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Speaker 1: using enough. You're listening to Software a Gradio, Special Operations,

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Speaker 1: been honestly quite a few years since Jake's wig has

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Speaker 1: I love having Jake on. And and actually, Jake, I

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Speaker 1: and actually I don't I still have him on Facebook,

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Speaker 1: but I don't know what he's up to. But NASCAR

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Speaker 1: to show you that you know, Jesse and Lugi is

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Speaker 1: People know you're from June. You're screwed, and also Top Shot.

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Speaker 1: That episode did eight hundred thousands. I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 1: put you in a movie. We're gona making a movie star. Okay, cool,

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Speaker 1: send me the contract. Contract never comes, you know, And

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Speaker 1: But yeah, but learn the game, man, understand the game.

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Speaker 1: So hey, I'm gonna share this awesome story from top shot,

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Speaker 1: because I mean from dude, you're screwed because this one is.

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Speaker 1: talk to that dude. I'll showed him twenty five pounds

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Speaker 1: I know, Uh, a couple of guys are trying to

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Speaker 1: But anyway, let's talk about this dude, how I got

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Speaker 1: I read connected, you shot me over a text about

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Speaker 1: this go fund me. And I don't know why, probably

424
00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:08,119
Speaker 1: because it's been years. I didn't have your number stored

425
00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:09,960
Speaker 1: and I was like, who is this text to me

426
00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:13,080
Speaker 1: about this go fund me? But what it is is

427
00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:15,440
Speaker 1: you got in touch with this single mother who says

428
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Speaker 1: several children, she's on hard times and she was a

429
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Speaker 1: fan of Dude, you're screwed, and you you started a

430
00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:24,760
Speaker 1: go fund me to help her outs raised so far

431
00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:27,760
Speaker 1: over half of your goal. Um, what's what's the story

432
00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:30,040
Speaker 1: behind it? Because from what it looks like, you know,

433
00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:32,400
Speaker 1: you're doing great work. And I tried to help out

434
00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:35,080
Speaker 1: a little bit, and and um, you know, it's always

435
00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:36,880
Speaker 1: tough to see that type of thing, and it's cool

436
00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:39,520
Speaker 1: to see people in the community doing the right thing. So,

437
00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:42,280
Speaker 1: you know, I appreciate your help. You know, I get

438
00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:47,920
Speaker 1: contacted probably, let's say twice a day by somebody not

439
00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:51,080
Speaker 1: looking for help but just wants to connect with me. Right, So,

440
00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:54,640
Speaker 1: like I had two kids, yesterday's send me Instagram messages

441
00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:57,639
Speaker 1: about wanting to be recruited by Illinois. So this is

442
00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:02,000
Speaker 1: probably to three month to go now. She hit me

443
00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:04,200
Speaker 1: up on Instagram and she was just like, Hey, I'm

444
00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:07,320
Speaker 1: a big fan of dude. You're screwed. Like I watched

445
00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:09,960
Speaker 1: the TV show all the time. We have it on Netflix,

446
00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:13,399
Speaker 1: Dotta Da Da, And there was just something about the

447
00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:16,440
Speaker 1: way she wrote it, and when I looked at her profile,

448
00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:19,400
Speaker 1: I said, So we texted. We went back and forth

449
00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:21,880
Speaker 1: on Instagram for maybe a couple of days, and I said, hey,

450
00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:24,960
Speaker 1: I'm like, give me a call. And so I talked

451
00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:27,000
Speaker 1: to her and I said, Hey, what's your deal And

452
00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:29,200
Speaker 1: she's like, well, I just had a baby, you know,

453
00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:33,520
Speaker 1: the baby six weeks old. You know, I'm I'm doing okay,

454
00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:35,959
Speaker 1: but my car blew up and it's gonna cost too

455
00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:38,960
Speaker 1: much to fix. And so but the more I talked

456
00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:43,159
Speaker 1: to her, the more I was like, man, she can

457
00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:46,359
Speaker 1: be really successful. She has the right person helping her.

458
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Speaker 1: And so as I listened to her and we talked

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Speaker 1: a little bit more over the next couple of weeks,

460
00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:56,719
Speaker 1: I don't like, I don't take projects unless I think

461
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Speaker 1: they're gonna be really successful. And I don't I don't

462
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,520
Speaker 1: and give my time to people unless I know they're

463
00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:05,000
Speaker 1: going to be really successful. And so most of the

464
00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:09,760
Speaker 1: time I'm mentoring superstars because I'm gonna require you to

465
00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:14,080
Speaker 1: do superstar stuff because I don't have any limitations like

466
00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:16,399
Speaker 1: I've I've had to overcome too much of my life

467
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,120
Speaker 1: for you to tell me that you can't do something

468
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:22,000
Speaker 1: when I know it's gonna make you successful. And so

469
00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:24,359
Speaker 1: the more we talk, the more I was like, man, like,

470
00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:28,040
Speaker 1: she's nine months away from getting her I think it's

471
00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:32,760
Speaker 1: LPN license, and you know she had this kid, and

472
00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:36,159
Speaker 1: you know her upbringing was awful. You know, she's just

473
00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:39,480
Speaker 1: just the whole story. And I said, man, she's got it,

474
00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:42,600
Speaker 1: she just gotta learned how to use it. And so

475
00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:47,800
Speaker 1: um I started to go fund me and then I

476
00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:50,040
Speaker 1: kind of panic, to be honest with you, I panic

477
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Speaker 1: because I was like, yo, am I getting a wolf

478
00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:55,400
Speaker 1: alls over my eyes. But I'm I am I gotta

479
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:59,000
Speaker 1: high EQ, right like, I'm my emotional intelligence to to

480
00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:01,480
Speaker 1: read people as really high. And I said, I don't

481
00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:04,159
Speaker 1: think so, but I pushed the panic button and so

482
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:05,800
Speaker 1: then I took a day off of work and I

483
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:08,920
Speaker 1: drove out. I spent like four hours with her. And

484
00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:11,960
Speaker 1: she don't know this, and if she listens to this show,

485
00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:15,880
Speaker 1: here it. But I really was going through her whole

486
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Speaker 1: house to see what I was missing, and I was

487
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:23,679
Speaker 1: hoping that I didn't find twenty pairs of Air Jordan's.

488
00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:27,840
Speaker 1: I was hoping that I didn't find right like Gucci

489
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:31,159
Speaker 1: clothes in the closet and product persons and all of

490
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:35,680
Speaker 1: that other stuff. And I got there. She lives in

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Speaker 1: the little town house. She pays her rent. She's living

492
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Speaker 1: right now. She's living on a month total, and she's

493
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Speaker 1: got four kids, three in school, and then she's got

494
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Speaker 1: the baby. And so I'm sitting there and as I'm

495
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:52,800
Speaker 1: in her house, I'm like, nah, this is what it is,

496
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:56,000
Speaker 1: right Like, there was one pair of Air Jordans in

497
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Speaker 1: the house for one of her older kids. That was it.

498
00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:02,440
Speaker 1: There was one pair regular shoes she didn't have anything

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00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:07,000
Speaker 1: in her closet. Nothing okay, she had some sports clothes

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00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:10,440
Speaker 1: and and that's about it. And then the house was clean,

501
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:14,760
Speaker 1: everything was nice. I was like, man, this is exactly

502
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:17,639
Speaker 1: what I thought it was. And so then you know,

503
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:19,600
Speaker 1: I spent two or three hours over there. We got

504
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:22,760
Speaker 1: some lunch, um, I got to help hold the baby

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00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:26,159
Speaker 1: a little bit, and I was like, like, as soon

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Speaker 1: as I can get her a vehicle so I can

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00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:32,000
Speaker 1: alleviate that stress. At right before she had the baby,

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00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:36,040
Speaker 1: at one point she was working three jobs. Because I asked,

509
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:38,920
Speaker 1: I said, how are you affording diapers and formula? And

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00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:41,399
Speaker 1: she went to a closet and opened it up, and

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00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:44,760
Speaker 1: literally she spent every penny she had from those three

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00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,720
Speaker 1: jobs preparing for the fact that she wasn't going to

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00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:50,240
Speaker 1: have a job, and she just has. She has diapers

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00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:52,720
Speaker 1: all the way up the satisfy. She had a whole

515
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:56,119
Speaker 1: closet full of formula, and she's like, look, I know

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00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:58,560
Speaker 1: this is my third, my fourth kid. I know exactly

517
00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:01,880
Speaker 1: what it's gonna take. So for the nine months prior

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00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:05,280
Speaker 1: when I got pregnant, I just started every every extra

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00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:08,879
Speaker 1: pinion I had went to diapers and formula. How can

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00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:14,440
Speaker 1: I find how can people find this go fund me? Um,

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00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:17,639
Speaker 1: I mean, I'll put a great in the description, so

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00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:19,560
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, what's the title of it?

