1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:08,640 Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast. We are essential employees. Yeah, 2 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:11,000 Speaker 1: we are welcome to another edition of the Around the 3 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 1: NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Ansis and I'm joined 4 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 1: in the city filled with heroes in Bunker's Mark Sessler, 5 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 1: Chris Westling, and Gregg Rosletal. What is up boys? Hey? Dan? 6 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 1: Happy Monday? I mean is it? Mondays are rough in 7 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:36,920 Speaker 1: the COVID nineteen era, especially with kids, and they they 8 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 1: sense it. There's blood in the water. They know that 9 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 1: you're gonna have a lot of work to do, um 10 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 1: if you're a working person like my wife and I, 11 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 1: but they still want to be entertained. And then you 12 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 1: add in some rainfall outside here in Los Angeles and 13 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 1: the caged animal feeling is real. I was thinking, Dan, 14 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 1: how different every parents experience is going to be depending 15 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 1: on like how old they are, Like I'm happy that 16 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 1: mine are a little older than your yours are. How 17 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 1: old are they five and five? See that that's a 18 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:10,959 Speaker 1: tricky one, Like marks are a little bit older. Like 19 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 1: if they if you had kids in their teens or 20 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 1: they're like fourteen, they're just gonna be leaving you alone. 21 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 1: If they're younger, it would seem like it'd be the younger, 22 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 1: the harder. Yeah, I mean, I I've essentially we we've 23 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 1: given up and we've realized that we've just raised during 24 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 1: the process of raising two obsessed gamers who once this 25 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 1: all wraps, will not leave the house anyways. They've given 26 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 1: up any inceptive outdoor exercise or healthy diet. They just 27 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 1: walk around in virtual reality masks from We're not far 28 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, it's that is the next step for 29 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 1: this household. Uh, generational divide. I have a nephew who's 30 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 1: in his early twenties now, and when he was about eighteen, 31 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 1: I was one of those gross adults who asked him 32 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 1: what he wanted to do with his life, and he 33 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 1: basically said, the only thing he likes doing is playing 34 00:01:57,520 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 1: video games, So he's got to find a way to 35 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 1: make money at that. He's yet to do it, and 36 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 1: I don't think he's got a job, so it's video 37 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 1: games all day. I thought that story was going in 38 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 1: a different direction. He's like, Yeah, I just play video 39 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 1: games and that's what I like to do. He's a millionaire. Yeah, millionaire. 40 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:18,360 Speaker 1: He just got seriously drop kicked on an international podcast. 41 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 1: By the way, he's got to be feeling some sort 42 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 1: of quiver in the and I just think that's that's 43 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 1: a generational thing. Your kids are part of that generation too. 44 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 1: You don't get it, Uncle West. I just want to live. 45 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 1: Get off my back, drunk friends, headphones. Um, let's circle 46 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 1: back before we get to the news that we should 47 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 1: connect with a fun game of text or tweet. On 48 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 1: Friday show, Mark and Erica both challenged West, Greg and 49 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:51,800 Speaker 1: myself uh to blindly pick a text or a tweet. Um. 50 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:56,919 Speaker 1: Greg texted Peter Schreeger. Peter Schreeger, by the way, will 51 00:02:56,960 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 1: be on our program tomorrow catching up Pete the shrike 52 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 1: Bomb and also his his mock draft. They're gonna start 53 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:07,240 Speaker 1: this week paying some more attention to the upcoming draft, 54 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:10,800 Speaker 1: which obviously makes sense. Um, Wes, you had done a 55 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 1: tweet about ice cream. Let's start there. Wes, you had 56 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:18,119 Speaker 1: tweeted about ice cream, your favorite flavor flavors, and then 57 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:22,640 Speaker 1: a top five countdown, ending with um, you were not 58 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 1: into dairy? Uh? No, doi something like that. No, I 59 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 1: don't do dairy anymore. Yeah, So, Wes, what was the 60 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 1: feedback that you got? Uh? One guy called me whiter 61 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 1: than mayonnaise. Um. A lot of people expressed surprise that 62 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 1: my taste was so horrible. Um, apparently not a lot 63 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 1: of people like Rocky Road ice cream. Rocky Road was fine, 64 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 1: but yeah, there are The responses were all over in 65 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 1: the map, and then a few people, you know, of course, 66 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 1: after they listened to the show, said oh that you know, 67 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:56,119 Speaker 1: that explains that this is fun. What what made your 68 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 1: ice cream? Was it just the topic itself of the 69 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 1: tweet that made you white white? Or the mayonnaise or 70 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 1: was it the flavors that you selected? Did you get 71 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 1: any more context on that? I deduced that it was 72 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 1: the combination of the lame flavors involved and the statement 73 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 1: done none of the above, I don't do dare you? Yeah? 74 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:17,720 Speaker 1: Sort of like an overly precious like vegan anthem. Yeah, 75 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:21,839 Speaker 1: that's getting it. Wasn't them like pecan praylin or something 76 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 1: like a year old flavor. Yeah, it was a bunch 77 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:26,839 Speaker 1: of flavors that like your grandma would eat. I did 78 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 1: read that tweet and the first thing that came to 79 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 1: mind was the whites are at it again? So Greg, 80 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:36,160 Speaker 1: what about you? Did shrag bomb reply to you? Well? 81 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 1: I was just thinking should we save that for tomorrow show? 82 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:41,719 Speaker 1: Because um, we could do well, I'll say it here 83 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 1: and that I have not told them that that was 84 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 1: I have still not told them there was a game. 85 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 1: We did continue texting afterwards, but we can save it 86 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 1: for tomorrow. He can learn on the show totally backwards 87 00:04:54,600 --> 00:05:00,120 Speaker 1: and now he thinks stubly of Greg Mark, yours was 88 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:02,600 Speaker 1: like a tweet that it was no different than anything 89 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:05,480 Speaker 1: you've ever really done, right, So I imagine it wasn't 90 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:09,920 Speaker 1: a huge amount of feedback on it, right. Well, so, yeah, 91 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 1: Erica crafted my tweet and it was about essentially, um, 92 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:18,360 Speaker 1: leaving the current society to group up in sort of 93 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 1: a nudist colony with no possessions and no one's there. Not. 94 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 1: Not a lot of people bumped on that, which predictive, 95 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 1: and I think, you know, in reverse, the one I 96 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:30,480 Speaker 1: created for Erica was similar, but um, you know, she 97 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:34,280 Speaker 1: asked anyone to send me unicorn a unicorn symbol as 98 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 1: a as an affirmative, and I did. My entire weekend 99 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:44,280 Speaker 1: was just like insane unicorn emojis and gifts. Jeff's brand 100 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:48,360 Speaker 1: You've built, Mark, that joining the nudist colony is right on, 101 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 1: right on brand. But there again, well it was again 102 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 1: it's and I think we've experienced this in in all 103 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:59,480 Speaker 1: of it, it was like um response from males wanting 104 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:01,159 Speaker 1: to go to the new dist colony. So I don't 105 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 1: know what's what's happening this blind idea, Ricky. I can't 106 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 1: remember what yours. Mine was about, like powerful women everywhere, 107 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:10,480 Speaker 1: but like men just like eat and play video games 108 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 1: and eat fast food. Getting attacked by barstool Nation for that, 109 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 1: I got attacked by a lot of dudes, and like 110 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:18,360 Speaker 1: people were basically like, why would you want to like 111 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 1: gender stereotype when we're in a pandemic? Like what, like 112 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:25,679 Speaker 1: this isn't that, this isn't the time to liken. Someone 113 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 1: asked if your mercedes? Yeah yeah, and someone else was 114 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:32,239 Speaker 1: like someone else was like wow, like I just lost 115 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 1: so much respect for you. And then they tweeted again 116 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:37,040 Speaker 1: They're like, ha ha, just listen to the podcast like 117 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:41,160 Speaker 1: my bad. I was like, okay, cool, Like I kept 118 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:44,360 Speaker 1: a tweet up though, I mean whatever, My mind into 119 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 1: a legitimate homework assignment and it was Mark had had 120 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:53,600 Speaker 1: me send out a tweet saying I've been reflective during 121 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:56,480 Speaker 1: these times and I wanted to hear from all the listeners. 