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Speaker 1: Warning, today's episode contained spoilers for the first three episodes

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Speaker 1: of Ironheart on Disney Plus. Oh it was just concepts

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Speaker 1: and I'm Rosey Night and welcome back to Answering Vision,

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Speaker 1: the podcast.

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Speaker 2: We dived into your favorite shows, movies, comic, hip, pop culture.

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Speaker 1: Coming to you from our podcast, where we're bring three

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Speaker 1: episodes a week every Tuesday and Thursday, and another day

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Speaker 1: and Friday, where.

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Speaker 2: There's another day in there. It might be Wednesday, it

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Speaker 2: might be Friday. Why that's right. End, don't forget about

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Speaker 2: news Plus. In today's episode, we're talking about Iron Hawk.

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Speaker 2: It's been a long time coming, baby, and it's finally here.

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Speaker 2: The first three episodes of Iron Hawk have arrived. They

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Speaker 2: are longer than we expected, each one around four eight

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Speaker 2: to fifty minutes. They are very aesthetically in the world

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Speaker 2: of the MCU. Yes, but what do we think about them? Well,

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Speaker 2: guess what we're gonna recap. We're gonna tell you who's

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Speaker 2: in them, We're gonna tell you what we think is

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Speaker 2: gonna happen. We're gonna tell you how we feel about it.

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Speaker 2: So let's get into it.

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Speaker 1: Okay, iron Heart Episode one, let's get this out of

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Speaker 1: the way. I want to get this, just get.

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Speaker 2: It out of the way. Let's just shut it out.

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Speaker 1: We're bumped a little bit, a little bit, a little bit,

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Speaker 2: Little bit bummed.

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Speaker 1: We wish Iron Heart was better, and there's various problems

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Speaker 1: that we're gonna talk about them. But let's first recap

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Speaker 1: this show. So we open on a selfie video uh

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Speaker 1: the uh that Reary Williams has recorded of her hanging

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Speaker 2: I also need to say, yes, I did immediately have

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Speaker 2: I think it looks very un emcu and very kind

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Speaker 1: We open up at M I T with a voiceover.

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Speaker 1: We're kind of watching realgoing about her day. She's talking

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Speaker 2: She's back, living's living up. She's like it's going great.

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Speaker 1: She's back from Wakanda after the events of Wakanda forever.

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Speaker 1: But she needs a re sources really, you know, like

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Speaker 1: she needs like real, real money to continue her work

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Speaker 1: at a Tony Stark level. Of course, she is a

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Speaker 1: and so she's been hustling. And part of the hustling

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Speaker 1: has been she's been like trading her independently produced technology,

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Speaker 1: And one of the things she talks about wanting to

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Speaker 1: But all in all, it's not going great and really

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Speaker 1: needs to extend that Tony Stark grant so she can

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Speaker 2: May he rest in peace. It's not like he doesn't

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Speaker 1: Right, But now there's like a board that has to

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Speaker 1: She's like, can I just can I just have the

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Speaker 2: So she gets yeah, because we found out that you've

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Speaker 1: And their leader is park Robbins aka the Hood, and

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Speaker 1: we see this heist kind of go sideways because Rampage

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Speaker 2: Right away, yeah, right away. And I will say I

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Speaker 1: Yeah, she re rearives home and at the front door

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Speaker 1: And meanwhile, as this is happening, one of Parker's gang

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Speaker 1: This led me to ask whether like cassette tapes are back, Like,

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Speaker 2: I get a new one?

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00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:01,920
Speaker 1: But moreover in the E version of the story, re Rey,

439
00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:05,320
Speaker 1: who is a genius, is like, how did this happen?

440
00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:08,760
Speaker 2: I need to figure out, like what happened here? I

441
00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:09,560
Speaker 2: understand that she.

442
00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:16,800
Speaker 1: Needs to go to this heist job with Parker, but like, yeah,

443
00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:20,920
Speaker 1: like this is a job situation.

444
00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:24,000
Speaker 2: I'm curious enough about like why this happened and what

445
00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:24,479
Speaker 2: this is.

446
00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:29,280
Speaker 1: Anyway, she heads out and she finds out from Parker

447
00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:31,840
Speaker 1: as he's like doing the little spiel for the gang.

448
00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:36,840
Speaker 2: But what this is we are raiding this.

449
00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:40,720
Speaker 1: CEO who created this project called Tunnel, which is like

450
00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:45,640
Speaker 1: an under Chicago system of tunnels to alleviate traffics.

451
00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:47,639
Speaker 2: It's like high tech tunnels. Maybe you drive your car

452
00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:49,960
Speaker 2: down there. Also gets on a little platform in the

453
00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:54,360
Speaker 2: very coded because that's what the boring company was supposed

454
00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:56,560
Speaker 2: to do. So we get you can tell this show

455
00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:59,280
Speaker 2: has been in the works for a long time and

456
00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:02,600
Speaker 2: that is a that's definitely a storyline from about probably

457
00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:05,480
Speaker 2: four years ago, because Ela must never made that happen.

458
00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:09,560
Speaker 1: Guys, So they go. The Parker introduces the gang. We

459
00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:13,600
Speaker 1: meet Slug from Madapoor, who is like the hacker. We

460
00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:17,720
Speaker 1: meet extremely cool new addition to the black Pack cannon.

461
00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:20,560
Speaker 1: There is a big black Kaka cannon in Hollywood, big

462
00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:23,119
Speaker 1: fan of this edition. We meet Rob and Jerry, the

463
00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:26,159
Speaker 1: sibling cage fighters. We meet Clown, who is like the

464
00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:27,360
Speaker 1: explosives expert.

465
00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:30,480
Speaker 2: We meet Parker's cousin John, who is like then.

466
00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:33,440
Speaker 1: Doesn't do not then, Well, he's like the knife obsessive,

467
00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:36,840
Speaker 1: but he also does like all like I'll drive all whatever,

468
00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:39,720
Speaker 1: like he's like the jack of all trades and reread

469
00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:43,520
Speaker 1: obviously he's taken rampage of Spot. The job is to

470
00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:47,640
Speaker 1: disrupt and hijack the Sila Zarat, the CEO of Tunnel's

471
00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:52,400
Speaker 1: Tunnels project, which the reasoning being well, it's destroying communities

472
00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:56,879
Speaker 1: across Chicago, or has destroyed, and Sheila's doing this demo

473
00:25:57,080 --> 00:26:00,440
Speaker 1: and it's the perfect time to like hijacket, so arcite's

474
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:02,560
Speaker 1: we get in the suit. We're gonna need you in

475
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:05,200
Speaker 1: the suit tonight. She runs a diagnostic on the suit

476
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:08,200
Speaker 1: and it's not gonna be ready, and she's thinking, Okay,

477
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:10,199
Speaker 1: I need help with this, Like how do I I

478
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:13,520
Speaker 1: need help getting this suit up and running? Maybe Ramcage

479
00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:14,640
Speaker 1: can help.

480
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,440
Speaker 2: Sorry, I gotta tell you though, this was the first

481
00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:21,160
Speaker 2: thing that took me out that are you's good? He's

482
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:27,480
Speaker 2: he's not good exactly like you. Never He's just some

483
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:30,359
Speaker 2: goofy guy like he why would he be able to

484
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:33,439
Speaker 2: help you? Do you not have any other friends? Like? Please,

485
00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:35,480
Speaker 2: I know that you have another friend from m I

486
00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:38,879
Speaker 2: T cool cool, surey.

487
00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:42,560
Speaker 1: Full of like geniuses, like just go back to her

488
00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:46,480
Speaker 1: and like you need the course to please. So she

489
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:48,920
Speaker 1: ends up going to the dark web and looking at

490
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:52,119
Speaker 1: names of like dark web geniuses who like trade in

491
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:56,320
Speaker 1: high tech illicit technology, and she finds this guy named

492
00:26:56,359 --> 00:27:01,520
Speaker 1: Joe McGillicuddy. And meanwhile, now is like talking to her

493
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:02,960
Speaker 1: and like distracting her.

494
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:05,399
Speaker 2: And knows weight like has.

495
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:11,560
Speaker 1: Way too much of Natalie's full fledged memories and understanding

496
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:16,080
Speaker 1: about Natalie's life, like again, this AI is Natalie one

497
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:19,840
Speaker 1: hundred percent it's her, which how did this? Like?

498
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:22,080
Speaker 2: I agree with you, it feels like there must be

499
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 2: some sort of magic. I was feeling like this is

500
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:29,280
Speaker 2: either a hood situation or if the show is gonna

501
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:33,200
Speaker 2: deliver on what the internet is guessing with Mephisto and

502
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:35,919
Speaker 2: Mephisto situation. I agree now, I was feeling like a

503
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:42,560
Speaker 2: hood type magical, some manipulation because it's too well formed.

504
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:45,760
Speaker 1: How would you as how would your memories? How would

505
00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 1: her memories of a person create the person? Like wouldn't

506
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:54,280
Speaker 1: you need the one to one person that the actual

507
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:55,200
Speaker 1: person's memories?

508
00:27:55,240 --> 00:28:00,479
Speaker 2: Not like in the comics, it's the idea of like

509
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:03,359
Speaker 2: it's her perception of how Nashley would have grown up,

510
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:07,360
Speaker 2: whereas here it's basically full Natalie. She's arguing with her.

511
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 2: I don't think that going into this mission with that

512
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:15,959
Speaker 2: AI of your friend is a clever idea, A rea like,

513
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:19,440
Speaker 2: that's my biggest thing? Is I by the way that

514
00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:19,199
Speaker 2: get her?

515
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:22,080
Speaker 1: That would have been interesting if there was some serious

516
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:26,960
Speaker 1: dissonance between AI Natalie and real Natalie, like you look

517
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 1: like her, you talk like her, but there's you obviously

518
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:32,480
Speaker 1: aren't like. But instead, like I kept on waiting for

519
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:34,560
Speaker 1: that kind of like ominous note to sound and it

520
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:37,600
Speaker 1: kind of never does. Yeah, but yeah, that's and then

521
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:39,640
Speaker 1: the other thing is, isn't this gonna be like super

522
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:42,120
Speaker 1: distracting and a like life or death mission.

