1 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:06,520 Speaker 1: Welcome to Stupidity, home of the greatest media mind ever 2 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 1: to walk the planet. 3 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:11,040 Speaker 2: I tell you what, man, He's a literal titan across 4 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 2: the entire media landscape. 5 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:16,640 Speaker 3: Okay, shoot, here's a deal. He's a true icon in 6 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:21,080 Speaker 3: every sense of the word. He's loved and feared more 7 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 3: than any being. To Grace's planet, there. 8 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:28,160 Speaker 1: Got a bed with a voice that sounds like Verry White, 9 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 1: and be got to say, Hey, let's do it, baby. 10 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 1: God himself would pay thirty nine ninety nine for a cameo. 11 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 1: Fact of the matter is you are about to embark 12 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:43,839 Speaker 1: on a transcendent experience that can only be described as 13 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:45,199 Speaker 1: psychological nudity. 14 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 3: This is Stu Box and this is Stupidity. 15 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 2: Here we go, jim On, Welcome in to another episode 16 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 2: of Stupidity, the biggest podcast in the world. Thanks to you, 17 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 2: Please subscribe, rate and review unsubscribed, resubscribe, rerate, re review. 18 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:04,480 Speaker 2: By doing that, you have made us the biggest podcast 19 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:07,320 Speaker 2: in the world. We are presented by DraftKings. Mikey A 20 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 2: is off today. Billy gill is sitting in his seat. 21 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 2: He'll be joining us with Mike Golick Senior coming up 22 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:17,959 Speaker 2: here in just a minute. Mike Gologs Senior a good friend. 23 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 3: I miss him. 24 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 2: I love catching up with him, and we'll talk to 25 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 2: him coming up here about a bunch of stuff. What's 26 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 2: going on in the NFL, what's happening across the media landscape, 27 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:29,040 Speaker 2: and things that happened. 28 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:32,119 Speaker 3: At ESPN over the weekend. We'll we'll get. 29 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 2: Into a bunch of stuff with my good buddy Mike 30 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 2: Golick very much looking forward to that. I love the Golics. 31 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:40,120 Speaker 2: I am telling you, I love that family, the entire family. 32 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:42,199 Speaker 2: They make me happy. They put a smile on my face. 33 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:46,400 Speaker 2: I'm certain that I frustrate to no end. But anyway, 34 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 2: Mike Golodgs Senior in a minute, I am doing this 35 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 2: from Lake Tahoe in my hotel room by myself. I 36 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 2: feel very alone right now, but I won't because soon 37 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 2: I'll be headed out to that golf course. So I'm 38 00:01:57,240 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 2: gonna find Kelsey Mahomes, gonna have some fun with them, 39 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 2: try to find will see see what the show can 40 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 2: muster up over the next couple of days here. But 41 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:10,080 Speaker 2: I am taping this the morning after the Phoenix Suns. 42 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 2: Can one nothing series lead over the Bucks. I still 43 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:14,239 Speaker 2: think the Bucks are gonna win that series. A good 44 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 2: sign that Giannis was out there last night played pretty well. 45 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 2: Drew Hollida needs to be more consistent. I want to 46 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 2: just be clear here, because everyone is celebrating Chris Paul, 47 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 2: and he's played great, there's no question about it, okay, 48 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 2: But what are we celebrating exactly as it relates to 49 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 2: Chris Paul the fact that he was on teams, the 50 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:33,679 Speaker 2: number one guy on teams that were more than capable 51 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 2: of winning NBA titles and he couldn't even get them 52 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:37,080 Speaker 2: to the conference finals. 53 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 3: Hey, let's celebrate. 54 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:40,680 Speaker 2: Let's celebrate a guy who was the number one guy 55 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:43,359 Speaker 2: on teams coach by Doc Rivers with Blake Griffin in 56 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 2: his prime, who were more than capable of winning titles, 57 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 2: and he couldn't get to a conference final. 58 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 3: Hey, celebration. 59 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 2: What are we celebrating that he finally got on the 60 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 2: right team with the right coach and might win an 61 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 2: NBA championship. He had plenty of opportunities that he could 62 00:02:56,200 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 2: get it done. Enough enough, seriously, I'm not joking enough 63 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 2: so much. So let's get to Mike Golick. 64 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:07,640 Speaker 4: That's what I gotta get. You got these nice headphones? 65 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 4: They go right into the computer like an adapter. I 66 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 4: guess I'll go to get it up with the time. 67 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 3: You should, Mike. 68 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 2: Probably, yes, headsets that go into your computer. They're an 69 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 2: amazing thing. 70 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 5: I don't think I would argue that on you're actually 71 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 5: going in reverse the headsets that don't plug in, or like. 72 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 3: Right, yeah, you're right. Well, like the Bluetooth one, the 73 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:29,799 Speaker 3: wireless ones. 74 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:32,080 Speaker 4: You're saying, yeah, that's what he was trying to mean, 75 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 4: the Bluetooth one that I couldn't get work. 76 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 2: I can't, you know what, Mike, Let's just stay here 77 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:38,119 Speaker 2: because I can't get I was trying to use them. 78 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 2: I'm in Lake Tahoe. By the way, I know Mike 79 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 2: is insanely jealous of that. He wants to be here 80 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 2: with me. 81 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 3: I want Mike to be here with me, to be 82 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 3: honest with you. The Cody flight is delayed. 83 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 2: I mean, there's no telling what Grigg's gonna get here, 84 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 2: but technology, Mike, I tried to use the wireless headsets. 85 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 3: Now my wife claims she has pared them to my foe. 86 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 2: And yet when I went to use him yesterday, I 87 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 2: had no fucking clue what I was doing. And so 88 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 2: I'm with you I listen. I'm getting closer to fifty, 89 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 2: and I have no idea how to use any of 90 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 2: this shit. 91 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 4: Sometimes it works perfectly for me, Like I have a 92 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 4: pair of headphones that attach to my iPad when I 93 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 4: go on the plane, and they sync up perfectly. In fact, 94 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 4: I should probably have tried those on this, but I've 95 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:24,480 Speaker 4: always had these earbuds, and sometimes they work, sometimes they don't. 96 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:27,280 Speaker 4: My problem is I don't have the first school how 97 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 4: to fix it. I immediately call Chris or one of the 98 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 4: kids to do it, so that way I never learned nice. 99 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 4: So I'm just just like it the old man on 100 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:39,279 Speaker 4: the porch. Shit's not working. Some somebody coming help me. 101 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:39,840 Speaker 3: You know. 102 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 2: It's Billy's shaking his head, like Mikey is out. I 103 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 2: don't know where he is. Billy's shaking his head. Why 104 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 2: are you shaking your head? 105 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 5: Well, no, because I agree. I think there's a certain 106 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:52,479 Speaker 5: point where you just need to stop learning, right, Like 107 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 5: there's some information that do you really need, like moving forward, 108 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 5: Like when are you ever gonna need to know? I 109 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 5: guess besides stuff like this how to connect Bluetooth headphones, 110 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 5: whatever knowledge you've accumulated all over all these years I 111 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:07,359 Speaker 5: feel like it's enough, like I could stop learning at 112 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:07,920 Speaker 5: a certain point. 113 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:11,360 Speaker 4: So to that point, the you know, this turns out 114 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 4: to be sometimes a younger generation, older generation and with 115 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:19,040 Speaker 4: modern technology. So modern technology when you pay now, you 116 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 4: ei to use a credit card, which is very easy 117 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 4: for kids to do behind the cash register. Well, I 118 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:26,839 Speaker 4: went to I forgot where I went a couple of 119 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 4: weeks ago, and it was a young kid behind the 120 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 4: register and the register was down, couldn't take credit cards. 121 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:35,359 Speaker 4: All it could do is take cash. And all you 122 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:38,360 Speaker 4: could do is open the register. And you know how 123 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:41,679 Speaker 4: nowadays it will if it's two dollars and twenty seven 124 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:43,479 Speaker 4: cents and you give them three dollars, it will tell 125 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 4: you on the screen what the change is. Well, everything 126 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 4: was down, so that person literally had to figure it out. 127 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:53,920 Speaker 4: And I kid you not, guys, I kid you not. 128 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 4: You could see the smoke coming out of this probably 129 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 4: twenty four year old's ears when I gave him like 130 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:03,360 Speaker 4: six bucks for something that was like five twenty eight. 131 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:06,159 Speaker 4: And they were just trying to do it in their head, 132 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 4: and I knew they were, and I was just watching, 133 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 4: just watching them, just watching them. Finally I was like 134 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 4: seventy two cents. I'm like, come on, I mean basic 135 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 4: math the kids can't do because they're so reliant on 136 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:22,279 Speaker 4: the computer or the calculated. 137 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:22,600 Speaker 3: I'm glad you. 138 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 2: I'm glad you said it was seventy two cents. 139 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 4: I listened. As I've always said for twenty three years 140 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:33,360 Speaker 4: of doing radio and TV, I am great at simple math. 141 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:38,919 Speaker 4: I was the best guy flashcard person at my grade school, 142 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:41,360 Speaker 4: and I'd always get paired up against the best girl 143 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:44,159 Speaker 4: flashcard person, and she'd always beat me. Debbie Coffin was 144 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 4: her name. We actually tried to find her one year 145 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:49,039 Speaker 4: to bring her on air and have another contest, but 146 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 4: I was always a split second behind her. But I 147 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 4: would always beat everybody else. I could multiply, I could add, 148 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:57,599 Speaker 4: I could subtract very easily in my head, but I 149 00:06:57,640 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 4: just couldn't beat her. 150 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 5: Math is a perfect example of things that you only 151 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 5: need to know certain a certain amount, right, like addition, subtraction, multiplication, division. Now, 152 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 5: once we start getting to like geometry, long division, trigonometry, 153 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 5: that's all stuff I don't need to know. Like if 154 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 5: I'm not going to be like an architect or something, 155 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:17,679 Speaker 5: just give me simple math and I'm good. The rest 156 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 5: of my life. 157 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 2: I agree listen, I agree with you. I agree with 158 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 2: both of you. It's a philosophy that I have followed 159 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 2: my entire life. I mean, less is more. But but Billy, 160 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 2: I want to get flash guards because I think I 161 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 2: would dust go like it flash. 162 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 3: What do you mean? 163 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 4: No chance? 