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Speaker 1: Ruby. Hey everyone, and welcome back to another episode of

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Speaker 1: Grown Up Stuff.

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Speaker 2: Yes, indeed, welcome back, and welcome to a little bit

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Speaker 2: of housekeeping.

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Speaker 1: I love love the inflection there, That's exactly how I

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Speaker 1: wrote it. So now spring may have sprung, we're already

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Speaker 1: jonesing for a summer break here at Grownup Stuff, and

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Speaker 1: we will be taking the next few weeks off to

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Speaker 1: do just that. But would we leave you high and dry,

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Speaker 1: fellow grown ups?

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Speaker 2: That would be decidedly very un grown up like. We

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Speaker 2: would not do that.

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Speaker 1: Ever, I couldn't agree more. It's all about communication, righting.

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Speaker 1: Grown ups set expectations, they do not defy them.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So before we bid each other a bon voyage,

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Speaker 2: we thought we'd take a closer look at our favorite

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Speaker 2: kernels of wisdom from this season and with repetition, file

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Speaker 2: them away in our ever expanding grown up minds.

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Speaker 1: I love that idea. Let's do just that, grown up.

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Speaker 1: So first, we're actually gonna go chronologically through our season,

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Speaker 1: and the first episode was Russ Garoffalo, who is the

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Speaker 1: owner and founder of Brass Taxes, which is a tax

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Speaker 1: company located in Brooklyn, New York. So Rus really got

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Speaker 1: his starts in comedy and a very empathetic guy, as

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Speaker 1: many artists are. But he started working with a mentor

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Speaker 1: who was a CBA who really like set him off

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Speaker 1: on this other journey where he found that if he

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Speaker 1: brought this empathy to the discussion of money in working

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Speaker 1: with clients directly, that he could make this kind of vulnerable,

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Speaker 1: scary thing of divulging all of your financials to your

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Speaker 1: tax guy into a positive experience. And so we learned

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Speaker 1: a ton from Russ and we'll take listen to those clips.

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Speaker 3: Now, there's no other time in life where you're like,

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Speaker 3: am I going to get back four thousand dollars or

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Speaker 3: am I going to owe ten thousand dollars. It's just

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Speaker 3: like the crappiest casino in the world with such variability,

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Speaker 3: and it's like weird that it's normal to us. So

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Speaker 3: a good way to figure out how you're about to

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Speaker 3: get paid at a job is if they give you

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Speaker 3: a W four. So a W four you fill out

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Speaker 3: and that ends up with you getting a W two later, Okay,

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Speaker 3: so that means you're an employee officially. If they give

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Speaker 3: you a W nine, that means they're going to pay

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Speaker 3: you as a contractor without taxes taken out, so suddenly,

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Speaker 3: like the roads have diverged. One, you're going to have

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Speaker 3: all the protections of an employee, minimum wage, unemployment, potentially benefits,

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Speaker 3: and they're going to take taxes out as you get stuff.

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Speaker 3: And the other way is that's your responsibility at the

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Speaker 3: end of the year, and you better save that money.

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Speaker 3: My mentor, Harvey said, take what you're entitled to, but

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Speaker 3: don't be greedy, and I've kind of come to agree

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Speaker 3: with that. I will also point out there's no accreditation

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Speaker 3: necessary to do taxes. That's why the industry feels kind

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Speaker 3: of shady. All you have to do is convince someone

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Speaker 3: the process of being allowed to e file tax not

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Speaker 3: a high bar. On the other end of that, just

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Speaker 3: someone having letters after their name does not indicate they

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Speaker 3: will be good at your taxes. So just because somebody

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Speaker 3: IRS designation versus CPA is a third party organization, it

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Speaker 3: doesn't mean I'm gonna be good at your taxes. Just

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Speaker 3: like you wouldn't hire like a real estate lawyer if

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Speaker 3: you were on trial for murder. It's like just being

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Speaker 3: a lawyer does not mean they will be helpful, right,

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Speaker 3: And so I tell everybody you need to work with

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Speaker 3: someone who understands your industry and you feel comfortable talking to.

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Speaker 1: God listening back to us. I just can't tell you

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Speaker 1: how much I appreciate this man and taxes are as

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Speaker 1: he mentioned the world's crappiest casino, and no other point

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Speaker 1: in life do you know, you know, if you're gonna

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Speaker 1: And so I think that just kind of admitting it

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Speaker 1: And then I'm like calling my dad's dad.

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Speaker 3: What is this?

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Speaker 1: I don't know what this is.

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Speaker 2: They gave me a WTF.

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Speaker 2: You did not save appropriately.

