WEBVTT - The Diddy Trial Day 3: Cassie Testifies 0:00:02.920 --> 0:00:06.640 Hey, they're folks, and welcome to Amy and TJ presents 0:00:07.280 --> 0:00:11.160 the Diddy Trial. This is Wednesday, May fourteenth, which represents 0:00:11.560 --> 0:00:15.400 day three of testimony in the Diddy trial. In day 0:00:15.600 --> 0:00:19.440 two was absolutely captivating roads. There's a lot of people 0:00:19.880 --> 0:00:22.200 know there are no cameras being allowed in the courtroom, 0:00:22.239 --> 0:00:24.760 so there is a whole bunch of places you can 0:00:24.800 --> 0:00:26.840 go and try to pluck and figure out exactly what 0:00:26.880 --> 0:00:29.600 happened in court. So we decide we're actually doing this 0:00:29.680 --> 0:00:31.520 right here to kind of all put it in one 0:00:31.560 --> 0:00:35.440 place and kind of give you the latest, the updates 0:00:35.520 --> 0:00:37.560 and maybe what's most important that's come out of the 0:00:37.560 --> 0:00:38.120 trial so far. 0:00:38.280 --> 0:00:40.440 Yeah, it's interesting because you do have to go to 0:00:40.600 --> 0:00:43.839 several different sources to piece together what was said in 0:00:43.880 --> 0:00:49.000 court because there was so much to go through. Yesterday's 0:00:49.000 --> 0:00:55.040 testimony with Ditty's ex girlfriend Cassie Ventura, was you said, captivating. 0:00:55.600 --> 0:01:00.120 It was so difficult to hear. It's mind boggling to 0:01:00.440 --> 0:01:03.480 hear what she claims happened to her over a ten 0:01:03.560 --> 0:01:07.039 year period. But man, does she get into the details 0:01:07.080 --> 0:01:07.640 and they are. 0:01:07.600 --> 0:01:11.280 Gic, gripping and graphic graphic. Is certainly want to give 0:01:11.280 --> 0:01:12.840 your heads up here, folks, A lot of what you're 0:01:12.880 --> 0:01:16.000 going to hear hear us describe over the next several 0:01:16.040 --> 0:01:20.560 minutes is absolutely gripping. But yes, it is absolutely graphic 0:01:20.800 --> 0:01:24.760 detail and descriptions of those infamous free coughs I think robes. 0:01:24.880 --> 0:01:27.119 When he was first arrested, in the story first start 0:01:27.120 --> 0:01:31.040 coming out, rightly or wrongly, a lot of headlines were 0:01:31.240 --> 0:01:35.199 about the salaciousness, if you will, of these freak coughs, 0:01:35.240 --> 0:01:37.560 these sex parties and baby oil and all these things. 0:01:37.560 --> 0:01:40.399 But she gave us a different type of accounting and 0:01:40.440 --> 0:01:41.920 more detailed than we've heard so far. 0:01:41.959 --> 0:01:44.360 Probably baby oil, I feel like those were the two 0:01:44.400 --> 0:01:49.240 words that everyone was talking about, and how much baby 0:01:49.240 --> 0:01:52.360 oil was found in his homes when they were rated 0:01:52.360 --> 0:01:56.560 by police. But she certainly talks about how it was 0:01:56.680 --> 0:02:00.400 used and how drugs were used, how she didn't sleep 0:02:00.440 --> 0:02:04.480 for days, she claims, because she was hopped up on drugs. 0:02:04.520 --> 0:02:07.160 And she talks about what the hotel rooms look like 0:02:07.320 --> 0:02:10.520 after these freak offs. She said that linen's were stained 0:02:10.560 --> 0:02:14.280 with blood and urine and baby oil and just the 0:02:14.360 --> 0:02:16.760 destruction that took place in some of these rooms, she claimed. 0:02:16.880 --> 0:02:20.320 So let's get to what was day two? So this 0:02:20.400 --> 0:02:23.840 is when, Yes, Cassie Ventura took the stance. She has 0:02:23.880 --> 0:02:26.320 absolutely star witnessed in this case. She's the one who 0:02:26.360 --> 0:02:29.120 was in a relationship with Ditty for about ten years. 