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00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:22,480
Speaker 1: You know it's it's um, it's just Jake's wig. I

524
00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:26,119
Speaker 1: have a single mother could use pay it forward. But

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00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:27,840
Speaker 1: like I said, I'll post a link right in the

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00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,199
Speaker 1: description so people could go to it. And right now,

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00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:34,719
Speaker 1: it's at thirty five over the goal of seven thousand dollars,

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00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:38,400
Speaker 1: which you know is a picture the four kids there. Yeah,

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00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 1: and it's really a noble goal. I mean seven thousand dollars,

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00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 1: there's not a whole lot to ask to make it

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Speaker 1: back on. It's a big difference for a single mom. Thyeah. Absolutely,

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00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 1: And to be honest with you guys, there's so somehow

533
00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:52,960
Speaker 1: I started to go fund me and I tried to

534
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 1: shut one of them down, but it's got three hundred

535
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 1: dollars in it too, so I'm really at like four thousand,

536
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 1: and I found like five vehicles at six thousand, so

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00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:04,960
Speaker 1: I put seven thousand in there, but I think I'm

538
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,960
Speaker 1: gonna be able to get out at like five six thousands,

539
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 1: So it's really about fifteen two thousand bucks left, and

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00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 1: I'm gonna post some more money in there too, not

541
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 1: a lot, but I'm gonna see some more in there also.

542
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 1: So we're getting really close um to being able to

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00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:22,720
Speaker 1: get it done. But it's just one of those things.

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00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 1: And then once I get her a vehicle and we're

545
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:26,840
Speaker 1: gonna get it. She got a job already, so she's

546
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 1: got a job at Walgreen's as a pharmacist assistant. And

547
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 1: then the next thing I'm gonna start on is getting

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00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:36,600
Speaker 1: this LPN license done. And then after that we're gonna

549
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 1: move her back to Tennessee and get her out of Davenport, Iowa.

550
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:42,720
Speaker 1: Because Davenport, Iowa was where she's from. It's not a

551
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:46,680
Speaker 1: very healthy environment for she was prospering in Nashville, Tennessee.

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00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:50,720
Speaker 1: So that's a long plan, and then a long plan

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00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 1: after that is to get her r N license. And

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00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 1: I guarantee you at four or five years when we

555
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:57,520
Speaker 1: follow back on this, she's gonna be a rock star,

556
00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 1: rock star with four kids and s a mom killing it.

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00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:03,520
Speaker 1: That's cool, man, And and I think it's great to

558
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 1: hear that it's just a story that spoke to you

559
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 1: and that you're helping someone out. I mean, that's what

560
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 1: we're here to do is just help out other people,

561
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 1: especially someone who is a fan of your work. And yeah,

562
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:15,240
Speaker 1: it's great to see. So I will post a link

563
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:17,480
Speaker 1: to that if you guys want to throw in. And

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00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:19,520
Speaker 1: once she gets a car, I think it will make

565
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 1: a huge difference. Um. Another important thing, I wanted to

566
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 1: get your take on Chief Eddie Gallagher. Pretty Much every

567
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 1: Navy see I've had on the show, I just have

568
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:30,040
Speaker 1: wanted to get their take because you know it's something

569
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 1: that you're dear to them. Kristen Beck gave me her take,

570
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:35,640
Speaker 1: which I'm gonna be playing. Um that episode is going

571
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 1: up next week or in a couple of weeks. Um,

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00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 1: I just wanted to hear what you thought. And and

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00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:44,840
Speaker 1: also do you know Eddie? He might be around your age, right, Yeah,

574
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:47,520
Speaker 1: I don't know him personally, but you know, at the

575
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:50,880
Speaker 1: end of the day, I just I find it amazing

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00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:54,200
Speaker 1: that you know, there's there's war crimes, right, There's a

577
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:57,680
Speaker 1: bunch of things you can do that are not right. Um,

578
00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:01,520
Speaker 1: but you know when you killers out there killing people,

579
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 1: that's what the killers do, right, And a lot of

580
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 1: people want to sit back and be nice about it,

581
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:11,560
Speaker 1: and hey, man, killers kill people, and the killers that

582
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 1: we got right now. And and so I just had

583
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 1: a kid at Buzz that they quit right and I

584
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 1: was telling his dad. I said, listen, man, I said,

585
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:22,640
Speaker 1: this life ain't for everybody. I said, your your son

586
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 1: grew up really nice life. I said, there's a lot

587
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 1: of grimy, gritty, hardened killers in the seal teams right now.

588
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 1: We've been killing people for twenty years right now, right

589
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 1: And I said, it's a different type of guy that

590
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 1: thrives in that environment. And I said, your son didn't

591
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 1: thrive in that environment because he's not that type of guy.

592
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 1: And so it's like marines. If you send marines into

593
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 1: a town, they're gonna kill people. That's what marines do.

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00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 1: The Marines right now, I've been killing people for the

595
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 1: same twenty years. If you sent them into a town,

596
00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:00,960
Speaker 1: they're gonna kill bad guys. And in this case, the

597
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:05,320
Speaker 1: seal is accused of executing a teenage detainee. I mean,

598
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 1: you're not saying that's what seals do, are you? No,

599
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 1: not at all. But what I am saying is like

600
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:15,480
Speaker 1: we're going back and accusing how long ago was it?

601
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 1: It was two thousand and what when he got when

602
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 1: they're when they're saying he did. I mean it was

603
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 1: last year. I believe it was. It was an ISIS detaine,

604
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 1: it was an ISIS detainee outside Missle. Yeah, but I

605
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 1: thought the incident was a couple of years old, was

606
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 1: it not. I mean no, I mean that the charges

607
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:43,240
Speaker 1: came relatively quickly after the incident. Yeah. I read the article,

608
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:48,600
Speaker 1: I read the story. Yeah, I'm looking at it. And

609
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 1: then he came up on charges in eighteen Okay, so

610
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 1: two years ago. So here's what I know. If it

611
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 1: was that big a deal, they would have got him

612
00:32:57,080 --> 00:33:00,160
Speaker 1: there because the Seals are gonna let you do them

613
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:02,160
Speaker 1: ship right, Like, They're just not gonna let you. Like

614
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:05,040
Speaker 1: someone in his platoon would have said something they did

615
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 1: if it was stupid. But that's exactly why this case

616
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 1: came about. Was guys and his platoon spoke out, and

617
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 1: in his his his defense claims that it's a grudge

618
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 1: that his subordinates have against him. And I couldn't tell you,

619
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 1: you know, are the charges true or not. But I

620
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:27,880
Speaker 1: mean people in his platoon clearly did speak out against it. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not gonna sit here and pick a

622
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 1: side of the sense, right, but I know this when

623
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 1: you go to combat, people get killed, and I don't

624
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:39,840
Speaker 1: lay my head on that one, right like, and killing

625
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 1: bad guys is what it is, right Like, I mean, look, hey,

626
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:46,480
Speaker 1: here's what I'm gonna say. Look at what isis was

627
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 1: doing the people when they capture. But is that the bar?

628
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 1: Is that the bar? I mean? Is isis the bar? Like?

629
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 1: We just have to no no, But but you have

630
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 1: to meet savagery with savagery period. And I'm not saying

631
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not passing judgment on what Ed Gallagher did.

