1 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:06,760 Speaker 1: This is How Men Think? And and I heard radio podcasts. 2 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 1: Welcome to another episode of How Men Think. My name 3 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 1: is Brooks Like and I'm sad to say, for all 4 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 1: our Gavin DeGraf fans, we do not have Gavin DeGraw 5 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:21,080 Speaker 1: with us today. We also do not have Rick Ryan 6 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 1: or Dmitri and I know all two of Ryan's fans 7 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 1: are going to be disappointed that he's not here. But 8 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 1: for you guys, for everybody listening at home, we do 9 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 1: have a super special guest with us today. I am 10 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:37,600 Speaker 1: going to anoint him with co hosting privileges in lieu 11 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:42,600 Speaker 1: of absence, and I will dare to say that this 12 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 1: man is with no disrespect to any previous guests. This 13 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 1: is probably the most handsome man we have ever had 14 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 1: on this show. So unfortunately it's a podcast, but we're 15 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 1: doing this call by zoom and I want to introduce 16 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 1: you guys to Mr Eric Winter. How are you, buddy 17 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 1: good Man? Thank you for that intro that was that 18 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:08,759 Speaker 1: was pretty spectacular. Yeah, dude, I must know how men think. 19 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:13,559 Speaker 1: This is great. Happy to bring some knowledge. That's that's 20 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:15,959 Speaker 1: any For any of the females that know you, that 21 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 1: know the name Eric Winter, know you as a model, 22 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 1: know you as an actor. Um, they know, they're they're 23 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 1: probably thinking if this was how women think, they'd be 24 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:31,479 Speaker 1: probably saying you are the most handsome man. But I'll 25 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 1: just echo that statement and say that you're probably the 26 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 1: most handsome man we have ever had on this show. So, um, 27 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 1: you started your career. I want to dig into your 28 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:44,040 Speaker 1: career a little bit. You started your career as a model. Correct? 29 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 1: I did? I did? I was? You know I was. 30 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 1: I was, believe it or not. I want to be 31 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 1: a doctor. I was a pre med student at U 32 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:54,919 Speaker 1: c o A. Uh yeah. I started dating this girl 33 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 1: who was working on this TV show Clueless that used 34 00:01:58,040 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 1: to be around not the movie after the movie that 35 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 1: was the show, and she was like a recurring on 36 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 1: there and she had we met and she said, why 37 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 1: don't you modeled, interacting or do anything? And that you know, 38 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:09,359 Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm pursuing to be a doctor. So 39 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 1: give me some pictures of yourself. I want to submit 40 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:12,680 Speaker 1: with some friends of mine and see if they can 41 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:15,520 Speaker 1: help you out. I was like, okay, so I'm, you know, 42 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:17,639 Speaker 1: standing in my backyard and underwear like in front of 43 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 1: an old shed. Takeyas that I that I sent her, 44 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:25,800 Speaker 1: and I got lucky enough to get a manager who 45 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 1: then got me an agent fairly quickly, and um, it's 46 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 1: starting to become a profession. Within like a year, I 47 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 1: booked Tommy Hill figure campaign and then it became a job. 48 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 1: At that point, I didn't become a doctor. I never 49 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:39,080 Speaker 1: became a doctor. And then all of a sudden, you're 50 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 1: doing pictures with Britney Spears. Yeah, not a bad dig 51 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 1: my man. No man. It evolved from there. Yeah. I 52 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 1: went from acting the commercials and then uh, I got 53 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 1: like a big acting break doing a soap opera, Days 54 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 1: of Our Lives for one contract, which is a few years. 55 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:57,640 Speaker 1: And then I've hopped all over you know, film and 56 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:01,079 Speaker 1: television and currently doing the show The Rookie on ABC. 57 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:03,800 Speaker 1: It's been great right on. And then also in The 58 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 1: Good Doctor. So did some of that did you get 59 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 1: to fulfill? Like some of you are just missed out 60 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:13,800 Speaker 1: on dreams? Bye bye? That like acting in that series, 61 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 1: believe it or not, I've played a doctor like five 62 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 1: or six, the best fake doctor out there, dude, do 63 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:25,640 Speaker 1: do it? Catch me if you can go into some hospital. 64 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:29,079 Speaker 1: And I actually don't advise this because you know, out 65 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 1: of respect for the medical profession, but like you could 66 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 1: probably pull off and catch me if you can. Where 67 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 1: he goes in and acts like a doctor even though 68 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 1: he has no certifications for it. It's it's funny. It's funny. 69 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 1: I was able to fulfill that aspect of my life, 70 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 1: you know, hypothetically. Um, and it's been it's been cool, man, 71 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 1: I've been very fortunate. Um. What do you which one 72 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 1: do you enjoy more? The modeling side of it or 73 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 1: the acting side of it. You know. The one thing 74 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 1: about modeling that was for me always the most fun 75 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 1: is I'm I love to travel. So modeling gave me 76 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 1: like a free ticket to travel all over the world. 77 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 1: And and it was something you know, it always felt 78 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 1: so I don't know, like you're a model, and it 79 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 1: was like hey, you know, just the sound of it. 80 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:17,160 Speaker 1: But it was fun to sort of be out there 81 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:19,359 Speaker 1: and meet all these different people. I mean, living in 82 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:21,920 Speaker 1: Europe for six months, you know, chunks at a time 83 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 1: and just hopping on trains and jumping all over and 84 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 1: between jobs. So for me, it gave me the best 85 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 1: opportunity in the world to travel. It made it very 86 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:30,719 Speaker 1: difficult for school. I had to drop out of school 87 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 1: and then go back to school to finish UM because 88 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 1: being UM, I was a psychobiology major, and so being 89 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:38,600 Speaker 1: on the biology side of it, you know, you have 90 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:40,359 Speaker 1: these lab practic comes and these things when you go 91 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 1: to the teacher and say, hey, I gotta go do 92 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 1: a photo shoot and start dinya, is it okay if 93 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:46,479 Speaker 1: I just missed this test and I'll come back and 94 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:50,280 Speaker 1: make it up. And she'd be like, no, you're not 95 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 1: gonna roll around. But I rolled around from the girl 96 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 1: on the beach. Come on us, teachers, just like, only 97 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:02,039 Speaker 1: if you bring me um that is I agree with you. Though. 98 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:05,239 Speaker 1: Any profession like I was a professional athlete, professional hockey player, 99 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 1: any profession that provides you travel is that's such a blessing, 100 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 1: Like we get to do what we love, get to 101 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:15,159 Speaker 1: do something that you really enjoy. But then the added 102 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:21,160 Speaker 1: benefit of traveling and seeing different cities, cultures, countries, it's 103 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 1: such a blessing. So especially at that time in life, 104 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 1: you know, I'm in my twenties, it was amazing. It's 105 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 1: sort of be free and just jumping all over the 106 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 1: place and in place I never thought I would go 107 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 1: in my life. Because you know, modeally will take you 108 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 1: to random location. Do you have like your go to 109 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 1: pose and you go to look, do you still have 110 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:42,919 Speaker 1: a move And there's always a good catalog you know, 111 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:48,159 Speaker 1: just hands in the pocket, ah, looking down. We have 112 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 1: with our you have with us. You guys can't see 113 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 1: it because you guys are listening in your cars whatever, 114 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 1: but we have with this producer Tori, and Tori just 115 00:05:54,520 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 1: melted there when Eric went into these two. And now 116 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:05,559 Speaker 1: she's bussing you. You have like a repertoire. It's funny. 117 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 1: It's a standard joke. And you put you in your 118 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 1: catalog shooting because you're just standing in front of a 119 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 1: cameron that it's cluick click click click click, and you're 120 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 1: just wearing the same thing and and you're just jumping 121 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 1: different poses. You always have like your one two hand 122 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 1: in the pocket, look down, look up, look besides smile 123 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 1: grin series, Hey, just Rocas looks. It's so shallow, dude. 124 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 1: I never know what I'm doing when I have to 125 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 1: do like a red carpet and they're like stand like, 126 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 1: I'm like stand here and take a photo. I'm like, 127 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:36,040 Speaker 1: oh my god, Like what am I doing? Gavin Gavin 128 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:39,239 Speaker 1: Degras always does this one. He shoots the gun, he points, 129 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 1: he puts the figure out, and then it's just like 130 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 1: me laughing at Gavin. We're both insanely awkward. I'm not 131 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 1: sure why we're why we're on this car, but just 132 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 1: take a photo of us as we walk by. But 133 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 1: I always find it weird when um, and you probably 134 00:06:57,720 --> 00:06:59,840 Speaker 1: get this a lot when somebody's like can I take 135 00:06:59,839 --> 00:07:02,160 Speaker 1: a photo of you? And it's not can I take 136 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 1: a photo with you? It's of you and you're like, um, what, 137 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 1: you just want to take a photo of me? What 138 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 1: am I supposed to do here? Yeah? Like you get 139 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 1: in the picture. So we're one thing that drives you mad, 140 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 1: and I can I get it. But like you get 141 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 1: like fans that will come up to you and they're like, Wow, 142 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 1: where do I know you from? I'm like, well, if 143 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 1: you don't know that at the point of having this conversation, 144 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 1: I can't go through a rescue man thing where you 145 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 1: might know me from somewhere. We got a picture of you. 146 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 1: I know I know you from somewhere. I guess you don't. 147 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 1: I guess you don't. What do you do? What do 148 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 1: you do? And I said, they just want the photo anyway, 149 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 1: They're just like, yeah, come to me sometime and then 150 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 1: I'll upload it. And I got a picture with that guy. 151 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 1: Do you get that with sports too, because I mean 152 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 1: I'm a funding but anything with me and I was 153 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 1: never and even being in his business as an actor, 154 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 1: I don't get start struck very often with actors. With athletes, 155 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 1: that's like my jam because I'm a frustrating gonna played 156 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 1: sports my whole life. But I obviously didn't go pro. 157 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 1: That wasn't you know, my destiny to go that far. 158 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 1: But for me, meeting athletes was always like my big 159 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's so and so that's you know that. 160 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 1: So you know, you deal with the same thing all 161 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 1: the time, and it's you know, be there like oh 162 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 1: I love you for this this, you know whatever, you know, 163 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 1: team you're playing out the time or whatever the thing 164 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 1: is in hockey, and it's an awkward and uncomfortable but 165 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 1: flattering thing all at once. You're doing what you love. 166 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 1: These people are obsessed with you, dude, as a as 167 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 1: an athlete, I like fanboy over musicians. Oh really that's 168 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 1: my life. I that's funny. I love musicians like just 169 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 1: I think they're so talented and just I love music. 