164 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 3: No chance? 165 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 4: That was my that was my that was my jam man. 166 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 3: I could do it. 167 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 2: I was waiting, like you think you own the domain 168 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 2: of basic quick math, Like that's your domain. 169 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 3: You own it. 170 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 2: No one could beat you. Billy's getting flash guards. I 171 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 2: know Billy's got flash cards. He's got him somewhere. 172 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 4: I don't have to beat every everybody you know who. 173 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 4: I just need to beat you. It's like if in 174 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 4: the woods in a barricake, I don't need to be 175 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 4: faster than the bear. I just need to be faster 176 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 4: than you, like Price Scambo out there checking out the 177 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 4: woods looking for a drive for they're a bear out there. No, 178 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 4: I just have to be better than you. 179 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 2: And I think Billy right now, with a big smile 180 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 2: on his face, is putting together some flash cards. 181 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 3: I'm gonna dust you, goalie. I can't wait. 182 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 2: By the way, I've never seen this background before that 183 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 2: you have going on. 184 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 3: Is this a new house? Is this they do? It's 185 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 3: very nice. 186 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 4: By the way, this is all new to me since 187 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 4: I stopped at ESPN again January second, was my last 188 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 4: gig there, doing the Fiesta Bowl, and so there was 189 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:33,960 Speaker 4: no need to have the house in Connecticut. God knows, 190 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 4: I lived, you know, by Mike all my life. I 191 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:39,320 Speaker 4: need to get the hell away from him from So 192 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:42,079 Speaker 4: we had the house here at Notre Dame, and then 193 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:44,320 Speaker 4: the house out in Scottsdale. So we sold the house 194 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 4: in Connecticut and finally brought a lot of stuff here. 195 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 4: This is the first time I've been in this house 196 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 4: an extended period of time. There was always a little 197 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:53,440 Speaker 4: bit here, a little bit in Scottsdale that I had 198 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:55,680 Speaker 4: to be in Connecticut, you know, for the radio and 199 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 4: TV show and stuff. So yeah, this is this is 200 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 4: the first I'm in an office with X stuff on 201 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 4: the shelf that I didn't put any of it up there. 202 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:06,439 Speaker 3: Mike. I was listening to an interview you did. 203 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:09,320 Speaker 2: I think it was Richard Ditsch where you said at 204 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 2: the very end ESPN thought you had no value, which 205 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:17,680 Speaker 2: I found astonishing. I'd like you to elaborate on that. 206 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:20,199 Speaker 2: If you don't mind. I found that to be astonishing 207 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 2: from this standpoint. Mike, You're a fucking Hall of Famer. 208 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 2: You're in the Radio Hall of Fame. You hosted one 209 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 2: of the biggest shows in the history of sports maybe 210 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 2: the biggest show in the history of sports radio. How 211 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:36,839 Speaker 2: does someone deem after all of that, after all those accomplishments, 212 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:39,080 Speaker 2: and you still wanted to do it, and your son 213 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 2: being there, how does someone deem that you no longer 214 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 2: have value? That doesn't make sense to me. 215 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 4: You know, when Richard asked me that question, I said, 216 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 4: the people that ask would be the two people I 217 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:51,720 Speaker 4: deal with the most of ESPN. Asked those guys, you 218 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:54,319 Speaker 4: know why all of a sudden there was no value 219 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:56,840 Speaker 4: in My equation has always been like I do with 220 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 4: a lot of things the sports world, and this was 221 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:02,959 Speaker 4: my foot I was cut twice in the NFL in 222 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 4: my nine years. I was cut from the Houston Oilers 223 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 4: and then I was cut from the Miami Dolphins. And basically, 224 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 4: when a team cuts you, you know, you correct me 225 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 4: if I'm wrong. They don't don't see your worth to 226 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 4: the team anymore, you know, I mean for Houston, and 227 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 4: Houston never tried to go a lower number, and my 228 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:23,680 Speaker 4: number back in ninety three with the Miami was seven 229 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:27,080 Speaker 4: hundred and fifty thousand. They could have gone lower, you know, 230 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 4: and tried, but they didn't, So to them, I had 231 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 4: no more value to them, not even to offer me 232 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 4: a lower amount. And I disagreed with both of those. 233 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:38,320 Speaker 4: But doesn't matter if I disagree. You know, when you're 234 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:41,440 Speaker 4: walking into the GM office, in Don Shula's office and 235 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:42,960 Speaker 4: they say you're gone, ain't a whole hell of a 236 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 4: lot you can do about it. So they when they 237 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 4: told me that at ESPN, and there was never a 238 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:53,319 Speaker 4: convert I knew what I made was high. It had 239 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 4: come down from Mike and Mike, but I knew if 240 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:56,680 Speaker 4: I was going to stay there, I'd probably have to 241 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 4: do it again. Everybody was taking pay cuts, but they 242 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:02,680 Speaker 4: never offered a pay cut. And then when I was 243 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:05,960 Speaker 4: just you know, in the last couple of months, you know, 244 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 4: they were one of the people we were talking to 245 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:09,839 Speaker 4: for me to do college football, and they basically just 246 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 4: said no and never even never even gave a number, 247 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 4: never even said, well, we can only pay you x, 248 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:19,599 Speaker 4: you know, and and let me decide. So to me, 249 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 4: that means I stopped having worth to them in any way, 250 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:28,560 Speaker 4: whether it on radio, radio and TV or calling college games. 251 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 4: And you know, whether they're in a money crunch or not, 252 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:34,200 Speaker 4: you know there they re signed people and they cut 253 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 4: people's pay that they're doing it all the time. But 254 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 4: that was the odd thing to me to do, is 255 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:40,200 Speaker 4: they've been there so long and not even say, hey, 256 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:41,959 Speaker 4: we can't pay you what we paid you, would you 257 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:43,960 Speaker 4: do it, you know, for this? And there were some 258 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 4: people out there saying, well, maybe ESPN did that because 259 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 4: they didn't want to make it look really bad like 260 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 4: they were trying to lowball me. And I said, okay, 261 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 4: if that's what you want to think, you know, that's fine. 262 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:57,160 Speaker 4: But to not even have a discussion, to just say 263 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 4: that was that was And as I said in that 264 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:03,560 Speaker 4: interview as well, listen, we all have egos, and shit 265 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:04,959 Speaker 4: that that was a blow to the ego. 266 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 2: You know, you're Mike, Mike, you know this business well 267 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 2: enough to know that, like Michael, go on your network, 268 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:12,319 Speaker 2: you could build ten million dollars with your eyes. 269 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 3: Closed, like you know that, Mike, So you do have value, yeah, 270 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:17,320 Speaker 3: but to them, I didn't. 271 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 4: So I mean, and and I wish I knew the answer, 272 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 4: But that's that's for ESPN to answer. And I think 273 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 4: the weirdest thing, and I said to Sir Richard as well, 274 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:29,439 Speaker 4: is when I when I literally asked the question, why 275 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 4: are you replacing me on the morning show? 276 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:34,840 Speaker 3: And the first answer. 277 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 4: Was, we don't have to tell you. Okay, I mean 278 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:43,080 Speaker 4: that's true, you don't. But I mean, how about just 279 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:45,840 Speaker 4: an ounce of professionalism. You know, I guess the ounce 280 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 4: of professionalism would have come if they called and let 281 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 4: they know what was going on, but you know that 282 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 4: didn't happen. So yeah, it's kind of been well documented. 283 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:55,320 Speaker 4: It wasn't the best ending in the world. But to 284 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 4: finish off where this started, that's how I equated it too. 285 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 4: You know, when two teams cut me in all though 286 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 4: I didn't have any value, it's the same thing ESPN 287 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 4: must have felt. That's the only thing I can assume 288 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 4: that I didn't have enough value or any value to 289 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:08,959 Speaker 4: them to come. 290 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 2: Well, just to be clear, And I'll get off of 291 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:12,719 Speaker 2: this at a second, and it might lead to what's 292 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 2: going on currently at ESPN, which is all over the news. 293 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:17,440 Speaker 2: You were willing to take less, you were willing to 294 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:19,319 Speaker 2: take because Mike, at this point in your career. You 295 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:22,199 Speaker 2: have made enough money for you were just like, hey, 296 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:24,080 Speaker 2: I love to do this thing. I want to continue 297 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 2: to do it. 298 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 4: Right, Yes, I mean my agent, A Lou Oppenheim, had 299 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 4: told me when this was ending. He said, listen, you 300 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 4: can walk away and do nothing anymore. You can jump 301 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 4: back in a little bit, or you can jump back 302 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:38,680 Speaker 4: in a lot. You put yourself in a good position here. 303 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 4: So yeah, I knew I would have to take less. 304 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 4: It would just be decided if that was still enough 305 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 4: for me to want to do it. And the amazing 306 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:48,560 Speaker 4: thing was is July when the radio show ended, I 307 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 4: had six more months under contract and they were just 308 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:53,320 Speaker 4: going to let me sit there and collect the pay. 309 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 4: And I'm like, no, no, no, let me go do college 310 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 4: football again. I love sure, let me do that again. 311 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 4: So they were like, sure, go ahead. So I thought 312 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 4: of nothing else. If they didn't want me back on 313 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:06,440 Speaker 4: the radio, maybe they'd keep me around to do college football. 314 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:10,320 Speaker 4: And like I said, that didn't work either, So you know, 315 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:13,319 Speaker 4: I you know, but as I said, I've talked about 316 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 4: it a couple of times, but you know, I'm certainly 317 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 4: not crying about it. So as I said, when when 318 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 4: I got cut from Houston, you move on, you go 319 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 4: to Philly. You know, when you start playing, you don't 320 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 4: look back. When I got cut from Miami, now that 321 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 4: happened to be the end of my career, which again, 322 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 4: for people to know, most careers in pro sports, or 323 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 4: at least in my sport, in the NFL and the 324 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 4: way my ended. So when they say when did you retire, Mike, 325 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 4: my answer is, well, the league retired me in nineteen 326 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 4: ninety I've never really retired. Oh yeah, I wanted to 327 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 4: play it. I wanted to play, but nobody called me 328 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 4: to play, So I was retired. Much different than guys 329 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 4: you know who you see say, oh, this is my 330 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 4: last year. I'm choosing to walk away from the game. 331 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 4: I would have loved to have that choice, But the 332 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 4: majority of careers, and like mine, ended where they basically ended. 