1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:04,760 Speaker 1: First Date follow Up powered by the Advocates Injury Attorneys 2 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 1: online at Advocateslaw dot com. 3 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:09,440 Speaker 2: Gabe is on the phone today for a first day 4 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:12,319 Speaker 2: follow up and he's getting ghosted by a woman named Harper. 5 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 2: So in a few minutes we'll call her and see 6 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 2: if she'll tell us why she's ghosting him and maybe 7 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 2: get him a second date. But first, Gabe, how long 8 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 2: has it been since you heard from. 9 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:25,079 Speaker 3: Harper's In like a week? And I think I know 10 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:25,960 Speaker 3: why I was ghosted? 11 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:26,760 Speaker 2: Oh really? 12 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 3: Oh sure? 13 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, tell us about the date first, and then 14 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 2: tell us why you think you're getting ghosted. 15 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 4: I mean, for well, first of all, it was late 16 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 4: to the date, so right there. Oh yeah, like thirty 17 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 4: minutes late. And I know that's bad. But so I 18 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 4: was helping my neighbor move a couch and the whole 19 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 4: morning just slipped away, like I just lost a sense 20 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 4: of my sense of time. But I texted her. I 21 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 4: told her what was going on, and I apologized. And 22 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 4: when I ran to get there, like as soon as 23 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 4: I realized what the. 24 00:00:56,840 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 2: Time was, So okay, did she wait for you? 25 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 3: Yeah? 26 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 4: She waited, which I did not expect. I don't know 27 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:04,479 Speaker 4: if I would have done that. 28 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 3: Half hour. 29 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 5: But yeah, but okay, so you're trying to make up 30 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:11,760 Speaker 5: for being late, and she waited for you. 31 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, she waited and she stayed and we had uh 32 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 4: so the day was we had we had coffee this 33 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 4: cute little spot, and then after that she says she 34 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:24,959 Speaker 4: wanted to hit up this ping pong bar nearby, and 35 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:28,120 Speaker 4: she's so into ping pong, Like I didn't even know 36 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 4: that was a thing. I think I had never heard 37 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 4: of ping pong bar. Like she lit up when we 38 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 4: got there. We played a few games and we got 39 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:39,680 Speaker 4: some prize, and honestly, I thought we were vibing, like 40 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 4: she was laughing. 41 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 3: She was. 42 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 4: She was so cute, she was trash talking. 43 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 3: It was really really cute. She was cool. 44 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 4: She's really cool, And I was trying to redeem myself 45 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 4: for being late, you know, like trying to make up 46 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 4: for it, right. 47 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 3: I thought I did. 48 00:01:57,000 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 4: I don't know, though, because now she's not answer me, 49 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 4: and I can't stop thinking about her, because it's like 50 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 4: it's rare that I meet someone like her, Like she 51 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 4: has this great energy, she's smart. 52 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 6: She didn't make me. 53 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:11,800 Speaker 4: Feel like I had to be anything. I'm not, Like, 54 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:14,959 Speaker 4: I was just who I was, which is so comfortable as. 55 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 2: Being late the reason you think you're getting ghosted. 56 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, I did, I just blow it beyond repair. Or 57 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 4: maybe she was just busy, Like I don't like, I 58 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:27,639 Speaker 4: was helping my friend and I just lost track of time. 59 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 4: That's kind of careless. But I felt like I explained 60 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 4: it all well. 61 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 5: So then what else happened? So you guys played ping pong? Like, 62 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 5: did you guys kiss? Did you guys decide that you're 63 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:38,080 Speaker 5: going to have another date? 64 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 3: No, was sort of just like talk to you soon? 65 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:45,080 Speaker 2: Like did it end like you thought maybe she was 66 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 2: like upset or didn't really have a good time. 67 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 4: No, I don't. I didn't think she was upset. Like 68 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 4: if she did, it wasn't into me. Why would we 69 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 4: go to the pink pong bar and like we hung 70 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 4: out there for a while. 71 00:02:57,639 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 5: I mean, unless I just used her to take her 72 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:01,960 Speaker 5: to a ping pong because she really likes ping pong. Way, 73 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 5: this guy doesn't know how to be on time, but 74 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 5: I'm gonna get some ping pong out of it. 75 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 4: Maybe maybe I didn't say that, though I don't know. 76 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 4: I just don't not like even if I don't know, 77 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 4: it's been maybe she's busy. But that's also why I'm 78 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:18,520 Speaker 4: calling you, guys, is like I just want to know, 79 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:21,640 Speaker 4: because it's the hard part about being ghosted is not 80 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 4: knowing totally. 