1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: This is the business of sports where in the situation 2 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:06,400 Speaker 1: that we haven't dealt with in modern times, pandemic here 3 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:10,479 Speaker 1: has really accelerated the investments that we've been advocating for 4 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 1: for years. Almost everyone out there is hoping that there's 5 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:16,759 Speaker 1: some kind of return to normal by August September. In 6 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 1: depth conversations with the leaders in the sports industry. Who 7 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:22,800 Speaker 1: wants to be the sacrificial lambs that shows up at 8 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:25,640 Speaker 1: the first big major sporting events. We're part of something 9 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 1: much bigger than the sport right now, and the health 10 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 1: and safety of our stakeholders is both more important every moment. 11 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 1: I think we're all from business respective thinking about the 12 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 1: impact that the virus is having on across the country. 13 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Business of Sports from Bloomberg Radio, thanks so much 14 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 1: for joining us. We're here each and every week for 15 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 1: you at the same time talking to the biggest names 16 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:48,240 Speaker 1: in sports. I'm Jason Kelly along with Mike Lynch. Today 17 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 1: we're speaking with DC United co chairman and CEO Jason Levian. So, Jason, 18 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 1: so much going on, so much to talk to you about. 19 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 1: I guess let's start. We're to see some soccer before 20 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:05,120 Speaker 1: too long. How excited are you. Honestly, it's hard to believe. 21 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 1: It's a been a long time coming, but very excited. 22 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 1: Our guys are very pumped. We've been cleared in Team 23 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:15,760 Speaker 1: Washington to do uh folk team training, which was a 24 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:18,479 Speaker 1: long time coming. We were doing individual training and good training, 25 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 1: but now we're back doing folk team training. So everyone's 26 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:23,959 Speaker 1: pretty Jett, Jason, what do you think of this format here? 27 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 1: At This sort of reminds me a little bit of 28 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 1: the World Cup format or the Olympic Ice hockey format. 29 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 1: You play a little round robin with I think you're 30 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:35,319 Speaker 1: in there with New England, Montreal, and Toronto and then uh, 31 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:38,400 Speaker 1: sixteen survivors go to a knockout round. I think it's great. 32 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 1: I think it's really cool. I think I like the 33 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:42,199 Speaker 1: way they've set it up. UM. I think every every 34 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 1: team is going to get a you know, at least 35 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 1: three matches in um and uh the stakes are high, 36 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 1: um getting out of that group. You know, certainly getting 37 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 1: getting out of your group is going to be important, 38 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 1: um for your fans and and for morale around the 39 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 1: team after the long layoff. UM. So I think it's 40 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 1: a really cool format and I think it's going to 41 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 1: lead some exciting play, and um, I really like that 42 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 1: we're getting going. Think it's fortunately we're getting going earlier 43 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:10,959 Speaker 1: than some of the other US leagues, so we'll have 44 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:15,240 Speaker 1: an opportunity to newly showcase the league, uh, you know, 45 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 1: in the town, excitement around the league and the and 46 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 1: the play to fans and also hope it's new fans 47 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 1: as well. We haven't seen this before, so Jason, as 48 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:28,239 Speaker 1: you mentioned, you know, different sports certainly at very different 49 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:31,919 Speaker 1: places at this moment, given your intimate knowledge not only 50 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:35,640 Speaker 1: of soccer but also of the NBA. Assuming that the 51 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 1: NBA does get it all sorted out and get going here, 52 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:42,920 Speaker 1: what made it possible for those sports to get it 53 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 1: across the finish line versus say, where we are with 54 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:47,959 Speaker 1: Major League Baseball. Well, I feel I can get the 55 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 1: variety of factors. Um, I think you know the certainly 56 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:56,919 Speaker 1: the league relationship with its players association is important. Um, 57 00:02:56,960 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 1: there's so much uncertainty right now, Um, in terms of 58 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 1: health and safety and in terms of what's best you know, 59 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 1: sort of set process to ensure those things. And also, um, 60 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 1: you know what works from a pragmatic standpoint, And I 61 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 1: think that you know, while while there's a lot of 62 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 