WEBVTT - Thinking Sideways: The Salish Sea Feet 0:00:04.320 --> 0:00:16.439 Thinking Sideways. I don't you never know stories of things 0:00:16.480 --> 0:00:21.720 we simply don't know the answer to. August two thousand seven, 0:00:21.760 --> 0:00:24.600 A severed foot in a running she washes up. Wait wait, 0:00:25.600 --> 0:00:27.280 don't you want to go through the whole high there? 0:00:27.360 --> 0:00:32.800 This is thinking so yes? Okay, fine, al right, okay, 0:00:32.880 --> 0:00:36.080 hi everyone, this is Thinking Sideways the podcast. I'm Devin, 0:00:36.200 --> 0:00:39.560 joined as always by Steve and Joe. See that was easy. 0:00:39.560 --> 0:00:41.599 It was fast. I didn't really need it, did we 0:00:42.080 --> 0:00:44.360 Why are you talking so fast? I don't know if 0:00:44.360 --> 0:00:45.879 you have a lot of sugar to This story just 0:00:45.920 --> 0:00:49.840 kind of excites me, and I think I'm excited because 0:00:50.200 --> 0:00:52.800 Joe always kind of solves mysteries. I think we can 0:00:52.800 --> 0:00:58.480 actually solve this one. So I'm just like ready to go. Alright, alright, 0:00:58.560 --> 0:01:00.600 let's have us do it. Okay, what are we doing. 0:01:00.720 --> 0:01:03.040 Here's the facts. We're doing the severed feet of the 0:01:03.080 --> 0:01:13.200 Salish Sea. Ah, so the mystery is a foot alright, alright, 0:01:13.440 --> 0:01:17.360 so ready, yeah, I'm gonna go back into it, all right, Okay. 0:01:17.480 --> 0:01:20.160 August two thousand and seven, A severed foot in a 0:01:20.240 --> 0:01:22.679 running shoe washes up on the shore of a beach 0:01:23.280 --> 0:01:26.720 in Canada. Since then, twelve more feet have been found. 0:01:27.240 --> 0:01:29.600 The likelihood of finding two feet in the situation is 0:01:29.680 --> 0:01:34.319 estimated at one in one million. Who who calculated those odds? 0:01:34.800 --> 0:01:37.759 How exactly do you calculate? How you calculate those odds? 0:01:37.800 --> 0:01:41.039 I think he's the wind pattern and the stars and 0:01:41.120 --> 0:01:44.480 everything aligned, ocean patterns. Ocean pattern You probably just go 0:01:44.560 --> 0:01:46.959 to the there's a web page, I have no doubt. 0:01:47.280 --> 0:01:49.480 I've never seen it. You go out to made up 0:01:49.480 --> 0:01:51.440 statistics dot com. You can go to that one. Now, 0:01:51.440 --> 0:01:53.200 I think there's probably a webpage just to voted to 0:01:53.240 --> 0:01:58.920 severed feet somewhere on the web. The numbers and now yeah, yeah, 0:02:00.600 --> 0:02:03.720 So four of the feet have been identified as belonging 0:02:03.760 --> 0:02:06.840 to two people, two separate people, but the rest of 0:02:06.840 --> 0:02:09.360 them belonged to persons unknown, and the reasons for the 0:02:09.400 --> 0:02:12.880 severed feet washing up has not been discovered. So they 0:02:12.919 --> 0:02:18.400 were actually identifiably associated with named persons two of them. Well, 0:02:18.400 --> 0:02:21.840 I'm sorry, four of the feet to two of the people. Yeah, okay, 0:02:21.960 --> 0:02:25.160 And so what were the circumstances under which these people 0:02:25.320 --> 0:02:29.840 drowned or we're okay, so we're gonna go for this one. 0:02:29.880 --> 0:02:32.320 I think it's probably best to just go foot by foot. 0:02:33.600 --> 0:02:35.960 There's so many puns in this episode. I'm so sorry. 0:02:36.919 --> 0:02:39.120 We're just gonna go like one foot and the other 0:02:40.919 --> 0:02:44.240 front of the other. Yeah, you know, the Journey of 0:02:44.240 --> 0:02:48.239 a thousand miles and all that. Alright, So the first 0:02:48.360 --> 0:02:52.080 foot was found by a girl who was visiting Canada 0:02:52.160 --> 0:02:55.680 from the state of Washington on August two thousand and seven. 