1 00:00:01,760 --> 00:00:04,360 Speaker 1: You literally moved me out the house, and then you 2 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:06,400 Speaker 1: wrote a letter to me in twenty twenty to break 3 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 1: it off with me. 4 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:09,640 Speaker 2: Wait, he broke up with you with a letter, not 5 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 2: a four pen No, no, it was not four pages. 6 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 2: It was forty seven. And wait, he broke it with 7 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 2: you with a book. Forty seven book page some. 8 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:23,280 Speaker 3: Of the highlights chapter. When you were reading it, I'm 9 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:24,439 Speaker 3: sure it's too long, But what are some of the 10 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:24,760 Speaker 3: things that. 11 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 2: Made you to get like? 12 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 1: What the forty seven pages? First of all, he tried 13 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:33,600 Speaker 1: to isolate me with the letter. The first page he said, 14 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:36,239 Speaker 1: read this when you are alone and by yourself. Just 15 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 1: remember you asked for this. Now what he meant by 16 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:42,919 Speaker 1: that was for an entire year, all of twenty nineteen, 17 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 1: I had been asking him questions about what was going on, 18 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 1: because I already knew that we were uncoupling, because I 19 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 1: felt that I noticed signs when trying to avoid me, right, 20 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 1: and he was very emotionally avoidant. Right, So for a 21 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 1: whole year stopped answering my emails, text messages, calls. 22 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 2: And would check in when he wanted to. But how 23 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:08,840 Speaker 2: is so you already were living apart? Yeah, because he 24 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 2: moved me out the house while I was. 25 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 4: Out of town. So this was before the divorce. 26 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 1: Yes, okay, this was in twenty nineteen and April, but 27 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 1: I was on tour, so I was moving around doing. 28 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 2: My tourationship and a happy point. Was it a shock? 29 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 1: The moving me out while I was out of town 30 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 1: was a shock because it completely turned my world upside down. 31 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 1: And he also like displaced me with the person we 32 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 1: had moved in with us, who was houseless. Now I 33 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 1: wasn't houseless because I got my family in Chicago, so 34 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 1: that's where I went back to. But you're my husband 35 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 1: and we're living together, and you just uproot my whole life. 36 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:44,319 Speaker 2: It's a whole lot behind that. 37 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 1: But then he started like dropping letters on me right 38 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 1: to explain things. And in one of his letters, his 39 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 1: whole reasoning from us moving out was well, you said 40 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 1: you never had your own I want you to have 41 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 1: your own I want you to grow. But really it 42 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 1: was like he wanted his own space, he wanted his 43 00:01:58,480 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 1: own thing, and he didn't want to have to be 44 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 1: possible for somebody because he's their husband. He would always 45 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 1: say things like I'm not doing this for you because 46 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 1: you're my wife. 47 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 2: I'm doing it because I want to. 48 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:15,080 Speaker 5: Wow, and so can I ask you, if you're so 49 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:18,240 Speaker 5: much about the takes, why aren't you doing it? 50 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 2: Because I'm your wife number one. 51 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 4: I know it's a. 52 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:24,919 Speaker 3: Controversial, but the way that doctor Umar talks about family 53 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:28,640 Speaker 3: dynamics and honoring people and the hierarchy and prioritization of 54 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 3: women wives, et cetera, which he practiced it though it's 55 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 3: a shrink up by him. 56 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 4: Wait wait, wait, so you think he's just talked. 57 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 2: I'm gonna shut up about him. 58 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:41,799 Speaker 1: But no, this is you can say here what No, 59 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:43,640 Speaker 1: I don't think that he practices what he talks about. 60 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:46,080 Speaker 1: I think he's he is a hot take and he 61 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 1: knows that he has been a hot take for like 62 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:48,800 Speaker 1: two decades. 63 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 2: And I know people who's personally interact with him. 64 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 4: But like he has. 65 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 1: He does help, he has a lot of and he 66 00:02:57,320 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 1: anyway a child. 67 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 2: I didn't know anyway child. 68 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 5: I think he got that suki with the good too. 69 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 5: Oh he definitely did. But you know, and I'm just 70 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 5: saying that off of just optics. 71 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:11,399 Speaker 2: A bunch of people makes you. 72 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:14,800 Speaker 5: But to me, however, I will say, if you're a 73 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:18,240 Speaker 5: man who values a woman's place in a family, dynamic 74 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 5: and you don't have a family dynamic. 75 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 2: I thought he got married to a woman before too. 76 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 3: I'll tell you this. 77 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 2: Shot. 78 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:34,639 Speaker 3: If doctor white woman, I might just go on a 79 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 3: live and you must be getting to. 80 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 4: Gonna say it. 81 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 5: I know I will say though, because he goes borrowed 82 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 5: so much. I think if he's a white woman, she 83 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 5: would have. 84 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 4: Came out by now. 85 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 1: Oh he got her on an iron clad NDA but 86 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 1: maybe you right doubt it though he really he really 87 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 1: is about Pan Africanism and like our people. 