WEBVTT - Bengals Booth Podcast: Luck Be A Lady 0:00:03.520 --> 0:00:06.319 I get everybody on Dan Horde and thanks for downloading 0:00:06.360 --> 0:00:13.840 The Bengals Booth podcast. The Luck Be a Lady. Tonight addition, 0:00:14.240 --> 0:00:16.720 as the Bengals head to Las Vegas and hope to 0:00:16.800 --> 0:00:19.360 hit the jackpot as they face the five and four 0:00:19.520 --> 0:00:22.520 Raiders coming up, I'll preview the game with one of 0:00:22.520 --> 0:00:24.920 the guys who will be in the booth for CBS 0:00:25.000 --> 0:00:29.520 on Sunday, Charles Davis. Among other things, he'll explain why 0:00:29.560 --> 0:00:32.640 his twenty three year old son was so excited to 0:00:32.760 --> 0:00:35.360 hear that his dad is doing a Bengals game this weekend. 0:00:35.920 --> 0:00:39.520 My one on one player interview is with punter Kevin Hubert, 0:00:39.560 --> 0:00:42.600 who will reach a milestone on Sunday that only two 0:00:42.640 --> 0:00:46.560 other players have reached in team history. Dave Lapham joins 0:00:46.600 --> 0:00:50.720 me to discuss the latest Bengals news, including why Hakimadnagi 0:00:50.920 --> 0:00:54.000 is starting in place of Jackson Carmen at right guard, 0:00:54.720 --> 0:00:57.440 and finally, it's our no the faux segment as we 0:00:57.520 --> 0:01:00.480 get the scoop on the Raiders from Jesse Eric, who 0:01:00.560 --> 0:01:04.679 covers the team for ksn VTV in Las Vegas. The 0:01:04.720 --> 0:01:08.320 Bengals Booth Podcast is presented by Ultimate Bengals, The Free 0:01:08.319 --> 0:01:12.160 to play Next Level Fantasy Football game downloaded now from 0:01:12.200 --> 0:01:15.000 the App Store and Google Play. And here's a quick 0:01:15.040 --> 0:01:17.600 reminder that you can have the latest edition of this 0:01:17.640 --> 0:01:21.160 podcast delivered right to your phone, tablet, or computer by 0:01:21.240 --> 0:01:25.360 subscribing wherever you get your podcasts. It's the greatest thing 0:01:25.480 --> 0:01:30.000 since the tradition of radio announcers getting in trouble for 0:01:30.120 --> 0:01:34.320 criticizing officials. In nineteen eighty eight, Marty Brenneman and Joe 0:01:34.440 --> 0:01:38.800 Nuxall were summoned to Commissioner Peter Uberot's office for criticizing 0:01:38.959 --> 0:01:43.279 umpire Dave Polone. In two thousand and three, my color 0:01:43.360 --> 0:01:47.000 commentator on UC basketball games, the late grade Chuck Mayshock, 0:01:47.400 --> 0:01:51.120 got ejected from an NCAA tournament game for yelling at 0:01:51.160 --> 0:01:54.200 one of the refs. It never happened again in the 0:01:54.240 --> 0:01:58.200 final four hundred forty six games of Chuck's broadcasting career. 0:01:58.720 --> 0:02:02.320 And this week, the Texas Tech football announcers have been 0:02:02.320 --> 0:02:06.360 suspended from Saturday's game against Oklahoma State for ripping the 0:02:06.400 --> 0:02:10.399 officials last week in a win over Iowa State. Did 0:02:10.440 --> 0:02:15.200 Brian Jensen and his analyst John Harris go too far? Yeah? Probably, 0:02:15.400 --> 0:02:17.880 and I'm sure they regret it, but let me add this, 0:02:18.520 --> 0:02:22.359 their call of Texas Techs sixty two yard walk off 0:02:22.400 --> 0:02:27.240 field goal to win that game was fantastic. Now let's 0:02:27.280 --> 0:02:29.800 get to my guests, beginning with one of the top 0:02:29.880 --> 0:02:34.000 TV analysts in the NFL, Charles Davis, will be in 0:02:34.000 --> 0:02:37.280 the booth with Ian Eagle this Sunday for CBS and Charles. 0:02:37.280 --> 0:02:41.080 You guys had the Browns Patriots game last week. Cleveland 0:02:41.120 --> 0:02:43.639 lost by thirty eight. One week after a great showing 0:02:43.680 --> 0:02:47.280 against the Bengals. The Ravens looked lousy last week the 0:02:47.400 --> 0:02:51.040 Steelers tied the winless Lions. Can you explain the AFC 0:02:51.240 --> 0:02:54.320 North to us Dan? I can't explain the FC North. 