Speaker 1: Get get boys. It's back and reot it all in
Speaker 1: your mind. Yeah, and now deep throating. This is for
Speaker 1: the streets, the real, the relroading, the distant franchise, the
Speaker 1: truth to escape golding and they ain't knowing we speak
Speaker 1: the truth, so they ain't quoted because we wrote it.
Speaker 1: The North South against colds, the g be Mi. We're
Speaker 1: keeping your head bobbing and it ain't no stopping and
Speaker 1: wants to be drives head by. And then the system
Speaker 1: is so corrupted they threw the rock out of their
Speaker 1: heads and then blame it on us. Don't get it
Speaker 1: twisted on code and me and dance it for no
Speaker 1: butterment biscuits. It's Willie d y'all reloaded with another episode
Speaker 1: of information and instructions to help you navigate through this wild, crazy,
Speaker 1: beautiful world. In the studio, Old Love justin Riley Boy,
Speaker 1: hit it with my Facebook name. Hold Love b King
Speaker 1: is in the building, y'ad man. It's good to see you, bro.
Speaker 1: Same here man, It's good to see you man. It's
Speaker 1: good to see your evolution. You appreciate that. Appreciate you
Speaker 1: you brother have come along ways and that is a
Speaker 1: good thing. You know. I'm talking affirmatively, you have come
Speaker 1: along ways in your development as an artist. Show you
Speaker 1: know you put the work in. You put a lot
Speaker 1: of work in. Yeah, I used to be mad at
Speaker 1: my path back in the day, but I appreciate it now,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. People who come out real
Speaker 1: hard in the beginning, they fall real fast too, you know.
Speaker 1: So yeah, mine, I had to at the climb the
Speaker 1: whole time, you know what I'm saying. But we're up now.
Speaker 1: Is there still any doubt? But from others, no, I
Speaker 1: know you never had any doubts. They believe now, I
Speaker 1: wouldn't say it was ever doubt. It was. I think, Um,
Speaker 1: for my generation, it was always a weird error we
Speaker 1: were in. You know what I'm saying. We were right
Speaker 1: after you know, the Slim and Row and you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And you know, my generation is you
Speaker 1: know Propane Kirk, o'bang, just Brittany Dobies. You know, I
Speaker 1: generation was more of the Internet streaming Houston generation. And
Speaker 1: with us, you know, we didn't have all the major
Speaker 1: deals and everything that everybody had before us, you know,
Speaker 1: but not saying that that made that generation. You know,
Speaker 1: Houston to me always been underground city, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. But when you take that underground aspect away,
Speaker 1: the DJ screws the you know, Michael wattson Run. See,
Speaker 1: they still entities, but it wasn't like how the underground
Speaker 1: scene was, you know, with the mixtapes. You know, we
Speaker 1: had to come out through the Internet and streaming and
Speaker 1: Twitter and you know stuff like that. You know. So
Speaker 1: my generation, it was people didn't consider it traditional Houston music,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So you know with me,
Speaker 1: you know, I don't sip serve, I don't do drugs,
Speaker 1: you know, so in a city where everything slow, I
Speaker 1: was the only motherfucker with energy, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: My music was, you know what I'm saying. So a
Speaker 1: lot of people, you know, they wouldn't consider what I
Speaker 1: did Houston music, you know. But you look at how
Speaker 1: everything sounds today from the city. Everything has energy down.
Speaker 1: Everything's club you know, club based from Houston down. So
Speaker 1: I could say I did that. I did that is
Speaker 1: what it is. Yeah, you know what you know, to
Speaker 1: your point, after Slim and and and Paul Wall and
Speaker 1: everybody you know did that thing, you know, I mean,
Speaker 1: your ass and Mike Jones and all of that. It
Speaker 1: did seem like things kind of kind of like came
Speaker 1: to a halt almost, and so it took a long time,
Speaker 1: like you know, really like get that thing, get that
Speaker 1: thing back. I know, Travis Scott came sometime later, but
Speaker 1: you know, it was pretty much seemed like it really
Speaker 1: wasn't any any real activity except for what you and
Speaker 1: maybe our DJ Chose was doing. Yeah, she had a
Speaker 1: little bit buzz going on. Krit co'bain was doing this thing.
Speaker 1: But as far as consistently hearing stuff out there, uh,
Speaker 1: you were the guy that I heard, you know. And
Speaker 1: of course zero always putting out, but zero is another error,
Speaker 1: but zero is all errors. But you know, shout out
Speaker 1: the man. Yeah, but now for a show man, um consistency.
Speaker 1: That's always been my thing. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Um um no. Shout out to people like JQ No.
Speaker 1: Nine seventy nine. You know he always helped me, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying through the radio. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm sating, helping me pick my singles and making sure
Speaker 1: that they were radio friendly and club you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, even to this day, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: So yeah, man, I'm check people all the time. You
Speaker 1: can't compete with the rapper to make his own beats. Man, shit,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna fall off ever. Huh yeah, let's talk
Speaker 1: about that, man. What's what what is the process like
Speaker 1: to be a rapper and a producer. I've never known
Speaker 1: that process. I've only known one side and the rapping side.
Speaker 1: But what's that process like? And how do you mentally switch?
Speaker 1: You know, Before I get into that, I'll tell you
Speaker 1: the downside of it. The downside of its. People never
Speaker 1: truly respect you as a rapper. When people bring that
Speaker 1: Houston rapper conversation up, they always leave me out when
Speaker 1: I've had most more success than most of them, plaques
Speaker 1: all that, you know what I'm saying. But people are
Speaker 1: never looking at me as a rapper because like probably
Speaker 1: the club music and you know how play on songs
Speaker 1: a lot. But when you are our producers, well, people
Speaker 1: never put doctors ra in their category. Never really put
Speaker 1: Kanye in that category. Even David Banner is another one,
Speaker 1: Juicy Jay, my favorite rapper, they don't put him in
Speaker 1: that category. You know, so you know, but for the
Speaker 1: most part, to answer your question, you know, it's one
Speaker 1: of those things where you hear music so much that
Speaker 1: you know, it's kind of like a Prince and Michael
Speaker 1: Jackson thing. Like Michael Jackson. People love Michael Jackson for
Speaker 1: everything he did, and Michael Jackson my favorite too. But Prince.
Speaker 1: You could put Prince in that studio by himself and
Speaker 1: he's gonna come out with that hit by hisself. He
Speaker 1: made the music, everything, sung it, and everything. You know.
Speaker 1: So for the most part, I think artists like me
Speaker 1: who make the beats the music too. You just you
Speaker 1: hear it from his from the beginning to the end.
Speaker 1: You know, you don't have to look for beat or
Speaker 1: you know, sometimes I had a beat already and then
Speaker 1: the idea come from that. Or sometimes I had an
Speaker 1: idea already from being on a road or something, and
Speaker 1: I'll make the beat for the idea I have. Either
Speaker 1: way it go, it's gonna be a bad motherfucking about
Speaker 1: thirty minutes to beat in the in the rap. Yeah,
Speaker 1: not to beat in the rap. You can't do the
Speaker 1: beat beat in the rap in thirty minutes. Well you
Speaker 1: can it, But to me, they were creating parts easy.
Speaker 1: It's the mixing, Like I'm mixing mask style my music too,
Speaker 1: So that's that's what take a week. You did a batting.
Speaker 1: You you're saying that you have the propencity to make
Speaker 1: the beat and the rap and within thirty minutes. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the beat is the easy part. I can make a
Speaker 1: beat in five minutes. It'll be hard, Yeah, five minutes
Speaker 1: and then wants to beat playing in the loop. The
Speaker 1: idea come to you? The hook? You know, you lay
Speaker 1: that hook down real quick. And you know a club song,
Speaker 1: you don't need more than eight bars in your verse.
Speaker 1: So you know, I don't write that bull shit, I'll
Speaker 1: be saying. So you're going there in freestyle four bars
Speaker 1: and then stop and think she do that three more times? Shit,
Speaker 1: the song done. I got a theory why you don't
Speaker 1: get your respect for being a rapper? Probably I know
Speaker 1: where you're going with that. I know where you're going
Speaker 1: with let me see if you know see if you
Speaker 1: get the lyricism. You know it's intricate and people you
Speaker 1: know it feels you should write it, and it takes
Speaker 1: time a thought process because I can really fucking rap.
Speaker 1: Two people don't understand, like that's what I'm cut from.
