Speaker 1: Thank you everybody so much for joining us on this
Speaker 1: park hopper episode of Magical Rewind. And this really is
Speaker 1: a hopper because we're not only hopping from movies to music,
Speaker 1: but we're also hopping networks, which we've never done before.
Speaker 1: We're hopping from Disney to Nickelodeon, which is the reverse
Speaker 1: of what I did.
Speaker 2: I hoped Nickelodeon to Disney.
Speaker 3: Yeah that's true.
Speaker 2: But I'm we're going backwards, so I'm.
Speaker 4: Into it, opening up another door for us guys here onway.
Speaker 1: You everything we can talk about here.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So we're very excited because this band, I guess we
Speaker 1: should say because they're also actors, but this band is
Speaker 1: making a comeback and I think going on.
Speaker 3: Tour, yes, big tour.
Speaker 1: So we are very very excited. We have two of
Speaker 1: the members here, so two of the four pretty to
Speaker 1: have both James and Carlos from Big Time Rush, so
Speaker 1: help us welcome them. Hi, how are you both doing?
Speaker 1: Thank you for joining us.
Speaker 5: Get out of here, of course doing.
Speaker 2: We're good. We're so excited.
Speaker 1: You you're our first ever to jump ship and be
Speaker 1: from Nickelodeon. We were strictly Disney, but we were like,
Speaker 1: we can't not talk to you guys.
Speaker 2: You know what, there's always room for improvement.
Speaker 4: No, okay, we're starting this morning off with some fighting words.
Speaker 1: I was saying, this is we normally do Disney and
Speaker 1: then go and now we're going to Nickelodeon, which is
Speaker 1: the reverse of what I did, because I started on
Speaker 1: Nickelodeon and then went to the channel. I did what
Speaker 1: I was an old school Nickelodeon. I got slimmed on
Speaker 1: Nickelodeon back in the ear. That's how Nickelodeon I was,
Speaker 1: Yes see, but like for.
Speaker 6: So, I mean listen, full disclosure a huge fan, like, oh,
Speaker 6: thank you, we're talking with you. But what were you
Speaker 6: on Nickelodeon.
Speaker 1: I was on a show called Don't Just Sit There
Speaker 1: for three years where we were like a young Saturday
Speaker 1: Night Live. We had special guests and a band and
Speaker 1: all that cool kind of stuff.
Speaker 5: So yeah, so is this like before all that?
Speaker 1: Oh way before this was in nineteen eighty seven, I
Speaker 1: went up and was on the original you Can't Do
Speaker 1: That on television in Canada and had the slime.
Speaker 2: Drop on me and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah, old you were like og og og Nickelodeon. But
Speaker 1: we're not here to talk about me. We can if
Speaker 1: you'd like. But there's so much going on for you
Speaker 1: guys right now, not just what you've been through, but
Speaker 1: you've got a whole bunch of new stuff coming up.
Speaker 2: I don't even know where to No, let's start at
Speaker 2: the beginning, Sabrina.
Speaker 1: We always do that, Start at the beginning.
Speaker 2: Let's start at the beginning, big time.
Speaker 1: Rush, Can you tell us a little bit about how
Speaker 1: you heard about this project? Was this were you singers
Speaker 1: that then were also actors? Were you actors that were
Speaker 1: also singers? Was this just a regular audition?
Speaker 6: Take us through everything, dude, I feel like every actor
Speaker 6: is like, I'll do it.
Speaker 7: I sin, I dance, I juggle.
Speaker 3: It's on my resume. It's on my resume.
Speaker 6: Me like back in the day when you would load
Speaker 6: up your resume and you're like, I can juggle, I
Speaker 6: can do.
Speaker 2: This horseback ride.
Speaker 8: Sure, yeah, right, exactly, Yeah, I could do any accent
Speaker 8: in the world.
Speaker 1: It just had all dialects and it's okay, that's fine, But.
Speaker 8: It was for us, it was literally an audition. It
Speaker 8: was a pretty crazy process. I know, every screen test
Speaker 8: and you know, look to get on any TV show
Speaker 8: is not an easy feat and often a crazy process,
Speaker 8: but this one in particular was two years where we
Speaker 8: all came in at different times. Logan and I were
Speaker 8: in the first round of auditions.
Speaker 2: They ever did.
Speaker 8: They took thousands of people from across the country, blew
Speaker 8: us in for that one, and I think the next
Speaker 8: two or three and hey, can you sing?
Speaker 2: Catch you with a singing coach? Can you dance? Get
Speaker 2: you the dancing coach? Can you act?
Speaker 8: They'd put us together in pairs of four, and we
Speaker 8: did a whole screen test, then they recast, did it again,
Speaker 8: then they recast.
Speaker 2: Carlos, you're in the second or third, third round of that.
Speaker 8: Yeah, and then they picked four of us that didn't
Speaker 8: include Kendall. We shot a whole million dollar pilot without
Speaker 8: Kendle with another chapter, and then they.
Speaker 2: Said, yeah, it's good, but it could be better. Let's
Speaker 2: recast again.
Speaker 8: Oh oh, I mean, I'll say all that to say that,
Speaker 8: you know, we were hopeful after two years and four
Speaker 8: rounds of screens ask that this would work, and it
Speaker 8: could have not worked, but luckily it turned out to
Speaker 8: be the biggest live action premiere in the history of Nickelodeon.
Speaker 6: And I was back when people watched TV. I mean
Speaker 6: remember that, you guys. I mean, like y'all were you
Speaker 6: guys were in the prime of when kids actually tuned in.
Speaker 6: But for us, I think we got something like fourteen
Speaker 6: million kids just huge watching watching the premiere. Now you're
Speaker 6: lucky to get.
Speaker 5: Half a million. That's terrible.
Speaker 8: That's like, but you do a good TikTok and you
Speaker 8: get twenty million nights well, because that's the attention span
Speaker 8: now is like you got fifteen seconds entertained me.
Speaker 2: Oh man.
Speaker 1: So okay, so a two year kind of process the
Speaker 1: entire time going through. Were are you making friends? I
Speaker 1: mean you said the James that you were there from
Speaker 1: the beginning? So were you making friends with people where
Speaker 1: it's like we're going to do this show together and
Speaker 1: then they're gone and it's like, Okay, I guess we're
Speaker 1: going to go.
Speaker 2: To the next round.
Speaker 8: There are a couple people that I keep in touch
Speaker 8: with from then, So I don't want to say that
Speaker 8: I wasn't making friends, but I wasn't there to make friends, right,
Speaker 8: you know, we.
Speaker 2: Were there at audition like this was a life opportunity.
Speaker 8: So you're cool with everyone, but it's like the industry
Speaker 8: auditioning for yourself, so perhaps other people had to have
Speaker 8: different perspectives on it.
Speaker 2: But man, I mean we showed up and we're ready
Speaker 2: to work. Now.
Speaker 8: As it got further along, I think that changed a
Speaker 8: little bit. Like when there's you know, Logan and Carlos
Speaker 8: and the other guy were like, hey, this works pretty well.
Speaker 8: We felt it too, right, We're like, hey, something is working.
Speaker 8: And clearly, you know, three fourths of that worked well together.
Speaker 2: And so by the time.