523
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:46,320
Speaker 2: To that's you and also like your AI best friend

524
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 2: who's also dead. I feel like, again, this is something

525
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,960
Speaker 2: where I do feel like if Natalie hadn't had to

526
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,320
Speaker 2: have been revealed at the end of the first episode,

527
00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:57,800
Speaker 2: or she had been revealed at the end of the

528
00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:00,440
Speaker 2: first episode, but we had a couple of episodes, maybe

529
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:04,720
Speaker 2: a bottle episode to explore that relationship, and then you know,

530
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,239
Speaker 2: and they they don't even get into the you know,

531
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 2: the fun stuff that we kind of love with this,

532
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 2: which is just like Jarvis is an acronym, you know,

533
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:15,440
Speaker 2: you have this Natalie is in the comics is the

534
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 2: neuro autonomous technical Assistant and that intelligence and it's so

535
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 2: good and uh yeah, I just again, I think that

536
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 2: there needed to be a little more time. We talked

537
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 2: about this in pre pro and I think that Joelle

538
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 2: put it really well, which was kind of like tell

539
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:38,239
Speaker 2: a smaller story if you don't have the time, but

540
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:41,120
Speaker 2: we don't know this might have began meant to have

541
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:45,240
Speaker 2: nine twelve episodes and or style. So I, yeah, this

542
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:47,600
Speaker 2: is one of the first of Reari's decisions where I'm

543
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:49,560
Speaker 2: going to be like, babe, what you're doing. But also

544
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:51,840
Speaker 2: she's like twenty one, so I was also making a

545
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:53,720
Speaker 2: lot of bad choices back then. Yes, so I'm not

546
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 2: going to judge too hard.

547
00:29:56,480 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 1: Really like uploads Natalie out of the suit into her

548
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 1: laptop so she can run the suit without any distractions.

549
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 1: Then she leaves re re rents Landon's wagon to get

550
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 1: the suit out to Evanston.

551
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:13,320
Speaker 2: On the train. Joe seems like literally a regular Joe.

552
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:17,840
Speaker 2: It's Alden Earnreich of Solo fame. She's talking to him

553
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:18,480
Speaker 2: about stuff.

554
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:20,960
Speaker 1: She gets into his house where because she helps him

555
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 1: with his groceries, and Joe's She's like, so, what's up.

556
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:28,200
Speaker 1: I need a repulsor micro science y sounding thing, and

557
00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 1: just like what about She's like, and she's like, no,

558
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:36,080
Speaker 1: I need this science stuff or I'm gonna rat you

559
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:38,520
Speaker 1: out to the FBI. Here's where I'm like, okay, now,

560
00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:42,000
Speaker 1: this is a thing that fast of all. First of all,

561
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:45,440
Speaker 1: I don't know like comics read would not be like

562
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 1: I'm gonna rat to the FBI.

563
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:49,400
Speaker 2: I know that.

564
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 1: So here's another decision of rears where I'm like, did

565
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 1: you really just like threaten to rat this guy out

566
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 1: to the like you also you just met him like

567
00:30:58,400 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 1: he had killed you.

568
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:04,120
Speaker 2: I know you're in they please, you're in his fancy

569
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:04,960
Speaker 2: suburban house.

570
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 1: Well, Joe agrees, Okay, under penalty of being snitched out,

571
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:12,720
Speaker 1: I will drive you to my secret wear.

572
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 2: Not setting up a good relationship with this person who

573
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:18,520
Speaker 2: clearly isn't called Joe by the way, Like even from here,

574
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 2: I was like, Oh, I get it. I see who

575
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 2: he is. He loves iron Man makes.

576
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 1: Said I want to say this, everybody in this show

577
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 1: is doing a great job act.

578
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 2: They are acting their asses. I think I think this

579
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:33,680
Speaker 2: is a really and obviously like this in itself is

580
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:36,560
Speaker 2: kind of a problem, but ironically I think this is

581
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:39,560
Speaker 2: like a really great role for Elden Aaron Wright and

582
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:45,239
Speaker 2: shouldn't He's probably shouldn't be the standout, but he is

583
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:48,560
Speaker 2: one of the standouts. But yeah, it's it's also a

584
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 2: very interesting character, as we'll get into and I actually

585
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 2: find the relationship between him and re Re very very

586
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:58,120
Speaker 2: interesting because of who he is and who she is.

587
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,440
Speaker 2: And yeah, we'll get into it. But also, why is

588
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 2: Natalie texting real time be letting that AI text you, bro?

589
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:09,760
Speaker 2: We seen these men falling in love with chat GTP.

590
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 2: I mean in real life, do not let this guy text.

591
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 2: Do not let this AI text you, babe.

592
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 1: I mean, that's another issue. Not to get sidetracked, but

593
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:23,960
Speaker 1: I think all of this storyline kind of happening as

594
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 1: we are made aware of numerous stories and numerous publications.

595
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:31,640
Speaker 1: Required has written a lot about this about people who

596
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 1: are becoming either obsessed with their AI companions, their chat GPTs, whatever,

597
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:40,720
Speaker 1: or are having chat ebt as a story in the

598
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 1: Times about this recently amplify their existing mental health issues

599
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:49,120
Speaker 1: to a to a scary degree because they're just constantly

600
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:51,240
Speaker 1: with what you believe.

601
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 2: Yes, you live in a yes you do. You know, Like,

602
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 2: it's not That's the thing is, it's not actually AI.

603
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 2: It's a large language model, so it's basically just learning

604
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 2: constantly and then wants you to use it more to

605
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 2: learn more, so it affirms your beliefs. It's not And

606
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 2: I think, like do I think that if this show

607
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 2: was thirteen episodes long, maybe they would be an interesting

608
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:14,520
Speaker 2: inter interaction with that Maybe but do I think that

609
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:17,920
Speaker 2: we're gonna get to find out about like why, I

610
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 2: don't know. I don't feel like the nat I feel

611
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 2: like the Natalie stuff is getting out of hand very quickly,

612
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:24,720
Speaker 2: so too very quickly.

613
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 1: So on the drive, Natalie is texting reredoun stopped and

614
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:29,479
Speaker 1: Joe begins crying and he won't.

615
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 2: They're like, She's like, why are you crying?

616
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:34,760
Speaker 1: And he's like again he always looks like this is

617
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 1: like actually a fun scene.

618
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 2: And it's really good together.

619
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 1: They are quite good together. The chemistry is really great,

620
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 1: and it's very clear that Joe has like secrets. So meanwhile,

621
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 1: back at the house, in like talk about talk about

622
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 1: the Natalie stuff spinning out of control, Natalie escapes the

623
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 1: laptop into the Internet basically and gets into the.

624
00:33:56,880 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 2: Samy nineties like Internet horror as well many movies like Man.

625
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 2: She's in control of the blender. Guys, she's gonna kill

626
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:10,400
Speaker 2: you with the blend. She's in the wires.

627
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:15,360
Speaker 1: So she gets into the smart picture frame, you know

628
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:17,359
Speaker 1: the picture frames that my mom I got my mom

629
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 1: on for Christmas, and she liked them.

630
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 2: She loved the moms love those.

631
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 1: And she's running around of the picture frame AND's mom

632
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:30,359
Speaker 1: is at first like scared, and she's like, oh, like

633
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:34,399
Speaker 1: it's a ghost, but no, it's like Natalie's like, no,

634
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:34,920
Speaker 1: it's me.

635
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:36,440
Speaker 2: And here's what's going on.

636
00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:39,800
Speaker 1: And and then she's like immediately to your point about

637
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:43,360
Speaker 1: like pacing and emotional arcs and like to being too compressed.

638
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:46,000
Speaker 1: She just immediately is like, Okay, this is not weird

639
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:46,319
Speaker 1: at all.

640
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 2: In fact, it's.

641
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:51,000
Speaker 1: Good, am I Like, what, like, you've just immediately moved

642
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:55,600
Speaker 1: on from how crazy this is to she immediately likes it,

643
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 1: so that that is weird.

644
00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:59,799
Speaker 2: We go to the vault. Very weird, very very weird.

645
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,239
Speaker 1: We go to the vault. It's like a silo in

646
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:04,879
Speaker 1: the middle of some farmland. They go down there and

647
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:07,720
Speaker 1: it's like a bunch of high tech, cutting edge stuff

648
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 1: that he has collected.

649
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:12,479
Speaker 2: Weaponry. Now, that's all very iron Man coded. There's lots

650
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 2: of iron Man kind of stock tech down there. Why

651
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:16,520
Speaker 2: would he care about that?

652
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:19,720
Speaker 1: Jason, Well, he says the bunker makes him feel closer

653
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 1: to his dad, And I'm like, okay, your dad is

654
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:22,719
Speaker 1: obad state.

655
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:23,319
Speaker 2: I thought this.

656
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 1: Spoiler rack spoiler We do get this reveal later, but

657
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 1: it was very clear.

658
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 2: Dad is otate.

659
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 1: So Joe is like, I want to help people with

660
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:40,240
Speaker 1: tech in much the way, yeah, the way that really

661
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 1: wants to read. Doesn't respond to this again, this is

662
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:46,320
Speaker 1: like a small thing, but she doesn't trust Joe clearly,

663
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:48,880
Speaker 1: but he has something she wants. We go back to

664
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:51,759
Speaker 1: the apartment where Mom is having a full conversation with

665
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:55,399
Speaker 1: Natalie now like it's totally normal, and she's like, wow,

666
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:59,279
Speaker 1: you just seem like the real Natalie and not acknowledging

667
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:05,360
Speaker 1: how strange this is. Mom tells Natalie that Listen is

668
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 1: really stubborn and the way to help her is you

669
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 1: have to force your You have to force your help

670
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:13,279
Speaker 1: on her. That's the only way she will ax self help.

671
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:17,240
Speaker 1: And Natalie is like okay, yeah and yeah, basically.

672
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:19,400
Speaker 2: Gives her advice to give to an ai Mom.

673
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 1: And by the way, this is kind of my If

674
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 1: there's an elemental issue for me with Ironheart, it's that

675
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:32,440
Speaker 1: like re Rey is constantly having help forced on her

676
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:35,399
Speaker 1: or being talked into it. She doesn't make a lot

677
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:38,319
Speaker 1: of decisions on her own, it feels like, and so it.

678
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:41,239
Speaker 2: Feels ironically seeking out Joe as like one of the

679
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 2: only decisions that she makes, but everyone else is very

680
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:47,920
Speaker 2: much like leading her down a Sutain road. Even if

681
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:53,120
Speaker 2: you think about it with uh old the Hood Papa Robbins,

682
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:56,719
Speaker 2: they essentially trap her in like a sow trap and

683
00:36:56,800 --> 00:37:00,400
Speaker 2: like yeahma bonta to joining and then blackmailho with So

684
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:02,960
Speaker 2: there is not a lot of agency here, but in

685
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:06,920
Speaker 2: a way I don't I kind of I don't know

686
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:09,480
Speaker 2: if it's intentional or not, but I do kind of

687
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 2: like how that does also feel very realistic to when

688
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:15,920
Speaker 2: you're that age, Like that isn't a lot of agency.

689
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,319
Speaker 2: People can lead you down these roads. But it is

690
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 2: weird that it's like an ongoing thread where somebody even says,

691
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 2: like force help on her. It's the only way she'll

692
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 2: accept it, you know. It starts to be like an

693
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 2: excuse to just tell really where she's going.

