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Speaker 1: Mm hmmm, mm hmmm.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back, all the smoke coming to you from Miami, Jack,

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Speaker 2: where we're at what you call this ship, Lake Plastic,

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Speaker 2: Lake Placid, thirteen gators.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna I keep looking back. I know why. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I keep being that water move And we just want

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Speaker 3: to give you.

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Speaker 2: Guys a heads up. Man, were in the element right now.

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Speaker 2: There's motherfucking airplanes flying over the traffic back.

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Speaker 4: But we in the element.

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Speaker 3: Plan from cocaine cowboys too. We got some right there.

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Speaker 2: Some bells just got dropped in in the lake, hey, man,

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Speaker 2: But we got a we got a really good one.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 2: I came down to Miami early and played in college

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Speaker 2: tournament and ran into my brother yesterday or the night

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Speaker 2: before and just chopped it up and kicked it and

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Speaker 2: asked if he would bless us with his presence today, man,

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Speaker 2: And he said, hell, yeah, So I want to welcome

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Speaker 2: to the show.

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Speaker 4: Man, spend my morning.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, how's life? I mean, kids are doing well, family,

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Speaker 2: what's going on?

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Speaker 5: It couldn't be any happier except for, you know, with

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Speaker 5: the hurricane situation. Outside of that, you know, but other

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Speaker 5: than that, we're very very happy. My son Y g

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Speaker 5: Molly it's an excellent year this year. You know, he's

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Speaker 5: been at it for a long time, grinding, so it's

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Speaker 5: nice when the kids flourish. My son Nico, they work together,

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Speaker 5: they managed together. One of my brothers works with him,

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Speaker 5: so it's nice, you know. And then my daughters they're

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Speaker 5: doing their thing again.

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Speaker 4: My one of my my.

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Speaker 5: Eldest daughters, she's kind of the person who managed my

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Speaker 5: kind of tell me what to do what not.

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Speaker 3: Know.

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Speaker 4: The children are in my life very very much.

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Speaker 5: I every day at two o'clock ago get my little

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Speaker 5: son from school. That is which is nice. I have

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Speaker 5: to stop everything for that. So life is moving and living.

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Speaker 5: Just launched a new relationship here in Florida with gold Flower,

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Speaker 5: bringing line or the cannabis brand to Florida. So we're

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Speaker 5: excited about that. You know, Marley Coffee, I'm trying to

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Speaker 4: So that's what's happening, bro.

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Speaker 5: You know, I'm re enterprising the family legacy here because

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Speaker 5: we got here in nineteen seventy six.

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Speaker 4: We go to Bales right.

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Speaker 2: There, right now, he said, drop one in the ards.

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Speaker 3: Make sure y'all edit that out, and I go pick

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Speaker 3: it up. I know what to do with it.

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Speaker 2: That's what's happening bro the legacy in the fair. We're

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Speaker 2: going to get to that. But I want to talk

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Speaker 2: to you about about fatherhood because the way you smile

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Speaker 2: and your energy when you talk about your kids, I

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Speaker 2: could tell a special you know what I mean? We

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Speaker 2: eight that you're claiming. I mean, what is it like

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Speaker 2: to see your children and see them grow and flourish

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Speaker 2: and succeed and become young men and women? What's that

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Speaker 2: meant for you?

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Speaker 3: Well?

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Speaker 4: You know I have twelve children. I didn't have many.

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Speaker 4: Get twelve children?

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Speaker 2: Oh you get okay, I get how many? How many

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Speaker 2: did you have?

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Speaker 4: I don't have none. Oh the woman have man?

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Speaker 3: Get respect? Respect?

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Speaker 2: But you know how mean did you make?

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Speaker 4: Help help make twelve and nine grand children?

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 5: So that is the most joyful thing in life. So

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Speaker 5: that's why sometimes when people say, man, have you been here?

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Speaker 4: Have you been there?

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Speaker 5: I said, no, kind of like being home, like being

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Speaker 5: I want to go to the old school way. Because

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Speaker 5: old school way, right, You're not like in Jamaica. You know,

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Speaker 5: sure is there is that you can't find me at home,

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Speaker 5: And so I want to be that kind of person

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Speaker 4: You know, if you just go to my house, I'm there.

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Speaker 4: I'm there. I want to that.

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Speaker 5: So it's more about the family and those things, you know,

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Speaker 5: and thus dealing everyday life with children, not I mean

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Speaker 5: have your relationship with woman, and whether you're a man

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Speaker 5: mean you have age you have to take on certain responsibility.

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Speaker 5: So them, if I can't tell you who to date

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Speaker 5: who not to date, I don't.

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Speaker 4: I only can just reasoning with you, you know.

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Speaker 5: So I tried to show my older children them my

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Speaker 5: just know that I said this, so you can always

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Speaker 5: trying to govern it because you have to be realistic

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Speaker 5: in teaching right that has to come over standing. So

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Speaker 5: no matter how much it's like it's like it's like

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Speaker 4: You know, you don't get it the first time. It's repetitive.

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Speaker 4: And even with the older ones, you have to tell them, said, listen,

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Speaker 4: I told you that's the Lucid Lake. I told you that.

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Speaker 4: I totally keep checking.

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Speaker 5: You dig what I'm saying. So you got to keep

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Speaker 5: telling them, he that's Lucia Lake. Don't go out there,

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Speaker 5: Oh daddy, but oh but daddy, it looks so cool today.

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Speaker 3: Mm hmmm.

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Speaker 4: All right, so you got to keep on, you know.

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Speaker 4: So that's just showing.

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Speaker 5: The teaching is when I have to hold the hands,

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Speaker 5: you know, when I get a certain age and more,

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Speaker 5: no more holding hands. So I'm it's joyful to see

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Speaker 5: that they're within the frequency, you know, and they overstand

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Speaker 5: that Father represents a certain way of life. Father deal

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Speaker 4: It wants to represent a higher self.

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Speaker 5: So when they when I give them those type of things,

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Speaker 5: I want them to relate to that.

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Speaker 4: Not by force, but by example and over yes.

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Speaker 5: So so sometimes you know they might see that He's

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Speaker 5: still that is always whom but you know, it's just

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Speaker 5: I'm always happy at home. So it's a it's a journey.

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Speaker 5: So here's how I got here.

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Speaker 4: And come on, you know.

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Speaker 2: I mean, come on that, not this, Come on, understand

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Speaker 2: when that?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you understand when so, but I don't, you know,

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Speaker 4: I'm not too rough on.

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Speaker 2: Them, miss Lauren. Here you had babies with and and

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Speaker 2: and I read something that.

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Speaker 4: You like prince and princesses.

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Speaker 2: You felt that it was your responsibility and and you

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Speaker 2: weren't able to show her how you with it felt

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Speaker 2: when it didn't end up working out, did you put

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Speaker 2: some blame on your heavy blame on yourself when.

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Speaker 4: No, not, no, not blame on myself.

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Speaker 5: I mean it's it's not say in the workout, you know,

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Speaker 5: because in life, right, people must have independence, you know,

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Speaker 5: and it's what it is, somewhere more independent than some.

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Speaker 5: And at times you have to allow a person to

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Speaker 5: you know, meaning that during that time that you're present,

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Speaker 5: you're bringing awakening. You know, you also bring a frequency,

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Speaker 5: you bring a direction, and that direction can spark energy

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Speaker 5: in that person because that person is what that person

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Speaker 5: is from the beginning of time, so that energy.

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Speaker 4: Can spark a direction.