0:02:54.360 --> 0:02:57.960 I can't explain the AFC South. I can't explain the NFL. 0:02:58.800 --> 0:03:00.880 You know, it's funny because as I was watching the 0:03:00.960 --> 0:03:03.919 Raiders get jumped on by Kansas City on Sunday night 0:03:04.520 --> 0:03:07.120 and didn't expect that at all. I expected the Raiders 0:03:07.120 --> 0:03:08.680 to get off the deck a little bit because we 0:03:08.720 --> 0:03:11.600 all know that the troubles they've been through. But at 0:03:11.600 --> 0:03:13.600 the same time, here comes Kansas City a chance to 0:03:13.680 --> 0:03:17.040 really make a move a home game. All of that 0:03:17.200 --> 0:03:19.720 in Kansas City, which had been struggling. They got right 0:03:19.760 --> 0:03:23.560 in that game. And I read something recently and it 0:03:23.600 --> 0:03:27.440 was so aproposed. The AFC West has let Kansas City 0:03:27.440 --> 0:03:29.600 off the hook. You know, I feel like Dennis Green 0:03:29.720 --> 0:03:32.720 is being channeled again, right. They let them off the 0:03:32.760 --> 0:03:34.840 hook because they had them where they wanted them, and 0:03:34.880 --> 0:03:37.400 now Kansas City's back in control. In the AFC North, 0:03:37.920 --> 0:03:40.320 every time there's a chance for someone to really take 0:03:40.360 --> 0:03:45.320 control or to make a move, doesn't really happen that way. 0:03:45.440 --> 0:03:48.720 I guess my analogy is every time one of these 0:03:48.760 --> 0:03:51.440 teams goes up the ladder, someone hooks an ankle and 0:03:51.480 --> 0:03:53.800 pulls them back down to the pack. So I think 0:03:53.880 --> 0:03:56.120 that's where we are right now with the entire NFL, 0:03:56.400 --> 0:03:58.960 because every time we think someone has got it figured out, 0:03:59.400 --> 0:04:01.280 I mean, who who wasn't a win in their jumped 0:04:01.280 --> 0:04:05.360 the Arizona Carolina. I mean, I mean, just you just 0:04:05.400 --> 0:04:07.800 don't know how it's gonna go. Yeah. I think the 0:04:07.840 --> 0:04:10.440 Bengals had the greatest bye week in history last week 0:04:10.440 --> 0:04:13.240 with the way things went in the AFC North. We're 0:04:13.320 --> 0:04:15.840 visiting with Charles Davis. This will be the first Bengals 0:04:15.880 --> 0:04:17.880 game that you and I and will do this year 0:04:18.160 --> 0:04:22.680 What are you looking forward to seeing on the Cincinnati team. Well, 0:04:22.720 --> 0:04:25.200 you know, let's get away from all the things. We're 0:04:25.200 --> 0:04:27.520 looking to see them get better at doing and after 0:04:27.560 --> 0:04:29.560 this two game losing streak, let's just talk about the 0:04:29.600 --> 0:04:33.400 Bengals overall. Where they are a team that people want 0:04:33.440 --> 0:04:37.560 to watch play. You want to watch Joe Burrow at quarterback. 0:04:37.760 --> 0:04:41.280 You want to see Jamar Chase, te Higgins, Tyler Boyd, 0:04:42.040 --> 0:04:45.200 cj Uzama. Am I getting there? Am I close to that? 0:04:45.320 --> 0:04:50.520 I want to get close? Thank you, Zama, cj you Zomba. 0:04:50.720 --> 0:04:53.159 How's that all right? See, that's why I come to you. 0:04:53.160 --> 0:04:55.640 I come to you for the education. So you want 0:04:55.640 --> 0:04:58.200 to see them play? I mean you enjoyed that. You 0:04:58.279 --> 0:05:02.520 enjoy seeing the fireworks. Look, I'm tired of watching the highlights. 0:05:02.720 --> 0:05:04.840 I want to see the real thing. And now I'm 0:05:04.880 --> 0:05:08.000 going to get a chance to do that. Defensively, you know, 0:05:08.080 --> 0:05:10.320 I want to see Jesse Bates get back in form. 0:05:10.400 --> 0:05:12.360 I love the way that he's a ballhawk. I want 0:05:12.360 --> 0:05:13.880 to see him get people on the ground in the 0:05:13.960 --> 0:05:15.919 run game. I want to see all of those things 0:05:15.920 --> 0:05:19.560 come together. This is a fun team to watch. This 0:05:19.640 --> 0:05:21.880 is a team that now you talk about it. I'll 0:05:21.880 --> 0:05:24.880 put to you this way. Dan, my son is twenty three, 0:05:25.120 --> 0:05:26.960 and when I told him I had this game first thing, 0:05:27.000 --> 0:05:28.800 he said, oh wow, that'd be cool. You get to 