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Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, Bobby. Here, I'm going to play something that

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Speaker 1: Cherry Valley, and I think a lot of people were surprised,

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Speaker 1: the Year. Here is Carter Faith. Carter Faith. Hello, Hello, Bobby.

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Speaker 1: What what cities were we together?

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Speaker 2: We were in Wichital for two nights. I remember that

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember you being really good, and I know

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Speaker 1: who I didn't I purposefully did not ask tofer who

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Speaker 1: produces rites accurate for you?

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Speaker 2: He produces music.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know if you're write with

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Speaker 1: And so you're awesome. Thank you, And I hope that

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Speaker 1: my people were really nice to you.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, it was so fun. I thought your

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Speaker 2: It was so good and it was honestly, like really touching.

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Speaker 2: It was awesome.

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Speaker 1: Thanks. And So what's funny about you is that in

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Speaker 2: I definitely do. I think, you know. I I think

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Speaker 2: I come off as self spoken. I'm really like I'm

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I it probably sounds weird for me to say

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a weird thing to explain because obviously we

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Speaker 1: I'm wildly introverted. I am too until it's time to work,

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Speaker 2: It's like that one tiny part of yourself that can

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Speaker 1: Quiet kid or a loud kid. What were you like

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Speaker 2: Yes, because they made it to the elite age.

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Speaker 1: Went to all Lipscomb basketball game. Don't have to be

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Speaker 2: Yes, and put themselves aside. Really every single second of

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Speaker 2: Yes, I feel. I've seen like people give their babies

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Speaker 2: Wee? So elementary school was pretty small. Like I think

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Speaker 2: And I mean it's awesome now we're all like best friends.

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Speaker 1: Right, at anytime that you want to do something that

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Speaker 1: They what do you think they saw on you so early?

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Speaker 1: Then if you were I won't say reluctant, because if

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Speaker 2: They saw that I was. It was fear, you know,

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Speaker 2: because again I was super quiet. My mom always called

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Speaker 2: me cautious growing up, like my little brother. If we

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Speaker 2: So I was so scared to be on any stage

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Speaker 1: That's like people that freestyle but they already have it

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Speaker 1: They're like, let me lay this down, let me go

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Speaker 2: No, I'm such a liar.

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Speaker 3: Hang Ty, the Bobby Cast will be right back. Wow,

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Speaker 1: Did you write it home at all?

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Speaker 1: Basically, did you then do it more because they weren't

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think acknowledging that it exists more than working

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Speaker 1: when you like? I like you as a person, and

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Speaker 1: again we've spent some time together outside of this. I

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Speaker 2: Way, that's hilarious. I feel like someone on my team

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Speaker 2: I'm sure you feel this way too. There's nothing like

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Speaker 2: and you're just there with them as humans. That's like

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Speaker 1: How about the vulnerability in music when you write the

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Speaker 1: Like that's what I say too, Like I'm full of

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Speaker 1: Just how that's the obviously that's the microphone. For me,

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Speaker 2: I totally get that even.

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Speaker 1: Though it's real, Yes, it's not real. I would never

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Speaker 1: I Nope, no, I this is the Superman Kate.

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00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:20,960
Speaker 2: Yes, like events here are my hell, absolute hell. I

442
00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:23,760
Speaker 2: will be in the corner the entire time, sucking down

443
00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:25,560
Speaker 2: a drink, not talking to anyone.

444
00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:28,280
Speaker 1: Do you ever think people feel And I ask this

445
00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:30,920
Speaker 1: because I get this about me. People feel because you're

446
00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:34,040
Speaker 1: like that that maybe you're rude, yes, and they're like, oh,

447
00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:36,760
Speaker 1: she thinks she's too good, when in reality it's like

448
00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:38,040
Speaker 1: I don't want to bother anybody.

449
00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:41,320
Speaker 2: Yes, I'm like, like I went on, this is such

450
00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:43,320
Speaker 2: a stupid story. But I went out on the road

451
00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:45,960
Speaker 2: with my friend Ella Langley. I got to open two

452
00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:48,000
Speaker 2: shows for like two weeks ago, and she let me

453
00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:50,320
Speaker 2: ride her bus. That is so nice. A lot of

454
00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:53,840
Speaker 2: people do not do that. I'm like, I'm exhausted getting

455
00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:57,800
Speaker 2: home from this because my whole, like self dialogue was

456
00:20:57,840 --> 00:20:59,160
Speaker 2: am I in the way? Am I in the way?

457
00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:01,280
Speaker 2: When they asked me to come? That's how I feel,

458
00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:03,159
Speaker 2: That's literally how my brain works.

459
00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:07,720
Speaker 1: Did when when you did Kansas with us? Did I

460
00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:08,959
Speaker 1: offer free to fly back with us?

461
00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:10,159
Speaker 2: I don't know.

462
00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:11,520
Speaker 1: I think you had too many people would not enough

463
00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:12,560
Speaker 1: seats because I think I did.

464
00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:13,919
Speaker 2: I'm sure you did, and I'm sure I was.

465
00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:15,960
Speaker 1: Like, what I wondered, That's what I wonder when I

466
00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:20,120
Speaker 1: said that was if you ended up saying because I

467
00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:22,400
Speaker 1: we flew back, and I know, I was like, hey,

468
00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:25,119
Speaker 1: save if Carter wants to fly back with us. But

469
00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:28,800
Speaker 1: then you had a player and maybe so I was like,

470
00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:32,240
Speaker 1: but even but even then, it's like, but I feel

471
00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:36,040
Speaker 1: the same way. Yeah, unless I'm really close to them

472
00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:39,840
Speaker 1: or I'm like supposed to be on I totally get it,

473
00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:41,920
Speaker 1: because otherwise I feel like I'm just in the way,

474
00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:43,840
Speaker 1: why would anybody want to hang out with me?

475
00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:47,120
Speaker 2: Yes? Why do we hate ourselves like this?

476
00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:52,119
Speaker 1: It's such an insecurity though, that creates what we're able

477
00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:54,600
Speaker 1: to do at the same time. So when I started

478
00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:56,720
Speaker 1: going to therapy, and when I started really getting to therapy,

479
00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:57,800
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't want to get too therapy

480
00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:00,399
Speaker 1: because I don't want to lose my superviowse And he

481
00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:01,879
Speaker 1: was like, don't be an idiot. Don't be an idiot.

482
00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:05,200
Speaker 1: He's like, he's like, you're so broken, don't write about it.

483
00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:06,199
Speaker 1: You're still gonna be.

484
00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:07,359
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna be able to fix you.

485
00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:10,560
Speaker 1: You graduated school here I did. Yeah, why'd you want

486
00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:13,200
Speaker 1: to quit so many times? Like? What was the was

487
00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:15,439
Speaker 1: it to do music? Was it? You just tied to school?

488
00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:18,119
Speaker 2: I think Also when I got to town, I was

489
00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:20,800
Speaker 2: like there was a quiet confidence in me where I

490
00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:23,000
Speaker 2: was like, oh, I'm good at this. I have to

491
00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:28,359
Speaker 2: send me So I started writing. That's another thing about

492
00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:31,280
Speaker 2: my family. My dad is like, you're going to write

493
00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:33,640
Speaker 2: every day you're there. You're going to ask anyone who

494
00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:36,000
Speaker 2: write with you to write with you. You're gonna play

495
00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:38,680
Speaker 2: every show Like that's just how their brains worked. Business

496
00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:43,320
Speaker 2: and so that's what I did. And eventually, like I guess,

497
00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:47,240
Speaker 2: like probably two years into being here, people like Liz

498
00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:49,320
Speaker 2: Rose were demming me back and writing with me and

499
00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:52,560
Speaker 2: like shit like that. And so by the time I

500
00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:54,879
Speaker 2: was done with school, I had a publishing deal offer.

501
00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:56,359
Speaker 2: I was like, get me out of here. I'm ready

502
00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:57,120
Speaker 2: to like move on.

503
00:22:57,359 --> 00:23:01,919
Speaker 1: When did you start to gain confidence in yourself in Nashville?

504
00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:03,760
Speaker 2: Oh?

505
00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:07,560
Speaker 1: Was it in comparison with others? And not that you

506
00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:09,960
Speaker 1: were comparing yourself, but you would actually see other people

507
00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:13,240
Speaker 1: do their thing and go, oh, I don't feel so small,

508
00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:15,920
Speaker 1: like I can do this? Or did you have did

509
00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:17,920
Speaker 1: you have it before you got here?

