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Speaker 1: I am all in again.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I am all in again with Scott Patterson and

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Speaker 2: iHeartRadio Podcast.

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Speaker 3: Hey everybody, Scott Patterson, I am all in Podcast one

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Speaker 3: eleven productions, iHeart Radio, iHeart Media. I Heart Podcast Episode recap,

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Speaker 3: Season one, Episode eleven.

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Speaker 1: Paris is Burning and boy is she?

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Speaker 3: And we have a very special guest, mister Max Medina himself,

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Speaker 3: the one and only Scott Cohen is here to discuss

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Speaker 3: this episode with me.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's so funny. Man. You watched it and you're like,

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Speaker 4: holy got you sucked in that? What?

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Speaker 1: What are you talking about? Your work is great? What

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Speaker 1: are you talking about?

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Speaker 4: That's how you feel. No, it's funny though, It's like,

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Speaker 4: you know, I've really have I barely watched the show

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Speaker 4: when it was on, and you know, because you didn't

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Speaker 4: have like you know, Netflix back then or whatever, and

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Speaker 4: you just and you moved on with shit, right, It's like,

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Speaker 4: you know, so it kind of passed me by, but

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Speaker 4: then when you look back on it, you're kind of surprised, like, oh,

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Speaker 4: I kind of remember that scene. I remember that's I

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Speaker 4: remember doing that and it's funny and I mean, I

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Speaker 4: could tell you this while we're doing it, but but

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Speaker 4: it was, it was, and I have to say seeing

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Speaker 4: it now, so this is twenty five years on. Man,

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Speaker 4: it's crazy and it's funny. It's just it's such a

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Speaker 4: good show and you're just like, oh my god, it's

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Speaker 4: like I can't believe, like Belly laughs, like.

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Speaker 1: Oh my, it's really funny.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, really funny.

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Speaker 1: That's my takeaway too, is.

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Speaker 3: How damn funny it is, I don't know, and how smart,

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Speaker 3: smartly funny.

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Speaker 4: It is so smart, so smart, she's so good. You know.

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Speaker 3: What really struck me about this is the narcissism of

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Speaker 3: Emily Gilmour how so and how she uses her daughter,

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Speaker 3: and how her daughter didn't measure up to their expectations,

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Speaker 3: and it is such a disappointment to Emily all the time.

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Speaker 3: Instead of like you know, adjusting her her worldview and

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Speaker 3: her expectations and accepting reality, she's like Emily just lives

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Speaker 3: in this world where she's just so rejecting her daughter

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Speaker 4: Yeah. But what I find really interesting about that is

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Speaker 4: that Lurlai is capable of not doing that to Rory,

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Speaker 4: which I think is the hardest. I think a parent

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Speaker 4: you know, to kind of evade that in a certain sense, right,

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Speaker 4: not in all senses, because her belliousness is really kind

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Speaker 4: the same vein that that she's not. She doesn't do

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Speaker 4: the same thing that that uh, that Emily does to

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Speaker 4: Laurel I, that Lorelai would do to Rory.

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Speaker 1: But she did do it to Rory. She slept, she

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Speaker 1: got in a relationship with.

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Speaker 4: You, I know, But that's different than what Emily is.

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Speaker 4: Like Emily's just so she's so controlling and so things

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Speaker 4: have to be this way. In this way. Laurel I

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Speaker 4: just makes bad choices, right, but you know, I mean

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Speaker 4: are they bad choices? I mean they're just human, like

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Speaker 4: she just you know, she falls in love or she

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Speaker 3: I you know, I saw this episode. This is the

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Speaker 3: second time I've seen it, and now I'm beginning to

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Speaker 3: you know, the genius of the Palladinos uh continues to

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Speaker 3: unfold because episodes like this are so necessary and they

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Speaker 3: aren't as you know, chalk full of humor, as you know,

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Speaker 3: your your average Gilmore up right, Although it had really

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Speaker 3: funny belly laps and funny moments in here. For sure,

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Speaker 3: this was a deeply dramatic episode, and more so than

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Speaker 3: Consistently throughout so and I thought, these are the wells

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Speaker 3: that the Palladinos are digging deeper and deeper and deeper.