632
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:04,760
Speaker 1: I wasn't there. I didn't see it. I don't know exactly,

633
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:10,480
Speaker 1: but I know this. I watched them dudes burn uh

634
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:15,920
Speaker 1: Jordanian pilot in a cage. I watched them ground another

635
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:20,880
Speaker 1: dude in a cage. Okay, it is what it is,

636
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:25,320
Speaker 1: right Like, if you send me over there and my

637
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 1: job is to kill people, and we start killing people,

638
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 1: and that just is what it is. So you know,

639
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:34,440
Speaker 1: and I don't want it to be taken out of context,

640
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 1: like we go over there and we kill everybody. But

641
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, I don't know the

642
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:41,360
Speaker 1: Gallagher story. I wasn't there. I know this. In the

643
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 1: fog of war, a lot of crazy stuff happens. Okay,

644
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:48,400
Speaker 1: security rounds are administered, right, some guys are getting in

645
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:51,320
Speaker 1: trouble for security rounds at one point. I know this.

646
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 1: If you're on the ground and I gotta go buy you,

647
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 1: I don't have a problem with the security round in

648
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:57,920
Speaker 1: you because the last thing I want you to do

649
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:00,080
Speaker 1: is get up sometime in the future and shoot me

650
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:05,279
Speaker 1: in the back. So, you know, the whole fact that

651
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 1: he was a detainee and he was in handcuffs and

652
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 1: all the other stuff. Yeah, maybe maybe he didn't go

653
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:14,880
Speaker 1: down as clean as everybody thinks it did. So, but

654
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 1: that's why he's going to get an opportunity to kind

655
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:20,399
Speaker 1: of represent himself. And you know, the witnesses are gonna

656
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 1: come forward. And we're in America, and you know, I'm

657
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:25,440
Speaker 1: not the President of the United States, because if I

658
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:28,439
Speaker 1: was the president, you know, the rules of engagement would

659
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:33,360
Speaker 1: be a little bit different. Oh yeah, I mean this

660
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 1: has been it's it's been a controversial subject. The one

661
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 1: thing that I'll be honest that remains kind of consistent,

662
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 1: at least on here of the seals that I've spoke to.

663
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 1: I mean, you were saying, well, you're saying is very similar,

664
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:47,840
Speaker 1: honestly to what Kristen Beck said to me and what

665
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:50,200
Speaker 1: I see a lot of other seals who have a

666
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:53,680
Speaker 1: presence on social media saying, I mean, I've heard your

667
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 1: take on this Jack, which a lot of people agree with.

668
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 1: The Navy seal community, the guys who were like in

669
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:01,759
Speaker 1: the public at least, there's been a great deal of

670
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:03,840
Speaker 1: support for this guy, it seems well. I mean, we

671
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 1: all have a tendency to close ranks, right when when

672
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 1: there's an accusation and it becomes not just protecting the

673
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 1: individual but protecting the unit. Um. There's so there's a

674
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:18,279
Speaker 1: tendency to do that. Um. But I mean it all,

675
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:20,360
Speaker 1: it will shake out in the in the court martial,

676
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:22,399
Speaker 1: I suppose, you know, the facts will come at, facts

677
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 1: of the matter will come out, people will testify under

678
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 1: oath um. And you know, like Jake said, I wasn't there.

679
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:29,920
Speaker 1: I can't tell you if if this guy did it

680
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 1: or not. Um. But I'm also not going to excuse

681
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:37,239
Speaker 1: the alleged behavior. I don't think it's okay for our

682
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 1: soldiers to engage in that type of behavior. No, not

683
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 1: at all, right, And That's what I'm trying to get across.

684
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 1: I just you know, I think a lot of times

685
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:50,719
Speaker 1: the general public doesn't understand how nasty the business is,

686
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 1: and we do a good job of kind of keeping

687
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 1: the nastiness away from them. And that's why we signed

688
00:36:57,600 --> 00:36:59,879
Speaker 1: up to go do what we what we did, right.

689
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:02,439
Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, if you start

690
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:04,839
Speaker 1: sitting there, you know, like we all know the reason

691
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 1: for callouts, right, Like we had to do callouts now

692
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 1: because they were they were sending six year olds out

693
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:14,359
Speaker 1: to blow us up. Call out and so yeah, now

694
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 1: you now you gotta shoot six year olds, right And

695
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:18,319
Speaker 1: people are like, oh, you don't shoot six year olds.

696
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:20,400
Speaker 1: What you do is they're gonna blow you all up,

697
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:24,719
Speaker 1: right like, And that's the thing, Like, you know, a

698
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 1: lot of guys like I got, you know, I mentor

699
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:28,360
Speaker 1: a bunch of guys going in the seal teams and

700
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 1: they all asked me the same thing, and I say, listen, man,

701
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 1: you you're signing enough for a really dirty game. When

702
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 1: I said, you gotta understand like how grimy and gritty

703
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 1: you have to be to thrive in that environment, and

704
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 1: it always shocks them. They're like, well, you know really,

705
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 1: and then they get to the teams like I just

706
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 1: had a kid come back from deployment two months ago,

707
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 1: and he's like, oh my god, Jake. He's like, you

708
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 1: you couldn't have told me or prepared me any better

709
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:57,239
Speaker 1: for just how rough it really was out there. When

710
00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:00,040
Speaker 1: I said, yeah, Bud, like it's there's no glamoring in

711
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 1: the war. There's nothing glamorous about nothing, you know. And

712
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:06,719
Speaker 1: and in our culture and our society like cowboys and

713
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:09,399
Speaker 1: Indians and all of that stuff, we try to glamorize

714
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:13,320
Speaker 1: all of that stuff then stripped them up. We stripped

715
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:15,799
Speaker 1: the moral ambiguity out of it and try to make

716
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 1: it like, you know, they're good guys and bad guys, um,

717
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 1: and that's it. We don't really prepare these young guys

718
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:25,279
Speaker 1: for for war. No. And like the example I'm gonna

719
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:26,920
Speaker 1: give you on the Eddie gallaghery deal, Like, look at

720
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 1: my guy Keith Barry. Right, I know Keith. I was

721
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 1: in buzzed with Keith. I grew up with Keith at

722
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 1: Seal Team eight. He was in my field for tune.

723
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 1: I've known Keith for twenty one years at this point. Right,

724
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 1: So he gets charged with rape in San Diego, gets

725
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 1: found guilty, goes to prison for two and a half years.

726
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 1: The whole time, everybody in the community knew exactly what happened.

727
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:55,719
Speaker 1: He had been framed, right and not framed. He had

728
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 1: been railroaded by the Vice Admiral Jack and the president.

729
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 1: And sure enough, you know, what was it six eight

730
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:08,319
Speaker 1: months ago, it all comes out, all the stuff comes out.

731
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 1: The admiral that had to find him guilty came out

732
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 1: and made a statement that he was he was forced

733
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 1: to make a guilty plea when he knew he was innocent,

734
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 1: and now he's out of jail. It was it was

735
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 1: deemed that there was Undoe command influence over the trial. Yeah. Yeah,

736
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:31,400
Speaker 1: but like when it went down, like she had supped

737
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:33,360
Speaker 1: with like whatever it was. She had stud with X

738
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 1: number of team guys in the last like six months

739
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:38,759
Speaker 1: at her command. He had been sleeping with her for

740
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:40,759
Speaker 1: like two years at that point, Like it wasn't a

741
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 1: secret what was going on. And the President basically came

742
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:46,200
Speaker 1: in and sold that day, find him guilty, I don't care.

743
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 1: And so they found him guilty, you know, but luckily,

744
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 1: you know in in in America, that justice prevailed and

745
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:57,800
Speaker 1: he got out. But I mean, shoot, he's in the military,

746
00:39:57,840 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 1: and they're gonna give him a big check perspend in

747
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 1: two and a half years in prison. Jesus, you know. So,

748
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:08,000
Speaker 1: you know, I hope that the Eddie Gallagher thing works

749
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 1: out right, positive or negative. You know, it's a big

750
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 1: teaching point for the community. We always have them, right,

751
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:19,320
Speaker 1: you know, guys smuggling cocaine out of out of Puerto

752
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:25,840
Speaker 1: Rico in twin eight you know, twin eighties, filled to

753
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:29,920
Speaker 1: the top with cocaine. The guy back, someone turn them in.

