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Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus

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Speaker 1: Bo Bishop and Nathan Zegura.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's are live on a first Friday edition

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Speaker 2: of Cleveland Brown's Daily. We're presented by Bally Bette, official

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Speaker 2: I am merely Bo. He is the great z Z.

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Speaker 2: Why don't you tell us in all of the words

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Speaker 2: that you have your life story starting with your first memories.

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Speaker 3: I think that'd be a good idea. I think that'd

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Speaker 3: be a really good idea.

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Speaker 2: I mean, just like, do like an hour straight? This

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Speaker 2: an hour straight, purple stack it, next level, two o'clock,

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Speaker 2: next levels, next c on down the road.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I had a feeling this was coming for you because

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Speaker 2: yesterday it was starting to sneak in. But this, this

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Speaker 2: is you are doing God's work. Yeah, that's what I

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Speaker 2: would say. You do and I love you. I mean,

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Speaker 2: if you're not here, then I'm solo. So two more

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Speaker 2: hours just knocking it out. I mean, that's a lot.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate you.

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Speaker 3: I should be.

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Speaker 5: I think I don't know what tomorrow will bring, but

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Speaker 5: I've I'm gonna get to I'm gonna get us.

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Speaker 2: I think you're going to get to three. I think

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Speaker 2: you're the key to this for you is going to

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Speaker 2: be you got your tea? Do you have some honey

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Speaker 2: in there?

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Speaker 3: Honey? Of course?

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Speaker 2: You know the great jade that those cough drops that

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Speaker 2: she gave me were extraordinary.

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Speaker 3: Those are the honey.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, those were That's what I just tackul her.

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Speaker 2: I got she gets she said it like the exact

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Speaker 2: brand of this thing. No, I got some of those

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Speaker 2: guys too, but there's more. Those guys are a little

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Speaker 2: kind of a little bit chewing. They got a ginger

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Speaker 2: to them. There was another pack that she put me

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Speaker 2: onto that was absolutely money and and was was very helpful.

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Speaker 2: So I do that and then I go, I go

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Speaker 2: hot water. I put the honey in the hot water

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Speaker 2: as I'm heating it. Yeah, that's I of course, so

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Speaker 2: that it mixes with the water. And then heavy lemon

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Speaker 2: squeeze on top.

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Speaker 3: So I got this is a lemon tea. Yeah, And

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Speaker 3: We're gonna do the best we can.

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Speaker 2: You're gonna labor, You're gonna get through it, buddy. That's all.

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Speaker 2: That's all we can do on a first Friday this

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Speaker 2: time of year. How about you when you're staring down

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Speaker 2: the barrel of this bleakness.

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Speaker 3: By the way, I have to share something with you

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Speaker 3: that please.

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Speaker 5: Bet my mom didn't the official Nana, the official Nana.

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Speaker 5: So I've obviously been talking a great deal about severans. Yes,

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Speaker 5: so Nana was all about.

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Speaker 2: It to watch, to watch it? Does it fit her showfile?

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Speaker 3: She loves it?

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Speaker 2: Okay, okay, because it's so.

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Speaker 5: The characters are so rich, the acting is superb, and

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Speaker 5: it's so cerebral and makes upon her, honestly a lot

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Speaker 5: of kind of like life questions.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: So she you know, watches it on her iPad when

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Speaker 5: she's at our house, so she uses like her account

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Speaker 5: from times or use our accounts.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, because we got the construction going on, so she's,

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Speaker 5: you know, house manager, she's overseeen so she's great at that.

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Speaker 3: I bet it's tremendous.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, really, I would, That's who I would I would

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Speaker 2: want if I ever do any of that, I might

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Speaker 2: bring her in as a guesthouse manager.

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Speaker 3: I think she she'd be open. She's got I mean

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Speaker 3: with dogs, reasonable rates, very good dogs. Yeah, very good

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Speaker 3: with dogs. She goes, oh, no, I was hoping you

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Speaker 3: wouldn't tell it me. She's already listen. I'm going and

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Speaker 5: So, because we're on the shared account a lot of

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Speaker 5: times when you go, or because she's watching it at

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Speaker 2: Of course, yeah, what's next? Feed us another one?

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Speaker 5: So oh no, we're all the way caught up, okay,

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Speaker 5: and now we have to wait till Friday, which I'm like,

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Speaker 5: so mad, this is the first Friday.

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Speaker 3: Uh huh. She's in season one.

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Speaker 5: And she comes over and tells me to she watched,

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Speaker 5: oh no, the second to most recent episodes two, which is,

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Speaker 5: by the way, a monster episode with major ski Major.

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Speaker 5: So I say to her, how does this? How does

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Speaker 5: this happen? I said, didn't you notice, like on the

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Speaker 5: previously on that you hadn't seen any of it?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: She's like, oh I skip those.

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Speaker 2: Nana.

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Speaker 5: Oh no, I said, do you realize they put those

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Speaker 5: together for you for two reasons? One if somehow you

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Speaker 5: were to end up And this is probably one percent

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Speaker 5: of the one hundred percent of the reasons they do this.

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Speaker 5: The one percent is, hey, if you're not paying attention

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Speaker 5: and somehow it got the wrong episode, you're gonna say,

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Speaker 5: wait a second, I haven't seen any of this. I

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Speaker 5: need to go back. The ninety nine percent reason is

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Speaker 5: they're saying, hey, this is a show where basically every

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Speaker 5: detail in the forty two minutes is important, and you

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Speaker 5: have to pay attention to all of it, and you

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Speaker 5: might not remember every single thing. So we're going to

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Speaker 5: like hit you with the five to ten big moments

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Speaker 5: that have happened prior to this episode that will prepare

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Speaker 5: you for the episode. Like it's they're doing good work

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Speaker 5: for your benefit as a viewer, and they remember this. Yes,

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Speaker 5: what is a complex story? Like, oh, I just skipped

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Speaker 5: those I'm like, so you watched an entire episode. I said,

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Speaker 5: we're talking major twists.

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Speaker 3: Major skipped.

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Speaker 2: So what's she gonna do.

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Speaker 3: Is she's going back to watch to watch it to

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Speaker 3: catch up. Yeah, but I'm like I was.

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Speaker 2: It's going to change totally your viewing experience, because I.

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Speaker 5: Said, there is at the end of this episode there

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Speaker 5: was a monster moment.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it has full edge of the seat tension.

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Speaker 5: And then after that another monster moment that has great

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Speaker 5: it's almost like a middle of the season finale in

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Speaker 3: She's even gotten into that season at all? Yes? What is?

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Speaker 2: Have you ever had a show that you either weren't

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Speaker 5: Never on my own for example, for some reason, and

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Speaker 5: the very first scene of the Yeah, immediately we're like,

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Speaker 2: Shut it down, shut down. Yeah, that's that's happened before.

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Speaker 2: That'll happen. If I'm too behind, they will. Yeah, whoa, whoa, whoa,

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Speaker 2: What's exactly what happened? That ain't that's not it. I

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Speaker 3: I saw them in snow and I'm like, that's let's

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Speaker 2: I had so I.

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Speaker 5: Was like I was like, man, I'm mad at you

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Speaker 5: right now because this show is probably just unfortunate.

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Speaker 2: It's I feel bad. I feel terrible for her that

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Speaker 2: that happened. Had she it's a little bit of self inflicted.

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Speaker 3: You got to watch love.

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Speaker 2: We love her the best, but I think I love

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Speaker 2: her to death. But I think and I'd love her

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Speaker 2: to be CFO of the house anytime I have any

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Speaker 3: I think she would.

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Speaker 2: But I but I think.

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Speaker 3: She'd be honored to be your house manager.

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Speaker 2: I would I would love for her to be house managers.

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Speaker 3: Great at it.

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Speaker 2: I know she would be great at it. I would

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Speaker 2: say that that that unfortunately that you you've got to

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Speaker 2: watch those that that's they're there for a reason. They're

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Speaker 2: there because there's I'm guessing the show is so I

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Speaker 2: haven't started. I think we're going to start it tonight.

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Speaker 2: We watched White Load this last night, so I think

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Speaker 2: we're going to start it tonight. But it feels like

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Speaker 2: it's so there's so many layers to it. It was

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Speaker 2: but I mean Thrones had so many layers every episode,

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Speaker 3: One when this that's why you need those?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you need that, you need it. The one that

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Speaker 2: got ruined for me, And I think we're long past

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Speaker 2: the point of this being a spoiler for anybody. But

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Speaker 2: if you haven't seen Game of Thrones by now, you're

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Speaker 2: not going to watch it. Like, not my problem. The

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Speaker 2: Purple Wedding was ruined for me in the sense that

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Speaker 2: I at the time when Thrones was on, I was

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Speaker 2: them late like you started them at nine. They were

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Speaker 2: to even dare because people would text you, you'd see

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Speaker 2: And unfortunately, I was also doing a lot of the episode.

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Speaker 2: I would read like the episode recaps that were done,

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Speaker 2: like the Guys at the Ring or Grantline. I think

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Speaker 2: at the time that one guy and ultate Jason Ancepcion

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Speaker 2: and incredible breakdowns and you're like, oh my god, I

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Speaker 2: didn't know anything about that. Yeah, But the issue that

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Speaker 2: not spoiled and was as shocking a thing as I've

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Speaker 2: ever seen on television in real time, that someone made

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Speaker 2: a comment in one of their recaps, like in the

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Speaker 2: comments after the recaps it said, waited they see the

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Speaker 2: purple wedding? So then I knew something something was happening,

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Speaker 2: and so that one. Now my wife didn't, so I

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Speaker 2: watched that through her prism and the sheer joy of

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Speaker 2: her watching him choke to death on his own wine.

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Speaker 3: It was a lot of fun.

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Speaker 2: But that was that was kind of ruined a little

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Speaker 3: So yeah, I could see all that I could.

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Speaker 2: See where I read a comment, it wasn't anything. I

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Speaker 2: just should have just stopped reading, you know, once I

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Speaker 5: Yeah, So I've it's good, actually good point, and so

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Speaker 5: I've been enjoying like the Vulture recaps.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they do a great job.

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Speaker 3: So two things.

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Speaker 5: One is the most fascinating thing that's ever happened in

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Speaker 5: Pure evil. So that's what I always immediate associate him.

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Speaker 2: nineteen eighty nine. Interesting, so there must be something about

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Speaker 2: and people that.

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Speaker 5: Has one where people like to throw parties for ith.

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Speaker 2: So it's I think there's that, and I think it's

443
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Speaker 2: a window into a world most aren't familiar totally. I

444
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Speaker 2: think that's why when you watch a show like White

445
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Speaker 2: Lotus or we watched you watch Landman. Like. One of

446
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Speaker 2: the things that I found so fascinating about Landman, aside

447
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Speaker 2: from Billy Bob and his performance, was It's a world

448
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Speaker 2: I'm completely unfamiliar with. I've never been to West Texas.

449
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Speaker 2: I have no idea how oil and gas boomtowns work.

450
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Speaker 2: I don't understand the economics of it. I don't understand

451
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Speaker 2: other than it's big business. I don't understand the day

452
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Speaker 2: to day And same thing with like when you go

453
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Speaker 2: to these when you I've never been to a Four

454
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Speaker 2: Seasons in Sicily, I've not been to the Four Seasons

455
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Speaker 2: in Thailand, so like what comes with that? Or even

456
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Speaker 2: when they went with the when Tanya went with the

457
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Speaker 2: boys onto the mainland where they were in where were

458
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Speaker 2: they Anapoli or whatever.

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Speaker 3: They went when they went on.

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Speaker 2: The boat or what. Yeah, you're like, I'm like, wow,

461
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Speaker 2: that's a world that you've never seen. So I think

462
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Speaker 2: and that's the thing I think probably the Derby does

463
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Speaker 2: is it gives you this window into this world that

464
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Speaker 2: that you haven't seen, that a lot of people haven't seen,

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Speaker 2: you know, kind of the glamour or whatever that comes

466
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Speaker 2: with it. You've been haven't you done the Derby?

467
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Speaker 3: I've never been to the Derby.

468
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Speaker 2: No, No, I think if I think there's only two

469
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Speaker 2: ways to go ultra privilege, ultra privilege like big time

470
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Speaker 2: privilege or steerage like infield. Let's drink and have a

471
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Speaker 2: good time and be in the middle and go nuts.

472
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Speaker 2: There is no middle class. There's not even an upper

473
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Speaker 2: middle class at the Derby. Like all of that is brutal,

474
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Speaker 2: obstructed views and and all of that. Daytona five hundred's fun. Sure,

475
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Speaker 2: it's fun. I've not done Indy. No, yeah, I've not

476
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Speaker 2: done that at all. We have a little bit of

477
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Speaker 2: football news. We've terminated the contract of running back Naheim Hines.

478
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Speaker 2: He was so charismatic when he was in here with.

479
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Speaker 5: Us, right and hopefully you know he was a guy

480
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Speaker 5: if you remember, had business acumen and ventually I would

481
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Speaker 5: say it was a boat jingles.

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Speaker 2: I think was that what it was?

483
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Speaker 5: But he he seems like a very smart guy who

484
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Speaker 5: will be able to.

485
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Speaker 3: Laying on his feet.

486
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Speaker 2: Yeah, he was easy.

487
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Speaker 5: It worked in the bye week in preparation for owning

488
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Speaker 5: restaurants in the shape. So that's his post football plan.

489
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Speaker 5: So at least he's got that, uh and hopefully he

490
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Speaker 5: can uh he can do it. Yeah, very nice. Guys

491
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Speaker 5: just said that. Man, that had to be a heck

492
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Speaker 5: of a jet ski accident. I mean that was in.

493
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Speaker 2: Oh my god, that's right.

494
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Speaker 3: There was two seasons ago.

495
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Speaker 5: The jet ski cost him the entire twenty three season

496
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Speaker 5: and the twenty four God, that's.

497
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Speaker 2: Right, it was the it was on the Jets key

498
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Speaker 2: that that went.

499
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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that sucks man.

501
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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, brutal. I mean, let's and he will always be.

502
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Speaker 5: Very good talented player, good runner, good returner, was with

503
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Speaker 5: a good receiver, was with Indy, and he was the

504
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Speaker 5: one who ran back the opening kick after the Damar

505
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Speaker 5: Hamlin scare. It's the very next Bills game that he

506
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Speaker 5: that they played. He ran that opening kickback. Yeah, he

507
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Speaker 5: may have run two back in that game.

508
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Speaker 2: As a man, I think you might be right. I

509
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Speaker 2: think it was too The g man is shaking his head.

510
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Speaker 5: Yes, affirmative, affirmative, Yeah, January, if he's got it so.

511
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Speaker 2: Twenty twenty three, Yeah, no, he was easy to ruin

512
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Speaker 2: it also. I mean it's the football mortality, all right.

513
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Speaker 2: I mean you think about these guys who we've had

514
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Speaker 2: in in the last few years. Who they come in

515
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Speaker 2: and you think big impact. Why am I blanking the

516
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Speaker 2: receiver two years ago?

517
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Speaker 4: No?

518
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Speaker 2: No, no, the other one and he got hurt in camp.

519
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Speaker 2: Not Chickim Grant. He's a great example, but that's not

520
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Speaker 2: the one I was thinking of.

521
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Speaker 3: It was.

522
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Speaker 2: It was during mini camp. Marquis Goodwin nailed it. Good one,

523
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Speaker 2: good one. We were like god, he took the top off,

524
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Speaker 2: like he gave you just an he gave you just

525
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Speaker 2: a lit little something different than.

526
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Speaker 3: The vertical dimension.

527
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Speaker 4: Yeah.

528
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Speaker 5: Well, Jakim Grant came to us to revive our return

529
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Speaker 5: game after being an All Pro and Pro Bowl returner,

530
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Speaker 5: tore his knee in a joint practice and a receiver drill.

531
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Speaker 5: I want say against the Giants, it seems works his way,

532
00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:18,760
Speaker 5: misses the whole season, works his way back, and then

533
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Speaker 5: in the preseason finale against Kansas City, that's the first

534
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Speaker 5: action he's gotten, takes a kick return and.

535
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Speaker 3: Tears it again.

536
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Speaker 2: Yeah that's it. And then he never played a sap No, no, no,

537
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Speaker 2: and good on, good played. Yeah it wasn't it a

538
00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:34,560
Speaker 2: was it a blood?

539
00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:36,800
Speaker 3: Blood clots, blood clots, that's right.

