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Speaker 4: What you learned, what you well, you didn't go anywhere,
Speaker 4: you were right here. You didn't change times, you know?
Speaker 2: Is that one of it is you don't have to
Speaker 2: change seats, you know, doing none of that. Just he
Speaker 2: was with the.
Speaker 5: Veteran players, He was with Nate whose Everson was on.
Speaker 5: There was Holly was out here. I heard that.
Speaker 2: It was good man.
Speaker 3: I think I asked like three questions and then they
Speaker 3: took care of It was fun that's fun.
Speaker 2: They just went sit back and put on filing on.
Speaker 2: Oh oh it was.
Speaker 3: It was, you know, enlightening and it was like one
Speaker 3: of the questions I asked him was who is your
Speaker 3: who was your favorite position coach?
Speaker 2: And why? And you played college ball.
Speaker 3: I think people understand when you go start playing at
Speaker 3: college and you play in the pros, you get a
Speaker 3: position because you spend so much time with that guy
Speaker 3: and ultimately there's somebody who made you a better player
Speaker 3: and in some cases a better person.
Speaker 2: Who was that for you? Jim Levitt, Oh yeah, ended
Speaker 2: up coaching something. Jim Levin. Jim Levin, I would I
Speaker 2: would credit him for that. Man.
Speaker 4: He was probably the first person that ever tapped into
Speaker 4: my maniac You understand it there, Yeah, you realize that
Speaker 4: you're playing at this level, but then there's a whole
Speaker 4: other level to be at. And he was the dude
Speaker 4: for me that kind of like showed me like, this
Speaker 4: is the level of football that you can play, this
Speaker 4: is the way it's supposed to be played at.
Speaker 2: At k State. So yeah, man, he was he was incredible.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he had a good head coaching career. He started
Speaker 3: that program at South Florida.
Speaker 2: Down there for years.
Speaker 4: Yes, Unfortunately he's had some other things follow him with
Speaker 4: other players over the years, you know, building a USF roster.
Speaker 4: I think he started that thing from the ground up basically,
Speaker 4: and it was a defensive coordinator linebacker coach for the
Speaker 4: San Francisco forty nine.
Speaker 2: Is a great guy. About you.
Speaker 5: I had too, to be honest with you, earlier in
Speaker 5: my first I believe two years, it was Brett Maxie.
Speaker 2: So he was my sav coach.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Brett MAXI went to Madison High School and I
Speaker 4: went to Lincoln, so we were arrival schools. Every time
Speaker 4: I see him, I always called it wrong school. I
Speaker 4: don't even call him that big time with a Maxie.
Speaker 2: That's I still talk to him to this day. And
Speaker 2: you know, he was.
Speaker 5: He was very important to me as my you know,
Speaker 5: formative years in the National Football League, trying to show
Speaker 5: me how to navigate this thing and the ins and outs,
Speaker 5: and so he was. He was very important, you know,
Speaker 5: to my career early on and then as I developed
Speaker 5: into the player I was. It was Jerome Henderson who
Speaker 5: was here. I think he was here for he was
Speaker 5: here for about I had him for about.
Speaker 2: Four or five years here, and you know, he was outstanding.
Speaker 5: He really taught me how to, you know, approach the
Speaker 5: game mentally as far as film study and making sure
Speaker 5: you know, we both understood I wasn't the fastest guy
Speaker 5: out there, so I had to make sure I knew
Speaker 5: what the opponent was doing ahead of time to be
Speaker 5: at the right place at the right time. He's the
Speaker 5: guy that showed me all about, you know, breaking down
Speaker 5: film tendencies and quarterbacks and how to take advantage of
Speaker 5: things in that regard. So Henderson and Maxie were my two,
Speaker 5: you know, biggest influence as far as coaches and is concern.
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, it's it's it's it's huge. And I don't know,
Speaker 3: if you guys want seen your college football this weekend.
Speaker 3: You see you see where teams who lose and all
Speaker 3: of a sudden they if the if the head coach
Speaker 3: cost too much to get rid of the next guy's
Speaker 3: a coording.
Speaker 2: We can't pay you.
Speaker 3: We can't pay our forty four million to get rid
Speaker 3: of Brett vnnables, but we can get rid of set
Speaker 3: the trail the offensive court in I mean.
Speaker 4: This is.
Speaker 3: We see last night with the Jets that's over there,
Speaker 3: and I was like, okay, was it really Robert.
Speaker 2: Sala, No, it wasn't.
Speaker 4: The thing about come on, y'all, y'all tell the truth
Speaker 4: about everything. So don't do that with the Jets. Y'all
Speaker 4: know what's going on in New York right now.
Speaker 2: Come on.
Speaker 4: Now, the owner and the quarterback, whatever kind of cool
Speaker 4: they thought they could pull off and if that was
Speaker 4: gonna change things, it's not.
Speaker 2: They can't. They cannot trick football. It's the it's the owner.
Speaker 3: Because even before Aaron Rodgers got there, the Jets were
Speaker 3: messy in different ways and stuff.
Speaker 2: They're just still message out.
Speaker 4: Did you ever feel like they were building like before
Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers, that they were building to a point they
Speaker 4: got the b y U quarterback, Yeah, Zach Wilson, I
Speaker 4: mean you just felt like they were just a couple
Speaker 4: of pieces away and then all of a sudden, I mean,
Speaker 4: the ebb and flows of that, that organization. I mean, look,
Speaker 4: I got troubles.
Speaker 2: With my own I'm trying to keep my own house
Speaker 2: him out of the stuff. Yesterday though, yes, three quarters
Speaker 2: three quarter.
Speaker 5: At first, I was like, man, I don't know, it
Speaker 5: feels looking like it was a bad mistake by Timling.
Speaker 2: But russ Man he at least gave those receivers an opportunity.
Speaker 2: And that's all you can do.
Speaker 4: And you saw the difference when you have an actual
Speaker 4: quarterback that can make the throws. And Russ could still whatever.
Speaker 4: He's still having that peace shooter. He can still there.
