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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: He welcome back to Coast to Coast AM. I'm Ryan

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Speaker 2: com joining us now paranormal researcher. We've been having a

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Speaker 2: conversation with him, Jeff Harmon, you can find him online

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Speaker 2: at Jeffharmon dot com. Research with over fifty years of experience,

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Speaker 2: and Jeff, it sounds like you've walked into some pretty

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Speaker 2: haunted places in those fifty years, and you're mentioning some

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Speaker 2: of the different techniques to try to clear the air.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes you mentioned that one sort of acid that works.

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Speaker 2: But what are some things people can do, let's say,

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Speaker 2: in their home if they feel like there's something there

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Speaker 2: that shouldn't be What are some simple things people can

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Speaker 2: try to see if that clears things out.

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Speaker 3: Well, there's a number of techniques. I think the biggest

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Speaker 3: thing is fear.

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Speaker 4: Is to get rid fear because again we project most

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Speaker 4: of the people that are good at clearing, depossessing, et cetera,

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Speaker 4: they approach things with a very strong attitude and belief

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Speaker 4: no matter what techniques you use. I think that's really important.

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Speaker 4: You know, like the nitric acid. You can't even get

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Speaker 4: that anymore because after nine to eleven you don't even

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Speaker 4: allow it.

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Speaker 3: But that was many years ago when I had that stuff.

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Speaker 3: But I can tell you another thing that works really good.

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Speaker 4: You can take rubbing alcohol and pour it on epsub

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Speaker 4: salt in like a pie tin, and you can light it,

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Speaker 4: but be careful you don't light anything on fire. You know,

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Speaker 4: put it like on a ceramic plate, and that has

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Speaker 4: a real interesting energy at breaking etheric energy within the room,

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Speaker 4: and you could pour that once it's done burning down

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Speaker 4: your drains. Drains have a very interesting energy because that's

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Speaker 4: where a lot of the a is and you know, stray,

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Speaker 4: lower level entities tend to hang out where a lot

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Speaker 4: of decay is. Now, that was a big thing is

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Speaker 4: not having dead animals and things around that Many of

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Speaker 4: the old warriors would burn the.

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Speaker 3: Dead right away.

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Speaker 4: There was a lot of feelings that decaying things is

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Speaker 4: not good because it attracts entities. You know, this gets

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Speaker 4: into the whole realm of where we're at. You know,

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Speaker 4: we've all heard of the Garden of Eden story, right

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Speaker 4: and this is the exact same story that we hear

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Speaker 4: in the Baghava Gita, in the Vedas, the Egyptian, the

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Speaker 4: Chldean stuff, many of the ancient cultures all have this

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Speaker 4: story of a war in heaven and the demonic forces

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Speaker 4: were cast down. Of course we now know them as

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Speaker 4: fallen angels, right. And there's actually been a lot of

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Speaker 4: comparative analysis done between the Torah, which is known as

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Speaker 4: also the Old.

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Speaker 3: Testament in the Vedas.

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Speaker 4: And there's a couple of professors that I had talked to,

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Speaker 4: absolutely amazing the once you change the names, it's almost

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Speaker 4: exactly the same story. And this gets into the physical realms.

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Speaker 4: They actually say there may be forty nine parallel universes

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Speaker 4: in forty nine subdimensions within each one. Many quantum physicists,

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Speaker 4: and you could say theoretical physicists believe this, and so

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Speaker 4: do I. Because time is really I wouldn't call it

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Speaker 4: an illusion, but it's definitely a construct of time and space.

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Speaker 3: Texts like the Seffertsira speak about this.

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Speaker 4: The Upanishads, the Vodka vad Gita gets into this some

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Speaker 4: very interesting you know analysis here in terms of what

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Speaker 4: is time and space and when people find a place

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Speaker 4: that's haunted. Often this is what you're dealing with, is

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Speaker 4: this incarnate souls. I've actually run into, you know, visions

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Speaker 4: people that are still hanging around spaniards and clearing places.

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Speaker 4: And many people have heard of the stories about the

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Speaker 4: Civil War and Gettysburg, and it's interesting how long some

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Speaker 4: of these entities can hang around. One of the most

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Speaker 4: compelling documents I speak about a lot of my podcasts

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Speaker 4: is a book called Thirty Years.

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Speaker 3: Among the Debt.

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Speaker 4: It was written by doctor Carl Wickland, and in that

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Speaker 4: he actually would use shock therapy treatment to dislodge dis

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Speaker 4: incarnate souls, and his wife would take these on and

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Speaker 4: he would have dialogue with him. Almost ninety nine percent

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Speaker 3: There's many other texts like this.

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Speaker 4: Doctor Frye had written a book called Freeing the Captives.

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Speaker 3: She was a medical doctor who documented.

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Speaker 4: Case if the case if the case of people clearing

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Speaker 4: up from massive depression, addiction. Also you know schizophrenia, multiple

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Speaker 4: thousands of years old that speak about this. Egypt is

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Speaker 4: can't get the disincarnate in a dialogue, which you usually can't,

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Speaker 4: you just got to banish them. And those techniques. You know,

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Speaker 4: that works for me is there's sacred geometry. That's it's

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Speaker 4: called banishing. Leonardo da Vinci popularize the petrogramation, which means

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Speaker 4: if you look at a human being, the head is

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Speaker 4: spirit or known as fire, the shoulders and arms is

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Speaker 4: oriole and also a petrogramation. You can draw from the

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Speaker 4: left foot up to spirit. That's banishing from earth to spirit.