0:02:29.120 --> 0:02:32.600 They were on and off, but this is his former girlfriend. Now. 0:02:32.639 --> 0:02:36.239 She entered the courtroom yesterday and by all accounts, she 0:02:36.280 --> 0:02:38.880 didn't look at him at all. She is thirty eight 0:02:38.960 --> 0:02:41.160 year old woman now who is married, who is about 0:02:41.160 --> 0:02:43.880 to have another child, she's eight months pregnant, in the 0:02:43.880 --> 0:02:47.120 courtroom testifying well some pretty awful stuff, and they say 0:02:47.240 --> 0:02:49.880 she gestured at time and holding her stomach is what 0:02:49.960 --> 0:02:51.200 several places were describing. 0:02:51.560 --> 0:02:56.120 Yes, And in fact, Ditty's lawyers were so concerned about 0:02:56.160 --> 0:02:58.280 how that would play for the jury because she had 0:02:58.360 --> 0:03:00.240 I think she's eight and a half months pregnant. She 0:03:00.360 --> 0:03:03.680 is literally about to give birth, and they were concerned. 0:03:03.680 --> 0:03:07.000 Diddy's attorneys were concerned that that might make some of 0:03:07.040 --> 0:03:10.320 the jurors more sympathetic and cause problems for Ditty in 0:03:10.400 --> 0:03:13.880 terms of just his believability, because people obviously have sympathy 0:03:13.919 --> 0:03:16.280 for what she's saying she went through in addition to 0:03:16.320 --> 0:03:19.560 her current her current condition. So they asked that she 0:03:19.680 --> 0:03:21.760 be seated. The whole time. They didn't want jurors to 0:03:21.760 --> 0:03:24.560 see her standing up, They didn't want to have durors 0:03:24.600 --> 0:03:27.079 see her walking in. But yeah, she walked in eight 0:03:27.120 --> 0:03:29.800 and a half months pregnant, as you pointed out, didn't 0:03:29.840 --> 0:03:32.160 look at him, but by the folks who saw him 0:03:32.160 --> 0:03:34.160 in the court and said he turned his head and 0:03:34.280 --> 0:03:37.960 watched her walk all the way up to the witness stands. 0:03:37.800 --> 0:03:39.640 And a reminder her of folks. We call her a 0:03:39.680 --> 0:03:42.120 star witness, but I think it's fair, is it not 0:03:42.200 --> 0:03:45.200 right Robes that we can say she is the one 0:03:45.680 --> 0:03:51.160 who maybe started this snowball going downhill for Diddy when 0:03:51.200 --> 0:03:54.880 she was suing him for I think I don't know 0:03:54.920 --> 0:03:56.400 if the amount was out at the time, but she 0:03:56.560 --> 0:03:59.640 was suing him for millions and millions of dollars for 0:03:59.680 --> 0:04:02.880 how she was treated. He said he wasn't going to settle. 0:04:03.320 --> 0:04:05.320 I think did the video come out, and I think 0:04:05.360 --> 0:04:06.320 twenty four hours. 0:04:06.120 --> 0:04:09.320 Later everything changed, correct, So yeah, she filed a lawsuit 0:04:09.320 --> 0:04:12.080 I believe it was back in twenty twenty three, claiming 0:04:12.960 --> 0:04:15.440 much of what we're hearing in court today about what 0:04:15.520 --> 0:04:19.480 happened to her. And yes, he settled that lawsuit immediately 0:04:19.839 --> 0:04:23.200 when that video came out, but that, of course, then 0:04:23.279 --> 0:04:26.719 got the attention of federal officials who then started to 0:04:26.760 --> 0:04:30.120 investigate did he And that's when all of this actually 0:04:30.240 --> 0:04:31.720 became a legal issue for him. 0:04:31.800 --> 0:04:35.000 So thirty million dollars is what she got from him. 0:04:35.000 --> 0:04:37.919 But then here come lawsuit after lawsuit after lawsuits. So 0:04:37.920 --> 0:04:40.880 there have been dozens of lawsuits, as you know, people 0:04:40.920 --> 0:04:44.000 coming after him in civil suits having to do with 0:04:44.040 --> 0:04:46.720 how they alleged he treated him. But this is now 0:04:46.720 --> 0:04:49.360 a criminal case. The federal authorities launched a federal case, 0:04:49.400 --> 0:04:51.600 so that is what he's dealing with. Now. Five federal 0:04:51.640 --> 0:04:55.640 counts could get life in prison. But their star witness 0:04:55.640 --> 0:04:57.479 took the stand. And we have to remember Robes and 0:04:57.520 --> 0:05:00.520 this is something we look at her now. She's adult, 0:05:00.640 --> 0:05:05.159 she's composed, she's thirty eight now, but she was nineteen 0:05:05.240 --> 0:05:07.360 years old when they met, he signed her. Can you 0:05:07.800 --> 0:05:10.680 go back that long, some twenty years and remember just 0:05:10.760 --> 0:05:13.279 how on top of the world he was. And for 0:05:13.360 --> 0:05:16.200 the idea of a nineteen year old starting out for 0:05:16.440 --> 0:05:21.000 Sean Diddy Combs to sign you and to show you attention. 