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Speaker 1: Hello everyone, to walk to episode ninety nine of the

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Speaker 1: Hammor Territory podcast. I am your host, Brad Roland, coming

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Speaker 1: to you on a Sunday evening here in the middle

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Speaker 1: of October, and I'm joined as I always am, by

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Speaker 1: Scott Coleman. Scott, it's the first time we've done a

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Speaker 1: show for a while where there really isn't anything terribly pressing,

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Speaker 1: And basically, Scott, welcome to the off season.

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Speaker 2: I suppose, hey, Brad, welcome to the off season. Indeed,

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Speaker 2: let's hope for a very busy winter ahead for the

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Speaker 2: Atlanta Braves. But yeah, this is gonna be a show

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Speaker 2: where we got some stuff to talk about. We're gonna, uh,

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Speaker 2: you know, usually we kind of have some structure to

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Speaker 2: tonight we have a couple of things we want to

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Speaker 2: talk about, but we are gonna just kind of free

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Speaker 2: wheel it and see how it goes. But I hope

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Speaker 2: you and I hope everybody out there are doing well.

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Speaker 1: Yes, strongly agree with that, and we should say at

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Speaker 1: the top of the show we are part of the

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Speaker 1: Foul Territory network of podcasts. Please go ahead and subscribe

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Speaker 1: We should also say welcome to the newest show on

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Speaker 1: the fu to Territory network. The Tigers Show is now

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Speaker 1: on board. The network grows all the time. I guess

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Speaker 1: bad time for the Tigers show because they they just lost.

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Speaker 1: But hey, heck of a run for the Tigers. And

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Speaker 1: people don't know this. It's public maybe it's actually unplaned.

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Speaker 1: With the shirt that I have on right now, I'm

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Speaker 1: a Michigan fan, which is public knowledge. My dad's Tigers fan,

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Speaker 1: so maybe I should be a Tigers fan. I'm not

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Speaker 1: a Tigers fan, but if I had a second team,

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Speaker 1: it's part of the Tigers. It's kind of like your Diamondbacks.

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Speaker 1: It's like my Tigers, So go Tigers.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, hey, it's you know, Tiger's bright future came out

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Speaker 2: of nowhere this playoffs and really the last month of

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Speaker 2: the season, and they have a very bright future ahead.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, always cool.

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Speaker 2: We've said it a few times, but the guys and

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Speaker 2: gals behind the scenes at Foul Territory have been great partners,

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Speaker 2: and I mean you mentioned it off the top, Brad.

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Speaker 2: This is episode ninety nine for us as a show.

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Speaker 2: I think we've actually had some bonus episodes that don't

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Speaker 2: necessarily count towards like the total. So I think we're

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Speaker 2: above one hundred shows, and you and I and Steven

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Speaker 2: and Sean. It's been a busy last six months, but man,

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Speaker 1: That's right, including three last weeks if you are just

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Speaker 1: catching up now, we had plenty of content last week,

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Speaker 1: both kind of react to the end of the season.

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Speaker 1: You know, I talked on Thursday about the dismissal of

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Speaker 1: is still fresh in reaction on Thursday. But anyway, we'll

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Speaker 1: to him as my old friend, my old friend, John Hayman,

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Speaker 1: John and I don't like each other very much. That's okay, hi, John.

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Speaker 1: He reported that Williadamas, the Brewers shortstop quote, has been

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Speaker 1: Yeah, John, if you're listening, do you want to come

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Speaker 1: But yeah, adamis is really interesting. I mean, you said

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Speaker 1: Dancey's more defensively, but he got As people probably know

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Speaker 1: this listening to this podcast, Danceby got seven years and

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Speaker 2: I think if you're looking for comps, a Damas is

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Speaker 2: take that if you want to sign him.

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Speaker 1: So there's more to get to on this, and we're

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Speaker 1: going to go crazy crazy people in the wall of Damas,

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Speaker 2: I think eventually Adamis gets more than what that projection

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Speaker 1: Yeah. And part of the appeal we'll not have to

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 2: And the other thing about shortstops that I wanted to

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Speaker 2: would they have liked to get a shortstop last winner

431
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Speaker 2: in a vacuum?

432
00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:23,200
Speaker 1: I think the answer is probably yes. But he understands

433
00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:24,919
Speaker 1: how hard it is. And you could look at our

434
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Speaker 1: CCA from the previous year and say, hey, Orlando, if

435
00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:29,119
Speaker 1: you do that again, we're good, We're fine. And if

436
00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:31,520
Speaker 1: he did that again, we wouldn't be as eager to

437
00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:33,960
Speaker 1: replace it. Would we talk about an upgrade there? Yeah,

438
00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:35,679
Speaker 1: we did it last winter on our on our old podcast,

439
00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:38,040
Speaker 1: we talked about, hey, it'd be great to upgrade on OURCIA,

440
00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:41,040
Speaker 1: but the urgency level wasn't there because he had just

441
00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:43,960
Speaker 1: come off a reasonable season at the plate. If he

442
00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:45,840
Speaker 1: has a seventy w RC plus like he did this year,

443
00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:48,960
Speaker 1: it's kind of hard to argue that. So internal projections

444
00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:50,560
Speaker 1: on what he actually is like they take this, But

445
00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:52,240
Speaker 1: the only reason why it's not like a slam dunk,

446
00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:55,000
Speaker 1: even if we want it to be to replace Arcia,

447
00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:56,679
Speaker 1: it's just like you have to find someone and be

448
00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:59,200
Speaker 1: able to either pay them in for agency or trade

449
00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:01,600
Speaker 1: for them. And trade costs are gonna be a lot too.

