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So John Middlecoff, former NFL 21 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 1: Scout three and Out podcast, let's talk some NFL schedule stuff, 22 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:05,759 Speaker 1: and we'll do a half hour on this. I think 23 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 1: it's my first take is so I looked at the 24 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:11,399 Speaker 1: Niner schedule and I knew it would be easy, and 25 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 1: then I watched the way it was laid out, and 26 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 1: I'm like, if you take out Stafford twice and C. J. 27 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:22,119 Speaker 1: Stroud once, this is the weakest schedule in fifteen years. 28 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 1: The Atlanta Falcons had this schedule back in no, I 29 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 1: think it was twenty fifteen. It'd be ten years. So 30 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 1: it's the weakest schedule in a decade. And I would 31 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 1: I'll throw this at you. I said, if I was 32 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 1: John Lynch and looked at the schedule, I would sign 33 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:42,040 Speaker 1: Brock pretty now because this schedule screams twelve and five, 34 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:46,959 Speaker 1: thirteen and four, and right now he's coming off losing season. 35 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 1: So if you have any leverage, could I say, John, 36 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 1: it's the next month to two. Yeah. 37 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 2: I mean, I think his we obviously spent so much 38 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 2: time talking about this. His whole thing is comparing himself 39 00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 2: to other guys, and these recent contracts of guys like 40 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 2: Jordan Love who played eight games and got one hundred 41 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 2: and seventy five million, Tua who got one hundred and 42 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 2: sixty million Trevor Lawrence who got two hundred million dollars. Like, 43 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 2: he does have a leg to stand on, given that 44 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 2: he's played well and you know, been a part of 45 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:19,080 Speaker 2: a team that was in a Super Bowl. But my 46 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:22,119 Speaker 2: issue is, like that money's coming, Like he's getting the contract. 47 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 2: We don't know exactly one hundred and fifty million, one 48 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 2: hundred and eighty million, one hundred. 49 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 1: And thirty million. 50 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 2: I'm sure that's you pay him. Let's just say conservatively 51 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 2: fifty million dollars a year. Kyle is one of the 52 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:35,640 Speaker 2: highest paid coaches at fifteen to eighteen million dollars a year. 53 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:38,919 Speaker 2: If I'm paying my head coach and my quarterback close 54 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 2: to seventy million dollars a year at minimum, I don't 55 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 2: care who else is on the team because this roster 56 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 2: is not as good as it was a couple of 57 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 2: years ago. I need double digit wins. I mean, we've 58 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 2: seen it with the with the Rams last couple of years, 59 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 2: they found a way as they retooled. I would say 60 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:54,640 Speaker 2: anything less than double digit wins. I have supported Kyle 61 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 2: thinking like, oh he's on the hot seat. That was 62 00:02:56,840 --> 00:03:00,160 Speaker 2: insane talk. But there is a contingent of the those 63 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:03,359 Speaker 2: humans that exist over You know, Kyle can rub some 64 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:06,240 Speaker 2: people the wrong way. I think he's a pretty elite coach. 65 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 2: He's proven that, but this is a big year for 66 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:11,079 Speaker 2: him to Again, I don't need twelve thirteen wins. I 67 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 2: don't think the roster is quite as good. But if 68 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:15,360 Speaker 2: the Ravens or the Bills or the Chiefs had this schedule, 69 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:18,079 Speaker 2: we'd be talking like, can they run the table? Ten 70 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:20,519 Speaker 2: wins minimum? I think is more than fair, and I 71 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 2: think that is going to be the expectation or things 72 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 2: have gone really really sour. 73 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, I said that if you gave Stafford Burrow, not 74 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 1: Burrow because Cincinnati I don't trust their front office and ownership. 75 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 1: But if you gave Josh Allen, Lamar Mahomes and I 76 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 1: think Stafford and McVeigh this, we would be talking about 77 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 1: thirteen or fourteen wins. I mean even Vegas would probably 78 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 1: put the over under at twelve to twelve and a half. So, 79 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 1: you know, I think one of the things that bothered 80 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 1: me John, I've said this, and this is my interpretation. 81 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 1: I could tell when Bill Belichick took over drafting with 82 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 1: the Patriots, he was drafting players who had plug immediate holes, 83 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 1: often reaching for people. General managers gen to have a 84 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 1: tend to have a a little bit of a longer vision. 85 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 1: I can tell when Pete Carolyn Seattle, I could tell 86 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 1: they were reaching on some players, and I'm like, that's 87 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 1: not John Snyder. Last couple of drafts when John's controlled 88 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:15,119 Speaker 1: them have been excellent. I do feel like the last 89 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:17,720 Speaker 1: couple of years, I felt like Kyle's had a lot 90 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 1: of say in drafting. I find their drafts for the moment, 91 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:28,279 Speaker 1: not for the future. I Ricky Pierre Saliz like, you've 92 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:31,599 Speaker 1: got Jennings and Deebo and Ayuk and Kittle and McCaffrey. 93 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 1: You've got enough pass catchers. That felt like a coach 94 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 1: who wanted a little you know, wanted to replace Debo. 95 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 1: That's what I see. I tend to be able to say, okay, 96 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:44,360 Speaker 1: I can tell that to coach's draft or a coach 97 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:47,039 Speaker 1: is putting pressure. I didn't like the Niners draft. I 98 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 1: thought they didn't attack the offensive line, which is a 99 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:51,720 Speaker 1: huge issue. What did you view of their draft? 100 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 2: I've come to the expectations now Kyle's admitted, like, we 101 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:57,160 Speaker 2: don't value offensive lineman unless we think you're like an 102 00:04:57,200 --> 00:05:00,600 Speaker 2: all time great. We'll pick a skill guy. We're definitely 103 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:03,159 Speaker 2: a defensive lineman, which I'm four. But they just don't 104 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 2: draft offensive lineman, especially tackles. He's not going to draft 105 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 2: to tackle in the third round, which I think is insane. 106 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:12,480 Speaker 2: I had a college scouting director because I was talking 107 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:15,040 Speaker 2: a lot about this too during and before the draft. 