333 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 3: For you. 334 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 2: You and I were kind of laughing yesterday talking on 335 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 2: the phone that more people, especially in the younger demographic, 336 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 2: more people know you as a radio host and. 337 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 3: A football player. I think that drives you fucking insane, Mike. 338 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 4: They do, and even crazier than that, stew Is when 339 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 4: they say, would you rather be remembered more as a 340 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 4: broadcaster or a football player. I'm like, you fucking kidney, 341 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 4: I said. And then my equation is, I have never 342 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 4: woken up in the middle of the night from a 343 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 4: great dream, going, oh my god, what a great segment 344 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 4: that was with Stu. 345 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 6: You know, when I wake up from a great football team, 346 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 6: you know it's I stacked the quarterback, I caused a fumble, 347 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 6: I had an interception. That's a great dream, you know, 348 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 6: going to break and knowing that I had a great 349 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 6: segment I've never dreamt about. 350 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 4: So yeah, it's it's kind of a kind of a 351 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 4: weird situation. 352 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 3: I mean, seriously, you know what. 353 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 4: And while that's so cool that I'm in a couple 354 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 4: of different of those hall of fames, it is very 355 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 4: cool and I appreciate it, and it's a great honor. 356 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 4: If you asked me, would I rather be in the 357 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 4: Pro Football Hall of Fame, I mean, there's there's no comparison. 358 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 4: It's like I went into the National Wrestling Hall of Fame, 359 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 4: but not as a wrestler. They called me a great 360 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 4: American because over the years I wrestled in high school 361 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 4: and college and I'm a big proponent of wrestling, and 362 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 4: I talked about it a lot. So they put me 363 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 4: in the Hall of Fame there and I'm doing my 364 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 4: acceptance speech while all these like real wrestlers are getting 365 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 4: put in the Hall of Fame. I'm like, shit, I'd 366 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 4: love to be one of those guys. 367 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 5: Wait, how many? 368 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 3: It's amazing. He's in all the one Billy, the only 369 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 3: one he wants to be and he's not in. 370 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 4: Exactly the only one I want to be in. I 371 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 4: have to pay to get in. So there's a couple 372 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 4: of radio Hall of Fames. I'm in the wrestling Hall 373 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 4: of Fame and then my high school if you count that. 374 00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 3: Wait, you're not in the Notre Dame Hall of Fame. 375 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 4: You should be Listen. I was not in the Notre 376 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 4: Dame Hall of Fame. No, no, no, I was not 377 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:08,200 Speaker 4: that caliber. The best I ever did was honorable mention 378 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 4: all American. I mean from a football standpoint, I do 379 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 4: not belong in the Notre Dame. 380 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:16,240 Speaker 3: I would, I think, Billy would disagree. Your family. 381 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 2: When I think Notre Dame and I think families, I 382 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 2: think of the Goldic Family. 383 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:20,439 Speaker 3: I really do. 384 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:23,439 Speaker 4: There were For those that don't know, it was a 385 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:26,720 Speaker 4: nice legacy. My brother Bob went went there in seventy five. 386 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:29,199 Speaker 4: Then my brother Greg went there in eighty I was 387 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:32,920 Speaker 4: there in eighty one, and then my son Mike went 388 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:36,480 Speaker 4: there and Jake went there. Mike graduated in twelve, Jake 389 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:39,120 Speaker 4: and thirteen. They both played football. My daughter swam there 390 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 4: and graduated in sixteen. So yeah, we definitely definitely had 391 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 4: sent a few and my wife went to Saint Mary's. 392 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 4: Her sister went to Saint Mary's. So yeah, but that 393 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:51,640 Speaker 4: that doesn't put you in the Hall of Fame because 394 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 4: you had a lot of a lot of people in 395 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 4: the family go to the college. 396 00:17:57,040 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 3: Something. 397 00:17:57,800 --> 00:18:00,119 Speaker 5: It's a disgrace. When I think of Notre Dame, I 398 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 5: think of the Golics, and. 399 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:06,800 Speaker 3: You're let's let's start a campaign now. I tried to. 400 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:08,479 Speaker 3: I tried to get one off the ground with Biselli 401 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:10,399 Speaker 3: into the Hall of Fame. Let's get Golick into the 402 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 3: Notre Dame Hall of Fame. It's rightful places right. 403 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 4: Let me tell you what that would be fun to do, 404 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:18,120 Speaker 4: because it won't happen, and we can have fun along 405 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:21,160 Speaker 4: the way. Tony Boselli not being in the NFL Hall 406 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:23,639 Speaker 4: of Fame is ridiculous. That dude needs be in the 407 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:24,120 Speaker 4: Hall of Fame. 408 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 3: He was a bad man. We're gonna make that happen. Mike. 409 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:28,240 Speaker 3: I think we can get you into the Notre Dame 410 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:28,680 Speaker 3: Hall of Fame. 411 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 2: No, Billy, I'm gonna make that happen. Why are you 412 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:34,359 Speaker 2: laughing at me? We had Tony Kanna and studio. I 413 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:36,960 Speaker 2: asked for the Jaguars support and he gave it to me. 414 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:38,600 Speaker 2: Yet I still don't have his phone number. 415 00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:41,400 Speaker 4: They're gonna make me tell my house here at Notre 416 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:41,880 Speaker 4: Dame once. 417 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:45,959 Speaker 2: Wait, Mike, I'm telling you give me like, who's the person. 418 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 2: I'm certain you have kept inventory. Who's the person the 419 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:52,879 Speaker 2: football player specifically, if you don't mind, who's kind of 420 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 2: borderline Notre Dame Hall of Fame. Who's in the Hall 421 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 2: of fame? But in your mind it's kind of borderline. 422 00:18:57,359 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 4: You know, Sue, I'm not gonna lie. I don't know. 423 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:02,160 Speaker 4: I don't know if Notre Dame has a. 424 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 3: Hall of Fame. 425 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:06,240 Speaker 4: If I don't know who's in it. I mean, we 426 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 4: have a lot of football players in the college Football 427 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:11,200 Speaker 4: Hall of Fame, but I don't know if Notre Dame 428 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 4: has an actual Hall of Fame, and if so, I 429 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:16,359 Speaker 4: don't know who's in it. To be honest, with you. 430 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:19,719 Speaker 2: I don't know, so, Mike, this is this is an 431 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 2: amazing development here. Billy has ten math problems on flashcourd 432 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 2: that we will do at the end here, so. 433 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:29,160 Speaker 3: We'll build up to that. Billy always has flashcourts available. 434 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 4: So are these are these just the simple math? Is 435 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:35,640 Speaker 4: it plus minus times and division. 436 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 5: Or all right? We have two four? We have six 437 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:44,119 Speaker 5: multiple multiplication, two division, one edition and one subtraction for 438 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 5: later on a right, And I'm looking up to see 439 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 5: if Notre Dame has a Hall of Fame, because if 440 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:49,960 Speaker 5: that damn Rudy is in the Hall of Fame, it's. 441 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:55,159 Speaker 3: Just a wait, Mike, how well or is you going 442 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 3: to be a Rudy Rudikers at the Hall of Fame? 443 00:19:56,840 --> 00:20:05,680 Speaker 4: Seriously, that would be that would be something yeah, yeah, 444 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:06,440 Speaker 4: oh my god. 445 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 2: Allright, Mike, let's I want to stay with the ESPN 446 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:11,960 Speaker 2: two things. There were two big stories over the weekend. 447 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 2: One involved your son, Okay, so let's start with the 448 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:15,680 Speaker 2: lighter one. 449 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:17,920 Speaker 3: Okay, put me where you. 450 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 2: Were when Michael Junior is calling the Nathan's Hot Dog 451 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:24,439 Speaker 2: Eating contest and Joey Chestnut is about to break this 452 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:29,720 Speaker 2: record and technical difficulties and Michael and Jason. 453 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 3: Fitz are out there, Mike. 454 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 2: That ruined my weekend because Joey Jaws was on this 455 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 2: podcast last week. I wanted to see that happen, and 456 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:38,480 Speaker 2: I felt so bad for Gojo in that moment. 457 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:42,680 Speaker 4: One of the staples over the my years at ESPN 458 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 4: has been having eaters on, especially around Nathan's. You know, 459 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 4: we've had Crazy Legs Conte on, We've got Eater Actus, 460 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 4: We've had Joey chestnutt on more than a few times, 461 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:55,919 Speaker 4: Shay Brothers, who are fantastic. Obviously, I'm very involved in 462 00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 4: the eating and one of my big regrets from ES 463 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 4: had the fact that I never got to do the Nathan's. 464 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 4: I never got to be in Mike's shoes and call 465 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 4: the Nathan's hot Dog eating. So I'm happy to go 466 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 4: what got to do? And I've always wanted to do that. 467 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 4: But as it turns out, I don't want to get 468 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:17,440 Speaker 4: too technical because everybody asked, well, does Mike know and 469 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 4: do they know in the booth that this has happened? 470 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 4: And you got to understand in a booth that depends 471 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 4: on the monitors that you have there. This would be 472 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:28,720 Speaker 4: like if I'm calling a college game, what monitors you have, 473 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:32,119 Speaker 4: so Mike only had the feed from the truck, I 474 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 4: believe in his view, so he actually had no idea 475 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 4: that that happened, which is probably good because what happens 476 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:41,119 Speaker 4: is they cleaned it all up at the end and 477 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 4: for the re air. There was never an interruption because 478 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 4: people were saying, why didn't Mike say when they come back, 479 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 4: sorry for the technical difficulties. Well, there there was a 480 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:52,480 Speaker 4: decision made because they didn't know because of the type 481 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:55,480 Speaker 4: of monitor that was in their booth the truck, I 482 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 4: think rightfully, so the producer did not tell Mike that 483 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:00,879 Speaker 4: so they could get a clean feed for the re 484 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:03,439 Speaker 4: air and just let Mike and Shake keep calling the 485 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:06,679 Speaker 4: contest like it was going on. They had no idea 486 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 4: that it had gone out, so they were just doing 487 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:10,639 Speaker 4: it like it was still going on. But Stu, I 488 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:13,160 Speaker 4: was like you and millions of others. Me and Chris 489 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:16,480 Speaker 4: my wife were on the couch going, holy shit, No way, 490 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 4: that just happened. Right in the last three minutes, it 491 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:23,200 Speaker 4: goes out three times as he's trying to break the record. 