WEBVTT - Carlos PenaVega & James Maslow from Big Time Rush 0:00:14.800 --> 0:00:16.720 Thank you everybody so much for joining us on this 0:00:16.800 --> 0:00:20.079 park hopper episode of Magical Rewind. And this really is 0:00:20.120 --> 0:00:24.239 a hopper because we're not only hopping from movies to music, 0:00:24.280 --> 0:00:27.800 but we're also hopping networks, which we've never done before. 0:00:27.960 --> 0:00:31.000 We're hopping from Disney to Nickelodeon, which is the reverse 0:00:31.040 --> 0:00:31.520 of what I did. 0:00:31.600 --> 0:00:33.000 I hoped Nickelodeon to Disney. 0:00:33.080 --> 0:00:34.280 Yeah that's true. 0:00:34.080 --> 0:00:37.040 But I'm we're going backwards, so I'm. 0:00:36.880 --> 0:00:42.760 Into it, opening up another door for us guys here onway. 0:00:41.640 --> 0:00:43.520 You everything we can talk about here. 0:00:44.320 --> 0:00:44.560 Yeah. 0:00:44.640 --> 0:00:48.839 So we're very excited because this band, I guess we 0:00:48.840 --> 0:00:51.440 should say because they're also actors, but this band is 0:00:51.479 --> 0:00:52.760 making a comeback and I think going on. 0:00:52.760 --> 0:00:54.200 Tour, yes, big tour. 0:00:54.360 --> 0:00:57.600 So we are very very excited. We have two of 0:00:57.640 --> 0:01:00.520 the members here, so two of the four pretty to 0:01:00.560 --> 0:01:03.800 have both James and Carlos from Big Time Rush, so 0:01:03.960 --> 0:01:12.319 help us welcome them. Hi, how are you both doing? 0:01:12.440 --> 0:01:13.720 Thank you for joining us. 0:01:13.840 --> 0:01:16.120 Get out of here, of course doing. 0:01:16.560 --> 0:01:17.880 We're good. We're so excited. 0:01:17.920 --> 0:01:21.399 You you're our first ever to jump ship and be 0:01:21.480 --> 0:01:24.880 from Nickelodeon. We were strictly Disney, but we were like, 0:01:24.959 --> 0:01:26.720 we can't not talk to you guys. 0:01:26.920 --> 0:01:28.720 You know what, there's always room for improvement. 0:01:29.120 --> 0:01:34.520 No, okay, we're starting this morning off with some fighting words. 0:01:37.520 --> 0:01:40.560 I was saying, this is we normally do Disney and 0:01:40.600 --> 0:01:42.280 then go and now we're going to Nickelodeon, which is 0:01:42.280 --> 0:01:43.959 the reverse of what I did, because I started on 0:01:44.040 --> 0:01:46.880 Nickelodeon and then went to the channel. I did what 0:01:47.640 --> 0:01:49.880 I was an old school Nickelodeon. I got slimmed on 0:01:50.000 --> 0:01:52.640 Nickelodeon back in the ear. That's how Nickelodeon I was, 0:01:52.800 --> 0:01:54.640 Yes see, but like for. 0:01:54.840 --> 0:01:58.160 So, I mean listen, full disclosure a huge fan, like, oh, 0:01:58.200 --> 0:02:00.880 thank you, we're talking with you. But what were you 0:02:00.920 --> 0:02:01.600 on Nickelodeon. 0:02:01.920 --> 0:02:03.720 I was on a show called Don't Just Sit There 0:02:03.760 --> 0:02:07.160 for three years where we were like a young Saturday 0:02:07.200 --> 0:02:09.720 Night Live. We had special guests and a band and 0:02:09.760 --> 0:02:10.800 all that cool kind of stuff. 0:02:10.840 --> 0:02:13.600 So yeah, so is this like before all that? 0:02:14.160 --> 0:02:16.600 Oh way before this was in nineteen eighty seven, I 0:02:16.639 --> 0:02:18.680 went up and was on the original you Can't Do 0:02:18.720 --> 0:02:21.720 That on television in Canada and had the slime. 0:02:21.440 --> 0:02:23.160 Drop on me and all that kind of stuff. 