0:02:55.800 --> 0:02:58.040 She was walking along the beach and she saw this 0:02:58.080 --> 0:03:00.840 athletic shoe and it had a sock in it, and 0:03:00.880 --> 0:03:05.120 she thought, I know, I'll look in that sock. I 0:03:05.160 --> 0:03:07.960 don't know why she thought that. She regretted it didn't 0:03:07.960 --> 0:03:10.320 she did. She was like, oh, maybe there's some stand 0:03:10.320 --> 0:03:13.040 in here. Cool, I guess I don't know what in 0:03:13.080 --> 0:03:16.160 your brain like you go, I don't I don't know 0:03:16.200 --> 0:03:19.000 why I see. You know, I see a shoe on 0:03:19.040 --> 0:03:20.840 the beach. I just thought of actually assumed that's a 0:03:20.880 --> 0:03:24.120 severed limb of some sort in there and well anywhere. 0:03:25.600 --> 0:03:29.120 So she opened up the sock and there was a 0:03:29.160 --> 0:03:32.560 foot in there. Well, now there's probably like a like 0:03:32.560 --> 0:03:35.480 an ankle. Yeah, I was, you're right, she saw an 0:03:35.480 --> 0:03:38.200 ankle and she and was like, oh, they put two 0:03:38.200 --> 0:03:40.960 and two together and assumed it was right. And you know, 0:03:40.960 --> 0:03:44.360 eventually it was extracted and find whatever they figured out 0:03:44.400 --> 0:03:45.840 was a human foot. They figured out it was a 0:03:45.880 --> 0:03:51.440 human foot belonging to a man in the shoe was 0:03:51.480 --> 0:03:59.160 a twelve. Okay, Well it was a kind of shoe 0:03:59.200 --> 0:04:02.640 that was produced in two thousand three only and mainly 0:04:02.680 --> 0:04:08.000 distributed in India, so it wasn't a major brand, okay. 0:04:08.360 --> 0:04:10.600 I I thought that the first one that they found 0:04:10.680 --> 0:04:14.360 was like a recognizable like Nike or Adidas. Yeah, that 0:04:14.400 --> 0:04:16.920 it was Adida's. Yeah, I thought that too, but as 0:04:16.960 --> 0:04:21.960 I got further into the research, it didn't actually mention that. Okay, okay, 0:04:21.960 --> 0:04:24.360 it must be well, there's there's so many feet that 0:04:24.560 --> 0:04:26.680 it's hard to keep them strange. Yeah. So, and that 0:04:26.720 --> 0:04:28.800 one's a little bit of an anomaly because it does 0:04:28.880 --> 0:04:32.279 initially it says that of an Adida's size twelve, but 0:04:32.360 --> 0:04:34.880 then it goes on to say that it was just 0:04:34.920 --> 0:04:37.680 a random kind of shoe. So I don't totally know, 0:04:37.800 --> 0:04:41.400 and maybe other people can suss out more information in 0:04:41.440 --> 0:04:45.560 my research, it wasn't Yeah, yeah, I wasn't positive you 0:04:45.600 --> 0:04:48.080 this why I asked, Yeah, okay, okay, so we've got 0:04:48.080 --> 0:04:51.919 this seize wave shoe. So one Okay. The second foot 0:04:52.000 --> 0:04:54.880 was found on August two thousand and seven, which is 0:04:54.920 --> 0:04:57.719 six days later in the grand scheme of things. That's 0:04:57.760 --> 0:05:01.840 a pretty close time. Yeah, that is UM in two 0:05:01.880 --> 0:05:04.360 thousand seven, so just six days later this time it 0:05:04.400 --> 0:05:07.360 was discovered by a couple. Um. It was also the 0:05:07.360 --> 0:05:11.120 foot of a man. It was water logged, and it 0:05:11.480 --> 0:05:13.960 had signs of being brought to shore by an animal 0:05:14.080 --> 0:05:18.960 instead of UM for currents or tides or whatever. Okay, yeah, 0:05:19.480 --> 0:05:22.160 kind of animal, that's a good question. I don't know. 0:05:22.560 --> 0:05:24.760 I would guess it was on the beach. Who do 0:05:24.800 --> 0:05:26.640 you see running around on on the beach all the 0:05:26.640 --> 0:05:30.600 time that picks up shoes dogs? Probably a dog, maybe 0:05:30.600 --> 0:05:32.600 a dog or like a seal or something. Could have 0:05:32.600 --> 0:05:39.479 been a seal or something. Yeah, slipper. So this kind 0:05:39.480 --> 0:05:42.040 of shoe that they found on this foot had been 0:05:42.120 --> 0:05:45.440 discontinued in two thousand and four. The third foot was 0:05:45.560 --> 0:05:48.839 found on February eight, two eight. It was also a 0:05:48.839 --> 0:05:51.880 man's foot, UM, also wearing a sneaker in a sock. 0:05:52.040 --> 0:05:54.080 This kind of shoe was sold in Canada and the 0:05:54.160 --> 0:05:59.160 US between February one and June two thousand three. Okay, 0:05:59.560 --> 0:06:01.920 the more these dates will become important in a minute. 