1 00:00:04,040 --> 00:00:07,440 Speaker 1: Welcome to the official podcast, Eric Allen inside the studio. 2 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 1: All here at one Jets Drive and making an annual 3 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 1: visit to the Jets is NFL Networks. Judy Batista, great 4 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:18,760 Speaker 1: to see you. Good to be back, really good. What 5 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 1: is your itinerary in terms of the summer. I just 6 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 1: got back from Latrobe, Pennsylvania with the Pittsburgh Steelers a 7 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 1: few days there. I'm here for a few days and 8 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 1: then I am going to Tampa to see old friend 9 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 1: Todd Bowls, and then I'll be back and going to 10 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 1: the Giants and then probably just doing you know, the 11 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:40,280 Speaker 1: sort of Northeast. I'll hit the Patriots for a day. 12 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 1: I'll hit the Eagles for a day, just see some 13 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 1: people and get ready and before you know it, the 14 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 1: season starts. And you brought your daughter. My daughter Grace 15 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 1: is back there. Yeah, so she's getting the firsthand account 16 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 1: of exactly what mom goes through exactly. Um, so be 17 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 1: nice to be gentle on podcast. Um. But yeah, you know, 18 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 1: she gets to watch practice up close like we do. 19 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 1: It's like, you know, that's cool. All right, So you 20 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 1: said it's cool. What do you take from early in camp? 21 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:11,960 Speaker 1: What are you looking for when you're watching the guys 22 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 1: on the field, and maybe even more importantly, he talked 23 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 1: to a few folks after practice. Well, look, I mean 24 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 1: in this case, in the Jets case, we're all looking 25 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 1: at Zach right and how he looks, and that's what 26 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:29,320 Speaker 1: everybody is talking about. I talked to Robert sala Uh 27 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 1: today after practice and I said, you know, how do 28 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 1: you why do you think he's ready to make the 29 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 1: step in in year two? And he said, you know, 30 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 1: we're because we're around him every day and like we 31 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 1: hear the questions he asked, and we see his body 32 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 1: language and his confidence level. One thing that really struck 33 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 1: me was when Zach told reporters yesterday that he feels 34 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 1: like he can identify when he has made a mistake now, 35 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 1: like he knows when he makes mistakes and he knows 36 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 1: how to fix them. And Salo was saying, you know, 37 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 1: those are the special ones, the ones who in game 38 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 1: know when they've done something wrong, and before they even 39 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 1: get to the sideline, they know how to fix it. 40 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 1: They don't even need a coach to tell them. They 41 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 1: can fix it themselves. And he said, those are the 42 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 1: special ones, and this guy's got the ability to do that. 43 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:18,359 Speaker 1: So there's a ton of optimism, you know, we did. 44 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 1: We were on Good Morning Football this morning talking about 45 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:22,920 Speaker 1: the Jets, and I've been around the team a long time, 46 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:26,240 Speaker 1: and like there's there's real optimism that the team is 47 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 1: ready to take a step forward. Here what does the 48 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:32,079 Speaker 1: folks say on a Good Morning Football? Whereas everybody's head 49 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 1: space in terms of what they actually can be, because 50 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 1: I think universally everybody's looking at the roster said they're 51 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 1: definitely more talented. But now it's taking that step from hey, 52 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 1: a four and thirteen team to a team that is 53 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 1: going to be in competition or they're going to be 54 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:55,119 Speaker 1: right there late in games. But how do you take 55 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 1: that next step and learn how to win? I think 56 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:01,119 Speaker 1: that is the big question is I don't think there's 57 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:03,080 Speaker 1: any way you look at the roster and don't think 58 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 1: that it is vastly improved from what it was two 59 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 1: years ago. Um, I mean it's almost a completely different team. 60 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 1: And I think everybody is sort of especially excited about 61 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:18,640 Speaker 1: this young nucleus of talent, particularly on the offensive side, 62 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 1: because you think they can sort of come up together 63 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 1: and develop together. But you're right, I mean you have 64 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 1: to then you have you have to do it. I mean, 65 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 1: at some point you have to do it on the field, 66 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 1: and it can't just be about promise and expectations. You've 67 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:33,640 Speaker 1: got to produce on the fields. And we'll see. I 68 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 1: think we've talked about this before. I mean that the 69 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 1: start of the schedule is tough, really tough start to 70 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 1: the season. But if they can, you know, make their 71 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 1: way through that, the back half of the schedule is manageable. 72 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 1: And so if they're playing meaningful games, you know, going 73 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 1: into December, I mean, that's about all you can hope 74 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 1: for in the NFL. They certainly should be, don't you 75 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 1: think so? I do. I think they are much better team, 76 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 1: and I think you know that the defense should be 77 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 1: much improved. Um And and I think if they can 78 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 1: stay in games, they if you have a confident quarterback 79 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 1: who you know, knows what he's doing a little bit 80 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 1: better than I, then you can pick off some wins 81 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 1: that way. And um, I go back to how he 82 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:16,719 Speaker 1: how Zach was after he came back from the injury 83 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:19,839 Speaker 1: last year, because to me, that felt like two separate seasons. 