88 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 2: So I will say, there's white Africans, Yeah, there is. 89 00:03:58,240 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 1: I've seen them when I went to see them too, 90 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 1: was white Africans. But Charlie star Around is white and 91 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 1: South Africa. Yeah, Musk is a white African. 92 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 4: Yeah you know. 93 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:16,600 Speaker 3: But anyway, hey, we are also American, but we were 94 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 3: brought here. So I don't like to act like white 95 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:20,360 Speaker 3: people have their ground. 96 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:24,599 Speaker 5: And anything saying everybody ever will but yeah that's but yeah, 97 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 5: so I hear him saying I'm doing this because I 98 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 5: want to. But as if he has no obligation to 99 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:33,920 Speaker 5: live out his role as a husband to a wife, 100 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:36,359 Speaker 5: it's crazy because you're right, he was separating. 101 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 2: It's a help oh my god. 102 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 1: So it's a whole backstory with this man, and I 103 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 1: really do think that the marriage served the purpose of 104 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:48,239 Speaker 1: what I say before we got on this mic ego 105 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:53,719 Speaker 1: stroking because he grew up, he grew up in practicing Islam, 106 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:54,839 Speaker 1: so he was a Muslim man. 107 00:04:54,880 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 6: I'll never never, never good never right, was Joe, yes girl, 108 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 6: But he was a Harlem Muslim. 109 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 2: Seventh Street exactly. 110 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 5: The Harlem Mustlers was like, they became Muslims through one 111 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:19,920 Speaker 5: of the members getting locked up in the prison and 112 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 5: they learned the Islam in prison and came out and 113 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 5: became ALcom Literally. 114 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:27,360 Speaker 3: My mother and I were talking about my uncle who 115 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 3: passed her brother, and I was trying not to laugh. 116 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 3: We're in the car with my man, it's Christmas, and 117 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 3: we're talking about family and how she's the only one 118 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 3: left because her siblings died, and. 119 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:38,160 Speaker 2: She's like, you know, when he became Muslim and Jeri, 120 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:38,720 Speaker 2: he was like. 121 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 3: Met my cousin, and she's like, you know, he just 122 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:45,479 Speaker 3: took a lot of those principles on. 123 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 2: I was like, you know what, I will. 124 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 3: Say, I would rather met in jail find Islam than 125 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:56,279 Speaker 3: anything else, Like I must say that, but didn't. 126 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 4: Find a hobby. Learn how to do girl? Oh what 127 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:00,280 Speaker 4: is your read? 128 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 2: Is long? 129 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:02,599 Speaker 4: Bible? Whatever it is? 130 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 2: Hold on, cour on whatever. 131 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 5: Now got a fast When you get out of gym, 132 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:11,479 Speaker 5: I'm not start praying to the East. 133 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 2: Sorry, trying to make fun of me. Was religion, but 134 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:18,919 Speaker 2: I'm trying to shoo. I'm not. 135 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 5: No, when you date someone in their religion, broke. If 136 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 5: you don't convert, if you don't want them to convert, 137 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 5: women don't do it. 138 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 2: It's tough. Listen. 139 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 1: He wasn't a practicing Muslim. He was, he wasn't practicing Islam, 140 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:31,719 Speaker 1: but he still identified as Muslim. But at that time, 141 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 1: you know, there's a whole thing around marriage and having family, 142 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 1: and nobody, nobody wanted to marry him. 143 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:41,279 Speaker 2: So I felt like that was in hindsight. 144 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:43,920 Speaker 1: Looking at it, it was like a validation for him 145 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 1: to have somebody that. 146 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 5: I think he was proposing though to multiple partners. No, okay, no, 147 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:49,160 Speaker 5: I don't think so. 148 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:52,279 Speaker 1: But that's the thing that just with my head, which 149 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:55,160 Speaker 1: I'm going to therapy for this is I know that 150 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 1: a lot of what he did for me was sincere, 151 00:06:57,440 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 1: but he also had his own agendas, and I could 152 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 1: tell the relationship between him and his mother. There was 153 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:05,040 Speaker 1: a lot of contention there, and he has mommy issues 154 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 1: also daddy issues. It's a whole, it's all. I want 155 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 1: to go too deep into this man's personal business, but 156 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 1: it's very deep. So I did get extremely close to him, 157 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 1: I think, closer than any other partner, to the point 158 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 1: where like I was there to go support him when 159 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 1: his grandmother had passed away, and you while to get together, 160 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 1: Like when I first met him, he was kind of 161 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 1: like a transition of sorts. But I mean meeting his mother, 162 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 1: meeting his father, having relationships with his sister, like I 163 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 1: have relationships with his family. So I think of all 164 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 1: the partners he ever had, I got the deepest and 165 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 1: the closest to him. And I think that the things 166 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 1: that I brought up in him he was uncomfortable with, 167 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 1: and so he wanted to create a distance. 