540
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Speaker 2: But like we came out of Mini camp. I remember

541
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Speaker 2: I was gone, gone, I had. We were at Gibby's

542
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Speaker 2: house at the location, Gibby's cottage.

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Speaker 3: You would have loved that, been thriving.

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Speaker 2: Are you aware of that? Have you heard as Gibby

545
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Speaker 2: told you the tales of his product the fireside chats.

546
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Speaker 6: I've seen him.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, dude, you can't even wrap your head

548
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Speaker 2: around how much Gibby loved that. It might it was

549
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Speaker 2: like it was own personal Yeah, I mean, it was

550
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Speaker 2: content factory.

551
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Speaker 3: It was like a vacation hot tent factory.

552
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Speaker 2: He had his spotted cows in the fridge. He had

553
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Speaker 2: all these snacks, beers, gummy bears, hot dogs, burgers.

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Speaker 3: I think he was like, hey, I think he was

555
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Speaker 3: there a lot more than we know.

556
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Speaker 2: Was Givvy Hope on vacation. No, he was in the cottage, cottage,

557
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Speaker 2: he's here, he had the access to He loved it

558
00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:31,879
Speaker 2: so excited, so excited. Yeah, you were, you were gone

559
00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:34,359
Speaker 2: that because we had Kevin. Kevin came and joined me

560
00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:39,000
Speaker 2: for a fireside chat. You were on vacation, and then

561
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Speaker 2: he came over at the end of the minting and

562
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Speaker 2: it was like I remember going like I text you him, like, dude,

563
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Speaker 2: this is not good, not great.

564
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Speaker 3: But then he was able to come back. He was clicked.

565
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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's there. The mortality of it is it's so fragile, man.

566
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Speaker 2: That's it's such a fragile thing. All right. Those are

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Speaker 2: We also have the NFL has informed teams of the

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Speaker 2: today Dan Graziano. With this, The NFL informed teams today

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Speaker 2: that the twenty twenty five per team salary cap will

585
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Speaker 2: fall in the range of two seventy seven point five

586
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Speaker 2: to two eighty one point five. It is way up

587
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Speaker 2: from last year, which was two fifty five point four.

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00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:18,639
Speaker 2: The cap will increased by more than fifty three million

589
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Speaker 2: over the last two years alone. So that's helpful.

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Speaker 5: We still have someone so helpful for everybody though, right, Like,

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Speaker 5: that's helpful for the Bengals wanting to keep their nucleus together.

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Speaker 3: It's helpful for a lot of people.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Field Yates. The teams that have obviously a bunch

594
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Speaker 2: of room are New England, the Raiders and the Commis,

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Speaker 2: and they should. They got to act right now if

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Speaker 2: you're them, Like, now is the time rookie contract perform

597
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Speaker 2: better than you thought. Go all in. The Saints, US

598
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Speaker 2: and the Bills have a little bit of work to do.

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Speaker 2: But of course, as we talked with Andrew Berry last

600
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Speaker 2: year at the NFL Scouting Combine, which we will do

601
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Speaker 2: next next week, they are three to five years out

602
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Speaker 2: on all of these things that are pretty locked in

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Speaker 2: in terms of what the cap can be or will

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Speaker 2: not be.

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Speaker 3: Yep, all right.

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Speaker 2: The Chargers are going to open the twenty twenty five

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Speaker 2: season in South Paulo as the NFL returns to Brazil.

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Speaker 2: They'll be the designated home team international games and their

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Speaker 2: designated home teams are now locked in as follows. Chargers

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Speaker 2: in Brazil, Jets and US in London, Colts in Berlin,

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Speaker 2: London at Wembley, US and the Jets are at Tottenham Hotspur.

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Speaker 2: What is the is the Obviously you want to expand

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Speaker 2: to markets. How can we chase more eyeballs? How can

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Speaker 2: we make more revenue? Where can we find it? Will

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Speaker 2: go around the globe to do it. We know there's

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Speaker 2: a game in Australia with the Rams that's coming in

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty six, I think in Melbourne, so you know

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Speaker 2: those things are happening. So then beyond that, the goal

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Speaker 2: is to sow seeds of your league around the globe.

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Speaker 2: The way that this could come into effect in a

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Speaker 2: big way soon is via the Netflix operation. So there

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Speaker 2: was reporting yesterday that Netflix is could be interested in purchasing.

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Speaker 2: So the current Sunday afternoon schedule is locked in till

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Speaker 2: twenty thirty three. The NFL can opt out in twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty nine is when they can opt out, four years

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Speaker 2: before it's done. But the reporting that I was reading

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Speaker 2: from Supports Business Journal was they want to buy the

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Speaker 2: contract from either CBS or Fox, that they may want

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Speaker 2: to entertain that and they would have the capital to

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Speaker 2: do it.

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Speaker 5: So the reason I think you're seeing this is because

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Speaker 5: of the success of Netflix's deal for ww RAW, because

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Speaker 5: you can speak.

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Speaker 2: To that more than me.

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Speaker 5: Is that Global Global live, globally live, and so I

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Speaker 5: think once they saw that that was capable and they

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Speaker 5: were able to do that, and that it's been watched

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Speaker 5: around the globe and you know people are watching it,

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Speaker 5: and they tried it with Wasn't that the the Jake

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Speaker 5: Paul was at Netflix.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was Jake Paul. Mike Tyson was Netflix. They've

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Speaker 2: done like some live comedy stuff like the Mulaney did,

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Speaker 2: like Everyone's in LA show that was live, like they've

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Speaker 2: done I think Chris Rock maybe did a live one.

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Speaker 5: So this actually gives them an aptop. I don't believe

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Speaker 5: and correct me if I'm wrong. But I don't believe

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Speaker 5: that they have the ability. You know, a game that's

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Speaker 5: on Fox shown around the world.

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Speaker 2: No, you would. I mean it's probably some around but

652
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Speaker 2: in terms of like globally and everywhere.

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Speaker 3: No live in one place.

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Speaker 2: No, it's different, different avenues around the globe because they

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Speaker 2: have different rights have been sold.

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Speaker 5: I think that's what they see and they man, you know,

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Speaker 5: part of it is growing the game.

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Speaker 3: And now we're in you know, in Brazil, We're going to.

659
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:09,640
Speaker 5: Australia, We've got England, We've got Spain, we're going to Ireland,

660
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 5: We've got Germany, all of these places. Now, time is

661
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 5: obviously an issue, but there is a world in which

662
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 5: they can sit there and just everybody in the world

663
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 5: can watch a football game at the same time.

664
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 2: Yeah.

665
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:24,719
Speaker 3: They did it with on Christmas.

666
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, they did it with the Christmas game, which looked great.

667
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:29,960
Speaker 2: They seemed fine. Yeah, yeah, there wasn't I didn't have

668
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 2: any issues.

669
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 3: There was coming out of the Christmas game. Something like

670
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 3: one out of every.

671
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:37,240
Speaker 2: Nielsen said it ended up being like sixty four or

672
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, twenty four million was what Nielsen said. Now,

673
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 2: I don't know what was that you give that local

674
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 2: or global global, but that that that Netflix claimed it

675
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 2: was more like sixty.

676
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 5: Didn't they say at one point like one out of

677
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 5: every three.

678
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:51,959
Speaker 2: Yeah, there was there.

679
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 3: There are some big numbers.

680
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:55,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, there were some big numbers thrown around. I think

681
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 2: inevitably what you would I would not be sid I

682
00:31:57,880 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 2: shouldn't say I think this is gonna happen. I just

683
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:01,480
Speaker 2: said I should say, won't be surprised. I would not

684
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 2: be surprised if Netflix, Amazon, Apple, YouTube TV Slash Google.

685
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 2: I would not at all be surprised if they just

686
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 2: buy a networkout, like if they just buy CBS, CBS

687
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 2: or NBC. I mean CBS is part of Paramount obviously,

688
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:21,680
Speaker 2: so it's a huge conglomerate that you're gonna have to

689
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 2: deal with. But like, would you be surprised to see Netflix,

690
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 2: I would not at all be surprised to see Amazon

691
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 2: buy NBC. That would not shock me. And then you

692
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 2: could stream it on Amazon Prime and you could still

693
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 2: put it over the air. One thing we know NFL

694
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 2: owners still really appreciate they've stayed loyal to the networks.

695
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:45,640
Speaker 2: They dip their toe in the streamers, but they won't

696
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 2: go too quick. Yeah, because you have to still be

697
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:52,719
Speaker 2: available to everybody, has to be able to see it.

698
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:55,480
Speaker 2: There's still there's a currency to that that. While it

699
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 2: is not a physical currency, there's an emotional currency.

700
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 3: Attacks in the NFL regular seasons now pay to watch.

701
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 2: It's pay to play. Yeah, absolutely, yep. And I don't

702
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 2: think you're ready for that yet. I would. I think

703
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 2: that would be. And I think they know that. They've

704
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 2: been very savvy about making sure that they are over

705
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 2: the air available.

706
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 3: Bulls and bears make money, Pigs get slaughtered.

707
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 6: That's it.

708
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 3: So you got to be you have to be careful.

709
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 5: But I do think that's part of what this whole

710
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:27,720
Speaker 5: international expansion is about, is doing that. I could also

711
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 5: see a world in which, if they do this international expansion,

712
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 5: or like the traditional one four eight becomes eleven of

713
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 5: course two, then that afternoon game is actually eight o'clock

714
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:44,600
Speaker 5: prime time in London and in you know, I think

715
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:46,959
Speaker 5: you could see that shift.

716
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 2: You could you could get to a scenario where honestly,

717
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 2: you're playing an NFL game at nine am. Another set

718
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 2: of games kicks off, isn't it now nine to one

719
00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:00,200
Speaker 2: four eight? You could even if you now the only

720
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:02,040
Speaker 2: thing is on the back end like to get like

721
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 2: the US, it's almost too far. You're gonna have to

722
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 2: front load it. You're not backloading it. I think eight

723
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:09,360
Speaker 2: o'clock's probably the last kick time you're gonna have. I

724
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:11,759
Speaker 2: suppose you could go ten. You can do a ten o'clock.

725
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 5: Kick, and they've done fine with those kicking at seven

726
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:15,200
Speaker 5: am in the West Coast.

727
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 3: Yeah.

728
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:18,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, And you could do a ten pm Eastern kick,

729
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:21,920
Speaker 2: which would be a seven Pacific kick. You could do

730
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:24,359
Speaker 2: that too. That's something college football is always held off.

731
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:26,279
Speaker 2: They haven't done it yet, but like the Big ten

732
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:29,439
Speaker 2: does not have a ten o'clock window that they've sold

733
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 2: in the pack pack twelve years, they could because they

734
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:33,839
Speaker 2: have four teams out there, so they could have one

735
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 2: of those teams play at ten o'clock every week and

736
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:37,799
Speaker 2: it would be fine. I think at some point they

737
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:39,799
Speaker 2: will do that once somebody wants to pay for it,

738
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:42,799
Speaker 2: so that's going to be part of it as well.

739
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:44,880
Speaker 2: But this is the most we've ever seen and the

740
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:48,319
Speaker 2: most diverse group of locations we've ever seen, to go

741
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:52,759
Speaker 2: everywhere from Spain to Germany to Brazil. We've done Len

742
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:56,440
Speaker 2: a lot, and then Ireland as well. That's a lot.

743
00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:57,880
Speaker 2: That's a lot going on.

744
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:02,399
Speaker 5: It is, by the way, I don't know if you've

745
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:05,239
Speaker 5: been keeping tabs on this. But the question we have

746
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:10,400
Speaker 5: to ask is will this even matter? NASA has increased

747
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:12,880
Speaker 5: the chance of a major asteroid smashing into Earth in

748
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:17,320
Speaker 5: twenty thirty two at three point one percent one in

749
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:19,880
Speaker 5: thirty two chances that this asteroid hits the Earth in

750
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 5: the year twenty thirty two, which is the highest that

751
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:22,440
Speaker 5: it's ever been.

752
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:24,279
Speaker 3: This is the highest percentage we've had.

753
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 2: So I would say, we better get on the line

754
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 2: with some drillers, and it's going, yep, you got you

755
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 2: got eight years to train them. Don't go get the

756
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:33,799
Speaker 2: astronauts and teach them how to be drillers. Go get

757
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:35,400
Speaker 2: the drillers and teach them how to be You got

758
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:35,839
Speaker 2: eight years.

759
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:36,279
Speaker 3: Eight years.

760
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:38,319
Speaker 2: This is even like thirty days. I mean, it's eight

761
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:41,560
Speaker 2: years to be able to train them to do it.

762
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 2: I mean, do you think you could do it in

763
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:43,720
Speaker 2: a month.

764
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:46,799
Speaker 5: So I think, though, since you have the eight years,

765
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 5: why not just train the astronauts to be the drillers.

766
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:53,279
Speaker 2: Too easy? Too easy, much easier. It's much easier to

767
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:57,400
Speaker 2: teach someone how to be an asteris an astronaut, right,

768
00:35:58,080 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 2: I think I surely eight days.

769
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 3: If we had eight days, that's what we're doing. With

770
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 3: eight years. I think we're got to become the drillers.

771
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 2: Maybe they could figure it out in that long take

772
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 2: that long. It's so complicated it.

773
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 6: Sen send Steve Carell's Space Force up there.

774
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:14,920
Speaker 3: By the way, just so you guys know this. This

775
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:15,840
Speaker 3: is a serious business.

776
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 5: Now they're saying it is not a dinosaur killer or

777
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 5: a planet killer. They said it's not a crisis at

778
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:22,920
Speaker 5: this point in time. This is dangerous for a city.

779
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 5: They do say that if it does hit, it would

780
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 5: release eight mega tons of energy on impact, five hundred

781
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 5: times the energy released by the atomic bomb that destroyed Hermy.

782
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:33,360
Speaker 2: How many times five hundred?

783
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:37,560
Speaker 3: That's problem problem one hundred and seventy seven diameter.

784
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 5: The large cities with the height they think it is,

785
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:42,800
Speaker 5: it is enough to wipe out an entire city completely.

786
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:45,359
Speaker 3: Sure the path cities in the path, which like how

787
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:45,760
Speaker 3: the old.

788
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:53,800
Speaker 5: Do they know seven years out are Bogata, Abbi Da John, Lagos, Kartom, Mumbai,

789
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 5: Kolkata and Dhaka.

790
00:36:55,960 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 2: So we're in the clear. We are America first, baby fun?

791
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 3: Yeah? Does that so far? The Gulf of American does

792
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:04,920
Speaker 3: not appear to be.

793
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 2: We got a long we got a long time to

794
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:10,360
Speaker 2: get it sorted out like this. Let's put every available

795
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 2: resource towards this, militarily like space forces is happening. Let's go.

796
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 2: You've got time. Come up with the plan. Boys.

797
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:20,480
Speaker 3: I think that that's right.

798
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:23,720
Speaker 5: I think that we we have the means.

799
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 2: No, let's go.

800
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 3: The iron dome. That thing's unbelievable, isn't it. It's unreal.

801
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:35,319
Speaker 5: But like we should maybe have like a world asteroid.

802
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 3: Dome that we could put together.

803
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:38,240
Speaker 6: It's like a case.

804
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:41,279
Speaker 5: You're not gonna no, but be it the ready, but

805
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:47,239
Speaker 5: have it five time. Yeah, no, that's not a joke,

806
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:49,440
Speaker 5: no joke at all.

807
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 2: Well, good news is we've got we've got seven years

808
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:55,160
Speaker 2: to get it done.

809
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 3: That's right. It's a good time.

810
00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 2: Good time, get a little bit of times. It'll be

811
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:04,439
Speaker 2: like me with homework. By then it'll be two months out,

812
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:06,880
Speaker 2: be like, oh, now we should probably get working on this.

813
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:09,960
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, well dude, you've had six years. I know,

814
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 2: but I thought I got busy stuff.

815
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:14,759
Speaker 3: Let's just get it out of the way.

816
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:16,719
Speaker 2: We need to knock this out right now. Let's knock

817
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 2: it out right now. We don't need to let's push

818
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:22,840
Speaker 2: down the road to dilliar dally. No, the Jets and

819
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:27,359
Speaker 2: Justin Fields have a mutual interest, all right, So.

820
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:32,359
Speaker 5: It's interesting they have a mutual interest. Makes a ton

821
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:34,399
Speaker 5: of sense to me. Garrett Wilson Probably that's a way

822
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:35,400
Speaker 5: to keep him happy.

823
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, that would be who's the o C there?