81 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:24,640 Speaker 5: But did you reach out to her then, so like 82 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 5: this is an obvious ghosting? Or was the last time 83 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:27,920 Speaker 5: you talked to her on the date? 84 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 3: That is, the last time I talked to her was 85 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:31,400 Speaker 3: on the date. 86 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 4: Okay, it's been over a week, just over and the 87 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 4: last time I text him was yesterday. 88 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 2: Well, we'll see if we can figure it out for you. Okay, 89 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 2: play a song, come back, and then call her and 90 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 2: see if she'll tell us why she's ghosting you and 91 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 2: maybe get you a second date. 92 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 3: Thank you? 93 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 2: All right, we'll get your first day follow up, next. 94 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 1: First date follow up powered by the Advocates Injury Attorneys 95 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 1: online at Advocateslaw dot com. 96 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 2: Right in the middle of today's first day follow up, 97 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 2: And if you're just joining us, Gabe is on the 98 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 2: phone and we're about to call Harper who's ghosting him, 99 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 2: and see if she'll tell us why she's ghosting him 100 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 2: and maybe get him a second date. But first, Gabe, 101 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 2: why don't you refresh our memory and your situation real quick. 102 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 1: Yes. 103 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 4: So I went out on a day with this awesome person. 104 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:16,719 Speaker 4: She's super cool, she's super sweet. 105 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:19,479 Speaker 3: I thought we vibed, but I was late to the date. 106 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 4: Like half an hour, and I felt bad about that, 107 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 4: and I felt like I tried to make up for it, 108 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 4: but we hung out for a while, and now she 109 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 4: won't answer my text. So I don't know what's going on. 110 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 2: Okay, now you ready? Yeah? All right, here we go. Hello, Hi, man, 111 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 2: I speak to Harper. Please. 112 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 6: Hi. 113 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 2: This is hey Harper. How are you? This is a 114 00:04:58,160 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 2: radio show. It's called The Jubile Show. 115 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:00,600 Speaker 5: H I'm Nina. 116 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 2: Hi, I'm Victoria and my name is Jubal. How are you. 117 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:08,359 Speaker 6: I'm good, I'm confused, I'm good. 118 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 2: Have you ever listened to The Jubil Show before? 119 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 6: Yeah? 120 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:13,039 Speaker 2: Oh cool? 121 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 6: And I'm like, I don't know what you could be 122 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 6: calling me for. 123 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 2: Well, we do a segment on the show called the 124 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:22,479 Speaker 2: First Date follow Up, where if you go out with 125 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:25,279 Speaker 2: somebody and then you end up ghosting them, that person 126 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:28,840 Speaker 2: can email us. Familiar with that, I've heard it, yeah, 127 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 2: oh yeah, So is there anybody you can think of 128 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 2: that would email us about you? 129 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 6: Unfortunately? Yeah? 130 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:38,599 Speaker 2: What's their name? 131 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:40,719 Speaker 6: Gabe? 132 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 2: Right, Yes it is. Gabe emailed us, told us a 133 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 2: little bit about your date and says that he's very confused. 134 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:50,840 Speaker 2: He liked you a lot. I thought you guys had 135 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 2: a great time. Would you mind telling us why you're 136 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:53,160 Speaker 2: ghosting him? 137 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 7: I mean, yeah, I ghosted him, like I don't want 138 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 7: to be rude, but like, honestly, I didn't know what 139 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 7: else to do like this, the whole situation just seemed 140 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:12,599 Speaker 7: really scammy scammy. Yeah, I mean okay, So first he 141 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 7: showed up thirty minutes late, which like rude, but I 142 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 7: can deal with it. 143 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:18,280 Speaker 6: I get it. 144 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:20,919 Speaker 7: I run late sometimes too, and like if the vibes 145 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 7: are there, it's fine. Whatever. And so we were hanging 146 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 7: out and then we decided to go play. 147 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 6: King Pong and then we get there, oh my goodness, 148 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 6: surprised he lost his wallet trying to get to this 149 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 6: day again. I don't mind, king, I. 150 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 7: Just just be upfront about it, be like I you 151 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 7: know it, don't like make it like I lost it, 152 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:52,280 Speaker 7: Be like, oh, I you know, like I'm was running late. 153 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 7: I left it behind and it mean too, or like 154 00:06:55,839 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 7: just be like can you pay? You know, don't make 155 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 7: a thing about it, and so fine, whatever I paid 156 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 7: for everything because he didn't have any money on him, 157 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 7: which is not the deal breaker, the deal breaker. 