1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Ron and an Ian's the original LT one tune port motor. 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 1: This was the Cockamamie nightmare cockamambe being the technical operative 3 00:00:07,560 --> 00:00:10,280 Speaker 1: word that GM decided to take the distributor from up 4 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: top of the engine where it was accessible and mounted 5 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 1: on the forward part of the engine right underneath the 6 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:20,760 Speaker 1: water pump. Couldn't get it, you can get the car Doctor. 7 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:24,120 Speaker 1: Stick your head under the left side of the dashboard 8 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 1: or left side of the cluster. You're gonna see a 9 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 1: gang of relays in the way. They don't make tracers anywhere. 10 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 1: Welcome to the radio home of Ron and Anien the 11 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:36,880 Speaker 1: Car Doctor. Since this is where car owners the world 12 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:41,519 Speaker 1: overturned to for their definitive opinion on automotive repair. If 13 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:44,279 Speaker 1: your mechanics giving you a busy signal, pick up the 14 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 1: phone and call in. The garage doors are open, but 15 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 1: I am here to take your calls at eight five 16 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 1: five and now he running. Hey here, I am ready 17 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 1: to go. Eight five five zero nine zero the phone number. 18 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 1: Let's get over to Bill in Michigan. Chevy pick him 19 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 1: up truck and some break issues. Bill. Welcome to the 20 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 1: Car Doctor, sir, How can I help? Thank you? Ron Chevy. 21 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 1: This is a half ton two wheel drive with a 22 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 1: hundred sixty miles on it. The body was deteriorated so 23 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 1: bad ron I ended up buying a shell out of Texas. 24 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 1: I moved all the major components to drive train, the 25 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:30,399 Speaker 1: brake system, gas tank, rear end, rebuilt the front end. 26 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 1: I'm at the end of a restoration. My front brakes 27 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 1: will intermittently lock up. There is no pattern to this. 28 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:40,680 Speaker 1: I was thinking it was weather related. Now this truck 29 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 1: has not been driven, so sometimes if I hit the 30 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 1: brakes hard with the vehicle off the ground, I can 31 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 1: get the front wheels to unlock and it's just the 32 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 1: fronts of the backs do move. I pulled the master 33 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 1: cylinder away from the booster and it didn't change anything. 34 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 1: I'm kind of at a loss as to to go next. 35 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 1: Does this have there's a two wheel drive. Does this 36 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 1: have the brake proportioning valve in the rear above the 37 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 1: axe of the load compensating valve. No, it does not. 38 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:15,360 Speaker 1: It has the proportioning valve in the front below the 39 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 1: master cylinder. I'm not sure. I think there's two proportioning valves. 40 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 1: There is that something you well, that's why there's there's 41 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 1: there's the one that comes off the master and then 42 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 1: I remember the one that was over the rear end 43 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 1: that would compensate for a load. Is how it applied 44 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:35,360 Speaker 1: the rear brakes. It doesn't have that though it does not. 45 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:39,080 Speaker 1: It does have a computer with anti lock only for 46 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 1: the rear brakes. And there's another proportioning valve that goes 47 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:46,640 Speaker 1: into that little computer. Um oh oh oh that one. 48 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, got you. So 49 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 1: when the when the problem happens when you get the 50 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 1: brakes to lock up? All right, um, it'll lock up. 51 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 1: You haven't driven this, it'll just what is it? You 52 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:01,239 Speaker 1: just step on the brake and the pet is locked, 53 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:03,800 Speaker 1: or this happens you are driving I have I have 54 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:06,959 Speaker 1: space saver spars on it. I just raised the front 55 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:09,360 Speaker 1: end and try to move the wheels in neither front 56 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 1: neither one of the front wheels will move, all right, 57 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:13,640 Speaker 1: And in order to get the wheels to unlock, what 58 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 1: do you do? I haven't been able to get them unlocked. 59 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:19,519 Speaker 1: They do it on their own, so to speak to 60 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 1: either the weather changes. There is one thing. I can 61 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:25,240 Speaker 1: hit the brakes very hard and pump them. I can 62 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:27,639 Speaker 1: hit the pedal hard and pump it and it may 63 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:30,399 Speaker 1: or may not cause the fronts to unlocked. So when 64 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 1: the brakes are locked up front, if you cracked a bleeder, 65 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 1: they wouldn't unlock. I have not tried that, and that 66 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 1: was a question. Should I cracked the bleeder or crack 67 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 1: a line at the master. Well, let's let's let's wheel. 68 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 1: Let's let's see if it doesn't one bleeder or the other, 69 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 1: let's see, maybe we've got a bad hose. Yeah, that's 70 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 1: kind of what I was thinking. But again, both of 71 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 1: these are locked up. Okay, both front wheels are locked up, 72 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 1: and the hoses are relatively new run. I don't think 73 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 1: I put well again time. As you know, five years 74 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 1: was last week. Um. But remember you know, yeah, you know, 75 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 1: if you you don't have a set, you know, there's 76 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 1: a there's a tool set out there. I actually have 77 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 1: a set in the shop. They're kind of handy. They're 78 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:18,600 Speaker 1: a they're a hydraulic break um pressure gauge. Um. It's 79 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 1: a it's a four gage set and you can actually 80 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 1: screw it in place of the bleeder. Uh. It's a 81 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 1: reason to buy more tools. Um. But you can actually 82 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:27,599 Speaker 1: screw it in place of the bleeder. And then apply 83 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:29,600 Speaker 1: the brakes and see if you're getting equal brake pressure 84 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 1: to each wheel or you know, proportionate. And I'm not 85 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 1: saying to do that, but you know I would. I 86 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:38,360 Speaker 1: would crack the bleeder UM. I would crack one side 87 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 1: then the other. If they still don't unlock and they're 88 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 1: still locked, I mean they've got to release at that point, 89 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:47,839 Speaker 1: then I would try to get them to lock again. 