122 00:06:56,680 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 1: And I only realized that after the show that UM, 123 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 1: and it's starting to go through the d m s 124 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:05,040 Speaker 1: which started flowing like a waterfall that a lot of 125 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:09,239 Speaker 1: people then provided heartfelt responses to that. Uh, and then 126 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 1: maybe felt a little dumb after the show came out, 127 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 1: which I didn't like that. I felt like I was 128 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 1: being a jerk. I didn't think of that in the moment. 129 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 1: So I did make the effort. I've responded to every 130 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 1: single person. It took me all weekend. It was literally 131 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 1: in the hundreds. Uh. And I had to say it 132 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 1: went from Idaho to Iceland, Belgium, to Germany, Ireland, to Scotland, Australia, Canada, 133 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 1: Mexico and of course England, who are certified hashtag mad 134 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 1: for it. UM. It is amazing um our listenership from 135 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 1: a global standpoint. Um, how passionate you guys are overseas. 136 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 1: I mean, we got plenty of United States people, but 137 00:07:55,840 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 1: it was by far a majority of UM listeners overseas 138 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 1: or in Canada, in Mexico. And this will not come 139 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 1: as a surprise. I'm gonna guess somewhere in the neighborhood 140 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 1: of four hundred or five d tms, one woman one 141 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 1: that's similar to the breakdown at our at our live shows, 142 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 1: except that the differences life shows we get a few 143 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 1: more because there's dates I don't know, I don't know 144 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 1: what's going on at the last but not last time 145 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 1: they go on a date. And yes, while it was 146 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 1: not something I would have typically sent out, I'm glad 147 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 1: Mark that you did it or chose that because it 148 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:38,960 Speaker 1: was really cool UM hearing from the listeners. So many 149 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 1: of them, UM had stories, stories about what's going on 150 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:46,080 Speaker 1: in their life and and hardships, uh and what the 151 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 1: podcast is meant uh to them, people who are on 152 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 1: the front lines of this COVID nineteen pandemic that UM 153 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:56,440 Speaker 1: are working all day and just use our show as 154 00:08:56,440 --> 00:09:00,440 Speaker 1: something to wind down from. UM amazing some of the stories. Oh, 155 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 1: I was happy to be in contact with everybody. I 156 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:05,959 Speaker 1: don't think I'll be doing that every weekend, but it was. 157 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:09,200 Speaker 1: It was a cool experience and again we are very 158 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:12,440 Speaker 1: lucky to have you guys as listeners. Well credit to 159 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:16,080 Speaker 1: you for you know, not just using the out which 160 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:17,679 Speaker 1: you would have been able to do an hour or 161 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:19,719 Speaker 1: so later and say sorry, not going to reply to 162 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:22,200 Speaker 1: any of you, uh, clown cell Well, that's why I 163 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 1: was brilliant mark, because if I would have done that, 164 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:28,080 Speaker 1: I would have been just an A plus jerk. Because 165 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:31,320 Speaker 1: some once you see some of these messages to just 166 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 1: blow it off as part of a podcast segment. I 167 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 1: don't think that was an option quite frankly. I mean, 168 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 1: when I can add fifteen or sixteen hours of hardcore 169 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:42,560 Speaker 1: online labor to your weekend, I want to do that. 170 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:44,839 Speaker 1: At one point, Emily and I were laying side by 171 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 1: side with two laptops. She was reading them to me 172 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 1: and I was dictating answers to her while I was 173 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 1: doing my own answers on my laptop. It was it 174 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:57,680 Speaker 1: was that hardcore in terms of the task factory. Was 175 00:09:57,720 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 1: Emily impressed. I mean, seeing all these d m's come 176 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 1: in for you, that's kind of cool. I wish she 177 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 1: was more. I wish she was more impressed. She doesn't. 178 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 1: She seemed she enjoyed doing it. I will give her that. 179 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 1: And my wife is amazing, and she um basically took 180 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 1: on the job with me. But there was no point 181 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:17,839 Speaker 1: where she like closed the laptop and was like, wow, 182 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:19,959 Speaker 1: you guys really make a difference, which I was kind 183 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:22,200 Speaker 1: of hoping at some point that happened. But she was 184 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 1: just doing the work. She was cranking. What did the 185 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:27,960 Speaker 1: female right to you? I'd like to know, is mark single? 186 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:31,200 Speaker 1: I believe was That's not I'm sure that's not what 187 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 1: it was. I don't recall again there were many of them, 188 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 1: but uh, that was common man. Ranking has never been higher. 189 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 1: It is soaring right now. All right, I mean, I'll 190 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:42,439 Speaker 1: take that. I'll take that. I did get some replies 191 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 1: along those lines, but that was not the intention of 192 00:10:44,559 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 1: the exercise. Its Um, all right, let's do some news. 193 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:12,119 Speaker 1: The beautiful cover of the Graybeards theme by Danny Everett 194 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 1: UM shout out to Danny uh using backing choir there, 195 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:20,319 Speaker 1: which is you know, pretty uh hardcore. And I want 196 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 1: to point out just a reminder of how crazy and 197 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 1: different this uh season offseason is, obviously with COVID nineteen 198 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 1: and how that's affected the free agent market. Usually, by 199 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:34,319 Speaker 1: a week after the Graybeards article comes out at NFL 200 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 1: dot Com, the roster has already been picked apart. I'm 201 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 1: looking at this list. I'm sure there's been a couple 202 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 1: of guys, but for the most part, the free agent 203 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 1: market is just kind of ground to a halt, and 204 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:49,720 Speaker 1: almost everyone here, if not every single guy uh is 205 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:52,200 Speaker 1: still on the market a week later. So obviously things 206 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 1: the way things have set up, with the inability to 207 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:59,319 Speaker 1: for players to travel, physicals, things of that nature. Um, 208 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 1: whenever do get back to normal, hopefully sooner rather than later. Uh, 209 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 1: there's gonna be a flurry of signings that in the 210 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 1: past would have already been done by now. So that's 211 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 1: coming up on the horizon. Yeah. I wonder if that's 212 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 1: partly because of the compensatory pick formula or partly Okay, 213 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 1: let's sign our priority guys. And then once you got 214 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 1: about a week into free agency, the world already seemed 215 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 1: different than when it started out free agency. And I 216 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 1: feel like like every business they're just pressing pause for now, 217 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 1: and those players might lose out a little bit. I mean, 218 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 1: it's not like you need them in the building to 219 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:35,320 Speaker 1: attend meetings, so they can't do anything anyway. So why 220 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:38,080 Speaker 1: not see him in the in flesh before you hand 221 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 1: over the money? All right, let's get to the news. 222 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:43,960 Speaker 1: The first one this was a report from our own 223 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 1: Judy Batista Um who reported this on Monday that the 224 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 1: past interference replay, which was in effect in twenty nineteen 225 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 1: and was, you know, really not received very well, didn't 226 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:04,439 Speaker 1: go very well at all. Uh, that will, according to Judy, 227 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:09,560 Speaker 1: almost certainly not be extended into So it was set 228 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 1: up as a one year trial run, and at least 229 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 1: in the format it is now, Greg, it is not 230 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 1: going to come back. According to Judy's reporting, she didn't 231 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 1: say it with certainty, but almost certainly. Uh, it's gonna 232 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:25,559 Speaker 1: be one and done for the instant replay, Well, yeah, 233 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 1: we know Judy is talking to people at the top 234 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:30,559 Speaker 1: to get that that info. The news would have already 235 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:32,679 Speaker 1: happened because we would have finished the owners meeting by 236 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:34,959 Speaker 1: now and they would have talked about it. And West 237 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 1: West was one of the first people that I heard 238 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:40,680 Speaker 1: nationally certainly on our podcast saying he didn't think it 239 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:44,680 Speaker 1: was gonna be back. And I'm I'm surprised. Um, maybe 240 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 1: they do find another way to do some sort of interference. 