Speaker 8: That Kendall came, he actually came back to the audition
Speaker 8: and he had known Logan. So there's a couple of
Speaker 8: little moments of I don't know if it's serendipity or
Speaker 8: coincidence or familiarity that we always want.
Speaker 2: Like we really like this pod, can we stick with
Speaker 2: this one?
Speaker 5: You know?
Speaker 2: So we did fight for it eventually.
Speaker 8: The beginning, you know, you were there just like, hey,
Speaker 8: tell me where you want me to go? You need
Speaker 8: me to dancing, like I want to get the jokes.
Speaker 3: How old were you guys?
Speaker 5: Oh, what was it like? Eighteen ninths?
Speaker 3: Okay, so what was your guys' life?
Speaker 4: Obviously you guys were you know, in the in the business,
Speaker 4: auditioning all the time. What was your kind of regular
Speaker 4: life before this band finally got the the final mold
Speaker 4: together and the magic happened.
Speaker 6: So I I had I had just done a a
Speaker 6: reality show called Making Manudo.
Speaker 7: They were trying to they were trying to remake Manudo.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I remember this.
Speaker 7: It was called like Road to Manudo and then Making Manudo.
Speaker 6: But we ended up in a house or like a
Speaker 6: hotel in Miami for a whole summer, you know, dancing
Speaker 6: and singing and like you're doing the thing. And I
Speaker 6: got like seventh, you know, like I was like almost
Speaker 6: was seventh or eighth. I was like almost almost of
Speaker 6: the five. And I was really like bitter about the
Speaker 6: whole thing.
Speaker 5: So I was like, ah, screwboy bands. I'll never do boy.
Speaker 6: Bands again, like a really, really obnoxious seventeen year old,
Speaker 6: just like and then I get this audition. We go
Speaker 6: through the whole process and like James said, like we
Speaker 6: we we did a pilot, but there was a year
Speaker 6: between the pilot and shooting again, so we all basically
Speaker 6: like no one.
Speaker 5: Told us who they were recasting. So I go through all.
Speaker 6: This you know, trauma of this boy bed thing. I
Speaker 6: booked this thing and then it's like, cool, we'll call you.
Speaker 6: And then all we heard in the middle of this
Speaker 6: year was they're recasting someone.
Speaker 5: They didn't tell us.
Speaker 2: It's just a slow no y. So you weren't during
Speaker 2: the year you were. It wasn't like you were rehearsing
Speaker 2: and getting.
Speaker 5: To know you listen. I would put off.
Speaker 6: I would literally I went to the Boston Conservatory for
Speaker 6: a year, so I was like, I'm going to Broadway,
Speaker 6: but I still have to do all my regular classes.
Speaker 6: So I would put off doing like, you know, my essays,
Speaker 6: and I'd be like, dude, I just booked a TV.
Speaker 7: Show and they're gonna call me any minute, and.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna be and let me tell you.
Speaker 6: I finished the entire freshman year like but with that mentality,
Speaker 6: and then it'd be like the last week and I
Speaker 6: have to do all my paperwork and everything, but they
Speaker 6: called us, I think James what it was like July
Speaker 6: July of that next summer, so for me, right before
Speaker 6: going in for sophomore year, and they're like, hey, you're
Speaker 6: not the one that we're recasting, where I was just like,
Speaker 6: oh crap.
Speaker 8: One of the executives, Paula, who was the scariest one
Speaker 8: on the board then and now.
Speaker 2: She's like, you know, we love her. She we love her,
Speaker 2: She's like family.
Speaker 8: I mean, surely we did become, you know, like family
Speaker 8: with a lot of the people on our set. I
Speaker 8: got to say we had a great experience overall, but
Speaker 8: but objectively. And I've told her this and she didn't
Speaker 8: bat an eye.
Speaker 2: I'm like, you're the scariest lady I've ever met.
Speaker 8: We were up there and you would just scare not
Speaker 8: you know, unemotional, and just be like okay, thanks and
Speaker 8: like everyone else be smiling and happy and you weren't.
Speaker 8: And she'd go, I know, I'm good at my job.
Speaker 5: It's not the job, but.
Speaker 2: Anyways, I love her.
Speaker 8: She at one point casually was like, oh yeah, you
Speaker 8: had it since round one, And I was.
Speaker 2: Like, what you couldn't have told ball that to me?
Speaker 2: All times? I thought I had a job and lost
Speaker 2: a job. I had a job lost a job.
Speaker 8: So you know, we can laugh about it now, right,
Speaker 8: But you know, I was sleeping on couches to be
Speaker 8: in LA.
Speaker 2: I was driving up from sant I was just gonna
Speaker 2: ask if this was in LA. So this was in
Speaker 2: Los Angeles by this poor yeah.
Speaker 8: Okay, And it was at the point where I'm like, well,
Speaker 8: it's cost me so much in gas to get up here, Like, honestly,
Speaker 8: I think i'd save money if I just got a
Speaker 8: crappy apartment.
Speaker 2: I rented a room and I literally did that at seventeen.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 8: So I didn't go back and forth so much, and
Speaker 8: I was auditioning for other projects and there was one
Speaker 8: that came along. In fact, it was a Disney movie.
Speaker 8: I forget what it was. They came wrong, and I
Speaker 8: went to producers and I told my agents basically tell
Speaker 8: them I'm doing this.
Speaker 2: I need to work.
Speaker 8: And I remember it was that, I swear to god
Speaker 8: it was that same day or that same week the
Speaker 8: contract came through, Like, actually, we're ready to.
Speaker 2: Go with you guys.
Speaker 5: That's a nice you know, anything.
Speaker 2: To do with it.
Speaker 8: But I'm distinctly remembering like I'm kind of stuck in
Speaker 8: limbo with this thing, and like, I want to start
Speaker 8: my career, so you know, maybe I can thank Disney
Speaker 8: for getting me close to something else and there you go, Hey,
Speaker 8: nothing will get you signed to one of those companies,
Speaker 8: like the other company being interested in that, right, Hey,
Speaker 8: you really.
Speaker 3: You can't remember what Disney movie that was?
Speaker 1: Was it?
Speaker 3: Was it a dcon?
Speaker 2: Truly?
Speaker 5: Was it?
Speaker 3: For the channel?
Speaker 2: Sabrina's not gonna be able to write it.
Speaker 8: I gotta know, I can't remember like the lines in
Speaker 8: my head of like what we're doing in walking it.
Speaker 2: Okay, it might have been a Xeno.
Speaker 5: No, I don't know, it was way before.
Speaker 2: But there's like four xenos.
Speaker 8: This is gonna drive you guys crazy, And I promise
Speaker 8: you I'm never gonna think about this again for different people.
Speaker 3: We get it, we get it.
Speaker 1: Oh my, by the way, that same crappy apartment you
Speaker 1: rent it is now eleven thousand dollars a month and
Speaker 1: at least.
Speaker 2: And they haven't renovated. No, it's been exactly the same.
Speaker 2: The cost of living in la is crazy.
Speaker 1: So you finally they put they put you guys together
Speaker 1: and you come onto the set the first day you're
Speaker 1: all together.
Speaker 2: Did the music everything?
Speaker 1: Did it all just click right away? Or was this
Speaker 1: a real growth process?
Speaker 5: I mean, look it's no, it's no.
