WEBVTT - Ironheart Reactions (Episodes 1-3)

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<v Speaker 1>Warning, today's episode contained spoilers for the first three episodes

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<v Speaker 1>of Ironheart on Disney Plus. Oh it was just concepts

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm Rosey Night and welcome back to Answering Vision,

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<v Speaker 1>the podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>We dived into your favorite shows, movies, comic, hip, pop culture.

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<v Speaker 1>Coming to you from our podcast, where we're bring three

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<v Speaker 1>episodes a week every Tuesday and Thursday, and another day

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<v Speaker 1>and Friday, where.

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<v Speaker 2>There's another day in there. It might be Wednesday, it

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<v Speaker 2>might be Friday. Why that's right. End, don't forget about

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<v Speaker 2>news Plus. In today's episode, we're talking about Iron Hawk.

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<v Speaker 2>It's been a long time coming, baby, and it's finally here.

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<v Speaker 2>The first three episodes of Iron Hawk have arrived. They

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<v Speaker 2>are longer than we expected, each one around four eight

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<v Speaker 2>to fifty minutes. They are very aesthetically in the world

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<v Speaker 2>of the MCU. Yes, but what do we think about them? Well,

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<v Speaker 2>guess what we're gonna recap. We're gonna tell you who's

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<v Speaker 2>in them, We're gonna tell you what we think is

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<v Speaker 2>gonna happen. We're gonna tell you how we feel about it.

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<v Speaker 2>So let's get into it.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, iron Heart Episode one, let's get this out of

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<v Speaker 1>the way. I want to get this, just get.

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<v Speaker 2>It out of the way. Let's just shut it out.

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<v Speaker 1>We're bumped a little bit, a little bit, a little bit,

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<v Speaker 1>we're a.

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<v Speaker 2>Little bit bummed.

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<v Speaker 1>We wish Iron Heart was better, and there's various problems

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<v Speaker 1>that we're gonna talk about them. But let's first recap

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<v Speaker 1>this show. So we open on a selfie video uh

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<v Speaker 1>the uh that Reary Williams has recorded of her hanging

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<v Speaker 1>out with her friend Natalie talking about their aspirations and

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<v Speaker 1>life and stuff. And this will all be come important

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<v Speaker 1>because we're gonna find out soon enough that Natalie has

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<v Speaker 1>sadly passed away.

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<v Speaker 2>I also need to say, yes, I did immediately have

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<v Speaker 2>a little, a little knee wobble, because the aesthetic of

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<v Speaker 2>this opening kind of flashback is a real choice and

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<v Speaker 2>does not immediately I think set the show up for success.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it looks very un emcu and very kind

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<v Speaker 2>of more like ya TV that But you know what,

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<v Speaker 2>after that, I feel like the show actually does start

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<v Speaker 2>to look really great. But yeah, that was I did

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<v Speaker 2>have a wobble. I did have a wobble there.

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<v Speaker 1>We open up at M I T with a voiceover.

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<v Speaker 1>We're kind of watching realgoing about her day. She's talking

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<v Speaker 1>about her her research, her technology.

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<v Speaker 2>She's back, living's living up. She's like it's going great.

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<v Speaker 1>She's back from Wakanda after the events of Wakanda forever.

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<v Speaker 1>But she needs a re sources really, you know, like

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<v Speaker 1>now that she doesn't have a nation state's backing behind her,

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<v Speaker 1>she needs like real, real money to continue her work

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<v Speaker 1>at a Tony Stark level. Of course, she is a

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<v Speaker 1>Tony Stark fellow, so she feels the weight of that legacy,

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<v Speaker 1>and so she's been hustling. And part of the hustling

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<v Speaker 1>has been she's been like trading her independently produced technology,

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<v Speaker 1>including like test projects for students at other universities.

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<v Speaker 2>For cash.

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<v Speaker 1>And one of the things she talks about wanting to

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<v Speaker 1>do with her research is help first responders save lives.

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<v Speaker 1>But all in all, it's not going great and really

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<v Speaker 1>needs to extend that Tony Stark grant so she can

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<v Speaker 1>continued her work on Tony Stark's time.

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<v Speaker 2>May he rest in peace. It's not like he doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>have the money. Well he's and sadly, if he was

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<v Speaker 2>still around, I think it would be no problemly be

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<v Speaker 2>more open to it than the university.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, But now there's like a board that has to

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<v Speaker 1>like okay stuff, and it's there's a lot of red tape.

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<v Speaker 1>And she is a four year undergrad, so you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and she also doesn't want to do class work.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the other thing.

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<v Speaker 1>She's like, can I just can I just have the

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<v Speaker 1>university pay for me to just be in the research

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<v Speaker 1>lab and not do schoolwork? And they're like no, in fact,

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<v Speaker 1>you're expelled.

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<v Speaker 2>So she gets yeah, because we found out that you've

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<v Speaker 2>been doing you know what, you've been selling it to

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<v Speaker 2>like every other ivy.

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<v Speaker 1>League around like, which is like a real I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a real you can't do that.

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<v Speaker 2>That's look, I'm legitimate specific but like I get it. Also,

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<v Speaker 2>I would well, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Mean like if you get caught, that's it's like, don't

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<v Speaker 1>get if you get Also I want to say as well,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to say that.

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<v Speaker 2>It is very interesting to me. I think this sums

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<v Speaker 2>up a problem that the MCU has, which is like,

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<v Speaker 2>if you've been to Wakanda, why would you just just

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<v Speaker 2>stay in Wakanda? Honestly, like, rather than this version of

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<v Speaker 2>the MCU outside of it, it seemed like they wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>they were you know, I think they weren't. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>mean they were not seen.

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<v Speaker 1>On having an American hangout, you know what I mean, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>I think the general AIDS is a distrust. So she

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<v Speaker 1>gets expelled and so re repacks up her stuff. She

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<v Speaker 1>basically steals her suit from the school, which comes installed

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<v Speaker 1>with like a m I T. Microsoft Word inspired AI

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<v Speaker 1>named Trevor, who she can barely get to set a

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<v Speaker 1>flight clippy, very much clippy. And then so she flies

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<v Speaker 1>back to Chicago. As she is flying over the city,

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<v Speaker 1>a we kind of quick cut to a technologically skilled

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<v Speaker 1>group of breaking artists who are currently robbing a mansion.

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<v Speaker 1>And this gang includes two members named Rampage uh also

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<v Speaker 1>named Stuart played by Eric Andre who I did not

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<v Speaker 1>know was in this show and who is barely in

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<v Speaker 1>the show. Don't blink because that's what you're gonna see

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<v Speaker 1>of Rampage.

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<v Speaker 2>Basically, yes, and they are all of these characters in

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<v Speaker 2>a classic kind of Marvel TV situation. Rampage Ak Stewart

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<v Speaker 2>is a Marvel character. Slug is a Marvel character. We

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<v Speaker 2>also have the Blood Brothers, who here are reimagined as

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<v Speaker 2>the Blood Siblings, which I find really funny because I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>just still call them the Blood Brothers. I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>they're mass but sure, but yeah, like actual lots of

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<v Speaker 2>Marvel deep cut character pulls it if you do want

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<v Speaker 2>to explore and see like who these characters were in

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<v Speaker 2>the comics and what it means to kind of have

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<v Speaker 2>them here.

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<v Speaker 1>And their leader is park Robbins aka the Hood, and

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<v Speaker 1>we see this heist kind of go sideways because Rampage

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<v Speaker 1>isn't that great at his job, which is like the

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<v Speaker 1>tech guy, like the tech fixer guy, and the alarm

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<v Speaker 1>goes off and the Blood siblings getting a brawl security

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<v Speaker 1>and everybody asked to quickly escape. They go back like

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<v Speaker 1>you know. They meet up later under a bridge and

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<v Speaker 1>Parker's like, Rampage, I think we might have to fire

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<v Speaker 1>a rampage and as the kind of saw he does

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<v Speaker 1>kind of suck and just at that moment, Real's flying

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<v Speaker 1>over town.

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<v Speaker 2>They look up to like what's that? Re really loses

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<v Speaker 2>control over suit.

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<v Speaker 1>It crashes like pieces like file all over the place.

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<v Speaker 1>Re Re's walking back to her house with like the

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<v Speaker 1>pieces of pursuit like under her arms. She's getting roasted

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<v Speaker 1>by the citizenry. She meets a kid named Landon who

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<v Speaker 1>charges her twenty dollars to help her take her stuff home.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're thinking, wow, that's a lot of characters for

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<v Speaker 1>the first seven minutes of a show, I think you

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<v Speaker 1>kind of keyed in on one of the problems this

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<v Speaker 1>show has, which is in the first I mean, that's

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<v Speaker 1>like ten people that have been like introduced, that's not

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<v Speaker 1>including the Dean and then the the Dean's assistant, and

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<v Speaker 1>like a lot going on.

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<v Speaker 2>Right away, yeah, right away. And I will say I

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<v Speaker 2>think that this is also one of those moments where

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<v Speaker 2>you are seeing the glimpses of the greatness that this

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<v Speaker 2>show has, because I do think that really walking through

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<v Speaker 2>with her busted up suit is like really funny. Ye

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<v Speaker 2>And I think that the way that they do the title,

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<v Speaker 2>where the title is basically made up of her like

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<v Speaker 2>smashing into the ground, there's a lot of comic book

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<v Speaker 2>fun kind of moments here, and there's also this kind

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<v Speaker 2>of understanding of the community, but into cutting that with

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<v Speaker 2>the introduction of the gang. And this will go to

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<v Speaker 2>my point that I think is really, in my opinion,

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<v Speaker 2>the issue with the show, which is the show is

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<v Speaker 2>six episodes, but it's paced like a twelve episode Netflix

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<v Speaker 2>ya show yea, And it has enough energy and action

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<v Speaker 2>for a twelve episode show. So I do think the

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<v Speaker 2>truncated nature of it is an issue because otherwise I

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<v Speaker 2>thought the actual introduction of really and also this kind

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<v Speaker 2>of notion of like what is it like to live

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<v Speaker 2>in the MCU and you're not as rich as Kate

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<v Speaker 2>Bishop Paul is really interesting and everyone is basically just

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<v Speaker 2>like how does this work? Like who? Well, I kind

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<v Speaker 2>of have a power or I have a skill, like

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<v Speaker 2>can I make this work? Like how does it work

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<v Speaker 2>for me? I think there is something there that is

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<v Speaker 2>so interesting to be explored, but it's very hard to

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<v Speaker 2>explore it with twenty characters and six episodes.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, she re rearives home and at the front door

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<v Speaker 1>she hears like her mom talking with her friends about

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<v Speaker 1>Rere's expulsion.

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<v Speaker 2>She already knows about it.

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<v Speaker 1>This is because she's like been bribing a janitor to

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<v Speaker 1>keep her informed about stuff. We meet Rere's friend Zai Xavier,

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<v Speaker 1>her friend Natalie's brother.

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<v Speaker 2>Who's another important character.

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<v Speaker 1>Another hugely important character. This is like plus the friends

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<v Speaker 1>who also have like speaking roles about crystals and stuff is.

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<v Speaker 2>Who by the way, one of them is he's already

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<v Speaker 2>like whoa like iconic voice different right now and like

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<v Speaker 2>voice acting and then.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's like it is so many characters like right away.

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<v Speaker 1>So Zay gives really the perfect reason to like leave

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<v Speaker 1>the house and not get dragged for getting expelled from MIT.

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<v Speaker 1>They go to the lakefront talk about what she wants

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<v Speaker 1>to do next. She wants to make a better suit,

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<v Speaker 1>she wants to make better ai. She wants to take

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<v Speaker 1>stock tech to the next level. She thinks, maybe I'll

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<v Speaker 1>go to Dubai. There's a lot of money there and

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<v Speaker 1>I can continue my research. But you know, Chicago in

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<v Speaker 1>general feels too small time for her. She's thinking about leaving.

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<v Speaker 1>Zay takes really to see a mural of her stepdad

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<v Speaker 1>and Natalie that the community put up and really painful

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<v Speaker 1>memories for it's right next to the family garage that

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<v Speaker 1>her dad used to run, and we don't yet know

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<v Speaker 1>what happened to them, but it's clear it's very traumatic.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, day is like, hey, whatever happened to

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<v Speaker 1>that old barracouda car, you know, the Barracuda.

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<v Speaker 2>Like seventies like muscle car.

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<v Speaker 1>What happened to that?

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<v Speaker 2>She's a guy sold it.

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<v Speaker 1>To get money for the suit and Zay's apologizing for

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<v Speaker 1>not being there that night, and then he gives her

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<v Speaker 1>a mixtape he made literally a cassette tape and a Walkman.

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<v Speaker 1>And meanwhile, as this is happening, one of Parker's gang

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<v Speaker 1>is watching it. This is a guy named Jonathan who's

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<v Speaker 1>like Parker's cousin, is kind of like his closest beste.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>This led me to ask whether like cassette tapes are back, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>are they back as a thing?

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<v Speaker 2>They Okay, you put this in the group chat. Let's

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<v Speaker 2>have a little a sidebar quickly. I believe they are back.

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<v Speaker 2>I see kids wearing Walkmans they make branded Hello Kitty Walkman's.

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<v Speaker 2>Now those are back. They have snoopy Walkmans, and especially

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<v Speaker 2>like indie bands, but like actual indie bands, they all

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<v Speaker 2>back to making cassette tape releases. I have cassette tapes

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<v Speaker 2>from some of my friend's bands. I think that coming back,

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<v Speaker 2>it's never gonna be a vinyl level comeback, because vinyl

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<v Speaker 2>actually sounds fucking fantastic Vinyl sounds, but tapes are at

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<v Speaker 2>like an experiential thing. And I think as kids are

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<v Speaker 2>getting more and kind of tired with the digital world,

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<v Speaker 2>I think they like something tangible that they can touch,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think cassette tapes a part of that. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So later, re Rey is at a different like mechanics

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<v Speaker 1>slash scrap shop place and she's looking for scrap for

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<v Speaker 1>her armor to do repairs. She doesn't have the heart

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<v Speaker 1>to break it to the owner of the place, who

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<v Speaker 1>remembers her. It's like, oh my god, you're the genius

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<v Speaker 1>see the Tony Stark fellow, Like, what's going on now?

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<v Speaker 2>You must be like rich and crazy. It must be crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>She can.

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<v Speaker 1>She's like trying to like broach the topic of like

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<v Speaker 1>can I get this scrap on credit? When Jonathan comes

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<v Speaker 1>up and is like, I got it and he pays

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<v Speaker 1>for it, which can never be good. Then he hands

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<v Speaker 1>her very bad, very bad instantly every kind of knows

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<v Speaker 1>but not she doesn't listen to that.

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<v Speaker 2>Gut enough for me.

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<v Speaker 1>Hands her a card for Desposito's Pizza. I believe it

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<v Speaker 1>was where Parker's secret headquarter is. She goes to the

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<v Speaker 1>pizza place. It does not seem to be operational, but

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<v Speaker 1>there's an elevator in the back, and uh, this actually

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<v Speaker 1>was this whole sequence I thought was really cool. Gas starts.

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<v Speaker 1>She goes in she's gonna go up to like the

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<v Speaker 1>second floor where the car tells her to go, but

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<v Speaker 1>then gas starts filling the car, and then.

