1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:01,960 Speaker 1: In Europe, I could get to the hoop and I 2 00:00:01,960 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: could finish over with the guys easy. And then I 3 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:07,600 Speaker 1: came to the Phoenix Sons. You know, first practice, shack 4 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 1: was under the basket. 5 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 2: Here you go, Here we go, guys, We're back with 6 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:49,560 Speaker 2: a special edition of the Ogs. It's always good to 7 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 2: be to have my friends and family in the building. 8 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:52,160 Speaker 3: Yeah. 9 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 2: I know we don't look a like, but this is 10 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 2: my brother. If you know what you think about, that's 11 00:00:57,040 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 2: my brother. So I'm gonna say with both of my brothers. 12 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 2: I'm actually gonna say with two of my brothers about 13 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 2: what they look like. They gotta to do it. So 14 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:05,759 Speaker 2: I appreciate you going drugs in the building. The night 15 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 2: go the Dragon, the Dragon, Gogi, go Ron, all that 16 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 2: good ship man. 17 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:18,040 Speaker 1: Welcome to the O g show Shoulder, Iron Shoulder, About that. 18 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 2: Right, listen, let me tell you something. One of my 19 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 2: favorite teammates, and not because of his skill set, because 20 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:25,959 Speaker 2: the motherfucker toughest nails, tough at fucking nails. So this 21 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 2: is an honor for me to have him. And he's 22 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 2: also recently retired like myself. You know what I'm saying. 23 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:34,480 Speaker 1: Yep, Yeah, welcome to the club. 24 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 2: Don't worry about that oduck. He's been out, he's been 25 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 2: out the game. Don't worry about him. We've been out 26 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 2: the gain. 27 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 1: You know what, Mike could still play now. Just put 28 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 1: him in the corner and should that thing. 29 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 2: Man, you're right about that. You got to be able 30 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 2: to shoot that thing because show. 31 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 1: Plays on Mike with you better play. 32 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 4: So talk about it, man, he was your team. Like, 33 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 4: give me some ud stories. Man, We're gonna jump right 34 00:01:57,720 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 4: into it. 35 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 3: Give me man, because. 36 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 5: Everyone talks about he holding down. He did hold it out. 37 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 1: He did. 38 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 3: Let's go back to the bubble. Let's get Let's get 39 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 3: right back to the bubble man. 40 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 2: And obviously, you know, you think, obviously you've been in 41 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 2: the heat culture for you know, a period of time, 42 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 2: and it's always like, what's the secret to the success 43 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 2: and how does it work? Because when the people look 44 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 2: at the rosters and they don't see the talent that 45 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 2: they would expect us to have to have the success 46 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 2: that we have, they say the math and Mathew, just 47 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 2: go back to the bubble man, and just go back 48 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 2: to how close knit we are, how much time we 49 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 2: spend together, and how different that is because you've been 50 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 2: in a couple of situations. Obviously, you were drafted by 51 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 2: the Spurs, got traded to Phoenix, then you end up 52 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 2: in Houston, then you end up with us, and then 53 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 2: you know, I think it was Toronto after that. 54 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, we was already out. 55 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 2: You've been a couple of places. Tell us what was 56 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 2: special about being with the Heat and just go back 57 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 2: to that with. 58 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 1: The d What was special to me? It was like 59 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 1: being really close as a team. You know, we always 60 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 1: hang out. You know, we were like brothers. You know, 61 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 1: you have my back, I had, I don't know Tyler's 62 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:09,519 Speaker 1: bag has. We were there to help each other and 63 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 1: not every team is like that to be so close 64 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 1: and in the bubble. You know, we what I think 65 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 1: was the most important thing, Like we didn't fuck with 66 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:22,919 Speaker 1: anybody else. We just hang out. We just hang out us. 67 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 1: You know, we were we went, we went to practice, 68 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 1: from practice to lunch. We didn't say hi to nobody. 69 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 4: We were just so you helped me out because I 70 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 4: was too old, I wasn't in the bubble. So in 71 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 4: the bubble, like teams were like opposing teams. 72 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:41,839 Speaker 5: Were hanging out. Is that what you're saying, Yeah, yeah, 73 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 5: look what I'm saying. 74 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 1: But both, but they're just yeah, you can see like 75 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 1: from the window, we will play cards. When you see downstairs, 76 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 1: they were like two clippers, like two dollars. Guys. They 77 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 1: were just hanging out together. 78 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 2: Guys would gamble together, play cars together, you know, hang 79 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 2: out together, the water park, water park together. 80 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, playing golf, golf together. 81 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, we went by that ship. Yeah, well know about 82 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 3: that ship. 83 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 1: We were in the OG's room or Jimmy's room and 84 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 1: just play cards and you know, just hang out or. 85 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 5: That had to be long though. 86 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 1: Game. 87 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 5: That had to be long though, sitting in that bubble 88 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 5: doing that. 89 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:18,279 Speaker 1: It was ninety six days, ninety six. 90 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 3: Days, three months and three months. 91 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 5: And lost the finals. 92 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:24,040 Speaker 2: Yeah that was but you let's go back to that 93 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 2: because I don't think, well, if you understand we weren't 94 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 2: at full strength, how are you affected in that finals 95 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 2: with I. 96 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 1: Mean no, not even I mean, yes, the finals the most, 97 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:39,799 Speaker 1: but even my remember that my first uh the first 98 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:43,599 Speaker 1: we play against Indy. Yes, so first game, second game, 99 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 1: I was okay, and then I start to feel my heel. 100 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 1: I thought there was a Bruce Hill. So I had 101 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 1: a pain in my in my heel. Every morning that 102 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:53,600 Speaker 1: I woke up, I was like, oh my god, what 103 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 1: is this? And then you know, they told me that 104 00:04:56,760 --> 00:05:01,040 Speaker 1: it's just a bruce. But then every game was worse 105 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 1: and worse. I can feel like, you know, like something 106 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 1: is happening, so but I didn't know what. And on 107 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:14,279 Speaker 1: the end, you know, Brandon, they knew that I was 108 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:18,920 Speaker 1: a plant of aascieties and then it was just it 109 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 1: was getting worse. So you know, he told me that 110 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 1: he's like ten or fifteen percent of chance that he's 111 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 1: gonna snap. So I said, okay, I'm good with that. 112 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 1: You know, it's like I got a seventy five percent. 113 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 1: That's I'm gonna you know, I'm tough, I'm gonna I'm 114 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 1: gonna go through it. And yeah, I was on the pills. 115 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 1: Every game was harder and harder. But you know, that 116 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 1: was my life. You know, playoffs, he. 117 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 5: Said he was on the pills. That's so funny. 118 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 4: Shit, Remember well we we were back to the finals 119 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:50,039 Speaker 4: for three years in a row together. 120 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 5: I wasn't here the fourth year. 121 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 4: But it was like the running joke in Miami was 122 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 4: like before the game, there'd be like four or five 123 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 4: guys and they're getting ready to take a shot. 124 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, he stays on the pails. That's what I thought about. 125 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 5: Who's up? Max movie? 126 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 3: Everyone's basketball? Three straights at we're so broke down. 127 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 2: But when I told you, when you asked me because 128 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 2: I had the same injury, and I told you, I 129 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 2: was like, go ahead and pop that motherfucker. Yeah, yeah, 130 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:17,279 Speaker 2: you bet popped my playing a FasTIS you bet? I 131 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 2: was just popping it and continue to deal with that 132 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 2: pain that you're gonna deal with. 133 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 3: You pop that motherfucker. 134 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:24,719 Speaker 2: You do your own surgery. Yes, you pop that motherfucking 135 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:28,160 Speaker 2: do your own surgery. So obviously fast forward it did it? 136 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 3: Did it pop? 137 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 1: I don't remember it did Yeah? The first first I 138 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 1: only played five minutes of the first game of the finals. Yeah, 139 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 1: and it popped. It was I. I remember the play. 140 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 1: I was driving by Rondo and I just shared like 141 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 1: and and I asked him, did you kick me? You know? 142 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:47,160 Speaker 1: I was like, what is going on? And then I 143 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:51,039 Speaker 1: just started feeling like like a golf ball, like swelling 144 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 1: up under my y. 145 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:52,719 Speaker 5: I did that. 146 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 3: Uh. 147 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 4: I did it When I was playing for the Wizards 148 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 4: of Year. I was playing there, same thing. I was 149 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 4: making it. I was making a cut, hard cut, and 150 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 4: all your hear is I was like, damn, someone shooting 151 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 4: at me. And I took the next step. I said, 152 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 4: I was like my calf. I tore my calf muscle. 153 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 4: It was the same thing that hurts. 154 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 3: Your calf muscle for non athletic calf buster for athletic. 