1: similarities between pro sports teams and their structure and their 63 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:22,079 Speaker 1: leagues and their relationship for their players, they are also 64 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 1: difference as of nuances, and so I think certainly those 65 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 1: have come into play. You know, I've been following what's 66 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:30,360 Speaker 1: going on in other sports, not just in the US 67 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:33,359 Speaker 1: but but around the world, and uh, you know, I'd 68 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 1: been trying to understand sort of what's what's working, with's 69 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 1: not working in terms of the dialogue, to try to 70 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 1: get everyone on the same page. So I think it's 71 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 1: a real credit to our ownership, to our commissioner UH 72 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 1: and our league and also our players that there's a 73 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 1: lot of passion around the sport of soccer and a 74 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 1: lot of momentum in the United States certainly, and I 75 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 1: can tell you from talking to the guys who are 76 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 1: reading the effort for DC United, but also the player 77 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 1: reps in MLS for other teams, Um, there's a real 78 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 1: excitement and desire to to sort of get out there 79 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 1: and distigurette a way to play UM which helps the 80 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 1: Tasty obviously at the forefront of anything they were going 81 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 1: to do. Jason, I want to follow up on that one. 82 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 1: Are the logistics that that are being laid out in 83 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 1: terms of hotel, how many members are of DC United 84 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:26,160 Speaker 1: and in addition to players, coaches, staff, etcetera, UM, how 85 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:30,039 Speaker 1: far a part of the lockers, etcetera, etcetera. That tell 86 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:31,679 Speaker 1: me all that things that are going to be different 87 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:33,920 Speaker 1: this time around. Well, that's interesting because you know it's 88 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:36,160 Speaker 1: a little bit of a moving to hardy. You know. 89 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 1: In other words, some of the protocols, the things that 90 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 1: were understood by experts may have been different and lead 91 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 1: equal than they were in late May and into June. 92 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:47,599 Speaker 1: Um as to what works and what doesn't work, UM 93 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 1: and UM, that's something that's thinking a lot of time. 94 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:53,159 Speaker 1: And so I think that you know, I know that 95 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:57,720 Speaker 1: the league hired UH an expert group of medical professionals 96 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 1: UM with infect this the expertise to sort of weigh 97 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 1: in on this, and UH the leadership and our lead 98 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 1: including joeann Niels, our TIEF administrative officers. Really it's got 99 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 1: a ton of time understanding that understanding what was going 100 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 1: to be most important safety wise through social distancing to uh, 101 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 1: you know, the teams together. I can tell you this, 102 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:22,360 Speaker 1: We're gonna have forty five members of our team players, 103 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:27,040 Speaker 1: staff and and and coaches in Orlando. UM. And originally 104 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:28,559 Speaker 1: we thought we were going to have to go down 105 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:31,720 Speaker 1: almost a month ahead of time. But now we've been 106 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:34,919 Speaker 1: clear to practice in our home market. So UM, that's 107 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 1: that's great. It's great for our our players to have 108 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:39,839 Speaker 1: more time at home. It's great for our coaches. UM. 109 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:42,839 Speaker 1: So now teams are going some teams are going down early, 110 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 1: but I think the majority teams are going down a 111 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 1: week before the tournament begins on July. Economically, Jason, what 112 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 1: does this mean for the league and maybe specifically for 113 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 1: for your team or is it more symbolic than economic? 114 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 1: How do you break that down? I think that, you know, 115 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 1: if you look at the economics in the short term, 116 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:08,360 Speaker 1: we're certainly a league. And I've been involved in the NBA, 117 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 1: I've been involved in soccer, you know, in in the UK, 118 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 1: um in the Premier League level. UM, we're certainly a 119 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 1: league that UM. I don't think it's a sequence that 120 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 1: right now our priceines our tickets, our sponsorship, our day 121 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 1: of team revenue, sees our meteorites. UM. And that's not 122 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 1: necessarily came to some other leagues like the Premier League, 123 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 1: So you know, not having fans all being in one 124 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 1: location UM stood out without a fan base there, UM. 125 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:43,480 Speaker 1: You know, without these the revenue for selling tickets in 126 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:48,279 Speaker 1: the day of game purchases, merchandise UM and food and beverage. 