84 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 1: Right there was early season Zac where I am sure 85 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 1: his head was spinning. I can't even imagine what it's 86 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:26,920 Speaker 1: like to be a rookie quarterback starting in the NFL. 87 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 1: But then when he sat for those four weeks, I 88 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 1: don't know if like it just slowed down for him 89 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 1: or if he was able to sort of step back 90 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 1: and see how, you know, see how things worked a 91 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:39,920 Speaker 1: little bit more clearly. But he was a different quarterback 92 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:42,480 Speaker 1: and he seemed more settled. He certainly seemed to be 93 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 1: more in command. Right five touchdown passes, three running touchdowns, 94 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 1: only one interception. I mean, if that's where he's picking 95 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 1: up from, that's a pretty good place to be starting from. 96 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 1: Do you think nationally he's going onto the radar, Not 97 00:04:56,200 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 1: from an expectation perspective, just from a perspective at here's 98 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 1: a kid who's in New York, who's drafted number two 99 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 1: overall entering year two, and there's so many great quarterbacks 100 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 1: in the National Football League. We know that, so we're 101 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 1: going to talk about that. But it feels like everybody says, yeah, 102 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 1: the Jets have gotten better and there's a system familiarity. 103 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:21,840 Speaker 1: They did damage in free agency. They brought in guys 104 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:26,840 Speaker 1: who had that combination of their veterans, but they've also won. 105 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 1: And then you go and ace the draft. On paper, 106 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 1: everybody says the Jets did a great job in the draft, 107 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 1: just feels like nobody's talking about Wilson, which might be 108 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:42,479 Speaker 1: a good thing. Well, I think it's a good thing period. 109 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:45,159 Speaker 1: I don't have any doubt. It's better to fly under 110 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:47,480 Speaker 1: the radar. I mean, look at some of the more 111 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 1: high profile quarterbacks who are maybe having not such great 112 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 1: storylines develop around them right now. You don't want to 113 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 1: be those guys either. Um. I do think that the draft, 114 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 1: the Jets did a great job, and I think that 115 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 1: got a lot of national attention. I mean I think 116 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 1: that really people sort of sat up and said, Okay, 117 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 1: I mean this is a much better roster um. And 118 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 1: I think that now it's just wait and see, right, 119 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 1: wait and see until the game's beginning. What does that 120 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:16,600 Speaker 1: look like? Does the offensive line come together the way 121 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:19,840 Speaker 1: you needed to come together? Does he develop a chemistry 122 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:21,919 Speaker 1: with Garrett Wilson right away? You know, they're just the 123 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:25,040 Speaker 1: things that you need to see in an offense to develop. 124 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 1: I do think he's under the radar, especially because it 125 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 1: was such a bunker's offseason for the a f C, 126 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:34,160 Speaker 1: so much talent moved into the a f C. I mean, 127 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson, did you know right? Tyreek Hill is in Miami, 128 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 1: so everybody's talking about too. There was so much going 129 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 1: on in the f C that I do think they're 130 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 1: a little bit under the radar. But I think that's okay. 131 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:47,159 Speaker 1: You know, where are you in terms of second year quarterbacks. 132 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:51,040 Speaker 1: We saw Mac Jones experienced success in New England. Some 133 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:54,159 Speaker 1: people have a projection that he's kind of at his 134 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:57,039 Speaker 1: ceiling where he's a finished product. I don't know. I'm 135 00:06:57,040 --> 00:07:00,600 Speaker 1: not saying that's me. Trevor Lawrence. I mean that was 136 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 1: a picture of instability last year in Jacksonville. I don't 137 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 1: even know how you can evaluate him. And then justin 138 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 1: fields paper, Chicago could be in for a lot of 139 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 1: growing pains again this year. Yeah, well, Trevor Lawrence, I agree, 140 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 1: I don't. I mean it's almost to me like Trevor 141 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 1: Lawrence is a rookie quarterback again this year. I mean 142 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 1: they're starting over. He's got all the ability in the 143 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 1: world and now he'll finally have some stable, real professional coaching, 144 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 1: and I think he'll I think he'll look much better 145 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 1: than he looked last year. Um, I don't know if 146 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 1: Mac Jones is a fish product. I kind of doubt it. Um, 147 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 1: I think he is a smart everything I talked to 148 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 1: about people as he is a really smart grinder. Belichick 149 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 1: loves him. I mean, you don't hear Belichick rave about 150 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 1: players in public too often, and he did it this week. 151 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 1: It was he didn't even talk like talk to somebody 152 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 1: who said that, who said, you know, he definitely does 153 00:07:57,040 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 1: love Mac Jones. That's that's legitimate. He also thought that 154 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 1: the praise might have been, you know, to sort of 155 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 1: needle Brady a little bit, because he never talked about 156 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 1: Tom Brady. Um. I don't know. Do you think Bill 157 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 1: Belichick has ulterior motives? I don't know, but I do 158 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 1: think he. I do think he legitimately thinks Mac Jones 159 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 1: is the real deal. Um uh, you know, And I 160 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 1: don't know about Justin Fields. I agree the Bears could 161 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 1: be in for a long one this year, but I 162 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 1: certainly think Zach is well positioned. They have done more 163 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 1: to help Zack Wilson than any other second year quarterback 164 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:37,560 Speaker 1: has had. Let's put it that way. Could you make 165 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 1: the argument that the Jets have the best second best 166 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 1: talent roster to the bottom in the East behind the 167 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 1: Bills certainly. I mean, the Bills are a super Bowl 168 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:55,559 Speaker 1: caliber team, so that's a different conversation. But yes, I mean, frankly, 169 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:58,199 Speaker 1: the Patriots I think had a confusing offseason. Like I'm 170 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 1: not quite sure what to make of the office, and 171 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 1: I think we sort of chalk it up to all right, Belichick. Yea, 172 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 1: Belichick knows what he's doing and he'll make something of 173 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 1: this and it'll be fine. And that may be so, 174 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:11,079 Speaker 1: but like there was some you know, I I thought 175 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:13,199 Speaker 1: like they needed to do more to get fast on defense. 