155 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 5: You ain't got I know this. I know, I know 156 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 5: it's this show. 157 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 2: You ain't gotta laugh at you be talking. 158 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 1: He was always stippy toes to shoot that. It's a 159 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 1: lot of stress. 160 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 2: And I'm talking ship. Killer was in the dunk contest. 161 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 2: Wasn't in the McDonald's All America. He was in the 162 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 2: du Yeah he was. I'm talking that ship. But Killer 163 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 2: has some. 164 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 4: Hey, so talk about growing up playing basketball the difference, 165 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 4: like right now, European basketball is really you know, pressing 166 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 4: what we're what what American basketball is, right you see 167 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 4: every draft you're starting to see it. You came you 168 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 4: came in before that was like the norm. Talk about 169 00:07:57,920 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 4: growing up playing basketball over there and what you think 170 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 4: the differences because you live here now with differences between 171 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 4: that and and and americanized. 172 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 2: Basketball and not just European Slovenia. You know about steak 173 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 2: Ass France. You know that I've been there. Yeah, I 174 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 2: know about Spain, I've been. I know about all these 175 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 2: places I've been. 176 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, I invited to come to Slovenia. He's like, 177 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 1: do you guys have cars over there? You still got horses? 178 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 3: Also, they got weeding? 179 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 1: They do. 180 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 2: I ain't going if they ain't got no weed. That's 181 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 2: not a vacation for me. That's too stressful. I stay here, 182 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 2: so talk about it real. 183 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:39,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, if I go back, you know, it's a way 184 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:44,559 Speaker 1: different environment because we don't have like colleges for basketball. 185 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 1: You go straight to the club. 186 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 5: So you know the club that he used to go to. No, no, no, 187 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 5: the titty club. 188 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:52,320 Speaker 1: I'm a basketball club. 189 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:58,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, they definitely got pick nipples in that cli pick 190 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:00,440 Speaker 2: nipples and pasty. 191 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 1: It's way different because you know, when I was fourteen, fifteen, 192 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 1: I was already playing with the grown man, fucking pro 193 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 1: you know, with Luca's dad. For example, here. 194 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:13,080 Speaker 5: Was Lucas dad was your freaking mentor. 195 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 1: He was a captain of our team and nice player. 196 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 1: He was nice, not nice like Luca, but his same size, 197 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 1: same same shot, no handles though, but yeah, he was nice. 198 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:27,199 Speaker 1: And then you know, when you're fifteen, sixteen years old, 199 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 1: you go with those guys to travel around to different 200 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:30,320 Speaker 1: countries playing. 201 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 5: So mom and dad just lets you go hang out 202 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 5: with yeah, twenty nine. 203 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 1: Year old, thirty year old man, I mean it was 204 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 1: already a job. Man paid what they pay you five 205 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 1: hundred euros a month, five hundred years. But that was 206 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 1: first day that I got a How were you? 207 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 3: I was fifteen five euros a month fifty. 208 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:55,320 Speaker 2: But you know, sure waiting and joyce spelled Slovenian joyce 209 00:09:56,160 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 2: about I had a fucking money, fifteen year old. 210 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 1: I know, but you know we got a coupons for 211 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 1: the meals to free food. That that was the number 212 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:11,320 Speaker 1: one for me, you know, food food. But yeah, you know, 213 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 1: you you're hanging out with the adults. You know, you 214 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:17,960 Speaker 1: come to the locker room. They're badass, naked, smoking cigars 215 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 1: and cigarettes. You know, you're like, what, you're fourteen fourteen, 216 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 1: you know, so it's fourteen. But they did they did 217 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 1: take care of us. You know, every time when you 218 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 1: go on the road trip or something, they would we 219 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:36,080 Speaker 1: would go out with them to the clubs. At fourteen 220 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 1: years old. They would take care of us. You know, Oh, 221 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:41,679 Speaker 1: he's with us, sounds like me, no, yeah, yeah, that's 222 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 1: how are you? And you know when you when you're 223 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 1: fourteen fifteen and you're playing against those guys, you have 224 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 1: to be tough because they're stronger, they you know, faster. 225 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:55,680 Speaker 1: But that's how that's how I learned to be tough 226 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 1: because I lost my tooth, I broke three times, my nose, 227 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:03,079 Speaker 1: you know, got stitches, and you know, that's just how 228 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 1: I grew up. 229 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:06,679 Speaker 4: So you play, you start at fourteen, you're going through 230 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 4: all this you're talking about, so how old are you? 231 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:12,319 Speaker 4: Then when you when you get drafted by San Antonio 232 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 4: and traded the Phoenix. 233 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 1: I was twenty. I was twenty. 234 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 5: I played six years over there like that. 235 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 1: Yes, I play. I play four years in Slovenia. Then 236 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 1: I signed with the Spain Taukaramica. So I moved to 237 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 1: Spain when I was eighteen by myself. At that team, 238 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:35,079 Speaker 1: I played with Pablo Prigioni with Louis Scola school. Okay, yeah, 239 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 1: I mean Mirza Tlito, which was there, you know, the 240 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 1: shoot of Houston. Yeah, so yeah, So I played there 241 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 1: for one year and then I come back to Slovenia 242 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:49,720 Speaker 1: because I signed with Union Olympia. We play EuroLeague. And 243 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 1: after that I got drafted The only workout that I 244 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 1: did for a team was a Phoenix Sans because I 245 00:11:57,280 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 1: had the same agent that Steve nashe did, Bill Duffy, 246 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:02,440 Speaker 1: And that was the only team that I want to 247 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 1: go there because of Steve and and yeah, then I 248 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:08,959 Speaker 1: got drafted and came to the state. 249 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 4: So talking about that though from fourteen to twenty obviously 250 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:15,680 Speaker 4: as a life experience, most American kids don't see it. 251 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 5: Well, what do you credit though? 252 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 4: Like, what do you credit the like the bast like's 253 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 4: basketball keeps coming up and there's been arguments on a 254 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 4: bunch of podcasts everywhere. Yeah, like European basketball is getting there, right, 255 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 4: so we need to getting there, like all the stuff. 256 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 4: It's becoming like a global sport obviously more and more. 257 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:31,319 Speaker 4: Like what do you credit that to? 258 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 1: Is that? Is that some of the stuff? Yeah, I do. 259 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 1: I credit this, and I credit because when you're young, 260 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 1: they teach you more as a system to know how 261 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:44,840 Speaker 1: to play the system. Now they don't give so much 262 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 1: attention about dribbling about like athleticism, but it's more like 263 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 1: when you at the young age, they already put you 264 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 1: in the system. You need to know how to play 265 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:55,679 Speaker 1: the system to play the right way and you know, 266 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:59,679 Speaker 1: pick and roll, spacing, where to hit the guy, and 267 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 1: I think so that's the the most fundamental, especially for 268 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 1: those Europeans. And then when you come to the NBA, 269 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 1: that's a different story because you have to deal with 270 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 1: the letticism and everything else. 271 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 5: So was that the hardest adjustment was the speed at Lessison. 272 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 1: You know, for me, the hardest thing was not athleticism. 273 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 1: I always like to play fast, you know, up up 274 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:24,680 Speaker 1: tempo game. But you know, I was not a good 275 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:29,439 Speaker 1: shoot as when when I was young. So because in Europe, 276 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 1: I could get to the hoop and I could finish 277 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 1: over the guys easy. And then I came to the 278 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 1: Phoenix Suns. You know, first practice, Shag was under the basket, 279 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 1: so I would go, I would penetrate, and I thought, 280 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 1: you I'm gonna, you know, lay it up, you know, 281 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:48,079 Speaker 1: blog blog, you know, like, okay, I need to change 282 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 1: the game. So then I had floor to mid range 283 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:54,440 Speaker 1: when I come to the heat three point line, you know. 284 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 1: So that was the hardest thing just to you know, 285 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 1: to kind of a learned when to shoot, how to 286 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 1: shoot him. 287 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 3: We wouldn't letting them forget a shot out. We played him. 288 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 2: I was trapped, were trapped a ship out of go around. 289 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 2: He coming out that picking roll, trap his ass. You know, 290 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 2: if they're gonna make him get off that much, you 291 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 2: won't get in the paint the day jack. 292 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 1: You know. It was funny. It was funny because when 293 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 1: we played the Heat, Oh my god, I was like ship, 294 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 1: I already knew what they're gonna do, you know, And 295 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 1: uh I always called cib to the pick and roll. 296 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 1: You know, he was a little bit slower. As soon 297 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 1: as Og got in a ship, he's shrapped. You know, 298 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 1: my average against the team the lowest is against the Heat. 299 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 3: Really yeah, I didn't know that sixteen points. 