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Speaker 1: Good morning.

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Speaker 2: I'm Brian Curtiz and I'm Doug Krisner. Here are the

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Speaker 2: stories we're following today.

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Speaker 1: Higher bond yields affecting markets generally right around the globe.

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Speaker 1: We had also the US government reporting producer prices rising

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Speaker 1: more than expected in July. Service costs were up the

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Speaker 1: most in nearly a year. The benchmark tenure yield, the

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Speaker 1: baseline for the broader financial system, has been pushing back

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Speaker 1: toward last year's highs of about four and a quarter percent.

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Speaker 1: As mentioned, we're at four point fifteen as we get

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Speaker 1: started this week. The former bond king Bill Gross says,

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Speaker 1: the yield on the tenure is headed higher.

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Speaker 3: You know, if you had one hundred and thirty five

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Speaker 3: basis points to two and a half or even three

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Speaker 3: where we are now. And that suggests that all of

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Speaker 3: the bulls on treasuries, on the tenure and maybe even

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Speaker 3: on the long run, I think their arguments are a

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Speaker 3: little misplaced.

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Speaker 1: In the coming week, markets who will be analyzing minutes

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Speaker 1: from the Fed's July I'm meeting for clues on where

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Speaker 1: rates might be headed. In the following week, the focus

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Speaker 1: will shift to the fed's annual gathering of global Central

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Speaker 1: bankers in Jackson Hole, Wyoming.

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Speaker 2: Well, some of the biggest US retailers are about to

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Speaker 2: grab the earning spotlight in the week ahead. We'll hear

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Speaker 2: from Walmart, along with Home Depot and Target. They are

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Speaker 2: all scheduled to report quartal results. One question is on

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Speaker 2: how middle income American consumers will have responded to higher prices.

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Speaker 2: Here's Joe Feldman, senior analyst at Telsey Advisory.

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Speaker 4: Middle is kind of squeezed right now, and that's where

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Speaker 4: we're seeing that middle has been trading down, That aspirational

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Speaker 4: customer has traded down a little, and middle has traded down.

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Speaker 4: So I think that still positions Target and Walmart pretty well.

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Speaker 2: That is Joe Feldman speaking on the Bloomberg Surveillance podcast.

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Speaker 2: By the way, last quarters, some retailers like Target and

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Speaker 2: Macy's were very cautious, but now with recession calls fading.

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Speaker 2: Here's one analyst, Andrea and Yee over at Barclay. She

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Speaker 2: is forecasting the US retail shares will outperform next year.

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Speaker 2: Ran well.

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Speaker 1: US Steel is exploring multiple offers now as it rejects

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Speaker 1: a buyout offer from its rival Cleveland Cliffs. Let's get

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Speaker 1: the story from Bloomberg's Denise Pellegreeni.

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Speaker 5: Manufacturer Cleveland Cliffs offering to buy the iconic Pittsburgh based

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Speaker 5: steelmaker and a cash and stock deal as it looks

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Speaker 5: to create one of the world's largest steel makers. Cleveland

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Speaker 5: Cliffs offering to pay seventeen dollars fifty cents a share

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Speaker 5: per share as of Friday's clothes, and that would be

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Speaker 5: a forty three percent premium to US Steel's last closing

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Speaker 5: price of twenty two seventy two. But US Steel calls

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Speaker 5: Cleveland Cliffs offer unreasonable. Earlier in the day, US Steel

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Speaker 5: senator received multiple offers for all are part of the

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Speaker 5: company and was initiating a strategic review. Denise Pellegreni Bloomberg

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Speaker 5: Day Break Asia.

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Speaker 1: And again, as Denise mentioned there, Cleveland Lifts was flat

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Speaker 2: We go to China next, where the government is issuing

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Speaker 2: a plan to attract more foreign investment. The story from

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Speaker 2: Bloomberg's Juan Wong in Hong Kong.

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Speaker 6: China State Council is encouraging foreign companies to set up

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Speaker 6: research and development centers here. The plan will help accelerate

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Speaker 6: work on foreign projects in the biofarm and telecom sectors.