0:02:23.240 --> 0:02:28.120 Yeah, old you were like og og og Nickelodeon. But 0:02:28.200 --> 0:02:30.160 we're not here to talk about me. We can if 0:02:30.200 --> 0:02:33.880 you'd like. But there's so much going on for you 0:02:33.919 --> 0:02:36.320 guys right now, not just what you've been through, but 0:02:36.400 --> 0:02:38.560 you've got a whole bunch of new stuff coming up. 0:02:38.840 --> 0:02:40.240 I don't even know where to No, let's start at 0:02:40.240 --> 0:02:40.920 the beginning, Sabrina. 0:02:41.000 --> 0:02:42.680 We always do that, Start at the beginning. 0:02:43.560 --> 0:02:45.639 Let's start at the beginning, big time. 0:02:45.720 --> 0:02:48.440 Rush, Can you tell us a little bit about how 0:02:48.480 --> 0:02:51.560 you heard about this project? Was this were you singers 0:02:51.639 --> 0:02:54.799 that then were also actors? Were you actors that were 0:02:54.800 --> 0:02:56.760 also singers? Was this just a regular audition? 0:02:56.840 --> 0:02:59.200 Take us through everything, dude, I feel like every actor 0:02:59.240 --> 0:02:59.960 is like, I'll do it. 0:03:00.080 --> 0:03:01.720 I sin, I dance, I juggle. 0:03:01.720 --> 0:03:04.760 It's on my resume. It's on my resume. 0:03:05.160 --> 0:03:07.680 Me like back in the day when you would load 0:03:07.760 --> 0:03:10.080 up your resume and you're like, I can juggle, I 0:03:10.120 --> 0:03:10.560 can do. 0:03:10.480 --> 0:03:12.000 This horseback ride. 0:03:12.120 --> 0:03:15.040 Sure, yeah, right, exactly, Yeah, I could do any accent 0:03:15.040 --> 0:03:15.520 in the world. 0:03:17.040 --> 0:03:21.360 It just had all dialects and it's okay, that's fine, But. 0:03:21.280 --> 0:03:25.040 It was for us, it was literally an audition. It 0:03:25.120 --> 0:03:27.639 was a pretty crazy process. I know, every screen test 0:03:27.720 --> 0:03:29.320 and you know, look to get on any TV show 0:03:29.400 --> 0:03:33.520 is not an easy feat and often a crazy process, 0:03:33.520 --> 0:03:36.320 but this one in particular was two years where we 0:03:36.360 --> 0:03:39.200 all came in at different times. Logan and I were 0:03:39.200 --> 0:03:40.960 in the first round of auditions. 0:03:40.560 --> 0:03:41.080 They ever did. 0:03:41.520 --> 0:03:45.080 They took thousands of people from across the country, blew 0:03:45.200 --> 0:03:46.600 us in for that one, and I think the next 0:03:46.600 --> 0:03:48.920 two or three and hey, can you sing? 0:03:49.080 --> 0:03:50.680 Catch you with a singing coach? Can you dance? Get 0:03:50.720 --> 0:03:52.080 you the dancing coach? Can you act? 0:03:52.360 --> 0:03:53.920 They'd put us together in pairs of four, and we 0:03:53.960 --> 0:03:57.080 did a whole screen test, then they recast, did it again, 0:03:57.480 --> 0:03:58.800 then they recast. 0:03:58.440 --> 0:04:00.760 Carlos, you're in the second or third, third round of that. 0:04:01.320 --> 0:04:04.400 Yeah, and then they picked four of us that didn't 0:04:04.400 --> 0:04:07.240 include Kendall. We shot a whole million dollar pilot without 0:04:07.320 --> 0:04:10.040 Kendle with another chapter, and then they. 0:04:09.920 --> 0:04:12.200 Said, yeah, it's good, but it could be better. Let's 0:04:12.200 --> 0:04:12.960 recast again. 0:04:13.120 --> 0:04:16.080 Oh oh, I mean, I'll say all that to say that, 0:04:16.160 --> 0:04:19.280 you know, we were hopeful after two years and four 0:04:19.360 --> 0:04:21.120 rounds of screens ask that this would work, and it 0:04:21.160 --> 0:04:24.240 could have not worked, but luckily it turned out to 0:04:24.240 --> 0:04:26.840 be the biggest live action premiere in the history of Nickelodeon. 