0:05:28.800 --> 0:05:31.719 see the Bengals. How often have you heard that in 0:05:31.720 --> 0:05:34.400 the last ten years? You really have it that much 0:05:34.440 --> 0:05:37.159 because you got used to a certain way. We saw 0:05:37.200 --> 0:05:41.040 it during the Andy Dalton aj Green competing for division 0:05:41.040 --> 0:05:43.640 crowns during that time frame, but the last few years 0:05:43.640 --> 0:05:46.320 we haven't had it. There's a certain excitement about the 0:05:46.360 --> 0:05:49.719 Bengals and what they bring to the table. So I'm 0:05:50.000 --> 0:05:52.680 you know, I know myself, I and Evan Washburn and 0:05:52.720 --> 0:05:54.880 our crew, we're pretty excited about a chance to see 0:05:54.880 --> 0:05:58.640 them live. Tell your son, we said, thanks, let's talk 0:05:58.680 --> 0:06:02.280 about the Bengals Widress Core a little bit more closely. 0:06:02.800 --> 0:06:06.880 What are your observations about Jamar t and Tyler so far? 0:06:07.480 --> 0:06:10.039 I just think that they work together so well because 0:06:10.560 --> 0:06:13.200 we always talk about roles, but I do think that 0:06:13.279 --> 0:06:16.440 all of them fill different roles in different ways and 0:06:16.480 --> 0:06:19.760 can do it, you know, with multiplicity, all right, you 0:06:19.800 --> 0:06:22.520 can't just say this guy does this, this guy does that, 0:06:22.560 --> 0:06:24.640 and this guy does that, and that's all they do. 0:06:25.000 --> 0:06:27.480 They kind of do it all but some of them, 0:06:27.520 --> 0:06:29.520 but you got to accentuate what their strengths are. With 0:06:29.720 --> 0:06:32.920 Jamar Chase, the explosiveness is off the charts. We know 0:06:33.040 --> 0:06:36.240 that ball is in his hand. If you count to 0:06:36.400 --> 0:06:39.479 three and he's not on the ground, there's a good 0:06:39.560 --> 0:06:42.839 chance he's making a huge play for you downfield, all right. 0:06:43.120 --> 0:06:47.279 With t Higgins, the strength, the ability to shed people 0:06:47.560 --> 0:06:52.200 after a catch, run through contact, that's another big, big 0:06:52.240 --> 0:06:55.520 thing that you're looking for. And Tyler Boyd, it's funny 0:06:55.560 --> 0:06:57.239 as a guy that I work with, we've been watching 0:06:57.279 --> 0:06:59.520 swapping some some film, look at each other and he's like, 0:07:00.040 --> 0:07:04.440 it just me or is he extremely underrated? Still? And 0:07:04.480 --> 0:07:08.040 I love how he said still because we've recognized he's 0:07:08.080 --> 0:07:10.640 a very good player for a long time now. But 0:07:10.760 --> 0:07:13.560 because the Bengals didn't have a record where we talked 0:07:13.600 --> 0:07:16.920 about them every week in the national scene, he didn't 0:07:16.960 --> 0:07:19.640 get recognized for what he does. But put him in 0:07:19.680 --> 0:07:22.440 the slot and figure out how you're going to cover him. 0:07:22.560 --> 0:07:26.000 Very nifty in what he does, excellent hands, body control 0:07:26.000 --> 0:07:28.760 of the whole deal. Now take all of that and 0:07:28.800 --> 0:07:31.600 put it all together. If you want to run certain 0:07:31.680 --> 0:07:35.080 things as Zach Taylor and Brian Callahan do on offense. 0:07:35.400 --> 0:07:37.600 You can mix and match with these guys. They don't 0:07:37.600 --> 0:07:39.880 have to stay in one spot in order for you 0:07:39.920 --> 0:07:42.040 to make plays. Man, I'm watching tape and there's Jamar 0:07:42.120 --> 0:07:45.360 Chase back at tailback. So we're gonna see a lot 0:07:45.400 --> 0:07:47.600 of different things out of him and continue to do so. 0:07:48.200 --> 0:07:51.320 Find ways to get them the football. What's the old expression, Dan, 0:07:51.840 --> 0:07:55.679 You don't always just call plays. You you call things 0:07:55.680 --> 0:07:58.440 for people. There's certain things you have in mind that 0:07:58.520 --> 0:08:01.559 you want to accomplish. Make sure you get those plays called. 0:08:01.600 --> 0:08:04.240 And I know the Bengals do that well, Charles, Let's 0:08:04.240 --> 0:08:06.880 talk a little bit about the Bengals defense. Through five weeks. 