694
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 1: So At the Vault really asks Joe for his take

695
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 1: on now he basically describes the situation with Natalie.

696
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 2: Joe's like, that can't happen. It's impossible.

697
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:46,440
Speaker 1: She's like, well, what if it did happen, He'd be like, well,

698
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 1: it be unethical. For one thing, we find out that

699
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 1: his like day job is like he's a tech ethicist.

700
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:53,920
Speaker 2: It's ethicist, Yeah, which is from the comics.

701
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, and so really has to basically go Joe into

702
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 1: helping her tweak the suit. And there's this weird note

703
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:05,279
Speaker 1: where Joe doesn't want to touch anything. He doesn't want

704
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 1: to touch any of the tech that he's collected. So

705
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:11,840
Speaker 1: Re really like forces him to like handle this piece

706
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:13,279
Speaker 1: of like gear.

707
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:15,359
Speaker 2: And how does it feel. It feels cold and medally and.

708
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 1: It's clear that he really is warming up to it,

709
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 1: and then Re shoots off and flies off to the heist.

710
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 1: The heist begins, and it's all basically going according to plan,

711
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:28,279
Speaker 1: with only one obvious murder in the control room when

712
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 1: Jonathan Knife's a guy like throws a knife into his

713
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:33,480
Speaker 1: chest and it's clear that that guy is dead, but

714
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:37,920
Speaker 1: we never discuss it later and almost like maybe a.

715
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:42,000
Speaker 2: Good kind of like note that maybe John is a

716
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:47,600
Speaker 2: little bit like he always not. He's I mean one

717
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:51,239
Speaker 2: like if you're in, if your major hyperfixation is nice, yeah,

718
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:56,640
Speaker 2: never bodes well. Like let's talk about not to chat

719
00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:59,360
Speaker 2: GTPH but yeah, oh my god, I call it the

720
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 2: wrong name every time. I'm sorry, guys, but you know what,

721
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 2: that's just me, that's just who I am. I'll never

722
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:05,840
Speaker 2: remember chat GPT is the real name, sorry chat GPT,

723
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:09,279
Speaker 2: So that guy's did that, and then the c and

724
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:12,960
Speaker 2: then Sheila the CEO, enters the tunnel system. The Gang

725
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 2: is taking control of the control.

726
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 1: Room of the tunnel project with Slug, you know, like

727
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 1: doing all the hacking stuff, and Slug gives re read

728
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:28,880
Speaker 1: like a drive device that she needs to use to

729
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:33,880
Speaker 1: like install on the platform that is carrying Sheila's car.

730
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 1: But uh, problems arise and she and re loses the

731
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 1: drive and so she has to contact the gang and

732
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 1: be like, Okay, new plan, here's what we're going to do.

733
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:49,400
Speaker 1: And the plan the plan works, the tunnel system crashes

734
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:51,880
Speaker 1: just as it's supposed to do, and then the Hood

735
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:54,440
Speaker 1: appears in Sheila's car right next to her, like it

736
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:57,400
Speaker 1: becomes visible, yeah, and he Basically we find out what

737
00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:00,440
Speaker 1: the what the whole gig of the gang is. It's

738
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:04,439
Speaker 1: basically they're extorting these billionaires and being like, here's here's

739
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:08,040
Speaker 1: a contract for like no show jobs for every member

740
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:10,120
Speaker 1: of the gang where we all make I don't know

741
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:11,719
Speaker 1: what this. What do you think the salary is on

742
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:13,840
Speaker 1: the no show It's it's.

743
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:17,960
Speaker 2: Given like at least six figures a gig two fifty

744
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 2: h time. Yeah, and and the idea is that kind

745
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:26,880
Speaker 2: of hilariously, I didn't really And it's everything tell that

746
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:32,799
Speaker 2: basically they're finding leverage on these billionaires and then being like, hey,

747
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:35,879
Speaker 2: we'll reveal this if you don't give us a job.

748
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:38,279
Speaker 2: I'm like, what about we'll reveal this if you just

749
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 2: give us money, Like why do you have to do

750
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 2: the labor, like just extort them for the money?

751
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:45,239
Speaker 1: Well, I mean it's a I guess it's like, well no,

752
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:47,799
Speaker 1: because it's a no show job, like like in the Mob,

753
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 1: where they don't have to go to work, but technically

754
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 1: they are.

755
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:53,239
Speaker 2: On the page getting paid. Yeah. Yeah.

756
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 1: Now my issue with that is now, like your bank

757
00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:00,840
Speaker 1: account and everything is connected to these crimes. It feels

758
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:04,719
Speaker 1: like just to your point, just get the cash and leave.

759
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:05,920
Speaker 1: Let's get the cash, guys.

760
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:10,399
Speaker 2: So then so it seems like it's going well.

761
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 1: Sheila signs the contract for the no show jobs and

762
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 1: a lifetime access to the tunnel, So now the gang

763
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:18,760
Speaker 1: can use the tunnels to like go to and fro.

764
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:21,759
Speaker 2: And the enough to pay a troll. A security guard.

765
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:26,880
Speaker 1: Confronts Natalie as they've exited the tunnels in the armor,

766
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:29,839
Speaker 1: so Rere and Natalie are in the armor and they've

767
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:34,360
Speaker 1: exited and this security guard has a gun pulled and

768
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 1: the face visor is up, so like Reary is exposed

769
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 1: and seeing this gun causes Rere to have like, you know,

770
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:49,879
Speaker 1: church post traumatic trauma like attack, and just in that moment,

771
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:53,240
Speaker 1: Natalie also glitches, and so now Reread doesn't have control

772
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 1: of the suit. And then the guy shoots, but the

773
00:41:56,520 --> 00:42:00,080
Speaker 1: bullet like Bend's wanted style.

774
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:03,440
Speaker 2: I was gonna say immediately, I was like, oh, I

775
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:05,280
Speaker 2: was bending a bullet.

776
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:11,400
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, it bends, one hits, the hits the security

777
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 1: guard on the shoulder.

778
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:14,840
Speaker 2: He goes down and it's park Parker did this somehow,

779
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 2: you like, with the wood's power.

780
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:23,359
Speaker 1: And so that's one with a bullet wound and then

781
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:26,840
Speaker 1: one guy one hundred percent dead. But they got the money.

782
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:29,839
Speaker 1: So the gang goes to celebrate it to hideout, and

783
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 1: they're like throwing cash around, which is like, where'd they

784
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:35,400
Speaker 1: get the cash so quickly whatever. Reary is obviously concerned

785
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:38,720
Speaker 1: because this did not go as smoothly as it seems.

786
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 2: I thought they didn't have people guys like dead.

787
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 1: Jonathand so the heut is way more violent she was

788
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 1: expecting she is. And then she's also like very curious

789
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 1: because like Parker has powers, like wait, what's this about? Yeah,

790
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 1: so she's asking clown about it. What do you know

791
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:04,120
Speaker 1: about him? And there's a lot of rumors flying around

792
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 1: nobody knows for sure, like what's going on around him?

793
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 1: Parker comes out, he makes a speech that's very cult leader.

794
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:13,239
Speaker 2: Oh my god, very very cult Come on, bro, Like

795
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 2: I was also okay, so let's check in at this point. Yeah,

796
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:19,319
Speaker 2: like I would say, maybe, okay, we're about to hit

797
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 2: like the fine the credits are about to roll on

798
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 2: episode two at this point, what do you believe? How

799
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:28,720
Speaker 2: in control of the Hood is Parker? Is the Hood

800
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:32,840
Speaker 2: real tech? Is it magic? What do you think of

801
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 2: Parker at this moment? Because this was definitely giving like

802
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:40,480
Speaker 2: kind of almost like Mysterio two point zero vibes to

803
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:43,360
Speaker 2: me at this point, especially with but the cult leader

804
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:46,840
Speaker 2: speech and then obviously the fact he can bend the bullets,

805
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 2: and I was I was still definitely in I was

806
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:54,160
Speaker 2: questioning at this point because we had posed the idea

807
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:57,239
Speaker 2: that he was gonna maybe just be using tech and

808
00:43:57,280 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 2: that would be that grounded nature. But they are very

809
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:03,200
Speaker 2: Billy leaning on the notion of magic and talking about magic.

810
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 2: So I'm I was definitely interested.

811
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:10,719
Speaker 1: Well consist point, I think considering how one to one,

812
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 1: a lot of the stuff is in the show thus far,

813
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:15,719
Speaker 1: like from the comics, I think that, yeah, I think

814
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 1: that it is magic, and then I think, you know,

815
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:21,880
Speaker 1: there's this there's these whisperings that are happening, and the scenes.

816
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:24,760
Speaker 2: Where it's just Parker and Jonathan, and yeah, it sounds

817
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:26,959
Speaker 2: like there's kind of yes.

818
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:30,520
Speaker 1: So I do believe that it's magic, and I think

819
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:33,799
Speaker 1: it's probably if it's not the Fisto, it's some sort

820
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 1: of other demon.

821
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 2: But it's problem Yeah, Like we know that the cloak

822
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:41,279
Speaker 2: actually connects him to Dormamu in the comics, but I

823
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:43,919
Speaker 2: think we've done with dor Mamu, doctor Strange. I feel

824
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:45,160
Speaker 2: like that would be a let down to a lot

825
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:48,400
Speaker 2: of people. The cloak is also giving wonder maximum of

826
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:50,759
Speaker 2: so I have been interested in that because it looks

827
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:53,480
Speaker 2: like it's made out of her costume. It's that very

828
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 2: It's like is it leather? Is it some kind of

829
00:44:56,600 --> 00:45:00,319
Speaker 2: athleisure fabric? Like what's going on with the herd? But

830
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 2: it's definitely it's taking a toll on Parker because he's

831
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 2: got all the scars, yes, having to cover them up

832
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:11,959
Speaker 2: with some like fucking prism break style tattoos like which

833
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:14,760
Speaker 2: I guess is Jonathan doing the tattoos too.

834
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 1: Yes, Jonathan is also he's again jacket again, a jack

835
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:21,719
Speaker 1: of jacket everything.

836
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 2: Who doesn't love to have a friendly tattoo artist in

837
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:26,959
Speaker 2: that evil HQ. That's right, So.

838
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:32,279
Speaker 1: Everyone toasts, you know, it's a job well done, but

839
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:34,440
Speaker 1: it's clear that Weary is like this is I have

840
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 1: doubts about this? Yeah, obviously you guy's dead. Anyway, they

841
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:41,760
Speaker 1: go back home. Natalie apologizes for glitching out. She's froze

842
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:44,440
Speaker 1: when she saw the gun and reads like, what do

843
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:47,839
Speaker 1: you remember about like this certain night on this certain days?

844
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 1: She's like, I don't remember anything about it?