510
00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:25,400
Speaker 2: I think what was really momentous, what's the word monumental

511
00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:30,280
Speaker 2: for me was there were there would be publishers that

512
00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:32,399
Speaker 2: would come into our songwriting class and listen to all

513
00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:36,240
Speaker 2: our songs. And I remember feeling like kind of outcast

514
00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:37,880
Speaker 2: because I didn't write with a lot of the other

515
00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:41,879
Speaker 2: Belmont people. I didn't like make friends in college again

516
00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:44,800
Speaker 2: back to you know, knew everyone my whole life. So

517
00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:47,040
Speaker 2: when I came to college, I was like, Okay, it's

518
00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:50,920
Speaker 2: I'm scared. And so I would write by myself or

519
00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:54,639
Speaker 2: write with people in town, and I think it was

520
00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:58,120
Speaker 2: really special for me because people like actual Nashville publishers

521
00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:01,040
Speaker 2: would come into our class and they would always notice me.

522
00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:03,359
Speaker 2: And that was when I would get noticed by people

523
00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:05,399
Speaker 2: actually in town, and I was like, Okay, maybe I

524
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:11,080
Speaker 2: don't have what Belmont has right now, and I thought

525
00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:13,440
Speaker 2: that was a negative, but maybe I have what Nashville

526
00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:16,960
Speaker 2: wants and I can go right in town and I'm

527
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:20,080
Speaker 2: doing something right, like I'm writing the way that actual

528
00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:23,439
Speaker 2: writers write instead of still learning, like I'm just diving

529
00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:26,280
Speaker 2: into the deep end. Because I didn't write since I

530
00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:28,320
Speaker 2: was like an eight year old write in songs like

531
00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:30,440
Speaker 2: wanting to do this. I feel like I just went

532
00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:33,879
Speaker 2: in super naive and that was really helpful for me.

533
00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:36,920
Speaker 2: And so those publishers would let me write with their

534
00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:41,080
Speaker 2: signed writers, and people just kind of lifted me up

535
00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:42,720
Speaker 2: while I was still in school. And I think that

536
00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:46,560
Speaker 2: gave me confidence. People giving me confidence, you know.

537
00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:49,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, but this time doesn't give anything.

538
00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:50,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true.

539
00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:53,920
Speaker 1: So I would say any confidence they gave you was earned,

540
00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:57,120
Speaker 1: because this is a very value based down They must

541
00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:58,679
Speaker 1: have seen value in you in some way that you

542
00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:02,040
Speaker 1: could help them in some way. There are a couple

543
00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:03,760
Speaker 1: of good ones. But this is a this is a business.

544
00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:04,439
Speaker 1: Sounds a business.

545
00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:06,480
Speaker 2: No, I've I've learned that, so I don't watch it.

546
00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:10,480
Speaker 1: Because you're good. It's definitely wasn't anyone doing you any charity,

547
00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:12,320
Speaker 1: but it's people recognizing.

548
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:15,840
Speaker 2: Yeah. And that recognition, though, was really great for me,

549
00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:20,200
Speaker 2: just because my parents love what I write. My friends

550
00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:23,000
Speaker 2: love what I write. But who cares about that? You know?

551
00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:25,800
Speaker 1: Yeah? Most parents and friends love what their friends. Right?

552
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:29,720
Speaker 1: What about singing? Were you? Were you doing vocal anything

553
00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:35,080
Speaker 1: in school? I was like singing class? I don't know. No,

554
00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:38,760
Speaker 1: do they have those? They have vocal classes, right, but

555
00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:41,400
Speaker 1: but are they like opera or do they have like country?

556
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:43,280
Speaker 2: You can major in voice at Belmont, but you have

557
00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:44,000
Speaker 2: to take opera class.

558
00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:45,199
Speaker 1: Or can you do a voice? Can you do like

559
00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:47,440
Speaker 1: country music voice? I don't think so, don't either.

560
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:49,600
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know what they would teach. I

561
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:51,400
Speaker 2: guess what are they teach in songwriting?

562
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:53,680
Speaker 1: Though they teach a lot, but what do they teach

563
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:54,399
Speaker 1: in songwriting?

564
00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:58,080
Speaker 2: We did a lot of like analyzing songs, which I

565
00:25:58,080 --> 00:25:59,960
Speaker 2: think is smarter than like being like this is your

566
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,960
Speaker 2: rhyme scheme, because that's just you know, you need to

567
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:04,200
Speaker 2: know those rules to break them.

568
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:07,480
Speaker 1: Rhymes rhymes dot com, rhymeson dot com, there's you go.

569
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:08,080
Speaker 1: You're looking for a.

570
00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:09,920
Speaker 2: Rhyme if you need to be tall, how to rhyme

571
00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:11,359
Speaker 2: something there?

572
00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:15,680
Speaker 1: Seriously? So you evaluate songs or not evaluate, but you

573
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:19,720
Speaker 1: listen to songs and then try to understand what made them.

574
00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:22,480
Speaker 2: What made it good. Like I remember we listened to

575
00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:26,560
Speaker 2: Space Cowboy by Casey and we're just all like, this

576
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:30,240
Speaker 2: is just simple, simple, beautiful, Like there's a complex part here,

577
00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:32,760
Speaker 2: this melody here, like that's what we do, which I

578
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:33,520
Speaker 2: think is helpful.

579
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:39,960
Speaker 1: That's super cool. Yeah, what artists do you hear? Maybe

580
00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:43,719
Speaker 1: not even artists the word I think artists were not singers.

581
00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:47,400
Speaker 1: What artists do you hear? They kind of speak for you.

582
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:52,240
Speaker 1: And I asked that because I was had favorite artists

583
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 1: and singers and stuff. But when I was in my

584
00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 1: twenties or so, like John Mayer would say stuff and

585
00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:00,560
Speaker 1: I would be like, oh, I think that, Oh this

586
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:04,239
Speaker 1: is somebody who's like songwriting my thoughts. I never had

587
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:04,920
Speaker 1: that happen before.

588
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's crazy.

589
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:09,440
Speaker 1: And there are comedians that we'll say things and I'm like, oh,

590
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:11,560
Speaker 1: I thought that I just didn't say that in that

591
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:13,639
Speaker 1: way nearest funny and nearest compelling as they did. But

592
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:16,440
Speaker 1: like there's who what artists did that for you?

593
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:22,040
Speaker 2: I think like early Miranda Lambert that was my badass side,

594
00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:24,520
Speaker 2: you know, and then Casey Musgraves. I remember hearing Mary

595
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:26,720
Speaker 2: go around in a Walmart parking lot and I made

596
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 2: us stay in the car till we listened to the

597
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:32,200
Speaker 2: whole thing for the first time. Just people like that,

598
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:36,639
Speaker 2: they're just talking about small town normal life because that

599
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,879
Speaker 2: is what most of America is. And that's definitely the

600
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:42,720
Speaker 2: life I lived, was just normal life with these like

601
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:46,520
Speaker 2: very intense feelings that all creatives have, that all people have, probably,

602
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:51,439
Speaker 2: so it's definitely a lot of Casey Miranda pistolanies.

603
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:52,919
Speaker 1: Always have you met Maranda?

604
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:54,399
Speaker 2: I have not met Miranda.

605
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 1: Very guys are very similar just in Yeah, I'm lucky

606
00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:00,439
Speaker 1: enough to know Miranda relatively well at this point. Seems

607
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:04,959
Speaker 1: real and very soft spoken and quiet. Yeah, and unless

608
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:08,840
Speaker 1: she's like doing her thing, that's not her thing, Yeah,

609
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,840
Speaker 1: it's it's it's pretty wild because again, she is such

610
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:12,880
Speaker 1: a freaking fire crack.

611
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 2: Yeah she is. She's I want her to like stand

612
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:18,400
Speaker 2: up for me. You know in a bar, I want

613
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:19,600
Speaker 2: her to be on my mind.

614
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:21,960
Speaker 1: And she would and she'd cut somebody too. But other

615
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,639
Speaker 1: than that, she's just quiet Miranda who's really not going

616
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 1: to get in anybody's way and be a wallflower. But

617
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 1: as well, a lot of similarities there.

618
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:30,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just like to observe and you can tell

619
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 2: that in her music, I think too, which is why

620
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 2: it's not just that badass side. It has that like

621
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:37,440
Speaker 2: real person side too.

622
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:39,640
Speaker 1: Congrets on signing a deal?

623
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 2: Thank you?

624
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 1: When did you get that news? Was it a long

625
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:46,320
Speaker 1: work in progress where you kept hoping developing with that?

626
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 2: I think my long work in progress has been like

627
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:54,680
Speaker 2: finding people on my team that I trust. So I've

628
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:58,960
Speaker 2: gone through some managers, I've gone through some people on

629
00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:01,560
Speaker 2: my side, and so that was kind of a long

630
00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 2: time coming. I learning how to trust people in this

631
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:09,040
Speaker 2: business is really hard, cause what how can I trust

632
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 2: any of you?