108 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 2: How you know different personnel departments work, He says, you 109 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:20,479 Speaker 2: can always tell when the coach is heavily involved because 110 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:23,280 Speaker 2: they treat the draft. You can tell they're looking at 111 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 2: the depth chart. You know, scouts in front offices aren't 112 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 2: consumed with the depth chart because the depth chart, to 113 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:31,919 Speaker 2: Kyle is Week one against Seattle. You know, John Lynch 114 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 2: and these like Michael Williams is a real pick, right, 115 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 2: the kid from Florigia. That's a big picture pick that 116 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 2: any team takes. That's not the depth chart. Whether you 117 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 2: had ten defensive ends or one, you have no problem 118 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:45,479 Speaker 2: picking him. But like you said, Ricky Piersall, it's like, well, 119 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:48,239 Speaker 2: you know this IU thing's going sour. We're already turning 120 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 2: on Deebo. Might we might trade him right now or 121 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 2: over the next year. That's a depth chart move. And 122 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:55,599 Speaker 2: I think that's where you get into trouble. You know, 123 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 2: there's a balance of need and big picture, but coaches 124 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 2: are just oh, Kyle's Kyle's not worried about twenty twenty seven. 125 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 2: He's worried about this year trying to win eleven games 126 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:08,360 Speaker 2: and be in the playoffs. And I don't blame him, 127 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 2: but that's why there's got to be a little separation 128 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:13,039 Speaker 2: between church and state. You know. I look at the 129 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 2: Eagles have the most powerful GM. Look how they've drafted 130 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:20,359 Speaker 2: and the coaching staff coach the players. It's gone pretty well. 131 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so. And I also think there are things. 132 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 1: I think Arizona is going to be a real team. 133 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:29,159 Speaker 1: I think I think Seattle's roster is really impressive. I 134 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 1: think the Vikings will miss Sam Darnold. And I think 135 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 1: the Rams defense, I think it's the best young defense 136 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:36,159 Speaker 1: in the NFL. So I thought last year was a 137 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 1: year where Arizona and the Rams over I mean I 138 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 1: thought the Rams overachieved a little. I thought the Arizona 139 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 1: wasn't quite there yet with a new coach, and I 140 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:48,039 Speaker 1: thought Seattle with Gino Smith, had limitations at quarterback. I 141 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:52,040 Speaker 1: think the division's much better. So yeah, I mean, so, 142 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 1: I just I just don't feel it. The schedules. It's 143 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 1: a save. I'll tell you that because I. 144 00:06:57,360 --> 00:07:00,840 Speaker 2: Do think this though, Colin, if you go, we do agree. 145 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 2: Kyle Shanahan has faults at times, is one of the 146 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 2: better coaches in the NFL. 147 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:06,039 Speaker 1: Yes, listen. 148 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 2: Robert Sola, head coach Jets, not an easy spot, A 149 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 2: little over his head. Most people view him as an 150 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 2: excellent defensive coordinator. I don't know. I don't have the 151 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 2: spreadsheet because it's not public. I would imagine Kyle and 152 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 2: Robert Sala when you combine the head coach and defensive 153 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 2: coordinator beside like Andy and Spags, that there can't be 154 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 2: a higher paid combination. This is a coaching league, right 155 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 2: Because you talk a lot about this, the margins are small. 156 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 2: I think you've got to like your chances. Even if 157 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 2: you've got some now random players on the team that 158 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:39,119 Speaker 2: their coach, their offensive and defensive coordinator. The guys calling 159 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 2: the place are really good. So I'm a little more 160 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 2: bullish now we're going to find out pretty quickly, like 161 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 2: if they've whiffed on some picks. I don't care if 162 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 2: you've got Bill Walsh and Belichick in his prime. You 163 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 2: can only do this is the NFL, Like you need 164 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 2: some of these guys to become players. 165 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 1: So I want to talk about Kansas City. So when 166 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 1: you have a dynas, every dynasty's got a weak spot. 167 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 1: Like when New England got into trouble was near the 168 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 1: end of the second dynasty when they just didn't have 169 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 1: enough receiver speed, when they couldn't separate. Tom had to 170 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 1: play perfect, nobody could get open. The famous sideline shot 171 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 1: of him screaming, somebody get open. That was the hole 172 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 1: in their dynasty. Outside of the Randy Moss years. You know, 173 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 1: they weren't electric down the field. It was more tight ends, 174 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 1: run game, Tom's efficiency, Tom's twenty three for twenty nine. 175 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 1: They just don't make mistakes. They beat you late. They 176 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 1: were never electric except the Randy Moss hears on the perimeter. 177 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:44,560 Speaker 1: Kansas City's weakness has been immature wide receivers and offensive 178 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:47,839 Speaker 1: line when they've been blown out, and it's only happened 179 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:50,560 Speaker 1: a couple times, both in Super Bowls. They've had left 180 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 1: tackle issues or offensive line depth problems. They're just missing 181 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:57,960 Speaker 1: good players. So I look at this year. Joe Tooney 182 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 1: was their best offensive lineman. He's not a replaceable. There's 183 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 1: nobody in the draft close. They're now going left tackle 184 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 1: for a guy that was a backup in San Francisco. 185 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:09,560 Speaker 1: This is to me the weakest O line they've had 186 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 1: entering a season. Can they make a move at the 187 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:16,960 Speaker 1: trade deadline, certainly possible. But if you go look at 188 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 1: their first ten games, John, even the bad teams they play, 189 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 1: the Giants now have Abdul Carter Dexter, Lawrence Tibodeau. On 190 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:29,439 Speaker 1: the other side, the Raiders have Max Crosby the Broncos. 191 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 1: They're better than Broncos led the NFL in sacks. The 192 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 1: Jaguars have a good defensive front. I'm just mentioning the 193 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:38,960 Speaker 1: games that look like wins. I looked at Kansas City 194 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 1: schedule early and I'm like they could have used some 195 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 1: of those games late, because you know, it takes a 196 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 1: while to create COH. You don't replace Joe Toney in 197 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 1: the preseason like you need snaps. I thought Kansas City 198 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 1: schedule was about as tough as the league deals to 199 00:09:56,800 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 1: to a Andy Reid Mahomes pairing. 