WEBVTT - Weirdhouse Cinema Rewind: Virtuosity 0:00:04.360 --> 0:00:08.480 Hey, welcome to Weird House Cinema. Rewind, this is Rob 0:00:08.600 --> 0:00:12.600 Lamb and ooh, today's episode is one that originally aired 0:00:12.640 --> 0:00:17.080 four eleven, twenty twenty five. Yeah, we're talking about Virtuosity, 0:00:17.880 --> 0:00:22.360 starring Academy Award winning actors Denzel Washington and Russell Crowe. 0:00:23.480 --> 0:00:27.440 It is a great example of ninety cyberslop. But man, 0:00:27.560 --> 0:00:29.160 these guys are a lot of fun in it, and 0:00:29.240 --> 0:00:32.560 it's it's a pretty wild film. So without further ado, 0:00:32.800 --> 0:00:33.760 let's jump right in. 0:00:36.600 --> 0:00:42.880 Welcome to Stuff to Blow your Mind, a production of iHeartRadio. 0:00:47.159 --> 0:00:50.160 Hey, welcome to Weird House Cinema. This is Rob Lamb 0:00:50.479 --> 0:00:51.880 and this is Joe McCormick. 0:00:51.960 --> 0:00:54.960 And today we are going to be covering the nineteen 0:00:55.120 --> 0:01:00.240 ninety five action sci fi thriller Virtuosity, a movie that 0:01:00.360 --> 0:01:03.000 you will probably remember even if you haven't seen it, 0:01:03.040 --> 0:01:05.800 because in nineteen ninety five you could not help but 0:01:05.880 --> 0:01:09.480 be exposed to the trailer where Russell Crowe struts through 0:01:09.680 --> 0:01:12.680 a future mall in a baggy purple suit and the 0:01:12.720 --> 0:01:15.840 tune is the Beeg's Staying Alive. It was like one 0:01:15.840 --> 0:01:19.240 of the most iconic uses of a needle drop in 0:01:19.280 --> 0:01:20.680 a trailer from the nineties. 0:01:21.000 --> 0:01:23.080 That's right, that's right, And this one, as we'll discuss, 0:01:23.160 --> 0:01:25.760 does have quite a needle drop score. It also has 0:01:26.400 --> 0:01:28.920 an original score as well, but a lot of needle 0:01:28.959 --> 0:01:33.319 drops in here. It really really sets the tone for 0:01:33.480 --> 0:01:36.280 the mid nineties looking to late nineties feel. 0:01:36.600 --> 0:01:39.160 Yeah, so I want to briefly tell a story of 0:01:39.200 --> 0:01:42.200 the roundabout way we came to feature this movie today. 0:01:42.600 --> 0:01:45.640 So next week is going to be our two hundredth 0:01:45.640 --> 0:01:49.040 episode of Weird House Cinema. I think we still haven't 0:01:49.040 --> 0:01:51.600 picked the movie for next week, but that makes today 0:01:52.160 --> 0:01:55.880 the one hundred and ninety ninth episode. And Rob, when 0:01:55.920 --> 0:01:58.480 you and I were batting ideas around, you mentioned the 0:01:58.960 --> 0:02:02.880 possibility of doing a movie set in the year nineteen 0:02:03.120 --> 0:02:06.400 ninety nine for the one ninety ninth episode. I think 0:02:06.440 --> 0:02:09.080 that was a stroke of genius. And folks, there are 0:02:09.120 --> 0:02:12.000 a lot of dope movies set in ninety nine, usually 0:02:12.040 --> 0:02:16.000 made in the eighties or nineties, imagining nineteen ninety nine 0:02:16.040 --> 0:02:19.880 as a terrible dystopian turning point. So I was looking 0:02:19.880 --> 0:02:23.440 at her options and for a while I thought that 0:02:23.520 --> 0:02:26.680 we were going to be talking about End of Days 0:02:26.919 --> 0:02:30.840 starring Arnold Schwarzenegger. For those of you who mainly remember 0:02:30.960 --> 0:02:34.200 Arnold's roles as a terminator or an elite commando of 0:02:34.200 --> 0:02:37.440 some kind. This is a bit outside his normal range. 0:02:37.480 --> 0:02:40.880 It is a Y two k Anti Christ movie in 0:02:40.919 --> 0:02:43.600 which Arnold has to shoot the devil with a machine 0:02:43.639 --> 0:02:46.480 gun to prevent the titular End of Days. 0:02:46.960 --> 0:02:50.560 Yeah, a movie in which Arnold plays sort of an everyman. 0:02:50.760 --> 0:02:53.240 Also I guess sort of a super cop. But yeah, 0:02:53.520 --> 0:02:55.320 it gets type. I don't want to see Arnold play 0:02:55.320 --> 0:02:58.280 in every Man. I want to see Arnold play like 0:02:58.360 --> 0:03:02.799 a chrom show in Champion that has been forged out 0:03:02.800 --> 0:03:05.920 of trauma and loss into a human weapon. That's what 0:03:05.960 --> 0:03:07.320 I want out of my Arnold roles. 0:03:07.560 --> 0:03:10.200 Well, I think the even weirder thing is the context 0:03:10.240 --> 0:03:14.840 that it's like a religious supernatural thriller. It's like The Omen, 0:03:15.000 --> 0:03:16.160 but with Arnold in it. 0:03:16.440 --> 0:03:16.919 Yeah. 0:03:17.120 --> 0:03:18.839 I haven't seen End of Days in a long time. 0:03:18.880 --> 0:03:21.040 I barely remember it. But Rob, didn't you say there's 0:03:21.040 --> 0:03:23.560 something about the year nineteen ninety nine in it that 0:03:23.760 --> 0:03:25.240 like plays into a prophecy? 0:03:25.800 --> 0:03:28.600 Yeah? Yeah. The only things I remember are that, a, 0:03:28.800 --> 0:03:31.160 there's a really cool bat creature in it, but also 0:03:31.320 --> 0:03:36.000 very like brown and dark, very saturated looking, but still 0:03:36.120 --> 0:03:39.040 cool bat Monster, And then there's this whole thing about 0:03:39.040 --> 0:03:42.960 how well six' six' six really means nine ninety nine 0:03:43.000 --> 0:03:46.440 because in dreams numbers are inverted or upside down. Or 0:03:46.480 --> 0:03:50.160 something IT'S it's i remember its sounding pretty cool until 0:03:50.160 --> 0:03:51.160 you thought about it for like. 0:03:51.200 --> 0:03:55.680 Two seconds, So anyway End of days that is deliciously 0:03:55.720 --> 0:03:59.360 weird as. A pitch it does apparently have glorious delivery 0:03:59.360 --> 0:04:02.560 on the theme of nineteen, ninety nine BUT unfortunately i 0:04:02.600 --> 0:04:05.240 started watching that, ONE man i was just not feeling 0:04:05.280 --> 0:04:08.600 it for. This week the vibes were a little too serious, 0:04:08.640 --> 0:04:12.080 and grim a little too much kidnapping of babies and 0:04:12.120 --> 0:04:14.880 pouring rattlesnake blood. On them it just kind of bummed, 0:04:14.880 --> 0:04:17.320 Me OUT so i Bailed on End. Of days maybe, 0:04:17.360 --> 0:04:19.040 WE'LL come i. Don't know maybe if you get past those, 0:04:19.080 --> 0:04:23.000 early scenes it. Gets FUNNIER but i wasn't feeling it, 0:04:23.040 --> 0:04:25.760 this Week and I'M glad i ended up bailing because 0:04:25.800 --> 0:04:28.400 the NEXT movie i checked out was another one said 0:04:28.400 --> 0:04:31.200 in nineteen, ninety nine but in in a very, different 0:04:31.200 --> 0:04:34.440 direction and that IS as, i said nineteen Ninety, five's 0:04:34.520 --> 0:04:39.560 Virtuosity Starring denzel washington as an ace cop with a 0:04:39.600 --> 0:04:43.800 with a, tragic backstory a, redemption arc and a rarely mentioned, 0:04:43.839 --> 0:04:49.159 bionic arm and Also Starring russell crowe as a synthetic 0:04:49.320 --> 0:04:53.240 computer game villain raised in a sort of digital nursery 0:04:53.400 --> 0:04:56.400 with a great teacher to, student ratio but all the 0:04:56.440 --> 0:04:56.960 teachers are. 0:04:57.000 --> 0:05:00.160 Serial killers, You know i'm just now realizing that this 0:05:00.200 --> 0:05:02.560 movie does have something in Common with End. Of days 0:05:02.800 --> 0:05:05.719 both of these films are about like a sort of 0:05:05.760 --> 0:05:10.160 everyman cop type figure going Up Against. Evil Incarnate an End, 0:05:10.200 --> 0:05:13.000 of Days It's evil incarnate because It Is gabriel byrne 0:05:13.080 --> 0:05:16.120 as the devil who in ONE scene i Believe peace 0:05:16.160 --> 0:05:20.440 fire is pea. Straight fire and in this movie we 0:05:20.560 --> 0:05:22.760 have pure evil in the sense that we have A 0:05:24.480 --> 0:05:28.360 super ai trained on serial killers and mad men that 0:05:29.279 --> 0:05:34.400 will mild spoiler here it's in, the trailer will take 0:05:34.880 --> 0:05:38.360 physical form in the real world thanks TO three d printing. 0:05:38.600 --> 0:05:41.000 Exactly right and that actually brings us to one of 0:05:41.040 --> 0:05:42.840 the MAIN things i wanted to talk about at the, 0:05:42.880 --> 0:05:46.840 top here and that is that virtuosity is like a 0:05:47.279 --> 0:05:52.400 core example of a nineteen nineties SUBGENRE that i LOVE 0:05:52.960 --> 0:05:57.360 that i would here like to dub cyberslop movies from, 0:05:57.360 --> 0:06:01.119 the nineties where somebody gets sucked into, a computer Where 0:06:01.160 --> 0:06:04.840 the internet tries to, kill you where a virtual reality game. 0:06:04.880 --> 0:06:07.919 Becomes sentient, you know, he's learning he's evolving at a, 0:06:07.960 --> 0:06:11.240 geometric rate and then at the end you've got a 0:06:11.279 --> 0:06:14.719 hack into the mainframe to kill. The, monster now it 0:06:14.800 --> 0:06:17.600 might take more than one episode for us to like 0:06:17.680 --> 0:06:21.159 fully refine our definition. Of CYBERSLOP but i was just, 0:06:21.400 --> 0:06:22.760 you KNOW when i was working on the, OUTLINE here 0:06:22.760 --> 0:06:24.200 i was trying to think of a few things these 0:06:24.200 --> 0:06:26.640 movies seem to have in common that make them interesting. 0:06:26.720 --> 0:06:29.200 To me one of the things they have in common 0:06:29.240 --> 0:06:33.839 is that they almost always have ATROCIOUS EARLY cgi cgi 0:06:33.920 --> 0:06:37.160 that was not ready but here it. Is anyway and 0:06:37.279 --> 0:06:41.240 usually like at, some point either the villainous entity or 0:06:41.279 --> 0:06:45.120 the MacGuffin of the movie will be represented as, a floating, 0:06:45.520 --> 0:06:50.560 spinning icosahedron and then when, it's destroyed it shatters into 0:06:50.560 --> 0:06:53.280 a bunch. Of triangles you know Exactly what i'm, Talking, about. 0:06:53.160 --> 0:06:56.159 Yeah kind of a mind's eide death star sort. Of, 0:06:56.240 --> 0:06:59.080 Moment yeah and thinking about this MADE me i went 0:06:59.120 --> 0:07:01.000 BACK and i watched a few scenes from The original 0:07:01.040 --> 0:07:03.320 TRON because i was curious, it's like did they have 0:07:03.360 --> 0:07:06.760 a moment like this where where the main AI, the 0:07:06.880 --> 0:07:12.360 mcp does? It explode it, Doesn't explode but so maybe 0:07:12.360 --> 0:07:15.000 there's another film that really got there first with the exploding. 0:07:15.040 --> 0:07:16.840 DIGITAL head i. 0:07:16.800 --> 0:07:19.880 Think, For me tron is. Not cyberslop it sort of, 0:07:19.920 --> 0:07:24.840 predates it and the cyberslab genre is derived from Movies 0:07:24.920 --> 0:07:28.760 like tron and also kind Of degrades tron's level. Of 0:07:28.800 --> 0:07:30.040 imagination if that. 0:07:30.120 --> 0:07:34.280 Makes. Sense, yeah yeah speaking, OF though i was glancing 0:07:34.280 --> 0:07:36.280 at those Scenes from TRON and i was really taken 0:07:36.360 --> 0:07:39.800 aback at how colorful and vivid. Everything is and this 0:07:39.840 --> 0:07:42.320 is PROBABLY because i Haven't watched tron since it was 0:07:42.360 --> 0:07:45.600 LIKE on tv on an old school television back in. 0:07:45.640 --> 0:07:47.680 The DAY but i, was, like wow maybe we really 0:07:47.720 --> 0:07:50.400 need to come back And. Watch, Tron oh i'd definitely 0:07:50.440 --> 0:07:50.840 be down for. 0:07:50.880 --> 0:07:52.560 DOING it i watched that one a LOT when i was. A, 0:07:52.640 --> 0:07:56.600 kid okay another thing about, CYBERSLAP movies i feel like 0:07:56.680 --> 0:08:01.720 they tend to, stylize technology like the technology of the 0:08:01.800 --> 0:08:05.880 setting in amusing and sometimes even sort of thought. Provoking 0:08:05.920 --> 0:08:09.800 ways so if this, makes sense it is not just 0:08:10.040 --> 0:08:14.680 that the characters within the cyberslot movie have a particular 0:08:14.800 --> 0:08:19.760 style and. Fashion choices but it's like the technosphere itself 0:08:20.200 --> 0:08:23.680 has chosen, a style a. Personal style so you get 0:08:23.760 --> 0:08:28.240 movies where tech is goth or movies where Tech Is, 0:08:28.440 --> 0:08:31.640 miami vice, you know neon colors and the. Shoulder pads 0:08:32.000 --> 0:08:35.640 sometimes tech, is preppy and very often tech. 0:08:35.800 --> 0:08:39.079 Is. Punk, yeah yeah because of course tech should, be 0:08:39.160 --> 0:08:42.160 punk because the whole genre has its roots, in cyberpunk 0:08:42.679 --> 0:08:45.120 generally with very strong connections to the literary Work Of. 0:08:45.120 --> 0:08:48.760 William gibson but we could do a deeper dive easily 0:08:48.800 --> 0:08:50.520 that gets, into like, you know what are the earliest 0:08:50.559 --> 0:08:53.520 examples of sci fi plot lines in which someone is 0:08:53.559 --> 0:08:56.559 inside of a simulation or a virtual world and it 0:08:56.600 --> 0:08:56.959 goes back. 0:08:57.000 --> 0:08:59.400 Several, decades yeah and a lot of these movies are 0:08:59.480 --> 0:09:04.120 essentially Borrowing From william gibson, type writing but very much dumbing. 0:09:04.120 --> 0:09:07.240 It down another THING that i think is interesting about, 0:09:07.280 --> 0:09:10.079 these movies it's not unique. To them they share this 0:09:10.200 --> 0:09:15.000 with a lot of other. Nineties subgenres they feel very 0:09:15.080 --> 0:09:18.320 much like they're from the end. Of history and one 0:09:18.400 --> 0:09:22.439 reason for that is that every piece of actual specific 0:09:22.760 --> 0:09:26.880 culture that we get in these movies feels meaningless. And 0:09:26.960 --> 0:09:30.720 interchangeable like it could be swapped out with any other 0:09:30.840 --> 0:09:35.160 piece of culture from the same. Object class so, you 0:09:35.200 --> 0:09:38.120 know it's just a world where it's like insert work of, 0:09:38.360 --> 0:09:43.800 art here insert political. Issue here the cultural objects do 0:09:43.840 --> 0:09:47.640 not seem to really mean anything. In themselves they don't 0:09:47.679 --> 0:09:51.560 bring their specific meanings and values. From reality they're just 0:09:51.760 --> 0:09:54.960 examples of a type. Of thing it, feels like, you 0:09:55.000 --> 0:09:58.320 know they're selected from a drop. DOWN menu i really 0:09:58.400 --> 0:10:01.400 associate this kind of storytelling with movies from the nineties, 0:10:01.440 --> 0:10:04.040 in general but Especially these cyberslot movies. 0:10:04.080 --> 0:10:07.840 HAVE this i wonder if there's, a case and to, 0:10:07.880 --> 0:10:10.240 be clear very, broad Case and i'm sure there are 0:10:10.320 --> 0:10:13.040 plenty of counter, examples HERE but i wonder how much 0:10:13.040 --> 0:10:16.080 of this might have to do with having like a 0:10:16.120 --> 0:10:21.200 lot of up and coming filmmakers in, the nineties maybe 0:10:21.400 --> 0:10:28.520 more like tech first style first directors and, you know screenwriters, 0:10:28.559 --> 0:10:33.400 as well tackling these films informed by the models that 0:10:33.679 --> 0:10:36.720 they grew up on from, the eighties from the, seventies 0:10:36.960 --> 0:10:42.920 especially that are taking a more, like direct thoughtful approach 0:10:43.360 --> 0:10:48.160 in some cases to actual social issues and, political issues 0:10:48.480 --> 0:10:51.199 and so there's sort of maybe in some cases, at least, 0:10:51.240 --> 0:10:54.840 you know echoing, the form but without really grasping. 0:10:54.840 --> 0:10:57.680 The, substance, YEAH yeah i think that may be on. 0:10:57.800 --> 0:11:00.560 To something i'll have to think some more. About that, but, 0:11:00.600 --> 0:11:02.640 then also this very LAST point i want to Make 0:11:02.679 --> 0:11:06.320 about CYBERSLOP is i think the most, important one and 0:11:06.360 --> 0:11:10.040 that is that these movies are at the same time 0:11:10.480 --> 0:11:16.960 both quaint and uncanny in the way they depict technologies like, VIRTUAL, 0:11:17.000 --> 0:11:22.040 reality Ai, the internet and. Digital media AND what i 0:11:22.080 --> 0:11:26.560 mean by, that is on, one hand it's genuinely so 0:11:26.840 --> 0:11:30.360 cute that somebody in the year nineteen ninety three decided 0:11:30.400 --> 0:11:32.920 to write a whole screenplay about Like. The internet, you 0:11:32.920 --> 0:11:36.079 know it's some Kind of, internet thriller and it obviously 0:11:36.080 --> 0:11:39.640 has such a vague understanding of What the internet is 0:11:39.920 --> 0:11:43.320 and how. It works you'll have like characters navigating cyberspace with, 0:11:43.360 --> 0:11:45.960 a joystick, you know that's how you get Through, The 0:11:46.000 --> 0:11:51.000 internet and so it's. Just adorable thinking about that kind 0:11:51.040 --> 0:11:53.960 of relationship to technology is like looking at a puppy. 0:11:54.000 --> 0:11:59.320 Falling asleep on the, other hand stories, like this with their, 0:11:59.440 --> 0:12:06.480 very loose, technically inaccurate, overly concrete, overly personalized almost symbolic 0:12:06.640 --> 0:12:11.840 depictions of, these technologies can feel weirdly prescient on the, 0:12:11.880 --> 0:12:16.800 metaphorical level usually in their ability to imagine what it 0:12:17.040 --> 0:12:20.840 feels like to be acted upon by, these technologies in 0:12:20.880 --> 0:12:23.320 their maturity in the future we live. In, now so, 0:12:23.400 --> 0:12:28.559 for example imagine A hypothetical cyberslot movie from nineteen ninety 0:12:28.559 --> 0:12:32.400 six where somebody Hacks the internet so That the net 0:12:32.600 --> 0:12:36.680 becomes a self evolving malevolent entity that wants to. Destroy 0:12:36.800 --> 0:12:40.360 you it's both like dumb in nineteen ninety six and 0:12:40.400 --> 0:12:43.560 it takes a kind of technological ignorance to, write it 0:12:44.160 --> 0:12:48.240 but it also captures something very real about what it 0:12:48.280 --> 0:12:51.400 would come to feel like to Be an internet user 0:12:51.440 --> 0:12:51.880 in twenty. 0:12:51.920 --> 0:12:54.880 Twenty. Five, Yeah, YEAH plus i guess we have to 0:12:55.080 --> 0:12:57.240 remind ourselves that a lot of, these films they are 0:12:57.800 --> 0:13:00.640 exploitive to a. Certain extent there's some sort of like t, 0:13:00.640 --> 0:13:06.600 exploitation film and, you know you're often exp you're exploiting, 0:13:06.600 --> 0:13:09.720 a fear and fears are not always completely formed and certainly. 0:13:09.760 --> 0:13:13.760 Not Rational like i'm thinking about smart killer smart house 0:13:13.800 --> 0:13:15.640 movies from. THE nineties i remember one In The Sci 0:13:15.640 --> 0:13:18.640 fi channel where there was like a hand that went 0:13:18.679 --> 0:13:20.520 around on a little track on the ceiling and the 0:13:20.600 --> 0:13:23.880 house and like all that like that's, completely ridiculous, BUT 0:13:24.600 --> 0:13:27.240 like i don't doubt for a second that it comes 0:13:27.280 --> 0:13:31.959 from a legitimate fear that arises based on just what people, 0:13:31.960 --> 0:13:33.800 were saying like the houses of the future were going to, 0:13:33.880 --> 0:13:36.960 Be like and that fear maybe is not, completely gone maybe, 0:13:37.000 --> 0:13:39.600 it's matured maybe it's changed form, a BIT but i 0:13:39.600 --> 0:13:41.640 think we still have that sort of fear and it 0:13:41.720 --> 0:13:46.040 still gets poked and kindled by various news stories, about 0:13:46.559 --> 0:13:48.000 oh your toaster is watching you and. 0:13:48.200 --> 0:13:52.800 So, forth, yeah exactly like that vision was overly simplified and, 0:13:52.920 --> 0:13:57.080 overly concrete but actually reality did catch up to the 0:13:57.240 --> 0:14:00.680 feeling of that plot in. A way so perhaps we 0:14:00.679 --> 0:14:02.560 can explore more about this as we, Go ON but 0:14:02.600 --> 0:14:07.120 i really think that irony is the Case. With virtuosity on, 0:14:07.120 --> 0:14:11.240 One hand virtuosity is quite simple minded and literal in 0:14:11.280 --> 0:14:15.920 its engagement with the, technology themes but there are some 0:14:16.200 --> 0:14:19.920 things in it that feel unsettlingly resonant in twenty, twenty 0:14:19.920 --> 0:14:23.080 five especially in the context of a movie that is 0:14:23.080 --> 0:14:27.360 in most ways extremely nineteen ninety five's version of nineteen. 