Speaker 1: Hum. If you watch the Coffee Time the baby, you
Speaker 1: know the name flame my role also known as my
Speaker 1: role flame. Come in with last, come in with Jim
Speaker 1: love lounds. Baby, you better catch it when you can't
Speaker 1: drop a knowledge from fatherhood to politics, shouting out comics,
Speaker 1: just paying homice. What's up? Tip? Yeah, you know she
Speaker 1: raped shot towns on speaking to the ground. And second
Speaker 1: we're gonna last kind of kicking in at the end.
Speaker 1: We leave it with just a lift spirit make you
Speaker 1: want to revisit. So your first take a list of
Speaker 1: young folks say it slip, oh folks that we dig it.
Speaker 1: Don't kiss? Do what you do? No kiss, do what
Speaker 1: you do? No kiss? Do what I do. It's playing
Speaker 1: welcome ladies and gentlemen to laughing line would flame my
Speaker 1: road and Nick Smith, I'm flaying my role just in
Speaker 1: case you guys didn't know. Right there, it's Nick. When
Speaker 1: I was talking to you earlier this week, though you're
Speaker 1: talking about smoke coming all across Long Beach. Moke was
Speaker 1: in Orange County. So that's why I can't put lashes
Speaker 1: on because the smoke was in Orange County, and baby,
Speaker 1: I lived right there outside of one county. This has
Speaker 1: been a fire season for you all. This has been
Speaker 1: a fire season period because for four years we've had
Speaker 1: a fire in the White House. I'm glad somebody had
Speaker 1: put that goddamn fire out. Welcome to love, laugh and
Speaker 1: learn with flame, Monrow and Mr Who Nick Smith, Ladies,
Speaker 1: gum and let me share your hands. Y'all, take a
Speaker 1: good look at him now. You might not see him
Speaker 1: again into Thursday when you watch the other because I'm
Speaker 1: not taking the camera off these titties today. Baby, get
Speaker 1: you what Dr de Brow? I love you, Terry Debro,
Speaker 1: you know, but indeed is he here? He's not here,
Speaker 1: but he did my booty. I love that. I love
Speaker 1: And I asked him did he look up under my
Speaker 1: dress when I was sleeping you? Because I had some
Speaker 1: Michael Jackson juice, that profifile best ship ever. Let me
Speaker 1: tell y'all something right now, I know what might to you. Baby,
Speaker 1: let me cheer you something. I don't know. That is
Speaker 1: what the profifile did. You just don't know anything. You
Speaker 1: sleep so wonderfully and so comfortably. When I woke up,
Speaker 1: I didn't even know I had surgery. I thought they
Speaker 1: changed their mind. Shut up, seriously. I got him and
Speaker 1: walked to the elevator. It's like your wheelchairs right here.
Speaker 1: I only know what y'all didn't do not I was
Speaker 1: all reading Michael Jackson Juice Baby, if they could get
Speaker 1: it an UPL bottle. I take it. I take that
Speaker 1: for I take that coronavirus vaccine fame. I'm glad you
Speaker 1: mentioned that you know the vaccine is moving forward. In fact,
Speaker 1: we were just talking about how h they are ready
Speaker 1: to move forward with actually administering the vaccine to a
Speaker 1: number of people. Give it to your mama, your uncle's
Speaker 1: and your kids, because you will not give it to
Speaker 1: me or my Jewish? Are we not taking it? And
Speaker 1: Lauren Hogan, my wonderful manager, brought into information today to
Speaker 1: say that in Japan they have said that they are
Speaker 1: not giving it to their citizens because of the side effects,
Speaker 1: well or lack of that. They don't know about the
Speaker 1: side effects. But before before that happens, you do understand
Speaker 1: that there are several different vaccines floating out that are
Speaker 1: supposed to treat coronavirus and COVID. So the ideas that
Speaker 1: there there's more than just one, say that again several exactly.
Speaker 1: So if it's one vaccine to fix one ailment. How
Speaker 1: could you have three or four different vaccines. They're gonna
Speaker 1: fix one ailment because there are different developers. You know,
Speaker 1: you can have different TVs that still stream a television show,
Speaker 1: and some TVs are better than others. Let me say,
Speaker 1: I'm not taking none of that ship, but you know.
Speaker 1: But but before you dismiss it, there are things that
Speaker 1: are happening with that. I think that we should also
Speaker 1: mention how they're talking about how there will be a
Speaker 1: vaccine card um and it is possible. We don't know
Speaker 1: what that card will mean, but it will show that
Speaker 1: those who have taken the vaccine um will get a
Speaker 1: little card and those who have not obviously won't have
Speaker 1: the card. Some are saying that card will be because
Speaker 1: there are some vaccines that will require more than one
Speaker 1: dosage so that you can track your dosage. But it
Speaker 1: is possible they will stop or restrict the movement to
Speaker 1: those who haven't been Understand this, ladies and gentlemen, And
Speaker 1: let me tell you, I have been fooling me when
Speaker 1: I was younger as a woman. If you can fool
Speaker 1: me in with tips, you can fool people with another car.
Speaker 1: Remember all the d D scams they had going on
Speaker 1: this past year. Let me tell you something. It's always
Speaker 1: away around some ship. Understand that, So create the cars.
Speaker 1: I know some people who can make it. I know
Speaker 1: a bitch who can build a house in three minutes.
Speaker 1: Right now, I know what I want to call it.
Speaker 1: I get the division. I'm gonna speak that, so noble
Speaker 1: ain't no problem. I'm gonna get past that. But I'm
Speaker 1: not doing anything. You don't have any honey. People get
Speaker 1: millions of dollars on the d D unemployment pandemic scam.
Speaker 1: We will always find a way. I'm not doing it.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you all right now, that's up to you all.
Speaker 1: I'm not telling nobody what to do for themselves. I'll
Speaker 1: tell you what I'm not doing for me. And even
Speaker 1: with our former president saying that they will take the
Speaker 1: shot live on television that Obama, Obama, I love you, player,
Speaker 1: you might dude all day. I want to interview you.
Speaker 1: I want to shake your hand, hand out with your
Speaker 1: and their thing. But I can shoot a couple of
Speaker 1: rounds with you. But nigger, you can take all the
Speaker 1: shots you want to give it to you and everybody,
Speaker 1: I'm not taking it. I'm not trusting anyone with this
Speaker 1: because and it's not that I don't trust the President Obama,
Speaker 1: but because this administration has shown such a disdain for
Speaker 1: the American people and we have just become collateral damage.
Speaker 1: I'm not doing I don't trust any but I don't
Speaker 1: trust my mama. And she called me and told me
Speaker 1: take a shot. I can't go up on a flame.
Speaker 1: There are people are definitely suffering right now. And I
Speaker 1: know that you wanted to make sure the way he
Speaker 1: started the show um in a special way today because
Speaker 1: there's just a lot happening right now that it's been
Speaker 1: on your heart and and things you want to share
Speaker 1: talk to us. I am I am a fan and
Speaker 1: not a fan of Wendy Williams. If you understand that.
Speaker 1: I love her what she does and everything, but sometimes
Speaker 1: she gets someone nerve. But Wendy Williams has been under
Speaker 1: a lot of pressure lately and then her mom just passed.
Speaker 1: Yes say so, always going on in her personal life
Speaker 1: with her the Voice openly being so public and living
Speaker 1: her life under that, and now her mom died. I
Speaker 1: don't know what God uh has on her, but I
Speaker 1: hope she leads to God and looks to God to
Speaker 1: to find her way out of this. And I want
Speaker 1: to start off a special prayer this morning for Wendy Williams.
Speaker 1: What I passed her for the show this. You know,
Speaker 1: we have our own church here at Love Life, Laugh
Speaker 1: and Learned. Look at me, I'm confused. And it's called
Speaker 1: the hesy We Church of God in Christ. So I
Speaker 1: want to bring on past the Erskine and first lady
Speaker 1: who was pastorin let people know who may be joining
Speaker 1: us for the first time. I'm laughing. Ester Erskine is
Speaker 1: a preacher out of Michigan. Him and his wife, they've
Speaker 1: just been fans of mine for a while and they
Speaker 1: they've come onto the show and expressed it. And he
Speaker 1: doesn't have an actual church yet, but he always praised
Speaker 1: over the show. He prayed and we get he prayed
Speaker 1: over the show when we were just doing comp time.