200 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:02,320 Speaker 2: Well. I also think he'sier on players to play, you know, 201 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 2: games at noon in Kansas City than they have five 202 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 2: of their first eight games at prime time, and they 203 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 2: got to go to Bruzil, which I understand the international, 204 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:13,680 Speaker 2: especially now with streaming the Brazil thing. I don't quite 205 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:16,199 Speaker 2: get Colin going down a CYC. I don't quite understand 206 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 2: that market. But I'll say this about the Chiefs. Their 207 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:23,199 Speaker 2: first round draft pick would have been a top ten 208 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 2: pick had he not torn his knee. Well that's pretty 209 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:28,440 Speaker 2: big red flag towards knee. But assuming that he can 210 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 2: come back, they did get a very very talented guy 211 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 2: in Josh Simmons that can play left tackle. Now, whether 212 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 2: he's ready for the start, whether he goes un pop, 213 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 2: time will tell. But that was not just this year, 214 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 2: but over the course of the next several years they 215 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 2: might have found their starting left tackle. The BYU kid 216 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 2: that ultimately got benched and Tooney had to move to 217 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:49,680 Speaker 2: left tackle, I think they plan on moving him to guard. 218 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:52,680 Speaker 2: So Andie Reid has a long history of mix and 219 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 2: matching and figuring things out. I know you're high on 220 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:58,960 Speaker 2: the Chargers, and I am too. I'm a Jim Harbaugh homer. 221 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 2: Of course, they take a running back in the first 222 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:03,200 Speaker 2: round that'll end up being like a fourteen hundred yard 223 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 2: Rusher by a second year restar. But I just can't 224 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:10,559 Speaker 2: and I have been someone and I know these guys personally. 225 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:12,839 Speaker 2: I've bet against them twice down in the last two years, 226 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 2: against the Ravens and the Bills, and that was the playoffs, 227 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:17,599 Speaker 2: and I've been burned. We saw last year. Everyone was 228 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 2: nitpicking them week in week out. They won every freaking game. 229 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 2: Now the big difference between them and the Patriots is 230 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 2: Patriots benefited. Their division was pretty terrible, Like this version 231 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 2: of the Bills team was not even close. Miami was 232 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 2: a joke, right, So their division, this division's really really hard. 233 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 2: I mean, Pete Carroll, if he's the worst has the 234 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 2: worst team in your division, Like that's a problem. But 235 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 2: I think the Chiefs, you know, we throw that the 236 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:44,679 Speaker 2: word culture, I think sometimes gets thrown around two liberally. 237 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:48,680 Speaker 2: It's real in Kansas City, like they're winning. Understanding, Listen, 238 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:50,240 Speaker 2: there's gonna be a year when they don't make the 239 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 2: super Bowl and they get knocked out in the second round. 240 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 2: But it's gonna be hard. You're gonna have to kok 241 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:55,720 Speaker 2: him out, and I'm picking them to win the division 242 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 2: until they don't. Now, this is clearly I would say 243 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:00,040 Speaker 2: of the last five or six, you know, since the 244 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 2: homes era, gonna be the most difficult. But you know, 245 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:08,080 Speaker 2: come on the Giants week three at Jacksonville, Like I 246 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 2: get it, Sunday night, Monday night, big moment for those 247 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 2: two against Liam Cohen and this Jackson Dart maybe Russell Wilson. 248 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 2: I'm just picking the Chiefs in those games. 249 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 1: Is there anything that I mean? They have the vikings 250 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:25,200 Speaker 1: back to back in London. I don't like Minnesota like 251 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 1: everybody else. I think they're a fourth place team. Was 252 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 1: there anything about the schedule that jumped out to you? 253 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 2: I think when you look at I lump Minnesota and 254 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 2: Chicago in the same thing. I got thirty years of history. 255 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 2: Green Bay every year, for the most part is ten 256 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 2: plus wins right right. And the Lions now I think 257 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:44,680 Speaker 2: have established themselves. What happens in the playoffs, who knows, 258 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:46,560 Speaker 2: but they're going to be a double digit win team. 259 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 2: When you look at the Bears and you look at 260 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 2: Minnesota because of the divisions that they drew this year 261 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 2: in the rotation, it's hard and the pressure. Listen, this 262 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 2: Caleb thing, I'm sure we'll talk about it. A lot 263 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 2: of pressure on him, a lot of pressure on bears, 264 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:03,320 Speaker 2: a lot of pressure on McCarthy, and the pressure is 265 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 2: not like on DJ Moore or Justin Jefferson. It's squarely 266 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 2: on the quarterback. And these games, like you said, you open, 267 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:15,720 Speaker 2: you open your your NFL career at Chicago, Like that's 268 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 2: just that's tough. And hell, you could argue the same 269 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 2: thing on the flip side about at Caleb Williams, your 270 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:23,520 Speaker 2: first game with his new coach Monday night for everyone watching, 271 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:27,319 Speaker 2: Like these are just intense environments on these two quarterbacks. Now, 272 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 2: Caleb has some seasoning like he JG does not in 273 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:32,960 Speaker 2: terms of ever played a regular season game. But I 274 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 2: think those two schedules for those two guys. Not every 275 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 2: team in this division can win ten plus games. One 276 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:40,200 Speaker 2: of these teams is gonna go eight or nine or 277 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 2: worse right, it's gonna be one of those two teams. 278 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 2: I don't know which one. Like I know Kevin O'Connell 279 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 2: can be a head coach. I love the Vikings roster, 280 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 2: but man, this guy's never started a regular season game. 281 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 2: If you told me right now he's a top fifteen quarterback, 282 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 2: I'd be like, they'll win ten or eleven games, no problem. 