300 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 2: That's everything low average, Get the fuck no, but he 301 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 2: poinses as low against us, God. 302 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 1: Everything was higher like but against against Miami he was 303 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 1: always because of Og. 304 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 2: Put two on the ball, Put two on the ball, 305 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 2: come out that pick and roll. Getting down here. We 306 00:14:57,840 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 2: can't do ship with go right, you know what I'm saying, 307 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 2: So we put want the ball every time. I could 308 00:15:01,680 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 2: wait the trappers as I couldn't dug the trap as. 309 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 4: So, going back to doctor, I'm intrigued by this too. 310 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 4: I'm intrigued because with something that we don't know anything 311 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 4: about you. You play with Luca's dad. So you said 312 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 4: before we got on the show that you saw Luca 313 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 4: at two years old. 314 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 5: He's come around, so you know, yes. 315 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, he was like three two. He would come and watch, 316 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:26,720 Speaker 1: you know, he would be at practices. His mom would 317 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 1: bring him or his dad. And then when he was older, 318 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 1: like eight seven, he would he would be a bow 319 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 1: boy or come watch the game. So here you can see. 320 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 1: You know, we were champion and Luca is right there. 321 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 1: You know, you know every picture is Luca in the 322 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 1: green jersey. 323 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 5: That's him, that's Luca. 324 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 1: That's Luca. Yeah, that's crazy. Yeah, question, it's crazy. How 325 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 1: and even even back then when he would play, I 326 00:16:56,840 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 1: don't know he was he was ten eleven, and you 327 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 1: know he was so dominant him and then he would 328 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:07,160 Speaker 1: score like forty fifty sixty points. It's crazy. So he 329 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 1: was he was already a hooper. 330 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 3: You know, he was all he's sucking him, he is 331 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 3: fucking him. Did you know? Did you know he was 332 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 3: gonna be that dude when he got over here? Did 333 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:17,960 Speaker 3: you know? Yeah? 334 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 1: I know, you know when I know, I know twenty seventeen, 335 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 1: when we had a training camp for a national team 336 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 1: two months before your your basket and he was seventeen 337 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 1: and just watching him at practice, Oh my god. He 338 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:35,160 Speaker 1: would make some passes that I don't even know how 339 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 1: he you know how he was doing that, and his 340 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 1: IQ was was so good at seventeen, He's like I 341 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:45,160 Speaker 1: knew it. The only thing, the only thing I kind 342 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:49,120 Speaker 1: of questioned a little bit was his speed and everything 343 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:50,880 Speaker 1: for the NBA. 344 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 5: But you know now they having all speed him up 345 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 5: since he got in the league. 346 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:56,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, nobody, No, nobody speeds him up. 347 00:17:56,920 --> 00:17:59,400 Speaker 5: Can he win? Because I love his game, but can 348 00:17:59,440 --> 00:17:59,919 Speaker 5: he win it? 349 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:02,119 Speaker 1: I think so he can win. He just need to 350 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:07,440 Speaker 1: change a little bit, maybe trust more his teammates. I'm 351 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 1: not saying because he do pass the ball, but just 352 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 1: get off the ball a little bit more. And because 353 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 1: but because of you know, if you have the balls 354 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:20,919 Speaker 1: so much in your hands, you'll get tired. Yes, and 355 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:23,639 Speaker 1: then it's a long season, and even in the playoffs, 356 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 1: you know, I think, so that's too much. 357 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:30,960 Speaker 4: I'm very intrigued this year just go around with his 358 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:35,480 Speaker 4: Dallas Mavericks team because Lucas always had fucking King Kong 359 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:40,400 Speaker 4: balls like playoff basketball. He's been elite, right and obviously 360 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:43,200 Speaker 4: being through playoff experiences like we have, like your Star 361 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:45,359 Speaker 4: guys can win you three four games, which wins you 362 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 4: a series. They have two of those dudes, now they 363 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 4: can do it. It's gonna be interesting to see how 364 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:52,639 Speaker 4: that plays out with Kyrie and him, because Kyrie can 365 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 4: go win your two games, looking at win your two games, 366 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:56,679 Speaker 4: they can they can win you a serious So it's like, 367 00:18:56,880 --> 00:18:59,920 Speaker 4: now it's weird watching though. If you watch Dallas play, 368 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 4: and I know you guys are all watching it, like 369 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:04,199 Speaker 4: they're really just running two at those guys all the 370 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:06,159 Speaker 4: time and making other players beat them. It's gonna be 371 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 4: interesting to see how that plays out with PJ. Washington, 372 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:11,240 Speaker 4: who's been playing great and it's been over there playing Yeah, yeah, 373 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:13,679 Speaker 4: they've been playing so except donte X is playing. So 374 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 4: that team's gonna be interesting, man, because it's like those 375 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:17,480 Speaker 4: two dudes are dudes now. 376 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 1: Dudes dudes, And you can see the difference from last year. 377 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 1: I think I feel like Luca is giving the bond 378 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 1: more to Kyrie. So and and then you're always post 379 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 1: said like Stars gonna win you two or three games, 380 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 1: but then one game you play, it's gonna be it's 381 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:40,360 Speaker 1: gonna be open, and they're gonna have to make shots, 382 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 1: and they got to step the up. 383 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:44,119 Speaker 4: What do you think about the current Heat team? Now 384 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:45,879 Speaker 4: we're talking current basketball right now, what do you think 385 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:46,960 Speaker 4: of the current Heat team? 386 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:49,399 Speaker 1: I mean, you know with the hit is always they 387 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:51,960 Speaker 1: always gonna play tough. I mean, you know, they always 388 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 1: they always in the mix. I really do you know. 389 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:59,440 Speaker 1: I suppose he's a great coach, a lot of experience. Band. 390 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 1: He's already, y'all leader. You got Jimmy Tyler scout and 391 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 1: I just came back, you know, and then you have 392 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:10,439 Speaker 1: our role players that that you know, didn't know what 393 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 1: they need to do. I think so cool. He's now 394 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 1: the voice in the locker room. 395 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 2: Probably love yeah, love preach leadership at all levels. Yeah, 396 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:20,639 Speaker 2: somebody somebody gotta say something. 397 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 3: He's leadership at all levels. Somebody can say something. 398 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:27,440 Speaker 1: But you need to go back just before the game, 399 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:30,159 Speaker 1: like the thirty minutes before the toss up. You just 400 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:31,120 Speaker 1: have a speech for them. 401 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:31,800 Speaker 3: Every now and then. 402 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:33,919 Speaker 2: I am I'm there in the morning for practices and 403 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:35,720 Speaker 2: stuff like that. Sometimes I show up for the game, 404 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 2: but that's that's family time. Yeah, that's family time. My 405 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 2: kids got baseball and everything like that. But I do 406 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 2: have a question for you, because you ex playing the 407 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 2: history of your country. I didn't understand the history of 408 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 2: the split and everything. I'm just I went to school 409 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 2: for basketball, ladies and gentlemen. I did not go to 410 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 2: school for I did not go to school geography, but 411 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:57,320 Speaker 2: what they call them out geography. 412 00:20:57,280 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, I did not go to school for that. I 413 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:00,679 Speaker 3: might watch a little animal playing, but I don't pay. 414 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 2: So it's plain and split because you explained the history 415 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 2: of your country and I didn't understand you. 416 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 1: So the country before was Yugoslavia. 417 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:10,680 Speaker 3: Yes, so did you. 418 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 2: Notice Yeah, oh, I guess, go ahead, go ahead, go ahead, 419 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:16,440 Speaker 2: cook bad. 420 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:20,719 Speaker 1: So as Yugoslavia, you have what five or six countries. 421 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:26,640 Speaker 1: So with Slovenia now it's Slovenia, Croatia, Bosnia, Serbia, Montenegro 422 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:30,959 Speaker 1: and Macedonia. Six countries and you know, and so the 423 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:35,199 Speaker 1: war was when they was ninety one, we split. So 424 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 1: all these countries split and then uh, you know, back 425 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:43,240 Speaker 1: in the day, imagine the national team you had Rajen Petrovich, Coage, 426 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:49,400 Speaker 1: Dina Raja Vladvas. You know, even now, even now, if 427 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 1: it would still exist the same country, you would have 428 00:21:51,680 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 1: Luk Jokivich, Bogdanovich boy, and Bogan Maranovich know that would be. 429 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:09,640 Speaker 3: Against you guys to watch. That'd be great, will be fun. 430 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:14,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, But me, I was, uh, you know, we have 431 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 1: a lot of pride in basketball, especially that region number 432 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:20,200 Speaker 1: one sport is basketball. 433 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:22,199 Speaker 5: So not in close soccer. 434 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:24,680 Speaker 4: Second second, yeah, because you said you grew up playing 435 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:26,199 Speaker 4: soccer for so I. 436 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:29,159 Speaker 1: Grew up playing soccer until eleven. Then I had a 437 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 1: leg injury and I stopped playing. And one of my 438 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:36,359 Speaker 1: best friends was playing basketball and he asked me if 439 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:38,960 Speaker 1: I want to go and watch practice. So I went 440 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:41,199 Speaker 1: to see that. I was sitting on the bleachers and 441 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 1: they had nine guys and coaches like you up there. 