170 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 1: So much music is just it's it's in my soul. 171 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 1: And I played piano, I played drums, I played guitar. 172 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:54,200 Speaker 1: Not well enough to be in a band in any 173 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:58,559 Speaker 1: of those, but I just I really enjoy those as pastimes. Um. 174 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 1: And so every athlete wants to be a musician, and 175 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 1: every musician that I've got to know over the years 176 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 1: is like, oh, man, I'd rather be an athlete. You 177 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 1: what you guys do is so cool. I'm like, come on, man, 178 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 1: we both perform and sold out arenas, but nobody hits 179 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:16,200 Speaker 1: you guys. You know, like you don't get beat up 180 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:18,560 Speaker 1: every night, and you get people cheering your name all 181 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:20,840 Speaker 1: the time, versus half the time we're playing in a 182 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 1: way arenas and I'm getting booed all night. I was like, 183 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 1: I would rather be a musician. Um. But I also 184 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 1: think the musicians. And one thing I've always thought was 185 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 1: like that has to be the ultimate platform in a way, 186 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 1: like if you're are on stage, you know, eighty thousand 187 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 1: people or something just singing your song you wrote and 188 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 1: they're all looking at you and you're a solo act. 189 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 1: I mean that rush of adrenaline of taking a step 190 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 1: back and being outside your body and going, wow, I 191 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 1: accomplished this. That's pretty wild. Yeah. And what I what 192 00:09:56,600 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 1: I like about that profession too, if you look at 193 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 1: it on the macro, you can be a musician the 194 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 1: rest of your life. Like, one thing that I really 195 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:07,840 Speaker 1: miss being on the retired side of professional sport is 196 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 1: walking into a stadium of like jumping on the ice 197 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:17,440 Speaker 1: with twenty thousand people screaming. I missed the the magnitude 198 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 1: of a stadium feeling and everybody focused on what you're 199 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:24,320 Speaker 1: doing on the ice. And as a musician, you can 200 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 1: do that through your athletes were probably done in our 201 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 1: thirties most of us, um, and late thirties if you're 202 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 1: lucky and then but a musician can do at forties, fifties, 203 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 1: sixtiesies like and and that is just such a gift 204 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 1: to be able to do that. Um. But did you 205 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 1: did you stopped sports? Have you taken up other sports? 206 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:47,559 Speaker 1: Like you do? You know so many athletes take to 207 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 1: golf for it. I think it's like the hardest sport 208 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 1: for every athlete that they won't have accomplished. You know, golf. 209 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:54,960 Speaker 1: Do you have a thing that you do? I've I've 210 00:10:55,000 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 1: taken Yeah, I've taken up CrossFit more seriously because I've 211 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:04,080 Speaker 1: always loved the I've always loved the physical aspect of 212 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 1: hockey and physical training. I've always loved It's been a 213 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 1: part of my life since I was thirteen, and so 214 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 1: I need that in my like for my soul to 215 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 1: be expressed. I need that intense physical activity and challenge. 216 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 1: And I also just believe in a healthy lifestyle. But 217 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:22,320 Speaker 1: I love cross fit because it's every sort of movement 218 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 1: there is. You're gonna do powerlifting, Olympic lifting, you're gonna 219 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 1: do endurance, you're gonna do speed, you're gonna do gymnastics, 220 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 1: walk on your hand, pull ups, muscle ups like it's 221 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 1: it's touching on every component of fitness, not just strength 222 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 1: or not just endurance. And so I love the variety 223 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 1: of it all the I love the pursuit of what 224 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 1: the human body can do, and the variety within CrossFit 225 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:48,560 Speaker 1: is the best that I've ever found, and that's why 226 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 1: I've fallen in love with that sport. So kind of 227 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:55,320 Speaker 1: heavy into that and I love it. Um. But I 228 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:59,720 Speaker 1: I will say um, I am jealous of those who 229 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:05,960 Speaker 1: can adele and those who can act dude, because because truthfully, 230 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 1: if you ask somebody to model or to take a photo, 231 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 1: it's very difficult. What I was just speaking of, I 232 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 1: was like, I don't even know how to stand. But 233 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:17,960 Speaker 1: even even further to that, acting is one of the 234 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 1: I think, one of the absolute most difficult professions there 235 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 1: are to be able to convey. When I think about it, 236 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:28,680 Speaker 1: if I'm going to act, the reason I don't act 237 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 1: as is I want I can't, but also to like, 238 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 1: I don't know how to get outside of being myself. 239 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 1: I don't know how to mentally put myself into this 240 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:42,720 Speaker 1: mindset and mind frame of being somebody else and then 241 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 1: conveying beliefs and thoughts and emotions as that person when 242 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:50,440 Speaker 1: I'm not that person, which is what the actors and 243 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 1: actresses do. And so I tip my cap to you guys, 244 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 1: my friend. Did you have that natural sort of acting 245 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 1: ability as in your youth? So did you have to 246 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 1: develop that as you got older? I it was more 247 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:08,199 Speaker 1: of a you know, I always think with any profession 248 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 1: when it gets into like at a professional level, there's 249 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:12,959 Speaker 1: like a gift that you have, whether it's been tapped 250 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 1: or untapped at whatever point in your life. Right like 251 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 1: for a pro athlete to make it that far. You 252 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 1: had it in you. It's just a matter of when 253 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 1: it was tapped and it expressed itself and came out 254 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 1: and you fulfilled it and you nailed it. So I 255 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 1: think I've had aspects of it in my life, but 256 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 1: I wasn't pursuing it through high school or I was 257 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 1: never in drama. I was never chasing after it as 258 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 1: a dream. Like where my wife that was what she 259 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 1: wanted to do her whole life. She knew dance or 260 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 1: performer her whole life. Um, so I was afid. I 261 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:41,960 Speaker 1: put sports, hope did all that. I started taking drama 262 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 1: on colleges for fun, like an elective. Just I needed 263 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 1: needed an elective. That was it. And as I got 264 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:49,559 Speaker 1: started modeling, I said, you know what, I want to 265 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 1: start reading acting book. She started meeting different people are 266 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:53,320 Speaker 1: doing commercials and doing this at it, so I wanted 267 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:55,679 Speaker 1: her studying back and looking at those and I started 268 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:58,840 Speaker 1: taking various classes. And the hardest part is getting out 269 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:01,679 Speaker 1: of your your own head and getting in your way right, 270 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 1: like trying to clear your mind and ignore everybody that's 271 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:07,440 Speaker 1: staring at you. Why I would think Peter is one 272 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 1: of the most difficult of all the acting practices because 273 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:12,199 Speaker 1: everybody's looking at you. Just live and if you spep 274 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:14,960 Speaker 1: on you, there's no take too, there's nothing right. Much 275 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:18,960 Speaker 1: larger crowd than on the set, and uh. I remember 276 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 1: going through a couple of acting classes and being in 277 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:23,840 Speaker 1: one in particular where I had like this really heavy 278 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 1: sort of scene with this girl and it was like 279 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 1: an early acting class and she had been in it 280 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 1: longer and we're free with everything, and we're having this 281 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 1: makeout session on the couch, which is also weird in 282 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 1: front of a lot of people you don't know, and 283 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 1: we're making out of the couch. She pulls my shirt up, 284 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 1: struck biting on my nipples on one like, how is 285 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 1: it happening? And in my mind, I'm going to get 286 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 1: out of your head, get out of your head. Just 287 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 1: keep active, just keep active. But I'm going everybody in 288 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 1: classes staring at her biting on my nipples. So that 289 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 1: was one of my first experiences. I'm going, Okay, if 290 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 1: you want to do this, you better start to, you know, 291 00:14:57,240 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 1: remove yourself from the process. And I don't even know, Yeah, 292 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 1: how do you do that? Like how do you even separate? 293 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 1: Do you separate mind from body? And that or I 294 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 1: don't know, it's just super weird. When you start enjoying it, 295 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 1: you're like, well, it's girls kind of hot and she's 296 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 1: biting my nipple. But everybody's watching me right now. This 297 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 1: is even also weirder. So you're trying to like and 298 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 1: if you're not into it a little bit, then it's 299 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 1: then you can tell me you're asking right. You kind 300 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 1: of gotta be into it. Oh man, um it is 301 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 1: a true man, it is a true art though. Like 302 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 1: but some of the performances you see and most of 303 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 1: us are probably watching more TV now than than we 304 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 1: have in a while. But um, I credit you guys, 305 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 1: and because you you're able to convey and make us 306 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 1: believe that what is going on is real and true 307 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 1: in your life as a performer and being able to 308 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 1: translate that. Like you said, I think it's maybe easier 309 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 1: to translate that live in theater is maybe easy, but 310 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 1: you guys translated through digitally through a screen, which I 311 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 1: think is even more difficult to Um. So I don't know, 312 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 1: just kudo, see man, I have imagine for anybody, any 313 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 1: honestly truthfuly, any model or anybody that can act, because 314 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 1: those are very very difficult. Um, professions. Your favorite part 315 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 1: about it the adrenaline rush you definitely get when you're 316 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 1: getting into a character and putting that character on its 317 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 1: feet and you're in the performance. That adrenaline that can 318 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:36,200 Speaker 1: build up in certain roles is the best part about acting. 