824
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:42,879
Speaker 2: We did it on our Aaron Glenn is your HC.

825
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, g man, I'm on it ac with the Jets.

826
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 2: I know we did Jets, but ib shoes and we

827
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 2: had him on last week, but I.

828
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:57,480
Speaker 7: Can't remember Tanner Engstrand, former Alliance passing game coordinator.

829
00:38:57,480 --> 00:38:59,759
Speaker 6: It was Nathaniel Hackett sure, and then.

830
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:02,799
Speaker 2: That one I knew. Okay, So he brought somebody with

831
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 2: him from Detroit.

832
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:05,959
Speaker 5: So that's interesting because that's gonna be Simil, that's gonna

833
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 5: be like Ben Johnson e more precision passing. Arthur Smith

834
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 5: apparently don't want him. Arthur Smith is You're gonna see

835
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 5: a lot of people linking people to quarterbacks of kind

836
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:19,719
Speaker 5: of that veteran style to us and the Steelers, because

837
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:23,960
Speaker 5: I think Arthur Smith and Kevin want similar things out

838
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 5: of their quarterbacks.

839
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 3: So now I've send. The Steelers are being linked to

840
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 3: Danny Dimes as well.

841
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:31,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, they've got what do you think happens with Russ

842
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 2: anything he goes to Vegas? Are are we just? I mean,

843
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:38,320
Speaker 2: that's the only two places I can see Aaron Rodgers

844
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 2: are Vegas and Pittsburgh.

845
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 5: He might be toast my ghost like of his own.

846
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:47,600
Speaker 5: I think people Jason Horowitz wants no part of him

847
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:50,400
Speaker 5: in Babas. I know he doesn't, but Jason.

848
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:52,839
Speaker 3: Type Tom Brady does. I don't know if Tom Brady

849
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:53,720
Speaker 3: wants Aaron Rodgers.

850
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:56,440
Speaker 2: I don't either. I don't either. But they have a

851
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:58,600
Speaker 2: lot of money that they can spend in on the cap.

852
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 2: They they could be aggressive. I mean you could. You

853
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:04,279
Speaker 2: could sign t Higgins and you could, you could try

854
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 2: to go that route.

855
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 3: And New England wants to Higgins, Well that's.

856
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:10,440
Speaker 2: Where Yeah, if you believe he believes in Drake May,

857
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 2: then that would make all the sense. But if to me,

858
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 2: Pete at seventy two is not someone who's gonna who

859
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:19,279
Speaker 2: wants to monkey around too much, I would imagine he

860
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:22,120
Speaker 2: want to try to bring somebody in there who he

861
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 2: could feels like he can win.

862
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:25,919
Speaker 5: You are starting the season regardless of really. I think

863
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 5: even what you do this offseason, you are starting the

864
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:31,960
Speaker 5: season as the fourth place predicted finish in that division.

865
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:41,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's one hundred percent. Yeah, that's tricky

866
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 2: we got going on here.

867
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:43,320
Speaker 3: It's the house manager.

868
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:46,880
Speaker 2: See, that wouldn't happen on Nana's watch. No, you're right,

869
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 2: believe that right below the ship. Shut that right now,

870
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:51,839
Speaker 2: go hammer sometime other than one to three. Guys, it's

871
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:55,319
Speaker 2: all you gotta do, is that coming off on the air.

872
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 2: Can you hear it on air? You can hear it

873
00:40:57,239 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 2: and hear I know we can. You can hear Kevin,

874
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 2: I can hear it? Okay, yeah, yeah, that's right below.

875
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:05,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, the contractors from Zagura's bathroom.

876
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 3: Probably no way.

877
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 2: Mitch would never and Nana would never allow. Nana would

878
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:12,319
Speaker 2: say not now, can't do it now. This from the

879
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 2: world of college football. The big ten in the SEC

880
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:18,440
Speaker 2: are meeting in New Orleans today discuss the future of

881
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 2: the sport is in simplest terms, what they're doing. Here's

882
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 2: what they're discussing. There's discussing fourteen teams or sixteen teams

883
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:31,360
Speaker 2: when they expand in twenty six. They're discussing automatic bids

884
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:34,360
Speaker 2: for the SEC and the Big ten minimum of four,

885
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:37,719
Speaker 2: which for each four SEC four Big ten. I said,

886
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 2: that's just the jumping off point, Like they're saying four

887
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 2: of ours get in automatically, and if more deserve it,

888
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:46,640
Speaker 2: then more get in. They're saying automatically for not only four.

889
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:49,319
Speaker 2: Like people don't even realize it's it's far far worse

890
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:51,239
Speaker 2: than people even think. People think it's just like, well,

891
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:53,279
Speaker 2: why do they get four automatically? No, they're getting four

892
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:56,359
Speaker 2: off the jump, and then if more deserve it, they

893
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:57,279
Speaker 2: will lobby.

894
00:41:56,960 --> 00:42:00,880
Speaker 3: For going to a two conference to super comfort probably.

895
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:04,279
Speaker 2: Get Yeah, So they're dealing with that, they're dealing with

896
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:05,759
Speaker 2: the Then they're dealing with what do we do with

897
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 2: conference championship games. They're dealing with a scheduling agreement between

898
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:13,359
Speaker 2: the SEC and the Big ten where Big ten, the

899
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:15,040
Speaker 2: SEC will go to nine conference games.

900
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:15,480
Speaker 3: Big ten is.

901
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 2: Already there, and then you will add one intra conference game.

902
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:22,799
Speaker 2: SEC teams play Big ten teams, so that'll be part

903
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 2: of it. So those are the things they're discussing. It's

904
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:28,759
Speaker 2: they're discussing the future of the sport. One thing that

905
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 2: I think they ought to discuss is the calendar. It's

906
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 2: broken right now the way college football is, and you

907
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:37,959
Speaker 2: cannot be They have it scheduled in twenty twenty seven.

908
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:40,440
Speaker 2: They gave the bid to Vegas is going to host

909
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:43,880
Speaker 2: the NCAA or that not the the College Football Playoff

910
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:46,760
Speaker 2: championship game. It is scheduled the Monday after the AFC

911
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 2: and NFC championship game. So you can't. You can't. They

912
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:53,440
Speaker 2: went after the divisional round. Can you imagine after the

913
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:58,959
Speaker 2: championship game You're gonna get lost? Why you're gone Friday? Well,

914
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:00,840
Speaker 2: for sure, do it Friday and then you have a chance.

915
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 2: But it's definitely not Monday. No, And that's awful. And

916
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:04,879
Speaker 2: I think they ought to be done with the whole

917
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:06,880
Speaker 2: thing by January ninth or tenth. There's no reason to

918
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:09,800
Speaker 2: play college football until the end of January. No, hopefully

919
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 2: they get the calendar fixed. I'm dubious to that. I'm

920
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:13,719
Speaker 2: sure they will find a way to make more money,

921
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:15,280
Speaker 2: which it will be creating more games.

922
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:16,440
Speaker 3: Of course.

923
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:20,280
Speaker 5: By the way, how about this Texas Tech nil Collective

924
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:23,520
Speaker 5: founder Cody Campbell, who is John Ham's character, I'm guessing,

925
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:27,640
Speaker 5: sold his oil and gas company for four point one billion. Yep,

926
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 5: they've already signed the top portal class in the country.

927
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 2: Yep.

928
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:34,360
Speaker 5: So this is what's interesting to me, and I'll be

929
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:37,640
Speaker 5: curious to see how it goes. But it stands the

930
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 5: reason if Cody Campbell wants it to be. Cody Campbell

931
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:43,440
Speaker 5: can turn Texas Tech into a top five program if

932
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:43,920
Speaker 5: he wants to.

933
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 2: This is the biggest litmus test to date for that.

934
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:51,880
Speaker 2: This is how much money does it take for you

935
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 2: to go to Lubbock, Texas. This isn't a blue blood Lubbock.

936
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:00,920
Speaker 2: I've not been, but it's an outpost in college football.

937
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 2: It's a long ways from a lot of places.

938
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 3: Some good players have played there, for.

939
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 2: Sure, but they're not a traditional power in any way.

940
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:10,680
Speaker 2: They've never recruited well in any way. They've always been

941
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 2: a quirky program, largely because of Mike Leech, where they

942
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:18,520
Speaker 2: had an identity as a past first team pass happy team. Yeah,

943
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:24,480
Speaker 2: for sure, they did a lot of Kingsbury was there, Mahomes, Graham,

944
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:26,640
Speaker 2: Harrell was there. They had a bunch of good quarterbacks

945
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 2: that went through there. And what they did was they

946
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:31,880
Speaker 2: took advance Texas high school football moved to the spread,

947
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 2: and they took advantage of that. They were the first

948
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:36,800
Speaker 2: to go spread and pitch it and catch it everywhere

949
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:39,400
Speaker 2: in the Big Twelve Conference at that time. So I

950
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:43,799
Speaker 2: think they are the perfect litmus test of how much

951
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:46,319
Speaker 2: can you do at a given place because it's it's

952
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 2: a tough place to recruit to. They have great high

953
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 2: school talent in the state of Texas, but most of

954
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 2: those kids grow up wanting to be Texas Longhorns or

955
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:56,399
Speaker 2: Oklahoma Sooners or Texas A and m Aggie's. They don't

956
00:44:56,480 --> 00:45:00,399
Speaker 2: dream of being Texas tech red Raiders. So there will

957
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:02,439
Speaker 2: be a tax they will have to pay. They're gonna

958
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:05,400
Speaker 2: have to overpay to get kids to go there. But

959
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 2: if he wants to do it, he can. The best

960
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:10,279
Speaker 2: example of this, most recently is Texas A and M.

961
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:12,400
Speaker 2: When Jimbo Fisher was a Texas A and M, they

962
00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:14,719
Speaker 2: signed the number one recruiting class in the country. It

963
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:19,359
Speaker 2: was primarily defensive lineman and they had to overcompensate them

964
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 2: to get them to all come to an M and

965
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:23,880
Speaker 2: it failed miserably and Jimbo ended up getting fired. So

966
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 2: the question here will be does this guy want that.

967
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:29,320
Speaker 2: My hunch as he does because he's running this collective,

968
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 2: so he probably does. Does he have a long term

969
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:33,279
Speaker 2: stomach for it. Does he want to do it year

970
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:35,319
Speaker 2: after year? Because it's not a one year and then done.

971
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:36,760
Speaker 2: You got to do it every year. You gotta stack

972
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:40,440
Speaker 2: them and then what is their tax for going to

973
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:41,280
Speaker 2: a remote place?

974
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 7: It's basically Lambmans selling a multi billion dollar corporation just

975
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:52,040
Speaker 7: so your college can be better in sports seems wild

976
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:54,359
Speaker 7: to me. And that's the age that we're in, though,

977
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 7: I mean, I.

978
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 3: Know that's why he sold it.

979
00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:57,800
Speaker 2: I don't know if I think he sold it for

980
00:45:57,840 --> 00:45:59,759
Speaker 2: four point one billion, And that's probably why because he

981
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:01,880
Speaker 2: thought not working anymore would be great And now I

982
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:05,799
Speaker 2: can just do this major college athletics have become And

983
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 2: that's not because this isn't new. This was this way.

984
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:09,920
Speaker 2: It's been this way for fifty years. It kind of

985
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 2: became like the last place like the ultra wealthy could

986
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:17,520
Speaker 2: show off, yep, because what is what's even for them?

987
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 2: What's more valuable than more money? Influence notoriety? Right, that's

988
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:26,960
Speaker 2: that's the most valuable commodity for the ultra ultra rich.

989
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:30,439
Speaker 2: And so this is like this is their best way. Now.

990
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 2: They've been doing it this way forever under the table.

991
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:35,160
Speaker 2: Now it's above board. This is how they can have

992
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 2: the most influence and then brag to their buddies of

993
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:42,319
Speaker 2: the influence they had. See that quarterback, that's because it's

994
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:44,799
Speaker 2: my guy, of course. I mean that's why Portnoy and

995
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:48,480
Speaker 2: Ellison's Larry, Ellison's lady friend were so quick to like,

996
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:50,880
Speaker 2: they made it abundantly clear. They're the reason Bryce Underwood's

997
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 2: at Michigan, the five star kid from up there. They

998
00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:56,640
Speaker 2: gave him twelve million dollars. Yeah, yeah, okay, and they're like, yeah,

999
00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:57,719
Speaker 2: look what we did, We did this.

1000
00:46:59,000 --> 00:46:59,200
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1001
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:02,799
Speaker 2: So it's like the last thing out there. I do

1002
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:05,360
Speaker 2: think this one's fascinating, though, because this isn't This is

1003
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 2: not SMU and living like this isn't living in Dallas.

1004
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:10,640
Speaker 6: It's not even TCU.

1005
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:12,839
Speaker 2: It's not No it's for Worth, it's not even it's

1006
00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 2: not Waco, like it's Lubbock is an outpost. It's a

1007
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:20,080
Speaker 2: long ways from everywhere. I mean, that's the oil country.

1008
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:23,239
Speaker 2: That's Midland, Odessa. Like there's great high school football out there,

1009
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:25,120
Speaker 2: but it's it's way out.

1010
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:26,760
Speaker 6: Maybe this is what Cooper is building.

1011
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:28,480
Speaker 2: Who's that?

1012
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:30,439
Speaker 6: Maybe this is what land.

1013
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:32,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe Cooper will do it. Cooper's going to sell

1014
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:35,960
Speaker 2: for four point one billion. Apparently all you do is

1015
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:38,800
Speaker 2: just ask people for their leases. They'll give them to you. Yeah, immediately,

1016
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:41,240
Speaker 2: immediately you have a little charm and a little humility

1017
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:42,319
Speaker 2: driv an old pickup truck.

1018
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:45,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, you didn't even have to not at all. You

1019
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:48,000
Speaker 3: have to look like much to inspire confidence.

1020
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:53,279
Speaker 5: Nice man in the patch, the last the patch. So

1021
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:58,959
Speaker 5: we're way north. It's kind of way north.

1022
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:01,239
Speaker 2: Lubbock, Yeah, way north.

1023
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 3: And west, Yeah, northwest.

1024
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:06,880
Speaker 5: But in the up part that one kind of yeah, perfectly,

1025
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:09,320
Speaker 5: ninety degreed up part of Texas.

1026
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:13,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a long way yeah from I mean my hunches.

1027
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 2: It's like five six hours from Dallas, maybe more.

1028
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:21,600
Speaker 3: It is the birthplace. It is the birthplace of Buddy Holly.

1029
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:27,840
Speaker 2: There you go. Yeah, all right. Second hour of the

1030
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:33,920
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1046
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:46,960
Speaker 2: thank you so much for taking the time. Let's just

1047
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:50,799
Speaker 2: start with looking back. When did it occur to you?

1048
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:53,719
Speaker 2: Was there a moment in camp during the season when

1049
00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:56,279
Speaker 2: you thought, oh, we're going to be a lot better

1050
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:57,000
Speaker 2: than people think.

1051
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:02,120
Speaker 4: Well, thanks guys, appreciate you having me on here. Yeah,

1052
00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 4: I think it. You know, in camp, I think there

1053
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:07,000
Speaker 4: was a sense that the defense was gonna be better,

1054
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:11,080
Speaker 4: which obviously with Vance Joseph they started attacking a little

1055
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:13,560
Speaker 4: bit more. But with a rookie quarterback you just never

1056
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:17,960
Speaker 4: quite know, and you saw flashes in training camp started

1057
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:19,840
Speaker 4: zero to two, things were a little bit rough, and

1058
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:22,359
Speaker 4: then in Tampa and New York, the team went on

1059
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:25,120
Speaker 4: this long road trip. They stayed at the Greenbrier out

1060
00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:27,640
Speaker 4: in West Virginia for a whole week. Won both of

1061
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:30,160
Speaker 4: those games to get back to two and two, and

1062
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:33,960
Speaker 4: even though bo Nicks didn't look spectacular, he certainly took

1063
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:37,040
Speaker 4: steps and I think that was the point where I thought, Okay,

1064
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:39,360
Speaker 4: maybe this team could make a little bit of noise.

