1 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:10,799 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, Podcasts, Radio News. Good morning, I'm Nathan 2 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 1: Hager and I'm Karen Moscow. Here are the stories we're 3 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 1: following today. 4 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:17,640 Speaker 2: Karen, we begin with politics and a major move by 5 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:21,160 Speaker 2: President Biden. Less than two months before he leaves office. 6 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:24,759 Speaker 2: The President has reversed course and signed a sweeping pardon 7 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 2: order for his son Hunter. We get more from Bloomberg 8 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 2: News Senior editor Bill Ferries. 9 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:32,560 Speaker 3: For Hunter Biden, it really wipes the slate clean for 10 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 3: basically the entire past decade. So that includes these gun 11 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 3: and tax charges that he had been convicted on in 12 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:43,559 Speaker 3: some cases and pled guilty on and others, and it 13 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 3: also includes anything if there was anything out there that 14 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 3: perhaps the legal system hadn't found at this point. It 15 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 3: is really a complete and total pardon for all activities 16 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 3: against the breaking US law since January twenty fourteen. 17 00:00:56,800 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 2: Bloomberg's Bill Ferries says the President reversed his previous stand 18 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 2: that he would not use executive powers to aid his son. 19 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 2: He justified the pardon by saying the case against Hunter 20 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:09,759 Speaker 2: was politically tinged, excessive, and designed to break him and 21 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 2: his son Well Nathan. 22 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:15,400 Speaker 1: Reaction is pouring into the Hunter Biden pardon. Former federal 23 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:19,040 Speaker 1: prosecutor LORII Levinson says it should not be a surprise. 24 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:22,839 Speaker 4: I think everyone needs to recognize that with the broad 25 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:26,680 Speaker 4: power that presidents have to issue pardons, they will use 26 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:29,120 Speaker 4: them for family members and they will use them for 27 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 4: close friends because the Constitution gives them this broad pardon power. 28 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 1: Former federal prosecutor Louri Levinson says Hunter Biden was found 29 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 1: guilty of gun charges by a federal court in Delaware 30 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:44,320 Speaker 1: earlier this year. His sentencing in that case was set 31 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 1: to take place next Thursday. 32 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 2: Mc karen President, like Donald Trump, is criticizing Biden's decision. 33 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 2: In a post on his Truth social platform, Trump said, quote, 34 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 2: does the pardon given by Joe to Hunter include the 35 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 2: j six hostages who have now been imprisoned for years 36 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:00,559 Speaker 2: such an abuse and miscarriage justice? 37 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 5: End quote? 38 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 1: Well, Nathan and Debate is brewing in Washington over President 39 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 1: elect Trump naming Cash Betel to take over the FBI. 40 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:12,079 Speaker 1: Patel has been outspoken against the FBI's investigation into possible 41 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 1: Russian collusion with Trump's twenty sixteen campaign. Republican Senator Mike 42 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 1: Grounds notes Trump and nominated the current FBI director Chris Ray, 43 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:23,920 Speaker 1: and he still has three years left on his term. 44 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 6: Once they've been nominated by the president, then the president 45 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 6: gets the benefit of the doubt on the nomination. But 46 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 6: we still go through a process, and that process includes 47 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:38,800 Speaker 6: advice and consent, which for the Senate means advice or consent. 48 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:39,639 Speaker 5: Sometimes. 49 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 1: Republican Senator Mike Grounds is a guest on ABC's This 50 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 1: Week Hear It's Sundays on Bloomberg Radio and Karen. 51 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 2: President elect Trump is bringing someone that he has pardoned 52 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 2: into his administration, nominating Charles Kushner as US ambassador to France. 