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Speaker 1: I did not save appropriately. It was really bad, but

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Speaker 1: broken down simply as Russ said, W two means your

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Speaker 1: full time employee. W nine means you're a contractor. And

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Speaker 1: if you are W nine, you should take Russ's advice

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Speaker 1: and in the episode, what he said is put twenty

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Speaker 1: percent of the money that you're making that belongs to

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Speaker 1: the government, put it in a high yield savings account,

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Speaker 1: which in a cruise about five percent annually. And then

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Speaker 1: that way, not only are you not touching the money

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Speaker 1: paying your taxes. I thought that that was great. But

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Speaker 1: I think that this is one of the most powerful

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Speaker 1: withholding that you can at any point, if you have

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Speaker 1: change it. I had no, I and I still haven't

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Speaker 1: gonna call Russ, yeah yeah, and hire him. And as

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Speaker 1: Russ said, just because somebody has a bunch of fancy

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Speaker 1: know they're a CPA there or whatever. It doesn't necessarily

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Speaker 1: or good for you. Because there's a business relationship, that's

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Speaker 1: what is. You're paying them money to do a service.

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Speaker 1: And if you don't trust them or feel comfortable or

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Speaker 2: I think we all just went and added to our

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Speaker 2: summer to do list right under find my signature sunscreen,

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Speaker 2: contact my HR representative, and change my W four so

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Speaker 2: that I am getting the money that I want.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, or at least check it out just to see, like,

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Speaker 2: I've only claimed I don't know what I'm doing.

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Speaker 1: It's my only claim. Only claim is I pleading her

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Speaker 1: inspect in talking about taxes. Yeah, we did two amazing

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Speaker 1: did two tax episodes this year. It's up to you,

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Speaker 1: audience if they were amazing. We talked to us for individuals,

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Speaker 1: but we also talked to Lisa green Lewis from TurboTax

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Speaker 1: in business for yourself, right, so if you've got an LLC,

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Speaker 1: Leah Well, I think the thing.

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Speaker 2: Was that we enjoyed talking to Rus so much, and

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Speaker 2: had all these tax questions, and Lisa green Lewis swept

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Speaker 2: And guess what, as a small business owner myself, it

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Speaker 2: was very useful to hear her perspective and her tips

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Speaker 5: A Forbes Steady mentioned that a whapping ninety three percent

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Speaker 5: of small businesses overpay their taxes and also TurboTax. We

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Speaker 5: conducted a survey with Talker Research, and seventeen percent of

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Speaker 5: gen z ers believed that you could write off any

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Speaker 5: Really important to do your taxes right. And also, you

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Speaker 5: time and effort into your business. You don't have time

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Speaker 5: to be thinking about tax laws. All the tax law changes.

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Speaker 1: Ninety three percent of businesses overpay their taxes.

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Speaker 2: Well, I like the seventeen percent of gen Z think

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Speaker 2: you can write off anybody, you know what. Not embarrassing

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's true. I mean, you just you don't know

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Speaker 1: what you don't know. And so if you find that

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Speaker 1: What can I get away with? And if you listen

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Speaker 1: to the episode, with Lisa Greenlew We will talk about that,

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Speaker 1: All right, So let's see what else Lisa had to

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Speaker 5: People just starting businesses they want to jump into incorporating.

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Speaker 5: They hear that's the thing to do, but they're not

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Speaker 5: making any money and they think that you'll get more

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Speaker 5: deductions or credits by doing that. But self employed do

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Speaker 5: You know, if you're starting out and you're not making

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Speaker 1: Do you find that you agree with Lisa? Remind me again,

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Speaker 1: what how you're set up? Is it a soul pro priortor?

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Speaker 2: I've an LLC?

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Speaker 2: And I actually helped a friend because of these episodes.

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Speaker 2: I don't have taxes. Let's be very clear but a

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Speaker 2: tax experience this year than she had previously. I do

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Speaker 2: think obviously Lisa is correct and that you cannot write

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Speaker 2: off your wardrobe as you know, enticing as that sounds,

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Speaker 2: but I think there were so many things that she

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Speaker 2: know where work and life the lines get kind of blurry,

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Speaker 2: but like you can save a few dollars here and there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think to Russ's point right off, what

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Speaker 1: you can, but don't be greedy. I think that there

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Speaker 1: and there's some things that are kind of a little

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Speaker 1: come into the office at eight o'clock, I did my

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Speaker 1: little shorter routine. You know, I think it was like

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Speaker 1: five minutes. But the other great thing about that is

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Speaker 1: maybe you're not getting the full results, but again, doing

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Speaker 1: something is better than nothing. But you build up a habit.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes it's not even about doing the full thing, it's

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Speaker 1: about showing up. Like sometimes when people are like starting

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Speaker 1: a routine, it's like some people just drive to the

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Speaker 1: gym and sit in the barking lot outside the gym.