633
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 1: A very transactional place, and everybody's your best friend until

634
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:15,440
Speaker 1: it's not easy to be.

635
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:17,760
Speaker 2: Your best friend, which that's business.

636
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 1: And it is business, But you're right, it feels very

637
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 1: it's very personal. It feels way more personal than it

638
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 1: actually is, especially at first because I felt I fell

639
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:26,640
Speaker 1: into those trappings. At first too, I was like, oh,

640
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:29,520
Speaker 1: this person, this is my best friend. Yes, And then

641
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:30,240
Speaker 1: it turns out.

642
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:32,200
Speaker 2: Then you go to all the other labels and they

643
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:36,640
Speaker 2: all have their same fiel. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm learning

644
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 2: how to clock people quicker, which is helpful. But I

645
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:44,720
Speaker 2: think my experience with Universal Nashville all has to do

646
00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:48,400
Speaker 2: with Hannah Wilson and Cyndy Maybe there. Hannah Wilson, I've

647
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 2: known her since I was still at school, and she

648
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 2: just loved what I did and would come to my

649
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 2: shows and come to my c Fest Deata heat show,

650
00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 2: you know that no one was there. And then when

651
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 2: I met Indie, maybe she just she just liked what

652
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 2: I did. Like She's like, I don't need you cutting

653
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:09,480
Speaker 2: outside songs. I like your voice. I need your voice.

654
00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:12,760
Speaker 2: I think it's important. And when you're a songwriter that

655
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:16,880
Speaker 2: just speaks volumes. And then there's a woman there, Chelsea

656
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:19,720
Speaker 2: Blythe who I love so much too. She's from LA

657
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:23,440
Speaker 2: and she has just a whole different view on country music,

658
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:26,720
Speaker 2: which I think we're seeing is very important.

659
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:32,120
Speaker 1: When you sign a deal one what does that mean now?

660
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:37,600
Speaker 1: But were you nine six three months working toward this

661
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:42,120
Speaker 1: specific deal with these specific people. Were you wondering, I

662
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:44,120
Speaker 1: wonder if they're gonna sign me or was it like

663
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:46,840
Speaker 1: a random call, Hey Carder, you want to do Yeah?

664
00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:48,840
Speaker 1: I'm all I mean like, what is that? What is

665
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:51,560
Speaker 1: that process? What's the build? It's different for everybody, Like.

666
00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:54,960
Speaker 2: Mine was like I met with a lot of labels

667
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 2: and they all act interested, you know, and then you

668
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 2: like keep and then you're like, dude, am I interested

669
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 2: in them? It is like I felt like I was

670
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 2: a bachelorette, you know, which is so weird. And because

671
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:12,440
Speaker 2: I'm not this TikTok viral girl, like I don't have

672
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 2: these like crazy, They're not going to give me like

673
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 2: five million dollars, you know. So I'm like they have

674
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:21,480
Speaker 2: to care about my music and I have to feel that.

675
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 1: Well, they need a long term invest in you.

676
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 2: Yes, I'm trying to do this my whole life. This

677
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 2: is my career. So I think I met with a

678
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 2: lot of LA labels. I met with a lot of

679
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 2: Nashville labels, and I basically at one point just told Universal,

680
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:37,760
Speaker 2: which is this is probably bad business on my half.

681
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 2: But I was like, I'm only going to sign with

682
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 2: you guys, so it's now and never like, let's go

683
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 2: and it was done in like a month.

684
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 1: Were other labels making you different offers or was there that? Wow?

685
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:54,000
Speaker 1: But that's pretty cool. It does mean all the officers

686
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 1: are goodfair or yes, but that's cool.

687
00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 2: No, that is really freaking cool. I don't know. I'm

688
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 2: just I'm just a girl, and you guys want to

689
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 2: give me money to make music.

690
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 1: That's pretty cool for you. Hesitant to sign at all?

691
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:14,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, just because I again, I don't like authority. This

692
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:16,959
Speaker 2: is very personal to me, all the things. I just

693
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 2: it's scary to put your like my heart and soul

694
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:23,240
Speaker 2: in someone else's hands. That's what it truly feels like.

695
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 2: But I also that's what I needed to level up.

696
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 2: I thought about it a ton, and that's what I

697
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:34,120
Speaker 2: decided I needed to get to that next level. So

698
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 2: I keep going.

699
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 1: Did you do the thing where you took the picture

700
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 1: with the papers in front of you?

701
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 2: Yeah?

702
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:38,280
Speaker 1: I did.

703
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 2: I was like, I was like, I expect you all.

704
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 1: There, Yeah, everybody's around you, and then you give up

705
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 1: the picture. How long ago to take the picture?

706
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 2: That was in March? I think?

707
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:48,960
Speaker 1: And then do you get to post it right away

708
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:50,480
Speaker 1: or it's like we gotta hold onto what you officially

709
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 1: announce it.

710
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:53,040
Speaker 2: I think I posted it right away.

711
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:53,720
Speaker 1: Yeah.

712
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 2: I also don't really ask permission for a lot of things,

713
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:57,960
Speaker 2: so I'm just like, sorry, it's announced.

714
00:32:58,800 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 1: I felt that.

715
00:32:59,480 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 2: Yeah.

716
00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:02,240
Speaker 1: And so when you sign with the label, do they

717
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 1: say when if you sign, we'd love to have you.

718
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 1: Here is our version of a long the long term

719
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 1: strategy we would do with you. Yeah, because like an agency,

720
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:14,520
Speaker 1: I I switched agents recently a year and a half ago,

721
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 1: and I was I liked my agency CAA, but my

722
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 1: personal agent had gotten so big in the political world

723
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 1: representing people that I felt a bit lost because her

724
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:29,200
Speaker 1: specialty wasn't television, which is what I was doing. And

725
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:32,479
Speaker 1: so she was like, I'm so I said, hey, I'm

726
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 1: gonna talk to other agencies. There's really open and honest,

727
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 1: and all of them were like, come to us wm ME.

728
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 1: It was all right, They're all like but they a

729
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:43,960
Speaker 1: had a different version of what their offerings were. And

730
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:46,480
Speaker 1: I ended up signing with UTA that's my agent now.

731
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 1: But I liked their long term and they said, okay,

732
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 1: look we're signing now. But in three months, six months,

733
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 1: twelve months, this is what some of them were Just like,

734
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 1: if you signed with us, We're gonna be rocking immediately.

735
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 1: And I'm like, that's kind of are like I see you. Yeah, yeah,

736
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 1: it's like that sounds really good, but that's kind of

737
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 1: bull crap where it's a label situation similar and what

738
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 1: about where you signed to work? Like what was the plan?

739
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:11,799
Speaker 1: What do they tell you?

740
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 2: Oh my god. My favorite thing for people to say

741
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 2: is like, I mean, are we doing this or not?

742
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 2: And I'm like, we're not so sorry. I think the

743
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 2: plan with them is like I'm trying to be a

744
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:29,279
Speaker 2: big fucking deal, you know, and I am going to

745
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:31,400
Speaker 2: work for that and this is what I love and

746
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 2: I'm gonna want to do that.

747
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 1: Are are you going? I need to I need to

748
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 1: single out tomorrow whenever this happens, or are you going?

749
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:39,719
Speaker 1: I need you guys to let me find that that

750
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:41,719
Speaker 1: I think is that single we need tomorrow whenever that

751
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:42,320
Speaker 1: day comes.

752
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:44,760
Speaker 2: I came in with an album that I wanted to record,

753
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 2: and so I was like, this is my album that

754
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:49,319
Speaker 2: I want to record. I'm still writing, I write three

755
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 2: times a week, but I need to know that you

756
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:55,319
Speaker 2: guys are gonna let me put out an album next year.

757
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:58,799
Speaker 2: And because I need to put out music. I think

758
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:03,720
Speaker 2: that's the game now being frequents. I need your guys's

759
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:06,279
Speaker 2: help getting me on tours or just helping me get

760
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:09,439
Speaker 2: out in front of real people stuff like that. And

761
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 2: I also, I feel like what I really loved about

762
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 2: Universal is that they just appreciate my point of view.

763
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:17,279
Speaker 2: Like they're not gonna tell me I can't say a

764
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:20,279
Speaker 2: certain word or say something a certain way, and I'm

765
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 2: very clear about that in meetings. So I think just

766
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 2: I just love that they respect me and I respect them.

