Speaker 1: This is How Men Think? And and I heard radio podcasts.
Speaker 1: Welcome to another episode of How Men Think. My name
Speaker 1: is Brooks Like and I'm sad to say, for all
Speaker 1: our Gavin DeGraf fans, we do not have Gavin DeGraw
Speaker 1: with us today. We also do not have Rick Ryan
Speaker 1: or Dmitri and I know all two of Ryan's fans
Speaker 1: are going to be disappointed that he's not here. But
Speaker 1: for you guys, for everybody listening at home, we do
Speaker 1: have a super special guest with us today. I am
Speaker 1: going to anoint him with co hosting privileges in lieu
Speaker 1: of absence, and I will dare to say that this
Speaker 1: man is with no disrespect to any previous guests. This
Speaker 1: is probably the most handsome man we have ever had
Speaker 1: on this show. So unfortunately it's a podcast, but we're
Speaker 1: doing this call by zoom and I want to introduce
Speaker 1: you guys to Mr Eric Winter. How are you, buddy
Speaker 1: good Man? Thank you for that intro that was that
Speaker 1: was pretty spectacular. Yeah, dude, I must know how men think.
Speaker 1: This is great. Happy to bring some knowledge. That's that's
Speaker 1: any For any of the females that know you, that
Speaker 1: know the name Eric Winter, know you as a model,
Speaker 1: know you as an actor. Um, they know, they're they're
Speaker 1: probably thinking if this was how women think, they'd be
Speaker 1: probably saying you are the most handsome man. But I'll
Speaker 1: just echo that statement and say that you're probably the
Speaker 1: most handsome man we have ever had on this show. So, um,
Speaker 1: you started your career. I want to dig into your
Speaker 1: career a little bit. You started your career as a model. Correct?
Speaker 1: I did? I did? I was? You know I was.
Speaker 1: I was, believe it or not. I want to be
Speaker 1: a doctor. I was a pre med student at U
Speaker 1: c o A. Uh yeah. I started dating this girl
Speaker 1: who was working on this TV show Clueless that used
Speaker 1: to be around not the movie after the movie that
Speaker 1: was the show, and she was like a recurring on
Speaker 1: there and she had we met and she said, why
Speaker 1: don't you modeled, interacting or do anything? And that you know,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm pursuing to be a doctor. So
Speaker 1: give me some pictures of yourself. I want to submit
Speaker 1: with some friends of mine and see if they can
Speaker 1: help you out. I was like, okay, so I'm, you know,
Speaker 1: standing in my backyard and underwear like in front of
Speaker 1: an old shed. Takeyas that I that I sent her,
Speaker 1: and I got lucky enough to get a manager who
Speaker 1: then got me an agent fairly quickly, and um, it's
Speaker 1: starting to become a profession. Within like a year, I
Speaker 1: booked Tommy Hill figure campaign and then it became a job.
Speaker 1: At that point, I didn't become a doctor. I never
Speaker 1: became a doctor. And then all of a sudden, you're
Speaker 1: doing pictures with Britney Spears. Yeah, not a bad dig
Speaker 1: my man. No man. It evolved from there. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: went from acting the commercials and then uh, I got
Speaker 1: like a big acting break doing a soap opera, Days
Speaker 1: of Our Lives for one contract, which is a few years.
Speaker 1: And then I've hopped all over you know, film and
Speaker 1: television and currently doing the show The Rookie on ABC.
Speaker 1: It's been great right on. And then also in The
Speaker 1: Good Doctor. So did some of that did you get
Speaker 1: to fulfill? Like some of you are just missed out
Speaker 1: on dreams? Bye bye? That like acting in that series,
Speaker 1: believe it or not, I've played a doctor like five
Speaker 1: or six, the best fake doctor out there, dude, do
Speaker 1: do it? Catch me if you can go into some hospital.
Speaker 1: And I actually don't advise this because you know, out
Speaker 1: of respect for the medical profession, but like you could
Speaker 1: probably pull off and catch me if you can. Where
Speaker 1: he goes in and acts like a doctor even though
Speaker 1: he has no certifications for it. It's it's funny. It's funny.
Speaker 1: I was able to fulfill that aspect of my life,
Speaker 1: you know, hypothetically. Um, and it's been it's been cool, man,
Speaker 1: I've been very fortunate. Um. What do you which one
Speaker 1: do you enjoy more? The modeling side of it or
Speaker 1: the acting side of it. You know. The one thing
Speaker 1: about modeling that was for me always the most fun
Speaker 1: is I'm I love to travel. So modeling gave me
Speaker 1: like a free ticket to travel all over the world.
Speaker 1: And and it was something you know, it always felt
Speaker 1: so I don't know, like you're a model, and it
Speaker 1: was like hey, you know, just the sound of it.
Speaker 1: But it was fun to sort of be out there
Speaker 1: and meet all these different people. I mean, living in
Speaker 1: Europe for six months, you know, chunks at a time
Speaker 1: and just hopping on trains and jumping all over and
Speaker 1: between jobs. So for me, it gave me the best
Speaker 1: opportunity in the world to travel. It made it very
Speaker 1: difficult for school. I had to drop out of school
Speaker 1: and then go back to school to finish UM because
Speaker 1: being UM, I was a psychobiology major, and so being
Speaker 1: on the biology side of it, you know, you have
Speaker 1: these lab practic comes and these things when you go
Speaker 1: to the teacher and say, hey, I gotta go do
Speaker 1: a photo shoot and start dinya, is it okay if
Speaker 1: I just missed this test and I'll come back and
Speaker 1: make it up. And she'd be like, no, you're not
Speaker 1: gonna roll around. But I rolled around from the girl
Speaker 1: on the beach. Come on us, teachers, just like, only
Speaker 1: if you bring me um that is I agree with you. Though.
Speaker 1: Any profession like I was a professional athlete, professional hockey player,
Speaker 1: any profession that provides you travel is that's such a blessing,
Speaker 1: Like we get to do what we love, get to
Speaker 1: do something that you really enjoy. But then the added
Speaker 1: benefit of traveling and seeing different cities, cultures, countries, it's
Speaker 1: such a blessing. So especially at that time in life,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm in my twenties, it was amazing. It's
Speaker 1: sort of be free and just jumping all over the
Speaker 1: place and in place I never thought I would go
Speaker 1: in my life. Because you know, modeally will take you
Speaker 1: to random location. Do you have like your go to
Speaker 1: pose and you go to look, do you still have
Speaker 1: a move And there's always a good catalog you know,
Speaker 1: just hands in the pocket, ah, looking down. We have
Speaker 1: with our you have with us. You guys can't see
Speaker 1: it because you guys are listening in your cars whatever,
Speaker 1: but we have with this producer Tori, and Tori just
Speaker 1: melted there when Eric went into these two. And now
Speaker 1: she's bussing you. You have like a repertoire. It's funny.
Speaker 1: It's a standard joke. And you put you in your
Speaker 1: catalog shooting because you're just standing in front of a
Speaker 1: cameron that it's cluick click click click click, and you're
Speaker 1: just wearing the same thing and and you're just jumping
Speaker 1: different poses. You always have like your one two hand
Speaker 1: in the pocket, look down, look up, look besides smile
Speaker 1: grin series, Hey, just Rocas looks. It's so shallow, dude.
Speaker 1: I never know what I'm doing when I have to
Speaker 1: do like a red carpet and they're like stand like,
Speaker 1: I'm like stand here and take a photo. I'm like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, Like what am I doing? Gavin Gavin
Speaker 1: Degras always does this one. He shoots the gun, he points,
Speaker 1: he puts the figure out, and then it's just like
Speaker 1: me laughing at Gavin. We're both insanely awkward. I'm not
Speaker 1: sure why we're why we're on this car, but just
Speaker 1: take a photo of us as we walk by. But
Speaker 1: I always find it weird when um, and you probably
Speaker 1: get this a lot when somebody's like can I take
Speaker 1: a photo of you? And it's not can I take
Speaker 1: a photo with you? It's of you and you're like, um, what,
Speaker 1: you just want to take a photo of me? What
Speaker 1: am I supposed to do here? Yeah? Like you get
Speaker 1: in the picture. So we're one thing that drives you mad,
Speaker 1: and I can I get it. But like you get
Speaker 1: like fans that will come up to you and they're like, Wow,
Speaker 1: where do I know you from? I'm like, well, if
Speaker 1: you don't know that at the point of having this conversation,
Speaker 1: I can't go through a rescue man thing where you
Speaker 1: might know me from somewhere. We got a picture of you.
Speaker 1: I know I know you from somewhere. I guess you don't.
Speaker 1: I guess you don't. What do you do? What do
Speaker 1: you do? And I said, they just want the photo anyway,
Speaker 1: They're just like, yeah, come to me sometime and then
Speaker 1: I'll upload it. And I got a picture with that guy.