0:04:27.000 --> 0:04:29.320 And I was back when people watched TV. I mean 0:04:29.680 --> 0:04:32.240 remember that, you guys. I mean, like y'all were you 0:04:32.279 --> 0:04:34.640 guys were in the prime of when kids actually tuned in. 0:04:34.680 --> 0:04:37.320 But for us, I think we got something like fourteen 0:04:37.440 --> 0:04:41.840 million kids just huge watching watching the premiere. Now you're 0:04:41.920 --> 0:04:42.719 lucky to get. 0:04:42.560 --> 0:04:44.560 Half a million. That's terrible. 0:04:44.560 --> 0:04:47.080 That's like, but you do a good TikTok and you 0:04:47.080 --> 0:04:50.440 get twenty million nights well, because that's the attention span 0:04:50.520 --> 0:04:52.960 now is like you got fifteen seconds entertained me. 0:04:54.080 --> 0:04:54.560 Oh man. 0:04:54.600 --> 0:04:58.839 So okay, so a two year kind of process the 0:04:58.960 --> 0:05:02.000 entire time going through. Were are you making friends? I 0:05:02.040 --> 0:05:03.640 mean you said the James that you were there from 0:05:03.960 --> 0:05:06.040 the beginning? So were you making friends with people where 0:05:06.040 --> 0:05:07.840 it's like we're going to do this show together and 0:05:07.880 --> 0:05:10.960 then they're gone and it's like, Okay, I guess we're 0:05:10.960 --> 0:05:11.400 going to go. 0:05:11.360 --> 0:05:12.240 To the next round. 0:05:12.800 --> 0:05:14.599 There are a couple people that I keep in touch 0:05:14.640 --> 0:05:16.200 with from then, So I don't want to say that 0:05:16.279 --> 0:05:19.120 I wasn't making friends, but I wasn't there to make friends, right, 0:05:19.160 --> 0:05:19.600 you know, we. 0:05:19.560 --> 0:05:22.240 Were there at audition like this was a life opportunity. 0:05:22.320 --> 0:05:25.560 So you're cool with everyone, but it's like the industry 0:05:25.640 --> 0:05:29.320 auditioning for yourself, so perhaps other people had to have 0:05:29.360 --> 0:05:30.400 different perspectives on it. 0:05:30.440 --> 0:05:32.640 But man, I mean we showed up and we're ready 0:05:32.640 --> 0:05:33.240 to work. Now. 0:05:33.279 --> 0:05:36.480 As it got further along, I think that changed a 0:05:36.560 --> 0:05:38.760 little bit. Like when there's you know, Logan and Carlos 0:05:38.800 --> 0:05:40.760 and the other guy were like, hey, this works pretty well. 0:05:40.800 --> 0:05:43.360 We felt it too, right, We're like, hey, something is working. 0:05:43.680 --> 0:05:46.440 And clearly, you know, three fourths of that worked well together. 0:05:47.279 --> 0:05:48.400 And so by the time. 0:05:48.240 --> 0:05:51.200 That Kendall came, he actually came back to the audition 0:05:51.360 --> 0:05:53.080 and he had known Logan. So there's a couple of 0:05:53.080 --> 0:05:56.280 little moments of I don't know if it's serendipity or 0:05:56.279 --> 0:05:58.920 coincidence or familiarity that we always want. 0:05:58.800 --> 0:06:01.599 Like we really like this pod, can we stick with 0:06:01.640 --> 0:06:02.039 this one? 0:06:02.120 --> 0:06:02.320 You know? 0:06:02.400 --> 0:06:04.520 So we did fight for it eventually. 0:06:05.080 --> 0:06:06.800 The beginning, you know, you were there just like, hey, 0:06:07.520 --> 0:06:08.960 tell me where you want me to go? You need 0:06:09.000 --> 0:06:11.440 me to dancing, like I want to get the jokes. 0:06:11.480 --> 0:06:12.920 How old were you guys? 0:06:13.839 --> 0:06:15.720 Oh, what was it like? Eighteen ninths? 