Speaker 1: And now look where we are, so so Reverend erskin
Speaker 1: you know I want you, we need we need you
Speaker 1: right now before we bring to teach a camera very
Speaker 1: special guests on to just put a prayer in for
Speaker 1: Wendy Williams and her family. And here's my thing. The
Speaker 1: Wendy was very close to her parents from what we
Speaker 1: see from the outside looking in. She always had them
Speaker 1: on the show, and the mom and dad had been
Speaker 1: married for years and years. And you know, when people
Speaker 1: have been married a long time, they become so much
Speaker 1: more than husband and wife. They are companions, They are
Speaker 1: soul mates, they are friends, they are confidants. And that
Speaker 1: their dad is old. The mom is eighty three. I
Speaker 1: don't know how old the father is, but they have
Speaker 1: been a yell of like forty or fifty years. You
Speaker 1: talked about that, because you also talked about the correlation
Speaker 1: between that and say, Whitney Houston, who always leaved into
Speaker 1: her face, who always ladd into her face. We watched
Speaker 1: Can I Be Me the other day and whatever you
Speaker 1: ever interview, you saw, whatever you thought about Winney Houston,
Speaker 1: besides her being one of the greatest things, if not
Speaker 1: the greatest singer of all time, that she always looked
Speaker 1: to God no matter what. She could be high as
Speaker 1: a kite, and sometimes it was kind of prevalent that
Speaker 1: she was high, and some of those interviews, but she
Speaker 1: had always acknowledged the Lord. Wendy, I need you to
Speaker 1: lean on God right now because I don't know what
Speaker 1: to test you up against. But you can pass this test,
Speaker 1: and guess who's gonna help you right now, Reverend Erskine,
Speaker 1: Reverend Erskin, I'm gonna turn this over to you and
Speaker 1: let you give us a quick three minute prayer before
Speaker 1: we bring to cause. Lady Jim y'all praying, hands up
Speaker 1: and send your own private prayers up. Windy, Wendy Williams
Speaker 1: and her family head they're having the most gracious and time. Father,
Speaker 1: we come before you right now, Father God. Thank you,
Speaker 1: Lord God for being God and being God all by yourself,
Speaker 1: Father God, we come standing in agreement, touching and agreement
Speaker 1: right now, Father Guy. For used to look down upon
Speaker 1: Wendy Williams and her family, Lord God as they go
Speaker 1: through the loss of their loved one, her mother, Father Guy,
Speaker 1: Father God of maxim that you just comfort them, Lord
Speaker 1: God in a way that only you can comfort, your
Speaker 1: Father God. So God, for we know that you are
Speaker 1: a confident Lord God. We know that you are everything,
Speaker 1: Lord God and Lord God. In times like these, Lord God,
Speaker 1: is when we need to Lord Your God, when we
Speaker 1: think that we are alone, Lord God, we know that
Speaker 1: it is you that it carries us. Father God. So
Speaker 1: right now, Father God, I'm asking that you just comfort her.
Speaker 1: Lord God, give her the strength that she needs to
Speaker 1: carry on. Lord God, I pray that you place people
Speaker 1: around her, Father God, that will keep her uplifted in prayer,
Speaker 1: Lord God, that will lead her in the right way.
Speaker 1: I pray for our family members as well, Father God,
Speaker 1: that as they go through this this time of bereavement,
Speaker 1: that they, too, Lord God, can look to you, Lord God,
Speaker 1: from which their strength coming from. Lord. For we know,
Speaker 1: Lord God, that when we lean and depend on you,
Speaker 1: Lord God, that there's nothing that we can do. So
Speaker 1: right now, Father God, in the name of Jesus, we
Speaker 1: just thank you for being with that family. We thank
Speaker 1: you for in with Wendy right now. We just thank
Speaker 1: you right now for embracing her, Lord God and just
Speaker 1: keeping her. We also pray for this podcast for a
Speaker 1: God that is just reach out and touched millions and
Speaker 1: billions of people. Father God, Lord God, that uh it's
Speaker 1: knowing that it's a transfer of information, and Lord God,
Speaker 1: that we just come on here and learn from each other,
Speaker 1: that we just laugh and learn and bless the guests today.
Speaker 1: Father God, just bless her and each and every one
Speaker 1: of her endeavors. Blessed her and her her family, blessed
Speaker 1: Flame and Mick Lord God, and just continue to just
Speaker 1: keep them on the right path. This we pray in
Speaker 1: Jesus name and for His name sake. Amen, Amen, Amen, Amen,
Speaker 1: thank you. Rather so you guys can follow Earthkin Porter
Speaker 1: and Catrice Po and get special private prayers or what
Speaker 1: have you. Er skin, the church is comming. I don't
Speaker 1: know we're gonna call it he she with Church of
Speaker 1: God in Christ. That might not be good, but it's
Speaker 1: coming to me. Thank you. I love you guys. Appreciate you. Guy,
Speaker 1: Wendy Williams. That was for you, my dollar. Thank you,
Speaker 1: thank you, thank you so much. This is one of
Speaker 1: those things, Flames, where you talk about how faith and
Speaker 1: and and God has always present you. Also, um had
Speaker 1: a challenging situation this week because you trusted the process
Speaker 1: of making a purchase. Are you gonna just put me
Speaker 1: on blast? And that I got used. I was used
Speaker 1: like a rug, y'all, so be careful ordering offline, not
Speaker 1: all everything. I ordered some um wardrobes for Marketplace, and
Speaker 1: so they went through fine. So I wanted to order
Speaker 1: a golf card, so that said one. It was beautiful,
Speaker 1: it was twelve. I did all this stuff Lauren was
Speaker 1: the one who actually typed in the I had to
Speaker 1: go get six eBay cards, but I'm not an eBay
Speaker 1: so I just went in as a guest baby. And
Speaker 1: then so As I sent that money and she told
Speaker 1: me I need another thousand dollars to deliver. I'm like,
Speaker 1: it's running up the street. I can walk up here
Speaker 1: and get it if I wanted. On a good day, baby,
Speaker 1: we never heard none. Theydn't changed the phone number. Che
Speaker 1: So I got ganked out of twelve hundred dollars, y'all.
Speaker 1: I got the player. I got played. That hurts my field.
Speaker 1: You know. I don't like to be played, because you
Speaker 1: know I like to play games. But baby, it's funny
Speaker 1: when the roots you, isn't it. No, it's not that
Speaker 1: it's not. But I believe you'll get that back. I
Speaker 1: do think though. It's a warning to all the flame
Speaker 1: mets out there and those who may be listening. Around
Speaker 1: the holidays, there tends to be a spike in online scams.
Speaker 1: You know, holidays. It must have been a holiday for
Speaker 1: four years, because that nigga been scamming for four years
Speaker 1: and still scamming. Won't leave even none of that one
Speaker 1: of the other things. You want to talk about. This
Speaker 1: in the headlines today, we're talking about the fake meat.
Speaker 1: Yeah that say that again. Please the fake meat, fake meat.
Speaker 1: So I'm talking to all you women out there. If
Speaker 1: your man come home with fake meat, are you gonna
Speaker 1: put it in your mouth? I'm just asking for I'm
Speaker 1: asking for a frame. It don't even sound conducing. You
Speaker 1: are absolutely ridiculous. That's like the impossible burger. It's gonna
Speaker 1: be impossible for me to eat some ship that's not real. Oh,
Speaker 1: it's plant based, so it's we Well, the I the
Speaker 1: idea behind the fake meat is that they are now
Speaker 1: growing meat genetically um in a lab, so they're growing
Speaker 1: meat without the need to slaughter animals, and and also
Speaker 1: the emission of greenhouse gases the ideas to reduce all
Speaker 1: of that. You know. Okay, so wait a minute, make
Speaker 1: this make sense to me. They're they're growing meat because
Speaker 1: they don't want to have um, they don't want to
Speaker 1: kill the animals, and they want to try to uh
Speaker 1: prefer life or what did you just say, they want
Speaker 1: to preserve life? Yeah, okay, but you were just telling
Speaker 1: us a few years ago that pork isn't good for you.
Speaker 1: Bacon ain't good for you. Then beef had the mad
Speaker 1: cow disease, then chickens was nuts and everything else, and
Speaker 1: but now y'all come up with coronavirus. I tell you what,
Speaker 1: I'm going to continue doing what I've been doing and
Speaker 1: make it work for me. This is the idea. Is
Speaker 1: actually called cultured meat, and it's meat produced by in
Speaker 1: vitro cell culture of animal cells instead of from slaughtered animals.
Speaker 1: It's a form of cellular agriculture. Culture. Meat is produced
Speaker 1: using many of the same tissues. It's just engineered and
Speaker 1: done in a technique to taste like and feel like meat.
Speaker 1: According to the Bible, Jesus and them a goats, they
Speaker 1: slaughtered some lambs a baby. They was okay for them.
Speaker 1: It was just okay for me. If it was okay
Speaker 1: with Jesus, it's okay with that baby, it's good enough
Speaker 1: for me. I'm not eating the process me. I never
Speaker 1: had an impossible burger, because it sounds impossible for me
Speaker 1: to put that in my mouth. We today have a
Speaker 1: very special guest joining us momentarily that we're extremely excited about.
Speaker 1: You've seen her in so many different things. I think
Speaker 1: what's most notable about her that you were. Her most
Speaker 1: memorable role will probably probably be Gina from Martin from
Speaker 1: the Main Lions Show, where she absolutely just killed that
Speaker 1: role like you wouldn't believe. But she has so many
Speaker 1: roles and so many things up under her repertoire. And
Speaker 1: she's a triple well, she's a quadruple threat because she's
Speaker 1: an actress, singer, dancer, but she's also a mother, yes,
Speaker 1: your parents. That might be harder than all the other
Speaker 1: three put together, especially in the midst of a pandemic,
Speaker 1: you know, flame You and I talked about too, just
Speaker 1: the amount of work it takes to do what it
Speaker 1: is that one does in Hollywood in a in a career,
Speaker 1: because one of the things we've talked about is how
Speaker 1: she has had to evolve and change with the times.