0:06:01.920 --> 0:06:03.960 But yeah, I'm just as I'm running here, I'm like, Okay, 0:06:03.960 --> 0:06:06.680 most of these shoes are about three or four years 0:06:06.680 --> 0:06:11.119 old when they're found. Okay. Um. So the fourth foot 0:06:11.200 --> 0:06:15.560 was found on May twenty twond two thousand eight. It 0:06:15.640 --> 0:06:18.200 was a sock and a sneaker. This time the foot 0:06:18.240 --> 0:06:22.440 belonged to a woman. However, the sneaker she was wearing 0:06:22.520 --> 0:06:28.880 had been manufactured only in Okay, so even older. Okay, 0:06:28.880 --> 0:06:32.080 this is getting weirder. Okay. So the fifth foot was 0:06:32.120 --> 0:06:35.480 found on June six, two eight m. It was floating 0:06:35.640 --> 0:06:38.640 in the water. It wasn't on the land because I 0:06:38.640 --> 0:06:42.400 guess at this point people are looking for feet, you know. Okay, Okay, 0:06:42.400 --> 0:06:45.080 I want to say something about that because that was 0:06:45.160 --> 0:06:46.919 one of the funny things that I found when I 0:06:46.960 --> 0:06:51.880 was doing the research. Is somebody said, well, it's crazy 0:06:51.920 --> 0:06:55.200 that we're finding all of these severed feet, but people 0:06:55.240 --> 0:06:57.440 are aware of it because the media has got ahold 0:06:57.440 --> 0:06:59.240 of it. So now every time a person sees a 0:06:59.320 --> 0:07:02.000 shoe flowing in the water, they weighed out and grab 0:07:02.080 --> 0:07:03.680 it to see if it's got a foot in it. 0:07:04.360 --> 0:07:06.880 So that's something I would necessarily do. I wouldn't either. 0:07:06.960 --> 0:07:09.840 But I think, you know, it's kind of the when 0:07:09.880 --> 0:07:12.679 you don't know that all these feet are being found 0:07:12.800 --> 0:07:16.400 on the beach kind of where you are you think, oh, sneaker, Yeah, 0:07:16.440 --> 0:07:19.560 you just it's a piece of trash, right, Yeah, I 0:07:19.720 --> 0:07:22.400 probably walked past several severed feet in my lifetime and 0:07:23.440 --> 0:07:27.200 you don't know. So this foot, through DNA testing, was 0:07:27.240 --> 0:07:30.239 found to be the left foot of the third foot 0:07:30.240 --> 0:07:32.760 that was found. So the third foot was a right foot, 0:07:33.120 --> 0:07:36.600 so they were matching parents. There was a matching pair. Okay, yeah, 0:07:37.040 --> 0:07:41.880 the joke in there somewhere. So the sixth foot was 0:07:41.920 --> 0:07:44.880 found on August first, two thousand eight UM, and it 0:07:44.920 --> 0:07:47.240 was covered in seaweeds. So again this kind of goes 0:07:47.280 --> 0:07:49.920 back to the like people are kind of actively looking 0:07:49.960 --> 0:07:52.240 for feet and yeah, you see a sneaker covered in 0:07:52.280 --> 0:07:58.520 sneak seaweed and you're like, awesome, another foot, Yeah, another 0:07:58.600 --> 0:08:01.120 severed foot. They were bit more to you because imagine 0:08:01.160 --> 0:08:03.160 the number of people that that didn't turn into the 0:08:03.200 --> 0:08:06.600 authorities and instead to come yeah for souvenirs. Yeah, that's 0:08:06.680 --> 0:08:11.880 really disturbing, really disturbing. That's awful. Never to show me 0:08:12.160 --> 0:08:18.160 your sneaker collection, please, actually let me get it. So 0:08:18.360 --> 0:08:21.800 this one was a size eleven. It was a right foot, um, 0:08:21.840 --> 0:08:23.880 and it was in a large black top shoe. I've 0:08:23.920 --> 0:08:26.320 seen pictures of this. It's also a sneaker. It's like, 0:08:26.320 --> 0:08:29.160 you know, like the air Jordans or whatever. It's a 0:08:29.280 --> 0:08:32.960 high top kind of okay, And it contained bones and 0:08:33.040 --> 0:08:36.960 human flesh. And this one was found in Washington State 0:08:37.000 --> 0:08:41.320 in the United States, not Canada. This is the one 0:08:41.559 --> 0:08:45.920 on August one. Yes, okay, al right, so this is 0:08:45.960 --> 0:08:48.679 the first time they crossed the border. It's a long walk. 0:08:49.400 --> 0:08:53.760 This show is the punniest. Sorry, I can't help myself. 