767
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:29,759
Speaker 1: Feels like that what I appreciate about you is not

768
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:31,719
Speaker 1: what your point of view is. Is that you have

769
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 1: one right, yeah, Like I don't need to agree with

770
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 1: anyone's ideas or point of view or for art. Yeah,

771
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:45,320
Speaker 1: but I do really love when people have one, yeah,

772
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 1: and one that is ninety three percent formed already. I'm

773
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:53,239
Speaker 1: always about ninety three percent. You're always changing, yeah, a

774
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:56,319
Speaker 1: little bit right. And so do you feel like that's

775
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 1: what they liked about you? I think so is that

776
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 1: not so much exactly what you say and they agree

777
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 1: with everything about what the deep but they were like, oh,

778
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 1: we just like this. She freaking has an idea of

779
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 1: what she wants and who she is I think so.

780
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm like, I'm gonna have weekly meetings like

781
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:09,920
Speaker 2: this is what I expect.

782
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 1: That's freaking awesome.

783
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:14,920
Speaker 2: But my parents are business people, so they're like you

784
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 2: know that. I think that's why I've been successful in

785
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:19,799
Speaker 2: a way, is because I've had both those points of view.

786
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:23,239
Speaker 1: All Right, it's a little different. Yeah, song is a

787
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:24,839
Speaker 1: little different for it. I mean, to me, it sounds

788
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:25,440
Speaker 1: a little different.

789
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 2: It's very different.

790
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:26,759
Speaker 1: What's up?

791
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:33,360
Speaker 2: So honestly, me and Tofer we made like I was

792
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 2: talking about the album I brought to Universal that I

793
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 2: want to record. We had made album before that, and

794
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 2: again like management switched up. I was like, I don't

795
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 2: feel comfortable releasedince as the album doesn't feel like me anymore.

796
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:46,759
Speaker 2: But there was a lot of songs we recorded that

797
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:50,440
Speaker 2: I really loved, and Alright was one of those. And

798
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 2: I just felt like, it's not like I'm on country

799
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 2: radio and I need to be any sort of thing

800
00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 2: right now, Like I just love this song and I

801
00:36:57,960 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 2: want to put it out, and we say it feels

802
00:36:59,960 --> 00:37:04,040
Speaker 2: like the Willy Wonka soundtrack with like Ana del Rey vibes,

803
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 2: and I love both those things. I love. I just

804
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:12,440
Speaker 2: love a lot of other influences artistically than country, Like

805
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:15,719
Speaker 2: I am country, but I like playing into all those

806
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 2: other influences as well.

807
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:23,360
Speaker 1: And the irony is that's most people. And the same

808
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:33,440
Speaker 1: irony is businesses, corporations, executives don't really feel safe doing that,

809
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 1: which was my struggle when I moved to town. Was here,

810
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 1: I come. I don't wear a cowboy hair, I don't

811
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:41,919
Speaker 1: have a belt buckle, and it's like I played hip

812
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 1: hop on my show, but again, I'm from Mountain Pine, Arkansas.

813
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 1: Like the yeah, the trailer party like, and there's different

814
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 1: kinds of country. There's cowboy country, there's redneck hilberty country,

815
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:56,840
Speaker 1: which is what I was right, white trash country. Yes,

816
00:37:57,320 --> 00:37:59,840
Speaker 1: And so you know, I come to town, but I

817
00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 1: have background in hip hop and pop and alternative. But

818
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 1: I'm as country as you could possibly be. But this

819
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:09,800
Speaker 1: town was not warm to it for a long time

820
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:12,360
Speaker 1: because it was just so it was different. But the

821
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:15,239
Speaker 1: thing was it wasn't different. And Mike like this this

822
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 1: is I was like just what everybody is. Yes, but

823
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 1: it feels like that your story has so much parallel

824
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 1: with that. Is that that's what your your sensibilities are

825
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:31,319
Speaker 1: the normal person. Yes, your country, but you also love

826
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:35,080
Speaker 1: Landad del Ray or insert other artists. It's not country

827
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:36,880
Speaker 1: and you can still be country and have all that.

828
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 2: And I've seen so many female country artists talk about

829
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:42,839
Speaker 2: being put in a box, and I just don't want

830
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 2: to start off on that foot. I feel like I

831
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:47,359
Speaker 2: can not be put in a box if I don't

832
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 2: start in the box. So that's something I'm like super

833
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 2: passionate about doing.

834
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:53,839
Speaker 1: What words to People will not want you to put

835
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:56,920
Speaker 1: in songs? What words if you put in songs? Do

836
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 1: you have songs?

837
00:38:58,000 --> 00:38:58,360
Speaker 2: Yeah?

838
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,320
Speaker 1: But is that my feel like that's even that bad anymore? No,

839
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:03,479
Speaker 1: I don't think that. I feel like I don't neither

840
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:05,719
Speaker 1: because I feel like that it's just the vernacular. And

841
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 1: also it's like just Sabrina Carpenter or let's go there

842
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:14,600
Speaker 1: judging you as an example, because that's a very very

843
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 1: current example, like and please, please please, I mean the

844
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:22,720
Speaker 1: F word, even Taylor. Yeah, I mean they're throwing it's

845
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 1: it's not a thing. It's just a bunch of forty

846
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 1: five to sixty year olds that wasn't a thing like that.

847
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 1: They're like, well, we can't do this because it was

848
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 1: never done that way before. But it's just not the

849
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 1: same anymore.

850
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:37,240
Speaker 2: No, And I think girl like not girls like. People

851
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:39,759
Speaker 2: my age see that, and that's how we talk.

852
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:40,440
Speaker 1: I agree.

853
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:43,440
Speaker 2: So I agree that I just need people who are like, Okay,

854
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 2: that is real, That is real.

855
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 1: What's the lyric you have with the f wort in it?

856
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 2: He only fucks with the strong.

857
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 1: Stuff like drinks or women or.

858
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, both the songs about both?

859
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:57,120
Speaker 1: What song is that strong stuff? Is that the only

860
00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:58,399
Speaker 1: song you have the effort in it?

861
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:00,719
Speaker 2: I say, fuck in Carolina burns too?

862
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 1: What's the what's the context of that?

863
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 2: Nothing sticks around like a fucked up crown?

864
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:08,480
Speaker 1: Do you we're either one of those songs ever going

865
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:10,439
Speaker 1: to be and you're like whatever they call a single? Now,

866
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 1: did you make an other like another, like a that's.

867
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 2: Another thing version. I didn't really realize that, like to

868
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 2: have a clean version you have to have a whole

869
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 2: nother master.

870
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:20,359
Speaker 1: Oh.

871
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:22,880
Speaker 2: I didn't know that you can't just mute it.

872
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 1: Or like movement.

873
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:25,799
Speaker 2: So I was like, no, I'm not going to give

874
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 2: you a clean version because I can't pay for another master.

875
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:29,880
Speaker 1: I didn't know that.

876
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:32,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, isn't that crazy this time?

877
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:37,239
Speaker 1: Did you know that? I thought you or just like

878
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 1: mute it. Yeah, just mute it. And that's like point two,

879
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:46,359
Speaker 1: like version two of the same. I know you're write

880
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:47,759
Speaker 1: three times a week now? Still more?

881
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:50,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, three usually is the good number.

882
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 1: What are you writing about most right now? Like just conceptually?

883
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:55,720
Speaker 1: What what?

884
00:40:55,719 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 2: What's I I'm like finishing writing for this album that

885
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:01,720
Speaker 2: I'm about to start.

886
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:03,759
Speaker 1: Like what emotion are you feeling most? Like most of

887
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:06,800
Speaker 1: your songs are, even if you don't write them. Oh yeah,

888
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 1: most of your things are happiness, sadness, anger, jealousy, Like

889
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:10,640
Speaker 1: where are you right now?

890
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 2: Well, so I date another artist, so it's a lot

891
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:17,760
Speaker 2: of like I love you, but we're probably not gonna

892
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 2: end up together, you know that? Like honest feeling.

893
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:23,840
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna ask who if it's not known, is

894
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:24,200
Speaker 1: it known?

895
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:26,760
Speaker 2: Yeah? His name and we have a song together, Okay

896
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 2: then okay, Yeah, his name's Tyler Halverson. He's a Texas

897
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:30,879
Speaker 2: country artist.

898
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:33,759
Speaker 1: Let me see this guy looks like, yeah, yeah, that

899
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 1: meet him. That's not him. I'm a different day.

900
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:38,359
Speaker 2: I'm a different guy.

901
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 1: No as a guy who worked No, no, no, Tyler Halverson. Yes,

902
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:46,600
Speaker 1: oh yeah, he's definitely got a vibe about him.

903
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 2: He's on the road every weekend because he does the

904
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 2: whole Texas rigamarole.

905
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:50,960
Speaker 1: You know.