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Speaker 1: But it's like the next week you walk in the door,

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Speaker 1: and if you can build the habit and show consistently,

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's kind of the way that you change it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I love this of having the shorter and the long one.

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Speaker 2: I think about it at the night time, where if

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Speaker 2: I get home late from something, I'm like, okay, Walter, ma,

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Speaker 2: I was going to be a shorter morning routine so

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Speaker 2: that I know that when I get up and I'm

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Speaker 2: sort of prepared myself of like, we're not doing the

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Speaker 2: full walk over. Lea is like, I wish I could

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Speaker 2: blame it on that, truly, that would be fine. But yeah, no,

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Speaker 2: she's not getting anything done in the morning, just barely

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Speaker 2: her short routine. But I like having the two options

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Speaker 2: because then when you have time to do the longer one,

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Speaker 2: it feels so luxurious. It feels like an absolute glorious

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Speaker 2: I am a queen type of mourning.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and if every morning could be like that, great,

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Speaker 1: But yeah, if not, you're not like giving up the goals. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: ye love it.

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Speaker 2: We'll be right back after a quick break.

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Speaker 1: And we're back with more grown up stuff. How do

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Speaker 1: I don't.

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Speaker 2: So?

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Speaker 1: Coming up. On our fourth episode from this season, we

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Speaker 1: talked voting with Professor Josh Douglas from University of Kentucky.

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Speaker 1: He hosts a podcast called Democracy Optimists and just gave

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Speaker 1: some great advice on how we can all best show

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Speaker 1: up as citizens and vote for the things that we

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Speaker 1: care about.

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Speaker 2: He's so knowledgeable and I love this topic.

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Speaker 1: But he also wrote the book Yeah, the one who

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Speaker 1: wrote the book.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And he just opened my eyes to so many

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Speaker 2: things that we may or may not have learned in

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Speaker 2: high school, but that are especially important for us to

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Speaker 2: know today as part of our democratic process.

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Speaker 1: Let's hear that first clip from Josh.

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Speaker 7: States are allowed to clean up their voter rules and

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Speaker 7: take people off and they'll get information like people have died,

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Speaker 7: people have moved away. In the states that just en

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Speaker 7: franchise individuals with a felony conviction if they get notice

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Speaker 7: of the felony conviction, states are allowed to take your

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Speaker 7: name off the voter roles. In addition, some states follow

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Speaker 7: a process where if you don't show up for two

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Speaker 7: federal elections in a row and then also don't respond

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Speaker 7: to a postcard that gets mailed to you, then they

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Speaker 7: can take you off the roles. So what do you

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Speaker 7: do if that occurs. Well, if you're in a state

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Speaker 7: with same day voter registration, no problem, you can register

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Speaker 7: at the polls right then. But if you're not in

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Speaker 7: a state with same day registration, especially if you're in

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Speaker 7: a state that has a deadline to register, you actually

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Speaker 7: are out of luck. With one kind of small caveat there,

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Speaker 7: if you ever show up to the polls and they

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Speaker 7: say your name's not on the rolls, you're not allowed

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Speaker 7: to vote, and you're sure you're in the right place,

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Speaker 7: don't just leave without casting about. Instead, the poll workers

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Speaker 7: are required to give you what's called a provisional ballot.

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Speaker 7: This is a ballot that you vote and then they

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Speaker 7: set aside and they figured out after the fact, after

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Speaker 7: election day, whether to count it or not. And this

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Speaker 7: should dispel one myth about our elections, which is that

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Speaker 7: all absentee ballots, all provisional ballots that are valid are

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Speaker 7: counted and so there's no concern about casting that vote,

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Speaker 7: and the election official results are not official until a

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Speaker 7: week or two later, when actually all ballots are counted.

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Speaker 1: Super important to know. I mean, I think that like

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Speaker 1: the first takeaway is like to register to vote.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think the very first okay that we're adding

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Speaker 2: to our summer to do list and sooner rather than later,

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Speaker 2: is check your voter registration.

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Speaker 1: Check.

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Speaker 2: So let's make sure it's all good. We've got the

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Speaker 2: right address, we've got the right name, we've got the

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Speaker 2: right everything. If not, get ready to hear right now.

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Speaker 2: Because also there are going to be a lot of

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Speaker 2: local primaries going on this year, next year, every year,

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Speaker 2: and so you want to make sure that you are

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Speaker 2: able to vote as part of your party if you

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Speaker 2: have a primary, or in the election in general when

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Speaker 2: that comes around in the fall as well.