1065
00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:43,440
Speaker 4: And then you know, when they came back from Kansas City,

1066
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:45,960
Speaker 4: they just lost two in a row to Baltimore than

1067
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:50,080
Speaker 4: Kansas City. That loss in Kansas City Week ten, they're

1068
00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:52,919
Speaker 4: five and five, but they had a game winning field

1069
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:55,959
Speaker 4: goal attempt that ended up being blocked, and bo Nicks

1070
00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:58,200
Speaker 4: showed the ability to drive him down the field. That's

1071
00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:00,560
Speaker 4: when I thought this team could really make a push

1072
00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:03,320
Speaker 4: for the playoffs. They end up reeling four wins in

1073
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:06,880
Speaker 4: a row, including kind of that back and forth thriller

1074
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 4: against the Browns on Monday Night Football. But I'd say

1075
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:12,200
Speaker 4: even though they lost that game against the Chiefs where

1076
00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:15,040
Speaker 4: he went toe to toe in Kansas City as a rookie,

1077
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:17,360
Speaker 4: that was a sign to me that this team could

1078
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:18,360
Speaker 4: surprise some people.

1079
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:23,799
Speaker 2: Did he speak of next? Did he even outperform the

1080
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:28,040
Speaker 2: wildest expectations or were there. Obviously Sean loved him, and

1081
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:30,080
Speaker 2: correct me if I'm wrong on that he loved him throughout,

1082
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:33,480
Speaker 2: But was there any anybody thought that he would be

1083
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:34,960
Speaker 2: able to play that well that quickly?

1084
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:39,040
Speaker 4: You know, I think the talk about bo Nickx was

1085
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:41,759
Speaker 4: that he has this high floor because he played so

1086
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:45,720
Speaker 4: much in college. You know, I was interested in seeing

1087
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:48,360
Speaker 4: what the ceiling was, and I think I certainly was

1088
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:51,799
Speaker 4: surprised by how high that ceiling was. So quickly threw

1089
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:55,080
Speaker 4: four touchdowns and completed more than eighty percent of his

1090
00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:58,439
Speaker 4: passes against the Falcons to kick start that four game

1091
00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:00,600
Speaker 4: win streak. He went off AENSI player week a couple

1092
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:04,440
Speaker 4: of times. I don't know that anybody expected that so quickly.

1093
00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:07,320
Speaker 4: And then I think, in terms of surprising the coaching

1094
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:11,000
Speaker 4: staff and surprising people internally, his mobility ended up being

1095
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:14,280
Speaker 4: a really big thing. Some design quarterback runs, his ability

1096
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:17,320
Speaker 4: to avoid sacks, to get out of the pocket and scramble.

1097
00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:19,080
Speaker 4: I think they knew he had some of that, but

1098
00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:22,520
Speaker 4: I think he surprised people with that ability to some degree,

1099
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:25,560
Speaker 4: and that ultimately led to him, you know, putting some

1100
00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:28,960
Speaker 4: really good performances together, and the rookie mistakes were there

1101
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 4: early against the Seahawks, against the Steelers in weeks one

1102
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:34,040
Speaker 4: or two, a couple of times along the way, but

1103
00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:36,920
Speaker 4: there weren't really As the season went along, the moment

1104
00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:39,520
Speaker 4: never really felt too big for him. He was poised.

1105
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:42,239
Speaker 4: He didn't have kind of that stinker, that clunker that

1106
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:46,320
Speaker 4: sometimes you see rookie quarterbacks have. And even in losses,

1107
00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:48,960
Speaker 4: like I think back to that Week seventeen game against

1108
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:51,760
Speaker 4: the Bengals, he went dry or drive with Joe Burrow

1109
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:54,520
Speaker 4: and made some spectacular throws and so yeah, I do

1110
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:58,040
Speaker 4: think to answer your question that he exceeded expectations quite

1111
00:52:58,040 --> 00:52:59,040
Speaker 4: a bit in year one.

1112
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:02,759
Speaker 2: Think about how they because certainly the Broncos are now

1113
00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:04,719
Speaker 2: on the ascent. They're a program headed in the right

1114
00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:07,479
Speaker 2: direction and operation headed in the right direction, all sorts

1115
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:11,880
Speaker 2: of organizational momentum. As you've watched them build to this point,

1116
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:15,080
Speaker 2: what are things that you look at and say, well,

1117
00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:17,400
Speaker 2: they did that, they got that, they nailed that. Some

1118
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:19,520
Speaker 2: it's just dumb luck, right, Sometimes you land on a

1119
00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:22,160
Speaker 2: player and they're better than you thought, and that happens.

1120
00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:24,800
Speaker 2: That's part of the league. But what of their processes

1121
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:27,759
Speaker 2: do you look at and say that is something the

1122
00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:29,239
Speaker 2: rest of the league ought to take a look at.

1123
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:33,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I think Sean Payton as a coach, when

1124
00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:35,600
Speaker 4: he came in, he immediately started to build this culture

1125
00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:38,799
Speaker 4: of toughness, accountability. It was old school. I mean, they

1126
00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:42,000
Speaker 4: play during the preseason, they go hard during training camp,

1127
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:45,440
Speaker 4: they get calloused, as Sean Payton likes to say, so,

1128
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:48,160
Speaker 4: I think there's a certain mindset that he instilled in

1129
00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:52,160
Speaker 4: kind of in the team building philosophy standpoint. It also

1130
00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:55,680
Speaker 4: started upfront with the offensive line, with the defensive line,

1131
00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:58,319
Speaker 4: making sure they were good in the trenches. And now

1132
00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:00,360
Speaker 4: you mentioned being on the ascent. I think this is

1133
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:02,480
Speaker 4: the off season where maybe you see him go out

1134
00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:06,640
Speaker 4: and get that kind of playmaker on offense. But certainly

1135
00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:09,600
Speaker 4: from a team building perspective, Sean Payton one of his

1136
00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:12,399
Speaker 4: calling cards is building things in the trenches. You saw

1137
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:15,480
Speaker 4: that in Denver, certainly having a really good offensive line.

1138
00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:18,000
Speaker 4: They were number one by a number of different metrics

1139
00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:20,279
Speaker 4: this past year. That certainly helps when you have a

1140
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:24,720
Speaker 4: rookie quarterback. And Sean Payton said a lot before the season,

1141
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:27,319
Speaker 4: the way we're going to help bo Nicks is good

1142
00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:30,120
Speaker 4: offensive line protecting him and playing good defense, and they

1143
00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:32,920
Speaker 4: were able to do both of those things. And then

1144
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:34,920
Speaker 4: of course hitting on the quarterback helps too.

1145
00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:38,440
Speaker 2: Right, That's the thing. We're having that discussion all the

1146
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:40,480
Speaker 2: time around here, like, Okay, all this stuff is nice,

1147
00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:43,200
Speaker 2: but like until you have the guy, there's a concrete

1148
00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:45,719
Speaker 2: ceiling over your head and you can't kind of break

1149
00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:49,680
Speaker 2: through it that you mentioned this offseason. So they land

1150
00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:52,480
Speaker 2: with Nix, you have all of this momentum, critical off

1151
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:55,560
Speaker 2: season obviously for the franchise in terms of okay, now

1152
00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:58,640
Speaker 2: we've arrived, how do we get to be contenders? What's

1153
00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:01,040
Speaker 2: the off season checklist look like for the Broncos.

1154
00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:02,080
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1155
00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:04,480
Speaker 4: Sean Payton was on Kay Adams' show down at the

1156
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:06,759
Speaker 4: Super Bowl a couple of weeks ago, and he kind

1157
00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:08,760
Speaker 4: of mentioned one of the things is finding that joker

1158
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:11,120
Speaker 4: position that he likes to talk about, which is either

1159
00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:13,920
Speaker 4: a tight end that can kind of thrive in the

1160
00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:16,640
Speaker 4: passing game kind of an elite catcher of the football,

1161
00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:18,560
Speaker 4: or a running back that can do the same thing.

1162
00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:21,040
Speaker 4: And so you think back to you know, an Alvin Kamara,

1163
00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:24,680
Speaker 4: Jeremy Shockey, Jimmy Graham, like he's had a lot of

1164
00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:27,440
Speaker 4: those guys in the past. The Broncos were able to

1165
00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:29,480
Speaker 4: get a little bit of production in the passing game

1166
00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:31,480
Speaker 4: from their running backs, but I'm sure they'd like to

1167
00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:34,040
Speaker 4: see more the tight end position. There were a couple

1168
00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:36,399
Speaker 4: of games where they broke out. There was a game

1169
00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:39,319
Speaker 4: against the Panthers here in Denver where they think three

1170
00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:42,320
Speaker 4: combined touchdowns, but there there wasn't that guy that had

1171
00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:46,080
Speaker 4: you know, six, seven, eight touchdowns or more. And so

1172
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:48,640
Speaker 4: that's a position where maybe you see them target. He

1173
00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:51,960
Speaker 4: also mentioned on that show kind of inside linebacker safety

1174
00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:56,160
Speaker 4: as a position where you could see them address some things. So,

1175
00:55:56,560 --> 00:55:59,160
Speaker 4: you know, I think there's kind of the the meat

1176
00:55:59,160 --> 00:56:01,400
Speaker 4: and potatoes into this, where can you shore up a

1177
00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:04,319
Speaker 4: defense that was already really good a year ago, but

1178
00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:06,320
Speaker 4: you know, maybe needs to take just the next step

1179
00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:09,400
Speaker 4: to compete against the Buffalo Bills, the Baltimore Ravens, the

1180
00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:11,920
Speaker 4: Kansas City Chiefs of the world. And then there's the

1181
00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:14,759
Speaker 4: flashy element of can you go find a playmaker on

1182
00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:18,080
Speaker 4: offense You've already got a guy like Courtland Sutton. Marvin

1183
00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:20,520
Speaker 4: Mims broke out late in the year, so interested to

1184
00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:22,920
Speaker 4: see kind of how he continues to progress. He was

1185
00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:25,160
Speaker 4: a big time deep threat for them. But can you

1186
00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:28,319
Speaker 4: find another weapon for Boonicks to throw the football to,

1187
00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:30,759
Speaker 4: whether it's out of the backfield or kind of in

1188
00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:31,680
Speaker 4: line as a tight end?

1189
00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:34,920
Speaker 2: What is your I mean, you hit on all in

1190
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:37,800
Speaker 2: terms of draft and what this draft provides. We'll know

1191
00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:40,279
Speaker 2: more next week at the combine, because as you know,

1192
00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:41,839
Speaker 2: when he gets there, there's a lot of group think

1193
00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:43,680
Speaker 2: that starts to happen in terms of kind of a

1194
00:56:43,719 --> 00:56:46,800
Speaker 2: consensus starts being builled. When you think about the draft

1195
00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:49,600
Speaker 2: especially and you think about the strengths and weaknesses of

1196
00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:52,439
Speaker 2: this draft, where do you sense the Broncos go there?

1197
00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:57,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I know Colston Lovelin at A Michigan is

1198
00:56:57,520 --> 00:56:59,520
Speaker 4: a guy that's been mock draft to them a lot

1199
00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:01,880
Speaker 4: to tight end just for his ability to kind of

1200
00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:05,840
Speaker 4: fill that joker position. Ashing Genty the running back obviously

1201
00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:08,560
Speaker 4: that everybody knows. At A Boise is another name that's

1202
00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:11,719
Speaker 4: been linked to the Broncos. But truly, I think you've

1203
00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:15,080
Speaker 4: seen Chem Payton and his you know, it's particularly a

1204
00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:19,160
Speaker 4: Saint's history where he'll take a defensive guy if he's

1205
00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:21,760
Speaker 4: the best player on the board. And so DJ Jones

1206
00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:24,720
Speaker 4: is a big time player for the Broncos interior defensive

1207
00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:26,760
Speaker 4: lineman who's a free agent. We'll see kind of what

1208
00:57:26,840 --> 00:57:29,040
Speaker 4: happens there in free agency. But you know, if he

1209
00:57:29,080 --> 00:57:30,800
Speaker 4: doesn't come back, it wouldn't surprise me to see him

1210
00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:33,400
Speaker 4: take a d lineman or to go with a safety,

1211
00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:35,880
Speaker 4: or if you find kind of an inside linebacker that

1212
00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:39,440
Speaker 4: you think is a difference maker. So all the mock

1213
00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:43,600
Speaker 4: drafts right now have kind of an offensive playmaker going

1214
00:57:43,640 --> 00:57:46,080
Speaker 4: to Denver. But sem Payton always talks about this NFL

1215
00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:49,600
Speaker 4: train of kind of knowledge and like you said, group think,

1216
00:57:49,640 --> 00:57:51,840
Speaker 4: and you pay attention to it to some degree, but

1217
00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:53,920
Speaker 4: then you've got to make your own decision. And so

1218
00:57:54,680 --> 00:57:57,120
Speaker 4: I think kind of the easy pick is offense, whether

1219
00:57:57,160 --> 00:58:00,600
Speaker 4: it's tight end or running back. Certainly when shock me

1220
00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:03,200
Speaker 4: if they end up going defense, especially in the middle

1221
00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:05,640
Speaker 4: of the defense there Eric.

1222
00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:09,080
Speaker 2: What what different the hiring of Peyton and what that represented,

1223
00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:12,240
Speaker 2: and then what you've witnessed from him kind of at

1224
00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:15,919
Speaker 2: the top of the organization. What difference has that made?

1225
00:58:16,200 --> 00:58:20,600
Speaker 2: How does he do things different than previous regimes. Obviously

1226
00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:22,200
Speaker 2: it's all been worth it. I mean, this is all

1227
00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:24,280
Speaker 2: flipped and it's and you've become one of the ascending

1228
00:58:24,320 --> 00:58:27,240
Speaker 2: teams relatively quickly. But what have you seen from him?

1229
00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:30,200
Speaker 2: What what is different from him versus previous regimes.

1230
00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:33,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think there's just this this standard that he

1231
00:58:33,520 --> 00:58:38,240
Speaker 4: sets that you know, excellence is kind of what's expected.

1232
00:58:38,280 --> 00:58:40,560
Speaker 4: And I think with the Broncos that's set at the

1233
00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:43,720
Speaker 4: very top. With the ownership group, Greg Penner, who came

1234
00:58:43,720 --> 00:58:45,960
Speaker 4: in a few years ago, the owner and CEO, he's

1235
00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:49,200
Speaker 4: talked about how winning football games is the expectations at

1236
00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:51,439
Speaker 4: the end of the year. He said, winning AFC West

1237
00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:54,720
Speaker 4: next year is kind of the number one priority for

1238
00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:57,120
Speaker 4: this team. So it starts there. And then, like you said,

1239
00:58:57,160 --> 00:58:59,840
Speaker 4: with Sean Payton, he has a history of doing this right.

1240
00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:02,040
Speaker 4: So there's kind of this sense that if you buy

1241
00:59:02,040 --> 00:59:05,280
Speaker 4: in to Sean Payton's program and you kind of follow

1242
00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:07,560
Speaker 4: the way that he wants to do things, you're going

1243
00:59:07,600 --> 00:59:10,120
Speaker 4: to find success. And then once you see that success,

1244
00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:12,120
Speaker 4: it becomes easier to buy in and kind of keep

1245
00:59:12,120 --> 00:59:15,960
Speaker 4: it going. But when you talk to his former players especially,

1246
00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:18,520
Speaker 4: and I remember this when he first got hired, a

1247
00:59:18,560 --> 00:59:20,760
Speaker 4: lot of guys talked about you don't want to let

1248
00:59:20,840 --> 00:59:23,640
Speaker 4: him down or you don't want to disappoint him, And

1249
00:59:23,720 --> 00:59:27,160
Speaker 4: I think when everybody kind of plays, you know, they

1250
00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:29,800
Speaker 4: push themselves to be their best so that they're not

1251
00:59:29,880 --> 00:59:32,200
Speaker 4: letting their teammates down. They're not letting him down. That's

1252
00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:34,920
Speaker 4: what stands out to me. And then the other thing

1253
00:59:35,120 --> 00:59:40,080
Speaker 4: is just his teams tend to play smart, fundamentally sound.

1254
00:59:40,320 --> 00:59:44,080
Speaker 4: There weren't games this year where the Broncos beat themselves,

1255
00:59:44,800 --> 00:59:47,160
Speaker 4: and so many times in the past I've covered this

1256
00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:50,720
Speaker 4: team since twenty sixteen, there were times when the Broncos

1257
00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:53,480
Speaker 4: frankly beat themselves or they did things that didn't lead

1258
00:59:53,560 --> 00:59:57,120
Speaker 4: to wins, and under Sean Payton, it feels like you're

1259
00:59:57,120 --> 00:59:58,880
Speaker 4: going to win in the margins. You're not going to

1260
00:59:58,920 --> 01:00:02,840
Speaker 4: make those mistakes. You didn't see the Broncos lose to

1261
01:00:02,880 --> 01:00:05,760
Speaker 4: teams that they shouldn't lose too. I think all but

1262
01:00:05,920 --> 01:00:08,920
Speaker 4: one of their wins was by more than one possession,

1263
01:00:08,920 --> 01:00:12,240
Speaker 4: and I believe eight of those wins were by double digits.