492 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:25,960 Speaker 4: It could not have been worse timing. I felt bad 493 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:28,159 Speaker 4: for him, though, as I said, he didn't know, so 494 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 4: he just thought he was calling calling the mask Billy. 495 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 2: If we were doing a live show here, I'd asked 496 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:34,320 Speaker 2: you to put something on the poll. Should a go 497 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:37,159 Speaker 2: look always be hosting the Nathan's Hot Dog gating contests. 498 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 4: Always, somehow, some way we should be involved in that. Hell, 499 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:45,359 Speaker 4: I remember when you challenged me to the to the 500 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:49,720 Speaker 4: donut eating contest a little bit, yes, and I basically 501 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:50,359 Speaker 4: destroyed you. 502 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 3: Sorry, yeah you did. You're very good at. 503 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 5: That and stuck got's almosted by the way from that, 504 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 5: like it was this. I've never seen him so out 505 00:22:57,600 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 5: of it. I think the sugar rush got him or something. 506 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:01,439 Speaker 5: But he looked like he was going to pass off 507 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 5: for me. 508 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:03,960 Speaker 2: Don't but listen, we made up for it when you 509 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 2: had your hands on my ass, my hands in the dirt, baby, 510 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 2: That's why I had to bring construction blog. 511 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:12,920 Speaker 4: I'm still amazed at that that I had a bet 512 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 4: with Dan and Dan wasn't involved in the outcome of that. 513 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:19,360 Speaker 2: How could you, Mike, how could you possibly be amazed 514 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 2: by that after you've known us now for like ten years. 515 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:25,880 Speaker 4: So I had a bet with Dan. Dan wasn't involved 516 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 4: with the bet, and I ended up rubbing your ass. 517 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:31,160 Speaker 4: I mean that, in a nutshell is how it all went, 518 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:33,879 Speaker 4: and it is why I wore construction gloves so you 519 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:36,920 Speaker 4: know I I because if I didn't, that would have 520 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:37,720 Speaker 4: had to cut my hands. 521 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:40,520 Speaker 2: It was the Notre Dame Miami game. Miami blew him out. 522 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:43,159 Speaker 2: We all won there. I mean, I feel like we 523 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:43,600 Speaker 2: all won. 524 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:46,200 Speaker 3: I got a massage. You had your hands on my butt. 525 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 3: Lebotary didn't have to do it. 526 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:53,199 Speaker 4: No win. I didn't win. I'd rather be beaten with 527 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 4: a stick. That bill here saying. 528 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 3: There were no winners there. 529 00:23:57,640 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 5: There were no winners, not even the viewers, no one. 530 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 2: I got a nice massage out of it. Good your 531 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:07,280 Speaker 2: beautiful big hands, I. 532 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 4: Thought, I massage. Well, listen, if you're gonna massage, I 533 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 4: might as well massage. 534 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:11,400 Speaker 3: Oh my god? 535 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:13,160 Speaker 4: Is that kind of Is that one of the best 536 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:16,720 Speaker 4: payoffs you've ever gotten from a from a bet? 537 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:19,640 Speaker 3: It's the only bet? I well, technically did I win 538 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:21,639 Speaker 3: the bet. 539 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:24,399 Speaker 4: And won the bet and you were kind of the 540 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 4: in line to take. 541 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 3: I get it? Well, I guess. 542 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:32,880 Speaker 2: I guess it is the best payoff I've had from 543 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 2: winning outside of winning actual money. 544 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:37,120 Speaker 3: When I when I make a bet, what do you. 545 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:39,159 Speaker 2: Make of what's uh or what do you make of 546 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 2: what's going on over the weekend, and it's continuing into 547 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:45,880 Speaker 2: this week here with Maria Taylor and Rachel Nichols, who 548 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:48,240 Speaker 2: who listen, both have been in this podcast. I like 549 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:50,439 Speaker 2: both of them. I think they're both very talented. But 550 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:52,680 Speaker 2: there's plenty to kind of parse through here. 551 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:55,639 Speaker 4: So oh there is. I mean, you could see, you know, 552 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:58,879 Speaker 4: the sides of it where Rachel Nichols felt she was 553 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:01,480 Speaker 4: not given in a job that she thought she she 554 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:04,919 Speaker 4: should have gotten. There's Maria Taylor who felt, you know, 555 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 4: it had nothing to do with with a skin color 556 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:10,920 Speaker 4: or minority. I deserved that job and she does. 557 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 2: By the way, she's immensely talented, so she's right if 558 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 2: she feels that way. 559 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 4: They're both immensely talented. So from and and Rachel, and 560 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 4: from Rachel's side, one of the things I said, we've 561 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 4: all about something in our life, complained about something, right, 562 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 4: and you don't expect it to actually be recorded and 563 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:31,919 Speaker 4: then aired. And that was obviously a horrible thing to 564 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 4: have happened. But I would imagine in every anybody's life 565 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 4: something happened where they said something maybe you know about 566 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:42,440 Speaker 4: somebody else in a private moment. Imagine that becoming public. 567 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:45,240 Speaker 4: So she was mad that happened and gave her reason 568 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:47,199 Speaker 4: for why she thought it happened. Maria Taylor said, it 569 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 4: doesn't believe it was that reason, and I deserved that job. 570 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:54,359 Speaker 4: So so here's my problem, and there's been my problem 571 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 4: with a lot of things over time, whether it's at 572 00:25:56,760 --> 00:26:04,040 Speaker 4: ESPN or anywhere else. So it's communication. So communicate more. 573 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:06,639 Speaker 4: You know, you let this situation get bad, and I 574 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:09,439 Speaker 4: know Rachel at one point said she tried to text 575 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 4: Maria and Maria wasn't answering the text. Somebody higher up 576 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:16,480 Speaker 4: at ESPN needs to get involved and say, listen, you 577 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:19,119 Speaker 4: guys both work for this company. We're all going to 578 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 4: get in one room and we're going to talk about this. 579 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:25,919 Speaker 4: The lack of face to face meetings with people to 580 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:28,960 Speaker 4: talk about anything things that need to be talked about, 581 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:32,320 Speaker 4: to me is embarrassing. If you can't sit down face 582 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 4: to face and talk about something in this situation obviously 583 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 4: blew up, but it had been Here's where you look 584 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 4: at who's running the show. 585 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 3: This had been a year old. A year old. 586 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 4: Somebody in leadership needs to step in and say, okay, 587 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 4: that person's texting and you're not responding to the texas. No, 588 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 4: we're all getting in the same room and we're all 589 00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 4: going to hash this thing out, or we're all getting 590 00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 4: on zoom. If it's during COVID whatever, we're going to 591 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:03,800 Speaker 4: be looking at one another and talk about this. But 592 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 4: it doesn't happen, and then shit just festers because that 593 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 4: doesn't happen. I have said this from day one, and 594 00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:14,200 Speaker 4: I learned this from my parents, especially my father, Face 595 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 4: to face, man. You deal with people face to face, 596 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:20,760 Speaker 4: on the foot whatever, voice to voice. Again, if it's 597 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:24,160 Speaker 4: during COVID, you deal with them that way. That's how 598 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 4: you have the discussion. So that way, you say that 599 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:30,119 Speaker 4: thing right to that person, even if it's the aftermath, 600 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 4: aftermath and you're trying to clean everything up, get face 601 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:37,280 Speaker 4: to face somehow, some way. And like I said that, 602 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:39,920 Speaker 4: the one party wanted to the other didn't. And that's 603 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 4: fine if Maria didn't want to answer Rachel Backashu's man, 604 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:46,680 Speaker 4: I get it. But that's when leadership needs to take 605 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 4: charge and say we can't have YouTube fighting. We don't 606 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:54,200 Speaker 4: want that. Even though you guys disagree on this, we 607 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:57,560 Speaker 4: need to get together and talk about it and that 608 00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:01,400 Speaker 4: wasn't done. So now it festers, it comes out public, 609 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:05,280 Speaker 4: and man is it's just blown up in their faces. 610 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:08,400 Speaker 3: Mike, I would say leadership on the front end. 611 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:10,720 Speaker 2: You know what's going to happen, and you know which 612 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 2: positions you're giving certain people. Manage it, manage the expectations 613 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:17,159 Speaker 2: on the front end. So something like that, agreed, it 614 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:21,159 Speaker 2: doesn't happen. And I'll always say this about Rachel. She 615 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:24,720 Speaker 2: need in twenty twenty one, with all the electronics and 616 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:27,159 Speaker 2: all that, you got to know better. You just you 617 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 2: need to know better. And you also need to know 618 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:32,880 Speaker 2: Maria Taylor is insanely talented enough she does. Whether she's 619 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:35,000 Speaker 2: not getting a job because of the color of her skin, 620 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:35,439 Speaker 2: she's just not. 621 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 3: I'm not saying it doesn't happen elsewhere. 622 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 2: It's never happened there, right, But that's not the reason 623 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:40,960 Speaker 2: Maria Taylor is getting these jobs. 624 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 4: They're both good enough to have that job. With one 625 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:46,120 Speaker 4: hundred pound question and what you said, I was talking 626 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:49,440 Speaker 4: about communication after the fact. You're right, Yes, you're right, 627 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 4: jump in there and beginning and say, okay, we're gonna 628 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:55,960 Speaker 4: make this decision. It's probably gonna ruffle some feathers. So 629 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:59,600 Speaker 4: let's get ahead of it. And unfortunately there is no 630 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 4: no game being ahead of it, no getting in front 631 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 4: of it, then nothing to take care of it after 632 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:09,080 Speaker 4: something bad has happened. So and obviously it's Rachel and 633 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:11,040 Speaker 4: Maria's names who are out there are going to be 634 00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:14,000 Speaker 4: talked about. But man leadership has got to do a 635 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 4: better job of to your point before it all happens, 636 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,720 Speaker 4: and then certainly after it happens. And it doesn't seem 637 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:22,200 Speaker 4: like any of that was done at all. 638 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:24,760 Speaker 2: That ain't happen. And if Don shul was in charge 639 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:26,760 Speaker 2: of your organization right like, well. 640 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:30,280 Speaker 4: How about that? Or Bill Belichick? I mean, holy smokes. 641 00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 4: I mean you talk about stepping into something right away 642 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 4: and they have no problem meeting face to face. Don 643 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 4: had no problem meeting face to face and cutting me right. 