319 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 1: There's no question when you are becoming that character in 320 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 1: those moments and you're when you're fully in a scene 321 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 1: and there's like a thing I call it, you know, 322 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 1: when it clicks, like when it clicks in your mind 323 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 1: and you're out of what you how you think, and 324 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 1: you're out of the environment and you're in that feelings 325 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 1: an incredible feeling. So can I ask you a question 326 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 1: along with that? So that because that for me, I 327 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:06,199 Speaker 1: agree with everything you're saying and I understand it, but 328 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 1: I don't I'm not able to make that connection. Like 329 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 1: for me personally, um, like if I can athlete would 330 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:15,359 Speaker 1: be like if you're in the zone, like your zone 331 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 1: as an athlete, and you know, like you're on fire, 332 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:20,200 Speaker 1: like whatever you're doing that that that game, you're you're 333 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:22,400 Speaker 1: stopping everybody, you're doing this, you're hitting that goal, hitting 334 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:25,640 Speaker 1: whatever it's you when you're in a zone, and obviously 335 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 1: you can have off days, and you can act. You you 336 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 1: you can have better performances and worst performances, and the 337 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:32,640 Speaker 1: differences is we could save by an editor who can 338 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 1: cut it together and make it still look great. Yeah, 339 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:38,359 Speaker 1: you know, it's a flow state. We say it's a 340 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 1: flow states like that. Yeah, same thing. So, but what 341 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 1: I want to ask you is how how do you 342 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 1: make it? How does it become so important to you 343 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 1: to tell this other story? That's the part where it's 344 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 1: a disconnect for me. I think that's the one of 345 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 1: the reasons why I won't ever be an actor is 346 00:17:57,480 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 1: I don't have the desire to tell another story aside 347 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:03,400 Speaker 1: from my own. And maybe I'm a selfish human being 348 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:06,719 Speaker 1: in that regard, or I just like living my own story. 349 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:10,399 Speaker 1: But what I respect and admire about you guys is 350 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:14,359 Speaker 1: you have the unselfish desire to tell the story of 351 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 1: another being. And it looks like you, but it's not 352 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 1: actually technically your life. But you are doing the work, 353 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:22,960 Speaker 1: and so I just want to understand if you can 354 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:26,960 Speaker 1: eric like, why that's so important to you to tell 355 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:31,359 Speaker 1: this story of this character. So there's there's like two 356 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 1: fold answer to that. There are those characters where it's 357 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:40,680 Speaker 1: a personal challenge and the escape from yourself is really fun. So, 358 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 1: for example, the role are you doing now on this show? 359 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 1: The rookie? It's unlike a role I'm not. It's not 360 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 1: a role I would normally get. It's it's the character 361 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:50,720 Speaker 1: is very far removed from my personality, my type of 362 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:53,480 Speaker 1: person everything, And to the point that I had worked 363 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:56,440 Speaker 1: with these people before, the pilot director and the producing 364 00:18:56,640 --> 00:18:58,440 Speaker 1: you know, the producers, and they didn't think I was 365 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 1: right for the role. They're like, you're you nice, You're 366 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:03,119 Speaker 1: two nice a guy, like you're a good guy, and 367 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:05,879 Speaker 1: you're not this guy. This guy is an asshole. And 368 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 1: I'm like, mom, I'm my guys, it's acting. I can 369 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 1: play this role like, this is the challenge, this is 370 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:13,720 Speaker 1: what I want. So being able to hone in and 371 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 1: make that character for myself and develop it and you know, 372 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:20,440 Speaker 1: build it out and play this guy that's so far 373 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 1: removed from who I am. Not necessarily a guy's life 374 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 1: that I you know, admire, so to speak, but something 375 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 1: that's still removed from me. I was able to go 376 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:32,960 Speaker 1: do that and be something I'm not and push myself 377 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:35,159 Speaker 1: to the ms degree and it paid off. And it 378 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:37,919 Speaker 1: was like that personal challenge is what made it so 379 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 1: cool for me. That would be one reason to tell 380 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:43,479 Speaker 1: that story, right, And then the other the other thing 381 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:46,120 Speaker 1: is you come across scripts or you come across material 382 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:49,719 Speaker 1: where you either totally relate to that person as an 383 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 1: individual or you don't have any idea of what they've 384 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:55,439 Speaker 1: gone through with their struggles and their life, and you're like, 385 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 1: that is something I would love to share with a 386 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:03,239 Speaker 1: bigger audience because that is so and it's so compelling, Right, 387 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 1: It's so cool to know that that's something I can share. Dude, 388 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 1: That's that's amazing. I see it. Like I wanted to 389 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:14,960 Speaker 1: ask you that because I wanted you to like sort 390 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 1: of change or help me change my perspective on on that. 391 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 1: But that both of those are amazing. My question to 392 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:23,440 Speaker 1: you is do you do you find with the first one? 393 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 1: You're playing a character that you don't that isn't naturally you, 394 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:30,359 Speaker 1: You don't agree even possibly with this character. Do you 395 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:33,160 Speaker 1: find any sort of natural conflict with yourself? Like, oh, 396 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:35,359 Speaker 1: I'm really not proud of this. Like what if your 397 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 1: character had to you know, had to commit a crime 398 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:42,440 Speaker 1: or do something completely foul that you were just you, 399 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:48,120 Speaker 1: just in your real life vehemently against. But then your 400 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:50,400 Speaker 1: career you go and you portray that. Is there any 401 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 1: internal conflict with that? Like with my current character, there 402 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:59,119 Speaker 1: has been. There have been moments where nothing that I 403 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:01,440 Speaker 1: would say would be more of like fun to try 404 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:04,640 Speaker 1: and act the way he's acting. That's not anything I've 405 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:06,720 Speaker 1: been super against. But for example, I had to I 406 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:11,240 Speaker 1: read recently for this a Ted Bundy movie, and there's 407 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:14,280 Speaker 1: a guy like everything in the material was horrific and 408 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 1: I have, you know, two kids, and I have a daughter, 409 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 1: and I'm reading everything and there was a moment where 410 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 1: I was like, I just can't even go in for this. 411 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:25,480 Speaker 1: I can't. I don't think I can muster it in 412 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 1: myself to try and portray this guy. But then there 413 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 1: is the after side of me. But I also like 414 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 1: to say, like the athletes side of me that makes 415 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:35,960 Speaker 1: me want to challenge myself and be like no, no, no no, 416 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 1: you can do it. You can do it. Yeah, it's acting, 417 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 1: it's acting, and get into that place of where you 418 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 1: need to be in order to tell this guy's broken life. 419 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:49,159 Speaker 1: And it struggled, even though I have zero compassion for 420 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 1: the him being that he was, but like trying to 421 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:56,199 Speaker 1: dig it and create it. It was weird. It was 422 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 1: scary in a way because you're going down this path 423 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 1: being super uncomfortable. And then yeah, and then and then 424 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:06,720 Speaker 1: also your wife will watch it, your kids it some day, 425 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 1: we'll see it, your mom might see it. Friends will 426 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 1: see it, and they'll see you, like visually, they'll see 427 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:16,720 Speaker 1: the person they know and love acting as somebody completely 428 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 1: different with these different words and different actions that are 429 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 1: maybe repulsive. And and for us that aren't actors, that's 430 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 1: sometimes difficult and confusing to see the person that you 431 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 1: love and the way you know them as somebody else 432 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 1: on a screen and you're like, oh, like totally yeah. 433 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:37,680 Speaker 1: It's it's weird being on this side of it too, 434 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:40,720 Speaker 1: when you know somebody in the business. Yeah, I'm on 435 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 1: a good doctor. I put a guy that was sexually 436 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:45,920 Speaker 1: harassing a nurse, you know, and like it was never 437 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 1: would PV network television, But we didn't get that far 438 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:52,240 Speaker 1: that bad. But it's still not anything I would practice. 439 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:54,159 Speaker 1: And again, being a dad and being a you know, 440 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:58,480 Speaker 1: to a daughter, it's it's it's it's sad to see 441 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 1: these things that go on out there, but and you 442 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:03,679 Speaker 1: find a way again to find those increep those challenges 443 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:06,960 Speaker 1: as an actor within your craft and it's fun to 444 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 1: push it and no, okay, it's it's telling somebody's story 445 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:12,120 Speaker 1: and maybe it's bringing awareness for some people to look 446 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:13,480 Speaker 1: out for something like you don't want to be like 447 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:16,399 Speaker 1: that guy? Yeah, I get you. Yeah. Um. So the 448 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 1: fact that your wife, Rosalind Sanchez, who is also an actress, 449 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:23,119 Speaker 1: is in the industry, does it do you guys have 450 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:25,679 Speaker 1: these discussions about a role prior to that And is 451 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 1: it actually easier for you because she'll understand maybe the 452 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 1: conflictions that you're having or your dilemma heading into a project. Yeah, definitely. 453 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 1: Like for the Ted Bunny one, we talked at length 454 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 1: about that because I was having a lot of issues 455 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:41,479 Speaker 1: internally about if I wanted to go in for this 456 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 1: or not. So we talked about um and in general, 457 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:48,879 Speaker 1: we you know, well most things are on the table, 458 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:51,720 Speaker 1: but we'll talk about things as well, where like, let's 459 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:53,720 Speaker 1: say she has a role and it involved it involved 460 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:55,760 Speaker 1: a lot of nudity or something and be like, are 461 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:57,880 Speaker 1: you sure you want to do that? I mean, I'm 462 00:23:57,880 --> 00:23:59,879 Speaker 1: not crazy about your doing it, but also you have 463 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 1: kids and your mom now and are you comfortable like 464 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:04,480 Speaker 1: you said with them seeing this or knowing that that 465 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:06,600 Speaker 1: footage is going to be out there. Yeah, that's something 466 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:09,119 Speaker 1: you're okay doing. And I think at a at a 467 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:12,000 Speaker 1: point in her life, she might have been like, no problem, 468 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:14,359 Speaker 1: and now it gives it a second thought of going, Okay, 469 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 1: do I need to show so much? I have a voice. 