WEBVTT - Hiatus Kaiyote 0:00:15.516 --> 0:00:15.996 Pushkin. 0:00:20.236 --> 0:00:23.236 Today on the show, we have Hiatus Coyote in conversation 0:00:23.556 --> 0:00:27.996 and in performance. This incredibly talented group of four Australians 0:00:28.076 --> 0:00:32.116 have dazzled audiences, making fans of not only layman like myself, 0:00:32.556 --> 0:00:35.996 but also have some incredibly interesting and accomplished musicians like 0:00:36.116 --> 0:00:40.556 Erica Bado, Robert Glasper and even Willow Smith. They've also 0:00:40.636 --> 0:00:43.676 been able to collaborate with giants of music like Q 0:00:43.876 --> 0:00:48.796 Tip salam Remi in Brazil's Arthur Verocai. The group Hiatus 0:00:48.836 --> 0:00:53.516 Coyote is vocalist and guitarist Napalm, drummer Paren Moss, bassist 0:00:53.556 --> 0:00:57.556 Paul Bender and don keys Simon Mavin, but those aren't 0:00:57.596 --> 0:01:00.516 permanent stations for them. Any of the four at any 0:01:00.516 --> 0:01:03.356 time can move between instruments and all contribute to writing 0:01:03.396 --> 0:01:06.356 some of the most beautiful, soulful music of the last decade. 0:01:07.356 --> 0:01:09.716 Their latest album, to come out just early this year, 0:01:09.876 --> 0:01:13.036 is Love Heart Cheat Code. It's the group's fourth proper 0:01:13.076 --> 0:01:15.556 album and features, to my mind, some of their strongest 0:01:15.596 --> 0:01:18.116 songwriting yet, while still managing to weave in some of 0:01:18.116 --> 0:01:22.356 the incredibly complex musical ideas they're known for. I met 0:01:22.356 --> 0:01:24.836 with the foursome at Energy Studios in Los Angeles at 0:01:24.836 --> 0:01:26.596 the end of their US tour, to talk through the 0:01:26.636 --> 0:01:29.756 new album, their role as collaborators within and outside of 0:01:29.796 --> 0:01:33.476 the group, and to witness their magic up close and personal. 0:01:36.116 --> 0:01:39.356 This is Broken Record liner notes for the Digital Age. 0:01:39.516 --> 0:01:40.476 I'm justin Richmond. 0:01:45.076 --> 0:01:47.356 To see the full video version of this episode, along 0:01:47.396 --> 0:01:49.916 with the band's live set, including a version of their 0:01:49.956 --> 0:01:53.956 songmak friends, visit YouTube dot com slash Broken Record podcast. 0:01:54.556 --> 0:01:58.636 But for now, here's Hetus Coyote performing their song Dimitri. 0:02:10.676 --> 0:02:20.436 Bound down. 0:02:23.316 --> 0:02:28.156 Chi lots of things danger. 0:02:30.116 --> 0:02:36.036 My sick colors in the out further around and give. 0:02:35.916 --> 0:02:38.876 It about dry. 0:02:41.236 --> 0:02:49.996 Lots of thing danger my si colors now around and 0:02:50.316 --> 0:02:52.516 now give it about. 0:02:54.196 --> 0:03:07.236 Up alone with the world man, fine, where have you teacher? 0:03:07.796 --> 0:03:22.156 Definition colling me aar s f W roll the dream 0:03:22.236 --> 0:03:25.236 home way so I get try. 0:03:27.436 --> 0:03:28.876 Concert them to. 0:03:31.596 --> 0:03:32.396 I s t. 0:03:35.116 --> 0:03:39.276 Try it down. I'll give it up about Yeah. 0:03:39.596 --> 0:03:42.716 You try in a whole world. 0:03:50.476 --> 0:03:55.116 Jun down and now give it about to you if 0:03:55.156 --> 0:03:59.476 it says too to your head time because you times if. 0:03:59.396 --> 0:04:02.796 You sit still to your head crime, I can't hear us. 0:04:03.156 --> 0:04:06.876 Times your sid stoll to your head, I can't hear 0:04:06.956 --> 0:04:15.116 us eight times. You may find an angel, he. 0:04:16.676 --> 0:04:22.996 Shut umble. 