1264
01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:14,760
Speaker 4: So when they played teams that they were supposed to beat,

1265
01:00:14,920 --> 01:00:17,600
Speaker 4: they kind of ran away with it and they if

1266
01:00:17,640 --> 01:00:19,800
Speaker 4: there's a place for improvement next year, it's that. I

1267
01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:22,840
Speaker 4: believe they only won one one score game this year.

1268
01:00:22,840 --> 01:00:25,240
Speaker 4: I think they were one and six excuse me, one

1269
01:00:25,280 --> 01:00:27,160
Speaker 4: and five and one score game, So can you take

1270
01:00:27,160 --> 01:00:30,280
Speaker 4: that step next year? But it does stand out that

1271
01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:32,360
Speaker 4: this team won games they were supposed to win, and

1272
01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:33,960
Speaker 4: that seems to be one of the calling cards of

1273
01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:35,840
Speaker 4: Sean Payton's system.

1274
01:00:36,240 --> 01:00:38,280
Speaker 2: Boy, Yeah, and you feel like that reverts to the

1275
01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:40,480
Speaker 2: norm and if you're instead of one and six, you're

1276
01:00:40,840 --> 01:00:44,080
Speaker 2: four and three in those games. Look out, Eric, you've

1277
01:00:44,120 --> 01:00:47,400
Speaker 2: been around since twenty sixteen around the team. I want

1278
01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:49,000
Speaker 2: to ask you one just kind of off topic, in

1279
01:00:49,040 --> 01:00:52,120
Speaker 2: regard to the Broncos and Peyton Manning, who still makes

1280
01:00:52,120 --> 01:00:56,360
Speaker 2: his home out there. I'm assuming how omnipresent is he

1281
01:00:56,440 --> 01:00:58,760
Speaker 2: around the organization. Are you surprised that he has not

1282
01:00:59,440 --> 01:01:02,640
Speaker 2: taken a an official role in football at some point,

1283
01:01:02,800 --> 01:01:05,840
Speaker 2: or that he has chosen this other path, this sports

1284
01:01:05,960 --> 01:01:06,720
Speaker 2: entertainment path.

1285
01:01:07,560 --> 01:01:09,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean he's certainly good at the sports entertainment stuff.

1286
01:01:09,920 --> 01:01:10,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was.

1287
01:01:10,880 --> 01:01:14,040
Speaker 4: Good on SNL the other night. You know, when he's

1288
01:01:14,080 --> 01:01:16,160
Speaker 4: talked about it, he said that he likes kind of

1289
01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:18,240
Speaker 4: being around all these different teams. He likes what he's

1290
01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:21,919
Speaker 4: doing right now, being available to be around his son

1291
01:01:21,960 --> 01:01:24,520
Speaker 4: as he's playing football. And I know they traveled at

1292
01:01:24,560 --> 01:01:27,160
Speaker 4: different games, and so you're right, he's around at times,

1293
01:01:27,160 --> 01:01:30,200
Speaker 4: and he'll he definitely will pop into practice a couple

1294
01:01:30,200 --> 01:01:32,160
Speaker 4: of times a year, pop it by training camp a

1295
01:01:32,160 --> 01:01:35,000
Speaker 4: couple of times a year. So it's not like you

1296
01:01:35,040 --> 01:01:38,840
Speaker 4: never see Peyton Manning around here by any means. But listen,

1297
01:01:38,920 --> 01:01:41,040
Speaker 4: I think he's got a pretty good gig. I wouldn't

1298
01:01:41,360 --> 01:01:43,640
Speaker 4: you know. I trade places with him in a heartbeat.

1299
01:01:43,760 --> 01:01:47,160
Speaker 4: So he's always welcome around here. And certainly he's been

1300
01:01:47,200 --> 01:01:50,680
Speaker 4: a big resource for a number of different quarterbacks that

1301
01:01:50,720 --> 01:01:53,120
Speaker 4: they've had. Obviously he's kind of gone through him here

1302
01:01:53,320 --> 01:01:56,080
Speaker 4: over the last eight nine years. But with bo Nix,

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Speaker 4: having a guy like Peyton Manning as a resource, I'm

1304
01:01:58,640 --> 01:01:59,960
Speaker 4: sure is invaluable.

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Speaker 2: All Right, I'll get you out of here on this one.

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01:02:02,400 --> 01:02:05,479
Speaker 2: How big if all, if at all, is the call

1307
01:02:05,600 --> 01:02:08,240
Speaker 2: to just wear the Orange Crush uniforms always.

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Speaker 4: I know fans love them, They're beautiful. I love them too.

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Speaker 4: My take is maybe a little bit controversial, and I

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01:02:17,040 --> 01:02:19,080
Speaker 4: think it's good that they can only wear them a

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Speaker 4: couple of times a year because I think if you

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01:02:20,840 --> 01:02:22,959
Speaker 4: saw him every week, you would just get a little

1313
01:02:22,960 --> 01:02:25,240
Speaker 4: bit immune to them. You'd get used to them and

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01:02:25,280 --> 01:02:27,520
Speaker 4: it wouldn't be quite as special. I think wearing them

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Speaker 4: once or twice a year makes it that. Especially last

1316
01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:34,320
Speaker 4: year it was against two division rivals, two wins at home.

1317
01:02:35,280 --> 01:02:37,080
Speaker 4: You know, it keeps kind of the uniqueness of it.

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01:02:37,160 --> 01:02:40,840
Speaker 4: So they're incredible and they're definitely everyone's favorite uniform, I think.

1319
01:02:40,880 --> 01:02:43,240
Speaker 4: But I like the kind of the idea that you

1320
01:02:43,280 --> 01:02:44,800
Speaker 4: only get to wear them a couple of times.

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Speaker 2: All right, fair controversial, but fair. Appreciate your time, buddy,

1322
01:02:48,840 --> 01:02:52,280
Speaker 2: as always given us a little bit of your expertise today.

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01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:53,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, thank you guys so much. Appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: All right, There he goes Eric Dealala, joining us lead

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Speaker 2: at where the Broncos are and yes, they should wear

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Speaker 2: those uniforms all the time. We'll get into that coming

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Speaker 2: talking about with with Eric with some of the categories

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Speaker 2: on the broncos here in just a second. One of

1342
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Speaker 2: the things that we were talking about is I asked

1343
01:04:15,960 --> 01:04:20,800
Speaker 2: him philosophically processes, what can other teams learn from Denver?

1344
01:04:20,840 --> 01:04:22,800
Speaker 2: And he went through like kind of how they built

1345
01:04:22,840 --> 01:04:24,280
Speaker 2: it and all of this stuff. But then the end

1346
01:04:24,320 --> 01:04:25,960
Speaker 2: he goes, it helps to land the quarterback.

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01:04:26,440 --> 01:04:29,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, no kidding, that changes it.

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01:04:29,440 --> 01:04:33,360
Speaker 2: That's what changed Washington. That's what changed Denver. We are

1349
01:04:33,400 --> 01:04:36,760
Speaker 2: not talking about Denver as an up and coming NFL team.

1350
01:04:36,800 --> 01:04:39,600
Speaker 2: If bon Nix isn't good, correct, he was good, and

1351
01:04:39,680 --> 01:04:41,720
Speaker 2: so nowvis and their contender, and now they can pivot.

1352
01:04:41,840 --> 01:04:46,160
Speaker 2: It's just like Washington. Washington hit the lottery with Jayden Daniels,

1353
01:04:46,200 --> 01:04:49,560
Speaker 2: the lottery lottery and now they have the second or

1354
01:04:49,600 --> 01:04:51,960
Speaker 2: among the most cap space in the NFL. Now all

1355
01:04:51,920 --> 01:04:55,320
Speaker 2: of a sudden, they can they can get aggressive and

1356
01:04:55,400 --> 01:04:58,120
Speaker 2: they can go yeah big, and now they can take

1357
01:04:58,480 --> 01:05:02,120
Speaker 2: they can take luxury picks in the raft totally that

1358
01:05:02,200 --> 01:05:04,600
Speaker 2: you otherwise wouldn't take because you have to get out

1359
01:05:04,600 --> 01:05:08,200
Speaker 2: of jail free card in the quarterback totally. So it's

1360
01:05:08,320 --> 01:05:12,400
Speaker 2: that's the that's it. They landed. And I give Sean

1361
01:05:12,440 --> 01:05:15,240
Speaker 2: Payton a lot of credit for Bonix. Who's your buddy

1362
01:05:15,240 --> 01:05:17,400
Speaker 2: who liked Jimmy bang Bank Bang Bang nailed it?

1363
01:05:17,760 --> 01:05:18,280
Speaker 3: He had it.

1364
01:05:19,360 --> 01:05:21,600
Speaker 2: What made him so confident? I remember this in the

1365
01:05:21,680 --> 01:05:24,040
Speaker 2: lead up to it, you're talking about Bang Bang.

1366
01:05:24,600 --> 01:05:29,040
Speaker 5: He was at a conference with a significant other of

1367
01:05:29,120 --> 01:05:33,440
Speaker 5: somebody very high on their personnel side. Oh, that significant

1368
01:05:33,440 --> 01:05:35,760
Speaker 5: other told him you were taking bonicks.

1369
01:05:36,920 --> 01:05:41,440
Speaker 3: That's like the month months yeah, yeah, months in advance.

1370
01:05:41,680 --> 01:05:44,640
Speaker 2: That was similar to the Kingsbury thing where a former

1371
01:05:44,640 --> 01:05:47,040
Speaker 2: intern of mine was dating Cliff Kingsbury at the time

1372
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Speaker 2: when he was just named the head coach of the

1373
01:05:48,600 --> 01:05:51,440
Speaker 2: Texas of the after Texas An when he was named

1374
01:05:51,440 --> 01:05:53,840
Speaker 2: the of Arizona. She's like, oh no, and she wasn't

1375
01:05:53,880 --> 01:05:56,440
Speaker 2: like he can. She's like, I just know he loves Kyler.

1376
01:05:57,320 --> 01:05:59,480
Speaker 2: And we were going into the combine and I'm like

1377
01:05:59,520 --> 01:06:01,880
Speaker 2: I think Kyler. Emer's like no, no, they drafted him to

1378
01:06:01,920 --> 01:06:03,520
Speaker 2: get the best at a Rosen. Then we got to

1379
01:06:03,560 --> 01:06:05,840
Speaker 2: the combine, he was like, oh, yeah, they're taking Kylo

1380
01:06:05,960 --> 01:06:09,720
Speaker 2: number one, Like that's that's done. So that's the way

1381
01:06:09,760 --> 01:06:12,120
Speaker 2: that it goes. Yeah, you want to hit some what

1382
01:06:12,160 --> 01:06:13,680
Speaker 2: are your thoughts on the Broncos real quick before he

1383
01:06:13,720 --> 01:06:14,720
Speaker 2: hit the categories on them.

1384
01:06:15,160 --> 01:06:17,320
Speaker 3: I like this team. I do think.

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01:06:17,920 --> 01:06:20,400
Speaker 5: No, it's it's interesting Peyton one of the things that

1386
01:06:20,520 --> 01:06:22,080
Speaker 5: people used to always get mad. It's funny how it's

1387
01:06:22,080 --> 01:06:24,760
Speaker 5: at Denver Broncos about that. Mike Shanahan would always have

1388
01:06:24,880 --> 01:06:27,040
Speaker 5: this like stable of backs and rotate them and all

1389
01:06:27,080 --> 01:06:28,840
Speaker 5: of that, and it feels like he's assembled that again.

1390
01:06:28,880 --> 01:06:33,360
Speaker 5: So I wouldn't see them taking Gent. I'm curious if

1391
01:06:33,360 --> 01:06:38,000
Speaker 5: Adric estimate can be like the mark Ingram. Yeah, you know,

1392
01:06:38,040 --> 01:06:40,160
Speaker 5: and then they need to find maybe a pass catching back.

1393
01:06:40,200 --> 01:06:42,760
Speaker 5: I know they like McLoughlin, but Javante's a free agent.

1394
01:06:42,840 --> 01:06:45,160
Speaker 5: He just never think he was way on his way

1395
01:06:45,240 --> 01:06:47,680
Speaker 5: and then that ACL was devastating to him. I think,

1396
01:06:48,560 --> 01:06:50,760
Speaker 5: good defensive piece. You know, you got two edg rushers

1397
01:06:50,760 --> 01:06:53,600
Speaker 5: with double digit sacks. You got one of the best,

1398
01:06:53,640 --> 01:06:56,360
Speaker 5: if not the best corners in the league. In pat

1399
01:06:56,440 --> 01:07:00,720
Speaker 5: PS two. You got that mile High Advanced. It's a

1400
01:07:00,760 --> 01:07:04,360
Speaker 5: good place you got you had. Zach Allen is a

1401
01:07:04,400 --> 01:07:07,040
Speaker 5: second team All Pro. Marvin Mims was a first team

1402
01:07:07,040 --> 01:07:08,800
Speaker 5: All Pro Hunt return and then showed some juice at

1403
01:07:08,840 --> 01:07:11,680
Speaker 5: the end of the seasons as a pass catcher. Sirtan

1404
01:07:11,920 --> 01:07:14,600
Speaker 5: was first team All Pro NFL Defensive Player of the Year,

1405
01:07:14,600 --> 01:07:16,240
Speaker 5: and Benito was a Pro Bowler and a second team

1406
01:07:16,240 --> 01:07:19,360
Speaker 5: All Pro. I mean, they they've got they've got some

1407
01:07:19,360 --> 01:07:22,000
Speaker 5: some talent and some juice to go around. They're going

1408
01:07:22,080 --> 01:07:26,120
Speaker 5: to have, you know, decent cap money, and I'm imagining

1409
01:07:26,160 --> 01:07:27,600
Speaker 5: pretty soon they're going to get Russ off there. I

1410
01:07:27,600 --> 01:07:29,240
Speaker 5: think they have thirty two more million of Russ this

1411
01:07:29,320 --> 01:07:31,320
Speaker 5: year and then I think he's off their books. Yeah,

1412
01:07:31,640 --> 01:07:35,320
Speaker 5: so they're they're good at good division. I like them

1413
01:07:35,360 --> 01:07:39,000
Speaker 5: a lot. I like Kansas City obviously, and I like

1414
01:07:39,040 --> 01:07:41,520
Speaker 5: the Chargers a lot. So it's a very good division.

1415
01:07:41,560 --> 01:07:44,200
Speaker 2: And the Raiders have the most cap space of anybody,

1416
01:07:44,240 --> 01:07:46,200
Speaker 2: as much as anybody, so a chance to get good

1417
01:07:46,360 --> 01:07:47,080
Speaker 2: they could.

1418
01:07:46,880 --> 01:07:51,560
Speaker 5: And they're unfortunately not in a position due to the

1419
01:07:51,600 --> 01:07:53,600
Speaker 5: way some thing's played out. They're not in a position

1420
01:07:53,640 --> 01:07:55,680
Speaker 5: to necessarily definitely get their quarterback.

1421
01:07:55,840 --> 01:07:57,800
Speaker 2: No, they need help, they need one of the two

1422
01:07:57,880 --> 01:08:00,880
Speaker 2: to fall, or they need to go out and free age.

1423
01:08:00,880 --> 01:08:02,600
Speaker 2: See if you could do or do it be a trade?

1424
01:08:03,480 --> 01:08:06,000
Speaker 2: All right, let's hit some of the categories. Kevy, look, oh,

1425
01:08:06,000 --> 01:08:06,680
Speaker 2: go ahead, go ahead.

1426
01:08:06,720 --> 01:08:08,000
Speaker 3: Let me ask you this, Go ahead.

1427
01:08:07,800 --> 01:08:08,520
Speaker 2: Ask me anything you like.

1428
01:08:09,200 --> 01:08:13,000
Speaker 5: You're the Raiders, you said, Pete Carroll's probably not too

1429
01:08:13,000 --> 01:08:14,760
Speaker 5: long for the world and not for the.

1430
01:08:14,680 --> 01:08:16,360
Speaker 3: World, but not too long for a coaching.