176 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:15,440 Speaker 1: They were sort of exposed at the end of the year. 177 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 1: And I'm not sure they did that. Did they put 178 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 1: enough pieces around back to to help him. I don't know, um, 179 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:23,680 Speaker 1: but I do think the Jets, I mean, the Jets 180 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 1: have overhauled the roster in the last few years. The 181 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 1: Jets have a lot of talent on paper, and now 182 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 1: it's just a question of getting it, you know, getting 183 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 1: it together and how fast can it come together. And 184 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:36,840 Speaker 1: I will say this, Alijah More mentioned today about the 185 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 1: Idaho trip, the famed Idaho trip, and he thought that 186 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:41,839 Speaker 1: was great, not just for the Yeah, they threw the 187 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 1: football around him, that's all. Well, and good, but the 188 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 1: bonding and the chemistry like that went a long way, 189 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 1: So that's important. So you're buying into the culture here 190 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 1: because and you you have talked to Roberts Alan numerous taps. Yeah, 191 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:59,679 Speaker 1: I definitely buy into the culture that, Like, I love 192 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:02,559 Speaker 1: that's Illa showed up wearing Positive Vibes only shirt because 193 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 1: I and I was talking to see Jasama who's brand 194 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 1: new and basically like, don't come to him with the 195 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 1: same old Jets thing. He is not interested. He said, like, 196 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 1: every year is a new year. And he came from 197 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:17,200 Speaker 1: a team that had a similar experience, right that hit 198 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 1: hit rock bottom and then came all the way up 199 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 1: in the case of the Bengals, came up really fast, 200 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 1: and he said like, well, every year is a new year. 201 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 1: Like he does not want to hear the same ould Jets. 202 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:29,199 Speaker 1: If he doesn't care what happened in the past, he 203 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 1: doesn't care how many years it's been. Like, you've got 204 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 1: a young quarterback now, and if you don't have one 205 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 1: of those, we know how bad it is. You do 206 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 1: have one of those now, the question is how good 207 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:40,680 Speaker 1: can it be. It's been eleven years since the Jets 208 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:43,960 Speaker 1: made the playoffs. That's talked about all the time. You 209 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 1: just came from Latrobe. What's it like in Pittsburgh going 210 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:53,960 Speaker 1: to a camp where they not only expect winning, but 211 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:58,440 Speaker 1: they expect winning at an elite level. Mike Tomlin has 212 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 1: been what I head coach for sixteen plus years and 213 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 1: never had a losing season season. So, but it's the 214 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 1: flip side because there you get asked, like why don't 215 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 1: we go further in the playoffs more? I mean, like 216 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:13,559 Speaker 1: the expectations are at a completely different level, right. I Mean, 217 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 1: this is like why aren't you Chuck Nole and winning 218 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 1: four Super Bowls and six years? Um? So the expectations 219 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 1: are entirely different, but they are you know, the Steelers 220 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 1: are like the model of consistency franchise, right. I mean 221 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:27,080 Speaker 1: they have their method of how they do it and 222 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:30,320 Speaker 1: they're going to do it um and it works more 223 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 1: often than not. I Mean, the one thing Mike Tomlin 224 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:35,720 Speaker 1: always says is the standard is the standard. The standard 225 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:37,959 Speaker 1: there is, like you make the playoffs. I think that's 226 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 1: just you know, they better make the playoffs and the 227 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 1: fact that they're in a transition year with you know, 228 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 1: with the Hall of Fame quarterback just retired and now 229 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 1: you've got to you've got a full on quarterback competition 230 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:51,720 Speaker 1: and training camp whatever. You're making the playoffs, right, you know, 231 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 1: there's no time to take a dip and come back up. 232 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:58,319 Speaker 1: They're different people, completely different people, but the see similarities 233 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 1: in tom One and Sell. Maybe the way they approach players. Yeah, 234 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:06,840 Speaker 1: I think they're both straightforward. There's no um. You know, 235 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:10,079 Speaker 1: there's no bs about them. They are straightforward. They love 236 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:14,560 Speaker 1: players obviously, they love ball um. But they deal with 237 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 1: people like their adults, right like they don't They don't um. 238 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 1: They don't belittle them. They treat them with respect, but 239 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 1: they you know, they treat people like adults like these 240 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:27,200 Speaker 1: are the expectations. This is your job. Go do your drop. 241 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:31,080 Speaker 1: Getting back to the division a little bit. We know 242 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:33,560 Speaker 1: the Jets are honorary members of the f C North. 243 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 1: To start the season, okay, because the Baltimore Ravens are 244 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 1: coming here in week one. The Jets will go and 245 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 1: face the Cleveland Browns a week two, then Cincinnati Bengals 246 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 1: come here and we three and then finally they go 247 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:48,720 Speaker 1: see they four mentioned Pittsburgh Steelers in week four. But 248 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 1: how critical is it for the Jets to make inroads 249 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 1: in the division. We talk about the talent. There isn't 250 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:59,680 Speaker 1: that discrepancy between them, the Patriots and the Dolphins no longer, 251 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 1: no at or what you think about those teams. But 252 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:05,440 Speaker 1: still the Jets did not win a division game last year. Yeah, 253 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 1: they got to win division games. I mean, you've got 254 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 1: to win games, and you've got to win division games, 255 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 1: and I do think those games are winnable. You know, 256 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:15,560 Speaker 1: I'm not saying you've got to go to Buffalo and 257 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:18,960 Speaker 1: beat the Bills. That's a tough assignment for anybody. But 258 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:23,720 Speaker 1: you know you've gotta you can beat the Miami Dolphins. Right, 259 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 1: we don't know what they are. Like, we spent a 260 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:27,560 Speaker 1: lot of the offseason talking about Tyreek Hill and a 261 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:30,559 Speaker 1: new coach and this is to h and he's finally 262 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 1: got some weapons. Okay, but they're it's sort of the 263 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 1: same thing, Like they've got to come together. Can they 264 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 1: do it? On paper? They're better? Are they really better? Though? 