0:14:27.440 --> 0:14:30.560 Ninety. Nine, yeah yeah we'll get into this a, lot 0:14:30.600 --> 0:14:32.760 more BUT certainly i think there are various world building 0:14:32.920 --> 0:14:36.720 details and choices and virtuosity that hit with a kind 0:14:36.760 --> 0:14:39.880 of almost idiocricy, like accuracy, you know like there's a 0:14:39.880 --> 0:14:42.520 certain amount of maybe in a loose black comedy to. 0:14:42.600 --> 0:14:45.000 The, choice yeah, you're, like oh that's a. 0:14:45.000 --> 0:14:48.440 Little close and then in its, main focus, of course 0:14:48.480 --> 0:14:50.680 we have an out OF control ai menace that gets 0:14:50.680 --> 0:14:52.320 ITSELF three d printed so that it can go on 0:14:52.320 --> 0:14:55.520 a viral, killing spree and it really does sweep up 0:14:55.600 --> 0:15:00.200 various pressing anxieties About, the internet, artificial intelligence and in a, 0:15:00.240 --> 0:15:03.240 limited way the future OF three d printing of inorganic and. 0:15:03.400 --> 0:15:06.720 Organic materials i'd agree with you that the themes hit 0:15:06.760 --> 0:15:10.520 harder on LIKE the ai and digital media front than 0:15:10.600 --> 0:15:14.080 on the. Robotics front, BUT still i. Don't know maybe 0:15:14.080 --> 0:15:15.560 one day we'll catch up to the. Robotics. 0:15:15.560 --> 0:15:18.960 ELEMENT yeah i mean at different times when there have 0:15:19.040 --> 0:15:22.960 been accelerations IN three, d printing there have been Moments where, i'm, 0:15:23.000 --> 0:15:25.120 like oh this is Like the internet in all its 0:15:25.160 --> 0:15:28.200 awfulness can now take. Physical form and maybe on SOME 0:15:28.320 --> 0:15:32.280 level i was remembering virtuosity Trailers and, i'm like this is. 0:15:32.320 --> 0:15:36.080 Like virtuosity it's like you thought, of It the internet, 0:15:36.120 --> 0:15:39.600 made it and now it's on, your desk and granted 0:15:39.880 --> 0:15:41.560 we've had a little more time to sort of grow with. 0:15:41.600 --> 0:15:43.480 THAT one i, feel like though there are some still 0:15:43.600 --> 0:15:46.040 dangerous concerns out there in THE three d, printing world 0:15:46.640 --> 0:15:49.440 but for the, MOST part i feel like we've gotten 0:15:49.440 --> 0:15:51.600 a little more accustomed to what it can do for. 0:15:51.680 --> 0:15:54.720 US now i also find it interesting in these various 0:15:54.720 --> 0:15:58.320 films of this subgenre once that often include like a 0:15:58.360 --> 0:16:01.680 digital or, virtual character and they really get TO what 0:16:01.720 --> 0:16:06.680 i will refer to as job, about yes Referencing lawnmower, 0:16:06.720 --> 0:16:09.440 man here which has a, very close very close kinship with, 0:16:09.480 --> 0:16:12.800 this film in which you have a character OR an 0:16:12.760 --> 0:16:15.920 ai entity that becomes a kind of god complex black 0:16:15.960 --> 0:16:19.360 hole of negative. Personal ATTRIBUTES and i think this too 0:16:19.480 --> 0:16:24.320 nicely mirrors fears then as well as fears and sometimes 0:16:24.320 --> 0:16:27.920 realities now about the virtual realm of expression and consumption 0:16:28.920 --> 0:16:32.440 that we have in the digital realm that might allow 0:16:32.520 --> 0:16:36.200 too many barriers of behavior to erode in the shape 0:16:36.200 --> 0:16:40.120 of our virtual self then becomes, something, grotesque dangerous and maybe. 0:16:40.160 --> 0:16:43.280 Even, evil yeah, once again, Right on i'm not going 0:16:43.360 --> 0:16:47.720 TO say I think virtuosity did this. ON purpose i 0:16:47.760 --> 0:16:50.600 think it may be a kind of accidental stumbling into. 0:16:50.640 --> 0:16:53.680 This theme but you're, exactly right it's there and it hits. Hard, 0:16:53.760 --> 0:16:56.120 now now ANOTHER thing i want to mention at, the 0:16:56.160 --> 0:16:59.800 topic just an interesting Parallel with End of days is 0:16:59.840 --> 0:17:02.720 as the almost choice as the alternate reality of. This 0:17:02.800 --> 0:17:06.199 week what's really exquisite about the Pitch for End of 0:17:06.280 --> 0:17:09.480 days is the mismatch between the premise and. The, Star 0:17:10.119 --> 0:17:13.879 right Like Whatever arnold schwarzenegger was, made for it was 0:17:13.960 --> 0:17:17.359 not to like march through cathedrals by candle light trying 0:17:17.400 --> 0:17:20.359 To stop satan from fathering a child. On earth that 0:17:20.520 --> 0:17:24.560 is a, weird fit and with today's movie there is 0:17:24.600 --> 0:17:28.119 something similar going. ON virtuosity i looked. It up it 0:17:28.119 --> 0:17:30.760 did have a mid. Sized budget it wasn't, huge budget 0:17:30.760 --> 0:17:32.639 but it wasn't small. Budget either it was, you know 0:17:33.160 --> 0:17:36.199 mid sized action sci fi kind of, you know in 0:17:36.280 --> 0:17:36.879 the realm of what. 0:17:36.920 --> 0:17:37.120 You'd. 0:17:37.160 --> 0:17:42.440 Expect, Yeah yeah but, it is in both content and execution, 0:17:43.400 --> 0:17:47.640 a bizarre trashy, b movie and yet its two main 0:17:47.720 --> 0:17:52.159 stars are two of, the biggest most, sought after MOST 0:17:52.280 --> 0:17:56.920 respected a, list actors certainly in the, two thousands definitely 0:17:56.920 --> 0:17:59.760 in the Case Of, Denzel washington like the last three Decades. 0:17:59.760 --> 0:18:03.159 Of hollywood it's almost Like If tom hanks was In. 0:18:03.240 --> 0:18:07.040 Lawnmower man it's, just, like oh such a strange thing. 0:18:07.400 --> 0:18:10.439 To imagine Like When russell crowe did, this movie his 0:18:10.520 --> 0:18:13.000 big period was still ahead. Of him But when denzel, 0:18:13.080 --> 0:18:16.480 did this he already Had multiple, oscar nominations He'd Won 0:18:16.520 --> 0:18:20.679 Best supporting. Actor once so it's already deeply strange and 0:18:20.760 --> 0:18:24.720 amusing that you've got the top tier Of future hollywood 0:18:25.240 --> 0:18:28.320 in this dumb killer. Computer movie but what's even more 0:18:28.320 --> 0:18:31.280 odd is that neither of them are phoning. It in 0:18:31.920 --> 0:18:34.800 but both OF them i think are fantastic in. This 0:18:34.920 --> 0:18:38.879 movie they're giving, full efforts really getting into. The characters, 0:18:39.359 --> 0:18:42.119 IN fact i WOULD say i have never Seen A 0:18:42.200 --> 0:18:46.240 russell crowe performance in which he seems to be expressing 0:18:46.320 --> 0:18:48.320 as much joy through acting as he. 0:18:48.359 --> 0:18:49.280 Does here this Is. 0:18:49.320 --> 0:18:53.760 The pinnacle LIKE his oscar nominated roles are comparatively grim. 0:18:53.840 --> 0:18:57.560 And subdued in, this movie you get him is a 0:18:57.800 --> 0:19:01.000 disco strutting synthetic serial killer and he. 0:19:01.400 --> 0:19:06.119 Comes, alive, YEAH yeah i think. YOU'RE right i think 0:19:06.200 --> 0:19:12.040 we've really only seen him get back into broad performances, 0:19:12.160 --> 0:19:14.400 like this maybe in the likes of twenty twenty Two's 0:19:14.400 --> 0:19:16.520 thor Love, and thunder in which he gets To play 0:19:17.560 --> 0:19:21.919 zeus with A ridiculous. Greek accent i'll come back to 0:19:21.960 --> 0:19:24.560 that ONE because I actually i actually like that performance quite. A, 0:19:24.600 --> 0:19:25.480 BIT oh i haven't. 0:19:25.520 --> 0:19:28.240 Seen that that makes me want to see, it THOUGH. 0:19:29.119 --> 0:19:32.920 But, i, agree, like yeah both of these guys are 0:19:33.119 --> 0:19:36.919 arguably better than, this movie but both of them. REALLY 0:19:36.960 --> 0:19:41.040 deliver i, would Say In denzel, washington's case he is 0:19:41.240 --> 0:19:43.600 almost too good for this movie in the sense that 0:19:44.440 --> 0:19:47.359 not that he's not great, in it but a role 0:19:47.440 --> 0:19:51.480 of the sort sometimes hits a little better if you 0:19:51.640 --> 0:19:55.240 have a less skilled actor or an actor that makes, 0:19:55.680 --> 0:19:59.320 stranger choices Whereas, like denzel like all his choices, are 0:19:59.320 --> 0:20:03.600 solid just a complete. Pro here you need somebody maybe a, 0:20:03.640 --> 0:20:07.160 little sloppy a, little greener so that they can shine 0:20:07.560 --> 0:20:10.120 in a role. Like this but that, being said he's. 0:20:10.119 --> 0:20:13.720 Still terrific they're two very different kinds of performances that 0:20:13.760 --> 0:20:19.199 are beyond what is required. By virtuosity denzel gives a 0:20:19.280 --> 0:20:22.600 much more human performance than you would expect his character, 0:20:22.680 --> 0:20:25.800 to Have And russell crowe gives a much more just 0:20:25.840 --> 0:20:30.840 like scenery ingesting huge improvisational energy kind. 0:20:30.840 --> 0:20:30.879 Of. 0:20:30.920 --> 0:20:34.919 Performance, YEAH yeah i would say his performance is like 0:20:35.000 --> 0:20:37.520 a little, bit joker a little bit job the firm 0:20:37.560 --> 0:20:40.840 lawnmower many, and also at least in the, visual sense 0:20:41.200 --> 0:20:44.960 a little Bit Nineties. Peter, gabriel yeah there. You, go. 0:20:53.359 --> 0:20:55.639 Okay we ready for the. Elevator pitch yeah. HIT us 0:20:56.040 --> 0:20:59.040 sid six point seven is a. Computer program he is 0:20:59.080 --> 0:21:03.639 a sadistic virtual super criminal designed FOR a vr training 0:21:03.720 --> 0:21:06.000 environment that will be used to test the cops of. 0:21:06.040 --> 0:21:09.240 The future but the developers are still working the, kinks 0:21:09.280 --> 0:21:11.879 out and in, the meantime they ARE testing sid against 0:21:11.960 --> 0:21:15.280 players from the. Prison population the only one who has 0:21:15.320 --> 0:21:19.040 ever beaten Him Is, parker barnes a former police officer 0:21:19.080 --> 0:21:22.920 who is incarcerated after his vendetta killing of a terrorist 0:21:22.920 --> 0:21:26.159 who murdered his family and also killing several other people in. 0:21:26.200 --> 0:21:30.480 The process but when through a series of, IMPLAUSIBLE events 0:21:30.640 --> 0:21:33.439 sid six point seven gets brought into our world and 0:21:33.440 --> 0:21:36.520 turned into a kind Of MEAT space t one thousand with, 0:21:36.600 --> 0:21:40.320 blueberry blood there's only one man who can. 0:21:40.359 --> 0:21:44.639 Stop, him yep that's. RIGHT on i would also present 0:21:44.680 --> 0:21:47.200 the Idea Of oops SWEET three d printed a. Mass, 0:21:47.280 --> 0:21:49.439 murder yeah that's it's also kind. Of it this is 0:21:49.440 --> 0:21:51.840 the one thing we didn't want, to happen and here. 0:21:51.880 --> 0:21:54.080 We are, All right let's go ahead and listen to 0:21:54.119 --> 0:21:56.920 part Of the keyser trailer because the, main trailer the 0:21:56.920 --> 0:22:00.600 one most, people heard it prominently features the bes, staying 0:22:00.640 --> 0:22:03.960 alive and we want to stay alive here on. The 0:22:04.000 --> 0:22:06.640 SHOW so i didn't want to feature. THAT song i love, 0:22:06.680 --> 0:22:10.000 that song but, you know this is what we're playing. 0:22:19.760 --> 0:22:23.760 In this high tech crime. Prevention facility one man has 0:22:23.800 --> 0:22:29.359 been recruited to play a, simulated game the objective to 0:22:29.520 --> 0:22:33.879 hunt Down The Ultimate Virtual REALITY killer sid six. Point 0:22:33.960 --> 0:22:41.080 seven there's only. One problem the computer change. The program 0:22:41.119 --> 0:22:45.120 now he's in the. Real world. 0:22:46.400 --> 0:22:50.800 He's interactive he doesn't enjoyed a game unless he's playing 0:22:50.800 --> 0:22:56.639 against his. Favorite opponent that's me from the director Of. 0:22:56.760 --> 0:22:58.480 Lawnmower man he's recreating. 0:22:58.560 --> 0:23:00.760 Mass murders so what, you're saying it's who's a complicated 0:23:00.880 --> 0:23:03.240 since six ten on improving? The Original. 0:23:04.200 --> 0:23:07.040 Denzel washington Just because i'm carrying around the joy of 0:23:07.119 --> 0:23:09.200 killing your family inside me doesn't mean you can't. 0:23:09.240 --> 0:23:10.080 Be friends. 0:23:11.560 --> 0:23:12.399 Virtuosity. 0:23:12.760 --> 0:23:13.440 Game over. 0:23:21.240 --> 0:23:26.040 Speaking of beg, STAYING alive i Bet the virtuosity trailer 0:23:26.240 --> 0:23:29.879 IS how i first learned about. That, SONG huh, I 0:23:30.000 --> 0:23:31.600 may i may not have ever heard it. 0:23:31.680 --> 0:23:35.400 BEFORE that, i mean somebody needs to be struttin when 0:23:35.400 --> 0:23:37.800 that song. Is playing and if that song, is playing 0:23:38.119 --> 0:23:40.199 you will soon find. Yourself strutting that's just how. 0:23:40.200 --> 0:23:42.719 It, works oh this may be too embarrassing to say, 0:23:42.760 --> 0:23:44.959 out LOUD but i bet as a KID when I 0:23:45.000 --> 0:23:48.119 Saw russell crowe walking in the blue in the Purple 0:23:48.160 --> 0:23:51.399 suit beg's, ARE playing i probably like strutted around my 0:23:51.480 --> 0:23:52.159 HOUSE after i. 0:23:52.200 --> 0:23:55.440 Saw that. No joke, all right you might, be, wondering, 0:23:55.440 --> 0:23:57.800 WELL hey i want To see virtuosity as well before 0:23:58.000 --> 0:23:59.760 listening to the rest of, the EPISODE or i want 0:23:59.760 --> 0:24:03.320 to later and. So, Forth well virtuosity was a, major 0:24:03.320 --> 0:24:05.119 release so you can find it pretty much wherever you 0:24:05.200 --> 0:24:08.400 choose to get. Your movies for, physical, media however there's 0:24:08.440 --> 0:24:13.680 no beating the Recently Released Vinegar syndrome, ultra release which 0:24:13.720 --> 0:24:16.320 gives us the film newly scanned and restored IN four 0:24:16.400 --> 0:24:20.200 k from its thirty five millimeters original, camera negative along 0:24:20.200 --> 0:24:23.080 with tons of extras like, new extras interviews with the 0:24:23.080 --> 0:24:26.600 director and. Other, folks it's without a doubt the finest 0:24:26.600 --> 0:24:27.920 physical release this film has. 0:24:27.960 --> 0:24:32.520 EVER gotten i Can't Believe vinegar syndrome Release of virtuosity 0:24:32.600 --> 0:24:34.320 is as close as we're ever going to get To 0:24:34.359 --> 0:24:36.119 a criterion collection disc Of. 0:24:36.200 --> 0:24:41.320 Lawnmower, Man Yeah vinegar syndrome, does great, great work and 0:24:41.760 --> 0:24:45.280 this is certainly the. CASE here i rented this from 0:24:45.359 --> 0:24:49.399 videodrome Here, in atlanta, and yeah it. LOOKS great, i 0:24:49.440 --> 0:24:51.679 mean the digital effects are only going to look, so 0:24:51.800 --> 0:24:55.040 polished as, we'll discuss which but, then again that only 0:24:55.080 --> 0:24:58.959 really potentially hurts the film during THE non, vr segments as, 0:24:59.000 --> 0:25:02.040 we'll DISCUSS and i will say that the goofy android 0:25:02.040 --> 0:25:04.919 makeup and other practical effects look. Really great, OH. 0:25:04.840 --> 0:25:06.840 Yeah i mean you wouldn't WANT the cgi to look. 0:25:06.880 --> 0:25:08.359 TOO good i mean that's part of. 0:25:08.400 --> 0:25:11.919 The, charm yeah especially in those the. Simulation. 0:25:12.040 --> 0:25:15.080 Sequences, yeah WELL so i, streamed it but, YOU know 0:25:15.240 --> 0:25:17.000 i got a feeling this might not be the LAST 0:25:17.000 --> 0:25:19.000 time I, watch VIRTUOSITY. 0:25:18.400 --> 0:25:21.359 So i might have to snag. This disc, all right 0:25:21.480 --> 0:25:23.480 let's talk about the people who made, this film starting 0:25:23.520 --> 0:25:26.840 at the Top With brett leonard born nineteen, Fifty nine 0:25:26.920 --> 0:25:30.720 american director of films and, music videos best known for his. 0:25:30.800 --> 0:25:35.080 Pivotal work in nineteen nineties virtual reality, inspired media as 0:25:35.080 --> 0:25:38.520 he Directed both today's film and nineteen Ninety two's The. Lawnmower, 0:25:38.560 --> 0:25:42.000 man that, of course Is the bonker's virtual, reality film 0:25:42.040 --> 0:25:44.840 born out of an original script inspired by the Work 0:25:44.880 --> 0:25:48.600 Of jaron lanier and the production company's desire to Keep 0:25:48.640 --> 0:25:52.000 Adapting stephen king stories they owned the, rights to basically 0:25:52.040 --> 0:25:55.439 by slapping the Title lawnmower man onto a pre. 0:25:55.520 --> 0:25:59.080 Existing script this has nothing to do With the. King 0:25:59.160 --> 0:26:00.439 story is this one of the ones he? 0:26:00.520 --> 0:26:04.880 Sued, over yes it's my understanding that he successfully got 0:26:04.880 --> 0:26:07.679 his name taken off of, this, one, because yeah has 0:26:07.920 --> 0:26:11.159 the original stories about like a crazy satanic lawnmower man 0:26:11.160 --> 0:26:12.960 who eats grass or something to. That effect it. 0:26:13.200 --> 0:26:15.760 Worships The, GOD pan. I, Believe, yeah yeah There's some 0:26:15.760 --> 0:26:16.399 pan worship. 0:26:16.400 --> 0:26:19.320 In there nothing to do with virtual. Reality Now brett 0:26:19.400 --> 0:26:22.760 leonard's first directorial credit was nineteen Eighty Nine's The. Dead 0:26:22.760 --> 0:26:26.479 pit this is a supernatural horror film with like the Features. 0:26:26.520 --> 0:26:30.200 The undead i've never, seen IT but i am super 0:26:30.200 --> 0:26:35.080 familiar WITH its vhs box arc because and you probably 0:26:35.160 --> 0:26:37.119 are as well if you were of a, certain age 0:26:37.560 --> 0:26:40.760 because this WAS a vhs rental store box that had 0:26:40.880 --> 0:26:43.840 light up eyes powered by a little battery. Pack inside 0:26:43.960 --> 0:26:46.199 it might have made. SOUND too i don't remember if it, 0:26:46.240 --> 0:26:49.640 made sound but they definitely. Light up and, This one i'm, 0:26:49.680 --> 0:26:52.200 to understand is very much a collector's ITEM among. 0:26:52.320 --> 0:26:56.399 Vhs enthusiasts rob this we may have even mentioned this 0:26:56.480 --> 0:26:58.760 idea on the, show BEFORE but i have thought that 0:26:58.840 --> 0:27:02.200 at some point we should do a series of weird 0:27:02.240 --> 0:27:05.359 house cinema episodes just focusing on films that had, gimmick 0:27:05.440 --> 0:27:09.280 packaging stuff that had light up components or anything on 0:27:09.320 --> 0:27:12.080 the box that's different than normal to get people to 0:27:12.119 --> 0:27:12.840 pick it up, and say? 0:27:12.840 --> 0:27:18.119 What's, THIS yeah vhs shell shaped like a coffin something. Like, 0:27:18.160 --> 0:27:22.680 That yeah i'm definitely here. For. It okay So lawnmower 0:27:22.720 --> 0:27:25.199 man was his follow Up To. Dead pit and the, 0:27:25.240 --> 0:27:27.159 thing is we can all laugh about what did and 0:27:27.240 --> 0:27:30.800 didn't work About, lawnmower man but it made a lot, 0:27:30.840 --> 0:27:35.439 of money especially given its. Small budget it connected WITH 0:27:35.520 --> 0:27:39.520 a vr, curious audience and along with this film paved 0:27:39.520 --> 0:27:42.760 the way for pretty MUCH every vr film to follow 0:27:42.880 --> 0:27:43.800 up to And Including. 0:27:43.800 --> 0:27:47.680 The matrix, that's, Right folks Without, lawnmower Man. No matrix 0:27:47.760 --> 0:27:49.360 probably probably. 