Speaker 4: But then once he realized that we're in zone, like
Speaker 4: he just you can't tell him what you're in. So
Speaker 4: then he started picking them apart on the outside and
Speaker 4: for a wide receiver like pickings.
Speaker 2: You look, that's all he needed. That's all he needed,
Speaker 2: was like Russ, I'm glad he kept it chill on theo.
Speaker 2: You heard him on the posts. I thought he was
Speaker 2: gonna go in, but all like you know what, good
Speaker 2: for pickets? He kept it. They said it up, brother,
Speaker 2: don't do it. Don't do it. Don't do it, don't
Speaker 2: do it. You got out of it.
Speaker 3: They gave him the microphone, like w W. He can
Speaker 3: cut a promo real quick. He could have cut a
Speaker 3: promo real but but it wasn't the thing to do.
Speaker 3: And once again you marvel at how Mike Tomlin just
Speaker 3: finds ways to get it done.
Speaker 2: Crazy.
Speaker 3: He's a Hall of Fame coach. When you start talking
Speaker 3: about people and you look at who goes into the
Speaker 3: Hall of Fame. What Mike Tomlin is doing in Pittsburgh
Speaker 3: is good because neither of these quarterbacks were wanted by anyone.
Speaker 2: They just weren't.
Speaker 3: They take them, take them their organizations like we're good.
Speaker 3: The Bears are like, yeah, we're done. We're gonna go
Speaker 3: take Taylor Williams, Sean Payton, embarrassed Russ and take him go.
Speaker 3: And so here's I'm winning with those guys.
Speaker 4: And I guess I don't know about you, guys. We've
Speaker 4: gott an opportunity to watch so much football over the weekend.
Speaker 4: Just guys not calling dumb football. They they just don't
Speaker 4: be a dumb coach. And so many of the upper
Speaker 4: echelon teams, I promise you when it gets to the playoffs,
Speaker 4: they're gonna give you an opportunity cuts you out. A
Speaker 4: dumb coach. They just make dumb decisions. And Tomlin doesn't
Speaker 4: do anything to beat his team. He tries to play
Speaker 4: it all close to his vest. And I laughed yesterday
Speaker 4: when they got down into the red zone although they
Speaker 4: didn't get any points.
Speaker 2: He looked over at Arthur Smith.
Speaker 4: I don't know what he said, but he said something
Speaker 4: to Arthur Smith like, don't call no dumb right about now.
Speaker 2: And speaking of you know, kind of dumb stuff.
Speaker 5: I know he's supposed to be this genius offensive guy,
Speaker 5: but if you look over at the team were about
Speaker 5: to play against you in San Francisco, I mean he
Speaker 5: got a little bit of that Rodgerson and when he's
Speaker 5: you know, it ain't my bo Steve Wilks.
Speaker 3: Is this the person he got a little bit of that.
Speaker 3: I'm just saying, I don't know. We'll see, though the
Speaker 3: regression of the mean takes place. You can only do
Speaker 3: so much winning, especially when you don't have Patrick Mahomes
Speaker 3: and it comes your way. They're playing a first place schedule. Now,
Speaker 3: people forget Super Bowl losers usually have a tough time
Speaker 3: making the playoff, so and now now they're facing injuries
Speaker 3: as well. So the Cowboys are going to go into
Speaker 3: this game on Sunday against the forty nine ers with
Speaker 3: an opportunity.
Speaker 2: Can they take advantage? Though, Louie, that that's the question.
Speaker 4: Well, look, okay, so let's let's get into it.
Speaker 2: Trying to bet on You've bet on Masie and friends. Upfront.
Speaker 4: We learn that here's what I see Honestly, when you
Speaker 4: talk about Kansas City and San Francisco, I just think
Speaker 4: that that is his arch nemesis. And he falls apart
Speaker 4: when he's when and when Andy Reids across from him,
Speaker 4: he falls apart. If you've ever had the Archie nemicis
Speaker 4: is in life.
Speaker 2: That's his. That is his.
Speaker 4: That dude has his number and there's nothing he can
Speaker 4: do about it. I mean, he may be able to
Speaker 4: coach against everybody else. And just two weeks ago, everybody
Speaker 4: go to the Shanahan School, go to the shed. No,
Speaker 4: Andy Reid got his number, and Andy Reid has a
Speaker 4: defensive coordinator.
Speaker 2: That boy.
Speaker 4: I'm just it's as much credit as they give that offense.
Speaker 4: And Mahomes is absolutely amazing. He can play whatever speed
Speaker 4: you want to. You want to give you four hundred,
Speaker 4: I give you four hundred. I can give you one
Speaker 4: hundred and fifty. It's still make you look bad. But
Speaker 4: that defense man, they're playing to a whole another level.
Speaker 4: You guys talk about that complementary front and back style
Speaker 4: of football. When you got a guy like number ninety
Speaker 4: five on the game record, Hey man, wherever he from
Speaker 4: them people eat off the land.
Speaker 2: They eat off the land.
Speaker 4: Well, because that's a big old brother and he is
Speaker 4: disruptive and it makes so much so many things behind him,
Speaker 4: you know, easy and teams people always say, well, teams
Speaker 4: don't just need one guy.
Speaker 2: I'll be damned give me one of those.
Speaker 4: If I had one of those, that could cover up
Speaker 4: a lot of the awards that we got because they
Speaker 4: got one.
Speaker 2: On every level.
Speaker 5: You're talking about Chris Jones defensive line. You look at
Speaker 5: the lineback and court, this got Bolton, Yes, sir, he
Speaker 5: can play.
Speaker 2: He is a player out there. You know, he ain't
Speaker 2: the big time name, but he is a player.
Speaker 5: And then in the secondary you got probably one of
Speaker 5: the top three corners the National Football League.
Speaker 2: You talk about McDuffie on the outside, great safety in reed.
Speaker 2: So now do the Cowboys? Yeah, com much down.
Speaker 4: I mean, but we talked about come on, man, we
Speaker 4: talk about the elite of the league. This is right now.