Speaker 1: Do you get that with sports too, because I mean
Speaker 1: I'm a funding but anything with me and I was
Speaker 1: never and even being in his business as an actor,
Speaker 1: I don't get start struck very often with actors. With athletes,
Speaker 1: that's like my jam because I'm a frustrating gonna played
Speaker 1: sports my whole life. But I obviously didn't go pro.
Speaker 1: That wasn't you know, my destiny to go that far.
Speaker 1: But for me, meeting athletes was always like my big
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's so and so that's you know that.
Speaker 1: So you know, you deal with the same thing all
Speaker 1: the time, and it's you know, be there like oh
Speaker 1: I love you for this this, you know whatever, you know,
Speaker 1: team you're playing out the time or whatever the thing
Speaker 1: is in hockey, and it's an awkward and uncomfortable but
Speaker 1: flattering thing all at once. You're doing what you love.
Speaker 1: These people are obsessed with you, dude, as a as
Speaker 1: an athlete, I like fanboy over musicians. Oh really that's
Speaker 1: my life. I that's funny. I love musicians like just
Speaker 1: I think they're so talented and just I love music.
Speaker 1: So much music is just it's it's in my soul.
Speaker 1: And I played piano, I played drums, I played guitar.
Speaker 1: Not well enough to be in a band in any
Speaker 1: of those, but I just I really enjoy those as pastimes. Um.
Speaker 1: And so every athlete wants to be a musician, and
Speaker 1: every musician that I've got to know over the years
Speaker 1: is like, oh, man, I'd rather be an athlete. You
Speaker 1: what you guys do is so cool. I'm like, come on, man,
Speaker 1: we both perform and sold out arenas, but nobody hits
Speaker 1: you guys. You know, like you don't get beat up
Speaker 1: every night, and you get people cheering your name all
Speaker 1: the time, versus half the time we're playing in a
Speaker 1: way arenas and I'm getting booed all night. I was like,
Speaker 1: I would rather be a musician. Um. But I also
Speaker 1: think the musicians. And one thing I've always thought was
Speaker 1: like that has to be the ultimate platform in a way,
Speaker 1: like if you're are on stage, you know, eighty thousand
Speaker 1: people or something just singing your song you wrote and
Speaker 1: they're all looking at you and you're a solo act.
Speaker 1: I mean that rush of adrenaline of taking a step
Speaker 1: back and being outside your body and going, wow, I
Speaker 1: accomplished this. That's pretty wild. Yeah. And what I what
Speaker 1: I like about that profession too, if you look at
Speaker 1: it on the macro, you can be a musician the
Speaker 1: rest of your life. Like, one thing that I really
Speaker 1: miss being on the retired side of professional sport is
Speaker 1: walking into a stadium of like jumping on the ice
Speaker 1: with twenty thousand people screaming. I missed the the magnitude
Speaker 1: of a stadium feeling and everybody focused on what you're
Speaker 1: doing on the ice. And as a musician, you can
Speaker 1: do that through your athletes were probably done in our
Speaker 1: thirties most of us, um, and late thirties if you're
Speaker 1: lucky and then but a musician can do at forties, fifties,
Speaker 1: sixtiesies like and and that is just such a gift
Speaker 1: to be able to do that. Um. But did you
Speaker 1: did you stopped sports? Have you taken up other sports?
Speaker 1: Like you do? You know so many athletes take to
Speaker 1: golf for it. I think it's like the hardest sport
Speaker 1: for every athlete that they won't have accomplished. You know, golf.
Speaker 1: Do you have a thing that you do? I've I've
Speaker 1: taken Yeah, I've taken up CrossFit more seriously because I've
Speaker 1: always loved the I've always loved the physical aspect of
Speaker 1: hockey and physical training. I've always loved It's been a
Speaker 1: part of my life since I was thirteen, and so
Speaker 1: I need that in my like for my soul to
Speaker 1: be expressed. I need that intense physical activity and challenge.
Speaker 1: And I also just believe in a healthy lifestyle. But
Speaker 1: I love cross fit because it's every sort of movement
Speaker 1: there is. You're gonna do powerlifting, Olympic lifting, you're gonna
Speaker 1: do endurance, you're gonna do speed, you're gonna do gymnastics,
Speaker 1: walk on your hand, pull ups, muscle ups like it's
Speaker 1: it's touching on every component of fitness, not just strength
Speaker 1: or not just endurance. And so I love the variety
Speaker 1: of it all the I love the pursuit of what
Speaker 1: the human body can do, and the variety within CrossFit
Speaker 1: is the best that I've ever found, and that's why
Speaker 1: I've fallen in love with that sport. So kind of
Speaker 1: heavy into that and I love it. Um. But I
Speaker 1: I will say um, I am jealous of those who
Speaker 1: can adele and those who can act dude, because because truthfully,
Speaker 1: if you ask somebody to model or to take a photo,
Speaker 1: it's very difficult. What I was just speaking of, I
Speaker 1: was like, I don't even know how to stand. But
Speaker 1: even even further to that, acting is one of the
Speaker 1: I think, one of the absolute most difficult professions there
Speaker 1: are to be able to convey. When I think about it,
Speaker 1: if I'm going to act, the reason I don't act
Speaker 1: as is I want I can't, but also to like,
Speaker 1: I don't know how to get outside of being myself.
Speaker 1: I don't know how to mentally put myself into this
Speaker 1: mindset and mind frame of being somebody else and then
Speaker 1: conveying beliefs and thoughts and emotions as that person when
Speaker 1: I'm not that person, which is what the actors and
Speaker 1: actresses do. And so I tip my cap to you guys,
Speaker 1: my friend. Did you have that natural sort of acting
Speaker 1: ability as in your youth? So did you have to
Speaker 1: develop that as you got older? I it was more
Speaker 1: of a you know, I always think with any profession
Speaker 1: when it gets into like at a professional level, there's
Speaker 1: like a gift that you have, whether it's been tapped
Speaker 1: or untapped at whatever point in your life. Right like
Speaker 1: for a pro athlete to make it that far. You
Speaker 1: had it in you. It's just a matter of when
Speaker 1: it was tapped and it expressed itself and came out
Speaker 1: and you fulfilled it and you nailed it. So I
Speaker 1: think I've had aspects of it in my life, but
Speaker 1: I wasn't pursuing it through high school or I was
Speaker 1: never in drama. I was never chasing after it as
Speaker 1: a dream. Like where my wife that was what she
Speaker 1: wanted to do her whole life. She knew dance or
Speaker 1: performer her whole life. Um, so I was afid. I
Speaker 1: put sports, hope did all that. I started taking drama
Speaker 1: on colleges for fun, like an elective. Just I needed
Speaker 1: needed an elective. That was it. And as I got
Speaker 1: started modeling, I said, you know what, I want to
Speaker 1: start reading acting book. She started meeting different people are
Speaker 1: doing commercials and doing this at it, so I wanted
Speaker 1: her studying back and looking at those and I started
Speaker 1: taking various classes. And the hardest part is getting out
Speaker 1: of your your own head and getting in your way right,
Speaker 1: like trying to clear your mind and ignore everybody that's
Speaker 1: staring at you. Why I would think Peter is one
Speaker 1: of the most difficult of all the acting practices because
Speaker 1: everybody's looking at you. Just live and if you spep
Speaker 1: on you, there's no take too, there's nothing right. Much
Speaker 1: larger crowd than on the set, and uh. I remember
Speaker 1: going through a couple of acting classes and being in
Speaker 1: one in particular where I had like this really heavy
Speaker 1: sort of scene with this girl and it was like
Speaker 1: an early acting class and she had been in it
Speaker 1: longer and we're free with everything, and we're having this
Speaker 1: makeout session on the couch, which is also weird in
Speaker 1: front of a lot of people you don't know, and
Speaker 1: we're making out of the couch. She pulls my shirt up,
Speaker 1: struck biting on my nipples on one like, how is
Speaker 1: it happening? And in my mind, I'm going to get
Speaker 1: out of your head, get out of your head. Just
Speaker 1: keep active, just keep active. But I'm going everybody in
Speaker 1: classes staring at her biting on my nipples. So that
Speaker 1: was one of my first experiences. I'm going, Okay, if
Speaker 1: you want to do this, you better start to, you know,
Speaker 1: remove yourself from the process. And I don't even know, Yeah,
Speaker 1: how do you do that? Like how do you even separate?