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<v Speaker 2>Parker's voice comes over. He's like, this is your test.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you escape this elevator in three minutes before the

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<v Speaker 1>gas overcomes you?

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<v Speaker 2>And she does? She like she very sore coded, but

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<v Speaker 2>I thought very saw coded. Yeah, Also like I think

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<v Speaker 2>it's a good it is a good foreteller of like, Babe,

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<v Speaker 2>this is probably not a good idea, Like this is

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<v Speaker 2>a very kind of horror movie style yelling at the

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<v Speaker 2>TV show like if that's what you have to do,

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<v Speaker 2>it's probably gonna go badly for you. Let's be real.

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<v Speaker 1>So she managed to do it, and she beats Rampage

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<v Speaker 1>aka Stewart's Time by a lot, so Parker is absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>in the clear to fire Rampage. And then Parker makes

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<v Speaker 1>his pitch. It's like, listen, here's what we're offering, a

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<v Speaker 1>place to use your gifts, your genius in a way

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<v Speaker 1>that is useful, and we're gonna be taking down It's

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<v Speaker 1>not He doesn't say this like in a kind of

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<v Speaker 1>plain way, but he kind of hints it like Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna be taking down people like kind of deserve it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like rich people, Yeah they.

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<v Speaker 1>Can miss it and they're like, yeah, suck anyway. And

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<v Speaker 1>then thirdly, money, you're gonna make money. You need that money,

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<v Speaker 1>don't even She turns him down, but she can't leave

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<v Speaker 1>right away because of the elevator. So now Parker turns

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<v Speaker 1>up the volume on the offer. He opens up like

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<v Speaker 1>a box of cash, and he gives her what looks

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<v Speaker 1>like about ten grand yeah, in a like a wad,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's like, here you go.

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<v Speaker 2>And she's like, what are you doing? What? Like, what

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<v Speaker 2>are we what's the job?

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<v Speaker 1>Like, what are we actually gonna be doing to which

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<v Speaker 1>come on, obviously something.

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<v Speaker 2>Not legal but like not legal, babe, legal, And.

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<v Speaker 1>She says, well, I don't want to hurt people, and

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<v Speaker 1>he's like, well, don't worry, we're not gonna that's that's

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna be part of it. But it's like, obviously

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be very lucrative, so she can come.

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<v Speaker 2>On, babe, let's be real. I'm like every time with

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<v Speaker 2>it's like, here's ten thousand dollars, but don't worry. You

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<v Speaker 2>won't have to anyone the thing that clearly most people

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<v Speaker 2>would do. I will say even though you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>think we are being honest about a feeling, I will say, also,

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<v Speaker 2>guess what this is the classic setup in like a

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<v Speaker 2>million different but here's the difference.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's the difference. I mean, there's a reason why every

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<v Speaker 1>heist movie is one last job because you need that

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<v Speaker 1>what's the number? And I think it's not as apparent here,

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<v Speaker 1>but it will become.

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<v Speaker 2>A lost three. Yeah, how much does the suit?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, it will become apparent over these three episodes that

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<v Speaker 1>you're like, well, how how many jobs are you doing?

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<v Speaker 1>Like is it one job to like get a start?

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<v Speaker 1>And is it two jobs? Like what's the number you

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<v Speaker 1>need to.

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<v Speaker 2>Hit to be? Like?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm good because if we're talking stark level, you're never

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<v Speaker 1>going to make billions of dollars doing this? So like,

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<v Speaker 1>what what what is the what is the cutoff? What

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<v Speaker 1>is the thing that?

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<v Speaker 2>What is the goal?

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that lack of a clear goal, even

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<v Speaker 1>though she states up at the top, oh, I want

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<v Speaker 1>to you know, I want to make a better suit

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<v Speaker 1>for first responders. I want to make better checking this it.

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<v Speaker 1>We never really return to that, and I find myself

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<v Speaker 1>missing it. That's all okay, So you're you're right like,

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<v Speaker 1>this is a setup that we've seen a million times before.

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<v Speaker 2>She goes back home.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh, she's spending all night rebuilding the suit before the

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<v Speaker 1>job with Parker tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 2>Parker's like, we have a job tomorrow eleven am. She's

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<v Speaker 2>listened to his A's mix.

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<v Speaker 1>She's getting emotional thinking about her dad and Natalie. It's

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<v Speaker 1>clear like whatever happened is truly really terrible and it's violent,

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<v Speaker 1>and she's shaken by this. Her mom sees her upset

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<v Speaker 1>and tries to help, but like rebuffs her dives back

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<v Speaker 1>into her work.

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<v Speaker 2>Meanwhile, we kind of go to Parker.

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<v Speaker 1>He's in his little bass preparing for the job by

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<v Speaker 1>getting tattooed, listening to Nina simone Sinnerman, which is and

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<v Speaker 1>the verse that they're on is all about like the

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<v Speaker 1>the it's talking about like the Devil, which is.

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<v Speaker 2>Like enjoying the numbers. We would definitely enjoy the music

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<v Speaker 2>supervision on this show. The music is.

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<v Speaker 1>Really really fun. Yeah, really really really good. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>clear that like the Mephisto hints are very very strong.

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<v Speaker 1>Right off jump, he goes inside like a vault that

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<v Speaker 1>he has and he hangs up the hood. Meanwhile, really

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<v Speaker 1>is like using her brain waves to create the AI

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<v Speaker 1>in the suit, and it's going to take like four

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<v Speaker 1>hours for her brain waves to like program the suit,

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<v Speaker 1>which is a very iron Man that was like og

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<v Speaker 1>iron Man, and there is some like that's how he

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<v Speaker 1>controlled the suit was And I say as.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, in that way, they do lean into a lot

0:18:28.240 --> 0:18:30.520
<v Speaker 2>of stuff here that I'm assuming at some point was

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<v Speaker 2>going to be part of Armor Wars. Yea, is that

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<v Speaker 2>still happening. I don't know, because we do get this

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<v Speaker 2>kind of cool concept of like an AI driven suit

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<v Speaker 2>and does the person need to be in the suit,

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<v Speaker 2>which is very very coded from the old Iron Man stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>the eighties Armor war stuff, which I do think is

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<v Speaker 2>really cool. I will say as well, I do think

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<v Speaker 2>that I was kind of going back and rereading the comics,

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<v Speaker 2>and I do think that a lot of what they're

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<v Speaker 2>taking from with re Rey's stuff here is h is

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<v Speaker 2>from the pre eviewing stuff, you know. And I do

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<v Speaker 2>think that Eve is really where got her her chops

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<v Speaker 2>and her life and her life outside of this kind

0:19:14.200 --> 0:19:17.040
<v Speaker 2>of tragic backstory that Bendis had given her. And I

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<v Speaker 2>think that this leans heavily on the tragic bas.

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<v Speaker 1>So uh when she wakes up the next morning, the

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<v Speaker 1>upload is finished and her AI appears and it's Natalie

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<v Speaker 1>what whoa, Okay, whoa.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's take a quick break. Let's take a quick break,

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<v Speaker 2>and we'll be back to figure out how this happened.

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<v Speaker 2>How it happened. We're back. Episode two.

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<v Speaker 1>We open on re re arguing with her Natalie AI

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<v Speaker 1>about whether or not she she's real.

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<v Speaker 2>She's not.

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<v Speaker 1>She's a hologram projected from the chest plate of her armor,

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<v Speaker 1>and Natalie the Natalie AI appears to be like has

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<v Speaker 1>all her it's her personality, it's her mannerisms.

0:20:12.600 --> 0:20:16.880
<v Speaker 2>It's Natalie Reary is really freaked out. She doesn't want

0:20:16.880 --> 0:20:19.720
<v Speaker 2>to come. Natalie the AI is.

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<v Speaker 1>Like super insistent, like I'm Natalie Reary is like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to erase you and to start over because

0:20:26.000 --> 0:20:29.040
<v Speaker 1>this is super weird, and like you're not doing what

0:20:29.080 --> 0:20:31.240
<v Speaker 1>an AI should do, which is like help me. Instead

0:20:31.240 --> 0:20:34.000
<v Speaker 1>you're arguing with me about like and refusing to run

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<v Speaker 1>diagnostics and all this stuff. And then in the middle

0:20:37.040 --> 0:20:39.119
<v Speaker 1>of all this, she gets a text from Parker and

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<v Speaker 1>it's time for the first job. So that's yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>like a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>I will say that.

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<v Speaker 1>There are ethical issues here that will dive into in

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<v Speaker 1>a bit, But my first thought is this is forget

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<v Speaker 1>the tech side of it, which has issues as well

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<v Speaker 1>with regards to like Reary's genius, but it ethically where

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<v Speaker 1>now where this is weird?

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<v Speaker 2>No?

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<v Speaker 1>Because I feel like if if the technology exists to

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<v Speaker 1>bring me back after I'm dead, obviously people will do this.

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<v Speaker 1>That said, yes, how would I feel about it? I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like, ask me.

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<v Speaker 2>First, you know, I agree, I would say, so this

0:21:22.840 --> 0:21:27.879
<v Speaker 2>is from the Eve comics, but obviously something that I

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<v Speaker 2>really like there is kind of like it's very clear

0:21:33.160 --> 0:21:37.640
<v Speaker 2>that this is an AI and that it's AI Natalie,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's meant to represent how Reary has you know,

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<v Speaker 2>not dealt with that trauma and she wants to have

0:21:45.280 --> 0:21:47.760
<v Speaker 2>Natalie back in her life. She still thinks about it,

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<v Speaker 2>but I will say in I feel like in the

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<v Speaker 2>show because we are seeing a real actress. Yeah, and

0:21:57.119 --> 0:21:59.840
<v Speaker 2>a real person represents which we have never seen with

0:22:00.080 --> 0:22:03.000
<v Speaker 2>AI and the MCU have always been the voiceover with

0:22:03.119 --> 0:22:05.760
<v Speaker 2>Javis or Tom.

0:22:05.560 --> 0:22:11.000
<v Speaker 1>Holland's clearly simulated like not a person that ever is interested.

0:22:11.359 --> 0:22:16.879
<v Speaker 2>This definitely raises some questions of yes, is this fair?

0:22:17.119 --> 0:22:19.879
<v Speaker 2>Like would you want to do it, Like, why is

0:22:19.960 --> 0:22:23.720
<v Speaker 2>she uh, you know, trapped in her friend's suit? And

0:22:23.800 --> 0:22:27.720
<v Speaker 2>I'm very interested with this. I feel like in the

0:22:27.760 --> 0:22:32.480
<v Speaker 2>first three episodes they are definitely hinting to me this

0:22:32.680 --> 0:22:36.879
<v Speaker 2>AI is like too humanly real. I feel like it

0:22:36.960 --> 0:22:41.360
<v Speaker 2>hints that there is some kind of I agree, manipulate something.

0:22:41.040 --> 0:22:43.679
<v Speaker 1>Else, somewhat something else going on, because I mean, like,

0:22:44.160 --> 0:22:48.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, like you need money, Like here's your thing,

0:22:48.760 --> 0:22:52.760
<v Speaker 1>like you we can create AI that are completely just

0:22:53.000 --> 0:22:56.200
<v Speaker 1>like the people that they represented, so literally.

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<v Speaker 2>You would never ever if you have the technology to do,

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<v Speaker 2>then you have to tech. It could be a black

0:23:01.760 --> 0:23:05.199
<v Speaker 2>Mirror esque like CEO billionaire, Like you could be a

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<v Speaker 2>billionaire ten nights. Yeah, go scan everyone's heads for ten minutes, babe.

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<v Speaker 1>Go make the go to go to Silicon Valley, make

0:23:13.280 --> 0:23:16.840
<v Speaker 1>the pitch, show people the tech demo, and I guarantee

0:23:16.840 --> 0:23:17.359
<v Speaker 1>you you're.

0:23:17.240 --> 0:23:23.159
<v Speaker 2>A billionaire overnight. Like, go get the money. I definitely agree, yea,

0:23:23.320 --> 0:23:27.720
<v Speaker 2>And I love. What I really liked about the E

0:23:28.040 --> 0:23:30.840
<v Speaker 2>version of this storyline is that we get this kind

0:23:30.880 --> 0:23:33.639
<v Speaker 2>of like horror from rear and that that's kind of

0:23:33.720 --> 0:23:37.320
<v Speaker 2>like so overwhelmed. But yeah, it's like I do feel

0:23:37.320 --> 0:23:39.280
<v Speaker 2>like they just move too quickly, and she just.

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<v Speaker 1>Like move Okay, that's part of what yes, because the

0:23:42.560 --> 0:23:46.120
<v Speaker 1>eve part there is this she has a moment where

0:23:46.160 --> 0:23:49.240
<v Speaker 1>she has to like yeah, there's the It's so emotional

0:23:49.240 --> 0:23:51.320
<v Speaker 1>for her that she actually just turns it off and

0:23:51.600 --> 0:23:53.640
<v Speaker 1>activates it and tries to work out.

0:23:53.840 --> 0:23:56.439
<v Speaker 2>And we do get a little mention here like should

0:23:56.440 --> 0:23:57.400
<v Speaker 2>I get a new one?

0:23:57.640 --> 0:24:01.920
<v Speaker 1>But moreover in the E version of the story, re Rey,

0:24:01.960 --> 0:24:05.320
<v Speaker 1>who is a genius, is like, how did this happen?

0:24:05.440 --> 0:24:08.760
<v Speaker 2>I need to figure out, like what happened here? I

0:24:08.840 --> 0:24:09.560
<v Speaker 2>understand that she.

0:24:09.560 --> 0:24:16.800
<v Speaker 1>Needs to go to this heist job with Parker, but like, yeah,

0:24:17.359 --> 0:24:20.920
<v Speaker 1>like this is a job situation.

0:24:21.160 --> 0:24:24.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm curious enough about like why this happened and what

0:24:24.080 --> 0:24:24.479
<v Speaker 2>this is.

0:24:25.080 --> 0:24:29.280
<v Speaker 1>Anyway, she heads out and she finds out from Parker

0:24:29.320 --> 0:24:31.840
<v Speaker 1>as he's like doing the little spiel for the gang.

0:24:31.920 --> 0:24:36.840
<v Speaker 2>But what this is we are raiding this.

0:24:37.000 --> 0:24:40.720
<v Speaker 1>CEO who created this project called Tunnel, which is like

0:24:40.760 --> 0:24:45.640
<v Speaker 1>an under Chicago system of tunnels to alleviate traffics.

0:24:45.640 --> 0:24:47.639
<v Speaker 2>It's like high tech tunnels. Maybe you drive your car

0:24:47.680 --> 0:24:49.960
<v Speaker 2>down there. Also gets on a little platform in the

0:24:50.080 --> 0:24:54.360
<v Speaker 2>very coded because that's what the boring company was supposed

0:24:54.359 --> 0:24:56.560
<v Speaker 2>to do. So we get you can tell this show

0:24:56.560 --> 0:24:59.280
<v Speaker 2>has been in the works for a long time and

0:24:59.320 --> 0:25:02.600
<v Speaker 2>that is a that's definitely a storyline from about probably

0:25:02.680 --> 0:25:05.480
<v Speaker 2>four years ago, because Ela must never made that happen.