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Speaker 1: But the greatest thing though is I never knew this

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Speaker 1: about casting about, even if you weren't on the role.

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Speaker 1: And really this is just a mechanism in place that

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Speaker 1: if there was a mistake with your voter registration, that

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Speaker 1: your vote doesn't go uncounted if it deserves to be counted.

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Speaker 1: And so, just like Josh said, if you were at

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Speaker 1: the polls and for some reason you're not on it,

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Speaker 1: but you're in the right place, don't leave without casting about,

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Speaker 1: because that is something that can get sorted out and

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Speaker 1: your vote can be counted.

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Speaker 2: It's a great part of our process that we're going

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Speaker 2: to enjoy while we have it.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to the next clip.

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Speaker 7: What does it mean to be a democracy optimist? It's

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Speaker 7: not that I think everything's going great, that democracy is

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Speaker 7: perfectly thriving and we don't need to change or fix things.

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Speaker 7: It's that there's hope for the future. Because if there's

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Speaker 7: not hope, then what's the alternative wallowing in our despair

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Speaker 7: and having this fatalistic view that the system is just

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Speaker 7: doomed and we can't do anything about it, and so

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Speaker 7: we're going to retreat into our everyday lives and not

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Speaker 7: try to fix the system. And if we do that,

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Speaker 7: then yes, the system is doomed. So the first answer

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Speaker 7: to your question of why should I vote, essentially is well,

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Speaker 7: why not? Because it's up to all of us, and

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Speaker 7: people of asking me all the time these days, how

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Speaker 7: do we save democracy? Ultimately, it's the people, it's we

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Speaker 7: the people, and so you should be wanting to be

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Speaker 7: part of that. Even if say you live in a

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Speaker 7: state where you kind of know who's going to win

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Speaker 7: the presidential electors in that state, or you live in

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Speaker 7: a district where, because of gerrymanderin the practice of drawing

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Speaker 7: skewed lines, you kind of know who's going to win

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Speaker 7: that district. The second answer is that your vote probably

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Speaker 7: isn't going to make a difference in the outcome except

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Speaker 7: for when it does, and you never know when that's

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Speaker 7: going to be. There are elections every year that come

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Speaker 7: down to one vote or that are tied. So is

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Speaker 7: your vote actually going to matter in the presidential election?

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Speaker 7: Probably not your one vote until it does, until enough

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Speaker 7: of us decide that we do want to show up.

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Speaker 1: I just loved talking to Josh. I loved exactly what

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Speaker 1: he said here, which is just like you take a

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Speaker 1: look around the country. We're all I don't think anyone's happy.

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Speaker 1: I think in general, no one's thrilled, both sides, right,

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Speaker 1: what's going on? And it's so easy to get so

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Speaker 1: pessimistic about things. I think if we're going to sit

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Speaker 1: around here and complain, we can sit around here and

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Speaker 1: do something about it. Yeah, you know, like you hear

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Speaker 1: that all the time. My vote doesn't matter, it's all

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Speaker 1: rigged whatever. But like they count the vote. Yeah you

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Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like, yeah, they count them.

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Speaker 2: I like knowing I did what I was supposed to

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Speaker 2: do and what I could do. And so I feel

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Speaker 2: fine in my heart going to bed every night knowing

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Speaker 2: I voted, and I voted the way I wanted to

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Speaker 2: and here we go.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and there's never going to be the change you

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Speaker 1: want to see if you don't at least try. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: because I think that there's probably fifty thousand of you

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Speaker 1: thinking the same. And if we all just went out

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Speaker 1: there and vote, suddenly we're changing the system.

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Speaker 2: Change your thoughts, change the world. Does that how it

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Speaker 2: comes you? Really?

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Speaker 1: It's so true. You do have to change your own

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Speaker 1: mind before you can change anything else. So change your

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Speaker 1: mind to go vote. And we've got another clip from Josh.

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Speaker 1: I wish we had ten of them now. It's hard

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Speaker 1: to disprove a negative.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 7: So when my kids were younger, and they might say,

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Speaker 7: as I'm tucking him into bed, Daddy, there's a monster

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Speaker 7: under the bed. And no matter how many times I

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Speaker 7: looked for the monster and told them there's no monster,

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Speaker 7: how do you get them to believe me? Right? Yeah,

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Speaker 7: And that's sort of what this mantra of voter fraud is. Right,

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Speaker 7: no matter how many times the experts who are looking

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Speaker 7: at this and understand how the process works, Understand all

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Speaker 7: of the auditing that happens after election day. They actually

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Speaker 7: it's not over on election day. There's lots of processes

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Speaker 7: that happened in the weeks after. No matter how many

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Speaker 7: times you say it, though, how do you prove a

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Speaker 7: negative so they're not monsters under the bed? There's also

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Speaker 7: no massive voter fraud.