Speaker 4: You would say that's the most dominant team in the
Speaker 4: NFL right now, and there are not a lot of
Speaker 4: teams that you could say that about. I mean, the
Speaker 4: parody in the NFL is at all time high because
Speaker 4: you don't know what the heck's gonna go on week
Speaker 4: the week week, the week.
Speaker 3: Well, you talk about the Chiefs being the forty nine
Speaker 3: ers nemesis, we can say that right now, this house Cowboys,
Speaker 3: this is the forty nine.
Speaker 2: Ers, and so two weeks to get ready. Mike has
Speaker 2: a good record off by weeks, but he come good.
Speaker 4: Putting it out there, yeah, putting it out there, Okay,
Speaker 4: put it out there.
Speaker 2: He got his number, you know, and Shanahan.
Speaker 4: Shanahan has something on Mike and it may go back
Speaker 4: all the way to Green Bay days. I don't I
Speaker 4: don't understand it. But it's that running game. I think
Speaker 4: the running game and the way that he takes up
Speaker 4: time of possession. He puts he puts him in a blender.
Speaker 4: He makes Mike frustrated and come away from his game plan.
Speaker 4: For me, Coach Zimmer, this is all this game is
Speaker 4: really about Zimmer and his defense because if they can't
Speaker 4: get any stops, if the forty nine ers do run
Speaker 4: the ball between thirty five to forty times, it's a
Speaker 4: wrap and you're back in the same place again. Regardless
Speaker 4: of injuries. No, I mean, everybody at this point is
Speaker 4: dealing with injuries. But this the embarrassment for me.
Speaker 3: I think it's nothing to Zimmer, they from an offensive standpoint,
Speaker 3: they have to run the football to keep the defense
Speaker 3: off the field, because indeed, and you just look at
Speaker 3: the losses then the losses and three losses have been bad.
Speaker 3: Defense is just living out there for over thirty minutes
Speaker 3: and they're just not good enough to be out on
Speaker 3: the field football field that long. And then from the
Speaker 3: red zone standpoint, I mean, that's I mean, you know,
Speaker 3: you're looking at one of the worst red zone offensive
Speaker 3: journeys in the game. And then the turnover battle giving
Speaker 3: the ball away. So there's defensively, you're correct, they've got
Speaker 3: issues there.
Speaker 2: But my gossh the offense ain't.
Speaker 3: Ain't you got to help them a little bit, the
Speaker 3: quarterback and wide receiver. I mean, you know, they could
Speaker 3: come together, you know, get on the same page of it,
Speaker 3: act like they might like each other, act like they've
Speaker 3: seen each other a couple times.
Speaker 2: But going into this year, that's fact, you know what,
Speaker 2: That's true.
Speaker 5: When you look at this offensive line, you know, well,
Speaker 5: it's young, it's a young offense of line.
Speaker 2: But going I didn't think.
Speaker 5: We would see the struggles of a Zach Martin at
Speaker 5: that right guard position. I didn't think we would see
Speaker 5: the struggles of a Terrence Steele on the right side.
Speaker 5: You know, I know Zach Martin's getting up there in
Speaker 5: the age's a lot of football, but you know, I
Speaker 5: don't want to say the drop off was, you know, unbelievable,
Speaker 5: but it's it's kind of a roller coaster right now,
Speaker 5: and it's it's not him exactly.
Speaker 2: It's not him.
Speaker 5: So that that to me is kind of the the
Speaker 5: alarming part because you're thinking, Okay, I got I got
Speaker 5: this right side. We thought the struggles was going to
Speaker 5: be on the left with with Goton bet on it.
Speaker 5: Now it's like where do you go your two best
Speaker 5: offensive linemen right now? Tyler Smith all pro, the Connor
Speaker 5: Bebe is holding it down in the middle. So it's
Speaker 5: he's performing better than you know.
Speaker 3: On the break they talked about some of the issues
Speaker 3: that he's had and then people have film on him.
Speaker 3: So so there's it's challenges all the way. Which two
Speaker 3: rookies you got, You're gonna have it. You didn't expect
Speaker 3: the right side to play poor.
Speaker 2: They've they've been well.
Speaker 4: They talking about the twists and stunt I didn't see
Speaker 4: the break the twists and stunts and I think for
Speaker 4: any NFL offensive lineman, you're gonna struggle with that, especially
Speaker 4: depending on conference that you come from.
Speaker 2: You saw the.
Speaker 4: University of Texas and against Georgia what they struggled with.
Speaker 4: I mean, it's a different it's a different ballgame when
Speaker 4: you get to this level.
Speaker 2: Obviously.
Speaker 4: I'm just saying what you deal with is in front
Speaker 4: of you, and I think I trust now what you
Speaker 4: were saying about BB that he is if I'm just
Speaker 4: we're giving everybody percentages. His percentages better than the previous
Speaker 4: guys that you just named, and I wouldn't have guessed that.
Speaker 4: I wouldn't have guessed that either. But I mean, right now,
Speaker 4: Still is just having some breakdowns. Scouy's having some breakdowns.
Speaker 4: Guidon is documented his breakdowns. But guys, you know, and
Speaker 4: being a broadcaster, as I'm broadcasting games, you tend to
Speaker 4: fall in love with certain words because you can see
Speaker 4: the hunt the same thing a hundred times and you
Speaker 4: can't describe it the same way over and over again.
Speaker 4: But time on task is one of the words, one
Speaker 4: of my comfort words. It's my Yeah, you know, it's
Speaker 4: time on task. It sounds so good, but I can't
Speaker 4: say it a hundred times. And that's what I have
Speaker 4: a problem with right now with DAK and CD. These
Speaker 4: guys have too much time on task to make these
Speaker 4: kind of mistakes. And when Troy Aikman calls you out
Speaker 4: on running and you know Troy ain't doing it because
Speaker 4: he's trying to give you a hot take or you know,
Speaker 4: put you down, it's just what he's seeing. It's just
Speaker 4: how you call out guys and talk about what you
Speaker 4: see on film.