754
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:31,880
Speaker 1: They try to sell it to a d and a

755
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:37,480
Speaker 1: cover officer. Boom boo boom. You know are scuba tanks.

756
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:44,040
Speaker 1: If I know my sc you know, either he didn't

757
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:45,800
Speaker 1: do it and he'll be fine, or it's gonna be

758
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:49,839
Speaker 1: a very you know, salient teaching point for the teams. Yeah,

759
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:53,040
Speaker 1: and there's been quite a few of them in recent years.

760
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 1: I mean, just since I've been on board here, there's

761
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 1: there's just a lot of stuff that has happened in

762
00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:59,279
Speaker 1: the Seal community, a lot of stuff. I mean, well,

763
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:01,920
Speaker 1: I think the Seal have a lot of uh the

764
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:04,959
Speaker 1: public uh spotlight has been placed on them. But also

765
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:07,920
Speaker 1: seventh Special Forces Group has had a whole number of

766
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:12,400
Speaker 1: incidents that you know, we've covered, um, including cocaine smuggling

767
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:15,880
Speaker 1: out of Columbia. Oh, that's that's the that's the guy. Right,

768
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 1: that was a good one, right, Like, but but here's

769
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:20,840
Speaker 1: the deal, right, And I tell people this, and and

770
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:22,440
Speaker 1: you know, I got a bunch of young dudes, and

771
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 1: I say the same thing. If you're not a criminal,

772
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 1: don't try to do criminal stuff because you you may

773
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:33,440
Speaker 1: think criminals are stupid, but they've been criminals their whole lives.

774
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:35,799
Speaker 1: They understand the system and how to work the game.

775
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:40,399
Speaker 1: Non criminals put eight kilos of cocaine and some stuff

776
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 1: and trying to shoot it from the embassy back to

777
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:45,880
Speaker 1: the United States, Like it's just gonna make it, you

778
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:49,320
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Non criminals like, get seven or

779
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:52,440
Speaker 1: eight seals together in a portune and then hey, let's

780
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 1: smuggle some cocaine back and make a quick hundred thousand

781
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:57,239
Speaker 1: dollars apiece. But yeah, that would be great. And then

782
00:41:57,239 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 1: they're flashing around money in San Diego or Fort Bragg

783
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 1: or wherever. Yeah, and it comes out who's gonna sell

784
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:07,120
Speaker 1: it to? I don't know. I'll find somebody when we

785
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 1: get back. Yeah. Okay, that's that's what non criminals say, right.

786
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 1: So it's you know, it's we all learn from it,

787
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 1: and you know, and then again you gotta look at

788
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:19,719
Speaker 1: you know, like I say this all the time, the

789
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 1: guys in the seal teams, the guys especially forces, they're different.

790
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 1: They're savages, right, and and sometimes you get them guys

791
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 1: that go off the reservation and they got problems. Right.

792
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:34,840
Speaker 1: Look at I'm gonna give it primasapp just happened. Okay,

793
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:38,759
Speaker 1: the two cops on duty and the female cop op

794
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:42,759
Speaker 1: duty playing Russian roulette jack. How many times have you

795
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 1: heard of that one happened? I've heard of it. I

796
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:47,480
Speaker 1: mean you remember the Marines used to play the trust

797
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 1: test all the time. M hmm, yeah, yeah, it's horrible.

798
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:55,840
Speaker 1: It was so on a on a Barretta M nine pistol.

799
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:57,719
Speaker 1: It has a double action trigger, so it's like a

800
00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:01,520
Speaker 1: really heavy trigger pull for as the hammer goes back,

801
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 1: so as you pull the trigger, the hammer goes back,

802
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:05,320
Speaker 1: and then when you reach the breaking point that the

803
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 1: hammer goes forward and the gun fires. So what Marines

804
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 1: were doing was having one of them point the pistol

805
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 1: at the other and they pull the trigger back as

806
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 1: far as they could without supposedly without breaking you know,

807
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 1: the trigger so that the hammer falls and a bunch

808
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:23,879
Speaker 1: of marines got killed doing this very stupid. Oh yeah, yeah,

809
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:26,439
Speaker 1: but but but we say stupid. But that's the life

810
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:30,919
Speaker 1: of a savage, right, Like savages do savage stuff. Savages

811
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 1: play Russian roulette, right, and and that's what they did

812
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:37,880
Speaker 1: Sat Louis too, you know, say Louis cos playing Russian

813
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:41,719
Speaker 1: Roulette and we're looking around like are you crazy? But

814
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:45,359
Speaker 1: they're different, right, Like that's they're different like people. They're

815
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:49,640
Speaker 1: they're not normal, average human beings. They're Type A super

816
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:54,359
Speaker 1: high performing, massively capable individuals, and there's thresholds of what's

817
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:57,239
Speaker 1: accessible or completely different than anybody else in the world.

818
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 1: And you know, like like you're saying at the trust test, right,

819
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:04,440
Speaker 1: I mean probably every four years we have two seals

820
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:06,440
Speaker 1: that have a quick draw contest and shoot each other

821
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 1: because their capabilities are about the same, and they both

822
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 1: kill each other. It's the same thing, right, Like this

823
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:15,680
Speaker 1: to me is no different than that than everything else

824
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:18,239
Speaker 1: that's going on. It's just a fact of you have

825
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:22,360
Speaker 1: Type A super high performing people that are massively capable,

826
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 1: and their levels of acceptance are different than everybody else's. Yeah,

827
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:30,719
Speaker 1: I mean I I don't know what to say because

828
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 1: I can't really relate to it, and I mean, it's

829
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 1: it's a dumb thing to do. I get you know,

830
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 1: I get your point, but you know, especially for these

831
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 1: guys to needlessly lose their lives out of probably boredom,

832
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:46,399
Speaker 1: and you know, and yeah, well that's one of those

833
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 1: points where it's like you think you're a bigger badass

834
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:50,399
Speaker 1: than you are, and you're kind of letting your ego

835
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:53,440
Speaker 1: take off, like don't you know, playing the Trust Test

836
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:56,320
Speaker 1: or Russian Roulette or whatever. And then no one should

837
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:59,640
Speaker 1: be losing their life over something something like that. I mean, jeez,

838
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:07,480
Speaker 1: and alcohol normally liquid courageous, yea, man, you know, they're

839
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 1: drunk and they get real drunk, and then I'm faster

840
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:13,799
Speaker 1: than you are. No, I'm faster than you are. You think,

841
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:18,400
Speaker 1: so let's let's do it. Boom. Then they both did Damn. Well,

842
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:20,680
Speaker 1: I guess we were both really fast, right, but we

843
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:23,279
Speaker 1: saw it. You know, this just happened three years ago.

844
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:26,399
Speaker 1: The two guys drowned in the swimming pool. Right, same deal,

845
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:30,440
Speaker 1: it's the same deal. It's it's just different mechanism. Right, Hey,

846
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 1: I can go down and back. I give you a

847
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 1: hundred meters underwater. If you can do what I can

848
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:40,919
Speaker 1: do it, I bet I can go farther than you can. Yeah,

849
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:43,839
Speaker 1: let's go. Boom. They jump in the water. They make

850
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:46,800
Speaker 1: it seventy five, and they make it seventy four and

851
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 1: they both drowned it passed out and die within one

852
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:54,480
Speaker 1: meter of each other in the same pool. Did they

853
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:56,400
Speaker 1: think for a second and say, hey, you go first,

854
00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 1: I'll watch you, and then I'll go You watch me. No,

855
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:04,400
Speaker 1: I'm gonna beat you in this pool underwater. Let's go,

856
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 1: And it's seventy four ms. One passed out at seventy five,

857
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:10,240
Speaker 1: the other one passed out, and then they both drowned

858
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 1: the pool right there together. You might like this. I

859
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:15,840
Speaker 1: might like this story, Jake. I read this book about

860
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:19,959
Speaker 1: um the Second Ranger Battalion dudes who robbed a bank

861
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 1: out in Washington State and uh oh yeah, yeah yeah.