Speaker 1: Do you separate mind from body? And that or I
Speaker 1: don't know, it's just super weird. When you start enjoying it,
Speaker 1: you're like, well, it's girls kind of hot and she's
Speaker 1: biting my nipple. But everybody's watching me right now. This
Speaker 1: is even also weirder. So you're trying to like and
Speaker 1: if you're not into it a little bit, then it's
Speaker 1: then you can tell me you're asking right. You kind
Speaker 1: of gotta be into it. Oh man, um it is
Speaker 1: a true man, it is a true art though. Like
Speaker 1: but some of the performances you see and most of
Speaker 1: us are probably watching more TV now than than we
Speaker 1: have in a while. But um, I credit you guys,
Speaker 1: and because you you're able to convey and make us
Speaker 1: believe that what is going on is real and true
Speaker 1: in your life as a performer and being able to
Speaker 1: translate that. Like you said, I think it's maybe easier
Speaker 1: to translate that live in theater is maybe easy, but
Speaker 1: you guys translated through digitally through a screen, which I
Speaker 1: think is even more difficult to Um. So I don't know,
Speaker 1: just kudo, see man, I have imagine for anybody, any
Speaker 1: honestly truthfuly, any model or anybody that can act, because
Speaker 1: those are very very difficult. Um, professions. Your favorite part
Speaker 1: about it the adrenaline rush you definitely get when you're
Speaker 1: getting into a character and putting that character on its
Speaker 1: feet and you're in the performance. That adrenaline that can
Speaker 1: build up in certain roles is the best part about acting.
Speaker 1: There's no question when you are becoming that character in
Speaker 1: those moments and you're when you're fully in a scene
Speaker 1: and there's like a thing I call it, you know,
Speaker 1: when it clicks, like when it clicks in your mind
Speaker 1: and you're out of what you how you think, and
Speaker 1: you're out of the environment and you're in that feelings
Speaker 1: an incredible feeling. So can I ask you a question
Speaker 1: along with that? So that because that for me, I
Speaker 1: agree with everything you're saying and I understand it, but
Speaker 1: I don't I'm not able to make that connection. Like
Speaker 1: for me personally, um, like if I can athlete would
Speaker 1: be like if you're in the zone, like your zone
Speaker 1: as an athlete, and you know, like you're on fire,
Speaker 1: like whatever you're doing that that that game, you're you're
Speaker 1: stopping everybody, you're doing this, you're hitting that goal, hitting
Speaker 1: whatever it's you when you're in a zone, and obviously
Speaker 1: you can have off days, and you can act. You you
Speaker 1: you can have better performances and worst performances, and the
Speaker 1: differences is we could save by an editor who can
Speaker 1: cut it together and make it still look great. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, it's a flow state. We say it's a
Speaker 1: flow states like that. Yeah, same thing. So, but what
Speaker 1: I want to ask you is how how do you
Speaker 1: make it? How does it become so important to you
Speaker 1: to tell this other story? That's the part where it's
Speaker 1: a disconnect for me. I think that's the one of
Speaker 1: the reasons why I won't ever be an actor is
Speaker 1: I don't have the desire to tell another story aside
Speaker 1: from my own. And maybe I'm a selfish human being
Speaker 1: in that regard, or I just like living my own story.
Speaker 1: But what I respect and admire about you guys is
Speaker 1: you have the unselfish desire to tell the story of
Speaker 1: another being. And it looks like you, but it's not
Speaker 1: actually technically your life. But you are doing the work,
Speaker 1: and so I just want to understand if you can
Speaker 1: eric like, why that's so important to you to tell
Speaker 1: this story of this character. So there's there's like two
Speaker 1: fold answer to that. There are those characters where it's
Speaker 1: a personal challenge and the escape from yourself is really fun. So,
Speaker 1: for example, the role are you doing now on this show?
Speaker 1: The rookie? It's unlike a role I'm not. It's not
Speaker 1: a role I would normally get. It's it's the character
Speaker 1: is very far removed from my personality, my type of
Speaker 1: person everything, And to the point that I had worked
Speaker 1: with these people before, the pilot director and the producing
Speaker 1: you know, the producers, and they didn't think I was
Speaker 1: right for the role. They're like, you're you nice, You're
Speaker 1: two nice a guy, like you're a good guy, and
Speaker 1: you're not this guy. This guy is an asshole. And
Speaker 1: I'm like, mom, I'm my guys, it's acting. I can
Speaker 1: play this role like, this is the challenge, this is
Speaker 1: what I want. So being able to hone in and
Speaker 1: make that character for myself and develop it and you know,
Speaker 1: build it out and play this guy that's so far
Speaker 1: removed from who I am. Not necessarily a guy's life
Speaker 1: that I you know, admire, so to speak, but something
Speaker 1: that's still removed from me. I was able to go
Speaker 1: do that and be something I'm not and push myself
Speaker 1: to the ms degree and it paid off. And it
Speaker 1: was like that personal challenge is what made it so
Speaker 1: cool for me. That would be one reason to tell
Speaker 1: that story, right, And then the other the other thing
Speaker 1: is you come across scripts or you come across material
Speaker 1: where you either totally relate to that person as an
Speaker 1: individual or you don't have any idea of what they've
Speaker 1: gone through with their struggles and their life, and you're like,
Speaker 1: that is something I would love to share with a
Speaker 1: bigger audience because that is so and it's so compelling, Right,
Speaker 1: It's so cool to know that that's something I can share. Dude,
Speaker 1: That's that's amazing. I see it. Like I wanted to
Speaker 1: ask you that because I wanted you to like sort
Speaker 1: of change or help me change my perspective on on that.
Speaker 1: But that both of those are amazing. My question to
Speaker 1: you is do you do you find with the first one?
Speaker 1: You're playing a character that you don't that isn't naturally you,
Speaker 1: You don't agree even possibly with this character. Do you
Speaker 1: find any sort of natural conflict with yourself? Like, oh,
Speaker 1: I'm really not proud of this. Like what if your
Speaker 1: character had to you know, had to commit a crime
Speaker 1: or do something completely foul that you were just you,
Speaker 1: just in your real life vehemently against. But then your
Speaker 1: career you go and you portray that. Is there any
Speaker 1: internal conflict with that? Like with my current character, there
Speaker 1: has been. There have been moments where nothing that I
Speaker 1: would say would be more of like fun to try
Speaker 1: and act the way he's acting. That's not anything I've
Speaker 1: been super against. But for example, I had to I
Speaker 1: read recently for this a Ted Bundy movie, and there's
Speaker 1: a guy like everything in the material was horrific and
Speaker 1: I have, you know, two kids, and I have a daughter,
Speaker 1: and I'm reading everything and there was a moment where
Speaker 1: I was like, I just can't even go in for this.
Speaker 1: I can't. I don't think I can muster it in
Speaker 1: myself to try and portray this guy. But then there
Speaker 1: is the after side of me. But I also like
Speaker 1: to say, like the athletes side of me that makes
Speaker 1: me want to challenge myself and be like no, no, no no,
Speaker 1: you can do it. You can do it. Yeah, it's acting,
Speaker 1: it's acting, and get into that place of where you
Speaker 1: need to be in order to tell this guy's broken life.
Speaker 1: And it struggled, even though I have zero compassion for
Speaker 1: the him being that he was, but like trying to
Speaker 1: dig it and create it. It was weird. It was
Speaker 1: scary in a way because you're going down this path
Speaker 1: being super uncomfortable. And then yeah, and then and then
Speaker 1: also your wife will watch it, your kids it some day,
Speaker 1: we'll see it, your mom might see it. Friends will
Speaker 1: see it, and they'll see you, like visually, they'll see
Speaker 1: the person they know and love acting as somebody completely
Speaker 1: different with these different words and different actions that are
Speaker 1: maybe repulsive. And and for us that aren't actors, that's
Speaker 1: sometimes difficult and confusing to see the person that you
Speaker 1: love and the way you know them as somebody else
Speaker 1: on a screen and you're like, oh, like totally yeah.
Speaker 1: It's it's weird being on this side of it too,
Speaker 1: when you know somebody in the business. Yeah, I'm on
Speaker 1: a good doctor. I put a guy that was sexually
Speaker 1: harassing a nurse, you know, and like it was never
Speaker 1: would PV network television, But we didn't get that far
Speaker 1: that bad. But it's still not anything I would practice.
Speaker 1: And again, being a dad and being a you know,
Speaker 1: to a daughter, it's it's it's it's sad to see
Speaker 1: these things that go on out there, but and you
Speaker 1: find a way again to find those increep those challenges
Speaker 1: as an actor within your craft and it's fun to
Speaker 1: push it and no, okay, it's it's telling somebody's story
Speaker 1: and maybe it's bringing awareness for some people to look
Speaker 1: out for something like you don't want to be like
Speaker 1: that guy? Yeah, I get you. Yeah. Um. So the
Speaker 1: fact that your wife, Rosalind Sanchez, who is also an actress,
Speaker 1: is in the industry, does it do you guys have
Speaker 1: these discussions about a role prior to that And is
Speaker 1: it actually easier for you because she'll understand maybe the
Speaker 1: conflictions that you're having or your dilemma heading into a project. Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 1: Like for the Ted Bunny one, we talked at length
Speaker 1: about that because I was having a lot of issues
Speaker 1: internally about if I wanted to go in for this
Speaker 1: or not. So we talked about um and in general,
Speaker 1: we you know, well most things are on the table,
Speaker 1: but we'll talk about things as well, where like, let's
Speaker 1: say she has a role and it involved it involved
Speaker 1: a lot of nudity or something and be like, are
Speaker 1: you sure you want to do that? I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: not crazy about your doing it, but also you have
Speaker 1: kids and your mom now and are you comfortable like
Speaker 1: you said with them seeing this or knowing that that
Speaker 1: footage is going to be out there. Yeah, that's something
Speaker 1: you're okay doing. And I think at a at a
Speaker 1: point in her life, she might have been like, no problem,
Speaker 1: and now it gives it a second thought of going, Okay,
Speaker 1: do I need to show so much? I have a voice.