0:25:05.520 --> 0:25:09.560
<v Speaker 1>Guys, So they go. The Parker introduces the gang. We

0:25:09.600 --> 0:25:13.600
<v Speaker 1>meet Slug from Madapoor, who is like the hacker. We

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<v Speaker 1>meet extremely cool new addition to the black Pack cannon.

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<v Speaker 1>There is a big black Kaka cannon in Hollywood, big

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<v Speaker 1>fan of this edition. We meet Rob and Jerry, the

0:25:23.160 --> 0:25:26.159
<v Speaker 1>sibling cage fighters. We meet Clown, who is like the

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<v Speaker 1>explosives expert.

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<v Speaker 2>We meet Parker's cousin John, who is like then.

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<v Speaker 1>Doesn't do not then, Well, he's like the knife obsessive,

0:25:33.480 --> 0:25:36.840
<v Speaker 1>but he also does like all like I'll drive all whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>like he's like the jack of all trades and reread

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<v Speaker 1>obviously he's taken rampage of Spot. The job is to

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<v Speaker 1>disrupt and hijack the Sila Zarat, the CEO of Tunnel's

0:25:47.640 --> 0:25:52.400
<v Speaker 1>Tunnels project, which the reasoning being well, it's destroying communities

0:25:52.440 --> 0:25:56.879
<v Speaker 1>across Chicago, or has destroyed, and Sheila's doing this demo

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<v Speaker 1>and it's the perfect time to like hijacket, so arcite's

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<v Speaker 1>we get in the suit. We're gonna need you in

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<v Speaker 1>the suit tonight. She runs a diagnostic on the suit

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<v Speaker 1>and it's not gonna be ready, and she's thinking, Okay,

0:26:08.240 --> 0:26:10.199
<v Speaker 1>I need help with this, Like how do I I

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<v Speaker 1>need help getting this suit up and running? Maybe Ramcage

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<v Speaker 1>can help.

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry, I gotta tell you though, this was the first

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<v Speaker 2>thing that took me out that are you's good? He's

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<v Speaker 2>he's not good exactly like you. Never He's just some

0:26:27.640 --> 0:26:30.359
<v Speaker 2>goofy guy like he why would he be able to

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<v Speaker 2>help you? Do you not have any other friends? Like? Please,

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<v Speaker 2>I know that you have another friend from m I

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<v Speaker 2>T cool cool, surey.

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<v Speaker 1>Full of like geniuses, like just go back to her

0:26:42.600 --> 0:26:46.480
<v Speaker 1>and like you need the course to please. So she

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<v Speaker 1>ends up going to the dark web and looking at

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<v Speaker 1>names of like dark web geniuses who like trade in

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<v Speaker 1>high tech illicit technology, and she finds this guy named

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<v Speaker 1>Joe McGillicuddy. And meanwhile, now is like talking to her

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<v Speaker 1>and like distracting her.

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<v Speaker 2>And knows weight like has.

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<v Speaker 1>Way too much of Natalie's full fledged memories and understanding

0:27:11.640 --> 0:27:16.080
<v Speaker 1>about Natalie's life, like again, this AI is Natalie one

0:27:16.160 --> 0:27:19.840
<v Speaker 1>hundred percent it's her, which how did this? Like?

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<v Speaker 2>I agree with you, it feels like there must be

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<v Speaker 2>some sort of magic. I was feeling like this is

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<v Speaker 2>either a hood situation or if the show is gonna

0:27:30.400 --> 0:27:33.200
<v Speaker 2>deliver on what the internet is guessing with Mephisto and

0:27:33.240 --> 0:27:35.919
<v Speaker 2>Mephisto situation. I agree now, I was feeling like a

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<v Speaker 2>hood type magical, some manipulation because it's too well formed.

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<v Speaker 1>How would you as how would your memories? How would

0:27:45.760 --> 0:27:50.800
<v Speaker 1>her memories of a person create the person? Like wouldn't

0:27:50.840 --> 0:27:54.280
<v Speaker 1>you need the one to one person that the actual

0:27:54.320 --> 0:27:55.200
<v Speaker 1>person's memories?

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<v Speaker 2>Not like in the comics, it's the idea of like

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<v Speaker 2>it's her perception of how Nashley would have grown up,

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<v Speaker 2>whereas here it's basically full Natalie. She's arguing with her.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think that going into this mission with that

0:28:13.160 --> 0:28:15.959
<v Speaker 2>AI of your friend is a clever idea, A rea like,

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<v Speaker 2>that's my biggest thing? Is I by the way that

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<v Speaker 2>get her?

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<v Speaker 1>That would have been interesting if there was some serious

0:28:22.119 --> 0:28:26.960
<v Speaker 1>dissonance between AI Natalie and real Natalie, like you look

0:28:27.080 --> 0:28:29.320
<v Speaker 1>like her, you talk like her, but there's you obviously

0:28:29.320 --> 0:28:32.480
<v Speaker 1>aren't like. But instead, like I kept on waiting for

0:28:32.600 --> 0:28:34.560
<v Speaker 1>that kind of like ominous note to sound and it

0:28:34.640 --> 0:28:37.600
<v Speaker 1>kind of never does. Yeah, but yeah, that's and then

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<v Speaker 1>the other thing is, isn't this gonna be like super

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<v Speaker 1>distracting and a like life or death mission.

0:28:41.800 --> 0:28:46.320
<v Speaker 2>To that's you and also like your AI best friend

0:28:46.320 --> 0:28:50.400
<v Speaker 2>who's also dead. I feel like, again, this is something

0:28:50.560 --> 0:28:53.960
<v Speaker 2>where I do feel like if Natalie hadn't had to

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<v Speaker 2>have been revealed at the end of the first episode,

0:28:56.440 --> 0:28:57.800
<v Speaker 2>or she had been revealed at the end of the

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<v Speaker 2>first episode, but we had a couple of episodes, maybe

0:29:00.440 --> 0:29:04.720
<v Speaker 2>a bottle episode to explore that relationship, and then you know,

0:29:04.960 --> 0:29:07.239
<v Speaker 2>and they they don't even get into the you know,

0:29:07.320 --> 0:29:09.400
<v Speaker 2>the fun stuff that we kind of love with this,

0:29:09.440 --> 0:29:13.040
<v Speaker 2>which is just like Jarvis is an acronym, you know,

0:29:13.120 --> 0:29:15.440
<v Speaker 2>you have this Natalie is in the comics is the

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<v Speaker 2>neuro autonomous technical Assistant and that intelligence and it's so

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<v Speaker 2>good and uh yeah, I just again, I think that

0:29:25.080 --> 0:29:29.320
<v Speaker 2>there needed to be a little more time. We talked

0:29:29.320 --> 0:29:33.320
<v Speaker 2>about this in pre pro and I think that Joelle

0:29:33.320 --> 0:29:35.320
<v Speaker 2>put it really well, which was kind of like tell

0:29:35.360 --> 0:29:38.239
<v Speaker 2>a smaller story if you don't have the time, but

0:29:38.280 --> 0:29:41.120
<v Speaker 2>we don't know this might have began meant to have

0:29:41.240 --> 0:29:45.240
<v Speaker 2>nine twelve episodes and or style. So I, yeah, this

0:29:45.280 --> 0:29:47.600
<v Speaker 2>is one of the first of Reari's decisions where I'm

0:29:47.600 --> 0:29:49.560
<v Speaker 2>going to be like, babe, what you're doing. But also

0:29:49.840 --> 0:29:51.840
<v Speaker 2>she's like twenty one, so I was also making a

0:29:51.880 --> 0:29:53.720
<v Speaker 2>lot of bad choices back then. Yes, so I'm not

0:29:53.720 --> 0:29:54.640
<v Speaker 2>going to judge too hard.

0:29:56.480 --> 0:30:00.520
<v Speaker 1>Really like uploads Natalie out of the suit into her

0:30:00.600 --> 0:30:03.680
<v Speaker 1>laptop so she can run the suit without any distractions.

0:30:03.680 --> 0:30:07.320
<v Speaker 1>Then she leaves re re rents Landon's wagon to get

0:30:07.320 --> 0:30:08.800
<v Speaker 1>the suit out to Evanston.

0:30:10.040 --> 0:30:13.320
<v Speaker 2>On the train. Joe seems like literally a regular Joe.

0:30:13.480 --> 0:30:17.840
<v Speaker 2>It's Alden Earnreich of Solo fame. She's talking to him

0:30:17.880 --> 0:30:18.480
<v Speaker 2>about stuff.

0:30:18.520 --> 0:30:20.960
<v Speaker 1>She gets into his house where because she helps him

0:30:20.960 --> 0:30:24.040
<v Speaker 1>with his groceries, and Joe's She's like, so, what's up.

0:30:24.080 --> 0:30:28.200
<v Speaker 1>I need a repulsor micro science y sounding thing, and

0:30:28.400 --> 0:30:32.240
<v Speaker 1>just like what about She's like, and she's like, no,

0:30:32.720 --> 0:30:36.080
<v Speaker 1>I need this science stuff or I'm gonna rat you

0:30:36.160 --> 0:30:38.520
<v Speaker 1>out to the FBI. Here's where I'm like, okay, now,

0:30:38.560 --> 0:30:42.000
<v Speaker 1>this is a thing that fast of all. First of all,

0:30:43.000 --> 0:30:45.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't know like comics read would not be like

0:30:45.640 --> 0:30:47.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna rat to the FBI.

0:30:48.680 --> 0:30:49.400
<v Speaker 2>I know that.

0:30:49.600 --> 0:30:53.080
<v Speaker 1>So here's another decision of rears where I'm like, did

0:30:53.120 --> 0:30:55.440
<v Speaker 1>you really just like threaten to rat this guy out

0:30:55.640 --> 0:30:58.360
<v Speaker 1>to the like you also you just met him like

0:30:58.400 --> 0:30:59.160
<v Speaker 1>he had killed you.

0:30:59.320 --> 0:31:04.120
<v Speaker 2>I know you're in they please, you're in his fancy

0:31:04.120 --> 0:31:04.960
<v Speaker 2>suburban house.

0:31:05.280 --> 0:31:10.240
<v Speaker 1>Well, Joe agrees, Okay, under penalty of being snitched out,

0:31:10.400 --> 0:31:12.720
<v Speaker 1>I will drive you to my secret wear.

0:31:12.880 --> 0:31:15.360
<v Speaker 2>Not setting up a good relationship with this person who

0:31:15.400 --> 0:31:18.520
<v Speaker 2>clearly isn't called Joe by the way, Like even from here,

0:31:18.640 --> 0:31:20.440
<v Speaker 2>I was like, Oh, I get it. I see who

0:31:20.480 --> 0:31:22.400
<v Speaker 2>he is. He loves iron Man makes.

0:31:22.240 --> 0:31:24.640
<v Speaker 1>Said I want to say this, everybody in this show

0:31:24.880 --> 0:31:26.120
<v Speaker 1>is doing a great job act.

0:31:26.160 --> 0:31:30.440
<v Speaker 2>They are acting their asses. I think I think this

0:31:30.520 --> 0:31:33.680
<v Speaker 2>is a really and obviously like this in itself is

0:31:33.800 --> 0:31:36.560
<v Speaker 2>kind of a problem, but ironically I think this is

0:31:36.560 --> 0:31:39.560
<v Speaker 2>like a really great role for Elden Aaron Wright and

0:31:40.520 --> 0:31:45.239
<v Speaker 2>shouldn't He's probably shouldn't be the standout, but he is

0:31:45.280 --> 0:31:48.560
<v Speaker 2>one of the standouts. But yeah, it's it's also a

0:31:48.680 --> 0:31:51.280
<v Speaker 2>very interesting character, as we'll get into and I actually

0:31:51.360 --> 0:31:54.720
<v Speaker 2>find the relationship between him and re Re very very

0:31:54.880 --> 0:31:58.120
<v Speaker 2>interesting because of who he is and who she is.

0:31:58.160 --> 0:32:00.440
<v Speaker 2>And yeah, we'll get into it. But also, why is

0:32:00.520 --> 0:32:07.200
<v Speaker 2>Natalie texting real time be letting that AI text you, bro?

0:32:07.480 --> 0:32:09.760
<v Speaker 2>We seen these men falling in love with chat GTP.

0:32:10.160 --> 0:32:13.520
<v Speaker 2>I mean in real life, do not let this guy text.

0:32:13.600 --> 0:32:15.520
<v Speaker 2>Do not let this AI text you, babe.

0:32:15.640 --> 0:32:18.080
<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's another issue. Not to get sidetracked, but

0:32:18.120 --> 0:32:23.960
<v Speaker 1>I think all of this storyline kind of happening as

0:32:25.160 --> 0:32:28.320
<v Speaker 1>we are made aware of numerous stories and numerous publications.

0:32:28.320 --> 0:32:31.640
<v Speaker 1>Required has written a lot about this about people who

0:32:32.200 --> 0:32:37.240
<v Speaker 1>are becoming either obsessed with their AI companions, their chat GPTs, whatever,

0:32:37.800 --> 0:32:40.720
<v Speaker 1>or are having chat ebt as a story in the

0:32:40.760 --> 0:32:45.160
<v Speaker 1>Times about this recently amplify their existing mental health issues

0:32:45.160 --> 0:32:49.120
<v Speaker 1>to a to a scary degree because they're just constantly

0:32:49.960 --> 0:32:51.240
<v Speaker 1>with what you believe.

0:32:51.680 --> 0:32:54.920
<v Speaker 2>Yes, you live in a yes you do. You know, Like,

0:32:55.760 --> 0:32:58.280
<v Speaker 2>it's not That's the thing is, it's not actually AI.

0:32:58.400 --> 0:33:01.840
<v Speaker 2>It's a large language model, so it's basically just learning

0:33:01.880 --> 0:33:04.080
<v Speaker 2>constantly and then wants you to use it more to

0:33:04.200 --> 0:33:06.760
<v Speaker 2>learn more, so it affirms your beliefs. It's not And

0:33:06.800 --> 0:33:09.120
<v Speaker 2>I think, like do I think that if this show

0:33:09.200 --> 0:33:11.560
<v Speaker 2>was thirteen episodes long, maybe they would be an interesting

0:33:11.600 --> 0:33:14.520
<v Speaker 2>inter interaction with that Maybe but do I think that

0:33:14.560 --> 0:33:17.920
<v Speaker 2>we're gonna get to find out about like why, I

0:33:17.960 --> 0:33:19.760
<v Speaker 2>don't know. I don't feel like the nat I feel

0:33:19.800 --> 0:33:22.800
<v Speaker 2>like the Natalie stuff is getting out of hand very quickly,

0:33:23.520 --> 0:33:24.720
<v Speaker 2>so too very quickly.

0:33:25.320 --> 0:33:27.640
<v Speaker 1>So on the drive, Natalie is texting reredoun stopped and

0:33:27.720 --> 0:33:29.479
<v Speaker 1>Joe begins crying and he won't.

0:33:30.000 --> 0:33:31.680
<v Speaker 2>They're like, She's like, why are you crying?

0:33:31.800 --> 0:33:34.760
<v Speaker 1>And he's like again he always looks like this is

0:33:34.800 --> 0:33:36.920
<v Speaker 1>like actually a fun scene.

0:33:37.160 --> 0:33:39.120
<v Speaker 2>And it's really good together.