90 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 1: And if you crack the line at the master, does 91 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:53,919 Speaker 1: it release? And if it does, then it sounds like 92 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:57,040 Speaker 1: it's pressure from the master's side or the prop value. 93 00:04:57,040 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 1: You could crack a line on the UH let's see, 94 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:03,159 Speaker 1: not on the feed side, but on the outbound side 95 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 1: of the prop valve. Does that release pressure? If not, 96 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 1: do it on the inbound side. Does that release pressure? 97 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 1: You know, pressure is only coming from one place. UM 98 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:17,280 Speaker 1: to bring the master would have to have worked its 99 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 1: way down to the uh caliper and cause it to 100 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 1: mechanically jam. UH. The only other thing I could think 101 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 1: of is there is a relief port when the master 102 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 1: is released that has to allow fluid to come back 103 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 1: up the other side if that was blocked, But it 104 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:37,479 Speaker 1: would have to only be on the front half of 105 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 1: the system and why it didn't affect the back brakes. Yeah, 106 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 1: good questions, you know. Okay, I will go ahead and 107 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 1: crack a bleeder and crack some lines and see what 108 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 1: we do know something. Something's got to make something move. 109 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 1: Are they new calipers or rebuild calipers or to just 110 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 1: swap them over from the donor vehicle or the original 111 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 1: to the trumph from the donor But their only well again, 112 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 1: only five years old and they don't see winter. This 113 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:06,360 Speaker 1: is a summertime only vehicle that you know. Yeah, yeah, 114 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 1: I don't have rust issues. And this is a conventional 115 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:15,359 Speaker 1: vacuum brake booster master set up or is this hydro boost? No, 116 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:18,839 Speaker 1: this is a conventional Yeah, there's there's not much there 117 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:20,479 Speaker 1: for that matter. If you want to make it, if 118 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 1: you want to keep it clean. Before you open up 119 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 1: the bleeders and the brakes are locked, why don't you 120 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:28,479 Speaker 1: pull the master off the booster if it's easy to 121 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 1: get to. I did that, roun, And that's exactly what 122 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 1: I'm calling you because I thought that would be the 123 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 1: answer that would give me a good clue as to 124 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 1: the next. So the master is off the booster and 125 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:43,360 Speaker 1: the brakes are the front brakes are still locked. Correct, Yeah, 126 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 1: I gotta go down to doing lines, and we're certain 127 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:49,479 Speaker 1: that we've got right components, nothing mix and match or 128 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:53,239 Speaker 1: no wrong componentry um. And that's when it was working 129 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 1: when it came off the donor vehicle. Okay, okay, so yeah, 130 00:06:56,920 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 1: let's let's let's let's crack a bleeder. We we dislodged 131 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 1: some thing and put some debris somewhere maybe, but let's 132 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 1: let's start working our way backwards up there with lines. 133 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 1: All right, sounds good, Ron, I appreciate the time with 134 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 1: Thank you again for the information. You're very welcome Bill anytime. 135 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 1: Pal Um. Yeah. Sometimes diagnosis is uh is really uh, 136 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 1: you know, a step by step process. It's it's and 137 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 1: you know you don't know what you don't know. You know, 138 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 1: you've got to have good solid information. So and that's uh, 139 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 1: that's all part about being a mechanic. I I can't 140 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 1: tell you how many times during the course of the 141 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 1: week I I I say this all the time. I 142 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 1: spend probably the first half hour to forty five minutes 143 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 1: of any diagnosis reading and gathering information and just how 144 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 1: does this work? How is it supposed to work? Then? 145 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 1: How can I test it, so um just you know, 146 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 1: that's what we're about here, giving you out information. Speaking 147 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 1: of which, before I pull over for the pause down 148 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 1: at the bottom of the hour, Michelin, right, we all 149 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 1: know the name Michelin, Michelin Tires, right, the great tire 150 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 1: that they are. Well, they've branched off and now they're 151 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 1: making belts, tensioners and idlers. And we've arranged to talk 152 00:07:57,160 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 1: to Jean Triplet. He is one of the key individuals 153 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 1: re re sponsible for developing the Michelin Belts, tensioners and 154 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 1: Idler's program, and that we're gonna talk to Gene down 155 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 1: around the bottom of the hour a little bit about 156 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 1: serpentine and belt maintenance and the value of idlers and 157 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 1: tentioners and all the good stuff like that there, So 158 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 1: I'll stick around for that that's coming up at the 159 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 1: bottom of the hour. Right now, let's pull take a pause. 160 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 1: When we come back, we're gonna go to Gary and Wisconsin, 161 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 1: So stay tuned. I'm runing any of the car doctor. 