Speaker 1: I don't have to do what I'm not comfortable doing.
Speaker 1: The conversation that can be had, so we we try
Speaker 1: and talk to those things out. For sure, that's got
Speaker 1: to be helpful having somebody that understands that side of it, um,
Speaker 1: because those are those are real life decisions. Um. Yeah,
Speaker 1: being married doing actress is absolutely crazy because we're we're
Speaker 1: nucky people in that regard. But there is the helpful
Speaker 1: side of the person understanding what you do for a living.
Speaker 1: And it's totally different than if I'm just married to
Speaker 1: some I'm just going throw it out there a school
Speaker 1: teacher and I'm out shooting and I'm making out with
Speaker 1: all these women on a show, and she has to
Speaker 1: know that I'm doing that and it's just acting. It's
Speaker 1: not anything, nothing's gonna happen. Everything is cool. But because
Speaker 1: she can be in that position and she's do we
Speaker 1: know things too, there's understanding of like I know exactly
Speaker 1: what's happening on that, I know exactly what it feels like,
Speaker 1: I can relate. It's all good. Yeah, amazing, awesome, dude,
Speaker 1: thanks for that insight. That's um, I'm fascinated by that world.
Speaker 1: Just I admire and respect you guys so much for
Speaker 1: honoring the craft and the the work and the intent
Speaker 1: that goes into That's why I wanted to ask these questions,
Speaker 1: because there's so much more that goes into the the
Speaker 1: project than what we just see come across on the screen.
Speaker 1: And actually living into the actor's story behind why they
Speaker 1: wanted to portray this um character is actually really fascinating
Speaker 1: for me, So thank you for sharing some light on that. Um.
Speaker 1: We're gonna take a quick break and we're gonna be
Speaker 1: back with more from Mr Eric Winter right after this.
Speaker 1: Back from break. This is how men think. My name
Speaker 1: is Brooks like and we have Mr Eric inter with us,
Speaker 1: and during break we discovered our excellent, amazing producer Tory.
Speaker 1: I was wondering why Eric's audio was a little muffled.
Speaker 1: I guess it sounded bad the whole time, right, How
Speaker 1: wonderful does he sound right now, just say something, brother,
Speaker 1: Let's just give us a how howdy an the first
Speaker 1: time on how men think? And I sounded like the
Speaker 1: whole time. At least we corrected it halfway through. But
Speaker 1: you guys listening can't see this. But Eric has this gorgeous,
Speaker 1: glorious beard, and he had air pods in and his
Speaker 1: air pods were kind of like scratching into his beard
Speaker 1: a little bit. And because this thing is so glorious,
Speaker 1: it dampens all the sound. Um, there's the problem. I'm
Speaker 1: not I'm not usually a beard guy, especially not this
Speaker 1: thick of a beard guy. This is a this is
Speaker 1: new territory for me, so I'm not figuring it out.
Speaker 1: You should be a beard guy because it looks incredible
Speaker 1: on you do it. Thanks, man, I'm trying. I'm trying
Speaker 1: to catch up to your beard. I want to get there.
Speaker 1: I got to hear about that story because that's listening
Speaker 1: times a length of mine. Let's talk about yours versus.
Speaker 1: You're traditionally not a beard guy. You're usually a clean
Speaker 1: shaven guy. I'm always a scruff guy. I don't like
Speaker 1: to clean shave. I like to have something some facial hair. Um,
Speaker 1: but usually at this point I've gotten already irritated and
Speaker 1: I'm like it's tickling my lip or it's bugging me here,
Speaker 1: and I've I've given up and I've shaved it. Or
Speaker 1: also with acting, you know, it's it's specific to a
Speaker 1: degree on how I look. So a certain role might
Speaker 1: come up and I was like clean, you know whatever,
Speaker 1: certain lawyer, and I might think, Okay, I got a
Speaker 1: shave for this this audition or this role. Yeah, like
Speaker 1: on my current show, Um, I should be completely clean
Speaker 1: shaving because I'm a cop. Uh. We cheated a little
Speaker 1: bit because it's TV cops, so I had a little
Speaker 1: bit of stubble. But I could never rock a beard
Speaker 1: like this because as an l APD officer, you can't
Speaker 1: have a beard. Yeah. Ah man, I played for a
Speaker 1: team one time my first twelve years in the NHL.
Speaker 1: We could do whatever we want with our facial hair
Speaker 1: did not matter. So that's one thing I loved about
Speaker 1: hockey is I never had to shave. My dad ship
Speaker 1: He was a principle. He shaved every single day of
Speaker 1: his life, and I was just like, I just don't
Speaker 1: think I can ever shave every day in my life.
Speaker 1: I prefer not to shave. So I played twelve years
Speaker 1: one way, could do whatever I wanted with my facial hair.
Speaker 1: All of a sudden got traded and the very next
Speaker 1: day I had to cut my hair because we weren't
Speaker 1: allowed any hair showing outside of our hockey helmet, and
Speaker 1: I had to shave. Their like clean shaven, and the
Speaker 1: New York Yankees are like this, or they at least
Speaker 1: they used to be. I don't know if they still are.
Speaker 1: You had to be clean shaven, So I hated it.
Speaker 1: When I played in Toronto, I hated the fact that
Speaker 1: our management made us cut our hair a certain way
Speaker 1: and be clean shaven every single day, and not an
Speaker 1: NHL thing strictly management that was strictly that organization saying
Speaker 1: you had to do that directly and only that organization.
Speaker 1: It was the only one in the NHL that governed
Speaker 1: what players can do with their hair and face, and
Speaker 1: it piste me off. I hated it. Yeah, especially when
Speaker 1: it's get your expression and what you're doing and how
Speaker 1: you feel, and you know, even sometimes it might make
Speaker 1: you feel just different as a player when you go
Speaker 1: out there, mentality, whatever, you know, big time, dude, if
Speaker 1: you see me like if if you see me now
Speaker 1: with this four months patch of of Idaho brush on
Speaker 1: my face. Um, if I'm lining up to you, lining
Speaker 1: up next to you on the ice, maybe you're a
Speaker 1: newer guy in the league or something, and I'm looking
Speaker 1: at you like this, and I got stern eyes and
Speaker 1: I'm leaning into you, breathing on you, talking in your ear,
Speaker 1: trying to like tell you I'm gonna rip your head
Speaker 1: off or something. It's different when you facial hair on.
Speaker 1: I just have this beautifully shaved face. Like, Yeah, you
Speaker 1: can't convey the same message. You can try. But when
Speaker 1: a guy lines up and he's got a badass beard,
Speaker 1: you just immediately think this guy is tougher. You just
Speaker 1: makes perfect sense. Wow. I never thought about that though. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I so right now is the longest in my life
Speaker 1: that I've ever had beard. My beard is probably if
Speaker 1: I would pull a hair out, it's probably like two
Speaker 1: to three inches. Um. Probably, what's your goal. You're gonna
Speaker 1: go through full quarantine until you shave or what? What's
Speaker 1: your what's your plan? I have no idea, to be honest.
Speaker 1: I just like two months ago I kind of got
Speaker 1: lazy and just didn't shave it. And then I'm like, well,
Speaker 1: it's actually pretty long. I wonder, like, just let it
Speaker 1: go and see how long it gets. And then we
Speaker 1: got into quarantine and now I'm like, it really doesn't
Speaker 1: matter now, and so then it hit a point where
Speaker 1: it was the longest I've ever had it in my life,
Speaker 1: so I just kind of let it go. Um And
Speaker 1: last week we did a poll on our how men
Speaker 1: think Instagram, and of our listeners voted that I should
Speaker 1: shave it. So apparently it's not that visually appealing. But
Speaker 1: producer Tory and producer Danielle are on my side. They say,
Speaker 1: don't shave it, go for it, go for it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Big fan Tour. Do you like facial hair on a man?
Speaker 1: I do. I will say I think I prefer Eric's
Speaker 1: length right now, then maybe Brooks, But that doesn't mean
Speaker 1: I'm against all facial hair. I just think that if
Speaker 1: I'm looking at you too, I think the length of
Speaker 1: Eric's is good. But I think it just shows like
Speaker 1: manliness on both ends, so I like it. I'm like,
Speaker 1: that's a strong man right there. I have no chance
Speaker 1: in this isn't he's a model. You're comparing me against
Speaker 1: a professional model, an actor, or I have no chance
Speaker 1: in this fight. Hey, you guys are both equally good
Speaker 1: looking biased opinion, and I genuinely do think your your
Speaker 1: beards look great. I will say this, so Eric, yours
Speaker 1: is how long? Would you say? Yours is like? Maybe
Speaker 1: I stop? I stopped shaving when we've wrapp how long
Speaker 1: is it? Yeah? Inch? Maybe quarters of an inch? And
Speaker 1: tak you need to grow it. I'm a slow grower
Speaker 1: when it comes to facial hair. This is like, uh,
Speaker 1: I wrapped March six, So since March six? Okay, so
Speaker 1: now so a few months? Yeah? Um, does your wife
Speaker 1: like it? She loves it, She likes a lot. It's
Speaker 1: actually been shockingly pretty well received. I've had, you know,
Speaker 1: as I post things on social media for whatever, people
Speaker 1: are like the beard, the beard. I love the beard,
Speaker 1: and my agents are actually like, you gotta keep the beard.