168 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 4: Also, I don't. 169 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 1: Care that he was ready to be with somebody where 170 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 1: he had to be locked in because he was so 171 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 1: used to being free. Now, to answer your question around 172 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 1: what this man did, this man did a lot of 173 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 1: different jobs, but he had no solid job. 174 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 2: But his ideal was like I have no future plans. 175 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 2: That was his thing. 176 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 5: Because again the spiritual principles, the spiritual principles that he 177 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 5: thought all plans are pretend plants in the eyes of God, 178 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 5: so I have no future plans. But the reason why 179 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 5: that man could be like Peter Pan and just do 180 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 5: what he wanted to do in this world is because 181 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 5: his family got money. 182 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 2: Oh I didn't really. 183 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 1: Know that until I sat and I thought about it, 184 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 1: and until one of my lovers in Brooklyn got worth 185 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 1: that I got married. 186 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 4: Oh my god. 187 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:38,200 Speaker 2: Okay, and he how long were y all dating before 188 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 2: you got married? We started dating and we started today quick, 189 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 2: but it was like. 190 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:50,079 Speaker 5: Six months marriage. Why did he want marriage? And did 191 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 5: you want marriage as well as a polygony? 192 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 4: Yeah? 193 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 1: I wanted it because at the time that's what I 194 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:57,079 Speaker 1: was looking for came Yeah, so when it came right, 195 00:08:57,120 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 1: and it's what's crazy, as I want the primary but 196 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:04,559 Speaker 1: he never saw MEA's primary. 197 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:06,199 Speaker 3: No. 198 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 2: No. 199 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 1: We had this conversation and I told him so where 200 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 1: this is where it gets crazy, because I don't think 201 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 1: that he really had the principles and the ideals around 202 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 1: like structure of polyamory. 203 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:27,080 Speaker 2: But of course he doesn't want the freedom coming from Islam. 204 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:29,560 Speaker 1: A lot of them the idea is you can have 205 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 1: multiple wise multiple people in their life. 206 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 2: Right, So a lot of the structure. 207 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 1: Of things, even with like kink and BDSM and all 208 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 1: that and lifestyle. I taught him that stuff, you know 209 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:42,440 Speaker 1: what I mean. But with him being the leader of 210 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:46,440 Speaker 1: our relationship, I wasn't allowed to take the lead in 211 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 1: educating or leading conversations around that. And again ego thing, 212 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 1: and again I was playing a role. I was like, 213 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 1: let me just see what it's like right now, you know. 214 00:09:56,360 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 1: So it was like he was trifling with marriage, and 215 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:04,959 Speaker 1: the way that we did it was I let him 216 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:08,440 Speaker 1: do all the research in all of the planning for 217 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 1: the wedding and all that stuff, because he was like, 218 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 1: I want a research marriage before we jump into it. 219 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 5: And so he went and did a historical historical we 220 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 5: asked our episode. 221 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:22,560 Speaker 2: Yes I hate him. 222 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 5: Yes, he's a Rastafarian, Islamic, He's a spiritual. So it's 223 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:35,440 Speaker 5: crazy because the whole situation around him just being very 224 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 5: flighty around what he does in life, like he already 225 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 5: had money and I didn't. 226 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 2: Know that until my lover from Brooklyn told me that 227 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 2: his people in. 228 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:44,679 Speaker 1: Harlem told him, oh, your girl got married to some 229 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 1: rich dude, And I was like, is that a guest? 230 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 2: Did y'all know that? But I put two and two 231 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 2: together based on the properties and things. 232 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 1: That his family owned and managed in Harlem, and I 233 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:58,560 Speaker 1: was just like, Oh, what the But he didn't act 234 00:10:58,679 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 1: like it. 235 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 2: He didn't he didn't. 236 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 5: Act Can I ask you? I know you said you're 237 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 5: in therapy. Definitely that they like doing that, they like 238 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 5: acting like. I've met so many rich kids. 239 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 2: I would I would say. 240 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 3: The only person I know in my life that is 241 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 3: a black sheet that really got her own is Liz Goldwin. 242 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:20,200 Speaker 2: Yes, I love her, Liz. She really is like for it, 243 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:20,839 Speaker 2: like when we talked. 244 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:22,320 Speaker 3: When I look at pictures of her from the past, 245 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:26,080 Speaker 3: I'm like, wow, Now I really believe rich kids grow 246 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:28,959 Speaker 3: up and they just want to be rejective of that 247 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 3: because they're like, oh, well, it's not cool, it's not 248 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:32,840 Speaker 3: he nepotism. 