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Speaker 5: So you can't you can't be you know, when you

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Speaker 5: SOO also have to create foundation. Two as a king,

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Speaker 5: he did so the queen now have her foundation and

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Speaker 5: you know what I mean, it's like a home, right,

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Speaker 5: you know, when I go to Ethiopia and I learned

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Speaker 5: Empress Omega. I realized that the home, the king bed

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Speaker 5: not really it's no, I don't remember what you said before,

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Speaker 5: but I'm going to tell you how it is. It's

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Speaker 5: not really any separation. It's just a way of life

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Speaker 5: and a journey of life. Because we are still great

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Speaker 5: mothers and fathers to our children, where we speak all

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Speaker 5: the time, were very much active in communicating together, you

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Speaker 5: know what I mean, And realizing the benefit of mother

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Speaker 5: and father and what father represents, what mother represents. But

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Speaker 5: what I mean, so I can support my children because

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Speaker 5: you know. So I after account of just sit.

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Speaker 4: There and just can come on.

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Speaker 2: I could, but I can't.

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Speaker 5: Yeah you did, I mean, yeah, So make sure stability

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Speaker 5: is there, and the queen have our domain where she rules,

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Speaker 5: such and such. So there's never a separation. It's just life.

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Speaker 5: We always communicate.

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Speaker 2: How'd you guys meet?

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Speaker 5: We met in nineteen ninety six, right after I left college.

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Speaker 4: I wanted to do something again.

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Speaker 5: So when I when I left football, I want I

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Speaker 5: was trying to figure out what am I to do

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Speaker 5: want to do something that I can do forever.

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Speaker 4: Football I didn't think I can do it forever. So

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Speaker 5: I stopped my passion for that to change, but I

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Speaker 5: felt like I can play soccer forever. So I decided

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Speaker 5: to move back to Jamaica. Move forward into Jamaica. But

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Speaker 5: when I go to Jamaica, I am going there to

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Speaker 5: be with my family, my brothers because this is six

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Speaker 5: so ninety five. Now I leave ninety five, I leave school.

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Speaker 5: Ninety five would play Orange Bowl. Right after that, I

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Speaker 5: flied to Hate. My son, Nika was born. After I

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Speaker 5: tell the University of Mim I'm done with football and

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Speaker 5: not coming back as a junior. I tell my brothers

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Speaker 5: that I'm done with this thing. No, I'm playing football

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Speaker 5: no more. It's like, what you mean? I said, Yeah,

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Speaker 5: as I'm coming to Jamaica and I'm gonna be a roadie.

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Speaker 5: So I took that job as a roadie. So while

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Speaker 5: I was on the road, we have a smoking Grooves

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Speaker 5: and the Fujis are on that tour and Miss Lauren

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Speaker 5: hell is on that tour as.

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Speaker 4: Well as you know, the Fuji and my brothers.

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Speaker 5: So one day I am I heard this voice.

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Speaker 4: I'm on the bus because I'm security.

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Speaker 5: I'm really, I'm security for my brothers and I'm I'm

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Speaker 4: Hey, no one stands on business like miss Lauren.

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Speaker 2: And at so as you say, that's how you guys met,

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Speaker 3: Are you there?

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Speaker 4: No, at that time, I'm just being self. I don't

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Speaker 4: At that time, I used to because ras them times.

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Speaker 4: She gives them the sound.

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Speaker 5: She because you know, it's almost like, you know, I

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Speaker 4: My favorite playing on the E card on the keyboard. Bang.

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Speaker 5: I dropped that bang bang, And she's like, okay, give

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Speaker 3: Of the way like a piece to the puzzle.

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Speaker 5: Every step of the way. So when they when those

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Speaker 5: of how it started out, man. With with miss Lauren Hill,

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Speaker 4: A true artist, a Picasso.

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Speaker 5: So when you ask about why certain things that she

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Speaker 5: But you know, I come from that. I listen every day.

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Speaker 5: being around her and watching her create the misidication of

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Speaker 5: Lauren Hill, it was just magical, man. And those days

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Speaker 5: I can always remember those days, man, and going into Jamaica,

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Speaker 4: And always listening, you know.

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Speaker 5: And one thing she always used to ask, you know

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Speaker 6: Called him just talking to hearing because I'm a big fan.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, if for music, don't give me goosebumps, I said.

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Speaker 5: I said, no, no, no, I said, I said, you

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Speaker 4: I said, say, come take a listen. Go in there.

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Speaker 5: It was guarding the commissioners in there, a couple of

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Speaker 4: I heard always at night crazy. I walked in the studio.

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Speaker 5: I said, all right, So if I can't if I

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Speaker 4: Don't give me goose I said. I said, like.

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Speaker 5: That's all right, Yeah, it's I kind of we had

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Speaker 5: and I'm reading this thing. Chuck did so his Lauren

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Speaker 4: I said, Wow, I'm.

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Speaker 5: Sitting there reading this is early early, this is when

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Speaker 5: we does that Zion Like, I'm like, oh wow, Like

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so then all right, let's go. Yeah it's true and.

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Speaker 3: We are that. How does Zion feel hearing that song today?

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Speaker 5: You know, because I know it's touching. Yeah, because he's

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Speaker 5: So this is he's him, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: That's just him. He's a blessed one and that is him.

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Speaker 5: And when you hear that song, you make him cry,

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Speaker 5: like you know what I mean, you make it you know,

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Speaker 5: his mother. I say, yeah, you know, mother Zion, because

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Speaker 5: most people don't know this, but before I met miss

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Speaker 4: I opened my briefcase.

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Speaker 5: I used to walk with an attache because I'm, you know,

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Speaker 4: Just leave college ripped you?

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Speaker 2: So you about five eight five how much right now?

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Speaker 5: Because I became such vegan my junior year, I stopped

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Speaker 4: I was like one ninety to muscle.

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Speaker 5: So I say to miss Lauren Hill, I say, I

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Speaker 4: I said, So.

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Speaker 5: This is me when my children now, and now I'm

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Speaker 5: now when miss Lauren Hill have zion. I told my brothers,

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Speaker 5: I say, listen, I got to move to New Jersey.

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Speaker 5: I said, what do you mean. I said yeah, because

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Speaker 4: I got to go and take care of my kid,

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Speaker 4: you know. He said, all right, go. My brother's nigga

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Speaker 4: and Steve al right, go. So I go to New Jersey.

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Speaker 5: But while I'm in New Jersey because you know she's

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Speaker 4: So I got it.

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Speaker 5: I can't be the guy. Oh man, this guy I

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Speaker 5: got to hold down so she.

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Speaker 4: Could keep moving. And you know what I mean, because

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, he's up.

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Speaker 4: Who's this guy?

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Speaker 3: Why is this guy?

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Speaker 4: Who is he gonna? You need to do your music.

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Speaker 5: That's why the song Zion. So I have to go

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Speaker 5: there and hold it down. I gotta bring my strength,

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Speaker 5: you know, like, so it makes makes makes her flow

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Speaker 2: Because that's important. Her ecosystem is important.

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Speaker 4: To do that.

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Speaker 5: She could go out that woman or that I'm wold

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Speaker 5: it down, go and do your thing. Man, I got it.

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Speaker 5: I got don't worry about that.

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Speaker 4: I got this.

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Speaker 2: I love it.

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Speaker 5: So but now I'm living in Jersey, and when I

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Speaker 5: Mommy Zion, they call her and they call them Momision

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Speaker 5: untill they were like twenty because that's Mummy of science.

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00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:54,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was.

443
00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:56,679
Speaker 5: Your name for the children. So that's how our family.

444
00:22:56,800 --> 00:23:02,160
Speaker 5: So when they were young on tour. All my children,

445
00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:05,960
Speaker 5: my children from my previous relationship, my wife which I

446
00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,320
Speaker 5: married their mothers when I was a young boy, and

447
00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:11,720
Speaker 5: then after her was Miss Lauren Hill, and I brought

448
00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:12,399
Speaker 5: them all together.

449
00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:15,960
Speaker 4: So when i'm my children, you know because yes.

450
00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:19,000
Speaker 5: So I was able to make sure that my children

451
00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:22,160
Speaker 5: know the most important thing is the brother and brotherly

452
00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:23,200
Speaker 5: love and sisterly love.