241 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 1: They have the sky Judge thing happening this year. But 242 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:52,719 Speaker 1: it is kind of amazing that this is going to 243 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 1: turn out to be a one year crash and burn. 244 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 1: What is this? What is the sky Judge? I missed 245 00:13:56,760 --> 00:14:01,840 Speaker 1: this entirely. I don't really know, you know, and omnipotent 246 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:06,040 Speaker 1: Um Ruler about lodged about two yards above the field. 247 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 1: That we don't understand where it comes from. But it's 248 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:10,679 Speaker 1: never wrong. You said it, Greg, like everyone knew. That's 249 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 1: why I asked that. Well, yeah, it's it's an extra 250 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 1: replay official. I think that can that can um, that 251 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:18,720 Speaker 1: can help out and and buzz in. But that's not 252 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 1: specifically for past interference. It would be like if you're 253 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 1: sitting at home and you have advantage of all these 254 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 1: replay angles. They picked the smartest viewer at home and 255 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 1: he gets to make all the decisions as these are, 256 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 1: except he's sitting in the stadium, not at home. And 257 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 1: I thought the idea in general UM was a noble one. 258 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 1: And of course it came after the Nickel Robie Coleman 259 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 1: p I and the two thousand eighteen NFC Championship game. 260 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 1: But it just, yeah, it just didn't work. And I 261 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 1: wonder because it makes me think of instant replay, and 262 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 1: older NFL fans will remember that they tried replay a 263 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 1: couple of times in the early nineties. Didn't work. Uh, 264 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 1: and well maybe be it was one of the time 265 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 1: the early nineties they tried it, it didn't work, They 266 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:05,400 Speaker 1: got rid of it and then it came back a 267 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 1: second time instant replay. I still think that's probably something 268 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 1: that happens with this as well, but they might have 269 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 1: to go underground for a while. Mark, I'm curious. So 270 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 1: you think, um for them to come up with a 271 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 1: different way to do it, because there's no way they're 272 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 1: just gonna bring it back similar to what it was 273 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 1: in En. I just think it makes sense that you 274 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:29,720 Speaker 1: don't leave yourself open to what we saw in the 275 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 1: playoff games that basically triggered this, that you these disastrous 276 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 1: talking point miss calls. But my other side of his, 277 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 1: I think it just creates this shaky tension where refs 278 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 1: are No one really believes anything that a referee does 279 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 1: at this point at all. I can't think of a 280 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 1: profession on the planet, um, you know, outside of a 281 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 1: certain truly dangerous tasks, and I would not want to 282 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 1: be a ref. I just there's no upside. You can 283 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 1: make a hundred correct calls in a row and then 284 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 1: you're at the center of some total technical meltdown where 285 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 1: your word look ridiculous and it's like again, it's just 286 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 1: the same old like refs. The refs are losing here too, 287 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 1: and they just but also football needs more. I mean, 288 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 1: it's just it needs to be better officiated because it's 289 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 1: too embarrassing when these calls go south. I think eventually 290 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 1: the sky judge is gonna be the solution and the 291 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 1: biggest problem right now. And this was the same thing 292 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 1: with the catch roal. I think viewers understand that in 293 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 1: real time action, officials are gonna miss some calls. What 294 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 1: they don't understand is taking five minutes to review a 295 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 1: call and still getting it wrong, which is what both 296 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 1: the catch roll and the past interference role did. It 297 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 1: messed with the integrity of the game and in addition 298 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 1: to slowing it down and other news, Oh my goodness 299 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 1: on that. You know who we have to get on 300 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 1: the show, Andrew Marshants and haven't we done enough? Uh? 301 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 1: Conversations on the show entirely based off the reporting of 302 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 1: the New York Post Media sports media guy Andrew marshand 303 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 1: We should have multiple Monday night football talk with him. 304 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:06,680 Speaker 1: This week. Let's do all right, Ricky, Let's get on 305 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 1: Andrew Marshanda on the horn, Uh for the podcast this 306 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 1: way this week? Maybe Yeah, I'll get right on it. Great. 307 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:17,159 Speaker 1: That means I will be doing that in about an hour. Um, 308 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 1: here's what Marsian has the latest on the ESPN Monday 309 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:23,480 Speaker 1: Night football situation under the headline, Now this you know 310 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 1: what NFL dot com can learn from the New York 311 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:30,879 Speaker 1: Post when it comes to headlines. ESPN's awkward Drew brees 312 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 1: Chase isn't stopping after fifty million dollars Saints Steel. Now 313 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:38,359 Speaker 1: I'm in I'm reading this story. Um, this is the 314 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:41,719 Speaker 1: report for Marshaan that Breeze, despite resigning with the Saints, 315 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:45,240 Speaker 1: is still someone that ESPN covets and someone they want 316 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:47,679 Speaker 1: to They would hope to lock into some type of 317 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 1: deal even before his playing games are over so that 318 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 1: he can go straight from the field to the Monday 319 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 1: Night Football booth and give them the name brand star 320 00:17:57,440 --> 00:18:00,080 Speaker 1: that they've been craving for a long time now. But 321 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 1: because Breeze is not ready to retire yet, uh, they 322 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:08,160 Speaker 1: for the time being have an I their sight set 323 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:12,720 Speaker 1: on a group comprised of Steve Levy, Lewis Reddick, and 324 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:17,160 Speaker 1: Dan Orlovsky. According to Marciaan, they've emerged as the top 325 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:20,879 Speaker 1: candidates for h next season's Monday Night Football booth, but 326 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:23,359 Speaker 1: that could be a short term answer if that's what 327 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:26,200 Speaker 1: they do go with because Brees is the guy they 328 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:30,440 Speaker 1: truly covet. Mark Cecil your thoughts, well, I just find 329 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 1: it again. It's the same thing a little bit with 330 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 1: Peyton Manning. I I've never has anyone heard Drew Brees 331 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 1: utter of a syllable um in in the idea of 332 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:43,199 Speaker 1: wanting to become a broadcaster. If anything, I feel like 333 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:46,720 Speaker 1: he's not someone who loves the media to begin with 334 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:49,480 Speaker 1: the Lewis Riddicks side of it, I think he'd be 335 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:52,439 Speaker 1: very intriguing. Same with Roulovsky. But Breeze, it's like you're 336 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 1: chasing after Romo part two. But someone else tell me 337 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:59,240 Speaker 1: that he that why why he'd be a sensational shoe 338 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:01,400 Speaker 1: in on Monday night football. I don't. I don't see it. 339 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 1: And there's a lot of directions to go with this. 340 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 1: But the one one thing that stood out to me 341 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 1: just with Breeze was hearing this report on top of 342 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:13,879 Speaker 1: Sean Payton yesterday when he spoke to the media. I 343 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:17,879 Speaker 1: think it was a local radio calling two thousand, twenty 344 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:21,720 Speaker 1: Breezes last season and it not being followed up on 345 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 1: by the host. He just he sort of just threw 346 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:26,639 Speaker 1: it out there and you didn't know if he was 347 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:29,480 Speaker 1: just like kind of saying it but not meaning it. Um. 348 