450
00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:03,840
Speaker 1: So we're not saying they don't that they don't do it,

451
00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:06,480
Speaker 1: but if you're anybody you're trying to trade for that

452
00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:09,439
Speaker 1: is obviously like way better than Arcia is going to

453
00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:13,439
Speaker 1: cost a lot, either in frequency or entry. And it

454
00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:15,919
Speaker 1: really comes down to do you want to spend or

455
00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:21,359
Speaker 1: maybe overspend in free agency and in dollars, or do

456
00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:23,720
Speaker 1: you want to thin out your farm system in order

457
00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:26,639
Speaker 1: to try and make a trade for shortstop. You know

458
00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:28,639
Speaker 1: there's pros, there's pros and cons to both.

459
00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:31,440
Speaker 2: There you know they're they're presumably a couple of young

460
00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:34,560
Speaker 2: shortstops in the upper levels of the minor leagues that

461
00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:37,280
Speaker 2: Alex might be interested in looking at. You know, maybe

462
00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:40,720
Speaker 2: the Braves could use some of their pitching death in

463
00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:43,800
Speaker 2: Gwinnett in order to swing a trade. You know. Again,

464
00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:47,840
Speaker 2: maybe that's for another podcast this winter, but I think

465
00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:52,120
Speaker 2: it's pretty clear that shortstop is maybe the priority on offense.

466
00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:55,359
Speaker 2: There is a log jam in the outfield, and there's

467
00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:57,880
Speaker 2: a lot of ways they could go to try to

468
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Speaker 2: clear some of that log jam up. There's also the

469
00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:04,040
Speaker 2: ten million dollar question of Ron Rakunya's knee health and

470
00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:07,440
Speaker 2: if he's going to be one hundred percent, eighty percent,

471
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Speaker 2: fifty percent, we just don't know. And the one other

472
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Speaker 2: player who we wanted to quickly touch on in free

473
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Speaker 2: agency is Hasan Kim.

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Speaker 1: Now, he may not.

475
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Speaker 2: Be a super familiar name to fans, although Kim's very good.

476
00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:27,920
Speaker 2: He was with the San Diego Padres the last four seasons.

477
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Speaker 2: One note is that he just underwent shoulder surgery and

478
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Speaker 2: he will likely miss maybe the first month of next season.

479
00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:41,040
Speaker 2: He's also represented by Scott Boris, which is not great

480
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Speaker 2: Historically there has not been much conversation between Boris and

481
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Speaker 2: Alex Enthopolis. But it doesn't mean it's an automatic no.

482
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Speaker 2: But Hastan Kim very good overall shortstop. I'd say, average

483
00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:58,960
Speaker 2: ish hitter, good on base percentage, he walks a ton,

484
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Speaker 2: his defense is good. He's a pretty fast base runner

485
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Speaker 2: as well. And I think, I mean, if you tell

486
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Speaker 2: me that Kim is going to get something like four

487
00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:10,880
Speaker 2: years and maybe eighty million dollars in free agency compared

488
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Speaker 2: to say seven years and one hundred and seventy five

489
00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:16,440
Speaker 2: million that a Damis might command, I think there is

490
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Speaker 2: going to be some kind of interest from the Braves

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Speaker 2: in that regard.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and then it's all about price point. I'm with you.

493
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Speaker 1: He's obviously worse, but you could argue he's a little

494
00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:27,800
Speaker 1: bit even more projectable in some ways. The defense maybe

495
00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:30,280
Speaker 1: maybe better. Offensively, he's not quite the same player, but

496
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Speaker 1: maybe the shorterers injury recovery dims the market on him

497
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Speaker 1: enough where it becomes a value that's definitely possible. There's

498
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Speaker 1: a little bit of give and take there. But as

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Speaker 1: I will probably argue again, even though you're gonna get

500
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Speaker 1: mad at me, Scott Orlando Arcia makes two million dollars

501
00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:49,120
Speaker 1: if he has to start for you for a month,

502
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Speaker 1: the shortstop, that's okay, it's fine, that's for a month,

503
00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:54,080
Speaker 1: you know, you know what I mean? Yeah, Yeah, I'm

504
00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:56,119
Speaker 1: up saying on the on the Hassan Kim thing, like

505
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Speaker 1: you can or see it gives you more runway than