0:27:49.240 --> 0:27:52.080 There Was An indie wire headline from earlier this year 0:27:52.240 --> 0:27:55.960 an Article By jim hemphill that Covers The vinegar syndrome 0:27:56.000 --> 0:27:59.440 re release of, the picture and its Title is virtuosity 0:27:59.480 --> 0:28:03.840 walks the matrix. Could run so this seems to be 0:28:05.160 --> 0:28:08.320 the opinion of, various folks and it's discussed a bit 0:28:08.359 --> 0:28:11.679 in some of the extras On the VIRTUOSITY disc i. 0:28:11.760 --> 0:28:16.040 Buy It so leonard did not come back for The lawnmower, 0:28:16.080 --> 0:28:20.720 man sequel which is also, pretty Bonkers but hollywood did, 0:28:20.720 --> 0:28:23.640 say yes more of. This please so nineteen ninety five 0:28:23.640 --> 0:28:26.680 saw the release of the psychic serial Killer, film hideaway 0:28:26.720 --> 0:28:30.440 based On The dean kotz novel And Starring, jeff goldbloom And. Then, 0:28:30.880 --> 0:28:35.199 virtuosity so like we, Said earlier Virtuosity paramount, pictures production, 0:28:35.480 --> 0:28:39.400 bigger budget ultimately did not have quite the cultural or 0:28:39.400 --> 0:28:43.400 commercial impact that everyone was, banking on but it received 0:28:43.560 --> 0:28:46.920 a fair amount of reevaluation in, recent years especially With 0:28:46.960 --> 0:28:50.240 That vinegar syndrome blu. Ray release as we'll discuss, the 0:28:50.240 --> 0:28:53.720 film sci fi commentary hits home in various ways given 0:28:53.800 --> 0:28:57.200 where we, are, now, politically socially and above, all technologically, 0:28:58.640 --> 0:29:02.280 and yeah case could be made that this helped pave 0:29:02.320 --> 0:29:04.520 the road for things Like, the matrix and then once the, 0:29:04.560 --> 0:29:08.720 matrix explodes like how many folks are running around with, 0:29:08.800 --> 0:29:12.880 machine guns sunglasses and some sort of like black latex 0:29:12.920 --> 0:29:15.160 garb shooting in slow motion and going in and out. 0:29:15.200 --> 0:29:18.560 Of cyberspace though it's funny because the black latex look 0:29:18.640 --> 0:29:21.720 you only see from secondary characters in. THIS film i 0:29:22.200 --> 0:29:27.479 can't emphasize enough the weird fashion Sensibility Of russell crowe in. 0:29:27.480 --> 0:29:32.280 This movie he wears like brightly colored, big suits, like, 0:29:32.480 --> 0:29:36.720 loose baggy double breasted suits of either, the green satin or. 0:29:36.800 --> 0:29:41.240 Purple, variety, yes well he. Likes attention he wants an attention. 0:29:41.360 --> 0:29:48.240 Grabbing outfit in, the extras particularly Interview, with leonard he points, out, 0:29:48.240 --> 0:29:50.560 That Ye russell crowe is essentially, an influencer like, He 0:29:50.640 --> 0:29:53.720 is he's going after that. Influencer space he wants eyes 0:29:53.800 --> 0:29:57.120 on what he, is doing like that is his, Prime 0:29:57.200 --> 0:30:00.200 drive like not merely to do, awful things but to 0:30:00.240 --> 0:30:03.320 be seen doing awful things and get those hits and 0:30:03.320 --> 0:30:03.600 get those. 0:30:03.600 --> 0:30:06.080 Subscribers up oh, My god i've got too many deep 0:30:06.120 --> 0:30:09.040 thoughts comments about this later on in, The outline, but, yes, 0:30:09.280 --> 0:30:12.840 yes yes that's what's going on here before that thing, 0:30:12.880 --> 0:30:14.240 even existed, All. 0:30:14.200 --> 0:30:18.440 Right so virtuosity hits. Post virtuosity leonard Directed an, imax 0:30:18.480 --> 0:30:21.080 Film T rex back To. THE cretaceous i might have 0:30:21.160 --> 0:30:23.080 seen this one at. This point there have been So 0:30:23.160 --> 0:30:26.600 many imax AND three d, dinosaur films especially as, a 0:30:26.640 --> 0:30:28.920 Parent that i've SEEN that i don't know where one 0:30:29.120 --> 0:30:31.720 ends and the other. ONE begins i always. Enjoy them 0:30:31.920 --> 0:30:34.280 this one is apparently actually a huge hit For an. 0:30:34.320 --> 0:30:35.080 Imax film at. 0:30:35.120 --> 0:30:37.520 The TIME when i was, A teenager i worked selling 0:30:37.520 --> 0:30:40.680 tickets to, tourist attractions and one of THE places i 0:30:40.680 --> 0:30:44.239 worked Was an. IMAX theater i don't recall if they 0:30:44.280 --> 0:30:47.080 ever had, this ONE but i remember a general awareness. 0:30:47.120 --> 0:30:49.120 Of it, all right there's a chance. 0:30:49.160 --> 0:30:49.200 It. 0:30:49.280 --> 0:30:54.280 Happened now, Later on Leonard directed he directed a pair 0:30:54.320 --> 0:30:57.760 of two thousand and five films that seemed. Very skippable 0:30:57.800 --> 0:31:00.560 One Is. Man thing this was An early marvel entertainment 0:31:00.600 --> 0:31:03.920 film that missed the mark for. Various reasons i've, read 0:31:03.960 --> 0:31:05.240 that like it was one of those cases where the 0:31:05.240 --> 0:31:08.520 production was just too far Away and marvel wasn't able 0:31:08.560 --> 0:31:11.440 to like really have their hands in it as much as. 0:31:11.440 --> 0:31:14.360 They wanted and then he also did a Movie, called 0:31:14.400 --> 0:31:16.880 feed which seems like one of the many bad taste 0:31:16.880 --> 0:31:19.120 horror films to spring up in the wake of ninety five. 0:31:19.120 --> 0:31:23.160 To seven it also looks. Very skippable then he directed 0:31:23.160 --> 0:31:25.760 two thousand And Seven's Highlander. The source this was the 0:31:25.800 --> 0:31:29.360 final trickle of cinematic juice thus far squeezed from the 0:31:29.440 --> 0:31:29.840 husk Of the. 0:31:29.920 --> 0:31:33.800 HIGHLANDER franchise i, Assume No, Christoph, limbert no he's. 0:31:33.840 --> 0:31:36.360 In it oh. He, is yeah this is. You kidding 0:31:36.560 --> 0:31:38.680 this is the period of films where they had they 0:31:38.760 --> 0:31:42.120 had combined the movies AND the tv show and like 0:31:42.200 --> 0:31:45.280 they were literally just throwing everything in and just squeezing 0:31:45.320 --> 0:31:48.720 as much as they could out. Of it and maybe 0:31:48.760 --> 0:31:51.480 they'll relaunch it here in the next year, or two 0:31:51.480 --> 0:31:54.320 and we'll have so much more juice. To squeeze but 0:31:54.680 --> 0:31:58.040 this was like the. Last trickle, but hey somebody had 0:31:58.040 --> 0:32:01.680 to direct, these movies might as Well Than. Leonard, okay now, 0:32:01.720 --> 0:32:05.320 more recently he directed the twenty twenty One drama triumph 0:32:05.360 --> 0:32:07.320 and seems to be returning to his roots with an 0:32:07.360 --> 0:32:11.760 upcoming Project Called, dark star not not Related To John Carpenter's, 0:32:11.840 --> 0:32:15.200 dark star in which quote a Trio Of Astral warriors 0:32:15.240 --> 0:32:18.440 Battle And. Ai threat it's in pre production as of, 0:32:18.480 --> 0:32:21.680 this Recording so. I'm interested it would be interesting to 0:32:21.720 --> 0:32:25.000 see what the Director Of lon Moriman in virtuosity would 0:32:25.040 --> 0:32:27.400 have for us in like twenty twenty five of twenty. 0:32:27.440 --> 0:32:31.360 TWENTY six i am. Mighty. Curious, yeah now his music 0:32:31.440 --> 0:32:35.680 video Filmography Includes Peter Gabriel's Kissed that frog from. Ninety 0:32:35.720 --> 0:32:39.640 three this was off of a terrific ALBUM that i 0:32:39.840 --> 0:32:43.040 totally wore out in. The nineties the video is notable 0:32:43.040 --> 0:32:45.600 for its USE of cgi IN a. Cgi frog it 0:32:45.640 --> 0:32:49.600 was actually the FIRST all cgi. Music video apparently. 0:32:49.480 --> 0:32:53.760 The cgi frog has really really. Red lips it's like. 0:32:53.880 --> 0:32:55.480 Lipstick lips this. 0:32:56.120 --> 0:32:59.720 Was obviously a pioneering, music video which is to say 0:32:59.800 --> 0:33:03.120 it it doesn't look that great by, today's standard not 0:33:03.160 --> 0:33:06.160 like a lot Of Other peter gabriel Videos, like sledgehammer, 0:33:06.240 --> 0:33:08.320 you know which has all this great stop motion and 0:33:08.480 --> 0:33:09.800 you know totally stands the test of. 0:33:09.840 --> 0:33:12.960 Time Now But peter gabriel has a presence on the 0:33:13.000 --> 0:33:16.000 soundtrack of this movie. As Well Guess i'm your, Party man. 0:33:16.160 --> 0:33:19.320 That's right a track co Written By. Tory. Amos, wow 0:33:20.800 --> 0:33:22.760 YEAH so i look forward to talking about the music 0:33:22.920 --> 0:33:25.360 as we. Proceed, here, okay okay don't want to get ahead. 0:33:25.360 --> 0:33:27.600 Of you but to Finish, with leonard it is notable 0:33:27.680 --> 0:33:31.240 that he's not just a nineteen nineties POPULARIZER of vr 0:33:31.360 --> 0:33:34.160 sci fi. And tear he also co founded two different 0:33:34.160 --> 0:33:36.840 companies involved in the USE, of vr or is the 0:33:36.920 --> 0:33:42.160 term he prefers as virtual experiences for. Therapeutic purposes So There's, Virtual. 0:33:42.160 --> 0:33:43.560 Psychedelics Inc AND. 0:33:43.760 --> 0:33:47.720 Ubiquity, vx okay no Offense To brett leonard at all, 0:33:47.800 --> 0:33:50.080 about this but it is kind of an odd choice 0:33:50.120 --> 0:33:54.240 to like the stories you have created and sent into 0:33:54.280 --> 0:33:58.120 the WORLD, about vr all about murder and ABOUT LIKE vr, 0:33:59.000 --> 0:34:03.840 vr psycho, you know taking control and unleashing havoc on, 0:34:03.880 --> 0:34:06.760 the world but then also like literally being involved in 0:34:06.800 --> 0:34:10.520 ACTUALLY using vr for allegedly. Good purposes i'm not trying 0:34:10.520 --> 0:34:11.560 to impune what. 0:34:11.600 --> 0:34:13.600 He's, doing, no, NO no i mean he based on 0:34:13.640 --> 0:34:15.880 the INTERVIEW that i watched on, that disk he does 0:34:15.920 --> 0:34:17.879 seem to recognize the irony, of this and, he's okay 0:34:17.880 --> 0:34:21.080 frames it is sort Of like i'm giving back having 0:34:21.400 --> 0:34:25.880 having first helped to create these visions. Of, paranoia yeah so, 0:34:26.320 --> 0:34:29.480 fair enough, all right moving on to, the screenplay it 0:34:29.560 --> 0:34:33.160 Is By, eric, burnt screenwriter perhaps best known for his 0:34:33.239 --> 0:34:35.160 work on, this film but his first credit to his 0:34:35.200 --> 0:34:38.919 screamplay was nineteen Ninety four Surviving, the game Directed BY. Ernest. 0:34:39.040 --> 0:34:42.560 R dickerson this we've talked about this before because we've 0:34:42.600 --> 0:34:45.160 Talked ABOUT Ernest ar. Dickerson before but this is The 0:34:45.200 --> 0:34:48.439 most dangerous game but with, iced tea Hunted By, Rugger Howard, 0:34:48.520 --> 0:34:51.080 gary Busey F marie Abraham AND. John. C. 0:34:51.200 --> 0:34:55.560 McGinley Yeah was dickerson the director Of the tales From 0:34:55.560 --> 0:34:56.160 the Crypt Movie. 0:34:56.200 --> 0:34:59.160 Demon knight, He, was yes we talked about before on. 0:34:59.200 --> 0:35:02.040 The show he also wrote the screenplay for Two Thousands 0:35:02.120 --> 0:35:04.720 Romeo must die and has a story credit on Two thousands. 0:35:04.800 --> 0:35:09.640 Highlander endgame, All right highlander connections from. Different, directions yeah 0:35:09.680 --> 0:35:12.160 there was a lot Of work, highlander world, you know 0:35:12.239 --> 0:35:14.480 so you got paid where you could. 0:35:14.480 --> 0:35:15.880 Get, PAID okay i. 0:35:15.880 --> 0:35:19.240 Think it's time to talk about our implausible a list, Actors. 0:35:18.840 --> 0:35:23.319 Here Yes Playing Lieutenant. Parker barnes you know his Name 0:35:23.360 --> 0:35:26.480 is parker because it's set a bazillion times in. This, Picture, 0:35:26.760 --> 0:35:30.560 hey porker this one's. For, you yeah this is Of 0:35:30.600 --> 0:35:34.719 Course denzel washington born nineteen. Fifty four this is one 0:35:34.760 --> 0:35:36.759 of those moments where, IT'S like i don't have to 0:35:36.760 --> 0:35:39.440 tell anyone out There Who denzel, washington IS but i, 0:35:39.480 --> 0:35:43.080 will say it's so easy to take a talent like him, 0:35:43.120 --> 0:35:46.600 for granted because for people around, my age it feels 0:35:46.640 --> 0:35:48.560 like he's always. Been there, you know he's always been 0:35:48.560 --> 0:35:50.359 there at the top of. His game he's always. Been 0:35:50.440 --> 0:35:53.000 established he's stuck near the top Of the hollywood pantheon 0:35:53.440 --> 0:35:56.680 for decades and just continues to bust, out powerful often 0:35:56.719 --> 0:36:00.960 award winning performances, in big big. Budget films, all told 0:36:01.120 --> 0:36:04.319 he's currently a Nine Time academy award nominee and two. 0:36:04.320 --> 0:36:07.360 Time winner at this point in, his career as we already, 0:36:07.360 --> 0:36:11.239 pointed out he'd been nominated three times and. Won once so, 0:36:11.719 --> 0:36:13.879 you KNOW dare I say he's coming into this, one 0:36:13.920 --> 0:36:17.720 hot having been nominated for nineteen Eighty Eight's, cry freedom 0:36:17.760 --> 0:36:21.120 in nineteen Ninety THREE'S, malcolm x and having won again 0:36:21.200 --> 0:36:25.239 for Nineteen. Nineties glory subsequent nominations would include two Thousands Of, 0:36:25.239 --> 0:36:30.239 the hurricane Twenty thirteen's flight, Twenty seventeens fences Twenty Eighteen's, 0:36:30.400 --> 0:36:34.760 Roman Jay israel esquire and twenty Twenty Two's the Tragedy. 0:36:34.840 --> 0:36:38.040 Of macbeth his to date only Other oscar Win Was 0:36:38.280 --> 0:36:41.480 best actor for his excellent performance as the Dirty Cap 0:36:41.480 --> 0:36:45.239 alonzo harris in two thousand And One's. TRAINING day i 0:36:45.360 --> 0:36:47.520 keep getting a wild hair to rewatch, that one because 0:36:47.520 --> 0:36:49.239 that's that's a film that when it CAME out i 0:36:49.320 --> 0:36:52.200 was really. Captivated by it was just like, really intense 0:36:52.680 --> 0:36:55.759 had some excellent twists and in just a phenomenal sense 0:36:55.800 --> 0:36:59.120 of danger as well as of course at a terrific of, 0:37:00.600 --> 0:37:03.440 i'll say, villain performance but it's a little more complicated, 0:37:03.480 --> 0:37:05.880 than that, you know it's almost Like a shakespearean, villain 0:37:05.920 --> 0:37:08.800 performance which of course brings us To the Tragedy. Of, 0:37:08.880 --> 0:37:13.239 macbeth that of Course Is joel cohen's adaptation Of the 0:37:13.239 --> 0:37:16.960 scottish play that also Co stars, francis McDormand and it 0:37:17.080 --> 0:37:19.760 is also awesome and of course features an amazing supporting 0:37:19.760 --> 0:37:23.000 cast that features A Few cohen brothers regulars as Well As. 0:37:23.040 --> 0:37:26.320 Brian thompson you Might Remember brian thompson from such films 0:37:26.320 --> 0:37:28.760 as The Second Moral, kombat movie in which You Played 0:37:28.760 --> 0:37:33.239 shao khan and loads of like action. B movies, you 0:37:33.239 --> 0:37:35.680 know he was often an, action star but he shows 0:37:35.719 --> 0:37:37.719 up in this as one of the murderers and. 0:37:37.920 --> 0:37:41.560 Is, terrific oh in the Tragedy. Of macbeth Not, In, 0:37:41.640 --> 0:37:44.520 virtuosity no not. IN virtually i would be ASHAMED if 0:37:44.520 --> 0:37:45.360 i had missed Him in. 0:37:45.440 --> 0:37:48.200 Virtuosity, Somewhere Yeah brian thompson was also one of the 0:37:48.480 --> 0:37:51.440 punks that gets beat up and or killed by. The 0:37:51.520 --> 0:37:52.680 terminator yeah that. 0:37:52.719 --> 0:37:56.200 Sounds, Right, yeah WELL as i, Said Earlier denzel washington 0:37:56.360 --> 0:38:00.120 is so much better than this movie. Calls For he 0:38:00.120 --> 0:38:04.600 he's giving the more subdued and humanistic performance And Allowing 0:38:04.680 --> 0:38:08.319 russell crowe the space to just. Be wacky but it's 0:38:08.360 --> 0:38:12.080 both funny and genuinely like a pleasure to see him in. This. 0:38:12.239 --> 0:38:17.160 Role, yeah leonard in the Interview On The blu ray 0:38:17.640 --> 0:38:19.640 Commented that denzel was pretty much at the top of his, 0:38:19.680 --> 0:38:22.200 game here, you know requiring only mild suggestions here, and 0:38:22.239 --> 0:38:24.399 there and otherwise you just like you just let him run, 0:38:24.400 --> 0:38:26.120 with it and he nails it right out of, the 0:38:26.160 --> 0:38:29.200 gate possessing what he described as an almost like superhuman 0:38:29.239 --> 0:38:31.360 ability to know exactly where his face is in a 0:38:31.400 --> 0:38:34.520 given shot and just maximize, his expression. 0:38:34.360 --> 0:38:39.080 Which is interesting because that's a very film. Specific TALENT 0:38:39.640 --> 0:38:42.879 and I know i've Read That denzel washington very much 0:38:42.960 --> 0:38:45.880 thinks of himself as like a stage. PERFORMER first, i, 0:38:45.880 --> 0:38:48.120 mean obviously, you know more people know him from, his 0:38:48.239 --> 0:38:51.240 movies but he, you know he's a very like stage 0:38:51.239 --> 0:38:52.879 and theater focused actor in. A. 0:38:52.840 --> 0:38:55.960 Way, yeah, yeah yeah he's back on the stage currently 0:38:56.000 --> 0:38:59.600 as we're recording this. As well but as far as 0:38:59.680 --> 0:39:02.400 sci fi movies. It goes it's. Actually interesting this is 0:39:02.400 --> 0:39:05.040 only one of three sci fi Movies that denzel has ever, 0:39:05.080 --> 0:39:07.520 APPEARED in, i believe alongside two thousand and Six Is 0:39:07.680 --> 0:39:11.279 deja vus and Twenty Ten's the Book. Of eli and 0:39:11.320 --> 0:39:13.239 of course he's still going. Strong today just came off 0:39:13.280 --> 0:39:16.279 of a key Role In Ridley scott's, gladiator two which 0:39:16.320 --> 0:39:19.120 is fitting given who our next. Star is that's. 0:39:19.120 --> 0:39:21.080 All right RACHEL and i were just talking about this 0:39:21.200 --> 0:39:24.479 that it's got Two different gladiator actors at the, top 0:39:24.520 --> 0:39:26.880 here and, of, course yeah of course that brings Us 0:39:26.880 --> 0:39:28.919 To russell CROWE as sid six. 0:39:28.960 --> 0:39:31.680 Point seven. That's right do you think. 0:39:31.520 --> 0:39:34.800 It would have been different actors in the role OF previous, 0:39:34.920 --> 0:39:39.560 sid releases LIKE was sid three Point Nine michael dudikov 0:39:39.840 --> 0:39:41.839 and then by the time you get to six point 0:39:41.880 --> 0:39:42.480 Seven That's. 0:39:42.560 --> 0:39:46.600 Russell crowe that that would be interesting that if they 0:39:46.600 --> 0:39:49.000 Do A virtuosity, tv series, you know they could do, 0:39:49.080 --> 0:39:51.080 different sids. Different actors it could BE a sid of the. 0:39:51.080 --> 0:39:55.880 Weak Situation So russell crowe born nineteen, Sixty Four new 0:39:55.960 --> 0:39:59.920 zealand born Actor of Welsh and maouri Ancestry As. WE 0:40:00.080 --> 0:40:02.280 denzel i really don't need to tell. You Who russell. 0:40:02.320 --> 0:40:05.279 Crowe is very, famous actor but with A decidedly i 0:40:05.280 --> 0:40:08.239 would say wilder reputation in. A filmography to fit, That 0:40:08.320 --> 0:40:12.920 reputation crow starred started off in music, and Theater including 0:40:12.960 --> 0:40:16.680 i'm delighted to Say playing eddie In A new zealand 0:40:16.680 --> 0:40:18.000 Production Of The Rocky Horror. 0:40:18.040 --> 0:40:20.520 Picture show oh that's surprising. 0:40:20.680 --> 0:40:23.440 But also kind. Of perfect, YOU know i think he 0:40:23.520 --> 0:40:25.640 was in he was like in a band at, one point, 0:40:25.760 --> 0:40:28.080 very early, you know before he really got. Into ACTING 0:40:28.239 --> 0:40:33.759 so i can Definitely See russell Crowe. As eddie he Has, meat, 0:40:34.680 --> 0:40:37.200 Yeah yeah eddie was played By meat loaf in the 0:40:37.840 --> 0:40:40.399 In The Rocky Art. Picture show for anyone who's trying 0:40:40.400 --> 0:40:44.800 to remember. The, Casting now crow Broke into australian cinema. 