Speaker 1: I'm cut from No Lloyd Banks and push the t
Speaker 1: and Joe Button, you know, like the O two is
Speaker 1: show three ish. That's why you know when switchoutse was
Speaker 1: like right before they got their deal, every I was
Speaker 1: talking about Mike Jones. I mean I was on Magno Magnificent,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. That's who I was bumping
Speaker 1: a Switchouts, you know. But what's your theory? Well, I
Speaker 1: you know, I appreciate I appreciate you, you know, giving
Speaker 1: me credit for thinking but being a thinker. But it
Speaker 1: ain't that deep. I think the reason why you don't
Speaker 1: get your respect as a rapper is because your name
Speaker 1: is big King. Well, yeah, you get people think of
Speaker 1: you as a producer, so you're making beats. So maybe
Speaker 1: you change your name to rap king. I don't want
Speaker 1: to smoke with that, and you'll get your get you
Speaker 1: get your credit as a rapper, you know, and then
Speaker 1: and then you know, at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: that's maybe that's maybe that's the name of one of
Speaker 1: your new albums or sucking be King rap King. The
Speaker 1: end of the day, man, I don't give a fuck
Speaker 1: either with it, did I don't? Juicy J is my
Speaker 1: idol and mentor. I always wanted to be just like him.
Speaker 1: You know what ship going on? My curd. You don't
Speaker 1: make beats, Yeah you do. He did, made it all
Speaker 1: all that three six maia. Shit, him and DJ Paul
Speaker 1: were making the beats today. Yeah yeah, no, Dj Paul
Speaker 1: was doing all the ju ja they would make. They
Speaker 1: were doing it together. Oh yeah. Juicy J's j A
Speaker 1: a producer. You know. So a lot of those um
Speaker 1: those big heads, all right, more respect more more more respectful. Man,
Speaker 1: I ain't know. I already have respect from, but more respect.
Speaker 1: You know. It's crazy, Like I say, I see what
Speaker 1: they don't give him, so I can't expect for them
Speaker 1: to give it to me. They just said a top
Speaker 1: fifty rappers lists. Mafia was nowhere on that list when
Speaker 1: the game sounds like them two days even Project Pat
Speaker 1: Winton on that, you know what I'm saying. So I
Speaker 1: was just like, you know, shit, I wasn't on the list, man,
Speaker 1: I wrote, listen bro I wrote most of the GB music.
Speaker 1: But you know it's hold on, hold on, This is
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Ghetto Boys is in most people's top five, ten, twenty,
Speaker 1: whatever you want to call it. If I wrote most
Speaker 1: of the music, you know, if I wrote most of
Speaker 1: the songs the majority of the music. I gotta be somewhere.
Speaker 1: I got you somewhere, some kind of list or something
Speaker 1: in a fucked up ass way. You probably not don't
Speaker 1: like this, just like how pimp see what's on there?
Speaker 1: But Bun was on there, So we look at it like,
Speaker 1: all right, pimp, see on there's Bun on there. If
Speaker 1: you see Faith on there, you're like, all right, let's
Speaker 1: get a boy. That's the whole conglomerate. That's how I
Speaker 1: looked at it. They couldn't put groups on there. Let
Speaker 1: me get you some goddamn glass. I need my goddamn credit, man,
Speaker 1: I need because we started busting up publishing checks on guard.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, hey, man, that publish in check.
Speaker 1: That that that public check. Brad Jordan, my publishers check
Speaker 1: s W Dennis here c B Jordan. You did what
Speaker 1: I'm saying? Yeah, I need mine, man. You know it
Speaker 1: comes with it. Bro. We just gotta dying ship. That
Speaker 1: should be lame. You know what I'm saying. Once we die,
Speaker 1: they're like, oh, man, Willie Lee was a genius. He
Speaker 1: motherfucking mind playing tricks on yeah, ball head, hold he man,
Speaker 1: why are they doings like that. Man, it'd be like that. Man,
Speaker 1: people don't want to give it to you when you
Speaker 1: hear they gotta stand on that. When you're here, they
Speaker 1: are when you're gone, they'd be like, oh many gone. Man,
Speaker 1: Now I can say it because ain't that something? You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. It'd be like that. No, I
Speaker 1: went through that my whole career. It's used to it,
Speaker 1: you know. It's like that wearing shirts also, like if
Speaker 1: you wear the shirts of a deceased rapper, Like when
Speaker 1: a rapper is alive, you would hard to ever, hardly
Speaker 1: ever catch another rapper wearing his shirt hip hop, but
Speaker 1: the moment he dies. Hip hop is masculine, you know.
Speaker 1: It's almost the opposite of hip hop. The word gay.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, like, hip hop is so masculine. It's
Speaker 1: like I could do a show and if it's some
Speaker 1: other rappers in there, they'd be like, as soon as
Speaker 1: I leave, man, nigga be came making them hold and
Speaker 1: I funk with that nigga. Shit. They'll never tell me,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So it's like in a
Speaker 1: room where everybody want to be alpha and masculine. Shit,
Speaker 1: they they're not gonna wear no shirt or somebody that's alive.
Speaker 1: But if he die, I ain't I gonna wear it now,
Speaker 1: ship because I fucked with that nigga shit just like
Speaker 1: but is that is that masculine? Is that masculinity or
Speaker 1: is that insecurity? It's insecurity? Insecurity. My big sister just
Speaker 1: passed away, Gangster boot, you know what I'm saying. And
Speaker 1: we shouts out to gainst the boost. Beautiful pie Lola,
Speaker 1: that was my dog. You know what I'm saying. We
Speaker 1: talk like every damn week. You know what I'm saying
Speaker 1: together too, right, Yeah, and we always did you work
Speaker 1: on a new album? Sorry to cut you off? Did
Speaker 1: you work on a new album? I don't even know
Speaker 1: if that's real. I'm just being one hunt. I'm seeing
Speaker 1: all these blogs posts, um she got this what's called
Speaker 1: Prometheus Promethea or when they when they have an album
Speaker 1: after they passed some album coming out post postman. Yeah, however,
Speaker 1: you say, I don't know nothing about that, You know
Speaker 1: I'm saying. He's saying, Juicy Jay, Juicy Jay ain't working
Speaker 1: on a gangster Boo album. I'm not working on game.
Speaker 1: I got enough shit in my hard drive to drop
Speaker 1: a whole album. You know what I'm saying, Because she
Speaker 1: we recorded a lot of stuff that never came out,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, but got off topic. Um,
Speaker 1: we talked a lot about respect and everything and how
Speaker 1: people like how she would hear a lot of her
Speaker 1: flow and a lot of the women to day and
Speaker 1: a lot of and a lot of them that they
Speaker 1: never gave credit, never gave credit. And when she passed away,
Speaker 1: I watching all these rappers and say they loved her,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I just wish she could have saw
Speaker 1: that because we would joke about that shit. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Because Gangster Boo, she was an asshole.
Speaker 1: Like if you knew her, she was very nice, sweet person,
Speaker 1: but she was an asshole, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So she would be roasting a lot of these bitches
Speaker 1: and shit, a lot of motherfuckers and you know things
Speaker 1: I never repeat, you know what I'm saying, But you
Speaker 1: know she would, she would. I wish you could see
Speaker 1: how much people fucked with her, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like straight up, because her DNA is and a lot
Speaker 1: of the flow for the women, and I feel like
Speaker 1: I'm in a way I'm a female rapper, man, Like,
Speaker 1: let's just be one hundred the music I make. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, how women gravitate toward it and
Speaker 1: all that. You know, it is what it is, female rapper, bro,
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I was just thinking about something.
Speaker 1: You know, when I you know, when I content guys
Speaker 1: get a hold of this thing to put it up
Speaker 1: on social media, that's gonna be a motherfucking became gonna
Speaker 1: be to make them clicking. Female rapper, man, it is
Speaker 1: what it is. Man. You you look at like the
Speaker 1: female rap scene from Texas, it's all club music. They
Speaker 1: always listening to be king when they was fifteen, fourteen,
Speaker 1: sixteen years old. And I ain't gonna say no name.
Speaker 1: When you get the saying name, people take it the
Speaker 1: wrong way and think you're trying to take credit for
Speaker 1: somebody's success. And I never do that. We all work
Speaker 1: real hard to get to where we're at. But it
Speaker 1: is what it is. You know what I'm saying. And
Speaker 1: I know what I influenced, you know so, and I'm
Speaker 1: still here. You know, I ain't like one of niggas
Speaker 1: that fell off, like man, y'all know, y'a always listening.