453
00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:26,600
Speaker 4: No matter. My life is my life. What I do

454
00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:29,800
Speaker 4: has nothing to do with you. That's my that's me.

455
00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:35,280
Speaker 5: Don't let that, don't don't get involved with me, don't

456
00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:40,360
Speaker 5: stay in Your children must be children. Children, don't get

457
00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:44,959
Speaker 5: in big people business. No, that's all you wrote. Make

458
00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:47,960
Speaker 5: sure my children, make sure brothers and sisters are brothers

459
00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:48,399
Speaker 5: and sisters.

460
00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:49,880
Speaker 4: I don't care.

461
00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:52,439
Speaker 5: Maybe I'm not the perfect man in the world that

462
00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:55,320
Speaker 5: was able to do it, like they say no, because

463
00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:56,239
Speaker 5: some things don't work out.

464
00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:59,480
Speaker 2: I make all you motherfuckers, you all go love each other.

465
00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:00,400
Speaker 4: You must.

466
00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:04,200
Speaker 2: There's no other way, no choice, There's no other way.

467
00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:05,480
Speaker 2: I'm a step dad.

468
00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:07,320
Speaker 6: When she was when you when you all was together

469
00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:10,639
Speaker 6: recording that album at that time, when you was hearing

470
00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:12,159
Speaker 6: it and then we'll was putting together.

471
00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:14,600
Speaker 3: Did you know it was gonna be what it is today,

472
00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:17,680
Speaker 3: of course. Yeah, but that's one of them. Just when

473
00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:19,000
Speaker 3: you listen to it, like, oh yeah, this is it.

474
00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:20,680
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm telling you this.

475
00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:22,639
Speaker 5: I don't know if this is anywhere in the world,

476
00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:27,600
Speaker 5: but I remember that that Sunny record said that this

477
00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:29,240
Speaker 5: was coffee table music.

478
00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:33,560
Speaker 3: That goes so how much they know?

479
00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:34,960
Speaker 4: They don't know nothing.

480
00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:37,000
Speaker 3: Crazy?

481
00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:38,960
Speaker 5: And let me tell you what I means. She's standing

482
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:40,560
Speaker 5: on business. She says, no, this is the songs I

483
00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:41,400
Speaker 5: wanted to make, and.

484
00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:43,359
Speaker 3: She stood strong too strong strong.

485
00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:45,280
Speaker 5: We'll get when I'm worried or she's just gonna do

486
00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:48,639
Speaker 5: it her way you did because you're not gonna you

487
00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:51,080
Speaker 5: can't lessen yourself to make someone greater.

488
00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:55,000
Speaker 3: I mean, no sense who's a bigger Who's name another star?

489
00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:57,760
Speaker 6: Who is who's just as big as Laura Hill with

490
00:24:57,800 --> 00:24:58,520
Speaker 6: only one album?

491
00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:00,480
Speaker 3: You know, oh one?

492
00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:04,920
Speaker 5: I mean when you say no, but let's be fair,

493
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:07,800
Speaker 5: let's not let's not say one album because remember the.

494
00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:10,359
Speaker 3: Food is one solo album.

495
00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:15,000
Speaker 4: Solo. But she did do Misake, she did do the unplugged.

496
00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:16,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, she did unplugged.

497
00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:23,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know how that's you know. I'm chilling in

498
00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:27,159
Speaker 4: South Orange and I need to get my watch fixed.

499
00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:30,040
Speaker 5: So I go into a place called Mainplewood, you know,

500
00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:31,959
Speaker 5: and I walk into the Julia store to get my

501
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:35,639
Speaker 5: watch fixed. And this guy is there and he's like,

502
00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:39,080
Speaker 5: yo't you roll in and say what's up? He says, Man,

503
00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:43,360
Speaker 5: I'm from MTV, MTV London, TV Europe.

504
00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:46,840
Speaker 4: I said, yeah, I said, cool man. But my moms

505
00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:50,600
Speaker 4: exchange numbers and such and such. I go back home now,

506
00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:51,679
Speaker 4: I said Lauren.

507
00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:56,040
Speaker 5: I said, Lauren, I just met this guy from MTV

508
00:25:56,200 --> 00:26:00,399
Speaker 5: London and they just started unplugged.

509
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:05,160
Speaker 4: M And at the time, Laren was playing a guitar a.

510
00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:06,119
Speaker 1: Lot, you know.

511
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:08,840
Speaker 5: I said, why don't you talk to this man about

512
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:12,920
Speaker 5: doing an unplugged She says, yeah, give me his number, sir.

513
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:19,359
Speaker 4: This is no record company, no nothing, and I always

514
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:20,880
Speaker 4: she said.

515
00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:24,600
Speaker 5: I'm going to introduce you to the guy from MTV USA,

516
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:25,480
Speaker 5: which is New York.

517
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:30,119
Speaker 4: I forget his name. Nice person. We go there.

518
00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:34,360
Speaker 5: She brought her book bag with all her books because

519
00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:41,800
Speaker 5: for me, what I admire most about her and what

520
00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:46,000
Speaker 5: and what I tried to tell my children about music.

521
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:51,679
Speaker 5: You see, a certain type of music have to be

522
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:54,160
Speaker 5: made a certain type of way.

523
00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:56,720
Speaker 4: You did her music.

524
00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:02,800
Speaker 5: Comes like or overst and like her. Her perception of

525
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:05,800
Speaker 5: life comes directly from the Bible.

526
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:06,680
Speaker 4: The amount of.

527
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:10,160
Speaker 5: Knowledge that she has received just through her edifying her

528
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:14,240
Speaker 5: mind through the Bible and other great books that she reads.

529
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:18,280
Speaker 5: She translates that to life. That's her teaching of how

530
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:22,240
Speaker 5: to live. So she makes that kind of music and

531
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:26,600
Speaker 5: seeming like my dad, did their music come from like

532
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 5: that biblical mindset, you know? So she writes like that,

533
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:34,320
Speaker 5: and she so I say to my children, I say,

534
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:36,800
Speaker 5: oh man, you know, you know you got to be

535
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:43,760
Speaker 5: inspired by some might as well be inspired by the

536
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:46,199
Speaker 5: greatest book of all time. So that's kind of her,

537
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:49,440
Speaker 5: and she translates that very well. And that's when the

538
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 5: likeness to her of like you would say what Chuck

539
00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:59,600
Speaker 5: de says in the in this community right, and she

540
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:03,359
Speaker 5: is because she lived at and she really is a

541
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:06,960
Speaker 5: true creative and a true lover of her arts.

542
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 2: Before we transition out and get to know about your

543
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:14,400
Speaker 2: your upbringing, do you have me in your personal opinion?

544
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:16,960
Speaker 2: Do you feel like there will ever be another solo

545
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:19,119
Speaker 2: or Fujis album?

546
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:22,560
Speaker 5: Well, one thing I do know for sure, Miss Laurin

547
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:25,919
Speaker 5: Hill has a plethora of music.

548
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:30,359
Speaker 6: I can only imagine she's she's she's doing her music,

549
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 6: she's touring, she she does her music.

550
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:37,520
Speaker 4: She she's doing what artist does like she is.

551
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:43,240
Speaker 5: It's like it's like seeing do you think Steven would

552
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:46,120
Speaker 5: ever go back into n B A. But you're you're

553
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:52,560
Speaker 5: you're playing around the world, you're doing you having seminars

554
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 5: of teaching basketball and still yeah, what you're doing, you're

555
00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:02,239
Speaker 5: playing whether you know what, doesn't matter what organization you're with.

556
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 5: You're a joining the organization now, right. So she's with

557
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 5: her own organization and she's still playing the music. Maybe

558
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 5: it's not being recorded and delivered through a entity like

559
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 5: a record company, then through a distributor and such. But

560
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:23,000
Speaker 5: if those guys wanted to really have a miscelonial album,

561
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:27,440
Speaker 5: they you can't. You can't treat her like she's begging

562
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 5: you something.