0:40:44.840 --> 0:40:47.759 AFTER this a couple of big hits here were ninety 0:40:47.840 --> 0:40:52.080 Ninety one's proof and nineteen Ninety Two's romper stomper rather 0:40:52.120 --> 0:40:55.200 famous role in which he Plays a, melbourne skinhead and 0:40:55.320 --> 0:40:58.719 these films helped to springboard Him into american pictures and 0:40:58.760 --> 0:41:01.520 that's really where. Virtuosity comes in the, same year he 0:41:01.520 --> 0:41:04.160 also appeared In The sam Raimy Western the quick And. 0:41:04.239 --> 0:41:07.360 The dead never seen? That one is that one that 0:41:07.440 --> 0:41:10.319 Also Has? Sharon, STONE yeah i believe she's the lead. 0:41:10.360 --> 0:41:15.000 In, it yeah. So yeah leonard also talked about about 0:41:15.120 --> 0:41:17.239 Working With russell crowe And Said russell crowe is also 0:41:17.280 --> 0:41:20.080 a situation of where you turn him loose and you 0:41:20.200 --> 0:41:22.319 just follow him, and maybe, you know give him a 0:41:22.320 --> 0:41:27.040 few few directions here. And there but He described crowe 0:41:27.040 --> 0:41:30.000 as being kind of like a bundle of improvisational energy 0:41:30.360 --> 0:41:32.480 and so a lot of his lines here that we 0:41:32.520 --> 0:41:35.719 get some of the, great ones our improvisations that he 0:41:35.840 --> 0:41:37.920 brought to, the script that he brought to. 0:41:37.960 --> 0:41:41.040 THE scenes i think you can detect that without even. 0:41:41.160 --> 0:41:43.399 Knowing it it just comes through in. The movie there's 0:41:43.920 --> 0:41:46.640 this might sound like a wild comparison but there is 0:41:46.760 --> 0:41:50.720 Almost A jim carrey quality to him In, this. 0:41:51.280 --> 0:41:55.640 Yes, yes, absolutely yeah that kind Of, Like, Batman joker 0:41:55.719 --> 0:41:58.360 riddler kind of energy where it's just, you know laughing. 0:41:58.400 --> 0:42:02.920 And goofy our man here is doing backflips INTO the 0:42:03.040 --> 0:42:07.880 ufc octagon and landing on his head seemingly. ON purpose, 0:42:07.960 --> 0:42:12.240 i mean he's. Completely. Unhinged Yeah So russell crowe followed 0:42:12.600 --> 0:42:16.480 all this with well received performances in such Hits As 0:42:16.600 --> 0:42:20.279 la confidential in, Ninety Seven the insider in. Ninety nine 0:42:20.320 --> 0:42:23.080 he Got an oscar nomination for, that one before his 0:42:23.200 --> 0:42:26.480 award winning star Performance In Ridley scott's gladiator in two thousand. 0:42:26.520 --> 0:42:28.920 And one he was nominated the following YEAR For A. 0:42:28.920 --> 0:42:32.319 Beautiful mind subsequent films of note include the likes of 0:42:32.360 --> 0:42:34.800 two thousand, And Threes, Mastering Commander The far side Of, 0:42:34.840 --> 0:42:38.680 the world two thousand And One's american Gangster With, denzel 0:42:38.800 --> 0:42:42.360 Washington And Ridley Scott's robin hood in. Twenty, ten now around, 0:42:42.360 --> 0:42:44.200 Twenty ten i'd say the credits start getting a, little 0:42:44.200 --> 0:42:46.160 weirder and it feels like he gets he's getting to 0:42:46.200 --> 0:42:49.239 flex his muscles and supporting roles half, the time and 0:42:49.320 --> 0:42:52.160 even some villain, work again appearing in the likes of 0:42:52.320 --> 0:42:56.040 Twenty Twelve's the man With The, iron fists Twenty thirteen's Man, 0:42:56.040 --> 0:43:00.719 of steel Twenty, fourteen's noah Twenty Seventeen's, the mummy twenty 0:43:00.800 --> 0:43:03.960 Twenty two's Love, and thunder, which again this is where 0:43:03.960 --> 0:43:06.719 He plays zeus and he gets to just be over 0:43:06.760 --> 0:43:10.640 the top, and comedic but also has at least one 0:43:10.760 --> 0:43:15.160 key scene that he's just oozing with. Villainous energy so 0:43:15.200 --> 0:43:18.359 it's very fun. To watch a lot of people did 0:43:18.360 --> 0:43:20.640 Not like Love and thunder all. THAT much i didn't 0:43:20.680 --> 0:43:22.239 like it as much the FIRST time i, watched IT 0:43:22.280 --> 0:43:24.680 but i really came around to it the. Second time if, 0:43:24.719 --> 0:43:29.120 nothing else it's a wacky film with some incredibly talented actors. 0:43:29.120 --> 0:43:31.759 In it you Could See christian bale play a mad god, 0:43:31.840 --> 0:43:35.800 killing alien so you know it's worth. The, Ticket okay 0:43:36.640 --> 0:43:39.359 but then He's lately crow has been playing a lot. 0:43:39.400 --> 0:43:43.480 Of exorcists twenty twenty Three Is The pope's exorcist and 0:43:43.520 --> 0:43:47.200 twenty Twenty Fours. The exorcist these are apparently not related to. 0:43:47.239 --> 0:43:50.240 EACH other i haven't, seen THEM so i can't, fully 0:43:50.239 --> 0:43:53.080 COMMENT but i. Don't know he's just saying yes to. 0:43:53.120 --> 0:43:56.399 EXORCIST pictures i Haven't Seen The. Pope's exorcist, IN fact 0:43:56.480 --> 0:43:58.719 i don't know what it's about other than what one 0:43:58.800 --> 0:44:01.480 might surmise from. The title but it pops up on, 0:44:01.560 --> 0:44:04.160 streaming services and so in our house we keep Making 0:44:04.160 --> 0:44:04.640 The pope's. 0:44:04.640 --> 0:44:08.920 Exorcist jokes is he an exorcist working For? The pope 0:44:09.040 --> 0:44:11.399 or is he Exercising? The pope many. 0:44:11.440 --> 0:44:14.000 Good questions Is the pope possessed by a devil and 0:44:14.160 --> 0:44:16.840 he has to? Exercise it or do people get possessed 0:44:16.920 --> 0:44:18.680 by the spirit Of the pope and he has to 0:44:18.719 --> 0:44:19.800 go Exercise the pope? 0:44:19.800 --> 0:44:20.640 FROM people. 0:44:22.160 --> 0:44:22.239 I. 0:44:22.239 --> 0:44:25.880 Don't know we're going to have to await listeners to 0:44:26.440 --> 0:44:27.279 tell us how this all. 0:44:27.280 --> 0:44:30.440 Plays OUT can i read a quote From The Janet 0:44:30.480 --> 0:44:33.919 Maslin New york times Review of virtuosity when it. Came 0:44:33.960 --> 0:44:38.160 out oh don't fully agree With everything maslin, says here 0:44:38.160 --> 0:44:40.480 but just for how it was received at, The time, 0:44:41.360 --> 0:44:45.000 She Writes mister washington is usually an actor audiences will 0:44:45.000 --> 0:44:48.120 follow into, any dimension but here his role, is, limited, 0:44:48.120 --> 0:44:50.719 too often leaving him to play second fiddle to the 0:44:50.719 --> 0:44:55.839 film's weirdly hypnotic. Special Effects mister crowe as a psychotic, 0:44:55.960 --> 0:44:59.440 yuppie type bearing a disconcerting resemblance to The Writer. Brett 0:44:59.440 --> 0:45:04.520 easton l does a memorable job making himself frightening until 0:45:04.560 --> 0:45:07.279 the film becomes numbingly frantic in the manner of many. 0:45:07.360 --> 0:45:11.040 Video games while it excoriates the vicious sid as the 0:45:11.080 --> 0:45:14.440 techno spawn of Monsters Like adolf Hitler And John, Wayne 0:45:14.440 --> 0:45:19.239 gacy virtuosity also revels in his exploits with more enthusiasm 0:45:19.560 --> 0:45:23.400 than is. Really necessary, You know i'm gonna agree with 0:45:23.520 --> 0:45:25.800 the later part. Of that one of the downsides of 0:45:25.840 --> 0:45:29.040 the film, is like it's like, mostly silly but then 0:45:29.120 --> 0:45:31.960 sometimes the violent scenes just get a little. Too real, 0:45:32.080 --> 0:45:34.240 it's like, oh man that went harder than it. Needed 0:45:34.239 --> 0:45:37.680 to but the other, THING is i like the Characterization 0:45:37.960 --> 0:45:41.760 Of russell crow here is as a psychotic yuppie type 0:45:42.200 --> 0:45:45.000 because that captures something about the ROLE that i didn't 0:45:45.040 --> 0:45:47.640 quite put TOGETHER when i was just reacting to. It myself, 0:45:47.640 --> 0:45:50.399 but yeah there is a kind of urbanity, to him 0:45:50.840 --> 0:45:52.560 do you KNOW what? I mean like he's kind of 0:45:53.360 --> 0:45:56.800 he's kind of suave and sophisticated at the same time 0:45:56.920 --> 0:46:01.080 that he is supposed to be, an uncontrolled manic, psycho 0:46:01.200 --> 0:46:04.960 killer and that is clearly it's part of what the 0:46:05.000 --> 0:46:08.600 appeal of the. Character is but it, ALSO feels i, 0:46:08.640 --> 0:46:12.960 don't know it's like a very. Unfocused characterization this character 0:46:13.120 --> 0:46:15.280 is just a lot of things thrown at, the wall 0:46:15.520 --> 0:46:16.320 you KNOW what. I, mean. 0:46:16.360 --> 0:46:18.600 Yeah but of course that also is exactly what. 0:46:18.640 --> 0:46:18.719 He. 0:46:18.880 --> 0:46:22.319 Is, like yeah there's like a multiple personality situation. Going on, 0:46:22.360 --> 0:46:24.640 but yeah then also as it's, you know it's brought 0:46:24.680 --> 0:46:27.000 to life on, the screen you can see so many different, 0:46:27.040 --> 0:46:37.840 influences there, all right getting into the rest of, the 0:46:37.880 --> 0:46:39.799 CAST and i should say the rest of the cast 0:46:39.880 --> 0:46:42.120 is very much the rest of the. Cast, here yeah, 0:46:42.280 --> 0:46:46.120 you know they're all supporting what are our two stars. 0:46:46.120 --> 0:46:49.040 Are doing but We Have kelly lynch playing. The Character 0:46:49.080 --> 0:46:52.080 madison carter born nineteen Fifty nine, american actress best known 0:46:52.080 --> 0:46:55.279 for performances in nineteen Eighty Nine's, drugstore cowboy as Well 0:46:55.320 --> 0:46:58.080 as roadhouse from the. Same year she's continued to work 0:46:58.080 --> 0:47:00.440 steadily in FILM, and tv Appearing In Such is The, 0:47:00.560 --> 0:47:04.640 L Word, Magic City, mister Mercedes And physical you. 0:47:04.600 --> 0:47:07.160 Know how whenever a copy gets thrown off the force 0:47:07.320 --> 0:47:10.200 is brought back for one. Last job he always has 0:47:10.239 --> 0:47:11.960 to get a. New partner here's your new. 0:47:12.000 --> 0:47:15.800 Partner exactly and so it is very much a supporting 0:47:15.920 --> 0:47:18.200 role in the most limited sense of. The word like 0:47:18.440 --> 0:47:21.799 everything she's doing is here to support the Characterization Of 0:47:21.840 --> 0:47:23.920 denzel washington's character and have her. 0:47:24.000 --> 0:47:27.759 Kid kidnapped this we'll. Discuss it she does get to 0:47:27.760 --> 0:47:29.040 shoot the human bad guy at. 0:47:29.040 --> 0:47:32.439 The end. That's true. That's. True oh in speaking of human, bad, 0:47:32.480 --> 0:47:36.160 guy yep It Is lynden meyer Played By steven spinella 0:47:36.560 --> 0:47:40.120 for nineteen. Fifty six this was only his third. Film appearance, 0:47:40.160 --> 0:47:44.680 but man this guy has tremendous weird energy because he's 0:47:44.800 --> 0:47:49.160 the Creator of sid six. Point seven but also it's 0:47:49.560 --> 0:47:53.480 clear that he's now completely enraptured by his creation and 0:47:53.600 --> 0:47:57.480 is worshiping his creation and wants to do anything. He 0:47:57.520 --> 0:48:00.839 can he has a true love for this awful thing that. 0:48:00.880 --> 0:48:05.040 He's made. He's continued spinell has continued to milk his 0:48:05.120 --> 0:48:07.400 weird energy and some other great weird productions over. The 0:48:07.480 --> 0:48:10.480 years nineteen Ninety, nine's ravenous another FILM that i think 0:48:10.520 --> 0:48:14.920 would be interesting to revisit in twenty, twenty five Twenty 0:48:14.960 --> 0:48:18.000 ten's rubber and that's that's one that's been recommended to, 0:48:18.080 --> 0:48:21.640 us before and Then Also Steven Soderberg's, the NICK which 0:48:22.239 --> 0:48:24.759 i am struggling to remember who. He played there were 0:48:24.760 --> 0:48:26.160 a lot of actors coming in and out of that 0:48:26.800 --> 0:48:29.600 shows what two. Season Run but i'm a big Fan Of, 0:48:29.600 --> 0:48:34.280 the nick. All right we Also have william Forsythe playing 0:48:34.680 --> 0:48:39.680 william cochrane is this character is the what he's the, police, 0:48:39.760 --> 0:48:43.200 Chief right, he's like you're the BEST cop i ever. 0:48:43.320 --> 0:48:46.960 Worked with you're the. Absolute best i'm the as well as, 0:48:47.160 --> 0:48:48.360 He's like i'm gonna get you out of prison and 0:48:48.400 --> 0:48:49.560 get you back on, the force that sort. 0:48:49.560 --> 0:48:51.960 Of thing there's only one man who can stop, this 0:48:52.000 --> 0:48:53.719 thread and that's the protagonist of. 0:48:53.760 --> 0:48:56.240 This film. That's RIGHT so i don't know how we've 0:48:56.280 --> 0:48:59.560 avoided Watching A william forthlyfe movie up until now because 0:48:59.760 --> 0:49:02.520 his tons. Of Credits the american character actor who's made 0:49:02.560 --> 0:49:05.400 a career out of playing mostly heavies, and cops exactly 0:49:05.560 --> 0:49:08.440 like his role in. This film but he also played 0:49:08.480 --> 0:49:12.640 the Escape convict evil in nineteen Eighty Seven's. Raising arizona 0:49:14.080 --> 0:49:16.319 that great line, He's, like hi you're young and you got. 0:49:16.360 --> 0:49:17.319 Your health what you want with. 0:49:17.400 --> 0:49:19.720 The job he has the great scene where he holds 0:49:19.800 --> 0:49:23.359 up the general store to steal DIAPERS and i think 0:49:23.400 --> 0:49:25.839 he steals balloons and he says these blow up into, 0:49:25.840 --> 0:49:28.200 funny shapes and the, guy says not unless round. 0:49:28.320 --> 0:49:28.400 Is. 0:49:28.440 --> 0:49:32.640 Funny yeah so he's great, in that and that role 0:49:32.719 --> 0:49:35.479 like definitely stands apart from most of what he's, known 0:49:35.520 --> 0:49:39.040 for because other films of note include he played the 0:49:39.120 --> 0:49:42.920 Mutant Gangster flat top in Nineteen Nineties dick tracy and 0:49:43.320 --> 0:49:45.799 pops up in Three Different rob, zombie projects His two, 0:49:45.840 --> 0:49:49.080 Halloween Movies The, devil's rejects and also the EPISODE Of 0:49:49.120 --> 0:49:50.439 csi Miami That rob. 0:49:50.520 --> 0:49:53.759 Zombie directed it's hard for me to recommend any Of 0:49:53.760 --> 0:49:57.239 Those rob. Zombie Movies devil's rejects is a, little ROUGH 0:49:57.280 --> 0:49:59.560 but I Remember william forsyth being pretty great. In. 0:49:59.600 --> 0:50:02.120 It, Yeah yeah like he gets in there and he does. 0:50:02.160 --> 0:50:06.320 His thing it. Very, dependable oh we Have another oscar. 0:50:06.360 --> 0:50:10.320 Winner here We Have louise fletcher playing The Character. Elizabeth 0:50:10.440 --> 0:50:12.799 DEAN she's i guess what, she's LIKE a ceo or 0:50:12.800 --> 0:50:14.920 something of the company. 0:50:14.520 --> 0:50:17.640 That she's the, police commissioner a. Police, Commissioner, OKAY yeah 0:50:18.080 --> 0:50:21.360 i Feel Like louise fletcher is a. Great actress absolutely 0:50:21.400 --> 0:50:24.120 wasted here is like the character has nothing. To do 0:50:24.280 --> 0:50:26.719 she just stands around being the authority figure in. 0:50:26.800 --> 0:50:30.080 Several. Scenes yep she lived nineteen thirty four through twenty, 0:50:30.120 --> 0:50:32.400 twenty two best known for a role in nineteen Seventy 0:50:32.400 --> 0:50:35.319 Five's One flu Over The, cuckoo's nest for which she 0:50:35.760 --> 0:50:39.160 Won A Best Supporting Actress. Academy award also known for 0:50:39.280 --> 0:50:41.920 nineteen Eighty sevens flowers In the attic and episodes OF 0:50:41.920 --> 0:50:44.960 such tv SHOWS As d space Nine. And Shameless, all 0:50:45.040 --> 0:50:47.719 right we Also Have william Fitchner playing wallace In this 0:50:47.800 --> 0:50:51.319 born nineteen. Fifty Six another william, character actor this one 0:50:51.360 --> 0:50:54.880 best known for playing kind of a mix authority figures 0:50:54.920 --> 0:50:58.520 and also slimy. Suit types his credits include nineteen Ninety, 0:50:58.520 --> 0:51:02.320 eight's armageddon two Thousand Four, words crash and Twenty Fourteen's 0:51:02.360 --> 0:51:05.239 Teenage Mutant, ninja turtles in which he plays a version Of. 0:51:05.360 --> 0:51:06.520 The shredder that's. 0:51:06.640 --> 0:51:13.759 Weird, casting yeah, once again Nothing Against. William fitchner he's 0:51:14.040 --> 0:51:15.920 doing what. He CAN but i don't even know why this. 0:51:16.040 --> 0:51:19.200 Character exists does this character have any distinct role to 0:51:19.239 --> 0:51:19.560 play in? 0:51:19.600 --> 0:51:22.440 The? Story yeah does this character do anything that could 0:51:22.440 --> 0:51:25.279 not have been combined into. Another, CHARACTER yeah i don't, 0:51:25.280 --> 0:51:29.040 think so, oh man but we also have, This Character. 0:51:29.080 --> 0:51:33.560 Clyde riley you mentioned that the developers of, the TECHNOLOGY the, 0:51:33.600 --> 0:51:36.160 vr technology were working out some of. The kinks this 0:51:36.200 --> 0:51:39.640 guy was definitely working out some kinks with. The technology 0:51:40.160 --> 0:51:43.520 played by The EXCELLENT. Kevin j O'Connor born nineteen, sixty 0:51:43.520 --> 0:51:47.080 three great creep, character actor who of course plays a 0:51:47.120 --> 0:51:48.560 creep in. THIS film i. 0:51:48.480 --> 0:51:50.640 Feel like he was on a role in the nineties 0:51:50.640 --> 0:51:54.759 of playing various kinds, of squirming. 0:51:54.840 --> 0:51:59.959 Pathetic, dweeves yes frequently Cast By stephen sommers and Such 0:52:00.120 --> 0:52:03.719 films is nineteen, Ninety Eight, deep rising nineteen ninety Nine Is, 0:52:03.760 --> 0:52:05.600 the mummy and then later on two thousand And Fours. 0:52:05.680 --> 0:52:08.880 Van helsing but he's also worked steadily in a lot 0:52:08.960 --> 0:52:12.040 of high quality, mainstream productions like the Likes Of Paul 0:52:12.080 --> 0:52:14.279 Thomas Anderson's There Will be blood in two thousand, And 0:52:14.320 --> 0:52:18.360 Seven the master in. Twenty twelve you also might recognize 0:52:18.400 --> 0:52:21.680 him from another nineteen ninety, Five Film Clive barker's Lord, 0:52:21.680 --> 0:52:24.360 of illusions in which he plays The Magician. Philip swan 0:52:25.200 --> 0:52:27.479 what was his role In, THE mummy i Haven't Seen 0:52:27.520 --> 0:52:29.960 the mummy in. So, long Oh he's benny In. 0:52:30.040 --> 0:52:32.520 The mummy he's. The guy so This Is the Mummy 0:52:32.520 --> 0:52:37.160 With brendan Fraser And, rachel weiss also from the year nineteen. 0:52:37.239 --> 0:52:38.359 Ninety nine but. 0:52:38.440 --> 0:52:40.160 His thing in the movie is that he like he's. 0:52:40.200 --> 0:52:43.400 A coward, he's like while everybody else is being dashing 0:52:43.480 --> 0:52:46.400 and rushing, into danger he's always running away from danger 0:52:46.440 --> 0:52:50.759 and trying to save. His skin as so he is 0:52:51.520 --> 0:52:55.680 a comic relief. COWARD character i remember THINKING after I 0:52:55.760 --> 0:52:58.239 Watched the mummy one time we were joking in. MY 0:52:58.280 --> 0:53:00.799 house i thought a good photoshop job would be to 0:53:00.840 --> 0:53:05.680 Do A People Magazine Sexiest man alive cover from like nineteen, 0:53:05.719 --> 0:53:08.880 ninety nine, two thousand the. Millennial style but it's just 0:53:09.000 --> 0:53:12.080 O'Connor in character From, the mummy and It. SAYS benny 0:53:13.560 --> 0:53:15.759 i mean no Offense to kevin. Connor personally it's just 0:53:15.760 --> 0:53:19.719 like he plays these pathetic dweeb characters, very well and 0:53:19.760 --> 0:53:23.719 In the mummy his vices cowardice in virtuosity, and jeez It's. 0:53:23.840 --> 0:53:28.479 Lust, yep yeah we'll come back, to him. All right 0:53:29.040 --> 0:53:31.200 we have This Character, john donovan who's not in it 0:53:31.239 --> 0:53:36.320 for very long Played By kostas mandolar born nineteen. Sixty 0:53:36.360 --> 0:53:40.560 five i'm only mentioning him, Because, apparently mandolar we're going 0:53:40.560 --> 0:53:43.240 to play a pivotal role in The later. SAW sequels 0:53:43.600 --> 0:53:45.719 i had asked My Friend david streepy about this because 0:53:45.760 --> 0:53:48.959 he's he's really up On the, saw movies the, soap 0:53:49.000 --> 0:53:51.319 opera noess, of them not so much the murder. Of 0:53:51.360 --> 0:53:53.640 them but, he, says quote the back half of the 0:53:53.680 --> 0:53:55.759 franchise can't happen, without him so. 0:53:56.000 --> 0:53:58.120 Fair enough he's a load bearing. 0:53:58.120 --> 0:54:04.360 Element, exactly oh and then We Have kaylee quoko playing 0:54:04.560 --> 0:54:08.880 The Character, karen carter a little girl in this born nineteen. 