0:05:21.880 --> 0:05:23.760 Your daughter just turned nineteen. And when I put it 0:05:23.760 --> 0:05:26.080 in that kind of context, to think of how young, 0:05:26.200 --> 0:05:30.240 how immature you are at that point. That struck me. 0:05:31.640 --> 0:05:33.480 You know, I get chills a lot, But as soon 0:05:33.520 --> 0:05:36.159 as I heard nineteen, you hit it. I have a 0:05:36.240 --> 0:05:40.919 daughter who literally just turned nineteen. She doesn't know anything 0:05:41.200 --> 0:05:42.760 about anything. 0:05:42.520 --> 0:05:45.839 And yes, easily to be offensive, that's just what it is. 0:05:46.040 --> 0:05:49.440 I didn't know anything when I was nineteen, so easily influenced. 0:05:50.040 --> 0:05:53.360 You have big stars in your eyes. You actually think 0:05:53.360 --> 0:05:55.840 the best of people, not the worst. You don't know 0:05:56.000 --> 0:05:58.200 to think that, You don't think anything like that could 0:05:58.279 --> 0:06:02.000 happen to you. And so, yes, she's nineteen, she's starstruck, 0:06:02.080 --> 0:06:06.400 and now he's paying her attention. After he signs her 0:06:06.520 --> 0:06:10.320 to his label, he literally has control over her career. 0:06:10.640 --> 0:06:13.120 I believe he signed her to a ten year album deal. 0:06:13.160 --> 0:06:16.760 She revealed in court that she made ten albums but 0:06:16.839 --> 0:06:21.480 only one got released because he had control over everything 0:06:21.520 --> 0:06:22.200 in her life. 0:06:22.320 --> 0:06:24.920 And again, I can't imagine how star struck you would 0:06:24.920 --> 0:06:26.280 be at that point. This is the guy that can 0:06:26.320 --> 0:06:28.320 make all of your dreams come true, and he's telling 0:06:28.360 --> 0:06:31.479 you how wonderful you are. So they met or she 0:06:31.600 --> 0:06:34.719 signed at nineteen, but they didn't start dating immediately, she 0:06:34.800 --> 0:06:37.200 says in her testimony, she didn't want to date him 0:06:37.200 --> 0:06:39.919 and wasn't interested in him in that way, but twenty 0:06:39.960 --> 0:06:44.200 first birthday party, he kisses her unexpectedly and unwanted, and 0:06:44.240 --> 0:06:45.560 she said it took her a little while to get 0:06:45.560 --> 0:06:47.880 comfortable with the idea of dating him, because that's not 0:06:47.920 --> 0:06:49.440 just something that was on her mind at the time. 0:06:49.640 --> 0:06:52.360 Yeah, and she says that within that first year of 0:06:52.480 --> 0:06:56.280 dating him, they weren't public, but he had just mentioned 0:06:56.760 --> 0:07:00.320 voyeurism to her, that it was a fantasy of his 0:07:00.520 --> 0:07:03.680 to watch other men have sex with her. So it 0:07:03.720 --> 0:07:07.120 didn't happen right away. Obviously, they had an intimate relationship 0:07:07.160 --> 0:07:08.800 where it was just the two of them, at least 0:07:08.880 --> 0:07:12.800 that's what she thought until he brings up this idea. 0:07:12.160 --> 0:07:14.080 And she mentioned as well, I mean this was the start, 0:07:14.120 --> 0:07:17.080 the first time they had again. She describes all this 0:07:17.120 --> 0:07:18.560 on the stand. The first time they had sex was 0:07:18.560 --> 0:07:21.400 on a boat, I believe in Miami. She says she 0:07:21.480 --> 0:07:23.400 was hopped up on ecstasy at the time that he 0:07:23.480 --> 0:07:26.000 had given her. So from the very beginning of an 0:07:26.040 --> 0:07:29.600 intimate relationship, he's feeding her and she's still she's an 0:07:29.600 --> 0:07:32.760 adult at this point, but feeding her drugs. This is 0:07:32.880 --> 0:07:35.480 kind of I guess set the stage for what their 0:07:35.560 --> 0:07:38.720 relationship was going to be. And you think, well, why 0:07:38.720 --> 0:07:40.800 would she do this, why would she participate? Why would 0:07:40.840 --> 0:07:42.760 she stick around? She didn't think she had a choice. 