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 1: But then this report, and then if you look at 349 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 1: Breezes contract where it's all guaranteed in the first year, 350 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:37,440 Speaker 1: nothing guaranteed in the second. That's at least one takeaway 351 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 1: from from this for me is that maybe there is 352 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:42,679 Speaker 1: a feeling that this really Breeze is going into this 353 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:45,640 Speaker 1: season with the intention that he has done after. That's 354 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:48,880 Speaker 1: pretty wild, because yes, we know how NFL contracts work. 355 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 1: They're inherently ridiculous. But he signed a two year deal 356 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 1: like a month ago. But that helps, it helps the 357 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:58,640 Speaker 1: cap so and he's been doing stuff like that in general, right, 358 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 1: I just mean more of the idea that you could 359 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 1: make that announcement and then a few weeks later the 360 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 1: head coach is saying it's his last season. It just 361 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:07,680 Speaker 1: it just seems so silly the way the contract world 362 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:10,959 Speaker 1: works in the NFL. Tony Romo is the exception. I mean, 363 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 1: we've seen guys. The expectations for Boom Ossias and Tiki 364 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 1: Barber were even higher than they were for Tony Romo 365 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:19,159 Speaker 1: and they were out after a year or two. I 366 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 1: just you can't just assume that guys are gonna be 367 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:24,399 Speaker 1: great in the booth. Right, what if Nate Peterman is 368 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 1: quietly the best analysts sitting out there and we just 369 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 1: because you want to grab like this a lister, Uh, 370 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 1: it's gonna be It could be extremely disappointing at Breeze 371 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 1: one year at of football went and flopped on national 372 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 1: television every Monday Night. I mean, that would be very disappointing. 373 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 1: But that part of the whole Monday night football and mystique, 374 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 1: if you want to call it, that, is that they 375 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 1: want the big star and and Breeze if nothing is gone. 376 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:52,880 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I mean that, I understand where you come from. 377 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:55,680 Speaker 1: On that Monday night football used to be the primetime game. 378 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 1: It's lumped in with a group of games, and it's 379 00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 1: not even the premier game acording to the NFL schedule makers. 380 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:03,919 Speaker 1: But that's not the way ESPN looks at it. They 381 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 1: look at it as one of their most precious brands 382 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:10,480 Speaker 1: and a major ratings monster for them still to this day, 383 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 1: and they want that big star and Nate Peterman as 384 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 1: good as he would be. They think that ratings are 385 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:17,640 Speaker 1: gonna be better with a big name. Now, you could 386 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 1: then discuss, well are they do They have this whole 387 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:23,679 Speaker 1: thing wrong. Stop trying to chase a big fish and 388 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:26,159 Speaker 1: just get the best guy. But that's not how the 389 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 1: machine seems to operate. They've had it wrong for a 390 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 1: few years now. And the mystique isn't there, not because 391 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 1: of the games. The mystique isn't there because the way 392 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 1: ESPN runs their program, well, they might be changing it, 393 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:38,439 Speaker 1: and the and the timing of all of this is 394 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:41,879 Speaker 1: really interesting because there's a belief that it's going to 395 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 1: go back to ABC and ESPN, you like, they'll they'll 396 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:47,680 Speaker 1: put it on both networks, but it will be on 397 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:52,120 Speaker 1: ABC maybe starting in two um and that these next 398 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 1: this next year or two is this strange in between 399 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:57,920 Speaker 1: and so you could get Breeze in the building. The 400 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:01,359 Speaker 1: article indicates they might even try to sign him, you know, 401 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:04,399 Speaker 1: before the season starts, so that he's locked in, so 402 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:07,640 Speaker 1: that when they're selling themselves and part of this big package, 403 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 1: all these TV deals are up, that he's going to 404 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:12,880 Speaker 1: be part of it moving forward, which makes it very 405 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:17,720 Speaker 1: strange for whatever they do for regardless, like this report indicated, 406 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:19,760 Speaker 1: it might be Riddick and Orlovsky, or it might be 407 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:22,399 Speaker 1: Riddick or Orlovsky and they and they choose one or 408 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:27,840 Speaker 1: the other. But it's very awkward and seemingly counterproductive into 409 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 1: a season with those guys knowing that might be it 410 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:32,160 Speaker 1: for them. Yeah. No, I was just about to say, 411 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 1: there's a roman colisseum vibe to the the whole thing 412 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:36,880 Speaker 1: where it's like you're high or the three of you, 413 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 1: only two of you will have the job next year maybe, 414 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 1: but one of you will almost certainly be gone. That 415 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 1: seems like a tricky situation, but I guess if you're 416 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 1: those guys, it's still such a great opportunity that you 417 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 1: probably take it and assume ESPN won't kick you out 418 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 1: the door entirely if they decide to move on from you. 419 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 1: What happens if Lewis Riddick shines as many expect him 420 00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:59,400 Speaker 1: to do in that role, and you know, whether it's 421 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:02,200 Speaker 1: him or or or low Sky are pulled from the 422 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:05,480 Speaker 1: lineup for a guy whose face we recognize because he 423 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 1: was in a football helmet the year before, and the 424 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 1: production totally it's not equal to what it was before. 425 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 1: I just you know, to me, this is the whole 426 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 1: thing feels like confused, like confusion and confused thinking from 427 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 1: what we're hearing, you know, the word that comes to 428 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:21,639 Speaker 1: mind from me mark desperation. Yeah, I think they're like 429 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 1: they they they know that they need to hit a 430 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:28,399 Speaker 1: home run next time around, but their plans don't suggest, uh, 431 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:31,239 Speaker 1: any real clear thinking on how to hit the home run. Well. 432 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:34,159 Speaker 1: They also apparently kind of the other option would be 433 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 1: using their top college duo, which is Chris Fowler and 434 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:39,920 Speaker 1: Kirk curb Street, which also doesn't seem to make sense 435 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:42,880 Speaker 1: because then you're hurting your college, that your college coverage, 436 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 1: and who wants the college guys doing the pro games? 437 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:50,359 Speaker 1: But what if there is in college football? There's also 438 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:53,680 Speaker 1: another thought that ABC SPN might be, you know, trying 439 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:56,320 Speaker 1: to get two packages of games in this next deal, 440 00:23:56,440 --> 00:24:00,600 Speaker 1: and so then in Theory and Orlovsky, you know, and 441 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:03,679 Speaker 1: Steve in who was it Steve Levy combination might be 442 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:06,160 Speaker 1: doing games on this other package that they're getting. There's 443 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:08,360 Speaker 1: there's a lot out there, a lot to breakdown. That's 444 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:11,400 Speaker 1: all we need, marsh And on the show, Let's move 445 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 1: on back to NFL league matters and a memo sent 446 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 1: to the teams. On Monday, Roger Goodell announced the draft 447 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:23,639 Speaker 1: will be conducted. Here's the exact wording entirely outside of 448 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 1: their facilities and in a fully virtual format. So let's 449 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 1: get those um skin Amax VR masks away from the 450 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:36,440 Speaker 1: Sessler children and put them on the heads of gms 451 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:41,159 Speaker 1: because the draft is ready to cook. Mark, I know 452 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:44,360 Speaker 1: you were really enjoying the comedy that was coming from 453 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:48,199 Speaker 1: this story on Twitter. Well, I would fully get it that. 454 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:51,159 Speaker 1: You know, you're gonna have a lot of wise acres 455 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 1: out there pitching their humor about uh, you know, this 456 00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:57,399 Speaker 1: GM has never used a computer or he doesn't know 457 00:24:57,440 --> 00:24:59,920 Speaker 1: how to plug in his you know, dial up. I mean, 458 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:03,360 Speaker 1: it's it's inevitable and everyone's stuck at home, and so 459 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:07,359 Speaker 1: it's it's just magnified, uh all, I'd say. And I 460 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:09,920 Speaker 1: think that there is. It is interesting. The last year 461 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:11,880 Speaker 1: I think I had a sandwich bet that a team 462 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:14,480 Speaker 1: would miss a draft pick um, and now that is 463 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:18,640 Speaker 1: tangibly an option if something weird happened to some team 464 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:21,040 Speaker 1: out there. I think it's reading like Peter King's column 465 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:23,520 Speaker 1: from today, that these gms and guys that are couch 466 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 1: at home right now are dealing with what a lot 467 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:27,440 Speaker 1: of us are dealing with. You're trying to run a 468 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 1: high octane um business while kids are like throwing baseballs 469 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:33,960 Speaker 1: against the bedroom door, and like you know, and dogs 470 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:36,920 Speaker 1: are barking, and there's fights between animals and children while 471 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 1: you're essentially trying to get the cults trapped up and running. 