Speaker 2: You shouldn't have this dog.
Speaker 4: You guys have been together too long not to have
Speaker 4: that connection at this point.
Speaker 3: So you're saying you're not buying the we didn't have
Speaker 3: training him together anymore storyline.
Speaker 4: I think that's that's that's already proven itself to be
Speaker 4: a lie. You can tell me what they but you're
Speaker 4: showing me a whole nother thing when I turn the
Speaker 4: tape on.
Speaker 3: It's not pretty, guys, It is not pretty. It is
Speaker 3: not pretty, all right? Coming out of the bye week?
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Speaker 3: All right, what's one thing you need to see this week?
Speaker 2: Hack? My famous football team coming off.
Speaker 4: The by You know what, I would pray for one technique,
Speaker 4: but you know, look, that's that's a whole nother prayer.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna pray for this running game to improve. It
Speaker 4: has to. That's that's horrible, the effort that we're getting.
Speaker 4: And I think we knew the signs were gonna be there,
Speaker 4: but to this extent, I don't know that I thought
Speaker 4: we would be struggling like this just to be able
Speaker 4: to run the ball and move the chains keep any
Speaker 4: balance with our offense. We have got to find a
Speaker 4: way to establish the running game. It is impaired. If
Speaker 4: we don't, this season is gonna get worse. With the
Speaker 4: opposition that the first play schedule that we're playing, the
Speaker 4: defenses that we're gonna see, and like you just said,
Speaker 4: man Or, you said that the offense has to do
Speaker 4: the defense of favor by at least establishing the run
Speaker 4: and at least eating up some of that time of
Speaker 4: possession and scoring.
Speaker 5: Yeah, for me, I just got to see two thams
Speaker 5: from this offense. One, you got to be better in
Speaker 5: the red zone. I mean, they're thirtieth right now in
Speaker 5: the league in the red zone. And I know, you know,
Speaker 5: Aubrey's an unbelievable kicker.
Speaker 2: He's doing his thing out there.
Speaker 5: But when you get to the reds on you gotta
Speaker 5: cash in against these teams, these playoff teams, three points
Speaker 5: at a time, it's just just not gonna win.
Speaker 2: It's just not gonna be successful.
Speaker 5: Not only are you, you know, kicking field goal, but
Speaker 5: you're turning the football over in the red zone. I mean,
Speaker 5: that's something that this team didn't do all last season
Speaker 5: they were able to capitalize on that. So they've got
Speaker 5: to get better in the red zone if they want
Speaker 5: to start winning some of these games and alleviate some
Speaker 5: of the pressure that this defense has back there right now,
Speaker 5: and also what kind of deals with it.
Speaker 3: You gotta be better on third down. You know, last
Speaker 3: game you were three or thirteen on the money down.
Speaker 5: I don't know if that's because you're not winning first
Speaker 5: and second down, or the third downs is too long,
Speaker 5: whatever the case may be, there's too much pressure, whatever.
Speaker 2: The case may be.
Speaker 5: You gotta start winning on these third downs, and you
Speaker 5: gotta be better in the red zone or else. I mean,
Speaker 5: this defense is just going to continue to be on
Speaker 5: the field for long stretches of time, and right now
Speaker 5: we see that.
Speaker 2: You know that can't be. That's not winning football. That's
Speaker 2: not the recipe for success.
Speaker 3: I'll piggyback on what you said, because this defense was
Speaker 3: built to rush the passer, and they simply can't rush
Speaker 3: the passer because they're honey leads and we don't have
Speaker 3: the leads because you're sitting around here kicking field goals.
Speaker 2: You know, you're sitting here with nine points instead of
Speaker 2: twenty one.
Speaker 3: It's just a different football game of this Cowboys team.
Speaker 3: You hope Michael Parsons can come back this week. Saw
Speaker 3: him at the fair last week. He seemed to be
Speaker 3: seem to be walking around just fine. He was there
Speaker 3: with his daughter. We're watching a donkey being born. What
Speaker 3: yeahwist Wow. There was a whole bunch of livestock in there.
Speaker 3: So you got goats running around, he got kangaroosnys being
Speaker 3: over there. There was all kinds of stuff and right
Speaker 3: there it was a donkey and I got some video, sure,
Speaker 3: a little bit of it.
Speaker 2: That's all good, pop out.
Speaker 3: I left, go ahead and get this done.
Speaker 2: We're all trust you.
Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, So but the fair, that's that's apparently
Speaker 3: that's a thing where you know, you can watch livestock
Speaker 3: be born right there at the fair.
Speaker 2: So so we were standing around watching it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so Michael, but he's he's he's he's got to
Speaker 3: come back.
Speaker 2: But they've they've got to.
Speaker 3: This is an offensive team, Okay, the bulk of your
Speaker 3: money's being spent on the offense. So the offense needs
Speaker 3: to come through out here Santa Clara, California, and we
Speaker 3: talk about the red zone, the quarterback and the wide
Speaker 3: receiver who just.
Speaker 2: Got big fat paychecks.
Speaker 3: Need to start a connection, you know something, act like
Speaker 3: you like each other, know each other, Hey, I know you.
Speaker 2: Oh, this is what we do on going to the
Speaker 2: end zone.
Speaker 3: And as somebody said on The Players Lounge Show, when
Speaker 3: you guys weren't in last week, may want to fight
Speaker 3: for the football, may want to help protect quarterback.
Speaker 2: What do you get from that?
Speaker 3: Like when you when you see him out there, you
Speaker 3: know the balls in it, and it might not be
Speaker 3: a perfectly thrown pass, but you know, sometimes see if
Speaker 3: they gonna get in there at least to pretend to
Speaker 3: be a defender back the ball down show something.
Speaker 2: It's like when the balls interccepted. It's just one of
Speaker 2: these again.
Speaker 4: Man protect quarterbacks saying what I shouldn't have to ask
Speaker 4: guys to do is care.
Speaker 2: I shouldn't have to ask you to care.