0:07:42.800 --> 0:07:44.520 This is the guy, like you just said, had control 0:07:44.600 --> 0:07:44.880 of what. 0:07:45.440 --> 0:07:48.560 Her career and her life and her money and her 0:07:48.600 --> 0:07:50.760 and her opportunity. And I think that's a huge thing. 0:07:50.760 --> 0:07:53.640 When you're that young, you're thinking about what you're wanting, 0:07:53.720 --> 0:07:56.960 and then once you realize you're in bed literally with 0:07:57.040 --> 0:07:59.840 a man who has total control over your career and 0:08:00.240 --> 0:08:05.720 has power like no one else truly in that community, 0:08:06.160 --> 0:08:08.840 in that music community. He was the guy. So you're 0:08:08.840 --> 0:08:10.720 going to go against him, You're going to tell him 0:08:10.720 --> 0:08:13.920 no when he can literally make or break your career. 0:08:13.960 --> 0:08:16.000 This is what she describes. And so when he asked 0:08:16.000 --> 0:08:18.760 her to have sex with other men while he watched, 0:08:18.800 --> 0:08:21.440 she said she felt like she couldn't turn him down 0:08:21.480 --> 0:08:23.480 because she wanted to make him happy. She says she 0:08:23.600 --> 0:08:25.720 was in love with him, and then she went on 0:08:26.000 --> 0:08:30.600 to give incredibly graphic details about what happened during those 0:08:30.640 --> 0:08:31.280 sex parties. 0:08:31.360 --> 0:08:34.000 And those sex parties, she's again, it was a year 0:08:34.000 --> 0:08:37.199 into them dating until he first mentioned that, and she said, 0:08:37.280 --> 0:08:40.040 she yes, she went along with this first one, the 0:08:40.040 --> 0:08:43.160 first couple, but then they became weekly occurrences. This was 0:08:43.200 --> 0:08:47.440 happening every single week, she said, in every single one 0:08:47.480 --> 0:08:50.680 of them robes, she was high as she could be. 0:08:51.360 --> 0:08:54.040 She was on whatever drug that he gave her, or 0:08:54.080 --> 0:08:56.160 she could be on, and she wanted to be because, 0:08:56.200 --> 0:09:00.520 in her words, she needed a buffer to dissociate from 0:09:00.520 --> 0:09:01.320 the experience. 0:09:01.760 --> 0:09:03.880 Awful makes sense, I mean, I get that. She says 0:09:03.880 --> 0:09:11.120 she was on mushrooms, ecstasy, cocaine, marijuana, any drug that 0:09:11.240 --> 0:09:14.679 was available, and she said there were always drugs available. 0:09:14.720 --> 0:09:18.080 She talked about having to look up the male escorts 0:09:18.120 --> 0:09:20.680 and then show did He the pictures of them to 0:09:20.720 --> 0:09:23.880 make sure he approved. They had to be black males, 0:09:24.360 --> 0:09:26.880 and she said she didn't know many of them by 0:09:26.880 --> 0:09:29.360 their names, but she talked about one that was referred 0:09:29.400 --> 0:09:33.480 to as and this is disturbing the punisher. And that's 0:09:33.520 --> 0:09:37.120 when she says did he would watch and pleasure himself 0:09:37.160 --> 0:09:39.800 while she had sex with other men. Sometimes he was 0:09:39.840 --> 0:09:41.880 in the corner in the room. The rooms were dark. 0:09:41.880 --> 0:09:44.240 He had the lighting the way he wanted it, she claimed. 0:09:44.280 --> 0:09:46.800 Sometimes it was candle light, sometimes it was lighting like 0:09:46.840 --> 0:09:49.480 you'd see in a music video, but he'd if he 0:09:49.559 --> 0:09:51.320 wasn't in the room. She says, he would watch on 0:09:51.360 --> 0:09:54.000 FaceTime and he would direct, as if he was directing 0:09:54.440 --> 0:09:57.120 a porno or a movie, what he wanted them to 0:09:57.160 --> 0:09:58.720 do and how long he wanted. 