472 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 1: So it's more interesting than ever before. But I mean, 473 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:44,919 Speaker 1: tons of companies run this way. I don't I just 474 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 1: don't expect it to be total armageddon. I'm gonna assume 475 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:51,240 Speaker 1: I could be wrong, but because there's there's millions and 476 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:53,200 Speaker 1: millions of dollars and jobs on the line with the 477 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 1: draft that the NFL would probably DeCamp high level. I 478 00:25:57,640 --> 00:25:59,680 Speaker 1: hope this is the answer, but I you never know. 479 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 1: High level I t dudes to each of the locations, 480 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:06,879 Speaker 1: so the person the GM, like a Gettleman type, is 481 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:11,439 Speaker 1: not messing with his fifty six K modem uh furiously 482 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:14,120 Speaker 1: with the giants up next on the clock. I I 483 00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:16,960 Speaker 1: imagine they'll they're gonna have these things taken care of. 484 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:20,240 Speaker 1: But it is, like you said, Mark, a juicy subplot 485 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:22,639 Speaker 1: to track. Will there be more wiggle room when it 486 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 1: comes to the clock and what and if there are 487 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:28,439 Speaker 1: technical difficulties or will not? Will be like a no 488 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:30,359 Speaker 1: holds barred. You know, if you miss your pick, you 489 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:32,320 Speaker 1: miss your pick. I guess it adds a little juice 490 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 1: to the proceedings. I want, I want some cameras in 491 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:40,480 Speaker 1: the house for the uh the animals versus children battles 492 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:44,400 Speaker 1: going on. It's like like, go read go read Peter 493 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 1: King's you know, Monday Morning thing, because it basically talked 494 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:51,240 Speaker 1: about how these guys are having to adjust to that environment. 495 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:56,400 Speaker 1: I'm taking the animals, I think animals, and if animals 496 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:58,520 Speaker 1: are stirred in the wrong direction, I'd take an animal 497 00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:01,880 Speaker 1: over a small child very quickly. I believe it's Football 498 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,720 Speaker 1: Morning in the USA with Peter King is the name 499 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:07,120 Speaker 1: of the column. I don't know. Things are changing fast. 500 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 1: That was the title. I'm assuming that's still the title. Um. 501 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:15,400 Speaker 1: You guys remember um, you know, don't try to pretend 502 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:18,879 Speaker 1: like you don't. In the mid nineties, if you know 503 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 1: you had the TV on a little later at night 504 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:25,200 Speaker 1: on certain cable channels, UM Cinemax or something like that, 505 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 1: About fifty of the plots on those particular films revolved 506 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:35,440 Speaker 1: around virtual reality headgear. That was huge. That was one 507 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 1: of the great tropes of that One out of every 508 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 1: two Okay, revealing a lot. Right, you turn on, you 509 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:50,240 Speaker 1: watch a Red Shoe Diaries from six someone's wearing a mask. Well, 510 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 1: why why why do the gms have to be, you know, 511 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 1: wearing a mask. We're not wearing masks. You know, we're 512 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:02,680 Speaker 1: I'm just man. And most of those programs, somebody's wearing 513 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 1: a headset and it's plugged in and it's really changing 514 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:09,680 Speaker 1: their experience. It cuts over to Bill Belichick. He's got 515 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:14,600 Speaker 1: like the goggles on. He's just like, the goggles are 516 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 1: all fogged up. Bill, We're up, We're on the clock. 517 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:27,960 Speaker 1: David Duchovny used to host Redshoe Diaries, remember that, I 518 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 1: like Greg and Mark and West, Like, what is this 519 00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:33,840 Speaker 1: guy even talking about? No? I, if anything, I just 520 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:36,960 Speaker 1: my memories of that. That sort of part of media 521 00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:40,000 Speaker 1: is a little bit different than what you're described. Premium 522 00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:42,160 Speaker 1: cable did not exist in my life until the last 523 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:48,719 Speaker 1: few years. All right, fair enough, I mean, what are 524 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 1: you gonna do? I can't afford cable, Dan. I had 525 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:54,840 Speaker 1: not claiming innocence on this front. I just I have 526 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:58,240 Speaker 1: maybe a different take on what I experienced West. Back 527 00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:02,320 Speaker 1: in my day, we only had magazines. Victoria's Sacred magazine. 528 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:08,720 Speaker 1: There was full of playboys. In the nineties, there was 529 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:12,280 Speaker 1: a craze that went down in my um Rockland County 530 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 1: where I'm from. Uh, it was called the Scrambler Box. 531 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:16,880 Speaker 1: I don't know if this was happening up in western 532 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:20,440 Speaker 1: mass or in Connecticut, but um, I believe the Statue 533 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:22,200 Speaker 1: of Limitations is up on this so I could talk 534 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:25,840 Speaker 1: about it. But um everyone got the scrambler Box, which 535 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:28,960 Speaker 1: basically gave you access to a hundred channels. Uh it 536 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 1: was you know, it was off the books. It was 537 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:33,920 Speaker 1: not street legal. It even gave you access to the 538 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:37,560 Speaker 1: pay per view channels Channel ninety and Channel Request. It 539 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:40,640 Speaker 1: was called where we were from, and um, so you 540 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:43,680 Speaker 1: didn't need to pay the premium price for cable if 541 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:45,840 Speaker 1: you have the Scrambler So I don't know if that 542 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:51,600 Speaker 1: made it to Cincinnati. Knew was like seventies automobile where 543 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 1: I came from. Yeah, I mean everyone had like the 544 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 1: friend with it, but like it also required those the 545 00:29:56,640 --> 00:30:03,120 Speaker 1: friends parents to be overtly breaking. It was in the 546 00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:06,120 Speaker 1: back of it to like make it work or something weird. Yeah, 547 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 1: I don't know where that where. Like my parents who 548 00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 1: aren't like rule breakers by any stretch got there scrambler 549 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 1: from but like everyone I knew had it, they had 550 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:18,760 Speaker 1: a guy like New York, New Jersey. Maybe it fell 551 00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:20,200 Speaker 1: off the back of a truck. Maybe it was one 552 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 1: of those situations. Um, all right, let's get back on 553 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:28,040 Speaker 1: track here and talk a little bit about the two 554 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:32,320 Speaker 1: thousand ten All Decade Team which was announced. Here are 555 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:40,200 Speaker 1: the headliners. Um, Tom Brady, Aaron Donald, Rob Gronkowski. Uh, 556 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:43,960 Speaker 1: names that you expect, Greg, you love this stuff. Who 557 00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:47,920 Speaker 1: are some names that surprised you on the All Decade list? 558 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:54,480 Speaker 1: And maybe some notable snubs. Um. The biggest surprises where 559 00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:59,600 Speaker 1: guys like Tyrone, Matthew Newer player at Eric Weddle. Um. 560 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:01,480 Speaker 1: But then I have to like have my list and 561 00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:03,200 Speaker 1: West is more prepared for that of who I would 562 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:06,040 Speaker 1: have replaced those guys with. My biggest takeaway was kind 563 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:07,840 Speaker 1: of the guys who get a Hall of Fame boost 564 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 1: because if you get an All Decade team and they're 565 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,800 Speaker 1: not doing first and second teams anymore, which is a 566 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:15,440 Speaker 1: little confusing because they used to do that and I 567 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:20,040 Speaker 1: don't like that lack of consistency. But guys like Marshawn Lynch, 568 00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:26,240 Speaker 1: Lashawn McCoy Klais Campbell, Cameron Jordan's, Geno Atkins, Tyrone, Matthew, 569 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:29,400 Speaker 1: Maybe someday, like all of those kinds, right when they 570 00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:33,640 Speaker 1: come up for Hall of Fame, you know, consideration someday, 571 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:35,800 Speaker 1: And I know for some of those names that seem surprising, 572 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:37,880 Speaker 1: but they still have time to keep playing, like that'll 573 00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:40,240 Speaker 1: be a big deal and it'll help some of those 574 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:44,920 Speaker 1: guys get over the finish line. Yeah, Devin Hester was 575 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:47,680 Speaker 1: the first guy I thought of because as a return specialist, 576 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,400 Speaker 1: there's been some debate over whether he would get in 577 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:52,400 Speaker 1: or not. And to me, you can make a strong 578 00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:56,320 Speaker 1: argument he's the best return specialist of all time. Um 579 00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:59,200 Speaker 1: and having All Decade in two different decades, I think 580 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:03,800 Speaker 1: that's enough to put him in point. I see Darrell 581 00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:06,000 Speaker 1: Revas on this list. We talked about Revis. I think 582 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:08,600 Speaker 1: I don't know what it was, maybe when he officially retired. 