283 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 2: But if you tell me it's rocky. I don't care 284 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:03,439 Speaker 2: how you could have ten justin Jefferson's If your quarterback 285 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 2: plays overwhelmed, it's hard. I mean we see it every year. 286 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:08,959 Speaker 2: Good teams and the quarterback plays. 287 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 1: Poor well, and the Packers drafted a first round round 288 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 1: wide receiver. The Lions are stacked offensively. The Bears has 289 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 1: been a fortune on the offensive line. JJ McCarthy's going 290 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 1: to have to throw the ball thirty five times. This 291 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 1: is not a defensive division. This is not the AFC North, 292 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 1: this is the NFC North, and it is going to 293 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 1: be a track meet. And so that's my question with 294 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy. I would feel differently if you were in 295 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 1: a different division. But Detroit is stacked offensively with the 296 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 1: best of line in the league. You can say what 297 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 1: you want about Ben Johnson is going to be better 298 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 1: with Caleb Williams than Matti. Everflus and Dolmen and Toney 299 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 1: changed the offensive line, and then and then you know, 300 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 1: Green Bay's Green Bay. They went and got another wider receiver, 301 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 1: which tells you we're going to make this Jordan love 302 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 1: thing work. And it wasn't terrible last year. There was 303 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 1: some bumps. So my thing is Karthi, who never threw 304 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 1: the ball at Michigan, is going to be asked to 305 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 1: throw the ball forty times a game a lot because 306 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 1: either they'll be trailing or they'll be in shootouts. This 307 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 1: is going to be a shootout division. So I just 308 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 1: don't love them with that is the marquee of the movie. 309 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 2: But do you feel comfortable. I mean, listen, we have 310 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 2: a strong recent history of these young offensive coordinators hitting 311 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 2: the ground, running and being stars. Some of them get 312 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 2: overwhelmed historically in the league, like Ben Johnson. It is 313 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 2: this is not an easy first job, right, It's like 314 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 2: solid with the Jets. A lot of people are watching. 315 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 2: There's a ton of hype the Caleb stuff is already 316 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 2: even though it's weird, right, everything we're talking about today 317 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 2: in this article is based on something eighteen months ago. 318 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 2: It's not like he just said this yesterday. But still, 319 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 2: I mean, this is something that carries with you. I 320 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 2: think there's a ton of pressure on him because I 321 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:51,040 Speaker 2: would say the same thing about Caleb, like he's just 322 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 2: gonna outduel the Laflor's offense and the Lions group. I 323 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 2: mean it's gonna be hard, Like he's gonna get in 324 00:15:57,520 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 2: some shootouts. You know, he kind of freelanced now, he's comfortable, 325 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 2: he has a history, he is used to. I've been 326 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:05,640 Speaker 2: in shootouts. I can play like that. JJ was not. 327 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 2: I mean JJ was on a team that I mean 328 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 2: was the big Ohio State is always built like an 329 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 2: SEC team, but Hardball built that thing like an SEC 330 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 2: team with unlimited NFL players where they hand the ball 331 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:19,400 Speaker 2: off and they play defense. So yeah, that's right, one 332 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 2: of those two teams. I got to give it a 333 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 2: little more time, but it's just not going to go 334 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 2: as well as the hype because the expectations. I would say, 335 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 2: for I mean for Minnesota, they have a what do 336 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 2: you think a top six to seven roster in the 337 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 2: NFL minus the quarterback. I mean, they got one of 338 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 2: the better teams in the NFL top to Bobo. And 339 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 2: I'd say the Bears have a pretty damn good roster too. 340 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 1: Oh. I totally think I think Chicago's offensive you go 341 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 1: line tight end, receivers and Ben Johnson I just don't see, 342 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 1: you know, I mean, go look at Hackett to Sean Payton. 343 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 1: It was a touchdown to eight points a game. And 344 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 1: I think eber Flews to Ben Johnson, is probably somewhere 345 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 1: between a field goal six points a game. 346 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:04,159 Speaker 2: But here's the thing, though, Colin's and this is what 347 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:06,920 Speaker 2: I get back to with the coordinator Ben with Detroit, 348 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 2: who was just became like Kyle Shanahan or mcpayh or whoever. 349 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 2: All he had to worry about was the place right 350 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:16,199 Speaker 2: now on Monday. What happens when your backup safety got 351 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:19,919 Speaker 2: a dui on Tuesday? Hey, this guy turns out he 352 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 2: shattered his ankle. Like you have all this other stuff coming. 353 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 2: You can't just sit there and scheme plays NonStop, especially 354 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 2: the first time head coach, and then when the game's 355 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 2: going on, you got to manage the cl You got 356 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 2: a lot going on for the first time ever. It's 357 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:36,639 Speaker 2: just a tougher transition. And that's where Kevin O'Connell to me, 358 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 2: has a big advantage. He is used to just being 359 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:42,199 Speaker 2: the play caller, slash the boss. 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So I went 412 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 1: on Chicago radio a year ago before the draft, and 413 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:11,440 Speaker 1: I don't do a lot of local radio shows because 414 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:13,919 Speaker 1: I don't know who the people are, and you know 415 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:17,200 Speaker 1: they you can get burned. But I was I knew 416 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:18,639 Speaker 1: I was going to move to Chicago. So I go 417 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 1: on the Chicago radio station. I forget which one and 418 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:27,680 Speaker 1: and I say, you know, I'm being told that it's 419 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:31,399 Speaker 1: Caleb Williams. Would ideally, his dad would not want him 420 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 1: to go to Chicago, but he's going to bite the 421 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 1: bullet and he loves the city and he wants to 422 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 1: He wants to be the first Great Bears quarterback. Well, 423 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 1: I go off the air and somebody sends me something 424 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 1: or a clip or something where they basically dogged my sources. 