Speaker 1: I got, I got the money, I got the love
Speaker 1: to respect all that, you know, so I can look
Speaker 1: at the game now and be like, man, that's it, dope,
Speaker 1: that's got a boys, reloaded podcasts. We'll be right back
Speaker 1: after the point. Keen Got the Clubs Too mixtape. You
Speaker 1: put that out with two thousand and ten two two
Speaker 1: thousand uh ten yo. Yeah, so that was pretty much
Speaker 1: our introduction, introduction to you and as a as an artist.
Speaker 1: The year before that, my first hit was with Candy
Speaker 1: Red Independent bitches, get up on It, then work. I
Speaker 1: made that beat and from there people was introduced to
Speaker 1: my sound. Okay, yeah, all right, all right. And for
Speaker 1: a long time, man, you were bubbling and then when
Speaker 1: you dropped that then leave. Yeah, how did that feel? Man?
Speaker 1: It felt like I m everybody was like, oh man,
Speaker 1: this is dope, you finally owned, and I'm just like, man,
Speaker 1: look to me, it was more like an about time feeling,
Speaker 1: and to a lot of people who were just discovering,
Speaker 1: I guess it was celebratory for them. To me, I'm like,
Speaker 1: I've been getting this money, been having big houses, been
Speaker 1: performing at these radio events all around the country, these
Speaker 1: stadium I've been doing this. It's just people didn't put
Speaker 1: the face with the music. I say, when the Cucumbers ship.
Speaker 1: When I came up with that, that started helping my
Speaker 1: likeness and people started knowing what I looked like. I
Speaker 1: had the whole green hair and all. I was real
Speaker 1: retarded with it back then. But when a song like
Speaker 1: that comes out, it puts it all together, you know.
Speaker 1: And for you know a lot of new fans. You know,
Speaker 1: they came around in twenty twenty during the pandemic and
Speaker 1: they was like, Man, this new guy b King, this
Speaker 1: is dope. But I've been out here for ten years
Speaker 1: before that, you know what I'm saying, And it's nothing
Speaker 1: like a fan finding out that late to the party.
Speaker 1: They're like, oh shit. They get on Apple Music, they
Speaker 1: started looking up all the old shit and like, damn
Speaker 1: where he made that? Where he made? Throw that ass?
Speaker 1: Wait he made because a lot of these songs that
Speaker 1: blew up, they just really remix of what I've done already.
Speaker 1: You gotta take a song like then leave Me and
Speaker 1: Queendom Come. We made that already, a song we have
Speaker 1: called yean about their life. Oh same formula, slow ass,
Speaker 1: simple ass beat, Girl on the hook, take a song
Speaker 1: like what me and DJ Chose did with Thick the Thick.
Speaker 1: We made that already. It's called throw that, the hold
Speaker 1: up bitch stow that. You know. So when you're around
Speaker 1: long enough, if you're gonna recycle your shit. And you know,
Speaker 1: when I got popping popping, a lot of those new fans,
Speaker 1: they went to discovering all the older music and they
Speaker 1: put it back on TikTok today and a lot of
Speaker 1: these older songs from my catalog they're turning up today
Speaker 1: and I'm looking at the Spotify numbers and they're going up.
Speaker 1: I'm just like, man, this shit's old as fuck. These
Speaker 1: kids were probably seven years old when these songs first
Speaker 1: came out. Now they twenty years old and it's new
Speaker 1: to them. So it is what it is. When you
Speaker 1: think it's fair to say, is it a fair assessment
Speaker 1: to say that you're Mary Formula? Your main ingredient is
Speaker 1: to keep it simple? Yeah, simplicity sales. Yeah. I learned that, um,
Speaker 1: and that was that wasn't an easy transition either, because
Speaker 1: where I come from, I called myself a young old nigga.
Speaker 1: I'm thirty eight years old, you know, so I know
Speaker 1: all about Ghetto Boys CATALOGU. I know about Willie Dee's catalog,
Speaker 1: but I also know about Kake Carbon out of Memphis
Speaker 1: right now, I know about the Youngest Motherfucker's right now,
Speaker 1: and I know about the ogs. So it's like the
Speaker 1: shit I'm cut from. I know what real music is,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So when I'm making beats,
Speaker 1: I want to pack it full of shit, let people
Speaker 1: know that I'm just that nigga. And I had to
Speaker 1: learn that people don't give a fuck. Make what's appeas
Speaker 1: into the ear and where people can listen to and
Speaker 1: feel good, and it hits the brain quickly, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So I started making these simple ass beats. Hey,
Speaker 1: I just start taking all the sounds out and just
Speaker 1: putting drums in that mother's and that's then leave you
Speaker 1: number of drums. You know what I'm saying, Just switch
Speaker 1: the drums up for the verse. Doom doom doom, you
Speaker 1: know yeah, you know. So with the beats I had,
Speaker 1: that wasn't an easy transition. And I'm a lyrical person.
Speaker 1: I can really rap if I want to, but I
Speaker 1: had to learn that bitches don't want to learn triggerometry
Speaker 1: in the club. Just make a simple beat that a
Speaker 1: drunk bitch you like and put a hook on it,
Speaker 1: that a drunk bitch you like, and you're gonna win
Speaker 1: every summer. Huh man, let's go back to the early
Speaker 1: summers when man, what does beat keen originate? Like? At?
Speaker 1: What where did you grow up? I'm from study wood
Speaker 1: student offside, right next to right next to exisome okay, uh,
Speaker 1: Houston area side. It's Houston Area. Yeah, And I got
Speaker 1: a pot in that named Swift. He's a lawyer. We
Speaker 1: call him Swift. That was his hood named Swift. But
Speaker 1: he's a lawyer now. And every time we talk about
Speaker 1: fifth Ward and Studio Ward, I always called it. I
Speaker 1: always say, no, no, good studio Wood man and motherfucker
Speaker 1: let me jump, you asked? Fifth War? God damn ship
Speaker 1: y'all motherfucker coming book of trying to jump niggas and
Speaker 1: ship man, we're not going for that ship. We don't
Speaker 1: come to. Uh what's the what's the high school with
Speaker 1: big Ward? Start with with W. Not No, it's with
Speaker 1: a W. I can't trying. I went to high school
Speaker 1: in Fifth War. It was an altern of school. I
Speaker 1: went there for like two years. What area on the
Speaker 1: right off the freeway. Where's that fucking weekly? Oh? Weekly? Yeah,
Speaker 1: we didn't come to weekly with smoking ship. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But one time, one time, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: change a quick story. We get back on track. But uh,
Speaker 1: one time we ride in the car and uh, you
Speaker 1: know he was little cheap dude, right, So he wanted
Speaker 1: me to pay him for gas to go get my car.
Speaker 1: I had to go pick up my car from the shot.
Speaker 1: So he wanted me to give him some gas suck.
Speaker 1: So I was like, man, you try to me for gas.
Speaker 1: He's like yeah, Man, I say, okay, all right, So
Speaker 1: I put you did something that's and asspit for war ship.
Speaker 1: So I put twenty dollars on the corsole. So I
Speaker 1: put twenty dollars on the console and at twenty dollars,
Speaker 1: he left it down right. So when I got out
Speaker 1: the car to go get in my car, take the
Speaker 1: twenty back. I took the twenty back. Man, that's how
Speaker 1: I don't I drive off right. So once I get
Speaker 1: down the street, he called me. He say, man, fifth
Speaker 1: water and shit, you just bro I'm the same way.
Speaker 1: It don't matter how much how successful I may get
Speaker 1: a money I may make. I'm still cheap, my nigga, Like,
Speaker 1: I still go to the club. I hate paying a park.
Speaker 1: That's my pet pee. I hate giving you. I hate
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm paying to cut my car off. Man,
Speaker 1: let's just hate my hand in a park, you know.
Speaker 1: So I go to Valet, I give them what they
Speaker 1: fifty dollars whatever, and go to the club. Come back
Speaker 1: and I'm like, man, they didn't let me in, man,
Speaker 1: dress code. Man, so I can get a refund back. Man,
Speaker 1: I just hate paying the park. Yeah, but why do
Speaker 1: you think they get away with that? Dude? Hey man,
Speaker 1: everybody got to eat. I respect it, you respect it.
Speaker 1: It's just I'm a hustler too, So I feel like
Speaker 1: you trying to charge me to cut my car off.
Speaker 1: You know what I don't like. I don't like man.