249 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:34,720 Speaker 2: Black nepotism is great. 250 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 5: You just got a little taste of the Horrible Decisions Patreon. 251 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:39,679 Speaker 4: But why it's that there? 252 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:43,719 Speaker 5: Tap in for the full, uncut and way naster episodes 253 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 5: over on Patreon. 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Another problem in 262 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:17,200 Speaker 3: our lives. 263 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 2: In our lives is your listeners. 264 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:21,839 Speaker 3: I guess it's got to pretty much be a problem 265 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:23,960 Speaker 3: if you hit us up. But also we'll take some 266 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 3: other questions. Give us some co worker shit, some family 267 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 3: drama shit. I feel like it's always the romance in love. 268 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:31,199 Speaker 3: We know other stuff. 269 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 4: Listen. 270 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 5: It's because these folks be just waiting for a man, honey, 271 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:39,640 Speaker 5: or they be with a man too long and they 272 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 5: know there it's time to go. Speaking of that, y'all 273 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:45,199 Speaker 5: can read about that in our book Note Holds Barred, 274 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:48,680 Speaker 5: a dual manifesto of sexual exploration. 275 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 4: And power out now for you pus sass host. 276 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 5: But yeah, I agree, I would love to hear more, 277 00:12:54,720 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 5: like maybe scenarios about your work life, maybe friendship. I mean, 278 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 5: we know that this is the sex, dating and Relationship Pod. 279 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:06,440 Speaker 5: But god damn it, do you guys want to ask 280 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:10,440 Speaker 5: us questions about aliens? Do y'all care our thoughts on 281 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:15,440 Speaker 5: the democracy? What about like some hypotheticals like give us 282 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 5: something cute and fun, because goddamn, your relationships are depressing 283 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 5: the guys. 284 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:23,560 Speaker 3: That secretly listen, I would actually like them to be 285 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:26,319 Speaker 3: hitting us up for advice because what I realized over 286 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 3: the years as two women hosting a show, men don't 287 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 3: really want to. 288 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:33,079 Speaker 4: Say out loud they listening to decisions decisions. So if 289 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 4: you are listening, does use let alias say don't read 290 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 4: my name, in which we don't. We don't even read 291 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:39,319 Speaker 4: you bitch's names on you. 292 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 3: It's only if you're writy. I like when y'all do 293 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:44,319 Speaker 3: little adjectives like single and confused. 294 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 4: That's the shit I meant to. 295 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 5: Well, please send us your questions where you need advice, 296 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:57,559 Speaker 5: and you can send that to Decisions Pod at gmail 297 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 5: dot com. This one is interesting because the subject of 298 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:13,600 Speaker 5: this email, bitch. 299 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 4: You asking us, Why don't you just ask your nigga? Now? 300 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 5: The question for today is, oh, no, is my boyfriend gay? 301 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 4: It's because you live in Atlanta? Bitch. 302 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 5: All right, let's get into it. Girl gays live outside 303 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 5: of Atlanta. But here we go. Now, this one's a 304 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 5: little long, so bear with me. But that means that 305 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 5: there's a lot of details for us to dissect. So 306 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 5: let's get into it. 307 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 4: Hi, Mandy and Wheezy. 308 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 5: I recently got into a relationship and I'm wondering if 309 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 5: my boyfriend is gay. In January of twenty twenty five, 310 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 5: we matched on a dating app and quickly set up 311 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 5: a coffee day. I met him for coffee during my 312 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 5: lunch break from work and we hit it off. He 313 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 5: actually lived in another state and was in town for work. 314 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 5: After coffee, he asked if I would be open to 315 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 5: joining him for dinner that night, and I gladly said. 316 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 2: Yes, okay. 317 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 4: Dinner was great right out the gate. 318 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 5: Dinner was great, but he had to go back home 319 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 5: the next day, so we weren't able to spend much 320 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 5: more time together. After we went back home, we talked 321 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 5: via text and voiced chat every day. We had a 322 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 5: couple of calls over the phone, but he said he 323 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 5: wasn't much of a phone talker. I didn't mind since 324 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 5: the communication was so consistent. He came out to visit 325 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 5: for Valentine's Day and mentioned that he also had an interview. 326 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 5: I got him a small gift, but he didn't get 327 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 5: me anything. He felt bad and got me something from 328 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 5: a store we stopped at for Valentine's Day. We went 329 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 5: to dinner and hit a couple of bars, and he 330 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 5: asked for us to be exclusively in our relationship. I said, yes, 331 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 5: that's funny, that's how that's the time. I'm fraid I 332 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 5: got in my relationship this year. Well, you mean Valentine's 333 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 5: Valentine's Yeah, well the week before because I was going 334 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 5: to All Star Weekend. Anyways, Shortly after him going back 335 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:12,480 Speaker 5: home from his visit, he tells me he landed the 336 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 5: job and he will be moving to my town the 337 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 5: following month. 