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Speaker 1: It's awkward.

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Speaker 2: It's Tuesday.

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Speaker 1: It's awkward Tuesday phone call. When do you think of

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Speaker 1: any TV sitcom? They're all based on misinterpretation.

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Speaker 2: What do you mean?

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Speaker 1: You know, like the girlfriend comes home and she goes, oh, sorry,

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Speaker 1: I'm late, honey. I just had a crazy experience with

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Speaker 1: some black ice, and the boyfriend jumps up and goes

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Speaker 1: some black guys.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's not what I said.

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Speaker 1: It's I mean, the same humor that they've had for

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Speaker 1: the last forty years.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it hurts, but it's true.

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Speaker 1: A lot of drama can come from a small misunderstanding,

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Speaker 1: which is why one of our listeners, Craig, needs our

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Speaker 1: help today because his girlfriend apparently didn't get a message

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Speaker 1: that he was trying to send. So Craig, welcome to

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Speaker 1: the show. What are your thoughts on black ice?

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Speaker 3: Very dangerous? Okay, I need to clarify, By the way,

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Speaker 3: the black ice is very dangerous.

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Speaker 1: Stuff on their own. Thanks for emailing the show. Tell

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Speaker 1: us who we're going to be calling today.

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Speaker 3: Uh, we're going to be calling my ex, well your

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Speaker 3: ex to be Yeah, I seem to be official. X.

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Speaker 4: Wait what we're calling your current girlfriend that you are

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Speaker 4: imagining breaking up?

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Speaker 2: With at this point.

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Speaker 3: I mean I kind of have already broke up with her,

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Speaker 3: but it's a problem, is Yeah, I don't think she

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Speaker 3: got the message or the point.

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Speaker 1: That's the message. She didn't, that's the misunderstanding. So tell

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Speaker 1: us what happened? I get, well, what what's her name?

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Speaker 3: Taylor? Taylor?

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Speaker 1: Okay, and so how did this misunderstanding come to be?

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Speaker 3: Uh? Well, so I recently moved to a new city.

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Speaker 3: I got an awesome job offer, and yeah, I just

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Speaker 2: Wait, and that was what you thought was breaking up

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I felt like she understood, Like I guess,

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Speaker 3: I never actually ended it, which I guess is now

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it just sounds like you were telling her like,

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Speaker 4: we can do this, but it's gonna be hard.

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Speaker 1: You know what was her reaction when you told her that?

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Speaker 3: She was very emotional, But you know, she did stay

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Speaker 3: over and nothing happened. Nothing happened, but it definitely felt,

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Speaker 3: this was going to be it. And she recently actually

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Speaker 3: sent me a text saying that she wants to surprise me.

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Speaker 3: She wants to come and see me, and she really excited,

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Speaker 2: That might not mean that she thinks that you're still together.

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Speaker 1: Like do you normally go and visit your exes immediately

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean I have in the past. I mean,

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Speaker 4: Is like so amicable, when it's like just distance, You're like, oh,

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Speaker 1: No, you guess that's not Craig's situation though.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. So she actually also sent me a text saying

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Speaker 3: like long distance is hard, but not impossible. Okay, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: that's where I'm like, she doesn't get it, she doesn't understand.

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Speaker 2: And how long have you guys been together?

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Speaker 3: We're together for like eight months, ok so it wasn't

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Speaker 1: But so she's going to come to visit you like

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Speaker 3: Yeah, probably in the next couple of weeks, And I

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Speaker 3: just I don't know how to tell her nicely to

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Speaker 3: like how to let her know that we're broken up,

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Speaker 3: because you know, I also met like a new person

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Speaker 3: We had drinks to our place, Like nothing happened, but

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Speaker 3: I do see potential. But there is like this you have.

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Speaker 5: To like clarify and know that she knows and everyone every.

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Speaker 1: So, yeah, because you don't want your ex showing up

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Speaker 1: and meanwhile you're flirting up with this other girl from

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Speaker 4: You having such a hard time being clear with her?

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Speaker 4: Like what are you concerned about?

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Speaker 3: I guess just because I don't want to be mean.

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Speaker 3: and now it's like let into this.

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Speaker 1: Just you're asking this show for help on how to

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Speaker 4: Then, No, I think that there's an easy way to

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Speaker 2: Reason you guys are forgetting I'm here, like you can

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Speaker 1: I'm a good run. You want to take a bullet,

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Speaker 1: that's possible. I has anybody in this room dealt with

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Speaker 1: a situation like this before? I'm so about it.

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Speaker 5: Actually, time I tried to break up with a girl

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Speaker 5: for a week after that we were actually broken up.