0:54:08.920 --> 0:54:11.200 Eighty five this little girl would go on To become 0:54:11.280 --> 0:54:13.520 penny On The Big. Bang theory i'm. 0:54:13.320 --> 0:54:15.600 Not A Big bang, theory WATCHER so i don't know, 0:54:15.680 --> 0:54:18.640 the character but when she shows up as the child in, 0:54:18.680 --> 0:54:21.520 this movie you just like instantly, are like, oh no 0:54:22.239 --> 0:54:25.080 the conversation with this child is going on, too long 0:54:25.160 --> 0:54:27.520 and that means definitely the child will be in peril 0:54:27.560 --> 0:54:28.240 in the, third. 0:54:28.040 --> 0:54:29.760 Act where you're going to get Into A gene siskal 0:54:29.840 --> 0:54:30.440 situation with. 0:54:30.520 --> 0:54:34.160 This Character Yeahs russell crowe is going to kidnap her 0:54:34.200 --> 0:54:35.799 and tire her to a bomb like we saw on. 0:54:35.840 --> 0:54:36.839 The flashback it's. 0:54:36.960 --> 0:54:40.040 Very. Predictable yeah quoco has been in a bunch of 0:54:40.040 --> 0:54:43.600 interesting Projects Post Big, bang THEORY Including TVs The, flight 0:54:43.600 --> 0:54:45.719 ATTENDANT which i. DID watch i thought she was very good. 0:54:45.719 --> 0:54:48.880 In that she Also Voices harley quinn on The Current 0:54:48.920 --> 0:54:53.319 harley quinn. Animated series, Oh, Cool Oh tracy lord's. Is 0:54:53.360 --> 0:54:56.400 back we talked about Her. In blade she's one of 0:54:56.400 --> 0:55:00.680 the vampire Henchmen. In blade here she Played A media, 0:55:00.800 --> 0:55:03.600 Zone SINGER so i think she's sort of playing. Herself 0:55:03.640 --> 0:55:08.320 here this is another film where we have some major nineties, 0:55:08.440 --> 0:55:10.840 rave ENERGY and i think that's like where she was 0:55:10.920 --> 0:55:14.279 at this point, With her like, You know reinventions is a, 0:55:14.360 --> 0:55:17.560 musical act and so she kind of plays herself here 0:55:17.680 --> 0:55:20.279 performing The Track, fallen angel which is also on. 0:55:20.320 --> 0:55:22.680 THE soundtrack i was going to talk about, this later 0:55:22.719 --> 0:55:27.160 but you kind of can't have a, really Complete coherent 0:55:27.239 --> 0:55:30.920 cyberslot movie without a techno. Club scene you always have to. 0:55:30.960 --> 0:55:33.680 Have one not all the movies, have one but when 0:55:33.960 --> 0:55:36.759 you don't, have one you feel. Its absence it's like 0:55:36.800 --> 0:55:38.120 the movie, is impure it. 0:55:38.200 --> 0:55:41.399 Is, Incomplete yeah like people Watch the matrix and, they're 0:55:41.440 --> 0:55:43.880 like where's the club scene, and there and everyone, was, 0:55:43.920 --> 0:55:45.279 like well we got to do that in the sequel and. 0:55:45.320 --> 0:55:47.400 They, did no there is a club scene In. The, 0:55:47.400 --> 0:55:49.720 matrix well it's only. Very brief it's at the beginning 0:55:49.760 --> 0:55:52.160 in the, real world when, they're, like okay they like 0:55:52.560 --> 0:55:55.480 some friends Coming To keanu. Reeves's apartment they take him 0:55:55.520 --> 0:55:57.200 out to a CLUB and i think He meets. Trinity 0:55:57.239 --> 0:55:58.719 there it's only it goes by in a. 0:55:58.719 --> 0:56:01.279 Few, seconds okay it's been a While since i'm the 0:56:01.280 --> 0:56:04.279 cusp of Rewatching, the MATRIX and i mainly remember there's 0:56:04.280 --> 0:56:09.000 definitely like a real world rave scene in, the sequel 0:56:09.120 --> 0:56:11.360 or maybe the. THIRD one i. Can't remember one of 0:56:11.400 --> 0:56:14.239 the two sequels where, they're, like hey it's the eve 0:56:14.280 --> 0:56:16.160 Of The, big battle let's have a rager and. 0:56:16.200 --> 0:56:18.839 THEY do i still haven't seen. The sequels, OH. 0:56:18.600 --> 0:56:22.480 What I guess i'm on the cusp of rewatching the sequels, 0:56:22.480 --> 0:56:26.600 as Well so i'll. Report, back okay. All, right finally 0:56:26.640 --> 0:56:29.440 the composer Here Is christopher young born nineteen, fifty eight 0:56:30.120 --> 0:56:34.840 And essentially young built an electronic orchestral score here around 0:56:34.920 --> 0:56:38.840 the movie's needle drop score of mostly electronic dance music 0:56:39.560 --> 0:56:42.360 with some rock and Even A peter gabriel track, thrown 0:56:42.400 --> 0:56:46.160 IN and i WOULD say I think young does a 0:56:46.160 --> 0:56:49.040 pretty seamless. Job here the soundtrack features music by the 0:56:49.160 --> 0:56:53.920 Likes Of Live, Black Grape, Juno Reactor Tricky, William Orbit, 0:56:54.080 --> 0:56:58.239 London beat Lords, Of Acid, Tracy Lords, Debbie Harry, the 0:56:58.239 --> 0:57:02.040 beg's and Again That party man Track From. Peter gabriel 0:57:02.120 --> 0:57:02.680 co Written By. 0:57:02.719 --> 0:57:09.640 Tory Amos The party man track is surprisingly, emotionally gripping like, you, 0:57:09.680 --> 0:57:13.080 know oh you really feel the strain in. His voice 0:57:13.360 --> 0:57:15.440 it's a weird thing to hear right after you just 0:57:15.440 --> 0:57:19.840 saw them Like destroy sid six point seven's personality module 0:57:19.960 --> 0:57:22.320 by having it run over by a track after, you 0:57:22.360 --> 0:57:25.040 know they had to like shoot a. COMPUTER programmer. 0:57:26.120 --> 0:57:29.920 I guess i'm Your. Party, MAN yeah. I believe it's 0:57:29.920 --> 0:57:33.120 a track That the gabriel and company did for, this 0:57:33.320 --> 0:57:38.320 production was later collected on an album that collected different 0:57:38.360 --> 0:57:40.680 songs that he did for different, film productions. 0:57:40.520 --> 0:57:43.560 And has the same title as a song From The prince. Batman, 0:57:43.680 --> 0:57:47.360 soundtrack yes it seems to Refer To Jack, nicholson's joker 0:57:48.880 --> 0:57:59.360 but it's not the. SAME song i checked, all right 0:57:59.400 --> 0:58:03.040 let's dive in the plot. Of virtuosity so the opening 0:58:03.080 --> 0:58:06.200 titles are made of pixels that slither in and out. 0:58:06.200 --> 0:58:09.480 Of form the, opening track by, the Way is It's 0:58:09.520 --> 0:58:11.800 A big day In the north By the English Band, 0:58:11.880 --> 0:58:15.960 black grape which is a powerfully nostalgic. SOUND rob i 0:58:16.000 --> 0:58:17.600 don't know if you felt the SAME way, i did but, 0:58:17.920 --> 0:58:21.600 hearing this it's like A Nineties english you might call 0:58:21.640 --> 0:58:25.120 this jazz pop or maybe, pop funk that sort. Of 0:58:25.160 --> 0:58:29.520 sound it's got something in it like. ELECTRONIC saxophone i 0:58:29.720 --> 0:58:33.800 mainly encountered this type of music through, movie SOUNDTRACKS so 0:58:33.880 --> 0:58:37.640 i associate it with seeing movies in the theaters in. 0:58:37.680 --> 0:58:40.120 The, nineties Yep, absolutely. 0:58:40.200 --> 0:58:42.320 Sorry we just had an extended a Side off mike 0:58:42.360 --> 0:58:44.600 where we're talking about what genre of music, this is 0:58:44.680 --> 0:58:48.120 and we did not come to. A conclusion so maybe 0:58:48.120 --> 0:58:51.600 we'll revisit that in, the future maybe for. Listener mail, 0:58:52.080 --> 0:58:54.880 But anyway so what's actually happening in the Opening scene 0:58:55.040 --> 0:58:57.320 when the credits, are done we pop up in, a 0:58:57.360 --> 0:59:02.280 sleek futuristic train station full of steel and sterile, white 0:59:02.320 --> 0:59:06.840 lighting and it's filled with people dressed. Almost identically everybody 0:59:06.920 --> 0:59:09.800 is it's like men in gray suits with, black ties. 0:59:09.880 --> 0:59:15.080 Carrying briefcases they're walking around synchronized, in pairs and the 0:59:15.120 --> 0:59:17.960 only people who don't match are two men in blue 0:59:18.080 --> 0:59:23.240 full body leather police uniforms wearing wearing, black, caps boots. 0:59:23.280 --> 0:59:27.760 And gloves so we watched these two policemen step cautiously 0:59:27.880 --> 0:59:30.680 off of an elevated train onto. The platform they're, looking 0:59:30.720 --> 0:59:33.840 around and one of the Men Is. Denzel washington this is, 0:59:33.880 --> 0:59:38.160 Our Hero. Parker, barnes now while both men, look vigilant 0:59:38.680 --> 0:59:41.760 we quickly Realize that barnes is the more assured of. 0:59:41.800 --> 0:59:44.800 The two he's being cautious, and observant and the other 0:59:44.800 --> 0:59:47.800 guy seems a little. More afraid and the other, guy, 0:59:47.840 --> 0:59:51.080 GOES man i can't get over how different, we Look and, 0:59:51.160 --> 0:59:55.560 barnes says maybe it's. The UNIFORMS so i think this 0:59:55.800 --> 0:59:58.040 opening is supposed to be a bit of a, fake 0:59:58.120 --> 1:00:00.479 out like you're supposed to wonder what the are talking, 1:00:00.560 --> 1:00:03.840 about here why everything looks a. Little odd, BUT this 1:00:04.280 --> 1:00:07.040 i think really does not work because it's obvious they're 1:00:07.040 --> 1:00:09.840 in a virtual. Reality world you can guess this if 1:00:09.880 --> 1:00:13.120 you've seen. The trailer and it's even more obvious because 1:00:13.120 --> 1:00:16.440 you keep seeing people like glitching and turning into pixels. And. Stuff, 1:00:16.520 --> 1:00:19.840 yeah yeah so they did not have me going. Here 1:00:20.920 --> 1:00:23.920 anyway they start running around looking, for somebody and eventually 1:00:23.960 --> 1:00:27.120 they end up in this business district plaza where there 1:00:27.200 --> 1:00:31.400 is a green floating cgi head made out of polygons 1:00:31.440 --> 1:00:34.240 giving a news report about a bunch of. Gruesome crimes 1:00:34.760 --> 1:00:38.480 i'm pretty sure It's Actually russell crow's doing the voice of, 1:00:38.520 --> 1:00:42.320 this thing but in a kind of tight, newscaster cadence 1:00:42.840 --> 1:00:46.800 and he says the three adjectives which best describe this killer, are, 1:00:46.920 --> 1:00:49.920 sadistic intelligent. And dangerous what is? 1:00:50.000 --> 1:00:52.440 That spell? SPELL said i thought we were going to 1:00:52.520 --> 1:00:56.200 say stink, stank stunk but that would have been. Great 1:00:56.240 --> 1:00:58.840 too this is six. 1:00:58.880 --> 1:01:03.200 Point Seven so denzel eventually traces their quarry To a. 1:01:03.280 --> 1:01:06.960 Japanese restaurant he knows to look there because he looks 1:01:07.120 --> 1:01:11.240 over the restaurant entrance on the building and sees an 1:01:11.280 --> 1:01:15.280 emoticon smiley face like the colon parentheses smiley face over. 1:01:15.320 --> 1:01:18.440 The entrance it's, a Joke and sid six point seven. 1:01:18.600 --> 1:01:22.040 Likes chokes and when we First, find sid he is 1:01:22.120 --> 1:01:26.080 repeatedly eating a piece of sushi that regenerates every time 1:01:26.120 --> 1:01:27.760 he picks it up off the plate and. Eats IT 1:01:27.840 --> 1:01:30.280 so i think it, suggests that, you know here in, 1:01:30.360 --> 1:01:33.440 this world no matter how how much, he eats he never. 1:01:33.480 --> 1:01:37.360 Gets full it's like he's unsatisfied with the intangible pleasures 1:01:37.360 --> 1:01:37.600 of the. 1:01:37.600 --> 1:01:40.720 FAKE world i. LIKE this i also like how the 1:01:41.160 --> 1:01:43.880 NPCs are like glitching as they eat. Their sushi they're 1:01:43.880 --> 1:01:46.240 just kind of like sushi floating into. Their mouth so 1:01:46.480 --> 1:01:48.320 this is definitely the section of the section of, the 1:01:48.360 --> 1:01:50.200 picture one of the sections of the picture in the 1:01:50.200 --> 1:01:55.000 digital world where the roughness of the digital effects is 1:01:55.040 --> 1:01:58.280 one of the charms and. Absolutely works doesn't feel dated 1:01:58.280 --> 1:02:00.680 at all, because like this is exact exactly the look 1:02:00.720 --> 1:02:00.960 they were. 1:02:01.000 --> 1:02:04.600 Going, for yeah and so this of course turns into 1:02:04.680 --> 1:02:08.160 a big. Gunfight scene both the COPS and sid just 1:02:08.160 --> 1:02:12.240 start blasting everywhere with, machine guns AND the npc is 1:02:12.280 --> 1:02:14.960 eating in the restaurant mostly appear to not notice this 1:02:15.040 --> 1:02:17.720 and they just keep sitting at. Their tables so in, 1:02:17.760 --> 1:02:22.040 this world by nineteen, ninety nine virtual reality has nearly 1:02:22.200 --> 1:02:27.240 one hundred percent immersion and totally realistic, graphical FIDELITY but 1:02:27.680 --> 1:02:31.320 npc behavior has like not quite reached the level of 1:02:31.360 --> 1:02:34.360 The mid grand theft auto games where people at least 1:02:34.400 --> 1:02:35.600 like scream and run away when. 1:02:35.600 --> 1:02:39.560 Something explodes but, you know this is how the mid 1:02:40.240 --> 1:02:42.800 grand theft auto, games felt when the mid grand theft 1:02:42.840 --> 1:02:45.120 atto games felt out like they felt like this level, 1:02:45.160 --> 1:02:48.400 of IMMERSION like i actually Live in miami in the 1:02:48.480 --> 1:02:50.080 nineteen like, you, know. 1:02:51.120 --> 1:02:54.840 Yeah yeah, so anyway this fight GOES on sid and 1:02:54.840 --> 1:02:57.760 the cops keep shooting at. Each other at one point 1:02:57.800 --> 1:03:00.160 it is Revealed That russell crowe has like caught and 1:03:00.320 --> 1:03:02.720 electrocuted the. OTHER cop i think you see him on 1:03:02.880 --> 1:03:07.120 ice and like a. Sushi tray and at one point 1:03:07.120 --> 1:03:10.400 they borrow a Page from Speed and barnes gets the 1:03:10.440 --> 1:03:14.439 upper hand by shooting a. Digital hostage he will. Later 1:03:14.480 --> 1:03:17.360 explain they later Are, like barnes why did you shoot? 1:03:17.360 --> 1:03:19.560 The hostage that doesn't make. Any sense but then he 1:03:19.600 --> 1:03:22.640 has a. Clever answer, he's like the hostage. Wasn't real 1:03:23.480 --> 1:03:24.040 didn't think, Of. 1:03:24.080 --> 1:03:27.680 That, Sid yeah because what we're going to learn shortly 1:03:27.800 --> 1:03:31.880 is this is a training simulation for. Police OFFICERS but 1:03:32.200 --> 1:03:35.840 i really have, to add, like clearly for cinematic, police 1:03:35.840 --> 1:03:39.439 officers there's nothing in this training that indicates any kind 1:03:39.480 --> 1:03:43.400 of like actual, police training any kind of procedure. Or, 1:03:43.400 --> 1:03:45.880 anything yeah it's just like what if you had A 1:03:45.880 --> 1:03:48.440 big hollywood action scene with a super. Criminal. 1:03:48.880 --> 1:03:52.240 Exactly yeah so at the end, Of this sid gets 1:03:52.280 --> 1:03:54.960 the upper hand in the fight and he starts Choking 1:03:54.960 --> 1:03:58.920 out Barnes until barnes like, glitches out which looks, super 1:03:58.960 --> 1:04:03.640 funny and then he sort of fades out, of existence 1:04:03.680 --> 1:04:06.280 like he's being sucked out OF the, vr world and 1:04:06.320 --> 1:04:10.280 we're treated to a shot OF a cgi bullet Wound 1:04:10.320 --> 1:04:14.240 on sid's body rapidly healing with classic electrical zap z. 1:04:14.240 --> 1:04:18.520 App fully but then our human characters come out OF. 1:04:18.680 --> 1:04:21.520 The vr so we zoom out into a room in 1:04:22.080 --> 1:04:25.040 the real world in, meat space where We see sid 1:04:25.240 --> 1:04:28.320 standing there in his green suit on A giant, Tv 1:04:28.520 --> 1:04:31.480 screen so like in the virtual, reality studio there's a, 1:04:31.560 --> 1:04:35.040 huge screen it's like fifteen, feet tall where we see 1:04:35.120 --> 1:04:38.920 what's happening in the, virtual world and we immediately hear 1:04:38.960 --> 1:04:41.480 the sounds of like men groaning, in agony and we 1:04:41.520 --> 1:04:44.720 see them writhing IN their, vr seats and an automated 1:04:44.800 --> 1:04:48.720 voice is, saying warning subjects exceeding the maximum dose of. Neural, 1:04:48.760 --> 1:04:54.120 information now maybe we should briefly hear comment on what 1:04:54.200 --> 1:04:56.720 it looks like when you see the people in the 1:04:56.720 --> 1:04:59.960 physical space IN the. VR rigs i thought This was 1:05:00.000 --> 1:05:04.040 it's also quite funny because they're like jiggling around and 1:05:04.080 --> 1:05:06.400 miming the motions they do in the. Virtual world like 1:05:06.440 --> 1:05:09.240 there's a part later where We see denzel running in the, 1:05:09.360 --> 1:05:12.080 rig yep and he's like pumping his arms and legs 1:05:12.120 --> 1:05:13.640 but not, going anywhere and it's. 1:05:13.720 --> 1:05:16.760 Hilarious, that yeah it really. Looks hilarious later when, they're, 1:05:16.800 --> 1:05:20.840 running yes here, you know they're just squirming. In pain, so, 1:05:21.040 --> 1:05:23.440 yeah yeah it looks a bit goofy. 1:05:23.520 --> 1:05:26.400 Later, on yeah so they're strapped into these dangling like 1:05:26.520 --> 1:05:28.440 combine dentist CHAIRS wearing. 1:05:28.520 --> 1:05:30.120 Vr devisors they're not. 1:05:30.160 --> 1:05:33.960 Going anywhere and then also you see a little computer 1:05:34.040 --> 1:05:36.440 read out that shows A three d representation of the 1:05:36.440 --> 1:05:40.080 player's heads and there are like these red and yellow 1:05:40.120 --> 1:05:44.960 explosions inside. The, skulls fortunately It seems denzel gets out just. 1:05:45.040 --> 1:05:47.320 In time he's, like rattled but. He's okay but the, 1:05:47.400 --> 1:05:49.680 other guy, uh oh the other guy is having. Violent 1:05:49.720 --> 1:05:53.560 seizures he gets pulled off onto a hospital gurney and 1:05:53.600 --> 1:05:56.320 you see them like doing a defibrillater on him and 1:05:56.480 --> 1:05:56.880 you learn. 1:05:56.920 --> 1:06:00.600 He, dies yeah they try really hard for darn near 1:06:00.760 --> 1:06:03.080 ten seconds to, save him but then laup roll. Him 1:06:03.080 --> 1:06:03.400 out he's. 1:06:03.400 --> 1:06:07.400 Done for also in, the scene we meet basically all 1:06:07.440 --> 1:06:10.000 of the film's. MAJOR characters i don't think there's anybody 1:06:10.120 --> 1:06:12.280 major we have to. Meet later we already talked about. 1:06:12.320 --> 1:06:15.840 Them earlier all of the, various functionaries commissioners and. Company 1:06:15.840 --> 1:06:20.200 guys i'm not gonna dwell, on them but they're all standing. 1:06:20.240 --> 1:06:22.240 Around watching you can kind of group them as like 1:06:22.280 --> 1:06:25.280 who's good and who's bad based on. Their reaction you've 1:06:25.320 --> 1:06:28.480 got the good guys like the police Chief And kelly, 1:06:28.560 --> 1:06:32.880 lynch's Character Doctor. Madison carter they're concerned about the. Test subjects, they're, 1:06:32.920 --> 1:06:34.600 like oh get those men out. Of there he's going. 1:06:34.640 --> 1:06:37.800 Into shock and then you've got the kind of middle to, 1:06:37.960 --> 1:06:42.480 bad guys like the. Indifferent Characters That's william Fitchner And. 1:06:42.600 --> 1:06:45.680 Louise fletcher they're just kind of standing there. Watching coldly 1:06:46.880 --> 1:06:49.680 and at Some point, dean said there's like some very 1:06:49.800 --> 1:06:55.320 klutzy exposition Dialogue Where louis fletcher's character says virtual reality 1:06:55.360 --> 1:06:57.600 was supposed to be a safe place to train my law. 1:06:57.680 --> 1:07:00.960 Enforcement officers and one Of the williams, is like that's 1:07:01.000 --> 1:07:03.840 why we were using convicts to ferret out any glitches in. 1:07:03.880 --> 1:07:06.960 The system and they have this exchange is they're driving 1:07:06.960 --> 1:07:09.960 away in a golf cart by, the way and then 1:07:10.000 --> 1:07:13.640 finally we meet this the obvious, Bad Guy darryl lindenmeyer 1:07:13.880 --> 1:07:16.880 that again is Played By, steven spinella who looks confusingly 1:07:17.000 --> 1:07:20.360 Similar To, William fitchener like they look alike and dress. 