158 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 2: Wise, I mean it could be, but yeah, no. 159 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 6: No, no, there's more. 160 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 7: On the way out, we're like saying goodbye, and then 161 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 7: he's like, oh my gosh, don't have any groceries at home? 162 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 6: Can can you be one hundred dollars. 163 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 2: Dollars for groceries? 164 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 7: And he was like, I gotta feed myself and my cat. 165 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 7: I didn't even know that he had a cat. First off, 166 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 7: didn't mention the cat beats time we were together, but 167 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 7: also like, what what can I use from a grocery store? 168 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 2: Like if you know, did you give him the money? 169 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 2: Who asks for that? 170 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 7: I didn't give him one hundred dollars. I'm not stupid. 171 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 7: But I also was like I need to get out 172 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 7: of this situation, and like he's not gonna let up. 173 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 6: So it was like, I don't one hundred dollars, so 174 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 6: like I have fifty. 175 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 2: You cave him fifty. 176 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 7: I had to get away. I had to get away. Okay, 177 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 7: you do what you gotta do. 178 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 2: Oh wow? Ok. 179 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 7: On the way home, like I just kept replaying everything, 180 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 7: I was like, are you serious? He's wait he doesn't 181 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 7: have his wallet. He asks for money like, now, I'm 182 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 7: an ATM for a stranger in there. 183 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. I've been used a lot for money in relationships. Yeah, 184 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 2: and I've never had anybody just ask for it on 185 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 2: the first date. It's a long game, you know. Then 186 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 2: you realize they're just they're just here. Something gets tough, my. 187 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 6: Cat, you can't need the groceries. 188 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 2: I'm like, no, wow, okay, well, thank you for telling us. 189 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 2: I'm sorry. And I don't know if you forgot or not, 190 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 2: but Gabe is on the phone and wants to talk 191 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 2: to you. 192 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:57,199 Speaker 7: Oh I would love to hear what he has to say. 193 00:08:57,280 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 4: A harper I okay, so that all sounds bad. 194 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 7: Like no, Harbor, No, I'm sorry, Okay, no, don't harper me, Like, 195 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 7: come on, I just told Harbor. 196 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:14,680 Speaker 4: I told you i'd pay you back with interest. I 197 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:16,959 Speaker 4: was just I was like in a pinch, and you 198 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:18,720 Speaker 4: were like this angel who shows up at. 199 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 2: The right time? 200 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 6: An angel? Wow? What a like? 201 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 7: What a beautiful, like literally sparkly way to say manipulation? 202 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 4: Come on, No, I just needed help. I even borrowed 203 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:35,080 Speaker 4: money from my neighbor after that. I swear it was 204 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:38,200 Speaker 4: not a setup. Okay, here's the thing. Like you could 205 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 4: have gone home and gotten your wallet. 206 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 7: You could have gone like you could have used Apple pay, 207 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 7: Like there were other options that you could have done 208 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 7: other than asking a woman that you literally just met. 209 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:51,440 Speaker 6: Were you minding? 210 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:55,560 Speaker 4: Like, come on, wow, Harper, I guess I just didn't 211 00:09:55,559 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 4: realize you're so materialistic, care so much about money. 212 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:04,680 Speaker 7: I don't care about money, but I care about like 213 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:07,119 Speaker 7: I don't respect and like basic human. 214 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 6: Decency like I don't. 215 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 7: I don't understand why that's the hard I said I 216 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 7: would pay you back. 217 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 3: Isn't that decent? 218 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:19,079 Speaker 7: I don't need you to pay me back. Actually, you 219 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:20,559 Speaker 7: can keep the money. 220 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:23,080 Speaker 2: I just want to make sure, Harper, would you like 221 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 2: another day with Gabe and we will pay for it. 222 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:29,200 Speaker 7: You get no, no, no, save your money, Save your money. 223 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 7: You can keep the fifty dollars. It's a donation to 224 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 7: the chaos that you have going on. 225 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 3: Oh my god, we'll find my Harper. 226 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 7: To get out of having to deal with that again. 227 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 7: So it's it's money well off? 228 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 3: All right? 229 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 4: Well fine, Harper, I was gonna pay you back to 230 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 4: fifty bucks, but you gave me. 231 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 3: But good luck finding you're mister rich man. Or whatever 232 00:10:55,679 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 3: you're looking for. Okay, it even want like a bank account. 233 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 2: Person bank account, people that have money in it. Yeah. 234 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:09,439 Speaker 6: Yeah. 235 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 2: Jubile's First Date follow up