442 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:47,359 Speaker 1: We need one more guy, Can you come down and play? 443 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 1: I said, yeah, why not? And that's why I started 444 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 1: playing basketball. 445 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 5: All your kids at home and the dragon was born. 446 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:52,680 Speaker 3: All your kids at home. 447 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 2: You heard this ship, just stay ready to say you 448 00:22:55,080 --> 00:23:00,680 Speaker 2: ain't got to get rid of mother literally just to practice. 449 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 2: And they needed extra to the league. And that is 450 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:04,960 Speaker 2: one of the greatest players that ever come out this country. 451 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:07,879 Speaker 2: And the Dragon was crazy because. 452 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:09,920 Speaker 3: I'm not mistaken your country the smallest. 453 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:12,120 Speaker 1: Now he's the smart people. 454 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 3: And now that's my whole country, the whole country. 455 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:17,720 Speaker 1: So at one point we had eight NBA. 456 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:20,439 Speaker 5: Players and out of two million people, so was. 457 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 1: Pretty much. 458 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:27,440 Speaker 5: It was good to man, he. 459 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:36,440 Speaker 1: Was so rashaw pretty much that was Ben. That was 460 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:40,520 Speaker 1: me and uh Er Sloker. I don't know if you 461 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:44,200 Speaker 1: guys know he played for Toronto one year and uh 462 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 1: that's crazy. Yeah, eight six, seven, six, seven, seventh players. 463 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,200 Speaker 2: And that's why when you guys were able to win 464 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 2: in the Olympics and you became a champion, you were 465 00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:57,880 Speaker 2: the leader of that team. That's why it was so big. Yeah, 466 00:23:57,960 --> 00:23:59,879 Speaker 2: the country at that time. You just tap into how 467 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:02,159 Speaker 2: that was for your country, how historically that was. 468 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:06,639 Speaker 1: That was huge. That was huge because in the past 469 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:08,879 Speaker 1: we had a lot of good players for the people. 470 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 5: For me too, what year was. 471 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 1: This, twenty seventeen seventeen. Yeah, I was with the Heat 472 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:17,159 Speaker 1: And you know I play every So I played fifteen 473 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 1: years in NBA, so all probably out of fifteen fourteen years, 474 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:23,400 Speaker 1: I always played for my national team. So no summers. 475 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:25,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, I was gonna say explain that to people because 476 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:27,120 Speaker 4: I like, as you go through it, they don't understand, 477 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 4: like you play a grouling NBA schedule. Yeah, and then 478 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:33,280 Speaker 4: the national team is every summer, every summer. 479 00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:35,679 Speaker 5: Yeah, and practice is not like it's not always. 480 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:38,399 Speaker 1: Like two months. Yeah, you ain't getting no younger. Yeah, explain, 481 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:42,639 Speaker 1: we ain't getting younger. But so let's say we finished 482 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 1: playoffs around but May and May or June. Then I 483 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:50,399 Speaker 1: would get back home and I would take off like 484 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 1: two or three weeks, and then I'm back with the 485 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 1: national team. So then the national team is preparing for 486 00:24:56,240 --> 00:25:00,240 Speaker 1: let's say for European Championship or for World Championship, or 487 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 1: you have qualification games for Olympics or something. So every 488 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:07,719 Speaker 1: summer we had something. And what was really good for 489 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:10,359 Speaker 1: me because I was always in shape. You know, I 490 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:13,159 Speaker 1: didn't take off like two months or three months. I 491 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 1: was always playing. And you know, the only bad thing 492 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:20,440 Speaker 1: was probably you know that take a lot of tool 493 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 1: on my body down down the stretch of my career. 494 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:25,600 Speaker 1: But it was fun. 495 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:28,600 Speaker 5: Man. So twenty seventeen that Luca had to be young. 496 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 1: He was seventeen, yeah, but that was his first year 497 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:35,480 Speaker 1: with the national team. So I took him under my wings. 498 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 1: He was he was in my room. I was his 499 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:43,400 Speaker 1: you know, his mentor and everything, yes, og like yeah, 500 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:48,439 Speaker 1: and because before this European Championship, I said that this 501 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:52,840 Speaker 1: is my last competition for my country, so and then 502 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:54,520 Speaker 1: we won't go medal. 503 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was crazy chance Atlanta's own playing. 504 00:25:57,200 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 1: But I do, I do believe, like in higher powers, 505 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:05,040 Speaker 1: if I can say that. Because my grand my grandpa 506 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:08,240 Speaker 1: passed away five days before Europeaying Championship, I already know 507 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 1: that he's gonna because he was in bad condition and 508 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 1: I remember I went to hospital to visit him and 509 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 1: he asked me what we have and I told him, yeah, 510 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:21,239 Speaker 1: I'm gonna play for national. He said, please win a 511 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 1: medal for for me. That's awesome. So I really believe, 512 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 1: like you know, when that happened, man, I I was 513 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 1: playing off my mind, you know, for him, and it 514 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:34,160 Speaker 1: was crazy. But yeah, so that was the only gold 515 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:37,560 Speaker 1: medal for our country in team sports. Gold medal. 516 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:39,399 Speaker 3: That's dope. Yeah, that's dope. 517 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:40,840 Speaker 5: Hard two million people. 518 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:44,639 Speaker 1: You ain't gonna imagine you play against Trees, against Spain, 519 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 1: against Germany, against Serbia, against friends. You know those are 520 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 1: all good teams favorites. No, that would be like, okay, 521 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:04,320 Speaker 1: let's say it's madness. I don't know the last team. 522 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:07,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, a small, small colleague. 523 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 3: Win tournament in Kentucky. 524 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:12,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, So. 525 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:15,639 Speaker 4: You talked about it a little bit about even Joker 526 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 4: like Nicole j can can form. 527 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:20,200 Speaker 5: Can a foreign player be the face of the NBA? 528 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:22,919 Speaker 5: Will it be? Will it be? Because it can be? 529 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:28,560 Speaker 1: Can't be? But yeah, I need to. I believe you 530 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:32,679 Speaker 1: need to have two things. You have to win. You 531 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:35,159 Speaker 1: have to be m v P. But then you have 532 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:39,159 Speaker 1: to be good for the marketing. And I don't know 533 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:40,199 Speaker 1: if your has that. 534 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:43,399 Speaker 5: Ye, like he's already got two of them. 535 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:49,119 Speaker 1: You don't know. Definitely, yeah, yeah, but now the face 536 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:51,159 Speaker 1: probably has to have everything. 537 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:52,879 Speaker 5: And and and and let's be honest, Joker, don't give 538 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:53,479 Speaker 5: a ship about that. 539 00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 1: You want that, you don't want. You don't want that, 540 00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:56,919 Speaker 1: you don't. 541 00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 5: Want that wing. 542 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 1: Right courses. 543 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:05,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm mad at him sometimes, this beauty and simplicity killer. Yeah, 544 00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:07,440 Speaker 2: just go ahead, come over here. This is a job 545 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:09,119 Speaker 2: for me. I break my ass to the United States. 546 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:11,439 Speaker 1: Do my job now. 547 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:15,480 Speaker 4: If Luca wins, If Luca wins, yeah, I mean weby 548 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 4: obviously Wemby's coming in. But if Luca wins, I mean, gosh, damn, 549 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:20,040 Speaker 4: he got all that. 550 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:21,200 Speaker 3: I'm gonna be honest with you. 551 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:23,800 Speaker 2: The way they're playing the game of basketball right now, 552 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:27,440 Speaker 2: I don't know if anybody's playing better and right now 553 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:30,120 Speaker 2: to finish out the season. Because you know, all we 554 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 2: all noticed about getting hot at the right time. You 555 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,040 Speaker 2: get hot at the right time. You can run this 556 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:37,160 Speaker 2: ship off. You can run the tape. They hot right now. 557 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:40,160 Speaker 1: You're always saying that if you want to championship, you 558 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:41,520 Speaker 1: need to have a defense too. 559 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:43,600 Speaker 3: This is true. I think they got better. 560 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:45,560 Speaker 5: Think that just does go away from him. 561 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:49,600 Speaker 2: I think they got better during the trade deadline when 562 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:51,720 Speaker 2: they got PJ. They got got for it because now 563 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 2: we also understand Jones. The Jones which is the NBA 564 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:59,160 Speaker 2: game is fucking eighty fucking pick and rolls, ninety pick 565 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 2: and rolls a night. Now you got some guys that 566 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 2: can be switching with matchups on picking rolls and take 567 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 2: you out a lot of triggers. You can switch PJ 568 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 2: on the perimeter guy, you can switch Gaffrod on the 569 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:08,080 Speaker 2: perimeter of the guy. 570 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 3: Those guys can switch. 571 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 2: So now you're taking away a lot of triggers defensively, 572 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 2: flattening out the defense, flattening out the offense, and then 573 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 2: just make guys take bullshit as shots, So I understand 574 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:19,920 Speaker 2: what they did. Does the defensive philosophy kick in mentally 575 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:21,560 Speaker 2: for those guys, I don't know. That's just something you 576 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:23,320 Speaker 2: gotta work on every day to work those habits. But 577 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:25,440 Speaker 2: I understand what they have with the five guys and 578 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:26,960 Speaker 2: the trays that they made, and what they can do 579 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:30,040 Speaker 2: to change their game defensively and wise. I do get that. 580 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:32,240 Speaker 2: Now they got to buy in. That's a whole another thing. 581 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 1: But what's his stuff? 