0:33:39.240 --> 0:33:41.440
<v Speaker 1>They are quite good together. The chemistry is really great,

0:33:41.480 --> 0:33:44.920
<v Speaker 1>and it's very clear that Joe has like secrets. So meanwhile,

0:33:44.920 --> 0:33:49.040
<v Speaker 1>back at the house, in like talk about talk about

0:33:49.080 --> 0:33:53.280
<v Speaker 1>the Natalie stuff spinning out of control, Natalie escapes the

0:33:53.400 --> 0:33:57.040
<v Speaker 1>laptop into the Internet basically and gets into the.

0:33:56.880 --> 0:34:02.560
<v Speaker 2>Samy nineties like Internet horror as well many movies like Man.

0:34:04.720 --> 0:34:07.880
<v Speaker 2>She's in control of the blender. Guys, she's gonna kill

0:34:07.960 --> 0:34:10.400
<v Speaker 2>you with the blend. She's in the wires.

0:34:11.920 --> 0:34:15.360
<v Speaker 1>So she gets into the smart picture frame, you know

0:34:15.560 --> 0:34:17.359
<v Speaker 1>the picture frames that my mom I got my mom

0:34:17.400 --> 0:34:19.520
<v Speaker 1>on for Christmas, and she liked them.

0:34:19.719 --> 0:34:21.040
<v Speaker 2>She loved the moms love those.

0:34:21.040 --> 0:34:25.600
<v Speaker 1>And she's running around of the picture frame AND's mom

0:34:25.719 --> 0:34:30.359
<v Speaker 1>is at first like scared, and she's like, oh, like

0:34:30.520 --> 0:34:34.399
<v Speaker 1>it's a ghost, but no, it's like Natalie's like, no,

0:34:34.480 --> 0:34:34.920
<v Speaker 1>it's me.

0:34:35.080 --> 0:34:36.440
<v Speaker 2>And here's what's going on.

0:34:36.640 --> 0:34:39.800
<v Speaker 1>And and then she's like immediately to your point about

0:34:39.800 --> 0:34:43.360
<v Speaker 1>like pacing and emotional arcs and like to being too compressed.

0:34:43.520 --> 0:34:46.000
<v Speaker 1>She just immediately is like, Okay, this is not weird

0:34:46.040 --> 0:34:46.319
<v Speaker 1>at all.

0:34:46.400 --> 0:34:47.160
<v Speaker 2>In fact, it's.

0:34:46.960 --> 0:34:51.000
<v Speaker 1>Good, am I Like, what, like, you've just immediately moved

0:34:51.040 --> 0:34:55.600
<v Speaker 1>on from how crazy this is to she immediately likes it,

0:34:55.680 --> 0:34:57.040
<v Speaker 1>so that that is weird.

0:34:57.320 --> 0:34:59.799
<v Speaker 2>We go to the vault. Very weird, very very weird.

0:35:00.040 --> 0:35:02.239
<v Speaker 1>We go to the vault. It's like a silo in

0:35:02.239 --> 0:35:04.879
<v Speaker 1>the middle of some farmland. They go down there and

0:35:04.920 --> 0:35:07.720
<v Speaker 1>it's like a bunch of high tech, cutting edge stuff

0:35:07.760 --> 0:35:08.640
<v Speaker 1>that he has collected.

0:35:08.680 --> 0:35:12.479
<v Speaker 2>Weaponry. Now, that's all very iron Man coded. There's lots

0:35:12.480 --> 0:35:15.560
<v Speaker 2>of iron Man kind of stock tech down there. Why

0:35:15.560 --> 0:35:16.520
<v Speaker 2>would he care about that?

0:35:16.640 --> 0:35:19.720
<v Speaker 1>Jason, Well, he says the bunker makes him feel closer

0:35:19.840 --> 0:35:22.040
<v Speaker 1>to his dad, And I'm like, okay, your dad is

0:35:22.040 --> 0:35:22.719
<v Speaker 1>obad state.

0:35:22.800 --> 0:35:23.319
<v Speaker 2>I thought this.

0:35:24.200 --> 0:35:27.520
<v Speaker 1>Spoiler rack spoiler We do get this reveal later, but

0:35:27.640 --> 0:35:28.680
<v Speaker 1>it was very clear.

0:35:30.680 --> 0:35:32.120
<v Speaker 2>Dad is otate.

0:35:33.719 --> 0:35:36.480
<v Speaker 1>So Joe is like, I want to help people with

0:35:36.600 --> 0:35:40.240
<v Speaker 1>tech in much the way, yeah, the way that really

0:35:40.320 --> 0:35:44.040
<v Speaker 1>wants to read. Doesn't respond to this again, this is

0:35:44.120 --> 0:35:46.320
<v Speaker 1>like a small thing, but she doesn't trust Joe clearly,

0:35:46.400 --> 0:35:48.880
<v Speaker 1>but he has something she wants. We go back to

0:35:48.960 --> 0:35:51.759
<v Speaker 1>the apartment where Mom is having a full conversation with

0:35:51.840 --> 0:35:55.399
<v Speaker 1>Natalie now like it's totally normal, and she's like, wow,

0:35:55.440 --> 0:35:59.279
<v Speaker 1>you just seem like the real Natalie and not acknowledging

0:35:59.320 --> 0:36:05.360
<v Speaker 1>how strange this is. Mom tells Natalie that Listen is

0:36:05.400 --> 0:36:08.600
<v Speaker 1>really stubborn and the way to help her is you

0:36:08.680 --> 0:36:11.040
<v Speaker 1>have to force your You have to force your help

0:36:11.080 --> 0:36:13.279
<v Speaker 1>on her. That's the only way she will ax self help.

0:36:13.560 --> 0:36:17.240
<v Speaker 1>And Natalie is like okay, yeah and yeah, basically.

0:36:16.920 --> 0:36:19.400
<v Speaker 2>Gives her advice to give to an ai Mom.

0:36:19.719 --> 0:36:24.160
<v Speaker 1>And by the way, this is kind of my If

0:36:24.200 --> 0:36:27.640
<v Speaker 1>there's an elemental issue for me with Ironheart, it's that

0:36:27.719 --> 0:36:32.440
<v Speaker 1>like re Rey is constantly having help forced on her

0:36:32.480 --> 0:36:35.399
<v Speaker 1>or being talked into it. She doesn't make a lot

0:36:35.440 --> 0:36:38.319
<v Speaker 1>of decisions on her own, it feels like, and so it.

0:36:38.320 --> 0:36:41.239
<v Speaker 2>Feels ironically seeking out Joe as like one of the

0:36:41.280 --> 0:36:45.200
<v Speaker 2>only decisions that she makes, but everyone else is very

0:36:45.320 --> 0:36:47.920
<v Speaker 2>much like leading her down a Sutain road. Even if

0:36:47.960 --> 0:36:53.120
<v Speaker 2>you think about it with uh old the Hood Papa Robbins,

0:36:53.920 --> 0:36:56.719
<v Speaker 2>they essentially trap her in like a sow trap and

0:36:56.800 --> 0:37:00.400
<v Speaker 2>like yeahma bonta to joining and then blackmailho with So

0:37:00.440 --> 0:37:02.960
<v Speaker 2>there is not a lot of agency here, but in

0:37:03.000 --> 0:37:06.920
<v Speaker 2>a way I don't I kind of I don't know

0:37:06.920 --> 0:37:09.480
<v Speaker 2>if it's intentional or not, but I do kind of

0:37:09.640 --> 0:37:13.080
<v Speaker 2>like how that does also feel very realistic to when

0:37:13.120 --> 0:37:15.920
<v Speaker 2>you're that age, Like that isn't a lot of agency.

0:37:16.000 --> 0:37:18.319
<v Speaker 2>People can lead you down these roads. But it is

0:37:18.360 --> 0:37:22.000
<v Speaker 2>weird that it's like an ongoing thread where somebody even says,

0:37:22.040 --> 0:37:24.640
<v Speaker 2>like force help on her. It's the only way she'll

0:37:24.680 --> 0:37:27.680
<v Speaker 2>accept it, you know. It starts to be like an

0:37:27.760 --> 0:37:30.640
<v Speaker 2>excuse to just tell really where she's going.

0:37:31.320 --> 0:37:38.560
<v Speaker 1>So At the Vault really asks Joe for his take

0:37:38.600 --> 0:37:41.200
<v Speaker 1>on now he basically describes the situation with Natalie.

0:37:42.280 --> 0:37:44.120
<v Speaker 2>Joe's like, that can't happen. It's impossible.

0:37:44.400 --> 0:37:46.440
<v Speaker 1>She's like, well, what if it did happen, He'd be like, well,

0:37:46.560 --> 0:37:48.960
<v Speaker 1>it be unethical. For one thing, we find out that

0:37:48.960 --> 0:37:51.080
<v Speaker 1>his like day job is like he's a tech ethicist.

0:37:51.120 --> 0:37:53.920
<v Speaker 2>It's ethicist, Yeah, which is from the comics.

0:37:54.000 --> 0:37:59.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and so really has to basically go Joe into

0:37:59.480 --> 0:38:03.080
<v Speaker 1>helping her tweak the suit. And there's this weird note

0:38:03.080 --> 0:38:05.279
<v Speaker 1>where Joe doesn't want to touch anything. He doesn't want

0:38:05.320 --> 0:38:08.080
<v Speaker 1>to touch any of the tech that he's collected. So

0:38:08.719 --> 0:38:11.840
<v Speaker 1>Re really like forces him to like handle this piece

0:38:11.880 --> 0:38:13.279
<v Speaker 1>of like gear.

0:38:13.080 --> 0:38:15.359
<v Speaker 2>And how does it feel. It feels cold and medally and.

0:38:15.560 --> 0:38:18.120
<v Speaker 1>It's clear that he really is warming up to it,

0:38:18.440 --> 0:38:21.120
<v Speaker 1>and then Re shoots off and flies off to the heist.

0:38:21.280 --> 0:38:25.120
<v Speaker 1>The heist begins, and it's all basically going according to plan,

0:38:25.320 --> 0:38:28.279
<v Speaker 1>with only one obvious murder in the control room when

0:38:28.360 --> 0:38:30.640
<v Speaker 1>Jonathan Knife's a guy like throws a knife into his

0:38:30.800 --> 0:38:33.480
<v Speaker 1>chest and it's clear that that guy is dead, but

0:38:33.560 --> 0:38:37.920
<v Speaker 1>we never discuss it later and almost like maybe a.

0:38:38.120 --> 0:38:42.000
<v Speaker 2>Good kind of like note that maybe John is a

0:38:42.080 --> 0:38:47.600
<v Speaker 2>little bit like he always not. He's I mean one

0:38:47.800 --> 0:38:51.239
<v Speaker 2>like if you're in, if your major hyperfixation is nice, yeah,

0:38:51.719 --> 0:38:56.640
<v Speaker 2>never bodes well. Like let's talk about not to chat

0:38:56.680 --> 0:38:59.360
<v Speaker 2>GTPH but yeah, oh my god, I call it the

0:38:59.360 --> 0:39:01.040
<v Speaker 2>wrong name every time. I'm sorry, guys, but you know what,

0:39:01.120 --> 0:39:03.200
<v Speaker 2>that's just me, that's just who I am. I'll never

0:39:03.320 --> 0:39:05.840
<v Speaker 2>remember chat GPT is the real name, sorry chat GPT,

0:39:06.120 --> 0:39:09.279
<v Speaker 2>So that guy's did that, and then the c and

0:39:09.280 --> 0:39:12.960
<v Speaker 2>then Sheila the CEO, enters the tunnel system. The Gang

0:39:13.080 --> 0:39:15.520
<v Speaker 2>is taking control of the control.

0:39:15.280 --> 0:39:18.480
<v Speaker 1>Room of the tunnel project with Slug, you know, like

0:39:20.000 --> 0:39:25.640
<v Speaker 1>doing all the hacking stuff, and Slug gives re read

0:39:25.960 --> 0:39:28.880
<v Speaker 1>like a drive device that she needs to use to

0:39:29.000 --> 0:39:33.880
<v Speaker 1>like install on the platform that is carrying Sheila's car.

0:39:34.400 --> 0:39:40.160
<v Speaker 1>But uh, problems arise and she and re loses the

0:39:40.280 --> 0:39:43.120
<v Speaker 1>drive and so she has to contact the gang and

0:39:43.160 --> 0:39:45.080
<v Speaker 1>be like, Okay, new plan, here's what we're going to do.

0:39:45.840 --> 0:39:49.400
<v Speaker 1>And the plan the plan works, the tunnel system crashes

0:39:49.560 --> 0:39:51.880
<v Speaker 1>just as it's supposed to do, and then the Hood

0:39:52.040 --> 0:39:54.440
<v Speaker 1>appears in Sheila's car right next to her, like it

0:39:54.520 --> 0:39:57.400
<v Speaker 1>becomes visible, yeah, and he Basically we find out what

0:39:57.440 --> 0:40:00.440
<v Speaker 1>the what the whole gig of the gang is. It's

0:40:00.480 --> 0:40:04.439
<v Speaker 1>basically they're extorting these billionaires and being like, here's here's

0:40:04.480 --> 0:40:08.040
<v Speaker 1>a contract for like no show jobs for every member

0:40:08.080 --> 0:40:10.120
<v Speaker 1>of the gang where we all make I don't know

0:40:10.160 --> 0:40:11.719
<v Speaker 1>what this. What do you think the salary is on

0:40:11.760 --> 0:40:13.840
<v Speaker 1>the no show It's it's.

0:40:13.719 --> 0:40:17.960
<v Speaker 2>Given like at least six figures a gig two fifty

0:40:18.320 --> 0:40:22.000
<v Speaker 2>h time. Yeah, and and the idea is that kind

0:40:22.040 --> 0:40:26.880
<v Speaker 2>of hilariously, I didn't really And it's everything tell that

0:40:27.080 --> 0:40:32.799
<v Speaker 2>basically they're finding leverage on these billionaires and then being like, hey,

0:40:32.920 --> 0:40:35.879
<v Speaker 2>we'll reveal this if you don't give us a job.

0:40:35.960 --> 0:40:38.279
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, what about we'll reveal this if you just

0:40:38.320 --> 0:40:40.040
<v Speaker 2>give us money, Like why do you have to do

0:40:40.080 --> 0:40:42.520
<v Speaker 2>the labor, like just extort them for the money?

0:40:42.719 --> 0:40:45.239
<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean it's a I guess it's like, well no,

0:40:45.280 --> 0:40:47.799
<v Speaker 1>because it's a no show job, like like in the Mob,

0:40:47.920 --> 0:40:50.680
<v Speaker 1>where they don't have to go to work, but technically

0:40:50.680 --> 0:40:51.160
<v Speaker 1>they are.

0:40:51.040 --> 0:40:53.239
<v Speaker 2>On the page getting paid. Yeah. Yeah.

0:40:53.280 --> 0:40:57.160
<v Speaker 1>Now my issue with that is now, like your bank

0:40:57.200 --> 0:41:00.840
<v Speaker 1>account and everything is connected to these crimes. It feels

0:41:00.880 --> 0:41:04.719
<v Speaker 1>like just to your point, just get the cash and leave.

0:41:04.800 --> 0:41:05.920
<v Speaker 1>Let's get the cash, guys.

0:41:06.960 --> 0:41:10.399
<v Speaker 2>So then so it seems like it's going well.