Speaker 1: She's a singer, she's a dancer, she's done theater, she's
Speaker 1: done Broadway. Um, what does it take to manage and
Speaker 1: maintain a career and that that amount of longevity. I think,
Speaker 1: especially when you're a black woman, you have to be
Speaker 1: good at everything because you're always being Like we talked about,
Speaker 1: you will always have to prove yourself. So from one
Speaker 1: level to the next level, to the next level. You
Speaker 1: always have to prove yourself. Well, hello, you got on you.
Speaker 1: I don't want to be alone tonight. I don't want
Speaker 1: to be alone. Let's scamble stopped because I'm already flamed
Speaker 1: me to stop and give you a proper introductor. Here
Speaker 1: she go, just going right on into place, rolled up
Speaker 1: on me like the coronavirus and ship. Wait a minute,
Speaker 1: Slow down, players, slow down, ladies and gentlemen, please welcome
Speaker 1: to laugh and learn. A very special guest, the multitalented actress, singer,
Speaker 1: dancer mother. That's the hardest role, the beautiful and very
Speaker 1: talented miss Tita Cambla mar y'all, t Sha, We've been
Speaker 1: waiting on you, were glad you joined us. Get to
Speaker 1: the end of you. I have to just say this.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna fan out for a minute. I have loved
Speaker 1: you since and this is no lie. I have loved
Speaker 1: you since little shop, Uh Bob Bob, little shop for
Speaker 1: horr us. T Sha, you are amazing. You always have
Speaker 1: been to me. There is just it's your energy is everything.
Speaker 1: So let's just go ahead and get this time. Because
Speaker 1: this is not the Mixed Smith Show, but you know
Speaker 1: it could be. We don't need flame here. You know,
Speaker 1: you know he scating on thin T shirt, so he
Speaker 1: better watch yourself. I just I just looked like mother,
Speaker 1: I'm the boss. I'm that nigga. How are you watching?
Speaker 1: How you how you holding up doing this pandemic. I'm
Speaker 1: doing really well. I had a few losses. You know,
Speaker 1: some people who um passed away suddenly, but um, I'm
Speaker 1: doing good. My kids are amazing. Um. You know, I
Speaker 1: just I took the time out through this pandemic to
Speaker 1: just kind of be still because you don't have no choice.
Speaker 1: Well that part and then, um, but it was amazing
Speaker 1: spending that time with my kids. Well, since you brought
Speaker 1: up your children, let me let me cause I'm a
Speaker 1: parent as well. You have two children. I have three. No,
Speaker 1: I called you the other day at your house. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, exactly, so you know I'm picking up the
Speaker 1: right So let me ask your T shirt because you
Speaker 1: have a son that's nineteen years old, and your son
Speaker 1: stuffers with a tabit of autism. Right, but you as
Speaker 1: a parent, because you know I had the research and
Speaker 1: see all this, I did not. I knew you had
Speaker 1: an autistic some but I didn't know how much work
Speaker 1: you had spent with your son to show him how
Speaker 1: to be whatever we consider normal that your son drives
Speaker 1: and he's very responsible for himself. And Kevin Mays, who
Speaker 1: was a mutual friend of ours who introduced me to you,
Speaker 1: always talked about what an amazing parent you were to
Speaker 1: take that patience and take that time with your autistics
Speaker 1: on to just make him perfect. You have made him
Speaker 1: special because you took the time. Everybody is not able
Speaker 1: to do that. So outside of all the other stuff
Speaker 1: that you've done it, I accept the diagnosis, but I
Speaker 1: don't accept the label. So it was really all about um,
Speaker 1: you want to be as independent of me as possible,
Speaker 1: because when you get at diagnosis, it's the scariest thing
Speaker 1: in the world. And as a parent, you know it's
Speaker 1: almost like somebody came in stole your child's spirit and
Speaker 1: now you're left with an empty shell. At first, that's
Speaker 1: when you first get that diagnosis because you're just like,
Speaker 1: what is happening and you would do anything to save
Speaker 1: your child's life. But one of the Holly Robinson Pete
Speaker 1: was one of the first people that I have reached
Speaker 1: out to and she was like, you ready for the work.
Speaker 1: She got me. Ever, all the way quick because at
Speaker 1: first she was like, I'm so sorry, that's what there's
Speaker 1: Her voice changed on me. It flipped on me, and
Speaker 1: she was like, Okay, you ready, You ready for the work.
Speaker 1: And I was like, yeah, I'll do anything. She's like, no,
Speaker 1: are you ready? Because you gotta be ready, you gotta
Speaker 1: you gotta move, you gotta try all kinds of different things.
Speaker 1: It may not work. Go go with what your gut
Speaker 1: is telling you. And it was all of those things
Speaker 1: that I really needed. And she was one of those
Speaker 1: people that was really there for me and if every
Speaker 1: beginning and she just you know, and I gave myself
Speaker 1: three days degree. It happened on a Friday. I gave
Speaker 1: myself three days degree. And I was like, all right,
Speaker 1: on Monday, you're gonna get up, you're gonna advocate, and
Speaker 1: you're gonna fight for your child. And so that's what
Speaker 1: I did. And so I didn't. I wasn't in denial. Um.
Speaker 1: I kind of knew something was up earlier. UM. And
Speaker 1: I think it has a lot to do with the
Speaker 1: fact that I'm an actor. I think that was the
Speaker 1: reason I became an actor, is because what we do
Speaker 1: is we we we study human behavior and we try
Speaker 1: to master emotions, and when I saw a lack thereof
Speaker 1: I knew something was up. So I was doing early
Speaker 1: intervention and didn't even realize that. You know what I
Speaker 1: commend about you because there was a lesson in what
Speaker 1: you just told me. Outside of evenit or what Holly
Speaker 1: Robinson and you had to do the work. The lesson
Speaker 1: was when she came to you and you said, she
Speaker 1: flipped her tone, and you didn't take that aggressive. You
Speaker 1: didn't take like she was attacking you. You took that
Speaker 1: message and you you held onto it and you made
Speaker 1: it work for you. Kind of like when I first
Speaker 1: started doing track, there was a queen who told me
Speaker 1: I was a mess. She told me I was terrible.
Speaker 1: Instead of me taking that and saying I was defeated,
Speaker 1: she put a fire up under my ass to say,
Speaker 1: get better, do better, be great. I love her to
Speaker 1: this day. She did years ago, but we both knew
Speaker 1: her and love it. So I love that message, teacher,
Speaker 1: And I know a lot of people didn't know that
Speaker 1: because everybody come on me to come on and talk
Speaker 1: about all your accolades, and I'm gonna get to that too,
Speaker 1: But I want to commend you as a parent. No,
Speaker 1: I like you told me when you told me honey,
Speaker 1: you said, we're gonna talk about everything. And I kind
Speaker 1: of like that because I like for people to get
Speaker 1: to know me past the persona you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: M hmm. And we are over here and that I
Speaker 1: love that lipstick to let me say that, that's cute.
Speaker 1: I want you to look at my handsome partner. I
Speaker 1: want to ask you more about parenthood and and being
Speaker 1: a mom, because um, you know, and now you're you're
Speaker 1: moving and operating as a single mom, you know. And
Speaker 1: I grew up in the house of a single parent,
Speaker 1: and I know the work that goes into raising a
Speaker 1: black boy, and I know the work that goes into
Speaker 1: trying to manage and do it all alone. There talk
Speaker 1: to us about how you're doing that right now in
Speaker 1: the midst of COVID, with everything happening right now, and
Speaker 1: still trying to, you know, provide a safe space for them. Well,
Speaker 1: you know what it was. It was a great time
Speaker 1: for me. You know how black people do half the time,
Speaker 1: like you know what we were. If we're put in
Speaker 1: a bad situation, you make we take those lemonades and
Speaker 1: we make I mean, we take those limbits and we
Speaker 1: make lemonade. Right. I always say, I always say, you
Speaker 1: give me some intestines. I would make some chiplends. Just
Speaker 1: clean the first girl, just the first of the worst situation,
Speaker 1: and we can all from it. Like at that, moll
Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, I got my kids with me.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna work hard to make sure that I had
Speaker 1: time to put into them, time that I didn't have before.
Speaker 1: You know, we played, we played games, we talked, we
Speaker 1: had dinners. Not that I didn't do this before, but really,
Speaker 1: sit down, you know, what's your future life? What we
Speaker 1: were having these conversations about the money. And we don't
Speaker 1: teach our children about finances. We don't teach them not
Speaker 1: to be afraid of it. You know, it's just not
Speaker 1: embedded in our you know, that's when I brought up
Speaker 1: that way. So teaching my children out to save and
Speaker 1: what that means and and how to you know, navigate
Speaker 1: around money and understanding because I'm trying to learn it
Speaker 1: at the same time, because everybody did that for me.