845
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 2: What happened?

846
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:53,920
Speaker 1: And Natalie says also, but by the way, like Parker,

847
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:56,879
Speaker 1: there's like a weird energy coming off of him. It's

848
00:45:56,880 --> 00:46:01,200
Speaker 1: like nothing I've ever read like since before. He's powered

849
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 1: in some way. Re Rey is much more focused though,

850
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:08,440
Speaker 1: on her barely functioning AI and the fact that like

851
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 1: the glitch almost killed them. And then but before she

852
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 1: can really explore this, she's like, oh, I said I

853
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 1: would go meet Zay at this party. So she goes

854
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:19,759
Speaker 1: to the party, and Natalie promises to stay hidden from

855
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:21,440
Speaker 1: her brother, which is also.

856
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:24,200
Speaker 2: Like, bro, like your mama's already also like your mama

857
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:29,120
Speaker 2: about how about you fix the AI of your best

858
00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:33,360
Speaker 2: friend that you have understated into this metal body and

859
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:38,280
Speaker 2: don't go to the party deal anyway?

860
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:41,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like that's a genius would be like, well,

861
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 1: this is obviously a much more pressing and interesting problem

862
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:46,239
Speaker 1: than like the party.

863
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:48,400
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna go, know the party anyway. Back at

864
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:51,400
Speaker 2: the hideout, it's very p it's very peapaka issues like

865
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 2: double life. You have to go see your friends, but

866
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:56,799
Speaker 2: really you're like, maybe you should stop the Green Goblin, bro.

867
00:46:57,520 --> 00:46:59,000
Speaker 2: So it's very classic comics.

868
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:02,399
Speaker 1: So Parker is hearing voices, the hood is kind of

869
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 1: talking to him. He's like writhing with discomfort, and his

870
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:11,400
Speaker 1: back tattoos like obviously getting bigger, and John is worried

871
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:15,320
Speaker 1: about him. You know what all of this is doing

872
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 1: to him, he basically says, And Parker's like, don't worry

873
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:18,279
Speaker 1: about it.

874
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:18,960
Speaker 2: That's my business.

875
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 1: Now get out of here, give me some privacy. Gets

876
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:23,759
Speaker 1: home and her mom is like what are you gonna

877
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:25,080
Speaker 1: tell me you resurrected Natalie?

878
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:33,040
Speaker 2: Mom? What do you want me to go to therapy? Don't

879
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:34,920
Speaker 2: you tell me? Are we going to tell?

880
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 1: And then she and then she says, this is actually

881
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:43,719
Speaker 1: crazy to me. She goes, it's like you brought back

882
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:47,279
Speaker 1: her entire soul. And then she says, can you make

883
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:50,799
Speaker 1: one of Gary, her dad, her stepdad. Technically I'm gonna

884
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:51,680
Speaker 1: call him dad.

885
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:56,439
Speaker 2: He's the dad, yeah, and he's the dad who stepped up. Yeah.

886
00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 1: And she's like, can you make one of Gary? And

887
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:02,160
Speaker 1: really says no and p because she doesn't knew how

888
00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:03,279
Speaker 1: she did Nalie.

889
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:07,080
Speaker 2: But this is like a fact we're not now gonna

890
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:11,040
Speaker 2: explore these questions. Is like you need to explore these

891
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:14,359
Speaker 2: first of all proof. Can I just say, even though

892
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 2: it came in a very up way that could be

893
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 2: making bank, she just this this is but also, like, guys,

894
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:27,560
Speaker 2: you both need to go to therapy and have some

895
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:32,440
Speaker 2: deep like E D M R like former therapy, because

896
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:36,040
Speaker 2: you should not just be thinking about how to resurrect

897
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:39,760
Speaker 2: ai versions of your dead loved ones. That is literally

898
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 2: it's been done in black mirror like three or four times.

899
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:45,799
Speaker 2: Don't do it it's gonna go badly. Also, I love

900
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:49,400
Speaker 2: like I do feel from a from a creative perspective,

901
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:51,759
Speaker 2: I feel like the way they introduce the mom is

902
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:54,280
Speaker 2: like she's super chilling, cool and just lets ree redo

903
00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:56,319
Speaker 2: what she wants. And I feel like at some point

904
00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 2: they must have been like, yeah, yeah, that's why she's

905
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:00,839
Speaker 2: not bothered about Natalie. And I'm like, no, guys, has

906
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:03,719
Speaker 2: a difference about having a mama's chill. I also get

907
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:07,680
Speaker 2: also spelled from school. There was no suggestion chill. There

908
00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:09,560
Speaker 2: was like in the initial.

909
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:11,600
Speaker 1: Meeting of her, there was like a I forget the

910
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:13,400
Speaker 1: line exactly, but we kind of like get got a

911
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:15,440
Speaker 1: suggestion that she was religious. And I'll just say, like

912
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:19,960
Speaker 1: every religious person I know, oh would respond to this

913
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:23,080
Speaker 1: situation like it was the devil. Like they would it

914
00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:25,440
Speaker 1: would not be good. And I will say, like to

915
00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:27,799
Speaker 1: your point about the black mirror stuff and any other

916
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:30,920
Speaker 1: AI comes to life like story that we've heard, Yeah,

917
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:33,800
Speaker 1: it's more weird to me that it seems like there's

918
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:35,640
Speaker 1: gonna be no downside, it's.

919
00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:39,800
Speaker 2: Gonna be all fine. That seems weirder to me. I

920
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:43,359
Speaker 2: will also say I do think because again, like reading

921
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:47,280
Speaker 2: the comics, I think something that they missed Tia the

922
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 2: which I get it because I love the idea of

923
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:53,360
Speaker 2: her having her own story, but in the comics really

924
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:58,080
Speaker 2: is used to weird AI inhabit like that exists because

925
00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:01,560
Speaker 2: she is walking with an AI version of Tony Stark

926
00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:04,080
Speaker 2: who just like walks around her house and like in

927
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:07,320
Speaker 2: her office and helps her, so she is less freaked

928
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 2: out by it. I think the fact that we don't

929
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:13,359
Speaker 2: have that history here or that kind of conversation or

930
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:16,600
Speaker 2: a stand in for that makes it seem absolutely wild

931
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:20,040
Speaker 2: that her and her mama just like loving this guy's great.

932
00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:24,440
Speaker 1: Immediately okay with it. We go to Evanston, where Joe

933
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:27,800
Speaker 1: steps in his neighbor's dogs shit on his lawns.

934
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:28,680
Speaker 2: So he goes over and.

935
00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:31,399
Speaker 1: He like decapitates all of his neighbor's flowers. Our first

936
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:33,680
Speaker 1: kind of hint maybe that there's something darker about Joe.

937
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:35,640
Speaker 1: Let's go to a break and then we'll talk about

938
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:40,240
Speaker 1: the third episode in the tranche of three episodes.

939
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:56,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, and we're back.

940
00:50:56,840 --> 00:50:59,560
Speaker 1: So the Gang is celebrating with its new founderings of

941
00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:02,759
Speaker 1: throwing all around. They're talking about their plans, like I

942
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:06,920
Speaker 1: want to open a restaurant, rampage.

943
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:11,000
Speaker 2: No one knows is big clubs.

944
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:13,560
Speaker 1: Like Clown is like, I want to open a school

945
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:15,200
Speaker 1: for money laundering purposes.

946
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:16,239
Speaker 2: The siblings want to open.

947
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:20,479
Speaker 1: I appreciate, and Red is of course investing in her suit,

948
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:22,719
Speaker 1: to which again I say, like.

949
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:26,319
Speaker 2: What's we needed end? We need an end goal for readabies.

950
00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:29,080
Speaker 1: That's looking pretty good, it's working, Like, so what are

951
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:31,480
Speaker 1: we waiting working? I feel like you just need to

952
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:33,799
Speaker 1: like just go to the car shop painting it, like

953
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:36,360
Speaker 1: I feel like a prey, close babe. So the party

954
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:40,439
Speaker 1: screeches to a halt when Clown comes out of Parker's room,

955
00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:43,120
Speaker 1: having picked Parker's vault and taken out the hood, and

956
00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:46,760
Speaker 1: she's got the hood on and she's like prancing around

957
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:47,399
Speaker 1: and she's like.

958
00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:49,560
Speaker 2: But it feels weird. There's something weird about it.

959
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:51,920
Speaker 1: They kind of talk about like trying to figure out

960
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:53,799
Speaker 1: what's going on with the Hood and figuring out like

961
00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:55,600
Speaker 1: where Parker's powers come from.

962
00:51:55,640 --> 00:52:00,359
Speaker 2: But then an interesting and sensible divugeon for the gag

963
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:02,759
Speaker 2: you should be doing this, But then John shows up

964
00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:06,280
Speaker 2: and like bashes Clown's head into the table. Crazy John's

965
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:08,719
Speaker 2: done for in my mind, And then Rey is like,

966
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:12,480
Speaker 2: what's your problem, to which I would say, and I'm

967
00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:15,680
Speaker 2: not condoning violence, but also like, well you did just

968
00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:19,000
Speaker 2: break into the guy's like vaults, like safe, who's running this?

969
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:23,400
Speaker 1: You understand what the problem is. And so then Parker

970
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:25,480
Speaker 1: shows up and is like everybody, everybody chill up.

971
00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:27,720
Speaker 2: It's fine, John, it's fine.

972
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 1: Clown, don't worry about it. Everybody chill Here's what're.

973
00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:36,640
Speaker 2: The come on, guys, this is not a good situation. Again,

974
00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:41,480
Speaker 2: I think this is a pacing issue because, for example,

975
00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:45,160
Speaker 2: would have loved to see Clown pick that safe love

976
00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:47,279
Speaker 2: the idea that they would have tried. Everyone would have

977
00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:49,239
Speaker 2: tried to try on that suit, right the guy. Everyone

978
00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:51,759
Speaker 2: wants to know how it works. It's them. We know

979
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:54,680
Speaker 2: the world that we're living in. There are superheroes, there

980
00:52:54,680 --> 00:52:57,680
Speaker 2: are super villains. This has power, and I think again,

981
00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:01,120
Speaker 2: like John putting his hands on a woman like that

982
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:05,120
Speaker 2: should have expanded a conversation, and it does influence something

983
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:07,799
Speaker 2: really does light, which I think is interesting. But yeah,

984
00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:12,480
Speaker 2: then hot Hood and Poka being like, oh, let's just

985
00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:15,480
Speaker 2: go on to our next tyst. I'm like, bro, the

986
00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:19,000
Speaker 2: gang is not solid, Like there is beef in the gang,

987
00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:21,280
Speaker 2: Like this is gonna end badly for someone.