Speaker 6: Uh, it's we were trying to mimic the hand of
Speaker 6: Montana success. I mean, Nickelodeon was like, look look at
Speaker 6: Hannah Montana, how do you do it?
Speaker 5: With boys.
Speaker 6: Jonas had just had a TV show called Jonas, and
Speaker 6: it was like, how do we do this?
Speaker 2: They thought they came out. I thought their show came
Speaker 2: after ours, did it? I feel like it was then
Speaker 2: it was a band already.
Speaker 8: But anyways, it was very similar at the time. We
Speaker 8: just played to show them. By the way, super great, amazing.
Speaker 1: But we're not really brothers. A lot of people don't
Speaker 1: know that.
Speaker 2: They're just read it exactly.
Speaker 5: You see he's got the mustache, you see.
Speaker 8: James, we're trying to match. I was just outside, get
Speaker 8: some son, like we're gonna get there.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but we we.
Speaker 6: We came in and they had a bunch of music
Speaker 6: for us, so like there, their idea was, let's hire
Speaker 6: and pay whatever it costs for the biggest producers out there.
Speaker 6: I mean, we had a song with Desmond Child's, uh,
Speaker 6: Kevin Rudolph, like these huge people. But at the end
Speaker 6: of the day, it didn't feel like ours. It just
Speaker 6: kind of felt like, here's the song. Sing it, Candle,
Speaker 6: you sing this, James, you sing this, Carlos Logan boom
Speaker 6: bam boom. And that first season, look, it worked, it
Speaker 6: was great, but I think the four of us we
Speaker 6: really had a passion for writing music, and it kind
Speaker 6: of took everybody a little bit off guard because it
Speaker 6: was like, oh, you guys actually want to write stuff,
Speaker 6: like yeah, set up sessions, put us with good producers,
Speaker 6: and that second and third album we started writing and
Speaker 6: did most of the music, and then our new was
Speaker 6: in the episode and it kind of became this thing.
Speaker 6: And I think that's what ultimately led to our success.
Speaker 6: I feel like, if we had just let them send
Speaker 6: us songs and we cut it and we become this
Speaker 6: cookie cutter thing, but we didn't want that, and I
Speaker 6: think they didn't expect it.
Speaker 5: But it was good for everybody. But it also took
Speaker 5: us to a different level.
Speaker 6: Which you know, has had its it's not issues, but
Speaker 6: had its crazy time.
Speaker 2: And then we decided we wanted to have less time. Basically, yeah,
Speaker 2: there you go.
Speaker 8: I actually and we had We had a very successful
Speaker 8: an R. We first started this a guy named Jay
Speaker 8: Landers sold one hundred million records. I think Jay, oh yeah,
Speaker 8: it was our original A and R. And his assistant was
Speaker 8: Maria Egan. He has had a tremendous success on her
Speaker 8: own since then, but she was just working for Jay
Speaker 8: at the time and she kind of took over and
Speaker 8: they had a very different idea of how the band
Speaker 8: should go. But Jay always said, and I honestly think
Speaker 8: he was right at the time, that if he we
Speaker 8: just let him and you know, Sony Columbia go and
Speaker 8: find the biggest songs and not an anything to do
Speaker 8: with the writing, that the project.
Speaker 2: Would have been bigger.
Speaker 8: And you know what, I think that's actually true at
Speaker 8: that time, at the beginning.
Speaker 2: But to Carlos's point, I don't think.
Speaker 8: We would have ever had an opportunity to come back
Speaker 8: and build the band up like we have because we
Speaker 8: actually did create what the band was. It was authentically us,
Speaker 8: from starting from learning how to write, then getting pretty
Speaker 8: good to learning how to put on a show. So
Speaker 8: now dare I say we play with the best of them.
Speaker 8: We're damn good at that, and we're proud.
Speaker 2: To say it. We've done you know, thousands of shows
Speaker 2: at this point.
Speaker 8: Probably, And I think that led to the future that
Speaker 8: none of us could have predicted, which is we took
Speaker 8: a big break. They let the brand go dormant, they
Speaker 8: didn't really service it. Then the Spotify was hacked. When
Speaker 8: we came back in and said.
Speaker 6: Luigi had it so seriously and he was promoting his
Speaker 6: own music on our spotify.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, yeah, we probably should hire him.
Speaker 8: We've joked about it, but you know, but you know,
Speaker 8: to close the loop on this, you know, when we
Speaker 8: brought it back, we had no concept of whether it
Speaker 8: would work or not, nor could we predict it to be
Speaker 8: bigger now than it was then. And by just about
Speaker 8: any metric, it is. And it's because we actually are
Speaker 8: a band. Yeah, because we actually went figured it out
Speaker 8: and now this is round two of doing it.
Speaker 2: So yeah, it's pretty wilda I think there is.
Speaker 4: That's so much to say about how you guys took
Speaker 4: it from Like you said, what could have been cookie cutter,
Speaker 4: but instead.
Speaker 3: You molded it.
Speaker 4: You molded who each not character, but each bandmate was
Speaker 4: like what were their best you know, what they brought
Speaker 4: to the band. And I think fans, especially during the
Speaker 4: time you guys came out, had already seen so many
Speaker 4: variations of it. They saw even with Miley, Miley wanted
Speaker 4: to take more control of her career and starting to
Speaker 4: write and being a part of that process. And so
Speaker 4: if you hadn't done that, they really wouldn't have bought
Speaker 4: into it. Instead, they bought into what you guys really
Speaker 4: brought from your heart and who you guys were as
Speaker 4: bandmates to each other.
Speaker 3: And that's like amazing and brilliant. By the way, good
Speaker 3: job guys.
Speaker 1: That was like pretty I.
Speaker 6: Bet you if we tried to do that same if
Speaker 6: somebody tried to do that same exact formula again, these
Speaker 6: create these execs are smart enough now to not let
Speaker 6: people do.
Speaker 5: Do what we did.
Speaker 6: We were so lucky at the time that it was
Speaker 6: kind of new and it was like, okay, well let
Speaker 6: them do this and let them explore. Like I constantly
Speaker 6: have to remind ourselves, like back then, we literally worked
Speaker 6: for them no matter what, Like we were still an
Speaker 6: employee of whatever it.
Speaker 9: Was the right they owned everything, and you know, we
Speaker 9: weren't getting paid a percentage of the gross, like we
Speaker 9: had our weekly salary, we went on tour, had our
Speaker 9: weekly salary and all this stuff.
Speaker 6: To come now ten fifteen years later and here we
Speaker 6: are and now we run the show. It's really weird
Speaker 6: because I think about, hey, how much money those guys
Speaker 6: made back then and it was way different, but be like,
Speaker 6: nobody's going to get that opportunity again.
Speaker 7: And we were so lucky and we were so lucky.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you find that with everything.
Speaker 1: I mean even nowadays you find something as small as well,
Speaker 1: I say small and with a capital or small ass
Speaker 1: podcasting where if you do a show, you sign a contract.
Speaker 1: Now where it's like, oh, if you ever do a
Speaker 1: podcast based on this show, we get x them. I
Speaker 1: mean it's things they weren't expecting to happen. Now somebody
Speaker 1: does it. They're successful at it. Oh we need a
Speaker 1: piece of that as well. It's just the normal way
Speaker 1: of the business. But you're talking about your fans. So
Speaker 1: I'm curious. You said you had the biggest premiere for
Speaker 1: a live action show in Nickelodeon history.