644 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 2: That was an easy one for I'm sorry I took 645 00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:47,800 Speaker 2: it too far. We'll get to the math problems in 646 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 2: just a second. Your thoughts on the name, image and 647 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 2: likeness that the NCAA I would imagine, I don't know, 648 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:55,600 Speaker 2: this would be interesting. I know what I was playing 649 00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 2: college across, I would have painted myself like a NASCAR 650 00:29:58,080 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 2: and I know I have every intention of doing that. 651 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:02,120 Speaker 2: For my I think this is a great thing. But 652 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:03,920 Speaker 2: you're a bit old school, Mike. I'd be interested in 653 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:04,520 Speaker 2: your thoughts here. 654 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:07,680 Speaker 4: No, I think it's fantastic. And again, the NCAAA made 655 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 4: a complete message it because the NCAAA does an incredible 656 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:14,040 Speaker 4: job of saying, yeah, we're having meetings about it, we're 657 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:16,520 Speaker 4: talking about it, and I'm not just saying now your name, 658 00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:19,120 Speaker 4: any image of likeness, it's all other decisions. When they 659 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:21,920 Speaker 4: want to make a decision, they can make it quickly. 660 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:25,880 Speaker 4: Go back, go way back to was it a shabaz 661 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 4: napier from Yukon when all of a sudden he said 662 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 4: he's going to bed hungary? How quick did the NCAA 663 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:33,520 Speaker 4: jump in and all of a sudden there were all 664 00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:37,280 Speaker 4: the snacks scholarship athletes wanted, so they weren't going to 665 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 4: bed hungry. I mean that decision was made like that. 666 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:45,360 Speaker 4: But my god, they stretch out everything else colleges. NCAA 667 00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:49,320 Speaker 4: does not want nil and what they didn't know and 668 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:52,600 Speaker 4: they don't know, unfortunately a decent amount of things is 669 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:56,000 Speaker 4: at some point exactly what was going to happen happen. 670 00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 4: And that was the States we're going to jump in 671 00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:03,200 Speaker 4: because for politicians, this is a win win situation. Everybody 672 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:05,960 Speaker 4: is going to be for this, or the vast majority 673 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:07,920 Speaker 4: was always going to be for it. So they look 674 00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:10,400 Speaker 4: great in front of their constituents. They certainly look great 675 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:13,320 Speaker 4: in front of college athletes. And it was going to pass. 676 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:16,440 Speaker 4: And we saw on the Supreme Court nine zip. When 677 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:20,160 Speaker 4: does everybody agree on something like that? So what is it? 678 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 4: What does the NCAA do? Because it was coming up 679 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:25,480 Speaker 4: July first, when some of the states they say, okay, 680 00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:28,520 Speaker 4: nil is open. I mean, we don't even we don't 681 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:31,160 Speaker 4: there's some rules, but we don't even know the rules. 682 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:34,920 Speaker 4: So I would tell players ask for forgiveness, not for permission. 683 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:37,240 Speaker 4: Go out and find a way any way you can 684 00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:41,400 Speaker 4: until they get some better parameter. There are some parameters, 685 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:44,400 Speaker 4: but they need more parameters in place. Look at what 686 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:46,480 Speaker 4: the guy that you was doing, who started the MMA 687 00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:50,480 Speaker 4: schools down there paying every every scholarship athlete on the 688 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:53,400 Speaker 4: football team five hundred dollars a month. You can find 689 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:57,480 Speaker 4: a way now to funnel money to football players, basketball players, 690 00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:02,479 Speaker 4: hockey players, swimmers, across players. Whatever you want. You know, 691 00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:03,920 Speaker 4: you can find a way to do it. And you 692 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:05,720 Speaker 4: might as well find a way to do it until 693 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:08,640 Speaker 4: there are more rules, because there will be. But this 694 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:11,400 Speaker 4: is just another failure of the NCAA when this got 695 00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:14,440 Speaker 4: thrust upon them and they just basically open the flood 696 00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:16,880 Speaker 4: doors and say okay, and I aw you guys, go 697 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:19,080 Speaker 4: ahead and do it. And I can't wait. I mean, 698 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:23,280 Speaker 4: we're already seeing incredibly creative ways that people are doing 699 00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:26,400 Speaker 4: stuff and getting money, and that's only going to continue. 700 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:29,400 Speaker 4: And I know I'm old school. What I was always 701 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:35,560 Speaker 4: against you was schools paying players because when school's paying players, 702 00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:37,560 Speaker 4: all of a sudden, my daughter's a swimmer and the 703 00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:40,880 Speaker 4: swim program gets thrown out. Your daughter's lax players. All 704 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:45,160 Speaker 4: of a sudden, the women's team gets disbanded because the 705 00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:48,360 Speaker 4: school had to pay for it. Because not all schools 706 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:50,880 Speaker 4: make money on football and basketball, so all of a sudden, 707 00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:54,000 Speaker 4: if the schools had to start paying players, other sports 708 00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,720 Speaker 4: would pay the price. So I was always against that 709 00:32:56,880 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 4: for that reason, for the other sports, the non revenue sports. 710 00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:04,400 Speaker 4: But as far as corporations whoever paying players and go 711 00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:06,040 Speaker 4: for it, I have no problem with it at all. 712 00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:08,640 Speaker 2: I love it, and you're right, it's a great point 713 00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:11,160 Speaker 2: about the Supreme Court, they agree on nothing. Nine to 714 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:14,080 Speaker 2: nine to nothing was the vote because they're saying, hey, 715 00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:17,160 Speaker 2: we're tired of you exploiting college kids for your own benefiting. 716 00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:20,040 Speaker 2: It's not happening anymore. And then Mike, because you and 717 00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:21,880 Speaker 2: I both have daughters, and I'm glad you brought it up, 718 00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:23,800 Speaker 2: and I was reading this in the New York Times, 719 00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:28,520 Speaker 2: this really benefits women's sports because with Sid, she was 720 00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:31,360 Speaker 2: a swimmer. With Rachel, she's going to play lacrosse at Northwestern. 721 00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:34,320 Speaker 2: They're really that's like making it to the Yankees for 722 00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:36,840 Speaker 2: my daughter, right, Like that's the pinnacle of her sport. 723 00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:39,000 Speaker 2: And what I was reading about in the Times is 724 00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:43,840 Speaker 2: women's sports and the women athletes, they're benefiting from the name, 725 00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:46,560 Speaker 2: image and likeness because this is the pinnacle. 726 00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:47,000 Speaker 3: This is it. 727 00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:49,120 Speaker 2: There is no next step for them, and so they're 728 00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:50,960 Speaker 2: benefiting in a way that the guys are it. And 729 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,720 Speaker 2: I think that's so awesome. They all deserve it. But 730 00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:56,080 Speaker 2: I love the fact that women's sports is not being ignored. 731 00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:58,600 Speaker 4: And the great thing is in the great timing for 732 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:01,000 Speaker 4: your daughter, not so much for she's out, but your 733 00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:04,320 Speaker 4: daughter is it's just starting. So there are more and 734 00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:08,000 Speaker 4: more companies out there that are getting creative ways to 735 00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:09,840 Speaker 4: not get the star of the football team and the 736 00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:11,920 Speaker 4: star of the basketball team. All that stuff's going to 737 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:15,520 Speaker 4: take care of itself. It's the other sports, you know, 738 00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:18,560 Speaker 4: where those players all of a sudden are getting money 739 00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:22,640 Speaker 4: for things. I love the twin basketball guards at Fresno State. 740 00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:25,440 Speaker 4: They know they're not going to go to the WNBA, 741 00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:28,400 Speaker 4: but they have millions of TikTok followers, and they signed 742 00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:30,680 Speaker 4: a huge deal and I think it was with boost Mobile. 743 00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:34,360 Speaker 4: They and they said, we're not going any higher than this, 744 00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:36,600 Speaker 4: just like you said with your daughter, We're not going 745 00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:38,799 Speaker 4: to be good enough for the NBA. So this is 746 00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:41,360 Speaker 4: it for us, and they get the timing out and 747 00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:44,080 Speaker 4: make their money. Your daughter will as well. And I 748 00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:47,720 Speaker 4: love the fact that other athletes and non revenue sports are. 749 00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:48,480 Speaker 3: Going to be in position. 750 00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:50,120 Speaker 4: And it may not be as much. 751 00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:51,000 Speaker 3: As the star quarterback. 752 00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:53,640 Speaker 4: It probably won't be, but so what making some money 753 00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:56,120 Speaker 4: is good and be to be able to find a way, 754 00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:58,960 Speaker 4: a creative way to make some money off your name, 755 00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:01,120 Speaker 4: image and likeness, I think it's fantastic. 756 00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:03,160 Speaker 2: I mean, someone I know we just signed a thirty 757 00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:05,680 Speaker 2: eight million dollar contract, but somewhere Trevor Lawrence has to 758 00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:08,040 Speaker 2: be like, come on there, what the fuck think about? 759 00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:10,920 Speaker 4: Think about what those guys like that could have gotten. 760 00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:14,920 Speaker 4: I mean it really, I mean that's what every former 761 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,239 Speaker 4: player is doing right now is Oh man, I'd have 762 00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:19,560 Speaker 4: made this or I'd have made that. You know, I 763 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:23,080 Speaker 4: got a great supermarket here, Martin's that has great Creamfield donuts. 764 00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:24,880 Speaker 4: I'd have been happy with that kind of deal. 765 00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:26,400 Speaker 3: You know. Give me, what do you imagine? 766 00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:28,440 Speaker 2: What do you imagine if they had this in place 767 00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:30,319 Speaker 2: when Michael Olic Senior was playing at Notre Dame. 768 00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:31,560 Speaker 3: You should be in the Hall of Fame, by the way, 769 00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:33,240 Speaker 3: But what do you imagine you'd be endorsing? 770 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:37,160 Speaker 4: I think that would be it. Listen me. It wasn't 771 00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:39,560 Speaker 4: just an ESPN thing that's been in all my life thing, 772 00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:42,080 Speaker 4: so it would have been it would have been something 773 00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:44,560 Speaker 4: revolving around food, absolutely no doubt about it. 774 00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:46,520 Speaker 3: Mike Allo brought to you by Donuts. 775 00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:49,400 Speaker 2: And by the way, Stupotity will be sponsoring Rachel Wieders, 776 00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:52,160 Speaker 2: so everyone get the hell away. There you go, Rachel 777 00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:56,040 Speaker 2: Peter brought to you by Stupotity. We got a math 778 00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:58,040 Speaker 2: wiz coming up. But before we get to that. Uh, 779 00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:00,560 Speaker 2: what's got you got with Mike? How far are we 780 00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:02,319 Speaker 2: from trading camp right now? We can't be that far 781 00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:02,879 Speaker 2: out right. 