1 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 1: Welcome to Unexplained Extra with me Richard McClain smith. For 2 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:18,599 Speaker 1: the weeks in between episodes, we look at the stories that, 3 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:21,120 Speaker 1: for one reason or other, didn't make it into the show. 4 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 1: In last week's episode, Time Out of Joint, we looked 5 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 1: at two instances of a supposed time slip. In both stories, 6 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:34,879 Speaker 1: we find ourselves questioning the validity of someone's belief that 7 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 1: they unwittingly stepped back into the past. But what instead, 8 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 1: if we were on the other side and it was 9 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 1: us witnessing them arriving miraculously from the future, how could 10 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 1: we possibly believe them? Fans of the recent TV show 11 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 1: The OA may be familiar with the film's Sound of 12 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 1: My Voice, also written by The OA creators Britt Marling 13 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 1: and Zal Batman Man Gleage, the film is a mesmerizing 14 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 1: portrayal of an alleged time traveler and the lengths it 15 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 1: requires going to in order to convince others of her veracity. 16 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:13,400 Speaker 1: What is perhaps most remarkable about the film, however, is 17 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 1: the likelihood that it was in fact inspired by true events. 18 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:26,399 Speaker 1: The story begins on July twenty ninth, nineteen ninety eight, 19 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:29,680 Speaker 1: with the facts read out live on air by broadcaster 20 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:34,759 Speaker 1: Art Bell on his show Coast to Coast Am Dear Art, 21 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:37,680 Speaker 1: It read, I had to facts when I heard other 22 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 1: time travelers calling in from any time past the year 23 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 1: twenty five hundred a d Please let me explain. Time 24 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 1: travel was invented in twenty thirty four. Offshoots of certain 25 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 1: successful fusion reactor research allowed scientists at CERN to produce 26 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 1: the world's first contained singularity engine. Unfortunately, it was also 27 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 1: discovered that anyone going forward in time from my twenty 28 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 1: thirty six hit a brick wall in the year twenty 29 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 1: five sixty four. Everyone who has ever been there has 30 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 1: reported that nothing exists. When the machine is turned off, 31 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 1: you find yourself surrounded by blackness and silence. Now, most 32 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 1: time travelers are trying to find out where the line 33 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:27,519 Speaker 1: went bad by going into the past, creating a new universe, 34 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 1: and proceeding forward to see if the same thing results 35 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 1: in twenty five sixty four. It appears the line went 36 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 1: bad around the year two thousand. I'm here now in 37 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 1: this time to test a few theories of mine before 38 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 1: going forward. The Facts goes on to list a number 39 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 1: of dystopian disasters that were set to before the planet 40 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 1: as a result of the Millennium bug. Of course, despite 41 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:57,079 Speaker 1: some hysterical concerns at the time, the millennium bug never 42 00:02:57,120 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 1: truly bit. The name of the facts sender was not disclosed, 43 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 1: and like the Millennium Bug, the incident was destined to 44 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 1: fizzle out, consigned to the dustbin of post apocalyptic paranoia. 45 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:15,640 Speaker 1: That was until two years later, on October the fourteenth, 46 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 1: two thousand, when a new contributor popped up on Internet 47 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:22,800 Speaker 1: relay chat and joined a conversation with a user named 48 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 1: Yaresa and another named g Degrees. The new entrant called 49 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 1: themselves time travel Underscore zero Greetings. They wrote, my name 50 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 1: is John, I'm thirty eight, and I'm a time traveler 51 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 1: from Florida. The other users were understandably intrigued, if not 52 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 1: wholly convinced. In the ensuing conversation, John proceeded to outline 53 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 1: his story, which contained a number of similar elements to 54 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 1: that of the original facts read out by art Bell, 55 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 1: such as the fact that he had also traveled back 56 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 1: from the year twenty thirty six. It seemed to suggest 57 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 1: that both the mystery poster and the author of the 58 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 1: facts were the same person, only this time they had 59 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 1: a few more details to share. 