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Speaker 1: It's so funny how like the third party auditing, everything

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Speaker 1: that goes on to disprove or of this stuff. The

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Speaker 1: experts are all saying that there's no massive voter fraud,

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Speaker 1: and then all it takes is someone and look, just

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Speaker 1: forget Donald Trump. All it takes is some powerful person

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Speaker 1: saying loudly into the megaphone or social media, it's all

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Speaker 1: rigged that we all think it's all rigged. And it's like,

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Speaker 1: then you're just blowing away all of the work that

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Speaker 1: all those people have done to ensure that our process

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Speaker 1: is free and fair. And so Josh is right, it's

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Speaker 1: very hard to disprove a negative. And so I think

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Speaker 1: we could all do a little more listening to the

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Speaker 1: experts like we do on this show.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, I mean it's also a great reminder

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Speaker 2: to just check and make sure there's not a monster

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Speaker 2: under your bed too. I know you said you wanted

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Speaker 2: ten more clips of Josh. Did you know there is

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Speaker 2: a full episode with it. You can't listen to the

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Speaker 2: full episode Season three, episode four. If you want to

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Speaker 2: know more about voting, Yeah, get to it.

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Speaker 1: And we took a hard pivot from voting to talking

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Speaker 1: about oil. Yeah, yes, which was fascinating because like if

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Speaker 1: you dive into it, I mean there's a ton talk

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Speaker 1: about experts. Oh, there are people out there doing things

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Speaker 1: that you wouldn't even imagine that they are doing in

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Speaker 1: every field. And so let's talk to one of them.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: His name is Sean Wynn, and he is a shell

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Speaker 2: lubricant technical specialist with Pens oil as well, and he

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Speaker 2: knows literally everything there is to know about changing your oil.

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Speaker 1: Let's listen to it.

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Speaker 8: As engine ols get cooked and heated typically can go

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Speaker 8: up as high as two hundred and sixty degrees, up

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Speaker 8: at the three hundred degrees and even that the pistons

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Speaker 8: can go above five hundred degrees. So in a sense

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Speaker 8: it causes them to age the same way we see

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Speaker 8: our cooking oil. You know, we use it a couple

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Speaker 8: of times see it kind of turned dark. And oil

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Speaker 8: has to be there to keep everything lubricated. Oil has

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Speaker 8: to come in and cool the engine. It works with

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Speaker 8: your cooling system, and as you change the temperature, and

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Speaker 8: as you increase the temperature, you cause that oil to

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Speaker 8: break down. When you add in contaminants like water, fuel

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Speaker 8: like air and carbon monoxide, it ages the oil and

656
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 8: degrades the oil. Our whole purpose of oil is a

657
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:12,040
Speaker 8: couple of the major fundamental lubricate protect keep it cool,

658
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Speaker 8: and prevent wear.

659
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Speaker 1: It's so easy as a owner of a vehicle to

660
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Speaker 1: just be like we're good, we're good, you know, every

661
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 1: time you get the road. But there's so many parts

662
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 1: that work together to make it happen. I mean, there's

663
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:29,440
Speaker 1: your tires, there's your brakes, there's your oil.

664
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Speaker 2: The miracle of modern technology, and we take.

665
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 1: It for granted. Yeah, And so to Shaun's point, like,

666
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:37,240
Speaker 1: what oil is doing is preserving your engine. And so

667
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:39,080
Speaker 1: if you're going to let it sit and get dirty

668
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 1: and the contaminous mix it, it's not doing its job

669
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Speaker 1: and you're actually going to wear out your vehicle faster.

670
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Speaker 1: And I don't know about you, but I pay a

671
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 1: lot of money for mine and I'd like to keep

672
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:50,160
Speaker 1: it working on the way it should. Yeah, as long

673
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:52,240
Speaker 1: as possible. Yeah, talk about the hardest pivot.

674
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 2: We already reuse that one, so you know what we're

675
00:30:55,360 --> 00:31:01,000
Speaker 2: going to do, reduce it to recycling. You went on

676
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 2: a nerdy little field trip, which I do think all

677
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 2: grown ups you should take yourself somewhere where your class

678
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 2: would go as a field trip, because it's so good

679
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:13,040
Speaker 2: to learn a little something new, something you already knew,

680
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 2: something you didn't already know. And this inspired our next episode.

681
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, went to the MURPH which stands for Materials Recovery

682
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 1: Facility out in Brooklyn and learn a ton about recycling

683
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:29,600
Speaker 1: from Kara, so much in fact, we had to have

684
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 1: her on the show. So let's check in with Kara now.