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Speaker 3: And once in a while they do this because these

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Speaker 3: the dramatic storytelling, in the jokes. There's there's a million

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Speaker 3: season four, in season five, and season six. So I

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Speaker 3: I try to analyze it and overanalyze it and judge it, say, man,

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Speaker 3: these two be so boneheaded as to, you know, think

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Speaker 3: They're too in love, they're too infatuated. That's a very

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Speaker 3: great situations in the future. And I also thought that

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Speaker 3: maybe the critics didn't know what the show was in

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Speaker 1: Is it a comic?

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Speaker 4: What is it?

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Speaker 3: Because some are heavily dramatic, some are a lot of them,

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Speaker 3: with all the Joki jokes. Maybe that was the confusion,

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Speaker 4: Was it was it reviewed poorly?

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Speaker 1: No, absolutely not.

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Speaker 4: And yes, it didn't win any yes, yes, right, that's

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Speaker 3: But but isn't it interesting that And I think the

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Speaker 3: Palladinos just sort of they just wrote without restrictions, They

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Speaker 3: You know, within a within a structure obviously, but they

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Speaker 3: really brilliant instinctual writing. It's like they just went where

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this is this is where they wanted to go.

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Speaker 3: And I think this dynamic this episode is as deep

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Speaker 3: it's just not to be, and and how she sabotages

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they raised that way.

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Speaker 4: Right yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean I I thought

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Speaker 4: I think is what attracts people now as fans. I

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Speaker 3: Right, yeah, right, exactly. But boy, Emily, wow, what so good?

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Speaker 1: What a character?

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Speaker 4: Oh my god, what a character?

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Speaker 1: What a destructive?

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Speaker 1: Entertaining? I mean, aren't these people just so entertaining?

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Speaker 4: I found Alexis and this is that, this was what

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Speaker 3: You know, she did bring there was an effortlessness that

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Speaker 3: And effortless and smooth right as Yeah. As Hamlet instructs

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Speaker 4: Really it's funny because you know, I've worked with people

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Speaker 3: I worked with a guy like that on a film

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Speaker 3: he just kept asking so many questions that director's driving

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Speaker 1: We want to get out of here.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: He was adding hours on every day and then we

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Speaker 3: go to the premiere and he's great.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he's brilliant.

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Speaker 3: He's like ultraspecific and right right, you know, you can

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Speaker 4: And right right right.

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Speaker 1: That was real learning.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I think I think Alexis had that naturally.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I actually think this show really kind of

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Speaker 4: I completely agree.

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Speaker 3: Because you're you're a kind of a beloved character. People

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Speaker 4: Well you there's Team Max, and there's you know, there's

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Speaker 4: She was supposed to read it. She never read it.

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Speaker 4: thinking to myself, I read that book. It's like, you know,

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00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:19,840
Speaker 4: and so that was it was really but this is

440
00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:22,640
Speaker 4: what people that's the kind of reaction to get. It's

441
00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:29,040
Speaker 4: a very intense love of the show and love of

442
00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:31,480
Speaker 4: of every character that's in it. There's not a single

443
00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:38,840
Speaker 4: character that doesn't get some attention. You know. It's it's, it's, it's,

444
00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:41,760
Speaker 4: it's and and being recognized. I'm sure you get recognized

445
00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:44,159
Speaker 4: all the time. It's like I mean, and you just

446
00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:47,120
Speaker 4: feel like wow, I mean, in the weirdest places, are

447
00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:51,959
Speaker 4: you I'm just sorry, but are you Max Medina, I'm like, yeah,

448
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:55,919
Speaker 4: I mean, and it happens all the time, you know,

449
00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,520
Speaker 4: it's and I mean, thank god for Netflix. It's like,

450
00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:00,639
Speaker 4: uh it, keep your relevant.

451
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:06,760
Speaker 3: Let's talk a little bit about Paris, because she was

452
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:10,640
Speaker 3: really she was featured prominently in this episode. We get

453
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:12,960
Speaker 3: to know a little bit about her backstory, parents going

454
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:18,639
Speaker 3: through ugly, nasty divorce and it's affecting her already.

455
00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:23,040
Speaker 1: A dark, dark.

456
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:31,760
Speaker 3: Mood, and she's taking it out on our kid Rory here.

457
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:34,920
Speaker 1: And it's not particularly nice.