563
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:29,840
Speaker 3: Yeah said, no, I'm.

564
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 4: All right, So that's for me to have an album.

565
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:40,200
Speaker 5: I gotta just accept what you say.

566
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 3: That's the only way, because she deserves it. Yeah, that's

567
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:44,960
Speaker 3: the only way we show on it. I wish I

568
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 3: had a billion dollars. I'll give a couple of one

569
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:48,480
Speaker 3: hundred a couple of albums.

570
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:51,720
Speaker 4: You hear that ship, Yeah, what do you think, yeah, you're.

571
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:53,959
Speaker 5: Gonna get that money back so she can so she

572
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:54,960
Speaker 5: can do it her way.

573
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:59,000
Speaker 4: What do you mean you you you're gonna your profit margin.

574
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:01,920
Speaker 5: For instance, when she was back in the time when

575
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 5: mis Education, when she made mis Education an album was

576
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 5: selling for what nineteen ninety nine, when they get an

577
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:11,360
Speaker 5: artist ten cents, be talking about they made enough money.

578
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:14,560
Speaker 5: You think over the years, they made enough money. What

579
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:16,800
Speaker 5: do you mean, but she must get slave for that again?

580
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 4: Coming Slavery days are.

581
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:23,600
Speaker 2: Over, man, Yeah, been over nineteen seventy two, Jamaica. Yeah,

582
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:26,240
Speaker 2: growing up you were telling us doubt shit about what

583
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:28,520
Speaker 2: were they call rock wars. But talk to us just

584
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 2: about your upbringing. Obviously your father you losing your father

585
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:34,800
Speaker 2: at nine years old. But what was that journey like

586
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:36,680
Speaker 2: before your father passed.

587
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:40,080
Speaker 5: I was born in Kingston and a hospital called Jubilee Hospital.

588
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:45,400
Speaker 5: And I was born My mother had new and she

589
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 5: was like fifteen sixteen, so she was a young mother.

590
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 5: I have a brother that was born a few days

591
00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:58,959
Speaker 5: before me too, different mothers. Of course, how it is

592
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:04,240
Speaker 5: popsy it is we're born in the same hospital, you know.

593
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 5: It is my brother Robert, and then Stephen was born

594
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:12,480
Speaker 5: in April in the same year.

595
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:16,760
Speaker 3: What's stephen birthday? April? What twenty Okay, I'm April Field.

596
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 2: Imagine that. Imagine that Killer.

597
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 5: So it's the three of us, you know, Stephen, Robert

598
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 5: and Rohan. Having a young mother. You know, there's many

599
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:34,960
Speaker 5: things that comes with that. You know, a young mother

600
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 5: means she being but young in that time in jamaica's

601
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 5: not as not this time, right, So young mother that

602
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:46,080
Speaker 5: means you live with your pearance still and then with

603
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:50,720
Speaker 5: the father like my father who's a Rasta man. Her

604
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 5: parents Rosta don't really like that because their mother's Catholic.

605
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 5: Growing up with a young mother obviously the your young

606
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 5: mother at the time, she had to also find her

607
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 5: way at that age having a child.

608
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:07,720
Speaker 4: I mean, it's rough because you live with your mother

609
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 4: and father.

610
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 5: So but I remember this is the one of the

611
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 5: most important thing I do remember though, in the transition

612
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:18,320
Speaker 5: in life, because I remember there was a transitional point

613
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:22,600
Speaker 5: in life and I don't know, I don't know, I

614
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 5: do know actually why actually, but there was a transition

615
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 5: in my life where.

616
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:32,360
Speaker 4: My father he had all his children in the school called.

617
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 5: Vosprep, which is like a private, private vast proprietory. It's

618
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 5: like a private school, but it's you know, there's all

619
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:42,880
Speaker 5: different types of people there. So at the time, as

620
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 5: a young boy, I lived in the community that wasn't

621
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:49,400
Speaker 5: too that was within the district of the school transportation.

622
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 5: So my father would pay for the school transportation to

623
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:57,720
Speaker 5: take me to school and such. But I remember one

624
00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 5: day my grandfather, my mother's father, when he moved his.

625
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 4: Family to a house.

626
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 5: I remember I went to this house and there was

627
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 5: two there's two sides to the house. I went in

628
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 5: the house and I would run through the house. But

629
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 5: I remember one day I couldn't run through the house

630
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 5: no longer. Another family moved into the other side of

631
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 5: the house. So my grandparents they were renting half of

632
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:27,479
Speaker 5: the house for their family and another family's renting theirs.

633
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:30,600
Speaker 5: But I only learned this as I grow older. I'm like, wait,

634
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 5: this was what was going on, But I do so

635
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:37,600
Speaker 5: through that now. My grandfather then decided. My grandfather was

636
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 5: a carpenter. He worked in the He worked downtown Kingston, Jamaica.

637
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 5: He was a carpenter. He built windows, cheers and all

638
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 5: that stuff. So he saved up some money. He bought

639
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:53,320
Speaker 5: a piece of land in Spanish down Jamaica. But I

640
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 5: guess it was only at the time.

641
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 4: I don't know. I guess it was the only place

642
00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 4: he could find land to buy.

643
00:33:58,800 --> 00:33:59,040
Speaker 3: You know.

644
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 4: He built a little house.

645
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 5: He told us to pack the bags, and I remember

646
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:08,920
Speaker 5: him taking myself and my cousin, which was my mother's

647
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:13,279
Speaker 5: brother's son, and we went down there to move into

648
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:16,360
Speaker 5: the house. But when I went, when I do remember

649
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 5: when I moved into that house was the wet cement.

650
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 5: It's like like half of the house was finished and

651
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 5: half wasn't really finished, so he could I could. I

652
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:31,839
Speaker 5: remember smelling the wet cement, you know, like the house

653
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:34,320
Speaker 5: was still like you know what. I sell the cement,

654
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:38,319
Speaker 5: all right, and then I had to walk through the

655
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:43,400
Speaker 5: bush to go to the back to go buy oil and.

656
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 4: Uh uh seasoning.

657
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:48,080
Speaker 5: And I also had to buy cursing oil to light

658
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:51,480
Speaker 5: the lamp because there's no electricity in the house, you know.

659
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:54,960
Speaker 5: So I remember doing all that and candles and lamps

660
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:59,800
Speaker 5: and watching my grandfather every time he go to Kingston

661
00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:02,239
Speaker 5: and I'm back, he brings a little some of the

662
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:06,400
Speaker 5: windows until he was able to put the windows in

663
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:09,400
Speaker 5: seend the door, you knows, boom, Then he moved the

664
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:11,920
Speaker 5: other side of the family down, but it took him

665
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 5: a month to get everybody, you know what I mean.

666
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 5: But I also remember that we cement. But now what

667
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:20,759
Speaker 5: they did, they moved me out of the district. So

668
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 5: now I don't have the luxury of a school bus anymore.

669
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 5: And my grandmother she gets up at five o'clock in

670
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:31,319
Speaker 5: the morning to go to her work. So she got

671
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 5: to take a taxi to the main bus station and

672
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:38,400
Speaker 5: take a bus to her to her work and gets

673
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:41,360
Speaker 5: off of their work and that's halfway to my school.

674
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 5: So how it started out, my mother used to take

675
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 5: me to.

676
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 4: School, you know. But my mother, like she laid, always

677
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 4: laid to school showing up.

678
00:35:56,040 --> 00:36:00,759
Speaker 5: So her mother is cussing her this said that while

679
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 5: you forget up earlier.

680
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:04,400
Speaker 4: I want to take him.