0:08:06.880 --> 0:08:09.160 It was great, fifth in the NFL and fewest points 0:08:09.160 --> 0:08:12.160 alot allowed. The last couple of games, they've given up 0:08:12.200 --> 0:08:15.520 a bunch. What must the defense do against a very 0:08:15.520 --> 0:08:18.760 good Raiders offense this week? Well, it's funny because the 0:08:18.920 --> 0:08:22.360 Raider's identity, what they wanted to be their identities starting 0:08:22.440 --> 0:08:25.840 the season was a really hard running football team who 0:08:25.880 --> 0:08:28.920 beat you over the top off of play action, who 0:08:29.080 --> 0:08:32.520 established that physicality at the line of scrimmage. That's why 0:08:32.520 --> 0:08:35.400 they drafted Alex Leatherwood in the first round out of Alabama. 0:08:35.440 --> 0:08:37.360 They thought he'd be a plug and play right tackle 0:08:37.440 --> 0:08:40.320 for them and beat you up. Hasn't worked out that well, 0:08:40.360 --> 0:08:42.880 so he's moved inside to guard and Brandon Parker's plan 0:08:43.040 --> 0:08:45.240 right tackle, and they run the ball a lot less 0:08:45.280 --> 0:08:47.600 than I think that the Raiders wanted to do going 0:08:47.600 --> 0:08:49.720 into the season. And it's not just because of the 0:08:49.720 --> 0:08:51.920 shift that had coached either. They weren't running it well 0:08:52.000 --> 0:08:55.720 before John Gruden lost his job. So now you've got 0:08:55.760 --> 0:08:59.800 Derek Carr with the explosiveness out wide, with the ability 0:08:59.840 --> 0:09:02.920 to create plays with his moxie in the pocket and 0:09:03.120 --> 0:09:06.680 enough movement that he keeps plays alive and finds people 0:09:06.720 --> 0:09:11.320 down field. Obviously, what Henry Ruggs did was horrific. There's 0:09:11.360 --> 0:09:13.680 no other way to put it. The loss of life 0:09:13.679 --> 0:09:17.480 for Tina Tintor. You can't express any more than that. 0:09:17.960 --> 0:09:21.400 The focus for me is on her, not on Henry Ruggs, 0:09:21.559 --> 0:09:23.400 but he's no longer on this team. Still, for them 0:09:23.440 --> 0:09:26.920 as a football team, there goes that speed out wide, 0:09:27.120 --> 0:09:29.760 and I hate to say that because that's what got 0:09:29.800 --> 0:09:32.560 him into trouble in his personal life was speed. But 0:09:32.840 --> 0:09:35.120 that's a problem for them on offense, That's why they 0:09:35.160 --> 0:09:38.000 signed to Sean Jackson, hoping to find that person who 0:09:38.040 --> 0:09:41.160 can open things up and now allow the other receivers 0:09:41.160 --> 0:09:43.640 to play to their strengths. Brian Edwards is a big, strong, 0:09:43.720 --> 0:09:47.360 physical receiver, but he's not a sprinter. Hunter Renfro can 0:09:47.440 --> 0:09:50.120 run a route and have eighteen different moves on it. 0:09:50.760 --> 0:09:53.000 Always laughed at myself because one of my favorite movies, 0:09:53.040 --> 0:09:54.480 I don't know if you remember it, Dan, it's called 0:09:54.480 --> 0:09:58.560 The Best of Times, Robin Williams Kurt Russell, and they 0:09:58.679 --> 0:10:01.200 recreated a high school foot all game when they're adults 0:10:01.200 --> 0:10:04.280 and they're playing, and Robin Williams moves off the line 0:10:04.280 --> 0:10:07.160 of scrimmage where he'd give like a temptations, you know, 0:10:07.280 --> 0:10:10.880 soul move and a spin and all that. Hunter Renfro 0:10:11.080 --> 0:10:15.559 runs routes like that and finds himself open and making plays, 0:10:15.760 --> 0:10:18.120 And always laughed at myself. He's a much more athletic 0:10:18.200 --> 0:10:21.000 Jack Dundee from the Best of Times, but that I 0:10:21.120 --> 0:10:23.440 need that speed out wide in order to create that 0:10:23.559 --> 0:10:26.920 space for them to run those underneath routes. And Darren Waller, 0:10:26.920 --> 0:10:29.640 of course, is a tight end mask. You know, he's 0:10:29.679 --> 0:10:31.920 a wide receiver masquerading as a tight end. He's just 0:10:31.960 --> 0:10:34.560 a bigger force