0:04:28.036 --> 0:04:45.516 Unto fry Jeezo, counter thinganger monteze intend Japan, londer down 0:04:45.676 --> 0:04:50.636 and give it up, Bouser, you try to. 0:04:55.036 --> 0:04:56.356 Until they intend to. 0:04:58.476 --> 0:05:02.516 Well running down and half give it up. 0:05:02.676 --> 0:05:05.476 Bout you old. 0:05:06.836 --> 0:05:14.436 Lord the world world. 0:05:15.316 --> 0:05:19.836 Fine, well have beauties ibund to venish. 0:05:22.236 --> 0:05:33.476 Love joy you fack I have had the dream world 0:05:33.596 --> 0:05:34.996 War of the swagon. 0:05:35.316 --> 0:05:40.236 You said, still digital head back mack out you, Joe said, 0:05:40.276 --> 0:05:43.956 still Tito, head back, make out here three times to 0:05:44.036 --> 0:05:46.796 persist digital heaven, Oh. 0:05:46.756 --> 0:05:48.316 Make out here three times? 0:05:48.556 --> 0:05:50.316 You may find as. 0:05:55.436 --> 0:06:18.516 He your sister didn't your head back tack came? He'll says, 0:06:18.636 --> 0:06:19.196 my sister. 0:06:19.836 --> 0:06:21.516 Didn't your hair tack? 0:06:21.716 --> 0:06:24.676 He's a chap six in a home. 0:06:24.836 --> 0:06:26.916 Din't your hand back us? 0:06:28.996 --> 0:06:33.516 Did you had finger us your sister? Did you hair? 0:06:36.716 --> 0:06:39.836 Did you look at you use your. 0:06:39.996 --> 0:06:41.036 Sister to. 0:06:43.036 --> 0:06:43.836 Sing you ls? 0:06:44.156 --> 0:06:44.516 Sister? 0:06:45.236 --> 0:06:49.236 Did you tell us stoo. 0:06:55.276 --> 0:07:28.956 Whoa man? That was an incredible set, guys, you was beautiful, 0:07:29.636 --> 0:07:31.276 maybe even more I was happy able to see it, 0:07:31.316 --> 0:07:33.396 but maybe even more sad that there's not a l 0:07:33.476 --> 0:07:38.516 a stop on the on the tour. Congratulations on the 0:07:38.556 --> 0:07:44.756 new album. It's phenomenal. It is really good. It feels 0:07:44.796 --> 0:07:50.076 like a perfectly sequenced record too, And hold on, guys, 0:07:50.516 --> 0:07:53.876 was how many how many songs did you guys record 0:07:53.956 --> 0:07:54.476 for the record? 0:07:55.436 --> 0:07:59.276 There's like a couple more extras. It didn't quite make it. 0:07:59.716 --> 0:08:02.596 That's kinda happens every record. There's always a fear that 0:08:02.716 --> 0:08:05.716 we were like, it's not quite it's not quite you know, 0:08:05.836 --> 0:08:08.516 cooked enough, or we gotta, you know, maybe try to 0:08:08.556 --> 0:08:12.716 reapproach it, so you know that, and they always usually 0:08:12.796 --> 0:08:15.516 end up on the next record that always but not 0:08:15.596 --> 0:08:17.556 always has been around. 0:08:17.356 --> 0:08:17.756 For a while. 0:08:19.076 --> 0:08:22.196 Also, the thing is like once you start the recording 0:08:22.316 --> 0:08:25.756 process and trying to document the songs that we already have, 0:08:25.916 --> 0:08:30.036 we also write a lot like Make Friends was a 0:08:30.436 --> 0:08:32.916 very last minute addition to the record because we're just 0:08:33.036 --> 0:08:37.636 like you know, in the mood to create, and so 0:08:38.116 --> 0:08:41.196 there's always like something that just sneaks in, like Red 0:08:41.316 --> 0:08:43.236 Room was like that on the last one, you know. 0:08:44.156 --> 0:08:49.036 So yeah, it's never like a set amount of songs. 0:08:49.356 --> 0:08:50.556 How do you make Friends come together? 0:08:50.636 --> 0:08:52.236 Then Simon wrote the riff. 0:08:53.116 --> 0:08:55.116 Yeah, I was sitting at home on my upright piano 0:08:55.436 --> 0:08:59.316 with my wife sitting on the couch and I just 0:08:59.396 --> 0:08:59.996 started going. 0:09:02.396 --> 0:09:05.076 She was like, Simon made an unplugged. 