988
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:24,879
Speaker 1: So here's the next heist. It's Heirloom, which is an

989
00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:31,240
Speaker 1: ag tech company. CEO Hunter Mason is into like making

990
00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:36,480
Speaker 1: seeds and archiving seeds and creating food that you can

991
00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:40,600
Speaker 1: grow like kind of in different places using technology. The

992
00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:43,160
Speaker 1: thing about Heirloom HQ is it has really good security

993
00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:45,319
Speaker 1: where it's like a magneto thing. You can't bring in

994
00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:49,879
Speaker 1: any metal or weaponry. Yeah, or the security system will

995
00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:52,839
Speaker 1: sense it in lockdown no matter where it is. So

996
00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:55,759
Speaker 1: that means no suit for re. Rea re Re talks

997
00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:58,200
Speaker 1: of the hood and here we have this conversation that

998
00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:03,040
Speaker 1: I'm like, this kind of shouldn't this shouldn't exist.

999
00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:05,479
Speaker 2: She says, yeah, the hood. Okay, what are we doing?

1000
00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:06,200
Speaker 2: Like what is this?

1001
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:09,320
Speaker 1: We're doing crimes? I want you to know that I'm

1002
00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:12,360
Speaker 1: a good person, not a criminal, and.

1003
00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:16,040
Speaker 2: We had I think also, this is like this is

1004
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:20,640
Speaker 2: where I feel like here, this could have been such

1005
00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:26,080
Speaker 2: an interesting conversation to have about the notion of criminal

1006
00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:30,640
Speaker 2: criminality and somebody like Tony Stark who was a literal

1007
00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:35,520
Speaker 2: war criminal and had to reimagine his world, and there

1008
00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:39,319
Speaker 2: could have been like a five minute at least a

1009
00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:43,560
Speaker 2: tiny introspection on the notion of like what is crime

1010
00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:46,839
Speaker 2: or how does crime pay or what like, maybe you're

1011
00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:48,960
Speaker 2: looking at it the wrong way. But instead it's just

1012
00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:55,399
Speaker 2: like he's just nobody. Yeah, okay, we get it broke.

1013
00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:59,040
Speaker 2: Nobody paid attention to you until you were wearing the hood.

1014
00:54:59,080 --> 00:54:59,960
Speaker 2: We've heard it before.

1015
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:02,680
Speaker 1: From that, it's just a setup for Perker to talk

1016
00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:06,520
Speaker 1: about why his background a little bit and I agree

1017
00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:09,920
Speaker 1: with you like to here. I kept on waiting for

1018
00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:13,000
Speaker 1: Rere to be like, no, we're not doing it this way.

1019
00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:15,319
Speaker 1: Here's how we're gonna do this, like and there gonna

1020
00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:19,200
Speaker 1: be fucking I on, man, I can stop you for

1021
00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:22,239
Speaker 1: for them to be some power struggle in terms of

1022
00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:24,640
Speaker 1: like how they're gonna do these heists. Like after I

1023
00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:26,719
Speaker 1: saw the first one, it was so violent, Like we

1024
00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:28,560
Speaker 1: can do it this way and make it less violent,

1025
00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:29,719
Speaker 1: and ince.

1026
00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:32,320
Speaker 2: Is my genius scheme on how we neba huh anyone.

1027
00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:34,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then she just gets kind of talked into

1028
00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:40,080
Speaker 1: doing it again. And it's weird to me that said,

1029
00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:44,239
Speaker 1: uh really then is like how does the hood work?

1030
00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:46,560
Speaker 1: Like what's going on that he just basically says, Hey,

1031
00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:48,880
Speaker 1: it's magic. She's like that just means you don't know

1032
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:51,520
Speaker 1: how it works. It's like, okay, so what you're making

1033
00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:53,080
Speaker 1: money out making money and that's all.

1034
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:55,400
Speaker 2: We really need. Also, right, can I have this question

1035
00:55:55,719 --> 00:55:59,480
Speaker 2: for the hood? I get it. I get that it's

1036
00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:02,840
Speaker 2: like cool motif for him to be like it's magic,

1037
00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:05,800
Speaker 2: But if it's really magic, he needs to stop telling

1038
00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:09,319
Speaker 2: people that. I know, like, he needs to stop saying oh,

1039
00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:12,040
Speaker 2: it's magic, because I'm like, guys, magic is very brah

1040
00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:13,759
Speaker 2: in this world, and I feel like you're putting a

1041
00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:18,160
Speaker 2: talk on your back. Okay, so she said, so, then, uh,

1042
00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:19,480
Speaker 2: I know.

1043
00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:23,360
Speaker 1: Later Joe shows up at her house AT's house and

1044
00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:24,759
Speaker 1: Mom is like, who the fuck is this guy?

1045
00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:28,880
Speaker 2: And was like, oh, we know each other from work.

1046
00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:32,200
Speaker 1: And and and my secret job.

1047
00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:32,839
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1048
00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:35,680
Speaker 1: It's very weird to me that, Like Mom has like

1049
00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:38,719
Speaker 1: many more questions about Joe than she has about the

1050
00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:43,960
Speaker 1: Natalie Resurrection air that said, Joe is like ever since

1051
00:56:44,320 --> 00:56:47,200
Speaker 1: re remade him hold that piece of equipment, He's like

1052
00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:51,400
Speaker 1: bursting with ideas about like tech applications and stuff he

1053
00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:53,480
Speaker 1: can do. Stuff he stores in his wall and he

1054
00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:56,279
Speaker 1: gives her like all these blueprints and it's like, well,

1055
00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:58,400
Speaker 1: now I'm gonna rat you out either you help me

1056
00:56:58,440 --> 00:57:00,680
Speaker 1: with these blueprints and give me your thoughts on them,

1057
00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:03,000
Speaker 1: or I watch you out to your mom and then he.

1058
00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:03,920
Speaker 2: Drops off the difference.

1059
00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:07,719
Speaker 1: Really wants to optimize the suit, but Natalie takes over

1060
00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:10,080
Speaker 1: the suit for a second and starts arguing with her again.

1061
00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:14,319
Speaker 1: Natalie wants Natalie just wants really to hang out with her,

1062
00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:16,320
Speaker 1: which really reluctantly.

1063
00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:22,400
Speaker 2: Agrees to do. Oh and that's bread the suit. Epically,

1064
00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:26,600
Speaker 2: this is breaking my heart. This kind of like inter

1065
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:32,880
Speaker 2: change between the idea of like this transactional relationship between them,

1066
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:36,200
Speaker 2: where like it has to be like y'all hang out

1067
00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:39,400
Speaker 2: with you, but if you are grading my suit, yeah,

1068
00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:41,880
Speaker 2: but I'm like, but if she is all the memories

1069
00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:44,760
Speaker 2: of your friend, like, how is she experiencing this? I

1070
00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:47,400
Speaker 2: don't know. Yeah, I think the Natalie stuff has really

1071
00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:49,480
Speaker 2: got me hung up on a lot of like ethical

1072
00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:51,959
Speaker 2: and emotional questions that I don't know if the show

1073
00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:54,160
Speaker 2: was planning on. I completely agree with you.

1074
00:57:55,240 --> 00:58:00,000
Speaker 1: So they hang out by the lake and then Joe

1075
00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:03,480
Speaker 1: texts again this is like these scenes are happening way

1076
00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:06,040
Speaker 1: too fast, where the pacing is just like this could

1077
00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:08,120
Speaker 1: be an interesting scene if you let it breathe, But

1078
00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:12,360
Speaker 1: we don't have time. So Joe is like, can you

1079
00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:18,000
Speaker 1: come over early? And uh, you know, really briefly is

1080
00:58:18,080 --> 00:58:20,640
Speaker 1: kind of like wondering, like about like Natalie, why do

1081
00:58:20,680 --> 00:58:23,280
Speaker 1: you have the memories of Natalie?

1082
00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:25,520
Speaker 2: And uh, but.

1083
00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:27,960
Speaker 1: They don't really explore it again and she has to

1084
00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:29,280
Speaker 1: has to go to Joe's.

1085
00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:32,440
Speaker 2: Also, I'm pretty sure that when Joe shows up and

1086
00:58:32,480 --> 00:58:34,160
Speaker 2: she's like, how did you find me, He's like, oh,

1087
00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:37,080
Speaker 2: I just like googled your address and I'm like, remy,

1088
00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:39,880
Speaker 2: take an hour and stop that because you need to

1089
00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:43,560
Speaker 2: get that shit wiped off the internet. There are services

1090
00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:47,440
Speaker 2: you can pay, you can get Shakeula Gorgeous hack a

1091
00:58:47,560 --> 00:58:50,360
Speaker 2: slug to help you. But like, this man should not

1092
00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:53,240
Speaker 2: just be able to find your mom's address on the Internet.

1093
00:58:53,320 --> 00:58:56,080
Speaker 2: That's not gonna bode well for you in your Iron

1094
00:58:56,120 --> 00:58:58,160
Speaker 2: Man era that you were going for.

1095
00:58:58,560 --> 00:59:00,800
Speaker 1: So Natalie and re Re goo to the garage to

1096
00:59:00,840 --> 00:59:04,600
Speaker 1: see the garage they're talking about like the work she's

1097
00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:06,400
Speaker 1: doing for Parker, and Ree says, I plan to do

1098
00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:09,400
Speaker 1: a couple more jobs and then I'm out again. Just

1099
00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:12,160
Speaker 1: give me a hard number, like what is the dollar

1100
00:59:12,200 --> 00:59:14,920
Speaker 1: a month? Couple five?

1101
00:59:15,160 --> 00:59:18,960
Speaker 2: The garage? Just on a just on like a continuity

1102
00:59:19,600 --> 00:59:21,479
Speaker 2: thing here, and this is what happened when you watch

1103
00:59:21,680 --> 00:59:24,800
Speaker 2: these shows like more than once and you start to

1104
00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:27,480
Speaker 2: know that she has a go at her mom and

1105
00:59:27,520 --> 00:59:30,840
Speaker 2: says like, oh, you haven't been keeping the Gary's garage

1106
00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:33,600
Speaker 2: up to scratch, Like it's looking fucked up. It looks

1107
00:59:33,920 --> 00:59:36,040
Speaker 2: it looks great, it looks really great. It could have

1108
00:59:36,120 --> 00:59:40,080
Speaker 2: always been her you know shop, which obviously is inevitably

1109
00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:42,680
Speaker 2: gonna turn back into it. It's looking fine.

1110
00:59:42,880 --> 00:59:47,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, So they're in the garage, they're talking about stuff.

1111
00:59:47,480 --> 00:59:51,120
Speaker 1: Really has a flashback to the night that her dad

1112
00:59:51,160 --> 00:59:52,120
Speaker 1: and Natalie were killed.

1113
00:59:52,720 --> 00:59:53,600
Speaker 2: It was a drive by.