681
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:07,439
Speaker 5: But how they decided to take me was I would

682
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:09,759
Speaker 5: get get on the road with my granny on the

683
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:12,840
Speaker 5: taxi to the bus. But then my granny now or

684
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:15,920
Speaker 5: my mother would tell the bus driver or the conductor

685
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:18,359
Speaker 5: the guy where you pay. You know, hey, listen, when

686
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:20,520
Speaker 5: you get to downtown him get off at this bus

687
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:21,920
Speaker 5: to show him.

688
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 4: Which but the bus thirty two. Because now I gotta

689
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:26,960
Speaker 4: take that bus and go to my school.

690
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:28,880
Speaker 2: So how were you at the start?

691
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 4: Five?

692
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 2: That's crazy five.

693
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 5: My daddy passed away when I was nine, So all

694
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:39,919
Speaker 5: this time they call me Bob's bad son, because bad

695
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:41,759
Speaker 5: meaning like like.

696
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 4: I'm doing this stuff. I can.

697
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 5: I can take a bus by myself around Jamaica as

698
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 5: a little boy like was flex, you know what I mean.

699
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 4: The conductors they all know me.

700
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:57,239
Speaker 5: Everybody everybody in the street know me and Jamaica you know,

701
00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:58,719
Speaker 5: you know they know me like that because I'm in

702
00:36:58,800 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 5: the street.

703
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 3: I must on doctor porch early.

704
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:04,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, when did you know your dad was what's kind

705
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 2: of a big deal? At what age? Was it before

706
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:08,479
Speaker 2: he passed or after?

707
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:16,920
Speaker 4: Wow? I mean all right, my father first of all,

708
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:20,360
Speaker 4: I had to learn this too. You know. My father's

709
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:24,239
Speaker 4: type of father. You speak to your cry. Huh yeah,

710
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:30,759
Speaker 4: he speaks to you. You cry. Oh wow, you call

711
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:35,359
Speaker 4: your name, you cry? You know, like that's the kind

712
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:35,760
Speaker 4: of father.

713
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 5: So my father have a certain sense, you know, a

714
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:44,879
Speaker 5: certain It's like a scent where like.

715
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:54,759
Speaker 4: Ginger and bineapple would smoke, you know, like Stu like

716
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:58,440
Speaker 4: Stu peas and Stu.

717
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:02,920
Speaker 5: Like I like fresh like you know, I see I'm sweet,

718
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 5: he's sweet.

719
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 4: Sweet, he's sweet.

720
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:13,840
Speaker 5: See well, I just used to I remember sometimes a

721
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:17,239
Speaker 5: young boy, because I tell you I'm a rude boy, right.

722
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:20,319
Speaker 5: I remember sometimes instead of me going to Spanish down

723
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:24,719
Speaker 5: taking a bus, I go to my father's house, you know,

724
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 5: but he's not there. Someday I'm not going. I don't

725
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 5: want to go to my mother. I'm staying in my

726
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:33,239
Speaker 5: I'm staying. I remember one time, it was like twelve

727
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:37,279
Speaker 5: o'clock in the morning. I'm sitting on the It's the

728
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:39,399
Speaker 5: day above my museum, and I'm sitting on the step.

729
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 4: You know, this not going to my money. I'm in trouble.

730
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 4: I'm in made the trouble. I'm not going.

731
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:45,839
Speaker 3: I'm staying here.

732
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:46,439
Speaker 5: I'm not going.

733
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 4: And this is where the studio is, just where everything happened,

734
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 4: you know.

735
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:51,880
Speaker 5: I remember sitting on the step and I see the

736
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:54,880
Speaker 5: bus drive up to the the bus drive up to

737
00:38:54,920 --> 00:39:00,200
Speaker 5: the gates, and man, I look, and it's my dad.

738
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:02,760
Speaker 5: They were a big time, like a big the locks

739
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:05,399
Speaker 5: you got it in a town. And I look, it's

740
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 5: my father. I said, blood, I'm young. I remember, stop

741
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:13,319
Speaker 5: and just walk right. It's the kind of man he is, though,

742
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:17,359
Speaker 5: you see me just walk. He walk and he saw

743
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 5: me and I saw him.

744
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:23,759
Speaker 4: I saw him and just look you look, and he's like,

745
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 4: I knowing is not you know, as a as a father,

746
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:28,560
Speaker 4: I said, He's like, what the fuck is.

747
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 3: He doing here?

748
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 4: His mine? He's like.

749
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:35,959
Speaker 2: Nobody, but this is not this is.

750
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:38,400
Speaker 5: Not like that type of home. This is what Dad's.

751
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 5: My dad's house is an office, studio, enterprise. Everything built

752
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 5: and his bedrooms upstairs, everything around my dad. There's no

753
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:50,319
Speaker 5: there's only him there. There's no nobody who's lived there.

754
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 5: No woman live in that house. It's my dad at work.

755
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 5: And that's the way he's there. This is that that house,

756
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:57,839
Speaker 5: you know, but it's filled with people. It's about money

757
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:00,440
Speaker 5: museum today. But i'm him with dad.

758
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:00,759
Speaker 4: Man.

759
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 5: So I sat there, you know, and I'm there waiting

760
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:08,200
Speaker 5: to hear my name or something, and I see my

761
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:11,400
Speaker 5: father come back downstairs and say get over there. And

762
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 5: he got on a boxing glove and he tell everybody circlub.

763
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 5: Not with me, he says. He throw in all the.

764
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 4: Gloves to another member.

765
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 5: He said, come on, they circlub and they start boxing

766
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 5: at twelve o'clock in the night, boxing, you know. And

767
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 5: after that, after they start boxing. He going to go upstairs.

768
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 5: He's going to the studio. So I go in the studio. Now,

769
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 5: you know, y'all still haven't spoke. I'm saying unto you yet,

770
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 5: I mean not really really OK, Like he's just I'm

771
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:43,000
Speaker 5: just I'm just existing there there. He's like, yo, you know,

772
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:46,040
Speaker 5: I mean, I'm I'm moving with the movement. But the

773
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:49,440
Speaker 5: step is here, and where he's boxing is right over there,

774
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:51,359
Speaker 5: because when you go to the museum you'll see it,

775
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:53,759
Speaker 5: and then the studio is right here, right.

776
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:55,880
Speaker 4: So I'm there. I get up, I see them he

777
00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:59,439
Speaker 4: did his thing with his friends. I go sit back down.

778
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 4: He go up stairs.

779
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:04,279
Speaker 5: They call, he calls me into the studio. So I'm

780
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 5: in the studio now. But inside of the studio, my

781
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:11,360
Speaker 5: dad is here, and the board is here, and the

782
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:13,920
Speaker 5: speakers are here, and the mirror you know how you

783
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 5: see through the other side is here. So I'm there.

784
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:20,640
Speaker 5: But it's now two o'clock in the morning, and you

785
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:22,719
Speaker 5: can't sleep around my dad.

786
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:28,920
Speaker 2: You can't as much dope as were smoking, you couldn't sleep.

787
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:34,839
Speaker 4: He's recorded, and I'm like this, no, like, hey, hey boy,

788
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:39,279
Speaker 4: get up and go upstairs. I go upstairs. Now, I

789
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 4: fall asleep.

790
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:45,319
Speaker 5: Like about an hour later, Man, my father says, hey,

791
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:50,440
Speaker 5: wake up and go wash your feet dirty.

792
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 2: Can't get dirty feet on the bed. That's I love it.

793
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 2: So obviously the business of Marley is is something that's

794
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:08,959
Speaker 2: well respected around the world. You guys were offering money

795
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:11,440
Speaker 2: early on. You guys came together because there was actually

796
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:13,400
Speaker 2: no will, But you guys came together and realized, hey,

797
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 2: let's build this legacy out for our father. So you

798
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 2: guys have been able to do that. So tell us

799
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:20,360
Speaker 2: some of the stuff. It's been estimated at about almost

800
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 2: a half a billion dollar company annually making nearly twenty

801
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 2: million a year. What is your part in the family

802
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 2: legacy and business?