0:09:05.116 --> 0:09:07.236 She was like, that's that was that's good and I 0:09:07.316 --> 0:09:10.356 was like, all right, if if a non musician says 0:09:10.596 --> 0:09:12.916 I like that, then generally that's a good thing. 0:09:13.116 --> 0:09:15.036 What was the turnaround on that? Because he just came 0:09:15.116 --> 0:09:16.676 to the studio and was playing it and then I 0:09:16.836 --> 0:09:18.956 literally wrote to it overnight. I was like, that's excellent. 0:09:19.116 --> 0:09:20.276 I didn't think it was going to be a higher 0:09:20.396 --> 0:09:23.156 song really now, yeah, I didn't. I didn't hear it 0:09:23.236 --> 0:09:25.116 to be a higher so he didn't present it that way. 0:09:26.356 --> 0:09:28.076 I was just playing for the studio and then they 0:09:28.236 --> 0:09:31.676 was like, what do you get this recorded on her iPhone? 0:09:32.236 --> 0:09:35.716 And then at like three am sent me audio message 0:09:35.716 --> 0:09:37.716 of her singing to it. Wow, And then it was 0:09:37.756 --> 0:09:39.356 like all right, this is going to be a hiatus 0:09:40.876 --> 0:09:42.476 And then we just went in the studio and it 0:09:42.676 --> 0:09:47.156 just sort of came about really easily. Everyone just sunk 0:09:47.196 --> 0:09:49.436 into it and we had it done in a few weeks. 0:09:49.476 --> 0:09:49.596 You know. 0:09:50.476 --> 0:09:52.996 We also like came up with the last vocal bit 0:09:53.516 --> 0:09:56.036 after we recorded it, and we're mixing with Mario c 0:09:56.716 --> 0:10:00.636 who is a legend. He produced like Beast Boys and shit. Anyway, 0:10:00.676 --> 0:10:03.316 we're at his house and just kind of added that 0:10:03.396 --> 0:10:05.836 in last minute, so he's singing on it, Scott our 0:10:05.916 --> 0:10:08.236 managers singing on it. So we just kind of had 0:10:08.276 --> 0:10:10.516 like a little party vibe in the answer. That was 0:10:10.556 --> 0:10:12.716 a really cute addition to the song. 0:10:13.076 --> 0:10:15.356 What song were you guys recording when you started playing 0:10:15.396 --> 0:10:15.756 that riff? 0:10:16.316 --> 0:10:19.636 Do you remember we're just probably rehearsing, We're just working 0:10:19.676 --> 0:10:23.716 on the record, and then I think in your room room, 0:10:23.796 --> 0:10:26.836 But it was like, I don't remember how it actually 0:10:26.876 --> 0:10:28.316 came back because I didn't hear it, Like I only 0:10:28.356 --> 0:10:30.316 heard it once and they had vocals on it, and 0:10:30.356 --> 0:10:31.676 I think we were just jamming on it in my 0:10:31.796 --> 0:10:33.756 room and then we just kind of pipped the microphones 0:10:33.796 --> 0:10:35.596 up and just recorded. 0:10:35.996 --> 0:10:38.516 And it was telescope because it was like the Skulls 0:10:39.756 --> 0:10:42.756 when I was recording the Skulls on that don't conkkunk. 0:10:43.556 --> 0:10:45.316 It was in that actual skulls. 0:10:48.156 --> 0:10:51.236 Telescope has witchy but no they what are they? 0:10:51.676 --> 0:10:59.236 Ik wood blocks, Alm sound way more bad ass. It's 0:10:59.276 --> 0:11:06.676 a great remare was Dreamboat? Like? Was was Dreamboat done 0:11:06.756 --> 0:11:07.756 before Telescope? 0:11:08.036 --> 0:11:14.076 Or did you Yeah, there's another song, Yeah, another one 0:11:14.076 --> 0:11:15.716 that I didn't think would be a lot of the 0:11:15.796 --> 0:11:17.356 things that I bring sometimes I'm like, this is going 0:11:17.436 --> 0:11:19.516 to be the highest thing, and then all of a sudden, no, 0:11:19.636 --> 0:11:20.156 it really. 