906
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 2: So I'm like writing a lot about missing him and

907
00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:55,960
Speaker 2: if he's talking to hoes and shit like that.

908
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:58,480
Speaker 1: I like, I don't know thing about him, but we

909
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:02,960
Speaker 1: don't I like about him. Yeah, he looks legitimate as

910
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:05,719
Speaker 1: the artist that he is. He also like has a

911
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:08,319
Speaker 1: little softness, like a little nerd like kind of like

912
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:11,759
Speaker 1: a little as it is. Yeah, there's something about him

913
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 1: that's not just like I'm an angry cowboy and I

914
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 1: don't know, there's.

915
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 2: A lot of country music right now. It feels like

916
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:18,799
Speaker 2: you're just being yelled at.

917
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:21,279
Speaker 1: Does he work prescription glasses? Yes?

918
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 2: He does.

919
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:22,799
Speaker 1: I like that too. I think that's why I like

920
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 1: it's really bad and kind of tell something's up there.

921
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 1: And how long you guys been together? Like a year

922
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:31,759
Speaker 1: and a half going pretty good?

923
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's the best. I mean, he lived here, he

924
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 2: lives here. Yeah, it's just nice to talk to someone

925
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 2: about things that they get and it's not like someone

926
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:42,400
Speaker 2: you're competitive with.

927
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 3: The Bobby Cast will be right back. M hm, this

928
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 3: is the Bobby Cast.

929
00:42:56,880 --> 00:43:00,680
Speaker 1: Have you had day to day change since you've signed

930
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:02,920
Speaker 1: a deal? Is I feel the same right now, but

931
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:06,720
Speaker 1: you're expecting, like when you're done it to be different.

932
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:12,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, it better be different, right, I'm like, here, better help.

933
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 2: My day to day is just different because I have

934
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 2: to ask more people if I should do something or

935
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:23,359
Speaker 2: ask for forgiveness if I did something wrong. So like more,

936
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 2: I have to answer to more people. But I guess

937
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 2: they're kind of answering to me. That's the mindset I'm taking.

938
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:31,440
Speaker 1: You have management, I do. Yeah, I'm with range and

939
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 1: so did you have the whole My struggle was for

940
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 1: a long time, I felt like I was working for them,

941
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:39,399
Speaker 1: I know. And then I was like, oh, I hope.

942
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:41,799
Speaker 1: I It took me a long time to realize. Then

943
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:43,239
Speaker 1: I got to be like, I have to make it

944
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:45,359
Speaker 1: like they're working for me now I'm in a really

945
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 1: good spot where we work together. Yes, but they're not

946
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:49,440
Speaker 1: my boss. But I felt like for a long time,

947
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:50,320
Speaker 1: like I was like, I don't want to get in

948
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:53,000
Speaker 1: trouble with my management. No, I know, did you have that?

949
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 2: I'm a little girl.

950
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:58,359
Speaker 1: You're not fooling me without one. But yeah, because that's

951
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:00,959
Speaker 1: a weird thing, especially if the older than you.

952
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:03,880
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean I think what again? What helped

953
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:07,759
Speaker 2: me is too bad experiences with other managers. I had

954
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 2: to learn how to fire someone.

955
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:11,240
Speaker 1: Okay, so you did. So you did have the struggles

956
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 1: early on this Oh.

957
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, pretty rough and I had to be a big

958
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:18,880
Speaker 2: girl and make a decision and get out of that

959
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 2: situation or you know, all the things. So I went

960
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 2: into deciding who my manager would be very headstrong, and

961
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:31,080
Speaker 2: I was just like, I'm Carter Jones. This project is

962
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:33,760
Speaker 2: Carter Faith. I want Carter Faith to be all of ours.

963
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 2: But like I'm the president.

964
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:38,399
Speaker 1: How long did it take you to be that?

965
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:43,480
Speaker 2: I started out with them like that because.

966
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 1: With your current Yeah, so with the first no oh,

967
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:48,800
Speaker 1: and don't say who it is or anything like that,

968
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:53,840
Speaker 1: but where and in my mess ups too, and some

969
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:56,359
Speaker 1: of them were my fault. I didn't know I did

970
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:56,920
Speaker 1: things wrong.

971
00:44:57,120 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh my god. I think you probably have experiences.

972
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:05,839
Speaker 2: I think everyone has. Like assuming someone's on the same

973
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 2: page as you is my biggest mistake.

974
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:11,200
Speaker 1: Mine also is assuming they're doing as much work and

975
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:13,360
Speaker 1: is caring as much as I am. They're not, and

976
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:19,279
Speaker 1: they're not, and and and the actualization is, of course

977
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:19,640
Speaker 1: they're not.

978
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 2: Of course they're not.

979
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:26,319
Speaker 1: Of course they're not. But they weren't doing it even

980
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 1: as much as I thought they should have anyway. Yeah,

981
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:30,359
Speaker 1: so I had to go first of all, no one's

982
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:32,800
Speaker 1: gonna work as hard for me as me because only

983
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 1: I'm the only me. Yes, however, uh, they're not doing crap.

984
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:43,839
Speaker 2: I know, like separating that is a thing. Yeah, and yeah,

985
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 2: just in this business, everyone has their own opinions. It's

986
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 2: like everything is taken personally at a time. You know.

987
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 1: Do you ever read the Four Agreements?

988
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:53,080
Speaker 2: No?

989
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 1: Very and uh it's it's it's so easy. It's like

990
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 1: a very very very thin book. You can read it

991
00:45:57,520 --> 00:46:01,359
Speaker 1: in an hour. But when you say that, I usually

992
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:03,759
Speaker 1: read it once a year. And one of them is

993
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 1: don't take anything personal in business. It's very very hard

994
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:11,920
Speaker 1: for me to do because I'm so insecure, which creates

995
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 1: wild competitiveness that I take everything personally and want to

996
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:19,239
Speaker 1: burn everyone down because they're my end, the me. If

997
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:20,200
Speaker 1: we're not the same.

998
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 2: No one can have it but me, absolutely yes.

999
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 1: And anybody I've ever competed against, I hate them. And

1000
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:28,719
Speaker 1: then I realize, as I get older, maybe I don't

1001
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:30,480
Speaker 1: have but I do have that, and I still have

1002
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 1: that in me that have to fight sometimes. But the

1003
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:37,080
Speaker 1: Four Agreements is tremendous because it is just like the

1004
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:39,400
Speaker 1: whole section of it is, don't take anything personal in

1005
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 1: business because they're not doing it to be personally ad

1006
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 1: and if they are, that's a different situation. But I

1007
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:48,360
Speaker 1: had to learn that. That's tough because I took everything

1008
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:51,200
Speaker 1: personal and business because business was so personal to me. Yes,

1009
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:53,440
Speaker 1: and it's got to be personal to you because you're right,

1010
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:55,400
Speaker 1: so much of what you do is personal, like what

1011
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:57,360
Speaker 1: you're writing about, like your product is personal.

1012
00:46:57,560 --> 00:47:01,279
Speaker 2: Yes, I'm like, don't disrespect my art. This is like

1013
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:02,839
Speaker 2: my child, you know, And.

1014
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:05,400
Speaker 1: To them it's not their child. It's business. They can

1015
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 1: see it that way, and you know what, that's what

1016
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:09,600
Speaker 1: they're supposed to do. They're supposed to see it like business. Yes, yes,

1017
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 1: And it's finding that right dynamic.

1018
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:13,759
Speaker 2: And I feel like I've found that, like range is

1019
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 2: so my current managers, they're so professional in that way

1020
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:20,759
Speaker 2: it's business, but they respect me as a person and

1021
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:23,319
Speaker 2: an artist and a creative and that's like, I don't know,

1022
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:27,080
Speaker 2: that's just hard to find. But I think also everyone's

1023
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 2: it's like a relationship, Like everyone's dynamic is going to

1024
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 2: be different.

1025
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:31,919
Speaker 1: Cherry Valley Show.

1026
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:37,720
Speaker 2: Yes, Yeah, so there's more to come on what that means,

1027
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:42,280
Speaker 2: But basically, I just wanted to put together a show

1028
00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:46,480
Speaker 2: that's the only headline show I've ever done headline, and

1029
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:48,800
Speaker 2: I just wanted to sing with my friends and my band.

1030
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:51,239
Speaker 2: I just put together an awesome band that I love

1031
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 2: and they're some of my closest friends. And I just

1032
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:56,920
Speaker 2: wanted to put out a show in Nashville where my

1033
00:47:57,239 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 2: family could come, my friends could come, to be honest,

1034
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:01,840
Speaker 2: and I think I want to do some more of

1035
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:03,880
Speaker 2: those because it was just awesome and fun.