53 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:57,639 Speaker 2: The President elect praised Kushner as a tremendous business leader, philanthropist, 54 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:01,080 Speaker 2: and deal maker. Kushner is the father of of Jared Kushner, 55 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 2: Trump's son in law and former senior advisor. He served 56 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:07,360 Speaker 2: two years in prison for filing false tax returns, witness retaliation, 57 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:10,639 Speaker 2: and making false statements to the Federal Trade Commission. Trump 58 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 2: pardoned Kushner near the end of his first term. 59 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:16,359 Speaker 1: He can President elect Trump is issuing a tariff threat 60 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 1: against the so called bricks and nations if they try 61 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 1: to move away from the dollar. In a post on 62 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 1: truth Social Trump repeated a threat of one hundred percent 63 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 1: tariffs unless the Bricks promise not to create a new 64 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 1: currency or back any other currency to replace the US dollar. 65 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 7: The Group of. 66 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 1: Emerging Market nations that include Brazil, Russia, India, China and 67 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:40,119 Speaker 1: South Africa discussed the dollarization at a summit last year. 68 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 1: Despite the group's rhetoric, the infrastructure that backs the dollar, 69 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 1: such as cross border payments, will likely give the green 70 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 1: back the edge for decades to come. 71 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 2: Well Karen. Politics is also a major focus overseas. Marine 72 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 2: Le Penn's National Rally party in France has threatened to 73 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 2: support a no confidence motion against the French government unless 74 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 2: Prime Minister Mishall Barnier makes changes to next year's budget, 75 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 2: But Francis Finance Minister Antoine Armand tells Bloomberg News they 76 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 2: will not accept artificial budget deadlines from the pen. 77 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 8: The French government doesn't take in tim atoms. It's looking 78 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 8: at the French parliamentary debate. It's respecting each and every 79 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 8: parliamentary debate that leads to an evolution. We will take 80 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:26,480 Speaker 8: into account what is changing, but we won't be blackmailed. 81 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:28,920 Speaker 8: We are committed to reduce the deficit. 82 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:32,479 Speaker 2: French finance Minister and tuin Armand spoke with Bloomberg's Carolinkna 83 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 2: and stocks in France right now are down seven tenths 84 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 2: of one percent. 85 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 1: Let's turn to the markets now, Nathan, and stocks begin 86 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 1: the last month of the year in record of fashion. 87 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 1: The S and P five hundred rows five points seven 88 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 1: percent in November, its best month this year, as investors 89 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 1: plout one hundred and forty one billion dollars into US equities. 90 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 1: So far this year, the S and P five hundred 91 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:55,679 Speaker 1: is up twenty six and a half percent. 92 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:59,599 Speaker 2: Right now, shares of Stalantis are down eight and a 93 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:04,159 Speaker 2: half percent. The automaker's chief executive officer, Carlos Tavares, is 94 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:07,480 Speaker 2: stepping down. More on that story from Bloomberg's Denise Pellegrini. 95 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 5: Tavaris is quitting after prophet slumped and US sales weekened 96 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 5: at the maker of gpsuvs and Fiat cars, and temporarily 97 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 5: the automaker will be run by an interim committee headed 98 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:23,160 Speaker 5: by Chairman John elkenn Stillentis says a new CEO will 99 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:25,479 Speaker 5: be named in the first half of this coming year. 100 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 5: Company also says tavares views on the carmaker's future differed 101 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 5: from those of the board and some shareholders, and Stillentis 102 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 5: is confirming its financial guidance for the year. Bloomberg News 103 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:38,360 Speaker 5: reported in October Elkenn had begun a process to find 104 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 5: a successor to Tavaris, but Tavaris later told reporters he 105 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:44,479 Speaker 5: would stay on until the end of his mandate in 106 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:54,160 Speaker 5: early twenty twenty six. Denise Pellogrene Bloomberg Radio. 107 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 1: And it's time now for a look at some of 108 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:55,279 Speaker 1: the other stories making news in New York and around 109 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 1: the world. And for that we're joined by Bloomberg's Michael Barr. Michael, 110 00:05:58,240 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 1: Good Morning, Good Morning. 