0:11:20.076 --> 0:11:22.636 Is a highus song because everyone writes, you know what 0:11:22.676 --> 0:11:24.956 I mean, like different bits and pieces, and that's what's 0:11:25.516 --> 0:11:28.676 beautiful about this collaboration is it's like, I don't know, 0:11:28.676 --> 0:11:30.636 all these like amazing artists want to work with us, 0:11:30.676 --> 0:11:33.996 but I'm like so spoiled for choice because it's not 0:11:34.116 --> 0:11:37.236 like people just playing instruments like everyone writes, so you 0:11:37.356 --> 0:11:40.196 never really know what's going to develop into a hiatus song. 0:11:40.316 --> 0:11:44.316 Sometimes it's just like a sound or like a little piece, 0:11:44.356 --> 0:11:48.876 so like Cinnamon Temple, you know. So there's no real formula, 0:11:49.276 --> 0:11:51.796 and I'm always like I'm like a spy. I always 0:11:51.876 --> 0:11:54.436 have my voice notes like recording them. 0:11:54.476 --> 0:11:58.956 And then yeah, I think Dreamboat was earlier than Telescope 0:11:58.956 --> 0:12:01.436 because yeah, we started playing it live as an intro 0:12:01.596 --> 0:12:05.836 to the set before we did the record, so that 0:12:05.996 --> 0:12:09.516 was the first kind of the I think the last 0:12:09.716 --> 0:12:11.396 tour that we did in the States, that was kind 0:12:11.436 --> 0:12:13.116 of our addition to open the set up. 0:12:13.676 --> 0:12:16.596 And then so was Telescope like an outgrowth from dream 0:12:16.596 --> 0:12:18.196 because it's just no, no. 0:12:18.676 --> 0:12:19.476 It's a separate thing. 0:12:19.676 --> 0:12:22.956 Yeah, separate thing they both have concert harp on them though, 0:12:23.436 --> 0:12:25.876 do you remember that's a thought also, so that kind 0:12:25.916 --> 0:12:29.956 of ties it in Melina, Yeah, because it's like, I 0:12:29.996 --> 0:12:34.036 don't know, when Simon showed us Streamboat, it had this 0:12:34.316 --> 0:12:38.676 kind of like like Alice Coltrane elements, and I was like, 0:12:38.756 --> 0:12:41.436 we should have harp on it. And I even like, 0:12:41.636 --> 0:12:44.796 Dreamboat lyrically is inspired by a piece of hers called 0:12:45.396 --> 0:12:48.676 Lovely Skyboat, and so like a dream boat is like 0:12:49.196 --> 0:12:53.196 my version of skyboat. So we had harp on it 0:12:53.356 --> 0:12:57.676 and then telescope sequencing coming after that is it's kind 0:12:57.716 --> 0:13:00.516 of like it's a it's a boat, it's a dream boat, 0:13:01.116 --> 0:13:03.636 a skyboat that takes you into space. So it made 0:13:03.676 --> 0:13:05.676 sense to put telescope next, and then we're like, fucking 0:13:05.756 --> 0:13:08.956 let's put harp on that as well. So that's why 0:13:08.996 --> 0:13:10.916 it kind of seemed like sister songs. 0:13:11.076 --> 0:13:12.836 Yeah, and also once we heard the harp, it's like 0:13:12.916 --> 0:13:13.516 he's kind of kind of. 0:13:16.396 --> 0:13:17.356 Who did the harp on that? 0:13:18.156 --> 0:13:21.956 Molina is something I played is a gijiang. There's like 0:13:22.036 --> 0:13:25.556 a Chinese harp that There's just like there's heaps of 0:13:25.756 --> 0:13:30.396 random instruments around the studio because the boys are nerds. 0:13:30.436 --> 0:13:32.836 And collect things like harpsichords and stuff. 0:13:32.876 --> 0:13:35.836 So but that one was a jam as well. 0:13:35.956 --> 0:13:38.436 It was just like Simon found this like synth sound 0:13:38.916 --> 0:13:41.116 and I was playing these gijang I can't actually play it, 0:13:41.196 --> 0:13:43.196 but I was just like, you know, fucking about or whatever. 