862
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:27,759
Speaker 1: And the the team leader would have his privates do

863
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 1: what he called a suicide check, so he'd throw him

864
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:31,840
Speaker 1: a pistol and they just have to put it to

865
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 1: their head and pull the trigger. And it was it

866
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 1: was the same kind of concept as the trust test,

867
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:40,160
Speaker 1: Like he was basically brainwashing these young guys um what

868
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 1: you know, culminated in a bank robbery, of course, but

869
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:49,880
Speaker 1: it comes back to they're wired completely different than anybody

870
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:52,719
Speaker 1: else in the country and and and that's why they're

871
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:55,400
Speaker 1: in those jobs, right, like Army Ranger like you know,

872
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 1: I grew up right here for Lewis, Like I grew

873
00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:00,200
Speaker 1: up like I got a Ranger tab and a Second

874
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 1: Ranger bat tab, and I've had them since probably the

875
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:05,480
Speaker 1: second grade. And all I want to do is the

876
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:07,879
Speaker 1: Army Ranger Gen Barrett. That's it. That's all I want

877
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:10,080
Speaker 1: to do. A Second Ranger back. And then I went

878
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:12,360
Speaker 1: to the Naval cap and things kind of change, but

879
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:15,440
Speaker 1: like I still have those tabs, and so like Second

880
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:17,759
Speaker 1: Ranger back in high school, we used to go beat

881
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:21,160
Speaker 1: those guys up because all the Rangers think they're tough

882
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:22,640
Speaker 1: and they can fight, and we would go up to

883
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:25,840
Speaker 1: till it come and we were just mall Rangers and so,

884
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:28,239
Speaker 1: you know, like it was what we did is like

885
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 1: we're high school athletes and we love to fight, and

886
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 1: so we're like, yo, let's go bang Rangers tonight. We

887
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:34,320
Speaker 1: go up to till it come. They'd be in the

888
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:38,160
Speaker 1: bars and wait, hey, man, Rangers you know, Oh, man,

889
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:43,400
Speaker 1: I dropped the f bone. Okay, don't I can, but

890
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:45,239
Speaker 1: I don't. You know, I work for a great dude,

891
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 1: so I gotta be careful, so we would go fight

892
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 1: them dudes, you know. And that's just but I grew

893
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:54,360
Speaker 1: up in the second Ranger back. You know, they had

894
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:57,080
Speaker 1: to have some guys from Death Group, some support personnel

895
00:47:57,680 --> 00:48:01,520
Speaker 1: robbed the bank in Virginia Beach. We is uh silence

896
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 1: MP five, it says the FB. I like, one minute,

897
00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:11,080
Speaker 1: who that silence five? Damn Neck and the Seals teams. Okay,

898
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:13,640
Speaker 1: let's go over to Damn Neck. Okay, okay, Oh there

899
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:15,520
Speaker 1: they are. Hey, give me those four people right there.

900
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:20,399
Speaker 1: Do you guys just rob a bank? Um? Sure enough.

901
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:24,319
Speaker 1: Let's see where the MP fives were Friday afternoon. Oh,

902
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 1: these four guys hip the MP fives have to go

903
00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:28,520
Speaker 1: to the range. Let's go the range video. Oh they

904
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:31,800
Speaker 1: weren't it the range? Oh? Here they are driving in

905
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 1: their car to the brain. Imagine that, right? Was that

906
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:44,640
Speaker 1: uh late nineties early two? Yeah, it was. It was

907
00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:47,759
Speaker 1: largely the same thing with the Rangers. Uh. You know,

908
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:50,680
Speaker 1: they forgot to take the license plate off the getaway car.

909
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 1: You know, it was like putting two and two together

910
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:55,840
Speaker 1: wasn't too difficult. I think they busted them, you know,

911
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 1: like a within a week. How about how about the

912
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:03,000
Speaker 1: fact that it's the way they moved right, see See,

913
00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 1: no one understands this, Like criminals don't move like rangers

914
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:08,839
Speaker 1: move right as soon as they came in the bank,

915
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:11,279
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, those are military things. Oh those are

916
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 1: special for the Oh oh oh yeah, he said clear,

917
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:18,200
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we're good, no problem. Oh yeah, we're time

918
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:20,400
Speaker 1: on target. He may go with the range of bat

919
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:25,000
Speaker 1: and get get whoever robbed. And the thing is that

920
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:28,880
Speaker 1: no one understands. All of the guys in a in

921
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:33,359
Speaker 1: the FBI and the Secret Service, they're all military guys too,

922
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 1: so they know exactly what it looks like. They're like, oh, hey,

923
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:39,879
Speaker 1: that's Joe from second Range of Bat right here. Yeah,

924
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:42,680
Speaker 1: and they know exactly what a normal bank robbery looks

925
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:47,319
Speaker 1: like by comparison one pent. And that's why it comes

926
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:51,560
Speaker 1: back to right like like special forces guys, they think

927
00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:54,520
Speaker 1: they're capable of doing anything right, which they are for

928
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:57,120
Speaker 1: the most part, but being a criminal isn't one of them.

929
00:49:57,160 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 1: Because criminals have criminal minds, and special of forces guys

930
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:02,920
Speaker 1: don't think like criminals do. And criminals have been the

931
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:05,319
Speaker 1: prison a couple of times, so they know, hey, man,

932
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:07,400
Speaker 1: if I don't take the license, play off this getaway car,

933
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:10,399
Speaker 1: I'm going to prison. So they remember to take the license.

934
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:17,279
Speaker 1: Played off the getaway car. Awesome, awesome, But yeah, you

935
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:19,840
Speaker 1: know I'm right here. I tell this story. I just

936
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:21,959
Speaker 1: told the story the other day. This one's incredible. Okay.

937
00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:26,040
Speaker 1: So I'm in tenth Trade. I come home. I come

938
00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:29,440
Speaker 1: home from my morning run and there's a bunch of

939
00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:32,799
Speaker 1: black cars in my driveway. My dad says, hey, stay

940
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:34,640
Speaker 1: in your room. You're not going to school today. Like,

941
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:37,160
Speaker 1: all right, cool. I don't know what's going on. But

942
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:38,920
Speaker 1: I go to my room. I'm playing video games on

943
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:42,680
Speaker 1: my on my TV. I look out my window and

944
00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:44,720
Speaker 1: I'm looking on my window right now in my bedroom,

945
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:47,160
Speaker 1: and there's a wood fence a little hill, and there

946
00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:50,279
Speaker 1: was like seven guys in suits with long guns on

947
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:56,399
Speaker 1: the fence. That's that's not normal. Cut. So I said,

948
00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 1: let me turn on the news. Turn on the news.

949
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:03,080
Speaker 1: All over the news. Bank President's daughter from Washington Mutual

950
00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:07,880
Speaker 1: gets kidnapped in Bellevue. Okay, so I don't put two

951
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:10,960
Speaker 1: one two together because it's like six thirty in the

952
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 1: morning right now, and the bank residents daughter get kidnapped

953
00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:18,239
Speaker 1: at like six o'clock. Bellevue is like an hour and

954
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:23,120
Speaker 1: a half away, hour and fifteen minutes. Okay. So I'm

955
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:25,120
Speaker 1: sitting in my room. I go back to playing video games.

956
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:27,279
Speaker 1: More suits arise. I come out of the living room.

957
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:28,719
Speaker 1: My dad says, go back to your room and go

958
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:31,360
Speaker 1: back to my room. I look out the windows and

959
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:35,360
Speaker 1: there's probably fifty suits and now there's guys in camouflage

960
00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:38,799
Speaker 1: on my stins. M all right, I don't know what's

961
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:43,960
Speaker 1: going on, but something's happening. Okay. So about nine o'clock

962
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:45,640
Speaker 1: in the morning, my dad comes in and said, hey, man,

963
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:48,160
Speaker 1: get your stuff for school. Is going to school. So

964
00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:50,080
Speaker 1: I getting getting the car, said Dad, what's going on?