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Speaker 6: Will also increase fiscal and tax support for foreign businesses.

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Speaker 6: The goal is to improve the business environment as China

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Speaker 6: seeks to bolster ris economy. So far, the economy has

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Speaker 6: shown few signs of a rebound. New stress and the

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Speaker 6: property market and deflation are threatening the growth outlook in

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Speaker 6: Hong Kong. Join Wong Bloomberg Day, Brick Asia and with

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Speaker 6: more on properties.

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Speaker 1: Chinese developer Country Garden says it will suspend trading in

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Speaker 1: nearly a dozen onshore bonds. Six yuan denominated corporate bonds

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Speaker 1: bondholders on various repayment options. The company's shares fell another

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Speaker 1: China loan data that came out late Friday was shockingly low,

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Speaker 1: that both both businesses and households are de leveraging there.

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Speaker 1: We'll keep a close eye on trust funds today and

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Speaker 1: trust products. A lot of rumors circulating on Friday. I

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Speaker 2: It's interesting with the weakness that we're seeing in China's economy.

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Speaker 2: Even so, Bloomberg Economics is expecting the PBOC to hold

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Speaker 2: its one year medium term lending facility rate steady this week.

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Speaker 2: That's a two sixty five This would mark the second

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Speaker 2: month of what Bloomberg Economics is essentially calling a tactical pause.

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Speaker 2: We did have that ten basis point rate cut back

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Speaker 2: in June, and I think Bloomberg Economics would agree with

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Speaker 2: what you're saying, Brian, that the economy clearly needs a

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Speaker 1: It's such a cautious, piecemeal approach. It's just really surprising.

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Speaker 1: People are looking for something dramatic, something that's in the

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I wanted to mention Neil Ferguson as well. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if you saw his pride, but he's not a

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Speaker 1: kid anymore, doesn't believe in Santa Claus, the tooth Fairy

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Speaker 1: and soft landings. I thought it was great. He said

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Speaker 1: if pilots had the same success rate as the Fed,

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Speaker 1: none of us would fly. And he gets Humpty Dumpty

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Speaker 1: and Goldilocks and Ulysses in there as well. I guess

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Speaker 1: you know, he's maybe not so far away from what

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Speaker 1: Bill Gross is saying, and that he sees too hot

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Speaker 5: Up from here.

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Speaker 2: On the other side, I want to point out what

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Speaker 1: And there was an interesting piece that Neil put in there.

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Speaker 1: I didn't see this in the Wall Street Journal, but

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Speaker 1: I know you really read the newspaper, so you might

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Speaker 1: have seen this from James Macintosh that if the US

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Speaker 1: measured inflation the way Europe does, then inflation and core

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Speaker 2: It's a good point.

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Speaker 1: Right now, it's time for Global news. The Maui wildfire

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Speaker 1: is now the deadliest in the US in one hundred

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Speaker 1: five years. At Baxter as Global News from the nine

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Speaker 7: D Yeah, that's right, Brian. The death troll now stands

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Speaker 7: at ninety three for the fires. But my police chief,

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Speaker 7: John Pelletier says the search and recovery efforts are at

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Speaker 7: a very early stage.

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Speaker 8: We're going as fast as we can, but just so

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Speaker 8: you know. Three percent, that's what's been searched with the dogs.

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Speaker 8: Three percent. We got twelve more dogs on the way today.

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Speaker 8: We just made that. I made that request, FEMA made

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Speaker 8: that happen. They're on their way. But think about how

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Speaker 7: But tongress Jill Takuda on CBS has heard here on Bloomberg,

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Speaker 7: so she understands people want to get back into the

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Speaker 7: but that it's too dangerous and that the sanctity of

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Speaker 7: the people who didn't make it out must be observed.

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Speaker 7: She did, though, visit Lihinatown herself, to.

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Speaker 9: Still see fires smoldering in the distance, to see cars

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Speaker 9: literally melted into the puddles that have hardened over on

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Speaker 7: Meanwhile, Governor Josh Green says the state will investigate why

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Speaker 7: the emergency siren systems were not activated and whether life

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Speaker 10: We have doubts that much could have been done with

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Speaker 10: a fiery, fast moving fire like.