583 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:12,720 Speaker 1: I can't remember exactly the the circumstances, but his uh 584 00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:16,920 Speaker 1: truly great years were oh eight, no. Nine, I don't 585 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:19,280 Speaker 1: greg you would know. Uh maybe was he on the 586 00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:22,320 Speaker 1: All Decade team in the previous decade. I don't know, 587 00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:25,520 Speaker 1: because his those were two of the greatest years ever 588 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:28,920 Speaker 1: in the position. He was still a huge impact guy 589 00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:32,600 Speaker 1: um in ten eleven, and then he had one final 590 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,120 Speaker 1: year with the Patriots where he got a ring A 591 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:38,280 Speaker 1: little surprised he gets all decade because his peak wasn't 592 00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:40,800 Speaker 1: that high and the first two years, which were his best, 593 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:43,400 Speaker 1: weren't in the decade. But maybe a little bit of 594 00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:46,560 Speaker 1: name brand nod there too. Yeah, I mean, like if 595 00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:50,239 Speaker 1: they're starting in then he had three first team All 596 00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:55,000 Speaker 1: pros uh, And it might have just been kind of 597 00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:59,320 Speaker 1: a position that was tough to fill because Chris Harris 598 00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:02,440 Speaker 1: got in as a offensive back, Um, you know, did 599 00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:05,600 Speaker 1: the cornerbacks were pretty easy? I think to start with Peterson, 600 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:09,000 Speaker 1: uh in Richard Sherman. But again I keep thinking of 601 00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:13,000 Speaker 1: like these really will come up as Hall of Fame 602 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:17,120 Speaker 1: kind of boosting, um, you know, reasons why guys should 603 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:18,880 Speaker 1: get in the other The other thing I would change. 604 00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:20,960 Speaker 1: Maybe maybe it's a little crazy, but wouldn't you put 605 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:24,600 Speaker 1: Breeze over Aaron Rodgers? Or is that crazy? Nick Shook 606 00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:27,520 Speaker 1: has a piece on nfl dot com top ten snubs 607 00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:30,160 Speaker 1: of the All Decade. Lessie has Breeze at number one 608 00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:34,360 Speaker 1: over Rogers. It's kind of a fascinating conversation because Rogers 609 00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:37,520 Speaker 1: at his peak, which would let's say ten to fifteen 610 00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:41,920 Speaker 1: no brainer. But hasn't Breeze Mark been more consistent over 611 00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:45,040 Speaker 1: the ten year stretch. I mean I could go either 612 00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:47,160 Speaker 1: way with that one. I I it seems weird to 613 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:50,600 Speaker 1: me that Breeze often feels like the guy kind of 614 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:54,120 Speaker 1: left out of some of these conversations. Always never made 615 00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:57,800 Speaker 1: at all pro this decade. I mean, he's been ultra ultra, ultra, 616 00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:01,280 Speaker 1: you know, consistent, and for me, you know, it's just 617 00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:04,640 Speaker 1: you're gonna pick two quarterbacks. There's gonna be a bunch 618 00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:09,680 Speaker 1: of people freaking out. I have how many people made 619 00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:12,200 Speaker 1: this list, I mean everybody made it except for the 620 00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:16,040 Speaker 1: biggest snub I found, which was Lavonte David. We talked 621 00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:17,799 Speaker 1: about my list a couple of months ago when I 622 00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:21,839 Speaker 1: did this. Lavonte David number one among off the ball 623 00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:26,000 Speaker 1: linebackers and forced fumbles, tackles for lost and solo tackles 624 00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:28,840 Speaker 1: in the decade, and did not make the team. Right 625 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:31,759 Speaker 1: what West, There was a lot that it basically was 626 00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:34,160 Speaker 1: they did a first and second team, but they didn't 627 00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:38,759 Speaker 1: delineate between the two. So everybody made right. But it's 628 00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:40,960 Speaker 1: the same it's the same amount of players that have 629 00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:43,480 Speaker 1: always made it in terms of like they announced the 630 00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:45,600 Speaker 1: second team along with the first team and there's four 631 00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:48,920 Speaker 1: defensive ends for instance. But it does get you thinking, um, 632 00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:51,920 Speaker 1: I think PF had a huge impact and it's going 633 00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:53,680 Speaker 1: to be having an impact now on Hall of Fame 634 00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:57,839 Speaker 1: cases stuff like that, like Klais Campbell, Cam Jordan's they 635 00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:02,160 Speaker 1: were making this list without PFF. Geno Atkins, I don't 636 00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:05,000 Speaker 1: think he's making this list without PFF. There there's Chris 637 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:08,000 Speaker 1: Harris is not, Eric Weddles not And it does show 638 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,560 Speaker 1: what a what a difference um, that site has made 639 00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:13,040 Speaker 1: I think for some of these players and their reputations 640 00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:15,960 Speaker 1: and their money. Gregg, one question for you, because if 641 00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:18,400 Speaker 1: you if the argument helps the player get over the 642 00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:20,360 Speaker 1: hump into the Hall of Fame. I mean, obviously for 643 00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:23,719 Speaker 1: the coaches they picked Bill Belichick and Pete Carroll's you 644 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,200 Speaker 1: and I you know, I'm much more interested in seeing 645 00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:29,520 Speaker 1: some coaches from days of old get Hall of Fame nods. 646 00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:32,239 Speaker 1: I mean, did you consider Pete Carroll already a Hall 647 00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:35,680 Speaker 1: of Fame coach or does this do anything for you 648 00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:37,919 Speaker 1: if you didn't think that that he now is? I do. 649 00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:40,880 Speaker 1: I did think you I did. I don't think you 650 00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:42,799 Speaker 1: should even be on this list. I think Andy Reid 651 00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:46,800 Speaker 1: should have been there. M H parcel. Nick Shook agrees 652 00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:48,440 Speaker 1: he has a number four on the snub list. I 653 00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:51,120 Speaker 1: mean that makes it's but you know, it's the next 654 00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:53,919 Speaker 1: layer of people that haven't really imagine doing your job 655 00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,200 Speaker 1: as well as and in any industry as well as 656 00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:58,239 Speaker 1: Drew Brees did over the last ten years and not 657 00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:00,919 Speaker 1: making the list. It just seems utterly it's close. Andy 658 00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:03,240 Speaker 1: Reid did not have some of his you know, best 659 00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:06,720 Speaker 1: Eagles years there early, and Carol kind of the timing 660 00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:09,440 Speaker 1: worked out from he took over that program I think 661 00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:12,040 Speaker 1: in oh nine or ten and then they went flying. 