265 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 1: We don't know. You should be able to beat the 266 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:42,679 Speaker 1: Miami Dolphins, and you should be able to beat the 267 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 1: New England Patriots, Like you have to do these these 268 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:48,560 Speaker 1: are the steps you have to take, right You have 269 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:50,720 Speaker 1: to take those steps, Yes, they should be able to 270 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:53,720 Speaker 1: do it. M Tyreek Hill, and know people get mad 271 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:57,079 Speaker 1: at me talking about him or bringing up his name again, 272 00:13:57,520 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 1: I just wanted to ask you to think it could 273 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 1: all to ultimately be a blessing in disguise that Jets 274 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 1: actually didn't get Tyreek Kill just where the roster is 275 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 1: right now. Not not that you wouldn't want to Tyreek 276 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 1: Hill on your roster, but but in terms of what 277 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 1: you would have had to give up in that pay right. Interestingly, 278 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:18,720 Speaker 1: when I talked to Salah earlier, he made the point 279 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 1: that teams that grow together, uh usually do better than 280 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 1: that than teams that are put together, meaning teams that 281 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 1: you draft together and that come up together generally stay 282 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 1: together and are more successful than teams that you put 283 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 1: together in free agency. UM, I think given what you 284 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 1: would have had to give up to get a Tyreek Hill, 285 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 1: you probably got. You know, you've got more by using 286 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 1: those draft picks because they had such a good draft. Um. 287 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 1: You know, you would like a Tyreek Hill talent, but 288 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 1: you know you've also got to manage a Tyreek Hill 289 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:55,920 Speaker 1: kind of talent. And that's tough for a young quarterback 290 00:14:56,040 --> 00:15:00,080 Speaker 1: because that's um, you know, because everyone your throw is, 291 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 1: everyone in your long throwers and training camp is going 292 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 1: to be put out there on Twitter, Instagram and rails, 293 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 1: and everybody's gonna be saying, well, you under threw him 294 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 1: there exactly. I mean the pressure on I mean, look 295 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 1: to it has pressure on him anyway, and would have 296 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 1: even if Tyreek Kill wasn't there. But the pressure on 297 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 1: to A to perform this year is going to be immense. 298 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 1: I mean, this is his make or break here. It's 299 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 1: gonna be fun watching Mike McDaniel too, because I and 300 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 1: Mike la fleur up here in the seat you're at 301 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 1: right now, and he loves them, swears by him, Soda 302 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 1: Salah and obviously that guy he's a head coach for 303 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 1: a reason, but just an interesting situation that he's walking into. 304 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 1: He's like a fascinating guy. First of all, he's like 305 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 1: sort of quirky and funny, like in a way that 306 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 1: you don't usually see NFL coaches. B He's also got 307 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 1: the running game background, which I think is going to 308 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:52,120 Speaker 1: be really interesting, and they signed like a zillion running 309 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 1: match this offseason, so I'm sort of interested to see 310 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 1: how that comes together. He's got a lot on his hands. 311 00:15:57,600 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 1: There's there's a lot of talent on that roster. Managing 312 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 1: that as a rookie head coach is going to be 313 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 1: an interesting exercise. I think for him, one thing I 314 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 1: will say that to his credit is he he has 315 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 1: gotten fully behind, to which I don't think is something 316 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 1: that was the case before. I don't think Brian Flores 317 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:19,240 Speaker 1: had ever really embraced to as the quarterback, and certainly 318 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 1: publicly he didn't um And I do think Mike has, 319 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 1: you know, has really thrown his support behind him, and 320 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 1: not just in football terms, but in like showing it 321 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 1: up at his charity events like that goes a long 322 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 1: way to sort of bolstering the confidence of a young quarterback. 323 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 1: But I'm interested to see what he does with it 324 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 1: and what he does with that offense. We talked about Zach, 325 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 1: we talked about culture. Let's go to the frontive side 326 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 1: of the ball. Sauce Gardner. You were in New York 327 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 1: when Derel Rivas was added his peak, sauce Gardner. I 328 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 1: don't want to put expectations on him, but he kind 329 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 1: of has that it that you wanted that position, doesn't he? 330 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 1: And how do you think he's going to fit into 331 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 1: this market. Well, first, he's got a swagger that you 332 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 1: want there, right, and I think he'll fit into this 333 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 1: market fantastically. He's also I think everybody is looking at 334 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:13,359 Speaker 1: him the way we looked at Darrell, which was, okay, 335 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:15,440 Speaker 1: you just go, you take that half of the field 336 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 1: and we don't have to think about that half of 337 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 1: the field again for the rest of the day. That's 338 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 1: an incredible luxury to have. And look, I mean this 339 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 1: defense obviously needs. Speaking of taking steps, I mean it 340 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 1: needs to take a big step up. I think the 341 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 1: combination of having Sauce Gardener be able to just take 342 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:37,159 Speaker 1: this over here, um, and maybe finally having a coherent 343 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 1: pass rush pass rushers with Carl Lawson hopefully knock on 344 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:45,920 Speaker 1: Wood healthy um and Jermaine Johnson, you know, be able 345 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:49,439 Speaker 1: to get to the quarterback and get some sacks. You know, 346 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 1: I think the defense can be vastly improved. I mean, 347 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:53,200 Speaker 1: you've got to be able to get to the quarterback. 