Speaker 4: You know I should and and have the just the
Speaker 4: effort to knock this pass down. Give us a fighting
Speaker 4: chance to at least get points. You know, we're in
Speaker 4: the red zone. We can't afford to have a We
Speaker 4: can't afford to have an interception right now, whether it's
Speaker 4: a great defensive.
Speaker 2: Player or not. We cannot contend fight for it.
Speaker 4: And that's the one thing that you cannot forgive this
Speaker 4: team for is effort and fight. If you don't have
Speaker 4: any of that, you just come on dollars. It's just
Speaker 4: going to continue to go on.
Speaker 2: Then, Like when you talk about the effort of a
Speaker 2: team to fight.
Speaker 5: The want two of a group of men out there,
Speaker 5: who does that fall off? I love when you ask
Speaker 5: rhetorical questions because y'all know, because y'all y'all know, because
Speaker 5: there's no.
Speaker 3: K more to blame in this situation. So where do
Speaker 3: we go? You know, Offensively, it's been staggnant. You talked
Speaker 3: about the effort to fight that this team needs to have,
Speaker 3: and we just haven't seen it. The offense is just
Speaker 3: it's right now, it's lacking creativity. There's no balance, it's
Speaker 3: forty five passes, it's that arms as Dak's shoulders and
Speaker 3: if he ain't on point, it's a bus right now.
Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know where you go with it.
Speaker 2: Right now?
Speaker 5: When you talk about offensively, defensively, you got a lot
Speaker 5: of people injured. Are you playing with a lot of
Speaker 5: guys that are usually hitting you for fifteen and eighteen reps.
Speaker 2: They got to play the entire game right now.
Speaker 5: So defensively, I'm not saying that's an excuse, but right
Speaker 5: now it is what it is.
Speaker 3: Yes, guys in the room, I mean, whether you fire
Speaker 3: McCarthy and bringing another coach next year, I mean, we're
Speaker 3: going to see a CD Lamb and we're going to
Speaker 3: see a Dak Prestoll here, We're going to see a
Speaker 3: Michael Parson. So the guys in the room have to
Speaker 3: take some ownership in this. I would talk frequently with
Speaker 3: Rodney Harrison about how things ran in New England and
Speaker 3: they talked about that room, like, yeah, Bill's gonna do
Speaker 3: this and that, but we have to make each other accountable.
Speaker 3: Now they're sitting around here, he and Teddy Bruski is
Speaker 3: sitting around here watching the young ones coming. Oh bag
Speaker 3: McDonald's again. I mean they're checking guys. They're taking the
Speaker 3: ownership of it. So the coaches will do there, but
Speaker 3: you you have to be able to look at it.
Speaker 3: I gotta be able to know, uh, yeah, Barry gonna
Speaker 3: say something, or we're gonna look at me with the
Speaker 3: side eye. That's that's the pressure, is what we put
Speaker 3: on each other. Kind of like when you was growing up,
Speaker 3: there was just certain stuff you didn't do because you knew. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I wanna hear my dad, so to me, that's fact.
Speaker 3: You know so so just like that, so same thing.
Speaker 3: But it's a good team. Hey man, I don't want
Speaker 3: to hear from him. I don't want them looking at
Speaker 3: me that way. Coaches gonna do whatever they do. But
Speaker 3: in the room, just the kind of accountability. I remember
Speaker 3: talking to Terryce nuwe we had this ab injury one
Speaker 3: you I'm like, dude, why are you out here? Why
Speaker 3: don't you say something. I'm not saying anything to the media.
Speaker 3: I want to use an excuse, and I got guys
Speaker 3: in the room. I need to play. There's other dudes
Speaker 3: who are playing hurt too. I can go out here
Speaker 3: and play. I ain't gonna be ninety percent, but I'm
Speaker 3: gonna go do my part. That's why I say, in
Speaker 3: my opinion, this has to go to the room ultimately.
Speaker 4: Right now, well, I mean bear to me, and you've
Speaker 4: been in locker rooms and you know exactly what I'm
Speaker 4: saying when I say, when the hardest workers on your
Speaker 4: team are your leaders, it makes everything easier. Guys have
Speaker 4: no excuse if if I see if Barries the best
Speaker 4: we got out here, and he's working twice as hard
Speaker 4: as the guy that is, you know, just got here
Speaker 4: undrafted free agent, and we all know you got your money.
Speaker 2: You have no excuses, That's true, you know.
Speaker 4: And when the young guys are seeing the millionaires, the
Speaker 4: guys that are bringing in all the fat, are, you know,
Speaker 4: fighting amongst each other whatever drama they got going on, like,
Speaker 4: it's silly to me. It doesn't that doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 4: But just talking football, all right, and less the drama
Speaker 4: is this team is beat up, all right, The team
Speaker 4: is beat up. Detroit didn't punt. No, Detroit didn't punt.
Speaker 4: So what that says is we can't. We have to
Speaker 4: be perfect in every way offensively and what offense is
Speaker 4: perfect every Sunday.
Speaker 2: And that's what we're asking dak to do. When he's
Speaker 2: coming back.
Speaker 4: Hey, punt, team ready, they come out, they punt, They
Speaker 4: come back any down by fourteen just like that if
Speaker 4: they don't take the awesome you know what I mean,
Speaker 4: It's like, that's how teams are scoring and scoring at will.
Speaker 4: And so by the time you get down by fourteen
Speaker 4: second quarter, you're coming out. You gotta put points on
Speaker 4: the board before half and then oh, by the way,
Speaker 4: they score again.
Speaker 5: It's real and it's gonna be embarrassing, and it's gotta
Speaker 5: be embarrassing, you know for this team to go.
Speaker 2: I mean, we look at that Detroit gay. I hate
Speaker 2: to keep bringing it up, but these dudes were throwing
Speaker 2: hooking laterals with the left tackle. The left tackle was
Speaker 2: catching the ball trying to jump into the indsole like
Speaker 2: the faith to a tackle that Detroit drives charge touchdown.