0:08:54.080 --> 0:08:57.400 So the seventh foot was found on November eleventh, two thight. 0:08:57.720 --> 0:09:00.439 It was also found floating. It was also a woman foot, 0:09:00.520 --> 0:09:03.280 and via d DNA testing, it was found to be 0:09:03.360 --> 0:09:09.760 the mate of that fourth foot, the woman's first yeah okay, yeah, um. 0:09:09.800 --> 0:09:12.520 So the eighth foot was found on October eighth, two 0:09:12.520 --> 0:09:16.000 thousand nine, inside a running shoe. The ninth foot was 0:09:16.040 --> 0:09:20.800 found on August, also in Washington State, and somehow it 0:09:20.840 --> 0:09:23.240 was determined that the foot had been in water for 0:09:23.320 --> 0:09:26.520 two months. It's been floating around for two months in 0:09:26.520 --> 0:09:31.320 the water. Maybe it's like how much water, how water 0:09:31.360 --> 0:09:35.120 logged it is, how much decomposition and stuff like that, 0:09:35.240 --> 0:09:38.719 or nibbling by fishes. But so they actually made a 0:09:38.760 --> 0:09:40.920 determination for the ninth foot, but they hadn't done it 0:09:40.960 --> 0:09:44.080 for any of the previous feed Yeah, I don't know. 0:09:46.800 --> 0:09:49.079 Maybe it's so it's getting a little This one also 0:09:49.240 --> 0:09:53.880 is a little weird because size wise, they suggested this 0:09:53.960 --> 0:09:58.280 foot was either like a small footed woman or a juvenile, 0:09:58.720 --> 0:10:01.160 and it was. It was us a foot. It wasn't 0:10:01.160 --> 0:10:05.480 found with a sneaker. Oh, so this was a barefoot 0:10:05.600 --> 0:10:08.920 just floating along and floating in the water or on 0:10:09.000 --> 0:10:12.840 the beach. It was on the beach, I believe. Yeah, 0:10:13.440 --> 0:10:18.079 but it had been in the water previously, because we'll 0:10:18.120 --> 0:10:22.120 get into this, but feet by themselves don't float very well, exactly. 0:10:22.160 --> 0:10:24.240 They flowed a lot better when they have fluffy little 0:10:24.240 --> 0:10:27.120 tennis shoes. Absolutely. So they sent this foot out for 0:10:27.200 --> 0:10:31.360 DNA testing and the tests were inconclusive. Um. The tenth 0:10:31.440 --> 0:10:36.040 foot was found on December five, also in Washington, but 0:10:36.360 --> 0:10:40.720 in like Tacoma that's quite away really south compared to 0:10:40.880 --> 0:10:43.920 are they've been finding most of these feet for for 0:10:43.960 --> 0:10:48.040 anybody who doesn't know. So we were right on the 0:10:48.080 --> 0:10:52.760 border of the state of Washington and Canada, and that's 0:10:52.760 --> 0:10:56.559 where Seattle is essentially. And then and these things are 0:10:56.559 --> 0:10:58.719 all happening right in that area for Seattle, and like 0:10:58.800 --> 0:11:01.800 Vancouver b C. Yeah, kind of pretty close. And then 0:11:02.080 --> 0:11:07.480 to go to Tacoma, our plus drive in a card 0:11:07.720 --> 0:11:10.640 free was speed. So we're looking at sixty plus seventy 0:11:10.679 --> 0:11:14.400 plus miles farther south. Yeah, that's quite a distance, which 0:11:14.440 --> 0:11:18.559 makes me suspect that that one's a copycat. Maybe it 0:11:18.640 --> 0:11:22.719 totally Maybe seven Get my foot in the news, Get 0:11:22.760 --> 0:11:28.199 a foot in the door. Um So that foot was 0:11:28.240 --> 0:11:32.800 also very small. Um it was found in a hiking boot. Uh. 0:11:32.840 --> 0:11:35.120 And it was a boy's size six, So either like 0:11:35.160 --> 0:11:37.400 a juvenile or a small adult. To give you to 0:11:38.200 --> 0:11:41.959 size reference, that's the size that my foot is. People 0:11:42.000 --> 0:11:44.839 that are not in the studio, you probably were. I 0:11:44.840 --> 0:11:48.160 would say you were a men's six or seven. I 0:11:48.200 --> 0:11:52.920 wear a women's six or seven, which is a boy's six. Okay. Well, 0:11:52.960 --> 0:11:56.960 obviously I don't buy small shoes, which is a men's 0:11:57.160 --> 0:12:01.520 like four. Okay. Anyway, A picture of never Mind foot 0:12:01.559 --> 0:12:05.240 will be posted on the website, so that'll be good reference. Yes, 0:12:05.400 --> 0:12:10.000 the eleventh foot was then discovered on August eleven. So 0:12:10.040 --> 0:12:14.719 we're getting to like fairly recent four years this has 0:12:14.760 --> 0:12:19.160 been happening. Okay, that this one had a bonus, Yeah, 0:12:19.160 --> 0:12:25.280 I did have a bonus. The bonus was a lake bone, um, 0:12:25.360 --> 0:12:28.000 and it was found to be floating in a marina. 