Speaker 1: I don't like the fact that they do it two
Speaker 1: black people, Like. I think that's a bias because I
Speaker 1: go to white the staff wishments also and they don't
Speaker 1: do that. They don't gouge like that. Like you go
Speaker 1: to the white establishment in Houston, at least game on
Speaker 1: you Like, Yeah, I get to the parking lot, I'll
Speaker 1: be like, now I'm cool with the owner. Well, the
Speaker 1: owner doesn't run the parking lots. It's two different entities,
Speaker 1: so that the parking lot is owned by somebody how
Speaker 1: how but it is what it is, and they're gonna
Speaker 1: eat off of that. And if you if you're driving
Speaker 1: them cars, them real cards, you're gonna you're going back.
Speaker 1: I just let me finish my point I was gonna
Speaker 1: make first, but I was saying that you know, uh,
Speaker 1: you go to these uh you go to these uh
Speaker 1: white establishments or any other establishment. You know, the most
Speaker 1: you probably pay the park is primarily white established, but
Speaker 1: it's probably twenty bucks. But when it comes to a
Speaker 1: spot that's primarily black patrons, man, you're talking twenty to
Speaker 1: park in the back, you know. And so everything is
Speaker 1: depending on your car. The car that you're driving depends
Speaker 1: on how high they go put up. So I just
Speaker 1: bought my son a wagon, right, uh huh. So I
Speaker 1: told my seed dropping a hundred if you're going to
Speaker 1: the club, yeah, I told him, I say, But I say,
Speaker 1: you know, I said, you got your valet, your money ready,
Speaker 1: because uh, they gonna hit you up every time you
Speaker 1: valet you finn to pay a hundred dollars at least
Speaker 1: one hundred dollars and that's Houston price. Yeah, Atlanta, you're
Speaker 1: getting hit. Yeah, man, I said, like All Stars happening
Speaker 1: or something, some game or something something going on. In time,
Speaker 1: I'll be feeling disrespected, though, bro I feel different. I
Speaker 1: hate paying the part. You know, I have thousands of
Speaker 1: dollars in my pocket when I try to talk them down.
Speaker 1: But what I don't like. What I don't like, dog,
Speaker 1: is that the fact that they that they bias. Like
Speaker 1: I said, I go to the other establishments and they
Speaker 1: don't do that, but they do it to us. And
Speaker 1: I you know, you know, hey, man, back when I
Speaker 1: was broke, I used to get them counterfeit money, you know,
Speaker 1: so you feel like facts change ain't robbery. They're trying
Speaker 1: to get you like everybody on YouTube. Yeah, and I
Speaker 1: guess you know, I guess you can't can't blame them
Speaker 1: right back at my club eight Mile Days, Yeah, I
Speaker 1: guess you can't blame them. If if black people are
Speaker 1: dumb enough to pay the price, then you know, hey,
Speaker 1: it is what it is. Huh Man's At the end
Speaker 1: of the day, niggas is gonna pay that shit because
Speaker 1: they want their car in the front anyway so they
Speaker 1: can get them bitches. You know, I think it's bigger
Speaker 1: than that. I know that when like when I valet,
Speaker 1: I valet because I want my car to be safe.
Speaker 1: I valet for safe to you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I don't want to come out and some my window
Speaker 1: and I gotta I got the inconvenience of pain, even
Speaker 1: though it's not it's it's it's a little money just
Speaker 1: to fix a window, but the hal it's the inconvenience.
Speaker 1: And they know that and ain't gonna be nothing. Then
Speaker 1: they ain't gonna steal nothing out of the car. I
Speaker 1: never keep any valuables in my car, so that never
Speaker 1: get anything out of it. But it's just inconvenienced. But
Speaker 1: see that's just niggas and not niggas, it's just black people.
Speaker 1: Because you'll go to a black restaurant and four wings
Speaker 1: and a soda. It's eighty dollars plus at tax, and
Speaker 1: you just fifty to park and tax gratuity and extra gratuity.
Speaker 1: And you didn't pay the hundred to park. You didn't
Speaker 1: drop two hundred dollars for three wings. It's like trying
Speaker 1: to support black people. Just it is what it is.
Speaker 1: You know, so that's a cold game right there. Man.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't know anything about chicken wings though. I've just
Speaker 1: lost thirty three pounds, so yeah, thirty three pounds, Yeah
Speaker 1: on guard thirty three pounds man, So what what's your
Speaker 1: what's your weight target? I ain't trying to be skinny, man,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't even be attractive skinny. I ain't. I couldn't
Speaker 1: even be skinny. I'm trying to lose by thirty more
Speaker 1: pounds and I'll be good. Yeah, I'll be good, man.
Speaker 1: I just I just want to be healthier. Man. Shit, Man,
Speaker 1: I feel better. You know I can perform on stage.
Speaker 1: You're better, confident, more confident. Um, you know, you start
Speaker 1: knocking on that forty door, your body start doing weird shit,
Speaker 1: your chief start falling out. Uh yeah, your cheeth not
Speaker 1: gonna fall out for no reason? Well yeah, if you
Speaker 1: ate candy your whole life, like you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like you ate candy and drink soda and all that,
Speaker 1: and you know you, um, you start getting these high
Speaker 1: blood pressure headaches for no reason, and your heart start
Speaker 1: doing a little jumping bullshit and you laying down. You
Speaker 1: ain't even doing nothing. You just laying down and your
Speaker 1: heart beating fast. You like, know, man, I ain't get
Speaker 1: to this point and this success to die. What was
Speaker 1: it for? You know what I'm saying. So it's like,
Speaker 1: let me try to do something about it, you know. So, Um,
Speaker 1: I hate going to the gym, so I bought everything
Speaker 1: in the garage. So I live weights three times a
Speaker 1: week and I try to walk for an hour every day,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And I changed my eating
Speaker 1: habits too, and that's how I did it. How were
Speaker 1: you growing up? Like you grew up with your mom
Speaker 1: and dad? Where was the family? Me and my mom? Um?
Speaker 1: My little brother came when I was around nine, you know,
Speaker 1: but I was the only child till like nine years old,
Speaker 1: and we stayed in study Wood, small ass house, um
Speaker 1: in the hood. Uh that's probably why I am scared
Speaker 1: of roaches to this day. You know, I'm saying, don't
Speaker 1: matter how I clean your house was, if your house
Speaker 1: was on bricks, like you was gonna see roaches and rats.
Speaker 1: There's no way around that shit. But yeah, but I
Speaker 1: said I wouldn't know gangster though. Like, um, my mom
Speaker 1: was a good person. She raised me the right way.
Speaker 1: You know so all my partners that was gangster and shit,
Speaker 1: our people going to their house and seeing how their
Speaker 1: mama was, their daddy was. And that's why I ain't
Speaker 1: like y'all ain't hating nothing because we're gonna beat somebody
Speaker 1: up together, you know. But yeah, y'all, nigga savage, I'm
Speaker 1: not say like, you know, you need to be in
Speaker 1: the movies, right man, you got you got that persona
Speaker 1: man like seas all that. I'm a hood nigga. I
Speaker 1: ain't know gangster though, Like you know, it ain't that
Speaker 1: wrong with being a gangster. You know, some people ain't
Speaker 1: got they just gonna be a gangster. That's what they
Speaker 1: have to be. I don't know. I think I think
Speaker 1: a better message. It is something wrong with being a
Speaker 1: gangster because to get a good gangster lifestyle, you know,
Speaker 1: and I've been a gangster, you know, like the gangster
Speaker 1: lifestyle doesn't have a great retirement plan. But you know
Speaker 1: what you're speaking from, nigga that made it to the
Speaker 1: retirement plan. See, when you're younger, the the bitches only
Speaker 1: want the gangster is younger women. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: that nice guy is not getting no pussy at all.
Speaker 1: But that gangster that's going to juvenile and shit, no,
Speaker 1: he's fucking all the bitches in the apartments. What's about
Speaker 1: being rebellious? I think, yeah, you think young people, the
Speaker 1: youth wants just by nature rebellious. And that's no matter
Speaker 1: what generation that is. Its transcends generations. You know. For sure.
Speaker 1: Young people are just like rebellion. And that's why when
Speaker 1: they get to be a certain age, they go trying
Speaker 1: to clean up everything because that shit got they got
Speaker 1: a time limit on it. Man. You can't do that
Speaker 1: ship forever, man, and then you're gonna run to a nigga.
Speaker 1: That's about that, just like you. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: What happened then because your reputation procedes you. Also, so
Speaker 1: it's somebody why you being active. It's somebody watching you
Speaker 1: being active, and they're thinking, like, yeah, sooner or later,
Speaker 1: he's gonna try me. Soon or later, I'm gonna have
Speaker 1: to deal with that guy. And they already not already
Speaker 1: not a deal, they're already plotting on you, Yeah, because
Speaker 1: they've been watching you be active. Yeah. Man, So you
Speaker 1: did you get into any fights as a kid, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I got um, I got into a lot of fights
Speaker 1: as a kid. Um and what were these fights? Primarily
Speaker 1: over these fights, Man, disrespect the number one thing for niggas.