Speaker 2: You bringing up all the stuff. Hour was over. I
Speaker 2: had a hot down in the game. Yeah, it's crazy.
Speaker 4: The day off, I compared it on the show I
Speaker 4: was on to when uh when they put the horse
Speaker 4: head in his bed and the other guy fire man,
Speaker 4: I think that's what the That's what Dad Campbell came
Speaker 4: in here did. They used to be honor amongst thieves.
Speaker 4: Brother Like, it got to a point where coaches would say,
Speaker 4: we ain't gonna do you like this.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, We're gonna need marrish.
Speaker 4: He tried, he tried to smash on them, And to me,
Speaker 4: that's like I saw yesterday in the Kansas City game.
Speaker 2: Did you see Trent Williams getting getting to that fight.
Speaker 4: Okay, it was minor, all right, But to me, that's
Speaker 4: Trent will You spent sending the message to the rest
Speaker 4: of these guys like we're getting our head busts right now.
Speaker 4: Y'all don't have no fight whatsoever. We're getting this done
Speaker 4: to us at home. I'm gonna get ejected up out
Speaker 4: of here. Charles Oakley used to do it all the time.
Speaker 4: Xavier McDaniel. Guys back in the seventies, basketball players, they
Speaker 4: would getting they would get into a fight. We getting
Speaker 4: bleu out, somebody getting knocked out, laying here out here. Yeah,
Speaker 4: you gotta have some fight or else everybody's gonna continue
Speaker 4: to run over you like that. And we had literally
Speaker 4: had no fight. I was like, looking like I Bett,
Speaker 4: nobody get a jersey sign.
Speaker 2: You better not have more sign jersey.
Speaker 4: If you.
Speaker 2: Beat there like that. No, man, we can't be friends
Speaker 2: after that though, talk to me later. That was bad man.
Speaker 3: Then on the ball possession chart, when they said, you
Speaker 3: know how Detroit got the ball during the game, first
Speaker 3: possession got on kickoff, then ball obtained interception, punt punt downs, kickoff, kickoff, kickoff, fumble, interception,
Speaker 3: interception fumble. Meanwhile, for the Cowboys, how they obtained the
Speaker 3: ball kickoff, kick kickoff, kickoff, kickoff, kickoff, kickoff, kickoff, kickoff, kickoff, kickoff.
Speaker 2: Downs, that's that's nasty word. That's that's you getting handed
Speaker 2: to you. But I will go back and re re
Speaker 2: say this again.
Speaker 3: This is a football team that I would not be
Speaker 3: surprised if they're playing on Super Sunday Detroit.
Speaker 2: No, that's a good football team if we look around
Speaker 2: right now in the NFC, come on there, come on man,
Speaker 2: I'm sour, all right, and I'm sure that's what that's
Speaker 2: what that last they took that whooping stick to you.
Speaker 2: Look at what they did in Minnesota yesterday.
Speaker 4: And this I'm telling you, Dan Campbell, Dan Campbell that
Speaker 4: it is a good football team. But Dan Campbell will
Speaker 4: get in the way. Just just want my words, just
Speaker 4: want he will make a decision that you're hoping. That's
Speaker 4: what I'm hoping. I'm so mad at Detroit right now.
Speaker 4: I don't want to see nothing from Detroit. But Minnesota,
Speaker 4: Minnesota went up there and got a little taste. I mean,
Speaker 4: so you know, look at that. I mean they came
Speaker 4: out and Aaron Jones.
Speaker 2: Ran right in zone. So it looked like, oh, look,
Speaker 2: okay in Minnesota, we're coming to go.
Speaker 3: But Detroit, Man, that's that's a good football team because
Speaker 3: they play. They they're good upfrontrop into lean defensively, a
Speaker 3: good upfront. They the offensive line protects the quarterback.
Speaker 2: They have a run game.
Speaker 3: Aaron Gunn is really doing a nice job defensively. And
Speaker 3: this is without Ivory lt They they've got to go
Speaker 3: make a change since you got to make some type
Speaker 3: of trade to help out the defense age and.
Speaker 4: That's and that's another big problem for them, you know,
Speaker 4: missing him I think. I mean you talk about what
Speaker 4: he did for them as far as the defense, like
Speaker 4: everything ran off of the pressure that he was providing.
Speaker 4: Without it, I mean, where does it come from? Because
Speaker 4: he playing a lot of man on the backside, and
Speaker 4: that could be a problem. I mean, either way it goes,
Speaker 4: could be a problem for them. But right now, not
Speaker 4: right now, they good.
Speaker 3: I would imagine the team that goes to the Super
Speaker 3: Bowl from the NFC is going to be a North
Speaker 3: team the way the.
Speaker 2: Way they early on right now, be it the Detroit
Speaker 2: or Green Bay, Minnesota up there, I mean they loaded.
Speaker 2: I don't believe in Sam Donald though.
Speaker 3: But I'm with you one hundred and and with Hutchinson
Speaker 3: being gone, it helps the Packers a little bit.
Speaker 2: But I just look at it right now. I mean,
Speaker 2: I don't think anybody from the East is going to
Speaker 2: do it.
Speaker 3: And clearly we see a lot of awards out of
Speaker 3: the West, and right now, I look up and I say, Okay, yeah,
Speaker 3: the old NFC Norse Division, they're tough.
Speaker 4: But y'all know how to playoffs? Are y'all know how
Speaker 4: to playoffs? It's true playoff football as a whole another beast.
Speaker 4: And you come out of that first week by if
Speaker 4: Detroit gets the one seat, because that's probably that's what
Speaker 4: they're looking like right now. There could there could still
Speaker 4: be some trouble out there for him, all about who's hot.
Speaker 3: You spend two weeks and you know, you get you
Speaker 3: get a week off and people blowing you up, making
Speaker 3: me feel good, and you know, people start talking Super
Speaker 3: Bowl around you.
Speaker 2: So yeah, you can eat the cheese. I was about that.
Speaker 2: I was a part of that twenty sixteen finish this fight.