111 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 9: Karen is increasing pressure on President elect Trump to work 112 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:06,839 Speaker 9: with President Biden and Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahoo to free 113 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 9: hostages in gazap In a new video, American Israeli hostage Iniden, 114 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:16,280 Speaker 9: Alexander asked Trump for help, and his father Addie Alexander 115 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 9: spoke Sunday at a rally held in Central Park in 116 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:20,279 Speaker 9: New York City. 117 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 3: President Biden, President Trump, Prime Minister in Chinio. 118 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 5: I call on all of you to act. 119 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:31,839 Speaker 8: This is not a moment for politics or hesitations. 120 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:36,359 Speaker 9: Aldi Alexander says, no father should hear his child plead 121 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:40,839 Speaker 9: for his life like that. Meanwhile, a fragile ceasefire between 122 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 9: Israel and Hesbilan Lebanon remained in effect overnight. Overnight snowfall 123 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 9: is buried western New York and Pennsylvania. One town in 124 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 9: upstate New York already is seeing nearly fifty nine inches 125 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:57,840 Speaker 9: of snow. Frigid air that's passing over the relatively warm 126 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:03,040 Speaker 9: lake that triggered alerts and emergency declarations. In Erie, Pennsylvania. 127 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 9: The National Guard was called up to rescue stranded drivers, 128 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 9: where even plow drivers got stuck. Crews including the US 129 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 9: Coast Guard in Alaska, searching the cold waters southwest of 130 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 9: Juneo for five people who are reporting that their fishing 131 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 9: boat was overturning. High winds and heavy snow was reported 132 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 9: in the search area. Coast Guard spokesman Petty Officer John 133 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 9: Highttower says they received an urgent distress caller from those 134 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 9: aboard the fifty foot boat. 135 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 10: It was a media report from the members of this 136 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 10: vessel that's currently being searched for. They reported that the 137 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 10: vessel was overturning and that was all they got. Any 138 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 10: further attempts to reach the vessel. We were not responded 139 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 10: to the Coast Guards. 140 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 9: John high Tower says the boat's GPS emergency beacon led 141 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 9: them to the area now being searched. New information about 142 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 9: a security breach at one of New York's busiest airports 143 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 9: during the Thanksgiving travel rush. Thirty say a stowaway discovering 144 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 9: on board a Delta flight out of JFK to Paris 145 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 9: is a Russian national who lives in the US and 146 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 9: had not purchased a plane ticket. The woman remains in 147 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 9: custody in France. Official say she somehow bypassed the document 148 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 9: check podium and the gate agent at JFK. Global News 149 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 9: twenty four hours a day and whenever you want it 150 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 9: with Bloomberg News Now. I'm Michael Baron. 151 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 1: This is Bloomberg Karent, Michael Barr. 152 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 5: Welcome back. It's good to have you. 153 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 9: Thank you. 154 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:32,319 Speaker 5: Yeah, nice to do. 155 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 1: Time now for the Bloomberg Sports update brought to you. 156 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 1: I try state Audie. Here's John stash Hour, John, good morning. 157 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 7: The morning hearing. Today is Aaron Rodgers's forty first birthday 158 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 7: yesterday at midlife, and for much of this season he 159 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 7: has looked rather old, though he did throw a pair 160 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 7: of touchdown passes in the first quarter against Seattle. Rodgers 161 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:56,839 Speaker 7: also threw one in the second quarter that he'd liked 162 00:08:56,840 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 7: to have Backritz is. 163 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 5: Coming through inside this kickoff. 164 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 1: Cleio Williams coming near sign. He's running like a race horse. 165 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 5: He's at big field. 166 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 1: Turnto philf Blockers, Holy should you kipping? Leo Williams. 167 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 9: He's gonna take it in for a touchdown. 168 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 7: Cheyhawks Hi rode the Coe Williams the ex Jet with 169 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 7: a ninety two yard return, the longest NFL history by 170 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 7: a defensive lineman. The Seahawks came from fourteen down took 171 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:25,200 Speaker 7: their first lead with five and a half minutes left. 172 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:28,560 Speaker 7: They beat the Jets twenty six twenty one in the snow. 173 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 7: In Buffalo, the Bills beat forty nine ers thirty five 174 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:33,440 Speaker 7: to ten. The Bills have already clinched the AFC East. 175 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:35,960 Speaker 7: Eighth straight win for Philadelphia twenty four to nineteen at 176 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 7: Baltimore State, Huon Barkley again over one hundred yards at 177 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:41,560 Speaker 7: a twenty five yard TD run in the fourth quarter. 