470 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:19,680 Speaker 1: I don't have to do what I'm not comfortable doing. 471 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 1: The conversation that can be had, so we we try 472 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 1: and talk to those things out. For sure, that's got 473 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:28,960 Speaker 1: to be helpful having somebody that understands that side of it, um, 474 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:32,080 Speaker 1: because those are those are real life decisions. Um. Yeah, 475 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:36,160 Speaker 1: being married doing actress is absolutely crazy because we're we're 476 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:39,119 Speaker 1: nucky people in that regard. But there is the helpful 477 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:42,160 Speaker 1: side of the person understanding what you do for a living. 478 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:45,879 Speaker 1: And it's totally different than if I'm just married to 479 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:47,919 Speaker 1: some I'm just going throw it out there a school 480 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:50,159 Speaker 1: teacher and I'm out shooting and I'm making out with 481 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 1: all these women on a show, and she has to 482 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 1: know that I'm doing that and it's just acting. It's 483 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:58,280 Speaker 1: not anything, nothing's gonna happen. Everything is cool. But because 484 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:00,159 Speaker 1: she can be in that position and she's do we 485 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 1: know things too, there's understanding of like I know exactly 486 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:06,200 Speaker 1: what's happening on that, I know exactly what it feels like, 487 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:10,880 Speaker 1: I can relate. It's all good. Yeah, amazing, awesome, dude, 488 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:13,960 Speaker 1: thanks for that insight. That's um, I'm fascinated by that world. 489 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 1: Just I admire and respect you guys so much for 490 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:20,359 Speaker 1: honoring the craft and the the work and the intent 491 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 1: that goes into That's why I wanted to ask these questions, 492 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:26,359 Speaker 1: because there's so much more that goes into the the 493 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:29,719 Speaker 1: project than what we just see come across on the screen. 494 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:34,360 Speaker 1: And actually living into the actor's story behind why they 495 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 1: wanted to portray this um character is actually really fascinating 496 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:42,360 Speaker 1: for me, So thank you for sharing some light on that. Um. 497 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:44,480 Speaker 1: We're gonna take a quick break and we're gonna be 498 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 1: back with more from Mr Eric Winter right after this. 499 00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:58,040 Speaker 1: Back from break. This is how men think. My name 500 00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:00,920 Speaker 1: is Brooks like and we have Mr Eric inter with us, 501 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 1: and during break we discovered our excellent, amazing producer Tory. 502 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 1: I was wondering why Eric's audio was a little muffled. 503 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 1: I guess it sounded bad the whole time, right, How 504 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 1: wonderful does he sound right now, just say something, brother, 505 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 1: Let's just give us a how howdy an the first 506 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:20,960 Speaker 1: time on how men think? And I sounded like the 507 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:24,720 Speaker 1: whole time. At least we corrected it halfway through. But 508 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:30,240 Speaker 1: you guys listening can't see this. But Eric has this gorgeous, 509 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:34,199 Speaker 1: glorious beard, and he had air pods in and his 510 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 1: air pods were kind of like scratching into his beard 511 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:41,200 Speaker 1: a little bit. And because this thing is so glorious, 512 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 1: it dampens all the sound. Um, there's the problem. I'm 513 00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:47,320 Speaker 1: not I'm not usually a beard guy, especially not this 514 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:49,119 Speaker 1: thick of a beard guy. This is a this is 515 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:52,400 Speaker 1: new territory for me, so I'm not figuring it out. 516 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:55,880 Speaker 1: You should be a beard guy because it looks incredible 517 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:58,640 Speaker 1: on you do it. Thanks, man, I'm trying. I'm trying 518 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:00,199 Speaker 1: to catch up to your beard. I want to get there. 519 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:02,399 Speaker 1: I got to hear about that story because that's listening 520 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:05,480 Speaker 1: times a length of mine. Let's talk about yours versus. 521 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:07,560 Speaker 1: You're traditionally not a beard guy. You're usually a clean 522 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 1: shaven guy. I'm always a scruff guy. I don't like 523 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 1: to clean shave. I like to have something some facial hair. Um, 524 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,840 Speaker 1: but usually at this point I've gotten already irritated and 525 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,119 Speaker 1: I'm like it's tickling my lip or it's bugging me here, 526 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 1: and I've I've given up and I've shaved it. Or 527 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 1: also with acting, you know, it's it's specific to a 528 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:28,360 Speaker 1: degree on how I look. So a certain role might 529 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:30,240 Speaker 1: come up and I was like clean, you know whatever, 530 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:32,159 Speaker 1: certain lawyer, and I might think, Okay, I got a 531 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:35,439 Speaker 1: shave for this this audition or this role. Yeah, like 532 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:39,400 Speaker 1: on my current show, Um, I should be completely clean 533 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:42,160 Speaker 1: shaving because I'm a cop. Uh. We cheated a little 534 00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:44,120 Speaker 1: bit because it's TV cops, so I had a little 535 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:46,440 Speaker 1: bit of stubble. But I could never rock a beard 536 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:48,200 Speaker 1: like this because as an l APD officer, you can't 537 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:51,679 Speaker 1: have a beard. Yeah. Ah man, I played for a 538 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 1: team one time my first twelve years in the NHL. 539 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:56,160 Speaker 1: We could do whatever we want with our facial hair 540 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:58,960 Speaker 1: did not matter. So that's one thing I loved about 541 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 1: hockey is I never had to shave. My dad ship 542 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:03,280 Speaker 1: He was a principle. He shaved every single day of 543 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:05,480 Speaker 1: his life, and I was just like, I just don't 544 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:07,520 Speaker 1: think I can ever shave every day in my life. 545 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:10,600 Speaker 1: I prefer not to shave. So I played twelve years 546 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:12,680 Speaker 1: one way, could do whatever I wanted with my facial hair. 547 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,880 Speaker 1: All of a sudden got traded and the very next 548 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:18,600 Speaker 1: day I had to cut my hair because we weren't 549 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:22,160 Speaker 1: allowed any hair showing outside of our hockey helmet, and 550 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:24,920 Speaker 1: I had to shave. Their like clean shaven, and the 551 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 1: New York Yankees are like this, or they at least 552 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:28,640 Speaker 1: they used to be. I don't know if they still are. 553 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:31,919 Speaker 1: You had to be clean shaven, So I hated it. 554 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 1: When I played in Toronto, I hated the fact that 555 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:38,120 Speaker 1: our management made us cut our hair a certain way 556 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:41,280 Speaker 1: and be clean shaven every single day, and not an 557 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:44,720 Speaker 1: NHL thing strictly management that was strictly that organization saying 558 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:48,040 Speaker 1: you had to do that directly and only that organization. 559 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:50,320 Speaker 1: It was the only one in the NHL that governed 560 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 1: what players can do with their hair and face, and 561 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:58,680 Speaker 1: it piste me off. I hated it. Yeah, especially when 562 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:00,720 Speaker 1: it's get your expression and what you're doing and how 563 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:03,280 Speaker 1: you feel, and you know, even sometimes it might make 564 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:05,160 Speaker 1: you feel just different as a player when you go 565 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 1: out there, mentality, whatever, you know, big time, dude, if 566 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:11,640 Speaker 1: you see me like if if you see me now 567 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 1: with this four months patch of of Idaho brush on 568 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:20,320 Speaker 1: my face. Um, if I'm lining up to you, lining 569 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:22,320 Speaker 1: up next to you on the ice, maybe you're a 570 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:24,240 Speaker 1: newer guy in the league or something, and I'm looking 571 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 1: at you like this, and I got stern eyes and 572 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:28,880 Speaker 1: I'm leaning into you, breathing on you, talking in your ear, 573 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 1: trying to like tell you I'm gonna rip your head 574 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:35,320 Speaker 1: off or something. It's different when you facial hair on. 575 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:40,600 Speaker 1: I just have this beautifully shaved face. Like, Yeah, you 576 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:44,160 Speaker 1: can't convey the same message. You can try. But when 577 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:46,560 Speaker 1: a guy lines up and he's got a badass beard, 578 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,440 Speaker 1: you just immediately think this guy is tougher. You just 579 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:54,480 Speaker 1: makes perfect sense. Wow. I never thought about that though. Yeah, 580 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:59,200 Speaker 1: I so right now is the longest in my life 581 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:01,440 Speaker 1: that I've ever had beard. My beard is probably if 582 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:04,400 Speaker 1: I would pull a hair out, it's probably like two 583 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 1: to three inches. Um. Probably, what's your goal. You're gonna 584 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 1: go through full quarantine until you shave or what? What's 585 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 1: your what's your plan? I have no idea, to be honest. 586 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 1: I just like two months ago I kind of got 587 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:19,120 Speaker 1: lazy and just didn't shave it. And then I'm like, well, 588 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:21,360 Speaker 1: it's actually pretty long. I wonder, like, just let it 589 00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:22,760 Speaker 1: go and see how long it gets. And then we 590 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:25,320 Speaker 1: got into quarantine and now I'm like, it really doesn't 591 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:27,600 Speaker 1: matter now, and so then it hit a point where 592 00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:29,520 Speaker 1: it was the longest I've ever had it in my life, 593 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:32,440 Speaker 1: so I just kind of let it go. Um And 594 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:34,560 Speaker 1: last week we did a poll on our how men 595 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:37,760 Speaker 1: think Instagram, and of our listeners voted that I should 596 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 1: shave it. So apparently it's not that visually appealing. But 597 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 1: producer Tory and producer Danielle are on my side. They say, 598 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:50,560 Speaker 1: don't shave it, go for it, go for it. Yeah, 599 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:53,080 Speaker 1: Big fan Tour. Do you like facial hair on a man? 600 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 1: I do. I will say I think I prefer Eric's 601 00:30:56,840 --> 00:31:00,640 Speaker 1: length right now, then maybe Brooks, But that doesn't mean 602 00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:03,600 Speaker 1: I'm against all facial hair. I just think that if 603 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:05,400 Speaker 1: I'm looking at you too, I think the length of 604 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:08,120 Speaker 1: Eric's is good. But I think it just shows like 605 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:11,480 Speaker 1: manliness on both ends, so I like it. I'm like, 606 00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:14,640 Speaker 1: that's a strong man right there. I have no chance 607 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:18,960 Speaker 1: in this isn't he's a model. You're comparing me against 608 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 1: a professional model, an actor, or I have no chance 609 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:24,840 Speaker 1: in this fight. Hey, you guys are both equally good 610 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:28,880 Speaker 1: looking biased opinion, and I genuinely do think your your 611 00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:32,360 Speaker 1: beards look great. I will say this, so Eric, yours 612 00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:34,040 Speaker 1: is how long? Would you say? Yours is like? Maybe 613 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:37,240 Speaker 1: I stop? I stopped shaving when we've wrapp how long 614 00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:42,680 Speaker 1: is it? Yeah? Inch? Maybe quarters of an inch? And 615 00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:45,760 Speaker 1: tak you need to grow it. I'm a slow grower 616 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:49,080 Speaker 1: when it comes to facial hair. This is like, uh, 617 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:54,400 Speaker 1: I wrapped March six, So since March six? Okay, so 618 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:57,840 Speaker 1: now so a few months? Yeah? Um, does your wife 619 00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:01,000 Speaker 1: like it? She loves it, She likes a lot. It's 620 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:04,240 Speaker 1: actually been shockingly pretty well received. I've had, you know, 621 00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:06,320 Speaker 1: as I post things on social media for whatever, people 622 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:08,040 Speaker 1: are like the beard, the beard. I love the beard, 623 00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:10,720 Speaker 1: and my agents are actually like, you gotta keep the beard. 