0:09:58.400 --> 0:10:01.120 Them to do it. So what she's describing now on 0:10:01.120 --> 0:10:02.560 the stand, and she was on the stand for six 0:10:02.600 --> 0:10:06.560 hours yesterday, but what she was describing became her job, right. 0:10:06.600 --> 0:10:08.760 This is a young woman who nineteen twenty twenty one, 0:10:08.840 --> 0:10:10.760 twenty two years old. She thinks her career was about 0:10:10.800 --> 0:10:13.240 to take off, and instead her main job and focus 0:10:13.280 --> 0:10:16.880 of her life became pleasuring this guy with this fantasy 0:10:17.480 --> 0:10:20.600 that she said that he had. And yeah, she got 0:10:20.600 --> 0:10:23.400 into a lot. You said he directed robes. One of 0:10:23.400 --> 0:10:26.880 the big things she said he directed was how much 0:10:27.120 --> 0:10:29.560 and even the temperature of the baby oil? 0:10:29.679 --> 0:10:32.160 Yeah with U. And she said that she would have 0:10:32.200 --> 0:10:36.560 to reapply the baby oil as often as every five minutes, 0:10:36.600 --> 0:10:40.760 because she said that he wanted their bodies to be glistening. 0:10:40.840 --> 0:10:43.000 That's the word she used. And she said that they 0:10:43.040 --> 0:10:47.000 would use up to ten bottles per sex session. That's 0:10:47.040 --> 0:10:49.439 hard to get your head around. She said. One time 0:10:49.679 --> 0:10:51.880 they even filled up a blow up pool in a 0:10:51.920 --> 0:10:55.040 hotel room that was just full of heated baby oil, 0:10:55.400 --> 0:10:57.120 and she was told to get in with her shoes 0:10:57.160 --> 0:10:59.920 and her outfit on so again that she would glisten. 0:11:00.400 --> 0:11:02.600 I think one of the most disgusting parts, I mean, 0:11:02.600 --> 0:11:05.600 this is all hard to digest, but is when she 0:11:05.720 --> 0:11:08.720 described what she was forced to do. She claims with 0:11:08.760 --> 0:11:12.200 the male escort, which involved urination. 0:11:12.520 --> 0:11:17.080 And it looks it's awful. She and we say this, 0:11:17.200 --> 0:11:22.080 we are talking about an adult, a grown woman who's 0:11:22.120 --> 0:11:24.600 about to have another child. Her husband is sitting in 0:11:24.640 --> 0:11:29.000 the courtroom having to hear this crap. And you give 0:11:29.040 --> 0:11:32.959 her credit for she has to face this guy in court. Yes, 0:11:33.200 --> 0:11:35.360 innocent until proven guilty, and this is what we have 0:11:35.400 --> 0:11:38.600 a trial for. But this is what she described that 0:11:38.640 --> 0:11:43.560 there were times that the male escort and Combs would 0:11:43.600 --> 0:11:47.760 actually urinate on her. She said she did, she felt 0:11:47.760 --> 0:11:51.800 disgusted and humiliated, but she continued to go along with 0:11:51.880 --> 0:11:55.240 these parties and the humiliation, all for the sake of 0:11:55.640 --> 0:11:56.880 trying to make this man happy. 0:12:06.040 --> 0:12:08.760 What struck me too is when she was describing one 0:12:08.800 --> 0:12:11.320 of those moments, she said she actually would start choking 0:12:11.600 --> 0:12:14.440 where she actually thought she couldn't breathe, and she'd have 0:12:14.480 --> 0:12:18.280 to lift up her hands to get ditty. She says, 0:12:18.360 --> 0:12:23.079 to allow it to stop. I mean that I cannot. 0:12:23.200 --> 0:12:25.480 It makes I mean, it just makes any woman or 0:12:25.559 --> 0:12:28.560 anyone want to cry even thinking about being in that position, 0:12:28.679 --> 0:12:30.960 or being put in that position, or feeling like you 0:12:31.000 --> 0:12:33.920 couldn't get out of that position. And so you think 0:12:33.920 --> 0:12:36.520 about what's happening. What she says is happening, And she 0:12:36.559 --> 0:12:39.880 says they went on for days, sometimes as little as 0:12:39.920 --> 0:12:44.480 thirty six hours, sometimes as long as four days, she says, 0:12:44.559 --> 0:12:46.040 with no sleep. 