348 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 1: You've got to be able to get to Josh Allen. 349 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:57,880 Speaker 1: You know, that's a tough, tough boy to bring down. 350 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 1: He's a big guy. Um. But you you know, you've 351 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:03,159 Speaker 1: got to be able to affect the quarterback and they 352 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 1: haven't been able to do that. When I looked it 353 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:10,119 Speaker 1: up and it was seven seasons with fewer than forty sacks, 354 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 1: that's ridiculous. I mean, you just can't function like that 355 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 1: in the NFL. You've got to be able to affect 356 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 1: the quarterback. And so I think the combination of having 357 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:21,680 Speaker 1: the rush and then having a Sauce Gardener back there too, 358 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:24,880 Speaker 1: lockdown part of the fields. There should be a big 359 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 1: improvement on the defense. This team can stop the ron 360 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 1: on a regular basis. This defense is a chance to 361 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:35,920 Speaker 1: be very good, very good because they do have the 362 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:39,920 Speaker 1: pass rushers. You talk about loss and you mentioned Jermaine Johnson. 363 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:44,160 Speaker 1: They drafted Michael Clemens in the fourth round, Vinny Curry returns, 364 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:47,160 Speaker 1: he signed Jacob Martin and free agency. But in the 365 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 1: middle guys are going to benefit from that. And the 366 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 1: number one guy I think of as Quinn and Williams. 367 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:56,399 Speaker 1: And the second guy I think of is somebody who 368 00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:58,800 Speaker 1: actually talked to the media today is John Franklin Myers. 369 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 1: Because yes, you can lie him off outside, but then 370 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 1: you can shift them inside on passing downs. I think 371 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 1: the Jets really could be a terror if you get 372 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:11,919 Speaker 1: teams into third and five plus right right, if you 373 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 1: can get them into long yardage, then they can tee off. 374 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:18,959 Speaker 1: I go back to the combine or I remember Roberts 375 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 1: saying something people don't think of, but one way you 376 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:27,440 Speaker 1: can help a young quarterback is to have a good 377 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 1: defense so that he doesn't wake up every Sunday morning 378 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:32,440 Speaker 1: knowing he's going to have to dig the team out 379 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 1: of a two touchdown a hole. And that was the 380 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 1: case too often last year, right where like before you 381 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 1: know it, you were down a touchdown or two and 382 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 1: now Zach Wilson has to climb out. You're not gonna 383 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:44,399 Speaker 1: win many games like that. But it's also like a 384 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 1: terrible mental burden to put on a young quarterback. And 385 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:51,200 Speaker 1: so his feeling was we gotta keep games close and 386 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:53,680 Speaker 1: be able to affect the game on the defensive side 387 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 1: of the ball so that it's not all on your 388 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 1: young quarterback and your young offense. And so they've certainly 389 00:19:59,840 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 1: got and better talent wise. If that comes together, um, 390 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:05,680 Speaker 1: I thought will be a huge help to the offense. 391 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:09,879 Speaker 1: You talked about the schedule before, what does this team 392 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:13,159 Speaker 1: have to be you around after nine games where on 393 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:17,440 Speaker 1: paper it softens it up post By when you talk 394 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 1: about Baltimore coming to town. I went through the n 395 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 1: f C North and then I believe the Jets host 396 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 1: to Miami Dolphins before a fascinated two game road swing 397 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 1: where you're going to Green Bay and then Denver and 398 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:32,160 Speaker 1: you're coming back, and I think New England's on the schedule. 399 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 1: Buffaloes in the mix there as well. So you can 400 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 1: make an argument the Jets first eight or nine games 401 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:45,120 Speaker 1: um awfully difficult, one of the most difficult early season schedules. 402 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:47,919 Speaker 1: But with that being said, how much patience do you 403 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 1: gotta have? Oh, you've got to have patience. I mean, listen, 404 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 1: you can't do anything if you're going to keep turning 405 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 1: over coaches and gms and you know, quarterbacks, you can. 406 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:04,439 Speaker 1: You got to give them a long leash to develop. You' again, 407 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:06,679 Speaker 1: you've turned over a lot of the roster. Now you 408 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:10,240 Speaker 1: have to let those guys play together and come together. 409 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:12,480 Speaker 1: You've got to have a lot of patients. I mean, 410 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:17,600 Speaker 1: you know, every year can't be a Super Bowl year. 411 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:20,480 Speaker 1: You've got to build towards a Super Bowl. You just 412 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 1: enacted almost a complete tear down. Well now you're building up, 413 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:27,640 Speaker 1: and that's fine, But it's the build up, right, I mean, 414 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 1: you don't want to tear it all down again. You've 415 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:33,399 Speaker 1: got to let it build. Um. That's one of the 416 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:35,639 Speaker 1: things that we were just talking about the Steelers. Like 417 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 1: teams like that, don't you don't say, like, after two 418 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:41,639 Speaker 1: years this isn't working, rip it up, let's start over again. 419 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:44,680 Speaker 1: You just can't do that over and over again. Um. 420 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:46,960 Speaker 1: We've seen the Giants do it over and over again 421 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 1: and they know you can't do it. Um, you gotta 422 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 1: be patient. It's gonna be it should be a fun 423 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:59,920 Speaker 1: team to watch. We talk about talent increases across the board, offense, defense, 424 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:04,400 Speaker 1: special teams, um. And then just thinking about MetLife Stadium, 425 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:08,320 Speaker 1: you know, September eleven, Baltimore coming to town. I just 426 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:11,359 Speaker 1: feel like this is a young for a young team 427 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 1: that could really feed off the energy of this fan 428 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 1: base that is so hungry right now. You know. I 429 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:19,760 Speaker 1: I'm not saying they're going to make a run to 430 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 1: the super Bowl the way the Cincinnati Bengals, dude, but 431 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:24,359 Speaker 1: like I look at what the Cincinnati Bengals did, right, 432 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 1: and I mean there are never expectations for the Cincinnati 433 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:31,920 Speaker 1: Bengals right now. Joe Burrow is a very great quarterback. 