1114
00:59:55,120 --> 00:59:58,360
Speaker 1: Natalie talks re redowned from her panic attack, which is

1115
00:59:58,480 --> 01:00:00,960
Speaker 1: just like her dad used to do. Now, I was like, well,

1116
01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:02,600
Speaker 1: how do you know how to do that? Like only

1117
01:00:02,640 --> 01:00:05,520
Speaker 1: my dad could do that? Again, like this lack of

1118
01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:07,560
Speaker 1: curiosity about like how do you have all these like

1119
01:00:08,080 --> 01:00:10,000
Speaker 1: where does all this stuff come from? Like she should

1120
01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:11,240
Speaker 1: be trying to figure this out.

1121
01:00:11,680 --> 01:00:15,960
Speaker 2: Okay, you know, I will say we you might be

1122
01:00:15,960 --> 01:00:19,280
Speaker 2: thinking like do you need two people to have been

1123
01:00:19,320 --> 01:00:22,960
Speaker 2: fridged for this story? That's the part that's my other

1124
01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:25,360
Speaker 2: thing is like that question when I'm gonna tell you.

1125
01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:28,520
Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you something, guys. Yeah, if you had

1126
01:00:28,560 --> 01:00:32,000
Speaker 2: read if you read the original Williams Commis, you may

1127
01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:36,640
Speaker 2: have forgotten about this. But they actually uh fridged another

1128
01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:40,600
Speaker 2: person in her life in the original comics, Demetrius, her father,

1129
01:00:41,160 --> 01:00:45,400
Speaker 2: who gets killed in a gas station robbery gone wrong

1130
01:00:45,440 --> 01:00:48,320
Speaker 2: when she's five, and then she goes lives with her

1131
01:00:48,320 --> 01:00:52,000
Speaker 2: I'm gonna stepdad Gary, and then Gary gets killed with Natalie.

1132
01:00:52,080 --> 01:00:54,600
Speaker 2: So I'm like, please, guys, maybe like a little bit

1133
01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:58,920
Speaker 2: less of this fridging. Now, look are they gonna If

1134
01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:01,040
Speaker 2: they're gonna spend the time I'm in this show to

1135
01:01:01,160 --> 01:01:05,560
Speaker 2: explore the notion of gun violence and how it impacts

1136
01:01:05,600 --> 01:01:08,680
Speaker 2: young people, then I'm very interested, and I'm glad that

1137
01:01:08,680 --> 01:01:10,680
Speaker 2: they cut the Demetrius part as far as we know,

1138
01:01:10,920 --> 01:01:14,160
Speaker 2: but I don't think the show has the scope or

1139
01:01:14,240 --> 01:01:18,240
Speaker 2: time to deal with this. And as she has this

1140
01:01:18,320 --> 01:01:23,880
Speaker 2: panic attack, I feel like there's a great place there

1141
01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:28,080
Speaker 2: where maybe you know, some her interacting with Natalie or

1142
01:01:28,160 --> 01:01:30,640
Speaker 2: I don't know, But instead she's got to go home

1143
01:01:30,640 --> 01:01:32,760
Speaker 2: and find out that the cops are there because there's

1144
01:01:32,800 --> 01:01:38,120
Speaker 2: another plotline that is about to begin. Yeah, So you

1145
01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:38,800
Speaker 2: make a good point.

1146
01:01:38,840 --> 01:01:44,760
Speaker 1: Which is like, I like the exploration emotionally of the

1147
01:01:44,800 --> 01:01:46,800
Speaker 1: impact of this stuff. But it's also weird to me

1148
01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:50,640
Speaker 1: that like Rerie kind of never says I'm having these

1149
01:01:50,680 --> 01:01:54,160
Speaker 1: feelings because of this, when everything else in the show

1150
01:01:54,360 --> 01:01:59,280
Speaker 1: is like it's very explained, implicitly, almost over explained.

1151
01:01:59,440 --> 01:02:03,600
Speaker 2: That's so really great point, also weird. I would love

1152
01:02:03,640 --> 01:02:06,000
Speaker 2: for her to have this conversation, and maybe this's going

1153
01:02:06,080 --> 01:02:07,720
Speaker 2: to happen in the next three episodes, but I would

1154
01:02:07,720 --> 01:02:10,200
Speaker 2: love for her to have this conversation with Xavia or

1155
01:02:10,200 --> 01:02:12,560
Speaker 2: with her mom, with a human being who is also

1156
01:02:12,680 --> 01:02:16,240
Speaker 2: impacted by this, instead of it being channeled through the

1157
01:02:16,360 --> 01:02:20,280
Speaker 2: Nathalie AI. So it's yeah, but guess what. The cops

1158
01:02:20,280 --> 01:02:23,520
Speaker 2: away after her, and now we know why she got

1159
01:02:23,520 --> 01:02:25,320
Speaker 2: to call Stewart aka Rampage.

1160
01:02:25,880 --> 01:02:29,600
Speaker 1: So she she u was the last person to call

1161
01:02:29,840 --> 01:02:32,960
Speaker 1: Rampage and Rampage is now dead, and so they cops

1162
01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:34,280
Speaker 1: want to talk to her about, like, what do you

1163
01:02:34,280 --> 01:02:39,760
Speaker 1: know about the death of Rampage. Re redecides that, okay,

1164
01:02:39,840 --> 01:02:43,240
Speaker 1: I need to I believe the gang is involved in

1165
01:02:43,280 --> 01:02:46,360
Speaker 1: the death of Rampage, and also I want to know

1166
01:02:46,400 --> 01:02:49,160
Speaker 1: what's going on with the Hood and the Magic powers

1167
01:02:49,640 --> 01:02:52,520
Speaker 1: potentially magic powers quote air quotes magic. So I need

1168
01:02:52,560 --> 01:02:54,240
Speaker 1: to steal a piece of the hood to analyze it

1169
01:02:54,280 --> 01:02:56,160
Speaker 1: to figure out if he's involved and figure out what

1170
01:02:56,200 --> 01:02:58,640
Speaker 1: we're up against. So the perfect time to grab a

1171
01:02:58,680 --> 01:03:02,440
Speaker 1: sample is during this heirloom heist, right, But.

1172
01:03:02,920 --> 01:03:05,880
Speaker 2: Why not just reach out to clown who already picked

1173
01:03:05,920 --> 01:03:07,960
Speaker 2: the lock and be like, hey, you want to get

1174
01:03:08,040 --> 01:03:13,800
Speaker 2: back on the fact that Joe fucking smashed your interest? Interesting? Sorry?

1175
01:03:13,960 --> 01:03:16,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then we could have this power struggle again

1176
01:03:16,280 --> 01:03:18,320
Speaker 1: within the gang and give her some agency. But no,

1177
01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:20,840
Speaker 1: she needs to kind of get talked into doing this

1178
01:03:20,920 --> 01:03:24,080
Speaker 1: Binatalie again, but she won't be able to bring the suit.

1179
01:03:24,520 --> 01:03:27,480
Speaker 1: But Joe brought a schematic for a type of like

1180
01:03:27,600 --> 01:03:30,400
Speaker 1: biomesh that is like it looks like a almost like

1181
01:03:30,440 --> 01:03:32,200
Speaker 1: a bandage that you wear on your arm there.

1182
01:03:32,200 --> 01:03:35,760
Speaker 2: Like a face skin. Yeah, yeah, it's like Stark nanotech.

1183
01:03:36,120 --> 01:03:38,520
Speaker 2: So then and I guess it can make a laser.

1184
01:03:38,600 --> 01:03:40,880
Speaker 2: And it can make a laser, don't worry. We go

1185
01:03:41,040 --> 01:03:42,640
Speaker 2: to the base where.

1186
01:03:42,480 --> 01:03:46,280
Speaker 1: Jonathan is doing watching Parker do hot yoga.

1187
01:03:46,400 --> 01:03:48,160
Speaker 2: By the way, can I just say something. I get

1188
01:03:48,200 --> 01:03:50,200
Speaker 2: that he's meant to be his cousin, but these two

1189
01:03:50,200 --> 01:03:53,280
Speaker 2: are playing this shits so gay for each other. I'm sorry, guys.

1190
01:03:53,760 --> 01:03:56,840
Speaker 2: I know, I know I do this with every show.

1191
01:03:56,960 --> 01:03:59,240
Speaker 2: I know he is meant to be his cousin, but like,

1192
01:03:59,360 --> 01:04:02,760
Speaker 2: why is Nathan just watching him do hot yoga? Watch

1193
01:04:04,320 --> 01:04:06,720
Speaker 2: watching him shirtless do hot yoga?

1194
01:04:07,760 --> 01:04:10,520
Speaker 1: Wait? Wait, doing his his back tattoo, and then as

1195
01:04:10,560 --> 01:04:16,880
Speaker 1: he's doing the tattoo, being like, I'm so sorry.

1196
01:04:15,920 --> 01:04:19,160
Speaker 2: I'm saying there is a chemistry here. And then also

1197
01:04:19,480 --> 01:04:24,000
Speaker 2: Jonathan finally saying something sensible, where he's like, guys, there's

1198
01:04:24,040 --> 01:04:28,640
Speaker 2: no there's actually no leverage against this billionab got leverage

1199
01:04:28,720 --> 01:04:31,400
Speaker 2: against all the rest of them, but no leverage against him,

1200
01:04:31,480 --> 01:04:33,840
Speaker 2: And and park is like, don't worry about it, babe.

1201
01:04:33,880 --> 01:04:36,960
Speaker 2: Just look at my rippling muscles and imagine when I'll

1202
01:04:37,000 --> 01:04:39,560
Speaker 2: be wearing the sexy magic hood again. Like what do

1203
01:04:39,600 --> 01:04:43,240
Speaker 2: you mean, no, don't do it? Cancel the schemes. So yeah,

1204
01:04:43,280 --> 01:04:45,280
Speaker 2: Jonathan's like, let's cancel the heist. Parker's like, no.

1205
01:04:45,680 --> 01:04:50,080
Speaker 1: Rear goes to see Joe at his house. Joe has

1206
01:04:50,160 --> 01:04:57,240
Speaker 1: a grizzly the way suh Rey leave basketball. You know what, really,

1207
01:04:57,560 --> 01:04:59,000
Speaker 1: Revery and Nally.

1208
01:04:59,040 --> 01:05:03,360
Speaker 2: And Joe and his nasty ass, can you know what

1209
01:05:04,040 --> 01:05:08,600
Speaker 2: he's motherfuckers. They are made preach on the two insane people.