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Speaker 1: So what did you do?

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Speaker 5: I didn't do anything. We talked about it on the

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Speaker 5: show and she was like, oh, I found out that

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Speaker 5: we broke up because of the show.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, no, I told you.

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Speaker 1: We were also drunk.

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Speaker 2: Well, I hope she's still listening.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's gonna be hard to find a balance

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Speaker 1: we're broken up and don't come see.

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Speaker 2: Me, and she's just not going to like you after this.

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Speaker 4: I mean, you just have to accept that as part

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Speaker 2: I mean, you do.

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Speaker 1: I know Brooke clearly doesn't like you already.

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Speaker 2: I don't dislike him at all.

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Speaker 4: I'm just telling him, like, you can't be liked by everybody,

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Speaker 4: it's just not going to work.

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Speaker 1: I think you can be liked by everybody. And we're

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Speaker 1: going to try and figure out a way to do this. Okay,

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Speaker 1: we'll play a song come back, We'll give you a

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Speaker 1: awkward Tuesday phone call to your girlfriends soon to be

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Speaker 1: do it next. Okay, sounds good, right, hold on, it's awkward.

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Speaker 3: It's Tuesday.

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Speaker 1: It's awkward Tuesday. Phone call first, the worst, second, the best.

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Speaker 1: Isn't that the same personally? Usually it's for marriages, but

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Speaker 1: today we're gonna use it for breakups because the first

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Speaker 1: time Craig tried to break up with his girlfriend, now

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Speaker 1: he's looking back and realizing maybe I wasn't so clear

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Speaker 1: by just telling her. Long distance is gonna be tough. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So we're gonna try and help him today to make

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Speaker 1: it very, very clear to his ex girlfriend that they

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Speaker 1: are broken up. The hard part is for her not

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Speaker 1: to hate him for this.

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Speaker 4: Ye.

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Speaker 1: Craig told us that's his biggest concern. He doesn't want

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Speaker 1: her to be upset when we deliver the message, right, Craig.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I just seriously don't want to make

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Speaker 1: So okay, Well, let's ask an expert in conflict Brook

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Speaker 1: if she has any advice for you.

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Speaker 4: What do you think you know you tried to be

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Speaker 4: soft in general the first time. Fail.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it didn't work out.

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Speaker 1: You see how I mean she really is. She's like

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Speaker 1: am I right now?

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Speaker 4: I do feel for you because breaking up is hard,

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Speaker 4: but you're gonna have to be as direct as possible

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Speaker 4: because she's gonna be sad. That's what happens in a breakup.

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Speaker 4: No matter what you say, She's gonna be sad.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if I can do that, but I

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Speaker 3: mean I guess I could try.

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Speaker 1: Jose, did you have an idea?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I did so.

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Speaker 5: You said that your goal is her not to feel bad,

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Speaker 5: So I think that you need to make something up

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Speaker 5: to get hurt.

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Speaker 2: Mad at you.

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Speaker 5: You're gonna lie and then that way she may break

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Speaker 4: Or he could just be honest and say he's fallen

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Speaker 5: I thought of that, okay, And that means he has

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Speaker 5: two girls fighting for him. He'll be more valuable to

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Speaker 1: Experience, so we've either helped Craig out or we've thoroughly

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Speaker 1: confused him to the point that he doesn't want to

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Speaker 1: do anything. Anymore. But we're going to make the call

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Speaker 1: all right, we'll be here if you need us, but

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Speaker 1: good luck. Man. I'm dialing your number right now.

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Speaker 3: Hello, Hey, Taylor, what's up, Craig. Yeah, it's a new number.

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Speaker 3: I just it's kind of a new number. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 6: Okay, how are you?

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Speaker 4: What's up?

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Speaker 3: I'm good? How are you?

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Speaker 6: I'm good. I'm gonna actually look it up some activities

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Speaker 3: So here's the thing, like, I just I don't know

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Speaker 3: how to say this, but I just don't think it

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Speaker 6: Why.

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Speaker 3: That's a good question. So they're they're fumigating my apartment

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Speaker 3: and what they have to put me up in a hotel,

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Speaker 3: and I don't I don't think it would be a

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Speaker 3: good idea for you to stay with me because you

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Speaker 6: I won't be in a room with you. I won't

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Speaker 3: Well, your name's not going to be on the room.

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Speaker 3: So it could be like a liability or something. Probably won't.

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Speaker 6: No, I could like sneak in. I mean it actually

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Speaker 6: be a little romantic, like a little mystery.

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Speaker 3: Oh okay, but also there there's a parade. There's a

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Speaker 3: parade and they're shutting off the street.