965
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:52,480
Speaker 1: And say I can't tell you. I'm like all right,

966
00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:56,799
Speaker 1: So I drive to school. Don't think nothing of get

967
00:51:56,880 --> 00:52:00,400
Speaker 1: to school. We're going supposed to go to practice, and

968
00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:02,920
Speaker 1: all of a sudden they locked the school down. I'm like, man,

969
00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:06,560
Speaker 1: that's going on to cancel practice. About five thirty they

970
00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:09,000
Speaker 1: send everybody home. No practice that day, and I don't

971
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:11,120
Speaker 1: remember what I think it was. I don't remember what it's.

972
00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:12,799
Speaker 1: Probably this time it might have been golf. I don't

973
00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:14,520
Speaker 1: remember what the sport was. I was in maybe the

974
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:17,160
Speaker 1: end of wrestling season. But we all went home. So

975
00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:21,200
Speaker 1: I walked in the house, and now there's two hundred

976
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:26,080
Speaker 1: cars at my house. Okay, so I mean as I'm as,

977
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:29,640
Speaker 1: I'm my buddies driving me home. Literally, the whole street

978
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:32,680
Speaker 1: is black cars on both sides of my house, both

979
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:37,319
Speaker 1: blocks like two black cars. And so I still hadn't

980
00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:39,480
Speaker 1: put two to two together. I come home, I turned

981
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:42,880
Speaker 1: to keep on. They got my neighbor's house on TV. Okay,

982
00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:47,680
Speaker 1: so here's what happened. This dude kidnapped the girl, the

983
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:54,000
Speaker 1: bank president's daughter, at like six o two. At six

984
00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:58,640
Speaker 1: them ten suits showed up in my yard. He still

985
00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:00,360
Speaker 1: hadn't even got home yet. He had an hour and

986
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:03,200
Speaker 1: a half hour and fifteen minute drive from Bellevue back here,

987
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:08,040
Speaker 1: and somehow in fifteen minutes, they had people on station

988
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:11,279
Speaker 1: at his house waiting for him to come home. You

989
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:13,520
Speaker 1: tell me how they do that? How how did they

990
00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:16,640
Speaker 1: know that that guy in that house on Lazied Street

991
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:20,120
Speaker 1: and Silicon Washington kidnapped the big president's daughter over an

992
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:22,600
Speaker 1: hour and fifteen minutes away, and they knew it in

993
00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:29,120
Speaker 1: fifteen minutes and could drive here because they were already

994
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:32,919
Speaker 1: watching him. Something was was going on, right, So here's

995
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:37,080
Speaker 1: what's crazy. So by seven o'clock there was like a

996
00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:42,240
Speaker 1: hundred people here. He hadn't showed up yet. He pulled

997
00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:45,160
Speaker 1: in the ship's driveway and he had put her in

998
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:47,120
Speaker 1: a trunk and they didn't see her in the car.

999
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:50,239
Speaker 1: They had snipers all around. They they say, hey, we

1000
00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:55,279
Speaker 1: didn't see her. So at like four thirty they made

1001
00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:59,120
Speaker 1: entrance into his house and he drove through the garage

1002
00:53:59,239 --> 00:54:01,800
Speaker 1: and there's this little alleyway behind this house. It doesn't

1003
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:03,719
Speaker 1: look like an alleyway. It looks like a little grass hill.

1004
00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:06,080
Speaker 1: But if you know the area, you know you could

1005
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:08,759
Speaker 1: drive up it. And he got away, and then they

1006
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:10,719
Speaker 1: had a big shootout in the park across from the

1007
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:15,520
Speaker 1: high school and so and they killed him right, And

1008
00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:18,320
Speaker 1: so then we found out that he had murdered his

1009
00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:20,959
Speaker 1: first two families. He murdered one family in the fire

1010
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:22,720
Speaker 1: and then the other family died in a car crash,

1011
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:26,839
Speaker 1: and all this stuff started coming out. But ever since then,

1012
00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:30,320
Speaker 1: if you even like people want to go do crimes

1013
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:31,840
Speaker 1: and stuff. I'll be like, Yo, let me tell you

1014
00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:35,080
Speaker 1: this story about my soft, mean year high school. When

1015
00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:38,080
Speaker 1: the FBI showed up to a guy's house fifteen minutes

1016
00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:42,000
Speaker 1: after he committed the crime. Fifteen minutes after he committed

1017
00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:43,719
Speaker 1: the crime, they were at his house already, just waiting

1018
00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:46,400
Speaker 1: for him to come home. You tell me how they

1019
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:48,640
Speaker 1: did it. I don't know. I know it's the government.

1020
00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:50,560
Speaker 1: They got a lot more tools than we got. So

1021
00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:53,879
Speaker 1: if you will be a criminal, just understand that you're

1022
00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:55,080
Speaker 1: gonna have to take a couple of months to go

1023
00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:56,800
Speaker 1: to prison a couple of times before you can actually

1024
00:54:56,840 --> 00:54:59,440
Speaker 1: figure out how to be a criminal. Man, that's an

1025
00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:02,080
Speaker 1: avasing story. What's this guy's name? If people want to research,

1026
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:06,440
Speaker 1: that's got to be an insane story. Oh man, If

1027
00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:08,520
Speaker 1: I know, if you type in and you know this

1028
00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:12,920
Speaker 1: was pre internet days, this is eight eight seven. If

1029
00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:17,680
Speaker 1: you type in still from Washington, ste I L A

1030
00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:23,319
Speaker 1: C O O. M. Washington and then Washington Mutual Bank

1031
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:28,120
Speaker 1: president's daughter kidnapped, it'll have to come up. I think

1032
00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:33,759
Speaker 1: people want to do the crazy, crazy story. Oh dude,

1033
00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:38,040
Speaker 1: having a Lafayette Street so I live at thirteen fourteen Lafayette.

1034
00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:43,360
Speaker 1: It's probably thirteen. It's Jennie Light's house the thirteen sixteen,

1035
00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:49,520
Speaker 1: maybe thirteen fourteen thirteen, somewhere in there. Well, what ended

1036
00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:54,280
Speaker 1: up happening to the bank executive's daughter. She was fine.

1037
00:55:54,440 --> 00:55:57,080
Speaker 1: She's tied up in a chair in the house, drugged up.

1038
00:55:57,680 --> 00:55:59,920
Speaker 1: He hadn't done anything to her. He literally was just

1039
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:02,960
Speaker 1: trying to get money from her. Like he wasn't. He

1040
00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:05,600
Speaker 1: wasn't like a petty or anything like that. He just

1041
00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:07,800
Speaker 1: was He was kidnapped her to try to get some

1042
00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:11,040
Speaker 1: ransom money from the president's but the president of bank

1043
00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:15,839
Speaker 1: watching the mutual Yeah, that it had a cool ending. Man,

1044
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:19,879
Speaker 1: this has been a fun episode, some some great stories here.

1045
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:22,319
Speaker 1: I'm glad we got into the Eddie Gallagher stuff because

1046
00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:24,279
Speaker 1: had we have not, we wouldn't have had all these

1047
00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:27,120
Speaker 1: awesome stories. Um always love having you on. Man, I

1048
00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:28,719
Speaker 1: didn't expect to get into all of this, and I

1049
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:31,759
Speaker 1: think the audience is gonna love it. So um at

1050
00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:36,239
Speaker 1: Jake's Wig on Twitter, z w E I g at

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Speaker 1: Jake's Wig nineteen eleven on Instagram, Facebook dot com, slash

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Speaker 1: Jake's Wig. Dude as indeed, you're screwed, uh and man,

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Speaker 1: it sounds like you're up to a lot of great

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Speaker 1: stuff now being the director of player development at University

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Speaker 1: of Illinois. Uh. And I'm glad we touched base man.

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Speaker 1: It's been a few years and and we'll definitely do

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Speaker 1: it again sooner. Awesome, man, Gay, make sure you give

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Speaker 1: me a beep on that f you you know, I'm

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Speaker 1: saying I appreciate it. Man, that was a fun episode.

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Speaker 1: And it's funny because if you look at like my

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Speaker 1: prep sheet here, I didn't have that much prepared to

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Speaker 1: talk about. You know, I just figured out, well, Jake

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Speaker 1: on again, and I had no idea we were getting

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Speaker 1: to all those stories, but they were so amazing stories.