and he hasn't gotten the ball as 0:10:34.640 --> 0:10:37.920 much lately. So I have a feeling Greg Olson, that 0:10:38.000 --> 0:10:42.120 offensive coordinator. He's written down on his list find opportunities 0:10:42.120 --> 0:10:44.400 for Darren Waller. So it'll be an I see how 0:10:44.400 --> 0:10:47.079 that matchup it takes place. You will have to show 0:10:47.120 --> 0:10:49.559 that movie to Hunter Renfro for him to understand it's 0:10:49.559 --> 0:10:53.240 a compliment. Yeah, and and I don't know that he will. 0:10:53.280 --> 0:10:54.880 I think if I show it to me, he might 0:10:54.920 --> 0:10:57.960 punch me in my face. So I'm not sure I will, 0:10:58.000 --> 0:11:00.640 but it's it's one to me. It is a It's 0:11:00.640 --> 0:11:04.959 a very interesting deal because it's funny to make. But Dan, 0:11:05.080 --> 0:11:07.520 you've seen the highlights this year already. You're going to 0:11:07.559 --> 0:11:11.920 see it live on Sunday. He makes extra moves and 0:11:11.960 --> 0:11:15.240 we always talk about double move, occasionally a triple move. 0:11:15.640 --> 0:11:18.200 I've seen Hunter Renfro with four moves on a route 0:11:18.760 --> 0:11:21.400 and it turns into a big play. That's why I 0:11:21.440 --> 0:11:24.000 started laughing about the Jack Dundee think because in a movie, 0:11:24.000 --> 0:11:25.680 you know, he's doing all this stuff. In live scrimbar, 0:11:25.760 --> 0:11:27.679 a spin in the toil and the twist and all that. 0:11:28.000 --> 0:11:30.440 You can't do that in real life, but Hunter Renfro 0:11:30.600 --> 0:11:33.480 makes it work in real life with all without all 0:11:33.520 --> 0:11:36.360 the Hollywood extras that go with it. A couple more 0:11:36.440 --> 0:11:39.880 questions for Charles Davis from CBS. How about the Raiders defense. 0:11:39.960 --> 0:11:42.280 Max Crosby has been one of the best pass rushers 0:11:42.280 --> 0:11:44.080 in the league this year, but they gave up forty 0:11:44.080 --> 0:11:47.319 one last week to Kansas City and Patrick Mahomes basically 0:11:47.320 --> 0:11:51.000 did whatever he wanted to. Yeah, he got right, didn't he? 0:11:51.120 --> 0:11:53.840 Because Patrick Mahomes is going through a stretch. Like you know, 0:11:53.840 --> 0:11:56.760 people talk about Joe Burrow and the interception bug. That's 0:11:56.800 --> 0:11:58.800 what they were talking about with Patrick Mahomes. You're still 0:11:58.800 --> 0:12:02.160 creating plays, but every game there's a turnover or what's 0:12:02.200 --> 0:12:04.320 going on with that. Some of that the fault of 0:12:04.360 --> 0:12:08.320 the quarterback. Some of that the ball bouncing off receiver's hands. 0:12:08.640 --> 0:12:10.520 You know, some of us just bad luck as you 0:12:10.600 --> 0:12:13.040 go along. And that's why always caution people. You know, 0:12:13.160 --> 0:12:16.560 that's why quarterbacks don't yell at receivers very often because 0:12:16.559 --> 0:12:18.719 sometimes that ball bounce off their hands. But the next 0:12:18.760 --> 0:12:21.040 time you throw it into double coverage and he goes 0:12:21.120 --> 0:12:22.959 up and takes it away and give makes a big 0:12:22.960 --> 0:12:24.560 play and all of a sudden you look good again. 0:12:24.880 --> 0:12:26.560 So you gotta you take the good and the bad 0:12:26.600 --> 0:12:29.000 and figure it out in between. But I think that 0:12:29.160 --> 0:12:33.440 for this defense, they're not overly complex. Dan that front 0:12:33.440 --> 0:12:35.600 four is gonna try and get after you. If you 0:12:35.640 --> 0:12:38.200 get into second and long, third and long, here comes 0:12:38.240 --> 0:12:41.000 Yannick and gok Way off of one edge, Max Crosby 0:12:41.040 --> 0:12:43.440 off of the other. They're getting really good play from 0:12:43.480 --> 0:12:48.079 Quinton Jefferson, Darius Filon, Damien Square Inside. Those guys have 0:12:48.200 --> 0:12:51.720 played Hankins, They've played well for them inside in rushing 0:12:51.800 --> 0:12:54.840 the passer. They've given up more in the run game 0:12:55.000 --> 0:12:58.400 