127 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 1: That's that's real limiting in some ways. UM. But I 128 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 1: think the bigger picture is what our league was focused on, UM, 129 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 1: which is that we've got so much momentum behind the 130 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 1: sports soccer in the United States, UM, so much power 131 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:05,360 Speaker 1: behind that that and so much invested in its success 132 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 1: that I think we're looking at this and saying, we 133 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 1: think we've got a terrific product that's only gotten better. Uh. Certainly, 134 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 1: I think the product has improved in the excitement around 135 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 1: it has improved in eight years that I've been involved 136 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 1: in Major League Soccer, let alone the twenty five years 137 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 1: that the least and around. And I think we looked 138 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 1: at it and said, we want to get our products 139 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 1: in front of not only our fan base, as I said, 140 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 1: but the nation and the world UM, and do it 141 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 1: as soon as possible in the safe way. So you know, 142 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 1: the economics behind that are can we capture more market share? 143 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 1: Can we get more people excited about resuming our play? 144 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 1: And I think we've got the wind in our back 145 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 1: UM in terms of the the interest level in Major 146 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 1: League Soccer over the past decade and certainly over the 147 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 1: last few years. UM. But this is a key that 148 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 1: came omen for us to showcase UH the league UM 149 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 1: and to showcase the the competition UM and the excitement 150 00:07:57,720 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 1: behind that. So that that's I think that's how we 151 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 1: did it more than just UM. You know, I get 152 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 1: blocking and tackling in terms of short term revenue UM, 153 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 1: but there are revenue opportunities because we're gonna have the 154 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 1: eyes of big nation in the world looking at US 155 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 1: UM and there's certainly Horvord partners that want to be 156 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 1: a part of that UM and UH. And that's been 157 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 1: interesting to see since we announced that we're having this tournament. UM, 158 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 1: since we've gotten the buy in from our players and 159 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 1: our league and our coaches, UM, we've gotten inbound calls 160 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 1: from companies that want to participate, that want exposure to 161 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 1: the competition. And I think that's a testament to the league. 162 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 1: It's a test them into the growth of soccer. I 163 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:40,959 Speaker 1: also think it's a testament into the dirk of live 164 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 1: sporting events right now, UM and and the opportunity before us. 165 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 1: So Jason right there in the backyard of your team, 166 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 1: the city where you live. Uh. It has been a 167 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 1: pretty phenomenal and at times scary time. UH help us 168 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 1: understand it from the perspective of an owner of businessman, 169 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 1: someone who cares about your city, cares about your players, 170 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 1: this is a complicated issue. I do wonder how you 171 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 1: approach it. Um, well, listen, I think I think the pandemic, Uh, 172 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:17,440 Speaker 1: it's certainly made this a scary time. UM. I think 173 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 1: that what's done on from a social justice and racial 174 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:27,559 Speaker 1: injustice perspective, UM, you know, around police brutality and around 175 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:33,440 Speaker 1: systemic racism is an opportunity. UM, it's it's you know, 176 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 1: it's something that I think has a has a chance. 177 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 1: They not only galvanize our city and our community right now, 178 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:43,440 Speaker 1: but I'm really hopeful that it's going to do a 179 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:46,840 Speaker 1: lot more than that in terms of implementing uh, surreal 180 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 1: change moving forward around the country. And so, UM, you know, 181 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:55,439 Speaker 1: this was a conversation that's been had, but but I 182 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 1: think not to certainly not to the level of the 183 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 1: extent that it needed to be has U And and 184 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 1: it's cold firmly in a crisis moment um. But but 185 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 1: when that crisis comes to this opportunity. And so you know, 186 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 1: I've been to dialogue and listening to our players and 187 