1431
01:08:16,520 --> 01:08:18,080
Speaker 2: I don't think he's have a lot of patience for

1432
01:08:18,120 --> 01:08:20,240
Speaker 2: like a four or five years filled at seventy whatever.

1433
01:08:20,760 --> 01:08:23,960
Speaker 3: So supposedly the Rams are like serious about this. I

1434
01:08:24,000 --> 01:08:24,280
Speaker 3: don't know.

1435
01:08:24,280 --> 01:08:26,720
Speaker 5: We've seen now there's asking prices a first rounder. If

1436
01:08:26,760 --> 01:08:30,360
Speaker 5: you're the Raiders, would you trade six for Matt Stafford

1437
01:08:30,479 --> 01:08:31,040
Speaker 5: to run?

1438
01:08:32,760 --> 01:08:36,960
Speaker 2: Well, not them. I wouldn't if I were Miami or Miami.

1439
01:08:37,160 --> 01:08:39,160
Speaker 5: But if you have let's say you have Matt Stafford,

1440
01:08:39,200 --> 01:08:41,519
Speaker 5: you got Bowers, you got Myers, you have all them,

1441
01:08:41,800 --> 01:08:43,439
Speaker 5: can sign Maybe you can signed to him.

1442
01:08:43,479 --> 01:08:44,599
Speaker 3: He just went up Benning Warford.

1443
01:08:45,840 --> 01:08:48,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can maybe get cut via trade.

1444
01:08:47,840 --> 01:08:50,799
Speaker 3: Draft a running back in the early second and then oh.

1445
01:08:50,640 --> 01:08:55,800
Speaker 2: Baby, yeah. The only hesitation I have is just you're

1446
01:08:55,840 --> 01:08:57,599
Speaker 2: in the AFC, and I almost feel like you gotta

1447
01:08:57,600 --> 01:09:01,519
Speaker 2: wait out some of this a little bit decade now,

1448
01:09:01,640 --> 01:09:04,759
Speaker 2: I know, But like the division especially like it feels

1449
01:09:04,760 --> 01:09:08,400
Speaker 2: like I I like your point. I by the way,

1450
01:09:08,400 --> 01:09:10,000
Speaker 2: I don't buy it. I don't see any scenario where

1451
01:09:10,000 --> 01:09:11,880
Speaker 2: Matthew Stafford is not playing for the Rams next year.

1452
01:09:11,920 --> 01:09:14,519
Speaker 2: I feel like it's negotiating. I don't know where. I mean,

1453
01:09:14,560 --> 01:09:16,040
Speaker 2: they just won the division, but.

1454
01:09:16,000 --> 01:09:17,800
Speaker 5: It doesn't sound like it's coming from him. It's not

1455
01:09:17,880 --> 01:09:19,479
Speaker 5: like he's like, I want to be true.

1456
01:09:19,360 --> 01:09:20,519
Speaker 2: But what do they want to get rid of him for?

1457
01:09:20,520 --> 01:09:21,200
Speaker 2: What are they gonna do?

1458
01:09:21,560 --> 01:09:22,000
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1459
01:09:22,200 --> 01:09:24,160
Speaker 2: Can you Afford in Los Angeles to not be in

1460
01:09:24,160 --> 01:09:28,439
Speaker 2: the mix, Like, unless they got a quarterback back, they

1461
01:09:28,479 --> 01:09:34,599
Speaker 2: would almost have to do the Stafford goth inverted like

1462
01:09:34,640 --> 01:09:36,679
Speaker 2: you'd have. That's why I said Miami, Like, if you're

1463
01:09:36,840 --> 01:09:40,599
Speaker 2: LA and you send Stafford to Miami and Tua comes back,

1464
01:09:40,640 --> 01:09:42,000
Speaker 2: and I have no idea if the money would work

1465
01:09:42,040 --> 01:09:44,280
Speaker 2: on any of that, but Tua comes back, then at

1466
01:09:44,360 --> 01:09:46,040
Speaker 2: least you have a young quarterback that you can pair

1467
01:09:46,080 --> 01:09:48,479
Speaker 2: with Puka Nakua. There's some sense that's made of that

1468
01:09:48,520 --> 01:09:50,639
Speaker 2: Stafford gets to go to Miami. He gets to play

1469
01:09:50,680 --> 01:09:53,479
Speaker 2: with Tyreek and Waddle and most Are and all that talent.

1470
01:09:53,880 --> 01:09:55,400
Speaker 2: That at least I look at that and I go, okay,

1471
01:09:55,400 --> 01:09:57,519
Speaker 2: well that makes sense for everybody. I think Stafford would

1472
01:09:57,520 --> 01:09:59,600
Speaker 2: be excited to go to Miami. I think to a

1473
01:09:59,880 --> 01:10:03,839
Speaker 2: l makes some sense. Fresh star for him, cerebral quarterback.

1474
01:10:03,880 --> 01:10:05,800
Speaker 2: They'll get it out of his hands quick, similar system

1475
01:10:05,880 --> 01:10:09,840
Speaker 2: McDaniel McVeigh. Okay, fine, but like I don't, I just

1476
01:10:09,880 --> 01:10:11,880
Speaker 2: wonder where other with the other landing spot, like I

1477
01:10:11,880 --> 01:10:15,719
Speaker 2: don't see like Pittsburgh, Like Staffer's not gonna go play

1478
01:10:15,800 --> 01:10:17,040
Speaker 2: like I don't sense that.

1479
01:10:17,479 --> 01:10:17,759
Speaker 3: No.

1480
01:10:18,560 --> 01:10:20,360
Speaker 5: I mean he played for the rant they won the

1481
01:10:20,360 --> 01:10:25,680
Speaker 5: supermw Vegas. Vegas is out there, dome, good weather.

1482
01:10:25,800 --> 01:10:28,280
Speaker 2: That's appealing. Vegas would be the place of living, would

1483
01:10:28,280 --> 01:10:29,000
Speaker 2: be very appealing.

1484
01:10:29,360 --> 01:10:34,679
Speaker 5: I could see him go into Indy. Jonathan Taylor, Pittman,

1485
01:10:35,160 --> 01:10:40,799
Speaker 5: Pierce Downs, You've got some good weapons. It's a winnable division.

1486
01:10:45,720 --> 01:10:45,920
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1487
01:10:45,960 --> 01:10:50,040
Speaker 2: Does he would he trust that operation with the end

1488
01:10:50,080 --> 01:10:53,280
Speaker 2: of his career. I think they'll give him, say, I

1489
01:10:53,320 --> 01:10:53,760
Speaker 2: would hope.

1490
01:10:53,760 --> 01:10:54,599
Speaker 3: So, I mean.

1491
01:10:56,479 --> 01:11:01,000
Speaker 5: It's not a bad on paper operation. They've been you know, running,

1492
01:11:01,120 --> 01:11:03,160
Speaker 5: they've been consistent, They're consistent and they kind of just

1493
01:11:03,160 --> 01:11:04,760
Speaker 5: need that quarterback to get him over the hub. But

1494
01:11:05,120 --> 01:11:09,040
Speaker 5: it's also been where you know, Phil Rivers, Matt Ryan

1495
01:11:09,720 --> 01:11:10,559
Speaker 5: kind of went.

1496
01:11:10,360 --> 01:11:16,160
Speaker 2: To Yeah, Peter put out the pasture. Yeah, what about Dallas?

1497
01:11:18,600 --> 01:11:20,800
Speaker 3: I don't think they just signed Decked that that was

1498
01:11:20,840 --> 01:11:22,120
Speaker 3: that was week one of last year.

1499
01:11:22,200 --> 01:11:23,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just wonder if I don't think they could

1500
01:11:23,560 --> 01:11:26,000
Speaker 2: get out anywise, would it? Could they make that work?

1501
01:11:26,040 --> 01:11:30,920
Speaker 2: I don't think so they can because he's a Dallas kid. Uh, yeah,

1502
01:11:31,040 --> 01:11:33,160
Speaker 2: there's there aren't. I don't know that. I believe that

1503
01:11:33,200 --> 01:11:35,479
Speaker 2: to be real though, what that he's not going to

1504
01:11:35,520 --> 01:11:37,760
Speaker 2: play for the Rams? I saw that too. I saw

1505
01:11:37,760 --> 01:11:40,920
Speaker 2: that same reporting that you know, could he be available

1506
01:11:40,960 --> 01:11:43,040
Speaker 2: and if so does would Rogers be in play for

1507
01:11:43,200 --> 01:11:46,759
Speaker 2: LA with the Rams? It was some of the reporting

1508
01:11:46,760 --> 01:11:49,439
Speaker 2: I saw this morning. But I tend to think that

1509
01:11:49,479 --> 01:11:50,639
Speaker 2: Stafford will end up being there.

1510
01:11:51,840 --> 01:11:54,320
Speaker 3: I agree, and I kind of would like him too.

1511
01:11:54,320 --> 01:12:01,120
Speaker 5: So if they no, there's it. If they were to

1512
01:12:01,160 --> 01:12:03,000
Speaker 5: cut him, there'd be one hundred and fifty million of

1513
01:12:03,040 --> 01:12:06,280
Speaker 5: dead No. Tallis year sixty one, and I think that's

1514
01:12:06,280 --> 01:12:06,720
Speaker 5: true with them.

1515
01:12:06,840 --> 01:12:08,320
Speaker 3: They trade him, if they traded.

1516
01:12:08,040 --> 01:12:13,120
Speaker 5: Him, if they trade him post June first, it would

1517
01:12:13,120 --> 01:12:14,920
Speaker 5: be forty two of dead million this year twenty eight,

1518
01:12:15,000 --> 01:12:17,360
Speaker 5: the next year seventeen and seventeen in it.

1519
01:12:17,880 --> 01:12:19,680
Speaker 3: I mean, I guess they could.

1520
01:12:21,000 --> 01:12:22,880
Speaker 2: I agree. I just was trying to find a place.

1521
01:12:23,360 --> 01:12:25,759
Speaker 2: Miami's the one that jumps out to me for him, Like, yeah,

1522
01:12:25,760 --> 01:12:29,639
Speaker 2: that's the one. The only other one would be Atlanta. Yeah,

1523
01:12:29,640 --> 01:12:33,599
Speaker 2: like does Atlanta punt on Penis? Send Panix to the Rams?

1524
01:12:33,640 --> 01:12:36,800
Speaker 2: And then Stafford played his college ball at Georgia, Like

1525
01:12:37,439 --> 01:12:40,720
Speaker 2: that's a winnable division. Doesn't say talent. It seems like

1526
01:12:40,760 --> 01:12:42,280
Speaker 2: they're all in on Penis. That was kind of the

1527
01:12:42,280 --> 01:12:44,320
Speaker 2: way that that seems there. All right, you ready hit

1528
01:12:44,320 --> 01:12:45,360
Speaker 2: some categories on the Broncos.

1529
01:12:45,360 --> 01:12:47,080
Speaker 3: Oh I love it all right, keV.

1530
01:12:47,200 --> 01:12:50,040
Speaker 2: Any sort of NFL, any sort of traveling fun music,

1531
01:12:50,040 --> 01:12:51,920
Speaker 2: if you have it at you're available, you can pop

1532
01:12:51,920 --> 01:12:54,160
Speaker 2: it in. That would be great. Oh of course he's

1533
01:12:54,160 --> 01:12:56,120
Speaker 2: at the ready. Good job at you. All right, let's

1534
01:12:56,160 --> 01:13:00,720
Speaker 2: start with this one. Are the Broncos wearing the right uniforms?

1535
01:13:01,040 --> 01:13:02,680
Speaker 3: No? Come on, no, come on.

1536
01:13:02,720 --> 01:13:05,479
Speaker 5: There are plenty of things that are When there are

1537
01:13:05,560 --> 01:13:08,080
Speaker 5: things are that good that they don't need to be

1538
01:13:08,800 --> 01:13:10,120
Speaker 5: kept special to stay special.

1539
01:13:10,120 --> 01:13:11,720
Speaker 3: It's just it's just the right thing to do.

1540
01:13:11,880 --> 01:13:13,599
Speaker 2: Tyler had a great tweet to us on then he said,

1541
01:13:13,600 --> 01:13:16,360
Speaker 2: regarding the Broncos orange, so let's buy a Ferrari, but

1542
01:13:16,479 --> 01:13:20,519
Speaker 2: drive the Taurus dailies. When I drive the horse, it's special. Yeah,

1543
01:13:20,800 --> 01:13:24,600
Speaker 2: totally totally ridiculous. I actually think they're whites would be

1544
01:13:24,720 --> 01:13:26,840
Speaker 2: really good too, and they don't use those the road

1545
01:13:26,880 --> 01:13:29,320
Speaker 2: whites that the light blue hat would be would be

1546
01:13:29,400 --> 01:13:31,920
Speaker 2: very good. G wants to know. Would we host Denver

1547
01:13:31,960 --> 01:13:32,880
Speaker 2: Broncos Daily?

1548
01:13:35,080 --> 01:13:40,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, DBD, DBD, DBD. We'd be up there Cherry Castle Pines.

1549
01:13:39,840 --> 01:13:41,599
Speaker 2: Castle Pines, living our best life.

1550
01:13:41,680 --> 01:13:44,880
Speaker 3: Who gets hurt? Absolutely? All right?

1551
01:13:45,080 --> 01:13:50,479
Speaker 2: Airport grade Denver f worse than America.

1552
01:13:50,800 --> 01:13:51,400
Speaker 3: No, it's not.

1553
01:13:51,880 --> 01:13:55,280
Speaker 2: Are you sure it's Are you sure it's not?

1554
01:13:56,400 --> 01:13:57,280
Speaker 3: No, I'm not sure.

1555
01:13:57,320 --> 01:14:00,360
Speaker 2: What is the one place in America? Is there a

1556
01:14:00,360 --> 01:14:03,879
Speaker 2: place in America you get that you have more anxiety

1557
01:14:03,920 --> 01:14:04,880
Speaker 2: flying through than Denver?

1558
01:14:08,479 --> 01:14:10,759
Speaker 3: Reagan national Reagan stuff.

1559
01:14:12,240 --> 01:14:13,720
Speaker 5: I mean, I've done and I've phoned in there are

1560
01:14:13,760 --> 01:14:15,960
Speaker 5: a long time, many many many many many times, and

1561
01:14:16,000 --> 01:14:19,280
Speaker 5: you're always like it's real tight in here, and obviously

1562
01:14:19,320 --> 01:14:22,360
Speaker 5: it is that awful tragedy helped they, I hoped, did

1563
01:14:22,439 --> 01:14:23,960
Speaker 5: they fixed that because.

1564
01:14:23,880 --> 01:14:26,080
Speaker 2: You miss a window at Reagan too, because there's three

1565
01:14:26,120 --> 01:14:28,120
Speaker 2: major airports there, like if you miss your That happened

1566
01:14:28,160 --> 01:14:30,120
Speaker 2: to us like two summers going to with South Carolina,

1567
01:14:30,400 --> 01:14:33,240
Speaker 2: flew through Reagan, missed the land window and had to

1568
01:14:33,280 --> 01:14:37,280
Speaker 2: circle for like another hour and a half because there's dulles. Reagan,

1569
01:14:37,360 --> 01:14:40,040
Speaker 2: BWI are all right there and so you just can't.

1570
01:14:40,400 --> 01:14:45,120
Speaker 3: No, it's it's nuts. So that would be one. LaGuardia.

1571
01:14:45,240 --> 01:14:47,120
Speaker 5: I know they've remodeled, I haven't been in it or

1572
01:14:47,200 --> 01:14:48,840
Speaker 5: the parts that have been remodel. If there's a while, well,

1573
01:14:48,880 --> 01:14:51,240
Speaker 5: LaGuardia was terrible, always the way it was awful.

1574
01:14:51,439 --> 01:14:53,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think for me it'stent. I've had by far

1575
01:14:53,760 --> 01:14:56,360
Speaker 2: the worst experiences flying in and out of Denver I've had.

1576
01:14:56,520 --> 01:14:59,040
Speaker 2: When NBC was two years old, he slept on my

1577
01:14:59,160 --> 01:15:02,560
Speaker 2: chest at the Denver airport because there were no hotels

1578
01:15:02,680 --> 01:15:03,320
Speaker 2: in Denver.

1579
01:15:03,520 --> 01:15:03,800
Speaker 3: For us.

1580
01:15:04,200 --> 01:15:06,799
Speaker 2: The closest hotel that anyone could get to me was Aspen.