624 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:12,440 Speaker 1: You gotta keep the beard. I was like, I don't 625 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:15,600 Speaker 1: know how long, but for a little while, I think 626 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:18,880 Speaker 1: it looks outstanding, dude, and you you Because there's some 627 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:22,440 Speaker 1: guys who grow beards. There's an art to like manicuring beards. 628 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:24,480 Speaker 1: I should do like a YouTube video on this too, 629 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:26,600 Speaker 1: because there's guys that just grow it. And they let 630 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:29,480 Speaker 1: everything go um and then it just kind of looks 631 00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:31,760 Speaker 1: scraggly and it doesn't. And I'm getting to that point, 632 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:33,240 Speaker 1: so I want to hear your art because I don't 633 00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:36,600 Speaker 1: well like cleaning up the cheeks a little bit like so, 634 00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:40,080 Speaker 1: because you'll get scraggly hairs up up higher on the cheeks, 635 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:42,680 Speaker 1: but cleaning up a nice line of the cheeks underneath 636 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:45,440 Speaker 1: the neck, so it's not just growth everywhere under the neck. 637 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:47,640 Speaker 1: There's certain areas there's a line that you clean up 638 00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:50,040 Speaker 1: under the neck. And then also what I do with 639 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:53,600 Speaker 1: mine is on the sides of the mustache to to 640 00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,200 Speaker 1: so that the mustache doesn't just blend right into the 641 00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:00,400 Speaker 1: cheap beard side. I shave a little bit just on 642 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:02,600 Speaker 1: the side of the mustache just to like give a 643 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:04,720 Speaker 1: little shape so it comes down on the cheek line. 644 00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:06,880 Speaker 1: Shave in here a little bit. And then the key 645 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:10,480 Speaker 1: one is under the lip, under your bottom lip, on 646 00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:15,320 Speaker 1: the sides, shaving a little patch on both sides just 647 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:18,360 Speaker 1: to give some space and a little more definition. And 648 00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:21,640 Speaker 1: I learned that one when I got a shave in Paris. 649 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:25,280 Speaker 1: I was at this awesome hotel, Hotel Creon in Paris 650 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,640 Speaker 1: um and I forgot. I went to Europe for like 651 00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,360 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks and I forgot my buzzer. Am 652 00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:34,440 Speaker 1: I like my hair, my face? I'm like, how did 653 00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:36,280 Speaker 1: I forget that? Anyway, So I went down to the 654 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:38,640 Speaker 1: lobby and I got this lady in this lobby, this 655 00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:43,920 Speaker 1: beautiful hotel. It's a Rosewood hotel, really amazing hotel. And 656 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:46,640 Speaker 1: she gave me the best shave of my life. And 657 00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:49,360 Speaker 1: she taught me so much about this about shaping and 658 00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:53,880 Speaker 1: grooming a man's beard, so that there's a you convey 659 00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:59,840 Speaker 1: this like this maturity and this poise and this strength 660 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:02,720 Speaker 1: through the beard. And so I can't I can't remember 661 00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:04,760 Speaker 1: what her name was, but I thank her for so 662 00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:07,080 Speaker 1: much of that knowledge. Do you use like the oils 663 00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:09,440 Speaker 1: and all that kind of stuff? I did. I I 664 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:10,960 Speaker 1: didn't bring it with me to my lake house, but 665 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,319 Speaker 1: I used to. Yeah, because I get really scraggly and 666 00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:15,839 Speaker 1: really and then it looks bad and that also feels bad. 667 00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:19,680 Speaker 1: So I do use a beard oil. Um, it softens 668 00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:21,560 Speaker 1: it and makes it feel better. And then also your 669 00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:24,120 Speaker 1: beard just doesn't go out to the side. Yeah, so 670 00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:26,560 Speaker 1: that's what happens, Like you get these scragglers that grow out. 671 00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:28,800 Speaker 1: Do you clip those? Are you supposed to keep brushing 672 00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:31,000 Speaker 1: those down? Now? So I brush them down. And then 673 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,279 Speaker 1: also on the sides, so when your beard starts to 674 00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:36,560 Speaker 1: grow out horizontally, I'll take a buzzer and I'll trim 675 00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:39,000 Speaker 1: the side down, especially up by the job bone, like 676 00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:42,600 Speaker 1: the cheekbone, um, close by the ears. I'll trim that down, 677 00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:44,520 Speaker 1: and I'll trim it and guide it so that it 678 00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:47,600 Speaker 1: becomes longer down at the chin, so under the chin, 679 00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:50,080 Speaker 1: I'm not trimming, but on the sides of the face 680 00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:53,560 Speaker 1: so it doesn't just sprout out. Trim nose down and 681 00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:55,879 Speaker 1: keep those kind of tighter so it makes your face 682 00:34:55,960 --> 00:35:01,160 Speaker 1: kind of longer, and and points the beard downward versus 683 00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:03,520 Speaker 1: pointing the beard straight out to the side straight out. 684 00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:06,200 Speaker 1: Screams like Lumberjack. To me, I feel like we're going 685 00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:10,800 Speaker 1: in a different directions, like the whole rounded you know, dude. 686 00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:13,920 Speaker 1: Two days ago, this is true story. Two days ago, 687 00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,080 Speaker 1: my uncle was out here helping me do some yardwork 688 00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:18,480 Speaker 1: out of my lag house and it was hot as hell. 689 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:21,040 Speaker 1: I had my shirt off, just pants on, boots on, 690 00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:23,040 Speaker 1: I had my shirt off, I had work gloves on, 691 00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:26,239 Speaker 1: and I um face was just messed up. We were moving. 692 00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:28,640 Speaker 1: We probably moved like ten fifteen thousand pounds of rock, 693 00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:33,640 Speaker 1: just just a mess. And um face was muddy and dirty, sweaty, 694 00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:36,440 Speaker 1: and I had to grab a sledgehammer to break up 695 00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:39,879 Speaker 1: some rock. And he goes, wait, this is too this 696 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:44,320 Speaker 1: is too good because shirtless dude, sweaty, muddy face, big beard, 697 00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:47,920 Speaker 1: just a mass, gloves on, sledge hammer over the shoulder. 698 00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:52,480 Speaker 1: He's just just taking these pictures. He's like, I'm holding 699 00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:56,680 Speaker 1: these is like ransom against you. Like, dude, that is 700 00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:59,680 Speaker 1: so freaquent, stereotypical. Don't ever let that see the light 701 00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:02,239 Speaker 1: of day. Um. But he goes, he goes, at least 702 00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:04,560 Speaker 1: you didn't pose this shot, brother, And I was like, 703 00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:09,080 Speaker 1: this is real truth. That is funny. Yeah, but I 704 00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:11,800 Speaker 1: like having a beard, man, I think you should keep yours. 705 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,120 Speaker 1: I'm enjoying it. I'm gonna try some of these tips, 706 00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:17,920 Speaker 1: probably uh this weekend and try and shape up the sides. 707 00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:20,440 Speaker 1: I'm gonna see what I can get into without screwing 708 00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:22,840 Speaker 1: it up. I know something that did start trying to 709 00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:24,279 Speaker 1: do that and they screwed it up. It took off 710 00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:27,920 Speaker 1: like half the beard. Then you're done, buddy, I've done that. 711 00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:31,040 Speaker 1: I have done that before. So I don't like how 712 00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:33,880 Speaker 1: I look when I don't have a beard, like clean shaven. 713 00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:36,080 Speaker 1: I really don't like that look. I'll be like you like, 714 00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:38,680 Speaker 1: I'll shave down to like just a light scruff, which 715 00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:41,960 Speaker 1: Tori you said you like. Um. But one time I 716 00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:44,239 Speaker 1: think I was like, I think I had a date 717 00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:45,919 Speaker 1: or something and I was like, oh, I'm gonna clean 718 00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:47,760 Speaker 1: this up. I'm gonna clean up, make a nice little 719 00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:50,880 Speaker 1: shape here, and I just actually went and I'm like, 720 00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:53,959 Speaker 1: oh God, no, oh dear, i gotta shave my face 721 00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:58,799 Speaker 1: because I can't go like this. It's over confidence. Out 722 00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:02,800 Speaker 1: the windows of work. Put in just gone the side 723 00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:07,400 Speaker 1: of the hand. Yeah, I have a question, Um, boys, 724 00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:09,879 Speaker 1: this is going to get maybe a little personal, But 725 00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:17,480 Speaker 1: how do you feel when a female has more, um like, 726 00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:24,120 Speaker 1: unshaved parts versus being more natural? Do you if you 727 00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:29,479 Speaker 1: get what I'm saying, if you girls more natural down there, 728 00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:33,160 Speaker 1: let's say, like hairy legs or like kind of just 729 00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:37,399 Speaker 1: like goes more natural. I mean, let's specifically like down there, 730 00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:39,080 Speaker 1: if a lady doesn't really trim it up, how do 731 00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:42,040 Speaker 1: you feel or do you I also hear opposite where 732 00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:44,239 Speaker 1: guys don't like it when a girl is completely clean 733 00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:46,000 Speaker 1: down there, because I feel like it's kind of like 734 00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:51,879 Speaker 1: she's too young, feeling almost. But what's the feedback on that? Free? 735 00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:55,359 Speaker 1: What an interesting question you want to answer for I'm 736 00:37:55,440 --> 00:38:00,160 Speaker 1: letting you go with that, bro. Look, I am all 737 00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:06,040 Speaker 1: for good uh grooming down below. I think it's better 738 00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:09,120 Speaker 1: for the overall experience. I think it's better all overall visually. 739 00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:14,200 Speaker 1: I think groom it up look clean. Um, I don't. 740 00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:16,960 Speaker 1: I'm not saying it has to be squeaky clean, like nothing, 741 00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:21,719 Speaker 1: nice little landing strip. It's great. Um, But I think 742 00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:25,800 Speaker 1: you go. I think letting ship get all crazy and 743 00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:29,239 Speaker 1: wild free it is not. It's too much. So I 744 00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:31,920 Speaker 1: just echo all of what he said there. And it 745 00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:34,600 Speaker 1: also shouldn't be growing down to the thighs from there. 746 00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:38,160 Speaker 1: And you know, it shouldn't be brave, not today's age. 747 00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:42,040 Speaker 1: Um Um, I A are it will say, Also, though 748 00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:45,640 Speaker 1: I'm I'm totally up for freedom of expression. I was 749 00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:47,759 Speaker 1: in a yoga class the other day and not the 750 00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:50,040 Speaker 1: other day. I've been in Idaho for six weeks or something, 751 00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:51,680 Speaker 1: but I was in a yoga class a couple of 752 00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:54,840 Speaker 1: months ago, and this lady in there had hairy armpits 753 00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:57,200 Speaker 1: and what And I'm just like, I didn't, I did 754 00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:00,920 Speaker 1: not care. It's I hadn't seen. I think that was 755 00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:03,880 Speaker 1: the first time that I've really fully seen that in public. 756 00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:06,040 Speaker 1: You see it in like photos or something on the internet, 757 00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:08,279 Speaker 1: but I think that was the first time i'd really 758 00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:10,920 Speaker 1: been She was like five feet away from me. Um. 759 00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:15,240 Speaker 1: And so I am fully on board with freedom expression. 