0:13:44.356 --> 0:13:49.036 And on NASA's website, you can like type in your 0:13:49.116 --> 0:13:51.196 birthday and it will show you a picture of what 0:13:51.276 --> 0:13:54.996 the Hubble telescope took on your birthday. So each verse 0:13:55.076 --> 0:13:57.276 is about like we just typed in each band member's 0:13:57.316 --> 0:14:00.356 birthday and each verse is about that. Yeah, it was 0:14:00.476 --> 0:14:02.276 very kind of just came together. I think that was 0:14:02.316 --> 0:14:04.396 like during COVID when we were locked down and just 0:14:04.556 --> 0:14:07.996 like being really creative and shipping away at stuff and 0:14:08.396 --> 0:14:09.116 having a break. 0:14:08.956 --> 0:14:12.316 From mixing Mood Valiant. Yeah, just kind of came about 0:14:12.356 --> 0:14:13.996 and then we're just like, actually, this is pretty cool. 0:14:14.076 --> 0:14:15.596 Maybe next record potentially. 0:14:15.796 --> 0:14:17.836 And then I was going to ask about the lyrics, 0:14:17.916 --> 0:14:21.596 like if you knew about like Einstein Ring, I was like, 0:14:21.956 --> 0:14:24.596 this incredible stuff. I didn't, you know. I like to 0:14:24.596 --> 0:14:27.716 look at space, but I don't really know space is 0:14:27.756 --> 0:14:30.516 the place. I don't going on up there though, But 0:14:30.676 --> 0:14:33.436 it's like, does anybody. 0:14:35.476 --> 0:14:38.476 Well, someone who does know who knows about Einstein Ring, 0:14:39.196 --> 0:14:41.276 which is like maybe the coolest bit of trigger I've 0:14:41.316 --> 0:14:43.356 heard about this record. But like a friend of ours 0:14:43.996 --> 0:14:46.516 is doing an exhibition at the Planetarium in New York 0:14:46.916 --> 0:14:51.156 and Neil degressed Tyson's office is down the hall from there, 0:14:51.916 --> 0:14:55.876 and like I heard our friend playing it and like 0:14:56.036 --> 0:14:58.516 walked in and was like, I think thing about Einstein Ring, 0:14:58.956 --> 0:15:00.716 And I was like, who was the best? 0:15:00.876 --> 0:15:05.876 Like Coastline, you're joking, He's going to be. 0:15:05.876 --> 0:15:09.196 On our next record, going to get a collabor spoken. 0:15:08.916 --> 0:15:12.636 With this record and next record. I think that'd be 0:15:12.716 --> 0:15:18.716 incredible because it's like it really is like a like 0:15:19.396 --> 0:15:21.556 I mean, there's it's kind of like a dent lyrically, 0:15:21.596 --> 0:15:24.436 it's a little dance but you but it's also like 0:15:24.476 --> 0:15:27.396 the way you constructed it is it's concise too, Like 0:15:27.476 --> 0:15:28.756 I don't know how you got away with it. 0:15:28.796 --> 0:15:30.956 It's I don't know how I get away with anything. 0:15:32.956 --> 0:15:36.956 Just you know, raw dogging life right now, swing it. 0:15:37.316 --> 0:15:38.316 That's a good way to go for it. 0:15:41.836 --> 0:15:44.276 We'll be right back with more from hiatus Kyote after 0:15:44.356 --> 0:15:50.996 the break. We're back with more from hiatus Kyote. 0:15:52.516 --> 0:15:54.796 How do you guys change things from like when you 0:15:54.836 --> 0:15:57.036 guys are preparing to go out on tour and hit 0:15:57.076 --> 0:15:59.876 the road, how do you like and what's the rehearsal 0:16:00.076 --> 0:16:02.316 like for the album versus the rehearsal like for the 0:16:02.476 --> 0:16:04.516 road and what are you guys looking for? 0:16:05.036 --> 0:16:06.956 They don't really rehearse for the album. 0:16:07.436 --> 0:16:09.436 We just make ye just. 0:16:09.596 --> 0:16:11.476 Make make things. 0:16:11.716 --> 0:16:13.796 And then it's like, you know, the sky's sort of 0:16:13.876 --> 0:16:16.236 the limit, so you can just put any sound on 0:16:16.316 --> 0:16:18.956 the record that feels right, and then and then it's 0:16:18.996 --> 0:16:20.636 like cool, We've got to go on tour. And then 0:16:20.716 --> 0:16:26.236 it's like, oh, ship, Like how do we actually execute this? 0:16:26.836 --> 0:16:29.716 How do we do something that feels like has the 0:16:30.196 --> 0:16:33.236 scope and the you know, and and the color of 0:16:33.796 --> 0:16:35.436 the production that we've put together. 