1:07:20.480 --> 1:07:24.840 The same it's almost like they accidentally cast both actors 1:07:24.880 --> 1:07:26.840 as the same character and, they're, like, well crap we've 1:07:26.840 --> 1:07:30.280 got to pick one and just make a role for the. Other, guy, yeah, yeah. 1:07:30.360 --> 1:07:32.920 Yeah Yeah william fitchener also could have played this. 1:07:33.000 --> 1:07:33.400 Other guy. 1:07:33.480 --> 1:07:36.840 Yeah yeah but he's like the creator OF the vr 1:07:36.960 --> 1:07:39.120 system and they're they're sort of grilling him about the. 1:07:39.120 --> 1:07:43.880 Fail safes he seems squirrely. And untrustworthy but we get 1:07:43.920 --> 1:07:47.000 some backstory in the scene. As well the Chief Tells, 1:07:47.080 --> 1:07:50.760 parker barnes, you know he acknowledges that they're, old friends and, 1:07:50.760 --> 1:07:52.560 he says it was good to see you in, uniform 1:07:52.600 --> 1:07:58.640 again even if it was only. Virtual, Reality meanwhile barnes 1:07:58.880 --> 1:08:02.120 is he's. Got insights he's like sid six. Point seven. 1:08:02.160 --> 1:08:05.080 He's CHEATING and i know he's CHEATING because i hacked 1:08:05.080 --> 1:08:07.960 the main frame before we, went in and he's not 1:08:08.040 --> 1:08:10.480 allowed to use electricity as, a weapon but he, did 1:08:10.560 --> 1:08:13.640 anyway and he goes and he like tries to show, 1:08:13.640 --> 1:08:17.240 the Chief, but lindenmeyer whose first Name is daryl by, 1:08:17.240 --> 1:08:20.400 The Way, Daryl lindenmeyer, he's, like no get away, from 1:08:20.439 --> 1:08:23.360 there and so obviously that's setting up. 1:08:23.360 --> 1:08:27.000 A conflict i want to mention that at this point 1:08:27.360 --> 1:08:31.320 in the, Real World denzel Washington's Character parker barnes has. 1:08:31.360 --> 1:08:34.280 Great hair he has like, really cool like futuristic. Feeling 1:08:34.320 --> 1:08:36.720 hair he's not going to get to keep this hair 1:08:37.000 --> 1:08:38.640 for the rest of, the PICTURE and i was a 1:08:38.640 --> 1:08:39.440 little disappointed. 1:08:39.439 --> 1:08:41.280 By, that yeah they give him a haircut before they 1:08:41.320 --> 1:08:42.000 send him out on a. 1:08:42.000 --> 1:08:45.600 Mission later why is his hair super cool and cultivated? 1:08:45.680 --> 1:08:48.400 In prison but then once, he's free. IT'S cut i, 1:08:48.400 --> 1:08:50.200 DON'T know i, DON'T know i. 1:08:50.200 --> 1:08:53.200 Don't know, But, anyway okay so they send him back. 1:08:53.240 --> 1:08:56.080 To prison there's one brief thing here where, they, show 1:08:56.080 --> 1:08:58.280 oh he's got a. Metallic limb he like goes through 1:08:58.280 --> 1:09:02.639 a scanner and, it's like, remember, that folks it doesn't 1:09:02.640 --> 1:09:04.519 look it just looks like a normal arm from, the 1:09:04.560 --> 1:09:07.439 outside but they show you'll scan as he's going through 1:09:07.479 --> 1:09:11.160 and it's apparently a. Metal Arm when barnes is sent back, 1:09:11.160 --> 1:09:14.320 to prison he randomly has to fight A. NEO nazi 1:09:14.479 --> 1:09:17.639 i did not understand why this OCCURRED when i first. 1:09:17.680 --> 1:09:21.000 Watched it it was almost like suggesting this fight was 1:09:21.280 --> 1:09:24.760 arranged by the powers, that be like they were trying 1:09:24.800 --> 1:09:27.640 to silence him ABOUT the vr program. Or SOMETHING but 1:09:27.720 --> 1:09:30.360 i don't think there's any follow through to, confirm THAT 1:09:30.479 --> 1:09:31.240 so i don't know why. 1:09:31.320 --> 1:09:35.360 This happened it's also, very stylistic so you could almost 1:09:35.360 --> 1:09:37.960 think we're back in, a simulation just because it does 1:09:38.000 --> 1:09:41.040 not look like you're it's a, FUTURE prison, i. Guess 1:09:41.240 --> 1:09:44.000 yeah and you don't see any of the. Inmates directly 1:09:44.000 --> 1:09:47.320 they're all behind like some sort of a like a 1:09:47.360 --> 1:09:49.400 some sort of a glass or, a screen so you 1:09:49.439 --> 1:09:49.680 just see. 1:09:49.680 --> 1:09:54.040 Their, silhouettes, Yes Yes so denzel goes into this. Big 1:09:54.080 --> 1:09:57.120 hall there's nobody else, in it all these silhouettes of 1:09:57.160 --> 1:10:00.880 prisoners lined up like an audience mocking and jeering. At 1:10:00.960 --> 1:10:04.760 him you only see them behind these. Silk screens and 1:10:04.800 --> 1:10:07.120 then from the opposite end of. The hall this gross 1:10:07.120 --> 1:10:10.599 guy with a white power tattoo and an improvised stabbing 1:10:10.640 --> 1:10:13.639 weapon comes out and then, they fight And then barnes 1:10:13.680 --> 1:10:17.400 defeats him with superior training and tactics as well as 1:10:17.400 --> 1:10:20.160 at least one brutal uppercut to, the groin and then 1:10:20.200 --> 1:10:22.559 a bunch of guards rush in and Beat up BARNS 1:10:23.040 --> 1:10:24.920 and i don't understand why. 1:10:24.920 --> 1:10:28.679 This, happened yeah it's so STYLISTIC that i was expecting 1:10:28.760 --> 1:10:32.120 him to Beat the nazi to death With An, apple 1:10:32.200 --> 1:10:33.760 macintosh but it IS how i. Went. 1:10:33.800 --> 1:10:37.720 Down okay then we go on to another scene with our. 1:10:37.760 --> 1:10:40.400 Bad guys this is let me tell you a, secret 1:10:40.439 --> 1:10:45.160 scene which is pretty. Pretty solid So Remember darryl lindenmeyer 1:10:45.200 --> 1:10:48.360 the Computer. Company creep he's IN the vr space and 1:10:48.360 --> 1:10:50.840 he walks up TO the cid screen where the screen 1:10:50.920 --> 1:10:53.000 is On and sid is in there playing a piano 1:10:53.479 --> 1:10:57.080 in a green satin suit in a Beyond the mind's 1:10:57.160 --> 1:11:00.960 eye dune sea landscape and tells him you, Know, What, 1:11:01.120 --> 1:11:04.160 Sorry sid i'm gonna have to. Deactivate you, HE says 1:11:04.200 --> 1:11:07.160 i know it was you who increased the neural. Sensitivity 1:11:07.200 --> 1:11:12.000 calibrations you murdered, that prisoner And then, SID says i 1:11:12.040 --> 1:11:15.200 can't CHANGE what, I. Am darryl i'm a fifty terabyte 1:11:15.240 --> 1:11:19.040 self evolving neural network double backflip off the. High platform 1:11:19.479 --> 1:11:21.800 i'm not a. Swan DIVE and i have to, tell 1:11:21.840 --> 1:11:22.880 you killing for. 1:11:22.920 --> 1:11:24.120 Real it was a. 1:11:24.200 --> 1:11:30.240 REAL rush i always. LOVE these a Lot of cyberslot 1:11:30.280 --> 1:11:32.640 movies have a monologue, like THIS like i am a 1:11:32.680 --> 1:11:36.160 masterpiece of. Evil evil i'm pretty sure job In lawnmower 1:11:36.200 --> 1:11:40.200 man has a speech a lot. Like this this one is. Relatively, 1:11:40.200 --> 1:11:44.120 short also when he lands after doing, his backflips he 1:11:44.240 --> 1:11:47.599 explodes into a bunch. Of bats and you, know what beyond, 1:11:47.640 --> 1:11:49.760 THE minds i had a. BAT swarm i think that 1:11:49.840 --> 1:11:52.120 must have been part of A standard cg package in. 1:11:52.160 --> 1:11:56.200 The Nineties because sid is not really associated. With bats it's, 1:11:56.240 --> 1:11:58.680 not like, you know what else does he have to do. 1:11:58.760 --> 1:12:02.200 With bats IT seems i don't. Know where, but anyway after, 1:12:02.280 --> 1:12:04.479 he says, YOU know i love killing. For real it was, 1:12:04.520 --> 1:12:08.040 really Good lynden, meyer goes Oh, my god and then the. 1:12:08.080 --> 1:12:11.719 Monologue continues it's. Quite good, sid Says what god would? 1:12:11.760 --> 1:12:14.160 That be the one who created you or the one who? 1:12:14.160 --> 1:12:17.080 Created me you see in, your World the lord giveth 1:12:17.120 --> 1:12:19.559 And the lord. Taketh away but in, my world the 1:12:19.560 --> 1:12:22.639 one who gave me life doesn't have. Any balls you 1:12:22.680 --> 1:12:25.639 are frightfully inadequate for, A deity DARRYL and i will 1:12:25.640 --> 1:12:25.960 not be. 1:12:26.120 --> 1:12:27.480 Shut, down. 1:12:28.560 --> 1:12:31.400 Okay so, that's corny but for what it is That, slaps, 1:12:31.640 --> 1:12:35.240 Yeah YEAH and i should add this whole sequence is 1:12:35.280 --> 1:12:35.639 just very. 1:12:35.680 --> 1:12:39.439 Well shot it's a great integration between the live action 1:12:39.520 --> 1:12:42.439 performance and the use of, the screens Which was i'm 1:12:42.439 --> 1:12:44.320 to understand all the screens in the film were. In 1:12:44.400 --> 1:12:48.680 camera I'm not i'm assuming at least some of it 1:12:48.760 --> 1:12:51.320 was not live. To screen leonard points out that a 1:12:51.320 --> 1:12:53.360 lot of skill went into making sure all these screens 1:12:53.360 --> 1:12:55.559 were set upright and, you know could be seen on 1:12:55.640 --> 1:12:56.240 camera in the. 1:12:56.479 --> 1:13:00.519 Optimal, Way yeah i'm impressed they achieved. That anyway so in, 1:13:00.560 --> 1:13:03.360 The scene, darryl says, You, know sid you cannot exist 1:13:03.439 --> 1:13:06.320 without the approval of. The authorities you are software and 1:13:06.360 --> 1:13:09.920 you need hardware to. Run On so sid comes up with. 1:13:09.960 --> 1:13:13.800 A plan what is? That plan, he says sacrifice? Your, 1:13:13.880 --> 1:13:17.320 queen ooh, cryptic meaning and then the camera kind of. 1:13:17.320 --> 1:13:19.760 CREEPS in i, like this there's this slow, creep in and, 1:13:19.800 --> 1:13:21.000 he says let me tell you. A. 1:13:21.080 --> 1:13:26.559 Secret. Yeah yeah the scene lands in an excellent Place 1:13:26.600 --> 1:13:30.360 here at that, Being said i'm not exactly sure what the. 1:13:30.400 --> 1:13:32.759 SECRET was, I mean i don't need, to know because 1:13:33.000 --> 1:13:36.519 the scene still connected on an emotional level and certainly 1:13:36.600 --> 1:13:41.120 established our villain and some semblance of his plot with 1:13:41.240 --> 1:13:46.960 his creator. Turned WORSHIPER but i have some guesses what 1:13:47.000 --> 1:13:50.160 the secret, might be but it's not. Really clear maybe 1:13:50.200 --> 1:13:50.960 we can come back, to that. 1:13:51.640 --> 1:13:54.440 All right so we also get the Scene where barnes 1:13:54.560 --> 1:13:58.439 meets With Doctor Madison Carter. Kelly lynch, she like. Comes 1:13:58.439 --> 1:14:00.880 in they have an interview in, the prison. Introduces herself 1:14:00.920 --> 1:14:04.160 she's a criminal Psychologist And william forsyth asked her to 1:14:04.200 --> 1:14:07.519 do a Profile on barnes that may be useful in reducing. 1:14:07.560 --> 1:14:10.920 His sentence so. They talk she asks him about. The 1:14:10.920 --> 1:14:14.000 fight he says he was. Defending himself she asks him 1:14:14.000 --> 1:14:17.000 about whether he was attracted to violence as. A child, he's, 1:14:17.080 --> 1:14:21.160 like yeah, Three stooges wiley coyote. Was great, Nice answer 1:14:21.680 --> 1:14:23.840 and as they, keep talking it starts to seem like 1:14:23.880 --> 1:14:27.000 what she's really interested In Is. RUSSELL crowe, i mean 1:14:27.000 --> 1:14:29.760 what's everybody INTERESTED in i think she wants to write 1:14:29.760 --> 1:14:32.439 a book on the criminal Genius of sid six. Point 1:14:32.479 --> 1:14:35.559 seven so she starts kind Of quizzing denzel about his. 1:14:35.680 --> 1:14:37.880 Virtual enemy, she's like how did you know he'd be 1:14:37.880 --> 1:14:40.400 In the? Japanese Restaurant and barnes explains what an. 1:14:40.400 --> 1:14:40.960 Emoticon. 1:14:41.120 --> 1:14:46.280 Is yeah we also hear get the first Hints of barnes's, 1:14:46.360 --> 1:14:49.600 tragic backstory which gets revealed in a trickle throughout. THE 1:14:49.600 --> 1:14:51.679 movie I think i'm going to cut to the chase 1:14:51.720 --> 1:14:54.400 and just summarize the whole thing here so we don't trickle. 1:14:54.400 --> 1:14:57.519 It in so the Deal is barnes was some kind 1:14:57.520 --> 1:15:02.040 of elite detective on the case of a Man Named, 1:15:02.120 --> 1:15:05.719 matthew grimes which They call they say he was a quote, 1:15:05.760 --> 1:15:10.120 political TERRORIST and i like how they specify a political 1:15:10.240 --> 1:15:12.640 terrorist to make it clear he's not like a. Culinary 1:15:12.720 --> 1:15:16.760 terrorist but if he's a, political terrorist what were? His 1:15:16.840 --> 1:15:20.200 politics that is not. Really clear at one point we 1:15:20.240 --> 1:15:23.040 see him speaking to the media about the haves and, 1:15:23.160 --> 1:15:27.559 have nots but MOSTLY that i. Don't know that's back 1:15:27.600 --> 1:15:29.280 to THE thing i said at the beginning about like 1:15:29.960 --> 1:15:34.240 cultural objects just feeling like they're meaningless, In themselves like 1:15:34.760 --> 1:15:37.400 he could have inserted any kind of political rhetoric there 1:15:37.400 --> 1:15:38.000 and it would be the. 1:15:38.040 --> 1:15:42.960 Same, thing yeah this this particular detail of, his backstory 1:15:43.040 --> 1:15:45.479 like the basic shape. Of, it okay some some sort 1:15:45.520 --> 1:15:48.720 of a killer took out. His, family yeah, you know 1:15:48.760 --> 1:15:51.880 obviously that's a necessary part of what they're. Building here 1:15:52.200 --> 1:15:55.280 but all the details about this, GUY just i, don't 1:15:55.280 --> 1:15:57.719 know they're not. Very, convincing, like yeah like we could 1:15:57.720 --> 1:15:59.840 have we should have known less, about it because what 1:15:59.840 --> 1:16:03.200 we do learn is not convincing or certainly doesn't have 1:16:03.200 --> 1:16:03.720 as much of an. 1:16:03.720 --> 1:16:07.720 Emotional impact it has a real anti verisimilitude about his. 1:16:07.880 --> 1:16:12.639 Political terroristiness it suggests more that he just like simply 1:16:12.720 --> 1:16:17.000 loved crime. And, murder yeah and, so anyway but they 1:16:17.000 --> 1:16:19.519 tell the story of how this Guy kidnapped barnes's wife. 1:16:19.520 --> 1:16:21.719 And child he put them in a booby trapped room 1:16:22.160 --> 1:16:24.519 so That when barnes came to, rescue them it would trigger, 1:16:24.560 --> 1:16:27.040 a bomb and the bomb killed. His family and it's 1:16:27.080 --> 1:16:30.599 also The reason barnes now has the. Bionic arm And 1:16:30.640 --> 1:16:34.280 so carter is like asking him questions about like his 1:16:34.360 --> 1:16:37.000 backstory in, the scene and we get to learn that 1:16:37.040 --> 1:16:38.320 we see that he is a haunted. 1:16:38.360 --> 1:16:39.040 Broken man. 1:16:39.320 --> 1:16:40.960 All, right now from here we move on To the. 1:16:41.000 --> 1:16:44.559 Sheila scene so we're back IN the, cid warehouse, you 1:16:44.560 --> 1:16:46.639 know WHERE the vr world is projected on the, big 1:16:46.680 --> 1:16:51.360 screen and currently the person in here is a geeky Roboticist. 1:16:51.439 --> 1:16:55.400 Named Clyde HERE'S. Kevin, j O'Connor and he's playing would 1:16:55.400 --> 1:16:59.519 you call this? Sexy, Chess yes like like they're playing a, 1:16:59.640 --> 1:17:02.280 chess game moving around THESE giant cgi pieces on. A 1:17:02.320 --> 1:17:07.840 board but he's playing against this blonde seductress Character named 1:17:07.880 --> 1:17:11.080 sheila three, point two and she's like stretching out on 1:17:11.120 --> 1:17:13.840 the chase long and her. Silk pajamas so while like 1:17:13.920 --> 1:17:17.519 the big chest pieces zoom around and, she's, Like, oh clyde, 1:17:17.560 --> 1:17:19.320 YOU know i really would like you to come visit 1:17:19.400 --> 1:17:21.600 me IN the. Vr world there are so many games we. 1:17:21.600 --> 1:17:25.360 Could Play and clyde is basically drooling at. The, screen 1:17:26.479 --> 1:17:30.240 meanwhile the creepy Computer guy daryl comes up behind him and, 1:17:30.280 --> 1:17:34.599 he's like, You, know clyde she's. Very interactive here they 1:17:34.720 --> 1:17:38.000 sort of imply THAT the vr chairs that are being 1:17:38.120 --> 1:17:41.640 used in the police training simulator earlier that day have 1:17:41.800 --> 1:17:46.559 some kind of. Sexual interface we never see specifics on 1:17:46.600 --> 1:17:50.120 what these peripherals would. Look like i'm really curious how 1:17:50.160 --> 1:17:54.360 this was going to be used for. Training purposes and by, 1:17:54.360 --> 1:17:56.719 the way, once again no Offense to kevin, j O'Connor 1:17:56.720 --> 1:17:58.479 but i feel like they really go out of their 1:17:58.479 --> 1:18:01.599 way to make, him grow like come off. As gross 1:18:02.200 --> 1:18:05.479 he's filmed slightly from below while he's leering at, the 1:18:05.479 --> 1:18:08.519 screen so we're like looking a bit up his nose 1:18:08.720 --> 1:18:11.600 and seeing his wet. Front teeth they're like wet with 1:18:11.800 --> 1:18:14.799 spit and shining in, the light and he's just gazing 1:18:14.880 --> 1:18:18.960 like he's in a trance at. The screen And then clyde, is, like, Oh, 1:18:19.040 --> 1:18:22.680 YEAH darryl i need to use, your Gear but darryl, tells, him, no, 1:18:22.680 --> 1:18:25.599 No no i've got a. Better idea you are a, 1:18:25.680 --> 1:18:29.920 nano ROBOTICIST and i know that you have created the 1:18:29.960 --> 1:18:34.800 technology TO three d print a nanotech android out of, 1:18:34.840 --> 1:18:38.360 Blue goop so why don't you use your blue goop 1:18:38.479 --> 1:18:42.360 machine To make sheila three point TWO the vr model 1:18:42.520 --> 1:18:45.120 into a FULL three d robot in the. Real world 1:18:45.680 --> 1:18:48.839 AND then i guess y'all can. GET married i, Don't. 1:18:48.640 --> 1:18:52.080 Know so this is. So, Ridiculous obviously it's like you're 1:18:52.120 --> 1:18:59.800 storing the technology to print bodies for digital beings right 1:18:59.800 --> 1:19:03.760 now to the place where you store your digital mass murder. Of. 1:19:03.760 --> 1:19:07.519 Beings yes but then also it's like he's, Putting this 1:19:07.640 --> 1:19:10.200 darrel's putting this Together. For Clyde like clyde, was like, 1:19:10.280 --> 1:19:14.200 YOU know i could turn out a woman for all 1:19:14.240 --> 1:19:18.160 of my. Creepy lust i'd never thought about. That before 1:19:18.200 --> 1:19:20.200 this is my, life's WORK but i never put. 1:19:20.200 --> 1:19:23.120 This together you're, EXACTLY right i mean once like, and 1:19:23.240 --> 1:19:27.040 also this character is depicted as he has no attributes 1:19:27.160 --> 1:19:33.639 other than dozen nanotechnology robots and. Experiences, lust yeah so 1:19:34.600 --> 1:19:36.960 you might think those would connect in, his mind because 1:19:37.000 --> 1:19:39.160 that is all his mind is as. A character, but, 1:19:39.720 --> 1:19:44.439 Yeah anyway clyde agrees and then walks off looking kind 1:19:44.479 --> 1:19:48.080 of grimly determined in a very. Funny way And so 1:19:48.200 --> 1:19:52.040 darryl hangs back To grab sheila's quote module from the. 1:19:52.040 --> 1:19:54.639 Computer bank this is an important mcguffin in. The MOVIE 1:19:54.640 --> 1:19:58.080 every vr character has a little like plastic polyhedron that's 1:19:58.080 --> 1:20:02.000 got their brain. Inside, It oh darryl pulls the switcheroo 1:20:02.439 --> 1:20:05.880 and instead Of taking, sheila's module HE takes sid six. 1:20:05.880 --> 1:20:09.559 Point seven and then he Just kicked sheila underneath the, 1:20:10.280 --> 1:20:12.639 you know, some, furniture, WHICH yeah i thought was very, 1:20:12.640 --> 1:20:17.000 disappointing because first, OF all i kind Of wanted sheila 1:20:17.040 --> 1:20:19.519 to have a chance to be born to the. Real, 1:20:19.560 --> 1:20:25.080 world yeah but also imagine Like the cringey comedy that 1:20:25.080 --> 1:20:27.040 could have resulted if we have like a stinger at 1:20:27.040 --> 1:20:30.439 the end where police are going into train and they're 1:20:30.479 --> 1:20:33.280 going Up against shila instead of a. Super, criminal oh 1:20:33.320 --> 1:20:33.760 that would be. 1:20:33.760 --> 1:20:35.640 FUNNY too i thought maybe you were, gonna, say like 1:20:35.720 --> 1:20:38.400 What if sheila, was created but instead of just becoming a, 1:20:38.439 --> 1:20:40.680 sex robot she's the one who has to hunt down 1:20:40.720 --> 1:20:51.880 sid six. Point, seven, yeah yeah. All, right anyway we 1:20:51.920 --> 1:20:55.160 move on to the nano. Robotics lab clyde shows off a, 1:20:55.240 --> 1:20:57.920 robot snake which you think is a real snake, at 1:20:57.920 --> 1:21:01.080 first like he shoves it In lynden, meyer's face but 1:21:01.120 --> 1:21:03.160 then he cuts it in half with some shears and 1:21:03.240 --> 1:21:06.160 reveals it is made of Blue goop, and then critically for, 1:21:06.240 --> 1:21:09.120 the plot we learn that if you cut part of, 1:21:09.160 --> 1:21:12.080 it off since it's made out, of silicon it can 1:21:12.160 --> 1:21:16.360 regenerate itself by absorbing glass it finds in. The environment 1:21:16.720 --> 1:21:19.719 so the snake like rebuilds its severed tail by reaching 1:21:19.760 --> 1:21:23.240 out these blue tendrils that suck up glass from. A beaker, 1:21:24.439 --> 1:21:27.719 and honestly this premise sets up several of the best 1:21:27.800 --> 1:21:30.720 moments in the Movie where sid will get injured and 1:21:30.760 --> 1:21:33.560 then later he'll start like sucking glass out of windows 1:21:33.600 --> 1:21:36.200 while he's got like the goop arm in the window 1:21:36.280 --> 1:21:40.200 and he's making this. Rage face or at one point 1:21:40.280 --> 1:21:44.280 he's literally like eating fistfuls of glass in the middle 1:21:44.280 --> 1:21:48.160 of a car chase in. The scene clyde, also, explains 1:21:48.600 --> 1:21:51.719 quote if you separate the character module from the, polymer 1:21:51.800 --> 1:21:52.760 matrix you get. 1:21:53.320 --> 1:21:53.639 Nano. 1:21:53.800 --> 1:21:58.000 Death yeah, so anyway they start growing the robot inside of, 1:21:58.040 --> 1:21:59.720 a pod which is a good. 1:21:59.760 --> 1:22:03.160 Set piece, OH yes i love all this stuff because then, 1:22:03.280 --> 1:22:09.400 practical effects it's this blue like it's it's, it's inorganic 1:22:09.640 --> 1:22:12.240 but it has this kind of organic nature. To it 1:22:12.240 --> 1:22:16.360 it's like this like weird blue alien egg that this 1:22:16.479 --> 1:22:20.160 being is. Growing inside and then when it finally opens 1:22:20.400 --> 1:22:23.920 and there's like. Blue goo, of course what rises up 1:22:23.960 --> 1:22:27.560 initially is just this kind of like neutral. Blue, humanoid 1:22:27.640 --> 1:22:29.880 oh has kind of like, A oh i, don't know 1:22:29.880 --> 1:22:32.479 almost like a crash test dummy kind of vibe, to 1:22:32.520 --> 1:22:35.439 it like it's not completely, finished yet to the point 1:22:35.479 --> 1:22:39.160 that our creep researcher here is, like, like oh it's. 1:22:39.200 --> 1:22:43.160 It's you i'm ready. To party but then it finishes. 