178 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 7: Washington ended a three game losing the streak of forty 179 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 7: two to nineteen round of Tennessee, Minnesota with its second 180 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:49,720 Speaker 7: five game win streak came from thirteen down, scored late, 181 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 7: beat Arizona by a point. The Patriots lost by a 182 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 7: point a game with seven lead changes Indianapolis a game 183 00:09:56,559 --> 00:09:59,599 Speaker 7: winning eighty yard nineteen play drive at a TV and 184 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:03,199 Speaker 7: two point conversion with twelve seconds left. Next back over 185 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 7: the long road trip started a four game homestand on 186 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 7: one to eighteen to eighty five blowout of New Orleans. 187 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 7: Mckel bridges at his best game as a Nick, thirty 188 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:13,320 Speaker 7: one points. He made seven threes at Barkley's Orlando bet 189 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 7: the Nets one hundred and ninety two. The Mets have 190 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:18,720 Speaker 7: a deal to sign free agent piccher Frankie Montas two years, 191 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 7: thirty four million. The Yankees acquired Montass from Oakland at 192 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 7: the twenty twenty two trade deadlomit. He only won one 193 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:25,840 Speaker 7: game in eight starts. He was hurt for all but 194 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 7: one start in twenty three. Split this past season with 195 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:30,960 Speaker 7: the Reds and Brewers from college football. West Virginia and 196 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 7: Perdue fired their coaches. Purdue just went one and eleven. 197 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:36,719 Speaker 7: John Stanshawer Bloomberg Sports Karena Nathan all. 198 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 1: Right, John, thank you, SMP futures down two tenths of 199 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:41,680 Speaker 1: a percent down thirteen points down, futures down a tenth 200 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 1: of upper cent or fifty two points. Nasdaq futures down 201 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 1: two tenths of up percent or forty eight points. Ten 202 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 1: year Treasury yield four point two zero percent. 203 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 9: Coast to Coast on Bloomberg Radio nationwide on Sirius XM, 204 00:10:56,720 --> 00:10:59,560 Speaker 9: and around the world on Bloomberg dot Com and the 205 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 9: bloom We're Business app. 206 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 5: This is Bloomberg Daybreak. 207 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 11: Good Morning. 208 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:06,680 Speaker 2: I'm Nathan Hager. It is a major reversal for a 209 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 2: president who has said four months that he would not 210 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 2: use his pardon powers to benefit family, even his own son. 211 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 6: I am satisfied that I'm not going to do anything. 212 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:19,199 Speaker 6: I said, I adviye by the jury decision. 213 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 5: I will do that and I will not partner. 214 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:24,200 Speaker 2: That was President Biden at the G seven back in 215 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 2: June talking about his son Hunter. But last night the 216 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 2: President did indeed issue a sweeping pardon on taxing gun charges, 217 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 2: saying in a statement, no reasonable person could conclude that 218 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:37,560 Speaker 2: his son Hunter was singled out for any other reason 219 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:40,200 Speaker 2: than that he is the President's son. For more, we 220 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 2: are joined by Bloomberg's Kevin Whitelaw. Kevin I guess the 221 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 2: overarching question this morning is why now good morning, Yeah. 222 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:50,960 Speaker 11: Good morning, Nathan. You know, I think that you know, 223 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 11: it became very clear that President Biden is increasingly worried 224 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:59,720 Speaker 11: about what would happen to his son and under a 225 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:03,680 Speaker 11: true presidency. You know, we have already seen a situation 226 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 11: where president uh uh elect Trump has you know, stated 227 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 11: that he's he thinks that the Justice Department was sort 228 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 11: of weaponized against him, uh, citing the various prosecutions and 229 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 11: investigations into into several different aspects of Trump's first term 230 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:25,559 Speaker 11: and surrounding events. 