582 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:35,640 Speaker 5: Man? Got who you got coming out of the West? 583 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:38,920 Speaker 1: I mean Denver? Definitely Danver. I mean he's gonna be 584 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 1: that in Minnesota. Looks good. But the only thing that 585 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:44,760 Speaker 1: they're young. You know, I don't know any playoffs, But 586 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:50,560 Speaker 1: you don't think play in the playoffs. She's not h. 587 00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 2: I mean, I ain't gonna say he's gonna be playing 588 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 2: the whole playoffs depending on what some series might you 589 00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:00,160 Speaker 2: just like how we have for the Miami, you got 590 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 2: to understand in the playoffs, this matchup might not. 591 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 5: Be for you killer, So you think you think they 592 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 5: switch it up. 593 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:07,120 Speaker 2: Depending on who they're playing. They also have a hell 594 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:08,560 Speaker 2: of them. They have nas reed. 595 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:09,920 Speaker 4: Because I don't know, I don't know, I don't know 596 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:11,880 Speaker 4: if we've ever seen that. Though I've never seen I 597 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:13,680 Speaker 4: don't think you've ever seen a guy who makes forty 598 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:16,040 Speaker 4: five million dollars a year not playing the playoffs because 599 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:16,440 Speaker 4: of matchup. 600 00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:18,800 Speaker 2: No, this won't be the first time. If I think, 601 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:20,360 Speaker 2: if we look back, and there's been times where I'm 602 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:21,960 Speaker 2: not saying you take him out of the lineup, but 603 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:23,560 Speaker 2: he's only going to play limited minutes. 604 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:25,760 Speaker 3: You gotta you gotta, you gotta monitor his minutes. 605 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:27,400 Speaker 5: It doesn't happen. That doesn't have very often. It happens 606 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:29,160 Speaker 5: with role players more than eh. 607 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:30,680 Speaker 3: I don't know. I feel like I watched. 608 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:32,120 Speaker 4: I mean, if he wins Defensive Player of the Year 609 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:34,640 Speaker 4: and doesn't play in the playoffs, that'll be fucking shocking. 610 00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 3: Listen, you want to win. 611 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:39,080 Speaker 5: No, No, I understand the glasses are coming off, and 612 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 5: I get all that. I get all that. 613 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,240 Speaker 4: Ship so, but I'm saying, if your defensive player of 614 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:45,400 Speaker 4: the year does not play in a series, that's that 615 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 4: means he's not Defensive. 616 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:46,680 Speaker 5: Player of the year. 617 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:52,000 Speaker 2: I'll set in locker rooms on the other side, and 618 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:55,160 Speaker 2: I understand, when you play against a guy who's as 619 00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 2: dominant in the paint and you know, rem protecting just 620 00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:03,320 Speaker 2: like he is. How that can be a liability in 621 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 2: certain situations in the playoffs. Right now, we're playing a 622 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 2: game where guys are shooting threes one through five. I 623 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:10,720 Speaker 2: don't don't we got a five man that really doesn't. 624 00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:13,200 Speaker 5: You have to understand that. I don't disagree with you. 625 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 4: What I'm saying is to me, it'll be interesting to 626 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:18,720 Speaker 4: see if Finch goes into a playoff series and sits 627 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:20,040 Speaker 4: a guy who's defensive. 628 00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:23,720 Speaker 3: I'm not saying it's not the right foot smart. 629 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:25,880 Speaker 5: I understand that, no reason playing. 630 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:27,080 Speaker 3: His rotation bag of chips Minnesota. 631 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:29,240 Speaker 4: But but if you watch, if you watch Minnesota this year, 632 00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:32,360 Speaker 4: which I know you do, they play seven eight dudes, 633 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:35,120 Speaker 4: and and and Rudy plays a ton of minutes. 634 00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:36,400 Speaker 3: For a big Okay, Cat's gonna be back. 635 00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:37,920 Speaker 5: No, no, I understand that. 636 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:41,800 Speaker 4: But what I'm saying though, is like, so you're gonna 637 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:43,600 Speaker 4: have to have some huge balls of your Finch now 638 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:45,800 Speaker 4: to go in that series and say, Okay, I'm not 639 00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:46,920 Speaker 4: playing this, dude. 640 00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:49,280 Speaker 3: I'm not playing. But you don't just take them and 641 00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:49,760 Speaker 3: just throw the well. 642 00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:52,240 Speaker 4: If you if you're playing twelve minutes, that's not playing 643 00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:53,840 Speaker 4: them that's that means you're basically get him six in 644 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 4: the first and six. 645 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:56,400 Speaker 1: Second he's gonna start complaining. 646 00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:00,800 Speaker 4: Here then yeah, I'm saying this. I'm not bro I'm 647 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:04,040 Speaker 4: with you. I'm not saying you're wrong. That's gonna take. 648 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:06,200 Speaker 4: It's gonna take. Like to me, that'd be a real 649 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:08,320 Speaker 4: established coach. That's a It has to be an established 650 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:10,360 Speaker 4: coach that believes in himself that can say I'm not 651 00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:13,480 Speaker 4: gonna play potentially a defensive Player of the Year in 652 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:17,480 Speaker 4: this series, because if you lose that series, what about 653 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:18,840 Speaker 4: the series? 654 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:20,440 Speaker 2: And trust me, I'm being honest, if they lose the series, 655 00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:22,800 Speaker 2: ain't nobody gonna be saying because Rudy ain't play. 656 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:23,160 Speaker 5: You don't think so? 657 00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:26,920 Speaker 1: Hell okay, see what about Okay? 658 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:28,360 Speaker 5: See I love, Okay, see I love. 659 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:32,040 Speaker 2: And once again, this is not saying that I don't 660 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:35,360 Speaker 2: like what Rudy Gerber does, what he is and what 661 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:37,840 Speaker 2: he does and what he is he is a yak at. 662 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:40,640 Speaker 4: It the reality to gain what what you're saying has 663 00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:42,920 Speaker 4: a lot of merit to it. It's true, like there's 664 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,840 Speaker 4: gonna be scenarios and matchups in this playoffs. That's why 665 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:47,560 Speaker 4: I think it's interest it's gonna be interesting. It's like, 666 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:50,000 Speaker 4: are you gonna change who you are? Like I used 667 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:51,760 Speaker 4: to say it all the time, even with those Phoenix teams, 668 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:54,120 Speaker 4: we used to change who we were. We played the 669 00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:56,680 Speaker 4: Phoenix Suns because they played Sean Mary and Marsalam at 670 00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:59,000 Speaker 4: the four and five, But that was it was crazy 671 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:00,800 Speaker 4: to me. I always said it, like, so, you mean 672 00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:03,400 Speaker 4: to tell me that we're gonna play forty seven straight 673 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:04,720 Speaker 4: games this way and then we go to play the 674 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:05,840 Speaker 4: Phoenix Suns and we're gonna change it. 675 00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:07,160 Speaker 5: They're gonna beat this that way anyways. 676 00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:09,120 Speaker 2: I mean, we was able to do it when we 677 00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:11,120 Speaker 2: got in and then we switched certain matchups. When it 678 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:13,000 Speaker 2: came to Indiana, it was like, okay, Shane, that's not 679 00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:15,920 Speaker 2: your matchup. This your d matchup series Before I didn't 680 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:16,600 Speaker 2: play much. 681 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:19,480 Speaker 5: That's not a to me. Those role situations a one 682 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:20,920 Speaker 5: hundred percent different. I'm with you on that. 683 00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:22,760 Speaker 4: But you're talking about like it this could be potentially 684 00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:24,480 Speaker 4: defensive players the year. I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm 685 00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:25,960 Speaker 4: just saying it's gonna be interesting to see if he 686 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:28,120 Speaker 4: shelves them. It would be very interesting to see. 687 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:29,120 Speaker 3: You want to win. 688 00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:30,720 Speaker 5: I agree, that's the goal. 689 00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:32,200 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna rude to go back, but I's thinking 690 00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:34,080 Speaker 2: everybody got to understand, like, this just might not. 691 00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:35,840 Speaker 5: Be a series, but you've had the number one defense series. 692 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:36,800 Speaker 5: You had the number one. 693 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:39,320 Speaker 4: Defensive in the in the league basically all year where 694 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:41,880 Speaker 4: we just talked about defense wins championship. Anthony Edwards is 695 00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:45,560 Speaker 4: an absolute motherfucker. Yes, all right, Kat obviously can shoot 696 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:46,960 Speaker 4: the cover off, the ball spreads the floor. 697 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,240 Speaker 5: It's gonna be interesting. I think it's gonna be a 698 00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:49,840 Speaker 5: good storyline. 699 00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:51,920 Speaker 2: But what you got to understand is they had He's 700 00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:53,640 Speaker 2: won Defensive Player the year before in the past, and 701 00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:55,520 Speaker 2: they haven't had the number one defense. So I think 702 00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:57,160 Speaker 2: that them having a number one defense doesn't have to 703 00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:58,520 Speaker 2: do it. Rud to Gobert, it has to do it. 704 00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:02,960 Speaker 2: And and I think is the the he's infused into 705 00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:05,000 Speaker 2: that locker room and to those guys because they've had 706 00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:07,080 Speaker 2: him at defensive player the year before and they wasn't 707 00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:09,759 Speaker 2: tops in the league. They were dogship in defense. So 708 00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:12,279 Speaker 2: now you're tops in the league in defense and you 709 00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:14,760 Speaker 2: still got your Defensive Player of the Year. What has changed, 710 00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:16,120 Speaker 2: I think is the leadership. 711 00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:18,960 Speaker 5: I don't discrewe you. I just think it's gonna be interesting. So, 712 00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:20,719 Speaker 5: so who you got coming out of the West, because me. 713 00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:25,840 Speaker 1: And him does Daver Denver? And uh? I like, okay, see, okay, 714 00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:31,640 Speaker 1: see's young long. I mean Alexander is playing, I think 715 00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:33,120 Speaker 1: so he can be repetness. Yeah. 716 00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:38,560 Speaker 2: So for instance, great point. If you're playing Denver, Rudy's 717 00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:40,719 Speaker 2: in the lineup, he's starting, he's going to get thirty 718 00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:43,439 Speaker 2: five to forty minutes. If you're playing okay, see and check, 719 00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:44,840 Speaker 2: he might not get as many minutes. 