1:22:43.800 --> 1:22:47.800 Its form it like everything smooths out digitally and it 1:22:47.840 --> 1:22:54.000 Becomes not Sheila but sid six, point seven naked, terminator style. 1:22:54.000 --> 1:22:56.320 Who Immediately kills clyde like it like. 1:22:56.400 --> 1:22:56.719 Chokes. 1:22:56.800 --> 1:22:59.320 Him yeah, the pod by, the way it looks like 1:22:59.320 --> 1:23:01.800 a cross between Between a venus fly trap and a. 1:23:01.840 --> 1:23:06.280 Pool float, and yeah the being is the freakiest looking 1:23:06.320 --> 1:23:08.160 thing in the movie Is when sid comes out not. 1:23:08.240 --> 1:23:11.120 Fully, finished yeah but that's why if you look through 1:23:11.120 --> 1:23:13.880 the credits for, this film you'll see somebody like credit 1:23:14.000 --> 1:23:17.400 with like, creature effects because it is essentially like it's 1:23:17.400 --> 1:23:19.439 somewhere blurring the line between creature. 1:23:19.439 --> 1:23:22.639 And, technology yeah and by, the way and, The Scene 1:23:22.720 --> 1:23:26.120 russell crowe is really stretching his, ham legs just goofing it. 1:23:26.160 --> 1:23:31.840 Up stupendously, You know clyde says He's, like sheila but 1:23:31.880 --> 1:23:35.920 It's Obviously russell crowe and He Instead russell crow, Says 1:23:36.000 --> 1:23:40.280 No i'm oedipus and then. Chokes him and then meanwhile 1:23:40.320 --> 1:23:43.880 The darre old character is watching seemingly in horror and 1:23:43.920 --> 1:23:46.400 then runs away. And hides but why is? He horrified 1:23:46.439 --> 1:23:47.080 didn't he do this? 1:23:47.160 --> 1:23:49.720 On, purpose yeah this is exactly what you wanted. To 1:23:49.800 --> 1:23:51.519 do what did you think was going to? 1:23:51.600 --> 1:23:54.599 Happen here so we get to See Naked russell crowe 1:23:54.640 --> 1:23:57.479 having fun feeling gravity for the. First time he like 1:23:57.560 --> 1:24:01.080 kind of, Shifts around, he's like. Ooh gravity he also 1:24:01.200 --> 1:24:04.080 picks up a random knife and starts doing naked tai 1:24:04.200 --> 1:24:07.720 chi with a knife in. His hand then he recreationally 1:24:07.760 --> 1:24:10.840 cuts off his own finger and then licks the blue goop, and, 1:24:10.880 --> 1:24:13.599 says huh that was a. Good year like it's like it's. 1:24:13.600 --> 1:24:16.439 A wine that's, the joke but you, know What It's 1:24:16.560 --> 1:24:19.200 russell krow kind of. Sells it even the bad jokes sort. Of. 1:24:19.280 --> 1:24:19.559 Land. 1:24:19.880 --> 1:24:23.320 Yeah oh and then also in, the scene we get 1:24:23.320 --> 1:24:25.680 A line i think it was obviously meant for. The 1:24:25.720 --> 1:24:28.080 trailer it's sort OF an i got to get me 1:24:28.160 --> 1:24:31.400 one of those Moments where sid looks directly into the camera, 1:24:31.560 --> 1:24:32.960 AND says I think i'm. 1:24:32.800 --> 1:24:35.679 Gonna like, it here and he does like. It here 1:24:35.760 --> 1:24:39.120 that's that's pretty much what happens for the next like 1:24:39.200 --> 1:24:39.880 forty minutes. 1:24:40.000 --> 1:24:42.120 Or SO so i have a question about. The plot 1:24:42.200 --> 1:24:45.160 maybe you knew something about This rob is there something 1:24:45.360 --> 1:24:48.479 it felt like something was missing in the subplot of 1:24:48.520 --> 1:24:52.240 the villains here they would explain why the computer company 1:24:52.320 --> 1:24:57.000 GUY wanted sid six point seven unleashed into. The world 1:24:57.560 --> 1:25:01.640 there are some scenes that kind of, imply conspiracy like motivated. 1:25:01.680 --> 1:25:04.960 By business there ARE other, i mean but only. Very 1:25:05.000 --> 1:25:07.720 vaguely there are other scenes that to me implied the 1:25:07.720 --> 1:25:11.640 computer guy is like a psychotic acolyte of the RELIGION 1:25:11.680 --> 1:25:14.800 of sid six. Point, seven LIKE am i remembering? Right 1:25:14.800 --> 1:25:17.479 that one time later he's shown in a motel room 1:25:17.520 --> 1:25:19.200 decorated Like A charles manson. 1:25:19.280 --> 1:25:19.559 Murder. 1:25:19.640 --> 1:25:23.719 Scene, Yeah yeah and it's not like a, crime scene 1:25:23.720 --> 1:25:27.200 it's like his own. Motel room and it implied just 1:25:27.280 --> 1:25:29.360 he just decorated it that way because he. Likes it 1:25:30.080 --> 1:25:33.680 like just major confusion on what is the motivation of 1:25:33.720 --> 1:25:37.240 the non virtual meet, human villains what was their goal 1:25:37.320 --> 1:25:37.880 and who's in? 1:25:37.960 --> 1:25:41.080 ON it, i mean it seems like his direct creator 1:25:41.120 --> 1:25:45.840 here just comes to worship. His creation but we don't 1:25:46.200 --> 1:25:48.920 really get enough details on how this comes, to pass, 1:25:49.120 --> 1:25:52.439 you know we're just sort of left to assume that's. 1:25:52.439 --> 1:25:55.200 The case this is an EXAMPLE where i probably NEED 1:25:55.320 --> 1:25:57.439 well i don't. NEED to i would probably get some 1:25:57.479 --> 1:26:00.679 ANSWERS if i read, the novelization oh for, the movie 1:26:00.680 --> 1:26:05.240 which Was By, terry bisson who has come up on 1:26:05.280 --> 1:26:07.839 the show before because we've had a couple of people 1:26:08.439 --> 1:26:13.200 right in about. His work he Won A hugo award 1:26:13.240 --> 1:26:15.519 And A nebula award for the Short story they're made out. 1:26:15.560 --> 1:26:20.120 Of meat, i'm assuming as is typical, with novelizations he 1:26:20.200 --> 1:26:22.559 probably had to fill in the gaps here and create 1:26:22.600 --> 1:26:25.880 some connective tissue for. These characters, but yeah back to, 1:26:25.920 --> 1:26:28.799 your point why is any of? This, happening like why 1:26:28.960 --> 1:26:33.400 really did you orchestrate the escape of? This being why 1:26:33.439 --> 1:26:37.800 did you help it print itself in physical forms so 1:26:37.840 --> 1:26:40.840 it can run on a rampage like. You clean you 1:26:40.880 --> 1:26:43.639 seem to like him and you're into what he's doing 1:26:43.720 --> 1:26:47.000 but also scared, by him but also scared. By, him 1:26:47.080 --> 1:26:51.600 yeah it's like it seems like we needed him to 1:26:51.600 --> 1:26:53.360 be killed by the creator here as well if he 1:26:53.400 --> 1:26:56.880 because it's not like he's he's Sort of frankenstein's here where, he's, 1:26:56.920 --> 1:26:59.240 Like ah i've gone too far and, runs away but 1:26:59.280 --> 1:27:00.360 then he continues to worship. 1:27:00.360 --> 1:27:03.439 HIS creations, i, Yeah anyway so at this point in, 1:27:03.479 --> 1:27:06.160 the movie the premise has. Been delivered, YOU know sid 1:27:06.240 --> 1:27:09.040 six point seven is unleashed in physical form upon, our 1:27:09.080 --> 1:27:12.320 world the world of nineteen. Ninety nine in the Words 1:27:12.320 --> 1:27:16.479 Of william, forsyth Quote somehow sid six point seven got 1:27:16.560 --> 1:27:20.479 himself out of the computer and at this point only 1:27:20.560 --> 1:27:23.640 one man can, stop him Because again barnes is the 1:27:23.640 --> 1:27:26.799 only prisoner who Ever beats sid IN the. Vr Training 1:27:26.920 --> 1:27:31.040 so barnes has granted conditional early release from prison so 1:27:31.080 --> 1:27:34.120 he can find And. Stop sid now at, this point 1:27:34.120 --> 1:27:36.920 what is a renegade cop who gets results always need a, 1:27:36.960 --> 1:27:39.920 New partner so he's getting paired Up With, madison carter the. 1:27:39.960 --> 1:27:43.560 Criminal psychologist so few scenes to. Talk about from the 1:27:43.600 --> 1:27:45.839 middle portion of, the movie a lot of chasing around 1:27:45.880 --> 1:27:49.000 an investigation in that there's sort of a detective Portion 1:27:49.640 --> 1:27:53.479 where Barnes and carter investigates some crime scenes WHERE like 1:27:53.520 --> 1:27:56.040 sid has done random murders and one of them is 1:27:56.080 --> 1:28:00.120 staged as a copycat Of The tate. Lobbianca murders but 1:28:00.240 --> 1:28:02.960 they end Up At darryl, lindenmeyer's house the guy Who 1:28:03.040 --> 1:28:06.839 programmed sid in a SCENE that i found, extremely funny 1:28:06.880 --> 1:28:09.559 because so they LEARN how sid six point seven. Was 1:28:09.560 --> 1:28:13.639 created they Go into lindenmeyer's computer and they're like looking 1:28:13.680 --> 1:28:16.920 at THE previous, sid models and these heads just start 1:28:16.960 --> 1:28:19.320 popping up on the. Computer screen and the first one 1:28:19.360 --> 1:28:22.280 we see Is a hitler head that's like A three 1:28:22.360 --> 1:28:25.439 d sort of polygon model, of it so it's got 1:28:25.479 --> 1:28:27.920 like a little, like mustache but it's a. Little polygon 1:28:28.479 --> 1:28:31.719 and then they're showing serial killers, and Stuff and, carter, 1:28:31.880 --> 1:28:33.160 says quote this is. 1:28:33.160 --> 1:28:34.000 Using some kind of. 1:28:34.040 --> 1:28:38.160 Genetic algorithms sid's too complex. To design lindenmeyer had to 1:28:38.200 --> 1:28:41.639 grow him up psychologically like a real person with multiple. 1:28:41.680 --> 1:28:45.400 Personality disorder the program learns like, a child but. Much 1:28:45.439 --> 1:28:48.200 faster it's like he put all these killers in sid's 1:28:48.240 --> 1:28:51.640 nursery and let him watch them cannibalize. Each other And then, 1:28:51.720 --> 1:28:55.080 barnes says and only the strong. Ones survive but what 1:28:55.120 --> 1:28:58.400 does that mean in this context the strongest serial Killers 1:28:58.439 --> 1:29:00.320 Or hitler's so. 1:29:00.320 --> 1:29:03.719 On, one level absolutely this is technobabble that doesn't really 1:29:03.760 --> 1:29:06.880 stand up to, close scrutiny but it also does kind 1:29:06.880 --> 1:29:11.400 of neatly forecast some of The topics we've been discussing 1:29:12.000 --> 1:29:15.679 in the past several YEARS about ai and about about 1:29:15.720 --> 1:29:20.400 training on content and how sometimes the content that these 1:29:20.400 --> 1:29:23.880 models train on are not the best models of human 1:29:23.920 --> 1:29:27.800 behavior or, human expression and so it's, you know, it's 1:29:28.160 --> 1:29:30.720 silly but it also rings a little bit true in. 1:29:31.040 --> 1:29:33.479 Some, ways yeah but this is, more like what if 1:29:33.520 --> 1:29:38.200 you limited the reinforcement, training exclusively the training data is 1:29:38.240 --> 1:29:42.040 only a pyramid of TWO hundred cgi serial killer Heads 1:29:42.160 --> 1:29:42.800 with hitler in. 1:29:42.840 --> 1:29:45.600 There, TOO well, i mean, in retrospect why would we? 1:29:45.600 --> 1:29:47.080 Do this but now we're kind, of like WELL that 1:29:47.160 --> 1:29:48.080 I guess i, could happen. 1:29:48.160 --> 1:29:48.240 You. 1:29:48.280 --> 1:29:53.240 Know yeah so also in, The scene barnes figures out 1:29:53.240 --> 1:29:56.799 that one of the heads in THERE inside sid belonged 1:29:56.800 --> 1:29:59.240 to the guy who murdered. His family there is a 1:29:59.280 --> 1:30:02.240 lot made, of, like oh that would be, extra bad, 1:30:02.280 --> 1:30:05.640 you know much Scarier Than ted Bundy. And hitler but 1:30:06.160 --> 1:30:09.400 much is also, discussed about like whether this personality is 1:30:09.520 --> 1:30:13.960 DOMINANT within sid. OR not i found that a not very. Fruitful. 1:30:14.000 --> 1:30:15.560 Subplot. Yeah same. 1:30:16.840 --> 1:30:19.559 The decor Of lynden MEYER'S apartment i thought was. Really 1:30:19.640 --> 1:30:23.040 funny it's like a Cross Between patrick bateman's apartment and 1:30:23.080 --> 1:30:25.439 the house In. The hunger so there's a lot Of 1:30:25.520 --> 1:30:29.040 Soulless wall street furniture and computers, and stuff but also 1:30:29.400 --> 1:30:33.360 a single purple rose in a glass. Bell jar now, 1:30:33.400 --> 1:30:35.800 after you let's talk about the, club, scene because as, 1:30:35.800 --> 1:30:37.519 we said every one of these movies has to have 1:30:37.560 --> 1:30:41.600 a techno dance. Club scene what would you So like 1:30:41.720 --> 1:30:44.800 sid six point seven goes to, a club he fights his. 1:30:44.880 --> 1:30:47.320 Way in how would you describe this? 1:30:47.479 --> 1:30:52.480 Club? Rob, OH well i mean it's just absolute cinematic 1:30:52.520 --> 1:30:56.400 portrayal of the nineties. Rave situation, you know, the lights, 1:30:57.840 --> 1:31:02.920 the outfits the Presence Of. Tracy lord everything is in, 1:31:02.960 --> 1:31:06.400 place here and we get that great scene where he's 1:31:06.720 --> 1:31:09.080 like strong arming his way to the front of the 1:31:09.120 --> 1:31:13.760 line to. Get in it's it's very like futuristic. And 1:31:13.880 --> 1:31:17.400 HIP but i do generally like the, music here. 1:31:17.800 --> 1:31:20.120 Good track there's, live music and they've got like A 1:31:20.160 --> 1:31:24.040 STAR trek dj station with these milky white orbs instead, 1:31:24.080 --> 1:31:26.599 of turntables so you can see them like doing record 1:31:26.640 --> 1:31:27.320 scratches with. 1:31:27.400 --> 1:31:31.400 The, orbs yeah infrared footage of everything's gone to so, many, 1:31:31.439 --> 1:31:32.439 screens yes. 1:31:32.640 --> 1:31:36.040 Screens everywhere there are people walking around with video cameras 1:31:36.080 --> 1:31:39.560 that are projecting a live feed with crazy color effects 1:31:39.640 --> 1:31:44.000 onto the huge screens on, the walls just cables dangling 1:31:44.080 --> 1:31:46.760 everywhere and like running to the helmets that are being 1:31:46.840 --> 1:31:49.880 warned by. The, DJs also you access this club through a, 1:31:49.880 --> 1:31:52.120 freight elevator so it's like a basement club you have 1:31:52.200 --> 1:31:56.680 to go down to through. The elevator ONE thing i thought, is, 1:31:56.680 --> 1:31:59.639 that oh, YOU know i went to a concert earlier, 1:31:59.680 --> 1:32:01.360 this week and, it's like this is kind of like 1:32:01.400 --> 1:32:03.639 going to a concert today because you see people holding 1:32:03.720 --> 1:32:07.000 up their devices recording the performers standing right in front. 1:32:07.000 --> 1:32:09.080 Of, them yeah that's a. Good point that's a. Good point, 1:32:09.439 --> 1:32:14.200 but yeah we'll. DO that i mean it only the 1:32:14.240 --> 1:32:17.040 world only makes sense if you're, viewing it experiencing it through, 1:32:17.200 --> 1:32:20.960 the digital through, the technology. You know but in, this, 1:32:21.000 --> 1:32:24.280 case yeah the Performer Is tracy lord's up there with 1:32:24.640 --> 1:32:27.720 what one or two DJs. On hand she's kind, of 1:32:27.760 --> 1:32:33.880 singing kind of, dancing around wearing this kind of like matrixy. 1:32:34.080 --> 1:32:38.400 Latex attire and then, income said and we get this 1:32:38.439 --> 1:32:42.160 one moment cinematography at. ITS finest i guess where, they're 1:32:42.160 --> 1:32:47.040 like what if we shot Sid Through tracy lord's legs, 1:32:47.080 --> 1:32:50.000 from behind like through her thighs from behind and that's. The, 1:32:50.080 --> 1:32:53.000 shot YEAH so i giggled. AT that i, was, like, 1:32:53.040 --> 1:32:54.599 okay yeah a little over. The. 1:32:54.600 --> 1:32:58.440 Top, yeah also the fashion in the scene, is chaotic, 1:32:58.880 --> 1:33:01.000 we get but we do get an early glimpse of 1:33:01.080 --> 1:33:03.559 a guy in a purple double breasted Suit that sid 1:33:03.600 --> 1:33:04.960 is going to steal and wear. 1:33:04.800 --> 1:33:05.200 For much of. 1:33:05.240 --> 1:33:08.240 The film, but again coming back to the kind of 1:33:08.280 --> 1:33:11.240 themes we talked, about earlier there's something kind of interesting 1:33:11.280 --> 1:33:14.360 here where in, this scene it becomes Apparent that sid 1:33:14.439 --> 1:33:17.200 loves that people are aiming cameras at him in the 1:33:17.240 --> 1:33:20.040 club and projecting him onto the, big screen and. He 1:33:20.200 --> 1:33:24.280 smiles he's like overwhelmed. WITH joy i think, Sincere joy 1:33:24.400 --> 1:33:26.840 like he's not making, a joke and, HE says i. 1:33:26.920 --> 1:33:29.400 Am beautiful and this is one of the themes of 1:33:29.400 --> 1:33:32.640 the MOVIE that i thought was actually kind of. Accidentally 1:33:32.680 --> 1:33:37.799 interesting there's something about the information environment in the setting 1:33:38.600 --> 1:33:42.519 that says there's. A desire there's like a link between 1:33:42.560 --> 1:33:45.600 the desire to be famous and the center of everybody's 1:33:45.600 --> 1:33:50.799 attention and sadism. Or PSYCHOPATHY like i haven't fully fleshed 1:33:50.800 --> 1:33:52.960 out exactly what, this means but it's like a latent 1:33:53.040 --> 1:33:56.360 assumption of the film that is not just the common 1:33:56.400 --> 1:33:59.800 assumption that there's something kind of tacky or shallow or 1:34:00.200 --> 1:34:03.759 guided about wanting to be the center of, everybody's attention 1:34:04.000 --> 1:34:06.639 or especially wanting to be the center of everybody's attention 1:34:06.760 --> 1:34:10.680 as mediated through technology like video And, the internet but 1:34:10.800 --> 1:34:14.240 actually goes a step farther and suggests the desire for 1:34:14.320 --> 1:34:17.760 attention like this is related to a kind, of, dominance 1:34:17.800 --> 1:34:21.759 strive a desire to have power over others and even 1:34:21.800 --> 1:34:25.360 inflict pain, On them and that hit home for. Me, 1:34:25.439 --> 1:34:28.840 SOMEHOW again i don't want TO suggest i think this 1:34:29.000 --> 1:34:32.040 was explicitly thought out in, the script but it feels 1:34:32.120 --> 1:34:35.519 like a potent theme the movie. Stumbles. Into here there's 1:34:35.560 --> 1:34:39.040 something about this obsession with like being on camera and 1:34:39.080 --> 1:34:41.920 having people far away all watching you at the same 1:34:41.960 --> 1:34:45.720 time that is like a kind of power and domination. 