434 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 1: But they didn't start last season with everybody in Cincinnati 435 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 1: thinking super Bowl bound. But it built, and especially as 436 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:42,960 Speaker 1: the games went on at Borrow got healthier and got stronger, 437 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 1: and they were feeding off the energy of I remember 438 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:49,520 Speaker 1: talking to C Jama when he was on the Bengals 439 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 1: a year ago and him talking about what it was 440 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 1: like in town and like he'd be out walking and 441 00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 1: like the neighbors would be beep in the horn. You 442 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 1: don't go back, you know, Like they fed on that, 443 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:04,239 Speaker 1: and that was a fan base like Jets fans, you know, 444 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:07,960 Speaker 1: that are desperate for success, so excited to have success, 445 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 1: and they fed off it. There's no question about it. 446 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:14,399 Speaker 1: It's it's great when it happens, but you got to 447 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 1: give it time, right, I Mean, the Bengals fans went 448 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:19,479 Speaker 1: through a lot of tough years too, and but they 449 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 1: got the payoff. What will this region, what will New 450 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 1: York be like if this team does turn into a winner, 451 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 1: if this team is playing competitive games late in the year, Well, 452 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:33,439 Speaker 1: I mean you and I remember when like the Jets 453 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:37,080 Speaker 1: went to the playoffs, um in the her Medwords years 454 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 1: and then the Rex Ryan years, and and and even 455 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:42,400 Speaker 1: when they were playing meaningful games late and when Todd 456 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 1: Bowles was here, Um, people get excited, you know, like 457 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 1: people love a winner in this area. Um. And look, 458 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 1: it's been not just talking about football, baseball, basketball, Like 459 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 1: look at how people got into the Rangers run to 460 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:00,240 Speaker 1: the Stanley Cup finals because it had been so long 461 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 1: since the New York team had been on a deep 462 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 1: postseason run. You know, if if, if the Jets get 463 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:10,480 Speaker 1: going and and are playing meaningful games into December, there 464 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:13,880 Speaker 1: will be real excitement around them. I think fans got 465 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 1: legit love for Joe Douglas and robertson question. Yeah, I 466 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:20,000 Speaker 1: think Joe d is a badass, and I think he's 467 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 1: a good talent evaluator. They like the way he carries himself. 468 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:26,360 Speaker 1: Same thing with Sala you're talking about about his guy 469 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:30,159 Speaker 1: in his early forties is less than time percent body fat, 470 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 1: is still throwing a weight around, running the steps all 471 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 1: over the place, in great shape, but always positive and 472 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 1: while he's kind of soft spoken one on one on 473 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 1: that sideline right, super intense. I actually think the positivity 474 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:51,919 Speaker 1: is a great way to go, Like, I like, we 475 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 1: can all get down right. You look at the stats 476 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:57,120 Speaker 1: and they're like, yeah, that team stinks that kind of thing. 477 00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 1: But like I think like this sort of only positive 478 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 1: vibes thing is is a good thing and a good 479 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 1: message for him because it's a long season and like things, 480 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 1: you're gonna have bad days. There's no question players are 481 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:14,680 Speaker 1: gonna get hurt, You're gonna lose games you probably shouldn't lose. 482 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 1: But I think him trying to keep everybody up and 483 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:23,520 Speaker 1: saying like, hey, we're building, we're moving forward. That's that's 484 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 1: what you got to remind people of, like you just 485 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:29,200 Speaker 1: keep moving forward. Perfect example of that as McKay Beckton. 486 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:34,320 Speaker 1: You asked Sala about him during the news conference. Obviously 487 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:36,720 Speaker 1: this year it's gonna be George Fannett left tackle. He 488 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:40,240 Speaker 1: played really while there last year, a career year. He 489 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:42,920 Speaker 1: wanted to be the left tackle. He is indeed gonna 490 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:45,960 Speaker 1: be lining up there back then. Just getting his feet 491 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:48,960 Speaker 1: underneath them right now because he basically hasn't practiced in 492 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 1: a year. But it's Alla seems pretty positive when you asked, Yeah, 493 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:54,879 Speaker 1: the reason I asked him the question was because during 494 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:58,879 Speaker 1: the individual work sometimes Beckton would be on a knee 495 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:01,120 Speaker 1: and I thought, like it's a conditioning, Like what's going 496 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 1: on there, and that's why I asked, and they were talking. 497 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:07,240 Speaker 1: Salah and Beckton were talking as they came off the field, 498 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 1: and what Salah said in the answer to the question was, 499 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 1: you know, he had a good day. And what I 500 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:15,960 Speaker 1: was talking to him about was, you know, he's getting stronger. 501 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:19,640 Speaker 1: He's got to keep pushing himself to the brink of exhaustion, 502 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 1: because that's how you get stronger physically, right, Like you've 503 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:23,840 Speaker 1: got to you know, you've got to put everything into 504 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:27,879 Speaker 1: it um and and obviously that's what you wanted to do. 505 00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:30,480 Speaker 1: It's been a long time since he practiced football. He 506 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:32,320 Speaker 1: obviously had the way issues and now the weight is 507 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:35,240 Speaker 1: off and he's got to build his strength up again 508 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 1: his football. You know, he's obviously in shape like by 509 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:41,639 Speaker 1: any normal human being standards, but like football shape is 510 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:45,560 Speaker 1: not normal any standard. He's got to get into that 511 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:48,200 Speaker 1: kind of shape. And I thought that was an interesting comment, 512 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:49,960 Speaker 1: Like you've got to push yourself to the brink of 513 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:52,200 Speaker 1: exhaustion because that's how you're going to get stronger, that's 514 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:55,399 Speaker 1: how you get ready. And I think approaches it that 515 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:59,359 Speaker 1: way himself. Off the field, by the way, really not 516 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:01,960 Speaker 1: a surprise, right, not a surprise. I'm kind of frightened 517 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,240 Speaker 1: because I am a Peloton girl, Like I don't even 518 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:07,440 Speaker 1: want to imagine what his output is on those rights. 