338 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 4: In March. 339 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 5: I was excited for the potential of this new relationship. 340 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 5: I was skeptical that this happened so quickly, but tried 341 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 5: to keep a positive outlook. He mentioned that back home 342 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 5: he had a roommate, which was a friend from college 343 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 5: that needed to get back on his feet because he 344 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 5: was an immigrant and a visa expired. At the end 345 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 5: of March, my boyfriend moved out here and got an 346 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 5: airbnb until he was able to get an apartment two 347 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 5: weeks later. I came to the apartment once and never 348 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 5: again because he said he didn't have any furniture. As 349 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 5: we continued to see each other, I started noticing that 350 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 5: he found men attractive by some of the comments he 351 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 5: made and one incident where he was clearly flirting with 352 00:16:57,520 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 5: a man and asked for his Instagram right in front 353 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:04,160 Speaker 5: of me. I tried to ask him about his sexuality 354 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:07,199 Speaker 5: and that topic was uncomfortable for him. He came from 355 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 5: a very religious family, so I figured that is where 356 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 5: the discomfort was and thought he might be bisexual, but 357 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:16,960 Speaker 5: not ready to speak about it. Regardless, flirting with another 358 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 5: person in front of me is disrespectful and it didn't 359 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:22,880 Speaker 5: sit with me well. We continue to spend every day 360 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 5: together until he went back home to get his belongings 361 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 5: to move to his new apartment. That's when everything changed. 362 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 5: His roommate from back home came to move with him 363 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:39,480 Speaker 5: into his one bedroom apartment, which I wasn't initially made 364 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:43,720 Speaker 5: aware of. I came over once to meet the guy, 365 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:47,200 Speaker 5: and it wasn't clear that he knew I was the girlfriend. 366 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:51,440 Speaker 5: He was showing me their plans and asking him that 367 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 5: I show him around town. I found this strange. I 368 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 5: asked my boyfriend, if he knew his friend was moving 369 00:17:57,560 --> 00:17:59,919 Speaker 5: with him, why not get a two bedroom instead of 370 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 5: one bedroom? 371 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:03,200 Speaker 4: He said, he isn't supposed to stay here very long. 372 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:05,879 Speaker 5: I then asked how long he had been living with 373 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:12,480 Speaker 5: him back home, and he replied nine years. All of 374 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:14,679 Speaker 5: the alarms started going off in my body, and I 375 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 5: thought to myself, this is his boyfriend and I am 376 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:21,879 Speaker 5: his beard. Ever since his boyfriend moved into town, we 377 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 5: have started seeing each other less and less the times 378 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 5: we do spend together. I paid more attention to him 379 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:31,200 Speaker 5: and noticed that he only checks out met I should 380 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:35,359 Speaker 5: have known better, because the intimacy EH wasn't there. He 381 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:38,360 Speaker 5: didn't like the tongue kiss, it would only give me pecks. 382 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:40,960 Speaker 4: And we've only had sex two times. 383 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:41,400 Speaker 2: Oh. 384 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 5: Both of those times, he couldn't keep it up, and 385 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:47,119 Speaker 5: at one point started talking about the gay guy we 386 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 5: previously met, whom he was farighting with. I was like, OMG, 387 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:55,199 Speaker 5: he is fantasizing about other men to try to be 388 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 5: aroused enough to have sex with me. I'd like to 389 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 5: hear your thoughts on whether or not you think he 390 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:03,080 Speaker 5: is gay, or whether or not his friend is actually 391 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 5: his gay life partner. 392 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:07,160 Speaker 4: And should I break up with him? Thanks so much? 393 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:09,360 Speaker 4: Love y'all. A beard for the. 394 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:16,359 Speaker 5: Boy singles in, confused, Well, she's in a relationship and confused. 395 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:17,600 Speaker 3: I don't. 396 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 4: But here's the thing. Sometimes, when. 397 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:25,919 Speaker 3: When I get and this is advice for anyone, this 398 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 3: is actually unsolicited advice. Sometimes when I think the worst 399 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:32,119 Speaker 3: even about somebody, and it could be someone I know, 400 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:34,679 Speaker 3: is the worst of a situation that I'm like, this is. 401 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:36,680 Speaker 4: A fuck nik, this is a person I've been burned 402 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 4: by before. I still am like, well, why would they 403 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:39,920 Speaker 4: want to do this? 404 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 3: Why would he want to have his boyfriend fake the relationship? 405 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:50,359 Speaker 4: Why would he want to get now does he need 406 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 4: the beard? 407 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 3: Like, if he's been living with this person so long, 408 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:56,160 Speaker 3: why would he be putting them in on this plan 409 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 3: to coerce you? 410 00:19:57,119 --> 00:19:58,919 Speaker 4: Like, I don't think it's a coersion. 