162 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 1: I'll be back right after this. The g t O 163 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 1: need advice on how they're maintaining that classic g t 164 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:42,719 Speaker 1: O ron is the guy five five five zero nine 165 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:45,839 Speaker 1: zero zero. Here's Ron. Hey, let's get over and talk 166 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:49,440 Speaker 1: to Gary, Wisconsin, Rendezvous. Gary. Welcome to the car doctor, sir, 167 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 1: How can I help? Uh? First of all, Ron, you call. 168 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:56,080 Speaker 1: I talked to you about three years ago and you 169 00:08:56,240 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 1: told me to what to do with my two thousand 170 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:07,440 Speaker 1: GMC and that worked. It worked well good, I'm still 171 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 1: driving it. You told me to put hub oil in 172 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 1: the front differential and it quieted right down. They haven't 173 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 1: made a sound sense. Yeah, hub oil is kind of 174 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 1: neat stuff. It's um, it's not well, it's not really 175 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:20,679 Speaker 1: discussed or talked about. I don't think a lot of 176 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 1: people know it, know it out there, that it exists. Um, 177 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 1: but yeah, it's it's it's We keep the bottle on 178 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:28,680 Speaker 1: the shelf at the shop all the time. Anytime we 179 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 1: service the front if of a GM product, we always 180 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:33,680 Speaker 1: put a third of the bottle in, maybe a little 181 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 1: bit more to pear on mileage and it seems to 182 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 1: make a real difference. So, yeah, what are we working 183 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:42,199 Speaker 1: on today? I've got a All five Rendezvous high miler 184 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:49,559 Speaker 1: and the as A A W the all wheel all 185 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:53,720 Speaker 1: wheel drive disability disabled light is on and the A 186 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 1: B S light is on. So I got a I 187 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 1: got ahead of myself a little bit. I talked myself 188 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 1: into the FA that that we're differential slow valve was 189 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 1: the problem, so I removed it. So I removed it. 190 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:13,720 Speaker 1: And the problem I'm having is I don't believe it is. 191 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:17,440 Speaker 1: I think there's some relationship between the all we all 192 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:23,720 Speaker 1: drive and A B S that's not functioning correctly as well. 193 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 1: And I'm trying to figure out whether or not there's 194 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:32,679 Speaker 1: some way to bench test this uh flow velve to 195 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 1: see if it's working properly well before we before we 196 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 1: go there? Have you? Have you scanned this for codes? Gary? 197 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 1: I have not. Okay, why don't we start there? Well, 198 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 1: I don't have any. I don't have a code reader 199 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 1: for anything other than O B D two. So that's 200 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 1: why did I did I tell you about the time 201 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 1: machine I'm going to invent Okay, you know, but you 202 00:10:58,200 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 1: know what, I don't have the technology to do it, 203 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 1: So I can't do that. But that doesn't mean I'm 204 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 1: not going to attack the problem a different way. UM, 205 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 1: but in your case, in your case, you need a 206 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:10,560 Speaker 1: code reader, you need something that's going to tell you. 207 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 1: Because my next question is gonna be once you once 208 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 1: you tell me the vehicle has code or doesn't have codes, 209 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 1: then I'm gonna ask you to test some key components. 210 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 1: Here's the deal, all right. You know, you're you're you're 211 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 1: trying to paint the house with a toothbrush, and you're 212 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 1: just making it too hard on yourself. You know, it 213 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:29,839 Speaker 1: just it just doesn't work. If this vehicle has a 214 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 1: fault with a wheel speed sensor alright, one of the 215 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:35,840 Speaker 1: front wheel bearings or one of the rear rear front 216 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:38,200 Speaker 1: of rear reel bearing one or the other, um a 217 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 1: bad wheel bearing sensor signal output into the OLL wheel 218 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 1: drive control module. We'll put that vehicle. It'll do a 219 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 1: bunch of things. It will put it in limp in, 220 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 1: it'll disable all wheel drive, and it'll turn on the 221 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 1: OLL wheel drive in a b S lights. So you know, 222 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:57,200 Speaker 1: we can test everything you want on that oh five 223 00:11:57,240 --> 00:11:59,959 Speaker 1: buk within reason, but we're not going to fix the car. 224 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:01,680 Speaker 1: We're gonna learn a lot, but we're not gonna fix 225 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:05,679 Speaker 1: the car. So you know the next step, all right, 226 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:07,840 Speaker 1: you gotta get yourself a scan tool. You know, you 227 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 1: gotta go out there and you've gotta spend you know, 228 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 1: between four and eight bucks, and uh, either buy something 229 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:16,840 Speaker 1: used on eBay. You know, somebody's something that a shop 230 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 1: is giving up that's in good condition and you gotta look. 231 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 1: You know, they're gonna have their fingerprints all over it. 232 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 1: But is is the rest of it there? Because you 233 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 1: obviously you don't need something brandy spanking new, you know, 234 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 1: or you're just gonna go You're gonna go out the 235 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:29,839 Speaker 1: Launch Tech USA dot com. Get out to the launch 236 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 1: tech website and see what Launch has to offer in 237 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:34,960 Speaker 1: that price point range. Um, take a look at some 238 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:37,440 Speaker 1: of their d I Y tools. I believe it's Millennium Master. 239 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 1: The Millennium Master is their newest d I Y scan tool. 240 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 1: And then um, they've got a Millennium Master Pro if 241 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 1: I remember right, which is the one geared towards repair shops. 