0:12:46.679 --> 0:12:49.800 Now that sounds wild, but the idea there. She said 0:12:49.880 --> 0:12:52.040 she was on drugs to the point that it kept 0:12:52.080 --> 0:12:55.000 her awake for all this time. Now you're going through 0:12:55.000 --> 0:12:59.679 this physical exertion. You're going through this obviously a mental 0:13:00.720 --> 0:13:03.760 I can't imagine how someone might feel at the end 0:13:03.800 --> 0:13:05.319 of two days, three days. 0:13:05.200 --> 0:13:08.600 Four days, she'd say she was dehydrated. She was you know, 0:13:08.640 --> 0:13:12.920 she hadn't slept, she hadn't had proper nutrition, proper hydration, 0:13:13.040 --> 0:13:15.160 I mean, all of those things. And so you've got 0:13:15.200 --> 0:13:17.720 all of this going on. But also, she claims under 0:13:17.760 --> 0:13:22.760 the threat of constant physical violence from Diddy. She claims 0:13:22.840 --> 0:13:25.520 that if she made the wrong face, she would get 0:13:25.600 --> 0:13:29.080 hit in the face. If she acted like she didn't 0:13:29.080 --> 0:13:31.920 want to do something, she would be she would be dragged, 0:13:32.000 --> 0:13:34.720 she would be hit, she would have things thrown at. 0:13:34.640 --> 0:13:38.120 Her, and look one of the like you said, I 0:13:38.160 --> 0:13:41.720 think MoMA was one of the most searing images of 0:13:41.760 --> 0:13:44.640 this whole trial obviously has to be that video that 0:13:44.679 --> 0:13:46.840 we all saw. It was the one that CNN obtained 0:13:47.280 --> 0:13:50.520 up Hire in the hallway, dragging, kicking, beating her in 0:13:50.559 --> 0:13:55.160 that hotel. Well, it turns out, she testified yesterday, that 0:13:55.320 --> 0:13:58.760 was her trying to escape a freak off in that hotel. 0:13:58.800 --> 0:14:02.040 What you saw there, she explains now, her trying to 0:14:02.080 --> 0:14:05.200 get away from one of these awful sex parties. She said, 0:14:05.200 --> 0:14:06.679 in particular, there was something going on th wh was 0:14:06.760 --> 0:14:08.439 she had to be in public or something she actually 0:14:08.480 --> 0:14:08.840 didn't want. 0:14:08.880 --> 0:14:11.560 She had a big movie premiere within a few days, 0:14:11.920 --> 0:14:13.720 and then she ended up getting a black eye because 0:14:13.720 --> 0:14:16.400 of it. She says from that video that unfortunately we 0:14:16.480 --> 0:14:19.320 have all seen. But she actually this was a quote 0:14:19.320 --> 0:14:22.200 from her while she was testifying about little small arguments 0:14:22.200 --> 0:14:24.200 that they might have had. She said they would suddenly 0:14:24.200 --> 0:14:26.480 turn violent. She said that Diddy would smash me in 0:14:26.560 --> 0:14:30.960 my head, knock me over, drag me, kick me, stop 0:14:31.040 --> 0:14:33.960 me in the head if I had fallen down and 0:14:34.480 --> 0:14:38.600 you pointed this out. All of this is heartbreaking. All 0:14:38.640 --> 0:14:42.840 of this is disgusting, but something she responded to. She 0:14:43.080 --> 0:14:46.760 was asked if there was anything she enjoyed about the experience. 0:14:48.040 --> 0:14:51.800 Her response was what the time spent with him. 0:14:52.960 --> 0:14:53.680 She loved him. 0:14:53.840 --> 0:14:58.560 That sucks. She was just a young girl. That just sucks. 0:14:58.600 --> 0:15:03.600 Look and a lot of this, yes, is salacious, and 0:15:03.600 --> 0:15:06.240 a lot of the details, and what the defense is 0:15:06.360 --> 0:15:09.200 arguing here is that don't get caught up in the 0:15:09.240 --> 0:15:13.640 salacious details. This is not a case about domestic violence, 0:15:14.440 --> 0:15:17.720 right you all are charging him with sex trafficking. This 0:15:17.760 --> 0:15:20.720 would be a different situation if this case were about 0:15:20.720 --> 0:15:24.640 his domestic violence. It's not. So they're saying, just because 0:15:25.320 --> 0:15:28.680 you're seeing these awful things, and just because you saw 0:15:28.680 --> 0:15:31.040 that video, it doesn't mean that the government has a 0:15:31.120 --> 0:15:34.560 