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Speaker 6: What is happening?

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Speaker 3: Yes, well, so since they're shutting off the street, they're like,

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Speaker 3: won't be parking, you know, for you to there are

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Speaker 3: place for you to leave your car since you said

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Speaker 6: Oh well that's fine, I can. I can actually just

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Speaker 6: take the train. Are you sure about I was. I

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Speaker 6: was worried about putting the miles on my car anyway,

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Speaker 6: so yeah I could. Well I don't need parking.

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Speaker 3: Okay, you're just like not making this easy. So I

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Speaker 3: just needed to tell you that, Like I'm seeing another woman.

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Speaker 6: Here, Okay, you're you're you're lying.

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Speaker 3: I'm seeing to sell. It's just a it was a

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Speaker 3: weird situation. She's like a bikini model from Sweden. What Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: she asked me for directions a Swedish model. Yeah, bikini

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Speaker 4: She like that.

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Speaker 3: But we hit it off and like its just things

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Speaker 1: What was that. Hey, Taylor, I'm going to rescue you. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you're on the radio right now with Brooke and Jeffrey

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Speaker 1: in the morning.

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Speaker 5: We're all confused, just as you are, just so you know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I told you guys like I hate confrontation.

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Speaker 2: You didn't tell us that you made confrontation eight times worse.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, well I wasn't.

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Speaker 6: What's happening?

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Speaker 1: So good question, Taylor. Craig emailed our show because he

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Speaker 1: needed help breaking some hard news model, the Swedish model.

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Speaker 1: I can't even get into that that's Craig's deal. But

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Speaker 1: Craig wanted our help letting you know that he doesn't

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Speaker 1: think it's a good idea for you to come visit.

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Speaker 1: And Craig, you should probably tell her the real reason

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Speaker 1: right now, Like, be honest with you, all right, I

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Speaker 1: don't know what you're doing with the bikini model.

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Speaker 2: You cared about her feelings.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm just I was lying. I'm just trying to

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Speaker 3: be nice about this. Like so basically, since I moved

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Speaker 3: and with like the long distance thing just not working

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Speaker 3: for me. I just think it's over for us. I

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Speaker 3: just think we need to start new chapters in our life.

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Speaker 3: Like I'm in a new place, and that's basically it. Like,

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Speaker 3: I just I don't think we should continue our relationship anymore.

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Speaker 6: Wow, okay, and you bring me on the radio to

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Speaker 6: tell me this. Thank you?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, sorry about that, Taylor. I hope you're okay. I mean, honestly,

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Speaker 4: from what Craig just said in the last two minutes,

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Speaker 4: I think you're better off personally.

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Speaker 5: But who believes a model walked up like, excuse me,

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Speaker 5: I mean bikini? Where is Third Street?

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Speaker 3: And he was just like, uh, maya bart.

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Speaker 1: I thought it was a dad.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, are you doing okay? Taylor?

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Speaker 6: I mean, in a way, I'm kind of relieved.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I think that's right.

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Speaker 6: I mean I absolutely met somebody, and I was a

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Speaker 6: little hesitant to go further with it.

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Speaker 5: No, wait a minute, you met somebody romantically?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what the hell are you serious? So while you

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Speaker 3: thought we were to still together, you were with somebody else.

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Speaker 6: Okay, you not what I was saying. That's not what

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Speaker 6: I said. I said that I met somebody and I

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Speaker 6: was interested, but I was a little hesitant because I

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Speaker 6: thought we were together. But now that obviously you're breaking

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Speaker 6: up with me on radio, Wow, we should go We.

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Speaker 3: Thought about pursuing somebody else.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, this looks like a dream come true for you.

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Speaker 4: I thought, I'm laughing because Craig obviously thought he was

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Speaker 4: so important in Taylor's life that she was going to

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Speaker 4: be crushed.

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Speaker 2: And when, now, Craig, you learned it that's not true.

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Speaker 2: That's a hard truth pill for you to take, isn't it.

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Speaker 3: No, she was with me and she was okay. And

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Speaker 3: she could have definitely said that in a nicer way

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Speaker 3: and said she just came out and said it, like, Wow.

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Speaker 2: This turned out way better than we expected.

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Speaker 6: I mean, I wasn't prepared for any of this, but

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Speaker 6: I'm glad that I'm getting some closure and I can

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Speaker 6: go ahead with Mark and Craig.

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Speaker 1: Now you can actually move on with the real woman

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Speaker 1: that you actually met in your apartment.

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Speaker 3: I actually made that up to you guys too. And

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Speaker 3: I'm not saying anybody

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Speaker 2: Else you work on you, Craig, you work on