720 00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:47,160 Speaker 3: This might be a NOAs read matchup. So no, I 721 00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:47,960 Speaker 3: don't I don't discribe. 722 00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:50,960 Speaker 4: I know, I believe it. You guys we're talking the 723 00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:52,480 Speaker 4: same way. It's just gonna be interested to see if 724 00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:52,759 Speaker 4: he does it. 725 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:54,480 Speaker 3: So why you ask rhetorical questions? 726 00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:56,640 Speaker 4: I want to I want to hear. I want to 727 00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:58,279 Speaker 4: hear you take you know where he don't. I don't 728 00:34:58,280 --> 00:34:59,680 Speaker 4: know if Finch Bill, I don't think Finch will take 729 00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:00,480 Speaker 4: him out the lineup. 730 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:02,520 Speaker 3: I really don't you know. F it's like that, Yeah, 731 00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:03,320 Speaker 3: give me it's number I. 732 00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:06,799 Speaker 5: I'm just saying that you'll have a lot explained again. 733 00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:09,560 Speaker 3: I this is this is I'm just saying this is 734 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:10,400 Speaker 3: how this game goes. 735 00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:11,480 Speaker 5: Now, Coach, I get it. 736 00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:13,480 Speaker 4: But it's like, okay, cool, you guys do that, right, 737 00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:16,279 Speaker 4: you guys play Okay, see it's chat. You go on 738 00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:18,560 Speaker 4: that Chet matchup and you make it switch and Nasried 739 00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:21,279 Speaker 4: who I really really like, and Check goes and has 740 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,799 Speaker 4: unbelievable games. So you're now you just went and change 741 00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:27,080 Speaker 4: your defense for no reason. Then you change your whole 742 00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:28,120 Speaker 4: rotation for no reason. 743 00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:31,000 Speaker 2: Trust me, if you lose against Okay, see, it AIN'TNNA 744 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:31,560 Speaker 2: because of Chick. 745 00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:34,280 Speaker 5: It could be for talking about matchups. 746 00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:36,080 Speaker 2: At the end of the day, the stars are going 747 00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:38,799 Speaker 2: to do their jobs. You're just trying to do as 748 00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:41,160 Speaker 2: much damage control as possible about putting in a good system. 749 00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:44,760 Speaker 2: Like I say, don't fail the system. Let the system 750 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:45,239 Speaker 2: fail you. 751 00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:46,359 Speaker 5: That that that goes to show. 752 00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:48,479 Speaker 4: Then you're gonna you're you're basically changing your system because 753 00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:52,080 Speaker 4: you're taking Rudy out. Okay, what if you say this year, 754 00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:54,600 Speaker 4: but let me say this right, so you say that 755 00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:56,879 Speaker 4: it's not gonna be Check that wins the series for you? 756 00:35:57,520 --> 00:35:58,040 Speaker 5: Why not run? 757 00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:00,879 Speaker 4: Why not runch s g A to Rudy Gobert every 758 00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:04,399 Speaker 4: time you let chee then run s g a make 759 00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:05,959 Speaker 4: force everything, funnel everything. 760 00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:08,760 Speaker 5: SGA just fun to Rudy Gobert. 761 00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,120 Speaker 4: Rudy Like, I'll be honest, when I watched those two 762 00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:13,320 Speaker 4: guys play Rudy and and and call out the towns 763 00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:16,239 Speaker 4: and you add Jade McDaniels in there, their length is 764 00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:18,560 Speaker 4: a motherfucker. So if you think SGA is gonna win 765 00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:21,200 Speaker 4: your series, follow unto those length because once you take 766 00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:24,160 Speaker 4: that length out, I'm. 767 00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:26,000 Speaker 5: Just being Devil's Appa. I don't disagree with it. 768 00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:28,080 Speaker 3: You're saying every thirty plus you don't think people try 769 00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:31,240 Speaker 3: to funnel him. Yeah, but I like his spots. 770 00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:34,600 Speaker 4: He's a motherfucker down get He's unbelievable. What I'm saying, 771 00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:36,520 Speaker 4: there's a different when it's when it's Rudy down there. Now. 772 00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:41,960 Speaker 1: You know, if if like when I when I played 773 00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:46,000 Speaker 1: against you, Rudy was, oh my god, I was like, yeah, 774 00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:49,080 Speaker 1: picking roll because you know I love playing drop cover 775 00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:52,400 Speaker 1: and this you know was was a Florida? Was a 776 00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:55,839 Speaker 1: layup midre or was that up to Ben? Yeah? And 777 00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:59,640 Speaker 1: then in offense, he's not gonna give you lonely love yep. 778 00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:02,840 Speaker 1: But defense, yeah, defense only change. 779 00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:06,520 Speaker 2: I feel like in certain matchups you got to say, hey, 780 00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:08,200 Speaker 2: this might not be your series. 781 00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:09,759 Speaker 4: I don't disagree with you. I'm just like, I just 782 00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:11,560 Speaker 4: like to have the banterer with you. Like you find 783 00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:12,320 Speaker 4: out I get it. 784 00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:14,960 Speaker 1: Let's let's say, let's say put example, pulling me a 785 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:20,600 Speaker 1: walkie versus versus Minnesota. Yeah it was Brook Lopez. Yeah 786 00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:23,120 Speaker 1: he's always outside on the pairs. 787 00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:25,719 Speaker 3: It's actually the spread is the spread guy? Yeah he's not. 788 00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:28,560 Speaker 2: Even They used Brook low Prez for the for the spacing. 789 00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:31,560 Speaker 5: So now it makes a valid it makes valid points. 790 00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:32,480 Speaker 5: It's great, it's great to see. 791 00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:33,759 Speaker 4: It's just I'm telling you, it's gonna be interesting to 792 00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:35,120 Speaker 4: see if you have a number one defense all year 793 00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:35,759 Speaker 4: if you change it. 794 00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:37,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, number one defense in the season. 795 00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:38,080 Speaker 5: I don't. 796 00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:46,719 Speaker 3: It's two different things. You Okay, we gotta go, we 797 00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:50,160 Speaker 3: gotta It's been thirty years. It's the truth though. 798 00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:51,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, no, I get it. I get it. 799 00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:53,560 Speaker 2: I get and then and guess what, there's gonna be 800 00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:56,480 Speaker 2: some series where Rudy might win you that series. But 801 00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:58,160 Speaker 2: every series ain't gonna be a Rudy series. 802 00:37:58,200 --> 00:37:58,360 Speaker 6: You know. 803 00:37:58,800 --> 00:37:59,440 Speaker 1: I'm with you. 804 00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:01,360 Speaker 5: I just I just like to hear it. Uh, the 805 00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:03,000 Speaker 5: East you get out of the East. 806 00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:10,280 Speaker 1: East Boston looks good. Then, uh, I'm gonna taking Miami. Uh, Miami, 807 00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:17,160 Speaker 1: and uh, I don't know about Milwaukee's they two up 808 00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:21,400 Speaker 1: and down and changing of coach and Johnny's got hurt. Now. 809 00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:29,000 Speaker 1: I do like Dame that, yeah, Damis. What about New York. 810 00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:30,919 Speaker 3: Right now? 811 00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:33,920 Speaker 5: I think I think Orlando beats some first round? How 812 00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:34,160 Speaker 5: about that? 813 00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:36,879 Speaker 2: I think Bruston. I think Brunton's I think Brunton is 814 00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:37,759 Speaker 2: really really good. 815 00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:38,520 Speaker 5: He's unbelievable. 816 00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:40,000 Speaker 3: I think he's really fucking good. 817 00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:40,839 Speaker 5: It's really good. 818 00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:41,160 Speaker 1: They. 819 00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:42,560 Speaker 3: I think they need Randall back. 820 00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:44,200 Speaker 5: Yeah he's he's done. 821 00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:45,920 Speaker 2: Yeah he's not. He's out for the season with the surgery. 822 00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:50,239 Speaker 2: I think they would need Randall back, But I'm kind 823 00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:52,560 Speaker 2: of with Mike. I think you can take that one. 824 00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:55,000 Speaker 2: I like what they've done defensively. Once again, we talked 825 00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:57,360 Speaker 2: about the game being fucking eighty fucking pick and rolls. 826 00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:00,520 Speaker 2: You have length, you have athleticism, you don't want need 827 00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:01,799 Speaker 2: one of the match ups when you run to pick 828 00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:03,279 Speaker 2: a roll. You know what I'm saying, All those guys 829 00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:04,719 Speaker 2: are gonna switch on to you. They gonna go out 830 00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:07,000 Speaker 2: they yard. So I love what Mosley is doing over there. 831 00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:09,960 Speaker 2: For me, it was just understanding their spacing and what 832 00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:13,080 Speaker 2: everybody's role is offensively and being consistent with that. But 833 00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:16,200 Speaker 2: as far as getting into a playoff series, I do 834 00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:18,560 Speaker 2: think they could get the Knicks. 835 00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:20,799 Speaker 4: I'll be honest, you to come down to it's gonna 836 00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:23,000 Speaker 4: come because I watched every Orlando Magic game. It's gonna 837 00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:26,359 Speaker 4: come down to TIBs showing bodies and making shots for Orlando. 838 00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:27,520 Speaker 3: And if they can get o g back. 839 00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:30,040 Speaker 5: But but you know how this is gonna be. 840 00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:33,760 Speaker 4: Tim's gonna Tim is gonna cloud everything up. Orlando hasn't 841 00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:37,200 Speaker 4: shot a great all year. Make shots your young team 842 00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:38,840 Speaker 4: like that'd be. My biggest thing is they're gonna have 843 00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:41,440 Speaker 4: to find ways of the easy stuff for p for Polo, like, 844 00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:42,759 Speaker 4: you're gonna have to find ways to open it up 845 00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:44,400 Speaker 4: because he's gonna pass the shout of it. But if 846 00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:46,520 Speaker 4: it's always passing, we're not making threes, it's gonna be tough. 847 00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:47,200 Speaker 4: We got to make shots. 848 00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:52,920 Speaker 3: That Mac truck laying run wid Man Mack truck that 849 00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:55,560 Speaker 3: mat til and gets faced. That's how that works. 850 00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:01,240 Speaker 4: Least let me ask let's go to some fan questions 851 00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:03,480 Speaker 4: real quick, because everybody. 852 00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:04,240 Speaker 3: Was been asking questions. 853 00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:06,960 Speaker 2: I got one thing you said, you like, dang, you 854 00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:08,440 Speaker 2: remember that time we went out of Portland. 