Speaker 2: Huge.
Speaker 1: How does your life change after that show comes out?
Speaker 5: The girls just start coming, man.
Speaker 3: I bet they were flocking like Sae.
Speaker 2: In case they were already there. So that's.
Speaker 5: I was a Latino boy from South Florida.
Speaker 6: This was like because, like James, it was right around Thanksgiving,
Speaker 6: right when we first yeah, like first premiere something.
Speaker 5: I was home.
Speaker 6: I was home and my mom threw a party in
Speaker 6: all my high schoo friends came and everyone was just like,
Speaker 6: oh my gosh.
Speaker 5: And I was like, this is cool.
Speaker 2: But outside of that. Like we've we've talked about this
Speaker 2: a few times over the years. We didn't fully.
Speaker 8: Grass the size of the situation or how life had
Speaker 8: changed that much because we were too busy, like ye
Speaker 8: straight up, yeah, okay, we'd hear these numbers like biggest premiere,
Speaker 8: and then we go back to filming the show, you know,
Speaker 8: and we hear you know, this thing, and we'd play
Speaker 8: our show then go back.
Speaker 2: We wouldn't, you know.
Speaker 8: We didn't have days off for years at a time,
Speaker 8: and we learned, oh, we could ask for Sunday off,
Speaker 8: and we eventually found a little bit more of a balance.
Speaker 2: But truthfully, we also needed that big break after seven
Speaker 2: years of doing this, whatever the time frame was.
Speaker 8: And again I look at all this as you know,
Speaker 8: a bit of God's plan blessing into skies. We were
Speaker 8: here because of that past, good and bad, and so
Speaker 8: they're not complaining about it, but we didn't fully recognize
Speaker 8: the size of it, probably well maybe at least before
Speaker 8: our first show. Like actors get stopped in the street
Speaker 8: in a while, when musicians show up, I have ten
Speaker 8: twenty thousand people screaming at them. Yeah, that is a
Speaker 8: seismic shift of like our first show was not that many.
Speaker 4: You know, I was gonna I was gonna ask you
Speaker 4: what were your first shows like and how did they build?
Speaker 4: Like I know, with us, two different things obviously the
Speaker 4: size of fans, but also the budget. Like Disney with
Speaker 4: the Cheetah Girls, we went on a first like Christmas tour.
Speaker 4: We put out a Christmas album and our set broke
Speaker 4: on the way to the first show because it was
Speaker 4: so it was like so bad and I mean again,
Speaker 4: we had the best time.
Speaker 1: Didn't care.
Speaker 3: They fixed it. We gotta, we got a thing whatever.
Speaker 4: But it went from that to them like I think
Speaker 4: of what we had on our third, our third tour,
Speaker 4: and it was like, you know, because of the success,
Speaker 4: Like what was that like for you guys? Did you
Speaker 4: guys start How small did it start for your first
Speaker 4: couple of shows? Cause those are fun too to think about.
Speaker 6: Well, our first ever, which so so it's a two
Speaker 6: part question. So our first ever was not a small show.
Speaker 6: They did a special in the middle of Times Square.
Speaker 6: They spent a million dollars built of stage and and.
Speaker 5: We were like it was it was nuts And I
Speaker 5: watch it.
Speaker 6: Back now and I'm like, dang, we sucked. Like that
Speaker 6: was terrible, not a great first show. But our first
Speaker 6: like real show was a radio show that we headlined
Speaker 6: in Henderson, Nevada. And it was so like, we're headlining
Speaker 6: this radio show. We only knew fifteen minutes of music.
Speaker 2: It was four or songs, it was. It was that's
Speaker 2: all we have.
Speaker 6: And I remember, like we were so fun, we were
Speaker 6: so nervous, and we go out and we're in Henderson, Nevada.
Speaker 6: We're like, freak, our first big show. We do our
Speaker 6: fifteen minutes and leave and everyone's.
Speaker 5: Like that's it, and we're like, we.
Speaker 2: Don't have anything going. We don't know anything. You don't know.
Speaker 2: We never knew we needed it all.
Speaker 3: So it was in charge of you.
Speaker 4: Who did you guys have then, because I feel like
Speaker 4: whoever was in charge should have said, like, let's let's
Speaker 4: do in between these two songs we're gonna do.
Speaker 3: We're gonna fill it, like.
Speaker 2: We don't have that manager anymore.
Speaker 4: Okay, start smart, Yeah, okay, okay, all right, I get
Speaker 4: it out.
Speaker 6: Okay we we we didn't again, like you just go
Speaker 6: back to like we didn't really have control over it,
Speaker 6: and no one really knew what this was. Like Nickelodeon
Speaker 6: had never done this, so they were like they were
Speaker 6: going out trying to hire the best people Sony Columbia,
Speaker 6: help us out this and that.
Speaker 7: So everybody learned as we went pigs.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and there's there's one summer that I'll never forget
Speaker 6: is James and I don't remember. It was our second
Speaker 6: or third big tour, but we had started like seeing
Speaker 6: how big this thing was, and we were working. I
Speaker 6: mean one summer we did seventy four seventy five shows.
Speaker 5: Like back to back to back to back.
Speaker 7: We don't like, I mean crazy, it was crazy.
Speaker 5: It was crazy.
Speaker 8: I mean five six shows in a row. I think
Speaker 8: we did seven in a row or eight in a row. Yeah, day,
Speaker 8: which we just won't we won't do to our bodies anymore.
Speaker 1: No, yeah, wouldn't that just shred your voice?
Speaker 2: But I'm everything.
Speaker 6: Were twenty one years old, so they're like screw it,
Speaker 6: and we were here, top of our lives.
Speaker 7: But but I remember this was the tour that we
Speaker 7: kind of made a little stink.
Speaker 6: It was a little to little tea and we said, hey,
Speaker 6: we would like to participate in more than just these
Speaker 6: like weekly salaries, like we're seeing this and they were like, Okay,
Speaker 6: no problem.
Speaker 5: So we did this split with them, but this was
Speaker 5: so fast.
Speaker 2: We're like, why did we asked for this before?
Speaker 1: Yeah, but like I'm amazed it took you guys this long.
Speaker 2: Of course you can learn.
Speaker 5: Here's here's where we screwed up.
Speaker 6: This was the tour that they were like, fine, since
Speaker 6: we're all, you know, three way partners on this Nickelodeon
Speaker 6: Columbia and you guys, what do.
Speaker 5: You guys want on the show?
Speaker 7: We're like, we want this, we want to lift, we
Speaker 7: want Pyro, we want.
Speaker 5: This, and they were like, no problem.
Speaker 6: And then at the end of the tour when it
Speaker 6: came time to get our check, I was like, we
Speaker 6: did one.
Speaker 5: Hundred show, where's the money?
Speaker 7: And they were like, oh, they took it out of
Speaker 7: years sent it.
Speaker 2: Got gross and some parties got there.
Speaker 6: We don't understand the different right at twenty one, you
Speaker 6: didn't understand how that worked.
Speaker 5: But we learned.
Speaker 6: So, I mean, it sucked, but it was such a
Speaker 6: blessing to like, actually do what we love make make
Speaker 6: could still make good money, but learn how this business
Speaker 6: works because people are getting to take advantage.