0:12:28.920 --> 0:12:32.240 So this one's, you know, again, kind of an anomaly pattern. 0:12:32.400 --> 0:12:36.640 The twelfth foot was found November four, two eleven, however, 0:12:36.760 --> 0:12:40.440 was identified as belonging to a local fisherman to the 0:12:40.520 --> 0:12:44.080 area where this was found that had disappeared in seven 0:12:44.280 --> 0:12:46.520 And where was that found? Yeah, it was found in 0:12:46.559 --> 0:12:50.680 a lake nearby the sea. So this one is like total, 0:12:50.720 --> 0:12:54.360 a total anomally. Yeah, this is not really they lump 0:12:54.440 --> 0:12:57.920 it in. Yeah, so the lake and the river and everything. 0:12:57.920 --> 0:13:01.320 It's close, okay, close, all right, I'm ruling that one 0:13:01.360 --> 0:13:05.480 out of the list, but yeah, I agree. But thirteen 0:13:05.600 --> 0:13:08.600 was found attached to a leg bone in a plastic 0:13:08.679 --> 0:13:13.360 bag in Seattle, Washington, floating under a bridge, extra style 0:13:13.679 --> 0:13:21.680 dexter style. Really, so that one another anomaly, and then 0:13:21.880 --> 0:13:25.880 the one is also an anomaly, which they I don't 0:13:25.920 --> 0:13:28.920 know why. Generally it's generally accepted that these are all 0:13:29.000 --> 0:13:32.160 lumped in together. But I don't. I don't because it's 0:13:32.400 --> 0:13:36.160 phenomena of feet. Yeah. Well, the thing is is that 0:13:36.200 --> 0:13:40.199 there have been some feet appearing like on the east 0:13:40.200 --> 0:13:44.040 coast in in Florida, things like that. They're not lumped 0:13:44.040 --> 0:13:47.040 in with this case. It's just on the west coast. 0:13:47.120 --> 0:13:50.959 But this one was found on September two thousand and 0:13:51.040 --> 0:13:55.160 thirteen in San Francisco, California, which, like, I just feel 0:13:55.160 --> 0:13:57.760 like if there is any connection between these feet, that 0:13:57.760 --> 0:14:01.559 foot is not connected. Yeah, well, um, it could be. 0:14:01.679 --> 0:14:04.559 But so was this one the one that was found 0:14:04.559 --> 0:14:09.480 in San Francisco. Was it also in a running shoe? Yeah? 0:14:09.760 --> 0:14:12.559 It was. Yeah. And then there's one more foot. Um. 0:14:12.679 --> 0:14:15.080 It was found in July of two thousand eight um 0:14:15.120 --> 0:14:18.080 and identified by DNA testing to have belonged to a 0:14:18.120 --> 0:14:21.120 man who was suicidal, and there's been no further information 0:14:21.160 --> 0:14:24.000 released due to the family's request. So that was that 0:14:24.320 --> 0:14:26.600 you're presenting that with a little out of order just 0:14:26.640 --> 0:14:29.280 because of the circumstances. Okay, So now that that you 0:14:29.280 --> 0:14:31.320 confuse me when you jump back in time, I got, 0:14:31.400 --> 0:14:33.680 I got so Okay, So let's let's be very clear 0:14:33.720 --> 0:14:36.480 here that one has been identified to a real person 0:14:36.560 --> 0:14:39.320 who people know. The other ones that have been identified 0:14:39.360 --> 0:14:42.320 have not been identified to people, just that they match 0:14:42.360 --> 0:14:44.200 each other. They've just been made it together, but we 0:14:44.200 --> 0:14:47.640 don't know who. They don't know that they belong to. Okay, 0:14:47.680 --> 0:14:52.120 So now, but the July foot that was found where 0:14:52.160 --> 0:14:56.880 also in the sea. Okay, And it was like and 0:14:56.880 --> 0:15:00.040 and presumably this guy jumped off a ship or he 0:15:00.120 --> 0:15:03.000 jumped off a bridge. Yeah, was what the kind of 0:15:03.040 --> 0:15:06.000 theory was. He was known to be suicidal out of respect, 0:15:06.080 --> 0:15:07.800 he had his history, and he lived near one of 0:15:07.800 --> 0:15:18.280 the bridge. There's a theory floating around were terrible people. 