Speaker 1: Somebody somebody playing as you know people, you know, niggas
Speaker 1: just gonna fuck with you. They're gonna try you. Maybe
Speaker 1: we ain't got money like that. And everybody got Jordan's
Speaker 1: but I got George ash Or you know everybody. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Their mama taking them to the
Speaker 1: mall to get their school clothes. And then I had
Speaker 1: to go to Winners. You know what I'm saying, Shit
Speaker 1: like that. You know what I'm saying, better than we
Speaker 1: had to go. We had to Winners was lit. So
Speaker 1: we we had Winners sometimes, but other times and for
Speaker 1: those who you don't know, Winners was a department store.
Speaker 1: But uh but you know that was other times. We
Speaker 1: had to use vouchers. Man, we had these vouchers and
Speaker 1: go to like Salvation Army, that kind of stuff. I
Speaker 1: went through that that you'd be lucky you find some something,
Speaker 1: some night shoes and Salvation Army, but they have brand
Speaker 1: new things now. It's lit. Nah. It's just like how
Speaker 1: how food samp City is today. Back in the day,
Speaker 1: you cannot get no name brand shit. Yeah. Before we
Speaker 1: had to get that shit at the bottom, we had
Speaker 1: to get appleed apples and not apple jacks. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But today you can ball out with
Speaker 1: the motherfucker with food stamps. Today you could buy anything. Man.
Speaker 1: I was. I was in the store a couple of
Speaker 1: weeks ago, and I saw what it is the EBT
Speaker 1: card where it was showing that you could buy like
Speaker 1: lobster and oh ship, that kind of stuff. I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 1: shit different, I remember. I don't know how it is now,
Speaker 1: but I remember them food sound like that. The one
Speaker 1: dollar food stamp was great, or the five dollar one
Speaker 1: was brown and shit and it should have liked Monopoly money.
Speaker 1: To me, I thought the ship was actually flying. I said,
Speaker 1: we don't, we don't need real money. We could use
Speaker 1: this ship, all right. But when she was like, we
Speaker 1: can't get craft cheese, we have to get this this
Speaker 1: trash ass ship, I was like, Okay, I don't like
Speaker 1: this ship. Did you? Were you ever in the store
Speaker 1: with with the food stamps and waited to somebody to lead,
Speaker 1: waited to other people left my mom. She didn't care
Speaker 1: like that, you know what I'm saying. You you never
Speaker 1: went to the store food stamps. Well I would. I
Speaker 1: would stand next to her when she did it. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Um, Yeah, I ain't you got
Speaker 1: off easy. My mama used to send us to the
Speaker 1: store with the food stamps, and so we got the
Speaker 1: food stamps and we're waiting like so we try to
Speaker 1: spend the food stamps quickly before somebody comes in the
Speaker 1: store who recognizes us. I think my mama tried. They
Speaker 1: later on they wouldn't let kids do it. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think my mama tried. They had me do that Croakers
Speaker 1: one time. Now, what was the sh Apple tree back then?
Speaker 1: Now for any of you out there now, for any
Speaker 1: of you out there who might be on some bs.
Speaker 1: My mama worked, so we had web fast to subsidize
Speaker 1: or income. My mama worked five days a week for
Speaker 1: the for the Houston Independent School District as a cook.
Speaker 1: My mom was a teacher. She worked for HUD. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we were still bro That's what it would hit me.
Speaker 1: I remember being like in middle school, like college Jane
Speaker 1: all that, it's dope if it's a two income household.
Speaker 1: But my mama got two kids, a master's degree and
Speaker 1: as a teacher, and we still broke. Well, y'all broke.
Speaker 1: We wouldn't we wasn't I say this because she she
Speaker 1: worked her ass off. She would teach during the week,
Speaker 1: she was a real estate agent. She played piano at church,
Speaker 1: three different churches on Sundays to get through different checks
Speaker 1: from through different churches. You know. So she brought a
Speaker 1: lot of money in, but it just wasn't enough like that,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. She always Now I'm like,
Speaker 1: I know she had a drug habit. She wasn't shrink,
Speaker 1: she been doing nothing of that. But for the most
Speaker 1: part she she always and with my child support money,
Speaker 1: my my little brother, charl support money. It was just
Speaker 1: always just enough for the bills and a car note
Speaker 1: and a light bill. And you know, yeah, did any
Speaker 1: of the utilities ever get turned off? No, did y'all
Speaker 1: ever get evicted? No shit, y'all rich by y'all y'all
Speaker 1: was good? You did you know? Mamma did good? How
Speaker 1: many how many of you are? Was it? It was
Speaker 1: too It was too like I never I never tried
Speaker 1: to credit her like we was just fucked up. But
Speaker 1: I think my mama understood the system. She was like
Speaker 1: all right, Well, I can get these food stamps over here,
Speaker 1: said that freeze up this money for this. If I
Speaker 1: played piano piano at these churches, then that would be
Speaker 1: the food money for the week. If I can sell
Speaker 1: a house in there, then maybe he can get some
Speaker 1: Jordans or something. You know what I'm saying, Like we
Speaker 1: would be in the hood, but I had Nintendo Super,
Speaker 1: Nincendo Genesis and all that. Man, what you headed here,
Speaker 1: everybody came to you got it the good life meals,
Speaker 1: y'all didn't get the phone turned off. That's why I
Speaker 1: tell people that there are good people in that that
Speaker 1: are in the hood, who are law abiding citizens, who
Speaker 1: work every day and who are just genuinely good people.
Speaker 1: I know a lot of any more people. There are
Speaker 1: more of those type of people in the hood than
Speaker 1: that are, not for sure, but you know how they
Speaker 1: like to spend the narrative. Yeah, that that should always
Speaker 1: been good for to me. Like my thing is, I'm
Speaker 1: from the hood. We we were broke, but my mom
Speaker 1: made sure that I didn't notice. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: like it, I know we'd be moving from here to here,
Speaker 1: and you know what I'm saying, and certain things that
Speaker 1: happen and all that, But for the most part, she
Speaker 1: tried to make sure I had things that I wanted,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So I gotta say, Um,
Speaker 1: you know, I hadn't been through hard times, but I
Speaker 1: know it's people who've had a way it worse. Way
Speaker 1: it worse. People who didn't have parents who had it
Speaker 1: all together, you know what I'm saying. So they had
Speaker 1: to go outside and do shit, you know what I'm saying. So,
Speaker 1: like I say, it's um, I always come in my
Speaker 1: mama for that I'm saying, because that's probably ain't no,
Speaker 1: Probably that's why I got all my musical talent from
Speaker 1: I'm saying. She would play the piano. Now I was
Speaker 1: just watching, just watch. It was always a piano in
Speaker 1: the house, an old piano from her grandma, you know.
Speaker 1: So she would play the piano at the church. I'll
Speaker 1: play the drums, you know what I'm saying. Okay, all right, yeah,
Speaker 1: that followed me all the way to the band. That
Speaker 1: Book of T I'm playing the drums in the band
Speaker 1: and yo Book of T. Yeah, we smash y'all on
Speaker 1: that Battle of the Band. Never say nobody could fuck
Speaker 1: with us nobody but the Yates. Yates and Yates couldn't
Speaker 1: even see us. You know what. You know you came
Speaker 1: at way after me. But that's the only reason why.
Speaker 1: But but go look up the history of farrest Brook.
Speaker 1: That band y'all went on. But I get to see.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say what made far As Forest brooklet. Y'all
Speaker 1: were very loud. So y'all weren't the best players, hell no, man,
Speaker 1: but y'all were so loud that y'all soul that ship.
Speaker 1: So if motherfucker's come out on the field, you just
Speaker 1: like how I feel that shit. Y'all loud and the
Speaker 1: motherfucker y'all can't see me though I can't see me.
Speaker 1: But you know, y'all, y'all loud. Far As Brook was
Speaker 1: loud and and and we had man fars Brook was
Speaker 1: nice though they came girls. I'm talking about the baddest
Speaker 1: girls man Farest Brook. We had so many fine girls.
Speaker 1: Like the girls who were petitue we had wasn't but
Speaker 1: like nines and dimes on the Chili the team, if
Speaker 1: they had a woman body, they were jaguars, you know, y'all.