0:41:10.480 --> 0:41:13.480
<v Speaker 1>Sheila signs the contract for the no show jobs and

0:41:14.280 --> 0:41:16.600
<v Speaker 1>a lifetime access to the tunnel, So now the gang

0:41:16.640 --> 0:41:18.760
<v Speaker 1>can use the tunnels to like go to and fro.

0:41:18.760 --> 0:41:21.759
<v Speaker 2>And the enough to pay a troll. A security guard.

0:41:21.480 --> 0:41:26.880
<v Speaker 1>Confronts Natalie as they've exited the tunnels in the armor,

0:41:26.920 --> 0:41:29.839
<v Speaker 1>so Rere and Natalie are in the armor and they've

0:41:29.880 --> 0:41:34.360
<v Speaker 1>exited and this security guard has a gun pulled and

0:41:34.760 --> 0:41:38.640
<v Speaker 1>the face visor is up, so like Reary is exposed

0:41:39.080 --> 0:41:43.160
<v Speaker 1>and seeing this gun causes Rere to have like, you know,

0:41:43.280 --> 0:41:49.879
<v Speaker 1>church post traumatic trauma like attack, and just in that moment,

0:41:50.000 --> 0:41:53.240
<v Speaker 1>Natalie also glitches, and so now Reread doesn't have control

0:41:53.239 --> 0:41:56.480
<v Speaker 1>of the suit. And then the guy shoots, but the

0:41:56.520 --> 0:42:00.080
<v Speaker 1>bullet like Bend's wanted style.

0:42:00.200 --> 0:42:03.440
<v Speaker 2>I was gonna say immediately, I was like, oh, I

0:42:03.440 --> 0:42:05.280
<v Speaker 2>was bending a bullet.

0:42:05.360 --> 0:42:11.400
<v Speaker 1>Okay, okay, it bends, one hits, the hits the security

0:42:11.400 --> 0:42:12.040
<v Speaker 1>guard on the shoulder.

0:42:12.080 --> 0:42:14.840
<v Speaker 2>He goes down and it's park Parker did this somehow,

0:42:14.840 --> 0:42:18.000
<v Speaker 2>you like, with the wood's power.

0:42:19.040 --> 0:42:23.359
<v Speaker 1>And so that's one with a bullet wound and then

0:42:23.400 --> 0:42:26.840
<v Speaker 1>one guy one hundred percent dead. But they got the money.

0:42:26.880 --> 0:42:29.839
<v Speaker 1>So the gang goes to celebrate it to hideout, and

0:42:29.920 --> 0:42:32.040
<v Speaker 1>they're like throwing cash around, which is like, where'd they

0:42:32.080 --> 0:42:35.400
<v Speaker 1>get the cash so quickly whatever. Reary is obviously concerned

0:42:35.400 --> 0:42:38.720
<v Speaker 1>because this did not go as smoothly as it seems.

0:42:39.000 --> 0:42:47.040
<v Speaker 2>I thought they didn't have people guys like dead.

0:42:48.760 --> 0:42:51.680
<v Speaker 1>Jonathand so the heut is way more violent she was

0:42:51.680 --> 0:42:54.600
<v Speaker 1>expecting she is. And then she's also like very curious

0:42:54.640 --> 0:42:59.080
<v Speaker 1>because like Parker has powers, like wait, what's this about? Yeah,

0:42:59.200 --> 0:43:01.680
<v Speaker 1>so she's asking clown about it. What do you know

0:43:01.880 --> 0:43:04.120
<v Speaker 1>about him? And there's a lot of rumors flying around

0:43:04.120 --> 0:43:06.040
<v Speaker 1>nobody knows for sure, like what's going on around him?

0:43:06.239 --> 0:43:09.040
<v Speaker 1>Parker comes out, he makes a speech that's very cult leader.

0:43:10.080 --> 0:43:13.239
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, very very cult Come on, bro, Like

0:43:13.600 --> 0:43:16.560
<v Speaker 2>I was also okay, so let's check in at this point. Yeah,

0:43:16.640 --> 0:43:19.319
<v Speaker 2>like I would say, maybe, okay, we're about to hit

0:43:19.400 --> 0:43:21.600
<v Speaker 2>like the fine the credits are about to roll on

0:43:21.800 --> 0:43:25.120
<v Speaker 2>episode two at this point, what do you believe? How

0:43:25.160 --> 0:43:28.720
<v Speaker 2>in control of the Hood is Parker? Is the Hood

0:43:28.920 --> 0:43:32.840
<v Speaker 2>real tech? Is it magic? What do you think of

0:43:32.960 --> 0:43:35.560
<v Speaker 2>Parker at this moment? Because this was definitely giving like

0:43:36.280 --> 0:43:40.480
<v Speaker 2>kind of almost like Mysterio two point zero vibes to

0:43:40.560 --> 0:43:43.360
<v Speaker 2>me at this point, especially with but the cult leader

0:43:44.000 --> 0:43:46.840
<v Speaker 2>speech and then obviously the fact he can bend the bullets,

0:43:46.920 --> 0:43:51.080
<v Speaker 2>and I was I was still definitely in I was

0:43:51.200 --> 0:43:54.160
<v Speaker 2>questioning at this point because we had posed the idea

0:43:54.200 --> 0:43:57.239
<v Speaker 2>that he was gonna maybe just be using tech and

0:43:57.280 --> 0:43:59.640
<v Speaker 2>that would be that grounded nature. But they are very

0:44:00.040 --> 0:44:03.200
<v Speaker 2>Billy leaning on the notion of magic and talking about magic.

0:44:03.640 --> 0:44:06.120
<v Speaker 2>So I'm I was definitely interested.

0:44:06.480 --> 0:44:10.719
<v Speaker 1>Well consist point, I think considering how one to one,

0:44:10.800 --> 0:44:13.040
<v Speaker 1>a lot of the stuff is in the show thus far,

0:44:13.200 --> 0:44:15.719
<v Speaker 1>like from the comics, I think that, yeah, I think

0:44:15.760 --> 0:44:18.640
<v Speaker 1>that it is magic, and then I think, you know,

0:44:18.680 --> 0:44:21.880
<v Speaker 1>there's this there's these whisperings that are happening, and the scenes.

0:44:21.600 --> 0:44:24.760
<v Speaker 2>Where it's just Parker and Jonathan, and yeah, it sounds

0:44:24.960 --> 0:44:26.959
<v Speaker 2>like there's kind of yes.

0:44:27.600 --> 0:44:30.520
<v Speaker 1>So I do believe that it's magic, and I think

0:44:30.520 --> 0:44:33.799
<v Speaker 1>it's probably if it's not the Fisto, it's some sort

0:44:33.800 --> 0:44:34.640
<v Speaker 1>of other demon.

0:44:34.719 --> 0:44:38.200
<v Speaker 2>But it's problem Yeah, Like we know that the cloak

0:44:38.320 --> 0:44:41.279
<v Speaker 2>actually connects him to Dormamu in the comics, but I

0:44:41.280 --> 0:44:43.919
<v Speaker 2>think we've done with dor Mamu, doctor Strange. I feel

0:44:43.920 --> 0:44:45.160
<v Speaker 2>like that would be a let down to a lot

0:44:45.160 --> 0:44:48.400
<v Speaker 2>of people. The cloak is also giving wonder maximum of

0:44:48.560 --> 0:44:50.759
<v Speaker 2>so I have been interested in that because it looks

0:44:50.800 --> 0:44:53.480
<v Speaker 2>like it's made out of her costume. It's that very

0:44:53.760 --> 0:44:56.520
<v Speaker 2>It's like is it leather? Is it some kind of

0:44:56.600 --> 0:45:00.319
<v Speaker 2>athleisure fabric? Like what's going on with the herd? But

0:45:00.360 --> 0:45:04.480
<v Speaker 2>it's definitely it's taking a toll on Parker because he's

0:45:04.520 --> 0:45:07.160
<v Speaker 2>got all the scars, yes, having to cover them up

0:45:07.160 --> 0:45:11.959
<v Speaker 2>with some like fucking prism break style tattoos like which

0:45:12.000 --> 0:45:14.760
<v Speaker 2>I guess is Jonathan doing the tattoos too.

0:45:16.000 --> 0:45:19.160
<v Speaker 1>Yes, Jonathan is also he's again jacket again, a jack

0:45:19.200 --> 0:45:21.719
<v Speaker 1>of jacket everything.

0:45:22.320 --> 0:45:24.600
<v Speaker 2>Who doesn't love to have a friendly tattoo artist in

0:45:24.800 --> 0:45:26.959
<v Speaker 2>that evil HQ. That's right, So.

0:45:29.960 --> 0:45:32.279
<v Speaker 1>Everyone toasts, you know, it's a job well done, but

0:45:32.320 --> 0:45:34.440
<v Speaker 1>it's clear that Weary is like this is I have

0:45:34.480 --> 0:45:38.040
<v Speaker 1>doubts about this? Yeah, obviously you guy's dead. Anyway, they

0:45:38.040 --> 0:45:41.760
<v Speaker 1>go back home. Natalie apologizes for glitching out. She's froze

0:45:41.800 --> 0:45:44.440
<v Speaker 1>when she saw the gun and reads like, what do

0:45:44.520 --> 0:45:47.839
<v Speaker 1>you remember about like this certain night on this certain days?

0:45:47.840 --> 0:45:49.120
<v Speaker 1>She's like, I don't remember anything about it?

0:45:49.160 --> 0:45:49.600
<v Speaker 2>What happened?

0:45:50.280 --> 0:45:53.920
<v Speaker 1>And Natalie says also, but by the way, like Parker,

0:45:54.000 --> 0:45:56.879
<v Speaker 1>there's like a weird energy coming off of him. It's

0:45:56.880 --> 0:46:01.200
<v Speaker 1>like nothing I've ever read like since before. He's powered

0:46:01.239 --> 0:46:05.640
<v Speaker 1>in some way. Re Rey is much more focused though,

0:46:05.760 --> 0:46:08.440
<v Speaker 1>on her barely functioning AI and the fact that like

0:46:08.520 --> 0:46:11.960
<v Speaker 1>the glitch almost killed them. And then but before she

0:46:12.000 --> 0:46:14.000
<v Speaker 1>can really explore this, she's like, oh, I said I

0:46:14.000 --> 0:46:16.040
<v Speaker 1>would go meet Zay at this party. So she goes

0:46:16.080 --> 0:46:19.759
<v Speaker 1>to the party, and Natalie promises to stay hidden from

0:46:19.800 --> 0:46:21.440
<v Speaker 1>her brother, which is also.

0:46:21.280 --> 0:46:24.200
<v Speaker 2>Like, bro, like your mama's already also like your mama

0:46:24.560 --> 0:46:29.120
<v Speaker 2>about how about you fix the AI of your best

0:46:29.120 --> 0:46:33.360
<v Speaker 2>friend that you have understated into this metal body and

0:46:33.520 --> 0:46:38.280
<v Speaker 2>don't go to the party deal anyway?

0:46:39.560 --> 0:46:41.919
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I feel like that's a genius would be like, well,

0:46:42.200 --> 0:46:45.480
<v Speaker 1>this is obviously a much more pressing and interesting problem

0:46:45.600 --> 0:46:46.239
<v Speaker 1>than like the party.

0:46:46.239 --> 0:46:48.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm not gonna go, know the party anyway. Back at

0:46:48.400 --> 0:46:51.400
<v Speaker 2>the hideout, it's very p it's very peapaka issues like

0:46:51.719 --> 0:46:54.200
<v Speaker 2>double life. You have to go see your friends, but

0:46:54.320 --> 0:46:56.799
<v Speaker 2>really you're like, maybe you should stop the Green Goblin, bro.

0:46:57.520 --> 0:46:59.000
<v Speaker 2>So it's very classic comics.

0:46:59.360 --> 0:47:02.399
<v Speaker 1>So Parker is hearing voices, the hood is kind of

0:47:02.480 --> 0:47:07.520
<v Speaker 1>talking to him. He's like writhing with discomfort, and his

0:47:07.640 --> 0:47:11.400
<v Speaker 1>back tattoos like obviously getting bigger, and John is worried

0:47:11.400 --> 0:47:15.320
<v Speaker 1>about him. You know what all of this is doing

0:47:15.360 --> 0:47:17.960
<v Speaker 1>to him, he basically says, And Parker's like, don't worry

0:47:17.960 --> 0:47:18.279
<v Speaker 1>about it.

0:47:18.320 --> 0:47:18.960
<v Speaker 2>That's my business.

0:47:19.000 --> 0:47:21.560
<v Speaker 1>Now get out of here, give me some privacy. Gets

0:47:21.560 --> 0:47:23.759
<v Speaker 1>home and her mom is like what are you gonna

0:47:23.760 --> 0:47:25.080
<v Speaker 1>tell me you resurrected Natalie?

0:47:28.440 --> 0:47:33.040
<v Speaker 2>Mom? What do you want me to go to therapy? Don't

0:47:33.040 --> 0:47:34.920
<v Speaker 2>you tell me? Are we going to tell?

0:47:36.120 --> 0:47:40.480
<v Speaker 1>And then she and then she says, this is actually

0:47:40.800 --> 0:47:43.719
<v Speaker 1>crazy to me. She goes, it's like you brought back

0:47:43.760 --> 0:47:47.279
<v Speaker 1>her entire soul. And then she says, can you make

0:47:47.320 --> 0:47:50.799
<v Speaker 1>one of Gary, her dad, her stepdad. Technically I'm gonna

0:47:50.840 --> 0:47:51.680
<v Speaker 1>call him dad.

0:47:52.080 --> 0:47:56.439
<v Speaker 2>He's the dad, yeah, and he's the dad who stepped up. Yeah.

0:47:56.480 --> 0:47:59.560
<v Speaker 1>And she's like, can you make one of Gary? And

0:47:59.640 --> 0:48:02.160
<v Speaker 1>really says no and p because she doesn't knew how

0:48:02.160 --> 0:48:03.279
<v Speaker 1>she did Nalie.

0:48:03.000 --> 0:48:07.080
<v Speaker 2>But this is like a fact we're not now gonna

0:48:07.120 --> 0:48:11.040
<v Speaker 2>explore these questions. Is like you need to explore these

0:48:11.120 --> 0:48:14.359
<v Speaker 2>first of all proof. Can I just say, even though

0:48:14.400 --> 0:48:16.600
<v Speaker 2>it came in a very up way that could be

0:48:16.640 --> 0:48:24.080
<v Speaker 2>making bank, she just this this is but also, like, guys,

0:48:24.719 --> 0:48:27.560
<v Speaker 2>you both need to go to therapy and have some

0:48:27.800 --> 0:48:32.440
<v Speaker 2>deep like E D M R like former therapy, because

0:48:32.480 --> 0:48:36.040
<v Speaker 2>you should not just be thinking about how to resurrect

0:48:36.080 --> 0:48:39.760
<v Speaker 2>ai versions of your dead loved ones. That is literally

0:48:40.040 --> 0:48:42.200
<v Speaker 2>it's been done in black mirror like three or four times.