0:15:18.720 --> 0:15:21.280 This is a bad one for that. There's a theory 0:15:21.280 --> 0:15:25.600 floating around. But these feet may belong to um. There's 0:15:25.600 --> 0:15:27.600 a lot of theories flitting around. One of them is 0:15:27.600 --> 0:15:31.400 that there's a serial murderer that has a foot fetish. 0:15:31.800 --> 0:15:34.840 What listen? Okay, so I guess the theory is like 0:15:35.000 --> 0:15:37.560 this is sound kind of a little bit that they 0:15:37.600 --> 0:15:42.440 it's Dexter style totally. They kill these people, They take 0:15:42.480 --> 0:15:44.960 them out into the ocean, they cut off their feet 0:15:45.320 --> 0:15:48.280 and then drop everything into the ocean to the sea, 0:15:48.720 --> 0:15:53.240 and their feet float away and the body sink. And 0:15:53.280 --> 0:15:55.400 that's why they're all because this person has been active 0:15:55.440 --> 0:16:00.480 in this area area at this time. Okay, now, but 0:16:00.480 --> 0:16:04.440 but this is easily provable because then the feet would 0:16:04.440 --> 0:16:07.920 have been severed by a bone, so presumably so that 0:16:07.960 --> 0:16:10.720 would be evidence. But if I'm wrong, and I don't 0:16:10.720 --> 0:16:14.440 know if you're going to go into the decomposition process 0:16:14.680 --> 0:16:18.840 that is happeningly, because that, I think is where that 0:16:18.880 --> 0:16:21.520 part lose that piece of the puzzle. No, I don't. 0:16:21.640 --> 0:16:24.160 I don't think the bone really decomposes the way flesh 0:16:24.200 --> 0:16:26.800 does in water. Well, you're absolutely correct, and we'll get 0:16:26.840 --> 0:16:29.960 into this in just a minute. I think this theory 0:16:30.040 --> 0:16:36.600 is total bunk. Okay, yeah, serial killer stupid if there's 0:16:36.600 --> 0:16:39.600 so many things that doesn't explain, especially one of the 0:16:39.640 --> 0:16:41.360 things that doesn't explain is that if there is a 0:16:41.360 --> 0:16:43.480 serial killer in this area and he's dumping a bunch 0:16:43.520 --> 0:16:46.800 of bodies, there would be so many people that has 0:16:46.840 --> 0:16:49.320 been reported missing, and they could have told they've DNA 0:16:49.440 --> 0:16:52.680 tested all of these different shoes with all the different 0:16:52.680 --> 0:16:54.960 feet that have the shoes on that and that would 0:16:55.000 --> 0:16:57.680 be would have been a washing on shore. Absolutely, And 0:16:57.720 --> 0:16:59.400 also if he had a foot fetish, wouldn't you think 0:16:59.400 --> 0:17:02.320 he'd keep the I think so, Yeah, Yeah, that was 0:17:02.360 --> 0:17:05.200 my other thing. I mean, he'd keep him a surprise, 0:17:05.320 --> 0:17:08.440 not chuck him over last and free, you know. I mean, 0:17:08.640 --> 0:17:10.719 on the other hand, maybe he had an anti foot fetish. 0:17:10.760 --> 0:17:13.600 He felt the feet were hideous and unclean, so he 0:17:13.720 --> 0:17:15.800 chopped them off and kept the rest of the corpse 0:17:15.800 --> 0:17:18.840 for his collection. Yeah, and then threw them in the city. 0:17:18.880 --> 0:17:22.240 But yeah, it's all it's not really incredible. Let's talk 0:17:22.280 --> 0:17:26.200 about decomposition. He was talking about what happens because the 0:17:26.240 --> 0:17:28.760 body is decaying and water. We're just talking about how 0:17:28.840 --> 0:17:33.640 upsetting the term deep loving was right recently. This is 0:17:33.960 --> 0:17:37.800 not as upsetting, but it's still pretty grows, still pretty gross. 0:17:37.840 --> 0:17:39.960 So what happens is it just begins, I mean, to 0:17:40.040 --> 0:17:43.679 decay right here in the water, and your flesh and 0:17:43.680 --> 0:17:47.439 your muscles start to decay, but your bones don't really decay. 