782 00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:05,120 Speaker 4: We're just a couple of weeks now. The two teams 783 00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:07,160 Speaker 4: that are in the in the camp in the Hall 784 00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:08,800 Speaker 4: of Fame game, they'll get to go a week early, 785 00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:11,600 Speaker 4: so probably like the third week of July they'll start, 786 00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:13,600 Speaker 4: and then everybody else will start that last week of 787 00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:16,280 Speaker 4: July or the beginning of August. So this is about 788 00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:20,200 Speaker 4: that time, Stu, when my wife kind of was ready 789 00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:22,600 Speaker 4: for me to leave the house because you kind of 790 00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:27,120 Speaker 4: started getting in that mode of and you know, and 791 00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:31,719 Speaker 4: we're you're about to just you worked yourself to the peak. 792 00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:35,160 Speaker 4: I've always did the football as a cycle. You peak 793 00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:37,560 Speaker 4: right the first day of training camp. That's when you're 794 00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:40,000 Speaker 4: in your best physical condition. And the first day of 795 00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:43,000 Speaker 4: training camp it starts to go down, and then it's camp, 796 00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:45,040 Speaker 4: and then the season you go down. Then the season ends, 797 00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:47,120 Speaker 4: you're at your lowest, and then the off season you 798 00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:50,000 Speaker 4: build back up to the top, but you don't quite 799 00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:52,879 Speaker 4: reach that same top. It's a little lower. Year after year, 800 00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:55,000 Speaker 4: it gets a little lower and a little lower, but 801 00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:58,040 Speaker 4: you start to get that mental feeling of I got 802 00:36:58,040 --> 00:36:59,759 Speaker 4: to go to camp, I gotta start hitting. It's the 803 00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:02,440 Speaker 4: worst part of the year, training camp. I know training 804 00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:04,680 Speaker 4: camp isn't as tough now as back in the day, 805 00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:06,759 Speaker 4: but it's still the toughest part of the season. Our 806 00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:09,560 Speaker 4: training camps, even though they don't do two days, our 807 00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:12,040 Speaker 4: back to back hitting days, it's still the hardest part. 808 00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:14,960 Speaker 4: So yeah, I start to get that mental glaze in 809 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:16,880 Speaker 4: my eyes, and my wife is kind of ready for 810 00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:20,280 Speaker 4: me to go. And I went as a tenth rounder, 811 00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:23,320 Speaker 4: which is basically a kin to an undrafted free agent today, 812 00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:25,160 Speaker 4: So you know, you have to go in there and 813 00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:25,880 Speaker 4: make a splash. 814 00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:26,759 Speaker 3: You know, you have to. 815 00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:30,000 Speaker 4: My dad raised me stew as I went up the 816 00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:33,680 Speaker 4: ranks in football, and this was his mentality. I don't 817 00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:35,520 Speaker 4: tell other people to do this or say this is 818 00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:37,279 Speaker 4: the way to do it. Probably not the smartest thing 819 00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:40,520 Speaker 4: in the world to do. Okay, he'd say, find the biggest, 820 00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:43,200 Speaker 4: best player on the other side of the ball and 821 00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:45,439 Speaker 4: get in a fight with him. That's what my dad 822 00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:47,400 Speaker 4: told me to do when I went into high school, 823 00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:49,440 Speaker 4: when I went into college, and when I went into 824 00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:51,959 Speaker 4: the pros. That's what he told me to do. He said, 825 00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:54,399 Speaker 4: find the biggest, the toughest guy, who is the best guy, 826 00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:57,200 Speaker 4: and go hammer him until he wants to fight, and 827 00:37:57,239 --> 00:38:00,600 Speaker 4: then just fight. And I was like, and I did, Okay, 828 00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:03,040 Speaker 4: I listen to my dad. My dad was my hero growing. 829 00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:03,239 Speaker 3: Up, you know. 830 00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:05,440 Speaker 4: And and the way football was taught back then was 831 00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:08,240 Speaker 4: a little different. We're a little smarter about about teaching 832 00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:11,440 Speaker 4: football now. But that's what I did. That's that's exactly 833 00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:13,280 Speaker 4: what I did. I got in a ton of fights. 834 00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:15,759 Speaker 2: But Michael, about a second, can you give me the 835 00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:18,000 Speaker 2: high school fight? Like, who'd you pick in high school? 836 00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:19,960 Speaker 2: Who did you pick in college? Who'd you pick when 837 00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:20,560 Speaker 2: you got to the eco? 838 00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:25,240 Speaker 4: It was always somebody older. I don't remember the person 839 00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:27,319 Speaker 4: in high school. But I played a little bit on 840 00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:31,400 Speaker 4: varsity as a freshman and a sophomore, so at times 841 00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:33,640 Speaker 4: I would practice with them. It wasn't when I practiced 842 00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:36,279 Speaker 4: freshman on freshman. It was when I would practice with 843 00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:39,000 Speaker 4: somebody on the varsity and I would just I would 844 00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:41,640 Speaker 4: just it would be like probably normally an offensive lineman. 845 00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:44,400 Speaker 4: But I remember to it when I went to Philly. 846 00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:47,919 Speaker 4: When I went to Philadelphia, Buddy Ryan was a coach 847 00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:52,120 Speaker 4: and we did like on Wednesdays, and usually Wednesdays we 848 00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:54,879 Speaker 4: worked on the running game. So we did that back then. 849 00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:57,839 Speaker 4: We did nine on seven full pads. Nine on seven, 850 00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:00,480 Speaker 4: for anybody that doesn't know, is a running drill. Nine 851 00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:03,560 Speaker 4: offensive players, seven defensive players, and they can only run 852 00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:06,440 Speaker 4: the ball and not like wide plays. It's like basically 853 00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:08,919 Speaker 4: in between the tackles or right off the tackles. It's 854 00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:13,280 Speaker 4: all running plays. And this wasn't tackle. This was wrap 855 00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:15,640 Speaker 4: up and thud and wrap up and thud was always 856 00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:18,520 Speaker 4: a pretty pretty hard thing. You still hit very very hard, 857 00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:21,359 Speaker 4: you just didn't take them to the ground. And I 858 00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:23,920 Speaker 4: remember when I got there my dad the first we 859 00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:25,840 Speaker 4: did our drills and I went to nine on seventh. 860 00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:29,280 Speaker 4: This was my first time in pads with the Eagles 861 00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:32,520 Speaker 4: in this drill, and my dad's voice was ringing in 862 00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:36,120 Speaker 4: my head. So and I just happened to be in 863 00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:39,880 Speaker 4: Ron Jaworski's golf tournament with my former teammate Keith Byer's. 864 00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:42,399 Speaker 4: We rode around together and Keith was a running back 865 00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:45,359 Speaker 4: in this situation. So he's a running back and they're 866 00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:47,440 Speaker 4: not supposed to get brought to the ground or tackled. 867 00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:50,479 Speaker 4: And I'm and again in my head, my dad, do something, 868 00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:52,000 Speaker 4: do something, get in a fight, do something to get 869 00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:54,040 Speaker 4: in a fight. So it's a running play, and I 870 00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:57,720 Speaker 4: was I was best against the runs instead of pass rush. 871 00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:00,399 Speaker 4: And I got to them on the running play and 872 00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:03,800 Speaker 4: Stu I drilled him. I drilled him and he didn't 873 00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:06,040 Speaker 4: expect to get taken to the ground, and I drilled 874 00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:09,600 Speaker 4: him into the ground. I just and so every offensive 875 00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:12,279 Speaker 4: lineman came diving on me. I just got up and 876 00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:15,960 Speaker 4: started swinging, and they were swinging, and obviously the defense 877 00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:18,840 Speaker 4: came to my defense because that's what you do. They're swinging. 878 00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:21,600 Speaker 4: It's a huge fight. And I'll never forget. Somebody said 879 00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:24,480 Speaker 4: after that moment. He said, buddy, Ryan loved you because 880 00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:28,160 Speaker 4: of your toughness. I'm like, all right, ready to go, dad. 881 00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:34,040 Speaker 4: Fast forward that to Miami. Okay, so Miami, I hurt 882 00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:37,000 Speaker 4: my calf before I signed with them, so I was 883 00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:40,120 Speaker 4: didn't practice in training camp right away. So about halfway 884 00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:43,400 Speaker 4: through training camp, I started practicing. Sure enough, one of 885 00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:46,920 Speaker 4: the first drills nine on seven. Here, it was even looser. 886 00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:49,040 Speaker 4: It wasn't even full go on the line, and it 887 00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:52,040 Speaker 4: certainly wasn't full on the back. And what did I do? 888 00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:55,840 Speaker 4: I did the same thing. I destroyed the back started 889 00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:59,840 Speaker 4: a huge fight. The difference is don Shula almost find me. 890 00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:06,440 Speaker 4: He was not as impressed with the toughness thing, and 891 00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:08,319 Speaker 4: you know, you look back on it and you think, 892 00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:10,880 Speaker 4: you know, a lot of the toughness thing needs to 893 00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:13,879 Speaker 4: be gone from the NFL things like that. So it 894 00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:16,400 Speaker 4: worked back then, but really that's not the way to 895 00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:17,080 Speaker 4: go about it. 896 00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:20,480 Speaker 2: Did you pass that that glorious life lesson from your 897 00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:21,799 Speaker 2: dad onto your son's. 898 00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:27,560 Speaker 4: Jake was more. Jake was more the guy apt to 899 00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:31,920 Speaker 4: get in a fight than than than Mike was. I 900 00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:34,120 Speaker 4: remember telling Jake it was I think it was a 901 00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:37,239 Speaker 4: high school game, so they were a little older, and 902 00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:39,560 Speaker 4: there was supposedly a kid on the other team. A 903 00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:41,200 Speaker 4: coach had said, there's this kid on the other team, 904 00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:43,640 Speaker 4: watch out for him. He kind of cheap shots guys, 905 00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:45,799 Speaker 4: you know. So I told Jake, I said, listen, Jake, 906 00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:48,120 Speaker 4: on the first kickoff, just run down the field, don't 907 00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:50,200 Speaker 4: worry about the ball carry, just go drill that hid. 908 00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:53,600 Speaker 4: I mean, I think back on it, and it was 909 00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:57,400 Speaker 4: just a horrible thing to do, horrible thing to So 910 00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:00,080 Speaker 4: I'm glad I got that out of my sist. And 911 00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:02,600 Speaker 4: because I coached the boys when they were I coached 912 00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:05,799 Speaker 4: their teams growing up, and I'm really a fundamentals guy. 913 00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:08,239 Speaker 4: I said, it's going to be fun and fundamental. So no, 914 00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:10,520 Speaker 4: what my dad taught me, I did not teach to 915 00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:13,480 Speaker 4: the team. I did not teach two other players. Maybe 916 00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:15,480 Speaker 4: a little bit to my boys, but I wouldn't do 917 00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:17,920 Speaker 4: that to the other kids as well. It was mainly 918 00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:19,560 Speaker 4: about fundamentals, all right. 919 00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:22,400 Speaker 2: So before we get to our to our math our 920 00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:25,040 Speaker 2: math off, I guess what's got you excited about the 921 00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:26,000 Speaker 2: NFL coming up here? 922 00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:27,080 Speaker 3: Mike, Like, give me a cut. 923 00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:29,200 Speaker 2: Is there a team that a lot of people think, 924 00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:30,640 Speaker 2: you know, not gonna be that good? 925 00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:33,319 Speaker 4: I mean, I mean to me, it's the Browns. Are 926 00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:35,440 Speaker 4: the Browns really the second or third best team in 927 00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:38,400 Speaker 4: the AFC? Because Kansas City is still number one? Is 928 00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:39,480 Speaker 4: Buffalo number two? 929 00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:40,400 Speaker 3: You know? 930 00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:42,720 Speaker 4: And then is Cleveland right there? If it's not Cleveland, 931 00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:44,319 Speaker 4: who's it going to be? Is it going to be 932 00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:47,000 Speaker 4: the Chargers? With Herbert and they helped with some weapons 933 00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:49,440 Speaker 4: for him, and how well he played last year kind 934 00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:51,680 Speaker 4: of took the league by storm a little bit. But 935 00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:53,759 Speaker 4: I think that's one of the biggest questions to me, 936 00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:56,600 Speaker 4: I think Aaron Rodgers is playing for the Packers. I 937 00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:59,439 Speaker 4: know in that match the other day, he didn't really 938 00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:01,160 Speaker 4: give a you know, he wasn't going to answer that 939 00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:03,040 Speaker 4: question when they asked him. 940 00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:05,640 Speaker 3: I think he's going to play for Green Bay. 941 00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:08,279 Speaker 4: And I mean Tampa Bay is the first team ever 942 00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:10,120 Speaker 4: to win a Super Bowl and have all twenty two 943 00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:13,040 Speaker 4: starters back the next year. It seems too good to 944 00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:15,279 Speaker 4: be true that they could repeat. You would think an 945 00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:17,799 Speaker 4: injury or something is going to knock that off. It's 946 00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:21,040 Speaker 4: going to be tough. But to me, it is probably 947 00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:23,400 Speaker 4: my hometown team at the Cleveland Browns. They've done a 948 00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:25,880 Speaker 4: great job in the offseason of picking up free agents. 