Speaker 1: You gotta keep the beard. I was like, I don't
Speaker 1: know how long, but for a little while, I think
Speaker 1: it looks outstanding, dude, and you you Because there's some
Speaker 1: guys who grow beards. There's an art to like manicuring beards.
Speaker 1: I should do like a YouTube video on this too,
Speaker 1: because there's guys that just grow it. And they let
Speaker 1: everything go um and then it just kind of looks
Speaker 1: scraggly and it doesn't. And I'm getting to that point,
Speaker 1: so I want to hear your art because I don't
Speaker 1: well like cleaning up the cheeks a little bit like so,
Speaker 1: because you'll get scraggly hairs up up higher on the cheeks,
Speaker 1: but cleaning up a nice line of the cheeks underneath
Speaker 1: the neck, so it's not just growth everywhere under the neck.
Speaker 1: There's certain areas there's a line that you clean up
Speaker 1: under the neck. And then also what I do with
Speaker 1: mine is on the sides of the mustache to to
Speaker 1: so that the mustache doesn't just blend right into the
Speaker 1: cheap beard side. I shave a little bit just on
Speaker 1: the side of the mustache just to like give a
Speaker 1: little shape so it comes down on the cheek line.
Speaker 1: Shave in here a little bit. And then the key
Speaker 1: one is under the lip, under your bottom lip, on
Speaker 1: the sides, shaving a little patch on both sides just
Speaker 1: to give some space and a little more definition. And
Speaker 1: I learned that one when I got a shave in Paris.
Speaker 1: I was at this awesome hotel, Hotel Creon in Paris
Speaker 1: um and I forgot. I went to Europe for like
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks and I forgot my buzzer. Am
Speaker 1: I like my hair, my face? I'm like, how did
Speaker 1: I forget that? Anyway, So I went down to the
Speaker 1: lobby and I got this lady in this lobby, this
Speaker 1: beautiful hotel. It's a Rosewood hotel, really amazing hotel. And
Speaker 1: she gave me the best shave of my life. And
Speaker 1: she taught me so much about this about shaping and
Speaker 1: grooming a man's beard, so that there's a you convey
Speaker 1: this like this maturity and this poise and this strength
Speaker 1: through the beard. And so I can't I can't remember
Speaker 1: what her name was, but I thank her for so
Speaker 1: much of that knowledge. Do you use like the oils
Speaker 1: and all that kind of stuff? I did. I I
Speaker 1: didn't bring it with me to my lake house, but
Speaker 1: I used to. Yeah, because I get really scraggly and
Speaker 1: really and then it looks bad and that also feels bad.
Speaker 1: So I do use a beard oil. Um, it softens
Speaker 1: it and makes it feel better. And then also your
Speaker 1: beard just doesn't go out to the side. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: that's what happens, Like you get these scragglers that grow out.
Speaker 1: Do you clip those? Are you supposed to keep brushing
Speaker 1: those down? Now? So I brush them down. And then
Speaker 1: also on the sides, so when your beard starts to
Speaker 1: grow out horizontally, I'll take a buzzer and I'll trim
Speaker 1: the side down, especially up by the job bone, like
Speaker 1: the cheekbone, um, close by the ears. I'll trim that down,
Speaker 1: and I'll trim it and guide it so that it
Speaker 1: becomes longer down at the chin, so under the chin,
Speaker 1: I'm not trimming, but on the sides of the face
Speaker 1: so it doesn't just sprout out. Trim nose down and
Speaker 1: keep those kind of tighter so it makes your face
Speaker 1: kind of longer, and and points the beard downward versus
Speaker 1: pointing the beard straight out to the side straight out.
Speaker 1: Screams like Lumberjack. To me, I feel like we're going
Speaker 1: in a different directions, like the whole rounded you know, dude.
Speaker 1: Two days ago, this is true story. Two days ago,
Speaker 1: my uncle was out here helping me do some yardwork
Speaker 1: out of my lag house and it was hot as hell.
Speaker 1: I had my shirt off, just pants on, boots on,
Speaker 1: I had my shirt off, I had work gloves on,
Speaker 1: and I um face was just messed up. We were moving.
Speaker 1: We probably moved like ten fifteen thousand pounds of rock,
Speaker 1: just just a mess. And um face was muddy and dirty, sweaty,
Speaker 1: and I had to grab a sledgehammer to break up
Speaker 1: some rock. And he goes, wait, this is too this
Speaker 1: is too good because shirtless dude, sweaty, muddy face, big beard,
Speaker 1: just a mass, gloves on, sledge hammer over the shoulder.
Speaker 1: He's just just taking these pictures. He's like, I'm holding
Speaker 1: these is like ransom against you. Like, dude, that is
Speaker 1: so freaquent, stereotypical. Don't ever let that see the light
Speaker 1: of day. Um. But he goes, he goes, at least
Speaker 1: you didn't pose this shot, brother, And I was like,
Speaker 1: this is real truth. That is funny. Yeah, but I
Speaker 1: like having a beard, man, I think you should keep yours.
Speaker 1: I'm enjoying it. I'm gonna try some of these tips,
Speaker 1: probably uh this weekend and try and shape up the sides.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna see what I can get into without screwing
Speaker 1: it up. I know something that did start trying to
Speaker 1: do that and they screwed it up. It took off
Speaker 1: like half the beard. Then you're done, buddy, I've done that.
Speaker 1: I have done that before. So I don't like how
Speaker 1: I look when I don't have a beard, like clean shaven.
Speaker 1: I really don't like that look. I'll be like you like,
Speaker 1: I'll shave down to like just a light scruff, which
Speaker 1: Tori you said you like. Um. But one time I
Speaker 1: think I was like, I think I had a date
Speaker 1: or something and I was like, oh, I'm gonna clean
Speaker 1: this up. I'm gonna clean up, make a nice little
Speaker 1: shape here, and I just actually went and I'm like,
Speaker 1: oh God, no, oh dear, i gotta shave my face
Speaker 1: because I can't go like this. It's over confidence. Out
Speaker 1: the windows of work. Put in just gone the side
Speaker 1: of the hand. Yeah, I have a question, Um, boys,
Speaker 1: this is going to get maybe a little personal, But
Speaker 1: how do you feel when a female has more, um like,
Speaker 1: unshaved parts versus being more natural? Do you if you
Speaker 1: get what I'm saying, if you girls more natural down there,
Speaker 1: let's say, like hairy legs or like kind of just
Speaker 1: like goes more natural. I mean, let's specifically like down there,
Speaker 1: if a lady doesn't really trim it up, how do
Speaker 1: you feel or do you I also hear opposite where
Speaker 1: guys don't like it when a girl is completely clean
Speaker 1: down there, because I feel like it's kind of like
Speaker 1: she's too young, feeling almost. But what's the feedback on that? Free?
Speaker 1: What an interesting question you want to answer for I'm
Speaker 1: letting you go with that, bro. Look, I am all
Speaker 1: for good uh grooming down below. I think it's better
Speaker 1: for the overall experience. I think it's better all overall visually.
Speaker 1: I think groom it up look clean. Um, I don't.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it has to be squeaky clean, like nothing,
Speaker 1: nice little landing strip. It's great. Um, But I think
Speaker 1: you go. I think letting ship get all crazy and
Speaker 1: wild free it is not. It's too much. So I
Speaker 1: just echo all of what he said there. And it
Speaker 1: also shouldn't be growing down to the thighs from there.
Speaker 1: And you know, it shouldn't be brave, not today's age.
Speaker 1: Um Um, I A are it will say, Also, though
Speaker 1: I'm I'm totally up for freedom of expression. I was
Speaker 1: in a yoga class the other day and not the
Speaker 1: other day. I've been in Idaho for six weeks or something,
Speaker 1: but I was in a yoga class a couple of
Speaker 1: months ago, and this lady in there had hairy armpits
Speaker 1: and what And I'm just like, I didn't, I did
Speaker 1: not care. It's I hadn't seen. I think that was
Speaker 1: the first time that I've really fully seen that in public.
Speaker 1: You see it in like photos or something on the internet,
Speaker 1: but I think that was the first time i'd really
Speaker 1: been She was like five feet away from me. Um.
Speaker 1: And so I am fully on board with freedom expression.