760 00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:17,400 Speaker 1: It's her body. She can do whatever she wants, and 761 00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:19,480 Speaker 1: it makes no difference to me. But it was just 762 00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:21,839 Speaker 1: the first time that I had kind of seen that well. 763 00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:24,520 Speaker 1: And I would agree with you on that front as well. 764 00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:27,759 Speaker 1: I think people should feel feel as comfortable as they 765 00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:29,160 Speaker 1: want to feel and look how they want to look. 766 00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:31,160 Speaker 1: It just wouldn't be my cup of tea. If if 767 00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:33,719 Speaker 1: I'm like, we're playing deal Breaker and some girl came 768 00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:35,759 Speaker 1: up and she's like she's smoking hot, but she's just 769 00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:39,800 Speaker 1: got like armp and hair blasting out, I'm out. I 770 00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:41,960 Speaker 1: don't think I can get into it. Yeah, I really 771 00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:45,920 Speaker 1: don't think I could. We we had this saying in hockey, um, 772 00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:50,040 Speaker 1: look good, feel good, play good, and so I would 773 00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:52,319 Speaker 1: play much better if she had no hair in her 774 00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:57,600 Speaker 1: Armits tory what about what about you for a man, Like, okay, 775 00:39:57,600 --> 00:39:59,719 Speaker 1: facial hair, so you like kind of some facial hair 776 00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:04,200 Speaker 1: and and like semi groomed facial hair, but like, what 777 00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:06,440 Speaker 1: about the rest of a man's body, like a hairy 778 00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:11,279 Speaker 1: back or hairy arms or hairy leg like or or 779 00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:13,960 Speaker 1: not grooming his parts? What about not grooming his parts 780 00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:16,600 Speaker 1: a little bit? I do like some semi kept up 781 00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:18,560 Speaker 1: groom parts. I don't I don't need it like kind 782 00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:20,360 Speaker 1: of you guys said squeaky clean, but I do like 783 00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:24,000 Speaker 1: it to feel like I'm not getting into the weeds 784 00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:27,439 Speaker 1: of things when I'm down there. Um. But I will 785 00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:32,960 Speaker 1: say I would prefer a hairy man versus the awkward 786 00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:35,439 Speaker 1: shaved man. And I don't mean when it's like clean, 787 00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:37,080 Speaker 1: but when you start feeling a little bit of the 788 00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:40,640 Speaker 1: bristles come back or the awkward grow out period, I 789 00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:44,719 Speaker 1: would rather you just be natural than have that awkward 790 00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:47,680 Speaker 1: stubble where you're like, I can start testing You're like, 791 00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:49,720 Speaker 1: why do I feel like these are my shaved legs 792 00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:51,439 Speaker 1: that I haven't shaved in like a couple of days. 793 00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:56,680 Speaker 1: Like I don't like that. Um. Question for both of you, 794 00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:59,839 Speaker 1: do you think personal grooming has kind of gone out 795 00:40:59,880 --> 00:41:10,560 Speaker 1: the window during this quarantine time, but when there is 796 00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:15,520 Speaker 1: no one I have to hold me accountable. So uh yeah, 797 00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:16,879 Speaker 1: I think that'd be a big part of it, right 798 00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:19,640 Speaker 1: Like I I think it's gone out a little bit, 799 00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:23,480 Speaker 1: but then yeah, I've still got to maintain enough in 800 00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:26,640 Speaker 1: my household. Yeah, I mean, you're with your quarantine with 801 00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:29,600 Speaker 1: your wife and kid. I get it. But I think 802 00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:32,799 Speaker 1: in general, um, a lot of people have kind of 803 00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:35,879 Speaker 1: like some people some people have talked to, have really 804 00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:38,879 Speaker 1: liked this phase where they can try. Like you said, Eric, 805 00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:42,359 Speaker 1: you can try also just because your career not not 806 00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:46,400 Speaker 1: acting right now affords you the opportunity to try growing 807 00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:49,239 Speaker 1: a beard where maybe for professional reasons you couldn't. So 808 00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:51,759 Speaker 1: a lot of people right now are experimenting with different things. 809 00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:54,719 Speaker 1: People are dyeing the hair different color, um, trying all 810 00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:58,920 Speaker 1: these different things that maybe they couldn't before, which I like. Um. 811 00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:00,840 Speaker 1: The one thing that I hate about right now about 812 00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:03,640 Speaker 1: having not had a haircut in two months, one my 813 00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:07,440 Speaker 1: hair looks awful, but to my eyebrows are so freaking 814 00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:12,480 Speaker 1: My eyebrows go grow so fast. And Jill Buck is 815 00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:15,040 Speaker 1: my hairstylist in l A. Jill, I miss you. So 816 00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:18,160 Speaker 1: much because Jill always trims up my eyebrows and it's 817 00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:21,759 Speaker 1: like even I'm like, I can't even see right now. No, 818 00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:23,920 Speaker 1: I'm going to get some some scissors out and like 819 00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:27,160 Speaker 1: cut my eyebrows because they just go so so freaking 820 00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:28,799 Speaker 1: I am with you on the haircut part too. I 821 00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:32,200 Speaker 1: miss not getting the haircut regularly because that's I like 822 00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:35,200 Speaker 1: having tight sides and being cleaned up and I oh, 823 00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:38,280 Speaker 1: my hair is so thick that it just becomes mine too, 824 00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:42,200 Speaker 1: And there's for me, dude, there is something so therapeutic 825 00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:47,080 Speaker 1: about getting a haircut. It's like my favorite thirty minutes 826 00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:50,279 Speaker 1: of the month. Yeah, like when Jill cuts my hair, 827 00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:53,680 Speaker 1: I'm just like, I'm just like, it's the most relaxing, 828 00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:57,960 Speaker 1: therapeutic thirty minutes. I absolutely love it. I understand like 829 00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:02,360 Speaker 1: why why women go to the hair salon thousand times. 830 00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:06,000 Speaker 1: This is actually a great transition because Amy, Danielle Um 831 00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:09,440 Speaker 1: and I all wrote up questions to ask you guys, 832 00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:11,759 Speaker 1: and so one of them was the least favorite thing 833 00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:17,560 Speaker 1: about this whole self quarantine thing happening um, which I'm 834 00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:20,960 Speaker 1: just gonna label that as your guys lack of hair cuts. 835 00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:23,480 Speaker 1: And then we're gonna go. What's your favorite part of 836 00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:26,840 Speaker 1: actually being stuck at home? These are rapid fire to 837 00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:28,759 Speaker 1: keep responses quick because we've got a few more to 838 00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:32,960 Speaker 1: get through. Go ahead, Eric, favorite favorite part about being 839 00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:35,879 Speaker 1: home has probably been just the down I mean, the 840 00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:38,480 Speaker 1: family time, the down down family time, just hanging out 841 00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:41,880 Speaker 1: and everybody being the other. Mine. That's awesome, dude, I 842 00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:44,200 Speaker 1: love it. Um. I love that you have a wife 843 00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:46,600 Speaker 1: and a boy and a girl. I think that's just so. 844 00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:48,360 Speaker 1: I'm not a father, but I can't wait to be 845 00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:51,360 Speaker 1: there one day. So UM, I think it's just so cool. 846 00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:54,440 Speaker 1: That's got to be just so much fun. Um. Mine 847 00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:58,680 Speaker 1: is uh spending time outside like I've been outside just 848 00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:00,720 Speaker 1: pouring the tory. We've talked abou this on the podcast. 849 00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:03,239 Speaker 1: I'm up at lake house, um, and I've just been 850 00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:07,440 Speaker 1: pouring love, literally pouring love into my property and shaping 851 00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:12,120 Speaker 1: it and sculpting it. Um for generations, for to host family, 852 00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:15,640 Speaker 1: to host family and friends and people out here at 853 00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:17,880 Speaker 1: this magical spot that means so much to me. I 854 00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:20,040 Speaker 1: want to be able to share that and have them 855 00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:23,279 Speaker 1: feel an emotion of love and beauty and nature when 856 00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:30,040 Speaker 1: they come to the lake House. That's awesome. Fifteen years 857 00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:32,680 Speaker 1: together from two different countries and very different points of 858 00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:38,919 Speaker 1: view about well pretty much everything to bringing you, he said. 859 00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:42,560 Speaker 1: We talked about so many things, and yeah, most of 860 00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:45,279 Speaker 1: the time we don't agree, but hey, we make it work. 861 00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:47,400 Speaker 1: Join us and be a part of this crazy and 862 00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:54,560 Speaker 1: beautiful adventure called listen to, he said, adio on iHeart radio, app, 863 00:44:54,600 --> 00:45:08,240 Speaker 1: Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcast ros best 864 00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:12,000 Speaker 1: pickup line a girl I can say to a guy? 865 00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:16,000 Speaker 1: Oh wow, Eric, you get more of those than I 866 00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:22,560 Speaker 1: do on the spot. You know, here's one that I 867 00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:25,960 Speaker 1: always loved. Um. I don't know if it's a girl 868 00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:27,920 Speaker 1: can say to a guy, but it was. It was 869 00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:32,080 Speaker 1: a pickup line that at least at least made me laugh. Um, 870 00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:37,960 Speaker 1: can I at least get a wrong number? It's just 871 00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:39,640 Speaker 1: like kind of like, hey, can I at least get 872 00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:44,880 Speaker 1: a wrong number? It just kind of breaks they that's good. Oh, 873 00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:50,480 Speaker 1: I'm gonna struggle with this and I don't know, uh best, 874 00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:54,239 Speaker 1: I mean, just in general, Uh, I don't have a 875 00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:56,479 Speaker 1: funny one. I would just say. I've had girls saying 876 00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:58,239 Speaker 1: hey can I can I buy you a drink? And 877 00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:00,319 Speaker 1: I think, to me, that always feels like wow, that's so. 878 00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:03,440 Speaker 1: I'm almost taking it back and shocked at first, Like 879 00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:05,640 Speaker 1: you want to buy me a drink? Yeah, hell yeah, 880 00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:06,960 Speaker 1: I'll hang out with you and have a drink and 881 00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:10,479 Speaker 1: it just we start chat. I see that. Um there's 882 00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:15,919 Speaker 1: another good one. Um. I've never seen a I've never 883 00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:19,200 Speaker 1: had it happen to me, but I've seen guys do it. Um. 884 00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:23,200 Speaker 1: So like say Eric and I are at a bar together, Tori, Um, 885 00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:27,960 Speaker 1: say I would walk over to you and I'd be like, hi, Um, 886 00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:30,799 Speaker 1: my name is Brooks, and do you see my friend 887 00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:33,600 Speaker 1: over there, the guy with ruggedly handsome guy over there 888 00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:36,840 Speaker 1: with the beard there, blue shirt. Well, he wants to 889 00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:43,040 Speaker 1: know if you think I'm attractive. That's great, So it 890 00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:44,879 Speaker 1: kind of it's kind of just a little spin on 891 00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:47,800 Speaker 1: what they think because usually probably girls, somebody will approach 892 00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:49,880 Speaker 1: a girl and have them try and set them up 893 00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:51,520 Speaker 1: with or have the guy try and set them up 894 00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:53,600 Speaker 1: with a friend. But I like, I like to flip 895 00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:55,480 Speaker 1: on the wing man, have to wring men at the 896 00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:58,480 Speaker 1: distance and do your own. That's great. Let's spin it 897 00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:01,080 Speaker 1: a little bit also and ask for the girls out 898 00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:06,080 Speaker 1: there who are on Instagram more so than not ready 899 00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:09,760 Speaker 1: to slide into a man's d MS. What's the way 900 00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:18,960 Speaker 1: to not to stand out but not be overly aggressive? Um? Wow, 901 00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:22,520 Speaker 1: So here's one. Here's one that that I kind of 902 00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:26,520 Speaker 1: that that's like, I don't know if I'm misinterpreting it, 903 00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:30,680 Speaker 1: but let me just say it. Um, sometimes