than you might expect. But if they get you pinned down, 0:12:58.600 --> 0:13:02.560 here they come. They're gonna play that old Seattle Cover one, 0:13:02.679 --> 0:13:05.240 Cover three behind it that Gus Bradley is going to do. 0:13:05.840 --> 0:13:08.480 And he's got a young secondary. He's gonna want to 0:13:08.520 --> 0:13:11.559 keep Jonathan Abram, the strong safety, out of coverage if 0:13:11.559 --> 0:13:14.760 he can. He's gonna have the high safety of Travan Merrick, 0:13:14.960 --> 0:13:17.720 the Brookie out of TCU, and he's hoping to get 0:13:17.720 --> 0:13:20.079 some help back out on the corners. Remember, Casey Habert 0:13:20.080 --> 0:13:21.960 has played really well for them. I mean he's been 0:13:22.000 --> 0:13:23.880 a big pick up, but they've been dinged up on 0:13:23.920 --> 0:13:26.640 the other corner a lot. Trayvon Mullin hasn't been there, 0:13:26.800 --> 0:13:29.120 and they're playing with Brandon Bason now who started the 0:13:29.120 --> 0:13:31.720 season with the Chargers. So that's what you're going to 0:13:31.760 --> 0:13:34.640 get out of them. It's not going to be overly complex. 0:13:35.240 --> 0:13:37.560 Your mission, should you choose to accept it, is to 0:13:37.600 --> 0:13:39.920 stay out of second and third and long because they 0:13:39.960 --> 0:13:42.120 get after you off the edge, which is something they 0:13:42.120 --> 0:13:45.240 didn't do last year. This year, this group, Oh, they're 0:13:45.240 --> 0:13:48.600 coming for you. Final question, you mentioned your twenty three 0:13:48.679 --> 0:13:51.560 year old son. I'm gonna mention my fifteen year old 0:13:51.559 --> 0:13:55.480 son because since twenty sixteen, I'm pretty sure that he 0:13:55.559 --> 0:13:58.840 has heard your voice more than he's heard my voice, 0:13:59.240 --> 0:14:02.840 because you are of the commentators for Madden NFL Football, 0:14:02.920 --> 0:14:06.520 the video game. When you talk to NFL players, do 0:14:06.679 --> 0:14:09.960 they want to talk about Madden more than anything else? 0:14:10.960 --> 0:14:12.959 It's funny, Dan, you brought that up, and I'll try 0:14:12.960 --> 0:14:15.199 and be SUCYNC for once in my life. This is 0:14:15.240 --> 0:14:17.840 the seventh year that I'm working on the game now 0:14:17.960 --> 0:14:20.640 and it's myself and Brandon Godden, who who's my play 0:14:20.680 --> 0:14:23.880 by play partner, formerly at Georgia Tech. Butler now he's 0:14:23.920 --> 0:14:29.600 Westwood One. He does Fox Sports, Big ten Network. He's 0:14:29.600 --> 0:14:32.280 a lead guy for them, the whole deal. Right, So 0:14:33.040 --> 0:14:35.840 all this time frame, there's not a single weekend I've 0:14:35.880 --> 0:14:38.880 done an NFL game since I've started this thing. That's 0:14:38.960 --> 0:14:43.080 somewhere a Madden mention doesn't come up. But if doesn't 0:14:43.120 --> 0:14:45.400 come from me, it's just part of the culture of 0:14:45.440 --> 0:14:48.600 what we do. Right. So, like when you're doing something, 0:14:48.640 --> 0:14:50.720 you're talking to someone, Man, that guy that you played, 0:14:50.800 --> 0:14:52.480 you know, a guy you gotta cover this week. My god, 0:14:52.520 --> 0:14:56.280 four touchdowns last week, that defensive back is likely gonna say, yeah, 0:14:56.280 --> 0:14:58.440 it was like something out of Madden. I mean, my god. 0:14:58.600 --> 0:15:00.760 You know I remember I did game I think with 0:15:00.840 --> 0:15:02.880 Chandler Jones a few years ago and he had three 0:15:02.920 --> 0:15:07.160 sacks a week before with the Cardinals. Nobody said, sitting down, Man, 0:15:07.200 --> 0:15:09.360 if that doesn't prove my Madden rating, I don't know 0:15:09.400 --> 0:15:14.320 what will. Now never connected me with it, Okay, I've 0:15:14.440 --> 0:15:16.800 not been connected, which has been an amazing part for 0:15:16.960 --> 0:15:18.800 me and a good thing, I guess in a lot 0:15:18.840 --> 0:15:22.160 of ways. Until this year. Jalen Hurts was the first 0:15:22.200 --> 0:15:24.720 one I started to talk to him. Hey, Jalen, you 0:15:24.760 --> 0:15:26.840 know he goes on a second. I know that voice. 