1036
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:05,840
Speaker 1: I love Ashley Monroe.

1037
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 2: Yes, she's like my sister.

1038
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:11,239
Speaker 1: Did we talk about Carter when Ashley was here at all?

1039
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:15,439
Speaker 1: I think so. Yeah. I've known Ashley for a long time.

1040
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:17,920
Speaker 1: And I was telling Ashley because there were there were

1041
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:19,719
Speaker 1: a few years we didn't talk and Ashley got sick

1042
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 1: for a while, and and we didn't talk because for

1043
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:25,400
Speaker 1: any we didn't talk because we weren't talking, but just

1044
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:28,680
Speaker 1: grow grow marriage all for her. But what I was

1045
00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 1: telling her was, I know we haven't talked in a

1046
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:31,960
Speaker 1: long time, but I don't feel like we haven't talked

1047
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:35,239
Speaker 1: like That's how much I like value her.

1048
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:38,880
Speaker 2: She's like a spiritual person to me.

1049
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:45,800
Speaker 1: For sure, Lucas Nelson. I met Lucas in California, and no,

1050
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:48,960
Speaker 1: I knew of his music, and I will listen to

1051
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:50,719
Speaker 1: it a little bit, and then I knew it was

1052
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:53,480
Speaker 1: the real, the whole deal, and we were at it.

1053
00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:55,000
Speaker 1: He plays golf, he's a big golfer.

1054
00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:56,120
Speaker 2: I don't think I knew that.

1055
00:48:56,280 --> 00:49:00,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, So we were at the Pebble Beach Pro and

1056
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:04,600
Speaker 1: both of us were two of the celebrities there by exactly,

1057
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 1: we're wildly famous, and Lucas is friends with one of

1058
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 1: my friends, and so we kind of were in the

1059
00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:19,480
Speaker 1: group together. And the first night of the event, they

1060
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:21,719
Speaker 1: everybody that has like a skill or a talent goes

1061
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:25,120
Speaker 1: up and it's just entertaining. So, you know, sobody gets

1062
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:26,400
Speaker 1: up by a couple of songs and make it's up,

1063
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:28,040
Speaker 1: and so Lucas I want to go. I'll go up

1064
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:31,239
Speaker 1: and do some songs. And so he goes up for

1065
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:31,920
Speaker 1: like threes.

1066
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:35,920
Speaker 2: Oh my god, right, it's completely different.

1067
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:38,440
Speaker 1: Oh my god. It was like my wife and I

1068
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:40,960
Speaker 1: were like, what just happened here?

1069
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:43,680
Speaker 2: It's pretty crazy to watch.

1070
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:48,479
Speaker 1: And so An he's such a lovely, kind guy. Because

1071
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:50,359
Speaker 1: then after that we got to know him more because

1072
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:54,160
Speaker 1: that was just he was so good and they weren't

1073
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 1: Alanda giants. We get to see great people all the time.

1074
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:58,680
Speaker 1: We lived where everybody great comes. And still it was

1075
00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:00,600
Speaker 1: like when I watched Lucas play, I was there's an

1076
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:03,080
Speaker 1: that's an alien. Yeah, that's an So how do you

1077
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 1: know Lucas.

1078
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:08,400
Speaker 2: So there's this house in West Nashville. I guess, I

1079
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:10,680
Speaker 2: guess I shouldn't say where it is, but the pretty

1080
00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:12,960
Speaker 2: large area. Yeah, it's pretty large area. It's this old

1081
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:15,120
Speaker 2: house that's kind of falling apart, but a lot of

1082
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:16,879
Speaker 2: people I know live in it. That's how I met

1083
00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:19,560
Speaker 2: my boyfriend because he used to live there. Ashley has

1084
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:23,080
Speaker 2: a writing spot there, Lucas Uh, that's where his Nashville

1085
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:26,799
Speaker 2: spot is, Magmacree, ben Chapman. A lot of hippies called

1086
00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:30,400
Speaker 2: the Hippie House, so they all write there. So I

1087
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:32,239
Speaker 2: just would go over there all the time, and it's

1088
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:35,279
Speaker 2: like feels like the seventies. You're like, there's a back

1089
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:40,160
Speaker 2: porch we're all smoking on and hanging out. And I

1090
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:43,200
Speaker 2: think that's just the type of people I gravitate towards.

1091
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:46,000
Speaker 2: Like I love that you said alien, because I there's

1092
00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:48,080
Speaker 2: a lot of creative people in this town. But I

1093
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:51,560
Speaker 2: really gravitate towards people who are like it's bleeding out

1094
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:53,640
Speaker 2: of them and like they have to do this because

1095
00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 2: it's in them, not just for any other reason. And

1096
00:50:56,760 --> 00:50:59,080
Speaker 2: so that's how I met him. We I think, honestly,

1097
00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:01,880
Speaker 2: I was writing a stairs with Ashley Monroe and Connie

1098
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 2: Harrington and Lucas knocked on the door to see if

1099
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:07,640
Speaker 2: we had coffee or something, and he was holding a

1100
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:09,560
Speaker 2: guitar and just sat down and started writing with us.

1101
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:11,880
Speaker 2: It's the first time I met him. By the end

1102
00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:13,520
Speaker 2: of the song, we're like, oh, you weren't even in

1103
00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:17,640
Speaker 2: here before. But it's just that, like the inertia of

1104
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:20,160
Speaker 2: creativity is always in that house, which is cool.

1105
00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:22,960
Speaker 1: Another person that played I'm talking about the last show, Yeah,

1106
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:26,840
Speaker 1: that I think is so special and lover and I

1107
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:28,399
Speaker 1: would take a pellet for her.

1108
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:31,640
Speaker 2: Not a bullet, Not a bullet, a pellet, a Pellett paintball.

1109
00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:35,640
Speaker 1: Is Jillian Jacqueline, Yes, like and Jill. I took Jilly

1110
00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:37,640
Speaker 1: into a bunch of shows with me, like two tours ago.

1111
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:39,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I think I when I was going out

1112
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:41,879
Speaker 2: with you, I asked her about it. She's like, he's the.

1113
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:44,080
Speaker 1: Best oh good. Yeah, yeah, not creepy at all.

1114
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:45,960
Speaker 2: He's like, she's like, he's super mean.

1115
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:49,120
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well I just would also get like, not me

1116
00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:50,560
Speaker 1: at all. I mean I don't get this, but I

1117
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:55,000
Speaker 1: that's good. Yeah, people you can ask because this sounds weird. Man. Yeah,

1118
00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:58,840
Speaker 1: it's like some dudes like, hey, come and yes you know,

1119
00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:05,279
Speaker 1: yeah I know. Yeah, so you're not creepy. I'm not.

1120
00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:07,360
Speaker 1: I don't think I'm creepy at Also, thank you for

1121
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:11,399
Speaker 1: validating my thought that I am not great. But yeah,

1122
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:13,040
Speaker 1: Jillian is really amazing.

1123
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:18,640
Speaker 2: She's awesome, and she's an unreal songwriter and she's Tofer's

1124
00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:19,319
Speaker 2: sister in law.

1125
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:19,839
Speaker 1: That's right.

1126
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:24,360
Speaker 2: So it's just that God to love incest Well.

1127
00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:29,759
Speaker 1: They don't do it, yeah, but that it's incestual but

1128
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:31,680
Speaker 1: not really, not like Arkansas and not like where I'm from,

1129
00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:32,719
Speaker 1: where we do it with our family.

1130
00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:35,239
Speaker 2: Yeah exactly exactly. That's how you got here.

1131
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:38,719
Speaker 1: Exactly how else would I be here? You know what

1132
00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:41,640
Speaker 1: school is. I do know you, and I've seen you

1133
00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:44,800
Speaker 1: play and I've heard your voice. Not interesting voice, but

1134
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:46,840
Speaker 1: I've heard your voice. What you speak for, what you

1135
00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:48,560
Speaker 1: speak at people are going to love you.

1136
00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:49,279
Speaker 2: Thank you.

1137
00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:53,920
Speaker 1: It's just a matter of time, and it's the strategy

1138
00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:56,400
Speaker 1: of what you're deciding, what your label decides. It's like

1139
00:52:57,160 --> 00:52:58,800
Speaker 1: people are going to love you. There are certain people

1140
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:03,400
Speaker 1: that I meet in this town on What's two stories

1141
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:06,440
Speaker 1: and just pops into my head. One Ella was on

1142
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:11,440
Speaker 1: the show yesterday. We haven't aired it yet, but she

1143
00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:14,040
Speaker 1: when that song sharted to blow up, and they weren't

1144
00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:15,640
Speaker 1: like put her radio. I just started playing it because

1145
00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:17,160
Speaker 1: I was like, this is a good song and I

1146
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:17,719
Speaker 1: love it and.