I'll get 904 00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:34,080 Speaker 1: this because I read all my d m s because 905 00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:36,319 Speaker 1: I try and respond to as many people and help 906 00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:38,839 Speaker 1: people in as many ways as possible. Um, a lot 907 00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:41,200 Speaker 1: of people reach out with health or fitness questions or 908 00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:43,880 Speaker 1: just anything like that. I try and help my community 909 00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:46,200 Speaker 1: and as much as I possibly can. So I read 910 00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:49,160 Speaker 1: through all of that stuff. Um, and that's what that's 911 00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:51,800 Speaker 1: honestly the intent behind it. But sometimes you get stuff 912 00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:53,799 Speaker 1: like that. And one that I seem to get that's 913 00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:55,960 Speaker 1: a sly I actually kind of have respect for. It. 914 00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:59,400 Speaker 1: Is like I love your pop, I have a lab 915 00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:01,439 Speaker 1: two or what every would love to have a play date? 916 00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:04,719 Speaker 1: You know, it's good, a relatable topic, something to bring 917 00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:07,360 Speaker 1: it in. Yeah, they're kind of just like linking the 918 00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:10,640 Speaker 1: dogs together but saying it's a play date for the dogs, 919 00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:12,719 Speaker 1: but is it a play date for us? Kind of thing, 920 00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:17,439 Speaker 1: And I'm like, well, you know, I'm married. Um yeah, 921 00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:20,400 Speaker 1: but so that's maybe just me misinterpreting it as a 922 00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:23,160 Speaker 1: come on. Maybe they are just like, hey, you have 923 00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:26,640 Speaker 1: an awesome dog. I want my dog to meet your dog. Um, 924 00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:28,560 Speaker 1: maybe that's it, but I don't know, that's a that's 925 00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:32,400 Speaker 1: a subtle, sly way that maybe I'm just like interpreting 926 00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:37,480 Speaker 1: that way for my own vanity. You're getting what a no. 927 00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:39,920 Speaker 1: I I actually would would agree with that. I like 928 00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:42,640 Speaker 1: the straight up just someone being honest and trying to 929 00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:45,359 Speaker 1: relate to a you know, an interest that you both 930 00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:47,920 Speaker 1: may share. But then right after definitely sent a hot 931 00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:52,719 Speaker 1: picture out so we can get a good look this, Tori, 932 00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:55,000 Speaker 1: I all send one back if if, if we're into 933 00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:58,600 Speaker 1: each other one Tori. I have no idea how this 934 00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:01,360 Speaker 1: is the least subtle way, but I have no idea 935 00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:04,799 Speaker 1: why this happens. Like I don't know, I don't want 936 00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:06,879 Speaker 1: to say a lot, but this happens. You just get 937 00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:11,560 Speaker 1: a message that just says hi daddy, and it's got 938 00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:14,520 Speaker 1: like the tongue or something, and you're like, what the hell? 939 00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:20,160 Speaker 1: What like no delete? It's not a question. I can't 940 00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:22,640 Speaker 1: I can't serve your mission in some way. I don't 941 00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:27,839 Speaker 1: know what you're doing here, but delete guys secretly kind 942 00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:32,560 Speaker 1: of like to be called daddy. Oh no, I have 943 00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:35,319 Speaker 1: a buddy. I have a buddy that loves it, like 944 00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:39,680 Speaker 1: really just loves it. He just loves it. He just 945 00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:43,319 Speaker 1: everything like that he loves but um no, not it's 946 00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:46,160 Speaker 1: not my thing. And then did daddy talk either? All right? 947 00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:49,280 Speaker 1: Next question? Hold on, Tory, Can I ask you a question? 948 00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:54,400 Speaker 1: How how would you subtly, but with like a hint 949 00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:58,880 Speaker 1: of intent, slide into a man's MS. So I slid 950 00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:04,400 Speaker 1: into someone's dams for the first time ever, let's hear it. 951 00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:07,600 Speaker 1: Can you tell the whole story? I don't even know 952 00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:11,040 Speaker 1: how I stumbled upon his uh instead, but he plays 953 00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:14,200 Speaker 1: football and I'm Christian and so he and he's like 954 00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:16,640 Speaker 1: very open about his faith, and so I just said, hey, 955 00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:19,080 Speaker 1: like super cool, like this photo, like would love to 956 00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:22,320 Speaker 1: hear like your testimony because my dad found his relationship 957 00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:24,040 Speaker 1: with the Lord in the NFL, Like, would love to 958 00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:27,080 Speaker 1: hear how that happened to you. I never heard back. 959 00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:29,480 Speaker 1: He hasn't seen it. But I also like, but I 960 00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:31,400 Speaker 1: don't know how to slide into dns. I've never done it. 961 00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:33,880 Speaker 1: I'm like, do I send it if he hasn't seen it? 962 00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:36,240 Speaker 1: But isn't that the hard thing when on Instagram because 963 00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:39,839 Speaker 1: you could follow someone, if they don't follow you, then 964 00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:42,560 Speaker 1: your d M goes to like a separate box. So 965 00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:46,719 Speaker 1: unless they regularly checked that other box, you don't know 966 00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:49,839 Speaker 1: what's being written ever, right, So if you do, if 967 00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:52,600 Speaker 1: you read all yours brook, you actually go and you 968 00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:55,080 Speaker 1: put it into like general or primary like you shifted 969 00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:57,319 Speaker 1: over right, you accepted, but you go into that other 970 00:50:57,360 --> 00:50:59,800 Speaker 1: one and then from there I'll put into primary or general. 971 00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:03,960 Speaker 1: You accept it and then then allow the dialogue. That's 972 00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:09,839 Speaker 1: the thing. Should I follow him? Yeah, it won't. He won't. 973 00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:11,960 Speaker 1: You'll still be in that other box though, unless he 974 00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:14,480 Speaker 1: follows you, then it will automatically move you into primary, 975 00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:18,320 Speaker 1: So you should follow him. Mean, Primary is just the 976 00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:20,160 Speaker 1: epitome of my dating life, Like that should just be 977 00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:27,719 Speaker 1: my life title, like stuck in primary General? Okay. The 978 00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:32,680 Speaker 1: last person you have texted, um, where's my phone? I 979 00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:34,560 Speaker 1: don't even know where my phone is. Last person I 980 00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:41,080 Speaker 1: texted was my cast? Yeah, my mine was my cast. 981 00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:43,640 Speaker 1: Because we're doing a home we're doing a home con 982 00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:45,960 Speaker 1: like these comic con things, we're doing one that's at 983 00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:52,799 Speaker 1: home virtually this weekend. Super cool um, Tory, Mine was 984 00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:55,560 Speaker 1: to you and Danielle about this show. I said, hey, 985 00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:58,560 Speaker 1: I'm on the call, can we jump on? Um? But 986 00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:01,759 Speaker 1: previous to that, my buddy tran Um, it's like a 987 00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:04,759 Speaker 1: brother to me. Corey was planning on coming up to 988 00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:07,200 Speaker 1: the lake House here to rock and roll for a 989 00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:11,840 Speaker 1: few days. So we were texting about that. No, no, no, 990 00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:13,440 Speaker 1: no good ones. We have no juice for you on 991 00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:18,480 Speaker 1: that way, all right. I just think, Um, if you 992 00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:21,400 Speaker 1: had to give up one thing for nine weeks, what 993 00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:26,399 Speaker 1: would it be? Sex or working out? We're working out. 994 00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:29,680 Speaker 1: I love working out. I love working out, but I 995 00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:34,520 Speaker 1: love sex far more. Oh. I mean that's a really 996 00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:38,080 Speaker 1: tough one for me, truthfully, like not to just be 997 00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:41,200 Speaker 1: an idiot dude and just say yeah, I love sex, 998 00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:45,080 Speaker 1: So yeah, I'd give up. Looking out is like very 999 00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:47,400 Speaker 1: important to me. But I'm also I've been up at 1000 00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:49,520 Speaker 1: the lake House for i know, five six weeks, so 1001 00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:54,319 Speaker 1: I've given up sex, you know. But if oh man, 1002 00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:57,280 Speaker 1: I'm trying to put myself if if both are readily available, 1003 00:52:57,280 --> 00:53:00,400 Speaker 1: so like saying I'm at home, um and you can 1004 00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:05,880 Speaker 1: work out or h and we're talking, let's make it 1005 00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:11,719 Speaker 1: even harder. No sex, No, masturbation or nothing. Nothing I 1006 00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:14,640 Speaker 1: was and then working out would mean I guess not 1007 00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:18,920 Speaker 1: even like picking rocks up in the backyard, like no exercise. 1008 00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:20,919 Speaker 1: I was gonna say, have you guys seen the show 1009 00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:23,719 Speaker 1: Too Hot to Handle on Netflix? No, I haven't seen. 1010 00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:25,799 Speaker 1: I've passed through it, but I haven't seen it yet. 1011 00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:28,960 Speaker 1: So Tor, you've seen it, right, So it's it's no sex, 1012 00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:34,520 Speaker 1: no kissing, no no sexual touching, um you know, no masturbation, 1013 00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:35,920 Speaker 1: all that kind of thing. And they're supposed to try 1014 00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:38,840 Speaker 1: and do it for thirty days. So um posed with 1015 00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:43,440 Speaker 1: those two. If you went with those kind of um restrictions, Eric, 1016 00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:45,200 Speaker 1: I'd probably go on. I'd have to give up the 1017 00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:49,760 Speaker 1: working out you have working out? Yeah, but being married, 1018 00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:52,880 Speaker 1: what is the longest time you've ever gone without having sex? 1019 00:53:54,560 --> 00:54:04,800 Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe like a few weeks, couple a 1020 00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:09,840 Speaker 1: couple of weeks. We're probably gonna fight part of it, probably, 1021 00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:20,239 Speaker 1: Um yeah, I don't know. M hm. Well, also if 1022 00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:22,200 Speaker 1: you're out of town, so I've been out of town 1023 00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:24,200 Speaker 1: for at least three weeks before, so then it's been 1024 00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:26,640 Speaker 1: even longer than that. Yeah, if you're going with that, 1025 00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:28,560 Speaker 1: I mean I remember there was times of like not 1026 00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:33,279 Speaker 1: seeing um my wife for like five weeks, you know, 1027 00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:35,359 Speaker 1: just with when I was playing hockey and stuff, there 1028 00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:37,320 Speaker 1: was times where because I was playing in a different 1029 00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:40,399 Speaker 1: city that she was living. So um, yeah, I think 1030 00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:43,239 Speaker 1: that's kind of like almost I mean, that's just a 1031 00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:47,120 Speaker 1: different question for our careers a little bit. You know 1032 00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:54,160 Speaker 1: what else you got Tea that was the last one story? 1033 00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:58,680 Speaker 1: Can we ask you a question? Of course? Will you 1034 00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:05,279 Speaker 1: publicly state this gentleman's name that you d M and 1035 00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:07,920 Speaker 1: and how can Eric and I put our full weight 1036 00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:12,680 Speaker 1: behind making this connection happen? Well, jeez, if we're going 1037 00:55:12,719 --> 00:55:14,960 Speaker 1: to do that, then I got to pick somebody good. Actually, 1038 00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:17,319 Speaker 1: I'm trying to like, I don't remember his name. Have 1039 00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:19,320 Speaker 1: you then? Have you since then? Sort of? Well, I 1040 00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:21,760 Speaker 1: guess your Your message to him was kind of unique, 1041 00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:25,000 Speaker 1: but have you since then? Just copy and pasted that message? 