Speaker 2: They finished number one seed. Aaron did yoll but man, yeah,
Speaker 2: just wasn't ready. Was ready?
Speaker 5: Then wild card went all the way to the championship.
Speaker 5: So it's man, it's gotta get out the right time.
Speaker 2: Bring old stuff. Man that hurt he dine hurt yourself,
Speaker 2: head coach, Did you all right?
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Speaker 3: did Tledo win this week?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I believe they beat Northern I believe I looked that
Speaker 2: up though annoying, no rolling, I mean they didn't.
Speaker 3: They smacked up on and I was brother to few
Speaker 3: weeks off like the same we one day half party
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Speaker 4: Coming's been no parading he's been no parading. See what
Speaker 4: it's able to make you laugh or make you cry.
Speaker 4: You see what happened to them? You can't about shooting
Speaker 4: your water.
Speaker 2: That was exactly what it was.
Speaker 4: They got that dubble you heard from Ala coming Now
Speaker 4: Alva Kamara is talking about letting me up out of here.
Speaker 2: Whatever happened.
Speaker 3: I thought Unclemara was back and I got the whole
Speaker 3: There's there's some kind of stack where they talk about
Speaker 3: what Dennis Allen's record is against winning teams.
Speaker 2: Anyway, it's bad. It's they're like fire this man. I
Speaker 2: mean it is.
Speaker 3: I'm telling you man, same fan seen fan went from
Speaker 3: your social media paid the talking big noise to now
Speaker 3: you can't find them.
Speaker 12: Man, My goodness, Rookie, it's at terrible yeah man, yeah
Speaker 12: so brother, good luck to them.
Speaker 3: So this week we could see the return of Michael Parsons,
Speaker 3: which would be good for the Cowboys. Could see the
Speaker 3: return of run cmc for the forty nine ers, some
Speaker 3: guys that obviously need to get back, who are key
Speaker 3: integral parts of what's going on here.
Speaker 2: I'm just going to be really interested to see how
Speaker 2: this game goes.
Speaker 3: Because McCarthy is good after a bye week and just
Speaker 3: do you have some personal pride at this.
Speaker 5: Point in time, like you just got to just say,
Speaker 5: you gotta have some fight and hopefully I don't know
Speaker 5: what the word is on Bland, but hopefully he's able
Speaker 5: to come in here, because I have to feel like
Speaker 5: you gotta. If you got blanded there and he's able
Speaker 5: to return to even seventy five percent of what he
Speaker 5: was last year, you got three corners that can lock up.
Speaker 2: You got did you got bland? Jaylu to me, has
Speaker 2: been playing unbelievable ball in that slot.
Speaker 5: You gotta lock up on the outside and enough with
Speaker 5: this too highness. You gotta bring a safety down in
Speaker 5: the box. You gotta have more than they can block.
Speaker 5: You gotta stop the run. That's that's that's gotta be
Speaker 5: the key in this situation. You gotta lock up on
Speaker 5: the outside, bring them guys in the box and focus
Speaker 5: it be in on this run. You gotta force brock
Speaker 5: Perry to go out there and beat you with you arm.
Speaker 5: If he's able to go out there and throw for
Speaker 5: three seventy and four tubs, and that you got tip
Speaker 5: the hat a.
Speaker 2: You played in them a game. You did your game,
Speaker 2: But if you go out there and you let.
Speaker 5: This team get extra balanced on you let it's not
Speaker 5: fare so which my man's running back for the forty nine.
Speaker 2: Ers, now Mason there.
Speaker 5: You go ahead, and Mason go out there and run
Speaker 5: for over one hundred yards and Brock Perry is able
Speaker 5: to sprinkle in two and some change in a couple
Speaker 5: of touchdowns, it's gonna be a blowout. You gotta make
Speaker 5: this team be one dimensional, and I feel like the
Speaker 5: key to that is you gotta lock up on the outside.
Speaker 5: No Iu, who knows what Deebo Samuel's gonna look like
Speaker 5: out there. You gotta be able to lock up Kittle.
Speaker 5: But if you're able to do that, you gotta force
Speaker 5: it on Brock pretty shoulders. Cause we just saw his
Speaker 5: last game against Kansas City Chiefs. You know they have
Speaker 5: a great defense. The man was out there throwing some picks, man,
Speaker 5: and they were bad. It wasn't like they was tipped up.
Speaker 5: They were some bad inner cover all right. And if
Speaker 5: you're able to get the bazooka back and he's able
Speaker 5: to get some pressure in there, this is.
Speaker 2: A winnable game. This is a winnable game for the
Speaker 2: Dolls boys.
Speaker 4: I'm going to go back to something you said a
Speaker 4: long time ago, barry about.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, I got to deal with.
Speaker 4: No.
Speaker 2: That's not what go back to what you said about
Speaker 2: Eric Kendricks.
Speaker 4: When we first had Eric Kendricks, you were one of
Speaker 4: the main people saying, look, I think it's quality, uh
Speaker 4: get but how durability? He's gonna miss some games. And
Speaker 4: we saw that first game that we missed. He missed
Speaker 4: that green dots situation was was bad and getting lined up,
Speaker 4: getting everything, all of those things started to play a
Speaker 4: part and the Cowboys defensively come and unravel. And obviously
Speaker 4: having Michaeh back, I think it will help, But how
Speaker 4: is theim gonna use Micah? Because I think Micah is
Speaker 4: gonna be compromised in some way too within the high
Speaker 4: ankle spring. Nobody's come back from a high ankle spring,
Speaker 4: So what is that even going to look like? Defensively?