0:16:36.356 --> 0:16:38.076 So look how many fucking pedals? 0:16:38.116 --> 0:16:41.196 He has three boards and these. 0:16:42.316 --> 0:16:45.156 Got simmons and he's doing live effects as the drums, 0:16:45.156 --> 0:16:46.596 which a lot of people don't really realize. 0:16:46.956 --> 0:16:49.356 Usually I have, like, you know, I didn't need for 0:16:49.436 --> 0:16:50.076 the songs today. 0:16:50.116 --> 0:16:53.716 But there's sampler and bass synth, and he's got to 0:16:53.836 --> 0:16:55.836 you know, JJ's got a sampler over there. So it's 0:16:55.916 --> 0:16:59.636 just this puzzle of like you know, sampling stuff on 0:16:59.676 --> 0:17:03.276 the record and making heaps of different sounds and trying 0:17:03.316 --> 0:17:06.716 to figure out how to you know, encapsulate the energy 0:17:06.836 --> 0:17:09.716 and the you know, the colors of what we did. 0:17:09.876 --> 0:17:13.516 But yeah, it's always we did ourselves a pretty big 0:17:13.556 --> 0:17:16.716 hole every time, at least at least some of the 0:17:16.756 --> 0:17:18.876 tracks on the albums, like White Rabbit. 0:17:19.396 --> 0:17:23.596 White Rabbit was like hat like a fever dream. I mean, 0:17:23.636 --> 0:17:27.276 it's supposed to be a fever dream, but basically, like Bender, 0:17:27.436 --> 0:17:30.116 there was like an omnichord and we were running like 0:17:30.196 --> 0:17:34.556 this shitty rhythm thing from it through his distortion pedals, 0:17:34.596 --> 0:17:38.876 like his bass pedals, and like there was like a 0:17:39.116 --> 0:17:41.276 mixer called it Alice. 0:17:41.676 --> 0:17:43.876 What is it Alice broadcast mixer? 0:17:44.156 --> 0:17:45.756 Yeah, and it has a little picture of a white 0:17:45.836 --> 0:17:47.716 rabbit on it. So I just started singing what I 0:17:47.756 --> 0:17:52.196 could remember of White Rabbit over this curse like distorted 0:17:52.276 --> 0:17:56.516 rhythm thing of this like JANKI omnichord thing, and it 0:17:56.676 --> 0:17:58.996 was just like an experiment, just fun, and then we 0:17:59.156 --> 0:18:02.676 just kept like adding things and expanding on it, and 0:18:02.796 --> 0:18:04.996 like Benders taught himself how to play Cello's there's like 0:18:05.116 --> 0:18:08.676 cello on it, and there's a reference to like Dubussy. 0:18:08.236 --> 0:18:10.436 On it, and like what's the diversity reference. 0:18:10.756 --> 0:18:13.276 It's like claridalone is the B section because I didn't 0:18:13.316 --> 0:18:15.356 love the B section similar cords. 0:18:20.076 --> 0:18:21.196 Oh god, I can't remember. 0:18:21.956 --> 0:18:24.356 I want to hear it, but the people, yeah, the. 0:18:27.036 --> 0:18:30.836 It and the cool thing is is like I never 0:18:30.956 --> 0:18:32.556 really expected to a cover, but it just kind of 0:18:32.596 --> 0:18:35.476 came together through playfulness, which is a big part of 0:18:35.556 --> 0:18:39.916 our ethos. But also I like the idea that with 0:18:40.036 --> 0:18:44.076 White Rabbit, it's kind of like, you know, it's it's 0:18:44.196 --> 0:18:49.916 such a like iconic psychedelic moment in time, and when 0:18:49.996 --> 0:18:53.236 people cover it, they kind of do like a throwback 0:18:53.996 --> 0:18:56.356 psych thing, and I'm like, we have a whole new 0:18:56.516 --> 0:18:57.836 level of psychedelia now. 0:18:57.916 --> 0:18:58.076 You know. 0:18:58.196 --> 0:19:01.636 It's like there is new drugs, there's new wars. There's 0:19:01.836 --> 0:19:07.076 like there's like social media and like tech, you know, evolutions. 