411 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:02,360 Speaker 5: She mentioned, and that he comes from a strong religious background, 412 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 5: so she feels like that's where his discomfort lies. 413 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 4: It's also interesting to. 414 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:09,480 Speaker 5: Me that this is your boyfriend you are writing this. 415 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:12,359 Speaker 5: By the way, this is brand new. We just got 416 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:16,639 Speaker 5: this email at the end of September. So girl, you 417 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:19,680 Speaker 5: started dating him back in February. You met him in January, 418 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:24,119 Speaker 5: and you've only had sex twice. So to me, here's 419 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 5: my question. 420 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:26,360 Speaker 4: If you're. 421 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 5: Not bothered enough to already break up with him, are 422 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 5: you fine actually being a beard? 423 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 4: Are you fine being with a man that you find bisexual? 424 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:38,639 Speaker 5: You even said at the top of this letter you 425 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:42,919 Speaker 5: actually thought he was bisexual, and you still chose to 426 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 5: stay with him. Yes, flirting with other people, whether it's 427 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 5: a man or woman in front of you, you find disrespectful, 428 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 5: but you didn't seem turned off or completely disattracted to 429 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 5: him or unattracted to him. With the fact that he 430 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 5: was even flirting with a guy, I would have you 431 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:03,720 Speaker 5: actually asked the questions to yourself. This isn't for me 432 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:07,399 Speaker 5: to determine whether that man is his boyfriend or whether 433 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:10,480 Speaker 5: your boyfriend is gay. The question is are you fine 434 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:13,640 Speaker 5: with existing as a quote unquote beard to a man 435 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:18,159 Speaker 5: who may also have attractions and a potential relationship with 436 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 5: a man. Because to know that you're still with him 437 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 5: makes me feel like you're not that bothered by it. 438 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 5: So maybe this is your chance to actually have the conversation, 439 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 5: not questioning his relationship. But if you need more, I'm 440 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 5: assuming also you don't need more sex. However, he's showing 441 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 5: up has been enough, So I'm curious to know if 442 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:39,200 Speaker 5: maybe you just have to sit with yourself to know 443 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 5: what's being left out for you, because it's not his 444 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 5: sexuality that seems to be the problem at all. 445 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 3: So I'm starting to think maybe he's just like taking 446 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 3: a gay out of it. What if he isn't gay, 447 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:54,399 Speaker 3: what if he's asexual, Because sometimes people that are asexual 448 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:57,919 Speaker 3: genuinely do have the attraction to you. They want the intimacy, 449 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 3: they're able to perform and from antic scenarios so they 450 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:03,200 Speaker 3: can show up for you how you need in life. 451 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:06,160 Speaker 3: They can do all these things, but they're not necessarily 452 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:09,680 Speaker 3: going to want to fuck you. And Ah, a sexual 453 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 3: friend before that always had women think that he was gay, 454 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:15,160 Speaker 3: and it was like super frustrating, to the point where 455 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 3: even he was like, I really don't like men, but 456 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:20,639 Speaker 3: like the pressure that everyone's making you feel when you 457 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 3: don't want to be. 458 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:22,359 Speaker 4: Sexual is really heavy. 459 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 3: So I actually think the larger question is the sexual aspect. 460 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 4: I agree. 461 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:29,400 Speaker 5: I was about to say, damn, y'all know I would 462 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 5: date about sexual man, but so I was about to 463 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 5: say damn, what's worth your man being gay, your man 464 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:36,239 Speaker 5: not wanting to have sex, And I'm like, whoa, I 465 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:38,119 Speaker 5: definitely want you to fuck me. So I think I 466 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:40,440 Speaker 5: agree with you, bro like because to. 467 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 3: Me that even a gay nigga that's gonna end up 468 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 3: with you're gonna fuck like like it's just only twice 469 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:48,200 Speaker 3: from February to September. 470 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 4: It's just so. 471 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:52,679 Speaker 5: Then maybe the question is if you move to a 472 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:56,879 Speaker 5: conversation for him to admit that maybe he's bisexual or 473 00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 5: he has any sort of attraction to men, right. I 474 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 5: think to find out his level of sexual energy or 475 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 5: appetite comes from maybe seeing if he's actually had sex 476 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:13,480 Speaker 5: with men, and if so, hopefully getting to the point 477 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 5: where he can express how often he has sex with men, 478 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:17,880 Speaker 5: because in this point. 479 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:20,520 Speaker 3: He wasn't that excited, Like maybe he wasn't flirting with 480 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 3: the gay dude. 481 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 4: Maybe she's just so, what's the word? 482 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 3: Uh? When you're like, she's looking for something, Damn, I 483 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:31,919 Speaker 3: can't get this word. 484 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:36,480 Speaker 4: She's looking for something like damn. 485 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:38,200 Speaker 3: I feel like it's such a basic word. I'm gonna 486 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:39,679 Speaker 3: probably get it later tonight. 487 00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:44,920 Speaker 5: When you're so, oh my god, girl, and you know, bitch, 488 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:46,359 Speaker 5: I can't help you with the words. 489 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:49,120 Speaker 3: Okay, wait, hold on, it's the word when like you're 490 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 3: looking around suspicious. Oh okay, okay, I thay, she's so 491 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 3: suspicious about what the fuck is going on that maybe 492 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:57,119 Speaker 3: he wasn't flirting with the gay nigga. 