662 00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:15,440 Speaker 1: That's about as good a like rebuild jobs as anyone's 663 00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:19,239 Speaker 1: ever done. UH. In other news, sad news out of 664 00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:25,280 Speaker 1: the NFL. UH. Tom Dempsey who famously kicked a sixty 665 00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:30,719 Speaker 1: three yard field goal on November eighth, nineteen seventy UM 666 00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:33,400 Speaker 1: really kind of a great human interest story too. He 667 00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:37,880 Speaker 1: was born without He had no toes on his kicking 668 00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:41,600 Speaker 1: foot his right foot. He wore a modified shoe UM, 669 00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:44,880 Speaker 1: and he used the straight toe kicking style. UH. And 670 00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:47,239 Speaker 1: he hit a sixty three yard or a record that 671 00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:51,000 Speaker 1: stood for decades. UM. He passed away on Saturday night 672 00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:54,160 Speaker 1: at the age of seventy three. He died after a 673 00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:59,439 Speaker 1: contracting UH the coronavirus. The sound the Saints made this announcement. UH. 674 00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:04,160 Speaker 1: He had been battling health issues for several years, Alzheimer's 675 00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:09,440 Speaker 1: and dementia and these older people that they are the 676 00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:12,399 Speaker 1: most susceptible as we've been hearing for weeks and weeks, 677 00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:17,680 Speaker 1: and Dempsey obviously was So we lose Tom Dempsey at 678 00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:20,319 Speaker 1: the age of seventy three. Yeah, he hit that kick 679 00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:25,359 Speaker 1: in two Lane Stadium. And I read the the obituary 680 00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:27,640 Speaker 1: and in the New Orleans Times picky, and it pointed 681 00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:29,880 Speaker 1: out something I always noticed, even just being down there 682 00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:32,200 Speaker 1: and knowing Saints. It's like that kick was the most 683 00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:35,680 Speaker 1: memorable Saints moment they had in the first thirty years 684 00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:40,160 Speaker 1: of their UH existence. So as as odd as it 685 00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:45,320 Speaker 1: seems now considering the success that they've had, like that moment, 686 00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:48,160 Speaker 1: they would show the replay and they would bring Tom 687 00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:50,600 Speaker 1: Dempsey out and like he he lived in New Orleans 688 00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:52,960 Speaker 1: and everything like that was that was you know, that 689 00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:54,640 Speaker 1: was the biggest thing that had ever happened to them, 690 00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:56,719 Speaker 1: and the record did stand for four decades, which there 691 00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:59,600 Speaker 1: aren't many records out there that end up sitting there 692 00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:03,200 Speaker 1: for four also noted that that before Dempsey lined up 693 00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:05,319 Speaker 1: to kick that in the in that was a game 694 00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:09,200 Speaker 1: winner nineteen seventeen over the Lions, that Lions players were 695 00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:13,640 Speaker 1: openly giggling at Dempsey before he made the attempt, and 696 00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:15,680 Speaker 1: then he just silenced them. And I love that. It 697 00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:19,640 Speaker 1: wasn't until four that another kicker even made one from 698 00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:22,960 Speaker 1: sixty yards and then he was finally the record finally 699 00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:27,320 Speaker 1: was broken by Matt Prator, who had a sixty four yarder, 700 00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:28,840 Speaker 1: but he kicked it. I think he kicked it up 701 00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:30,640 Speaker 1: there in the mountains there in Denver, which is fine, 702 00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:33,200 Speaker 1: it's fine, but it should be noted that he had 703 00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:37,399 Speaker 1: the mile high air behind him. You can you can 704 00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:40,680 Speaker 1: see over the generations that it's a much faster game 705 00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:43,919 Speaker 1: with better athletes, but kicker is the one position where 706 00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:46,040 Speaker 1: you could see it happening as it happened in the 707 00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:49,160 Speaker 1: eighties and nineties. These guys were just so much better 708 00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:51,839 Speaker 1: than they were in the sixties and seventies because they 709 00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:54,280 Speaker 1: were toe bangers, and then they became soccer style kickers. 710 00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:57,759 Speaker 1: You started to recruit old quarterbacks who would kick like 711 00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:00,480 Speaker 1: the best athletes were going into kicking in instead of 712 00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:03,680 Speaker 1: like the guy who was an afterthought. And Tom Dempsey's 713 00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:06,400 Speaker 1: record to stand that long, a guy born without toes 714 00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:09,680 Speaker 1: kicking with a wedge to stand for decades when the 715 00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:14,560 Speaker 1: position just kept getting better and better. Uh. And here's 716 00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:17,680 Speaker 1: one final stat that is kind of remarkable, and it's 717 00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:20,440 Speaker 1: to your point West, how the kicking game involved. He 718 00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:22,560 Speaker 1: was a rookie with the Saints in nineteen sixty nine 719 00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:26,920 Speaker 1: and he earned his only Pro Bowl and All Pro 720 00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:30,520 Speaker 1: nod uh in a season in which he kicked, had 721 00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:35,240 Speaker 1: forty one UM field goal attempts, he only converted fifty 722 00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:38,960 Speaker 1: three point seven percent. That's called a long of fifty 723 00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:42,040 Speaker 1: three yards and he was at all pro. So yes, 724 00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:44,239 Speaker 1: it's a it's a different world now in the kicking game. 725 00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:49,880 Speaker 1: But Tom Dempsey, at least for one day, was king. Finally, 726 00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:56,240 Speaker 1: in the news, we head to Tybee where there's some major, 727 00:39:57,040 --> 00:40:02,520 Speaker 1: major news going down. The governor or of Georgia. I 728 00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:05,680 Speaker 1: believe this is the same Governor West who was unaware 729 00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:11,320 Speaker 1: that people could transmit COVID nineteen UM without showing symptoms. 730 00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:13,359 Speaker 1: He was a little behind the curve on that he 731 00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:16,840 Speaker 1: made the decision to open up the beaches in Georgia, 732 00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:21,320 Speaker 1: and the people of Tybee Island West your former home 733 00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:25,719 Speaker 1: uh and specifically the mayor of Tybee Island, Shirley Sessions, 734 00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:30,120 Speaker 1: furious that the governor would put the people of Tybee 735 00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:34,600 Speaker 1: in in danger. Here is the statement from Shirley Sessions. 736 00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:37,520 Speaker 1: As the Pentagon ordered one hundred thousand bodybags to store 737 00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:41,000 Speaker 1: the corpses of Americans killed by the coronavirus, Governor Bryant 738 00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:44,600 Speaker 1: Kemp dictated that Georgia beaches must reopen and declared any 739 00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:47,600 Speaker 1: decision makers who refused to follow these orders would face 740 00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:51,080 Speaker 1: prison and or finds. Tybee City Council and I are 741 00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:54,719 Speaker 1: devastated by the sudden directives and do not support his decisions. 742 00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:57,560 Speaker 1: The health of our residents, staff and visitors are being 743 00:40:57,600 --> 00:41:00,160 Speaker 1: put at risk, and we will pursue legal avenue is 744 00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:05,239 Speaker 1: to overturn overturn his reckless mandate. West your thoughts, Well, 745 00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:08,200 Speaker 1: you guys have met my friend Jason Bueltemann, who had 746 00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:11,040 Speaker 1: been the mayor for the last fifteen years on Tybee. 747 00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:13,080 Speaker 1: He grew up in Cincinnati with me. We went to 748 00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:16,040 Speaker 1: the same high school. Um, he kind of abdicated the 749 00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:19,759 Speaker 1: throne last year. He was sort of a centrist Republican. 750 00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:21,239 Speaker 1: I don't know if he would have come out this 751 00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:24,719 Speaker 1: strongly Shirley Sessions, who is now the mayor. It's a 752 00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:28,279 Speaker 1: little bit older and more left leaning. And Tybee, you 753 00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:32,160 Speaker 1: know people here that you lived in Georgia, the Deep South, 754 00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:35,400 Speaker 1: and often the assumption is that things might be a 755 00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:39,520 Speaker 1: little backwards. Um, Tybee is a pocket of independent thinking. 756 00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:42,320 Speaker 1: Like most islands, it's an end of the road place 757 00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:46,000 Speaker 1: where people wash up. Uh, people looking for something else, 758 00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:49,080 Speaker 1: people trying to be apart from society. They are not 759 00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:51,439 Speaker 1: gonna think the way the rest of Georgia does, and 760 00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:55,759 Speaker 1: they're gonna think independently. The governor is it could be 761 00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:58,480 Speaker 1: costing lives here and Tybe is saying, no, we don't 762 00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:01,000 Speaker 1: want it. We want to do the smart thing. I mean, 763 00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:02,640 Speaker 1: he was very much of the spirit of the island 764 00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:06,960 Speaker 1: west absolutely. I mean it's making national news. I wonder, Um, 765 00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:09,120 Speaker 1: you know your friend Jason who married you, He's the 766 00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:15,520 Speaker 1: reason you went to Tybee in the first place. The okay, 767 00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:19,120 Speaker 1: you guys knew what I met he. I wonder if 768 00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:22,560 Speaker 1: he he wishes, you know, she's Shirley's getting a lot 769 00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:24,920 Speaker 1: of pop here. This is national news, so I wonder 770 00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:29,040 Speaker 1: if he interesting, um, you know, a little jealous. I 771 00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:30,719 Speaker 1: think Jason got a lot of pop for the way 772 00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:33,799 Speaker 1: he handled hurricanes, the beach renourishment. You know, he was 773 00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:37,759 Speaker 1: he was on CNN and other news outlets himself. I 774 00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:39,680 Speaker 1: think it got to the point where he was tired 775 00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:42,400 Speaker 1: at like three thirty in the morning, drunk people showing 776 00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:45,040 Speaker 1: up at his house complaining about, you know, whatever's on 777 00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:47,640 Speaker 1: their minds. That probably got a little old after fifteen 778 00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:52,359 Speaker 1: and twenty years minutes. Good for Shirley, I mean, Long 779 00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:55,640 Speaker 1: Island's getting ravage right now because of a lot of 780 00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:57,759 Speaker 1: people that left New York City and went to hang 781 00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:01,160 Speaker 1: out in Long Island, UH at their second homes and 782 00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:04,399 Speaker 1: kind of brought the disease there. And so it's good 783 00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:07,800 Speaker 1: for her to try to keep keep her her people safe. 784 00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:15,080 Speaker 1: That's what's happening in the news. Before we say goodbye, Mark, 785 00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:19,200 Speaker 1: I want to present a sliding door scenario. Took all right, 786 00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:23,960 Speaker 1: but you have to promise to give a honest answer. 