0:17:49.160 --> 0:17:52.199 So what happens is your body starts to break apart 0:17:52.280 --> 0:17:55.600 at the weak points. What are your weak points? Joints? 0:17:56.480 --> 0:17:58.919 What's one of the weakest of the joints, your ankle, 0:18:00.480 --> 0:18:04.359 especially if it's attached to a big floaty thing and 0:18:04.400 --> 0:18:06.600 the weight of your body is dragging it out there. Yeah, 0:18:07.640 --> 0:18:11.520 so that's the theory kind of where people are going 0:18:11.640 --> 0:18:16.040 with why we've been discovering these feet. We I'm one 0:18:16.040 --> 0:18:18.320 of the discoverers why these feet have kind of been 0:18:18.359 --> 0:18:21.480 discovered and they were attached to like because you notice 0:18:21.480 --> 0:18:25.520 that they're all athletic shoes, which would float most as 0:18:25.560 --> 0:18:28.679 Oxfords for example, wouldn't probably most of them, you know, 0:18:28.720 --> 0:18:33.359 there's Doc Doc Martin's probably we've got the bare foot. 0:18:33.880 --> 0:18:36.000 We've got a foot and a hiking shoe. And I 0:18:36.000 --> 0:18:37.800 don't know about you guys, but my hiking boots have 0:18:37.840 --> 0:18:42.000 never been particularly seeming buoyant. Maybe they are. They might 0:18:42.040 --> 0:18:44.720 be um, but there could be like an air pocket. 0:18:47.280 --> 0:18:49.760 So that's kind of the theory as to why we're 0:18:49.760 --> 0:18:53.920 finding these things. And so they float, okay, they float, 0:18:53.960 --> 0:18:57.560 and the flat On top of that, you've got the 0:18:57.600 --> 0:19:03.119 fact that it's estimated that body will pretty much stay 0:19:03.160 --> 0:19:07.280 intact for about three years, um, you know, breaking off 0:19:07.280 --> 0:19:09.320 at the week. That won't look too hot, it won't 0:19:09.320 --> 0:19:11.800 look it's not gonna look good, but it's not going 0:19:11.880 --> 0:19:16.879 to be crushed. It's still kind of identifiable. Not only 0:19:17.680 --> 0:19:21.600 do bodies kind of resemble themselves for three years, but 0:19:21.680 --> 0:19:25.120 it's estimated that a foot could float as far as 0:19:25.160 --> 0:19:27.719 one thousand miles in the sea. And the thing is, 0:19:27.840 --> 0:19:29.680 if I would think that it could go a lot 0:19:29.720 --> 0:19:33.000 further potentially, But if you think about it, a foot 0:19:33.200 --> 0:19:38.959 that is encased in a sock, in a shoe normally, 0:19:39.000 --> 0:19:42.800 if it was exposed, let's no shoe, no sock, it's 0:19:42.840 --> 0:19:45.720 got to start breaking down and all those little bones 0:19:45.720 --> 0:19:47.439 are going to work their way out. The whole thing 0:19:47.480 --> 0:19:51.399 is gonna tread apart. Whereas when it's stuck inside of 0:19:51.440 --> 0:19:55.959 a container for lack of a better text, for the 0:19:56.000 --> 0:20:00.119 most part, it's gonna be relatively in original condition. And 0:20:00.119 --> 0:20:04.240 other than the fact that it's water loged't or hearts, 0:20:04.560 --> 0:20:08.960 it's got bump, everything's still going to be stuck in there, 0:20:08.960 --> 0:20:11.879 because if you think about it, unless you're wearing those 0:20:12.359 --> 0:20:16.520 little athletics booty socks that for running socks, those are 0:20:16.560 --> 0:20:19.560 what they are. Socks tend to come up just a 0:20:19.600 --> 0:20:21.879 little bit above the ankle. So as soon as what's 0:20:21.920 --> 0:20:25.480 above the ankle goes away, they close up and they 0:20:25.520 --> 0:20:37.760 hold everything here, hold that freshness in any kind of 0:20:37.800 --> 0:20:39.720 why I brought the stories so I thought they would 0:20:40.000 --> 0:20:43.480 got it? Got it? Anyways? I really like this theory 0:20:44.280 --> 0:20:48.600 to why we're finding a lot of these now, um, 0:20:48.640 --> 0:20:51.120 and it kind of ties into why it's important that 0:20:51.160 --> 0:20:54.920 we pay attention to the year that the shoes were manufactured. 