458
00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:39,639
Speaker 4: That the scene, the last scene with her where where

459
00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:42,040
Speaker 4: Rory's like, you know, why are you doing this? It's

460
00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:45,320
Speaker 4: like you know, you know and all that. I actually

461
00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:47,680
Speaker 4: thought that was one of the most brilliant scenes I've

462
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:53,119
Speaker 4: ever that that and it almost on for an entire episode,

463
00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:55,919
Speaker 4: Like I was so interested in both of their characters

464
00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:58,639
Speaker 4: and what they're going to say to each other, how

465
00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:00,600
Speaker 4: they weren't going to give up, you know what they

466
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:03,320
Speaker 4: you know, but I'm here if you need me. Well

467
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:05,639
Speaker 4: I'm okay, but I'm not going to need you, you know,

468
00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 4: but I'm here if you need me, but well, you know,

469
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:10,719
Speaker 4: but I'm not I'm not going to need you, and

470
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:17,639
Speaker 4: it was just it was absolutely brilliant and uh, Lisa, Liza,

471
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:23,200
Speaker 4: Liza was. I knew then she was going to be great.

472
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:28,119
Speaker 4: I totally thought that she was. She was solid, she

473
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:32,160
Speaker 4: was you know, she she paid attention, she was strong,

474
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 4: she was you know, there's something interesting going on with her.

475
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:40,119
Speaker 4: And what a great character. What a great great villain

476
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 4: that turns into not a villain that you know, you

477
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:44,919
Speaker 4: you don't want to root for, but then you have

478
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:50,600
Speaker 4: to root for, you know, uh mean girls turned nice

479
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 4: girl turned mean girl. I mean really incredibly uh laid

480
00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:01,960
Speaker 4: out I think for us. So yeah, great writing, such

481
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 4: great writing, and such a great uh such a great

482
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:11,439
Speaker 4: opposite for Rory. I mean, you know, great obstacle for

483
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:14,040
Speaker 4: for for a character like Rory to deal with and

484
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:17,560
Speaker 4: have to you know, I mean, how difficult is it

485
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 4: to stand up to somebody like that's actually what that

486
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:24,879
Speaker 4: that scene when she stands up to her Paris and

487
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 4: and says, you know, why are you doing this? I

488
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:30,080
Speaker 4: feel like, wow, that's like you don't you don't know

489
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 4: what the result of that's going to be. That could

490
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:35,359
Speaker 4: be you know, you know what you know to you

491
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 4: that could be you know, walk away that could be

492
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:39,600
Speaker 4: you know, don't don't ever talk to me again. That

493
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 4: could be anything, right, but it's not, and she takes

494
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:45,840
Speaker 4: the risk. I thought that was incredible and incredible writing.

495
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 3: And even maybe even more incredible is yeah, because you

496
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 3: want to sew, loathe and despise Paris, but you can't anymore.

497
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:59,479
Speaker 4: You can't. No, not no, totally right. Scene with the

498
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:01,640
Speaker 4: mother is she's really what No, the scene with the

499
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:03,720
Speaker 4: mothers did it? I mean the scene with the I

500
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 4: don't know who that was, but she was amazing. Actually,

501
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 4: she was so cutthroat, like just disgusting human being. I mean,

502
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 4: you know, you don't want to grow up with a

503
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:21,400
Speaker 4: mother like that. And I don't know if you saw

504
00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 4: what was the film last year with Paul Giamatti. He

505
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:29,840
Speaker 4: was nominated for an Oscar.

506
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:30,480
Speaker 3: Oh.

507
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't say it, but I know what you're

508
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 1: talking about.

509
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, similar like that, because all the parents are like

510
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:39,200
Speaker 4: they all walk away from their kids. They're like nobody

511
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 4: really pays attention. Yeah. I thought that was so good.