519 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 1: You know, he's he's always taking it to the break, 520 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:14,720 Speaker 1: there's no doubt about imagine. But backed in again, it's 521 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:17,240 Speaker 1: a process for him and the team was really encouraged 522 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 1: by what happened after mandatory minicamp, where he stayed here, 523 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:24,879 Speaker 1: he worked with the team trainers and doctors and the 524 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 1: nutritionis and minus one minus a week where July four 525 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:36,360 Speaker 1: he went away. He's been here. He does look better, right, 526 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 1: he looks better. Clearly, he showed the commitment that he 527 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:41,880 Speaker 1: got his body back together and now he's just got 528 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 1: to get back into you know, into playing condition. I 529 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:48,600 Speaker 1: thought the decision early on to say he's the right tackle, 530 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 1: so that you're not going back and forth. This is 531 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 1: the offensive line. It's set. First of all, I thought 532 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 1: that was almost as much about Fant being comfortable at 533 00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:01,959 Speaker 1: left tackle as it is about you know, Beckton's performance. 534 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:05,639 Speaker 1: But I think that that was important for Zach Wilson too, 535 00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:08,399 Speaker 1: Like you cannot be as much as you can avoid it. 536 00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 1: You don't want to be shuffling that offensive line. You 537 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:12,360 Speaker 1: want the offensive line to be able to settle in. Yeah, 538 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:14,200 Speaker 1: I think it's huge for the entire team. You don't 539 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:16,440 Speaker 1: have that uncertainty. People don't have to be asked about 540 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:19,720 Speaker 1: it all the time. Just look what just happened in 541 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:23,760 Speaker 1: Tampa with their center unfortunately Ryan Jensen going down possibly 542 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 1: season ending injury, and like the upheaval that cost is like, 543 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:30,359 Speaker 1: you know, you want to avoid that, And so I 544 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:33,320 Speaker 1: thought that the decision like this is our offensive line, 545 00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 1: this is who's here, this is what we're going forth with. 546 00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:39,960 Speaker 1: That's it. That was I felt really important when you 547 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:42,160 Speaker 1: have a young quarterback like Zach Wilson needs to be 548 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 1: able to know what's in front of them. All Right, 549 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 1: we're taping this, so I can't ask you your thoughts 550 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:49,400 Speaker 1: on Deshaun Watson because we might have a ruined before 551 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:52,239 Speaker 1: I mean, by the time this goes up. So with 552 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 1: that being said, you take away to Sean, what top 553 00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:59,320 Speaker 1: couple headlines are you looking at? Are you following the 554 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:04,280 Speaker 1: most close sleep here this summer National Football League was well, um, 555 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:07,080 Speaker 1: I just came from Pittsburgh because that's one of the storylines, right, 556 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 1: who's the quarterback there? And how quickly did they go 557 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:12,000 Speaker 1: to Kenny pick at the rookie. I don't know that 558 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:14,600 Speaker 1: it's gonna be seen him week four. What do you think? 559 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:19,680 Speaker 1: For my gut says that Mitch Robisky is going to 560 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:23,920 Speaker 1: be the starter coming out of camp um and I 561 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:26,760 Speaker 1: guess we'll see how it goes. But they're in a 562 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:29,160 Speaker 1: good position because you know, they picked Kenny pick it 563 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:32,320 Speaker 1: twenty I think in the twenties, and so there's not 564 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:34,280 Speaker 1: the same kind of pressure as if he's you know, 565 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:37,720 Speaker 1: the number one overall pick, like and uh so they 566 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 1: can let him develop and they've got a really good 567 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,320 Speaker 1: you know, Mitch Robinsky is a really good veteran quarterback. 568 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:45,680 Speaker 1: So they're in a good they can let that play 569 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:49,160 Speaker 1: out a little bit. Um. So that's one storyline I 570 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:52,480 Speaker 1: think we're all looking at, like how is Russell Wilson 571 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 1: going to do in Denver? Because that is a team 572 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 1: that was a quarterback away. That's a really good roster 573 00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 1: that we thought they just need a quarterback, and now 574 00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 1: you've got a quarterback. So how does that change the 575 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:03,640 Speaker 1: a f C West If it's because the a f 576 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 1: C West is nuts, that may be the most competitive 577 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 1: division we've ever seen in the NFL. I mean it's 578 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:13,720 Speaker 1: you know, Patrick Mahomes and Derek Carr and Justin Herbert 579 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:16,480 Speaker 1: and Russell Wilson. Like I think if you ask people, 580 00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:18,880 Speaker 1: can you rank those one to four? Like I think, 581 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:20,840 Speaker 1: how many different answers would you get? Like where? How 582 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:24,760 Speaker 1: do you rank those four? Um? So I'm curious to 583 00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:27,360 Speaker 1: see what kind of inroads Russell Wilson and the Broncos 584 00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:29,960 Speaker 1: can make if that upsets the balance in the f 585 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:32,400 Speaker 1: C West, so they finally toppled the Chiefs or not. 586 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:35,360 Speaker 1: How does losing Tyreek Hill affect the Chiefs or not? 587 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:40,760 Speaker 1: How does losing Davante Adams affect Aaron Rodgers? Where doesn't 588 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,000 Speaker 1: it don't? I don't know. There's been a lot, there 589 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:44,800 Speaker 1: was a lot of movement in the off season of 590 00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:47,959 Speaker 1: big time players, and so I'm just sort of interested 591 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,000 Speaker 1: to see the trickle down effect of all of that movement. 