787 00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:29,960 Speaker 1: I always promised that to everyone both on this chat. 788 00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:34,120 Speaker 1: Right now, on the show and the listeners. All right, 789 00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:37,640 Speaker 1: is this some form of revenge for the game from Friday? Okay, Nope, 790 00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:42,360 Speaker 1: not at all. I'm gonna give you two life path choices. 791 00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:48,279 Speaker 1: You have to pick one path. One you could be 792 00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:54,840 Speaker 1: part part of the scientific team who develops the vaccine 793 00:43:55,080 --> 00:44:04,400 Speaker 1: for COVID nineteen. Well, are okay? You take over again? 794 00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:11,120 Speaker 1: This is in a different reality in about you take 795 00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:14,720 Speaker 1: over as Brown's head coach or a quarterback. It's your choice, 796 00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:19,080 Speaker 1: and go on a Patriots like run for the next 797 00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:24,000 Speaker 1: two decades. You are Cleveland Royalty that makes Lebron James 798 00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:30,440 Speaker 1: look like Danny Ferry. No one will ever know which 799 00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:34,799 Speaker 1: life path you choose. You don't want me to tell 800 00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:39,479 Speaker 1: you what is your choice. I'll choose, and I don't 801 00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:43,200 Speaker 1: have any scientific skills at all, so I don't. I 802 00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:47,040 Speaker 1: just think in this reality, just like you're not a 803 00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:49,040 Speaker 1: real great quarterback, s are you? I believe you're an 804 00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:54,160 Speaker 1: offensive line or a cornerback, multi position and quarterback or 805 00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:57,920 Speaker 1: a head coach in this reality, the sliding door reality, 806 00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:02,240 Speaker 1: you are a fairly gifted scientists, one that's um renowned 807 00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:05,120 Speaker 1: enough to be on this team that develops the cure. 808 00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:09,399 Speaker 1: But You're not the only person. You're not Jonah Salk, 809 00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:10,960 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Yeah, I'm going to be. 810 00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:12,959 Speaker 1: I just think be like I would have. You're talking 811 00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:17,319 Speaker 1: about number one. I do trust that, uh, without me 812 00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:19,759 Speaker 1: being there, that someone else is going to create the vaccine. 813 00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:23,640 Speaker 1: I already know what other people created in Cleveland. If 814 00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:27,200 Speaker 1: I could have um put together two decades worth of 815 00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:31,440 Speaker 1: incredibly happy Sundays and changed the history of the league, Yeah, 816 00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:36,239 Speaker 1: I'm going to be. You're gonna change the skyline in Cleveland. Yeah, 817 00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:38,799 Speaker 1: I mean, it's the other thing will happen if it's like, oh, 818 00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:41,200 Speaker 1: if you said that the virus will never be solved 819 00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:44,680 Speaker 1: because of my we don't know that in this scenario, 820 00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:50,160 Speaker 1: I'm going I'm going. I mean, I like, I admire 821 00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:52,920 Speaker 1: your honesty on this. It's this the first one. Just 822 00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:56,120 Speaker 1: you know, I who I hope and pray that happens 823 00:45:56,239 --> 00:46:00,200 Speaker 1: on the second one. You know, I that's attractive to me. 824 00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:02,399 Speaker 1: Would you be, like, would you be the head coach 825 00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:04,799 Speaker 1: or the quarterback? If given the choice, I'd much rather 826 00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:08,080 Speaker 1: be the head coach. That's what I thought. I thought 827 00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:10,120 Speaker 1: you would choose that most people, and you know I'd rather. 828 00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:12,719 Speaker 1: I'd also be sort of the GM, like Bill Belichiper, 829 00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:14,640 Speaker 1: They're like, hey, you know they didn't pick a GM 830 00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:17,200 Speaker 1: for the All Decade team. But it's just obviously Sessler. 831 00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:21,359 Speaker 1: I mean, come on, footballs are Yeah, alright, there you go. 832 00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:24,279 Speaker 1: We can we can shut that music down because not 833 00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:28,279 Speaker 1: even a hesitation, Greg, That's what jumped out to me. Yeah, 834 00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:30,920 Speaker 1: I mean Mark's willing to put a lot of lives 835 00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:34,919 Speaker 1: at risk for his little glory glory time, Ricky, would 836 00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:37,480 Speaker 1: you choose the same make the same choices, Mark, if 837 00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:42,200 Speaker 1: you had part of the COVID nineteen cure team or 838 00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:45,040 Speaker 1: like a kind of a best case life scenario for you, 839 00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:46,840 Speaker 1: what would you choose? I mean it it is. It 840 00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:49,600 Speaker 1: is hard. You know, it's like the glory, the fame, 841 00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:52,799 Speaker 1: the you know you're taking. No, hell no, I'm not 842 00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:55,239 Speaker 1: gonna be the human life all right, here we go. 843 00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:59,799 Speaker 1: You are a Taylor Swift type figure in b Yeah, 844 00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:03,839 Speaker 1: like no, no, no, I feel like right now like 845 00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:07,160 Speaker 1: I'm not I might lie. Nobody will ever know. Yeah, 846 00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:10,279 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be the scientist. I'm gonna I'm gonna save 847 00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:18,799 Speaker 1: the world. You're also sixty seven year old pudgy white man. Um. Yeah, no, no, 848 00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:26,279 Speaker 1: Taylor Swift. All right, all right, good stuff today, folks. Um, 849 00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:28,840 Speaker 1: we will continue to come at you five days a week. 850 00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:31,400 Speaker 1: We know you're loving it and we enjoy doing it 851 00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:34,920 Speaker 1: as well, so why stop. The Bunker Cast will roll 852 00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:38,319 Speaker 1: on Tuesday with our special guest Peter Schrager will do 853 00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:43,960 Speaker 1: some frankly vaguely overdue draft talk. We don't we don't 854 00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:46,680 Speaker 1: tend to really dive into this realm, and we kind 855 00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:48,600 Speaker 1: of guess put it off, but it's really out of 856 00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:51,560 Speaker 1: respect for the listener because it's not our bally Wick 857 00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:54,200 Speaker 1: right west. But at some point we need to do 858 00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:56,600 Speaker 1: some homework and get the listeners up to speed a 859 00:47:56,600 --> 00:48:00,319 Speaker 1: little bit from the A t N podcast standpoint double 860 00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:03,719 Speaker 1: use of Ballywick there, because like, if there was a 861 00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:08,279 Speaker 1: podcast that the NFL provided that you covered the draft, yeah, 862 00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:11,879 Speaker 1: maybe we wouldn't need to do that. But since there isn't, um, 863 00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:14,000 Speaker 1: we need to step and fill that hole. It seems 864 00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:17,520 Speaker 1: like an underserved market that they should look into. That's 865 00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:19,840 Speaker 1: the way. It's a huge part of the NFL, and 866 00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:23,800 Speaker 1: it's it's kind of to me it is stunning a development. 867 00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:26,160 Speaker 1: Is anything inside our media house that they have not 868 00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:29,680 Speaker 1: come up with a draft centric program. What are you 869 00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:32,719 Speaker 1: waiting for? I mean, I mean, we have the resources 870 00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:36,120 Speaker 1: we have as the NFL to go out and find 871 00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:39,880 Speaker 1: a guy, a guy that has experience inside a front office, 872 00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:42,279 Speaker 1: that's been on the road, that could talk a little 873 00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:45,240 Speaker 1: bit that might look okay on camera. Uh. It seems 874 00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:48,680 Speaker 1: like an easy thing for our company and our league, 875 00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:50,960 Speaker 1: but we just haven't done it yet. So when whenever 876 00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:54,640 Speaker 1: that happens, maybe this is something, Ricky, let's get some 877 00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:57,520 Speaker 1: of the big shadow League figures on the horn after 878 00:48:57,560 --> 00:48:59,759 Speaker 1: the show and we'll maybe pitch somebody. I got Lands 879 00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:06,320 Speaker 1: aer Line who does GISs very good total pro I 880 00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:08,719 Speaker 1: don't know, Jesus, just we're just spitballing in real time 881 00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:12,360 Speaker 1: right now. All right, Dan had the signing off for 882 00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:17,440 Speaker 1: the Quiet Storm, the Mailman, the old Boss Ricky Hollywood, 883 00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:20,360 Speaker 1: who definitely would be Taylor Swift no matter the circumstance. 884 00:49:25,280 --> 00:50:07,480 Speaker 1: Peter Shrager tomorrow till Tuesday,