493 00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 4: Maybe he just friendly ass nig like. 494 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:02,200 Speaker 3: I don't know, because could be like, if you really 495 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 3: are suspicious about something, let's just say it's even a 496 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 3: cheating guy, you're gonna start looking at every woman in 497 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 3: his life, the girl he works with, a cousin. You 498 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:14,879 Speaker 3: wna look at everybody because you're vicious. So at this point, 499 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 3: because you can't figure out why you're not having the 500 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:20,879 Speaker 3: volume of sex that you want, now you're looking at 501 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:25,040 Speaker 3: these other area in its life that may be completely innocent. 502 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:28,199 Speaker 3: We're just labeling the gay on there. Do you live 503 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 3: in Atlanta's sister, Yeah, gay is a lot. 504 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:33,919 Speaker 5: I mean well, I even don't even think where she 505 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:37,639 Speaker 5: lives matters because he moved. He moved to the city, 506 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:41,160 Speaker 5: so he was living he was living somewhere else. I'm 507 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:46,919 Speaker 5: curious to know to I'm not gonna lie. I just 508 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 5: don't think if only a couple, if only a couple 509 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:52,119 Speaker 5: months later, first off, he moves to another city and 510 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:55,320 Speaker 5: gets a one bedroom and has a guy move into 511 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:58,160 Speaker 5: the one bedroom. I think that's a lot like nigger 512 00:24:58,119 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 5: are y'all sleeping together at night? 513 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 3: Like I don't know one of my Okay, I gold 514 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:06,920 Speaker 3: you with her fucking cousin for like a year. 515 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:07,840 Speaker 4: That's family. 516 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:11,199 Speaker 5: A cousin is different than two people sleeping in the 517 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 5: sharing a room. 518 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:15,720 Speaker 4: Together because they had a two bedroom before. 519 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:19,680 Speaker 5: And so maybe they maybe the city that they moved 520 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:21,879 Speaker 5: to is more expensive and he could only get a 521 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 5: one bed. 522 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:24,120 Speaker 4: Bro, why did that need to move? That is kind 523 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:28,159 Speaker 4: of crazy. That's crazy, is it not? But I just 524 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:31,240 Speaker 4: don't think it's his boyfriend. Why don't you think that 525 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:32,920 Speaker 4: their boyfriends? Do you just not think? 526 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 5: Like, what makes based on all the information we got, 527 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:37,640 Speaker 5: what makes you think that's not his boyfriend? 528 00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:39,120 Speaker 4: Because this lead into a boyfriend. 529 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 2: To me, we're in twenty twenty five. 530 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:45,359 Speaker 4: Okay, one can be religious and one can be out. 531 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:49,439 Speaker 3: But it's pretty crazy to think that two people are 532 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 3: gonna be lying about the relationship. 533 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:52,679 Speaker 4: Well, so they're not lying, so no. 534 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:56,399 Speaker 5: She expressed that when she went to the house, he 535 00:25:56,600 --> 00:26:00,960 Speaker 5: seemed the roommate guy seemed oblivious to the fact that 536 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:04,159 Speaker 5: he even had a girlfriend and called the plants in 537 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 5: the house their plants. 538 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 4: So it's not that the roommate could be hiding at all. 539 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 3: It seems to be oblivious about the girlfriend is even bad. 540 00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:16,240 Speaker 4: I don't think that's bad, Like they've been living together 541 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:18,160 Speaker 4: nine years. Of course they're their plants. 542 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 3: But if there was, if it was his nigga, she 543 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:23,440 Speaker 3: would have been able to see something else. 544 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:26,439 Speaker 4: Like what if she was over the house. If it's 545 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:30,880 Speaker 4: two niggas in the closet. 546 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 3: This is hard because even though all roads lead to 547 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 3: gay and dick sucking, I'm just like, it can't. 548 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:44,000 Speaker 5: Be that, but all roads literally lead to that's his boyfriend. 549 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:47,360 Speaker 5: Yomana's gay insists you need to I'm not even gonna 550 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:49,680 Speaker 5: tell you to break up with him. Well, that's the thing. 551 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:51,440 Speaker 5: I'm not even gonna tell you to break up with him. 552 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:55,320 Speaker 5: That's why my advice was to that last question, what 553 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 5: do you want out of the relationship in are you 554 00:26:57,560 --> 00:26:59,879 Speaker 5: being fulfilled? And if this is a relationship that you 555 00:26:59,920 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 5: do want to keep intact, but you need more sex, 556 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:05,639 Speaker 5: you know, the conversation always is to me, talk to 557 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:08,439 Speaker 5: him about getting some other dick or whatever. 558 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 4: Else you want elsewhere? And see what his response is 559 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 4: to that. 560 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:16,400 Speaker 5: Because if this all happened in like March April, bitsch, 561 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:19,359 Speaker 5: just October, we in Q four hoe and you still 562 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:22,679 Speaker 5: with demand. You didn't even want a hot girl summer, 563 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:26,240 Speaker 5: you stayed with him thinking he was gay all summer. 564 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:28,920 Speaker 4: Maybe it's really not a real relationship. 