0:06:15.760 --> 0:06:18.000 Okay, so what was your guys' life? 0:06:18.040 --> 0:06:21.920 Obviously you guys were you know, in the in the business, 0:06:22.000 --> 0:06:24.359 auditioning all the time. What was your kind of regular 0:06:24.400 --> 0:06:28.800 life before this band finally got the the final mold 0:06:28.839 --> 0:06:30.440 together and the magic happened. 0:06:31.800 --> 0:06:36.000 So I I had I had just done a a 0:06:36.000 --> 0:06:37.960 reality show called Making Manudo. 0:06:38.560 --> 0:06:41.440 They were trying to they were trying to remake Manudo. 0:06:41.640 --> 0:06:43.360 Oh my gosh, I remember this. 0:06:43.920 --> 0:06:46.400 It was called like Road to Manudo and then Making Manudo. 0:06:46.520 --> 0:06:49.599 But we ended up in a house or like a 0:06:49.760 --> 0:06:52.960 hotel in Miami for a whole summer, you know, dancing 0:06:53.040 --> 0:06:54.760 and singing and like you're doing the thing. And I 0:06:54.800 --> 0:06:57.360 got like seventh, you know, like I was like almost 0:06:57.520 --> 0:06:59.440 was seventh or eighth. I was like almost almost of 0:06:59.520 --> 0:07:02.240 the five. And I was really like bitter about the 0:07:02.240 --> 0:07:02.560 whole thing. 0:07:02.600 --> 0:07:04.800 So I was like, ah, screwboy bands. I'll never do boy. 0:07:04.640 --> 0:07:08.600 Bands again, like a really, really obnoxious seventeen year old, 0:07:08.680 --> 0:07:12.440 just like and then I get this audition. We go 0:07:12.520 --> 0:07:16.200 through the whole process and like James said, like we 0:07:16.200 --> 0:07:19.240 we we did a pilot, but there was a year 0:07:19.280 --> 0:07:22.600 between the pilot and shooting again, so we all basically 0:07:23.000 --> 0:07:23.720 like no one. 0:07:23.600 --> 0:07:27.120 Told us who they were recasting. So I go through all. 0:07:27.000 --> 0:07:28.960 This you know, trauma of this boy bed thing. I 0:07:29.000 --> 0:07:31.400 booked this thing and then it's like, cool, we'll call you. 0:07:31.800 --> 0:07:33.920 And then all we heard in the middle of this 0:07:34.080 --> 0:07:36.360 year was they're recasting someone. 0:07:36.840 --> 0:07:37.480 They didn't tell us. 0:07:37.520 --> 0:07:46.400 It's just a slow no y. So you weren't during 0:07:46.480 --> 0:07:49.160 the year you were. It wasn't like you were rehearsing 0:07:49.240 --> 0:07:49.960 and getting. 0:07:49.640 --> 0:07:53.680 To know you listen. I would put off. 0:07:53.840 --> 0:07:56.760 I would literally I went to the Boston Conservatory for 0:07:56.800 --> 0:07:58.400 a year, so I was like, I'm going to Broadway, 0:07:58.640 --> 0:08:00.560 but I still have to do all my regular classes. 0:08:00.600 --> 0:08:03.360 So I would put off doing like, you know, my essays, 0:08:03.360 --> 0:08:05.640 and I'd be like, dude, I just booked a TV. 0:08:05.440 --> 0:08:07.280 Show and they're gonna call me any minute, and. 0:08:07.240 --> 0:08:10.720 I'm gonna be and let me tell you. 0:08:10.920 --> 0:08:15.120 I finished the entire freshman year like but with that mentality, 0:08:15.440 --> 0:08:17.040 and then it'd be like the last week and I 0:08:17.040 --> 0:08:20.040 have to do all my paperwork and everything, but they 0:08:20.080 --> 0:08:22.600 called us, I think James what it was like July 0:08:23.240 --> 0:08:26.960 July of that next summer, so for me, right before 0:08:26.960 --> 0:08:29.800 going in for sophomore year, and they're like, hey, you're 0:08:29.840 --> 0:08:32.559 not the one that we're recasting, where I was just like, 0:08:32.760 --> 0:08:33.679 oh crap. 0:08:35.720 --> 0:08:39.720 One of the executives, Paula, who was the scariest one 0:08:39.720 --> 0:08:40.920 on the board then and now. 0:08:40.760 --> 0:08:43.560 She's like, you know, we love her. She we love her, 0:08:43.600 --> 0:08:44.080 She's like family. 