1581
01:15:07,120 --> 01:15:08,800
Speaker 2: I'm like, do you know how far Aspen is from

1582
01:15:08,960 --> 01:15:13,360
Speaker 2: DA I hate the people movers. I hate how far

1583
01:15:13,520 --> 01:15:15,519
Speaker 2: it goes out this way all to come back to

1584
01:15:15,600 --> 01:15:18,679
Speaker 2: one central to connect. If you're in a different concourse.

1585
01:15:18,680 --> 01:15:20,880
Speaker 2: Forget it if you're on a short connect on a

1586
01:15:20,880 --> 01:15:21,960
Speaker 2: different concourse.

1587
01:15:21,800 --> 01:15:25,280
Speaker 3: Like Atlanta from that standpoint, but Atlanta.

1588
01:15:24,720 --> 01:15:28,240
Speaker 2: Atlanta, Yeah, at least they've got the train in Atlanta,

1589
01:15:28,280 --> 01:15:30,360
Speaker 2: the can Zipia from one to the next. I mean,

1590
01:15:30,439 --> 01:15:33,400
Speaker 2: Denver is a MESSI said Philly. I don't know that

1591
01:15:33,400 --> 01:15:35,000
Speaker 2: I've I've flown into Philly.

1592
01:15:35,040 --> 01:15:37,760
Speaker 3: I've driven into Philly.

1593
01:15:37,840 --> 01:15:40,360
Speaker 2: Here's the other thing Denver also has in the summer.

1594
01:15:40,840 --> 01:15:42,559
Speaker 2: I'm going to tell you this about Denver. In the summer,

1595
01:15:42,880 --> 01:15:47,200
Speaker 2: thunderstorms crazy because it's right coming off the rocky mountain front.

1596
01:15:47,200 --> 01:15:49,840
Speaker 2: So you get bombed, you can, you'd be all on

1597
01:15:49,920 --> 01:15:52,479
Speaker 2: time and all of a sudden up lightning shut it down.

1598
01:15:53,240 --> 01:15:55,799
Speaker 3: Blucifers there. Yes, big negative.

1599
01:15:56,880 --> 01:16:01,040
Speaker 5: And also in terms of this is you know, spoiled

1600
01:16:01,160 --> 01:16:06,599
Speaker 5: talk flying with the team, Denver is the only place

1601
01:16:06,960 --> 01:16:09,960
Speaker 5: that I can think of where we have to bus.

1602
01:16:09,960 --> 01:16:12,880
Speaker 5: We go into like this little hangar and we do

1603
01:16:13,000 --> 01:16:16,800
Speaker 5: our screening there and then we have to walk across

1604
01:16:16,880 --> 01:16:21,160
Speaker 5: the runway for forever to get to the plane, and

1605
01:16:21,200 --> 01:16:23,200
Speaker 5: we we we've been there when it's been quite cold,

1606
01:16:24,200 --> 01:16:27,320
Speaker 5: so it's like a miserable late at night. Why and

1607
01:16:27,360 --> 01:16:28,760
Speaker 5: the one when we went to La. We went from

1608
01:16:28,800 --> 01:16:31,759
Speaker 5: there right to LA two years ago. It was covered

1609
01:16:31,800 --> 01:16:36,000
Speaker 5: in ice. It was treacherous, didn't seem right.

1610
01:16:36,680 --> 01:16:38,640
Speaker 2: It's my worst. It's it's the worst one for me.

1611
01:16:39,720 --> 01:16:43,400
Speaker 2: Which Broncos player would you want on our team right now?

1612
01:16:43,439 --> 01:16:45,559
Speaker 2: You can take any one guy on their team and

1613
01:16:45,600 --> 01:16:46,680
Speaker 2: say he's a Cleveland.

1614
01:16:46,320 --> 01:16:50,479
Speaker 5: Brown, Bonix. It's a quarterback league. Solves it, Bonix. I mean,

1615
01:16:51,280 --> 01:16:54,880
Speaker 5: if we have our quarterback, if we're doing this, let's

1616
01:16:54,920 --> 01:16:59,599
Speaker 5: say May one and we've got your door, cam Moore did,

1617
01:16:59,640 --> 01:17:00,679
Speaker 5: I'd take PS two.

1618
01:17:00,920 --> 01:17:08,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, road trip to Denver Grade A. It's great, great, Yeah,

1619
01:17:08,800 --> 01:17:10,439
Speaker 2: once you get through the airport, it's awesome.

1620
01:17:10,479 --> 01:17:12,360
Speaker 5: And like I went to this cool place with my

1621
01:17:12,439 --> 01:17:14,800
Speaker 5: buddy to survey. We watched the games and it was

1622
01:17:15,960 --> 01:17:17,840
Speaker 5: like a high end food court and I remember I

1623
01:17:17,920 --> 01:17:21,400
Speaker 5: got to have ramed and tacos together.

1624
01:17:22,040 --> 01:17:26,479
Speaker 3: It was great enough.

1625
01:17:26,520 --> 01:17:29,440
Speaker 2: From the clown regarding the Denver uniforms in the comparison

1626
01:17:29,439 --> 01:17:31,920
Speaker 2: to a Ferrari, I actually have a Ferrari and trust me,

1627
01:17:32,080 --> 01:17:33,760
Speaker 2: driving it every day is spectacular.

1628
01:17:34,600 --> 01:17:36,479
Speaker 3: From the class great, that's beautiful.

1629
01:17:36,600 --> 01:17:38,360
Speaker 5: He also said, you want to know g Man for

1630
01:17:38,439 --> 01:17:40,439
Speaker 5: being so good, while Ghibbet has been gone.

1631
01:17:40,479 --> 01:17:42,440
Speaker 3: If we forgive his ye, we forgave.

1632
01:17:42,160 --> 01:17:44,840
Speaker 2: It a meet, forgot it, immediately gave it. Yeah, there's

1633
01:17:44,880 --> 01:17:48,879
Speaker 2: nothing to forgive. Historical favorite Bronco.

1634
01:17:56,120 --> 01:17:58,320
Speaker 5: This is going to be a little bit, probably fantasy

1635
01:17:58,360 --> 01:18:01,599
Speaker 5: related when I was really into it, Yeah, and I'd

1636
01:18:01,600 --> 01:18:04,760
Speaker 5: found him to be his personality to be hysterical at

1637
01:18:04,760 --> 01:18:05,040
Speaker 5: the time.

1638
01:18:05,160 --> 01:18:07,919
Speaker 3: Clinton Portis, I loved Clinton.

1639
01:18:07,720 --> 01:18:11,000
Speaker 5: Portis and also and they traded him, if you remember him,

1640
01:18:11,080 --> 01:18:13,120
Speaker 5: Champ Bailey for Portis like one for one and it

1641
01:18:13,200 --> 01:18:14,800
Speaker 5: was kind of a win win trade.

1642
01:18:14,840 --> 01:18:17,000
Speaker 2: I was just gonna say, probably the only example I

1643
01:18:17,000 --> 01:18:20,000
Speaker 2: can think of an NFL history where two stars were

1644
01:18:20,040 --> 01:18:24,000
Speaker 2: traded for each other and it worked for both.

1645
01:18:24,320 --> 01:18:25,519
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1646
01:18:25,680 --> 01:18:31,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, Portis was a stud stud. Champ Bailey stud stud. Yeah, No,

1647
01:18:32,120 --> 01:18:36,680
Speaker 2: that's it. Yeah, Champ Bailey would probably be It's so

1648
01:18:36,880 --> 01:18:39,639
Speaker 2: strange to me, I don't think of Manning as a Bronco,

1649
01:18:40,240 --> 01:18:42,840
Speaker 2: even though he probably had his singular best season as

1650
01:18:42,880 --> 01:18:45,360
Speaker 2: a Denver Bronco and chose to raise his family there

1651
01:18:45,360 --> 01:18:46,599
Speaker 2: and lived there and Peyton.

1652
01:18:46,720 --> 01:18:47,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I don't.

1653
01:18:47,600 --> 01:18:50,800
Speaker 2: I don't think of him as a Bronco. He's just

1654
01:18:50,840 --> 01:18:53,919
Speaker 2: a cult to me. But you know, his best individual

1655
01:18:53,960 --> 01:18:57,160
Speaker 2: season was I think of him as a Bronco, and

1656
01:18:57,200 --> 01:18:59,360
Speaker 2: I think of Portis as I think I think I

1657
01:18:59,360 --> 01:19:02,840
Speaker 2: think of him as a Red Skin is probably the

1658
01:19:02,880 --> 01:19:03,200
Speaker 2: way that.

1659
01:19:03,160 --> 01:19:06,560
Speaker 5: I mean he spent more time there with the Redskins.

1660
01:19:06,960 --> 01:19:09,439
Speaker 5: Portis said, uh huh, yeah, it was only with So

1661
01:19:09,479 --> 01:19:13,679
Speaker 5: he gets traded by Denver to Washington for Champ Bailey

1662
01:19:14,520 --> 01:19:17,160
Speaker 5: after a year in which he ran for sixteen hundred

1663
01:19:17,200 --> 01:19:19,519
Speaker 5: yards fourteen touchdowns, and it was his second straight year

1664
01:19:19,520 --> 01:19:21,920
Speaker 5: in the league averaging five point five yards carry. Clintport

1665
01:19:22,000 --> 01:19:23,439
Speaker 5: Is his first two years in the league. We're fifteen

1666
01:19:23,479 --> 01:19:26,599
Speaker 5: oh eight and fifteen five point five carry, fifteen ninety

1667
01:19:26,600 --> 01:19:29,200
Speaker 5: one and fourteen five point five of Carrey gets traded

1668
01:19:29,240 --> 01:19:31,640
Speaker 5: to Washington, gets hurt or has a little bit of

1669
01:19:31,680 --> 01:19:34,120
Speaker 5: a slow year thirteen hundred and fifteen yards, five touchdowns.

1670
01:19:34,160 --> 01:19:36,840
Speaker 5: Then he goes another fifteen sixteen and eleven, twelve sixty

1671
01:19:36,840 --> 01:19:38,679
Speaker 5: two and eleven, fourteen eighty seven and nine.

1672
01:19:38,880 --> 01:19:40,759
Speaker 3: Stud he was a stud, But I mean.

1673
01:19:40,840 --> 01:19:43,439
Speaker 2: Champ Bailey's a Champ Bailey's a hof a gold jacket.

1674
01:19:43,600 --> 01:19:47,200
Speaker 2: Here's a gold jacket. All right, there you go. We'll

1675
01:19:47,200 --> 01:19:52,360
Speaker 2: con continue our AFC team reviews previews tomorrow. We'll hit

1676
01:19:52,400 --> 01:19:56,000
Speaker 2: a three round mock from Chad Reuter. Also, we'll have

1677
01:19:56,000 --> 01:19:58,560
Speaker 2: a little audio to share with you from Daniel Jeremiah

1678
01:19:58,560 --> 01:20:00,400
Speaker 2: on the quarterbacks in Jordan Palmer as well.

1679
01:20:00,439 --> 01:20:03,479
Speaker 3: Go ahead, Okay, first three years in Denver he gets traded.

1680
01:20:04,080 --> 01:20:06,400
Speaker 5: He'd been a pro bowler every year in the league.

1681
01:20:06,640 --> 01:20:09,280
Speaker 5: This is Champ Champ Bailey first three years in Denver.

1682
01:20:09,320 --> 01:20:11,920
Speaker 5: The first season he has three picks, second season he

1683
01:20:11,960 --> 01:20:14,240
Speaker 5: has eight picks and one hundred and thirty nine recept

1684
01:20:14,280 --> 01:20:17,360
Speaker 5: return yards and two touchdowns. And then his thirty year

1685
01:20:17,360 --> 01:20:20,200
Speaker 5: he leads the league with ten picks. He had eighteen

1686
01:20:20,240 --> 01:20:23,320
Speaker 5: picks over two seasons, twicks.

1687
01:20:22,880 --> 01:20:25,760
Speaker 2: Ten interceptions. Yeah, do you remember what his brother's name was.

1688
01:20:28,240 --> 01:20:29,720
Speaker 2: They both played at Georgia.

1689
01:20:31,000 --> 01:20:33,839
Speaker 3: Thurle Boss Boss Bailey.

1690
01:20:34,320 --> 01:20:35,880
Speaker 2: Champ Bailey and Boss Bailey.

1691
01:20:35,920 --> 01:20:37,760
Speaker 3: It's pretty good. Boss Bailey not quite as good as Champ,

1692
01:20:37,800 --> 01:20:38,240
Speaker 3: but those are good.

1693
01:20:38,280 --> 01:20:40,920
Speaker 2: They're both They're both real good.

1694
01:20:41,600 --> 01:20:44,439
Speaker 5: Really anyway, I know Thurl Bailey was not his brother,

1695
01:20:44,600 --> 01:20:46,560
Speaker 5: but was a very tall player.

1696
01:20:46,240 --> 01:20:49,840
Speaker 2: For the Incredible Yeah. Uh, I think you name your

1697
01:20:49,920 --> 01:20:52,880
Speaker 2: kids Boss and Champ, they better be. That's one of

1698
01:20:52,920 --> 01:20:54,920
Speaker 2: the instance where you name them and then it actually

1699
01:20:54,920 --> 01:20:57,479
Speaker 2: they actually deliver those Boss Bailey was.

1700
01:20:57,479 --> 01:20:58,360
Speaker 3: He good in the NFL?

1701
01:20:58,400 --> 01:20:59,680
Speaker 2: I don't remember. If he's good in the NFL. He's

1702
01:20:59,760 --> 01:21:00,599
Speaker 2: damn at Georgia.

1703
01:21:00,960 --> 01:21:02,679
Speaker 3: Boss Bailey five years in the league.

1704
01:21:03,760 --> 01:21:07,200
Speaker 5: Was a second round pick of the Lions, a linebacker.

1705
01:21:09,000 --> 01:21:12,200
Speaker 5: An not to the league though, but like Peerless Price

1706
01:21:12,240 --> 01:21:14,040
Speaker 5: for example, who also got to the league.

1707
01:21:14,240 --> 01:21:15,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, but he had many.

1708
01:21:15,400 --> 01:21:18,759
Speaker 2: Peers, Yeah he did. He's not without peer no great names.

1709
01:21:19,800 --> 01:21:21,439
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1720
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Speaker 2: Jeremiah on his Move the Sticks podcast and his reasoning

1721
01:22:20,080 --> 01:22:22,759
Speaker 2: of mocking cam Ward to the Cleveland Browns.

1722
01:22:23,120 --> 01:22:26,439
Speaker 8: Cleveland. Now this was again mock drafts. Doing it from

1723
01:22:26,439 --> 01:22:29,200
Speaker 8: talking to people using my ears was Okay, they need

1724
01:22:29,240 --> 01:22:31,800
Speaker 8: a cheap quarterback. I had previously put them without a

1725
01:22:31,880 --> 01:22:35,200
Speaker 8: quarterback because the kirk Cousins connection was Tofanski, and then, okay,

1726
01:22:35,240 --> 01:22:36,840
Speaker 8: that could make sense. They wouldn't have to pay kirk

1727
01:22:36,840 --> 01:22:39,200
Speaker 8: Cousins much. But this was more like, you know, their

1728
01:22:39,280 --> 01:22:40,960
Speaker 8: roster with where it is, and if they're not going

1729
01:22:41,040 --> 01:22:43,240
Speaker 8: to trade Miles Garrett, there's no guarantees they're going to

1730
01:22:43,280 --> 01:22:45,200
Speaker 8: be up here again. This was a playoff team two

1731
01:22:45,240 --> 01:22:47,120
Speaker 8: years ago. They just need to get They need an

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01:22:47,200 --> 01:22:50,479
Speaker 8: upgraded quarterback. Can they get somebody this was the phrase

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01:22:50,520 --> 01:22:53,519
Speaker 8: it was used. Can they get bow Nick's style upside

1734
01:22:53,520 --> 01:22:55,599
Speaker 8: with the player? And you know what, I think absolutely

1735
01:22:55,640 --> 01:22:58,080
Speaker 8: cam Ward can eventually get to, you know where bo

1736
01:22:58,200 --> 01:23:00,559
Speaker 8: Nix has already gotten to with the Denver. So it's

1737
01:23:00,560 --> 01:23:01,840
Speaker 8: a cheap quarterback makes sense?

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01:23:03,800 --> 01:23:04,519
Speaker 2: All right? There you go.