1:34:46.000 --> 1:34:49.240 And sadism, Yeah yeah and they do come back to 1:34:49.280 --> 1:34:50.080 it later on. 1:34:50.200 --> 1:34:52.639 As, well anyway in The scene sid gets a drink 1:34:52.680 --> 1:34:56.880 made for him By A johnny Cab and sid is like, 1:34:57.240 --> 1:35:00.160 to think you constitute one of. My ancestors and then 1:35:00.200 --> 1:35:00.920 in personally. 1:35:00.800 --> 1:35:02.760 That's one of a couple of moments in here though With, 1:35:02.880 --> 1:35:05.080 the ANDROIDS where i, was like they're kind of getting 1:35:05.120 --> 1:35:07.320 into some of the Territory That ridley scott would later 1:35:07.320 --> 1:35:11.000 get Into with david And The, alien prequels but with 1:35:11.200 --> 1:35:14.800 less nuance and and more just. Outright meanness. That's. 1:35:14.880 --> 1:35:18.439 Funny. Yeah uh he starts rampaging in, the club, of 1:35:18.479 --> 1:35:20.320 course and then this will be a type of scene. 1:35:20.320 --> 1:35:23.840 That recurs he takes, everybody hostage forces the camera to like. 1:35:23.920 --> 1:35:24.240 Film. 1:35:24.320 --> 1:35:26.639 Him uh and then in one. 1:35:26.520 --> 1:35:29.360 Funny Bit cracy lords, gets away though she does, run 1:35:29.400 --> 1:35:31.640 away the guy behind her, gets shot but she. 1:35:31.720 --> 1:35:36.040 Makes it and then he starts he starts making everybody 1:35:36.200 --> 1:35:39.760 record screams that he can play back and remix AT the. 1:35:39.840 --> 1:35:42.880 Dj station this scene is, really Something And russell crowe 1:35:42.920 --> 1:35:45.200 is just like roaring with. Improvisational. 1:35:45.320 --> 1:35:48.920 ENERGY yeah i mean it's a weird, mix though because on, 1:35:48.920 --> 1:35:51.800 one hand like a scene where someone terrorizes a bunch 1:35:51.840 --> 1:35:54.120 of people with, a, gun yes IT'S like i don't. 1:35:54.240 --> 1:35:56.720 Like it but on the, other hand so many other 1:35:56.760 --> 1:35:59.120 aspects of this sequence are so over. The top that 1:35:59.479 --> 1:36:02.240 and and the performance that the center of it is 1:36:02.240 --> 1:36:04.200 is so over the top you kind of like it. 1:36:04.240 --> 1:36:07.240 AS well i mentioned this earlier that one of THE 1:36:07.280 --> 1:36:11.759 ways i think this movie kind of really sits weird 1:36:12.479 --> 1:36:15.719 is a. TONAL mismatch i think this is actually True 1:36:16.080 --> 1:36:19.799 with barnes's backstory, as well the thing about like his family. 1:36:19.840 --> 1:36:24.080 Being murdered it's. A weird it's weird Because the barnes 1:36:24.120 --> 1:36:28.080 backstory is on one hand, like, hackneyed obvious overly familiar 1:36:28.120 --> 1:36:30.040 for this type, of character, you know. The copy he's 1:36:30.080 --> 1:36:32.760 taken it, too personal and at the same time it 1:36:32.840 --> 1:36:37.240 is excessively cruel and horrible for the context of this. 1:36:37.360 --> 1:36:39.280 Goofy MOVIE and i. 1:36:39.200 --> 1:36:42.240 Felt a similar way about a lot of, These scenes 1:36:42.280 --> 1:36:46.120 like the club scene is at once like goofy but 1:36:46.320 --> 1:36:51.080 also just a little. Too nasty it's, like both it's 1:36:51.120 --> 1:36:51.680 going off in. 1:36:51.760 --> 1:36:54.400 Both, directions, yeah YEAH so I think i think you're 1:36:54.479 --> 1:36:56.000 right there that the tone is. 1:36:56.040 --> 1:37:05.880 Off here, of course this all gets Interrupted when barnes, 1:37:05.920 --> 1:37:07.840 shows up and this leads to a shootout and a. 1:37:07.880 --> 1:37:09.800 Car chase i'm not going to narrate all the, action 1:37:09.920 --> 1:37:12.799 scenes but a lot of the rest of the movie follows. 1:37:12.840 --> 1:37:16.639 This format sid, goes somewhere he. Starts rampaging he wants 1:37:16.680 --> 1:37:19.960 to be. On camera he's, killing people, Taking hostages, barnes 1:37:20.040 --> 1:37:22.759 arrives there is a fight and, a chase and then sid, 1:37:22.760 --> 1:37:24.080 gets away and. 1:37:23.960 --> 1:37:26.839 Then they need to go, find him and they realize 1:37:26.840 --> 1:37:28.680 that he is going to go where the. Attention is 1:37:28.720 --> 1:37:31.519 he's going to go where the, media is and that's 1:37:31.680 --> 1:37:34.240 how we end up, following him, for instance to the to. 1:37:34.280 --> 1:37:36.720 The octagon, Oh, Boy okay, SO yeah i think we're 1:37:36.760 --> 1:37:38.400 near the end of our plot, recap here but we 1:37:38.479 --> 1:37:39.479 do have to talk ABOUT the. 1:37:39.560 --> 1:37:42.679 Ufc, scene YEAH so i. WAS expected. I, HAD again 1:37:42.720 --> 1:37:46.720 i hadn't seen virtuosity in, ITS entirety, I THINK but 1:37:46.920 --> 1:37:48.880 i was looking over the CAST and, i, noticed, Oh 1:37:48.960 --> 1:37:51.040 Well ken shamrocks, in this it looks like there's going 1:37:51.080 --> 1:37:54.000 to BE some. Ufc ACTION so i was prepared for 1:37:54.080 --> 1:37:58.240 some POTENTIALLY hammy ufc. Product INTEGRATION and i would have 1:37:58.280 --> 1:38:00.760 TO say i was a bit shocked by how negatively 1:38:00.840 --> 1:38:03.559 the FILM portrays MMA and. Mma, fandom. 1:38:04.160 --> 1:38:08.120 Yes virtuosity it DEPICTS the ufc as like a blood 1:38:08.200 --> 1:38:13.240 cult in which the audience are fanatical acolytes that chant 1:38:13.240 --> 1:38:16.559 in unison for death even as people are like murdered 1:38:16.640 --> 1:38:17.439 in the audience. 1:38:17.479 --> 1:38:20.320 Around, them yeah it's like they're a bunch, of bloodthirsty 1:38:20.360 --> 1:38:23.360 half naked savages who only pause in their chanting to 1:38:23.520 --> 1:38:26.080 violently attack or grope each other. Like that that's how 1:38:26.120 --> 1:38:28.800 the movie IS, presenting ufcee and even action in the 1:38:28.840 --> 1:38:32.680 octagon doesn't even resemble AN actual. Mma match it's like 1:38:32.720 --> 1:38:35.240 two different fights are. GOING on i think there's a ref, 1:38:35.240 --> 1:38:36.280 in there but it's just it's. 1:38:36.280 --> 1:38:39.479 Pure chaos it was only their ambitious image of what 1:38:39.520 --> 1:38:40.040 the future. 1:38:40.080 --> 1:38:45.559 Could, hold yeah And so sid shows up notices that 1:38:45.720 --> 1:38:48.680 like a pretty lady is on like the What the 1:38:48.720 --> 1:38:50.880 titan tron or whatever the heck the big screen. Is 1:38:50.920 --> 1:38:54.320 there he goes up and is creepy, towards her and 1:38:54.360 --> 1:38:57.800 then like pulls out, a gun does a backflip into, 1:38:57.840 --> 1:39:01.680 the octagon intentionally landing on his head, and back and 1:39:01.720 --> 1:39:05.040 then gets up and starts intimidating all the dudes in, 1:39:05.080 --> 1:39:08.520 the Octagon Including. KEN shamrock i was a little disappointed 1:39:08.560 --> 1:39:10.599 That The World's Most dangerous man didn't make a Move, 1:39:10.640 --> 1:39:11.280 on sid but. 1:39:11.640 --> 1:39:14.839 FAIR enough i don't know About Most dangerous. MAN'S status 1:39:15.360 --> 1:39:17.760 i Only Remember. Ken shameron wasn't he IN the wwf in? 1:39:17.840 --> 1:39:20.200 The nineties He, was, yeah okay THAT'S all. 1:39:20.240 --> 1:39:22.519 I remember he had some Matches, With vader so, it's 1:39:22.520 --> 1:39:24.040 like if he's gonna stand Up, to vader you think 1:39:24.080 --> 1:39:26.800 he'd stand Up. To sid but, you know, he's like, 1:39:26.600 --> 1:39:28.400 IT'S like i see you got blue blood coming out. 1:39:28.439 --> 1:39:30.160 Of you, Fair enough i'm, standing. 1:39:29.920 --> 1:39:32.920 Back smart, move ken don't be. 1:39:32.960 --> 1:39:35.760 A hero so basically the same thing is going to, happen, Here, 1:39:35.880 --> 1:39:39.519 Right yeah parker, shows up runs shoots, at him more, 1:39:39.520 --> 1:39:41.800 blue blood, more violence and then he. Gets. 1:39:41.840 --> 1:39:45.000 Away yeah, and NOW as, i mentioned OR maybe i 1:39:45.040 --> 1:39:47.160 didn't mention, this earlier there's a Whole thing i'm not gonna. 1:39:47.479 --> 1:39:49.760 Bother explaining in the middle of, The movie barnes gets 1:39:49.800 --> 1:39:52.880 framed for, a murder so he gets re arrested and 1:39:53.000 --> 1:39:56.040 all this. Stuff happens sid actually sets him free because 1:39:56.040 --> 1:39:58.400 he wants. To play it's Like the Joker. In batman, 1:39:58.520 --> 1:40:01.800 IT'S like i, need you you can. Delete. Me uh 1:40:02.040 --> 1:40:05.240 the climax of the film takes place in a skyscraper 1:40:05.360 --> 1:40:08.639 that is the home OF a tv station where there 1:40:08.840 --> 1:40:13.000 is a televised. Debate happening that's What draws sid there because, 1:40:13.000 --> 1:40:17.240 he's like he wants attention about a current political controversy. 1:40:17.280 --> 1:40:19.840 Over immigration this part kind of came out of nowhere 1:40:19.840 --> 1:40:23.360 and hit. Uncomfortably hard but so there's like a one 1:40:23.400 --> 1:40:26.479 GUY on tv saying like immigration breathes life into, the 1:40:26.520 --> 1:40:30.120 culture and another guy demagoguing against immigrants, and saying we 1:40:30.200 --> 1:40:33.000 got to close. The border And then sid shows up 1:40:33.040 --> 1:40:35.840 and does the. Same thing he, shoots people, takes hostages 1:40:35.920 --> 1:40:36.720 and takes over the. 1:40:36.760 --> 1:40:40.880 Live broadcast he takes, over it redubs it WHAT, Murder 1:40:40.960 --> 1:40:42.719 TV murder tv or DEATH. 1:40:42.760 --> 1:40:45.599 Tv, tv yeah and also has his own. 1:40:46.120 --> 1:40:49.960 Like logo yeah he brought a. 1:40:49.960 --> 1:40:51.559 Graphics package yeah he. 1:40:51.680 --> 1:40:54.360 REALLY did, I mean i guess he's a virtual reality 1:40:54.479 --> 1:40:56.720 thing so he can do that sort of sort. 1:40:56.720 --> 1:40:59.959 Of thing so as he torments and terrorizes the hostage, 1:41:00.240 --> 1:41:03.000 on air he's he's still he's like obsessed with checking out. 1:41:03.040 --> 1:41:05.719 His ratings, he's like look what What ratings? I'm getting, 1:41:05.720 --> 1:41:07.840 oh yeah the viewers. Love this they love the way 1:41:07.840 --> 1:41:11.800 you're screaming more tuning in. Every minute and once again 1:41:11.960 --> 1:41:17.880 this surprisingly interesting Theme linking sid's sadism and cruelty fundamentally 1:41:17.920 --> 1:41:22.400 with his desire for attention mediated, by technology and, in 1:41:22.400 --> 1:41:24.960 fact the good guys sort of defeat, him here at 1:41:25.040 --> 1:41:28.160 least in part distract him by cutting. The feed they 1:41:28.240 --> 1:41:31.200 like turn off the broadcast and limit his access to, 1:41:31.240 --> 1:41:35.439 his Audience and zid, hate this and this leads to 1:41:35.479 --> 1:41:38.719 a final chase and fight in the network Building between Barnes. 1:41:38.760 --> 1:41:41.800 And sid, of course as one could have guessed from, 1:41:42.240 --> 1:41:46.559 Developments earlier sid Has taken carter's, daughter hostage and they 1:41:46.600 --> 1:41:48.960 while they're, chasing around, they're like where's The girl and 1:41:49.000 --> 1:41:51.240 there's a there's a booby trap bomb and all that kind. 1:41:51.280 --> 1:41:53.479 Of STUFF but i, Don't, know rob are there any 1:41:53.479 --> 1:41:54.760 elements of the climax you want? To? 1:41:54.800 --> 1:41:57.280 HIT yeah i mean they get. It basically Parker and 1:41:57.320 --> 1:42:00.080 sid get, a big die hard sq battle on on 1:42:00.120 --> 1:42:02.960 top of, the Skyscraper and sid plummets through a whole 1:42:02.960 --> 1:42:05.640 bunch of glass panels and is impaled on like a 1:42:05.680 --> 1:42:09.559 million pieces, of glass And then parker goes down, to like, 1:42:09.640 --> 1:42:11.880 you know, check out see if. He's dead he's not. 1:42:12.000 --> 1:42:13.920 Dead yet we get a nice tight scene where he's 1:42:13.920 --> 1:42:16.479 trying To pull parker into the the sharp shards. Of 1:42:16.520 --> 1:42:20.200 glass he's regenerating off of, the glass, because remember eating 1:42:20.240 --> 1:42:22.799 glass and touching wounds to glass is how. He heals 1:42:23.160 --> 1:42:25.400 but there's a lot of repair work that needs to. 1:42:25.439 --> 1:42:28.599 Happen here and before he can, Do it parker reaches 1:42:28.640 --> 1:42:31.040 in through the back of his skull and rips out 1:42:31.040 --> 1:42:34.760 his little module and seemingly defeats. The villain but then, 1:42:34.800 --> 1:42:36.479 they're like but we don't know where the girl, is 1:42:36.520 --> 1:42:38.439 hidden and then we. GET it i thought this was a. 1:42:38.520 --> 1:42:40.880 Nice twist they like load him back up in the 1:42:40.960 --> 1:42:46.680 virtual they replay what, just happened but they let him 1:42:46.680 --> 1:42:49.040 get the upper hand so that he'll spill where the girl. 1:42:49.080 --> 1:42:51.479 Is, HIDING right i thought this was actually a pretty. 1:42:51.479 --> 1:42:53.559 Clever twist or where you See his, I'm, sorry yeah. 1:42:53.560 --> 1:42:56.559 That's right so what they need is Information. From sid 1:42:56.600 --> 1:42:59.120 so they. Killed him they defeated him, too early so 1:42:59.160 --> 1:43:01.479 they have to go back into the, virtual world trick 1:43:01.560 --> 1:43:04.360 him into thinking he's still in the real world so 1:43:04.400 --> 1:43:06.800 that he will spill, the beans, you know really give 1:43:06.840 --> 1:43:10.960 his villain monologue where he reveals, the Information which parker 1:43:11.080 --> 1:43:15.160 and Doctor and madison both that they work together to figure. 1:43:15.200 --> 1:43:17.720 That, out yeah so that. Was solid and of course 1:43:17.760 --> 1:43:20.880 we also get a Scene where sid realizes he's been 1:43:20.920 --> 1:43:23.240 caught and he jokes out, real hard and we get 1:43:23.240 --> 1:43:26.479 this scene with like multiple sid faces digital sid faces 1:43:26.560 --> 1:43:32.880 making angry expressions, Extreme, jobing, yes yeah but then the 1:43:32.880 --> 1:43:38.320 plot requires us to also disarm a bomb That The 1:43:38.360 --> 1:43:42.680 little girl's place of concealment is booby, Trapped with and 1:43:42.920 --> 1:43:45.559 this scene just feels very anticlimactic. To me, it's like 1:43:45.560 --> 1:43:49.040 we just had like a really awesome. Final fight we 1:43:49.160 --> 1:43:52.040 had this nice little twist on top of that, final 1:43:52.080 --> 1:43:55.360 fight but now we're just doing like a standard, you 1:43:55.400 --> 1:43:56.320 KNOW like tv show. 1:43:56.400 --> 1:43:59.439 Bomb, disartment yeah which wire? Is it and the final 1:43:59.479 --> 1:44:03.880 solution to the bomb Deactivation involves barnes using components from his. 1:44:03.920 --> 1:44:07.200 Bionic arm did you remember that he had a bionic 1:44:07.320 --> 1:44:07.680 arm at? 1:44:07.720 --> 1:44:10.519 THIS point i only thought of it when he ripped 1:44:10.520 --> 1:44:12.040 the module out of. THE head i, WAS like i 1:44:12.080 --> 1:44:14.720 guess because IT clearly i felt like we'd sprinkled this 1:44:14.800 --> 1:44:16.760 detail enough to where it would have to come back and, 1:44:16.760 --> 1:44:18.880 have MEANING and, i, THOUGHT well i guess that. Was 1:44:18.920 --> 1:44:22.800 it it was because he used the prosthetic arm to 1:44:22.840 --> 1:44:26.040 rip out, the module so it kind of surprised Me again, it's, like, 1:44:26.120 --> 1:44:28.519 oh okay this is this is how we're actually going 1:44:28.560 --> 1:44:29.080 to make use of. 1:44:29.120 --> 1:44:31.680 This detail he like pulls fiber optics out of his 1:44:31.760 --> 1:44:34.200 forearm and then like inserts them into the bomb to. 1:44:34.240 --> 1:44:35.519 Defuse it that's. 1:44:35.520 --> 1:44:35.800 Pretty. 1:44:35.840 --> 1:44:39.200 Good yeah also in the end when they, Defeat him 1:44:39.240 --> 1:44:43.719 BARNES destroys sid six point seven's Character, module bye throwing 1:44:43.760 --> 1:44:47.000 it off the top of. The, SKYSCRAPER man i FEEL 1:44:47.040 --> 1:44:49.960 like i would have done something a little. More, certain yeah, 1:44:50.280 --> 1:44:52.479 we do like follow up and we see it run 1:44:52.520 --> 1:44:53.519 over by, A truck so it's. 1:44:53.560 --> 1:44:53.920 All good. 1:44:54.000 --> 1:44:56.200 Sid's gone but wouldn't you would you want to make 1:44:56.240 --> 1:44:57.840 sure it. Was destroyed you don't even know where. 1:44:57.840 --> 1:45:00.840 It, lands yeah what it landed in the back of 1:45:00.920 --> 1:45:04.920 like a shipment of pillows, or SOMETHING or i. DON'T 1:45:04.920 --> 1:45:07.680 know i. Don't know there are so many ways that 1:45:07.760 --> 1:45:09.960 could have. Been saved or maybe it hits somebody in 1:45:09.960 --> 1:45:12.280 the head and gets embedded in. Their brain what, HAPPENS 1:45:12.320 --> 1:45:15.559 then i. Don't Know guess i'm your. Party man so 1:45:15.680 --> 1:45:17.679 that is virtuosity in all. 1:45:17.760 --> 1:45:20.840 ITS glory i feel like we still actually didn't hit 1:45:20.920 --> 1:45:25.519 everything that's potentially interesting. About it, BUT yes i will vouch. 1:45:25.560 --> 1:45:26.000 For it the. 1:45:26.520 --> 1:45:29.880 Viewing experience despite some, tonal mismatch some things that are 1:45:29.920 --> 1:45:32.280 just just go a little bit harder than they need 1:45:32.320 --> 1:45:34.120 to or a little bit nastier than they need, to 1:45:34.160 --> 1:45:39.040 be it is still a pretty, in fact, quite, funny 1:45:39.200 --> 1:45:39.960 nostalgic and. 1:45:40.080 --> 1:45:43.200 Enjoyable, experience yeah it Is a it's a movie that 1:45:43.240 --> 1:45:45.240 will make you laugh and it will make. You think 1:45:45.320 --> 1:45:49.200 there are various parts of this film that the do 1:45:49.520 --> 1:45:53.480 connect in interesting ways with where we are, now, technologically, 1:45:53.520 --> 1:45:54.440 socially politically. 1:45:54.479 --> 1:45:57.240 AND more i just want, to say one, last time 1:45:57.439 --> 1:46:01.280 hats Off to Russell. AND denzel I mean i. ADVOCATE 1:46:01.400 --> 1:46:04.600 this i think like a list actors should take the 1:46:04.640 --> 1:46:08.920 time to, do weird trashy little b movies and just 1:46:09.280 --> 1:46:11.559 go all, the way don't, hold back do give it. 1:46:11.640 --> 1:46:15.599 Your best absolutely, All right we're gonna go and close 1:46:15.600 --> 1:46:18.519 out this Episode Of Weird, house cinema but we would 1:46:18.560 --> 1:46:21.599 love to hear from everyone. Out there what do you Think? 1:46:21.600 --> 1:46:23.599 Of virtuosity did you see it back in the nineties 1:46:23.600 --> 1:46:25.080 when it, came out or do you at least remember. 1:46:25.080 --> 1:46:28.479 The trailers have you rediscovered it or watched it for 1:46:28.520 --> 1:46:31.920 the first time in. Recent years we would love to hear. 1:46:31.960 --> 1:46:34.519 Your thoughts as. A reminder Stuffed To Blow your mind 1:46:34.600 --> 1:46:37.120 is primarily a science and culture podcast with core Episodes 1:46:37.160 --> 1:46:39.439 on Tuesdays, and thursdays But on fridays we set aside 1:46:39.439 --> 1:46:41.519 most serious concerns to just talk about a weird Film 1:46:41.560 --> 1:46:44.559 On Weird. 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