1210
01:05:08,720 --> 01:05:11,760
Speaker 1: Honestly, cut does not even describe it. He's got a

1211
01:05:11,920 --> 01:05:17,520
Speaker 1: grizzly wound that is about in which he's like put

1212
01:05:17,680 --> 01:05:20,120
Speaker 1: like in a hole and he's like put stuff under

1213
01:05:20,160 --> 01:05:23,280
Speaker 1: the skin into his forearm and it's really gross, and

1214
01:05:23,520 --> 01:05:26,439
Speaker 1: Joe's like, can you help me with this? So Rear

1215
01:05:26,600 --> 01:05:29,840
Speaker 1: then tells Joe that she's got some ideas for upgrades

1216
01:05:29,840 --> 01:05:33,760
Speaker 1: for his biomesh idea. But Joe is like really concerned that, like, listen,

1217
01:05:33,800 --> 01:05:37,040
Speaker 1: if you use any of my tech for whatever it

1218
01:05:37,120 --> 01:05:41,280
Speaker 1: is you're doing, if it's criminal, especially, all that stuff

1219
01:05:41,320 --> 01:05:45,200
Speaker 1: is easily traced to me because of whatever however, I

1220
01:05:46,680 --> 01:05:50,240
Speaker 1: so you have to promise me that you're it. Whatever

1221
01:05:50,280 --> 01:05:51,760
Speaker 1: you do, it can't get traced back to me. She's

1222
01:05:51,800 --> 01:05:55,840
Speaker 1: like okay, and then Rear accidentally spills like a cereal

1223
01:05:56,120 --> 01:05:58,240
Speaker 1: bag's like.

1224
01:05:58,240 --> 01:06:02,200
Speaker 2: A fucking gallons. It just full of ashes that she's

1225
01:06:02,200 --> 01:06:04,720
Speaker 2: fucking around with and it just on the outside of

1226
01:06:04,760 --> 01:06:06,360
Speaker 2: the back and I have to say I do like

1227
01:06:10,640 --> 01:06:13,680
Speaker 2: it just says Obadiah S. So if you didn't know

1228
01:06:14,200 --> 01:06:16,320
Speaker 2: Joe is Zeke Stain.

1229
01:06:16,240 --> 01:06:20,479
Speaker 1: Yes, Zeke Stain and that is you know, Obadiah Stain

1230
01:06:20,560 --> 01:06:21,120
Speaker 1: in the bag.

1231
01:06:21,360 --> 01:06:24,200
Speaker 2: And again these two have like really great chemistry. I

1232
01:06:24,240 --> 01:06:26,320
Speaker 2: really like this scene is so funny together.

1233
01:06:26,400 --> 01:06:30,600
Speaker 1: This scene is cuckoo, bananas, nonsensical, but like they're so

1234
01:06:30,840 --> 01:06:36,640
Speaker 1: fun in it together it works. Yeah, so uh is like, oh,

1235
01:06:36,680 --> 01:06:39,440
Speaker 1: my dad taught me how to dress wounds like this

1236
01:06:39,600 --> 01:06:41,000
Speaker 1: crazy fucking.

1237
01:06:42,360 --> 01:06:47,920
Speaker 2: Jagged, fucking open bleeding which he put he put like

1238
01:06:47,960 --> 01:06:51,080
Speaker 2: a fucking neuralink in Like this man is insane, he's

1239
01:06:51,120 --> 01:06:54,480
Speaker 2: not well his dad, But I do again, this is

1240
01:06:54,680 --> 01:06:57,120
Speaker 2: a thing about pacing, right. I get that they wanted

1241
01:06:57,120 --> 01:06:59,440
Speaker 2: to reveal this. I get it, and I love the reveal.

1242
01:06:59,480 --> 01:07:02,520
Speaker 2: It's funny, but also, like you only have six episodes,

1243
01:07:02,680 --> 01:07:10,000
Speaker 2: there's something very interesting about the perceived mantle holder of

1244
01:07:10,040 --> 01:07:14,560
Speaker 2: the Iron Man legacy in rearly teaming up with the

1245
01:07:14,680 --> 01:07:19,360
Speaker 2: perceived like troubled legacy holder of a Badiah Stain. That's

1246
01:07:19,360 --> 01:07:21,440
Speaker 2: so interesting that maybe it didn't need to be a

1247
01:07:21,480 --> 01:07:24,800
Speaker 2: secret reveal, you know, maybe there's something in that about

1248
01:07:24,840 --> 01:07:27,080
Speaker 2: how they relate to their father figures that we've got

1249
01:07:27,120 --> 01:07:31,000
Speaker 2: more time with completely. I think it's so interesting and

1250
01:07:31,040 --> 01:07:32,760
Speaker 2: I hope we do get more of it. In the

1251
01:07:32,760 --> 01:07:36,600
Speaker 2: next part. But yeah, uh, do not. First of all, Zeke,

1252
01:07:37,120 --> 01:07:39,720
Speaker 2: do not let this gal use it. She's obviously gonna

1253
01:07:39,760 --> 01:07:43,000
Speaker 2: drop it, really don't. Just like he's so up this

1254
01:07:43,040 --> 01:07:45,040
Speaker 2: man's arm, like it's looking bad.

1255
01:07:45,160 --> 01:07:46,760
Speaker 1: Well, as soon as he said that, I'm like one

1256
01:07:46,840 --> 01:07:49,520
Speaker 1: hundred percent she is gonna drop this biometer.

1257
01:07:49,640 --> 01:07:50,520
Speaker 2: Drop that shares.

1258
01:07:51,960 --> 01:07:55,680
Speaker 1: So the gang needs to disarm and get into Heirloom.

1259
01:07:56,560 --> 01:07:59,240
Speaker 1: They all, you know, put away their weapons in order

1260
01:07:59,280 --> 01:08:01,360
Speaker 1: to break in, except for re Rea, of course, who's

1261
01:08:01,400 --> 01:08:03,920
Speaker 1: supposed to stay in her suit and do like an Overwatch,

1262
01:08:04,000 --> 01:08:07,320
Speaker 1: but it's Natalie piloting the suit and re Re secretly

1263
01:08:07,480 --> 01:08:11,200
Speaker 1: swims in with her biomesh patch through a set of pipes.

1264
01:08:11,720 --> 01:08:15,720
Speaker 1: Parker goes to confront the Heirloom CEO in his like

1265
01:08:15,760 --> 01:08:21,519
Speaker 1: greenhouse office, which actually looks pretty cool. Really is like

1266
01:08:21,720 --> 01:08:25,200
Speaker 1: under a grate in the floor.

1267
01:08:25,360 --> 01:08:29,439
Speaker 2: I was stressed watching this man. I'm like, you meant

1268
01:08:29,439 --> 01:08:35,120
Speaker 2: to be a genius impossible, So yes, yes, it's mission

1269
01:08:35,120 --> 01:08:36,360
Speaker 2: impossible levels of stressing.

1270
01:08:36,439 --> 01:08:39,200
Speaker 1: So like, Reary is using the laser in her biomesh

1271
01:08:39,240 --> 01:08:42,519
Speaker 1: to cut a little piece of the hood off, but

1272
01:08:42,600 --> 01:08:44,559
Speaker 1: it's tough because it's magic and it's leather.

1273
01:08:44,760 --> 01:08:48,880
Speaker 2: And that's also some kind of like Hubrin, there's some

1274
01:08:49,000 --> 01:08:51,320
Speaker 2: kind of kind of gaming technique.

1275
01:08:51,040 --> 01:08:57,639
Speaker 1: Because remember the security system will they couldn't get possible,

1276
01:08:57,680 --> 01:09:02,640
Speaker 1: will sense any weapons or technology or or metal that

1277
01:09:02,760 --> 01:09:06,160
Speaker 1: it doesn't recognize and trigger, so she has to stay

1278
01:09:06,160 --> 01:09:07,800
Speaker 1: below this threshold.

1279
01:09:07,400 --> 01:09:11,040
Speaker 2: While you very gamified. It's very funny. It's like if

1280
01:09:11,040 --> 01:09:13,320
Speaker 2: you've ever tried to, like, you know, play a game

1281
01:09:13,320 --> 01:09:15,280
Speaker 2: where you have to get the perfect amount to hit

1282
01:09:15,400 --> 01:09:16,200
Speaker 2: in the right direction.

1283
01:09:16,840 --> 01:09:20,360
Speaker 1: Their guy is like, I'm not gonna be extorted, fuck you.

1284
01:09:20,800 --> 01:09:23,600
Speaker 1: And meanwhile the gang is in like another greenhouse and

1285
01:09:23,640 --> 01:09:26,519
Speaker 1: their clown's just like, I'm bunding this, burn this shit down.

1286
01:09:27,640 --> 01:09:31,240
Speaker 1: So then clown starts a fire in the in the

1287
01:09:31,280 --> 01:09:33,679
Speaker 1: green room and she's like in the greenhouse and she's

1288
01:09:33,720 --> 01:09:36,559
Speaker 1: like burning all the shit because the CEO was refusing

1289
01:09:36,560 --> 01:09:38,800
Speaker 1: to sign a contract. And Parker's like, well, what if

1290
01:09:38,840 --> 01:09:40,000
Speaker 1: we destroy your whole company?

1291
01:09:40,080 --> 01:09:45,360
Speaker 2: Right seewhile I thought it was interesting, Yeah, why, Like

1292
01:09:45,439 --> 01:09:48,960
Speaker 2: he literally like just offers them a check. He's like,

1293
01:09:49,080 --> 01:09:51,880
Speaker 2: I know what you're doing. Just take this fucking chet

1294
01:09:52,200 --> 01:09:55,280
Speaker 2: and just leave. I would have taken it. In that case, Parker,

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Speaker 2: he has the he's got you like just take the check. No,

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Speaker 2: they need the money. They need the no you know,

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Speaker 2: the no show jobs. Like sure, So the building is

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Speaker 2: locked down. That's all that mattens.

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Speaker 1: Well, here's my question. So the late rereason laser gets

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Speaker 1: too hot and the alarm system senses that there's weaponry

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Speaker 1: and stuff going on. Why didn't clowns fire trigger.

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Speaker 2: The I know, I couldn't. I couldn't walk that out

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Speaker 2: whether it was like because it was a huge fire.

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01:10:26,600 --> 01:10:30,040
Speaker 2: But also it does get shut down, like I don't know,

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Speaker 2: I don't know how this place works. I didn't even

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01:10:32,120 --> 01:10:34,519
Speaker 2: know what this man's business is. Honestly, they should have

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Speaker 2: left him alone.

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Speaker 1: So the building's now locked down, and it's like filling

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Speaker 1: with more gas more like carbon DIACs are gas to

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01:10:41,640 --> 01:10:45,400
Speaker 1: make everybody go to see Parker is hearing voices that

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01:10:45,439 --> 01:10:49,080
Speaker 1: they are telling him to do the ceo. The CEO

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Speaker 1: pulls a pistol and now there's a fight, which is

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Speaker 1: kind of cool. Hood is disappearing and reappearing, and then

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Speaker 1: he invisible kills the CEO as re rewatches. She does

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Speaker 1: like get to cut all the way through the hood,

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Speaker 1: like she cuts like eighty percent. She yeah, and before

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Speaker 1: he disappears and so she can't get the rest of it. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 1: the rest of the gang is trapped in the labs,

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01:11:12,600 --> 01:11:17,080
Speaker 1: only Jonathan and the Ironheart armorycking Jonathan.