Speaker 1: You gotta remember, I I grew up as a I
Speaker 1: was in this business at three years old, so and
Speaker 1: then I went straight into a marriage. You know, what
Speaker 1: I mean from her. So I went from household to
Speaker 1: household where everybody else was taking care of the finances,
Speaker 1: and so as I'm being taught, I'm teaching. So we
Speaker 1: had those moments and we really got close and we
Speaker 1: played games and we took walks and we it was
Speaker 1: it was such a wonderful bonding moment for us. You know,
Speaker 1: we got to talk about a lot of stuff. To Tasha,
Speaker 1: when those conversations that you have with your children, when
Speaker 1: you because I'm with you, I'm We've been having a
Speaker 1: lot more sit down dinner. Are you amazed at some
Speaker 1: of the things that your kids know that you'd be like,
Speaker 1: I tried to shelter you from that. You know about this,
Speaker 1: and you know, I'm not be amazed, Like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: you heard that my kids know some stuff that I
Speaker 1: thought I would never hear them say. But I'm like, baby,
Speaker 1: I had to take my wig off and scratch my head,
Speaker 1: I promise. So Teching. When you were a young girl,
Speaker 1: did you aspire to be an actress, a singer, or
Speaker 1: a dancer? Which one was your first love? Or comedian music?
Speaker 1: Singing I took from a musical family. My mother. You
Speaker 1: got to push all the drag queens used to do
Speaker 1: push Baby. We all pushed. I was pushing and getting
Speaker 1: pushed up on. I'm pushing them up now. From a
Speaker 1: gospel house, a gospel background. So yeah, my mother, my mother,
Speaker 1: my mother's uh gospel group were called the Shockoley Singers.
Speaker 1: That's what made a name, the Shockoley Singers. And they
Speaker 1: were kids, but they said background for Mehellia Jackson. So
Speaker 1: and then I just found out that they had a
Speaker 1: pop name too, which was called the Lollipops. And that's
Speaker 1: a whole another story. But they But but I learned
Speaker 1: a lot because my mother, actually I was I asked
Speaker 1: her recently because I got sent all these pictures from
Speaker 1: this woman in Europe who's like obsessed with, you know,
Speaker 1: girl groups, and she said, um, yeah, I said, were
Speaker 1: you having a group called Lollipops? She was like, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I like mom. So the mother so the mother was
Speaker 1: she was the church woman in the daytime and she
Speaker 1: was p valley at night. Yet because I was called
Speaker 1: but here here's the thing that my mother, I think
Speaker 1: was like eight when they were the Lollipops, and she
Speaker 1: said she remembers having to um when she sang the
Speaker 1: song they had to stand behind curtains and have a
Speaker 1: Caucasian three Caucasian girls sing their parts, and she said
Speaker 1: it devastated her from the business. Um that and many
Speaker 1: other things that she saw in this business, but having
Speaker 1: to have somebody else sing your parts and it's you
Speaker 1: and because they're white, Tisha, you mentioned something I want
Speaker 1: to touch on and and because I want to go
Speaker 1: back into the career. But you were just talking about
Speaker 1: fiscal and financial responsibility. Uh tsha. You know, we've tried
Speaker 1: to read a little bit of everything. But when you
Speaker 1: when you actually left your marriage, is it true that
Speaker 1: you were broke? Did you what? What was your situation? Like, No,
Speaker 1: that's true. I'm not gonna have seven dollars in the bank.
Speaker 1: No no, no, no, no, no, I had. I was
Speaker 1: trying to buy a knife for seven dollars, but I
Speaker 1: had like twenty something dollars. Well I'm glad you had
Speaker 1: to get the knife, because who was you gonna use
Speaker 1: that knife? Phone? Okay, nobody. Every Christmas I would have like,
Speaker 1: oh man, like thirty forty people at my old house.
Speaker 1: And once I left, I actually had to move into
Speaker 1: a five square foot apartment. And um, while you know,
Speaker 1: they were going back and forth to the old house
Speaker 1: and to my five square foot apartment. You know I
Speaker 1: had to, you know, I well, let me just put
Speaker 1: it this way. I talked about how being responsible with
Speaker 1: your gifts, and I knew that I was always responsible.
Speaker 1: I did my best with my gifts that guy gave
Speaker 1: me and utilize it as a platform um for the
Speaker 1: for the greater good, whether it's for my community, my family, whatever.
Speaker 1: So I knew that I will work um because I
Speaker 1: just I pushed that hard. I'm really aggressive when it
Speaker 1: comes to career, and I'm proud of how I have
Speaker 1: the relationships that I have in this business because I'm
Speaker 1: always kind, and I have work ethic and I'm professional
Speaker 1: and I do what I'm supposed to do. But you
Speaker 1: know that part going back to zero from whence I
Speaker 1: had come it was probably the best thing that I
Speaker 1: had that has ever happened to me. Well, you know,
Speaker 1: I talked about it being a beautiful devastation, like when
Speaker 1: you have to start over, you don't know why, you
Speaker 1: don't know why you're in this situation, what is happening,
Speaker 1: how this happened, And when you start, when you have
Speaker 1: to go to zero, you have to look within, and
Speaker 1: you have to have faith. And so this is the
Speaker 1: first time in my life I can say that I
Speaker 1: had true faith, because faith, to me was you get
Speaker 1: on your knees, you pray, you get up, you do
Speaker 1: the work. That's what I thought it was. But when
Speaker 1: you're at zero and you don't have and you don't
Speaker 1: know how you're gonna eat, and you have to start
Speaker 1: all over, and you have to define who your real
Speaker 1: friends are, and you have to you know, all of
Speaker 1: these things come into play, and you have some angels
Speaker 1: around you. You have angels that come in like Regina
Speaker 1: and Toshina and you know, my friend Danny and all
Speaker 1: my brother Stan and all of these people who just
Speaker 1: say we're not gonna let you fall. And they didn't
Speaker 1: like like literally three days after, like about three three
Speaker 1: or four days, three or four days after, I moved
Speaker 1: into the five Hood Square for the department. And I
Speaker 1: mind you, I hadn't lived in an apartment since I
Speaker 1: was in my twenties. Um three days later I get
Speaker 1: a call that I got the Regina King pilot. So
Speaker 1: you have these angels that swooped down and it's like
Speaker 1: she didn't even know because I kept a secret by
Speaker 1: the way I didn't tell anybody. I told nobody that
Speaker 1: you know, we were separated. I kept a secret and
Speaker 1: nobody knew. And so you know, you know, I love
Speaker 1: that story and I love that you found your purpose
Speaker 1: through that because a lot of people that things break
Speaker 1: them and they just they just flatland and just like
Speaker 1: I can't do it anymore. But girl, I'm telling you,
Speaker 1: when you got the strength and you have a purpose
Speaker 1: and you know that that fire is burning in you
Speaker 1: because you knew that that fire was burning into with
Speaker 1: that faith, girl, that is that is unstoppable. That is
Speaker 1: like a say. I had to find my faith. I
Speaker 1: had to understand and I had to keep going. I
Speaker 1: even had a person named Shanty DAWs who was right
Speaker 1: there with me at the moment of where I was like,
Speaker 1: I don't know how much more I can take. And
Speaker 1: there are those moments. Don't get me wrong. I'm not
Speaker 1: just the fire like I could just you know, I
Speaker 1: was broken and I was like, how am I gonna
Speaker 1: feed my kids? And how could this possibly be me
Speaker 1: in the situation? But I was okay because I still
Speaker 1: had I still had solid ground to walk on with
Speaker 1: God and my kids and my and my true friends
Speaker 1: and my family members who were like, I'm gonna be
Speaker 1: the friend that you need, the way that you need,
Speaker 1: because I was always there for everybody else. You know what,
Speaker 1: you know, what's wonderful about that, teach allow me to
Speaker 1: cut you off. What's wonderful about that is that your
Speaker 1: children were your purpose for you not to go into
Speaker 1: the dark cold. So you couldn't get in a fetal
Speaker 1: position and be depressed because you always had somebody that
Speaker 1: relied on you and you had to be responsible for
Speaker 1: a girl. I know that, I know that role just
Speaker 1: like it happened yesterday, and I had a three month old,
Speaker 1: a three year old, and a three half year old,
Speaker 1: so I exactly. You know, you can't even get depressed.
Speaker 1: You're functioning depressed because you've got somebody that you're responsible
Speaker 1: for that means more to you than to yourself. You
Speaker 1: have somebody like that. A J. Johnson, who I've known,
Speaker 1: you know, which gosh for a very she's not only
Speaker 1: an actress, but she's also a life coach and those
Speaker 1: she popped into my life. There was this one situation, though,
Speaker 1: tell it. We want to know all of it, all
Speaker 1: of it. I wanted to she was trying to tell
Speaker 1: me that a friend wasn't being a friend. And I
Speaker 1: was so used to in my old and old Tisha
Speaker 1: land of protecting anyone it didn't matter what they ever
Speaker 1: did to me, right, But she was trying to tell
Speaker 1: me this friend isn't being a friend and I literally concurs,
Speaker 1: right of course, girl, that's my show, I say everything
Speaker 1: so um uh So I said, well, you know what,
Speaker 1: you could get the funk out, and she was like, huh,
Speaker 1: you're kicking me out. No, I'm kicking you the fuck out.