0:19:07.156 --> 0:19:10.196 So there's like it's like what does what are those 0:19:10.436 --> 0:19:13.396 themes that are still very much present today that will 0:19:13.436 --> 0:19:15.876 probably always be present as long as humans are around, 0:19:15.876 --> 0:19:18.756 because you know, but what was that sound like today? 0:19:18.916 --> 0:19:23.716 And how how how do you like approach psychedelia without 0:19:24.356 --> 0:19:28.316 referencing the sixties the sound of the sound of it 0:19:28.396 --> 0:19:32.596 exactly so so we got real weird on it. But 0:19:32.836 --> 0:19:34.996 that one's really hard to do live because there's just 0:19:35.116 --> 0:19:35.876 so much going on. 0:19:37.036 --> 0:19:39.476 Do you know where we've got it together? We did 0:19:39.556 --> 0:19:42.316 get it together so and then and then yeah, we 0:19:42.476 --> 0:19:43.876 just we just stopped. 0:19:43.916 --> 0:19:44.396 We gave up. 0:19:44.516 --> 0:19:46.356 What's the part that like, fuck you guys up? 0:19:46.756 --> 0:19:49.556 Just sound wise, in headphones, it's really hard to like 0:19:50.236 --> 0:19:53.316 get because we have so many variety of sound within 0:19:53.716 --> 0:19:56.076 within all the songs. So like for White Rabbit, it's 0:19:56.116 --> 0:19:58.116 a whole new journey for us, and we don't really 0:19:58.396 --> 0:20:00.476 understand what we all need to be able to play 0:20:00.516 --> 0:20:02.956 the song within the headphones. So it's kind of like 0:20:03.716 --> 0:20:05.156 it's going to take a long time for us to 0:20:05.196 --> 0:20:07.036 get it right. But in the rehearsal room we kind 0:20:07.076 --> 0:20:09.796 of got it. But it's a different situation to how 0:20:09.836 --> 0:20:13.396 we play live. Get there, Yeah, we'll get there. 0:20:13.436 --> 0:20:15.756 We'll get We have too much material as it is, 0:20:15.836 --> 0:20:18.636 you know, like most people like make ship and then 0:20:18.716 --> 0:20:20.996 gate keep it and then eventually show people. But we're 0:20:20.996 --> 0:20:22.916 always just like whenever something's ready, we're. 0:20:22.796 --> 0:20:25.396 Like, you know, this is this is close enough. I 0:20:25.436 --> 0:20:26.996 feel like to rehearsal setting right. 0:20:28.516 --> 0:20:30.676 It is, but there's so many sounds like I've got buttons, 0:20:30.756 --> 0:20:33.276 JJ's got buttons, Bender's got buttons, and then we're all 0:20:33.316 --> 0:20:34.516 playing as well. 0:20:34.636 --> 0:20:36.156 And then it's like he's got distortion. 0:20:36.276 --> 0:20:38.836 My ex law's got like reverb mix and there's like 0:20:38.836 --> 0:20:40.076 a whole bunch of layers on. 0:20:40.116 --> 0:20:40.636 The song, and. 0:20:42.156 --> 0:20:43.516 Yeah, it's distortion. 0:20:43.756 --> 0:20:45.676 It's hard to get it right, but we'll get there. 0:20:46.036 --> 0:20:48.076 We also have like nearly any time we go to 0:20:48.156 --> 0:20:51.156 the airport, like uber drivers just drive away. They look 0:20:51.196 --> 0:20:55.156 at the sheer amount ship we have and they're like 0:20:55.756 --> 0:20:56.556 it's not worth it. 0:20:56.716 --> 0:20:57.956 They just know. 0:20:58.036 --> 0:20:59.476 Way you guys don't have cars. I had a time 0:20:59.556 --> 0:21:01.236 right with the amount of stuff required. 