685
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:40,480
Speaker 4: So, yes, there is the statistic floating around. It actually

686
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 4: pertains to plastics. So there's this statistic that nine percent

687
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 4: of plastic gets recycled. So this was determined by the EPA.

688
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 4: They put out a study the Sustainable Materials Management back

689
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 4: in twenty eighteen. So what they did is they measured

690
00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 4: all plastics that had been manufactured in one year. And

691
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 4: I mean, you just have to let that sink in

692
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:06,680
Speaker 4: for a moment, all plastics that had been manufactured in

693
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Speaker 4: this country. I believe in a year, it's a lot

694
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 4: of stuff like you know, tables, chairs, shoes, some are bottles,

695
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 4: some are recyclable, some are not, some are durable and

696
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 4: meant to be reused. So they found that out of

697
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:24,280
Speaker 4: all plastic manufactured in a year, United States residents like

698
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 4: you and I put nine percent of that into recycling bins.

699
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 4: So what I think people interpret from that statistic is

700
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 4: they think, oh, of all the plastic I diligently put

701
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 4: in my bin, only nine percent of it is getting recycled,

702
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 4: When that's not what was being measured. It's actually the

703
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 4: percentage that people are putting into their bins, and if

704
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 4: you put more of the correct stuff into your bins,

705
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 4: that percentage will actually go up.

706
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 1: I'm the victim of seeing this misinformation. I had seen

707
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:56,960
Speaker 1: that statistic that nine percent of plastic gets recycled, and

708
00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:58,760
Speaker 1: I flipped it. I thought, was like, that meant nine

709
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,080
Speaker 1: percent of literally everything into the bin gets recycled. And

710
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 1: that's the kind of statistic and the misinformation that can

711
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 1: drive people to be like, you know what, I don't

712
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:07,560
Speaker 1: care then whatever, Then what's the whole point of recycling

713
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:10,280
Speaker 1: if only nine percent of it gets recycled, and it's

714
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 1: not true. Actually ninety to ninety five percent of everything

715
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 1: that you recycle and your recycling gets recycled. And I

716
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:19,120
Speaker 1: think that's the message that we have to take away

717
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:22,080
Speaker 1: from here, because that is critically important.

718
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:24,960
Speaker 2: I think about so much of what Kara said all

719
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 2: the time, literally every day when I put stuff in

720
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 2: the recycling. Yeah, and it just makes me feel happy.

721
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:32,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, obviously is Kara said in the episode of like,

722
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 1: reducing what we use is super important, Reusing what we

723
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 1: use is super important, and recycling is kind of like

724
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 1: the smallest piece of it. But again, if we're all

725
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:42,719
Speaker 1: doing it as we should be, then we really can

726
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 1: make a big impact.

727
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 2: Yeah.

728
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:48,480
Speaker 1: So let's go to the next clip here. Let's go

729
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 1: to plastic bags. And I'm thinking, like the shopping bag plastics, like.

730
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Speaker 4: The single use bags exactly, those are pretty much not

731
00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 4: recyclable anywhere in this country, as far as in your

732
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 4: home bin or like in our recycling, right.

733
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:03,480
Speaker 1: And why is that?

734
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 2: Yeah? Two reasons. So, first of all, it's really hard

735
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 2: for us to sort them. At the Murph. A plastic

736
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 2: bag is what we call.

737
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 4: A tangler because it tangles in the sorting equipment, so

738
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 4: it's a big pain for us. And then even if

739
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 4: we do manage to sort them, nobody wants to buy them.

740
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 4: Something is recyclable if it has a market, if there's

741
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 4: a company out there that wants to buy it. Plastic bags,

742
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 4: they're pretty flimsy. It's not really a strong material. You

743
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 4: don't get much from it.

744
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:37,759
Speaker 1: So it's true that plastic bags the single use are

745
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 1: not recyclable, but there are some businesses and this is

746
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:42,839
Speaker 1: not true around the country, so you have to maybe

747
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:45,920
Speaker 1: do some research on your own. But that accept plastic

748
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:48,719
Speaker 1: bags because they are trying to find a way to

749
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:51,799
Speaker 1: reuse them. And I think that, like, if you can

750
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 1: do that, do it, yeah, because otherwise they're just ending

751
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,240
Speaker 1: up in the landfill, like we talked about on the episode.

752
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:58,439
Speaker 1: So don't put them in your recycling bin. They're definitely

753
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:00,239
Speaker 1: not going to be put to use there. There is

754
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:02,319
Speaker 1: a grocery store actually not far from and there's actually

755
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 1: a ton of grocery stores. Do this to actually look

756
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 1: up the grocery store in your area because it's possible

757
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 1: that they could be doing this. One of them in

758
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 1: our area accepts plastic bags, Amazon bags, gigantic plastic wrap,

759
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:15,239
Speaker 1: things that come in the mail, Like we collect all

760
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 1: of those and we give them to the grocery store.