0:08:44.120 --> 0:08:46.000 I mean, surely we did become, you know, like family 0:08:46.040 --> 0:08:47.719 with a lot of the people on our set. I 0:08:47.720 --> 0:08:50.520 got to say we had a great experience overall, but 0:08:50.520 --> 0:08:53.400 but objectively. And I've told her this and she didn't 0:08:53.400 --> 0:08:54.080 bat an eye. 0:08:54.240 --> 0:08:56.840 I'm like, you're the scariest lady I've ever met. 0:08:57.440 --> 0:09:00.280 We were up there and you would just scare not 0:09:00.360 --> 0:09:03.640 you know, unemotional, and just be like okay, thanks and 0:09:03.760 --> 0:09:05.640 like everyone else be smiling and happy and you weren't. 0:09:05.640 --> 0:09:07.720 And she'd go, I know, I'm good at my job. 0:09:09.440 --> 0:09:10.920 It's not the job, but. 0:09:10.800 --> 0:09:11.679 Anyways, I love her. 0:09:12.720 --> 0:09:14.880 She at one point casually was like, oh yeah, you 0:09:14.920 --> 0:09:16.400 had it since round one, And I was. 0:09:16.360 --> 0:09:19.760 Like, what you couldn't have told ball that to me? 0:09:20.400 --> 0:09:22.840 All times? I thought I had a job and lost 0:09:22.840 --> 0:09:24.280 a job. I had a job lost a job. 0:09:24.320 --> 0:09:26.800 So you know, we can laugh about it now, right, 0:09:26.880 --> 0:09:30.200 But you know, I was sleeping on couches to be 0:09:30.240 --> 0:09:30.600 in LA. 0:09:30.720 --> 0:09:32.840 I was driving up from sant I was just gonna 0:09:32.840 --> 0:09:34.160 ask if this was in LA. So this was in 0:09:34.200 --> 0:09:35.640 Los Angeles by this poor yeah. 0:09:35.600 --> 0:09:39.000 Okay, And it was at the point where I'm like, well, 0:09:39.640 --> 0:09:43.440 it's cost me so much in gas to get up here, Like, honestly, 0:09:43.480 --> 0:09:44.880 I think i'd save money if I just got a 0:09:44.880 --> 0:09:45.600 crappy apartment. 0:09:45.600 --> 0:09:47.720 I rented a room and I literally did that at seventeen. 0:09:47.840 --> 0:09:48.120 Wow. 0:09:48.280 --> 0:09:50.400 So I didn't go back and forth so much, and 0:09:50.480 --> 0:09:52.319 I was auditioning for other projects and there was one 0:09:52.320 --> 0:09:54.160 that came along. In fact, it was a Disney movie. 0:09:54.440 --> 0:09:56.599 I forget what it was. They came wrong, and I 0:09:56.640 --> 0:09:59.440 went to producers and I told my agents basically tell 0:09:59.440 --> 0:10:00.360 them I'm doing this. 0:10:00.600 --> 0:10:01.600 I need to work. 0:10:02.080 --> 0:10:03.880 And I remember it was that, I swear to god 0:10:03.880 --> 0:10:06.120 it was that same day or that same week the 0:10:06.160 --> 0:10:08.040 contract came through, Like, actually, we're ready to. 0:10:07.960 --> 0:10:08.640 Go with you guys. 0:10:08.640 --> 0:10:11.760 That's a nice you know, anything. 0:10:11.520 --> 0:10:12.000 To do with it. 0:10:12.040 --> 0:10:14.800 But I'm distinctly remembering like I'm kind of stuck in 0:10:14.840 --> 0:10:17.320 limbo with this thing, and like, I want to start 0:10:17.400 --> 0:10:20.320 my career, so you know, maybe I can thank Disney 0:10:20.360 --> 0:10:22.920 for getting me close to something else and there you go, Hey, 0:10:23.120 --> 0:10:25.920 nothing will get you signed to one of those companies, 0:10:26.000 --> 0:10:28.880 like the other company being interested in that, right, Hey, 0:10:28.880 --> 0:10:29.640 you really. 