242 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:50,079 Speaker 1: It's you know, it's it's it's a little higher in 243 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:51,560 Speaker 1: the dollars and you know, I think it's a thousand 244 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 1: or twelve bucks. But you can you can at least 245 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:57,440 Speaker 1: verify will that let you go in and read fault 246 00:12:57,480 --> 00:12:59,719 Speaker 1: codes and all modules. Yeah, unfortunately, there's just no way 247 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 1: around because it doesn't matter what you think. And you know, 248 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lecture you listen. I admire you for trying, 249 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:06,679 Speaker 1: but it doesn't matter what you are I think is 250 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 1: wrong with it until we test it. Until you know, 251 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 1: we're guessing. We're throwing darts at the wall, and that 252 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:14,440 Speaker 1: that that doesn't get us anywhere. Does the vehicle have 253 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 1: reduced power? Okay, so it's still it still has power, 254 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 1: it's just got those two lights on. All right, Well 255 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 1: wait a minute. Reduced power? You know, there is a 256 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:33,200 Speaker 1: there is a pause when I'm when I'm driving, step 257 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 1: on the if I step on the accelerator fast, it'll 258 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 1: die down, right, It's got a hesitation to it. Yeah, hesitate, 259 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 1: it'll hesitate down. Yeah. It sounds like it sounds like 260 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:49,440 Speaker 1: you've got to reduce power function going on, which which 261 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:52,080 Speaker 1: that can also be related to the A B S 262 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 1: and the old wheel drive. Those early years were very 263 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 1: primitive for GM. You know, they wanted to accomplish some 264 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:02,199 Speaker 1: safety standards and do a couple of things there to 265 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 1: keep the vehicle, you know, upright and going forward. But 266 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:08,080 Speaker 1: they didn't. They weren't great. But you know, now you've 267 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 1: got complications. So a bad a BS wheel speed sensor 268 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 1: if that's what it is, can obviously turn on the 269 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:15,959 Speaker 1: A B S light, but it will also disable or 270 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 1: or limit all wheel drive operation, and it will disable 271 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 1: and limit engine power output ability. So it's just they're 272 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 1: just trying to make it a minimum so you can 273 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 1: get home. You know, they want you to. Nobody's marketing 274 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 1: department likes the idea of while my car got stuck 275 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 1: on the side of the road. Uh you know, they 276 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 1: want you to be able to get home. Uh you know, 277 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 1: so you gotta scan it. That's your first step. And 278 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 1: I don't mean O, B D two. Somebody's somebody's got 279 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 1: to go in your make model and and look at 280 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 1: all the modules. So listen, it's it's it's it's not pretty, 281 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 1: but it's what. It's the way. It's where we're at now, 282 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 1: you know. We um I'm trying to think of an example. 283 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 1: We had a we had something or other the other 284 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 1: day and we scanned it for fault codes. I think 285 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 1: the radio wasn't working. It was. It was an older 286 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 1: Chevrolet something about six seven years old, and we scanned 287 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 1: it for fault codes, just just on a on a giggle, 288 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 1: just to see what would we see before we went 289 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 1: through powers and grounds and look. And it turned out 290 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 1: there was a communication fault with the radio. We had 291 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 1: to do a battery reset, and the battery reset solve 292 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 1: the radio problem. We're not sure why it happened, but 293 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 1: the network went down, it lost track of the radio. 294 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 1: The radio wasn't deemed as being on the network, so 295 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 1: it didn't allow the radio to work. And we did 296 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 1: her hard reset and it's fixed. We never would have 297 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 1: found that if we didn't do a scan. You know, 298 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 1: it's it's it's just it's just that important. So it's 299 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 1: just something that you gotta do. Alright, kiddo, all right, 300 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 1: I'll take care of the scanning. Yeah, scan it, and 301 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 1: then we can kind of talk. We can kind of 302 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 1: talk more so because uh um, otherwise you're just gonna 303 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 1: spin your wheels. Alright, kiddo. Good good to hear from 304 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 1: you anytime. You're very thank you, You're very welcome. Garrett. Hey, 305 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 1: do you see the article recently that UM and I 306 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 1: like this that Ford is talking why it's not gonna 307 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 1: go all elect look like GM and I think we 308 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 1: talked about this, but I want to go over it 309 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 1: again because it was I keep reading this article over 310 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 1: and over again. Ford has committed fifty billion. That's that's 311 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 1: billion with a B to electrify it's lineup and you know, 312 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 1: to put the cars the bactories together. But Ford CEO 313 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 1: Jim Farley said it is also continuing to spend on 314 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 1: internal combustion engine models like Mustang, which is recently unbailble 315 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 1: to the Detroit Auto Show in the upcoming F series 316 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 1: super duty pickups. We're investing in internal combustion engine segments 317 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 1: where we're dominant and where we think as competitors leave 318 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 1: the segments, we can actually grow, Farley told Fox Business. 319 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 1: See that's smart, right, because car companies are gonna get 320 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 1: out of the internal combustion engine business and they're gonna 321 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 1: leave that portion of the market wide open because I 322 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 1: don't think we're gonna be able to well million reasons, right. 323 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 1: I don't think we're gonna be able to go all 324 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 1: electric as fast as we want to. You know. It's 325 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 1: like I always say, I want to be seventeen again. 326 00:16:56,800 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 1: That's not happening anytime soon. So, uh, you know, kudos 327 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 1: to Mr Farley for his efforts, and uh, I applaud 328 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:05,879 Speaker 1: you for that, sir. I think that's uh, I think 329 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 1: that's really forward thinking. Um. The article continues, Some states 330 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 1: are in limbo after California's new electric car mandates. Look 331 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:16,399 Speaker 1: will do it's required, Farley continues to say, but we're 332 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 1: going to grow our ev business to two million vehicles 333 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:20,439 Speaker 1: in four years and most of what most of that 334 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:22,639 Speaker 1: will be conquest. But we want these loyal customers. I 335 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:25,360 Speaker 1: wanta have to fifties and Broncos and Mustangs to continue 336 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 1: having a great experience with Ford. Jim Farley has overseen 337 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 1: a dramatic transformation. And Ford has it invested in electric vehicles, 338 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:34,480 Speaker 1: and and and he has, and they are and I'm 339 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 1: not saying we won't be, but I just don't think 340 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:39,399 Speaker 1: it's coming as fast as everybody makes it out to be. 341 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:42,879 Speaker 1: So kudos to Ford Motor Company. Mr Farley. Hey, uh, 342 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:45,680 Speaker 1: Serpent team belts right, kind of like the Rodney danger 343 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 1: field of the vehicle. We don't We don't really think 344 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:49,679 Speaker 1: a lot about him. We kind of take them for granted. 