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Speaker 1: Welcome to Papa's Perspective, another edition of the Giants Huddle Podcast.

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Speaker 1: It's brought to you by Bob's Discount Furniture. So when

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Speaker 1: the Giants schedule comes out, we take a look at

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Speaker 1: these games and then we say, all right, what was

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Speaker 1: a really cool game against this opponent? And with the

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Speaker 1: Giants playing in Arizona, thought atro role we got to

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Speaker 1: get them on for that twenty eleven incredible come from

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Speaker 1: behind thirty one twenty seven win. You had an interception

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Speaker 1: in the ballgame that came early in the fourth quarter.

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Speaker 1: What was it like for you going back with the

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Speaker 1: Giants to go play the team that drafted you in

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Speaker 1: their building?

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Speaker 2: You know, for me, it was it was definitely a bittersweet.

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Speaker 3: You know, it was a place where I felt like

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Speaker 3: we built the championship culture there. When I first got there,

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Speaker 3: we were not a good team whatsoever. For everyone can

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Speaker 3: test that. You know, we ended up building up our

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Speaker 3: team going to a Super Bowl nearly three years later,

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Speaker 3: and you know, with that and for that, I'm forever grateful.

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Speaker 3: You know, I think the chemistry that we built there,

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Speaker 3: the guys, the camaraderie, you know, I had a great time.

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Speaker 3: They're coming from the bottom, getting it from the mud,

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Speaker 3: you know, as I like to call it. So going there,

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Speaker 3: you know, I definitely had a chip on my shoulder

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Speaker 3: for a couple of different reasons, and I just wanted

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Speaker 3: to go out there and make a statement. Although I

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Speaker 3: knew that they knew who I was as a player,

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Speaker 3: I still wanted to go out there and sell it

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Speaker 3: and stole and solidified even more.

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Speaker 4: And you did.

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Speaker 1: You had a big game for the Giants. You had

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Speaker 1: an interception early in the fourth quarter. How sweet was

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Speaker 1: it to get the pick? And more importantly, Larry Fitzgerald

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Speaker 1: was the target on the place. So Fits is as

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Speaker 1: good as it gets. You practiced against them?

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Speaker 4: What was that like for you?

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Speaker 2: You know, I love every bit of it.

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Speaker 3: You know, Fits and I have had battles all the

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Speaker 3: way back from college, and you know, those battles continued

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Speaker 3: once I joined the Arizona Cardinals. A great personal frame,

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Speaker 3: if not one of the hardest workers I've ever seen

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Speaker 2: And I think his resume speaks for itself.

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Speaker 3: You know, his hard work and dedicated to the game

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Speaker 3: has built the resume that he has. Out Standing guy.

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Speaker 3: Loved to watch him play, love to compete against him.

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Speaker 3: So me being able to get that interception in that

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Speaker 3: time and that point of matter of the game was

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Speaker 3: clearly me just knowing who's on that end is Larry Fitzgerald.

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Speaker 3: They always consider him a mixed match, you know, no

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Speaker 3: matter who he's going up against one on one situation.

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Speaker 3: They figured if they throw the jump ball nine times

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Speaker 3: out of ten or ten times out of ten, he's

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Speaker 3: You know, I can agree to that, but it wasn't

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Speaker 3: the case that time because I had to jump on

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Speaker 3: When they snapped the ball, I was going there. You know,

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Speaker 3: they were gonna have to throw it to the guy

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Speaker 3: beat me to the other side, but I was going

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Speaker 3: there to Larry Fitzgerald's side and just go on my

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Speaker 2: I kind of had enough idea that the ball was

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Speaker 2: going to go ahead. It was just up to me

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Speaker 2: to come down with it. And I did.

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Speaker 3: I think I surprised him. Thinks surprise the quarterback. I

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Speaker 3: know I surprised Corey Webster. As we call outed as well.

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Speaker 3: But when I caught the you know, when I caught

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Speaker 3: the ball, my emotions are flying high. But I did

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Speaker 3: have to hit it because my head hit the ground

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Speaker 3: pretty good. When when I when I when I did

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Speaker 3: catch the ball, and you know, your emotions are flying high.

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Speaker 2: But when you sitting down here thinking about it, like

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Speaker 2: you know, damn not hurt.

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Speaker 1: Late in the game, they're trying to come back. Cob

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Speaker 1: throws it to heap third and eleven. You make sure

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Speaker 1: hold him on fourth down.

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Speaker 4: What were your keys on that play?

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Speaker 3: My keys on that place, just knowing and down in distance,

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Speaker 3: knowing it out of distance and knowing the guy like

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Speaker 3: he you know, he's he's a big body.