761
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:19,040
Speaker 1: And again like maybe they are ending up in a landfill,

762
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:20,359
Speaker 1: but if we can get some use out of them,

763
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:21,799
Speaker 1: go for Yeah, if we.

764
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 2: Can't recycle, we can reduce and reuse them still, and

765
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 2: those are.

766
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:29,239
Speaker 1: Important too, exactly. So loved talking to Kara. If you

767
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:30,879
Speaker 1: haven't done it, go back and listen to the full

768
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:33,879
Speaker 1: episode because there's a ton of wisdom in there. But yeah,

769
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 1: so we're about to go off on a break, right,

770
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 1: We're going to take a couple of weeks off for

771
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:40,239
Speaker 1: the summer. I'm going to Italy. Fancy can't wait. But

772
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:42,279
Speaker 1: we wanted to kind of have a kindid conversation about

773
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 1: the rest of the season and like, you know, how

774
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:46,760
Speaker 1: this show gets made because sometimes we have no idea

775
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,400
Speaker 1: what we're going to do. We've got a few ideas

776
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:52,680
Speaker 1: from the audience, we've got a few ideas that we

777
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 1: are personally interested in, but like a peak behind the

778
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:57,279
Speaker 1: curative of making podcasts, you know, although we've got these ideas,

779
00:35:57,320 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 1: we never really know where the season is going to

780
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 1: take us. We talk about the ideas and a few

781
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:04,120
Speaker 1: of them actually end up coming to Fruition, but some

782
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:06,239
Speaker 1: of them don't. And so we just thought we would

783
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:08,160
Speaker 1: talk a little bit about what we're interested in doing

784
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:09,880
Speaker 1: for the latter half of the season, which I think

785
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:14,400
Speaker 1: will premiere in August. So what are some of the topics? Cleah?

786
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 2: Okay, So there's a lot of topics. And again another

787
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 2: caveat to this is that sometimes life happens and there's

788
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:21,960
Speaker 2: something that in our own personal lives we're like, ooh,

789
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:23,879
Speaker 2: we should learn a lot about that. To a little

790
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 2: topic could pop in at any time, we don't know.

791
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 2: First up, AI AI. Do you know the robots?

792
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:31,399
Speaker 1: Okay?

793
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, so we've like brushed by each other. We've had

794
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:37,759
Speaker 2: a few interactions, but I got to know them on

795
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 2: a deeper level. So we're going to talk about AI

796
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:42,280
Speaker 2: and how we can use it in our everyday lives.

797
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 1: And this is the thing that I don't think a

798
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:45,359
Speaker 1: lot of people know about, Like you can actually use

799
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:48,880
Speaker 1: AI to like help you with your grocery list. I

800
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:51,399
Speaker 1: just had AI like put together a whole meal prep

801
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 1: for me for a week, and to put together grocery

802
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:55,439
Speaker 1: it was like so easy. So there's like little things

803
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:56,800
Speaker 1: like that that you may not know about that you

804
00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:58,759
Speaker 1: can actually get a ton of use out of. And

805
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 1: so we're talking about AI not for like super fancy

806
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 1: tech startup algorithms, money, whatever, but like literally you and

807
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 1: like what you can do, not fancy, just for you. Yeah,

808
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 1: you are the fanciest you ever know really for us,

809
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:13,919
Speaker 1: for me too, like I'm interested to learn more about

810
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 1: what it can help me do in my daily life

811
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 1: and give you back some more time. But another one

812
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 1: is nutrition.

813
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 2: Right, I'm gonna say, we got to know more about

814
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 2: that grocery list.

815
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 1: We gotta know more about it, are Yeah, I just

816
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:24,440
Speaker 1: think it's something that people don't really think about on

817
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 1: a day to day basis, Like what we're putting into

818
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 1: our bodies and is it doing us good or harm?

819
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:29,759
Speaker 1: Like we're gonna chat about that.

820
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 2: Oh, speaking of good or harm, we're also gonna be

821
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 2: talking about advocating for yourself at work.

822
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 1: Oh dude, when you're young in your career, like I

823
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:38,920
Speaker 1: feel like you will take any kind of abuse, Like

824
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:41,360
Speaker 1: you're just like pilot on you know, let me be

825
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:42,800
Speaker 1: that receptacle for all that stuff.

826
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 2: But you don't have to be.