345 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:52,440 Speaker 1: But you know what if the belt breaks, the car 346 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:55,360 Speaker 1: stops and its tracks very quickly, and uh, nothing worse 347 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:56,639 Speaker 1: than being on the side of the road with a 348 00:17:56,680 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 1: bad belt. Well, technology has changed the way we're making 349 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 1: these change the need to look at belts and how 350 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:06,920 Speaker 1: we diagnose and repair belts and componentry. All that's changed 351 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:09,240 Speaker 1: and updated. The folks for Michelin are here to talk 352 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 1: to us about it. Coming up next, Gene Triplet when 353 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:13,639 Speaker 1: the car doctor returns, So don't go away. I'll be 354 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:43,639 Speaker 1: back right after this. Thanks, Hey, welcome back listeners. You 355 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 1: know this time of year, like well, I guess every 356 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 1: time a year, we're gonna start thinking about getting our 357 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 1: vehicles ready, uh for wherever we're going, but particularly this 358 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:53,439 Speaker 1: time of year, cold weather is almost upon us and 359 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:55,040 Speaker 1: it's a good time to think about the things that 360 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:58,200 Speaker 1: we normally do on a seasonal basis. And belts, tensioners 361 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 1: and idlers, they're just so important. Right with that. If 362 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 1: that little serpent teinae belt or that that serpent teaem belt, 363 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 1: maybe it's not so little fails, the car is gonna 364 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:08,439 Speaker 1: stop right in its track. So we've reached out to 365 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 1: one of the industry experts and we're gonna talk to 366 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:13,160 Speaker 1: Jane Triplett. He is over at Michelin. Michelin is now 367 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 1: getting involved in belts, tensioners and idlers and were happening 368 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 1: to add Jean Triplett to the cause here. As we 369 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 1: continue to try and take care of your cause. Gene. 370 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 1: Welcome to the car doctor. Thank you very much, glad 371 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:27,880 Speaker 1: to be here. So you know, Michelin has never sold belts, 372 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 1: tensioners or idlers before. Right, this is Michelin that we 373 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:34,400 Speaker 1: all know the name. UM. You know what made them 374 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:37,120 Speaker 1: want to add this to their portfolio? And how's it going? 375 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 1: How are people responding to it? Well? As UH? As 376 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 1: you know, Michelin has a long history of making quality 377 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 1: tires and other automotive products, and as the world leader 378 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 1: of mobility company um AND dedicated to enhancing the clients 379 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 1: mobility and stability UM and and quite frankly, nobody knows 380 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:02,120 Speaker 1: rubber like Michelin. The products where the next best UH 381 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:05,880 Speaker 1: segment of their product line. So we've looked at adding 382 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 1: the belts, the tensioners and idlers into the product line 383 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:14,639 Speaker 1: UM to help keep the customers the end users are 384 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 1: safe on the road and to save them more money 385 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 1: UM improving fuel efficiency as well as focusing on that 386 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:27,239 Speaker 1: safety for those customers. UM. Some people, some people might say, 387 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:29,679 Speaker 1: you know, belts have been around for a hundred years. 388 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 1: What are you guys doing different? How are you building 389 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 1: a better mouse trap? Well, Michelin as always has a 390 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:41,440 Speaker 1: very high quality expectations. So all of these belts are 391 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 1: being you are going through that that high quality testing requirements, 392 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:49,399 Speaker 1: making sure that they give you the same quality and 393 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:54,400 Speaker 1: the expectations as an OE product. And so it's UH, 394 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:57,520 Speaker 1: it's right there with the OE design in ensuring your 395 00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:01,160 Speaker 1: vehicles running at the top efficiency. So it's it's obviously 396 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:04,199 Speaker 1: it's a premium product. It's not. It's not UM on 397 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:06,439 Speaker 1: the lower end of the scales. We would expect for Michelin, 398 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 1: as you say, Michelin makes a great time. We would 399 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 1: expect anything with their involvement with rubber has to be 400 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 1: good because you know, history has shown us that for sure, UM, 401 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:18,159 Speaker 1: is there a maintenance schedule? You know, how do we 402 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 1: know when do we want to check our belt? Is it? 403 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 1: Is it just a seasonal thing? You know? If I'm 404 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:24,200 Speaker 1: driving a two year old vehicle, am I worried about 405 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:25,600 Speaker 1: or do I start to look at it at the 406 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 1: five year mark? How does that play into this? Well, 407 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 1: we always recommend that everybody look at their o e 408 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 1: UM requirements or their own o e UM recommended changing 409 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:40,080 Speaker 1: UH time frames. But normally the average replacement is somewhere 410 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:43,040 Speaker 1: between seventy five and a hundred thousand miles, and you 411 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:45,719 Speaker 1: should start checking your belts for wear around that sixty 412 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 1: tho mile market. It's it also depends on what part 413 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 1: of the country you're in and what your region's climates 414 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:55,959 Speaker 1: are like, which will dictate also how soon and how 415 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:58,680 Speaker 1: frequent you change out those belts. I'm gonna get in 416 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 1: my vehicle tomorrow morning and it's gonna be you know, 417 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 1: twenty five degrees. It's nice and cold, and I'm sitting 418 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:06,400 Speaker 1: there warming it up in the driveway and jee, I've 419 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 1: got this noise under the hood that I didn't have before. 