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Speaker 1: And when I asked him for the name of the guy,

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Speaker 1: you could tell that he you know, this audience is

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Speaker 1: very um suspicious of hearing crazy stories like that, but

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Speaker 1: I mean, he had every detail. I was sure if

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Speaker 1: you do google that it actually did happen. And as

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Speaker 1: some of these stories are just unbelievable that you guys

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Speaker 1: exchanged about, you know, basically guys in the military trying

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Speaker 1: to you know, smuggle and drugs. He's in government logistics

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Speaker 1: lines to smuggle contraband that's that's that's federal time. If anything,

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Speaker 1: this episode was a deterrent if you're thinking of yeah, man, no,

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Speaker 1: I think that definitely concur with Jake, Like the temptations

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Speaker 1: are always there, especially like just speaking from my own

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Speaker 1: experiences like an SF and Special Forces dudes, they get

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Speaker 1: the point all over the world, all downlike training missions

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Speaker 1: and stuff like that, and the temptations are there. The

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Speaker 1: alcohol is there, the drugs are there, the women are there, Um,

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Speaker 1: the guns are there. You know, it's the opportunities are there,

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Speaker 1: but it just isn't worth it. Um, in a number

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Speaker 1: of ways, it's the wrong it's the wrong thing to

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Speaker 1: do professionally, it's the wrong thing to do when you

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Speaker 1: represent our country. But beyond just getting on like my

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Speaker 1: high horse, you know, a little morality tail or something,

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Speaker 1: it's just it's the not the right thing for the

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Speaker 1: soldier either, Like it's it seems tempting at the time,

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Speaker 1: but like it's just not worth going to fucking prison. Man.

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Speaker 1: I told the story about the guy who is um

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Speaker 1: when I when I was in fifth group. If you

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Speaker 1: rep dot com. Uh with that, Yes, let's get into

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Speaker 1: that story. Yeah. I don't know if I told this

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01:01:35,480 --> 01:01:38,240
Speaker 1: one before or not. I may have, but it was

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01:01:39,240 --> 01:01:41,720
Speaker 1: my last year in the army. Uh, so it's probably

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01:01:41,800 --> 01:01:46,680
Speaker 1: two thousand ten. Uh. It wasn't a guy in my battalion.

1149
01:01:46,720 --> 01:01:49,320
Speaker 1: It was a guy across the way in another battalion

1150
01:01:49,360 --> 01:01:51,919
Speaker 1: and fifth Group, and UM came into work one morning

1151
01:01:51,960 --> 01:01:54,000
Speaker 1: found out this guy got arrested. He had a cash

1152
01:01:54,560 --> 01:01:57,480
Speaker 1: of C four plastic explosives that he had stolen from

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01:01:57,560 --> 01:02:00,920
Speaker 1: the military buried out in its back yard like a

1154
01:02:01,040 --> 01:02:04,560
Speaker 1: t F moved in and arrested him. And uh. The

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01:02:04,880 --> 01:02:08,120
Speaker 1: story that was given was that a couple of hunters

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01:02:08,640 --> 01:02:11,120
Speaker 1: were moving around through the woods and they came across

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01:02:11,240 --> 01:02:13,880
Speaker 1: this thing and well, I like, that didn't make sense

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01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:16,880
Speaker 1: to any of us, Like what the fuck? And I

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01:02:17,600 --> 01:02:20,440
Speaker 1: heard a different story years later, which makes a lot

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01:02:20,520 --> 01:02:23,560
Speaker 1: more sense, that he was having a house party and

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01:02:23,720 --> 01:02:26,040
Speaker 1: they were talking. He was bragging to people about how

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01:02:26,080 --> 01:02:28,480
Speaker 1: he had you know, C four buried out in his

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01:02:28,640 --> 01:02:31,680
Speaker 1: backyard somewhere. And one of the girls invited to the

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01:02:31,760 --> 01:02:35,120
Speaker 1: party was a secretary for a t F and so

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01:02:35,240 --> 01:02:36,800
Speaker 1: she went back to her employer and was like, oh,

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01:02:36,840 --> 01:02:39,480
Speaker 1: this SF guy said this and that. So they moved

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01:02:39,520 --> 01:02:41,760
Speaker 1: in and they got him. And I mean, I'm I

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01:02:41,880 --> 01:02:45,400
Speaker 1: bet that guy's still in prison today. Um. I never

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01:02:45,520 --> 01:02:47,920
Speaker 1: really like investigated it or like checked up on that,

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01:02:48,240 --> 01:02:51,600
Speaker 1: but yeah, what are you gonna do? My question is

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Speaker 1: what what the funk was he gonna do with that

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01:02:53,400 --> 01:02:57,960
Speaker 1: much plastic explosives? That's like, I like, uh an amount

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Speaker 1: you used to like demo or bridge or something like that.

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Speaker 1: Do you think the idea is to sell it? I really, honestly,

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Speaker 1: I really don't know. I really don't know. I would

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Speaker 1: think that that would be the objective right to, I mean,

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Speaker 1: make profit off of it. You know, SF guys are

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01:03:12,760 --> 01:03:15,960
Speaker 1: kind of like hoarters too in a sense, Like I think,

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Speaker 1: like all of us have like have our little like

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Speaker 1: zombie preparation kit in a sense, like a friend of mine,

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Speaker 1: uh from the Philippines. He made the comment, He's like, yeah,

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01:03:25,600 --> 01:03:28,160
Speaker 1: in the Philippines, everyone has in their backyard like a

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01:03:28,280 --> 01:03:31,480
Speaker 1: buried cache of ammunition. They call it your savings. Those

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Speaker 1: are my savings because they're savings for later you never know, right, Um,

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Speaker 1: but a hundred pounds of C four seems a little

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01:03:40,680 --> 01:03:44,560
Speaker 1: excessive for personal use, right, Like I just need I

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Speaker 1: you know, maybe you need some some you know, demo

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Speaker 1: for personal use. Uh should should the ball go up?

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Speaker 1: Should the balloon go up? But yeah, a hundred pounds

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Speaker 1: or more, I mean that seems a little excessive. Uh.

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Speaker 1: You know, obviously you can't expose is um names on this,

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Speaker 1: but it makes me wonder and you know your case

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Speaker 1: because you guys have all these great stories. You're going

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Speaker 1: back back and forth on do you know anybody who

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Speaker 1: did commit some type of crime, uh, you know, to

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Speaker 1: make profit and they did get away with it and

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Speaker 1: you know no one will ever know about it. Um there,

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Speaker 1: I mean, doing dirt happens all the time. Um, guys

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Speaker 1: like embezzling opt fund money and coming home. Um that

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Speaker 1: I mean that happened all the time all across the force. Um,

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01:04:32,200 --> 01:04:38,680
Speaker 1: guys writing off weapons. So like I'll I'll tell this

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Speaker 1: This other story is something that happened in Special Forces.

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Speaker 1: There was one team they're driving down the road and

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01:04:45,120 --> 01:04:47,880
Speaker 1: I E ED went off somewhere. Um, no one was

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01:04:47,960 --> 01:04:51,400
Speaker 1: heard or killed, you know, bomb went off. Whatever. The

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Speaker 1: team sends up to higher a form saying equipment lost. Uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, equipment that had to be written off because

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Speaker 1: it was all destroyed in the explosion. Apparently all twelve

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Speaker 1: of this team's suppressors for their m force we're blown

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Speaker 1: up in this I E. D. That didn't destroy the

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Speaker 1: vehicle or hurt anyone. And I'll just leave it at that.