506
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Speaker 1: a lot of teams would have like to sign a

507
00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:04,040
Speaker 1: guy who is currently injured because you know that it

508
00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:07,080
Speaker 1: may not be a great long term solution, but if

509
00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:10,639
Speaker 1: you get an injury to somebody, like even as much

510
00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:13,920
Speaker 1: as we have picked on Orlando in recent months, he's

511
00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:17,400
Speaker 1: a very overqualified backup infielder making two million dollars a year,

512
00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:21,000
Speaker 1: So like there's some there's some flexibility there. I don't know,

513
00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:23,440
Speaker 1: i'd be interested. I don't. I don't know what the

514
00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:26,359
Speaker 1: projections even are thinking with Hassan Kim, Like I'm trying

515
00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:29,520
Speaker 1: to see even as we're talking right now with production

516
00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:31,159
Speaker 1: is on spot I'm not even sure they did one

517
00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:35,160
Speaker 1: for him on spot track, but maybe it's it's definitely

518
00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:39,919
Speaker 1: more reasonable and obviously reasonable is a different discussion when

519
00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:42,600
Speaker 1: it comes to what actually is reasonable and shortstops. But

520
00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:44,520
Speaker 1: it won't cost Willy Adamis money.

521
00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:47,960
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, and he's not as good as Willie Adomas either, No,

522
00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:51,840
Speaker 2: he's not. It's all part of the equation, you know,

523
00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:54,439
Speaker 2: And as we've said, I think we said it at

524
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Speaker 2: the trade deadline when we were doing that preview, and

525
00:24:56,960 --> 00:25:01,120
Speaker 2: I think on the whole, Alex and Topless has deserved

526
00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:04,400
Speaker 2: and has garnered a lot of goodwill with the fan base.

527
00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:07,040
Speaker 2: There's a reason this team has been so good for

528
00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:10,920
Speaker 2: seven years now. But as we have also talked about

529
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:14,719
Speaker 2: quite a bit, a very very important offseason, and frankly,

530
00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:18,359
Speaker 2: he needs to not only make a decision at shortstop,

531
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Speaker 2: but hit on that decision. It's a very important decision.

532
00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:26,160
Speaker 2: It's a very important position on the field. Whereas maybe

533
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:28,879
Speaker 2: in the corner outfield with all the uncertainty, you know,

534
00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:31,600
Speaker 2: you can probably piece that together a little bit easier,

535
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Speaker 2: But I can't do another one sixty two of Orlando Rcia,

536
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Speaker 2: Brad It's just you said it perfectly. He's a very

537
00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:44,320
Speaker 2: qualified backup infielder, utility guy. You know, Ossi Alby's has

538
00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:45,639
Speaker 2: missed significant.

539
00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:46,200
Speaker 1: Time over the years.

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Speaker 2: You know, he's a great backup second baseman should you

541
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Speaker 2: need it. He's a great backup shortstop. I assume he

542
00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:55,760
Speaker 2: could play third base. But yeah, if it gets to

543
00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:59,040
Speaker 2: opening day and the Braves are carrying a two hundred

544
00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:03,040
Speaker 2: and whatever million dollar payroll with a sixty million dollar

545
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:06,520
Speaker 2: bullpen and they're running out of Orlando Arcia at shortstop.

546
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Speaker 2: I think I'm gonna be banging my head on the wall.

547
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Speaker 1: Just a little bit. It would not rage me, especially

548
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:13,960
Speaker 1: when it rage you, But I we would be similar.

549
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:15,800
Speaker 1: I think I would be a little bit more measured

550
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Speaker 1: with it because I can at least see the argument.

551
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:19,920
Speaker 1: If you maybe this is part of my uh my,

552
00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:22,320
Speaker 1: my podcasting gene, I could be like, you know, if

553
00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:25,479
Speaker 1: you said, all right, Brad, tee it up and make

554
00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:28,040
Speaker 1: the argument for Lando Arcia, I could probably do it.

555
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:30,359
Speaker 1: Do I want to? Absolutely not, but I.

556
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Speaker 2: Probably, Yeah, get out of here with your reasonableness and

557
00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:37,840
Speaker 2: level headedness and let's uh, let's go hot takes. No.

558
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Speaker 1: I mean, okay, I'm not trying to sugar mine I

559
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:44,159
Speaker 1: think you. I think your reaction is the one that

560
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:46,320
Speaker 1: fan base will have, which is the in a lot

561
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:49,399
Speaker 1: of ways, makes total sense. Yeah. I hope we're not.

562
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Speaker 1: I hope we're not spending it the other direction later.