Speaker 5: Of the left.
Speaker 4: You know, I love you brought that up because so
Speaker 4: many people don't understand out there, like when bands go
Speaker 4: out and like how you can have a band that's
Speaker 4: just epic, but then things like that happen and they
Speaker 4: end up the back end. Nobody really really realizes what
Speaker 4: the back end ends up being for bands and why it.
Speaker 8: Yeah, really, label deals and label advanced are extremely complicated.
Speaker 8: Jelly Roll was talking about this recently and he broke
Speaker 8: it down pretty simply, and it's like, let's say that
Speaker 8: you have a seventy thirty splay, which is actually not
Speaker 8: that bad these days, it's more like eighty twenty for
Speaker 8: a lot of artists. The label called a million bucks
Speaker 8: for easy math, they advanced you million bucks. They they
Speaker 8: don't recoup the first million dollars. They keep seventy percent
Speaker 8: of it and only count your thirty percent against recouping it.
Speaker 8: So the basic math there is you have to make
Speaker 8: three point three million dollars that you don't see that
Speaker 8: before you recoup your million. And what happens along the
Speaker 8: way is you go, actually, I need fifty grand for
Speaker 8: this video, we need half a million for this tour,
Speaker 8: and they go, no problem.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because they're making the same difference on everything.
Speaker 4: So I mean, like, oh, you want to go on
Speaker 4: that red carpet, cool, no problem. You want a stylist,
Speaker 4: you want to limit, you want.
Speaker 8: There are definitely companies that are better than others and
Speaker 8: people more aware of it than so I'm certainly not
Speaker 8: saying a blanket statement that they're all bad. It's something
Speaker 8: that if you don't ask, they're probably not going to
Speaker 8: tell you.
Speaker 2: It's it's maybe it's business. Maybe it's just business.
Speaker 8: But I love that there are more people talking about
Speaker 8: it and more education out there, because if you understand
Speaker 8: the deal you do and they give you an opportunity
Speaker 8: and they put up a ton of money and it
Speaker 8: starts your career, than fantastic and that is a great
Speaker 8: way to go. Sometimes you need to pay your dues
Speaker 8: to launch this, which we very much did.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I mean it's yeah, it's it's one of
Speaker 1: those things where you look at the progression of child
Speaker 1: actors and musicians and everything and you go back. I mean,
Speaker 1: the dog that played Toto made more money than Judy
Speaker 1: Garland did when they were doing That's an actual, So
Speaker 1: it's so it's one of those things where you're you're
Speaker 1: so when especially when you're a kid, you're so happy
Speaker 1: to be working. Oh my god, I'm getting this job.
Speaker 1: I get to be on Nickelodeon, I get to be
Speaker 1: on Disney. That that stuff doesn't matter. And then when
Speaker 1: you start to grow up a little bit and you're like, wait.
Speaker 6: Well, what they say is because you know, they send
Speaker 6: out these contracts and they're like, look, you're seventeen years old,
Speaker 6: you're sixteen, nineteen whatever.
Speaker 5: There are so many of you out there.
Speaker 7: Who will who will take exactly what's written right here exactly.
Speaker 5: Take it or leave it.
Speaker 2: But you're lucky to be here, kid, You're lucky to
Speaker 2: be you know what.
Speaker 6: Like James said, you got to pay your dues, so
Speaker 6: you signed that and you're like, all right, cool, how long?
Speaker 8: Yeah, you know, flip side, flip side. With success, all
Speaker 8: parties should reap the benefits of that. Yeah, we go
Speaker 8: back to them second, third season, fourth season. Look was
Speaker 8: it fair in terms of absolutely probably not. However we
Speaker 8: received more. You know, and again if you ask when
Speaker 8: you work with it in your teammate and you're putting
Speaker 8: in it's super successful. Contracts are made to be revised.
Speaker 8: In fact, contracts be broken to some degree, so you know,
Speaker 8: end of the day, it was still an amazing opportunity.
Speaker 8: It started this whole thing and silver lining the blessing
Speaker 8: in the skies here is they did We're still going,
Speaker 8: you know, one hundred million dollars or something that we
Speaker 8: never could have put into this. That launched something that
Speaker 8: now we've been able to carry on and have eggs exactly.
Speaker 4: I mean, it definitely gave you opportunities and open doors
Speaker 4: that you guys wouldn't have been able to do on
Speaker 4: your own.
Speaker 3: So you have to.
Speaker 1: And they're fun companies to work people Forget working for Nickelodeon,
Speaker 1: working for Disney, you have fun, you have a good name,
Speaker 1: I'm working for These are.
Speaker 3: Living the dream you've grown up wanting to do this.
Speaker 3: So although yes, is.
Speaker 4: It excruciatingly exhausting sometimes absolutely, but you're literally singing in
Speaker 4: front of fans that know every single word. They've watched
Speaker 4: every single episode, they can repeat the episode. They know
Speaker 4: what your favorite ice cream is like, they show up
Speaker 4: with the cookies that you put on your favorite I mean,
Speaker 4: the fans are amazing, they are really honestly what makes
Speaker 4: all of that hard work feel like it disappears because
Speaker 4: it's so fun and the kids out there are just
Speaker 4: eating it up.
Speaker 3: And they love you and you love doing it for them,
Speaker 3: So it's.
Speaker 5: Gosh, I love your positivity. Let's go.
Speaker 4: I'm so stoked that you guys are getting a chance
Speaker 4: to go back out there.
Speaker 2: And now that's what I want to ask about. What's
Speaker 2: what now?
Speaker 1: How did what sparked the new tour? What's sparked coming back?
Speaker 1: Are there plans to do a new show or a movie?
Speaker 1: Can you tell us anything? Everybody's excited.
Speaker 6: I mean, look, we we've been talking about it for
Speaker 6: a long time and then we've done.
Speaker 7: This will be our third summer out uh and and
Speaker 7: this I mean.
Speaker 6: Europe, right, yeah, true, this will be our biggest I think,
Speaker 6: our biggest tour that we've ever done. We're really going
Speaker 6: back to the nostalgia of the TV show Gustavo Rock
Speaker 6: played by Stephen Gramer Glickman and Caitlin Tarver who played Joe.
Speaker 6: They're all gonna come on the road with us, and
Speaker 6: we've never done that. I mean, when I say that,
Speaker 6: Steven's been for this moment for the last fifteen years,
Speaker 6: like we're not even paying him, He's doing it for free.
Speaker 6: I'm kidding, but.
Speaker 2: Totally untrue.
Speaker 5: It's gonna be fun yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean what sparked this?
Speaker 8: I mean we just you know, wanted to get back together,
Speaker 8: and then the fans just showed us how much that
Speaker 8: they love the fact that we are and so so
Speaker 8: long as they want us to keep making music and
Speaker 8: going out there, we just feel grateful to be able
Speaker 8: to do it.
Speaker 2: Did you stay close?
Speaker 1: Sorry, I was just gonna ask in the in the meantime,
Speaker 1: did you stay close between when the show ended and
Speaker 1: coming back on tour now where we were all still
Speaker 1: in each other's lives and we.
Speaker 2: Already kind of drift like you normally do, we.