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Speaker 2: You know, he's a shorthanded tailand can make every catch.

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Speaker 2: My job was us to play the down in the

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Speaker 3: Now granted, you know at that point in time, I'm

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Speaker 2: You know, he's a two fifty two to sixty guy.

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Speaker 2: Just because he catches it at nine doesn't.

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Speaker 3: Even going to keep him at nine. So so you know,

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Speaker 3: that's what a squass of the weight left. They gotta

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Speaker 2: But being able to get him down and hold him

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Speaker 2: to nine yards, you know, at that point in time,

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Speaker 2: my job is done.

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Speaker 1: You know, this was the first time that the Giants

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Speaker 1: were playing in that building since they won Super Bowl

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Speaker 1: forty two, so there was a lot of positive energy

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Speaker 1: and a lot of hype and Eli was fantastic leading

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Speaker 1: the fourth quarter comeback. What was it like to be

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Speaker 1: and then eventually throwing the game winning touchdown pass uh

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Speaker 3: You know, watching Eli man for me has always been

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Speaker 3: a great thing that I enjoy and I've taken pleasure

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Speaker 3: and whether it's good, whether it's bad. You know, he's

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Speaker 3: a guy that's gonna always come and bringing it, always

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Speaker 3: gonna wear his shield. But to have another fourth quarter comeback,

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Speaker 3: which we've known that he's done so many times in

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Speaker 3: his you know, a great career.

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Speaker 2: It put it put the the citiling on the on

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Speaker 2: the cake for me and.

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Speaker 3: For me, you know, I think I always say this,

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Speaker 3: you know, offense is gonna sell tickets.

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Speaker 2: Defense is what's gonna win the game. And I'm a

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Speaker 2: firm believer, man.

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Speaker 3: I think defense having a stand that we did in

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Speaker 3: order to give Eli la ball back to work his magic.

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Speaker 3: I think it just works hand in hand and then

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Speaker 3: hakem to those big hands and making a great graph.

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Speaker 3: And you know, he's a guy that I think his

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Speaker 3: career could have been exceptional. You know why it didn't happen,

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Speaker 3: you know, I don't have the answer to that. But

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Speaker 3: he's a guy that's just at any given moment, he

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Speaker 3: can literally tick over a game, you know, and it

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Speaker 3: almost seems like he's so covered it he's blanketed, but

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Speaker 3: he always finds a way that that ball just like

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Speaker 3: it's like gluey big hands, it just sticks to his hands.

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Speaker 2: And just watching those guys and seeing you know, it's

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Speaker 2: just it's it's a work of art, it really is.

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Speaker 1: I want to I want to talk a little bit

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Speaker 1: about you know, that's that game. Victor Cruz makes a

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Speaker 1: play late in the game and he gives himself up.

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Speaker 1: The Cardinals wanted it to be a fumble. Victor's starting

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Speaker 1: to emerge as a player. For you guys, You're practicing

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Speaker 1: of what you guys did offensively because you had to

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Speaker 1: practice against him every day.

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Speaker 2: Man, listen, Victor was he was special.

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Speaker 3: You know, you saw clamps and pieces of it in

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Speaker 3: our very first training camp his first training camp with

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Speaker 2: And You're going up against the guy And the first

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Speaker 2: thing I asked was he was undrafted? You know, I wasn't.

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Speaker 3: I wasn't really sure, but I'm looking at him and

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Speaker 3: I'm like, this guy's undrafted. But he made a mark

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Speaker 3: early and obviously having a breakout preseason game against the Jets.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I've never seen anything like it in my life.

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Speaker 2: To this day.

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Speaker 3: We kind of put him on the shelf for that year.

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Speaker 3: I think that was a brilliant move by old man TC.

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Speaker 3: And the next year, you know, he just came into

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Speaker 3: his own. He would like we would literally work each

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Speaker 3: other to the bomb, Like I never had such great

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Speaker 2: Because when I was at you and I had.

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Speaker 3: Some amazing receivers and gave me some awesome work and

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Speaker 3: row for Parish and Andre Johnson. But on the professional level,

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Speaker 3: the it can either take you over top or he

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Speaker 2: So to have that balance for me it was great.

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Speaker 2: It was something that I needed.

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Speaker 3: And being a slot corner and being a slot safety,

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Speaker 3: he gave me the best of the best work. I mean,

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Speaker 3: it was so many times that he gave me the

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Speaker 3: business like it wasn't even funny, but it made me

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Speaker 2: Like the iron shoppens, I'm I'm a firm believer in that.