1147
00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:21,080
Speaker 2: It's different exactly, like thank you for giving us something different.

1148
00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:24,480
Speaker 1: It's awesome exactly. And I was like, this is fun

1149
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:28,279
Speaker 1: and really good because of course she's talking in it.

1150
00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:32,040
Speaker 1: But then the chorus it's grace. And so I played

1151
00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:34,319
Speaker 1: the song and it's not like I found the song

1152
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:37,040
Speaker 1: it blew up. But I started playing the song a

1153
00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:39,600
Speaker 1: little bit and I was like, let's get her up here.

1154
00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:42,200
Speaker 1: And so she came up. And Riley was up with

1155
00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:47,000
Speaker 1: her yesterday too. But some real she has texture about her.

1156
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:52,160
Speaker 2: Yeah she's a bad ass, yes, and real country girl.

1157
00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:56,319
Speaker 1: Right there, and like said stuff, Yeah, she's smart. And

1158
00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:58,400
Speaker 1: there's a difference in coming into doing a fine interview

1159
00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:01,960
Speaker 1: and answering questions and saying things then coming in and

1160
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:03,160
Speaker 1: she just was like, this is why I am. I'm

1161
00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:05,319
Speaker 1: just gonna I'm just gonna say stuff. And she wasn't

1162
00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:08,719
Speaker 1: like worried about it, like it was. That was refreshing

1163
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:09,920
Speaker 1: and the first time I'd ever met her.

1164
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:11,080
Speaker 2: She's a refreshing person.

1165
00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:12,920
Speaker 1: And when you mentioned her earlier, I was like, me, Pin,

1166
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:15,839
Speaker 1: I'm gonna come back to that because she but she

1167
00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:17,919
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna put you guys in a category here.

1168
00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:20,319
Speaker 1: I didn't know her. She had the song blow Up

1169
00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:23,440
Speaker 1: Somebody that I met probably seven years ago, and I've

1170
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:26,400
Speaker 1: been a diehard fan of her as a creative and

1171
00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:30,200
Speaker 1: she's just now starting to pop and she was on

1172
00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:34,320
Speaker 1: my show today. We recorded with her is Cassie Ashton

1173
00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:39,040
Speaker 1: Love and seven years ago, I'm.

1174
00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:41,440
Speaker 2: Like, thank you for all catching on right, It's crazy.

1175
00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:44,360
Speaker 1: I was so blown away by her then, and I

1176
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:46,080
Speaker 1: would have her coming. She'd played with Ryan and she

1177
00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:48,680
Speaker 1: played shows with me, and I would be amazed that

1178
00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:51,560
Speaker 1: nobody else was so amazed. She was a huge deal. Yeah,

1179
00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:53,719
Speaker 1: I would be like, how are people missing this?

1180
00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:54,759
Speaker 2: I don't get that.

1181
00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:58,440
Speaker 1: And but now she performed today and again she's now

1182
00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:01,160
Speaker 1: she's got to she's it's hitting for her, and I

1183
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:03,919
Speaker 1: just always felt like, I don't know what the wind

1184
00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:06,280
Speaker 1: needs to be like. But people are going to love

1185
00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:08,800
Speaker 1: her because she's she's definitely different.

1186
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:11,360
Speaker 2: Yes, she is herself, yes, And.

1187
00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:15,759
Speaker 1: That's that's the that's the vibe that I get from you,

1188
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:17,719
Speaker 1: not just today but in general. Because we've been able

1189
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:19,480
Speaker 1: to spend a little bit of time together, people are

1190
00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:22,359
Speaker 1: going to love you. And I hope it's in eight months,

1191
00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:25,160
Speaker 1: twelve months. I hope it's on that level. You're already

1192
00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:28,400
Speaker 1: growing your base. And if it's not eight months or

1193
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:29,960
Speaker 1: twelve months, it's going to be. At some point people

1194
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:31,359
Speaker 1: are going to love you. There's only a few people

1195
00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:34,160
Speaker 1: that I feel that way about. I'm excited for you.

1196
00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:37,320
Speaker 1: It's crazy. It's super cool. And when people meet you

1197
00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:39,759
Speaker 1: either are like, oh, like Carter, Wow, she's really white.

1198
00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:41,439
Speaker 1: Then all of a sudden you slice them and dice

1199
00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:43,279
Speaker 1: them and then you fire them and then they're like,

1200
00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:45,719
Speaker 1: I don't work for you, Like you're fired anyway. You

1201
00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:47,320
Speaker 1: know she's hardcore.

1202
00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:49,279
Speaker 2: Because that McDonald's you're fired.

1203
00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:50,400
Speaker 1: Bitch, How did you encode for me?

1204
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:56,879
Speaker 2: We met at a wedding. Actually this there's a videographer

1205
00:55:56,960 --> 00:56:00,440
Speaker 2: company called running bear and one of the it's a

1206
00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:03,200
Speaker 2: brother sister duo and the girl's name is Alexa, and

1207
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:06,359
Speaker 2: she got married and we were sat next to each

1208
00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:10,560
Speaker 2: other at a table and I was like stoned and

1209
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:13,920
Speaker 2: didn't know anyone feeling weird, and he was just I mean,

1210
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:16,160
Speaker 2: you know, Tofer, he talked to me right off the bat,

1211
00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:19,000
Speaker 2: and I mean, I feel like we were like brother

1212
00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:21,400
Speaker 2: sister in a past life or something, because he just

1213
00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:24,160
Speaker 2: feels like family. And ever since then we've just been

1214
00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:27,839
Speaker 2: writing together. I think that was three years ago, and

1215
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:30,160
Speaker 2: I don't know. It is stuff like that where I

1216
00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:32,640
Speaker 2: look back and I'm like, I thought I had it

1217
00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:35,799
Speaker 2: figured out writing wise before I met Tofer, and not

1218
00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:38,560
Speaker 2: that like he's made me the writer I am. But

1219
00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:42,120
Speaker 2: all the things that happen past the point where you

1220
00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:44,600
Speaker 2: thought you were ready is how you actually get ready

1221
00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:47,480
Speaker 2: for a moment, I think. And so I'm like, it

1222
00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:50,439
Speaker 2: can take another year, that's fine with me, but I'm

1223
00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:53,200
Speaker 2: I'm like getting ready for the moment.

1224
00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:55,759
Speaker 1: You know it in this What's funny is in five

1225
00:56:55,840 --> 00:56:58,400
Speaker 1: years you're gonna look back and go And I thought,

1226
00:56:58,120 --> 00:56:59,920
Speaker 1: I know what I was talking about, fib, But but you

1227
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:03,320
Speaker 1: should always be like that. Yeah, I mean it's.

1228
00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:05,279
Speaker 2: I saw some quote. I don't I'm not going to

1229
00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:07,880
Speaker 2: say the quote right, but it was like, your art

1230
00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:10,520
Speaker 2: isn't real enough if you're not embarrassed by it a

1231
00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:11,040
Speaker 2: year later.

1232
00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:16,479
Speaker 1: That's exactly. I hate watching listening to anything I've ever done.

1233
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:19,560
Speaker 1: I won't be watching because I'm no. It makes me

1234
00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:22,280
Speaker 1: cringe if I watch, like even something old of me

1235
00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:24,200
Speaker 1: on TV from a year two years ago, I know,

1236
00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:27,800
Speaker 1: but then I can then I appreciate that because that

1237
00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:30,440
Speaker 1: means that I feel like I must have grown beyond

1238
00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:31,080
Speaker 1: what that is.

1239
00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:34,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I want to be the person that's like

1240
00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:37,280
Speaker 2: I killed that every time. I mean sometimes you're like

1241
00:57:37,320 --> 00:57:38,080
Speaker 2: I always.

1242
00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:40,280
Speaker 1: Want to kill it right then, but like a year later,

1243
00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:43,360
Speaker 1: I should be like, you know what, I'm better than

1244
00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:44,880
Speaker 1: that now. I should be that way.

1245
00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:47,760
Speaker 2: That's my goal always. I'm trying to only be competitive

1246
00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:48,720
Speaker 2: with myself.

1247
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:50,560
Speaker 1: Nowadays, Yeah, I wish that were my goal. I still

1248
00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:53,720
Speaker 1: want to kill everybody. There's some people I'm just like

1249
00:57:53,800 --> 00:57:55,680
Speaker 1: I got I'm not going to mention any names here.

1250
00:57:55,840 --> 00:57:57,880
Speaker 1: I would tell you off off, Mike, but I got

1251
00:57:57,920 --> 00:58:00,320
Speaker 1: a certain artist called the request line this morning to

1252
00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:03,440
Speaker 1: fight me, to.