425 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 1: Coward doesn't know anything. Well, it comes out Seth Wickersham 426 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 1: basically today came out and said, yeah, basically, his dad 427 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 1: didn't want him to go there. He's got multiple quotes, 428 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:58,679 Speaker 1: and I'm like, well, may have been that Seth and 429 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:02,400 Speaker 1: I had some of the same sources. Was he had agents, 430 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:04,399 Speaker 1: apparently Seth that talked to his dad. There had been 431 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:07,439 Speaker 1: multiple agents. I didn't get it from Caleb's dad, but 432 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 1: I did get it from people very close to Caleb, 433 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:13,639 Speaker 1: and so I think it was the same station reached 434 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:14,960 Speaker 1: out and said, hey, you want to come back on 435 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:16,840 Speaker 1: and spike the football. And I'm like, yeah, I'm gonna 436 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 1: pass on that. You know, I'm not bitter, but it's like, 437 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:21,399 Speaker 1: you know, if I give you that, if you if 438 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:23,879 Speaker 1: I give you the time, don't question my sources. You 439 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:26,439 Speaker 1: don't have to like my opinion. But you know, I 440 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 1: wouldn't go on and make stuff up. So and the 441 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 1: truth was, and. 442 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 2: I was Caleb kind of come out or like some 443 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 2: of his people right away after you said that and 444 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:37,439 Speaker 2: say it's kind of bad, right. 445 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, Well they said we're good, We're good. Of course 446 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 1: they did. They don't and I and you know, like 447 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:47,720 Speaker 1: I knew the game. That's why I didn't react to 448 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:49,359 Speaker 1: that I knew what was going on. I knew what 449 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:52,159 Speaker 1: I'd been told. I knew it was the truth. Somebody 450 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 1: who had been good never burned me. It was fourth 451 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 1: or fifth time I've gotten good information from somebody. But 452 00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:00,480 Speaker 1: the point was I didn't blame him. I said, yeah, 453 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:02,199 Speaker 1: if my son was a quarterback, I wouldn't want them 454 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:03,720 Speaker 1: to play for the Bears. They've never had a four 455 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 1: thousand yard pastor. That's literally impossible. That's like, right, driving 456 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:11,119 Speaker 1: a car for your entire life and never having like 457 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:13,440 Speaker 1: a parking ticket or a speeding ticket. It's just gonna happen. 458 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:17,480 Speaker 1: It's inevitable, right like and so, and when the story 459 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 1: came out today, my take is it just doesn't bother me. 460 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:24,439 Speaker 1: Like they looked into you know, what could they do 461 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:27,119 Speaker 1: legally and they said, yeah, the only way around it 462 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 1: is just to do an l way and go public 463 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:32,680 Speaker 1: and let's just not do it. But it doesn't bother me. 464 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:35,400 Speaker 1: We've got an Elie situation. We've got an L way, 465 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:40,120 Speaker 1: and I think the Bears are historically unique. It's they've 466 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:42,919 Speaker 1: just never done that position, right, Does it bother you? 467 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:46,160 Speaker 1: Now that Seth Wickersham comes out and says, yeah, they 468 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:48,080 Speaker 1: thought about making a stink. 469 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 2: No. I mean, ultimately, I don't really give a shit, 470 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 2: but I would say this. I don't think it helps 471 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:55,919 Speaker 2: scalem And I always take the stance of like, I 472 00:22:56,000 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 2: never blame you know, wives parents, their relationship with a 473 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 2: player is so much different than everyone else, right, so 474 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:10,640 Speaker 2: they are so much closer to the son emotionally. It 475 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:13,439 Speaker 2: doesn't bother me. I know people with Oklahoma. I was 476 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 2: hearing a long time ago that his dad's a lot. 477 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 2: That's part of college sports. You deal a lot with 478 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 2: the parents. In the pros, nobody wants to hear from 479 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:23,680 Speaker 2: mom or dad. 480 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 1: Not a soul. 481 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 2: We're paying Caleb forty million dollars guaranteed, let's throw thirty touchdowns. 482 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 2: And I think his comments sometimes like, you know, he's 483 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 2: trying to be a support of dad. No one has 484 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:40,679 Speaker 2: any issue with that. Jayden Daniels's mom forces all the 485 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 2: floozies to stay away from her son. Well, guess what 486 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 2: her son's playing really well in football. She doesn't talk 487 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:48,959 Speaker 2: anything about his professional life. It's all personal stuff. This 488 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:53,720 Speaker 2: guy comes out and makes comments about the CBA is unconstitutional, 489 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 2: the rookie Wade scale, Well, why do they create a 490 00:23:56,600 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 2: rookie Wade scale because guys like JaMarcus Russell were scared 491 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 2: in the league where the veterans weren't getting the money. 492 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:05,399 Speaker 2: So Caleb, you know if that rookie Wade scale hadn't 493 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 2: been so when you make comments like that, people kind 494 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 2: of look side eyed. 495 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:09,359 Speaker 1: Listen. 496 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:11,440 Speaker 2: And the other thing that really comes through is Ryan 497 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:13,639 Speaker 2: Poles is quoted in there like we're taking you, buddy, 498 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:16,639 Speaker 2: so get ready like this you talk about this a 499 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 2: lot player empowerment in the NFL doesn't really roll like that. 500 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:22,399 Speaker 2: I would say this if you're Ryan Poles, Like, you 501 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:24,919 Speaker 2: know Adam Peters. Do you think Adam Peters right now 502 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:28,360 Speaker 2: would trade Jayden Daniels for Caleb Williams in this situation? 503 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:31,359 Speaker 2: And here's the other thing. A lot of cabs Caleb 504 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:33,639 Speaker 2: wasn't making these comments about the CBA are going to 505 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 2: the UFL. Is coming from his dad. But all these 506 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:38,879 Speaker 2: comments get aggregated and a lot of the players in 507 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:40,760 Speaker 2: the league see this and they're like, who does this 508 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:43,439 Speaker 2: kid think he is? And I just think it adds pressure. 509 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 2: And again this is I would be more worked up 510 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 2: if these comments came last week or two weeks ago. 511 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 2: This was last January February, before he got into the NFL. 512 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:56,160 Speaker 2: But I'm sorry, it just does not help his situation. 