0:20:56.600 --> 0:21:01.600 And this theory is that these feet belong to victims 0:21:01.600 --> 0:21:05.639 of the two thousand four Asians unami. Yeah, that's entirely possible, 0:21:06.000 --> 0:21:09.479 So run that through for so here's the way that 0:21:09.480 --> 0:21:12.720 that theory kind of works is none of these shoes 0:21:12.760 --> 0:21:16.800 were manufactured past two thousand four. Uh. This is the 0:21:16.840 --> 0:21:19.600 ones that were found prior, all of the ones that 0:21:19.640 --> 0:21:22.800 were found up to about two thousand eight, right, because 0:21:22.800 --> 0:21:25.880 after that they kind of just started getting scattered. Yeah, okay, Yeah, 0:21:25.920 --> 0:21:27.919 the ones that I think I would qualify as a 0:21:28.000 --> 0:21:32.120 viable core group, the core group, Yeah, they're not manufactured 0:21:32.119 --> 0:21:35.560 after two four and they're all shoes that are make 0:21:35.640 --> 0:21:40.760 and model that were sold in Asia, sold primarily in Asia. 0:21:41.119 --> 0:21:46.359 And it would help explain the influx. Is if you 0:21:46.440 --> 0:21:49.160 think these bodies were all kind of washed to see 0:21:49.200 --> 0:21:52.240 at the same time, they kind of decompose at the 0:21:52.280 --> 0:21:55.679 same rate. So there's a high instance of you know, 0:21:55.720 --> 0:21:58.600 they all got caught up in the same current currence. 0:21:58.800 --> 0:22:01.160 But this is a guess things sounds one of those 0:22:01.200 --> 0:22:04.239 two things. Number One, I mean, did anybody run any 0:22:04.359 --> 0:22:06.680 DNA analysis on these things to find out there they 0:22:06.720 --> 0:22:10.680 belong to Thai mostly Thai people. I have no idea. Yeah, 0:22:10.800 --> 0:22:12.960 that'd be worth finding why. I don't know that they 0:22:12.960 --> 0:22:17.560 can find that specifically. I think when they run DNA 0:22:17.640 --> 0:22:20.919 analysis they're looking for a match to put it against. 0:22:21.080 --> 0:22:25.720 I don't know that they're going to the lens the ethnicity. 0:22:25.840 --> 0:22:27.360 But actually, have you guys ever heard of the North 0:22:27.400 --> 0:22:29.960 Pacific Drift? This rings a bell, but I can't think 0:22:29.960 --> 0:22:31.600 of what it is. Yeah, it's a it's a major 0:22:31.800 --> 0:22:35.000 Currently there's there's a there's a circular current that runs 0:22:35.000 --> 0:22:38.840 around the Pacific basin, and so like it goes down 0:22:38.920 --> 0:22:42.400 the west coast of North America and then turns goes 0:22:42.520 --> 0:22:45.720 west across the ocean, and when it hits Aja, it 0:22:45.760 --> 0:22:48.560 turns and goes north and then eventually it turns and 0:22:48.640 --> 0:22:52.360 goes east again. And the circuit and yeah, and where 0:22:52.440 --> 0:22:54.080 it hits and I can show you guys a picture 0:22:54.119 --> 0:22:55.919 of it, But where it hits the west coast of 0:22:56.000 --> 0:22:59.439 North America, it splits into two parts. One goes south, 0:22:59.520 --> 0:23:01.439 one goes north towards Alaska. And they want to go 0:23:01.520 --> 0:23:06.639 south towards San Francisco. Uh, and that spot is well 0:23:07.160 --> 0:23:11.200 right about Vancouver Island. Fute it sound interesting. I think 0:23:11.240 --> 0:23:13.560 it's that that's really interesting. Actually, I don't know why 0:23:13.600 --> 0:23:16.560 I didn't come up with that. Seems like it would 0:23:16.600 --> 0:23:19.840 be like a very helpful to this theory. Yeah, but 0:23:19.880 --> 0:23:23.159 I'll show it to you after the the you know, 0:23:23.280 --> 0:23:27.200 I really I'm gonna be honest if if I've got 0:23:27.200 --> 0:23:29.840 to put in my two centses. So what I think 0:23:29.880 --> 0:23:32.879 it is. I think that one of the few people 0:23:32.920 --> 0:23:37.080 that's been identified the guy who committed suicide presumably from 0:23:37.080 --> 0:23:41.240 having jumped from a bridge. What happens when a body 0:23:41.720 --> 0:23:46.840 hits water and dies is they initially sink, Well, they 0:23:46.840 --> 0:23:49.159 float for a little bit and then they sink. I mean, 0:23:49.200 --> 0:23:53.080 that's why there's is it Tom Sawyer where they go 0:23:53.200 --> 0:23:56.359