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Speaker 1: That Arizona game kind of was a microcosm of the

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Speaker 1: way things would kind of go during the season. When

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Speaker 1: you walked off the field that day, I know you're

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Speaker 1: happy to get a win. It's early in the season,

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Speaker 1: but did you say to yourself, Man, if we could

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Speaker 1: stay healthy, we got the makings of a team that

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Speaker 4: You had been the one already. What was the feeling

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Speaker 4: even that building.

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Speaker 3: Truth be told, A feeling for me leaving that building

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Speaker 3: was we got that W you know, and I can't

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Speaker 2: We got that W and and that was the feeling

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Speaker 2: for me. It was more of a of a selfish feeling.

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Speaker 3: It was more of something that was more about me,

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Speaker 3: and not saying that the game was more about me,

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Speaker 3: But at the end of the day, that moment and

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Speaker 3: getting that win was about me.

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Speaker 2: It was about me.

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Speaker 3: Versus the Arizona Cardinal as an organization. I loved it

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Speaker 3: as a team win. Obviously, I'm a team first guy.

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Speaker 3: I think anyone who knows me knows that. But for

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Speaker 3: that split second, like it was about me when I

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Speaker 3: got the interception, you know, I ran over to the

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Speaker 3: to put the ceiling on it, like, let you know,

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Speaker 3: you should never let me walk out of this building.

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Speaker 3: Whether it was a business matter what, I don't care

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Speaker 3: what the situation is. Like, you knew who a I

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Speaker 3: was and what I brought to the organization, So for

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Speaker 3: me it became personal. But did I think about Super Bowl?

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Speaker 2: Absolutely not.

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Speaker 3: I didn't.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't a thought. It wasn't a thought in my

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Speaker 2: was literally the first week of playoffs.

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Speaker 3: That's when it became a thought like that's when I

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Speaker 3: thought about, Okay, super Bowl contentious because I saw how

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Speaker 3: we clicked against the Jets, I saw how we clicked

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Speaker 2: Like we're jelling, Like we're on the right path.

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Speaker 3: Like I felt this before the same situation, like I

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Speaker 3: felt this before nine to seventeen.

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Speaker 2: Like I've been here, and unfortunately that side, you know,

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Speaker 2: I wasn't on the losing end. Thank god it wasn't

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Speaker 3: Around, because y'all probably would have had to put an

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Speaker 2: I lost twice.

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Speaker 1: Leadership join a team that has guys that have won

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Speaker 1: How hard was that for you when you're coming into

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Speaker 3: I think it's too hard to pretend to be someone else,

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Speaker 3: I was being the leader that I saw guys that

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Speaker 2: And for me, that was that's what it was about.

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Speaker 3: Like I knew that it was now or never for us,

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Speaker 2: I knew that it could have been a dud for us.

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Speaker 3: And we were too good of a team to not

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Speaker 4: Why did you and coach Coughlin click. His respect level

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Speaker 4: When did it click for you and him?

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Speaker 3: You know, I think it clicked after having a conversation

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Speaker 2: And I don't think we started off on the best

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Speaker 2: I just wasn't used to a certain type of a protocol,

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Speaker 3: I came from Miami, where everything was about swagger for us,

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Speaker 3: I felt like when I came here, he wanted Andrell

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Speaker 3: It took some growing up on my behalf to really

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Speaker 3: We looked the same, we play the same, you feel

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Speaker 2: To me, that's not really something that I firmly believe in.

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Speaker 2: So I had to buy in, you know.

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Speaker 3: And with me buying in, I think he kind of

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Speaker 2: I was going to give it everything I had every

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Speaker 3: I only missed I think two practices in my entire

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Speaker 2: Other than that, I was on the field. It didn't

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Speaker 3: I was on the field, And I think something that's

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Speaker 3: He also knew that when things were said, things were

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Speaker 3: I wasn't a selfish player. And you know, it's just

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Speaker 3: something that we bought into. You know, he became not

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Speaker 1: Well Andrell, forever, you and the Cardinals are linked as

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Speaker 1: part of Giants' history and your career. It was a

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Speaker 1: fun time in twenty eleven. I know that game, you know,

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Speaker 1: for the non championship games and the big games. I

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Speaker 1: to your heart. Thank you so much for sharing some

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Speaker 2: Absolutely my pleasure man, that's what happened.

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Speaker 4: Number twenty six atreill role.

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Speaker 1: Yes, Giants fans, there was another stud that wore twenty

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Speaker 1: six before Saquon. His name is Antrell Roll Andrell Roll

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Speaker 1: joining us on Papa's Perspective edition of The Giants Subtle Podcast,

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