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01:23:04,680 --> 01:23:07,240
Speaker 5: Interesting the way he phrases that. I think that like

1740
01:23:07,640 --> 01:23:11,000
Speaker 5: number you're picking second. This guy is the number eleven

1741
01:23:11,080 --> 01:23:12,840
Speaker 5: player on Daniel Jeremiah's big board.

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01:23:13,200 --> 01:23:14,320
Speaker 3: Chador is number twelve.

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01:23:15,200 --> 01:23:20,520
Speaker 5: Because of their positional importance, They're not only worth the eleventh.

1744
01:23:20,240 --> 01:23:22,080
Speaker 3: Or twelfth pick. I mean, that's just not how it works.

1745
01:23:22,680 --> 01:23:24,360
Speaker 2: We keep saying this over and over again. But it's

1746
01:23:24,360 --> 01:23:27,439
Speaker 2: not like these guys are are slotted on overall rankings

1747
01:23:27,439 --> 01:23:30,800
Speaker 2: in the seventies and you're reaching for them at two. No,

1748
01:23:31,000 --> 01:23:33,280
Speaker 2: I think Jeremiah has him the lowest of anybody. Most

1749
01:23:33,280 --> 01:23:35,000
Speaker 2: people have him in the top ten. He's got him

1750
01:23:35,000 --> 01:23:37,200
Speaker 2: eleven and twelve. Most people have him Kaiper has him

1751
01:23:37,200 --> 01:23:39,719
Speaker 2: as a three and four overall. I think this isn't reaching.

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01:23:39,880 --> 01:23:39,960
Speaker 9: No.

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01:23:40,240 --> 01:23:43,439
Speaker 5: Zerolene has Chador down a little lower, but he's in

1754
01:23:43,479 --> 01:23:46,160
Speaker 5: a clump of people where because he's a quarterback, it's

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01:23:46,160 --> 01:23:47,040
Speaker 5: actually much higher.

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01:23:47,240 --> 01:23:47,920
Speaker 3: Yes than that.

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01:23:48,680 --> 01:23:51,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, Jordan Palmer was on the Rich Eisen Show and

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01:23:51,800 --> 01:23:55,040
Speaker 2: broke down cam and Shador. Here he is first on

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01:23:55,120 --> 01:23:57,880
Speaker 2: cam Ward. I think cam wore can play. I think

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01:23:58,240 --> 01:24:00,559
Speaker 2: I'm really excited to see him transition, and I think

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01:24:00,600 --> 01:24:02,679
Speaker 2: it's rare that you have somebody go to three different

1762
01:24:02,680 --> 01:24:05,800
Speaker 2: spots and play the exact same way. He just kind

1763
01:24:05,800 --> 01:24:09,599
Speaker 2: of like dominated at Incarnate Word, Washington State and then

1764
01:24:09,880 --> 01:24:13,320
Speaker 2: lastly at Miami. I think the thing that's most distorting

1765
01:24:13,400 --> 01:24:18,760
Speaker 2: about cam Ward, and it's not to suggest that that

1766
01:24:18,920 --> 01:24:20,599
Speaker 2: he's that there's going to be that this is any

1767
01:24:20,600 --> 01:24:22,519
Speaker 2: sort of harborger of things to come for him. But

1768
01:24:22,680 --> 01:24:25,240
Speaker 2: a year ago, at this time leaving Washington State, he

1769
01:24:25,360 --> 01:24:29,840
Speaker 2: was viewed as undraftable, which is wild, right, not draftable.

1770
01:24:29,960 --> 01:24:33,599
Speaker 2: Plays one year at Miami and now is and that's awesome.

1771
01:24:33,600 --> 01:24:35,920
Speaker 2: That's a credit to the kid. But to me, it's

1772
01:24:35,960 --> 01:24:38,280
Speaker 2: more something must have been wrong in the process last

1773
01:24:38,320 --> 01:24:40,920
Speaker 2: year that led him to believe that he was undraftable

1774
01:24:40,920 --> 01:24:44,759
Speaker 2: a year ago, and now he's going to go one, two, three.

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01:24:44,960 --> 01:24:45,240
Speaker 3: Yep.

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01:24:46,720 --> 01:24:48,439
Speaker 2: Here is Jordan Palmer on Shudur.

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01:24:49,000 --> 01:24:50,920
Speaker 3: I think shooter is just my word for him. Is

1778
01:24:50,960 --> 01:24:51,640
Speaker 3: just fascinating.

1779
01:24:51,720 --> 01:24:53,559
Speaker 9: I remember I was on this thing a long time ago.

1780
01:24:53,600 --> 01:24:56,280
Speaker 9: It was called the NFL Legends Youth Advisory Committee. Troy

1781
01:24:56,360 --> 01:24:58,360
Speaker 9: Vincent put this group of people together and we would

1782
01:24:58,400 --> 01:25:00,280
Speaker 9: talk about the growth of football and all that stuff.

1783
01:25:00,280 --> 01:25:01,960
Speaker 9: And we beat Quarterly and it was the only not

1784
01:25:02,000 --> 01:25:05,920
Speaker 9: famous person there. So this is Prime was was on it. Okay,

1785
01:25:06,040 --> 01:25:07,840
Speaker 9: wasn't coach Prime. He was Prime, yep.

1786
01:25:07,920 --> 01:25:09,520
Speaker 3: But you know Willie.

1787
01:25:09,280 --> 01:25:11,760
Speaker 9: McGuinness and Nate Burlison before he was on TV and

1788
01:25:11,800 --> 01:25:14,160
Speaker 9: all these guys and Seach and uh and I remember

1789
01:25:14,200 --> 01:25:16,320
Speaker 9: we had a fifteen minute break and Prime goes, hey,

1790
01:25:16,479 --> 01:25:18,600
Speaker 9: let me show you my seventh grader. So like I

1791
01:25:18,840 --> 01:25:21,679
Speaker 9: started paying attention to Shadeur then and I go, can

1792
01:25:21,680 --> 01:25:22,280
Speaker 9: he move like you?

1793
01:25:22,360 --> 01:25:25,559
Speaker 3: He goes, nobody can play like Brady.

1794
01:25:26,040 --> 01:25:30,240
Speaker 2: That's awesome. You got to say like to be, to

1795
01:25:30,320 --> 01:25:35,760
Speaker 2: be identified, curated, developed, and then to deliver. Shador has

1796
01:25:35,800 --> 01:25:39,120
Speaker 2: been under unlike cam Ward who and not to say

1797
01:25:39,120 --> 01:25:41,920
Speaker 2: one works one doesn't. Josh Ward came, Josha Allen came

1798
01:25:41,920 --> 01:25:44,920
Speaker 2: from complete obscurity in Wyoming to be what he's been.

1799
01:25:45,240 --> 01:25:48,200
Speaker 2: But for cam Ward to go from incarnate word to

1800
01:25:48,360 --> 01:25:51,920
Speaker 2: Washington State to Miami to number one, Shadur has been

1801
01:25:52,040 --> 01:25:53,960
Speaker 2: in the mic under the microscope since he was in

1802
01:25:54,040 --> 01:25:57,960
Speaker 2: high school. Yep, yep, And that's there's There is something

1803
01:25:58,000 --> 01:26:00,479
Speaker 2: to both paths. Not one isn't better than the more

1804
01:26:00,560 --> 01:26:02,360
Speaker 2: valuable or worth more than the other. No, they're not

1805
01:26:02,360 --> 01:26:04,799
Speaker 2: a harbinger of things to come. It's just so different

1806
01:26:04,840 --> 01:26:07,519
Speaker 2: the two pass the two players took to get to

1807
01:26:07,560 --> 01:26:08,000
Speaker 2: this point.

1808
01:26:08,200 --> 01:26:10,360
Speaker 5: It's interesting too to me. I've seen a lot of people,

1809
01:26:10,439 --> 01:26:12,920
Speaker 5: you know, come out with the definitive. You know that

1810
01:26:13,920 --> 01:26:17,800
Speaker 5: these two quarterbacks are grossly over hyped. I would you know,

1811
01:26:18,200 --> 01:26:20,160
Speaker 5: I can't draft it's a waste of a pigot too.

1812
01:26:20,520 --> 01:26:23,400
Speaker 5: I'd love to get like, why do you feel that way?

1813
01:26:23,439 --> 01:26:25,880
Speaker 5: What tape did you watch? What didn't you like about

1814
01:26:25,920 --> 01:26:28,479
Speaker 5: what you saw? In particular games?

1815
01:26:29,479 --> 01:26:29,680
Speaker 3: You know?

1816
01:26:29,840 --> 01:26:31,880
Speaker 5: I mean, I have like all the plays that listed

1817
01:26:31,920 --> 01:26:34,759
Speaker 5: out good, good, and bad for both of those guys,

1818
01:26:35,560 --> 01:26:38,240
Speaker 5: and then you're able to kind of form a thought

1819
01:26:38,360 --> 01:26:40,080
Speaker 5: about it. And I try to not go with any

1820
01:26:40,120 --> 01:26:43,080
Speaker 5: preconceived notions. I try to go all right, see what

1821
01:26:43,120 --> 01:26:44,639
Speaker 5: the trends are, and sometimes you do it just based

1822
01:26:44,640 --> 01:26:46,320
Speaker 5: off the plays. Then as you read through your write

1823
01:26:46,360 --> 01:26:48,639
Speaker 5: up of each play, you're like, this thing keeps coming

1824
01:26:48,720 --> 01:26:51,719
Speaker 5: up great, accurate. I've heard people say he's not accurate.

1825
01:26:51,760 --> 01:26:55,360
Speaker 5: The guy is incredibly accurate. His ball placement is elite.

1826
01:26:55,439 --> 01:26:57,080
Speaker 2: You know, what might follow up to that question be

1827
01:26:57,120 --> 01:26:58,760
Speaker 2: to the people who said that to you, or that

1828
01:26:59,160 --> 01:27:01,639
Speaker 2: we're saying that that you noticed. My follow up would

1829
01:27:01,640 --> 01:27:06,800
Speaker 2: be what makes you sure abdul Carter is right? So

1830
01:27:06,880 --> 01:27:09,840
Speaker 2: if you're so certain that these two quarterbacks are overrated,

1831
01:27:10,320 --> 01:27:12,760
Speaker 2: what makes you sure he isn't? And by the way,

1832
01:27:12,800 --> 01:27:14,439
Speaker 2: would you if you were to go back in time

1833
01:27:14,520 --> 01:27:19,000
Speaker 2: and look at Chase Young, would you also say Chase Young.

1834
01:27:20,040 --> 01:27:22,599
Speaker 5: Because there's no shirt. Of course, we've been saying a thousand.

1835
01:27:23,080 --> 01:27:24,559
Speaker 5: There no shirt things in the draft. The only shirt

1836
01:27:24,560 --> 01:27:26,679
Speaker 5: thing is you cannot win this league without a quarterback.

1837
01:27:26,720 --> 01:27:29,680
Speaker 5: That's it, and that's a good quarterback. Jadevian went number one.

1838
01:27:29,720 --> 01:27:31,760
Speaker 5: He was the surest thing in the defensive line. Ever,

1839
01:27:31,960 --> 01:27:34,639
Speaker 5: if you if you go back to what Jeremiah said,

1840
01:27:36,280 --> 01:27:39,479
Speaker 5: we hope that we're not picking here again. This is

1841
01:27:40,479 --> 01:27:43,120
Speaker 5: this is the life raft you've gotten for being three

1842
01:27:43,120 --> 01:27:43,759
Speaker 5: and fourteen.

1843
01:27:45,640 --> 01:27:47,360
Speaker 3: The first year you have a first round pick. Again,

1844
01:27:47,439 --> 01:27:50,519
Speaker 3: you're back right at the top. You need a.

1845
01:27:50,560 --> 01:27:54,479
Speaker 5: Quarterback so so badly. Yeah, and there are quarterbacks in

1846
01:27:54,520 --> 01:27:56,000
Speaker 5: this draft that can help you. And everybody's like, oh,

1847
01:27:56,000 --> 01:27:57,840
Speaker 5: you got to take this and then trade down. And

1848
01:27:57,880 --> 01:28:00,880
Speaker 5: I would even say even in the Miles and Miles

1849
01:28:00,880 --> 01:28:04,680
Speaker 5: Garrett is a one hundred lock, I think on his

1850
01:28:04,720 --> 01:28:07,759
Speaker 5: way Hall of Famer, all of that worth the number

1851
01:28:07,760 --> 01:28:11,400
Speaker 5: one pick completely. But in that draft, the Browns ended

1852
01:28:11,479 --> 01:28:14,400
Speaker 5: up getting Miles and then they got ended up getting

1853
01:28:14,400 --> 01:28:15,840
Speaker 5: a bunch of different first round picks. And I think

1854
01:28:15,840 --> 01:28:19,920
Speaker 5: in the second round you got Deshaun Kaiser, who isolate.

1855
01:28:20,040 --> 01:28:23,760
Speaker 5: DeShawn could have been good in other situations, not ours, unfortunately,

1856
01:28:24,280 --> 01:28:27,040
Speaker 5: but you also had Patrick Mahomes in.

1857
01:28:26,960 --> 01:28:30,479
Speaker 2: That draft, yeah, and DeShawn right.

1858
01:28:30,360 --> 01:28:34,160
Speaker 5: And like, the reality is there's a world in which

1859
01:28:35,080 --> 01:28:38,160
Speaker 5: you could have, you know, done your trade out of twelve,

1860
01:28:38,720 --> 01:28:40,559
Speaker 5: taken Mahomes at one, done your trade out at twelve,

1861
01:28:40,600 --> 01:28:45,080
Speaker 5: and ended up with you know, David Njoku, Mahomes and

1862
01:28:45,200 --> 01:28:45,439
Speaker 5: t J.

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01:28:45,560 --> 01:28:45,880
Speaker 3: Watt.

1864
01:28:46,080 --> 01:28:48,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, right, you on that revision because oh, well, you

1865
01:28:48,920 --> 01:28:51,400
Speaker 5: cherry picked all the best stuff in the draft. But sure,

1866
01:28:51,680 --> 01:28:56,720
Speaker 5: but that's why it is such an inexact science. And

1867
01:28:56,760 --> 01:28:59,519
Speaker 5: it also you look at the combined records in the

1868
01:28:59,520 --> 01:29:01,759
Speaker 5: postseason and of Miles and TJ.

1869
01:29:01,880 --> 01:29:04,200
Speaker 3: Watt, it's that good. And the reason is they have

1870
01:29:04,240 --> 01:29:06,639
Speaker 3: not had the quarterback play on the level that they

1871
01:29:06,840 --> 01:29:07,280
Speaker 3: needed to.

1872
01:29:07,760 --> 01:29:11,080
Speaker 2: And that's that's it, and that's why that's the operation.

1873
01:29:11,320 --> 01:29:12,200
Speaker 3: You want to keep Miles.

1874
01:29:12,640 --> 01:29:15,639
Speaker 5: I think the guy is the best player on this

1875
01:29:15,880 --> 01:29:18,080
Speaker 5: team and if the best defensive player in the league.

1876
01:29:19,240 --> 01:29:21,040
Speaker 5: So yet you want to keep him. And the way

1877
01:29:21,040 --> 01:29:23,960
Speaker 5: that you entice him is by drafting a quarterback who

1878
01:29:24,360 --> 01:29:26,320
Speaker 5: can turn this thing around, like both of the last

1879
01:29:26,320 --> 01:29:27,280
Speaker 5: two number two picks.

1880
01:29:27,840 --> 01:29:29,400
Speaker 3: The revision is history.

1881
01:29:29,120 --> 01:29:31,360
Speaker 5: To me on and you were there with me at

1882
01:29:31,360 --> 01:29:36,600
Speaker 5: the combine both times as well, that Stroud and Daniels

1883
01:29:37,400 --> 01:29:41,400
Speaker 5: were considered to be same as Bryce Young or Caleb

1884
01:29:41,439 --> 01:29:43,479
Speaker 5: Williams or just automatic locks.

1885
01:29:43,720 --> 01:29:46,880
Speaker 3: You have to take them second. Overall, it wasn't like that.

1886
01:29:46,800 --> 01:29:50,360
Speaker 2: Not at all. No, damn stretch, that's just the truth.

1887
01:29:50,680 --> 01:29:50,800
Speaker 3: No.

1888
01:29:50,880 --> 01:29:55,360
Speaker 5: But now Reson's because it's all revision, is history and hindsight,

1889
01:29:55,400 --> 01:29:57,320
Speaker 5: as they say, is is twenty twenty.

1890
01:29:57,479 --> 01:29:59,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, so much more to come clean them around sly

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