0:48:42.239 --> 0:48:45.799
<v Speaker 2>Don't do it it's gonna go badly. Also, I love

0:48:45.960 --> 0:48:49.400
<v Speaker 2>like I do feel from a from a creative perspective,

0:48:49.800 --> 0:48:51.759
<v Speaker 2>I feel like the way they introduce the mom is

0:48:51.800 --> 0:48:54.280
<v Speaker 2>like she's super chilling, cool and just lets ree redo

0:48:54.280 --> 0:48:56.319
<v Speaker 2>what she wants. And I feel like at some point

0:48:56.600 --> 0:48:58.480
<v Speaker 2>they must have been like, yeah, yeah, that's why she's

0:48:58.480 --> 0:49:00.839
<v Speaker 2>not bothered about Natalie. And I'm like, no, guys, has

0:49:00.840 --> 0:49:03.719
<v Speaker 2>a difference about having a mama's chill. I also get

0:49:04.000 --> 0:49:07.680
<v Speaker 2>also spelled from school. There was no suggestion chill. There

0:49:07.719 --> 0:49:09.560
<v Speaker 2>was like in the initial.

0:49:09.120 --> 0:49:11.600
<v Speaker 1>Meeting of her, there was like a I forget the

0:49:11.600 --> 0:49:13.400
<v Speaker 1>line exactly, but we kind of like get got a

0:49:13.400 --> 0:49:15.440
<v Speaker 1>suggestion that she was religious. And I'll just say, like

0:49:15.480 --> 0:49:19.960
<v Speaker 1>every religious person I know, oh would respond to this

0:49:20.080 --> 0:49:23.080
<v Speaker 1>situation like it was the devil. Like they would it

0:49:23.120 --> 0:49:25.440
<v Speaker 1>would not be good. And I will say, like to

0:49:25.520 --> 0:49:27.799
<v Speaker 1>your point about the black mirror stuff and any other

0:49:28.080 --> 0:49:30.920
<v Speaker 1>AI comes to life like story that we've heard, Yeah,

0:49:30.960 --> 0:49:33.800
<v Speaker 1>it's more weird to me that it seems like there's

0:49:33.800 --> 0:49:35.640
<v Speaker 1>gonna be no downside, it's.

0:49:35.520 --> 0:49:39.800
<v Speaker 2>Gonna be all fine. That seems weirder to me. I

0:49:40.960 --> 0:49:43.359
<v Speaker 2>will also say I do think because again, like reading

0:49:43.440 --> 0:49:47.280
<v Speaker 2>the comics, I think something that they missed Tia the

0:49:47.320 --> 0:49:49.640
<v Speaker 2>which I get it because I love the idea of

0:49:49.680 --> 0:49:53.360
<v Speaker 2>her having her own story, but in the comics really

0:49:53.520 --> 0:49:58.080
<v Speaker 2>is used to weird AI inhabit like that exists because

0:49:58.120 --> 0:50:01.560
<v Speaker 2>she is walking with an AI version of Tony Stark

0:50:01.600 --> 0:50:04.080
<v Speaker 2>who just like walks around her house and like in

0:50:04.120 --> 0:50:07.320
<v Speaker 2>her office and helps her, so she is less freaked

0:50:07.360 --> 0:50:09.560
<v Speaker 2>out by it. I think the fact that we don't

0:50:09.560 --> 0:50:13.359
<v Speaker 2>have that history here or that kind of conversation or

0:50:13.360 --> 0:50:16.600
<v Speaker 2>a stand in for that makes it seem absolutely wild

0:50:16.640 --> 0:50:20.040
<v Speaker 2>that her and her mama just like loving this guy's great.

0:50:19.840 --> 0:50:24.440
<v Speaker 1>Immediately okay with it. We go to Evanston, where Joe

0:50:24.560 --> 0:50:27.800
<v Speaker 1>steps in his neighbor's dogs shit on his lawns.

0:50:27.840 --> 0:50:28.680
<v Speaker 2>So he goes over and.

0:50:28.600 --> 0:50:31.399
<v Speaker 1>He like decapitates all of his neighbor's flowers. Our first

0:50:31.480 --> 0:50:33.680
<v Speaker 1>kind of hint maybe that there's something darker about Joe.

0:50:33.800 --> 0:50:35.640
<v Speaker 1>Let's go to a break and then we'll talk about

0:50:36.120 --> 0:50:40.240
<v Speaker 1>the third episode in the tranche of three episodes.

0:50:40.440 --> 0:50:56.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and we're back.

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<v Speaker 1>So the Gang is celebrating with its new founderings of

0:50:59.600 --> 0:51:02.759
<v Speaker 1>throwing all around. They're talking about their plans, like I

0:51:02.760 --> 0:51:06.920
<v Speaker 1>want to open a restaurant, rampage.

0:51:06.400 --> 0:51:11.000
<v Speaker 2>No one knows is big clubs.

0:51:11.120 --> 0:51:13.560
<v Speaker 1>Like Clown is like, I want to open a school

0:51:13.680 --> 0:51:15.200
<v Speaker 1>for money laundering purposes.

0:51:15.400 --> 0:51:16.239
<v Speaker 2>The siblings want to open.

0:51:16.280 --> 0:51:20.479
<v Speaker 1>I appreciate, and Red is of course investing in her suit,

0:51:21.280 --> 0:51:22.719
<v Speaker 1>to which again I say, like.

0:51:22.640 --> 0:51:26.319
<v Speaker 2>What's we needed end? We need an end goal for readabies.

0:51:26.520 --> 0:51:29.080
<v Speaker 1>That's looking pretty good, it's working, Like, so what are

0:51:29.120 --> 0:51:31.480
<v Speaker 1>we waiting working? I feel like you just need to

0:51:31.520 --> 0:51:33.799
<v Speaker 1>like just go to the car shop painting it, like

0:51:34.120 --> 0:51:36.360
<v Speaker 1>I feel like a prey, close babe. So the party

0:51:36.400 --> 0:51:40.439
<v Speaker 1>screeches to a halt when Clown comes out of Parker's room,

0:51:40.560 --> 0:51:43.120
<v Speaker 1>having picked Parker's vault and taken out the hood, and

0:51:43.160 --> 0:51:46.760
<v Speaker 1>she's got the hood on and she's like prancing around

0:51:46.760 --> 0:51:47.399
<v Speaker 1>and she's like.

0:51:47.320 --> 0:51:49.560
<v Speaker 2>But it feels weird. There's something weird about it.

0:51:50.280 --> 0:51:51.920
<v Speaker 1>They kind of talk about like trying to figure out

0:51:51.920 --> 0:51:53.799
<v Speaker 1>what's going on with the Hood and figuring out like

0:51:53.840 --> 0:51:55.600
<v Speaker 1>where Parker's powers come from.

0:51:55.640 --> 0:52:00.359
<v Speaker 2>But then an interesting and sensible divugeon for the gag

0:52:00.480 --> 0:52:02.759
<v Speaker 2>you should be doing this, But then John shows up

0:52:02.760 --> 0:52:06.280
<v Speaker 2>and like bashes Clown's head into the table. Crazy John's

0:52:06.320 --> 0:52:08.719
<v Speaker 2>done for in my mind, And then Rey is like,

0:52:08.800 --> 0:52:12.480
<v Speaker 2>what's your problem, to which I would say, and I'm

0:52:12.520 --> 0:52:15.680
<v Speaker 2>not condoning violence, but also like, well you did just

0:52:15.719 --> 0:52:19.000
<v Speaker 2>break into the guy's like vaults, like safe, who's running this?

0:52:19.200 --> 0:52:23.400
<v Speaker 1>You understand what the problem is. And so then Parker

0:52:23.440 --> 0:52:25.480
<v Speaker 1>shows up and is like everybody, everybody chill up.

0:52:25.600 --> 0:52:27.720
<v Speaker 2>It's fine, John, it's fine.

0:52:27.480 --> 0:52:31.600
<v Speaker 1>Clown, don't worry about it. Everybody chill Here's what're.

0:52:33.120 --> 0:52:36.640
<v Speaker 2>The come on, guys, this is not a good situation. Again,

0:52:37.160 --> 0:52:41.480
<v Speaker 2>I think this is a pacing issue because, for example,

0:52:41.960 --> 0:52:45.160
<v Speaker 2>would have loved to see Clown pick that safe love

0:52:45.200 --> 0:52:47.279
<v Speaker 2>the idea that they would have tried. Everyone would have

0:52:47.280 --> 0:52:49.239
<v Speaker 2>tried to try on that suit, right the guy. Everyone

0:52:49.320 --> 0:52:51.759
<v Speaker 2>wants to know how it works. It's them. We know

0:52:51.880 --> 0:52:54.680
<v Speaker 2>the world that we're living in. There are superheroes, there

0:52:54.680 --> 0:52:57.680
<v Speaker 2>are super villains. This has power, and I think again,

0:52:58.520 --> 0:53:01.120
<v Speaker 2>like John putting his hands on a woman like that

0:53:01.320 --> 0:53:05.120
<v Speaker 2>should have expanded a conversation, and it does influence something

0:53:05.360 --> 0:53:07.799
<v Speaker 2>really does light, which I think is interesting. But yeah,

0:53:07.840 --> 0:53:12.480
<v Speaker 2>then hot Hood and Poka being like, oh, let's just

0:53:13.239 --> 0:53:15.480
<v Speaker 2>go on to our next tyst. I'm like, bro, the

0:53:15.600 --> 0:53:19.000
<v Speaker 2>gang is not solid, Like there is beef in the gang,

0:53:19.120 --> 0:53:21.280
<v Speaker 2>Like this is gonna end badly for someone.

0:53:21.920 --> 0:53:24.879
<v Speaker 1>So here's the next heist. It's Heirloom, which is an

0:53:24.960 --> 0:53:31.240
<v Speaker 1>ag tech company. CEO Hunter Mason is into like making

0:53:32.360 --> 0:53:36.480
<v Speaker 1>seeds and archiving seeds and creating food that you can

0:53:36.520 --> 0:53:40.600
<v Speaker 1>grow like kind of in different places using technology. The

0:53:40.640 --> 0:53:43.160
<v Speaker 1>thing about Heirloom HQ is it has really good security

0:53:43.200 --> 0:53:45.319
<v Speaker 1>where it's like a magneto thing. You can't bring in

0:53:45.360 --> 0:53:49.879
<v Speaker 1>any metal or weaponry. Yeah, or the security system will

0:53:50.640 --> 0:53:52.839
<v Speaker 1>sense it in lockdown no matter where it is. So

0:53:52.920 --> 0:53:55.759
<v Speaker 1>that means no suit for re. Rea re Re talks

0:53:55.800 --> 0:53:58.200
<v Speaker 1>of the hood and here we have this conversation that

0:53:58.280 --> 0:54:03.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, this kind of shouldn't this shouldn't exist.

0:54:03.040 --> 0:54:05.479
<v Speaker 2>She says, yeah, the hood. Okay, what are we doing?

0:54:05.560 --> 0:54:06.200
<v Speaker 2>Like what is this?

0:54:06.280 --> 0:54:09.320
<v Speaker 1>We're doing crimes? I want you to know that I'm

0:54:09.640 --> 0:54:12.360
<v Speaker 1>a good person, not a criminal, and.

0:54:12.560 --> 0:54:16.040
<v Speaker 2>We had I think also, this is like this is

0:54:16.400 --> 0:54:20.640
<v Speaker 2>where I feel like here, this could have been such

0:54:20.719 --> 0:54:26.080
<v Speaker 2>an interesting conversation to have about the notion of criminal

0:54:26.280 --> 0:54:30.640
<v Speaker 2>criminality and somebody like Tony Stark who was a literal

0:54:30.719 --> 0:54:35.520
<v Speaker 2>war criminal and had to reimagine his world, and there

0:54:35.520 --> 0:54:39.319
<v Speaker 2>could have been like a five minute at least a

0:54:39.440 --> 0:54:43.560
<v Speaker 2>tiny introspection on the notion of like what is crime

0:54:43.719 --> 0:54:46.839
<v Speaker 2>or how does crime pay or what like, maybe you're

0:54:46.840 --> 0:54:48.960
<v Speaker 2>looking at it the wrong way. But instead it's just

0:54:49.040 --> 0:54:55.399
<v Speaker 2>like he's just nobody. Yeah, okay, we get it broke.

0:54:55.840 --> 0:54:59.040
<v Speaker 2>Nobody paid attention to you until you were wearing the hood.

0:54:59.080 --> 0:54:59.960
<v Speaker 2>We've heard it before.

0:55:00.480 --> 0:55:02.680
<v Speaker 1>From that, it's just a setup for Perker to talk

0:55:02.719 --> 0:55:06.520
<v Speaker 1>about why his background a little bit and I agree

0:55:06.560 --> 0:55:09.920
<v Speaker 1>with you like to here. I kept on waiting for

0:55:10.040 --> 0:55:13.000
<v Speaker 1>Rere to be like, no, we're not doing it this way.

0:55:13.040 --> 0:55:15.319
<v Speaker 1>Here's how we're gonna do this, like and there gonna

0:55:15.360 --> 0:55:19.200
<v Speaker 1>be fucking I on, man, I can stop you for

0:55:19.200 --> 0:55:22.239
<v Speaker 1>for them to be some power struggle in terms of

0:55:22.320 --> 0:55:24.640
<v Speaker 1>like how they're gonna do these heists. Like after I

0:55:24.680 --> 0:55:26.719
<v Speaker 1>saw the first one, it was so violent, Like we

0:55:26.760 --> 0:55:28.560
<v Speaker 1>can do it this way and make it less violent,

0:55:28.920 --> 0:55:29.719
<v Speaker 1>and ince.

0:55:29.520 --> 0:55:32.320
<v Speaker 2>Is my genius scheme on how we neba huh anyone.

0:55:32.440 --> 0:55:34.759
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and then she just gets kind of talked into

0:55:34.880 --> 0:55:40.080
<v Speaker 1>doing it again. And it's weird to me that said,

0:55:40.440 --> 0:55:44.239
<v Speaker 1>uh really then is like how does the hood work?

0:55:44.320 --> 0:55:46.560
<v Speaker 1>Like what's going on that he just basically says, Hey,

0:55:46.560 --> 0:55:48.880
<v Speaker 1>it's magic. She's like that just means you don't know

0:55:48.880 --> 0:55:51.520
<v Speaker 1>how it works. It's like, okay, so what you're making

0:55:51.520 --> 0:55:53.080
<v Speaker 1>money out making money and that's all.

0:55:53.000 --> 0:55:55.400
<v Speaker 2>We really need. Also, right, can I have this question

0:55:55.719 --> 0:55:59.480
<v Speaker 2>for the hood? I get it. I get that it's

0:55:59.680 --> 0:56:02.840
<v Speaker 2>like cool motif for him to be like it's magic,

0:56:03.080 --> 0:56:05.800
<v Speaker 2>But if it's really magic, he needs to stop telling

0:56:05.840 --> 0:56:09.319
<v Speaker 2>people that. I know, like, he needs to stop saying oh,

0:56:09.320 --> 0:56:12.040
<v Speaker 2>it's magic, because I'm like, guys, magic is very brah

0:56:12.280 --> 0:56:13.759
<v Speaker 2>in this world, and I feel like you're putting a

0:56:13.760 --> 0:56:18.160
<v Speaker 2>talk on your back. Okay, so she said, so, then, uh,

0:56:19.200 --> 0:56:19.480
<v Speaker 2>I know.

0:56:19.719 --> 0:56:23.360
<v Speaker 1>Later Joe shows up at her house AT's house and

0:56:23.400 --> 0:56:24.759
<v Speaker 1>Mom is like, who the fuck is this guy?