803
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 6: So you start, that's a testament to your father for

804
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:32,279
Speaker 6: him to be gone and y'all still he took had

805
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 6: the morals of y'all to still stay together and staying

806
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 6: strong together.

807
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 3: The fact you know what I'm saying, that's actual testiment,

808
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:38,440
Speaker 3: the pop factual.

809
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 5: And you know because since yes, life after about you know,

810
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 5: nineteen eighty one five, the pastaway, no will, trust happened

811
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:50,879
Speaker 5: to gather all the assets they sell it. We ended

812
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:53,800
Speaker 5: up taking the person that bought it to privy council

813
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:56,640
Speaker 5: because you wanted first right refuse it as the children, we.

814
00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:57,399
Speaker 4: Didn't want the money.

815
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:02,320
Speaker 5: We then did that ra money bought our Dad's likeness

816
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:06,840
Speaker 5: and all publishing and likeness except for twenty five percent

817
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 5: because that was a stipulation. After that, it took us

818
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:13,440
Speaker 5: like since nineteen ninety two, because from eighty one to

819
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 5: ninety two it took took that time to really bring

820
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:19,839
Speaker 5: everything together for them to present the structure and the sale.

821
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 5: So when we bought it, we then now started to

822
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 5: nurture it and started to develop different businesses. One of

823
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:28,239
Speaker 5: the first business that we started being that there was

824
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:30,840
Speaker 5: a lot of bootleg material of our dad, of T

825
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 5: shirts and all these different things. The first thing that

826
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 5: we said we would do, we'll create Zion Roots for Yes,

827
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:39,360
Speaker 5: and we created Zion Roots, which is now our company

828
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:43,239
Speaker 5: that we produce all the mode the merchandise from all

829
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:44,719
Speaker 5: the T shirts, et cetera.

830
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 3: I did a collaborate roots to fight Yes gotch we.

831
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 4: Got you, We'll get you.

832
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:52,839
Speaker 5: So we have Zion Riture stuff. Then we stepped into

833
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:57,080
Speaker 5: audio electronics. We create a house it's called House of Marley.

834
00:43:57,600 --> 00:44:01,160
Speaker 5: All audio electronics made from all eco fronts sustainable materials,

835
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 5: which belongs in our ecosystem as roster fire people naturally.

836
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:07,480
Speaker 5: Then after that, I created a company called Marley Coffee,

837
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 5: which is another organic sustainable coffee company right now number

838
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:15,120
Speaker 5: one coffee company in Chile. I started here, but I

839
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:17,279
Speaker 5: had to kind of pivot and work with the people

840
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 5: that really believed in the brand to establish the brand.

841
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:22,239
Speaker 5: So I've established that in Chile now, so it's great

842
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:25,239
Speaker 5: in Chili. We have a good footprint in Canada, etc.

843
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:28,239
Speaker 5: I'm here on Amazon in America, but I'm getting ready

844
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:32,800
Speaker 5: now to really start and to rebuild the coffee shop presence.

845
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 4: That's Marley Coffee.

846
00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:38,840
Speaker 5: We have Marley Naturals, which is our cannabis company, one

847
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 5: of our cannabis companies, and I myself my main movement

848
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:45,320
Speaker 5: and main focus now here in Florida. I've partnered with

849
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 5: a group called Goldflower to bring line order cannabis here

850
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 5: to Florida.

851
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 4: So they have the license.

852
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:52,319
Speaker 5: They're one of the I guess twenty two or twenty

853
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:55,759
Speaker 5: three license holders here on the medical side. So I'm

854
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:58,920
Speaker 5: working with Goldflower now to bring line order to Florida.

855
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:01,840
Speaker 5: I'm very very happy about it. So that's kind of

856
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:06,720
Speaker 5: the future and we're excited to really lay our stakes

857
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:08,759
Speaker 5: here in Florida and.

858
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 4: Call this home because we've been here since nineteen seventy six.

859
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:15,040
Speaker 4: So it's now really life after bout Miami football.

860
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 5: Playing to Miami. How was that playing to Miami. I

861
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:21,400
Speaker 5: get to Miami. The first thing they told me you

862
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:24,879
Speaker 5: don't belong here. You only hear call you Bob Molly's son.

863
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:30,399
Speaker 5: I said, yeah, I just ripped up high school. I'd

864
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:32,760
Speaker 5: done one of the top running backs in the country.

865
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:36,719
Speaker 5: I don't punish him. I lived the country or the

866
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:39,440
Speaker 5: state in all kinds of different things, and I was

867
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:45,359
Speaker 5: busting next. I was crushing people. And so I get

868
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 5: to Miami. The first thing they do, where we're going

869
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:53,800
Speaker 5: to play him? Then move me to cornerback? I said, cornerback?

870
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:57,240
Speaker 5: I said, all right, what did I do? Because you remember,

871
00:45:57,680 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 5: I'm every position. I'm learning for the first time in

872
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:02,720
Speaker 5: my life. I'm just playing. I'm just playing on the astute.

873
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:04,800
Speaker 2: I'm tripping off. How you even came from Jamaica to

874
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:06,240
Speaker 2: even be able to play football?

875
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:12,560
Speaker 5: I told you, Dan Marino, Yeah, Mark Clayton, Mark Duper

876
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:15,240
Speaker 5: the Miami Dolphins.

877
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:19,399
Speaker 2: Forty nine ers beating him. Here we go yes, sir,

878
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:21,600
Speaker 2: he ain't gonna let you make it with that. I

879
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 2: can't do it.

880
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:22,960
Speaker 3: We'll go ahead.

881
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 2: So you're in college cornerback, Man, it was sad.

882
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:32,120
Speaker 3: It was sad memories.

883
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:35,240
Speaker 4: You know, college. I get to college.

884
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:38,920
Speaker 5: Now I get there. First of all, they say to me,

885
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:41,440
Speaker 5: you only hear cut you bought Money's son. I said, well,

886
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:48,320
Speaker 5: I mean, hey, you ain't watch film. Did y'all know watching?

887
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 4: Fuck you think? I said, let's go.

888
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:53,399
Speaker 5: So I got out there with the attitude like all right,

889
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 5: I got to prove myself. And I remember playing Cornerback

890
00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:02,800
Speaker 5: cover two. Oh yeah, Roker jamu ass Marley was jam you.

891
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 5: But I couldn't cover deep, like what's my thing?

892
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 3: Because you couldn't get one time? One time? Cover two?

893
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:21,799
Speaker 4: Though, well you gotta remember cover two.

894
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:28,000
Speaker 5: Ain't it's not man the top? Yeah, but that one

895
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:31,759
Speaker 5: play looked like it was me. I walked in the

896
00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:35,560
Speaker 5: locker room, the sirens went up, and they used to

897
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:37,600
Speaker 5: really pick on me. Man, I used to have to fight.

898
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 5: I remember one day an article came on the Jet

899
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 5: magazine about my family and was in the picture.

900
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 4: This, Oh you ain't this thing ain't even in the family.

901
00:47:56,160 --> 00:48:02,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not even where are you at? What we

902
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:03,320
Speaker 3: won't see you?

903
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:06,400
Speaker 5: Bro? So I said, man, whatever, So I used to

904
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 5: have to fight and fight, I'm fighting. So my going

905
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:12,880
Speaker 5: into my now my red shirt year. The red shirted me,

906
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:17,000
Speaker 5: my junior going into my red shirt freshman year. Spring ball,

907
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:19,839
Speaker 5: they called me into the office and told me they're

908
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:22,640
Speaker 5: gonna move me into a new position, linebacker.

909
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:25,800
Speaker 4: I said, linebacker. I've been losing all this weight to

910
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:28,360
Speaker 4: be a dB. A lot of action, a lot of

911
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:32,000
Speaker 4: action in linement. But that's my place. But I promise you.