Speaker 1: Get the funk out, that's what I call her. And
Speaker 1: she was like okay. The next day she called me
Speaker 1: on the phone and goes, hey, I'm just checking on you.
Speaker 1: I just kick you. She was like, I am going
Speaker 1: to be the type of friend that you need. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna be the type of friend that you need, not
Speaker 1: the type of friends that's gonna walk away from you
Speaker 1: at the worst moments. I understand what you're going through,
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna keep checking on me. I said, you're insane.
Speaker 1: I'm like nice, okay, and she was like yeah, but
Speaker 1: I'm gonna call you tomorrow. And that's what she did.
Speaker 1: She understood that I couldn't see and that I was
Speaker 1: blind and that I had a veil over my face.
Speaker 1: I think a lot of times, y'all, I talk a
Speaker 1: lot too, so we want out of times this. This
Speaker 1: business has shield well, my my work shield shielded me
Speaker 1: from a lot of the stuff that goes on in
Speaker 1: this Hollywood game because I've been working work, Wark work, Barka,
Speaker 1: so I didn't see. So there's a lot going on
Speaker 1: in this place. Because people would go, people say stuff
Speaker 1: about Hollywood. I talk what I'm saying like, I literally
Speaker 1: was like, I don't see what you see. Because I
Speaker 1: thought I had the greatest friends ever and that the
Speaker 1: people that I'm connected to or I can't help them
Speaker 1: make be better people or something. But that's not necessarily
Speaker 1: the case. Sometimes I think people come out here and
Speaker 1: they're so obsessed with power and money and prestige that
Speaker 1: I didn't do it for that reason. So at three
Speaker 1: or four or five, I got into the business to
Speaker 1: help my parents. I got into the business to help
Speaker 1: other people, and that continued to be the theme of
Speaker 1: my career, was to help help help others. But now
Speaker 1: I'm at a place where I'm like, I need to
Speaker 1: help me and know who I am and really so
Speaker 1: the COVID isolation gave me the opportunities to just be
Speaker 1: still and really learn who Tsha is. And it was
Speaker 1: the most amazing experience because what I didn't know about
Speaker 1: Tsha was that I had a lot of creating me
Speaker 1: and I know that I like to use my platform
Speaker 1: for the betterment, so I can do all of those things.
Speaker 1: And I had nobody in my ear telling me what
Speaker 1: I couldn't do that I'm not and I started to
Speaker 1: create all of these different shows and all of these
Speaker 1: i'm developing. I got four shows in development right now,
Speaker 1: Thank you God. And um, I'm proud of myself because
Speaker 1: I took what I knew to be true, which was
Speaker 1: my create and I made that build me up and
Speaker 1: I feel so free, so amazing. I feel like a
Speaker 1: better mother, I feel like a better person, I feel
Speaker 1: like a better friend. And I think that's where I
Speaker 1: am right now. Well, I'm proud of you too. Let
Speaker 1: me just say that, and I wanna be I know,
Speaker 1: if you think I got a question, he wants to
Speaker 1: ask what I want to ask. Out of all your
Speaker 1: iconic characters that you have played on TV or in
Speaker 1: a movie, which one was your personal favorite, So between
Speaker 1: Jay or Gina uh or because you know, we all
Speaker 1: know you as we know you. For Jane, I love
Speaker 1: you as j though, because you were older and you
Speaker 1: were so wise and on my wife and kids. Was
Speaker 1: gonna put me on the show? I told David was
Speaker 1: gonna put me on as your brother, but they Yeah,
Speaker 1: what's was your favorite T shirt? You know what? Um,
Speaker 1: it's hard to choose. Its like apples and oranges. But
Speaker 1: I'm actually rediscovering the Martin Show because I never watched it,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Neither Sheena nor I watch
Speaker 1: our work. Right man, why didn't you watch it? Why
Speaker 1: didn't you watch it? We just to Shea and I
Speaker 1: come from the theater and we come from, um this
Speaker 1: different type of hustle. And so you know she's from Queens,
Speaker 1: I'm from Jersey and um, once you finish your job,
Speaker 1: you just move on and you're trying to get to
Speaker 1: the next one, you know what I mean? You know what?
Speaker 1: You have said a couple of things that just remind
Speaker 1: me of my partner. Right now, Flame is done, flame,
Speaker 1: Flame will work on the show, work on the set.
Speaker 1: And I said flame abou last It's like Nick, I'm
Speaker 1: moving on to the next thing. I have to put
Speaker 1: that behind me and work on the next Talk to
Speaker 1: us about that, that thought process, because the rest of
Speaker 1: us is sitting here and like, wait a minute, but
Speaker 1: you killed that, Tisha, Why are you not doing the
Speaker 1: same thing again and again and again? And that's not
Speaker 1: the way it works. Well, I think I think one
Speaker 1: has to remember that they have to recreate themselves and
Speaker 1: recreate themselves. And I think it also comes from the
Speaker 1: fact that um to Sheina and I both Regina think
Speaker 1: all of these people know that the actual career lifespan
Speaker 1: of an actor is only five years. So in order
Speaker 1: to elongate your career, one has to evolve and you
Speaker 1: gotta keep And speaking of to Sheena, because you guys
Speaker 1: just came from hosting the Sole Training Awards for the
Speaker 1: second time. I talked bad about you about the pending
Speaker 1: of the outfit last week. To let me tell you
Speaker 1: their van. It was the first. It was the first
Speaker 1: please girl, It was the first please for me. I
Speaker 1: was like, wait a minute, now, who put it in
Speaker 1: this monkey hair? But you? But to Sheina was on
Speaker 1: one of my absolute favorite shows and we were just
Speaker 1: talking about we got here to the studio survivor's remorse.
Speaker 1: Let me tell you how dope that show and that
Speaker 1: writing was, and to Sina killed that role with that
Speaker 1: Asian actor as her boyfriend baby left and and I
Speaker 1: got my ups and downs with your with your girlfriend
Speaker 1: to China. But I sent a Twitter message and told
Speaker 1: her about it, about the BT comedy Wars years ago,
Speaker 1: in two thousand fact, we talked about that another day
Speaker 1: offline because yeah, that's your girlfriend. I like her too,
Speaker 1: because she's a brilliant actress. I don't know what keep
Speaker 1: talking about. I say, I'll tell you offline before you
Speaker 1: get back to that. We still want to know what
Speaker 1: your favorite role was. Okay, So back to that, Like,
Speaker 1: I'm just starting to look at the Martin Show again
Speaker 1: because all these pennials and Generation Z they're obsessed with
Speaker 1: the nineties. And so I keeps me again going back
Speaker 1: to evolving and recreating yourself. It keeps me a millennial
Speaker 1: around me at all times, okay, because I got to
Speaker 1: keep it fresh. So one of my friends, who who
Speaker 1: is younger, she would always quote Martin Show quote at me,
Speaker 1: and I will be looking at her like, what are
Speaker 1: you talking about? Like, and she would go, you don't
Speaker 1: know what look at the white shoes. Look at the
Speaker 1: white shoes is And I was like, no, is that
Speaker 1: from the Martin Show again, I'm google it. I was like,
Speaker 1: you will not google to look at the white shoes
Speaker 1: and it will pop up and showing up my three
Speaker 1: T shirt. I'm sorry. My three favorite episodes of you
Speaker 1: on Martin one when you had on the powder the
Speaker 1: blue dress with the split and you and Martin was
Speaker 1: trying to battle who could go longest without sex and
Speaker 1: when he picked you up and he said, girl, I
Speaker 1: could not. I love that. When Martin got beat up
Speaker 1: by the boxer and he had the great, big gass
Speaker 1: head with all the nots on it, you had to
Speaker 1: kiss them. That was hilarious. Y'all started dancing and twerking.
Speaker 1: You was working long before twerking. And my absolute third
Speaker 1: third every episode is when you sang in the black
Speaker 1: mini dress with his t strap dress and you're saying, um,
Speaker 1: Tina Marie firing desire girl. That was the one that
Speaker 1: show can be put in the time cap so for
Speaker 1: two thousand years from now and still be very relevant.
Speaker 1: That was a great But you know what's interesting, we
Speaker 1: didn't know what was gonna be like that Wow, it
Speaker 1: was fucking and it was the ensemble cast that was
Speaker 1: so great. It was not just Martin and just you.
Speaker 1: It was t Shirt, it was called Payne, it was
Speaker 1: Tommy Ford. Made he rest in peace. So once he passed,
Speaker 1: I was so glad that you guys did not do
Speaker 1: the reboot because I didn't want to see anybody else
Speaker 1: play his role. I only wanted him. And we were
Speaker 1: just talking about how that show stands and with some
Speaker 1: of the greatest shows ever. But because we've talked about
Speaker 1: Norman lear Well, Flame and I just talked about an
Speaker 1: episode of Maud and how it was. It was the
Speaker 1: it was the collaboration, it was the ensemble cast, and
Speaker 1: that's exactly what you all did. And you all were relatable,
Speaker 1: and I think you need to know how much you
Speaker 1: meant too fair families that you know, teacher, I don't
Speaker 1: know how many people you get a chance to interact with,
Speaker 1: but it was it was a moment where you could
Speaker 1: sit down with the family. I grew up in a
Speaker 1: single parent home, Tisha, and we would my mother and
Speaker 1: I would watch this show and we would laugh together
Speaker 1: because it was always just enough. It wasn't too much
Speaker 1: where you weren't embarrassed to sit there with your mama
Speaker 1: and watch you know what I'm talking about. But it
Speaker 1: was one of those things. It was this good family
Speaker 1: fund and it was it was it was it was
Speaker 1: black excellence, Tisha, and it was just it was just
Speaker 1: a joy to to actually watch that moment and and
Speaker 1: just see you and again this was this was mama,
Speaker 1: that's teaching from a little little shop of horse, you know.