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Speaker 4: Then you pull down to the right foot, which is fire,

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Speaker 4: That's actually called a banishing from earth to spirit. And

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Speaker 4: you could drive those out into four directions and you

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Speaker 4: create a circle and you invoke the four archangels archangel.

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Speaker 4: Michael is fire, Raphael is of course air, Gabriel's water,

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Speaker 4: and Oriole is earth, and you again put divinity up

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Speaker 4: above that and these techniques once you understand the sacred

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Speaker 3: You have very strong astral vision.

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Speaker 4: I often refer people to a book called The Magus

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Speaker 4: of Stroblos, which is an incredible book. And he actually

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Speaker 4: wrote another book called Esoteric Practices, which is exercises on

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Speaker 4: how to take your conscious mind and learn how to

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Speaker 4: concentrate and then create visualization. And these techniques are wonderful

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Speaker 4: I just did a podcast that's amazing with a lady

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Speaker 4: named Laura Hirsch and may have heard of the telepathy tapes,

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Speaker 4: and the telepathy tapes are incredible. They're they're basically looking

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Speaker 4: at all these autistic children who have learned learned to

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Speaker 4: On she wrote a book and her son has been autistic.

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Speaker 4: very important, to be sure. But what's interesting is to

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Speaker 4: this is proof of what I'm saying. And if we

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Speaker 4: that this world isn't important. We certainly have to pay

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Speaker 4: the power of our minds. Every one of us have it.

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Speaker 4: And Edgar Casey said the same thing. He said, you

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Speaker 4: find the astrological influences in people's lives that transits the progressions,

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Speaker 3: You know? Are these low levels? They are? They very evil?

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Speaker 4: Forty there's a really good identification of a lot of

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Speaker 4: the stuff I'm saying, Like there's things called ibures. These

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Speaker 4: You can actually cast a chart, like if someone says

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Speaker 4: I've been fairly lucky. I've been run into anything that's

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Speaker 3: As the Goesia. In fact, Manly P.

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Speaker 4: Hall and I had a conversation about that a long

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Speaker 4: time ago.

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Speaker 3: I don't know who he was.

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Speaker 4: He was the guy who started the Philosophical Research Center

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Speaker 4: over in Las Phelis. He wrote the book The Secret

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Speaker 4: Teachings of All Ages. And Mainley was an interesting guy.

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Speaker 4: He was a thirty three degree Mason and he rubbed

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Speaker 4: elbows with a lot of very famous people in Hollywood.

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Speaker 3: And I think it was.

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Speaker 4: Like nineteen sixteen or something he gave a talk downtown

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Speaker 4: at a church and a bunch of people who were

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Speaker 4: involved with secret societies, the Rosicrucians and others.

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Speaker 3: Really were enamored with his ability to speak.

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Speaker 4: And they bequeathed to him a lot of secret knowledge,

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Speaker 4: which became the book The Secret Teachings of All Ages.

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Speaker 3: And that's a very famous book, and get that online.

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Speaker 4: It's an amazing book because it covers so many different

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Speaker 4: things on alchemy, spirits, you know, different religions and.

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Speaker 3: Different techniques, and very fascinating book.

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Speaker 4: And I'd often wonder how he got into that well, Anyways,

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Speaker 4: he and I got in the conversation about these things,

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Speaker 4: and you know.

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Speaker 3: There's definitely techniques in different secret societies that are used,

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Speaker 3: and the knowledge is very much known about this stuff.

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Speaker 4: And you know, I think one of the smartest things

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Speaker 4: the spirits ever did was convinced that they didn't exist.

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Speaker 4: You know, we live our lives in normalcy. Most people

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Speaker 4: you'll see somebody who's really inhibited or very sensitized. And

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Speaker 4: what's interesting about that is they often can get possessed.

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Speaker 4: And again, I find ceremonial magic got me on that

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Speaker 4: topic is a very dangerous thing because this was the

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Speaker 4: think it's still being used a lot. We hear a

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Speaker 4: and all of that, and many people are saying, why

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Speaker 4: would these people sacrifice somebody or why would they do

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Speaker 4: all this crazy stuff.

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Speaker 3: We're hearing their doing.

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Speaker 4: Well, you're really, in my opinion, getting close to what

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Speaker 4: some very dark secret societies play with.

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Speaker 4: enforcement tell me, we know their satanic ritchell's going on

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Speaker 4: at this place or that place, but he says, you

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Speaker 4: art of summoning spirits where you draw a circle around

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Speaker 4: you and the spirit is put into a triangular shape. Well,

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Speaker 4: what's so dangerous about that is, yeah, you'll get a result.

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Speaker 4: That's actually known as the practical Kabbalah by some or theurgy.

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Speaker 4: the highway to Hell, and that's where I see demonic

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Speaker 3: I had one guy I did a reading.

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Speaker 4: For many years ago, and he came into me and

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Speaker 4: he said, Jeff, I joined the Secrets aside.

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Speaker 3: I said, okay, and he says, some really weird stuff

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Speaker 3: going on. I said, get the hell out of there.

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Speaker 4: And of course that's what they were doing, and I

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Speaker 3: From that stuff.

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