563
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Speaker 2: Not. Not every move has to be made with twenty

564
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Speaker 2: thirty three in mind. Sometimes you have to overpay a

565
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:01,359
Speaker 2: little bit in order to get I mean, do you

566
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:04,320
Speaker 2: think the Phillies are thinking about twenty thirty three with

567
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:07,000
Speaker 2: Trey Turner after what he's done for them. Do you

568
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:09,359
Speaker 2: think the Mets, I mean, dear God, do you think

569
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:11,800
Speaker 2: the Mets are thinking about what twenty thirty three is

570
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,760
Speaker 2: going to be like for Francisco Indoor after the season

571
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Speaker 2: he just had. Again, I'm not saying Willia Damas is

572
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:21,600
Speaker 2: Francisco Indoor, but I think the point of sometimes you

573
00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:25,119
Speaker 2: have to overpay to get talented baseball players, not just

574
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Speaker 2: a shortstop but at any place. And you know what,

575
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Speaker 2: if you got to add another year and that's what

576
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:33,399
Speaker 2: sweetens the pot enough, then you do it and you

577
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:35,239
Speaker 2: figure it out seven years from now.

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Speaker 1: All right, we could pivot away from shortstop. It's probably

579
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:42,680
Speaker 1: a good twenty five minutes on the Willia Damas Hassan

580
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:46,199
Speaker 1: Kim thing in October, and trust me, that will come

581
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:48,800
Speaker 1: up again. I can almost assure everyone the next roomor

582
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:51,560
Speaker 1: we get all that stuff quickly before we get out

583
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:55,000
Speaker 1: of here. It's not even really huge news. But Kyle

584
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Speaker 1: McDaniel former I think didn't work with the Braves at

585
00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:02,000
Speaker 1: some point. Anyway. Kylie reported that this year's qualifying offer

586
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:04,960
Speaker 1: in baseball is a shade over twenty one million dollars,

587
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:07,479
Speaker 1: which is partner to the Braves for one reason. By

588
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:09,119
Speaker 1: the way, if you didn't know this, qualifying offers can

589
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:12,160
Speaker 1: be issued the first five days after the World Series,

590
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:14,680
Speaker 1: so they't have to side this yet. But Max Freed

591
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:18,920
Speaker 1: is a very very very logical qualifying offer candidate, meaning

592
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:22,080
Speaker 1: the team has to offer that price twenty million dollars.

593
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:25,879
Speaker 1: It's a one year tender basically, and that way, if

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Speaker 1: Max were to leave, the Braves will get a comp

595
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:33,320
Speaker 1: pick back. On the free agent side, that player is

596
00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 1: allowed to sign that tender whenever they want to. I

597
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:37,240
Speaker 1: think I can speak for you, Scott, and Max wants

598
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:39,360
Speaker 1: to sign the qualifying offer, I would do a dance

599
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:41,240
Speaker 1: in the street. So yeah, he's not going to do that.

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00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 1: Just for the record, he's not going to sign the offer.

601
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:45,920
Speaker 1: But hey, there is no downside. This is my entire

602
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:47,720
Speaker 1: analysis on this one, Scotts, to see if you have

603
00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 1: more feel free. There is no downside whatsoever to offering

604
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,480
Speaker 1: the qualifying offer to Max Freed. That's all I have.

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00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, just let me say this, Brad in real life,

606
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 2: not not as like a base player, but Brad Rowland,

607
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:05,080
Speaker 2: I'm going to offer you a one year, twenty one

608
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 2: million dollar guaranteed deal to continue doing this podcast.

609
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 1: Wow.

610
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:13,000
Speaker 2: And can you imagine being in a point in life

611
00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:15,720
Speaker 2: where it was like an automatic No way.

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00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 1: It's literally a zero person. I shouldn't say zero, it's

613
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 1: a zero point two percent chance that he would sign that.

614
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:24,240
Speaker 1: He would sign that. Yeah, it would have to be

615
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 1: like there's an injury that no one knows about. Like

616
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Speaker 1: I can't I mean literally, because the Braves would offer more.

617
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 1: Even if the Braves have decided in their head and

618
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:34,320
Speaker 1: I'm not saying they have to let Max go, which

619
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:36,240
Speaker 1: might happen, that might have already happened. We don't know.

620
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 1: Even if they already made that decision, if Max came

621
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Speaker 1: back to them and said, all right, give me two

622
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:44,760
Speaker 1: years and fifty million total, they would obviously do that.

623
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Speaker 1: So uh, and that's more than this. So the qualifying

624
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 1: offer is it's it's procedural. But one thing I wouldn't

625
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 1: at least know, I should say this earlier. The Braves

626
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 1: are in the tax, at least they happen in the

627
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:58,280
Speaker 1: last two years, the competitive balanced tax. So they only

628
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 1: get quote unquote a fourth round comppick. You get a

629
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 1: worse compicks you because that's one of the penalties quote

630
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 1: unquote for going into the tax. That's a minimal thing.

631
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 1: But if he leaves, the Braves will and look what

632
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 1: it's spun you if they didn't offer it, because it

633
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:13,480
Speaker 1: would to be I don't know why they wouldn't offer clality. Yeah,

634
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 1: it's just usually like yeah, I mean, it would be

635
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:19,480
Speaker 1: silly not to offer it. At worst, you recoup a

636
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 1: fourth round pick, you add whatever the signing bonus is

637
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:24,680
Speaker 1: for a fourth round or these days to your pool.