513 00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:59,119 Speaker 2: It adds pressure, It just adds a lot of craziness 514 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:02,159 Speaker 2: to this situation. New coach and they get to start fresh. 515 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:03,960 Speaker 1: But I just think that. 516 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:06,919 Speaker 2: Like, we just need to calm down and just and 517 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:09,639 Speaker 2: just win some games and throw some touchdowns before you start. 518 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:12,199 Speaker 2: Remember last year the equity talk, we want in on 519 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:14,960 Speaker 2: the franchise, You're going to go to the UFL and 520 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 2: sit out of You're like, give me a break, you know. 521 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:20,919 Speaker 2: And again this is his dad, not it's Caleb. It's 522 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 2: not saying I'm going to the UFL. And at the 523 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 2: end of the day, all these comments didn't come true. 524 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 2: He just allowed he went to the Bears and what 525 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:30,879 Speaker 2: they were not wrong about the coaching staff. I mean 526 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:33,480 Speaker 2: that was a disaster, which we all knew coming in. 527 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:36,879 Speaker 2: But I think sometimes with a very aggressive parent like this, 528 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 2: and I haven't seen a quote from Caleb's dad since 529 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:42,200 Speaker 2: he got in the league, you gotta be careful about 530 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 2: saying some of this stuff because your son has to 531 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:48,560 Speaker 2: cash those checks on the field. So I just think 532 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 2: if you're the Bears, like you're like oh my god 533 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:53,840 Speaker 2: when you see this come out, because again, didn't he 534 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:56,440 Speaker 2: write a book on a bunch of quarterbacks and this 535 00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:59,199 Speaker 2: is the thing that gets cut and this is you know, 536 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:03,639 Speaker 2: the headlines going viral, getting just sent around. I'm telling you, 537 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,199 Speaker 2: Adam Peters goes to bed like out my quarterbacks just 538 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:10,439 Speaker 2: no issues, no problems, and it's just sometimes it's your family. 539 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 2: But man, is you just don't want to to deal 540 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:15,359 Speaker 2: with any of this, especially when you're not making place. 541 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:17,240 Speaker 2: I mean, it just did not go well. 542 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:21,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he's set up for success now. I 543 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 1: mean we were talking about in the show today Tua 544 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:27,040 Speaker 1: and Jared Goff had bad first years in bad relationships 545 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:29,920 Speaker 1: with coaches or at least coach coaches that didn't get them. 546 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 1: I do think there's more good offensive coaching than ever 547 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 1: before in the league. And your second or third team 548 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 1: Gino Smith, Sam Darnold, Baker, Mayfield. You know, Baker got 549 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 1: Liam Cohen and McVeigh after Freddie Kitchens, like it does 550 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:45,040 Speaker 1: sometimes take a while. It used to be if your 551 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:48,120 Speaker 1: first place didn't work, there just weren't that many great 552 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 1: offensive coaches in the league and they weren't leaving places 553 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:53,400 Speaker 1: where they were located now, guys, it's a much more 554 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:57,720 Speaker 1: mobile society. There's good offensive coaches. If you have one 555 00:26:57,840 --> 00:26:59,360 Speaker 1: or two good years at a place, you're a head 556 00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:02,360 Speaker 1: coach if you're not off coach. So you can actually 557 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 1: have a hiccup in your first stop and maybe your second, 558 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:08,440 Speaker 1: and maybe get a third shot. So I think that 559 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 1: bows well for Caleb. Like a Jared Goff, I didn't 560 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,400 Speaker 1: think he stood a chance last year. I think it's 561 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 1: much more set up to succeed the You know, we 562 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:23,399 Speaker 1: talk a lot Aaron Rodgers, and I know it's tiring, 563 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:27,439 Speaker 1: but and I really don't care where he goes. If 564 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:30,360 Speaker 1: he retired, great, if he goes to Pittsburgh find they're 565 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:34,919 Speaker 1: a third place team, I don't really care. And he 566 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 1: has some personal drama situation in his life, so I 567 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:39,520 Speaker 1: can have some sympathy for that. I don't really care 568 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 1: that if you were in the league and worked in 569 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:47,880 Speaker 1: the league, if he just retired, how would Pittsburgh view 570 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 1: him if they were caught off guard. 571 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:52,679 Speaker 2: I just don't think they had many other options. Like 572 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:55,439 Speaker 2: I don't think that they are losing a bunch of 573 00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:58,240 Speaker 2: sleep over the situation, which sounds crazy, but we have 574 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:01,440 Speaker 2: a pretty good sample size now knowing that they think 575 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:04,160 Speaker 2: they could get around I don't know somehow not having 576 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:08,080 Speaker 2: attempting to get a Joe Burrow, Lamar Jackson, just drafting quarterbacks. 577 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:10,440 Speaker 2: You're in, you're out. But at this point in time, Colin, 578 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:14,240 Speaker 2: it's May fifteenth. I mean, what are we doing here? 579 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,480 Speaker 2: I mean I think they have to at least have 580 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 2: come to grips with like everything's kind of on the 581 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:23,119 Speaker 2: table here that they cannot for a very old school organization. 582 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:25,600 Speaker 2: I saw a quote from I don't think he's the 583 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:28,600 Speaker 2: Papa Rooney. He's like the sixty year old Rooney that said, 584 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 2: you know, we don't love playing at night late in 585 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 2: the season. It's like, well, that usually means you're good. 586 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 2: This comes with the territory. You think Andy Reid wants 587 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:37,720 Speaker 2: to play all these night games. No, but it comes 588 00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:41,280 Speaker 2: with being the Chiefs, you're the Pittsburgh Steelers. I just 589 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 2: think they have gotten to this position where it's hard. 590 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 2: I mean, look at the Saints. Drew Brees retires and 591 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:50,160 Speaker 2: they're just going through quarterbacks. They tried to Derek that failed. 592 00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 2: Now they're in this weird position with a twenty eight 593 00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:55,760 Speaker 2: year old rookie. It's not like an easy solution, but 594 00:28:55,800 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 2: they've shown their true colors of like their organizational philosophy 595 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 2: is run the ball and play defense. That is Bruce Arians. 