912
00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:35,920
Speaker 4: When they told me that, I said, all right.

913
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 5: I started feeling a bit more comfortable because being not

914
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 5: on the be not a cornerback high it's a higher risk.

915
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:45,959
Speaker 5: You can cost a lot of games out there. Corner

916
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 5: it's a higher risk.

917
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:50,240
Speaker 3: The hardest position on the football field, I I think.

918
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 5: So cornerback they got, I mean, man to manage you

919
00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 5: felt like, because they have to guard you.

920
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:59,360
Speaker 2: Know, I'm just saying, in general, cornerback is all reaction.

921
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:03,799
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, you have good feet. So they moved me there,

922
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:04,960
Speaker 4: they told me linebacker.

923
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:09,920
Speaker 5: First day of practice, inside run, I started making all

924
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:12,279
Speaker 5: the tackles. As you know what I mean. I love

925
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:14,279
Speaker 5: I love playing the run, so I started making all

926
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:16,359
Speaker 5: the tackles. I remember going back into the locker room

927
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:18,640
Speaker 5: and warn't saccess to me. You know, rohand, eve been

928
00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:19,120
Speaker 5: fucking you.

929
00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 4: Man. You should have always been a linebacker.

930
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 2: But you played with some real hitters on that man.

931
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:29,200
Speaker 5: Said Michael Barrett, dans Ma, Daryl Williams. I play with

932
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:29,920
Speaker 5: a lot of legends.

933
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 3: No, this is the question though. Yeah, you know Uncle

934
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:35,400
Speaker 3: Luke had the Bundie program. Were you're part of that?

935
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:38,160
Speaker 3: When you're around Uncle Luke had the Bonnie program? Yeah,

936
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:39,880
Speaker 3: so you got a couple of dollars. You know what

937
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:44,600
Speaker 3: they always said? You know, I didn't know they always thought,

938
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:52,080
Speaker 3: you know what he said?

939
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:52,440
Speaker 1: You know what?

940
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:53,960
Speaker 2: Goddamn it? Let me hold up.

941
00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:56,200
Speaker 4: But all right, all right, all right, let me let

942
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:57,759
Speaker 4: me let me talk to you about something.

943
00:49:57,800 --> 00:50:01,560
Speaker 5: Right, hold on, Lucas here, right, come real quick. All right,

944
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 5: there's two types of Miami right when I'm growing up.

945
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:12,440
Speaker 5: There's South Miami and then there's North Miami. South Miami

946
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:16,200
Speaker 5: now is where you have like I don't know, I

947
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:20,280
Speaker 5: guess you're gonna call it the suburbs. But North Miami

948
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:22,640
Speaker 5: now is where you have the life. This where you

949
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:24,560
Speaker 5: have like people named like you. I don't know if

950
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 5: you know these people that Cadillac Bird, certain type of

951
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:31,640
Speaker 5: people like that. You know where where the lake what's

952
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:34,440
Speaker 5: the cars with the big rim and them in the

953
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:39,479
Speaker 5: overtown and then Liberty, Yeah, the verts converted with the paint,

954
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:43,000
Speaker 5: the spring and the base and then and then rattle

955
00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 5: and rattle and then.

956
00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:51,640
Speaker 4: You have that. So Uncle Luke Now, now Uncle Luke

957
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:55,320
Speaker 4: was the head of everything.

958
00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:58,200
Speaker 5: When you talk about what you see today in the world,

959
00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:00,480
Speaker 5: if you see girls, I don't know, I mean, we

960
00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:02,600
Speaker 5: don't really, I don't condone these things.

961
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:06,200
Speaker 3: What what what them?

962
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:07,920
Speaker 4: Type of dance what you see today?

963
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:13,400
Speaker 5: This was happening in Miami right here where being banned, uh,

964
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:16,840
Speaker 5: fighting sheriffs and stuff because of the justice the music

965
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:18,759
Speaker 5: Two Live Crew, you know what I'm saying.

966
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:21,600
Speaker 4: So I grew up in that era where yeah, Uncle

967
00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:23,960
Speaker 4: Luke and Two Live Crew was the way.

968
00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:29,759
Speaker 5: So that now that was now Miami because of the

969
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:33,359
Speaker 5: most of the athletes they're coming from North and South.

970
00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:38,239
Speaker 5: Remember South, down South is still like North. There's middle

971
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:41,239
Speaker 5: South and down South, so that's still like North. So

972
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:47,720
Speaker 5: the University of Miami and Uncle Luke relationships started because

973
00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:52,759
Speaker 5: the inner city youths that were being raised by just

974
00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:59,880
Speaker 5: just having someone in from the music industry, music in

975
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:04,640
Speaker 5: the street with some ends that can show us away. Right,

976
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:07,799
Speaker 5: So they talk about this Dad. We used to call

977
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:09,719
Speaker 5: it the hit, the hit bucket, or whatever you want

978
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:12,680
Speaker 5: to call it. But uncle, Uncle give us incentives. Hey,

979
00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:15,080
Speaker 5: y'all go out there, y'all win this year. We take

980
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:21,320
Speaker 5: you know whatever, if the nil with the real nil,

981
00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:25,600
Speaker 5: like real manifestation of a nil. But if you talk

982
00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:28,640
Speaker 5: about my personal relationship with uncle, you not even going

983
00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:31,960
Speaker 5: back into his his Jamaican heritage because I never even

984
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:35,279
Speaker 5: knew that till like later on in life, about that

985
00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:38,000
Speaker 5: side of his life. I just I just love him

986
00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:41,800
Speaker 5: because what the school I went to is how I

987
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:44,040
Speaker 5: got to know him, the University of Miami. But I

988
00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:46,359
Speaker 5: grew up in Miami. I'd mind him seeing him all

989
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:48,960
Speaker 5: the time because I'm in Miami. So when I got

990
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:50,920
Speaker 5: to school and I was able to touch him. So

991
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:53,800
Speaker 5: when I got there, I saw how like Ray Lewis,

992
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:57,680
Speaker 5: Ray would wrap his head with That's what he wore

993
00:52:57,719 --> 00:52:58,160
Speaker 5: in his head.

994
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:06,359
Speaker 4: It was as a scar. What is say against the wrap?

995
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:07,759
Speaker 3: The boy wrapped their heads with that.

996
00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:12,840
Speaker 4: And so the U M culture you can't have the

997
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:14,319
Speaker 4: u M culture with our uncle Luke.

998
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:16,440
Speaker 3: He did, so that's that.

999
00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:19,600
Speaker 5: And then as a as a young youth, I was

1000
00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:24,240
Speaker 5: able to like really experience like life from an elder

1001
00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:29,560
Speaker 5: and being in this this world as a leader in

1002
00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:33,320
Speaker 5: the well, I would's say the American community, the Ani

1003
00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:36,960
Speaker 5: American community, the community that looked like us, and being

1004
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:39,239
Speaker 5: a leader and being up and being able to stand

1005
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:43,800
Speaker 5: up against just being able to freedom of speech and

1006
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:46,440
Speaker 5: freedom of self and being able to be a creative

1007
00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:49,520
Speaker 5: and bringing that to University of Miami and bringing that

1008
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 5: that culture where he merged because he merged them kids

1009
00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:56,719
Speaker 5: with us like we us meaning the u M and

1010
00:53:57,360 --> 00:54:00,239
Speaker 5: the like that was because we were able to should

1011
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:00,760
Speaker 5: go into.

1012
00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:04,239
Speaker 4: Those regions and feel good because we walk in there.

1013
00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:09,719
Speaker 4: When you walk in, everything good, everything good. Where's the guy? Yeah?

1014
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:13,000
Speaker 5: Because when we the University of Miami. We we love

1015
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:16,439
Speaker 5: going to the Rolex, we love going up north.

1016
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:23,080
Speaker 4: We want to go to one third three And what's

1017
00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:24,800
Speaker 4: the straw berries?