0:10:29.360 --> 0:10:31.720 You can't remember what Disney movie that was? 0:10:31.720 --> 0:10:32.199 Was it? 0:10:32.240 --> 0:10:32.960 Was it a dcon? 0:10:33.280 --> 0:10:33.600 Truly? 0:10:33.800 --> 0:10:33.960 Was it? 0:10:34.000 --> 0:10:34.920 For the channel? 0:10:37.160 --> 0:10:38.839 Sabrina's not gonna be able to write it. 0:10:39.760 --> 0:10:42.640 I gotta know, I can't remember like the lines in 0:10:42.679 --> 0:10:45.200 my head of like what we're doing in walking it. 0:10:45.400 --> 0:10:47.840 Okay, it might have been a Xeno. 0:10:48.160 --> 0:10:51.520 No, I don't know, it was way before. 0:10:52.040 --> 0:10:53.439 But there's like four xenos. 0:10:55.679 --> 0:10:57.640 This is gonna drive you guys crazy, And I promise 0:10:57.720 --> 0:11:00.839 you I'm never gonna think about this again for different people. 0:11:02.520 --> 0:11:03.920 We get it, we get it. 0:11:04.280 --> 0:11:06.120 Oh my, by the way, that same crappy apartment you 0:11:06.120 --> 0:11:08.080 rent it is now eleven thousand dollars a month and 0:11:08.640 --> 0:11:10.559 at least. 0:11:09.760 --> 0:11:12.480 And they haven't renovated. No, it's been exactly the same. 0:11:13.120 --> 0:11:20.360 The cost of living in la is crazy. 0:11:22.040 --> 0:11:24.920 So you finally they put they put you guys together 0:11:25.559 --> 0:11:28.360 and you come onto the set the first day you're 0:11:28.400 --> 0:11:28.920 all together. 0:11:29.040 --> 0:11:30.920 Did the music everything? 0:11:30.960 --> 0:11:33.320 Did it all just click right away? Or was this 0:11:33.400 --> 0:11:34.640 a real growth process? 0:11:34.880 --> 0:11:37.920 I mean, look it's no, it's no. 0:11:38.280 --> 0:11:41.559 Uh, it's we were trying to mimic the hand of 0:11:41.600 --> 0:11:43.960 Montana success. I mean, Nickelodeon was like, look look at 0:11:43.960 --> 0:11:45.360 Hannah Montana, how do you do it? 0:11:45.360 --> 0:11:45.840 With boys. 0:11:46.200 --> 0:11:48.520 Jonas had just had a TV show called Jonas, and 0:11:48.520 --> 0:11:49.439 it was like, how do we do this? 0:11:49.760 --> 0:11:51.920 They thought they came out. I thought their show came 0:11:51.960 --> 0:11:54.640 after ours, did it? I feel like it was then 0:11:54.679 --> 0:11:55.920 it was a band already. 0:11:56.080 --> 0:11:57.920 But anyways, it was very similar at the time. We 0:11:57.960 --> 0:12:01.040 just played to show them. By the way, super great, amazing. 0:12:00.960 --> 0:12:02.839 But we're not really brothers. A lot of people don't 0:12:02.840 --> 0:12:03.000 know that. 0:12:03.000 --> 0:12:09.680 They're just read it exactly. 0:12:10.960 --> 0:12:12.920 You see he's got the mustache, you see. 0:12:12.800 --> 0:12:15.200 James, we're trying to match. I was just outside, get 0:12:15.320 --> 0:12:16.640 some son, like we're gonna get there. 0:12:16.880 --> 0:12:19.240 Yeah, but we we. 0:12:18.760 --> 0:12:20.920 We came in and they had a bunch of music 0:12:20.960 --> 0:12:23.760 for us, so like there, their idea was, let's hire 0:12:24.040 --> 0:12:26.880 and pay whatever it costs for the biggest producers out there. 