legitimate case against this man. It is all you're going 0:15:34.640 --> 0:15:36.160 to see. And they say they're going to show these 0:15:36.160 --> 0:15:38.960 freak offs in court, and we should mention as well 0:15:39.000 --> 0:15:41.800 that journalists have been asking to see them as well, 0:15:41.960 --> 0:15:44.240 and a judge at this point at least is said no. 0:15:44.440 --> 0:15:47.480 But he did seem like perhaps he was willing to 0:15:47.640 --> 0:15:50.640 hear the arguments for First Amendment rights. Obviously, the concern 0:15:50.760 --> 0:15:55.120 is there are victims or alleged victims here who are naked, 0:15:55.520 --> 0:15:59.800 and so obviously there are privacy issues that are like 0:16:00.360 --> 0:16:01.080 massive here. 0:16:01.440 --> 0:16:03.440 What was that? And forgive me, he said, what's the date? 0:16:03.520 --> 0:16:06.080 He's given them a timeline to respond, I believe, to 0:16:06.120 --> 0:16:09.720 put in an argument for whether or not he's going 0:16:09.760 --> 0:16:11.960 to let journalists. But he's expecting to your point, they 0:16:11.960 --> 0:16:15.160 are expecting some types of arguments to be made by 0:16:15.160 --> 0:16:17.760 several sides about it, and they want look pool reporters. 0:16:17.800 --> 0:16:20.240 It wouldn't be just showing an opening court to everybody, 0:16:20.240 --> 0:16:22.560 but they would have a couple of pool reporters look 0:16:22.600 --> 0:16:24.840 at it and then be able to report back. 0:16:24.760 --> 0:16:26.600 What they saw what they saw, you know. And we're 0:16:26.600 --> 0:16:29.880 also expecting Cassie is back up on the stand today 0:16:29.920 --> 0:16:32.360 and she will be cross examined, but we are expecting 0:16:32.400 --> 0:16:36.240 her to detail what she claims was an actual rape 0:16:37.120 --> 0:16:40.480 by Diddy. And you mentioned her husband is in the courtroom. 0:16:40.520 --> 0:16:42.840 The defense did not want him in the courtroom. They 0:16:42.880 --> 0:16:47.160 said that they may actually call him to testify on 0:16:47.520 --> 0:16:50.040 their side to corroborate what they're claiming, and so they 0:16:50.040 --> 0:16:53.160 didn't want him to hear her testimony. A compromise was made, 0:16:53.200 --> 0:16:55.640 and so when she does go into those details about 0:16:55.640 --> 0:16:59.240 what she says was rape, he will have to leave 0:16:59.280 --> 0:17:02.760 the courtroom, and that happens. But otherwise he is listening 0:17:02.800 --> 0:17:04.639 to all of this. I'm sure he's heard it before. 0:17:05.280 --> 0:17:07.760 I'm sure they've obviously talked about this, but that still 0:17:07.760 --> 0:17:11.159 has to be such a sickening, unthinkable experience for a 0:17:11.280 --> 0:17:13.520 husband to hear his wife describe. 0:17:13.640 --> 0:17:18.440 And I to listen to her now, and there were 0:17:18.440 --> 0:17:22.520 so many pictures of her, and I think a lot 0:17:22.560 --> 0:17:25.200 of the coverage we have seen her on the red 0:17:25.240 --> 0:17:28.080 carpet at the met We have seen so many different 0:17:28.080 --> 0:17:30.680 images of her standing next to him, and I don't 0:17:30.720 --> 0:17:32.840 know their stars and they're supposed to be sexy sometimes 0:17:32.920 --> 0:17:36.840 and all this. But then I looked earlier at some 0:17:37.040 --> 0:17:39.080 pictures of her, when she first was coming out of 0:17:39.080 --> 0:17:42.000 first becoming a star. There was a youth and energy, 0:17:42.040 --> 0:17:44.840 a life to her eyes. This is me editorializing now, 0:17:45.040 --> 0:17:47.639 but there was a different look and a youth and 0:17:47.680 --> 0:17:51.080 an excitement, and there was something in her early on 0:17:51.160 --> 0:17:54.800 that it made me look and made me think about Adelise, like, wow, nineteen, Yeah, 0:17:54.800 --> 0:17:55.600 she's a kid. 0:17:55.800 --> 0:17:56.480 She's a kid. 0:17:56.600 --> 0:17:57.520 She's a kid. 0:17:57.840 --> 0:18:01.360 