949 00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:28,560 Speaker 4: They've drafted well the last couple of years, and I 950 00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:30,719 Speaker 4: think a lot of it's still on. Baker Mayfield had 951 00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:33,600 Speaker 4: a great rookie year, a bad second year, a really 952 00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:36,120 Speaker 4: good finish to his third year. Now let's see what 953 00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:38,719 Speaker 4: he does this year. Can he continue it going? But 954 00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:42,400 Speaker 4: to me, they could be the story since they've stunk 955 00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:45,920 Speaker 4: for so long, finally getting the class last year in decades. 956 00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:48,280 Speaker 4: So to me, I think that's a great story. 957 00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:52,960 Speaker 2: I'll be seeing Rogers out here in Tahoe okay, name dropping. 958 00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:55,520 Speaker 2: I will ask him now hopefully he'll be hammered, but 959 00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:57,520 Speaker 2: I'm going to continue to ask that question until he 960 00:43:57,560 --> 00:43:58,040 Speaker 2: answers it. 961 00:43:58,080 --> 00:43:59,640 Speaker 3: I have a feeling, Billy he might answer it for 962 00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:00,279 Speaker 3: me us. 963 00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:02,799 Speaker 4: What do you think he'd sat on the broadcast he'd 964 00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:05,200 Speaker 4: answer it for Barkley. So you got to get to 965 00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:08,600 Speaker 4: him before Barkley gets to him, because he said, Barkley, 966 00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:10,239 Speaker 4: let me ask you a question before we get to 967 00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:10,600 Speaker 4: the man. 968 00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:13,319 Speaker 2: I'm gonna get Barkley to sit down with us, and 969 00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:15,280 Speaker 2: I'll have Barkley ask Rogers. 970 00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:19,359 Speaker 4: That that would be the best. If you legitimately, where 971 00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:22,279 Speaker 4: do you Where would you think you placed in this 972 00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:23,279 Speaker 4: top hall event. 973 00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:28,120 Speaker 3: Golfers. I think there's there's eighty golfers. 974 00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:30,720 Speaker 2: I think the bet for Barkley is will he finished 975 00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:33,239 Speaker 2: in the top seventy five to one? 976 00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:33,880 Speaker 3: Yeah? 977 00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:38,239 Speaker 2: Right, five to one. So I'm not playing the weekend 978 00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:39,960 Speaker 2: because my daughter has a lacrosse tour. 979 00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:43,000 Speaker 4: But if you were, if you were in this legitimately 980 00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:45,480 Speaker 4: playing the whole time, where do you think you would finish? 981 00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:48,000 Speaker 2: I think probably, to be honest with you, probably middle 982 00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:50,640 Speaker 2: of the pack. I played, So we play from I 983 00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:54,759 Speaker 2: believe the white teas right when we play tomorrow. So 984 00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:57,319 Speaker 2: we're taking this on Wednesday and we play Thursday. We 985 00:44:57,360 --> 00:44:59,640 Speaker 2: played from the white teas, I played nine. I played 986 00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:00,680 Speaker 2: eleven holes from. 987 00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:01,560 Speaker 3: The blue teas. Nine. 988 00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:04,399 Speaker 2: I played with the complete stranger. Then somehow I met 989 00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:07,080 Speaker 2: up with Ray Allen and Robbie Gold, of all people, 990 00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:11,040 Speaker 2: I play to holes with that, Like, I'll tell you 991 00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:11,879 Speaker 2: a funny Gold story. 992 00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:12,399 Speaker 3: Is that good? 993 00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:16,239 Speaker 2: So I shot a forty one on the front nine 994 00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:19,879 Speaker 2: from the blues, which pretty good. Whites are closer, so 995 00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:22,399 Speaker 2: I should theoretically be a little bit better than that. 996 00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:25,000 Speaker 2: I'm a good golf I'm gonna I'm a ten handicap. 997 00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:26,600 Speaker 2: But I know there's some great golfers out of here. 998 00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:28,640 Speaker 2: Like Robbie Gold was killing the fucking ball. 999 00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:30,000 Speaker 3: He's a kickers kicker. 1000 00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:34,240 Speaker 4: I know materbacks have they don't have these long lasting injuries, 1001 00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:35,680 Speaker 4: so they can swing a freaking club. 1002 00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:38,120 Speaker 3: You know. Robbie Gold's good. Ray Allen is legit. 1003 00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:41,759 Speaker 4: I'm golf with him in a couple of tournaments, So I. 1004 00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:43,680 Speaker 2: Listen, I'm conditioning to tell you that I'd finished in 1005 00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:46,239 Speaker 2: the top five, because that's just me delusional confidence. 1006 00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:49,320 Speaker 3: But I think I think. 1007 00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:51,560 Speaker 2: Middle of the pack seems seems about right, like I'm 1008 00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:53,879 Speaker 2: a good enough golfer to and on the right day, 1009 00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:55,600 Speaker 2: I'll fucking compete and win the goddamn thing. 1010 00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:56,640 Speaker 3: Mike, how about that, you. 1011 00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:59,520 Speaker 4: And I have never golfed. I'm looking I'm taking golf 1012 00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:01,960 Speaker 4: way more seriously. You and I have not golfed yet, 1013 00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:02,880 Speaker 4: so we need. 1014 00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:04,919 Speaker 2: Well, we haven't golfed together. We did the Pinehurst event 1015 00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:06,839 Speaker 2: when we were at ESPN. We have not golf together. 1016 00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:10,680 Speaker 4: And I'm I finally did this gin app or whatever, 1017 00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:14,000 Speaker 4: and I'm like a thirteen point four index. Whatever that means. 1018 00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:15,840 Speaker 4: I don't know what it means, but that's where I 1019 00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:16,479 Speaker 4: am right now. 1020 00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:17,680 Speaker 3: It means you're pretty good. 1021 00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:20,120 Speaker 4: Mike, coming priss, give me a little time. 1022 00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:22,920 Speaker 3: I'll beat you, all right. 1023 00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:24,720 Speaker 2: So I'm gonna get the I'm gonna get the answers 1024 00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:26,759 Speaker 2: out of a and the Robbie Gold story real quick 1025 00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:28,120 Speaker 2: was he's on the tea, Mike. 1026 00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:30,239 Speaker 3: You'll appreciate this. He's on the tea. Now. 1027 00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:33,399 Speaker 2: Where I play in Parkland, I have my own golf court. 1028 00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:35,680 Speaker 2: The golf court doesn't have the break that you have 1029 00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:38,160 Speaker 2: to push all the way down. When you stop, you stop, 1030 00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:40,840 Speaker 2: it's over okay, there's no beeping sound. That's done it. 1031 00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:44,160 Speaker 2: So I'm used to just stopping my court. So Robbie 1032 00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:47,160 Speaker 2: Gold's on the tee, I'm pulling up in my court 1033 00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:49,319 Speaker 2: and I keep forgetting the cart just doesn't stop on 1034 00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:51,719 Speaker 2: its own, right, So I don't hit the uh the 1035 00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:54,800 Speaker 2: reverse button, and it starts backing up and it starts 1036 00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:58,719 Speaker 2: beeping in the middle of Robbie's fucking oh no, and 1037 00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:01,200 Speaker 2: Ray's looking at me and people looking at me. 1038 00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:03,560 Speaker 3: So I'm like, Robbie, I'm so fucking sorry, man, I'm 1039 00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:04,280 Speaker 3: really sorry. 1040 00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:08,279 Speaker 2: And because I think Robbie so We're playing for a 1041 00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:11,120 Speaker 2: whole or two and I'm only talking to Ray, and 1042 00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:13,719 Speaker 2: I think Robbie sensed that I didn't know who Robbie was, 1043 00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:16,320 Speaker 2: and he if he did sense that, he was right. 1044 00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:17,840 Speaker 4: Oh, you're getting it first. 1045 00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:21,200 Speaker 2: He was my size, like he was my size bike, 1046 00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:24,200 Speaker 2: and so so I go, right, I go. I said 1047 00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:26,319 Speaker 2: to him, Hey, I'm so sorry man, because at this 1048 00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:28,839 Speaker 2: point we have not established name, right, right, So I'm 1049 00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:31,040 Speaker 2: like I'm like, hey, I'm so sorry to do that 1050 00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:33,120 Speaker 2: to you. And he's like, hey, man, it's all right. 1051 00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:36,640 Speaker 2: I got seventy thousand NFL fans screaming. 1052 00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:37,719 Speaker 3: At me when I'm trying to make a kick. 1053 00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:40,840 Speaker 2: And it was a funny story, a funny rebuttal, a 1054 00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:43,440 Speaker 2: funny answer by Robbie. But I also think it was 1055 00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:45,919 Speaker 2: Robbie's way of alerting me that he was Robbie fucking Gold. 1056 00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:49,840 Speaker 4: So if he didn't say his name and he just 1057 00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:52,839 Speaker 4: said seventy thousand and a kicker, did you then know 1058 00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:53,480 Speaker 4: who it was? 1059 00:47:55,280 --> 00:48:02,440 Speaker 3: I mean, no, a kicker is a kicker unless it's Janakowski. 1060 00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:03,840 Speaker 3: That's true. 1061 00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:06,319 Speaker 4: That's very true. By the way, when when you when 1062 00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:08,719 Speaker 4: you were beeping during his backswing, how did his shotgun? 1063 00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:10,600 Speaker 3: He fucking flushed it. 1064 00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:13,960 Speaker 4: And do it every time? Who gives a ship? 1065 00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:15,840 Speaker 2: Well that's what he said, because the next day we 1066 00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:17,480 Speaker 2: went to the next d box and he hit went 1067 00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:20,480 Speaker 2: way off to the right, and he goes, now we've 1068 00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:21,399 Speaker 2: established names here. 1069 00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:24,200 Speaker 3: He goes, Stu, I needed to reverse next time you 1070 00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:26,759 Speaker 3: bck it up. He's the best, all right, Billy? Do 1071 00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:27,160 Speaker 3: you have uh? 1072 00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:29,239 Speaker 2: Do you have math problems here? This is very by 1073 00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:30,839 Speaker 2: the way, they're a Notre Dame hall of Fame, Bill, 1074 00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:31,560 Speaker 2: did you look it up? 1075 00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:34,160 Speaker 5: I didn't find a Notre Dame Hall of Fame. I 1076 00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:36,440 Speaker 5: found a list of like pro football hall of famers 1077 00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:38,480 Speaker 5: that went a Notre Dame, in college football halls a 1078 00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:39,719 Speaker 5: lot that went to Notre Dame. 1079 00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:42,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, there isn't a Notre Dame Hall of Fame, is there? 1080 00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:45,600 Speaker 5: I haven't found it, But maybe we can start when 1081 00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:47,719 Speaker 5: and just call it the Mike Golic Notre Dame Hall 1082 00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:49,160 Speaker 5: of Fame, and then even if you don't get in, 1083 00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:50,279 Speaker 5: we'll just name it after you. 1084 00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:53,040 Speaker 4: That'll go over well with everybody in Notre Dame. 1085 00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:53,359 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1086 00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:56,680 Speaker 4: Thanks, Hey, hey, guys, don't help me jesus. 