512
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:49,440
Speaker 4: And she's she's really good. She's really really good. That's

513
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 4: the other thing I thought that was so amazing about

514
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 4: the show was that they're and I mean not that

515
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:57,960
Speaker 4: I watch a lot of these shows with they're young

516
00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:00,560
Speaker 4: people and older people, which you don't have actually a

517
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 4: lot of shows that you have where you see an

518
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 4: older generation and a younger generation, like you see every

519
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:08,560
Speaker 4: generation in this in this show, which I think is

520
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:11,720
Speaker 4: that's what's so beautiful about it, or one of the

521
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:13,600
Speaker 4: things that's so beautiful about is that they didn't like

522
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:16,719
Speaker 4: you know, which was very similar to Mazel too. Mazel

523
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:19,360
Speaker 4: had that too, so there wasn't there wasn't you know,

524
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:23,760
Speaker 4: everybody has, everybody's flawed, everybody has problems. Everybody has, like

525
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:26,520
Speaker 4: you know, things that that they need to deal with.

526
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 4: But this, I think, you know, one of the beautiful

527
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:32,480
Speaker 4: things about it is just that that we were able

528
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 4: to see these, you know, an entire generation that we

529
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:39,600
Speaker 4: really know nothing about and having to deal with problems

530
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 4: that they deal with. So it's it's almost like you

531
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:45,080
Speaker 4: have you have Gossip Girl and you have you know,

532
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:49,480
Speaker 4: it's everything combined in that. So that's it's so good.

533
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:52,480
Speaker 3: And also one of the I agree that was a

534
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 3: great scene. That was one of the great scenes. And

535
00:30:54,600 --> 00:31:00,360
Speaker 3: then and then it's followed by another great scene where

536
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 3: Laurel I and Rory end up in the stairwell. Rory's

537
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 3: trying to get away from her and they have that

538
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 3: and they have it out over you know, what are

539
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:13,440
Speaker 3: you doing.

540
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:13,960
Speaker 1: To my life?

541
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 3: Mom? My reputation is destroyed here now you're kissing Max Medina,

542
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 3: You're kissing my teacher at parents' day? What are you

543
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:27,960
Speaker 3: thinking about? What are you doing to me?

544
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:28,400
Speaker 4: You know?

545
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 3: And it's like, wake the f upe, Why why am

546
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 3: I here at this place?

547
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 1: This this this revered.

548
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 3: School and you're coming in and what are you doing?

549
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 4: Mom?

550
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 3: And I just thought that that scene was handled so

551
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 3: deathly and so there was so much desperation and so

552
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:51,720
Speaker 3: much angst and so much I mean, it was so

553
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 3: fraught with like this relationship could not I don't know

554
00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 3: about end at any moment, but this is this is

555
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 3: really testing their bond here.

556
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 4: I mean it's I completely agree, Yeah, totally, I completely agree.

557
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:14,600
Speaker 4: I I you know, it's again, I think the ability

558
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 4: for the character of Rory to stand up to whoever

559
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 4: she needs to be standing up to was quite remarkable

560
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 4: that they that they chose to play her out like that.

561
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:28,960
Speaker 4: This question comes up a lot actually with fans and

562
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 4: things like that, like the idea of what what Max

563
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:40,520
Speaker 4: and Lorli did together to jeopardize her Rory's relationships in school,

564
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 4: with school, all that kind of stuff, and also jeopardizing

565
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 4: their own status in in in in the town that

566
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:51,480
Speaker 4: they're living in at Chilton, all that kind of stuff that,

567
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:57,760
Speaker 4: you know, I question whether or not that that feeling

568
00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 4: would be what would happen if Rory didn't stand up

569
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 4: to her mother and say, what do you you know?

570
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 4: This is so wrong? Like I'm not sure, Like I

571
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 4: think that people would have seen it as a romantic tryst,

572
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 4: and people would have seen it as kind of like

573
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 4: a you know, ooh, like oh, I can't believe they're

574
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 4: doing that, as opposed to having an opinion about it,

575
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 4: which I think is actually brilliant writing. I think it's

576
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 4: like to be able to you're asking people to both

577
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 4: understand that characters are flawed, but also to take to

578
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 4: have judgment about them because they do something that hurts people,

579
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 4: and so that those two things have to play with

580
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 4: each other as opposed to one or the other, which

581
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:42,640
Speaker 4: I think is quite that that also, I think is brilliant,

582
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:45,959
Speaker 4: But I do question whether or not, like you know,

583
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 4: people would think that way if Rory wasn't so affected

584
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 4: by it, like I wonder if, like you know, it's

585
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 4: just a question. It's not saying that it is or

586
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 4: it isn't, but.