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Speaker 7: That, but he says that it's caused by climate change

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Speaker 7: and hurricane passing through producing winds now. One thing he

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Speaker 10: We will, through whatever emergency powers we have to use,

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Speaker 7: Now four days on, still remains unclear the cause, although

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Speaker 7: least one of them. China's Foreign ministries criticized Taiwan's Vice

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Speaker 7: where Donald Trump may face his fourth criminal indictment this week,

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Speaker 7: oh at the Georgia Secretary of State's Office. Gabriel Sterling

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Speaker 7: today on ABC Has Heard on Bloomberg said that Trump

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Speaker 11: We've been saying this over and over again. We counted

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Speaker 11: the ballots three times. He lost this state, and he

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Speaker 7: Which Sterling says could lead to violence.

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Speaker 11: Somebody will be motivated by some of this kind of

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Speaker 7: And the Grand Jury is due to meet on Tuesday,

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Speaker 7: and oh no, no, it looks as if the Musksuck

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Speaker 7: cage fight is not going to happen. Mark Zuckerberg says

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Speaker 7: if Elon ever gets serious about a real date and

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Speaker 1: This is Bloomberg Daybreak Asia. I'm Brian Curtis along with

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Speaker 1: Vonnie Quinn in New York, and a guest is Walter Todd,

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Speaker 1: President and Chief investment Officer and managing director at Greenwood Capital. Walter,

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Speaker 1: So we can talk about higher yields, and we can

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Speaker 1: talk about possible soft landings and such. I wanted to

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Speaker 1: point out that we've now seen Nvidia, Broadcom, Microsoft and

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Speaker 1: Apple all selling down now about ten to thirteen percent.

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Speaker 1: I'm curious from your point of view whether that's reality

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Speaker 12: it's probably a little bit of each of those things.

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Speaker 12: And I think the super micro computer SMCI last week

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Speaker 12: could be a potential playbook for Nvidia. You really good earnings,

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Speaker 12: but yet the stock was down twenty five percent. Not

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Speaker 12: you get my point. So I think there is some

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Speaker 12: You've seen it a little bit in healthcare, although not

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Speaker 12: some more of that as we work through the fall, Walter.

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Speaker 11: We have been seeing breath improved just a little bit

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Speaker 6: Does that give you any hope that maybe we are

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Speaker 12: Yeah, it is, you know, encouraging to see more than

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Speaker 12: more than seven days participating, for sure, But you're still

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Speaker 12: you still see a pretty you know, dramatic spread between

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Speaker 12: I think, you know, if you look at the past year,

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Speaker 12: we've had two kind of eight to nine percent corrections,

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Speaker 12: necessarily to have a eight to nine percent. We're down

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Speaker 12: the SMP.

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Speaker 1: So we have still a lot of bears around, although

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Speaker 1: many have capitulated. But in the bear camp you have

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Speaker 1: they've already done too much, and you know you've got

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Speaker 1: recession coming and there's really no way to avoid it.

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Speaker 1: How do you actually see the full picture at the moment.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, it's very complicated, honestly. Right now, I keep going

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Speaker 12: back to this Mark Twain quote, is it ain't what

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Speaker 12: you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what

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Speaker 12: you know for sure that just ain't so. And that

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Speaker 12: feels like that captures the moment right now. So I

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Speaker 12: do think it's going to be tough to get inflation

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Speaker 12: I think they're going to continue to raise race and

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Speaker 12: I do think that would be a mistake. Right now, I.

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Speaker 1: Got a question. I hate to cut you off, and

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Speaker 1: I got a question and we got a sneak itting,

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Speaker 1: which is, I'm a little bit confused because we hear

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Speaker 1: you know, and you just mentioned that by some sort

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Speaker 12: No, I agree, that's what makes it so complicated. I mean,

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Speaker 12: that's what everyone knows for sure. I mean myself in

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Speaker 12: in the past, and they're not working at this point.

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Speaker 12: I think a lot of that has to do with

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Speaker 12: think it's just making a very confusing picture right now.

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