592 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:52,280 Speaker 1: Speaking of Aaron Rodgers, what did you think about his 593 00:30:52,640 --> 00:31:01,040 Speaker 1: Nicholas and the training camp? I guess I just like, like, 594 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:02,800 Speaker 1: Aaron must have a lot of time on his hands, 595 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:05,640 Speaker 1: Like what are we doing? I don't know what's going on. Yes, 596 00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:07,480 Speaker 1: I think he's just having fun with people, and I 597 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:10,720 Speaker 1: think he probably is like it's another training camp, it's 598 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:12,840 Speaker 1: the dog days of summer. Let's have some fun here. 599 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:15,720 Speaker 1: But I'm just sort of like, what what is happening? Aaron? 600 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,040 Speaker 1: You know, it's crazy. I don't think I've ever thrown 601 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:23,280 Speaker 1: a bag like that before, never over like did something. 602 00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:24,960 Speaker 1: And then who is the poor person who has to 603 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,120 Speaker 1: go scurry after and get the back? Like I just 604 00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:28,760 Speaker 1: needed to play off that whole thing. I wanted to 605 00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:32,920 Speaker 1: see the rest of like what you know, team official 606 00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:37,200 Speaker 1: had to go get Aaron's back. So you have an 607 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:40,880 Speaker 1: interesting itinerary because you'll be here for Back to Football 608 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:45,200 Speaker 1: Saturday and then down to see Tom Brady and the 609 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:49,040 Speaker 1: Buccaneers and our former head coach here with the Jets 610 00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:53,080 Speaker 1: top Bowls t B. Great opportunity for him, right, an 611 00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:56,680 Speaker 1: incredible opportunity, and like a rare opportunity. Let's face it, 612 00:31:56,760 --> 00:32:00,640 Speaker 1: most coaches are hired because the team is is bad, right, 613 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:04,360 Speaker 1: and you've fired a coach, and so most new coaches 614 00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:06,680 Speaker 1: are taking over a roster that's not very good and 615 00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:09,880 Speaker 1: maybe you're rebuilding. And obviously that's not the case in Tampa. 616 00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:12,760 Speaker 1: I mean you could not, I mean you couldn't land 617 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 1: in a better spot. I'm thrilled for him. I'm so 618 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:19,840 Speaker 1: happy for him that he's getting this opportunity. And I 619 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:24,280 Speaker 1: mean he's obviously got a super Bowl caliber team. Um 620 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:27,440 Speaker 1: right now, we'll see what the Ryan Jensen situation means, 621 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:30,840 Speaker 1: but um, you know it's it's a great opportunity for 622 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:34,840 Speaker 1: Todd them thrills form. Last question, I love the Buccaneers 623 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:38,120 Speaker 1: creamsicles uniforms. What did you think about the Jets release 624 00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:41,000 Speaker 1: of the black helmet? I like the black helmet. I 625 00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:45,880 Speaker 1: echo the longtime Jets fans who want those that old 626 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:49,720 Speaker 1: Jets logo, you know whatever theies. I guess, like I love, 627 00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:54,240 Speaker 1: I love like the old throwback stuff. So I hope 628 00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:57,760 Speaker 1: that they do a spin through those two for the Jets. 629 00:32:57,760 --> 00:32:59,400 Speaker 1: But I like the black stuff. I like all the 630 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:03,000 Speaker 1: alternative I like most of them that came out this year. 631 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:05,840 Speaker 1: I think you're not alone about the Jets throwbacks to 632 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:07,960 Speaker 1: see what happens in the future. Like, I love those 633 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:10,280 Speaker 1: old ones from like I'm trying to you know, like 634 00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:14,600 Speaker 1: it must have been the eighties, right right, the sack exchange, 635 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:17,160 Speaker 1: right like, because I love those old uniforms and I 636 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:21,680 Speaker 1: advocate all teams about the last question, Joe Klecko. Should 637 00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:25,000 Speaker 1: he be in the Hall of Fame a senior finalists? Yeah, 638 00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:27,400 Speaker 1: I hope he makes sense that twelve we're going to 639 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:29,080 Speaker 1: cut that list down to three years. I hope he 640 00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:35,040 Speaker 1: makes it. I hope he makes its first ballot. The 641 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:37,480 Speaker 1: first ballot is so much about it. And I am 642 00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:39,680 Speaker 1: not a Hall of Fame voter, but first ballot is 643 00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:42,440 Speaker 1: so much about who else is on the ballot, And 644 00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:45,320 Speaker 1: are there people in there who have been waiting on 645 00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:47,000 Speaker 1: that ballot? We've been waiting a long time. And do 646 00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:50,520 Speaker 1: they feel like they have to get those guys in? Um? So, 647 00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:52,480 Speaker 1: I think it's tough. I mean, do I think what 648 00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:54,480 Speaker 1: you know? When we hear first ballot? That means was 649 00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:58,160 Speaker 1: he an incredibly dominant player? Obviously he was an incredibly 650 00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:00,360 Speaker 1: dominant player, um, And he will be in the Hall 651 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:02,560 Speaker 1: of Fame. Will he be a first ballot Hall of Famer? 652 00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:06,040 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. It's I'll see when 653 00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:09,400 Speaker 1: we see what the final count, what the final cut 654 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:11,759 Speaker 1: is down to the ballot. But you're right, yeah, it's 655 00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:14,240 Speaker 1: who you're going against. It's so much. But I remember 656 00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:17,600 Speaker 1: this the first time Gronk retired before he came back. 657 00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:20,560 Speaker 1: But the first time Gronk retired, people said, is he 658 00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:22,000 Speaker 1: a first ballot Hall of Famer? And I'm like, I 659 00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:24,719 Speaker 1: understand what you're saying. Yes, he was a dominant. He's 660 00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:27,040 Speaker 1: certainly the best of his era, maybe the best ever. 661 00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:30,520 Speaker 1: But so much of the first ballot is about who 662 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:32,600 Speaker 1: else is on the ballot. And for instance, if you 663 00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:36,920 Speaker 1: if you retired in a year that top quarterbacks happened 664 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:41,560 Speaker 1: to retire, yish because the quarterbacks are almost certainly going 665 00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:44,480 Speaker 1: to get in. Um so it's tough. So we'll see 666 00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:46,319 Speaker 1: who else is on the ballot when Revus is up, 667 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:47,640 Speaker 1: but he's going to be in the Hall of Fame. 668 00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:50,600 Speaker 1: If not on the first ballot, then second year or 669 00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:53,080 Speaker 1: third year he'll be there. Yeah. So maybe Joe Cleco 670 00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:59,000 Speaker 1: this year. That woulds and Judy Batista says things are 671 00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:02,760 Speaker 1: looking up. New York Jets is great scene. It great 672 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:07,560 Speaker 1: to be here. Thanks for having me. M