0:56:25.680 --> 0:56:28.880
<v Speaker 2>And was like, oh, we know each other from work.

0:56:28.760 --> 0:56:32.200
<v Speaker 1>And and and my secret job.

0:56:32.600 --> 0:56:32.839
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:56:33.080 --> 0:56:35.680
<v Speaker 1>It's very weird to me that, Like Mom has like

0:56:36.560 --> 0:56:38.719
<v Speaker 1>many more questions about Joe than she has about the

0:56:38.800 --> 0:56:43.960
<v Speaker 1>Natalie Resurrection air that said, Joe is like ever since

0:56:44.320 --> 0:56:47.200
<v Speaker 1>re remade him hold that piece of equipment, He's like

0:56:47.320 --> 0:56:51.400
<v Speaker 1>bursting with ideas about like tech applications and stuff he

0:56:51.400 --> 0:56:53.480
<v Speaker 1>can do. Stuff he stores in his wall and he

0:56:53.520 --> 0:56:56.279
<v Speaker 1>gives her like all these blueprints and it's like, well,

0:56:56.280 --> 0:56:58.400
<v Speaker 1>now I'm gonna rat you out either you help me

0:56:58.440 --> 0:57:00.680
<v Speaker 1>with these blueprints and give me your thoughts on them,

0:57:00.760 --> 0:57:03.000
<v Speaker 1>or I watch you out to your mom and then he.

0:57:03.040 --> 0:57:03.920
<v Speaker 2>Drops off the difference.

0:57:04.239 --> 0:57:07.719
<v Speaker 1>Really wants to optimize the suit, but Natalie takes over

0:57:07.800 --> 0:57:10.080
<v Speaker 1>the suit for a second and starts arguing with her again.

0:57:10.800 --> 0:57:14.319
<v Speaker 1>Natalie wants Natalie just wants really to hang out with her,

0:57:14.400 --> 0:57:16.320
<v Speaker 1>which really reluctantly.

0:57:15.840 --> 0:57:22.400
<v Speaker 2>Agrees to do. Oh and that's bread the suit. Epically,

0:57:23.200 --> 0:57:26.600
<v Speaker 2>this is breaking my heart. This kind of like inter

0:57:26.920 --> 0:57:32.880
<v Speaker 2>change between the idea of like this transactional relationship between them,

0:57:33.000 --> 0:57:36.200
<v Speaker 2>where like it has to be like y'all hang out

0:57:36.240 --> 0:57:39.400
<v Speaker 2>with you, but if you are grading my suit, yeah,

0:57:39.440 --> 0:57:41.880
<v Speaker 2>but I'm like, but if she is all the memories

0:57:41.920 --> 0:57:44.760
<v Speaker 2>of your friend, like, how is she experiencing this? I

0:57:44.800 --> 0:57:47.400
<v Speaker 2>don't know. Yeah, I think the Natalie stuff has really

0:57:47.400 --> 0:57:49.480
<v Speaker 2>got me hung up on a lot of like ethical

0:57:49.520 --> 0:57:51.959
<v Speaker 2>and emotional questions that I don't know if the show

0:57:52.040 --> 0:57:54.160
<v Speaker 2>was planning on. I completely agree with you.

0:57:55.240 --> 0:58:00.000
<v Speaker 1>So they hang out by the lake and then Joe

0:58:00.160 --> 0:58:03.480
<v Speaker 1>texts again this is like these scenes are happening way

0:58:03.520 --> 0:58:06.040
<v Speaker 1>too fast, where the pacing is just like this could

0:58:06.120 --> 0:58:08.120
<v Speaker 1>be an interesting scene if you let it breathe, But

0:58:08.960 --> 0:58:12.360
<v Speaker 1>we don't have time. So Joe is like, can you

0:58:12.400 --> 0:58:18.000
<v Speaker 1>come over early? And uh, you know, really briefly is

0:58:18.080 --> 0:58:20.640
<v Speaker 1>kind of like wondering, like about like Natalie, why do

0:58:20.680 --> 0:58:23.280
<v Speaker 1>you have the memories of Natalie?

0:58:23.640 --> 0:58:25.520
<v Speaker 2>And uh, but.

0:58:25.520 --> 0:58:27.960
<v Speaker 1>They don't really explore it again and she has to

0:58:28.360 --> 0:58:29.280
<v Speaker 1>has to go to Joe's.

0:58:29.600 --> 0:58:32.440
<v Speaker 2>Also, I'm pretty sure that when Joe shows up and

0:58:32.480 --> 0:58:34.160
<v Speaker 2>she's like, how did you find me, He's like, oh,

0:58:34.200 --> 0:58:37.080
<v Speaker 2>I just like googled your address and I'm like, remy,

0:58:37.440 --> 0:58:39.880
<v Speaker 2>take an hour and stop that because you need to

0:58:40.360 --> 0:58:43.560
<v Speaker 2>get that shit wiped off the internet. There are services

0:58:43.600 --> 0:58:47.440
<v Speaker 2>you can pay, you can get Shakeula Gorgeous hack a

0:58:47.560 --> 0:58:50.360
<v Speaker 2>slug to help you. But like, this man should not

0:58:50.400 --> 0:58:53.240
<v Speaker 2>just be able to find your mom's address on the Internet.

0:58:53.320 --> 0:58:56.080
<v Speaker 2>That's not gonna bode well for you in your Iron

0:58:56.120 --> 0:58:58.160
<v Speaker 2>Man era that you were going for.

0:58:58.560 --> 0:59:00.800
<v Speaker 1>So Natalie and re Re goo to the garage to

0:59:00.840 --> 0:59:04.600
<v Speaker 1>see the garage they're talking about like the work she's

0:59:04.600 --> 0:59:06.400
<v Speaker 1>doing for Parker, and Ree says, I plan to do

0:59:06.400 --> 0:59:09.400
<v Speaker 1>a couple more jobs and then I'm out again. Just

0:59:09.400 --> 0:59:12.160
<v Speaker 1>give me a hard number, like what is the dollar

0:59:12.200 --> 0:59:14.920
<v Speaker 1>a month? Couple five?

0:59:15.160 --> 0:59:18.960
<v Speaker 2>The garage? Just on a just on like a continuity

0:59:19.600 --> 0:59:21.479
<v Speaker 2>thing here, and this is what happened when you watch

0:59:21.680 --> 0:59:24.800
<v Speaker 2>these shows like more than once and you start to

0:59:24.800 --> 0:59:27.480
<v Speaker 2>know that she has a go at her mom and

0:59:27.520 --> 0:59:30.840
<v Speaker 2>says like, oh, you haven't been keeping the Gary's garage

0:59:31.040 --> 0:59:33.600
<v Speaker 2>up to scratch, Like it's looking fucked up. It looks

0:59:33.920 --> 0:59:36.040
<v Speaker 2>it looks great, it looks really great. It could have

0:59:36.120 --> 0:59:40.080
<v Speaker 2>always been her you know shop, which obviously is inevitably

0:59:40.160 --> 0:59:42.680
<v Speaker 2>gonna turn back into it. It's looking fine.

0:59:42.880 --> 0:59:47.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Okay, So they're in the garage, they're talking about stuff.

0:59:47.480 --> 0:59:51.120
<v Speaker 1>Really has a flashback to the night that her dad

0:59:51.160 --> 0:59:52.120
<v Speaker 1>and Natalie were killed.

0:59:52.720 --> 0:59:53.600
<v Speaker 2>It was a drive by.

0:59:55.120 --> 0:59:58.360
<v Speaker 1>Natalie talks re redowned from her panic attack, which is

0:59:58.480 --> 1:00:00.960
<v Speaker 1>just like her dad used to do. Now, I was like, well,

1:00:00.960 --> 1:00:02.600
<v Speaker 1>how do you know how to do that? Like only

1:00:02.640 --> 1:00:05.520
<v Speaker 1>my dad could do that? Again, like this lack of

1:00:05.600 --> 1:00:07.560
<v Speaker 1>curiosity about like how do you have all these like

1:00:08.080 --> 1:00:10.000
<v Speaker 1>where does all this stuff come from? Like she should

1:00:10.000 --> 1:00:11.240
<v Speaker 1>be trying to figure this out.

1:00:11.680 --> 1:00:15.960
<v Speaker 2>Okay, you know, I will say we you might be

1:00:15.960 --> 1:00:19.280
<v Speaker 2>thinking like do you need two people to have been

1:00:19.320 --> 1:00:22.960
<v Speaker 2>fridged for this story? That's the part that's my other

1:00:23.040 --> 1:00:25.360
<v Speaker 2>thing is like that question when I'm gonna tell you.

1:00:26.000 --> 1:00:28.520
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna tell you something, guys. Yeah, if you had

1:00:28.560 --> 1:00:32.000
<v Speaker 2>read if you read the original Williams Commis, you may

1:00:32.000 --> 1:00:36.640
<v Speaker 2>have forgotten about this. But they actually uh fridged another

1:00:36.800 --> 1:00:40.600
<v Speaker 2>person in her life in the original comics, Demetrius, her father,

1:00:41.160 --> 1:00:45.400
<v Speaker 2>who gets killed in a gas station robbery gone wrong

1:00:45.440 --> 1:00:48.320
<v Speaker 2>when she's five, and then she goes lives with her

1:00:48.320 --> 1:00:52.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna stepdad Gary, and then Gary gets killed with Natalie.

1:00:52.080 --> 1:00:54.600
<v Speaker 2>So I'm like, please, guys, maybe like a little bit

1:00:55.000 --> 1:00:58.920
<v Speaker 2>less of this fridging. Now, look are they gonna If

1:00:58.960 --> 1:01:01.040
<v Speaker 2>they're gonna spend the time I'm in this show to

1:01:01.160 --> 1:01:05.560
<v Speaker 2>explore the notion of gun violence and how it impacts

1:01:05.600 --> 1:01:08.680
<v Speaker 2>young people, then I'm very interested, and I'm glad that

1:01:08.680 --> 1:01:10.680
<v Speaker 2>they cut the Demetrius part as far as we know,

1:01:10.920 --> 1:01:14.160
<v Speaker 2>but I don't think the show has the scope or

1:01:14.240 --> 1:01:18.240
<v Speaker 2>time to deal with this. And as she has this

1:01:18.320 --> 1:01:23.880
<v Speaker 2>panic attack, I feel like there's a great place there

1:01:23.920 --> 1:01:28.080
<v Speaker 2>where maybe you know, some her interacting with Natalie or

1:01:28.160 --> 1:01:30.640
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, But instead she's got to go home

1:01:30.640 --> 1:01:32.760
<v Speaker 2>and find out that the cops are there because there's

1:01:32.800 --> 1:01:38.120
<v Speaker 2>another plotline that is about to begin. Yeah, So you

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<v Speaker 2>make a good point.

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<v Speaker 1>Which is like, I like the exploration emotionally of the

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<v Speaker 1>impact of this stuff. But it's also weird to me

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<v Speaker 1>that like Rerie kind of never says I'm having these

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<v Speaker 1>feelings because of this, when everything else in the show

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<v Speaker 1>is like it's very explained, implicitly, almost over explained.

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<v Speaker 2>That's so really great point, also weird. I would love

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<v Speaker 2>for her to have this conversation, and maybe this's going

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<v Speaker 2>to happen in the next three episodes, but I would

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<v Speaker 2>love for her to have this conversation with Xavia or

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<v Speaker 2>with her mom, with a human being who is also

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<v Speaker 2>impacted by this, instead of it being channeled through the

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<v Speaker 2>Nathalie AI. So it's yeah, but guess what. The cops

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<v Speaker 2>away after her, and now we know why she got

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<v Speaker 2>to call Stewart aka Rampage.

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<v Speaker 1>So she she u was the last person to call

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<v Speaker 1>Rampage and Rampage is now dead, and so they cops

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<v Speaker 1>want to talk to her about, like, what do you

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<v Speaker 1>know about the death of Rampage. Re redecides that, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I need to I believe the gang is involved in

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<v Speaker 1>the death of Rampage, and also I want to know

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<v Speaker 1>what's going on with the Hood and the Magic powers

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<v Speaker 1>potentially magic powers quote air quotes magic. So I need

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<v Speaker 1>to steal a piece of the hood to analyze it

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<v Speaker 1>to figure out if he's involved and figure out what

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<v Speaker 1>we're up against. So the perfect time to grab a

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<v Speaker 1>sample is during this heirloom heist, right, But.

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<v Speaker 2>Why not just reach out to clown who already picked

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<v Speaker 2>the lock and be like, hey, you want to get

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<v Speaker 2>back on the fact that Joe fucking smashed your interest? Interesting? Sorry?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and then we could have this power struggle again

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<v Speaker 1>within the gang and give her some agency. But no,

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<v Speaker 1>she needs to kind of get talked into doing this

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<v Speaker 1>Binatalie again, but she won't be able to bring the suit.

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<v Speaker 1>But Joe brought a schematic for a type of like

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<v Speaker 1>biomesh that is like it looks like a almost like

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<v Speaker 1>a bandage that you wear on your arm there.

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<v Speaker 2>Like a face skin. Yeah, yeah, it's like Stark nanotech.

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<v Speaker 2>So then and I guess it can make a laser.

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<v Speaker 2>And it can make a laser, don't worry. We go

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<v Speaker 2>to the base where.

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<v Speaker 1>Jonathan is doing watching Parker do hot yoga.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, can I just say something. I get

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<v Speaker 2>that he's meant to be his cousin, but these two

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<v Speaker 2>are playing this shits so gay for each other. I'm sorry, guys.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, I know I do this with every show.

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<v Speaker 2>I know he is meant to be his cousin, but like,

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<v Speaker 2>why is Nathan just watching him do hot yoga? Watch

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<v Speaker 2>watching him shirtless do hot yoga?

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<v Speaker 1>Wait? Wait, doing his his back tattoo, and then as

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<v Speaker 1>he's doing the tattoo, being like, I'm so sorry.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm saying there is a chemistry here. And then also

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<v Speaker 2>Jonathan finally saying something sensible, where he's like, guys, there's

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<v Speaker 2>no there's actually no leverage against this billionab got leverage

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<v Speaker 2>against all the rest of them, but no leverage against him,

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<v Speaker 2>And and park is like, don't worry about it, babe.

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<v Speaker 2>Just look at my rippling muscles and imagine when I'll

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<v Speaker 2>be wearing the sexy magic hood again. Like what do

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<v Speaker 2>you mean, no, don't do it? Cancel the schemes. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>Jonathan's like, let's cancel the heist. Parker's like, no.

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<v Speaker 1>Rear goes to see Joe at his house. Joe has

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<v Speaker 1>a grizzly the way suh Rey leave basketball. You know what, really,

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<v Speaker 1>Revery and Nally.

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<v Speaker 2>And Joe and his nasty ass, can you know what

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<v Speaker 2>he's motherfuckers. They are made preach on the two insane people.