565 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:32,879 Speaker 5: And hear me out, oh, because bitches do be delusional 566 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:37,200 Speaker 5: if it happened that fast, like did they even talk 567 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:37,680 Speaker 5: every day? 568 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 4: Like I have you got it? 569 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:41,199 Speaker 5: They met okay, they met on a they met on 570 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:45,959 Speaker 5: a dating app in January, met in person in January, 571 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:53,159 Speaker 5: met for coffee, then had dinner the same night. Limited communication, 572 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 5: and I see limited because even if it was consistent, 573 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:58,200 Speaker 5: I don't consider texting away you would get to know somebody. 574 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 5: His next visit was Valentine's Day. So even if y'all 575 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:07,680 Speaker 5: met on New Year's Eve, the most y'all knew each 576 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 5: other was six weeks before he said, be my girlfriend. 577 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 3: That's not crazy, though, he just I just think they 578 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 3: just changed. I don't know how they are, but I'm 579 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:18,720 Speaker 3: gonna be realal with you. I've met a lot okay, 580 00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 3: and men that be in relationships, But like. 581 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 4: But if a man. 582 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:25,600 Speaker 5: If a man asks you to be his girlfriend and 583 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:29,399 Speaker 5: to be exclusive, that actually does indicate that you're in 584 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 5: a relationship with that man, right saying. 585 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:33,920 Speaker 3: It's not a relationship in the way that we think 586 00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:37,199 Speaker 3: a relationship should be the way that most people are 587 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 3: in relationships. Is they're gearing to date for the long haul, 588 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:43,520 Speaker 3: for XYZ whatever. I feel like both of them aren't 589 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 3: taking this shit serious, like to be having sex twice 590 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 3: and not communicating about it. How real is your relationship, nigga? 591 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 3: You can't get an attitude twice before I bring it up? 592 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 5: What? Maybe they both a sexual? Because I don't see 593 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:01,480 Speaker 5: how do you? I don't see how well you've allowed 594 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:05,520 Speaker 5: two times in ten months for how how many times 595 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:06,800 Speaker 5: you done got your back blown out? 596 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:07,200 Speaker 4: Sis? 597 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:09,960 Speaker 3: It's just off, That's what I'm saying. They both just 598 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:10,520 Speaker 3: feeling off. 599 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:13,200 Speaker 5: Bitch Mabe and I think that she wants to be 600 00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:14,320 Speaker 5: an asexual beard. 601 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 4: I think she's fine with being a beard. I just 602 00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:17,600 Speaker 4: think she. 603 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 5: Needs to be proud in bear. She literally signed the 604 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:24,880 Speaker 5: email a beard to a boy. 605 00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:27,400 Speaker 4: I still think he a sexual. I don't know why. 606 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:29,000 Speaker 4: It's just the twice don't make sense. 607 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:32,360 Speaker 3: Like think about when you've like had interactions with bi 608 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 3: and man fucked about it. 609 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:36,160 Speaker 4: They they are them niggas. 610 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:40,600 Speaker 3: Fuck, That's what I'm saying, Like, bro, I got by 611 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 3: niggas be all my dick. 612 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:47,680 Speaker 5: They're almost an unhealthy amount of sexual bisexual men arc 613 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,040 Speaker 5: like well shit, bisexual women maybe too. 614 00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:52,080 Speaker 4: That's why we so God damn hoo. We've been inside 615 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 4: of you once. Why wouldn't he want to be eating 616 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:56,960 Speaker 4: you again? Also he did go again, just not again 617 00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 4: again and again. Yeah, something's off. 618 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 5: I really don't think to buy. I'm not gonna lie. 619 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:08,760 Speaker 5: This is one of those where sis. Please let us 620 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:11,160 Speaker 5: know how the conversation goes. I do want to know 621 00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:13,760 Speaker 5: if you can get down to the answers. Is that 622 00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:17,240 Speaker 5: his boyfriend? Have they been together for nine years? Are 623 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 5: they sleeping in the bed together? Is he asexual? And 624 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:24,320 Speaker 5: we'll find all of this out next time on dragon 625 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:27,800 Speaker 5: ball z. But no, seriously, please send it into us. 626 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:31,560 Speaker 5: Decisionspot at gmail dot com. Would love, love love. I'm 627 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:34,160 Speaker 5: gonna even respond to your email now, Bitch. We need 628 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:35,520 Speaker 5: the tea, we need the update. 629 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:39,120 Speaker 4: Give it to us. 630 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:41,360 Speaker 3: Because I ain't gonna be able to leave bitch until 631 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:42,080 Speaker 3: I find out. 632 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:45,920 Speaker 5: If your nigga, I need to know, I actually want 633 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 5: to know, and draw me your thoughts below. 634 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:49,080 Speaker 4: Again. 635 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 5: If you are on Patreon, you get to see this 636 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 5: full video, so go ahead and drop your thoughts if 637 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,760 Speaker 5: you're on Patreon. If not, head on over to our 638 00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:00,360 Speaker 5: social channels and let you let us know what you 639 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:01,400 Speaker 5: think needs to happen here. 640 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:03,760 Speaker 4: Should she break up with him or she should she 641 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:04,280 Speaker 4: just live. 642 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:08,200 Speaker 5: Her best life as a beer Let us know, okay, 643 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 5: and we'll see y'all next week. 644 00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:18,520 Speaker 4: Bye,