855 00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:12,880 Speaker 1: Don't bring that out. 856 00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:15,560 Speaker 3: I gotta bring it up. 857 00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:17,200 Speaker 1: What happened? 858 00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:24,600 Speaker 2: We got a day off. It's my it's my bright idea. Hey, 859 00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:26,440 Speaker 2: let's find us a strip club of Portland. Go have 860 00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:27,080 Speaker 2: some drinks. 861 00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:28,800 Speaker 5: Of course you're. 862 00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:32,960 Speaker 1: Strip club and let's go gee. 863 00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:35,040 Speaker 2: I said, okay, yeah, gee, let's go. Man, let's go 864 00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:39,760 Speaker 2: find a strip club and sit down and have some drinks, 865 00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:41,919 Speaker 2: chill out, relaxed. I think we had maybe lost maybe 866 00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:44,239 Speaker 2: a couple of games. It was we just yeah, we're 867 00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:45,600 Speaker 2: just trying to boost them around up. 868 00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:48,759 Speaker 1: What happened on you? 869 00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:54,600 Speaker 2: We got in poorly, y'all gotta do better. 870 00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:59,680 Speaker 1: Everybody's on cracking. 871 00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:00,520 Speaker 3: About looked like they do methodis motherfucker? 872 00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:01,239 Speaker 1: What we like? 873 00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:01,560 Speaker 6: No? 874 00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:03,279 Speaker 3: What are we looking at here? 875 00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:03,400 Speaker 5: Like? 876 00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:03,839 Speaker 1: This is? 877 00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:04,960 Speaker 3: This is insane? 878 00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:07,480 Speaker 2: That she was like a mother episode at night of 879 00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:10,400 Speaker 2: the Walking Daddy. I was like, hey, man, listen, you 880 00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:14,360 Speaker 2: know what, let's just find a bus and you know 881 00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:16,160 Speaker 2: we ain't even looking for that no more. Let's just 882 00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:16,680 Speaker 2: find somewhere. 883 00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:20,000 Speaker 1: That happened. We were there like two minutes. Man, that 884 00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:20,680 Speaker 1: she was bad. 885 00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:22,920 Speaker 2: We walked to that motherfucking I don't be into the slums. 886 00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:24,319 Speaker 2: But even I was like, oh, I'm too good for 887 00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:31,640 Speaker 2: this place. Even I was like, y'all gotta do better. 888 00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:34,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, damn boy, y'all fucked up. 889 00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:36,240 Speaker 2: Me and Gogi first time going out to get dress 890 00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:37,000 Speaker 2: at the strip club. 891 00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:40,480 Speaker 1: Man, I remember we went in Cleveland. Remember we went 892 00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:43,680 Speaker 1: to Cause? You know, so you know I don't gamble. 893 00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:46,920 Speaker 1: Even on the plane. Og is always playing cards. I'm 894 00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:48,840 Speaker 1: I'm like watching a movie. 895 00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:52,800 Speaker 3: I watch how they Cleveland. 896 00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:55,640 Speaker 1: Old me some mo o G and uh d H 897 00:41:55,840 --> 00:42:00,520 Speaker 1: was D was with us? Let's go to the Cause. 898 00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:03,560 Speaker 1: Then I said, okay, right out, let's go. And this 899 00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:09,239 Speaker 1: guy plays it black jack, yes quick like seven k 900 00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:10,759 Speaker 1: or is like fifteen k. 901 00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:15,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, like we oh, he can't help, he can't help, 902 00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:16,239 Speaker 5: but make money? 903 00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:16,719 Speaker 3: Did I win? 904 00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:18,040 Speaker 1: No? You win? 905 00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:20,960 Speaker 2: Okay, I can't remember. You can't listen whole life. You 906 00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:23,239 Speaker 2: say something, you know how I learned. And it's not 907 00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:27,400 Speaker 2: racist Asian people. If you fucking walk in the casino 908 00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:30,200 Speaker 2: and see an Asian person sitting next to that motherfucker, 909 00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:32,319 Speaker 2: he knows how to play, she knows how to play, 910 00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:35,480 Speaker 2: and they gonna damn your ass if you're wrong they 911 00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:37,440 Speaker 2: will consit you in their language and let you know 912 00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:38,560 Speaker 2: you fucked up the table. 913 00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:42,759 Speaker 3: That ship. I don't know what they be saying, but 914 00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:44,120 Speaker 3: they gonna let you know you fucked up. 915 00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:47,360 Speaker 2: So literally, when I first started playing black jack or 916 00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:49,560 Speaker 2: dice on any game, when I first walked Sino, you 917 00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:51,480 Speaker 2: sit next to the Asian person. They gonna have all 918 00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:57,719 Speaker 2: the design on Sachi, Findy, Gucci, all that shit, just 919 00:42:57,800 --> 00:42:59,960 Speaker 2: to the nine. They know how to fucking gamble. So 920 00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:01,759 Speaker 2: I learned how to game. Sit next to age of people, bro, 921 00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:03,279 Speaker 2: and I got good at that ship. 922 00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:04,520 Speaker 3: I'm pretty good at black jack. 923 00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:05,759 Speaker 2: It got to the point where I had to step 924 00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:07,600 Speaker 2: away from that ship because that should have been another job. 925 00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:10,960 Speaker 3: I was thinking, it definitely been another job, Bro. I 926 00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:12,280 Speaker 3: get it there with that black jack. 927 00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:15,320 Speaker 1: Killer, I remember was up he wants some money. 928 00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:22,000 Speaker 2: D H yeah bad, look, Jackie asked, h. Everything's just mush. 929 00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:24,120 Speaker 2: He's just mush at the table. We ain't never won 930 00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:26,080 Speaker 2: at the same time either I'm winning, he wining. We 931 00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:27,000 Speaker 2: can't never win together. 932 00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:30,360 Speaker 1: You remembering the bubble we were seeing when he warmed. 933 00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:35,600 Speaker 2: Up jogging This motherfucker out here jogging around the goddamn bubble. 934 00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:37,840 Speaker 2: He our team security. I'm like, motherfucker, ain't nobody to 935 00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:41,480 Speaker 2: fight here, ain't worry about nothing. I think we're all safe. 936 00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:45,600 Speaker 2: It's only us. Ain't nothing going on out here. 937 00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:49,880 Speaker 4: Ship, well Dragon here at the Ogs were the man 938 00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:52,279 Speaker 4: of the people. So we're gonna ask these questions from 939 00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:58,040 Speaker 4: from the people. Okay, first one, best Dwayne memory from. 940 00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:02,440 Speaker 5: Being his teammate. I would say, you got right now. 941 00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:07,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I would say the playoffs. I remember which year, 942 00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:12,239 Speaker 1: But in Charlotte, when the guy was on the sideline 943 00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:14,680 Speaker 1: in the pink shirt, he was like yapping and the 944 00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:21,920 Speaker 1: Way like and bananas like he scored, like what. 945 00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:25,239 Speaker 3: I don't know, Friday Mon, We're talking ship to him 946 00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:25,840 Speaker 3: the whole time. 947 00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:28,560 Speaker 1: The whole every time he score, he would go back 948 00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:31,280 Speaker 1: to him and like you. 949 00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:34,680 Speaker 2: You and the Way have a similarity. It's a similar, 950 00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:37,000 Speaker 2: similar character trait that I don't possess. 951 00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:38,520 Speaker 1: When they get mad. 952 00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:41,160 Speaker 3: They played better, I curse in my language, Yeah, but 953 00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:43,239 Speaker 3: you play better. It's my fuck got his tooth knock? 954 00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:43,600 Speaker 2: That was it? 955 00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:47,080 Speaker 1: Atlanta, Atlanta and the Detroit Detroit. When I got it, 956 00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:52,399 Speaker 1: I throw the reft. You remember, That's when. 957 00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:54,719 Speaker 3: I said, I like this motherfucker. I was like this. 958 00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:58,799 Speaker 1: I was dribbling. I was dribbling and the guy hit 959 00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:01,319 Speaker 1: me with his elbow. I'm like, oh god, damn it. 960 00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:04,720 Speaker 1: So I speed the two in my in my hand 961 00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:08,080 Speaker 1: and I showed her that motherfucker collar, fill and throw. 962 00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:10,719 Speaker 2: It was like a too fat around. That's what I 963 00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:12,360 Speaker 2: was like. I was like seven days a week and 964 00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:15,160 Speaker 2: twice on Sunday. I'm fucking with this. Mother fucking I'm 965 00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:18,919 Speaker 2: fucking with this motherfucking kept playing. Nowadays, you lose a tooth, 966 00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:22,279 Speaker 2: you out seventeen months, you can cuss seventeen You. 967 00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:24,680 Speaker 1: Know what's a crazy thing. When I was playing with 968 00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:27,480 Speaker 1: the Sons, Steve Nash was a playoff and he got 969 00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:32,080 Speaker 1: hitting against San Antonio. He got hitting the nose and 970 00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:35,799 Speaker 1: the nose was like crooked, bro. He just did this 971 00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:40,600 Speaker 1: middle of the game. Is they didn't didn't even go 972 00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:44,440 Speaker 1: out or he just readjusted his nose by himself and 973 00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:45,080 Speaker 1: keep playing. 974 00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:46,880 Speaker 3: Nowadays, you got a mask. 975 00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:48,960 Speaker 4: That's perfect because the next question is what was it 976 00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:50,480 Speaker 4: like being mentioned by Steve Nash? 977 00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:51,600 Speaker 3: That was a great question. 978 00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:55,239 Speaker 5: Yeah see he said, but it's just. 979 00:45:57,440 --> 00:46:00,480 Speaker 1: It was great Steve. You know, he was all ish. 980 00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:04,880 Speaker 1: First the practice, I would sit next to him on 981 00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:07,160 Speaker 1: the plane, next to him in the locker room, and 982 00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:09,680 Speaker 1: he would just give me a great point, especially the 983 00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:13,839 Speaker 1: pick and roll. You know that Steve Nash picking roll 984 00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:16,440 Speaker 1: and you look around the paint, keep the dribble. That 985 00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:19,200 Speaker 1: was one of the that kind of opened everything for 986 00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:23,080 Speaker 1: me when I was playing picking roll because I have 987 00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:25,240 Speaker 1: one problem. When I came to the NBA, I played 988 00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:28,480 Speaker 1: picking roll and then I always killed the dribble and 989 00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:31,120 Speaker 1: then he was like, he would give me this like, no, 990 00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:35,439 Speaker 1: just keep the dribble alive, go through the paint. And yeah, 991 00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:37,520 Speaker 1: that was that was huge and just you know, to 992 00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:40,880 Speaker 1: have them around is such a good guy who helped 993 00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:44,840 Speaker 1: me a lot. And you know twenty ten when we 994 00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:49,120 Speaker 1: play conference finals versus Lakers, that was I really thought 995 00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:51,400 Speaker 1: we were going to make the finals. But you know 996 00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:54,919 Speaker 1: on the other side was Kobe Yeah, oh my god. 997 00:46:55,760 --> 00:47:00,800 Speaker 6: Else we would put literally four guys eyes on him 998 00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:04,080 Speaker 6: and he would he would not even pass the ball 999 00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:06,480 Speaker 6: because he know that the other team, you know, they 1000 00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:08,120 Speaker 6: would not make the shot. 1001 00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:11,040 Speaker 1: He would just shoot over the guys that make everything. 