Speaker 8: All just wanted to do other things. We all get
Speaker 8: together the space and the breath that we needed. You know,
Speaker 8: everybody went off and did their own movies or music
Speaker 8: or both. Uh, started families. But when we came back together,
Speaker 8: it was I think with even more experience and more
Speaker 8: respect in many ways that.
Speaker 2: We could have possibly had. And we were seventeen to
Speaker 2: twenty three or whatever, that window.
Speaker 6: Was well, and now and now we're running a business
Speaker 6: together versus before we were just employees.
Speaker 7: Like I think there's just a different respect for the
Speaker 7: whole thing.
Speaker 6: And it's like, look, we want to have fun, we
Speaker 6: want to make money and make memories.
Speaker 5: So how do we do all of that together? And
Speaker 5: so far, so good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's different when it's your responsibility. All of a sudden,
Speaker 1: it's like.
Speaker 2: Do we need the Piro?
Speaker 8: I can tell you we definitely won't have Pyro. We
Speaker 8: have for toasters, which makes me sad. But you know
Speaker 8: many people you need to run a single toaster.
Speaker 5: Well, I mean you have to build your own stage.
Speaker 6: You literally have to build your own It's we've learned
Speaker 6: how expensive it is to tour.
Speaker 5: I mean just my my my family comes with us.
Speaker 6: So I got all my kids, I got the dog,
Speaker 6: and we have our own bus and my kids love
Speaker 6: it and and it.
Speaker 5: You know, it's.
Speaker 7: Expensive just to rent a bus for two months.
Speaker 6: So it's like you have to factor all these costs
Speaker 6: in and then go, okay, well are we gonna shoot
Speaker 6: that Pyro?
Speaker 5: Are we gonna get the screen?
Speaker 6: And you know, us, us being the business owners, now
Speaker 6: it's really put us in the you know, in this
Speaker 6: position of like how do we give the best show
Speaker 6: to the fans, but also but also like make it
Speaker 6: profitable And that's really tough nowadays.
Speaker 5: In the show it's so tough.
Speaker 8: To piggyback that you know, we're going around the world
Speaker 8: and so when you get into customizations, it costs more
Speaker 8: money but also takes more time. And we are we
Speaker 8: are adding more shows by the way. We can't announce
Speaker 8: where yet, but they're very much in the works several
Speaker 8: more countries. And in order to play the same show,
Speaker 8: going to a set, for example, that we can recreate
Speaker 8: in each country.
Speaker 2: Is very important.
Speaker 8: So there's interesting things we've learned along the way to
Speaker 8: make it fun and make the fan experience way better
Speaker 8: everywhere we go.
Speaker 3: Wow, I wanted to ask.
Speaker 4: So I've got a chance to go to the Spice
Speaker 4: Girls tour when they and it was their twenty year
Speaker 4: or something, and they just it was the first time
Speaker 4: they came back and did a reunion door and I
Speaker 4: got to go and stage was so different. You know,
Speaker 4: I had been doing The Cheetah Girls in an arena,
Speaker 4: you kind of know the thing. They had separate rooms
Speaker 4: for like a playroom for the kids.
Speaker 3: So it was like way.
Speaker 4: More like family oriented versus like ours. There was like,
Speaker 4: you know, a bar for the roadies were like set
Speaker 4: up versus like that room was designated as like a playroom,
Speaker 4: Like what's that looking like different than when you guys
Speaker 4: toured when you were younger. What's the what's the road
Speaker 4: like different?
Speaker 5: It's a mixture. It's a mixture.
Speaker 6: I mean, we're we're all pretty health conscious, so like,
Speaker 6: you know, for us, it's not really crazy food. I mean,
Speaker 6: you know James, James kind of leads all the workouts
Speaker 6: for everybody, and we make it a point to go
Speaker 6: to the gym for a couple hours every single day.
Speaker 6: And you know, James has a dog. I got my
Speaker 6: kids and my dog. So we're playing on the lawn
Speaker 6: getting sun. I feel like back in the day, it
Speaker 6: was just.
Speaker 5: Like, yeah, we're in Minnesota, let's go right.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm actually really excited for this tour. I'm taking
Speaker 8: a complete year off of drinking. I mean, I haven't
Speaker 8: really done it much in the last few years. But
Speaker 8: there's habits you build before, Like you know, you're twenty
Speaker 8: one years old, You're can go play a show and
Speaker 8: so many cheers as you and you have a shot
Speaker 8: for the thing. You kind of sure things that just
Speaker 8: you know, we're in our thirties now. We want to
Speaker 8: put on the best show every night, and more important,
Speaker 8: like we want to feel good we have other responsibilities.
Speaker 2: Like Carlos and I love.
Speaker 8: Waking up early, love going and getting our workouts. You know,
Speaker 8: some of the guys come, I mean Logan's comes pretty often,
Speaker 8: but Carlos is very dedicated. I enjoy a different side
Speaker 8: of life and a different side of touring now, so much.
Speaker 2: Closer to the Spice Girls than what you got back
Speaker 2: in the day.
Speaker 6: This is super funny though, because back in the day
Speaker 6: we would go on at like eight or nine o'clock,
Speaker 6: played for two hours, get off at eleven. We played
Speaker 6: some shows recently where we were on at like seven
Speaker 6: and we were done by nine. And here's how you
Speaker 6: know that we're all getting older because we were like that.
Speaker 8: Was really nice, and we did great pieces with the openers,
Speaker 8: you know, being bad.
Speaker 5: We let the openers go last and we'll just go
Speaker 5: that's all.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Did you guys all ever tour and be on the
Speaker 3: same bus?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 3: Yeah, than how you guys were? Okay, we did that too,
Speaker 3: which was the best. I loved it. I felt it
Speaker 3: was like camp on the road.
Speaker 4: And now you guys again obviously are doing like your
Speaker 4: own bussing situation.
Speaker 6: I think for the health, for the health of of everything,
Speaker 6: for those long you know, for a short week or two,
Speaker 6: it's fine. Like in Europe we're gonna be there for
Speaker 6: four weeks. Uh, and you know it's just gonna be
Speaker 6: all of us on one bus and that's fine. But
Speaker 6: I think you know, here in the States, we do
Speaker 6: have the luxury to have a couple of buses. James
Speaker 6: will have Hison bus, all of mine and then kenall
Speaker 6: Logan are going to share, and.
Speaker 5: You know, you can kind of go back home if
Speaker 5: you want to.
Speaker 6: You have two days off, you know, maybe maybe go
Speaker 6: to you know, me and James both have our birthdays
Speaker 6: on the road, so it's like if we can sneak
Speaker 6: off for a day and go to a campsite, it's
Speaker 6: kind of fun to do that. And not everybody always
Speaker 6: wants to go, so sure, so having that flexibility, you know, yeah.
Speaker 3: That's cool.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Oh my god, could you imagine being at that
Speaker 4: camp site and a tour bus rolls up and you're like, is.
Speaker 6: That carless from Big Every summer that we've been out,
Speaker 6: I've gone back to my old summer camp. Have you
Speaker 6: really It's it's up in the Poconos and I called,
Speaker 6: I'm like, hey, you know what I'm you know, in
Speaker 6: town next week.
Speaker 7: We drive the bus in and all the kids love it.
Speaker 5: It's fun. The campers are there.