638
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 1: Max is not going to take a one year qualifying offer.

639
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:30,200
Speaker 1: He's going to get a lot of money.

640
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 2: And it could be with the Braves, but if it's

641
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 2: going to be with the Braves, it's going to be

642
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:37,560
Speaker 2: for six or seven years and maybe one hundred and

643
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 2: eighty million dollars instead. So we at least wanted to

644
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Speaker 2: mention it. It is something that's going to come up

645
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Speaker 2: in the coming weeks. There is usually a player, maybe

646
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:49,480
Speaker 2: two each winter, who does say yes to the qualifying

647
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:50,960
Speaker 2: offer or it's.

648
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 1: Close, Like there are some guys where it's like a

649
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 1: real decision. This is not one of those, but there

650
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 1: are there are many that are like so, for instance,

651
00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:59,640
Speaker 1: Charlie can't get it because Charlie's already had it. It's

652
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 1: been a while anyway, a player like that where it's like,

653
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 1: is this guy worth twenty million? Is the actual question?

654
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 1: Then it's like, all right, dude, will there won't they

655
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 1: the bracelet will have anybody this year? That's that decision.

656
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:11,320
Speaker 1: It's it's only Max that's eligible, and he's just an

657
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:11,960
Speaker 1: obvious yes.

658
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 2: So, like a fun hypothetical, is aj Mintor actually who

659
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 2: is a free agent? Say that Mintor came off this

660
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 2: past season and he was like the best reliever in

661
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:25,320
Speaker 2: baseball and he was going to hit free agency after

662
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:29,480
Speaker 2: you know, pick some gaudy numbers of choice across the

663
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 2: board for a relief pitcher. You know, Mintor might have

664
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 2: been like, well, twenty million or I can hit free agency.

665
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 2: You know, it's it's a pretty rare occurrence, as we outlined,

666
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 2: but regardless, we wanted to, like we said, talk about it,

667
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 2: bring it up, and at least the Braves will get

668
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 2: something if.

669
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 1: If Max Ley something.

670
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, fourth thrown comp pick is sadly not a whole lot,

671
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:54,000
Speaker 2: but you know that that's kind of the game. You

672
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:57,680
Speaker 2: have to play with good players and free agency. Yeah,

673
00:31:57,720 --> 00:31:59,720
Speaker 2: the agent thing is worth exploring. Maybe obviously it's not

674
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 2: now coming off of the injury and all that. But

675
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:06,120
Speaker 2: if he had been incredible this year, I generally would

676
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 2: be against paying that level of But look, if you

677
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:11,480
Speaker 2: wanted to sign Sam exach argument, if you wanted to

678
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 2: sign a one year, twenty million dollar deal, if he

679
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:15,600
Speaker 2: had had his best possile season, I think Alex would

680
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 2: have been like, Okay, one year. Alex loves a one

681
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 2: year deal.

682
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 1: That's right. See that.

683
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 2: For years we're down the rabbit hole. But then you

684
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 2: decline Aaron Bummer. I mean again, this is a different

685
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 2: universe we're in. But it is October thirteenth. The Braves

686
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 2: have not played a baseball game in ten days. The

687
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 2: Braves are not going to play another baseball game for

688
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 2: six months, and it's fun to think about hypothetically.

689
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 1: I guess that's right. Speaking of that, we got a

690
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:44,720
Speaker 1: few questions about this. We don't have to go crazy

691
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 1: on this, Scott, but people were wondering who we're rooting

692
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 1: for in the playoffs, because we do talk about especially

693
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 1: you and and I know Steve and Sean watch a

694
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 1: lot too. We keep watching. I know a lot of

695
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:57,320
Speaker 1: bracebands don't watch the play rest the playoffs. Most the

696
00:32:57,320 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 1: brads are out I don't blame you. I understand I

697
00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 1: am watching baseball. I like baseball. As we're recording this podcast,

698
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 1: game one of the NLCS is either about to happen

699
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 1: or has already started on Sunday. But I think I

700
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 1: could speak for you. It's probably out the Mets. But

701
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:14,480
Speaker 1: do you is there a team you are rooting for

702
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 1: to win the whole shebang at this point, now that

703
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:19,440
Speaker 1: we know who's going to be playing in the ALCS

704
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 1: and l c s, do you have a rooting interest

705
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:24,960
Speaker 1: or if you don't, who are you rooting against the most?

706
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 2: I was gonna say I'm rooting for one team and

707
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:31,800
Speaker 2: one team only, and I would say here on the

708
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 2: count of three, we're gonna say the team we're rooting for.