587
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:02,000
Speaker 3: As a palatinos messing it up, for setting up perfect

588
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 3: situations or flawed situations, messing them up even further and

589
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:09,239
Speaker 3: then fixing it or watching people trying to clean up

590
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:21,839
Speaker 3: the mess, right right, all the forgiveness and stuff. And

591
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 3: then we have Suki and Jackson. They're gonna with a

592
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:30,400
Speaker 3: really charming scene, very charming scene that you know, that

593
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:34,279
Speaker 3: scene right, that scene gives you hope. It's like if

594
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:37,840
Speaker 3: you if you have any kind of feelings about the

595
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 3: episode of these characters and how you know, maybe morally

596
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 3: or ethically compromise they are, you know, you get this

597
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:51,720
Speaker 3: this purity with with Suki and Jackson. It's like, oh,

598
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 3: we're gonna end it with this. They're gonna give us this.

599
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 3: So now we kind of feel like, you know, we

600
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 3: showered a little bit. It was around.

601
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 4: Like yeah, totally that I actually I felt the same way.

602
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 4: Actually I felt like I felt like I I felt

603
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:28,919
Speaker 4: like I deserved the laugh. Like I've been through so much.

604
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 4: It's like, you know, I can I need to I

605
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 4: need to end with some kind of like, you know.

606
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 1: You give us some fresh air.

607
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, and it's not expected, right, and there's there's

608
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 3: Melissa on your screen smiling and being great, and you're like, ah,

609
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:48,759
Speaker 3: exactly what I needed. You know, I've been through a

610
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:50,719
Speaker 3: really rough day. I need a I need a drink.

611
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:52,239
Speaker 1: There it was.

612
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:55,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, I wasn't quite sure what he was trying to sell, Like,

613
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 4: I wasn't like what he was trying to get her

614
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:01,960
Speaker 4: to make. I was like, what what is that? Ve Like,

615
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 4: what is he talking about?

616
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 1: Like some hybrid thing?

617
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:06,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was confusing to me.

618
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:09,279
Speaker 1: It was like a what was it a like an

619
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 1: egg plant or something, an egg plant with a something else.

620
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:15,759
Speaker 4: I don't know, all right, It's like it looked like

621
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:16,839
Speaker 4: a flower or something like that.

622
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:20,160
Speaker 3: It was weird, right, Oh the very last thing, right, Yeah.

623
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 4: Like a pumpkin or somebody. Yeah, I don't know.

624
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 1: It was waving it at her.

625
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:23,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know.

626
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:25,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I don't know what it was either.

627
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, what what she always gets? That's what she always orders,

628
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 4: so in the last bit, so I wasn't I wasn't

629
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:35,360
Speaker 4: sure what that was either. So it was, uh, yeah.

630
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:36,360
Speaker 1: I don't think it was that important.

631
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:41,959
Speaker 4: The fans would know, they would know exactly, they.

632
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 3: Would definitely know, and they will chime in, Yeah, well,

633
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:55,360
Speaker 3: I just think you know an important episode, and uh,

634
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:57,839
Speaker 3: you know it's the first season, right, it's episode what.

635
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 4: Eleven is the first season? Second season?

636
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:01,760
Speaker 1: It was first season.

637
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:06,719
Speaker 3: So now we're we're halfway, we're almost now we did

638
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 3: twenty four the first year, so we're almost halfway through

639
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:15,400
Speaker 3: the first season. And by this time, you know, the

640
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 3: fans are hooked, right, they love it, They're so curious

641
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:22,799
Speaker 3: about what's going to happen, and then they get this

642
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 3: this very powerful episode. I mean just really you know,

643
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:34,279
Speaker 3: everybody punching above their weight throughout the entire thing, and

644
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 3: it really really solidifies Max as you know, a serious

645
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 3: contender for for loralized affections.

646
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:48,400
Speaker 4: How did you feel like kind of were you aware

647
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 4: of how Luke was going to kind of play out?

648
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 4: And oh no, And well, how did you feel like, uh,

649
00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 4: you know, being in an episode where it's like you're

650
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 4: not quite certain like what your you know, were you

651
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:05,920
Speaker 4: clear on what your your your purpose was and I

652
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 4: mean or did you feel like that kind of came

653
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 4: later or did you like what what was discussed with

654
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:11,480
Speaker 4: you I'm curious.