1018
00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:28,120
Speaker 5: We want to go to straw That's what ready didn't

1019
00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:29,879
Speaker 5: want to be that they want to and I'm going

1020
00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:30,840
Speaker 5: I'm tagging along.

1021
00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:33,719
Speaker 4: And then what's the other the men? What's the men,

1022
00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:34,359
Speaker 4: the men.

1023
00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:39,239
Speaker 2: What about this boat party I've been hearing about? He said,

1024
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:40,080
Speaker 2: which one which.

1025
00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:45,120
Speaker 3: Earlier? Well, there's a lot of boat which boat party?

1026
00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:46,759
Speaker 4: All right, all right, I.

1027
00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:51,680
Speaker 5: Guess I gotta tell well one time, you know, you

1028
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:53,920
Speaker 5: you you, this is what this is Some of the

1029
00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:57,040
Speaker 5: dreams you have as like a player at University of Miami.

1030
00:54:57,320 --> 00:54:59,840
Speaker 4: It's to hang with Uncle du Like to hang with

1031
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:05,040
Speaker 4: Uncle Luke as a grown man too. One of the pleasure.

1032
00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:09,440
Speaker 5: So if he says, hey, Marty, what you're doing, and

1033
00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:11,600
Speaker 5: you know, he got to talk Mary, what you're doing?

1034
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:15,120
Speaker 4: I say, meet me at seven ninth Street, Meet me

1035
00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:18,640
Speaker 4: at seven nine Street. What's what's the beer?

1036
00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:19,239
Speaker 3: The fear?

1037
00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:24,040
Speaker 4: Yeah? Seven nice right by the Chang whe the restaurant

1038
00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:24,439
Speaker 4: was there.

1039
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:29,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that was it was Chang Yeah, one

1040
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:33,319
Speaker 3: of them the Chinese when it took the food on the.

1041
00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:38,759
Speaker 4: Ben.

1042
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:45,000
Speaker 3: I don't know nothing. I don't know about this stuff.

1043
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:47,560
Speaker 4: I don't love about this type. I been here, I

1044
00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:48,120
Speaker 4: get there.

1045
00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:51,840
Speaker 5: But remember now, Uncle Luke was the one that showed

1046
00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:55,440
Speaker 5: us like like that, like you're talking about convertible cars

1047
00:55:55,560 --> 00:56:00,560
Speaker 5: and luxury nice house boat, the good life, the good life,

1048
00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:05,000
Speaker 5: the good life by doing it himself. By his own independent,

1049
00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:09,640
Speaker 5: independent label. So now I get there, I'm like, all right,

1050
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:10,400
Speaker 5: where I go?

1051
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:13,000
Speaker 4: Said? I go up in the restaurant. I don't know.

1052
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:14,040
Speaker 3: I'm supposed to go to the period.

1053
00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:15,360
Speaker 4: I don't know where to go.

1054
00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:18,800
Speaker 5: He said, Come to walk down the restaurant, come to

1055
00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:20,240
Speaker 5: the pair, come to the parent pair.

1056
00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:22,920
Speaker 4: Six thirty through five. I said, all right, I go

1057
00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:25,320
Speaker 4: down there. Now I get on the boat.

1058
00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:29,440
Speaker 5: It's says uncle Luke. It's me and a couple of

1059
00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:35,000
Speaker 5: the people, a couple of the other agenda and the captain,

1060
00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:37,439
Speaker 5: because I'm captain.

1061
00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:42,520
Speaker 4: Is vote too, man? He said, listen, we're going to Bimy.

1062
00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:46,239
Speaker 4: I said, where's that? He said, don't worry, We're going

1063
00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:49,160
Speaker 4: to Bahama's. Chill back and have a good time.

1064
00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:52,920
Speaker 5: I said, well all right. I sat there, man, I

1065
00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:57,719
Speaker 5: tell you, like I grew up, you know, to understand

1066
00:56:57,840 --> 00:57:01,640
Speaker 5: like when you're a king. When you're a king, you're

1067
00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:04,680
Speaker 5: king and you just live. So we had a good time.

1068
00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:08,080
Speaker 5: I was able to just as a little little little boy,

1069
00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:11,920
Speaker 5: a young man seeing what a general, how a general

1070
00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:15,800
Speaker 5: flex in the city rolling his board, can go to

1071
00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:23,360
Speaker 5: NASA when you want the chickenees. You got the chickens

1072
00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:29,280
Speaker 5: there you gotta have it. I mean, we're older now,

1073
00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:32,960
Speaker 5: so yeah, I'm care for the choice of words. But

1074
00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:37,280
Speaker 5: I'm telling you, no one did it better. Like I'm

1075
00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:40,479
Speaker 5: talking about, no one did it better. So the life

1076
00:57:40,520 --> 00:57:43,800
Speaker 5: of Miami, the University of Miami, the culture, what you see,

1077
00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:47,640
Speaker 5: the culture of University of Miami is right here. It's

1078
00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:50,560
Speaker 5: like the father of the culture. Because the boys, that's

1079
00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:54,120
Speaker 5: that's all the boys from the Jerome Browns. That's that's

1080
00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:57,160
Speaker 5: who they respect because that's how you that's that's kind

1081
00:57:57,160 --> 00:57:59,720
Speaker 5: of your card like to really, that's card in the streets.

1082
00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:02,760
Speaker 4: So that's what you represent for us at University of Miami.

1083
00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:03,320
Speaker 3: That's her.

1084
00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:07,120
Speaker 5: That's her street cred right here in the beginning, the

1085
00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:09,960
Speaker 5: street cred right here, you nor anywhere anywhere.

1086
00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:10,400
Speaker 4: You're good.

1087
00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:14,080
Speaker 5: When he walk in and he walked walking with the hat,

1088
00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:16,960
Speaker 5: ain't got the glasses, and he looked to the.

1089
00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:31,280
Speaker 4: Side and turned on the stage, just moving just so.

1090
00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:34,520
Speaker 5: So that's where so we grew up with that, and

1091
00:58:35,080 --> 00:58:39,800
Speaker 5: that's why forever, that's why you see the hurricanes and

1092
00:58:40,320 --> 00:58:44,000
Speaker 5: Uncle Luke here likes our uncle ever till this day.

1093
00:58:43,960 --> 00:58:47,040
Speaker 4: No matter no matter who I mean, I mean, when

1094
00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:48,640
Speaker 4: when when SAP and I together.

1095
00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:50,600
Speaker 5: We have to face time. We have group we have

1096
00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:54,920
Speaker 5: group FaceTime, like like five hurricanes on the phone and

1097
00:58:55,040 --> 00:58:59,120
Speaker 5: he's busy too. Shout shout out the SAP man and

1098
00:58:59,200 --> 00:59:03,000
Speaker 5: shout out to Raid LIU always rocking Uncle Luke Records,

1099
00:59:03,120 --> 00:59:07,200
Speaker 5: Luke Records always that is that that guy and Marlon

1100
00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:10,120
Speaker 5: Barnes pick up to Marlon Barnes, that's Bess Marl than Bond.

1101
00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:13,680
Speaker 5: But but them guys, it's almost like you you think

1102
00:59:13,720 --> 00:59:17,320
Speaker 5: there was n I L the way, the way the

1103
00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:22,320
Speaker 5: University of Miami independently represented Luke Records.

1104
00:59:23,120 --> 00:59:26,320
Speaker 4: It was Luke Records the way we represented Luke Records.

1105
00:59:26,440 --> 00:59:27,880
Speaker 2: Look help build that skyline.

1106
00:59:28,120 --> 00:59:32,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, yes, thank you.

1107
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:34,040
Speaker 2: We appreciate you, my brother, thank you.

1108
00:59:34,200 --> 00:59:37,240
Speaker 4: Love the journey you already know.

1109
00:59:43,600 --> 00:59:54,920
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm mm hmmm