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:13,560 Speaker 1: our front off the staff UM and people in our 188 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 1: community around issues of racial adjustice, police issues UM, and 189 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 1: I've learned a lot and I continue to reach out 190 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:26,680 Speaker 1: and learn more about it. I think our club as 191 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 1: a community has really come together UM in a very 192 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:33,560 Speaker 1: positive way. And so I feel, you know, I feel 193 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 1: a lot of warmth and excitement that that and helpfulness 194 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 1: that this can generate some real change that I think 195 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:43,199 Speaker 1: is critically hited in our society and and hit a 196 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 1: real tipping point over the past seeing Jason following up 197 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:49,319 Speaker 1: the word you keep using as opportunity, and I think 198 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 1: that's a great word that applies to your your sport 199 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 1: right now and for some of these nights when you're 200 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 1: on the MLS network, you're going to be the only 201 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 1: game in town. Are there any innovations you're going to 202 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 1: try to add to the sport? I know golf tried 203 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 1: to put a wireless microphone on on a couple of 204 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:06,960 Speaker 1: the golfers this weekend, just to attract some of those 205 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 1: peripheral fans that you know may become permanent fans. Here's 206 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 1: a great opportunity right now to get some of these 207 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 1: stray shape to come back or somebody that that really 208 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 1: is sort of on defense about following Major League soccer. 209 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 1: That's a great that's a great point. We're spending a 210 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:26,440 Speaker 1: lot of time and investment in resources on the broadcast, 211 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 1: on the camera angles on the interaction between the players 212 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 1: and the coaches and those watching to bring them closer 213 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:37,320 Speaker 1: to the action. And that's happening in real time right 214 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 1: now for the reasons that you said. One of the 215 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:42,080 Speaker 1: interestant things I will tell you is that you know, 216 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 1: as we studied the sport of soccer um in the 217 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 1: United States, what we realized is that they're eighty million 218 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:51,319 Speaker 1: soccer fans in the US. People are really passionate about 219 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 1: the sport um. So the opportunity is not just a 220 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:59,079 Speaker 1: convert fans of other sports shoe soccer. I think the 221 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 1: biggest oppertuny reading is take those soccer fans and make 222 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 1: them passion about major LESA. Some of them love Liga 223 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:07,839 Speaker 1: mex some of them love the Premier League or Bones 224 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 1: League UM and created our US soccer league, Major Leagaccer, 225 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 1: and I think a lot of our growth potentials is 226 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 1: very reals fans to fall love if they haven't already 227 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 1: uh with with the great competition in Major League Officer. 228 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 1: So yeah, in terms of the opportunity, it's in front 229 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 1: of us moving into uh this tournament UM and beyond UM. 230 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 1: And I, as I said, I think we have a 231 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:33,560 Speaker 1: lot of momentum. You know, I've been so bullish on 232 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:37,080 Speaker 1: the league, UM, in terms of the caliber of players, 233 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:39,439 Speaker 1: the caliber of ownership that's come in the league in 234 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 1: the last eight years. UM, even the folks at the 235 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:44,560 Speaker 1: league levels who joined the league. I think it's really 236 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:47,559 Speaker 1: taken and gone to a new level. UM. But this 237 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 1: is a lightning the model opportunity in front of us, 238 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 1: this tournament, UM, and the opportunity to sort of capture 239 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 1: people's pretensions in a way that we have in the forced. 240 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 1: Jason talked to us about what has gone on in Washington, 241 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 1: especially around your fan base, but also the physical plant 242 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 1: of Audie Field. I mean, this was a big deal. 243 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 1: I went to college in Washington, and I can tell 244 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 1: you that back in the nineties, not a lot of 245 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:19,320 Speaker 1: folks were excited to go to the part of town 246 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 1: where now is a vibrant area owing in part to 247 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:26,320 Speaker 1: to some of the things that that you have done. 248 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 1: Help us understand again some of the economics of that 249 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 1: the bets that you made and how much