1042 00:55:25,239 --> 00:55:29,040 Speaker 1: Copy this merriage sounds good. I'm just gonna roll this 1043 00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:30,880 Speaker 1: out to Hunter dudes and see what we end up 1044 00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:33,600 Speaker 1: with here, because I really don't slide into people's dams, 1045 00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:36,560 Speaker 1: but lately I've been like feeling a little lonely and 1046 00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:39,480 Speaker 1: probably a little horny, and so I'm, like I said, 1047 00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:41,120 Speaker 1: in this guy's damn. And then it didn't work out. 1048 00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:43,880 Speaker 1: So I'm like, well, is this the best tactic? So, 1049 00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:47,560 Speaker 1: but what would you do right now? In quarantine? So 1050 00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:51,799 Speaker 1: he responds and he's like, I'm into this. Do you say, 1051 00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:56,040 Speaker 1: how long have you been away from have you tested yourself? 1052 00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:59,759 Speaker 1: Bring your coronavirus ass over here and let's look up 1053 00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:03,719 Speaker 1: what you do virtual date. I've always kind of liked 1054 00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:05,319 Speaker 1: a little bit of a rebel. So if he's willing 1055 00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:08,160 Speaker 1: to break some laws and rules and government regulations, kind 1056 00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:11,880 Speaker 1: of hot, so, so you'd invite him in. You do 1057 00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:13,920 Speaker 1: that full like gloves and masks, and you guys will 1058 00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:16,000 Speaker 1: start the date that way until you feel comfortable that 1059 00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:20,279 Speaker 1: he's gotten would you temperature check? Oh? Man? Yeah, I 1060 00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:23,560 Speaker 1: guess we'd have to quarantine for fourteen days, Like you 1061 00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:26,880 Speaker 1: couldn't really do anything in that fourteen days. This is tough, 1062 00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:31,160 Speaker 1: you know, send this DM? You're right, no, don't. Don't 1063 00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:34,480 Speaker 1: you dare ever unsend that DM. I mean you could 1064 00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:36,319 Speaker 1: do the virtual date, which I've seen people doing there 1065 00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:39,120 Speaker 1: having like the zoom cocktail hour and talking. But then 1066 00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:41,760 Speaker 1: if you've also been feeling horny, what if it escalates 1067 00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:47,160 Speaker 1: rather quickly? I mean, are you guys, I wait longer 1068 00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:51,160 Speaker 1: than fourteen days to do that, but I don't mind 1069 00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:55,440 Speaker 1: a little messing around. So fourteen days of zoom, bless you. 1070 00:56:55,840 --> 00:56:58,680 Speaker 1: Fourteen days of zoom, and then what happens? Are you 1071 00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:02,760 Speaker 1: guys like topless on the next zoom? Are you sure 1072 00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:05,319 Speaker 1: playing strip poker in the next zoom? What happens? Eric, 1073 00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:08,680 Speaker 1: he's not even responding. Alright, we're gonna get you there. 1074 00:57:08,680 --> 00:57:10,840 Speaker 1: We're trying to prep you for that moment. This is 1075 00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:12,880 Speaker 1: what we do. We prep Tori. We prepped for the 1076 00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:15,600 Speaker 1: moment so that when the moment arrives, you arrive with it. 1077 00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:17,600 Speaker 1: I will try d m N a few more people. 1078 00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:19,600 Speaker 1: If I hear back, then I will come to you 1079 00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:22,280 Speaker 1: guys and ask for advice. Can we be on that 1080 00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:27,240 Speaker 1: first zoom? Absolutely? Five minutes? Persolutely? You can fleet them 1081 00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:30,280 Speaker 1: out for me my bigger brothers. Yeah, Eric, and I 1082 00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:35,480 Speaker 1: will moderate these zoom calls. Um Uh, Tori, I have 1083 00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:37,560 Speaker 1: I find it hard to believe that you have now, 1084 00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:39,840 Speaker 1: just for the first time ever, slid into a d 1085 00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:42,880 Speaker 1: M I've never I mean, I've done like my friends. 1086 00:57:43,080 --> 00:57:47,320 Speaker 1: But um so here's a question for you, truthful question 1087 00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:50,000 Speaker 1: and for our listeners. For everybody listening. Why is there 1088 00:57:50,040 --> 00:57:52,920 Speaker 1: such a stereotype in this stigma behind that it's a 1089 00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:56,880 Speaker 1: negative thing to slide into somebody's d M. It's it's 1090 00:57:57,160 --> 00:58:00,360 Speaker 1: saying hi and making contact with a stranger. We at 1091 00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:05,280 Speaker 1: some point everybody is a stranger, right if you meet 1092 00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:08,919 Speaker 1: like you and Rosalind Eric were strangers until you met 1093 00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:11,440 Speaker 1: in real life. You met in real life. Tor is 1094 00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:14,960 Speaker 1: meeting somebody digitally, Why is that any or perceived to 1095 00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:20,320 Speaker 1: be of lesser value or shady or whatever, then meeting 1096 00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:22,520 Speaker 1: somebody in real life when you're still both strangers and 1097 00:58:22,560 --> 00:58:25,920 Speaker 1: this is just the first contact. I mean, my my 1098 00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:28,120 Speaker 1: guess is the reason it gets a bad rap is 1099 00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:30,560 Speaker 1: that people typically associated with you slid into a d 1100 00:58:30,680 --> 00:58:33,240 Speaker 1: M of somebody who's in a relationship, but you would 1101 00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:36,480 Speaker 1: never know really, Like, I've never associated that. That's the 1102 00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:38,240 Speaker 1: first time I've heard that. It's the only reason I 1103 00:58:38,280 --> 00:58:41,360 Speaker 1: would think that it would be associated with any kind 1104 00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:43,280 Speaker 1: of negative thing, because I agree with you, like, but 1105 00:58:43,360 --> 00:58:46,040 Speaker 1: it's the difference of reaching out versus saying hi on 1106 00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:48,040 Speaker 1: the street and I don't I don't know you, or 1107 00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:49,880 Speaker 1: approach and saying hey, I'm so and so i'd like 1108 00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:53,400 Speaker 1: to you know chat whatever you're I'm in a relationship. 1109 00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:55,840 Speaker 1: But I think people often say, hey, slid into my 1110 00:58:55,920 --> 00:58:58,320 Speaker 1: DM and knowing that that person was in a relationship 1111 00:58:58,320 --> 00:59:00,560 Speaker 1: and they tried to slide it. I get you, Okay, 1112 00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:02,240 Speaker 1: I never thought of it that way, but yeah, I 1113 00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:04,640 Speaker 1: see what you're saying, Tori. I think it's also most 1114 00:59:04,680 --> 00:59:07,600 Speaker 1: of the time guys are like commenting on like the 1115 00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:11,200 Speaker 1: bathing suit pick or like girls or like the shirtless guy. 1116 00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:13,920 Speaker 1: So it's more like thirst trappy than being like I 1117 00:59:13,960 --> 00:59:19,080 Speaker 1: actually want to like pursue a conversation with you. Hold 1118 00:59:19,120 --> 00:59:23,160 Speaker 1: on another term that I've never heard, thirst trappy. I've 1119 00:59:23,160 --> 00:59:26,760 Speaker 1: never heard that either. First trap, but I added a p, 1120 00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:30,760 Speaker 1: so I heard of thirst trap. So any so are 1121 00:59:30,760 --> 00:59:34,360 Speaker 1: you saying that like say, say I was post my 1122 00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:39,280 Speaker 1: sledgehammer with no shirt and a rugged beard photo. That's 1123 00:59:39,360 --> 00:59:43,200 Speaker 1: thirst trappy? Yeah you know that. Um, the guy puts 1124 00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:46,320 Speaker 1: his hand behind the head and then like turns his 1125 00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:48,760 Speaker 1: torso a little bit in the mirror, and then it's 1126 00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:51,760 Speaker 1: like that ab pick in the mirror. Like that's the 1127 00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:53,840 Speaker 1: thirst trap. You're not just posting that to be like hey, 1128 00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:56,440 Speaker 1: so happy like Mother's like happy Mother's Day. It's like 1129 00:59:56,800 --> 00:59:59,040 Speaker 1: He's literally posting a picture so that girls want to 1130 00:59:59,080 --> 01:00:03,560 Speaker 1: slide in his DN then he can get his hook up. Eric. 1131 01:00:03,560 --> 01:00:05,680 Speaker 1: I want to say thank you so much, dude for 1132 01:00:05,720 --> 01:00:09,200 Speaker 1: coming on um one. I want you back. You're welcome 1133 01:00:09,240 --> 01:00:12,080 Speaker 1: back any time. Um. We'll give all the other guys 1134 01:00:12,160 --> 01:00:15,000 Speaker 1: boots because you were fantastic. I always have to do 1135 01:00:15,040 --> 01:00:17,600 Speaker 1: all the talking in the leg work because Gavin's never prepared. 1136 01:00:17,640 --> 01:00:19,160 Speaker 1: We don't even give him the show notes. He has 1137 01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:22,080 Speaker 1: no concept of what we're doing. So, uh, you're happy 1138 01:00:22,120 --> 01:00:25,200 Speaker 1: to take his chair. I'm just kidding, Gap. I love you, buddy, 1139 01:00:25,200 --> 01:00:26,800 Speaker 1: and I miss you, and Ryan, and Rick and Dmitri 1140 01:00:26,920 --> 01:00:31,720 Speaker 1: to Um, you are awesome Eric for people, UM, you're 1141 01:00:31,720 --> 01:00:34,280 Speaker 1: also a podcast host for our listeners. That's why you're 1142 01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:37,920 Speaker 1: so for our listeners. Where can people find your podcast? 1143 01:00:38,120 --> 01:00:41,120 Speaker 1: Our podcast is also with my Heart Radio and it's 1144 01:00:41,120 --> 01:00:45,000 Speaker 1: called he said, ayad ho that's he said. She said 1145 01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:49,520 Speaker 1: the Spanish flip uh basically about my with my wife 1146 01:00:49,600 --> 01:00:52,640 Speaker 1: Rosalind and I and we tackle everything from our complete 1147 01:00:52,680 --> 01:00:55,640 Speaker 1: opposite perspective on life. I mean, we couldn't be more 1148 01:00:55,680 --> 01:00:58,720 Speaker 1: polar opposites with everything we often. I mean this sounds 1149 01:00:58,720 --> 01:00:59,960 Speaker 1: like a big trute of the horn. But it's not. 1150 01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:02,120 Speaker 1: But we people actually say, you guys are like the 1151 01:01:02,240 --> 01:01:04,920 Speaker 1: Ricky and Lucy in a way, but like opposite. She's 1152 01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:08,160 Speaker 1: the Latin Lucy and I'm more like Ricky in the 1153 01:01:08,200 --> 01:01:11,280 Speaker 1: serious sense. And uh, we just talk about life and 1154 01:01:11,320 --> 01:01:15,200 Speaker 1: family and work and you know, relevant topics everything through 1155 01:01:15,200 --> 01:01:18,440 Speaker 1: our opposite lenses. It's a lot of fun. I appreciate that. 1156 01:01:18,560 --> 01:01:22,360 Speaker 1: I think, um, different points of views are very powerful 1157 01:01:22,400 --> 01:01:24,640 Speaker 1: within a relationship. They challenge you and make you grow 1158 01:01:24,680 --> 01:01:27,200 Speaker 1: and make you look at things outside of the way 1159 01:01:27,240 --> 01:01:30,080 Speaker 1: you see the world. Yeah, but it also it takes 1160 01:01:30,120 --> 01:01:33,080 Speaker 1: a strong person to be in that relationship because the 1161 01:01:33,080 --> 01:01:36,840 Speaker 1: person you're opposite, your partner, isn't just always agreeing with you. Yes, 1162 01:01:37,120 --> 01:01:38,680 Speaker 1: that's one of the things. And we find that, I 1163 01:01:38,680 --> 01:01:42,200 Speaker 1: mean we disagree on a lot. I mean obviously not everything, 1164 01:01:42,200 --> 01:01:44,280 Speaker 1: because we can make it. We make it work. But 1165 01:01:44,320 --> 01:01:47,520 Speaker 1: we we have enough in common with our humor and 1166 01:01:47,600 --> 01:01:50,880 Speaker 1: laughter about the way we handle everything. Um, that keeps 1167 01:01:50,920 --> 01:01:53,520 Speaker 1: it strong, keeps it fun. But when you talk to 1168 01:01:53,640 --> 01:01:55,000 Speaker 1: us about it, you know, all these other things and 1169 01:01:55,080 --> 01:01:57,840 Speaker 1: being such type a personalities both of us, you really 1170 01:01:57,880 --> 01:01:59,640 Speaker 1: see it come out in the podcast the way we 1171 01:01:59,760 --> 01:02:02,040 Speaker 1: riff on each other and it's it's just organic. It's 1172 01:02:02,040 --> 01:02:04,240 Speaker 1: who we are. So if you went on, yeah, you 1173 01:02:04,320 --> 01:02:06,280 Speaker 1: must some well work. I mean if you're in a partnership, 1174 01:02:06,320 --> 01:02:10,080 Speaker 1: obviously you you work together in life real well, um, 1175 01:02:10,080 --> 01:02:11,960 Speaker 1: but also you guys work together in career if you're 1176 01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:14,360 Speaker 1: doing this podcast. And also you did a children's book, right, 1177 01:02:14,360 --> 01:02:17,680 Speaker 1: you did children We wrote a children's book together called 1178 01:02:17,680 --> 01:02:20,240 Speaker 1: Sabella and Atlanta Cha Cha Cha, which was based on 1179 01:02:20,280 --> 01:02:22,720 Speaker 1: our daughter. And it was a dance book because there's 1180 01:02:22,720 --> 01:02:25,720 Speaker 1: no there aren't kids books out there that aren't just ballet. 1181 01:02:25,840 --> 01:02:28,080 Speaker 1: This is about Latin rhythm, so it was incorporating ballroom 1182 01:02:28,160 --> 01:02:31,920 Speaker 1: dancing into it. Man, Um, swee did that. We've produced 1183 01:02:32,040 --> 01:02:34,720 Speaker 1: movies together and and we actually came on on my 1184 01:02:34,760 --> 01:02:37,560 Speaker 1: show recently, The Rookie, and so we've we've partnered up 1185 01:02:37,560 --> 01:02:40,440 Speaker 1: a lot recently. It's been life. Yeah, that's gonna be 1186 01:02:40,480 --> 01:02:41,800 Speaker 1: that's gonna be a lot of fun to be able 1187 01:02:41,840 --> 01:02:44,160 Speaker 1: to do that. Yeah, it's been great. It's been great, 1188 01:02:44,400 --> 01:02:46,160 Speaker 1: and I really appreciate you having me on. Man, this 1189 01:02:46,200 --> 01:02:48,120 Speaker 1: is a fun podcast. And you guys, you've been you've 1190 01:02:48,120 --> 01:02:51,280 Speaker 1: been awesome. This is We'll have you back for sure. 1191 01:02:51,640 --> 01:02:53,840 Speaker 1: Where can people find you? Where do you hang out 1192 01:02:53,840 --> 01:02:55,680 Speaker 1: the most? On social media? Where can people that want 1193 01:02:55,680 --> 01:02:58,280 Speaker 1: to get more of your story and also tune into 1194 01:02:58,320 --> 01:03:00,160 Speaker 1: what you're working on the series that you're on. Where 1195 01:03:00,200 --> 01:03:03,560 Speaker 1: can people find you the most? Um? Instagram at eb Winter, 1196 01:03:03,840 --> 01:03:07,000 Speaker 1: Twitter at Eric Winter one, and then of course at 1197 01:03:07,000 --> 01:03:11,320 Speaker 1: he said a podcast. Yeah, buddy, okay, my man, thank 1198 01:03:11,360 --> 01:03:13,760 Speaker 1: you so much for joining us. Do keep going with 1199 01:03:13,800 --> 01:03:17,440 Speaker 1: that beard. I'm here for you if you have any questions, Um, 1200 01:03:17,680 --> 01:03:19,680 Speaker 1: keep going with that beard. It looks fantastic, and I 1201 01:03:19,720 --> 01:03:22,760 Speaker 1: wish you and your family the best of health and 1202 01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:25,200 Speaker 1: best wishes moving forward, and we'll see you back here 1203 01:03:25,200 --> 01:03:27,240 Speaker 1: on this show. My man. All right, brother, thank you 1204 01:03:27,280 --> 01:03:30,240 Speaker 1: the same. Thank you to our listeners everybody to take 1205 01:03:30,280 --> 01:03:32,920 Speaker 1: care out there, be safe until next week. Take care 1206 01:03:32,960 --> 01:03:34,800 Speaker 1: of one another, love one another, and we'll see you 1207 01:03:34,800 --> 01:03:37,040 Speaker 1: back here next week for another episode of How Men 1208 01:03:37,200 --> 01:03:38,160 Speaker 1: Think