420 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 1: Not it sounds it sounds like the belt. Um Am, 421 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:14,440 Speaker 1: I just going to replace the belt or take it 422 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 1: to my mechanic and say, hey, change the belt. The 423 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:19,920 Speaker 1: belts noisier. Are there other things that need to be considered? 424 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 1: You know, what are the signs that I've got a 425 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 1: bead belt, a bad tension, or a bead idler. So 426 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:27,359 Speaker 1: some of the things that you want to look for 427 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:32,160 Speaker 1: is that, just like you mentioned the noise to check engine, 428 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 1: um you might have some heavy steering. Obviously not this 429 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:39,040 Speaker 1: time of year because it's cold, You're not gonna have 430 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:41,399 Speaker 1: your air conditioning on, but maybe your air conditioning is 431 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 1: not working properly. All those are indications that those belts 432 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:47,920 Speaker 1: are not working properly, and so you want to keep 433 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 1: an eye on those type of things. But you can 434 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:52,639 Speaker 1: also look under the hood and see if those belts 435 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:56,920 Speaker 1: are cracked. UM. And again, as I mentioned, it will 436 00:22:56,960 --> 00:23:00,240 Speaker 1: depend on what part of the country your your liveing in. 437 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:03,399 Speaker 1: It will depend on what your climate is like in 438 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:06,639 Speaker 1: that part of the country, which will dictate how often 439 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:11,480 Speaker 1: you want to to change those belts out. But you know, 440 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:15,440 Speaker 1: the more dryer type of climates are going to make 441 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:19,200 Speaker 1: that belt dry out sooner, or if you're not driving 442 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:21,679 Speaker 1: your vehicle that often, you want to look at uh, 443 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:25,359 Speaker 1: taking care of those belts more often. Back to the 444 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 1: part of your original question though, is that, UM, you 445 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:32,920 Speaker 1: know when you do change out your belts, UH, if 446 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:35,879 Speaker 1: your belts making a noise, or if you're you're seeing 447 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 1: some issues with a heavy experience as an example, you 448 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 1: want to change out the belt. The tensioners and the 449 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:44,960 Speaker 1: idlers together, they all work together. They are a team 450 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:49,159 Speaker 1: in the ensuring the efficiency of the vehicle, and most 451 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:53,159 Speaker 1: often UM than not, it is UM it's them that 452 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 1: are together working together. You want to make sure that 453 00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:58,240 Speaker 1: you have the highest quality products sitting there. So you 454 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:00,720 Speaker 1: don't want to change out your belt, put a brand 455 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 1: new belt on it and have an old tensioner or 456 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:05,879 Speaker 1: idler there. You want to put them all brand news 457 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:08,720 Speaker 1: so that they all work together efficiently. And of course 458 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:11,080 Speaker 1: when we're looking at our belts, it's it's color, as 459 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:14,440 Speaker 1: you say, it's it's cracking an overall condition, but it's 460 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 1: also depth of the of the belt itself. Right, there's 461 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 1: a way to measure the depth of the grooves of 462 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:23,159 Speaker 1: a serpentine belt. And and you know, just like we 463 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 1: look at the tread on a tire, comes back to 464 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 1: tires again with Michelin. Uh you know that that that 465 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:32,879 Speaker 1: that that the belt will actually wear out just like 466 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:34,920 Speaker 1: a tire when it gets down below a certain level, 467 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:38,879 Speaker 1: the belt goes correct. Yes, you know, so that becomes 468 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 1: a failure. Um when you talk about you know, belts, tensioners, 469 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:46,440 Speaker 1: and idlers, you can purchase them individually. Does Michelin give 470 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:49,440 Speaker 1: us the option to purchase it as a kid? You know, thinking, gee, 471 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:51,040 Speaker 1: if we're gonna change it, let's just buy it as 472 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:53,760 Speaker 1: a kit and get it over with. Yeah, So we 473 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 1: the Michelin product to sell sold on Amazon today and 474 00:24:57,560 --> 00:24:59,879 Speaker 1: you can go out there and look. Um, we do 475 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,679 Speaker 1: sell them as a kit so that when you identify 476 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:07,160 Speaker 1: your product, um, your application, your vehicle, it'll tell you 477 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:10,320 Speaker 1: these are the three items. So here's the serpentine belt, 478 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:14,199 Speaker 1: here's the tensioner, here is the idler. So um, you 479 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 1: can buy it as a kit and Amazon will ship 480 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:18,639 Speaker 1: it as a as a virtual kit to you, or 481 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:22,480 Speaker 1: you can buy it individually as individually. Amazon's the only 482 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 1: place right now as far as picking up Michelin belts, 483 00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 1: tensioners and idlers gene. Yeah, so you can. You can 484 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:33,920 Speaker 1: go to the Michelin Belts UM store at Amazon as 485 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:37,439 Speaker 1: well at Amazon dot com backslash Michelin, or you can 486 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 1: visit Premium Auto Products dot Com. Both of them will 487 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:43,680 Speaker 1: take you back to Amazon, but Amazon is the prime 488 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 1: location for purchasing this product. Um. As far as the listeners, 489 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 1: before I let you go, is the website again or 490 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:53,480 Speaker 1: where's the website? Of the listeners want more information about 491 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:56,800 Speaker 1: Michelin belts, tensioners and idlers and overall you know belt 492 00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:59,159 Speaker 1: belt maintenance, how to check their belts as their website, 493 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:02,600 Speaker 1: you guys have up Yeah, so again Amazon dot com, 494 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:05,919 Speaker 1: back slash Michelin, We'll take you directly to the Michelin 495 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:09,480 Speaker 1: store or um Premium Auto Products dot com cool Beans 496 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:11,199 Speaker 1: Gene is always a pleasure to talk to you and 497 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:12,879 Speaker 1: take good care of your called you. You were a 498 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:15,840 Speaker 1: trooper today. I appreciate you getting through it. Um, thank you. 499 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 1: The listeners appreciate it to you'd be well and we'll 500 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:21,200 Speaker 1: talk to you again real soon. Okay, thank you, You're 501 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 1: very welcome. I'm running the Car Doctor. We are back 502 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:36,959 Speaker 1: right after this. Don't go away. Welcome back, ran name 503 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:38,879 Speaker 1: the Car Doctor once again thanks to Jean Triplett and 504 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:41,560 Speaker 1: the folks over at Michel and Mission Belts, tensioners and idlers. 