Speaker 1: So it's just one of those things where it's just
Speaker 1: always been so much. We went in there to just
Speaker 1: make people laugh and feed our families. But we never
Speaker 1: thought that it would, you know, like be like the
Speaker 1: Brady Bunch or I Love Lucy, where it just keeps
Speaker 1: going on and on and on and new new generations
Speaker 1: discover it. We didn't think. We we when we sit
Speaker 1: down and talk, were like, can you believe this? We're
Speaker 1: kind of in shock that people refer to us as icon.
Speaker 1: We really did not know that. We did not know
Speaker 1: or see that comment. But I think the best part
Speaker 1: of that was I still didn't answer your question. By
Speaker 1: the way, I don't I don't hear me, sister. I'm
Speaker 1: paying very close attention. I am, I just like I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna push on that, but I'm enjoying rediscovering these
Speaker 1: two characters, Martin and Gina. It's really nice. I mean,
Speaker 1: people write songs about it. It's it's so interesting. My
Speaker 1: children enjoyed Martin. My children love Martin. They watched the
Speaker 1: Martin Show. They loved Martin Show. They when I told
Speaker 1: him I was interviewing you, my daughters were like, you
Speaker 1: gotta view her. They loved the episode when you were
Speaker 1: trying with Biggie Small. So that's triple the producer here.
Speaker 1: She loves the episode when you and when you and
Speaker 1: pay him to Sheina, Oh, triple says she loves you
Speaker 1: when you and Shea were trying to devide for Biggie
Speaker 1: Small attention when he was having the talent show. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she said, she absolutely loves that. That's her favorite episode.
Speaker 1: You know, I love I love being able to you know,
Speaker 1: to Sheina and not even known each other since we
Speaker 1: were eleven and twelve years old, and um, it was
Speaker 1: a blessing to be able to do a show like
Speaker 1: that with one of your friends. You know, that's the
Speaker 1: best Sis I've known. And like you said, I did
Speaker 1: a little type of Horrors with her when I was
Speaker 1: sixteen years old, and we've been hanging in there and um,
Speaker 1: we have that knowledge that about only having a five
Speaker 1: year career lifespan, we we keep doing our best to
Speaker 1: entertain people and we've we're honored to have surpassed those
Speaker 1: five years and to have served people in that way.
Speaker 1: So let me ask you a question, T Shirt. When
Speaker 1: did you and to Sheina ever have to go up
Speaker 1: against each other for roles and one of you all
Speaker 1: got the role? So because you know, we always like
Speaker 1: I want this role, I want this role, but your friends?
Speaker 1: Had that ever become an issue? Did that ever money
Speaker 1: the waters in your relationship? I love that? I love
Speaker 1: that that never did? I think when we first met,
Speaker 1: we met on an audition and we were the only
Speaker 1: two people talking to one another and everybody else was
Speaker 1: you know, you know, snooty Ear doesn't want to you know,
Speaker 1: I didn't want to have conversations, and we just gravitated
Speaker 1: to one another. And then next thing you know, I'm
Speaker 1: calling her, Yo, you heard about this audition, and she
Speaker 1: was like, nah, it's like all right, come on and
Speaker 1: roll with me to this this audition. To just write
Speaker 1: your agents name down like I would tell her about
Speaker 1: stuff because because it was like, if I don't get it,
Speaker 1: I hope she does. And that's the viewpoint we both
Speaker 1: had about each other. And we've been, you know, silently
Speaker 1: cheering each other on. We've even had our moments where
Speaker 1: we have gone and and and you know, lived our
Speaker 1: lives separately, and you know, she's still working, I was
Speaker 1: still working. But we were always silently supportive of one another.
Speaker 1: And now you know, coming being able to come together
Speaker 1: and do these kind of things and her, you know,
Speaker 1: her jokes and she's just the funniest girl. Both of
Speaker 1: you guys are great singers. But when I love that
Speaker 1: about that message that you just so it more women,
Speaker 1: And I'm talking to women, not just black women, but
Speaker 1: if more women can found the spirit to uplift their
Speaker 1: friends and their people in their lives to say, I
Speaker 1: encourage you, do you. But I always wish the best
Speaker 1: for people too. I mean teach I call plenty ship,
Speaker 1: I talk plenty ship. But I always feel like my
Speaker 1: blessing is gonna come. Whatever guy gonna bring to me,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be ready to take it, and it's gonna
Speaker 1: be for me. When my when Nick came on as
Speaker 1: my partner, there was a no brainer about who I
Speaker 1: wanted how I wanted to go half down the middle
Speaker 1: because this is my partner. I didn't want him to
Speaker 1: feel cheated. I didn't want to feel like I was
Speaker 1: bigger than him or better than him. This is a partnership.
Speaker 1: And I love that your friendship. You showed that because
Speaker 1: a lot of people can take that a different way.
Speaker 1: When she keep beating me out for roles, what if
Speaker 1: she got three or four in a row and you
Speaker 1: didn't get one. You didn't take it on the partner.
Speaker 1: You you encourage your friend. That's a whole woman right there.
Speaker 1: All you half a bitches out here. I'm talking to
Speaker 1: y'all because it's a whole woman right here. And it's
Speaker 1: about knowing that if something's for you, it's for you,
Speaker 1: and if it's not for you, for you. And I
Speaker 1: kept telling Flame like, this is not out how the
Speaker 1: business works. You don't you don't go out of your
Speaker 1: way to help somebody else like that, and and Flames like,
Speaker 1: this is the way I work. This is who I see.
Speaker 1: That's funny. I don't understand that concept. So I've always
Speaker 1: been that way, has always been that way. The people
Speaker 1: that I love have always been that way. So we
Speaker 1: always encourage one another, We we cheer for one another,
Speaker 1: we root for one another. So I don't know any
Speaker 1: other way of being. So when people say that it's
Speaker 1: actually shocking. Yeah yeah, Tisha, do you still deal with
Speaker 1: how do you deal with? Let me ask you this,
Speaker 1: because again we're talking about friendships. I wouldn't be here
Speaker 1: right now if we're not for this amazing soul sitting
Speaker 1: next to me. Right, more than thirty years we've known
Speaker 1: each other, right, I'm so it's one of those things
Speaker 1: where I consider playing to be one of the best
Speaker 1: blessings of my life period. Right. How do you deal
Speaker 1: with even now, Tisha? Just disappointment or challenges you know,
Speaker 1: and and what words or encouragement can give to people
Speaker 1: because those moments do still come. Are there's still things
Speaker 1: that you've worked for that you're like, why didn't that roll?
Speaker 1: Or to such happen? How do you deal with that?
Speaker 1: And what what words do you give of encouragement do
Speaker 1: you give to those who may be aspiring? I think
Speaker 1: there comes a time you know, as you're working on
Speaker 1: your own mental wealth and health, as you're as you're
Speaker 1: working on self, you realize that life is a balance.
Speaker 1: Bad things are gonna happen. Bad things are going to happen.
Speaker 1: It's not that and it may be a different lesson.
Speaker 1: It may be the same bad thing that keeps happening, right,
Speaker 1: But it's the way that you handle it. It's the
Speaker 1: way that you deal with and maybe I have to
Speaker 1: deal with it in a different way. I have to
Speaker 1: learn that. Like I remember, even recently, Um, I was
Speaker 1: having a meeting with a very big network. Uh, this
Speaker 1: is only a couple day. I was having a meeting
Speaker 1: with a really big network about one of my projects,
Speaker 1: and it was so much good news. And then I
Speaker 1: find out my friend passed away, Troy um Clark, and
Speaker 1: it was like it's it's heartbreaking and it's shocking. And
Speaker 1: at one moment I'm having the most amazing moment and
Speaker 1: then the next it's like, so you learned to just
Speaker 1: understand that life is a balance and it's all in
Speaker 1: the way that you handle it. Like I encourage people
Speaker 1: to seek therapy, life coach, whatever your thing is, UM,
Speaker 1: spiritual coach. UM to Sina's aunt was really helpful. She's
Speaker 1: a pastor UM and she was really helpful. You know, Um,
Speaker 1: But you know, I have some really amazing people around me,
Speaker 1: and just know. I think it's really important that people
Speaker 1: know that life. Life is gonna balance itself out. Yes,
Speaker 1: I want to ask you a question. They have nothing
Speaker 1: to do with the acting and nothing to do with
Speaker 1: your career. I want to ask you about the vaccine.
Speaker 1: You know, the vaccine. They're pushing it real hard to
Speaker 1: come out this week, possibly Wednesday, as early as Wednesday.