0:15:26.880 --> 0:15:29.960 You're the Madden guy. First time that has happened seventh year, 0:15:30.120 --> 0:15:32.840 so it doesn't happen very often. But I will tell 0:15:32.840 --> 0:15:35.440 you this as a parent, let me give you some advice. 0:15:35.520 --> 0:15:38.520 Parent to parent. There's a mute button on the game. 0:15:39.720 --> 0:15:42.720 Exercise it as you need to. Can play with the 0:15:42.760 --> 0:15:44.560 headphones on and the whole thing so you don't have 0:15:44.560 --> 0:15:46.480 to keep hearing this apping at you all the time. 0:15:47.160 --> 0:15:49.080 You know, of the various battles I want to fight 0:15:49.160 --> 0:15:52.360 with my son, that isn't one of them. He is 0:15:52.400 --> 0:15:56.880 welcome to listen to you while he's playing. Good man, child. 0:15:57.000 --> 0:15:59.360 This has been a treat. It's always great to catch up. 0:15:59.440 --> 0:16:01.080 I hope you have a great game on Sunday, and 0:16:01.080 --> 0:16:03.400 I look forward to seeing the in Vegas. Hey, right 0:16:03.440 --> 0:16:05.480 back at you, Dan. I can't wait to see when 0:16:05.480 --> 0:16:08.040 we get there, see you and Dave and the crew. 0:16:08.080 --> 0:16:10.080 It's always a blast to see. It's been way too long. 0:16:10.160 --> 0:16:12.200 It's been a long time since I've done a Bengals game, 0:16:12.480 --> 0:16:14.880 but we are very excited to see them in person. 0:16:15.840 --> 0:16:18.000 Up next, my one on one visit with the Bengals 0:16:18.040 --> 0:16:22.600 all time leader in every significant hunting category, Kevin Hubert, 0:16:22.720 --> 0:16:27.760 who will reach a milestone on Sunday in Las Vegas. Kevin, 0:16:27.800 --> 0:16:30.320 you are about to play in your two hundredth NFL 0:16:30.440 --> 0:16:33.920 regular season game, and that is a big number. Ken 0:16:34.000 --> 0:16:37.200 Riley and Reggie Williams are the only other Bengals that 0:16:37.240 --> 0:16:40.320 are in the two hundred club. What's this milestone mean? 0:16:40.360 --> 0:16:43.520 Do you? You know, it's pretty cool. Fee It's something 0:16:43.520 --> 0:16:44.800 that you know, I never thought I would get to, 0:16:46.240 --> 0:16:48.280 you know, I've always just I never thought about a 0:16:48.360 --> 0:16:51.360 number of games and the fact that you know, started 0:16:51.400 --> 0:16:53.240 getting close and closer, as like Matt can actually do 0:16:53.240 --> 0:16:56.040 this and get up to two hundred games, and I 0:16:56.080 --> 0:16:58.840 just think I usually hit me. Yet I think it's 0:16:58.840 --> 0:17:00.640 gonna be some of those things that I'm running like, why, 0:17:00.920 --> 0:17:03.760 you know, I've crossed a two hundred game threshold, which 0:17:04.280 --> 0:17:05.880 which is pretty pretty cool thing. And I think it's 0:17:05.880 --> 0:17:08.680 gonna be a pretty pretty good accomplishment that I've I've 0:17:08.680 --> 0:17:11.880 had in my career. I'll say. With a new seventeen 0:17:11.960 --> 0:17:15.640 game regular season schedule this year, you can tie Ken 0:17:15.720 --> 0:17:17.919 Riley's franchise record at the end of the season with 0:17:18.000 --> 0:17:20.680 two O seven. To break it, you need to come 0:17:20.680 --> 0:17:23.840 back for a fourteenth year. Is that the plan? Yeah, 0:17:23.840 --> 0:17:26.560 I mean that's definitely the plan. And I can't just tie. 0:17:26.600 --> 0:17:28.280 I gotta break it. So I definitely got to come 0:17:28.280 --> 0:17:30.240 back next year and uh, you know, get that and 0:17:30.280 --> 0:17:32.200 hopefully pad the stats a little bit. I can't and 0:17:32.640 --> 0:17:34.440 I gotta keep Clark behind me, you know. I can't 0:17:34.480 --> 0:17:37.240 let Clark pass me. Are you guys competing for who's 0:17:37.240 --> 0:17:40.880 gonna last the longest? You know, I don't think we've 0:17:40.880 --> 0:17:42.560 ever really talked about that, but I'm sure there's a 0:17:42.560 --> 0:17:44.600 little uh, you know, I definitely want to last longer 0:17:44.600 --> 0:17:46.199 than him, and I don't want him to, you know, 0:17:46.880 --> 0:17:50.000 pass me. So yeah, there's a little internal competition that 0:17:50.080 --> 0:17:52.760 so you can last longest. We're chatting with Kevin Huber. 