505 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 1: More information onlinemanber You can pick those up via Amazon. 506 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:48,200 Speaker 1: Let's let's go over to Jesse and Missouri ran with 507 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:50,480 Speaker 1: a V ten Jesse. Welcome to the Car Doctor, sir. 508 00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 1: How can I help? Thank you so much for taking 509 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:57,200 Speaker 1: my call. I just ran onto your program by accident 510 00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 1: going down the highway. Oh well, we're glad to have you, sir. 511 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:02,760 Speaker 1: How can I what my problem is? I have a 512 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:09,880 Speaker 1: Dodge V ten motor uh four wheel drive. I bought 513 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:14,600 Speaker 1: to vehicle brand new and Uh. It has been a 514 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:19,720 Speaker 1: perfect truck up until about five years ago. Uh. You 515 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,679 Speaker 1: can be going down the highway with it running fine. 516 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 1: I pull a fifth wheel trailer with it sometimes no problem, 517 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 1: running great, and all of a sudden it'll just start 518 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:33,480 Speaker 1: bucking and jumping missing out. I've had to have it 519 00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:36,920 Speaker 1: towed in more than once. I've had it two dealers 520 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:44,440 Speaker 1: in North Dakota, South Dakota, UH, Minnesota, Missouri, and numerous 521 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:49,160 Speaker 1: independent mechanics, and nobody can find out what's the matter 522 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:54,360 Speaker 1: with it. Uh. The latest diagnosis I got was from 523 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:57,960 Speaker 1: an ex Chrysler man and he says it's in the 524 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:02,000 Speaker 1: wiring system. So how many miles are on at Jesse 525 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:11,960 Speaker 1: thousand original plugs? No? No, we no, no we. There's 526 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,480 Speaker 1: been two plug changes in it since I had it. 527 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:21,480 Speaker 1: We've we've changed the throughout positioning sensor. We've changed the 528 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:28,600 Speaker 1: Uh it doesn't matter on the end of the crank 529 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:34,400 Speaker 1: position censor. No fault codes right. Well, No, it's got 530 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:38,680 Speaker 1: that O B D one on it, and I don't 531 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:40,720 Speaker 1: know nobody knows how to read that O B D 532 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 1: one or it's absolutely worthless, which most mechanics tell me. 533 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:48,160 Speaker 1: The O B D C one system was worthless. Well 534 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:51,160 Speaker 1: it wasn't. It wasn't as high tech as the O 535 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 1: b D two. But you know what, I can't sit 536 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 1: on my rear end and say, well, it's not O 537 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:57,480 Speaker 1: b D two. I can't diagnose it. I'm a mechanic. 538 00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:01,440 Speaker 1: That's what I'm supposed to do. So you know, the 539 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:05,000 Speaker 1: better shops have kept their O b D one equipment around. 540 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,200 Speaker 1: I've still got mine minds wrapped in a plastic bag 541 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:09,240 Speaker 1: hanging up on the pegboard and cast ever needed. So 542 00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 1: enough about that. You know, I'm just curious, are we 543 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:13,480 Speaker 1: gonna see a fault code where we're gonna see a 544 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:16,160 Speaker 1: forty three which tells me we've got a problem on 545 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:18,760 Speaker 1: cylinders one and six? Are we you know, just just 546 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:20,480 Speaker 1: what sort of fauld codes are in there? Do you 547 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:22,240 Speaker 1: ever see? And no, you won't, Actually you want to 548 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:24,520 Speaker 1: take that back question back. You won't see a check 549 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:26,960 Speaker 1: engine light because it's pre O b D two. It's 550 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:29,360 Speaker 1: O b D one, So you know part of the 551 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:32,560 Speaker 1: puzzle here is lying in that plug. Well I do 552 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:36,440 Speaker 1: see a check engine light though, okay, all right, so yeah, 553 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:39,320 Speaker 1: that's when it gets acting up like that. The check 554 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 1: engine light definitely comes on. All right, So when the 555 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:46,440 Speaker 1: next time it happens, because depending upon how much time 556 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:50,280 Speaker 1: has gone by from now since then, I'd love to 557 00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:52,320 Speaker 1: see what fault codes are in there. I mean that 558 00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:55,120 Speaker 1: could put you in a direction in a heartbeat, that 559 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 1: could lead to a pennant faster than uh the Mets 560 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:04,760 Speaker 1: trying to win the World Series. Um, we've changed the 561 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:11,280 Speaker 1: computer before we continue to change stuff. Listen, you can 562 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:14,320 Speaker 1: check up a cheap, good old school O B O 563 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:19,280 Speaker 1: B D one scanner up on eBay. Uh real easy, Um, 564 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:21,440 Speaker 1: take a look. Go to eBay. Go look for an 565 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:28,440 Speaker 1: empty snap on scanner. All right, we called it empty 566 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:34,680 Speaker 1: Michael Thomas, alright, scanner. I bet you can pick that 567 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 1: thing up for under five hundred bucks. We called it 568 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:39,240 Speaker 1: the brick and had it was state of the art. 569 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:42,320 Speaker 1: It's day alright. Make sure it's got the right cable 570 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:44,760 Speaker 1: for O B D one. It should, all right, And 571 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 1: at least if you can get codes out of this, 572 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 1: that's half the battle. Brother. Now, I'll tell you where 573 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:52,280 Speaker 1: I think I would look. You know, without going for codes, 574 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,959 Speaker 1: I would pay very careful attention to the engine wiring harness. 