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A 76 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:27,840 Speaker 1: major breakthrough happens at CERN in about a year, he says, 77 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:31,040 Speaker 1: but there has been some controversy over the damages of it. 78 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:34,839 Speaker 1: Some are concerned that it may be quite hazardous. Is 79 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 1: antimatter involved? Asks G Degrees. No, says John. Wasn't there 80 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:44,920 Speaker 1: something about creating a black hole? Says Euresa. Yes, says John, 81 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 1: you've heard of it. It's a black hole about the 82 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:51,599 Speaker 1: size of an electron. John goes on to explain that 83 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 1: he is visiting the year two thousand as part of 84 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:56,920 Speaker 1: a promise made to his grandfather in nineteen seventy five, 85 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:00,719 Speaker 1: a sort of scenic route, before returning to the year 86 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 1: twenty thirty six. Why would you do that, they ask? 87 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 1: I was sent back to nineteen seventy five to get 88 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 1: a computer, says John. It's an IBM model fifty one ten. 89 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 1: We need it in twenty thirty six to recode Unix, 90 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:20,159 Speaker 1: which dies in twenty thirty eight. Who needed a fifty 91 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 1: one ten? You lost me there, says G Degrees. The 92 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:26,840 Speaker 1: fifty one ten is able to read the old IBM 93 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 1: mainframe code. We need it in twenty thirty six. So 94 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 1: have you tried changing the past yet, says g Or 95 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 1: have you found that everything you do has already been done? Actually, 96 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 1: replies John. Our worldlines are not fixed, they are all different. 97 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 1: There is no one time. But you have a past, 98 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 1: says G. You remember things and if one changes, yes, 99 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 1: says John, but they are different. The fact I am 100 00:06:55,920 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 1: here changes this world line. In fact, I've noticed small changes, 101 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 1: incidental news, stories that haven't happened, books not written, small 102 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 1: stuff like that. Have you ever been in a room 103 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 1: that has mirrors on the walls, yes, says G. The 104 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 1: infinite worlds with infinite possibilities theory, yes, cries John. Multiple 105 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 1: world theory is correct. So who do you work for? 106 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 1: Asks G. The military, replies John, I'm a soldier, but 107 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 1: civilian travel is not far off. Wermkin underscore thirty seven 108 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 1: enters the room. I will tell you a little story, 109 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 1: continues John. When time travel was invented, they built prototypes 110 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 1: that would go back in time for a split second 111 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 1: and then return, but they never returned. It was later 112 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 1: discovered that the machines were ending up about fifteen miles 113 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 1: away and three thousand feet in the air. Isn't all 114 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 1: this classified? Said G. I know you think I'm nuts. 115 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 1: Who would believe me? That's why I love these chat rooms. 116 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 1: I know that nothing I say will make a bit 117 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 1: of difference. I'm not feeling sorry for myself I'm actually 118 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 1: learning to like the people here. You have a very 119 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 1: bad reputation in twenty thirty six, who me, says Wormkin? 120 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 1: In general, says John. This period is thought of as 121 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 1: the time when they had it all but squandered it. 122 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 1: But fun was had, jokes Wormkin. There is something you 123 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:32,560 Speaker 1: can tell me, says G. What happens in December two 124 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:37,719 Speaker 1: thousand and twelve? Anything nothing, says John. But there is 125 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 1: a nuclear war around two thousand and fifteen, Bugger, says G. 126 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 1: It's not that bad, says John. There's a civil war 127 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 1: in the US. Then Russia launches against China Europe and does. 128 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:56,680 Speaker 1: From my point of view, Russia helps us we win. 129 00:08:57,720 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 1: The civil war has two sides fought on one side 130 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:06,440 Speaker 1: the other side got nuked by Russia. Not North and 131 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:11,320 Speaker 1: South again? Was it? Asks G? No? More like city 132 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:16,679 Speaker 1: against country, says John. Well, it's been interesting talking to you, 133 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:20,440 Speaker 1: says G. But it's way past my bedtime. Look me 134 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:22,440 Speaker 1: up when you get back to twenty thirty six, will 135 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:27,440 Speaker 1: you if I'm still here, I will try it, says John. Well, 136 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 1: good night, then, good night. All elements have unexplained are 137 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:43,319 Speaker 1: produced by me. 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