they've paid 250 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 1: off already or or you're still waiting to pay off. 251 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 1: That's that's that's a great point. I So I went 252 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 1: to college at George Town, UH, and I was here 253 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:44,560 Speaker 1: in the early nineties. And yes, the you know buzzer 254 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 1: point the waterfront was not an area you really wanted 255 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:50,200 Speaker 1: to set foot in unless you were you up to 256 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 1: no good. It was empty. Um, there wasn't a lot happening. UM. 257 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:57,320 Speaker 1: So it changed a lot. But when we got involved 258 00:13:57,360 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 1: with the team in shoot thousands of twelves, when I 259 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:02,720 Speaker 1: first invest in, you know, we had a big decision 260 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 1: to make it. You know, I knew that the team 261 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 1: was not going to thrive at RFK and that was 262 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 1: you know, we needed to turn the page and find 263 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 1: a new solution. UM. And I knew that the number 264 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 1: one thing we were going to do UM was going 265 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 1: to be making the determination as to where we were 266 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 1: going to build a stadium and how we were going 267 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 1: to get that done. And you know, I reached out, 268 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 1: certainly to the Mayor's office, Vincent Gray was the mayor 269 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 1: at the time, but Muriel Bowser was the mayor now 270 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 1: she was on the council and very much a leader 271 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 1: on the council. UM and we looked for locations UM 272 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 1: and you know, Buzzer Point was an area that came up. 273 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 1: There was another area across the river called Popper Point, 274 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 1: which is the other side of the Anticosti River wasn't 275 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 1: quite as convenient UM. But we really zeroed in this 276 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 1: location because it was near NAT Park and you know, 277 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 1: if you had enough vision even eight years ago, you 278 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 1: could see that the neighborhood was going to take off. 279 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 1: You know, the wharf was coming or weds between the 280 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 1: wharf and the Navy Arts, and you could kind of 281 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 1: see that there was some momentum UH for growth there, 282 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 1: although no one knew how long it was gonna take. 283 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 1: We also looked and talked with you know, I sent 284 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 1: time talking to the governor and the Maryland Stadium Authority 285 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 1: about an opportunities in Malan and UH the Governor McCall 286 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 1: it UM and its predecessor in Virginia about opportunity there. 287 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 1: I think we made the determination that UM the long 288 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 1: term value of DC United UM and its impact in 289 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 1: the community was gonna be much greater if we had 290 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:37,560 Speaker 1: an urban location. UM. And that was a hard decision 291 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 1: because and the reason I bring it up is because 292 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 1: it would have been a lot easier from a political standpoint, 293 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 1: from a financial standpoint, UM, to locate the stadium somewhere 294 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 1: in Maryland or Virginia. UM, there's more lands available. It 295 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 1: was a little less complicated, uh in terms of getting 296 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 1: a deal done. Uh there's public financing available there. UM. 297 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 1: That is a different and instructure that it would be 298 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 1: in industry of Columbia. UM. Just that being said, I 299 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 1: think we gave us the most confident about DC was 300 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 1: was certainly number one UM the locations, which we loved. 301 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 1: But number two was the commitment. And you can see 302 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 1: the passion and the energy uh from Mayor Bowser um 303 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 1: and her team. UM and may have Gray before and 304 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 1: his team, and also the council members that really wanted 305 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 1: to see the captain. And you know, how do we 306 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 1: not had a committed partner on the other side that said, listen, 307 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 1: we're gonna do it's best for tradition of Columbia. It's residents. 