Speaker 1: And red the little schools y'all called them majors, but
Speaker 1: you know, it was on a different level. So we
Speaker 1: called it. We was a Jaguars, So we called our
Speaker 1: girls the jaguar Ets. You know what's crazy. I went
Speaker 1: to so many high schools because I like, when I
Speaker 1: turned sixteen, I knew I wanted to be who I
Speaker 1: ended up being, and I dropped out so many times.
Speaker 1: I just didn't want to go to school nomore. I
Speaker 1: just wanted to make beats and wrap and just do that,
Speaker 1: and I dropped out somebody side. I would never do
Speaker 1: my work. I would when I got there, I did
Speaker 1: my work. I just didn't want to go. I started
Speaker 1: making beats when I was sixteen. I would be up
Speaker 1: to like six seven in the morning. My mom would
Speaker 1: go to work before I had to leave. So I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna stay up to six am and didn't get
Speaker 1: dressed and go to school. I'm just gonna not go,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like the fuck? You know?
Speaker 1: So I would my mom because she worked at HID,
Speaker 1: she could if I'm feeling at this school, take me
Speaker 1: out of there, put me in another one, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So I went to so many different
Speaker 1: high schools, and then when I moved to Titwell. That's
Speaker 1: when I went to Jersey Village and that was side
Speaker 1: Fair District, and I was just like, whoa, the bitches
Speaker 1: over here way better. So it hit me that you
Speaker 1: had bitches that was hood bad, and then you had
Speaker 1: these bitches that had money. These bitches looked a little
Speaker 1: badder than the hood bitches. And I don't get it
Speaker 1: sucked up. I love my hood bitches, but this bitch
Speaker 1: look a little better getting out this bins man, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I was like, it's a different
Speaker 1: level of hood, different level of bad bitch over here,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But maybe I'm just used
Speaker 1: to I always felt like the hood schools made me
Speaker 1: like ugly bitches, the hood schools because in the hood,
Speaker 1: most of these bitches was ugly, but they had fat asses,
Speaker 1: so you'd be like, damn that bitch bad to their
Speaker 1: motherfucker when she she really just had a nice as
Speaker 1: body and shit. And in hood schools, a sprinkle of
Speaker 1: them are pretty, and they either fucking with the bass,
Speaker 1: the basketball or the football. Niggas or some nigga in
Speaker 1: college or some other ship, or some old ass nigga
Speaker 1: they have no business fucking with you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But nine times out of tea in the hood, man,
Speaker 1: they just from the high school I went to and
Speaker 1: ship the Book of T. It wasn't pretty like that. See,
Speaker 1: some of them was so you called Book of T
Speaker 1: at the end of their glory. Now Book of T
Speaker 1: has some bad ones. I don't get it. Sucked up
Speaker 1: every in the hood you got pretty bitches, but most
Speaker 1: of them just pretty girls, pretty girls, pretty women, pretty girls,
Speaker 1: pretty women. This is be keen, y'all. The show is
Speaker 1: y'all know I'm no, but in my older age, I
Speaker 1: do give a fuck now, and I want to talk
Speaker 1: to the black women. I don't want you to think
Speaker 1: that just because you in the hood, or you're living situation,
Speaker 1: or you may not have as much as the other people,
Speaker 1: that that affects your beauty or you look any less
Speaker 1: than the other ones. All I'm saying is just what
Speaker 1: I observed as a seventeen year old. I peep that
Speaker 1: in the hood you have females with gold teeth. You
Speaker 1: have females that was tatted the fun up, fuck up
Speaker 1: all that hood ass bitches, and that looked good to
Speaker 1: me too. But when I went over here to Side
Speaker 1: Falls in Jersey Village. They wasn't tattered up. They had
Speaker 1: gold teeth. These bitches talked like white girls and they
Speaker 1: was just as thick as the hood bitches. And I
Speaker 1: was just just dip. So let me rephrase that they're
Speaker 1: not batter. Your voice reloaded. Podcasts will be right back
Speaker 1: after the point. Let's let's talk about uh. Let's talk
Speaker 1: about one of your favorite words, bitch m Now, how
Speaker 1: do you reconcile loving using that word so much? I
Speaker 1: mean that word is one of your favorite words. I
Speaker 1: mean it has a dear place in your heart, a
Speaker 1: special place in your heart. How do you reconcile using
Speaker 1: that word and raising two daughters? What? What if? What
Speaker 1: what if? What if? What if? What do you go
Speaker 1: to question? They ask? What if? What if somebody put
Speaker 1: a queue coming your daughter? If your daughters your daughters
Speaker 1: are what nine ten, eleven, eleven, sooner to be eleven
Speaker 1: and twelve eleven twelve, your daughters having in twelve? What
Speaker 1: if your daughter came home and said, chance called me
Speaker 1: a bat? Where you do it? Don't have to be
Speaker 1: a situation where are you hanging around this nigga? Let's
Speaker 1: just be one hunt because like, if a nigga just
Speaker 1: called you a bitch for no reason, why you just
Speaker 1: eating in the cafeteria, I'm gonna have to come to
Speaker 1: the school. But if you are all in this nigga
Speaker 1: face and you know, all on this nigga dick and
Speaker 1: shit and he don't value women, and you notice and
Speaker 1: he called you a bitch, you're talking abody living in
Speaker 1: twelve man. That's when it saw it going down in
Speaker 1: middle school. Shit shit at middle school. I went to
Speaker 1: black middle school on the North Side. I mean, it
Speaker 1: was bitches pregnant in that bitch thirteen twel But anyway, um,
Speaker 1: it would have to be I'd have to know what's
Speaker 1: going on behind it, because if you all on this
Speaker 1: nigga face, you you gotta respect yourself. If this nigga
Speaker 1: calling all the girls around him bitches and you want
Speaker 1: to still hang around this nigga, you're gonna be a
Speaker 1: bit soon. Okay. So see Heaven b King is a daddy,
Speaker 1: You're gonna look at the world a whole lot different.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like I put my daughters
Speaker 1: on I talked to him like street niggas from a
Speaker 1: very young age. So nothing. They're not impressed by no nigga,
Speaker 1: none of that shit. You know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 1: if your dad is being club guard, you're gonna know
Speaker 1: what the fuck going on at a very young age.
Speaker 1: All these songs I made, they were there. They was
Speaker 1: hearing this ship they were they were there holding one,
Speaker 1: were making the beat the little one. Uh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm sitting there saying this. You know. So when they
Speaker 1: get a little older day day, you know, question is
Speaker 1: gonna be asked. And I always explained to them. But
Speaker 1: I tell you what though, you know, uh, I'll be
Speaker 1: a suicide man. And just watching you, like watching watching
Speaker 1: you interact with your daughter, both of them, watching you
Speaker 1: just interact with them, let me know that you were,
Speaker 1: at the very minimum a good dad. You know that
Speaker 1: right there. I'm always impressed by good fathers, you know,
Speaker 1: Like I'm always suppressed by by guys who spend time
Speaker 1: with their children, like quality time with their children. And
Speaker 1: you can tell the ones who really are into their children,
Speaker 1: like like crazy, I could tell. I could tell that.
Speaker 1: I feel like the best dads are the people who
Speaker 1: didn't have one. Oftentimes they are like, yeah, you want
Speaker 1: to be that guy. I'm just like I. I couldn't
Speaker 1: imagine not being in their lives, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Like my dad, we got cool before he passed away,
Speaker 1: like in um oh three, but he wasn't there at all.
Speaker 1: I say, probably my whole life. I probably seeing this
Speaker 1: guy probably maybe two or three weeks out of my
Speaker 1: whole life if you add up all the different time
Speaker 1: we saw each other, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: I wasn't feeling that nigga like that. I ain't gonna lie,
Speaker 1: you know. But when um, when I turned eighteen, he
Speaker 1: just he tried to come in my life more and
Speaker 1: talk to me, and I couldn't do num but of of
Speaker 1: respect that, you know, I ain't gonna be no whole
Speaker 1: ass nigga, no nigga fuck you know. You know it
Speaker 1: was you know, I let him try to, you know,
Speaker 1: and we got cool before he passed away, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But I couldn't. I couldn't put my
Speaker 1: daughters through that and this fucked up ass world we
Speaker 1: in now. Man, you need some male figure to let
Speaker 1: you know what the fuck is going on. Like it's
Speaker 1: it's it's it's rough out here. It was rough back
Speaker 1: in the day. But today man, with them phones. Man,
Speaker 1: you take an ell man. Back in the day, man,
Speaker 1: you can just switch schools. But today man, it's on
Speaker 1: the internet. Man, so you can't run from no l today.