Speaker 1: I don't allow my children to take the flu shot,
Speaker 1: so I know for a fact we're not taking I
Speaker 1: want to ask you, how do you feel about the
Speaker 1: vaccine teaching? What are you What are your thoughts on
Speaker 1: You don't have to tell us whether you're taking or not,
Speaker 1: but what are your what are your thoughts on it? Oh,
Speaker 1: I'm not taking it? Okay, there, you got there. You
Speaker 1: don't come off saying I'm not taking it, because usually
Speaker 1: it takes them years, right, right of just research and
Speaker 1: I'm not confident in the science. But that's just me, guys.
Speaker 1: I'm not INTI vaccines. It's what you want to do
Speaker 1: with your body and your children and your family. I
Speaker 1: personally do not take the flu shot because every time
Speaker 1: I chuck it, I happened to get sick. Um, but
Speaker 1: that's just me. I'm not saying that that's what it
Speaker 1: does to everybody. But I'm gonna be real about it, like,
Speaker 1: that's not that's not something that I personally I'm comfortable doing. Okay,
Speaker 1: So let's make up. We gonna I want you to
Speaker 1: sing because I've made up a song. I haven't made
Speaker 1: up the words, but I have a title of a
Speaker 1: song for the vaccine. It's called give It to Your Mama.
Speaker 1: So go ahead and write a rap and sing about that.
Speaker 1: It's called give it to your because I'm not taking it.
Speaker 1: Are you excited now? You know, without going into anything
Speaker 1: too political where you may not be comfortable talking about,
Speaker 1: are you excited about the next four years? And are
Speaker 1: did things shake out the way you wanted them to
Speaker 1: with this? That's what I'm talking about. I expected to
Speaker 1: say something like, well, actually, you know, I'm trying to
Speaker 1: figure out where the administration made off. No, Listen, when
Speaker 1: it comes to family and choices and vaccines and stuff,
Speaker 1: I don't judge anybody for whatever that is. That is
Speaker 1: totally what is up to them. But when it comes
Speaker 1: to the next four years and getting rid of what
Speaker 1: we've been through the demise of our country. I am very,
Speaker 1: very excited, and I really you know that's why you
Speaker 1: know when we you know, we produced the Whole Trade
Speaker 1: Awards as well. I don't know that. Yeah, we produced
Speaker 1: them as well, and so it was really important for
Speaker 1: us to pay tribute to African American women because we
Speaker 1: really came through this year. We did. You know, we
Speaker 1: did it. We did it, We did we did did
Speaker 1: you did you see I'm an African American one? Oh no,
Speaker 1: I caught it. And wait a minute, hold on that
Speaker 1: that's a school. Let me ask. Let me tell you
Speaker 1: something as a transperformer, as a drag queen performer, so
Speaker 1: many of us have done be alone tonight as production
Speaker 1: numbers and then pages and contest and everybody tried to
Speaker 1: look like you. I want you all to know I
Speaker 1: headed down to a science when I was a younger girl.
Speaker 1: Baby I had the body and everything did oh I did?
Speaker 1: Baby girls on there were lovely. Uh some of them
Speaker 1: didn't age that way, but all those girls were loving.
Speaker 1: That was a joke. You missed it, that went over
Speaker 1: your head. I'm pretending she knows who I'm talking about.
Speaker 1: Just hold the smile, you know, I don't hear the
Speaker 1: flame is talking about, don't play to me. You know
Speaker 1: I wasn't raised right. I was raising in the projects
Speaker 1: with a whole lot of boys. Used to catch a
Speaker 1: girl kissing girl? Did you were you raising the projects?
Speaker 1: I'm from North New Jerky. Most people don't know that
Speaker 1: because I play a lot of buzzy roll. That was
Speaker 1: the best living ever living in the projects when in
Speaker 1: the seventies and eighties. I'm telling you all right now,
Speaker 1: But I want to ask you a question, teacher, serious
Speaker 1: questions in Chicago. I'm from Chicago. I grew up on
Speaker 1: the Web. I grew up, I grew up on the
Speaker 1: West Side. I was educated on the South Side. I
Speaker 1: did my I came out on the No Side, but
Speaker 1: I did my best work on the East Side. They
Speaker 1: don't know what that means. Tcher. You know what I
Speaker 1: want to see you do that I've never seen. I
Speaker 1: want to see you do your serious series dramatic role.
Speaker 1: Have you ever considered that I actually started out doing drama,
Speaker 1: A lot of drama. Um, I could not get arrested
Speaker 1: doing comedy. Oh yeah, if you wanted somebody to drop
Speaker 1: a tear or two or five or twenty, teacher, was
Speaker 1: your girl and um, I didn't know what comedy was
Speaker 1: and nobody. In fact, I would audition for comedies and
Speaker 1: I remember this one casting director one of those moments
Speaker 1: we were talking about earlier that it was criticism, but
Speaker 1: I actually took it to heart, not to heart, but
Speaker 1: to the brain, and she said, you need sitcom classes
Speaker 1: and I was like, Okay, where do I take those?
Speaker 1: She's like, there aren't any. So I knew that all
Speaker 1: these comedians were getting deals and I needed to if
Speaker 1: I was going to get on a show, I had
Speaker 1: to learn what it was. So I used to go
Speaker 1: to the comedy act theater, comedy store, the laugh Factory,
Speaker 1: sitting the back with the comedians to try to figure
Speaker 1: out what comedy was. And the really good ones were
Speaker 1: the ones who told their true life stories. And I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, it's a thin line between drama and comedy.
Speaker 1: Got it. Got it. I am flabbergass in the fact
Speaker 1: that you said that you didn't know comedy as funny
Speaker 1: as you were on my Oh my god, some of
Speaker 1: those lines. And the timing was timing, Oh my god.
Speaker 1: You can't teach timing. You cannot teach timing. It is,
Speaker 1: It's got to be in you. I know that I
Speaker 1: really good at dancing with different comedians and especially those
Speaker 1: who come from you know, from the stage and from
Speaker 1: you know, stand up and what you what you do
Speaker 1: flame um, But I'm really good at learning who they are,
Speaker 1: their movements, and then I tried to either enhance support
Speaker 1: or counter like sometimes some of the actors would get
Speaker 1: really really big, like you see those moments from are
Speaker 1: In or from from Gaming, and then I'd go really
Speaker 1: ground to you know, ground the scene and see where
Speaker 1: they would go. But I was also very good at
Speaker 1: not laughing because I never wanted them to, um miss
Speaker 1: an opportunity for comedy, So I had to hold my laughter.
Speaker 1: And Tina was the worst, No, Tommy was the worst.
Speaker 1: But to set would hold hers and go but you
Speaker 1: wouldn't know she was laughing on set. You know what
Speaker 1: show I would have made you well, I thought would
Speaker 1: have made you break. Remember this show where you guys
Speaker 1: had won the trip and Martin when you guys went
Speaker 1: to the island and the little road in the rat
Speaker 1: or the gopher or something you will find girl out
Speaker 1: that ship right there was so funny. We were short
Speaker 1: and we needed to elongate the scene because we the
Speaker 1: show wasn't going to make it to the you know,
Speaker 1: it's usually twenty something minutes and short. And he was like,
Speaker 1: t I have to know this, so just roll with me.
Speaker 1: I was like, I got you, and so we just
Speaker 1: had to elongate the sea too for everdence. That was
Speaker 1: so funny, Tita, what can you share with us about
Speaker 1: You talked about a couple of projects again, we want
Speaker 1: to make sure we get a chance to plug anything
Speaker 1: you want to talk about. And before you answer, before
Speaker 1: you answer, you said it was four shows. There better
Speaker 1: be a land for the better be a lane or
Speaker 1: two for training in there. I'm just saying, how how
Speaker 1: about a lot of Actually is one character that I'm
Speaker 1: really hoping that they go with because it's a it's
Speaker 1: a drama. Actually I can get seriously want the way
Speaker 1: going off? How do you want me? How do you
Speaker 1: need me? Please keep that way going? That's all we're
Speaker 1: gonna ask. Please for everybody's sick, don't do that. One
Speaker 1: I can talk about which, um I love it's my
Speaker 1: passion project and the way that I got connected to
Speaker 1: this woman, Tony de Rivera was actually through watching The
Speaker 1: Breakfast Club my show. Shout out to Charlemagne dj Envy
Speaker 1: and Angela y Y. Yes, right, that's right. And I'm
Speaker 1: so grateful to them because I saw this woman doing
Speaker 1: an interview and um, she used to be trafficked. Her
Speaker 1: name is Tony de Rivera. She used to be human trafficked,
Speaker 1: and now she they're calling her, they're referring to her
Speaker 1: as the new Harriet Tubman. She saved over two thousand
Speaker 1: people last year from being human. And so we're doing
Speaker 1: a doc your follow of her reconciling families and reacclimating
Speaker 1: people who have been in the streets back to their
Speaker 1: families and to their loved ones. And and I'm really
Speaker 1: really passionate and proud of this piece because again it's
Speaker 1: one of the things where I told Tony, I was like,
Speaker 1: I think we can help people on a broader basis.