Speaker 1: It's her body. She can do whatever she wants, and
Speaker 1: it makes no difference to me. But it was just
Speaker 1: the first time that I had kind of seen that well.
Speaker 1: And I would agree with you on that front as well.
Speaker 1: I think people should feel feel as comfortable as they
Speaker 1: want to feel and look how they want to look.
Speaker 1: It just wouldn't be my cup of tea. If if
Speaker 1: I'm like, we're playing deal Breaker and some girl came
Speaker 1: up and she's like she's smoking hot, but she's just
Speaker 1: got like armp and hair blasting out, I'm out. I
Speaker 1: don't think I can get into it. Yeah, I really
Speaker 1: don't think I could. We we had this saying in hockey, um,
Speaker 1: look good, feel good, play good, and so I would
Speaker 1: play much better if she had no hair in her
Speaker 1: Armits tory what about what about you for a man, Like, okay,
Speaker 1: facial hair, so you like kind of some facial hair
Speaker 1: and and like semi groomed facial hair, but like, what
Speaker 1: about the rest of a man's body, like a hairy
Speaker 1: back or hairy arms or hairy leg like or or
Speaker 1: not grooming his parts? What about not grooming his parts
Speaker 1: a little bit? I do like some semi kept up
Speaker 1: groom parts. I don't I don't need it like kind
Speaker 1: of you guys said squeaky clean, but I do like
Speaker 1: it to feel like I'm not getting into the weeds
Speaker 1: of things when I'm down there. Um. But I will
Speaker 1: say I would prefer a hairy man versus the awkward
Speaker 1: shaved man. And I don't mean when it's like clean,
Speaker 1: but when you start feeling a little bit of the
Speaker 1: bristles come back or the awkward grow out period, I
Speaker 1: would rather you just be natural than have that awkward
Speaker 1: stubble where you're like, I can start testing You're like,
Speaker 1: why do I feel like these are my shaved legs
Speaker 1: that I haven't shaved in like a couple of days.
Speaker 1: Like I don't like that. Um. Question for both of you,
Speaker 1: do you think personal grooming has kind of gone out
Speaker 1: the window during this quarantine time, but when there is
Speaker 1: no one I have to hold me accountable. So uh yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that'd be a big part of it, right
Speaker 1: Like I I think it's gone out a little bit,
Speaker 1: but then yeah, I've still got to maintain enough in
Speaker 1: my household. Yeah, I mean, you're with your quarantine with
Speaker 1: your wife and kid. I get it. But I think
Speaker 1: in general, um, a lot of people have kind of
Speaker 1: like some people some people have talked to, have really
Speaker 1: liked this phase where they can try. Like you said, Eric,
Speaker 1: you can try also just because your career not not
Speaker 1: acting right now affords you the opportunity to try growing
Speaker 1: a beard where maybe for professional reasons you couldn't. So
Speaker 1: a lot of people right now are experimenting with different things.
Speaker 1: People are dyeing the hair different color, um, trying all
Speaker 1: these different things that maybe they couldn't before, which I like. Um.
Speaker 1: The one thing that I hate about right now about
Speaker 1: having not had a haircut in two months, one my
Speaker 1: hair looks awful, but to my eyebrows are so freaking
Speaker 1: My eyebrows go grow so fast. And Jill Buck is
Speaker 1: my hairstylist in l A. Jill, I miss you. So
Speaker 1: much because Jill always trims up my eyebrows and it's
Speaker 1: like even I'm like, I can't even see right now. No,
Speaker 1: I'm going to get some some scissors out and like
Speaker 1: cut my eyebrows because they just go so so freaking
Speaker 1: I am with you on the haircut part too. I
Speaker 1: miss not getting the haircut regularly because that's I like
Speaker 1: having tight sides and being cleaned up and I oh,
Speaker 1: my hair is so thick that it just becomes mine too,
Speaker 1: And there's for me, dude, there is something so therapeutic
Speaker 1: about getting a haircut. It's like my favorite thirty minutes
Speaker 1: of the month. Yeah, like when Jill cuts my hair,
Speaker 1: I'm just like, I'm just like, it's the most relaxing,
Speaker 1: therapeutic thirty minutes. I absolutely love it. I understand like
Speaker 1: why why women go to the hair salon thousand times.
Speaker 1: This is actually a great transition because Amy, Danielle Um
Speaker 1: and I all wrote up questions to ask you guys,
Speaker 1: and so one of them was the least favorite thing
Speaker 1: about this whole self quarantine thing happening um, which I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna label that as your guys lack of hair cuts.
Speaker 1: And then we're gonna go. What's your favorite part of
Speaker 1: actually being stuck at home? These are rapid fire to
Speaker 1: keep responses quick because we've got a few more to
Speaker 1: get through. Go ahead, Eric, favorite favorite part about being
Speaker 1: home has probably been just the down I mean, the
Speaker 1: family time, the down down family time, just hanging out
Speaker 1: and everybody being the other. Mine. That's awesome, dude, I
Speaker 1: love it. Um. I love that you have a wife
Speaker 1: and a boy and a girl. I think that's just so.
Speaker 1: I'm not a father, but I can't wait to be
Speaker 1: there one day. So UM, I think it's just so cool.
Speaker 1: That's got to be just so much fun. Um. Mine
Speaker 1: is uh spending time outside like I've been outside just
Speaker 1: pouring the tory. We've talked abou this on the podcast.
Speaker 1: I'm up at lake house, um, and I've just been
Speaker 1: pouring love, literally pouring love into my property and shaping
Speaker 1: it and sculpting it. Um for generations, for to host family,
Speaker 1: to host family and friends and people out here at
Speaker 1: this magical spot that means so much to me. I
Speaker 1: want to be able to share that and have them
Speaker 1: feel an emotion of love and beauty and nature when
Speaker 1: they come to the lake House. That's awesome. Fifteen years
Speaker 1: together from two different countries and very different points of
Speaker 1: view about well pretty much everything to bringing you, he said.
Speaker 1: We talked about so many things, and yeah, most of
Speaker 1: the time we don't agree, but hey, we make it work.
Speaker 1: Join us and be a part of this crazy and
Speaker 1: beautiful adventure called listen to, he said, adio on iHeart radio, app,
Speaker 1: Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcast ros best
Speaker 1: pickup line a girl I can say to a guy?
Speaker 1: Oh wow, Eric, you get more of those than I
Speaker 1: do on the spot. You know, here's one that I
Speaker 1: always loved. Um. I don't know if it's a girl
Speaker 1: can say to a guy, but it was. It was
Speaker 1: a pickup line that at least at least made me laugh. Um,
Speaker 1: can I at least get a wrong number? It's just
Speaker 1: like kind of like, hey, can I at least get
Speaker 1: a wrong number? It just kind of breaks they that's good. Oh,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna struggle with this and I don't know, uh best,
Speaker 1: I mean, just in general, Uh, I don't have a
Speaker 1: funny one. I would just say. I've had girls saying
Speaker 1: hey can I can I buy you a drink? And
Speaker 1: I think, to me, that always feels like wow, that's so.
Speaker 1: I'm almost taking it back and shocked at first, Like
Speaker 1: you want to buy me a drink? Yeah, hell yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll hang out with you and have a drink and
Speaker 1: it just we start chat. I see that. Um there's
Speaker 1: another good one. Um. I've never seen a I've never
Speaker 1: had it happen to me, but I've seen guys do it. Um.
Speaker 1: So like say Eric and I are at a bar together, Tori, Um,
Speaker 1: say I would walk over to you and I'd be like, hi, Um,
Speaker 1: my name is Brooks, and do you see my friend
Speaker 1: over there, the guy with ruggedly handsome guy over there
Speaker 1: with the beard there, blue shirt. Well, he wants to
Speaker 1: know if you think I'm attractive. That's great, So it
Speaker 1: kind of it's kind of just a little spin on
Speaker 1: what they think because usually probably girls, somebody will approach
Speaker 1: a girl and have them try and set them up
Speaker 1: with or have the guy try and set them up
Speaker 1: with a friend. But I like, I like to flip
Speaker 1: on the wing man, have to wring men at the
Speaker 1: distance and do your own. That's great. Let's spin it
Speaker 1: a little bit also and ask for the girls out
Speaker 1: there who are on Instagram more so than not ready
Speaker 1: to slide into a man's d MS. What's the way
Speaker 1: to not to stand out but not be overly aggressive? Um? Wow,
Speaker 1: So here's one. Here's one that that I kind of
Speaker 1: that that's like, I don't know if I'm misinterpreting it,
Speaker 1: but let me just say it. Um, sometimes I'll get
Speaker 1: this because I read all my d m s because
Speaker 1: I try and respond to as many people and help
Speaker 1: people in as many ways as possible. Um, a lot
Speaker 1: of people reach out with health or fitness questions or
Speaker 1: just anything like that. I try and help my community
Speaker 1: and as much as I possibly can. So I read
Speaker 1: through all of that stuff. Um, and that's what that's
Speaker 1: honestly the intent behind it. But sometimes you get stuff
Speaker 1: like that. And one that I seem to get that's
Speaker 1: a sly I actually kind of have respect for. It.