Yeah. And he was thirty six, eventeen years older than her. 0:18:01.359 --> 0:18:03.679 And we talk about age differences sometimes, but you know, 0:18:03.720 --> 0:18:05.840 it's one of those points when you're a certain age, 0:18:06.160 --> 0:18:08.520 it isn't I hate to say a fair fight, but 0:18:08.800 --> 0:18:12.440 you just don't have the ability to handle yourself in 0:18:12.480 --> 0:18:16.080 a reciprocal way when you're that age, when you're under 0:18:16.640 --> 0:18:19.400 twenty one even or in your early twenties, versus someone 0:18:19.400 --> 0:18:21.119 who has lived a lot more life and has a 0:18:21.119 --> 0:18:22.040 lot more power than you. 0:18:22.280 --> 0:18:24.000 Okay, there it is. There is an age difference and 0:18:24.119 --> 0:18:27.159 experienced difference, but there's a power imbalance the likes of 0:18:27.200 --> 0:18:29.440 which you can't even get bigger than this one. No 0:18:30.040 --> 0:18:32.280 starving artists trying to struggle in the business with a 0:18:32.320 --> 0:18:36.480 guy who can make you a star in an instant. 0:18:36.200 --> 0:18:38.080 And has a staff around him. This is a big 0:18:38.119 --> 0:18:42.680 part of the prosecution's case. A staff almost an empire 0:18:42.720 --> 0:18:46.479 around him, doing his bidding, whatever he wants, whatever he needs, 0:18:46.920 --> 0:18:48.040 whenever he wants it. 0:18:48.200 --> 0:18:51.040 So I did. I looked some other pictures of her, 0:18:51.160 --> 0:18:55.120 some younger pictures. In my goodness, Ugh, what are twenty 0:18:55.200 --> 0:18:57.159 years it has been for this young lady. And this 0:18:57.280 --> 0:18:59.680 was again day three. She's back on the stand cross 0:18:59.680 --> 0:19:02.320 examine nation from the defense. You know, that's probably going 0:19:02.400 --> 0:19:06.200 to be pretty intense in that courtroom. But the first 0:19:06.200 --> 0:19:08.919 couple of witnesses on the stand that were there for 0:19:09.720 --> 0:19:15.360 testimony yesterday and the day before, where two folks, one 0:19:15.400 --> 0:19:18.040 was a LA police officer who was the one who 0:19:18.119 --> 0:19:21.119 responded to that hotel incident, and the other ropes was 0:19:21.160 --> 0:19:23.840 a male escort by the name of Daniel Phillip, and 0:19:24.000 --> 0:19:27.119 everything they reported pretty much backed up, excuse me, everything 0:19:27.160 --> 0:19:29.400 they testified to backed up the testimony of. 0:19:29.640 --> 0:19:33.680 Correct absolutely Daniel Phillip, who is who is a manager 0:19:33.720 --> 0:19:37.200 of male strippers but also became a male escort and 0:19:37.520 --> 0:19:45.320 was the one initially who both Daniel and ventur acclaim 0:19:45.440 --> 0:19:49.480 did he had them perform sexual acts together while he watched. 0:19:49.680 --> 0:19:53.240 He said he saw violence, he said he saw anger. 0:19:53.359 --> 0:19:57.720 He said he saw a lot of that physical violence 0:19:57.760 --> 0:20:00.920 that ventur was talking about. He witnessed it personersonally. So 0:20:01.000 --> 0:20:04.080 he certainly corroborated what we've now been hearing from Ventura. 0:20:04.440 --> 0:20:08.440 Well, she will be back on the stands again, you 0:20:08.640 --> 0:20:10.280 see and no cameras in there, but some of you 0:20:10.280 --> 0:20:13.280 have seen an unknown robes. You've pointed them out every 0:20:13.359 --> 0:20:15.119 chance you can to me, and look, we've covered a 0:20:15.119 --> 0:20:17.119 whole bunch of trials. And when there's not a camera 0:20:17.160 --> 0:20:20.159 in the courtroom, you have very important. The courtroom artist 0:20:20.480 --> 0:20:24.760 becomes very very important. And I saw one of the drawings, like, 0:20:24.800 --> 0:20:27.280 what in the world is that? It showed an image 0:20:27.320 --> 0:20:30.280 of did he you know those crude courtroom drawings, but 0:20:30.320 --> 0:20:32.440 he was making the heart sign at his chest. I'm like, 0:20:32.480 --> 0:20:35.160