308 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 1: But you know, part of that is bringing you guys 309 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 1: into the mix and finding a solution for you. If 310 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 1: we hadn't have that committed partner, I think I would 311 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 1: have had to have looked else with UM. But we 312 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 1: we locked arms and certainly there was a lot of 313 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 1: back and forwards about the terms which were SAIL and 314 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 1: about the timing UM and who was going to pay 315 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 1: for what UM and how we were going to get 316 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 1: to steal done. But for the real public private partnership 317 00:16:57,560 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 1: came together UM. And in the middle of that, just 318 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 1: to point out, we had a change in mayor. As 319 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 1: I said, we had mayors are going from the council 320 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 1: through the mayor's office, and she brought in a new 321 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:10,200 Speaker 1: administrative team and she wrote in some green people UM 322 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 1: and UH. I think Vincent granted to rific people on 323 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 1: his team as well. But anytime you have new new 324 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 1: leadership come in, UM. They took a fresh look at 325 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 1: our deal and I had to make sure it was 326 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 1: it was good for the district and good for for 327 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:25,960 Speaker 1: everyone involved, and so that took time. UM and I 328 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:30,159 Speaker 1: would say that persistence and patients were really important in 329 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:32,920 Speaker 1: getting something like this done to put a stadium downtown, 330 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 1: and you talk about the economics of it, UM, I 331 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 1: think it's a game changer for us from in terms 332 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 1: of having real estate in the fastest growing neighborhood in 333 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:44,240 Speaker 1: Washington U, which wasn't a change when you and I 334 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 1: were there twenty five plus years ago. But you know, 335 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 1: this area is booming. It's gonna be the most densely 336 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:54,640 Speaker 1: populated area in the next ten years in Washington. UM. 337 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:56,919 Speaker 1: It's a lot of young professionals who are living in 338 00:17:56,920 --> 00:18:00,440 Speaker 1: the area, but it's a real diverse group of people, UM. 339 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:03,640 Speaker 1: And I think it's it's changed our business, has changed. 340 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:06,919 Speaker 1: Our ability to connect with fans in DC, it's changed. 341 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:09,679 Speaker 1: It's added new fans. UM. You know, we were a 342 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:13,159 Speaker 1: club that was a legacy club that we started and 343 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:16,160 Speaker 1: with a great core fan base. But what we needed 344 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:18,119 Speaker 1: to do is keep that core fan base and treat 345 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 1: them really well, but also extended UM generationally and just 346 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 1: around the district. And I think we've done that. Being 347 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 1: an alley field, we've sort of put ourselves, put a 348 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:31,199 Speaker 1: stamp on the on on the clubs uh that it 349 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 1: was going in a new direction UM and that and 350 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:36,199 Speaker 1: we embraced new people that way in new fans, and 351 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:39,399 Speaker 1: so from an economic standpoint, that's that's sort of been 352 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:42,440 Speaker 1: the driver. We brought on a lot of new quoture partners, 353 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:44,719 Speaker 1: you know, uh, folks like ality, who has been an 354 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:47,960 Speaker 1: awesome partner. You know, really weren't excited about partnering with 355 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 1: us in our state stadium for understand dable reasons. The 356 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 1: building was you know, fifty plus years old and there 357 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 1: wasn't that opportunity to activate or a neighborhood around it. 358 00:18:56,840 --> 00:18:59,639 Speaker 1: With the newness of a stadium where we could you know, 359 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 1: have a premium seating and have different kinds of experiences 360 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 1: for fans. Um. So that was a big thing. We 361 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 1: brought on Eagle Bank. We brought in other partners as well, 362 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 1: um that are really critical to a business. So all 363 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 1: of that, I guess to say that we know quadrupled 364 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 1: our season ticket holder numbers, um, which is a great thing. Um, 365 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 1: we got a long way to go. We see this 366 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:24,400 Speaker 1: as the beginning of the process for us in terms 367 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:28,159 Speaker 1: of growing our business and becoming even more relevant and 368 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:30,919 Speaker 1: having a bigger impact on the d m V. You know, 369 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 1: I think that's a great idea to get to get 370 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:36,600 Speaker 1: into an urban area, get people use public transportation to 371 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 1: get to get to your event, and also to downsize 372 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 1: these stadiums. Now, I'm up here in Boston. The Revolution 373 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 1: play at Chillette Stadium sixty eight thousand. They could get 374 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 1: thirty thousand people, which is a heck of a crowd, 375 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 1: but you know, the upper deck, I gotta put canvas 376 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:52,439 Speaker 1: on there so it doesn't feel like they're playing in 377 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 1: front of a capacity crowd. But when you get you know, 378 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 1: you build a made for soccer stadium with a capacity 379 00:19:57,760 --> 00:20:00,879 Speaker 1: of thirty thirty five thousand, you know, it's an intimate sport. 