Speaker 1: Is like I love your pop, I have a lab
Speaker 1: two or what every would love to have a play date?
Speaker 1: You know, it's good, a relatable topic, something to bring
Speaker 1: it in. Yeah, they're kind of just like linking the
Speaker 1: dogs together but saying it's a play date for the dogs,
Speaker 1: but is it a play date for us? Kind of thing,
Speaker 1: And I'm like, well, you know, I'm married. Um yeah,
Speaker 1: but so that's maybe just me misinterpreting it as a
Speaker 1: come on. Maybe they are just like, hey, you have
Speaker 1: an awesome dog. I want my dog to meet your dog. Um,
Speaker 1: maybe that's it, but I don't know, that's a that's
Speaker 1: a subtle, sly way that maybe I'm just like interpreting
Speaker 1: that way for my own vanity. You're getting what a no.
Speaker 1: I I actually would would agree with that. I like
Speaker 1: the straight up just someone being honest and trying to
Speaker 1: relate to a you know, an interest that you both
Speaker 1: may share. But then right after definitely sent a hot
Speaker 1: picture out so we can get a good look this, Tori,
Speaker 1: I all send one back if if, if we're into
Speaker 1: each other one Tori. I have no idea how this
Speaker 1: is the least subtle way, but I have no idea
Speaker 1: why this happens. Like I don't know, I don't want
Speaker 1: to say a lot, but this happens. You just get
Speaker 1: a message that just says hi daddy, and it's got
Speaker 1: like the tongue or something, and you're like, what the hell?
Speaker 1: What like no delete? It's not a question. I can't
Speaker 1: I can't serve your mission in some way. I don't
Speaker 1: know what you're doing here, but delete guys secretly kind
Speaker 1: of like to be called daddy. Oh no, I have
Speaker 1: a buddy. I have a buddy that loves it, like
Speaker 1: really just loves it. He just loves it. He just
Speaker 1: everything like that he loves but um no, not it's
Speaker 1: not my thing. And then did daddy talk either? All right?
Speaker 1: Next question? Hold on, Tory, Can I ask you a question?
Speaker 1: How how would you subtly, but with like a hint
Speaker 1: of intent, slide into a man's MS. So I slid
Speaker 1: into someone's dams for the first time ever, let's hear it.
Speaker 1: Can you tell the whole story? I don't even know
Speaker 1: how I stumbled upon his uh instead, but he plays
Speaker 1: football and I'm Christian and so he and he's like
Speaker 1: very open about his faith, and so I just said, hey,
Speaker 1: like super cool, like this photo, like would love to
Speaker 1: hear like your testimony because my dad found his relationship
Speaker 1: with the Lord in the NFL, Like, would love to
Speaker 1: hear how that happened to you. I never heard back.
Speaker 1: He hasn't seen it. But I also like, but I
Speaker 1: don't know how to slide into dns. I've never done it.
Speaker 1: I'm like, do I send it if he hasn't seen it?
Speaker 1: But isn't that the hard thing when on Instagram because
Speaker 1: you could follow someone, if they don't follow you, then
Speaker 1: your d M goes to like a separate box. So
Speaker 1: unless they regularly checked that other box, you don't know
Speaker 1: what's being written ever, right, So if you do, if
Speaker 1: you read all yours brook, you actually go and you
Speaker 1: put it into like general or primary like you shifted
Speaker 1: over right, you accepted, but you go into that other
Speaker 1: one and then from there I'll put into primary or general.
Speaker 1: You accept it and then then allow the dialogue. That's
Speaker 1: the thing. Should I follow him? Yeah, it won't. He won't.
Speaker 1: You'll still be in that other box though, unless he
Speaker 1: follows you, then it will automatically move you into primary,
Speaker 1: So you should follow him. Mean, Primary is just the
Speaker 1: epitome of my dating life, Like that should just be
Speaker 1: my life title, like stuck in primary General? Okay. The
Speaker 1: last person you have texted, um, where's my phone? I
Speaker 1: don't even know where my phone is. Last person I
Speaker 1: texted was my cast? Yeah, my mine was my cast.
Speaker 1: Because we're doing a home we're doing a home con
Speaker 1: like these comic con things, we're doing one that's at
Speaker 1: home virtually this weekend. Super cool um, Tory, Mine was
Speaker 1: to you and Danielle about this show. I said, hey,
Speaker 1: I'm on the call, can we jump on? Um? But
Speaker 1: previous to that, my buddy tran Um, it's like a
Speaker 1: brother to me. Corey was planning on coming up to
Speaker 1: the lake House here to rock and roll for a
Speaker 1: few days. So we were texting about that. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: no good ones. We have no juice for you on
Speaker 1: that way, all right. I just think, Um, if you
Speaker 1: had to give up one thing for nine weeks, what
Speaker 1: would it be? Sex or working out? We're working out.
Speaker 1: I love working out. I love working out, but I
Speaker 1: love sex far more. Oh. I mean that's a really
Speaker 1: tough one for me, truthfully, like not to just be
Speaker 1: an idiot dude and just say yeah, I love sex,
Speaker 1: So yeah, I'd give up. Looking out is like very
Speaker 1: important to me. But I'm also I've been up at
Speaker 1: the lake House for i know, five six weeks, so
Speaker 1: I've given up sex, you know. But if oh man,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to put myself if if both are readily available,
Speaker 1: so like saying I'm at home, um and you can
Speaker 1: work out or h and we're talking, let's make it
Speaker 1: even harder. No sex, No, masturbation or nothing. Nothing I
Speaker 1: was and then working out would mean I guess not
Speaker 1: even like picking rocks up in the backyard, like no exercise.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, have you guys seen the show
Speaker 1: Too Hot to Handle on Netflix? No, I haven't seen.
Speaker 1: I've passed through it, but I haven't seen it yet.
Speaker 1: So Tor, you've seen it, right, So it's it's no sex,
Speaker 1: no kissing, no no sexual touching, um you know, no masturbation,
Speaker 1: all that kind of thing. And they're supposed to try
Speaker 1: and do it for thirty days. So um posed with
Speaker 1: those two. If you went with those kind of um restrictions, Eric,
Speaker 1: I'd probably go on. I'd have to give up the
Speaker 1: working out you have working out? Yeah, but being married,
Speaker 1: what is the longest time you've ever gone without having sex?
Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe like a few weeks, couple a
Speaker 1: couple of weeks. We're probably gonna fight part of it, probably,
Speaker 1: Um yeah, I don't know. M hm. Well, also if
Speaker 1: you're out of town, so I've been out of town
Speaker 1: for at least three weeks before, so then it's been
Speaker 1: even longer than that. Yeah, if you're going with that,
Speaker 1: I mean I remember there was times of like not
Speaker 1: seeing um my wife for like five weeks, you know,
Speaker 1: just with when I was playing hockey and stuff, there
Speaker 1: was times where because I was playing in a different
Speaker 1: city that she was living. So um, yeah, I think
Speaker 1: that's kind of like almost I mean, that's just a
Speaker 1: different question for our careers a little bit. You know
Speaker 1: what else you got Tea that was the last one story?
Speaker 1: Can we ask you a question? Of course? Will you
Speaker 1: publicly state this gentleman's name that you d M and
Speaker 1: and how can Eric and I put our full weight
Speaker 1: behind making this connection happen? Well, jeez, if we're going
Speaker 1: to do that, then I got to pick somebody good. Actually,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to like, I don't remember his name. Have
Speaker 1: you then? Have you since then? Sort of? Well, I
Speaker 1: guess your Your message to him was kind of unique,
Speaker 1: but have you since then? Just copy and pasted that message?
Speaker 1: Copy this merriage sounds good. I'm just gonna roll this
Speaker 1: out to Hunter dudes and see what we end up
Speaker 1: with here, because I really don't slide into people's dams,
Speaker 1: but lately I've been like feeling a little lonely and
Speaker 1: probably a little horny, and so I'm, like I said,
Speaker 1: in this guy's damn. And then it didn't work out.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, well, is this the best tactic? So,
Speaker 1: but what would you do right now? In quarantine? So
Speaker 1: he responds and he's like, I'm into this. Do you say,
Speaker 1: how long have you been away from have you tested yourself?
Speaker 1: Bring your coronavirus ass over here and let's look up
Speaker 1: what you do virtual date. I've always kind of liked
Speaker 1: a little bit of a rebel. So if he's willing
Speaker 1: to break some laws and rules and government regulations, kind
Speaker 1: of hot, so, so you'd invite him in. You do
Speaker 1: that full like gloves and masks, and you guys will
Speaker 1: start the date that way until you feel comfortable that
Speaker 1: he's gotten would you temperature check? Oh? Man? Yeah, I
Speaker 1: guess we'd have to quarantine for fourteen days, Like you
Speaker 1: couldn't really do anything in that fourteen days. This is tough,
Speaker 1: you know, send this DM? You're right, no, don't. Don't
Speaker 1: you dare ever unsend that DM. I mean you could
Speaker 1: do the virtual date, which I've seen people doing there
Speaker 1: having like the zoom cocktail hour and talking. But then
Speaker 1: if you've also been feeling horny, what if it escalates
Speaker 1: rather quickly? I mean, are you guys, I wait longer
Speaker 1: than fourteen days to do that, but I don't mind
Speaker 1: a little messing around. So fourteen days of zoom, bless you.