596 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:06,720 Speaker 2: When Roethlisberger was turning into a star, the Rooney family 597 00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:08,720 Speaker 2: was not happy with them throwing the ball so much. 598 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:11,960 Speaker 2: That was when they were winning the Super Bowl. You know, 599 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 2: the organizational philosophy does not start with Mike Tomlin. 600 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 1: It starts with the Rooney family. 601 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:20,560 Speaker 2: Play d run the ball. I mean, look, they draft 602 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:23,360 Speaker 2: that running back who I like, the Iowa kid, and 603 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:26,760 Speaker 2: they drafted defensive tackle in the first They've been doing 604 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:28,960 Speaker 2: the same thing since well before I was alive, and 605 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:30,680 Speaker 2: I think they are going to be doing it well 606 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:34,240 Speaker 2: after Tomlin's gone one day. So I think whether Rogers 607 00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:36,480 Speaker 2: shows up or whether they Mason Rudolph hands the ball 608 00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:39,000 Speaker 2: to Caleb Johnson and they try to stuff the run 609 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 2: with Harmon and TJ. Watt like that's how they're gonna play, 610 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:44,240 Speaker 2: which is insane, But you could argue even if he 611 00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 2: shows up, they're gonna beat Joe Burrow and Lamar Jackson 612 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:50,239 Speaker 2: some of these teams. So it's the Bills. What are 613 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:53,480 Speaker 2: we even talking about? They are kind of stuck they're 614 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:58,080 Speaker 2: like the better version of the post Peyton Drew Brees Saints, 615 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:01,000 Speaker 2: but it still doesn't get you any and it leads 616 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:03,200 Speaker 2: actually to a lot more animosity where it's like what 617 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:06,440 Speaker 2: are we doing? Like how often are we celebrating he's 618 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:08,880 Speaker 2: never had a losing season. Yes, we know he's really 619 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:12,440 Speaker 2: good coach, But like, if the organization we don't pick 620 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:14,880 Speaker 2: or go after young quarterbacks, why not just draft a 621 00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:17,440 Speaker 2: quarterback every year in the top couple of rounds just 622 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:19,640 Speaker 2: until you figure it out. When you're in this position, 623 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:22,880 Speaker 2: you got to take some swings. Let's just resign Mason 624 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:25,240 Speaker 2: Rudolph and trade for this, Like this is not gonna work. 625 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 1: Guys. Well, just the fact they keep going back to 626 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:32,640 Speaker 1: Mason Rudolph, he's I mean, they just they It tells 627 00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 1: you they're just uncomfortable with risk offensively. 628 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:37,680 Speaker 2: Well, they tried last year, right, which was a little 629 00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:39,360 Speaker 2: out of there. They're like, we'll get these two guys 630 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:41,800 Speaker 2: and it ended and there you could tell like that 631 00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:45,960 Speaker 2: wasn't really our thing, you know, Russell big personality, fields 632 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:49,720 Speaker 2: got some limitations, but ideally probably not a starter for us. 633 00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:52,480 Speaker 2: They didn't like that, and I give them credit for trying. 634 00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:55,480 Speaker 2: What they tried, they punted on Kenny Pickett, and clearly 635 00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:57,800 Speaker 2: they're like, we're not doing that thing again. Too many 636 00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:00,760 Speaker 2: people talking about there, but now they're waiting on Aaron Rodgers. 637 00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:03,440 Speaker 2: I don't know, just they're in just a weird space 638 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:06,000 Speaker 2: for a franchise that. I mean, what would you say, 639 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:08,920 Speaker 2: in your lifetime one of the better run American sports 640 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:10,840 Speaker 2: franchises in America? 641 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:15,160 Speaker 1: I thought, until maybe twelve years ago, I thought you 642 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:18,440 Speaker 1: could argue they were the best overall franchise most of 643 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:23,880 Speaker 1: my life. I mean I started watching football nineteen seventy two, 644 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:27,120 Speaker 1: but from like nineteen seventy four, seventy five until maybe 645 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:29,040 Speaker 1: ten to twelve years ago, I thought they were in 646 00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:33,200 Speaker 1: the you know, they were in the argument with the Patriots. 647 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:35,560 Speaker 1: You know, Patriots had down years but the Brady years, 648 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:38,360 Speaker 1: but I mean, they were just like well run and 649 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:42,400 Speaker 1: now there it's I always find this this ish is 650 00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:46,720 Speaker 1: fascinating to me. Old successful people that can't age well, 651 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:50,719 Speaker 1: and it's it's just really really weird to me. When 652 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:52,720 Speaker 1: you like, when you see Bobby Knight, I'm not going 653 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 1: to do the one and done? Why not do just 654 00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:58,520 Speaker 1: want to win games? Like I don't get it or Belichick, 655 00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:01,760 Speaker 1: Matt Patricia's the offensive court bill. You're smarter than that. 656 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:05,320 Speaker 1: What are you doing? Like, it's fascinating to me that 657 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:08,840 Speaker 1: all the people in the building in Pittsburgh and they 658 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:13,120 Speaker 1: can't get the offensive line right, they can't get quarterback right, 659 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:15,960 Speaker 1: and they're not I mean, Canny Pikett, I guess was 660 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:19,680 Speaker 1: a swing. But it's like I just it's not that hard. 661 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:25,240 Speaker 1: I think sometimes I underestimate the gap between Like Sean 662 00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:29,560 Speaker 1: McVeigh I did this the other day. The Steelers are 663 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:33,920 Speaker 1: the opposite of the Rams. The Rams spend money on 664 00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:38,520 Speaker 1: a young, progressive offensive coach, Steelers on an old defensive coach. 665 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:42,920 Speaker 1: One team's made the playoffs like like seven of the 666 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:47,360 Speaker 1: last eight years. The Steelers haven't won a playoff game 667 00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:51,160 Speaker 1: in like eight years or something. You know, One team 668 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:54,120 Speaker 1: spends no money on defense. One leads the league in 669 00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:59,960 Speaker 1: spending on defense. One never takes a chance on character guys, 670 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:02,160 Speaker 1: like they just they don't put them on their draft board. 671 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:06,680 Speaker 1: One makes a living off that. It's it's almost if 672 00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:09,400 Speaker 1: I can't quite figure the Steelers out. They want character, 673 00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:14,640 Speaker 1: but nobody's had more divas and high maintenance offensive guys 674 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:18,280 Speaker 1: than the Steelers. They want to win, but then they 675 00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:20,560 Speaker 1: don't take care of the number one position like I 676 00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:23,960 Speaker 1: just I find them. I feel like there's a messaging 677 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:28,520 Speaker 1: issue in the building. And like Omark Kahan, my sources 678 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:31,200 Speaker 1: don't consider him like a great general manager. 