Speaker 1: Please allow me just to push as hard as I can,
Speaker 1: as she did, and I'm I'm so thankful to her
Speaker 1: because I just wanted that help in any way shape
Speaker 1: that is. Teacher. Well, then I'm gonna put you on
Speaker 1: sparer here. We would love to at some point talk
Speaker 1: to you about having her on the show. We're talking
Speaker 1: about Tony de Rivera and she's the author of the book.
Speaker 1: Um uh silent screams on the front lines. Correct. And
Speaker 1: you can follow Tony de Rivera Tony d Rivera, she's
Speaker 1: on Instagram. So, teacher, let me ask you a question
Speaker 1: about her. So you said two thousand people. So they
Speaker 1: were trafficking men and women or boys and girls and
Speaker 1: just and boys, girls, um, L G B t Q
Speaker 1: plus everybody. So, and it's for different reasons. Sometimes it's
Speaker 1: for sex trade industry or sometimes it's for um, um,
Speaker 1: what do you call it? Oregon and I harvesting. She
Speaker 1: talks about that here on the Oregon Harvesting Tisha. Yeah, definitely. Wow.
Speaker 1: She has been helping so many people, taking her own money,
Speaker 1: you know, and with her husband and trying to either
Speaker 1: buy people back or help them get back. And and
Speaker 1: I was like, just trees. And so I have to
Speaker 1: thank you know, dj n V and Charlemagne for the
Speaker 1: platform that they gave her, because it took me. It
Speaker 1: took me weeks to have the courage to call her.
Speaker 1: I mean I didn't call her and um because I
Speaker 1: didn't know how I could help. But I know, I
Speaker 1: just reached her and I was like, I just got it,
Speaker 1: But want to tag your something out, So what should
Speaker 1: we look for from you, Tisha? How should we support
Speaker 1: because now you have the flame mats and everybody who
Speaker 1: has been part of laugh and learned, Tisha, we love you,
Speaker 1: we consider you family. How can we support this project
Speaker 1: and mission um and the and the message you want
Speaker 1: to put forward. We just want to put those roses
Speaker 1: we call them, they call them roses on the streets,
Speaker 1: you know, get those roses back and we plant them.
Speaker 1: And she has a foundation called Rolls the Roles Foundation,
Speaker 1: and however anybody can contribute to that, UM, but go
Speaker 1: on her page. UM, we are doing like legitimate you know,
Speaker 1: in the streets, we're doing that kind of work. So
Speaker 1: you know she's funding everything by herself. Were share, We're
Speaker 1: going to share that information on this That was great.
Speaker 1: I would have never known about it. Head you I mentioned,
Speaker 1: I didn't know. I didn't know that. I knew about
Speaker 1: the human trafficking, but I didn't know about this lady.
Speaker 1: And because I haven't seen Ali her and we will
Speaker 1: let you all connect offline to something that is great.
Speaker 1: That's amazing you have shown us today. Girl. You are
Speaker 1: so much more than what I said. An actress singer
Speaker 1: moh dancer and mom, girl, you are a a warrior
Speaker 1: and I like it. I don't got warrior in us.
Speaker 1: I got male and female warrior, and I got male
Speaker 1: and female warrior and me. So you come on way
Speaker 1: to baby. The left titty as the girl and the
Speaker 1: right titty is the guy. I'm telling you right now, teacher,
Speaker 1: that's a whole lot. Are you ready to have that
Speaker 1: on set? That's what I'm asking you, you know, because
Speaker 1: that audition gonna be a lot. You need to be
Speaker 1: ready for that teaching. You made a you made a
Speaker 1: point about this woman being the new Harry. Tell me.
Speaker 1: You got a great joke about Harry. Tell me. I
Speaker 1: said that Harry Tubman had to be the first trans
Speaker 1: man ever, because you know, trans me and a women
Speaker 1: who identified as me and looked like me. That's how
Speaker 1: she got away with so many times, because she was
Speaker 1: looking like a little like a little dude running back
Speaker 1: and forth. Because I'm telling you something right now, I
Speaker 1: wouldn't have been a good slave if I would have
Speaker 1: got away. Y'all was on y'all own. I wasn't coming
Speaker 1: back for nobody, my mom and my kids, everybody has
Speaker 1: been stuck. Baby, I'm having but I have to tell you,
Speaker 1: just let you know is not alone on that one flame,
Speaker 1: said Nick, you would have been one selling us out
Speaker 1: for a two piece flame hiding over there. As soon
Speaker 1: as I see a spicy guy give flame hiding over
Speaker 1: their mouth, so I see flame, look at them right
Speaker 1: over there. Love Chicken, Love Chicken, Tischer, Campbell, Markin, We
Speaker 1: love you. I thank you so much for doing this.
Speaker 1: We all want to share that making me very information.
Speaker 1: I just want to keep my faith my fist up
Speaker 1: to you and say I'm proud of you. I love
Speaker 1: that you know who you are because in my words
Speaker 1: that I tell everybody, can't no bit do what you do.
Speaker 1: Can't nobody do when the next person does, find your
Speaker 1: lane and enjoy your lane because nobody is going to
Speaker 1: do They can do the same job you're doing it,
Speaker 1: but they will never do it like you do. And
Speaker 1: Teach Campbell, can't nobody do it like you? Let me
Speaker 1: hit that. See I can't, I can't, I can't even
Speaker 1: hit the day, ladies and gentlemen, Teacher Campbell, Martin, actress,
Speaker 1: singer Mom dancer of that, I wait on that phone
Speaker 1: call for that audition. Thank you beautiful, And before we
Speaker 1: close out, because you know that many of the flame
Speaker 1: maks have been asking you to to do this, to
Speaker 1: do what it is that you do, which is just
Speaker 1: talk to people and have a show go where it's
Speaker 1: one of the things. You are talking people you've watched,
Speaker 1: you've admired over the years, and you asked her some
Speaker 1: great questions. What did you learn? I learned today that
Speaker 1: she is a philanthropist and she's the whole person because
Speaker 1: she sees the world in black and white. She don't
Speaker 1: she ain't making the world be what she wants it
Speaker 1: to be. And even though a life lesson that she
Speaker 1: and she was taught us many life lessons. If you guys,
Speaker 1: listen to those stories, because you can take things and
Speaker 1: you can make them however you want to be. So
Speaker 1: you can tell ten people can tell or two people
Speaker 1: can tell you one thing. You can take the good
Speaker 1: or you can take the bad, or you can find
Speaker 1: a message up under what both of them have told you.
Speaker 1: I love that she gave you all the message and
Speaker 1: what we said a little bit earlier. Baby, you never
Speaker 1: know how strong you are until you have to be.
Speaker 1: We appreciate you teaching coming Mark, for sharing your story.
Speaker 1: We're glad that you found your way back. We are
Speaker 1: more glad that you found you because, like I told
Speaker 1: you before, you can't have from yourself everywhere you go,
Speaker 1: there you are, and just so we are also recognized
Speaker 1: the fact to flame you and I've talked about how
Speaker 1: every conversation is a blessing. We learned something I was
Speaker 1: not familiar with Tony de Rivera or the work UM
Speaker 1: in this passion project that now teach us a part of.
Speaker 1: We will definitely be sharing more information on about that
Speaker 1: when we post the show. Because we have UM, we've
Speaker 1: lived in Chicago. We know that there are people who
Speaker 1: are on the streets. We know that there are often
Speaker 1: people who are in situations we've been blessed. We weren't.
Speaker 1: Weren't part of that. You know, I worked the streets.
Speaker 1: Oh you may just live I work, But I didn't
Speaker 1: work the streets when I was you know, I'm just
Speaker 1: you know, this is laugh and learning. If I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna tell you all the truth, nobody can nobody tell
Speaker 1: my story better than me. Yes, I did work the streets.
Speaker 1: It was very shortly, maybe like a year or two,
Speaker 1: but I had a great time. Okay, so that's not
Speaker 1: today's topic. That We're gonna come back to that. Ladies
Speaker 1: and gentlemen, we have had an amazing time. I'm so
Speaker 1: glad that my partner is back here with me today
Speaker 1: next to me. If this is my buddy, my partner,
Speaker 1: we thank you guys for joining us here at Laugh
Speaker 1: and Learn just here each and every monthy. You can
Speaker 1: also catch me on Coffee Time, doing doing throughout the
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Speaker 1: Nick Smith at at Nick Smith News on all platforms.
Speaker 1: So yes, and my and my manager Lauren Hogan over
Speaker 1: there was just Lauren Armani Hogan. Uh learn our money
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Speaker 1: or and Nick together, it's he she We bookings at
Speaker 1: gmail dot com. If you're not familiar with what he
Speaker 1: she is. He cash your check, she makes the money.
Speaker 1: We spend it. The same bitch that's talking to you
Speaker 1: and looking at you and you're looking back it. That's
Speaker 1: one person. He she weak. I got three subtypes. Three
Speaker 1: pronouns and that all works for me. Ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 1: This is Laugh and Learn. This is episode number four,
Speaker 1: and I'm telling you it was great. Please join us
Speaker 1: next week. We have had an amazing time. We are
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