Speaker 2: So wait, are you summer birthdays then mid July? Mid August?
Speaker 5: Yeah, August?
Speaker 2: Where what are you in August?
Speaker 5: August fifteenth?
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm the eleventh, so just making sure.
Speaker 5: I'm going to say teeth listen.
Speaker 6: Joe Jonas is also on the fifteenth, so you know,
Speaker 6: it could have been wow.
Speaker 3: Wow when I have the same birthday September sixteenth?
Speaker 2: What birthday Jonas this week? And I bond?
Speaker 8: Does anybody in that family have the July sixteenth? There's
Speaker 8: like seven of them, twelve.
Speaker 2: Of them exactly.
Speaker 8: I'm sure we'll all find somebody I don't notice that's confident.
Speaker 1: So where uh if they go on your website, where
Speaker 1: can they find for all the shows? Because I want
Speaker 1: to come. So Brinda and I are coming on.
Speaker 8: One official dot com has all these and all the
Speaker 8: new ones will be adding. Our Instagram is great, but
Speaker 8: like Big Timber's official has just all the direct Where do.
Speaker 5: You guys live?
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 7: Cool?
Speaker 2: Are you coming to southern California at all? Can we
Speaker 2: come and see it?
Speaker 6: Okay?
Speaker 2: Into it? Which is really exciting, you know.
Speaker 1: That's we were just there for WrestleMania. It's a great place.
Speaker 5: Is it true that you walk in with no tickets
Speaker 5: and it just scans your face.
Speaker 1: It scans your face and you can buy everything and
Speaker 1: like you just walk up and it scans you at
Speaker 1: the bar and you just grab the stuff that you want.
Speaker 2: It's all just scanned. It's really cool.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's weird, super super cool.
Speaker 2: Okay, so Sabena, we gotta go.
Speaker 4: Yes, absolutely, that sounds like so much fun. And I
Speaker 4: can't wait to see these fans just lose their marbles
Speaker 4: over you.
Speaker 3: It'll be so amazing.
Speaker 4: I can't let this interview go though without touching at
Speaker 4: least on your guys' journeys on Dancing with the Stars.
Speaker 5: I was gonna say the three of us, I know,
Speaker 5: I love.
Speaker 1: No, it's that's you would not want to see me
Speaker 1: on Dancing with Anything.
Speaker 3: Get them on on Sunday.
Speaker 2: They want to see you. Yeah, no, you really don't.
Speaker 2: Dancing on acid. It'll be the closest you get.
Speaker 6: So Garry Bucy was on my season. Okay, if Gary
Speaker 6: Busey you can do it.
Speaker 2: Well yeah no, that would be rough. I promise you
Speaker 2: that would be rough. Yeah, so what is it? What
Speaker 2: was that?
Speaker 1: Like Sabrina talks about Dancing with the Stars like it's
Speaker 1: one of their favorite things she's ever done in her life.
Speaker 3: Why I have to bring it up?
Speaker 4: And if you have bad stories, I don't want to
Speaker 4: hear them because nothing will nothing will get anything negative
Speaker 4: towards Dancing Stars.
Speaker 2: Were the greatest experience.
Speaker 8: I'm sure different experiences, but I look at it as
Speaker 8: the most amount of fun that I never want to
Speaker 8: have again.
Speaker 2: I'm really glad I kids, truly that's a good thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 8: I just at that time in my life, it was fun.
Speaker 8: It was great, it was exhausting. I'm glad I did it.
Speaker 8: I like a competition show, something that's challenging physically, meant
Speaker 8: like that, that's so much more fun than just going
Speaker 8: on so I've done, you know, unscripted elsewhere, it's like
Speaker 8: not as cool. This one's really really rough, Like you
Speaker 8: have to put in the work if you want to
Speaker 8: have any chance of competing. And I really enjoyed that.
Speaker 3: Who is your partner, Peter murgatroyd.
Speaker 2: Oh you got it's so great. I mean, she was
Speaker 2: just fantastic.
Speaker 5: I'm a little different.
Speaker 7: I so I got to compete alongside.
Speaker 6: With my wife, whoa which was so my wife competed
Speaker 6: the same season, which was awesome because we get to
Speaker 6: be together all the time.
Speaker 1: But she wasn't your partner, right they put you with.
Speaker 3: They were competing against each other, which I'm so great.
Speaker 5: It was so fun.
Speaker 6: We cried when we They of course put us both
Speaker 6: in the bottom and They're like one of you is
Speaker 6: going home, and I'm.
Speaker 7: Like, this is freaking yeah.
Speaker 6: But no, I'd say my experience if they did an
Speaker 6: All Star season, I'm like, Dina CAATs call me please.
Speaker 4: Yes, I would pay money to be honest, I was,
Speaker 4: and I did do an All Star season.
Speaker 3: This would be my third shut up.
Speaker 5: Yes no.
Speaker 6: And Sean Johnson's yes, Oh gosh. I just talked to
Speaker 6: her about it and she was so. I think I
Speaker 6: think an All Star season would be fun because that
Speaker 6: first season, when you don't know what it is, it's
Speaker 6: so nerve wracking. Every night when those beeps happened and
Speaker 6: you're about to dance, your heart is beating. I think
Speaker 6: I would go into an All Star season like bring
Speaker 6: it on, baby, let's go.
Speaker 8: You do.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because you know what to expect, however, I will
Speaker 4: tell you up in you know, we all have a
Speaker 4: rehearsal day the day before, you know, the day of
Speaker 4: the actual filming. Everyone's up there, We're running the whole show,
Speaker 4: and we're all up there and I don't remember who
Speaker 4: was on the floor, but christially looks over at us
Speaker 4: and goes, is anyone else? Asking themselves why the hell
Speaker 4: I signed up for this? Again, knowing how bad this was.
Speaker 3: Because of the anxiety you have when you're up and look.
Speaker 5: Totally you do.
Speaker 2: But but at.
Speaker 4: The same time, like you come in with a like,
Speaker 4: let's freaking do this, and so does everyone else.
Speaker 2: Dot I bet it's more competitive.
Speaker 1: It was so much more.
Speaker 4: Still super friendly, everyone's super excited, but everyone is like
Speaker 4: it's almost like they're looking going why am I not
Speaker 4: that good?
Speaker 3: Why am I okay? What are we you know?
Speaker 4: Talking to your partner? What can I do to be better?
Speaker 4: Like you're everything is just at a higher level. But
Speaker 4: it is very fun still, it's it's it's still very intense.
Speaker 4: I thought I was going to be like, oh, I
Speaker 4: got it, like we know what we're doing now, and
Speaker 4: it's like, whoa, it's still so.
Speaker 6: We did something last Christmas, we did uh btr on ice.
Speaker 7: Oh and and we did a concert on ice.
Speaker 5: We all skate.
Speaker 2: Oh come, you're all skating?
Speaker 5: Yes?
Speaker 6: And and we literally so so like picture a huge arena,
Speaker 6: ice on the floor, kind of like Disney on ice.
Speaker 6: There was a stage because at one point we took
Speaker 6: our skates off and did a concert. But we hired
Speaker 6: pros to basically skate with us and skate around us
Speaker 6: and do some stuff. And it kind of reminds me
Speaker 6: of Dancing with the Stars because we it kind of
Speaker 6: pulled this out of.