380 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:03,400 Speaker 1: The people feel closer and more connected to the players. 381 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:06,119 Speaker 1: And I think that was just an ingenious move by you. 382 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 1: And I do see more teams like the revs of 383 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 1: somebody trying to get an urban location and downsizing the 384 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 1: stadium making it solely for soccer. I think so I 385 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:18,840 Speaker 1: think that's common in Boston, I really do. And I 386 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 1: think one of the things that Major League Soccer needs 387 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:25,119 Speaker 1: to get right, UM that it's working hard at is 388 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:28,119 Speaker 1: some of the bigger markets around the country where you 389 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 1: could have the biggest impact. UM, you know, need either 390 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:35,400 Speaker 1: new stadiums or have challenges around where their stadium location 391 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:37,639 Speaker 1: is that need work, UM. And I know that the 392 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:39,879 Speaker 1: league is very dedicated to focusing on that. You know, 393 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 1: for example, not just Boston Chicago. Uh the stadium they 394 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 1: had played that prior to this last year, UH with 395 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 1: outside the city in Bridgeview. UM they've now moved to 396 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:53,200 Speaker 1: downtown to play at Soldier Field and more Soldier Field, 397 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 1: but much larger than you in downtown Chicago and a 398 00:20:56,560 --> 00:21:00,359 Speaker 1: great sports town like austen Is Chicago is how I 399 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 1: think you connect with a fan base in a different way. 400 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 1: But I I would venture that you're you're right that 401 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 1: you know, the next several years of Major League Soccer, 402 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:11,920 Speaker 1: you're going to see teams like the Revs, the Revs 403 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 1: and also the Fire in soccer specific stadiums, you know, 404 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 1: in urban areas, because I think that's that's going to 405 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 1: be a real seat of the growth of the league 406 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 1: and in those markets, the growth of their families. So Jason, 407 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:26,239 Speaker 1: before we let you go, got to ask you, you know, 408 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:30,879 Speaker 1: you have a fascinating career as an athlete, a lawyer, UH, 409 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 1: involved in a number of different sports. What else is 410 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:36,719 Speaker 1: on the horizon for you? You're a young guy, and 411 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 1: I do wonder, you know what what the next big 412 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 1: project is? Is it a different sport? I know you've 413 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:45,360 Speaker 1: gotten involved in the Premiership as well. So you're very 414 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:48,560 Speaker 1: dedicated to soccer at the moment. But what what sort 415 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 1: of strikes you as a big growth areas you look 416 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:54,879 Speaker 1: around in sports. Well, I'll say I have. UM. I 417 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 1: spent fifteen or twenty years focused on basketball, which was 418 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:01,920 Speaker 1: my first love. Uh you know. I was an agent 419 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 1: representing players, um I uh you know, then played to 420 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 1: the front office of a couple of teams and then 421 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 1: put investment groups together to buying and hopefully running the 422 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:13,960 Speaker 1: grizzling steps. I put a group together to buy that team. UM. 423 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 1: The last eight years, I've been all in on soccer. 424 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:20,480 Speaker 1: When I saw the opportunity d United, I jumped at it. 425 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 1: I'm certainly got involved in the Premier League as well, 426 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:27,399 Speaker 1: and in the Championship in May and in soccer. UM. 427 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:31,119 Speaker 1: I believe that in terms of live sporting events and 428 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:35,400 Speaker 1: live sports, I really love where basketball and where soccer 429 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 1: is permissions because in a little bit democratic nature of 430 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:42,960 Speaker 1: the sports, because of the international connectivity and growth UM, 431 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:44,879 Speaker 1: and I think there's a lot of upside there. So 432 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 1: you know, I'm starting my ninth season at d C United, 433 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:51,399 Speaker 1: and for me, this is a real passion. This is 434 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 1: something that I think has the opportunity to grow tremendously 435 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 1: even from where it is. I've seeing the growth of 436 00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:00,199 Speaker 1: the last eight or nine years, but I hate the 437 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 1: next nine years as we get towards the World Cup, UM, 438 