231 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 1: Uh. 232 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:30,840 Speaker 11: And he's with a set of loyalists that he's been 233 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:33,679 Speaker 11: appointed to these key positions and and and talking about 234 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:37,720 Speaker 11: installing I think, uh, the President Biden just decided that 235 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 11: he couldn't take the risk that his son was going 236 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 11: to be part of sort of some ongoing uh set 237 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 11: of uh probes, challenges, prosecutions, et cetera. It just creates 238 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 11: an enormous challenge though for for Democrats who are who 239 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:53,839 Speaker 11: are already very worried about how they were going to make, 240 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 11: you know, sort of apply the rule of law in 241 00:12:56,040 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 11: in and hold a second Trump term administration into account. 242 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 2: That puts this into the context then of President elect 243 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 2: Trump nominating a loyalist, Cash Patel to be his next 244 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:12,439 Speaker 2: FBI director, Does that go into that context? 245 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 7: Then? 246 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 11: Yeah, I think it does. I think when you start 247 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:18,680 Speaker 11: to look at the some of the remarks that whether 248 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 11: it's Kash Patel, obviously the Matt Gates appointment for Attorney 249 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 11: General didn't didn't work out, but Pam BONDI, these are 250 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 11: extreme loyalists. And Trump has talked about wanting to, you know, 251 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:35,200 Speaker 11: have that Justice Department be more responsive to the kinds 252 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:37,560 Speaker 11: of things that he thinks it should be. And when 253 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 11: you have a set of people who have made it 254 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 11: very clear that they think that there's more wrongdoing to 255 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 11: be found. These are for a number of the people 256 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:47,720 Speaker 11: that he's appointed and surrounded himself with. I've talked for 257 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:50,200 Speaker 11: a very long time about the Hunter Biden case and 258 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 11: with all kinds of allegations of deeper corruption, et cetera, 259 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 11: none of which they've really ever been able to substantiate, 260 00:13:57,520 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 11: but obviously that wouldn't necessarily stopped them from using it. 261 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:03,679 Speaker 11: And that really is a big difference in how the 262 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 11: Justice Department has been run for the past couple of decades, 263 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:10,680 Speaker 11: and you know, ever since the next administration had really 264 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 11: been a sense that this needed to be a bit 265 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:15,960 Speaker 11: of a hens sort of a distance, of a distance 266 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:17,840 Speaker 11: between the White House and the Justice Department, of a 267 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 11: little bit of an independence. After all, the Justice Department 268 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 11: under Joe Biden is the one that investigated Hunter Biden, right, 269 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 11: So there was a sense that that's what could happen. 270 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 11: But Trump has talked about it in ways that are 271 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 11: extremely different, And now it's going to be a challenge 272 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:37,640 Speaker 11: even more so for Democrats who've kind of lost a 273 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 11: little bit of the moral high ground they may have 274 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 11: otherwise had on this issue. 275 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 2: YEA, for President Biden to say that no reasonable person 276 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 2: could conclude but that the case against his son was 277 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 2: politically motivated, does that add more fuel to the argument 278 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 2: that the President delect has been making that the justice 279 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 2: system has been tainted by politics. Got about a minute left. 280 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean, I do think that it at least 281 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 11: gives him the to make that case more and it's 282 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 11: one more argument that the Democrats and others would have 283 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 11: to would have to try to push back at. But 284 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 11: we have seen continued complaints from Trump and his aides 285 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 11: about what they see as a politicized Justice Department. But 286 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 11: obviously it now seems like they want to try to 287 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 11: use it for their own purposes. You know. Of course, 288 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 11: it's not like Biden invented the pardon power. 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