0:12:27.040 --> 0:12:29.520 I mean, we had a song with Desmond Child's, uh, 0:12:29.760 --> 0:12:33.000 Kevin Rudolph, like these huge people. But at the end 0:12:33.000 --> 0:12:36.840 of the day, it didn't feel like ours. It just 0:12:36.920 --> 0:12:39.280 kind of felt like, here's the song. Sing it, Candle, 0:12:39.320 --> 0:12:41.480 you sing this, James, you sing this, Carlos Logan boom 0:12:41.520 --> 0:12:44.160 bam boom. And that first season, look, it worked, it 0:12:44.200 --> 0:12:46.120 was great, but I think the four of us we 0:12:46.200 --> 0:12:48.319 really had a passion for writing music, and it kind 0:12:48.320 --> 0:12:51.120 of took everybody a little bit off guard because it 0:12:51.200 --> 0:12:52.680 was like, oh, you guys actually want to write stuff, 0:12:52.800 --> 0:12:55.599 like yeah, set up sessions, put us with good producers, 0:12:55.920 --> 0:12:58.440 and that second and third album we started writing and 0:12:58.520 --> 0:13:00.319 did most of the music, and then our new was 0:13:00.360 --> 0:13:02.120 in the episode and it kind of became this thing. 0:13:02.160 --> 0:13:05.200 And I think that's what ultimately led to our success. 0:13:05.240 --> 0:13:07.320 I feel like, if we had just let them send 0:13:07.400 --> 0:13:09.400 us songs and we cut it and we become this 0:13:09.440 --> 0:13:11.960 cookie cutter thing, but we didn't want that, and I 0:13:11.960 --> 0:13:13.360 think they didn't expect it. 0:13:13.400 --> 0:13:15.719 But it was good for everybody. But it also took 0:13:15.800 --> 0:13:16.960 us to a different level. 0:13:16.760 --> 0:13:20.120 Which you know, has had its it's not issues, but 0:13:20.200 --> 0:13:21.559 had its crazy time. 0:13:21.600 --> 0:13:24.280 And then we decided we wanted to have less time. Basically, yeah, 0:13:24.320 --> 0:13:24.640 there you go. 0:13:25.760 --> 0:13:31.000 I actually and we had We had a very successful 0:13:31.679 --> 0:13:33.480 an R. We first started this a guy named Jay 0:13:33.559 --> 0:13:38.920 Landers sold one hundred million records. I think Jay, oh yeah, 0:13:39.120 --> 0:13:42.360 it was our original A and R. And his assistant was 0:13:42.400 --> 0:13:44.679 Maria Egan. He has had a tremendous success on her 0:13:44.679 --> 0:13:46.360 own since then, but she was just working for Jay 0:13:46.400 --> 0:13:47.959 at the time and she kind of took over and 0:13:47.960 --> 0:13:49.600 they had a very different idea of how the band 0:13:49.600 --> 0:13:52.400 should go. But Jay always said, and I honestly think 0:13:52.400 --> 0:13:55.400 he was right at the time, that if he we 0:13:55.559 --> 0:13:58.040 just let him and you know, Sony Columbia go and 0:13:58.040 --> 0:14:00.319 find the biggest songs and not an anything to do 0:14:00.320 --> 0:14:01.839 with the writing, that the project. 0:14:01.600 --> 0:14:02.360 Would have been bigger. 0:14:02.400 --> 0:14:05.480 And you know what, I think that's actually true at 0:14:05.520 --> 0:14:07.360 that time, at the beginning. 0:14:07.679 --> 0:14:10.360 But to Carlos's point, I don't think. 0:14:10.240 --> 0:14:12.160 We would have ever had an opportunity to come back 0:14:12.240 --> 0:14:15.560 and build the band up like we have because we 0:14:15.720 --> 0:14:19.600 actually did create what the band was. It was authentically us, 0:14:20.000 --> 0:14:22.280 from starting from learning how to write, then getting pretty 0:14:22.280 --> 0:14:23.720 good to learning how to put on a show. So 0:14:23.760 --> 0:14:25.560 now dare I say we play with the best of them. 0:14:25.600 --> 0:14:27.240 We're damn good at that, and we're proud. 0:14:27.080 --> 0:14:29.040 To say it. We've done you know, thousands of shows 0:14:29.040 --> 0:14:29.720 at this point. 0:14:29.520 --> 0:14:33.440 Probably, And I think that led to the future that 0:14:33.440 --> 0:14:35.080 none of us could have predicted, which is we took 0:14:35.120 --> 0:14:38.040 a big break. They let the brand go dormant, they 0:14:38.040 --> 0:14:41.200 didn't really service it. Then the Spotify was hacked. When 0:14:41.200 --> 0:14:42.880 we came back in and said. 0:14:42.920 --> 0:14:49.560 Luigi had it so seriously and he was promoting his 0:14:49.680 --> 0:14:51.320 own music on our spotify. 