0:21:01.356 --> 0:21:03.596 Yeah, we do, but there's definitely been times where people 0:21:03.796 --> 0:21:04.636 just like fucked off. 0:21:04.596 --> 0:21:08.836 And it's like, yeah, yeah, I could see that. It's 0:21:09.196 --> 0:21:11.516 it's it's intimidating to see, like I was, I was 0:21:11.556 --> 0:21:14.596 talking to you guys. Is a todo who does sound 0:21:14.636 --> 0:21:19.236 for you guys, and like it's it's an ambitious you know, 0:21:19.676 --> 0:21:20.956 getting this on the road. 0:21:20.876 --> 0:21:22.476 And he does such a good job. 0:21:22.996 --> 0:21:28.116 I mean, the the the obvious choice, you know, really 0:21:28.156 --> 0:21:30.356 would just be like put a bunch of stuff on 0:21:30.476 --> 0:21:32.956 a backing track on a laptop and just like have 0:21:33.036 --> 0:21:35.436 a click track in your ears and just like do that, 0:21:35.556 --> 0:21:36.476 but none of us want to. 0:21:36.476 --> 0:21:39.356 Do that about it, Like we we'd all just like 0:21:39.636 --> 0:21:41.756 hate it and have the worst time possible. 0:21:41.956 --> 0:21:45.396 So you know, there's a lot of complexity and just 0:21:45.436 --> 0:21:49.276 trying to recreate everything where everyone's playing as much of 0:21:49.316 --> 0:21:51.396 it as possible and we're not like leaning on any 0:21:51.436 --> 0:21:53.836 of that stuff. So you know, it's like, oh, I 0:21:53.996 --> 0:21:56.716 need to have distorted like drums on this song, you know, 0:21:56.916 --> 0:21:57.996 so that's a thing. 0:21:58.276 --> 0:22:00.396 Yeah, and that's I got a new toy here, which 0:22:00.476 --> 0:22:02.956 is like Johnny who does find a house for us 0:22:03.036 --> 0:22:05.436 and he recorded today as well. He gave me a 0:22:05.476 --> 0:22:08.276 little distortion box and that's a new element, so like, 0:22:08.436 --> 0:22:09.996 you know, just get it's like a tire a little box. 0:22:10.036 --> 0:22:12.516 And now I've got distortion of my drums so I 0:22:12.556 --> 0:22:13.156 can dial. 0:22:12.996 --> 0:22:15.596 In continue to play with that so we can hear. 0:22:16.196 --> 0:22:19.036 Yeah, I'll show you how much what it does. 0:22:20.156 --> 0:22:24.316 Also, there's so much improvisation, Like it's very specific arrangements, 0:22:24.476 --> 0:22:27.956 but like there's by not playing to a clicking track, 0:22:28.036 --> 0:22:29.956 if you're feeling something or you want to loop something 0:22:30.076 --> 0:22:32.796 or stand something, you want to improvise, like you have 0:22:32.956 --> 0:22:33.756 the capacity to do that. 0:22:34.076 --> 0:22:35.356 I wanted to ask about that because I did. I 0:22:35.396 --> 0:22:35.996 did notice that. 0:22:36.716 --> 0:22:44.236 So this is zero mm hmm. This is like. 0:22:55.516 --> 0:22:55.876 There you go. 0:22:56.156 --> 0:23:02.476 She said, it's the microphones down here. Yeah, that's it. 0:23:02.636 --> 0:23:04.276 So I got that now, and then you turn an offense. 0:23:06.556 --> 0:23:07.436 It's a big difference. 0:23:09.596 --> 0:23:12.076 Yeah, how many sounds can you get out of your kit? 0:23:12.156 --> 0:23:13.236 Do you figure a lot? 0:23:14.476 --> 0:23:15.756 Probably twenty seven? 0:23:16.236 --> 0:23:19.436 Yeah, I think twenty seven is the maximum number. No more, 0:23:19.596 --> 0:23:20.156 no more than that. 0:23:21.436 --> 0:23:24.516 Yeah, No, I've got like I've got like a Simmons 0:23:24.556 --> 0:23:28.756 over here that's got triggers to so that first row 0:23:28.916 --> 0:23:32.516 is a kick and I can change it the pitch 0:23:32.596 --> 0:23:37.036 of the length of that, and then like same with 0:23:37.156 --> 0:23:42.916 all the and then with all those guys that can 0:23:43.356 --> 0:23:51.196 can mix over here that does the the effects. And 0:23:51.236 --> 0:23:53.156 then microphone over here to record. 0:23:55.356 --> 0:23:56.116 Stuff, and then. 0:23:57.676 --> 0:23:59.676 That kind of the year you're doing something to like 0:23:59.836 --> 0:24:00.156