709
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:39,800
Speaker 1: I'm running two three Cleveland Guardians. Yeah good, I think

710
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 1: that was pretty And look, the Braves did beat them

711
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,600
Speaker 1: in the World Series. So there's a little bit of

712
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:47,240
Speaker 1: a rivalry with the with the Guardian slash old Indians,

713
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:49,920
Speaker 1: but hey, I think it's very clear to us anyway,

714
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 1: it's Cleveland. Okay. How about this, though, can we agree

715
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:55,720
Speaker 1: that the Mets are number four in the list? I

716
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 1: don't want the Mets to win the world.

717
00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 2: Oh yes, the Mets. Okay, here's my here's my rank.

718
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:01,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, give me the list.

719
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:03,959
Speaker 2: Guardians number one by a lot, like a lot, a lot.

720
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 1: Agree to.

721
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 2: It's interesting. I don't hate the Dodgers. I know there

722
00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 2: are Braves fans who just like despise them, and obviously

723
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 2: there's been a lot of history. I don't hate the Dodgers.

724
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 2: I love Freddy Freeman. I really like sho Hail Tawny.

725
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:22,320
Speaker 2: I think the media coverage is a bit overblown at times,

726
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:25,400
Speaker 2: but show Hey is such a good player, Mookie Bets,

727
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:28,359
Speaker 2: Clayton Kershaw, There's a lot of good dudes on that team.

728
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:32,879
Speaker 2: And then the Yankees. You know, it's been a long

729
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:37,319
Speaker 2: time for New York. If this was like nineteen ninety eight,

730
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:40,200
Speaker 2: forget it. But it's been a long time and the

731
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:43,080
Speaker 2: Braves and Yankees basically have no history in what twenty

732
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:43,959
Speaker 2: five years.

733
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Speaker 1: I think this is actually where you and I the small,

734
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:50,839
Speaker 1: at least relatively small edge gap we have is coming

735
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 1: into play here. I absolutely hate the Yankees because probably

736
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:59,800
Speaker 1: my most formative memories of Braves baseball are losing to

737
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:02,719
Speaker 1: the Like I was in that range, you know that

738
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 1: range where you're ten eleven, twelve, thirteen, and nothing matters

739
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 1: more in the world than your sports teams. If you

740
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:11,239
Speaker 1: are a big sports fan, Yes I was. I was

741
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 1: ten when Larraitz hit the homer in ninety six, Like,

742
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 1: that's exactly in the square. I still until the Falcons

743
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 1: did what we can't talk about on the podcast because

744
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:22,239
Speaker 1: I'm not ready to talk about It's been several years.

745
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 1: Can't talk about it until then. My worst sports memory

746
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 1: was the ninety six World Series. So I hate the Yankees,

747
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:32,840
Speaker 1: and I think people of a certain age that are

748
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:36,800
Speaker 1: Bradis fans hate the Yankees. So I still like the

749
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:40,239
Speaker 1: Mets more because it's just fresher, It's just always there.

750
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 1: I still hate the Mets more, to be fair, and

751
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:45,319
Speaker 1: I think my personal hate rankings in Baseball nobody cares

752
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 1: but Mets Phillies like goes back and forth, but they're

753
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:52,360
Speaker 1: definitely one and two in some order. I think I

754
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 1: hate the Yankees more than I hate the Marlins and

755
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:56,239
Speaker 1: the Nationals, even though they're in the division. Like I

756
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:58,359
Speaker 1: think the Yankees are number three on my hate list. Yeah,

757
00:35:58,520 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 1: so I will have been hard to hate them all.

758
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 2: That's such a well.

759
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:02,960
Speaker 1: The Rods have been good at certain times, and that's

760
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 1: we're good at certain times. I mean, it's but you're right.

761
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 1: I think it's definitely Mets Phillies in some order. But

762
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:10,360
Speaker 1: we have the same list to you and me. But

763
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:12,239
Speaker 1: it was a lot easier for me, Like I think

764
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:14,319
Speaker 1: there's a bigger gap. Like I don't hate the Dodgers either,

765
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:17,480
Speaker 1: and that'll be controversial. Maybe I was full of scorture.

766
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 1: I was born in Los Angeles. I don't really care

767
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:20,279
Speaker 1: about it. I was born there, I lived there for

768
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:22,360
Speaker 1: two years. I have no attachment to the Dodgers. But

769
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 1: it's definitely Guardians number one by a lot, Dodters in

770
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 1: their own tier. Though for me, I think I hate

771
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 1: the Yankees. So it's it's very This is the easiest

772
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 1: exercise I'll ever do. Basically, we didn't didn't we didn't

773
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,319
Speaker 1: prep this. I just wrote, hey, be ready for your world.

774
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:42,200
Speaker 1: Series were interest Guardians, big gap Dodgers, big gap Yankees,

775
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 1: big gap Mets. For me, it was so easy.

776
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 2: And it's funny. You brought up, you know, when you're

777
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:48,920
Speaker 2: ten to thirteen years old, and sports are like your

778
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:51,840
Speaker 2: whole life, you know. For me, my Braves memories are

779
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 2: more like the early thousands, so like two thousand, two

780
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:57,239
Speaker 2: thousand and one that you know, I it's hard to

781
00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 2: remember what you remember as a kid for like what

782
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:01,920
Speaker 2: you from from highlights and stuff.