Speaker 1: So you gotta teach them values and things. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Just like, don't embarrass yourself. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like, just you know, because if you
Speaker 1: embarrass yourself, I'm gonna make a song about you, like
Speaker 1: I don't even know you, and it's gonna be on
Speaker 1: the radio. Your kids and your friend's gonna be tiktoking
Speaker 1: to that shit. All that shit. Okay, hypothetically speaking, hypothetically speaking,
Speaker 1: Your daughter comes home, she's I don't know, sixteen years old,
Speaker 1: and she has a guy right behind her. She says, Dad,
Speaker 1: this is my boyfriend. And you look the guy up
Speaker 1: and down. You know, he smelled like weed. He tagged
Speaker 1: it up and his pants are hanging off his ass,
Speaker 1: and he tell you, what's up? Nigga? How you how
Speaker 1: do you respond to that? This is nothing. I wouldn't
Speaker 1: even judge it from his pants hanging out or weed.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't even judge him from that. But what's up? Nigga?
Speaker 1: And get the bitch o what get the fuck out
Speaker 1: of Nigga? What the But then I can't do that
Speaker 1: with women because they will rebel. They will go see it,
Speaker 1: see this nigga and fuck him next week behind your back.
Speaker 1: So it's like you have to instill it in your daughters,
Speaker 1: like I am not. I can't sit here and say
Speaker 1: that my daughters are exempt from any of this. It
Speaker 1: can happen to any of us. You can be the
Speaker 1: best dad and he can still happen to you. All
Speaker 1: I know is that I did everything I could instill.
Speaker 1: Like you hear my songs, so you know in a
Speaker 1: way whatnot to be, like, don't be like my lyrics.
Speaker 1: You know I'm saying in a fucked up ass way.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Whatever I'm wrapping about, I
Speaker 1: don't do that shit, you know what I'm saying. Like
Speaker 1: it just it is what it is, you know. But
Speaker 1: I um, I never judge a young man for being young.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Nigga's gonna smoke, They're gonna
Speaker 1: you know, they're gonna sack, They're gonna do all that. Hell,
Speaker 1: you're sixteen, man. It is what it is. What it is.
Speaker 1: But um, certain people you you you know when they
Speaker 1: in the streets. Though, you can look at some of
Speaker 1: them little niggas and be like, let me see this
Speaker 1: nigga Instagram and here holding pistols. Never picture now, Nah,
Speaker 1: that's not no nigga you've been with. You have a
Speaker 1: humorous side of you, but you also have a serious
Speaker 1: side of you. Most people know the humorous out of
Speaker 1: you when you make from making the beats and stuff
Speaker 1: and just being this jolly guy, right, just you know,
Speaker 1: happy gold like a guy. Uh, how do you respond
Speaker 1: when people take you for a joke. Let's say, let's
Speaker 1: say it's a situation you know where you know, I
Speaker 1: don't know you just it's you know, it's a serious
Speaker 1: situation that somebody think thinking that because of what they've
Speaker 1: heard you in the music, they thinking that, you know,
Speaker 1: on the personal side, that's who you are, who you
Speaker 1: know what I don't. I'm not saying it can't happen,
Speaker 1: but I don't have problems like that. I think for
Speaker 1: two reasons. Um. Number one, when you see me in person,
Speaker 1: you see I'm sixty three, you were like, oh man,
Speaker 1: I thought I can whoop that little jolly ass nigga. Man, shit, man,
Speaker 1: I gotta shoot him down man, like the little jolly nigga.
Speaker 1: I thought like that, you know what I'm saying, So
Speaker 1: people they don't don't play with me like that, not
Speaker 1: saying I can't get played with it. But I don't
Speaker 1: have those problems. And another reason, another thing. I don't
Speaker 1: carry myself like that. I don't with a jury. I
Speaker 1: don't flash money like that. I don't, you know, so
Speaker 1: a lot of people when they meet me, they see
Speaker 1: I'm a real ass person. I don't. I don't feel
Speaker 1: like I'm too big to talk to anybody. I have
Speaker 1: a conversation with anybody. I don't um. And most time
Speaker 1: I had the problems with people, it was they just
Speaker 1: wanted me to fuck with them. They just man, b
Speaker 1: king bro weak. I just want you to fuck with me.
Speaker 1: Just listen to my music, bro, just that's all I wanted.
Speaker 1: Bro ain't handle It's like, you know, like it's I
Speaker 1: don't have issues with nobody, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And this I think because I care. I know how
Speaker 1: to talk to people, you know what I'm saying, how
Speaker 1: to carry myself, you know, And what is the best
Speaker 1: way for somebody to approach you. Who's trying to get
Speaker 1: you to listen to their music or listen to their sound,
Speaker 1: their wraps. What's the best way for them to get
Speaker 1: at you. How about this to anybody approaching any artists,
Speaker 1: just step outside of your own shoes for a little
Speaker 1: while and just put yourself in that position. If somebody
Speaker 1: is taking the ship, they don't want to have a
Speaker 1: conversation with nobody. That just happened to me two weeks ago.
Speaker 1: I was in a restaurant taking the ship. Dude came
Speaker 1: in there, bking B Can I know that I know
Speaker 1: that you up in there? Huh, I saw you walk
Speaker 1: up in there. Bro. You know what I'm saying, Man,
Speaker 1: I just want to let you know now I really
Speaker 1: fuck with what you do for the city, dog, and
Speaker 1: I want you to fuck with my music. I'm not
Speaker 1: saying nothing. I'm just like I'm taking the ship. You know,
Speaker 1: when somebody walk in the bathroom, you you clutch your
Speaker 1: ass cheeks tight. You stop, you stop taking that ship
Speaker 1: because you don't want to hear that bed. So I'm
Speaker 1: already sitting there trying not to let this shit out.
Speaker 1: This nigga talking to me, I'm just like this nigga
Speaker 1: is still When the nigga started to wrap, that's I said.
Speaker 1: I said, I say, say, my nigga, I say, I say,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to take a ship my nigga. All right, man,
Speaker 1: all right, all right, And then he just walked out,
Speaker 1: and I'm just like, but I remember when I was
Speaker 1: a new artist and it was like two thousand nine
Speaker 1: or ten, I probably would have said something made n't
Speaker 1: want to do something when I kind of got out
Speaker 1: the stall or something. You know. So I'm growing too
Speaker 1: saying like but it come with it. It comes with it. Man.
Speaker 1: You can't go to Walmart, man, you can't do normal shit.
Speaker 1: If you go to Walmart, you gotta take pictures with
Speaker 1: damn there everybody in that hole. You gotta you know shit.
Speaker 1: And you start going to Target because it's not as
Speaker 1: ranche I go to Target, Man, start start going to
Speaker 1: some whole food, um, grocery stores. It's the one all
Speaker 1: they you said, whatever, But yeah, man, you know, but people,
Speaker 1: I'm a real approach, approachable person. Man, I'm not an
Speaker 1: ass So how I sit there and have a conversation.
Speaker 1: I ain't with that touching ship though, No, because that
Speaker 1: that that almost escalated Um, I say, around January, I'm
Speaker 1: up in Walgreens and um, a guy walked up on him.
Speaker 1: He was a fan, but he walked up to me,
Speaker 1: touching me. He put his arm around me. What's up?
Speaker 1: Bee king niggat, fuck with you the fuck off of me?
Speaker 1: He's nigga, what the fuck you want to do? I say, Nigga,
Speaker 1: I don't know you. Nigga. You put your arm around me.
Speaker 1: He was like, shit, man, I fuck with your ship though. Man,
Speaker 1: I say, nigga, say that, then you can't just be
Speaker 1: touching people like that so she can escalate quick. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. If you don't know how to
Speaker 1: talk to people and de escalate the situations, how to
Speaker 1: talk to people, you know what I'm saying, because miscommunication,
Speaker 1: it can go left quick. Man. A lot of these
Speaker 1: people that don't like you, they were when they were
Speaker 1: getting dressed to go to the club, they was your fan,
Speaker 1: putting on these shirts and shit, they was your fan.