1087 00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:03,560 Speaker 2: That's what Piselli said, after more than it can help, 1088 00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:08,640 Speaker 2: all right, Billy, Let's uh, Mike. Now, Mike claims there 1089 00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:10,360 Speaker 2: is no one this is his domain. There is no 1090 00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:15,560 Speaker 2: one better at simple basic math, michaels here, which I don't. 1091 00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:16,279 Speaker 3: Know why it makes me laugh. 1092 00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:17,600 Speaker 4: I hope things aren't hard. 1093 00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:20,719 Speaker 5: Okay, So we have ten problems here, right? We have 1094 00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:24,880 Speaker 5: six multiple multiplication, two division, one edition, one subtraction. Do 1095 00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:27,040 Speaker 5: you guys want me to give each of you five 1096 00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:28,560 Speaker 5: or do you want me to just hold it up 1097 00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:31,000 Speaker 5: and then whoever answers it first gets the points? 1098 00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:33,279 Speaker 3: What do you think, Mike? Oh? 1099 00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:36,719 Speaker 4: I I think it's whoever answers it first, because all right, 1100 00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:38,440 Speaker 4: I mean you'll you'll hear me first. 1101 00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:40,439 Speaker 2: So I think that I think that's the way Billy 1102 00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:57,880 Speaker 2: wanted it done, right, Yeah, all right, ready to go. 1103 00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:53,720 Speaker 4: Christ And I'm wondering, Billy, could you have written the numbers 1104 00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:54,520 Speaker 4: a little smaller? 1105 00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:57,000 Speaker 3: Well? That was the one anymore. 1106 00:49:57,360 --> 00:50:00,520 Speaker 5: So here's the thing, Mike is the the camera. 1107 00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:04,000 Speaker 4: And listen, I'm the oldest person here. 1108 00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:05,279 Speaker 3: Okay. 1109 00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:07,839 Speaker 5: So I did this on post it and at first 1110 00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:10,000 Speaker 5: I only have pens, so I just wrote once and 1111 00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:10,880 Speaker 5: I'm like, no one. 1112 00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:11,239 Speaker 3: Can read this. 1113 00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:12,919 Speaker 5: So then I tried to do it like very thick, 1114 00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:15,279 Speaker 5: but it's still really small. So I'll just say it 1115 00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:15,799 Speaker 5: also as. 1116 00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:17,960 Speaker 4: I'm holding it up, holding up post like that. 1117 00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:23,080 Speaker 5: Ready, one hundred and seven minus fifty two. 1118 00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:30,279 Speaker 4: Forty eight, No forty five, no fifty five fifty you're 1119 00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:34,080 Speaker 4: up one nothing like you're on nothing and forty eight. Sto, guys, 1120 00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:37,400 Speaker 4: I'm terrible. I'm just trying to beat him yea with 1121 00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:37,799 Speaker 4: my head. 1122 00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:38,160 Speaker 3: Billy. 1123 00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:38,719 Speaker 4: That was bad. 1124 00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:41,400 Speaker 3: I mean that was bad, all right? 1125 00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:44,160 Speaker 5: Ready, eight times eight sixty four? 1126 00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:46,960 Speaker 3: Wow? Gotam? I got them? 1127 00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:47,280 Speaker 7: Oh? 1128 00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:48,840 Speaker 4: I know that was What do you think, Billy? 1129 00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:51,240 Speaker 5: Did you get me or was that a time gott gotts? 1130 00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:54,520 Speaker 3: All right, Mike, the shame you're gonna feel from both. 1131 00:50:54,360 --> 00:51:00,399 Speaker 5: Me and my i'd be you, all right, Seventy seven 1132 00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:07,560 Speaker 5: divided by eleven seven, God's got the way. It's internet 1133 00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:09,279 Speaker 5: speed or what's going on here? 1134 00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:14,399 Speaker 2: I was gonna say, is the speed difference? I'm hearing it, Mike. 1135 00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:16,080 Speaker 2: I promise you Billy wants me to lose. 1136 00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:17,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, I want him to lose really badly. 1137 00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:19,759 Speaker 4: Why he gave you the answers? 1138 00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:20,959 Speaker 3: All right? 1139 00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:23,720 Speaker 5: Ready? Well, now I'm wondering if you could see the answers, 1140 00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:25,239 Speaker 5: because I wrote the answers on the back to make 1141 00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:26,960 Speaker 5: sure that I got them right. So I'm wondering if 1142 00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:27,719 Speaker 5: you can see through. 1143 00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:30,480 Speaker 3: Listen. I know it's called stupidity. I know my character. 1144 00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:33,759 Speaker 2: I know I'm not the smartest, the brightest bulb in 1145 00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:34,920 Speaker 2: the chandelier. 1146 00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:37,520 Speaker 3: Billy, But I know. Let's eventy seven divine eleven. I 1147 00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:45,040 Speaker 3: mean you're giving that the goal? Right? Yeah? 1148 00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:45,799 Speaker 5: He got that one. 1149 00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:48,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, he was following the eight came out at the 1150 00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:48,919 Speaker 3: same time. 1151 00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:52,479 Speaker 4: No, see, that's what I thought yours did. Obviously, Gota 1152 00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:53,960 Speaker 4: we gotta rely on Billy for. 1153 00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:54,880 Speaker 3: This, all right? 1154 00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:57,760 Speaker 5: So it's two two now five times forty five. 1155 00:51:58,080 --> 00:52:00,480 Speaker 4: Twenty twenty five. 1156 00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:07,200 Speaker 3: No, no, my got it, forty five to sixty five. 1157 00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:10,440 Speaker 5: All right, final answers forty. 1158 00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:13,200 Speaker 2: Five, that's twenty five to twenty five. 1159 00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:17,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, damnit, first it first. 1160 00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:18,680 Speaker 4: I think that's the first thing I said. 1161 00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:21,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, you said it, and then you doubted yourself that 1162 00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:23,200 Speaker 5: Stucts just copied what you said. You're could have said anything. 1163 00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:24,040 Speaker 5: He would have said the same thing. 1164 00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:25,600 Speaker 4: I would have wrote it down on a test and 1165 00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:26,600 Speaker 4: really light pencil. 1166 00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:27,439 Speaker 3: Mike. 1167 00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:29,600 Speaker 2: If you notice my hands under the under the desk 1168 00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:32,000 Speaker 2: I'm sitting at, it's called the iPhone calculator. 1169 00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:40,040 Speaker 5: Even think nine times nine. 1170 00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:44,000 Speaker 3: Eight one eighty one? Wow, thank you, No, it wasn't. 1171 00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:47,880 Speaker 5: That was no st gots. You're losing no coling yees war. 1172 00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:51,440 Speaker 2: Two now there's now he's rigging it your way now bullshit. 1173 00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:53,520 Speaker 2: You should be the math Hall of Fame, Mike. 1174 00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:55,080 Speaker 3: Thank you. All right. 1175 00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:57,160 Speaker 5: Ready, you know there used to be a chess a 1176 00:52:57,200 --> 00:52:59,640 Speaker 5: World Chess Hall of Fame down here, like in South Florida, 1177 00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:01,440 Speaker 5: right by where I used to live, and then it 1178 00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:03,319 Speaker 5: just closed because I think no one went to it, 1179 00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:07,480 Speaker 5: and then they moved it somewhere else, and now it's 1180 00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:10,080 Speaker 5: like I think, I believe it's like a construction company 1181 00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:12,319 Speaker 5: building now, but the corner of it still is a 1182 00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:14,560 Speaker 5: giant chess piece because they made the building look like 1183 00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:15,640 Speaker 5: a giant chess piece. 1184 00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:20,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, but the idea, Billie, who would go to that? 1185 00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:25,200 Speaker 5: Twelve times eleven one twenty. 1186 00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:28,520 Speaker 4: One, twenty two, twenty two. 1187 00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:40,720 Speaker 8: Twelve times eleven were ten? This is great? 1188 00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:44,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's horrible. Wow, you want to know how I 1189 00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:47,600 Speaker 3: got to that? I did twelve times twelve? I know. God, 1190 00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:50,320 Speaker 3: we're idiots. 1191 00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:53,520 Speaker 5: All right, we have two left and right now, Mike, 1192 00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:55,080 Speaker 5: you're leading four to three. 1193 00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:56,759 Speaker 3: So the next one guess clitches it. 1194 00:53:57,320 --> 00:53:59,040 Speaker 5: Well, i'll give you. I'll give you a choice then, 1195 00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:01,160 Speaker 5: since actually stiguts, you'll get the choice since you're down 1196 00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:02,959 Speaker 5: and you need to get it right. Do you want 1197 00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:04,759 Speaker 5: addition or division? 1198 00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:10,800 Speaker 7: So wait, it's four to three. Yeah, but there's two left. Yeah, 1199 00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:14,279 Speaker 7: so if he gets it, you lose. Okay, So do 1200 00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:15,640 Speaker 7: you want addition or division? 1201 00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:18,040 Speaker 3: I want edition? Edition? 1202 00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:19,839 Speaker 5: Well, because both of you got one of them wrong. 1203 00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:21,160 Speaker 5: So do you want edition? 1204 00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:21,560 Speaker 3: Yes? 1205 00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:27,680 Speaker 5: Okay, fifty seven plus thirty eight ninety five. 1206 00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:30,560 Speaker 3: Oh he got it, damn it, he is he is 1207 00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:32,040 Speaker 3: he's the best of basic man. 1208 00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:35,880 Speaker 4: I don't know if that's something to pat myself on 1209 00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:36,680 Speaker 4: the back about it or not. 1210 00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:40,000 Speaker 3: Better you beat me again, I don't. 1211 00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:41,440 Speaker 4: Know if that has something to pat myself on the 1212 00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:42,240 Speaker 4: back of out. 1213 00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:45,279 Speaker 3: And you barely beat me, and I really would dust you. Yeah. 1214 00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:47,160 Speaker 3: It wasn't like a whitewas, that's for sure. 1215 00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:49,480 Speaker 5: Wow, all right. The last one was one thousand divided 1216 00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:49,919 Speaker 5: by twenty. 1217 00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:54,880 Speaker 3: My god is five hundred no fifty? 1218 00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:56,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, fifty? 1219 00:54:56,520 --> 00:54:56,839 Speaker 3: All right? 1220 00:54:57,040 --> 00:55:00,440 Speaker 5: So that was the uh, that was the to make 1221 00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:04,120 Speaker 5: it more so, it's just lost five four Yeah, okay, No, I. 1222 00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:05,560 Speaker 3: Thought that was like the last ball in the rack 1223 00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:06,279 Speaker 3: of the three point. 1224 00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:10,160 Speaker 4: It's pretty respectable, though, better than I thought. And I'm 1225 00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:10,920 Speaker 4: little he's. 1226 00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:11,880 Speaker 5: Trying to give himself bonus. 1227 00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:16,440 Speaker 4: Hey, that's that's two guys make up rules along the way. 1228 00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:17,120 Speaker 3: I don't blame. 1229 00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:21,160 Speaker 2: Him, Golick. This has been thoroughly enjoyable. I've taken up 1230 00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:23,680 Speaker 2: enough of your time, Billy, thank you for doing this today. 1231 00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:27,040 Speaker 2: And Michael Michael, I'm calling you, Michael. I don't know 1232 00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:28,479 Speaker 2: why I'm calling you Michael, like I'm your. 1233 00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:29,120 Speaker 3: Dad or something. 1234 00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:32,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, gold's gonna be I find value in Mike Golics Senior. 1235 00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:36,440 Speaker 3: I still see the value in Michael E. Senior, unlike 1236 00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:37,920 Speaker 3: other media entities. 1237 00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:40,719 Speaker 2: Okay that we discussed earlier in this podcast, and so 1238 00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:43,279 Speaker 2: Golic because I see the value, and because I love 1239 00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:45,480 Speaker 2: him and because he's a friend. We'll be on this 1240 00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:48,279 Speaker 2: podcast and around this podcast a lot more moving forward. Mike, 1241 00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:49,319 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for doing it. 1242 00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:50,480 Speaker 4: Thanks to look forward to it too. 1243 00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:51,120 Speaker 3: Thanks