0:14:51.520 --> 0:14:54.040 Oh my god, yeah, we probably should hire him. 0:14:54.040 --> 0:14:56.760 We've joked about it, but you know, but you know, 0:14:57.240 --> 0:15:00.640 to close the loop on this, you know, when we 0:15:00.680 --> 0:15:02.680 brought it back, we had no concept of whether it 0:15:02.720 --> 0:15:04.560 would work or not, nor could we predict it to be 0:15:04.560 --> 0:15:06.400 bigger now than it was then. And by just about 0:15:06.440 --> 0:15:09.320 any metric, it is. And it's because we actually are 0:15:09.320 --> 0:15:11.600 a band. Yeah, because we actually went figured it out 0:15:11.600 --> 0:15:13.080 and now this is round two of doing it. 0:15:13.120 --> 0:15:15.880 So yeah, it's pretty wilda I think there is. 0:15:15.920 --> 0:15:18.880 That's so much to say about how you guys took 0:15:18.920 --> 0:15:21.400 it from Like you said, what could have been cookie cutter, 0:15:21.440 --> 0:15:23.239 but instead. 0:15:21.960 --> 0:15:23.120 You molded it. 0:15:23.160 --> 0:15:26.880 You molded who each not character, but each bandmate was 0:15:27.000 --> 0:15:30.400 like what were their best you know, what they brought 0:15:30.480 --> 0:15:33.760 to the band. And I think fans, especially during the 0:15:33.760 --> 0:15:36.760 time you guys came out, had already seen so many 0:15:37.080 --> 0:15:40.560 variations of it. They saw even with Miley, Miley wanted 0:15:40.600 --> 0:15:43.360 to take more control of her career and starting to 0:15:43.400 --> 0:15:45.200 write and being a part of that process. And so 0:15:45.640 --> 0:15:47.680 if you hadn't done that, they really wouldn't have bought 0:15:47.720 --> 0:15:50.440 into it. Instead, they bought into what you guys really 0:15:50.480 --> 0:15:53.040 brought from your heart and who you guys were as 0:15:53.360 --> 0:15:54.360 bandmates to each other. 0:15:54.400 --> 0:15:57.560 And that's like amazing and brilliant. By the way, good 0:15:57.640 --> 0:15:58.080 job guys. 0:15:58.080 --> 0:16:00.760 That was like pretty I. 0:16:00.800 --> 0:16:04.280 Bet you if we tried to do that same if 0:16:04.280 --> 0:16:07.040 somebody tried to do that same exact formula again, these 0:16:07.120 --> 0:16:10.120 create these execs are smart enough now to not let 0:16:10.160 --> 0:16:14.000 people do. 0:16:11.920 --> 0:16:13.080 Do what we did. 0:16:14.480 --> 0:16:16.280 We were so lucky at the time that it was 0:16:16.360 --> 0:16:17.920 kind of new and it was like, okay, well let 0:16:18.000 --> 0:16:21.880 them do this and let them explore. Like I constantly 0:16:21.960 --> 0:16:25.640 have to remind ourselves, like back then, we literally worked 0:16:25.640 --> 0:16:28.000 for them no matter what, Like we were still an 0:16:28.080 --> 0:16:29.520 employee of whatever it. 0:16:29.640 --> 0:16:33.760 Was the right they owned everything, and you know, we 0:16:33.760 --> 0:16:36.440 weren't getting paid a percentage of the gross, like we 0:16:36.480 --> 0:16:39.240 had our weekly salary, we went on tour, had our 0:16:39.280 --> 0:16:40.680 weekly salary and all this stuff. 0:16:40.760 --> 0:16:43.600 To come now ten fifteen years later and here we 0:16:43.640 --> 0:16:46.760 are and now we run the show. It's really weird 0:16:46.800 --> 0:16:49.560 because I think about, hey, how much money those guys 0:16:49.560 --> 0:16:53.920