827
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:45,800
Speaker 1: We don't have to be you do have worth, and

828
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 1: it's worth advocating for yourself because you never know what

829
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 1: is out there until you actually ask for it. So

830
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:52,759
Speaker 1: we'll be chatting about that. We're also gonna be talking

831
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:55,759
Speaker 1: about jury duty, which is something that I think I'm

832
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:57,960
Speaker 1: confused about. I love you love it.

833
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 2: Yes, I've done it, I've lived it, I've loved it.

834
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:03,839
Speaker 2: So I can't wait to really get even more into

835
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 2: that because it's so important.

836
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 1: I just don't know the rules.

837
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:08,759
Speaker 2: Okay, well we're going to find them out. But the

838
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:11,239
Speaker 2: main thing to know is that true crime is like

839
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:13,919
Speaker 2: the biggest genre right now. If you like true crime,

840
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 2: you are going to love jury Gonna love it, So

841
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:19,880
Speaker 2: don't try to get out of it. Don't try to

842
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:21,359
Speaker 2: delay of a jewet track.

843
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, do it. Participate, maybe end up on the

844
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:26,360
Speaker 1: big jury. And then where are we moving after that?

845
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:29,160
Speaker 2: Well, we're moving to the jury of the internet, and

846
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:31,400
Speaker 2: that is how do we quit social media.

847
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 1: Loving all of your transitions today.

848
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:39,239
Speaker 2: I'm a professional, Like I said, I gotta stop looking

849
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:40,839
Speaker 2: at my phone. So we are going to have an

850
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 2: expert come and tell us how we can. If not

851
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:47,880
Speaker 2: cold Turkey, then certainly wean ourselves off of our social

852
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:50,880
Speaker 2: media use, get that screen time down, get out in

853
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:53,759
Speaker 2: the sunshine, not care about what the internet has going on.

854
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, talking a little bit about social media and not

855
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 1: like saying that it's you know, you got to quit

856
00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:00,279
Speaker 1: it forever, but like what good is doing? Maybe? What

857
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:02,400
Speaker 1: harm is it doing? And how can we find a

858
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:04,319
Speaker 1: more healthy please for it to exist in your lives? Right.

859
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 1: And then the last one we've got written down here

860
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:08,879
Speaker 1: is meal prep, which I love because, like, if you're

861
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 1: someone who's going to the office every day and you're

862
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:13,560
Speaker 1: just eating whatever is near the office.

863
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:16,840
Speaker 2: Oh, recession indicator. We are not doing those twenty dollars

864
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:17,880
Speaker 2: salads exactly.

865
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no no. And it has to do

866
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 1: with like we were talking about setting up your environment

867
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 1: for success, Like there's a couple of things you can do.

868
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:24,920
Speaker 1: You know, you can get some containers, you can buy

869
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 1: a bunch of ingredients in bulk, and you can actually

870
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:29,840
Speaker 1: make some healthy, very affordable meals for yourself. But sometimes

871
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:31,360
Speaker 1: it's hard to know where to start, right, And so

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Speaker 1: that's what we're going to be talking about in that episode.

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Speaker 2: Also, drink every time we say the word soggy, because

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Speaker 2: I feel like I have to say that a lot.

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Speaker 1: Yes, Yeah, okay, and look, you know these are just

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Speaker 1: ideas we've tossed out there. It's maybe a subject to change.

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Speaker 1: And you know, actually, now that I'm literally going on vacation,

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Speaker 1: I've been thinking about a lot like traveling is insanely

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Speaker 1: difficult to do well, and I've been banging my head

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Speaker 1: against the wall to try to find like an organizational

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Speaker 1: tool to help me organize our travel. Yes, and I

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Speaker 1: think I finally found it. And I would love to

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Speaker 1: have a travel expert on to talk about how the

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Speaker 1: best way we can plan for prep and get the

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Speaker 1: most out of our vacations.

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Speaker 2: Share your ways with us, I will.

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Speaker 1: And we'll see if I'm doing it wrong where you are,

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Speaker 1: which I'm sure we'll find out that I am.

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Speaker 2: But we're gonna correct it. We're gonna do it right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So anyway, so everyone have a wonderful summer. Ye,

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Speaker 1: thank you for listening to the show. Yes, and we'll

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Speaker 1: see you in a couple of weeks.

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Speaker 2: Yes, And until then, good luck being a grown up.

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Speaker 1: This is a production of Ruby Studio from iHeartMedia. Our

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Speaker 1: executive producers are The Palmery.

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Speaker 2: And Matt still Oh. This episode was edited and engineered

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Speaker 2: by Sierra Spreen.

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Speaker 1: Sarah You, Ethan Fixel, Raciswan Krasnoff, Amber Smith, Deborah Garett,

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Speaker 1: and Andy Kelly.