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Speaker 1: You'd be the judge, you'd be the judge. Um. But

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01:05:21,240 --> 01:05:23,640
Speaker 1: stuff like that happens all the time. But then, yeah,

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Speaker 1: then when you get into this kind of stuff where

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Speaker 1: like guys are trying to smuggle home cocaine and stuff

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Speaker 1: like that, as Jake got into, like these guys don't

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Speaker 1: know what to do with that. And it's also like

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01:05:36,160 --> 01:05:39,200
Speaker 1: you're bringing more and more people into the conspiracy and

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01:05:39,320 --> 01:05:42,800
Speaker 1: people just can't keep their fucking mouth shut. Um, and

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Speaker 1: they start flashing money around. UM, questions get asked. You know,

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01:05:47,920 --> 01:05:51,880
Speaker 1: guys are having team parties and they're throwing money around. UM,

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01:05:52,600 --> 01:05:55,600
Speaker 1: stuff like that starts to come out. There's a guy

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Speaker 1: I probably shouldn't repeat some of these stories, but I

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01:05:57,800 --> 01:06:00,200
Speaker 1: knew a guy who is who is a paralegal. Because

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01:06:00,200 --> 01:06:02,680
Speaker 1: the people are anonymous, this guy who was, he was

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01:06:02,760 --> 01:06:07,120
Speaker 1: a paralegal for a special operations unit. And UM, boy

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01:06:07,200 --> 01:06:10,000
Speaker 1: did this dude have stories um because he had to

1228
01:06:10,120 --> 01:06:12,920
Speaker 1: deal with the teams that were fucking up, and so

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01:06:13,520 --> 01:06:16,280
Speaker 1: he had this whole story about how like they lost

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01:06:16,360 --> 01:06:19,240
Speaker 1: all this equipment or one guy like sold it off.

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01:06:20,080 --> 01:06:23,080
Speaker 1: Um and uh. And so they had like a kiddie, right,

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01:06:23,160 --> 01:06:25,440
Speaker 1: they had like a coffee pot, and they're like, we

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01:06:25,520 --> 01:06:27,360
Speaker 1: got to raise money to like so we can like

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Speaker 1: put the money back so it doesn't it's not missing.

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01:06:30,960 --> 01:06:33,120
Speaker 1: And then they would like get drunk and like spend

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01:06:33,160 --> 01:06:34,960
Speaker 1: all the money in the kiddie, So then they have

1237
01:06:35,080 --> 01:06:36,800
Speaker 1: to start it all over again and went back and

1238
01:06:36,880 --> 01:06:40,520
Speaker 1: forth until they finally got busted. Like just perpetual funk ups.

1239
01:06:40,760 --> 01:06:44,280
Speaker 1: I mean that's when it comes down to UM. But yeah, again,

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01:06:44,400 --> 01:06:46,760
Speaker 1: it's it's just not fucking worth it, man, to go

1241
01:06:47,040 --> 01:06:49,080
Speaker 1: fucking with that kind of stuff. It's just not worth it,

1242
01:06:49,120 --> 01:06:52,360
Speaker 1: and it's not worth any of our guys going to jail. Um.

1243
01:06:53,400 --> 01:06:56,320
Speaker 1: Just I mean, like I said, it seems the temptation

1244
01:06:56,440 --> 01:07:00,160
Speaker 1: is there, but it's not worth it. Yeah, don't do it. Um. So,

1245
01:07:00,480 --> 01:07:02,200
Speaker 1: last thing, do you want to give an update on

1246
01:07:02,640 --> 01:07:05,080
Speaker 1: the Jeffrey Epstein stuff? Oh? Yeah, Well I was just

1247
01:07:05,200 --> 01:07:08,840
Speaker 1: reading an article yesterday about it. Um in the Uh

1248
01:07:09,040 --> 01:07:12,240
Speaker 1: that uh, the the woman that wrote the perversion of

1249
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Speaker 1: Justice article. Um, I think her name is Julie Brown. Um,

1250
01:07:15,800 --> 01:07:19,200
Speaker 1: she did an update on on Epstein because just downtown

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Speaker 1: here in Manhattan, they had a hearing yesterday and it

1252
01:07:23,080 --> 01:07:26,080
Speaker 1: was about whether or not they're going to unseal the records. Um.

1253
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Speaker 1: So basically, what has happened is that the sweetheart deal

1254
01:07:31,760 --> 01:07:35,560
Speaker 1: that Jeffrey Epstein got down in Florida is being overturned

1255
01:07:35,800 --> 01:07:39,840
Speaker 1: because the courts violated the civil rights of the victims

1256
01:07:40,120 --> 01:07:43,400
Speaker 1: by not informing them and not informing these young women

1257
01:07:43,960 --> 01:07:46,960
Speaker 1: that this sweetheart plea deal was being made, so they

1258
01:07:47,080 --> 01:07:50,960
Speaker 1: never had the opportunity to give testimony or appeal or anything.

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Speaker 1: So because their civil rights were violated, this thing is

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Speaker 1: going it looks like it may very well go back

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Speaker 1: to trial all over again. And now there's a debate

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Speaker 1: happening whether or not the records, the court records should

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Speaker 1: be unsealed. The ones that were are released, um, some

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Speaker 1: weren't released at all, and others are heavily redacted. Like

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Speaker 1: one of the lawyers made the point like this is

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Speaker 1: like the kind of records you get from the CIA

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Speaker 1: when you make a FOIA request. Like everything's just blacked out,

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Speaker 1: and there's some resistance because um other I believe both

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Speaker 1: other victims and other perpetrators will be revealed when these

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Speaker 1: when these records are released, and the I believe the

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Speaker 1: I believe Dershawitz Epstein's lawyer is now saying go ahead

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Speaker 1: and release them. Um. Mike Sernovic actually had a lawyer

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Speaker 1: down there who was also trying to get the records released.

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Speaker 1: And but I both and I'd have to go back

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Speaker 1: and read that article, but I think it was the

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Speaker 1: lawyer for um, um what's her name, Maxine uh Ghislaine Um,

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Speaker 1: the woman who was allegedly the madam for Jeffrey Epstein.

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Speaker 1: Another very wealthy woman. Um she is her lawyers are

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Speaker 1: trying to have the records remain sealed. So that's the

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Speaker 1: debate that's happening right now. Interesting all right, Well, um,

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Speaker 1: we'll keep you updated on that. Maybe another article in

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Speaker 1: the future from you, since you've written about it. I

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Speaker 1: wrote about it like way way back before it was

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Speaker 1: anyone wanted anything to do with this story. And um,

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Speaker 1: you know, I give credit to the Daily Beast for

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Speaker 1: staying on the story and writing updates to it. And

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Speaker 1: also um Julie Brown, the journalist who wrote this big

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Speaker 1: expose that finally got the courts to take some action. Um,

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Speaker 1: so there there are a lot of people wanted to

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Speaker 1: ignore this and and make it go away, but there

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Speaker 1: were a few out there who stayed on it. Well, UM,

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Speaker 1: I guess that's it. Man, be sure to pick up

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Speaker 1: Jack's book. Uh, Murphy's preorder it now. The book went

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Speaker 1: to printer, so it's being printed right now. Yeah, we're

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Speaker 1: we're very close to uh the release dates, so pick

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Speaker 1: it up. A lot of people are excited for it.

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Speaker 1: I get all these comments on Instagram and it's great

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Speaker 1: to see. And then last thing is go check out

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Speaker 1: The Power of Thought. We did an interview with Lard

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Speaker 1: Hamilton's Big Wave of Surfer and yeah, we're gonna push

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Speaker 1: that really hard because it's a pretty big guest for

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Speaker 1: us on there. So if you go check out the

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Speaker 1: Power of Thought. Um, we did a video that will

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Speaker 1: be on YouTube as well as anywhere else you get

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Speaker 1: your podcasts. That should be up right now as you're

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Speaker 1: listening to this, So if you haven't had enough podcast,

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Speaker 1: go check that out. Next episode, another guy we haven't

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Speaker 1: had on the podcast in a long time, Mike Schlitz,

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Speaker 1: will be back with us way too long. Yeah, excited

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Speaker 1: for that. Then we'll do a Q and A, so

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Speaker 1: once again send your questions to Softwrep dot Radio at

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Speaker 1: softwrep dot com. We're gonna do a full Q and

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Speaker 1: A show um, and then I'm gonna air the Christen

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Speaker 1: Beck interview. Uh So, a lot of great stuff on

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Speaker 1: the horizon, a lot of good content this past week

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Speaker 1: that I hope you guys are enjoying as always go

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Speaker 1: Um like our Facebook page, I'm say primarily because that's

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Speaker 1: that one we're really still building to Look up Software

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Speaker 1: Brady on Facebook and like it at Socwera Brady on

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