0:17:53.000 --> 0:17:55.560 So far this year, you're averaging forty six point four 0:17:55.640 --> 0:17:58.600 yards a punt with a net average of forty point nine. 0:17:58.880 --> 0:18:02.439 Both of those numbers are above your career average. What's 0:18:02.440 --> 0:18:06.000 been the key to your longevity? I think to staying 0:18:06.000 --> 0:18:09.000 consistent and you know, listen to your body and knowing 0:18:09.040 --> 0:18:12.159 what you need to do, just being ready. I think 0:18:12.200 --> 0:18:14.119 that's the biggest thing I've learned throughout the years is 0:18:14.640 --> 0:18:16.399 what it takes in the off season to get ready for, 0:18:16.920 --> 0:18:20.199 you know, the long season, and then also during the 0:18:20.200 --> 0:18:23.720 season to keep that maintenance up to to get yourself 0:18:23.720 --> 0:18:28.119 through and you know, it's it's it's not overly complicated. 0:18:28.200 --> 0:18:30.159 It's just a matter of just knowing what you need 0:18:30.200 --> 0:18:32.920 to do and you know, take control, being a professional 0:18:32.960 --> 0:18:35.080 and doing it. Um. Also, it's helped a lot to 0:18:35.160 --> 0:18:38.320 keep the continuity with Clark and then also with Darren, 0:18:38.640 --> 0:18:41.000 and I know Darren's gonna get no matter who we 0:18:41.040 --> 0:18:43.679 have out there, it's gonna have a team prepared. UM. 0:18:43.800 --> 0:18:46.640 So I can sit back they're confident and comfortable knowing 0:18:46.680 --> 0:18:48.199 that you know, if someone gets hurt and we have 0:18:48.200 --> 0:18:49.720 a backup come in in the middle of the game, 0:18:50.000 --> 0:18:52.040 that I know they're gonna be ready to go and 0:18:52.119 --> 0:18:54.240 know exactly what to do. And I don't like worry 0:18:54.240 --> 0:18:55.879 about are they gonna make their block or not. I 0:18:55.880 --> 0:18:57.680 can just be back there, be comfortable and you know, 0:18:57.800 --> 0:19:00.840 get the job done. At this stage your career, in 0:19:00.840 --> 0:19:04.040 your thirteenth NFL season, are you like a veteran pitcher 0:19:04.119 --> 0:19:06.800 who maybe has lost a mile or two office fastball, 0:19:06.960 --> 0:19:10.760 but finds other ways to be just as effective. Yeah, 0:19:10.880 --> 0:19:13.280 that's probably go way to put it. I mean, you know, 0:19:13.359 --> 0:19:14.919 you see some of these young guys coming out and 0:19:14.920 --> 0:19:17.919 they can just absolutely hammer the ball. Um, you know, 0:19:17.960 --> 0:19:20.520 that wasn't really the style when I came out. Um, 0:19:21.359 --> 0:19:24.840 you know, but I think you know, this being consistent 0:19:24.880 --> 0:19:27.200 at you know what I can do, not trying to 0:19:27.400 --> 0:19:29.800 do what I you know, not trying to do something different. 0:19:30.040 --> 0:19:32.719 You know, I know what I do works, and you know, 0:19:33.119 --> 0:19:36.199 I've found myself in the you know, the top you 0:19:36.240 --> 0:19:40.639 know ten um and you know, gross and net for 0:19:40.640 --> 0:19:44.320 the last several years. So obviously, UM, it'd be great 0:19:44.320 --> 0:19:46.359 if I had a light that can you know, like 0:19:46.440 --> 0:19:49.040 some of these guys. But at the same time, UM, 0:19:49.080 --> 0:19:52.600 they probably wish they had more consistency. Consistency, and I 0:19:52.640 --> 0:19:55.200 think the way I've done things has worked, and I'm 0:19:55.200 --> 0:19:58.159 just thinking to continue to do that. Punting is not 0:19:58.200 --> 0:20:01.320 the only part of your job. You've actually been out 0:20:01.320 --> 0:20:04.320 there as the holder more on pats and field goals 0:20:04.320 --> 0:20:06.920 than you have for punts this season. I think most 0:20:06.960 --> 0:20:10.080 of us kind of take the job of holder for granted. 0:20:10.520 --> 0:20:14.240