1253
00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:05,840
Speaker 2: Fight you, to be like he's pissed.

1254
00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:10,280
Speaker 1: No, no, to he was pissed at something. I like

1255
00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:14,080
Speaker 1: that accurate. Yeah, I mean fight, he didn't want to.

1256
00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:15,480
Speaker 1: He probably would have come to punch me in the

1257
00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:20,280
Speaker 1: it's well known. Yeah, I don't have a great relationship

1258
00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:22,520
Speaker 1: with them, and we've him and we've publicly not had

1259
00:58:22,520 --> 00:58:26,840
Speaker 1: a great relationship. We've gone at huh. I bet you

1260
00:58:26,840 --> 00:58:30,680
Speaker 1: don't give me give me one letter in the first name.

1261
00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:35,800
Speaker 1: Don't even said don't do first letter yank. Oh no, no, no, we.

1262
00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:38,520
Speaker 2: Had a totally different that's.

1263
00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:40,840
Speaker 1: A funny story, and that's a great that's an awesome story. No, no,

1264
00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:46,480
Speaker 1: this person is like current current ish digging. I'll tell

1265
00:58:46,480 --> 00:58:49,000
Speaker 1: you rafter and you might even be friends with them,

1266
00:58:49,040 --> 00:58:54,040
Speaker 1: and that's okay. Yeah, probably not, Mike, you think. I

1267
00:58:54,080 --> 00:58:55,920
Speaker 1: don't think so. I don't think she is either. She's

1268
00:58:55,960 --> 00:59:00,960
Speaker 1: too cool. But I this person had done some things

1269
00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:08,280
Speaker 1: that I did not feel were I like how some

1270
00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:12,240
Speaker 1: things were handled professionally, but they were personally professional, meaning

1271
00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:14,760
Speaker 1: that he dick me over in a way. That and

1272
00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:18,000
Speaker 1: then no apology and then just like we're gonna a

1273
00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:21,040
Speaker 1: total blowoff, like it was no respect. I shouldn't say

1274
00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:25,280
Speaker 1: it was a very and I might have been on

1275
00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:29,680
Speaker 1: stage made some jokes that were quite funny, and then

1276
00:59:29,720 --> 00:59:31,760
Speaker 1: they may have come back, and they might have come

1277
00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:35,280
Speaker 1: back at me on social media, and I might So

1278
00:59:35,800 --> 00:59:37,840
Speaker 1: it's we've gone back and forth. And I said yesterday

1279
00:59:38,600 --> 00:59:42,360
Speaker 1: on the show, and we can bleep this part, Mike,

1280
00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:45,840
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say of our context. Yeah, and we'll end

1281
00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:47,680
Speaker 1: with this because I could do this for two hours,

1282
00:59:47,720 --> 00:59:50,400
Speaker 1: so you just like talk about stuff. I also have

1283
00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:52,600
Speaker 1: people here, and I've been here now long. I've been

1284
00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:54,760
Speaker 1: here longer than you. I'm older than you. But I

1285
00:59:54,800 --> 00:59:58,040
Speaker 1: had a very similar experience in getting here and being

1286
00:59:58,040 --> 01:00:02,200
Speaker 1: a bit different and going through the process of people

1287
01:00:02,280 --> 01:00:06,480
Speaker 1: not understanding me at all. Yes, and I'm like, I'm

1288
01:00:06,520 --> 01:00:08,160
Speaker 1: pretty nice and like I'm I'm kind of.

1289
01:00:08,120 --> 01:00:10,000
Speaker 2: Cool and I'm not going to make you understand me.

1290
01:00:10,080 --> 01:00:13,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just right. And so I was like, I'm

1291
01:00:13,280 --> 01:00:14,920
Speaker 1: not I'm just decided I'm not gonna be friends with

1292
01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:17,400
Speaker 1: any artists because I want to always be able to

1293
01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:19,080
Speaker 1: say my opinion. Like that was my point. Don't want

1294
01:00:19,080 --> 01:00:20,640
Speaker 1: to be friends with no one. I don't trust them anyway.

1295
01:00:20,920 --> 01:00:23,400
Speaker 1: No artists am I going to be friends with. However,

1296
01:00:24,080 --> 01:00:25,840
Speaker 1: there were a few that I'm like throwing my best

1297
01:00:25,840 --> 01:00:27,640
Speaker 1: friends because they wore me down and I had to

1298
01:00:27,640 --> 01:00:30,000
Speaker 1: start to realize, you know what, I can't think everybody's

1299
01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:30,560
Speaker 1: a douchebag.

1300
01:00:31,240 --> 01:00:33,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's good to be skeptical.

1301
01:00:33,400 --> 01:00:36,200
Speaker 1: I'm totally a skeptical yeah, all the time. But there's

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Speaker 1: a few that have broken through where I'm like, they're

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Speaker 1: really great people. So I would like to encourage you

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Speaker 1: have a few.

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Speaker 2: It's not like you have a few.

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Speaker 1: In the industry's weird though, because you never quite know

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Speaker 1: what's up with them. Like what I just felt like

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Speaker 1: somebody was using me for something.

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Speaker 2: They are right until you get to that point where

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Speaker 2: they are like we're just humans.

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Speaker 1: Right, or they're they have I'd be very general, they

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Speaker 1: have more than I do in this area, so they

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Speaker 1: don't need me Like that was a big deal.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's probably nice.

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Speaker 1: Like one of my dearest friends not a bullet take

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Speaker 1: a really strong pellet for is Brett Eldridge, and he's

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Speaker 1: super anxiety written like I am, we're totally weirdos we

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Speaker 1: get scared of him. Tickets sque so that we're like,

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Speaker 1: are there be going to sell? Does anybody like, well,

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Speaker 1: they like us tomorrow, but I wouldn't, you know, But

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Speaker 1: like I trust that guy. Now, I got a couple

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Speaker 1: of those. So I hope you have a couple of those,

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Speaker 1: because you need a couple of those.

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Speaker 2: I do. I've lost a few, but you get one.

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Speaker 1: And my point with Brett was he didn't need me.

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Speaker 1: He had so many more he doesn't need. He needs

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Speaker 1: nothing from me except friendship, and.

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Speaker 2: That's what it should be about.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not though it's not. I don't even try

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Speaker 1: to reader, Mike, and they're sitting there. Okay, So here's

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Speaker 1: what I want to say. Instagram at Carter Faith. TikTok

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Speaker 1: at Carter Faith. All Right, the aftermath it's on ten twelve,

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Speaker 1: So one two Jennifer March April, May, jun July, Augustber October. So, Mike,

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Speaker 1: when this comes out, it won't be October twelve yet,

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Speaker 1: is it? No? It okay, week before so in like

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Speaker 1: a week. Yes, we'll try to know the aftermath. I've

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Speaker 1: not heard it aftermath, so that will be out. You're

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Speaker 1: out doing shows, you do some Carly stuff, some Midland stuff.

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Speaker 2: You're doing some loot grime stuff this fall that'll be announced,

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Speaker 2: and just festivals, random stuff.

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Speaker 1: Do you have merch.

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Speaker 2: I'm making merch because I love merch.

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Speaker 1: Well, I was going to say, too, that's a great

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Speaker 1: way to support an artist that you like if they're

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Speaker 1: not headlining shows is to buy their merch.

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Speaker 2: Yes, please buy my merch. I'm going to bring it.

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Speaker 1: When she makes it. Please buy her merch.

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Speaker 2: It'll be cute, I promise.

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Speaker 1: Well, I don't want it. Then I needed like no,

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Speaker 1: not no, not ugly, no like next, no, no like

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Speaker 1: normal ugly. I was like, I don't want it. Cute.

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Speaker 1: She's like that is ed ugly sre. Yeah, definitely, we'll

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Speaker 1: make it match your face ugly it is. I. I

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Speaker 1: really enjoy you too, Yeah, you really enjoy your two

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Speaker 1: That's yeah. It was really cool. And I'm rooting for you.

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Speaker 1: And whenever you're ready, ready, like and it's that you're

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Speaker 1: you guys are going because you've been on the show,

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Speaker 1: but but that doesn't count whatever. It's like real time

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Speaker 1: and you're like, we're taking this to whatever You're up

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Speaker 1: immediately perfect, So you will be there.

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Speaker 2: I will.

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Speaker 1: I will make sure of it, or I will cancel

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Speaker 1: you from this town because I have that power. No,

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Speaker 1: if I don't this time, be half dead all right

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Speaker 1: Carter Faith and go at Carter Faith. Good to see Carter,

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Speaker 1: Thanks for coming by, Thanks for listening to a Bobby

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Speaker 1: Cast production