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Speaker 2: Jonathan fucking Jonathan.

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Speaker 1: So Jonathan Hood is now taking out cars left and right,

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Speaker 1: re re orders Natalie. She's like, rescue the rest of

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Speaker 1: the crew, don't worry about me. I can get out

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01:11:27,520 --> 01:11:30,320
Speaker 1: on my own. Natalie's like no, but then it is convinced.

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Speaker 1: So Rey is escaping through the labs. She runs into

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Speaker 1: Jonathan and Jonathan and Jonathan is like, why aren't you

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01:11:42,720 --> 01:11:44,240
Speaker 1: in your suit? I thought you were in your suit

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01:11:44,320 --> 01:11:46,080
Speaker 1: up there, And also like, what is that in your hand?

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01:11:46,120 --> 01:11:48,519
Speaker 1: Is that a piece of the hood? The leather piece

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Speaker 1: of the hood.

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01:11:49,880 --> 01:11:53,960
Speaker 2: She accuses him of killing Rampage and they fight and

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01:11:54,000 --> 01:11:56,360
Speaker 2: he's like, yeah, I did kill him. Yeah he was

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01:11:56,400 --> 01:11:59,920
Speaker 2: that even a secret? Yeah what are you talking about?

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01:12:00,040 --> 01:12:02,759
Speaker 2: Course I can kill the guys. This whole show.

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Speaker 1: Re re loses her biomesh patch, she loses the I

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Speaker 1: think loses the piece of the hood leather doesn't.

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01:12:08,880 --> 01:12:11,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, well I don't. I don't know about that. She did,

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01:12:11,560 --> 01:12:14,559
Speaker 2: hilariously just randomly pick it up off the side maybe

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01:12:14,560 --> 01:12:16,880
Speaker 2: she doesn't. I'm invisible, so maybe she does have it.

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Speaker 2: But I'm going to say something, Uh, describe what you

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01:12:20,000 --> 01:12:22,720
Speaker 2: think happened next, because I think I think it's a

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01:12:22,800 --> 01:12:24,919
Speaker 2: more brutal read than you realize.

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01:12:25,000 --> 01:12:30,920
Speaker 1: Well, I think what happens is Okay, so the HQ

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01:12:31,160 --> 01:12:36,080
Speaker 1: is filling with gas that's making everybody suffocate. Natalie comes in,

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01:12:36,200 --> 01:12:39,799
Speaker 1: puts rear the armor, and she flies off, leaving Jonathan

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01:12:39,840 --> 01:12:41,080
Speaker 1: to die, to.

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Speaker 2: Die, Yes, no, no, I think you're right. I think

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01:12:43,360 --> 01:12:47,200
Speaker 2: you're right. She kills Jonathan like they could have said.

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01:12:47,240 --> 01:12:50,000
Speaker 2: He puts his hand out and he's like help man. Yeah,

1350
01:12:50,040 --> 01:12:52,559
Speaker 2: but they're like you know about you know that.

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01:12:52,720 --> 01:12:56,759
Speaker 1: I'm like, you guys are also murdering people.

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01:12:57,000 --> 01:12:58,240
Speaker 2: But also.

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01:12:59,439 --> 01:13:03,479
Speaker 1: I think this was I think, yeah, this was a weird.

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01:13:03,920 --> 01:13:06,240
Speaker 1: This is another weird one. It would have been cool

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Speaker 1: if like she's like, no, save Jonathan, Natalie, and Natalie

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01:13:09,479 --> 01:13:11,760
Speaker 1: is like no.

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Speaker 2: No, yeah, yea yeah, yeah yeah yeah. Also, oh, Natalie.

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01:13:13,520 --> 01:13:15,960
Speaker 2: If Natalie has said to her like, well remember how

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01:13:15,960 --> 01:13:18,120
Speaker 2: he like smashed clown's head against the thing and he

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01:13:18,240 --> 01:13:20,880
Speaker 2: killed rampage, Like does he need to be saved? But

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01:13:20,960 --> 01:13:23,559
Speaker 2: instead Reby just makes that choice. She just you know what,

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Speaker 2: I'm not gonna miss Jonathan. I don't think she made

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01:13:26,280 --> 01:13:29,000
Speaker 2: a terrible choice. This was but you know, I will say, well,

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Speaker 2: this is really so Jonathan said not to go.

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Speaker 1: It's on Parker, and I agree with you. I'm not

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01:13:34,520 --> 01:13:37,000
Speaker 1: gonna miss Jonathan. I think Jonathan's a bad guy. I

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Speaker 1: do find it weird that the prime here's the issue.

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Speaker 1: The primary reason that Rory kills this guy is because

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Speaker 1: she doesn't want him rat turn out.

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Speaker 2: Yes, so that up with all the rime, all the ratting,

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Speaker 2: too much ratting.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So back home, she realizes she lost the biomesh

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Speaker 1: which will get trace back to Joe, and she has

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01:13:58,240 --> 01:14:01,800
Speaker 1: another panic attack bark. Parker's back at the HQ, and

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Speaker 1: he's like furious that this heist has gone sideways and

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Speaker 1: that Jonathan is dead. He's screaming and whoever gave him

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01:14:08,479 --> 01:14:12,160
Speaker 1: his magic? I trusted you and it's gone badly and

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01:14:12,560 --> 01:14:13,599
Speaker 1: what have you done?

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Speaker 2: And he sees a vision, like a magic vy brutal, scary.

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01:14:18,400 --> 01:14:22,360
Speaker 1: Brutal vision of Jonathan's suffering, suffocating to deathn't like reaching

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01:14:22,400 --> 01:14:25,360
Speaker 1: out for who we know is like Natalie and Reary

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01:14:25,400 --> 01:14:29,040
Speaker 1: to help him and Parker saying, why are you showing

1383
01:14:29,080 --> 01:14:31,040
Speaker 1: me this? And then all of a sudden, a demonic,

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01:14:31,280 --> 01:14:35,360
Speaker 1: very evil looking figure appears, and this is where I'm

1385
01:14:35,400 --> 01:14:36,800
Speaker 1: like this, it's fucking.

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01:14:36,640 --> 01:14:43,799
Speaker 2: Naturally, everyone's gonna be so sick of it after I'm like, guys,

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01:14:43,800 --> 01:14:45,720
Speaker 2: it's too late. I'm sorry to tell you that, but

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01:14:45,800 --> 01:14:48,000
Speaker 2: you know what, he's here. We've been talking about it

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Speaker 2: for five years, as the world has changed unbelievably. Am

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01:14:52,640 --> 01:14:55,400
Speaker 2: I still talking about it? Yeah? I also thought, I

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01:14:55,479 --> 01:14:59,759
Speaker 2: really I did like the visual like fust the shadowy

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01:14:59,760 --> 01:15:03,080
Speaker 2: figure kind of looks like re read because in the

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01:15:03,120 --> 01:15:06,160
Speaker 2: suit to kind of tell Parker like she killed him.

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01:15:06,400 --> 01:15:09,120
Speaker 2: And then you get yeah, And I mean, guys, you

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01:15:09,160 --> 01:15:14,000
Speaker 2: saw the little m outlined in red. You guys assumed.

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Speaker 2: Let's see. We'll be talking about it when the next

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01:15:16,920 --> 01:15:21,799
Speaker 2: three episodes drop. But it's looking high odds high odds

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01:15:22,280 --> 01:15:26,360
Speaker 2: high odds that Mephisto is finally round, because.

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Speaker 1: I think if you don't show him now, people are

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01:15:29,120 --> 01:15:30,799
Speaker 1: gonna be like, don't ever do this again.

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01:15:30,920 --> 01:15:33,439
Speaker 2: Don't do it again. It's been too many times, too

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01:15:33,439 --> 01:15:36,200
Speaker 2: many teasers, too many theories, of which I was many

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01:15:36,920 --> 01:15:37,519
Speaker 2: to blame for.

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01:15:37,720 --> 01:15:40,800
Speaker 1: Sorry, guys, but like, but yes it is. I think

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01:15:40,800 --> 01:15:41,320
Speaker 1: it's time.

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Speaker 2: I'm ready. And that's the first three episodes of iron Heart.

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01:15:47,240 --> 01:15:48,800
Speaker 2: You know what. I'm just so glad we did like

1408
01:15:48,840 --> 01:15:51,120
Speaker 2: a big deep dive into this, so you gotta do it.

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01:15:51,160 --> 01:15:52,920
Speaker 2: We gotta recap it, gotta talk about it, got to

1410
01:15:52,920 --> 01:15:55,040
Speaker 2: talk about how it works, how it doesn't work. And

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Speaker 2: I'm excited to see the next three episodes. And I mean,

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01:15:58,120 --> 01:15:59,840
Speaker 2: you see how slacked with people.

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01:16:00,200 --> 01:16:04,160
Speaker 1: Mephisto will I will I. We assume it's Mephisto, and

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01:16:04,200 --> 01:16:06,000
Speaker 1: I will be there to find out, like what's going

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01:16:06,040 --> 01:16:07,920
Speaker 1: on with that? Like, let's find out, Yeah, and what's

1416
01:16:07,960 --> 01:16:08,760
Speaker 1: going on with that guy?

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01:16:08,800 --> 01:16:11,200
Speaker 2: Man? Well, that's it for this episode.

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Speaker 1: Tomorrow and exhibition, we're checking in on some of the

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Speaker 1: movies we haven't had a chance to talk about so

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Speaker 1: far this year, this spring, this summer, including Final Destination, Bloodlines,

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01:16:20,200 --> 01:16:24,960
Speaker 1: and Wes Anderson's latest infotation scheme. That's it for this episode.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for listening. Bye.

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Speaker 1: X ray Vision is hosted by Jason Concepcion and Rosie

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Speaker 1: Night and is a production of iHeart Podcast.

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01:16:38,040 --> 01:16:42,000
Speaker 2: Our executive producers are Joel Menique and Aaron Kaufman. Our

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Speaker 2: supervising producer is Abu safar. Our producers are Common, Laurent

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Speaker 2: Dean Jonathan and Fay Wack.

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Speaker 1: Our theme song is by Brian Vasquez, with alternate theme

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Speaker 1: songs by Aaron Kaufman.

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Speaker 2: Special thanks to Saul Rubin, Chris Lord, Kenny Goodman and

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Speaker 2: Heidi Our discorded moderate the