679 00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:35,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know that what was his name, Colbert, the 680 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:37,960 Speaker 2: former GM, I think was really really highly thought of 681 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:41,040 Speaker 2: in the NFL circles by personnel people. I think people 682 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:43,600 Speaker 2: would say that they've dropped off, you know, in terms 683 00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:46,760 Speaker 2: of that just the group Kahn and his group relative 684 00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:49,800 Speaker 2: to Colbert, I would say. The other thing is, you know, 685 00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:54,160 Speaker 2: once the Ravens moved to Baltimore and Aussie and DaCosta 686 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:57,000 Speaker 2: was with him the whole time they had you know, 687 00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:58,840 Speaker 2: during the two thousand now they had really good teams, 688 00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:00,920 Speaker 2: but they basically played the Steel every year. They became 689 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:03,920 Speaker 2: their rival, and they copied the way they did things 690 00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:08,560 Speaker 2: like toughness, hardcore guys, playing any environment, toughest team in 691 00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:11,520 Speaker 2: the league. And now over the last decade plus, it's 692 00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:14,000 Speaker 2: like we do it better than you, so we had 693 00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:16,799 Speaker 2: a front row seat. It's like you're our main competition 694 00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:20,239 Speaker 2: in business. We know exactly how you do things. Yet 695 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:22,640 Speaker 2: we're a little more open minded and progressive to the 696 00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:25,880 Speaker 2: way that we scout coach, however, and we've now lacked 697 00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:28,400 Speaker 2: you because that's what it feels like. The Ravens are 698 00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:32,279 Speaker 2: running circles around them, and hell, the Ravens can't even 699 00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:34,080 Speaker 2: get over the hump in the playoffs. But they're in 700 00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:37,239 Speaker 2: a different universe than the Steelers. And then the Bengals 701 00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:38,879 Speaker 2: listen to a lot of people make fun of them, 702 00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:41,360 Speaker 2: but they've hit on some players over the years, and 703 00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:44,440 Speaker 2: getting Joe Burrow changed that franchise, regardless of how weird 704 00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:47,600 Speaker 2: and rinky dink it can feel sometimes, but I do 705 00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:51,919 Speaker 2: think the Ravens kind of getting their blueprint and then 706 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:56,520 Speaker 2: modernizing it like the Internet version, has really hurt if 707 00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:58,360 Speaker 2: the Ravens were a little bit more of just a 708 00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:00,960 Speaker 2: regular run of the mill ten to eleven win team, 709 00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:04,560 Speaker 2: but they just have become a dominant NFL team, especially 710 00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:07,759 Speaker 2: with Lamar. It has made the Steelers look a lot worse. 711 00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:11,120 Speaker 2: I mean, look, anyone could have had Derrick Henry right. 712 00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:14,200 Speaker 2: They got him for eight million dollars. Boom, he goes there, 713 00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:16,360 Speaker 2: he runs for whatever, almost two thousand yards and they 714 00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:18,759 Speaker 2: give him an extension. It's like no brainer. It's like 715 00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:21,200 Speaker 2: shouldn't the Steelers have been all over a guy like that. 716 00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:23,080 Speaker 2: I mean, they were kicking Najie Harris to the curb. 717 00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:25,879 Speaker 2: And I just think that the Steelers are just kind 718 00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:28,520 Speaker 2: of in this weird spot. They're too well run and they, 719 00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:30,319 Speaker 2: you know, Mike Tomins is too high level of a guy. 720 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:32,960 Speaker 2: They're never gonna suck like. They're never gonna have a 721 00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:34,279 Speaker 2: season where it's like, oh, this is the year they 722 00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:38,560 Speaker 2: drafted six This is not gonna happen. But drafting sixteenth 723 00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:41,239 Speaker 2: to twentieth every year is not a great place to 724 00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:43,960 Speaker 2: be either, because they're doing it basically every year for 725 00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:46,399 Speaker 2: what a decade plus. They haven't won a playoff game 726 00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:51,040 Speaker 2: since they beat Kansas City in the second round. I 727 00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:54,040 Speaker 2: think that was Roethlisberger, Antonio Brown and levey On Bell 728 00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:56,319 Speaker 2: where they're star offensive players a long time. 729 00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:02,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, last sixteen years, Ravens, including playoffs, have won 730 00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:04,120 Speaker 1: the most games in that division, and that was about 731 00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:09,239 Speaker 1: I think Steve Bushatti bought the franchise twenty plus years ago, 732 00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:10,960 Speaker 1: but it took him a few years to get it right. 733 00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:13,960 Speaker 1: And to your point, they think they copied the Steelers 734 00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:16,479 Speaker 1: model a little bit. I mean, in that cold weather 735 00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:19,080 Speaker 1: part of the country. There are certain absolutes, like you 736 00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:21,319 Speaker 1: have to be able to run the football, you have 737 00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:24,400 Speaker 1: to play really good defense, you better have good offensive lines. 738 00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:26,000 Speaker 1: You're not going to be throwing the ball down the field. 739 00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:28,120 Speaker 1: In fact, I could argue before Za Flowers, I just 740 00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:31,719 Speaker 1: I didn't think Baltimore drafted wide receivers particularly well. They 741 00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:35,400 Speaker 1: drafted everything else exceptionally well. The Steelers draft wide receivers 742 00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:37,520 Speaker 1: exceptionally well, but they've had a lot of misses on 743 00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:41,040 Speaker 1: the offensive line and quarterbacks and other spaces. So it 744 00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:44,400 Speaker 1: is a weird franchise. Okay, this is just a little bit, 745 00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:50,520 Speaker 1: a little bit of schedule talk, and that's good. Enjoy it, 746 00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:51,120 Speaker 1: have a good weekend. 747 00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:52,400 Speaker 3: Everybody see you. 748 00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:57,239 Speaker 1: At the end of the season. There's only one team 749 00:36:57,239 --> 00:37:00,200 Speaker 1: that can call themselves NBA champs. Only one player can 750 00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:02,640 Speaker 1: call themselves the number one pick in the NFL draft. Well, 751 00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:06,360 Speaker 1: there's only one electric SUV worthy of the title, the Ultimate, 752 00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:10,440 Speaker 1: the All Electric BMWIX. What I love about the IX 753 00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:13,760 Speaker 1: is that it delivers legendary BMW performance. 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