Speaker 1: They loved you until they walked up to you and
Speaker 1: said the wrong thing and not. He instantly want to
Speaker 1: kill you because you killed the whole perception to you,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So it's like I try
Speaker 1: to stop that shit. You know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 1: I try to stop for it. Get there. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. It's been times I've been the clubs
Speaker 1: and you know what I'm saying. Niggas they mugging you
Speaker 1: and shit. And you know what I'm saying, You get
Speaker 1: through doing your show because you in the city, they
Speaker 1: can get to you. You know what I'm saying, They
Speaker 1: get right past them security niggas and all that. What'
Speaker 1: so b king And I want you to fuck with
Speaker 1: my ship and I say, man, look, I'm gonna be
Speaker 1: one hunter with you. We're in a club. It ain't
Speaker 1: nothing I could do anything. You say that wasn't listening
Speaker 1: to their music. They're ready to go left now because
Speaker 1: you you fucked up the plan they had. They were
Speaker 1: gonna rap to you and you were gonna fuck with
Speaker 1: and he was gonna be like hustling flow and the ship.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. But I had to get
Speaker 1: close to the nigga. I got real close to him,
Speaker 1: so you know I wasn't those like no bitch of
Speaker 1: ass nigga. I said, Hey, I'm gonna be one honey
Speaker 1: with you. My nigga, you don't need to be rapping
Speaker 1: your ship to these rappers anyway, me saying this ain't
Speaker 1: the right time. This to me saying it's not the
Speaker 1: right time, because it ain't. You need to stop saying
Speaker 1: your ship to these rappers anyway, because you're saying your
Speaker 1: ship to these rappers and in six months you hear
Speaker 1: your ship on their ship. Stop rapping to these rappers
Speaker 1: in the club. He goes steal your ship. However, he
Speaker 1: was like, he was like, no, I respected, I respected,
Speaker 1: I appreciate you. You know what I'm saying, fucking with me?
Speaker 1: And shit, I fuck with your ship, Charlotte. For a guy,
Speaker 1: for a guy who meets his idol in the club,
Speaker 1: who is does what that idol does, if he raps,
Speaker 1: if he makes beats. Let's just say he raps, and
Speaker 1: he has an opportunity to approach you. And what is
Speaker 1: the alternative if he can't walk up to you. Because
Speaker 1: a lot of rappers have heard rappers got on by
Speaker 1: walking up to jay Z or this person and spitting
Speaker 1: their bars, what is the best way for them? If
Speaker 1: they can't get you, get at you right there on
Speaker 1: the spot, what's the best way for them? To get
Speaker 1: at you or anybody. When rappers come up to me,
Speaker 1: i'd tell them, real nigga, shit, it's nothing I can
Speaker 1: do for you right now now. If you want to
Speaker 1: picture something that's cool, but you spitting to me and
Speaker 1: all that. This ain't the nineties, bro, ain't no guy
Speaker 1: in the back of the bar and gonna sign you
Speaker 1: had a lack of records, and like this ain't now.
Speaker 1: If they want to make if they if they want
Speaker 1: to get some production that's different. Now. My thing is,
Speaker 1: if y'all want to get a feature or be to
Speaker 1: something that's different, take my number down. Let's get it popping.
Speaker 1: But all that walking up thinking of that I'm going
Speaker 1: to change your life tonight like that, It's not possible,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Even if I like what
Speaker 1: you're gonna spit, what can I do right now? You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like I'll be like, man, look,
Speaker 1: don't give your song to me. Give it to a
Speaker 1: DJ that can do something with it. That DJ right
Speaker 1: up there in that booth. Take your song to him,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Take that song. Get all
Speaker 1: your little nieces and cousins and everything, make all of
Speaker 1: them do tiktoks to this song. A lot of niggas
Speaker 1: they don't want to do the work of this one instant,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And anything that you tell
Speaker 1: them outside the instant, they take it as Hayden. The
Speaker 1: flip side of that is the women. What's the most
Speaker 1: memorable escalation that you had with a woman in the
Speaker 1: club or just anywhere out in public? The escalation and
Speaker 1: you're like, damn that that changed quick. That The first thing,
Speaker 1: the first thing came in my brain was, Um, two
Speaker 1: thousand and twelve, my manager is my baby mama. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, shot Tatasha. You know what I'm saying, Um,
Speaker 1: she's very club guards sensitive. Because we have children together,
Speaker 1: we protect them and we protect the money. I trust
Speaker 1: and because she would not fuck over me because we
Speaker 1: got kids. We're gonna get this money forever. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. We gotta understand it. We're not together,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, But we have a respect
Speaker 1: for each other, you know what I'm saying. And in
Speaker 1: two thou twelve we were together though, and I was
Speaker 1: in Onyx just when Onyx was still in Dallas, and
Speaker 1: it was it was either Super Bowl or All Star something,
Speaker 1: but Honyx was packed, and I guess this little bit
Speaker 1: wasn't making no money in there, and she was mad.
Speaker 1: So she was just walking through the crowd of people,
Speaker 1: just pushing everybody and pushing them. And I had this
Speaker 1: coca cola because I don't drink. I had this Coca
Speaker 1: cola in my hand. She shoved into me, and the
Speaker 1: ship just spelled all over my damn outfit. I said,
Speaker 1: may need to watch where the fuck you going, nigga.
Speaker 1: Shut the fuck up. I gotta watch where the fuck
Speaker 1: I'm going, nigga. This is my club, nigga. Fuck. She
Speaker 1: put her hand in my face. Before I could even retaliate,
Speaker 1: Tasha just threw her drink in the bitch space boof
Speaker 1: and jump jumped on her and beat her ass. And
Speaker 1: I was just like, that was one of the situations
Speaker 1: I was glad she was there because it was like,
Speaker 1: I'm glad she was there to do something because I couldn't.
Speaker 1: I'm a man. All I could do is yell out
Speaker 1: there and make me look lame. I'm giving this bitch
Speaker 1: attention and shit. But she beat the bitch ass. So
Speaker 1: that was a time in the club where escalated with
Speaker 1: a woman shoutside Tasha. I do not condone violence, but
Speaker 1: I do condone self defense, let retaliation. Let me get
Speaker 1: Atasha her flowers though, because I don't, I don't do interviews.
Speaker 1: You you really do you hit me? So I did this? Yeah,
Speaker 1: my manager Tasha, she won't get a lot of respect
Speaker 1: as she should. We came from the bottom with this shit,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Nobody gave us a template.
Speaker 1: Nobody sounded like me in oh nine, and we made
Speaker 1: it all the way to the top. I've watched her
Speaker 1: beat up promoters, DJ's strippers and anybody that's played with
Speaker 1: this ship that we built. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: She's a psycho bitch, you know I'm saying. But she's
Speaker 1: one of the only women that I trust, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And a lot of artists don't get that, managers,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, love and respect, man, They
Speaker 1: just people think it's just the artists and all that
Speaker 1: contracts have to be read. Tasha's Lokia fucking lawyer. When
Speaker 1: I was finding sign to Columbia, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: I had my lawyer looking over the contract and I
Speaker 1: had Tasha looking over the contract. Tasha finished, She finished
Speaker 1: the contract before the lawyer, and the lawyer was like, Tasha,
Speaker 1: you really should practice law because you comb through that
Speaker 1: before and understood everything and brought points and things to
Speaker 1: me before I could finish it. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: So shot to Tasha, man like she's the best manager.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. She was a rapper. She
Speaker 1: quit rapping the manage me. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: So shot to Tasha. Shout out to Tasha and shout
Speaker 1: out to be king for John and to get old
Speaker 1: boys reloaded podcasts. Yes, sir, Yes sir, it's been a thriller.
Speaker 1: Brother's been a thrill. Ain't number leve on my n man.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Big og, triple og, salute
Speaker 1: to you to get all boys all that. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. You know what, Scott Bet you probably
Speaker 1: remember this my first time ever meeting you. I think
Speaker 1: it's before you had went to jail a little bit
Speaker 1: before that. We was in co Jack Studio. Coajack. Yeah, Coajack.
Speaker 1: You had on like this white dress shirt or something.
Speaker 1: I think we we we were we at his studio
Speaker 1: or was he at my or where were at my studio?
Speaker 1: You know, Jake used to work out of my studio.
Speaker 1: Maybe we was at yours. I know he had this
Speaker 1: purple MPC four thousand and he was saying he had
Speaker 1: these drums from koc Shott to Koca by the prom
Speaker 1: and I remember you. You were sitting on a couch
Speaker 1: and that's the first time I ever saw you and
Speaker 1: met you. I know you. I don't remember that, but
Speaker 1: I don't know who studio it was, but yeah it was.
Speaker 1: I can't remember exactly what. I know it was Cojack there,
Speaker 1: Okaya mog Potner say on them beats going down memory,
Speaker 1: laying on our way out of the door, No more talk.
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