783
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 1: You know.

784
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:06,240
Speaker 2: For me to answer the question obviously rooting for Cleveland,

785
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:09,239
Speaker 2: that would be I mean, talk about David and Goliath.

786
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 2: If Cleveland they have the.

787
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 1: Longest rout too. The people have kind of forgotten this

788
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 1: because you know, they lost, they lost the Cubs and

789
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:17,439
Speaker 1: that Cleve. I believe they have the longest active drought

790
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 1: in baseball of like the long standing franchises without winning

791
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 1: the World Series, so like that's another little thing.

792
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:25,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Steven Vote has done a phenomenal job as

793
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:30,319
Speaker 2: their manager, you know. So yes, Cleveland and then man

794
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:34,759
Speaker 2: Yankees Dodgers. I will not be rooting for either, I

795
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:36,400
Speaker 2: mean and their favorite to play each other. So this

796
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 2: is my you're gonna you're gonna have to decide and

797
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 2: the next maybe week and a half, if before they

798
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:43,280
Speaker 2: play the kitching noise you hear, are the TV execs

799
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:45,320
Speaker 2: thinking about a Yankees Dodgers series?

800
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 1: Go ahead? No, I was gonna say, uh, this is interesting.

801
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:52,279
Speaker 1: I can't remember which which former player it was, but

802
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 1: there was this thread today and we'll sign off, I

803
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 1: promise everybody. Actually, how like you would think that small

804
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 1: market teams would root for the Guardians because they are

805
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:07,919
Speaker 1: a small market team, but in a very financi baseball way,

806
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 1: it actually incentivizes, like Pittsburgh and Kansas City, et cetera.

807
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:15,760
Speaker 1: They actually kind of want it to be Yankees Dodgers

808
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:19,840
Speaker 1: because everyone splits the pool of national TV money separately

809
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 1: like the same, like equally. So it's actually better for

810
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 1: the small market teams if it's Yankees Dodgers because that

811
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 1: will make them more money. How about interesting? Yeah huh,

812
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 1: I mean I never would have thought about that, but

813
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 1: I was like, actually, that makes logical sense to me.

814
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:35,360
Speaker 1: But you would think, because like I think it's a

815
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:37,560
Speaker 1: night and Gale. Somebody, somebody, one of the national people

816
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 1: was like, everyone's rooting for the Guardians, and it's like,

817
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:44,239
Speaker 1: actually maybe the I bet you're the Pirates owner that

818
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 1: everyone hates. It's probably like go Yankees, go Dodgers.

819
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:50,759
Speaker 2: Funny, Yeah, anything for a dollar, right, yeah, that that

820
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:55,320
Speaker 2: fan base deserves better for the Pirates. Yeah, so go Cleveland.

821
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:59,400
Speaker 2: I really if the Yankees or the Dodgers win the

822
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 2: World Series, I will not be like annoyed or frustrated.

823
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:04,960
Speaker 2: If the Mets win the World Series, that would be

824
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 2: pretty terrible, especially after.

825
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:11,920
Speaker 1: This season when the Mets like and this is all

826
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:15,480
Speaker 1: the way the rabbit hole entirely, but the Mets to

827
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:17,520
Speaker 1: me this year are the embodiment of a team that

828
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:22,400
Speaker 1: shouldn't be in the playoffs, Like I hate the expanded playoffs.

829
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:23,960
Speaker 1: If you're a new listener, this is a bit that

830
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:26,239
Speaker 1: I go to, but I genuinely believe this. I hate

831
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:28,759
Speaker 1: the expanded playoffs. I feel like it waters down the

832
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:30,799
Speaker 1: products and the Mets. And by the way, the Braves

833
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 1: would have fit this bill this year as well. The

834
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:33,600
Speaker 1: Braves did not deserve to be in the playoffs in

835
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 1: my opinion this year. They made it by the end,

836
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:38,919
Speaker 1: but they were not a team quality that I would

837
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:40,919
Speaker 1: like to see in the playoffs. The Mets weren't either.

838
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 1: The Mets shouldn't be in the playoffs, but and they

839
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 1: wouldn't have been until the expansion a couple of years ago.

840
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 1: So if they win the World Series, it's another black

841
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 1: mark against Baseball expanding the playoffs. Just like last year

842
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:52,279
Speaker 1: the dim your Diamondbacks making the World Series, they didn't

843
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 1: win it, but like eighty four wins whatever. It was, like,

844
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 1: what are we doing here? Yeah, yes, yeah, I know.

845
00:39:57,280 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 2: This is a anti expanded playoffs podcast has been.

846
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:03,719
Speaker 1: I've lost the battle though. It's never it's never changing.

847
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:05,920
Speaker 1: I know it's never changing. I just yeah, one day

848
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:08,000
Speaker 1: maybe I'll accept it, but not not today. Yeah.