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Speaker 1: Nothing no, nothing discussed.

656
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 3: It's like, come to work, hope your parking space is

657
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:19,280
Speaker 3: still there.

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00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 1: You just keep hoping for the best guy. You know,

659
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 1: really you still have a job now.

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00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 4: You know.

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00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 3: We always felt fairly secure because you know, the diner

662
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:39,319
Speaker 3: is pretty much a central hub. You know, it established

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00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:44,080
Speaker 3: itself as as one of the two central hubs of of.

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Speaker 1: That show, right.

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Speaker 3: You know, we kind of felt that way with a

666
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:48,840
Speaker 3: pilot too, because I was just a guest star in

667
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:52,279
Speaker 3: the pilot. I wasn't a series regular yet, and but

668
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 3: we were hopeful because the pilot episodes began with the

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00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:59,319
Speaker 3: diner and ended with the diners with oh, well this

670
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 3: is going to be a location. This will be an

671
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:07,440
Speaker 3: established regular every episode location. So maybe you got a

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Speaker 3: shot here, you know, this kind of thing. But I

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00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:15,319
Speaker 3: mean the way that your storyline was going, Yeah, it

674
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 3: made me a little nervous, I thought, because you guys

675
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:24,759
Speaker 3: were so good together, and you know, I was like, boy,

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Speaker 3: I don't know what's going to happen. I may you know,

677
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 3: maybe maybe you take over the diner somehow, you know,

678
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 3: put some books in there. Now it's called you know,

679
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 3: Max's Place or something or Max's spoon.

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00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:45,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was never you know, becoming a regular was

681
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 4: never ever, ever, ever, ever ever discussed. I mean, that

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00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 4: was never never a conversation. There was there, there was conversations.

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Speaker 4: I remember. I think I was doing a pilot and

684
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 4: then I was on the Warner Brothers lot and I

685
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 4: think it was season five or season not even season seven,

686
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:11,719
Speaker 4: because they were out right they were gone, so it

687
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Speaker 4: must have been season five where Dan was like, we're

688
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:16,080
Speaker 4: bringing you back, We're going to bring you back, and

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00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:18,320
Speaker 4: I was like, okay, great, and then that never happened.

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Speaker 4: But besides that, it was never never a conversation.

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Speaker 3: Did you do my mice maisl.

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Speaker 4: I did one episode?

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00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 1: Okay?

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Speaker 3: Okay, did you do the new one? Did you do

695
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:33,839
Speaker 3: any of the new one? Because they're doing a new

696
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:34,800
Speaker 3: one about ballet?

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00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 4: Yeah?

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00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:38,320
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, it didn't do any Okay, all right, Well, look, Scott,

699
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Speaker 3: that brings us to the end of our our little breakdown.

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Speaker 3: Great catching up with you anything you're doing now you

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Speaker 3: want to talk about.

702
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Speaker 4: I have a movie coming out called Mooch in March.

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00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:55,520
Speaker 3: Okay, mooch in March, mooch in March, and uh, who's

704
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:56,920
Speaker 3: in it besides yourself?

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00:40:57,239 --> 00:41:02,560
Speaker 4: Uh? Louis can't sell me. You might know from uh

706
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:07,239
Speaker 4: what was the Scorsese the big movie last year about

707
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 4: the os Age.

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00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:10,759
Speaker 1: Oh sure, yeah, he was in that.

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Speaker 4: He's in a lot of like Scorsesees stuff. Uh, a

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00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 4: couple of other people that you would know, But off

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00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:21,959
Speaker 4: the top of my head, I'm actually forgetting at the moment.

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Speaker 3: Okay, all right, So Mooch in March with Scott Cohen.

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00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:27,440
Speaker 3: What kind of a character do you play?

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00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 4: I played like a mob boss.

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Speaker 1: Oh man, that's really.

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Speaker 4: Fun, really fun. That's really really really fun.

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Speaker 1: That's great. All right, I'm gonna check it out.

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Speaker 3: Everybody check it out, Scott Colin Mooch and March.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for coming by the great Max Medina.

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Speaker 4: Yeah there he is.

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Speaker 1: Take care, Scott. Nice talking to you again.

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Speaker 4: San Scott. Talk to you soon.

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