Speaker 7: Our element, but it was so much fun.
Speaker 8: In fact, the only person who fell was a professional
Speaker 8: dancer was my dance.
Speaker 2: The other fun fact. Accuse me of tripping her. I
Speaker 2: watched the tape. I was on a knee. I was
Speaker 2: on a knee. Just say no. She was great, They're great. Sorry,
Speaker 2: go on.
Speaker 5: The area huge.
Speaker 2: True, that's so sad. Automatically taking the professional no to.
Speaker 7: Say, would you do skating with the Stars?
Speaker 4: Well they did something like that, don't you remember they
Speaker 4: did that show? There was an Skating with the Stars
Speaker 4: and it was It was terrible that it was not
Speaker 4: They were not able to you know, how like there
Speaker 4: are ice skating.
Speaker 2: And make it look same as everybody. It's not.
Speaker 4: It's so hard and it was hard because at least
Speaker 4: with Dancing with the Stars, I feel like even when
Speaker 4: you don't have the best celebrity, the pros are able
Speaker 4: to like in a waltz a lot of times, like
Speaker 4: a pro dancer will do a scar especially girls.
Speaker 8: Girls. The guys lead you honestly, can just sit there
Speaker 8: and hold your form.
Speaker 2: And they will make you. The guys have a way harder.
Speaker 4: They pros have to learn how to back lead you guys,
Speaker 4: which is hard. It's also harder.
Speaker 6: You just have to keep taking our shirt sage. That's
Speaker 6: the only way that James and I got to the
Speaker 6: end everything.
Speaker 2: Wait, there's nakedness.
Speaker 1: Hopefully that you didn't get naked on the ice too?
Speaker 2: Did you that that would be tough?
Speaker 8: I almost tripped one time and I considered it just
Speaker 8: to distract the audience, But no.
Speaker 4: The ice skating show, it just shows you how very
Speaker 4: hard it is, and it was hard to like, like
Speaker 4: camouflage from what the celebrities look for.
Speaker 5: We did it and we looked amazing.
Speaker 3: Okay, I bet you did.
Speaker 4: But to dance question like yeah, but I wouldn't expect
Speaker 4: i'd have the results that I had on Dancing with
Speaker 4: the Stars in any sort because ice skating is tough,
Speaker 4: like tough.
Speaker 1: There is not a professional dancer that could make me
Speaker 1: look like I know how to dance.
Speaker 2: I don't care how good they are. Yes it is.
Speaker 1: If they do Drinking with the Stars, I'll win.
Speaker 2: I don't know, so nice one hundred percent believe them.
Speaker 2: I just thank you, James on my side. This is
Speaker 2: from the guy who trips ice skaters. Call it like
Speaker 2: I see, it's so to you. We're on the same
Speaker 2: pagere I don't gett combat it. I think we should
Speaker 2: be partners.
Speaker 1: Will partner up for the new Dancing with the Stars.
Speaker 2: That will be fine. You lead me and I'll just
Speaker 2: told default.
Speaker 4: Yes absolutely sometimes I love it.
Speaker 1: Well, thank you both for joining us so much. We're
Speaker 1: going I'm not joking, by the way, we're coming to
Speaker 1: please so Sabrina and I are definitely going to be there.
Speaker 2: We can't wait.
Speaker 1: Everybody, go to the website and check it out because
Speaker 1: the tour is gonna be amazing, and check it out
Speaker 1: also in Europe because hopefully I'll be there for one
Speaker 1: of those two I my wife and I love it there,
Speaker 1: so we're there quite a bit, so it would be
Speaker 1: great to see you guys.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for coming on. Break well Break.
Speaker 2: I was gonna say break a leg.
Speaker 1: I guess you could still say that with singers, probably
Speaker 1: not dancers.
Speaker 2: I said that this Sabrina once. She's like what, I'm like, Oh,
Speaker 2: that's right. You don't say break the legs. Dancers perform, Yes, okay,
Speaker 2: twist and.
Speaker 1: Ankle, Sabrina, it is.
Speaker 2: I become my little sister.
Speaker 3: I'm aloud completely ignored you so much.
Speaker 5: Luck.
Speaker 4: I hope it's amazing, and I hope it's going to
Speaker 4: be incredible, and we'll see you on the road because
Speaker 4: we're coming. We get a chance to talk to you
Speaker 4: guys after and you guys can tell us all about
Speaker 4: it was, because I'm sure it's just going to.
Speaker 5: Be that's the second show, so we'll give you all
Speaker 5: the tea.
Speaker 1: Yeah, into it, into it a second to last.
Speaker 2: Okay, cool, we'll be there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, great, Thank you guys so much.
Speaker 2: Bye bye.
Speaker 1: So you can tell just by talking to them how
Speaker 1: much fun being on the road would be and how
Speaker 1: serious they take it, and you know it's going to
Speaker 1: be the greatest thing in the world for their fans,
Speaker 1: but it's also just you can tell they.
Speaker 7: Have a blast.
Speaker 1: And that's when you see a band members having that
Speaker 1: much fun and you can tell they're not faking it.
Speaker 1: You know the show is going to be good because
Speaker 1: they're just going to be having so much fun while
Speaker 1: they're love.
Speaker 3: That the journey that they've been on.
Speaker 4: I mean again, like knowing what it's like to be
Speaker 4: a part of a group and really, like they said,
Speaker 4: like you're just kind of employees for part part of it,
Speaker 4: and then as you get older and you do more
Speaker 4: of them and you start to learn the process and
Speaker 4: you start to learn how much like creative control that
Speaker 4: you can take on. Like I love that they're having
Speaker 4: that journey and this one is like the best of
Speaker 4: the best for them so far, you know, and I'm
Speaker 4: sure if they continue just going to get better and
Speaker 4: I that's just so amazing. I'm so excited for that
Speaker 4: and that they've gotten this journey for so long.
Speaker 3: Twenty and thirteen was when the show ended.
Speaker 2: I think so. And so they started auditioning in tw.
Speaker 3: Twenty five, Like, holy hell, that is so.
Speaker 1: It was a year audition process. That's insane.
Speaker 4: Imagine I mean, I think I would just forget about it.
Speaker 4: I would lose all hope, there's.
Speaker 5: But you can.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's what I love.
Speaker 1: How he's like when they say we'll call you, it's
Speaker 1: like a slow no, which is exactly right.
Speaker 3: If it's not you, it's me, it really is.
Speaker 1: Just because every time it's actually you, it's never me.
Speaker 2: I'm awesome.
Speaker 1: H thank you everybody for joining us for this park
Speaker 1: Opper episode, and seriously go to the website and check
Speaker 1: it out. Well, I'm sure we'll put it up on
Speaker 1: our Instagram and go check out a concert I'm looking
Speaker 1: forward to. We'll have to go to the we will
Speaker 1: we'll totally ago. Maybe we could.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that would be good.
Speaker 2: We'll take Jordan, we'll take Sue.
Speaker 1: We'll go and we'll grab some dinner and we'll have
Speaker 1: some fun and we'll go see their show.
Speaker 2: It'll be a ton of fun.
Speaker 1: And thank you everybody for joining us on this wonderful,
Speaker 1: magical rewind park Copper episode. And remember we don't have
Speaker 1: a catchphrase to end an episode. Thanks everybody,