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<v Speaker 1>Honestly, cut does not even describe it. He's got a

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<v Speaker 1>grizzly wound that is about in which he's like put

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<v Speaker 1>like in a hole and he's like put stuff under

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<v Speaker 1>the skin into his forearm and it's really gross, and

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<v Speaker 1>Joe's like, can you help me with this? So Rear

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<v Speaker 1>then tells Joe that she's got some ideas for upgrades

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<v Speaker 1>for his biomesh idea. But Joe is like really concerned that, like, listen,

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<v Speaker 1>if you use any of my tech for whatever it

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<v Speaker 1>is you're doing, if it's criminal, especially, all that stuff

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<v Speaker 1>is easily traced to me because of whatever however, I

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<v Speaker 1>so you have to promise me that you're it. Whatever

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<v Speaker 1>you do, it can't get traced back to me. She's

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<v Speaker 1>like okay, and then Rear accidentally spills like a cereal

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<v Speaker 1>bag's like.

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<v Speaker 2>A fucking gallons. It just full of ashes that she's

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<v Speaker 2>fucking around with and it just on the outside of

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<v Speaker 2>the back and I have to say I do like

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<v Speaker 2>it just says Obadiah S. So if you didn't know

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<v Speaker 2>Joe is Zeke Stain.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, Zeke Stain and that is you know, Obadiah Stain

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<v Speaker 1>in the bag.

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<v Speaker 2>And again these two have like really great chemistry. I

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<v Speaker 2>really like this scene is so funny together.

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<v Speaker 1>This scene is cuckoo, bananas, nonsensical, but like they're so

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<v Speaker 1>fun in it together it works. Yeah, so uh is like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>my dad taught me how to dress wounds like this

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<v Speaker 1>crazy fucking.

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<v Speaker 2>Jagged, fucking open bleeding which he put he put like

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<v Speaker 2>a fucking neuralink in Like this man is insane, he's

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<v Speaker 2>not well his dad, But I do again, this is

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<v Speaker 2>a thing about pacing, right. I get that they wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to reveal this. I get it, and I love the reveal.

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<v Speaker 2>It's funny, but also, like you only have six episodes,

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<v Speaker 2>there's something very interesting about the perceived mantle holder of

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<v Speaker 2>the Iron Man legacy in rearly teaming up with the

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<v Speaker 2>perceived like troubled legacy holder of a Badiah Stain. That's

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<v Speaker 2>so interesting that maybe it didn't need to be a

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<v Speaker 2>secret reveal, you know, maybe there's something in that about

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<v Speaker 2>how they relate to their father figures that we've got

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<v Speaker 2>more time with completely. I think it's so interesting and

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<v Speaker 2>I hope we do get more of it. In the

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<v Speaker 2>next part. But yeah, uh, do not. First of all, Zeke,

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<v Speaker 2>do not let this gal use it. She's obviously gonna

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<v Speaker 2>drop it, really don't. Just like he's so up this

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<v Speaker 2>man's arm, like it's looking bad.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, as soon as he said that, I'm like one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred percent she is gonna drop this biometer.

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<v Speaker 2>Drop that shares.

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<v Speaker 1>So the gang needs to disarm and get into Heirloom.

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<v Speaker 1>They all, you know, put away their weapons in order

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<v Speaker 1>to break in, except for re Rea, of course, who's

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to stay in her suit and do like an Overwatch,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's Natalie piloting the suit and re Re secretly

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<v Speaker 1>swims in with her biomesh patch through a set of pipes.

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<v Speaker 1>Parker goes to confront the Heirloom CEO in his like

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<v Speaker 1>greenhouse office, which actually looks pretty cool. Really is like

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<v Speaker 1>under a grate in the floor.

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<v Speaker 2>I was stressed watching this man. I'm like, you meant

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<v Speaker 2>to be a genius impossible, So yes, yes, it's mission

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<v Speaker 2>impossible levels of stressing.

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<v Speaker 1>So like, Reary is using the laser in her biomesh

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<v Speaker 1>to cut a little piece of the hood off, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's tough because it's magic and it's leather.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's also some kind of like Hubrin, there's some

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<v Speaker 2>kind of kind of gaming technique.

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<v Speaker 1>Because remember the security system will they couldn't get possible,

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<v Speaker 1>will sense any weapons or technology or or metal that

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't recognize and trigger, so she has to stay

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<v Speaker 1>below this threshold.

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<v Speaker 2>While you very gamified. It's very funny. It's like if

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<v Speaker 2>you've ever tried to, like, you know, play a game

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<v Speaker 2>where you have to get the perfect amount to hit

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<v Speaker 2>in the right direction.

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<v Speaker 1>Their guy is like, I'm not gonna be extorted, fuck you.

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<v Speaker 1>And meanwhile the gang is in like another greenhouse and

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<v Speaker 1>their clown's just like, I'm bunding this, burn this shit down.

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<v Speaker 1>So then clown starts a fire in the in the

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<v Speaker 1>green room and she's like in the greenhouse and she's

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<v Speaker 1>like burning all the shit because the CEO was refusing

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<v Speaker 1>to sign a contract. And Parker's like, well, what if

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<v Speaker 1>we destroy your whole company?

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<v Speaker 2>Right seewhile I thought it was interesting, Yeah, why, Like

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<v Speaker 2>he literally like just offers them a check. He's like,

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<v Speaker 2>I know what you're doing. Just take this fucking chet

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<v Speaker 2>and just leave. I would have taken it. In that case, Parker,

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<v Speaker 2>he has the he's got you like just take the check. No,

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<v Speaker 2>they need the money. They need the no you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the no show jobs. Like sure, So the building is

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<v Speaker 2>locked down. That's all that mattens.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, here's my question. So the late rereason laser gets

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<v Speaker 1>too hot and the alarm system senses that there's weaponry

1:10:14.640 --> 1:10:18.560
<v Speaker 1>and stuff going on. Why didn't clowns fire trigger.

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<v Speaker 2>The I know, I couldn't. I couldn't walk that out

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<v Speaker 2>whether it was like because it was a huge fire.

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<v Speaker 2>But also it does get shut down, like I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how this place works. I didn't even

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<v Speaker 2>know what this man's business is. Honestly, they should have

1:10:34.600 --> 1:10:35.280
<v Speaker 2>left him alone.

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<v Speaker 1>So the building's now locked down, and it's like filling

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<v Speaker 1>with more gas more like carbon DIACs are gas to

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<v Speaker 1>make everybody go to see Parker is hearing voices that

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<v Speaker 1>they are telling him to do the ceo. The CEO

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<v Speaker 1>pulls a pistol and now there's a fight, which is

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<v Speaker 1>kind of cool. Hood is disappearing and reappearing, and then

1:10:55.360 --> 1:10:59.920
<v Speaker 1>he invisible kills the CEO as re rewatches. She does

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<v Speaker 1>like get to cut all the way through the hood,

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<v Speaker 1>like she cuts like eighty percent. She yeah, and before

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<v Speaker 1>he disappears and so she can't get the rest of it. Meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of the gang is trapped in the labs,

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<v Speaker 1>only Jonathan and the Ironheart armorycking Jonathan.

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<v Speaker 2>Jonathan fucking Jonathan.

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<v Speaker 1>So Jonathan Hood is now taking out cars left and right,

1:11:22.400 --> 1:11:25.439
<v Speaker 1>re re orders Natalie. She's like, rescue the rest of

1:11:25.479 --> 1:11:27.519
<v Speaker 1>the crew, don't worry about me. I can get out

1:11:27.520 --> 1:11:30.320
<v Speaker 1>on my own. Natalie's like no, but then it is convinced.

1:11:31.040 --> 1:11:36.040
<v Speaker 1>So Rey is escaping through the labs. She runs into

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<v Speaker 1>Jonathan and Jonathan and Jonathan is like, why aren't you

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<v Speaker 1>in your suit? I thought you were in your suit

1:11:44.320 --> 1:11:46.080
<v Speaker 1>up there, And also like, what is that in your hand?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that a piece of the hood? The leather piece

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<v Speaker 1>of the hood.

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<v Speaker 2>She accuses him of killing Rampage and they fight and

1:11:54.000 --> 1:11:56.360
<v Speaker 2>he's like, yeah, I did kill him. Yeah he was

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<v Speaker 2>that even a secret? Yeah what are you talking about?

1:12:00.040 --> 1:12:02.759
<v Speaker 2>Course I can kill the guys. This whole show.

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<v Speaker 1>Re re loses her biomesh patch, she loses the I

1:12:06.520 --> 1:12:08.759
<v Speaker 1>think loses the piece of the hood leather doesn't.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well I don't. I don't know about that. She did,

1:12:11.560 --> 1:12:14.559
<v Speaker 2>hilariously just randomly pick it up off the side maybe

1:12:14.560 --> 1:12:16.880
<v Speaker 2>she doesn't. I'm invisible, so maybe she does have it.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm going to say something, Uh, describe what you

1:12:20.000 --> 1:12:22.720
<v Speaker 2>think happened next, because I think I think it's a

1:12:22.800 --> 1:12:24.919
<v Speaker 2>more brutal read than you realize.

1:12:25.000 --> 1:12:30.920
<v Speaker 1>Well, I think what happens is Okay, so the HQ

1:12:31.160 --> 1:12:36.080
<v Speaker 1>is filling with gas that's making everybody suffocate. Natalie comes in,

1:12:36.200 --> 1:12:39.799
<v Speaker 1>puts rear the armor, and she flies off, leaving Jonathan

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<v Speaker 1>to die, to.

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<v Speaker 2>Die, Yes, no, no, I think you're right. I think

1:12:43.360 --> 1:12:47.200
<v Speaker 2>you're right. She kills Jonathan like they could have said.

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<v Speaker 2>He puts his hand out and he's like help man. Yeah,

1:12:50.040 --> 1:12:52.559
<v Speaker 2>but they're like you know about you know that.

1:12:52.720 --> 1:12:56.759
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, you guys are also murdering people.

1:12:57.000 --> 1:12:58.240
<v Speaker 2>But also.

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<v Speaker 1>I think this was I think, yeah, this was a weird.

1:13:03.920 --> 1:13:06.240
<v Speaker 1>This is another weird one. It would have been cool

1:13:06.240 --> 1:13:09.360
<v Speaker 1>if like she's like, no, save Jonathan, Natalie, and Natalie

1:13:09.479 --> 1:13:11.760
<v Speaker 1>is like no.

1:13:10.400 --> 1:13:13.439
<v Speaker 2>No, yeah, yea yeah, yeah yeah yeah. Also, oh, Natalie.

1:13:13.520 --> 1:13:15.960
<v Speaker 2>If Natalie has said to her like, well remember how

1:13:15.960 --> 1:13:18.120
<v Speaker 2>he like smashed clown's head against the thing and he

1:13:18.240 --> 1:13:20.880
<v Speaker 2>killed rampage, Like does he need to be saved? But

1:13:20.960 --> 1:13:23.559
<v Speaker 2>instead Reby just makes that choice. She just you know what,

1:13:23.680 --> 1:13:26.280
<v Speaker 2>I'm not gonna miss Jonathan. I don't think she made

1:13:26.280 --> 1:13:29.000
<v Speaker 2>a terrible choice. This was but you know, I will say, well,

1:13:29.040 --> 1:13:32.280
<v Speaker 2>this is really so Jonathan said not to go.

1:13:32.479 --> 1:13:34.519
<v Speaker 1>It's on Parker, and I agree with you. I'm not

1:13:34.520 --> 1:13:37.000
<v Speaker 1>gonna miss Jonathan. I think Jonathan's a bad guy. I

1:13:37.080 --> 1:13:40.439
<v Speaker 1>do find it weird that the prime here's the issue.

1:13:40.439 --> 1:13:42.879
<v Speaker 1>The primary reason that Rory kills this guy is because

1:13:42.960 --> 1:13:45.519
<v Speaker 1>she doesn't want him rat turn out.

1:13:45.680 --> 1:13:49.759
<v Speaker 2>Yes, so that up with all the rime, all the ratting,

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<v Speaker 2>too much ratting.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So back home, she realizes she lost the biomesh

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<v Speaker 1>which will get trace back to Joe, and she has

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<v Speaker 1>another panic attack bark. Parker's back at the HQ, and

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<v Speaker 1>he's like furious that this heist has gone sideways and

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<v Speaker 1>that Jonathan is dead. He's screaming and whoever gave him

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<v Speaker 1>his magic? I trusted you and it's gone badly and

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<v Speaker 1>what have you done?

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<v Speaker 2>And he sees a vision, like a magic vy brutal, scary.

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<v Speaker 1>Brutal vision of Jonathan's suffering, suffocating to deathn't like reaching

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<v Speaker 1>out for who we know is like Natalie and Reary

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<v Speaker 1>to help him and Parker saying, why are you showing

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<v Speaker 1>me this? And then all of a sudden, a demonic,

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<v Speaker 1>very evil looking figure appears, and this is where I'm

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<v Speaker 1>like this, it's fucking.

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<v Speaker 2>Naturally, everyone's gonna be so sick of it after I'm like, guys,

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<v Speaker 2>it's too late. I'm sorry to tell you that, but

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<v Speaker 2>you know what, he's here. We've been talking about it

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<v Speaker 2>for five years, as the world has changed unbelievably. Am

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<v Speaker 2>I still talking about it? Yeah? I also thought, I

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<v Speaker 2>really I did like the visual like fust the shadowy

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<v Speaker 2>figure kind of looks like re read because in the

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<v Speaker 2>suit to kind of tell Parker like she killed him.

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<v Speaker 2>And then you get yeah, And I mean, guys, you

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<v Speaker 2>saw the little m outlined in red. You guys assumed.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's see. We'll be talking about it when the next

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<v Speaker 2>three episodes drop. But it's looking high odds high odds

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<v Speaker 2>high odds that Mephisto is finally round, because.

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<v Speaker 1>I think if you don't show him now, people are

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be like, don't ever do this again.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't do it again. It's been too many times, too

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<v Speaker 2>many teasers, too many theories, of which I was many

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<v Speaker 2>to blame for.

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry, guys, but like, but yes it is. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's time.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm ready. And that's the first three episodes of iron Heart.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what. I'm just so glad we did like

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<v Speaker 2>a big deep dive into this, so you gotta do it.

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<v Speaker 2>We gotta recap it, gotta talk about it, got to

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<v Speaker 2>talk about how it works, how it doesn't work. And

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<v Speaker 2>I'm excited to see the next three episodes. And I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>you see how slacked with people.

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<v Speaker 1>Mephisto will I will I. We assume it's Mephisto, and

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<v Speaker 1>I will be there to find out, like what's going

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<v Speaker 1>on with that? Like, let's find out, Yeah, and what's

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<v Speaker 1>going on with that guy?

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<v Speaker 2>Man? Well, that's it for this episode.

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<v Speaker 1>Tomorrow and exhibition, we're checking in on some of the

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<v Speaker 1>movies we haven't had a chance to talk about so

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<v Speaker 1>far this year, this spring, this summer, including Final Destination, Bloodlines,

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<v Speaker 1>and Wes Anderson's latest infotation scheme. That's it for this episode.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks for listening. Bye.

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<v Speaker 1>X ray Vision is hosted by Jason Concepcion and Rosie

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<v Speaker 1>Night and is a production of iHeart Podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Our executive producers are Joel Menique and Aaron Kaufman. Our

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<v Speaker 2>supervising producer is Abu safar. Our producers are Common, Laurent

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<v Speaker 1>Our theme song is by Brian Vasquez, with alternate theme

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<v Speaker 2>Special thanks to Saul Rubin, Chris Lord, Kenny Goodman and

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