849
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:09,920
Speaker 2: Once the horse is out of the barn and the

850
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 2: TV money starts rolling in, it will never go back in.

851
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:17,320
Speaker 2: But alas, let's go Cleveland. That would be a great story.

852
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:19,439
Speaker 2: I think at most, if we did, like a poll,

853
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:21,920
Speaker 2: maybe we'll like, can you pull people in like YouTube comments,

854
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 2: Maybe we'll do a poll or something like that.

855
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 1: He actually, yeah, that's a gread. If you've made it

856
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 1: at the end of the podcast, if you're watching on YouTube,

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Speaker 1: or if you're just an audio subscriber, by the way,

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Speaker 1: should be subscribing on YouTube as well. The best thing

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Speaker 1: you can possibly do is to subscribe on YouTube and

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Speaker 1: your audio platform. But yeah, go ahead, if you made

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Speaker 1: it this far, comment on YouTube and set who you're

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Speaker 1: rooting for and who you rooting or you're rooting against.

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Speaker 1: Give us your order like the one we just gave you.

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Speaker 1: Give us your order. It's a pretty easy exercise. I

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Speaker 1: actually wonder what the split will be. I have I

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Speaker 1: have a feeling that Cardgans will be one, and that's

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Speaker 1: will before but I don't know how the middle two

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Speaker 1: are going to go. People my age maybe might be

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Speaker 1: a more anti Yankees, but I don't know. I'm generally

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Speaker 1: pun sure.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, it makes for a good offseason talk.

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Speaker 2: You know. I hope from a as a baseball fan,

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Speaker 2: obviously I want the Braves to win every single night,

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Speaker 2: but as a fan of the game on the whole,

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Speaker 2: I hope the Alcs and the NLCS are good baseball

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Speaker 2: and a good World Series. I mean, last year's World

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Speaker 2: Series was kind of a dud. Texas just smoked Arizona.

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Speaker 2: I think all but one of the games was competitive

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Speaker 2: and or was not competitive. I should say, so, yeah,

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Speaker 2: hopefully good baseball over the next two weeks, and then

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Speaker 2: we can shift our focus to an off season where

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Speaker 2: the Braves have quite a bit of questions and it

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Speaker 2: should be an interesting off season. I think sometimes you

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Speaker 2: go in and like ninety five percent of the roster

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Speaker 2: is set and there's presumably not much money, and it's like, okay,

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Speaker 2: they're probably not going to do a ton, But this

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Speaker 2: does feel like a busy and intriguing off season ahead,

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Speaker 2: and that obviously makes things fun as a fan.

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Speaker 1: I think that this entire stretch is so interesting because

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Speaker 1: almost nothing happens until the World Series. So it's like

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Speaker 1: you kind of have to if you're runnerning baseball. They

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Speaker 1: could do some stuff, but in the meantime, it's just, hey,

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Speaker 1: watch the games. As soon as the World Series is over,

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Speaker 1: the floodgates open and baseball transactions and hot stove and

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Speaker 1: all those things. But until then we'll be watching and

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Speaker 1: rooting against three teams and rooting for one team. Let's

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Speaker 1: just get how about this, Let's just get Guardians Dodgers

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Speaker 1: in the World Series, and that way it wouldn't be

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Speaker 1: so bad because that would be one of the roof

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Speaker 1: these first two series. Go Guardians, Go Dodgers, and then

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Speaker 1: go Guardians at the end. All right, Scott, that's enough

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Speaker 1: on a podcast. We're playing to do for twenty five minutes.

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Speaker 1: That's now been forty two minutes. As always, have anything

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Speaker 1: you like to share on the way out Sunday evening.

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Speaker 2: Nothing to share. I hope everybody out there is doing well.

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Speaker 2: Happy start to your week. Maybe Sunday night if you

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Speaker 2: tune in right away, which we appreciate you all for.

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Speaker 2: But as always, we have plenty of content coming. I

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Speaker 2: have shows this upcoming week. A big thank you to

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Speaker 2: everybody who has checked this out on the YouTube channel,

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Speaker 2: which has really grown over the last couple of weeks.

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Speaker 2: And as always, the audio listeners, the ogs who came

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Speaker 2: over from Talking Chop Days, the Battery Power Days, you

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Speaker 2: all are my hero. So hope everybody out there is

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Speaker 2: doing well and we'll be back soon with another show.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, thank you for being here everybody. We do appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Please follow Hammer Territory on social media as well. We

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Speaker 1: are on Facebook, we are on Twitter, we are on Instagram, etc.

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Speaker 1: Follow Scott on Twitter at Scott Coming fifty five, follow

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Speaker 1: me there at bt Roland and please please please subscribe

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Speaker 1: on YouTube, comment your world series rooting interests in order

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Speaker 1: actually listen to the show all the way through. Yes,

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Speaker 1: stay tuned, we'll have more this week. We'll see you all.

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Speaker 1: Thanks time,