Speaker 4: We just have to figure out a way to get
Speaker 4: our linebackers in better space. Damon Clark, for whatever he
Speaker 4: is or whatever he isn't, we got to find some
Speaker 4: ways to use this guy, okay in those rundowns. If
Speaker 4: he can be effective for us, we just need we
Speaker 4: need extra help said, we need extra help, all right,
Speaker 4: we need extra bodies to throw at this problem because
Speaker 4: being short Kneeland, being short Williams, Sam Williams, I think
Speaker 4: those those injuries and even tank and you're starting to
Speaker 4: see like those injuries, I think this running game has
Speaker 4: no shot whatsoever. But if you don't have a leader
Speaker 4: in there like Eric Kendricks, I just think I just
Speaker 4: saw this defense fall completely apart in the second half,
Speaker 4: and whether Trayvon Diggs knew it or not, we had
Speaker 4: no no shot, no chance. His effort was one of
Speaker 4: the ones that you just you go and look, man,
Speaker 4: it is. It's hard to do anything when your main guy,
Speaker 4: When your main guy is playing like that.
Speaker 2: That's bad.
Speaker 3: By the way, the sheet of integrity after the bye week,
Speaker 3: heckne you had the Cowboys four and two. I had
Speaker 3: the Cowboys three and three.
Speaker 2: Church you had him two and four. Somewhere in there's
Speaker 2: the truth, and one of the truth is in there.
Speaker 2: What who who did we have? Don't even tell me
Speaker 2: who do we have? Who did you pick San Francisco?
Speaker 2: We all did, we all did. This is a game
Speaker 2: that I might even sweep.
Speaker 9: Now.
Speaker 2: Now this is no.
Speaker 3: Only time you had the Cowboys at back to back losses, noses.
Speaker 2: And the night in this this is a winnerful game
Speaker 2: game Church two and four at this point I had
Speaker 2: him three and three. Heck, you had them four and two.
Speaker 3: So but in the two losses, you had the Ravens
Speaker 3: and the Lions, and you were correct on right.
Speaker 4: There, you're right there, man, I missed. I missed Baltimore
Speaker 4: for sure. Man, No, no, and Ravens.
Speaker 3: That we all had Baltimore losing on the sheetd integery. Okay,
Speaker 3: we all had Baltimore losing there. Oh my god, she integrity.
Speaker 2: You were there, you were, you were, you were, you
Speaker 2: were right there, were all right there.
Speaker 3: And then you had him losing. We all had him
Speaker 3: losing to Detroit, and we all had them losing to
Speaker 3: the forty nine ers. Yeah, we all had him beating
Speaker 3: Atlanta the week after the forty nine game. And we
Speaker 3: all have them beating the the Eagles. Now we all
Speaker 3: have them, we all have them losing on the eighth.
Speaker 3: That Giants game changed your mind.
Speaker 4: I don't know, man, that's back to the man. What
Speaker 4: Danny dives is not scored to touchdown at home?
Speaker 2: You gotta be in a game. Blue Drew lock up
Speaker 2: in that mother.
Speaker 4: Now, the NFC is just it's an interesting place to
Speaker 4: be because I'm you know, you guys, a lot of
Speaker 4: people hire on the higher on the commanders than I was.
Speaker 2: But that defense dan Quinn got them. That's a that's
Speaker 2: another level.
Speaker 9: Man.
Speaker 2: In the playoffs. Talk about depth. Yeah, without the shut
Speaker 2: up you.
Speaker 3: Man, it's a good way to end this with in
Speaker 3: this with Arry being messy, thank you, heck Ma Harrison,
Speaker 3: thank you, let me respect. Thanks to Christine Jazz Josh,
Speaker 3: the messy players aristocrats. Oh, we need to pick games tonight, right,
Speaker 3: we got money a football, give me a we got
Speaker 3: money football here?
Speaker 2: We got two games? We got two games here, two games.
Speaker 2: It's hilarious, man, two games. Two games are two games?
Speaker 5: Got charges and the Cardinals and Baltimore versus the Bank Show.
Speaker 2: Okay, so which one is? Like, isn't one exclusively on?
Speaker 2: Yes plus out West? That's the Cardinals? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: you put the Cardinals on something like that? Do you
Speaker 2: really want to watch? Yeah? Who you going with? Okay?
Speaker 2: So playing what's the line? Baltimore?
Speaker 4: It is in Tampa Raymond James. Basically they've been playing Baltimore.
Speaker 2: Tampa Bay to for two teams me Baltimore to win
Speaker 2: twenty four.
Speaker 3: YEP, twenty four, nineteen twenty four, nineteen twenty four, nineteen,
Speaker 3: give me Baltimore.
Speaker 4: Hey know I'm going body more murder Land with your
Speaker 4: wire watching. Hey, I'm gonna go. H I think look,
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go seventeen seventeen fourteen, Yeah, give me give
Speaker 4: me a King Henry and them Boys thirty one, twenty four.
Speaker 2: Man, it's the good one. Now, that's the good one.
Speaker 2: You know I'm rocking with. We heard you're going to Herb.
Speaker 2: Give me Herb, me Herb.
Speaker 5: They're playing in Arizona. Give me hurbing them charges just man, okay,
Speaker 5: I'm hearving them. It's gonna be twenty to seventeen. You
Speaker 5: picked the Jets to last night too, did yeah?
Speaker 9: You?
Speaker 2: Hey?
Speaker 4: Se hey man, listen, man, when we when we do
Speaker 4: our pics, don't send us some dudes article man to
Speaker 4: go look up your picks.
Speaker 2: Man, who you think you are? Where do you think
Speaker 2: we're gonna let it?
Speaker 9: Yeah?
Speaker 2: This my picksf what I'm sorry?
Speaker 3: This is group this group chat talk right now. You
Speaker 3: get Chargers to win tonight. The Chargers to win tonight
Speaker 3: in a close football game.
Speaker 2: Everybody go over for the Chargers.
Speaker 3: For twenty You're going with the call of duty, you know,
Speaker 3: just how she said, King, I'm going with the charge.
Speaker 2: To the lollipop kids today.
Speaker 9: Now give me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's do it. You gotta score for him.
Speaker 4: Oh boy, I'm gonna go twenty four. Let's go twenty
Speaker 4: four to twenty.
Speaker 2: That's what I did. That's what I did. All right,
Speaker 2: all right, man, anyway you want to pick I?
Speaker 3: Since you picks Man's now, I knew he strikes you
Speaker 3: playing goodness that.
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