575 00:30:56,240 --> 00:31:00,560 Speaker 1: All right, Um, this has the six pack coin is this. 576 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 1: This is not individual coils, right, This has one one 577 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:06,640 Speaker 1: large coil up on top of the motor. No, no, 578 00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:11,320 Speaker 1: it's scot It's got six different packs. Okay, it's got 579 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 1: six different coil packs, right, because go ahead now, I 580 00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:18,440 Speaker 1: don't think it's that. I think it's if it isn't 581 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:21,400 Speaker 1: the wiring. There's a black gray wire that comes off 582 00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:23,440 Speaker 1: the PCM. If this is the motor I'm thinking of, 583 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,040 Speaker 1: there's a black gray that comes off at pin nineteen 584 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:29,040 Speaker 1: of the PCM and it goes to the it goes 585 00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:33,640 Speaker 1: to the coil pack. That particular wire creates all sorts 586 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:37,880 Speaker 1: of misfire and bucking faults. Make sure and you can 587 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:40,600 Speaker 1: own there's gonna be feed wires going from the coil 588 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:44,440 Speaker 1: to the PCM. You could own those. You could even 589 00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:46,920 Speaker 1: disconnect them at the PCM and at the coil end 590 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:49,960 Speaker 1: and run twelve volts and ground through each leg, or 591 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,800 Speaker 1: run twelve volts through each leg. Can it power up 592 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:54,560 Speaker 1: a light bulb at the other end if we wanted 593 00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:56,760 Speaker 1: to check the seat of the wires have high resistance 594 00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 1: in them? All right? You know, so there's there's thing 595 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:02,320 Speaker 1: as we can test. But before we go down this 596 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:06,760 Speaker 1: elaborate method of doing this, You know, Jesse, this is 597 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:09,920 Speaker 1: no different. Then you go to the doctor and he says, Doc, 598 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,720 Speaker 1: my elbow hurts. Sorry, my X ray machine is broken today. 599 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:18,080 Speaker 1: Let's guess, right if the if the X ray machine 600 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:19,920 Speaker 1: was broken, we would wait and try and find another 601 00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:21,880 Speaker 1: X ray machine, or we'd find a way to get 602 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:24,280 Speaker 1: the rest of that information because there's an awful lot 603 00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:30,000 Speaker 1: of parts you can change in poke at right. All right, 604 00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 1: So I have located now a supposed to be a 605 00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:40,320 Speaker 1: wiring harnessed technician uh down in Kansas City, Missour about 606 00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:44,680 Speaker 1: fifty miles away from me, and I'm thinking I'll have 607 00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:47,600 Speaker 1: to trailer down because I'm gonna take it down the 608 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:50,760 Speaker 1: highway and just runs wonderful and pretty soon I'm sitting 609 00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:53,120 Speaker 1: off the side of the highway. Right. Well, I'm gonna 610 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:55,280 Speaker 1: take it down to him and see if he can 611 00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:57,840 Speaker 1: come up and see if and ask him before you 612 00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:01,120 Speaker 1: take it down there, ask him does he have does 613 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:03,880 Speaker 1: he have uh, you know, an O B D one 614 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 1: scan tool? And then to me, it's worth the trip 615 00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:07,960 Speaker 1: until you get that tool in your hand, you're only 616 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:10,560 Speaker 1: looking at half the possible problems. I appreciate the call, 617 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:12,320 Speaker 1: Jesse give me a shout. I mean, hey, make out. 618 00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:14,200 Speaker 1: I'm glad to help and walk you through this as 619 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:16,080 Speaker 1: best I can. From my end, I'm running any in 620 00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:29,520 Speaker 1: the car. Doctor, I'm back right after this welcome back. 621 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:32,520 Speaker 1: I had to um. I had to work on a 622 00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:34,720 Speaker 1: diesel truck two weeks ago. We had to do a 623 00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:39,600 Speaker 1: water pump. And there's a special tool that's required to 624 00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:45,520 Speaker 1: lock the flywheel in place so you can take the crank, 625 00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:48,880 Speaker 1: take the harmonic balancer off, uh the pulley on the 626 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:51,640 Speaker 1: front of the crank. And it was a forty fifty 627 00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:54,600 Speaker 1: dollar tool kit. And it was an O two Chevy 628 00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:56,760 Speaker 1: Silverado wh fix all the it fits all the dirmax 629 00:33:56,840 --> 00:34:01,120 Speaker 1: as I think up through oh six. Now you could 630 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:04,280 Speaker 1: ask yourself, because I had one somewhere in the shop. 631 00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:06,440 Speaker 1: I don't know where it went. It's, you know, as 632 00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:09,080 Speaker 1: organized as the shop is, we still gee where we 633 00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:11,160 Speaker 1: put that every once in a while. And I bought 634 00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:13,480 Speaker 1: another one. And you can make the argument in your head, 635 00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:15,120 Speaker 1: you know, Gee, fifty dollars is a lot of money. 636 00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:18,440 Speaker 1: But like our last caller, how many parts have been 637 00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:20,759 Speaker 1: thrown at this car. They've changed spark plugs twice, they've 638 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:24,160 Speaker 1: changed coils, twice, they've changed the crank sensor, they've done 639 00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:29,200 Speaker 1: all sorts of parts component replacement, and nobody wants to 640 00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:34,040 Speaker 1: scan that O B D one light. You can't, you 641 00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:36,839 Speaker 1: know you can. You can put lipstick on a pig. 642 00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:40,360 Speaker 1: It's still a pig, all right. Um. You can't diagnose 643 00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:42,960 Speaker 1: something without knowing what you need to know. You don't 644 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:45,839 Speaker 1: know what you don't know. Um, the amount of money 645 00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:49,439 Speaker 1: you spend on parts to guess you know what, spent 646 00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:52,279 Speaker 1: five or a thousand dollars on a tool and no, 647 00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:54,960 Speaker 1: And this way you'll fix it quicker, and you'll have 648 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:56,879 Speaker 1: a tool for the next time you want to make 649 00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:59,000 Speaker 1: the repair on something like it, and you'll be that 650 00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:01,879 Speaker 1: much better prepared till the next time. I'm ronan ading 651 00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:04,320 Speaker 1: in the car doctor reminding all of you the mechanics 652 00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:06,880 Speaker 1: aren't expensive, they're priceless. See you