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 1: where the US is going to be a host country. UM, 439 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 1: I think You're gonna see even a greater spike in 440 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 1: interest around the sport and around the league. So I'm 441 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:16,000 Speaker 1: very focused on that. UM. I see that as a 442 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 1: big part of my career and my career legacy is 443 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 1: the things that I'm doing UM. And I love the 444 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:24,119 Speaker 1: district of Columbia. It's been a great plate for me. 445 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 1: As I said, I was a college student to Washington 446 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 1: here UM and being a part of the United sort 447 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:32,720 Speaker 1: of growth trajectory to the next level. Uh, it's something 448 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:34,440 Speaker 1: that means a lot to me. So beyond that, I 449 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:36,920 Speaker 1: don't I'm not really sure. I wake up every day 450 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:38,800 Speaker 1: loving what I'm doing. I love being a part of 451 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:42,119 Speaker 1: the team that I worked. Talked to our general manager, coach, 452 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 1: you know, every day. I speak to our my ownership partner, 453 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:49,120 Speaker 1: Steed Capitan on a daily basis UM and our business 454 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 1: team here in Washington. So I spent a lot of 455 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 1: time on that, and I really enjoy it, um, and 456 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:56,320 Speaker 1: I enjoy the other investments I've made in sports. UM. 457 00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:58,359 Speaker 1: But but as you pointed out, I think software and 458 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 1: basketball are the areas with I've had the most experience 459 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:05,920 Speaker 1: and the most knowledge and and thinkers, so a lot 460 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:08,960 Speaker 1: of growth in both of them. Well, two sports that 461 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:12,720 Speaker 1: seemed to be ascendant at the moment, and it feels 462 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 1: like it's not an accident that those are the two 463 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 1: that were able to sort of pull it together. And uh, 464 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:20,120 Speaker 1: hopefully get to Orlando and we'll be talking to you, 465 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:23,160 Speaker 1: I hope as all of this goes on. Jason Levy, 466 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:25,159 Speaker 1: and thank you so much, d C United co chairman 467 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:29,680 Speaker 1: and CEO. Thanks guys, thanks for having so Lynchi really 468 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:32,399 Speaker 1: interesting guy. I'm sure, like me, you read up on 469 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:34,200 Speaker 1: his background. I mean, you know, this is a guy 470 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 1: I played some college ball, actually transferred from Georgetown, went 471 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 1: to Pomona so he could play, and you know it 472 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:43,879 Speaker 1: kind of works his way through the agent world and 473 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:48,200 Speaker 1: he's a dealmaker ultimately and was involved in the Sixers, 474 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:50,920 Speaker 1: then the Grizzlies, and now this seems to be where 475 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:54,119 Speaker 1: he where he's really focused. Hard to bet against him. Well, 476 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:56,200 Speaker 1: what really stood off for me. Is something he didn't say, 477 00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:57,879 Speaker 1: but I found out, and I'm sure you found out 478 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:01,359 Speaker 1: in your research. Then when he was with the Memphis Grizzlies, 479 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:04,919 Speaker 1: they were ranked the number one pro sports franchise in 480 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:09,200 Speaker 1: North America, the Memphis Grizzlies over the Dallas Cowboys, over 481 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:15,240 Speaker 1: the New York Yankees, the Memphis Grizzlies. I said it, 482 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:21,399 Speaker 1: so you wouldn't have to, I know, I know. No, 483 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 1: really interesting, I mean, and that I think under his 484 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:26,639 Speaker 1: watch they made the Western Conference Finals, the Grizzlies did 485 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 1: so yeah, really interesting guy, and and listen the and 486 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:31,280 Speaker 1: we I was glad we got a chance to talk 487 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:35,080 Speaker 1: to him about it too. The choice to put that 488 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:38,359 Speaker 1: stadium where they did in d C, which I'm sure 489 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:41,359 Speaker 1: you know as well as I do, was bold, to 490 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:45,119 Speaker 1: say the least. Absolutely, it's a big risk. Uh. It 491 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:47,400 Speaker 1: could have been a bomb, it could have been a disaster. 492 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:49,879 Speaker 1: But it worked out. And I think it's a model 493 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:52,000 Speaker 1: for future teams. All these teams that are playing in 494 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 1: these football stadiums, uh, outside of of urban areas. I 495 00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:59,160 Speaker 1: think the way that that MLS is going to succeed 496 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:01,879 Speaker 1: is a small all the venue in the middle of 497 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:04,879 Speaker 1: the city and he's with the perfect model. 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