Speaker 1: Fourteen days of zoom, and then what happens? Are you
Speaker 1: guys like topless on the next zoom? Are you sure
Speaker 1: playing strip poker in the next zoom? What happens? Eric,
Speaker 1: he's not even responding. Alright, we're gonna get you there.
Speaker 1: We're trying to prep you for that moment. This is
Speaker 1: what we do. We prep Tori. We prepped for the
Speaker 1: moment so that when the moment arrives, you arrive with it.
Speaker 1: I will try d m N a few more people.
Speaker 1: If I hear back, then I will come to you
Speaker 1: guys and ask for advice. Can we be on that
Speaker 1: first zoom? Absolutely? Five minutes? Persolutely? You can fleet them
Speaker 1: out for me my bigger brothers. Yeah, Eric, and I
Speaker 1: will moderate these zoom calls. Um Uh, Tori, I have
Speaker 1: I find it hard to believe that you have now,
Speaker 1: just for the first time ever, slid into a d
Speaker 1: M I've never I mean, I've done like my friends.
Speaker 1: But um so here's a question for you, truthful question
Speaker 1: and for our listeners. For everybody listening. Why is there
Speaker 1: such a stereotype in this stigma behind that it's a
Speaker 1: negative thing to slide into somebody's d M. It's it's
Speaker 1: saying hi and making contact with a stranger. We at
Speaker 1: some point everybody is a stranger, right if you meet
Speaker 1: like you and Rosalind Eric were strangers until you met
Speaker 1: in real life. You met in real life. Tor is
Speaker 1: meeting somebody digitally, Why is that any or perceived to
Speaker 1: be of lesser value or shady or whatever, then meeting
Speaker 1: somebody in real life when you're still both strangers and
Speaker 1: this is just the first contact. I mean, my my
Speaker 1: guess is the reason it gets a bad rap is
Speaker 1: that people typically associated with you slid into a d
Speaker 1: M of somebody who's in a relationship, but you would
Speaker 1: never know really, Like, I've never associated that. That's the
Speaker 1: first time I've heard that. It's the only reason I
Speaker 1: would think that it would be associated with any kind
Speaker 1: of negative thing, because I agree with you, like, but
Speaker 1: it's the difference of reaching out versus saying hi on
Speaker 1: the street and I don't I don't know you, or
Speaker 1: approach and saying hey, I'm so and so i'd like
Speaker 1: to you know chat whatever you're I'm in a relationship.
Speaker 1: But I think people often say, hey, slid into my
Speaker 1: DM and knowing that that person was in a relationship
Speaker 1: and they tried to slide it. I get you, Okay,
Speaker 1: I never thought of it that way, but yeah, I
Speaker 1: see what you're saying, Tori. I think it's also most
Speaker 1: of the time guys are like commenting on like the
Speaker 1: bathing suit pick or like girls or like the shirtless guy.
Speaker 1: So it's more like thirst trappy than being like I
Speaker 1: actually want to like pursue a conversation with you. Hold
Speaker 1: on another term that I've never heard, thirst trappy. I've
Speaker 1: never heard that either. First trap, but I added a p,
Speaker 1: so I heard of thirst trap. So any so are
Speaker 1: you saying that like say, say I was post my
Speaker 1: sledgehammer with no shirt and a rugged beard photo. That's
Speaker 1: thirst trappy? Yeah you know that. Um, the guy puts
Speaker 1: his hand behind the head and then like turns his
Speaker 1: torso a little bit in the mirror, and then it's
Speaker 1: like that ab pick in the mirror. Like that's the
Speaker 1: thirst trap. You're not just posting that to be like hey,
Speaker 1: so happy like Mother's like happy Mother's Day. It's like
Speaker 1: He's literally posting a picture so that girls want to
Speaker 1: slide in his DN then he can get his hook up. Eric.
Speaker 1: I want to say thank you so much, dude for
Speaker 1: coming on um one. I want you back. You're welcome
Speaker 1: back any time. Um. We'll give all the other guys
Speaker 1: boots because you were fantastic. I always have to do
Speaker 1: all the talking in the leg work because Gavin's never prepared.
Speaker 1: We don't even give him the show notes. He has
Speaker 1: no concept of what we're doing. So, uh, you're happy
Speaker 1: to take his chair. I'm just kidding, Gap. I love you, buddy,
Speaker 1: and I miss you, and Ryan, and Rick and Dmitri
Speaker 1: to Um, you are awesome Eric for people, UM, you're
Speaker 1: also a podcast host for our listeners. That's why you're
Speaker 1: so for our listeners. Where can people find your podcast?
Speaker 1: Our podcast is also with my Heart Radio and it's
Speaker 1: called he said, ayad ho that's he said. She said
Speaker 1: the Spanish flip uh basically about my with my wife
Speaker 1: Rosalind and I and we tackle everything from our complete
Speaker 1: opposite perspective on life. I mean, we couldn't be more
Speaker 1: polar opposites with everything we often. I mean this sounds
Speaker 1: like a big trute of the horn. But it's not.
Speaker 1: But we people actually say, you guys are like the
Speaker 1: Ricky and Lucy in a way, but like opposite. She's
Speaker 1: the Latin Lucy and I'm more like Ricky in the
Speaker 1: serious sense. And uh, we just talk about life and
Speaker 1: family and work and you know, relevant topics everything through
Speaker 1: our opposite lenses. It's a lot of fun. I appreciate that.
Speaker 1: I think, um, different points of views are very powerful
Speaker 1: within a relationship. They challenge you and make you grow
Speaker 1: and make you look at things outside of the way
Speaker 1: you see the world. Yeah, but it also it takes
Speaker 1: a strong person to be in that relationship because the
Speaker 1: person you're opposite, your partner, isn't just always agreeing with you. Yes,
Speaker 1: that's one of the things. And we find that, I
Speaker 1: mean we disagree on a lot. I mean obviously not everything,
Speaker 1: because we can make it. We make it work. But
Speaker 1: we we have enough in common with our humor and
Speaker 1: laughter about the way we handle everything. Um, that keeps
Speaker 1: it strong, keeps it fun. But when you talk to
Speaker 1: us about it, you know, all these other things and
Speaker 1: being such type a personalities both of us, you really
Speaker 1: see it come out in the podcast the way we
Speaker 1: riff on each other and it's it's just organic. It's
Speaker 1: who we are. So if you went on, yeah, you
Speaker 1: must some well work. I mean if you're in a partnership,
Speaker 1: obviously you you work together in life real well, um,
Speaker 1: but also you guys work together in career if you're
Speaker 1: doing this podcast. And also you did a children's book, right,
Speaker 1: you did children We wrote a children's book together called
Speaker 1: Sabella and Atlanta Cha Cha Cha, which was based on
Speaker 1: our daughter. And it was a dance book because there's
Speaker 1: no there aren't kids books out there that aren't just ballet.
Speaker 1: This is about Latin rhythm, so it was incorporating ballroom
Speaker 1: dancing into it. Man, Um, swee did that. We've produced
Speaker 1: movies together and and we actually came on on my
Speaker 1: show recently, The Rookie, and so we've we've partnered up
Speaker 1: a lot recently. It's been life. Yeah, that's gonna be
Speaker 1: that's gonna be a lot of fun to be able
Speaker 1: to do that. Yeah, it's been great. It's been great,
Speaker 1: and I really appreciate you having me on. Man, this
Speaker 1: is a fun podcast. And you guys, you've been you've
Speaker 1: been awesome. This is We'll have you back for sure.
Speaker 1: Where can people find you? Where do you hang out
Speaker 1: the most? On social media? Where can people that want
Speaker 1: to get more of your story and also tune into
Speaker 1: what you're working on the series that you're on. Where
Speaker 1: can people find you the most? Um? Instagram at eb Winter,
Speaker 1: Twitter at Eric Winter one, and then of course at
Speaker 1: he said a podcast. Yeah, buddy, okay, my man, thank
Speaker 1: you so much for joining us. Do keep going with
Speaker 1: that beard. I'm here for you if you have any questions, Um,
Speaker 1: keep going with that beard. It looks fantastic, and I
Speaker 1: wish you and your family the best of health and
Speaker 1: best wishes moving forward, and we'll see you back here
Speaker 1: on this show. My man. All right, brother, thank you
Speaker 1: the same. Thank you to our listeners everybody to take
Speaker 1: care out there, be safe until next week. Take care
Speaker 1: of one another, love one another, and we'll see you
Speaker 1: back here next week for another episode of How Men
Speaker 1: Think