
Speaker 3: to be in your lives, those of you watching right now,

758
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:29,760
Speaker 3: they are afraid. They're terrified. Many of them are petrified

759
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:32,239
Speaker 3: He's going to take all your rights away, is what

760
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:35,200
Speaker 3: the frame is that has been presented to them. And

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00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:37,839
Speaker 3: so to talk about Trump directly and throw fact back

762
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:40,880
Speaker 3: back back back, ah Vic scary Trump supporter has all

763
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:42,839
Speaker 3: the facts on their side. That's even worse. We all

764
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 3: go up, defensiveness gets stronger. Right, we want instead disassociated

765
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Speaker 3: from those triggers, to talk directly about the mystery of this.

766
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 3: How could that guy have gotten so close? And if

767
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 3: you know some of the details, you can speak to that.

768
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Speaker 3: Now there's a tip that we can repurpose from my

769
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Speaker 3: fellow hypnotist Scott Adams of the Simultaneous sip Fame every Day.

770
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 3: What he suggests that you align that you use with

771
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:10,480
Speaker 3: your liberal family members this Thanksgiving and those of you

772
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:11,840
Speaker 3: who are on the East coast he still got a

773
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 3: couple hours of the big Thanksgiving dinner, make sure you

774
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:18,719
Speaker 3: use this one. It is have you heard the counter argument? Well,

775
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:21,280
Speaker 3: have you heard the counter to that? Rather than just saying,

776
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 3: for example, they'll say, well, Thomas Matthew Crook's the Polish shooter.

777
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:29,920
Speaker 3: He was a registered Republican. So obviously if his own team,

778
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:32,200
Speaker 3: his own side hates him that much, well, that just

779
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 3: tells me everything I need to know. This is what

780
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:37,319
Speaker 3: they're going to say. Right, So instead of saying, actually no,

781
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:40,799
Speaker 3: and then you get defensive, that's not true. Instead you

782
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 3: can say, have you heard the counter to that? Which

783
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 3: is inviting curiosity?

784
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Speaker 4: This is absolutely genius.

785
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Speaker 3: And then because these NPR Americans think they're all that,

786
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:56,680
Speaker 3: they're smart, they're educated, they're over credentialed, of course, and

787
00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 3: they have some of the biggest pride you'll ever witness

788
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:04,520
Speaker 3: in your entire life, they will be no, what's the

789
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 3: counter because they need to know, because if you're more

790
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:10,279
Speaker 3: informed than they are, well, then your higher status. It's

791
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:13,160
Speaker 3: a it's a perpetual status game the NPR Americans are playing,

792
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:17,319
Speaker 3: and so is an invitation to have a conversation. And

793
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:20,400
Speaker 3: you can say, well, Thomas Matthew Crooks was a donor

794
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 3: for Act Blue, I'm a donor for Act Blue. But

795
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:28,160
Speaker 3: because the likelihood that they will in fact be donors

796
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Speaker 3: for Act Blue it's surprisingly high. Well wait a second,

797
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:34,399
Speaker 3: and then now you can you've got them off guard

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Speaker 3: a little.

799
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Speaker 1: Bit well or or what do you call it, the

800
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Speaker 1: smurfs for act mule for Smurfs and mules for Act Blue.

801
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Speaker 4: But we can we can talk about this somebot the time.

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Speaker 9: Indeed, oh yes, the Shenanigans associated with act has been

803
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:55,400
Speaker 9: taken into that. Yes, yes, and so facts about the

804
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 9: case about how suspicious, especially suspicious it is. It allows

805
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 9: you to disassociate him from their negative emotions around it

806
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:03,680
Speaker 9: and let them run wild. And then you will use

807
00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 9: the same tip that we had earlier in this show,

808
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:09,759
Speaker 9: which was anything that they say that it's just bonkers

809
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:14,960
Speaker 9: or frankly insulting. Again, give maximum emotional agreement and validation

810
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:17,760
Speaker 9: for the feeling. Oh yeah, yeah, a lot of people

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Speaker 9: feel like that, right, rhetoric has gone out of control. Yeah,

812
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 9: a lot of people feel like that the rhetorica is

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Speaker 9: causing real violence in this country.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, isn't that terrible? I mean, look, they shot Trump

815
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Speaker 3: over it, maybe a multiple times. Then they might they

816
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Speaker 3: what do you mean?

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Speaker 4: They yeah, right, yeah, And then you're saying.

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Speaker 3: And then in the book, we equip you early on

819
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Speaker 3: in Bulletproof, we equip you with quote after quote after

820
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Speaker 3: quote of Democrat leaders and celebrities wishing death upon Donald J.

821
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Speaker 3: Trump wishing death.

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Speaker 4: Look, of course they probably haven't heard of you.

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Speaker 1: This book is the perfect companium to go down the

824
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Speaker 1: rabbit hole of the who done it, of answering those

825
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:03,640
Speaker 1: questions about and asking more questions that people, you know,

826
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 1: presenting information that people don't even realize.

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Speaker 4: Look, just in our.

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Speaker 1: Final minute here, you know, I want to say to

829
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:12,359
Speaker 1: everybody out there, I hope you have a great Thanksgiving

830
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:16,720
Speaker 1: And just from a personal perspective, I hope that people

831
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Speaker 1: who have been living for the last fifteen years or

832
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:21,920
Speaker 1: so in this world can come back and say, you

833
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 1: know what, there's more to life than politics, and there's

834
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 1: human companionship, and there's relationships, and there's families, and maybe

835
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:29,520
Speaker 1: that's more important.

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Speaker 4: Joshua, what do you say?

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Speaker 3: Do give thanks for the opportunity to emotionally validate your

838
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:39,480
Speaker 3: mpre American family so that you can de escalate and

839
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:43,479
Speaker 3: eventually persuade them to wear MAGA hat.

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Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, as always, you have our permission to

841
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Speaker 1: lay sure