1002 00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:12,399 Speaker 1: Was unbelievadble. 1003 00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:17,120 Speaker 5: Next question, what was your welcome to the heat culture moment? 1004 00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:23,280 Speaker 1: You know, I got traded during the middle of the season, 1005 00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:27,440 Speaker 1: and I don't remember really well that. You know. I 1006 00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:30,480 Speaker 1: didn't play well at the beginning. I was struggling, new system, 1007 00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:36,560 Speaker 1: new teammates. And I remember off season Pat, I mean 1008 00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:40,680 Speaker 1: after the season, Pat called me his office and I 1009 00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:44,040 Speaker 1: sit down and he looked dead into my eyes and 1010 00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:47,440 Speaker 1: he's like, son, you need to be better. We didn't 1011 00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:52,920 Speaker 1: pay you for this ship. I was like, yeah, bro, 1012 00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:58,440 Speaker 1: I'm serious. So I was like, goddamn, I just got it. 1013 00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:00,399 Speaker 1: She was like, no, no, I want you to think 1014 00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:04,240 Speaker 1: about this the whole summer, you know. And I literally 1015 00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:08,920 Speaker 1: had this in my in my mind every practice. So 1016 00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:12,759 Speaker 1: next year I came back. I was hoping, but and 1017 00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:16,840 Speaker 1: then what else the oh my god, I remember training 1018 00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:17,840 Speaker 1: can book a raton. 1019 00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:19,359 Speaker 3: That's what I thought. She was going to make. 1020 00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:23,840 Speaker 1: One mistake. You know what was my mistake? I didn't 1021 00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:28,680 Speaker 1: have my car and uh Birdman like, oh you want 1022 00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:34,319 Speaker 1: to you want to ride to uh to training? I 1023 00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:40,360 Speaker 1: almost died. He he ran through five red lights on purpose. 1024 00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:44,400 Speaker 1: I was like, god, damn. I was already sending a 1025 00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:48,440 Speaker 1: text message to my ex wife and the kids, like you. 1026 00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:52,200 Speaker 5: Had that big. 1027 00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:59,040 Speaker 1: Yes. Yeah, he was past and you know, what he 1028 00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:01,520 Speaker 1: would do. He would he would step on it and 1029 00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:05,759 Speaker 1: go through direct light. He would start yelling. So I'm 1030 00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:08,960 Speaker 1: like sitting in the coup. What the love man? 1031 00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:16,319 Speaker 2: Hold on, man and listen. WrestleMania called us, Travis kel 1032 00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:18,480 Speaker 2: y'all called me. You already got our name in all 1033 00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:23,000 Speaker 2: the bast brothers. We ready hold on a second? What what? 1034 00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:24,800 Speaker 2: What did coach Rally say to you in the office. 1035 00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:27,960 Speaker 1: You gotta be better, she said, we didn't pay for 1036 00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:28,440 Speaker 1: that ship. 1037 00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:31,560 Speaker 3: God damn PA, that's crazy. 1038 00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:36,720 Speaker 1: But look for me. For me, it worked like because 1039 00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:38,000 Speaker 1: you know. 1040 00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:41,040 Speaker 2: Listen, let me tell you something that's got one Pat story. 1041 00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:43,480 Speaker 2: If I told this story before, Pat lined us up 1042 00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:46,960 Speaker 2: on the wall and we wasn't winning, and he gave 1043 00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:48,719 Speaker 2: a speech, and he said, if anybody got this is 1044 00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:50,520 Speaker 2: a long time ago. This is before you got here. 1045 00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:52,680 Speaker 2: He said, if anybody got a problem, you cut to 1046 00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:55,440 Speaker 2: my office. Soon as I finished. As soon as fast 1047 00:49:55,520 --> 00:50:00,239 Speaker 2: Pat finished talking, Doliac Michael Doliac love Doliac, shout outli dot. 1048 00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:02,160 Speaker 2: He walked, got up and walked straight to the office. 1049 00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:05,960 Speaker 2: The holler that Pat, don't he get downstairs. Five minutes later, 1050 00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:07,279 Speaker 2: I said, what do you tell you don't he say 1051 00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:13,759 Speaker 2: you tell me get the that sounded about. 1052 00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:16,040 Speaker 3: What did he say to you? 1053 00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:19,919 Speaker 2: You would tell me get the fun out of his office? 1054 00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:24,399 Speaker 1: Next next question, one more thing ahead. 1055 00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:24,680 Speaker 5: Yes. 1056 00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:30,239 Speaker 1: The other thing was, uh, we had those tests, you know, 1057 00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:36,560 Speaker 1: technician audition. So I remember c B. D Way du 1058 00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:39,440 Speaker 1: old dang o G. I don't know who. 1059 00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:43,120 Speaker 3: Brought those way brought those steak ass masks. Those ass masks. 1060 00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:43,239 Speaker 1: Man. 1061 00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:44,719 Speaker 3: You remember the mask that you put on. They cut 1062 00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:45,360 Speaker 3: down the oxygen. 1063 00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:49,720 Speaker 2: Oxygen so you wear intensifies your workout. 1064 00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:53,440 Speaker 1: But you know what, you know what happened and the 1065 00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:56,839 Speaker 1: end that's no. No, c B took the mask off. 1066 00:50:56,880 --> 00:51:00,400 Speaker 1: He didn't have those filters in cheated. He was ship man. 1067 00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:03,319 Speaker 2: I had lost alone. I was like, no, I ain't 1068 00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:07,400 Speaker 2: doing this ever, Hey, I don't need that much. This 1069 00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:12,680 Speaker 2: ain't my Navy seals. Navy seals. It was there to die. 1070 00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:15,040 Speaker 2: That was handed and ship. 1071 00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:18,960 Speaker 5: Last question, let's see what you one. I want to 1072 00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:19,399 Speaker 5: pull here. 1073 00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:22,840 Speaker 4: What what's your thoughts on Duncan Robinson's development? 1074 00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:24,240 Speaker 5: What was it like being his mentor? 1075 00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:28,839 Speaker 1: Oh? That was he was he was good, great man. 1076 00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:33,839 Speaker 1: He'll like work out every practice after practice. We would 1077 00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:37,120 Speaker 1: have those pre uh how do you call it? Uh, 1078 00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:41,440 Speaker 1: pre practices, pre practices, he would be there, but you know, 1079 00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:44,000 Speaker 1: duncan duncan, Oh my god, he always can. Showed the ball. 1080 00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:46,440 Speaker 1: The only problem that he has was his confidence. 1081 00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:47,880 Speaker 3: Yes, confidence. 1082 00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:51,040 Speaker 1: As soon as he got his confidence, oh my god. 1083 00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:54,800 Speaker 1: Like it was so easy to play with him, especially 1084 00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:58,520 Speaker 1: him and Bam. They really connected Bam handoff. He opened 1085 00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:01,319 Speaker 1: up everything for us space sing Like. For me, it 1086 00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:04,480 Speaker 1: was easy because I had the whole lane open. I 1087 00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:08,720 Speaker 1: can operate and everything. And uh, he was just shy, shy, 1088 00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:10,759 Speaker 1: quiet like me. I mean, I was the same thing. 1089 00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:14,680 Speaker 1: You know. For me. The toughest thing was my accent. 1090 00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:17,279 Speaker 1: Oh g was always make fun of my accent. So 1091 00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:18,800 Speaker 1: I was like that I'm not talking. 1092 00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:24,239 Speaker 3: Hey, watch you tell her? What's your favorite show? Is 1093 00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:25,600 Speaker 3: what she's like? Watch Cookie? 1094 00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:26,919 Speaker 5: Oh? 1095 00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:31,479 Speaker 1: What was the name with cookie? Was? Oh my god, 1096 00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:37,240 Speaker 1: the singing, Uh the show, the show with the cookie. 1097 00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:41,600 Speaker 1: You know, God damn Empire, Empire. 1098 00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:48,319 Speaker 3: And fire love Empire, love Empire, bro, he love I 1099 00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:59,520 Speaker 3: love Cookie, Cookie, Cookie Cookie, She's amazing Empire. I was like, oh, yeah, 1100 00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:00,719 Speaker 3: that was my show man. 1101 00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:05,040 Speaker 2: You fucking loves some fucking Empire map cookie. 1102 00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:08,759 Speaker 4: Yeah, and we got the prize pick segment coming up. 1103 00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:12,120 Speaker 4: We got every time we do prize picks, free money, 1104 00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:12,719 Speaker 4: prize picks. 1105 00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:15,879 Speaker 5: Ud wins free money everywhere he goes, especially given out 1106 00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:18,480 Speaker 5: money they just they handed out. 1107 00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:19,760 Speaker 1: It's that money. 1108 00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:24,160 Speaker 2: Top five, but today's go ahead. Top five international players 1109 00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:26,279 Speaker 2: of all time. It'd be easy to say all the time. 1110 00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:29,160 Speaker 2: It's easy to say right now. We understand Joker is him, 1111 00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:31,000 Speaker 2: Lucas him, top. 1112 00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:35,600 Speaker 1: Five all all good luck with this one though, So 1113 00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:37,560 Speaker 1: I can put the I can put those guys in 1114 00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:40,200 Speaker 1: or you know, they have to put the corona. 1115 00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:40,080 Speaker 5: On that. 1116 00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:44,520 Speaker 2: Something they are ship. I don't I mean, I don't 1117 00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:47,160 Speaker 2: know the history of all international players, but you don't get. 1118 00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:51,360 Speaker 1: Look up there because those numbers that they are producing 1119 00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:53,800 Speaker 1: him out of this two numbers. So then I'm gonna 1120 00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:59,520 Speaker 1: put one one. One guy in Petrovitch, motherfucker man. He 1121 00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:05,879 Speaker 1: was amazing. Then Dirk is a four, and then oh 1122 00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:08,440 Speaker 1: my god, then you got okay, I got five. I 1123 00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:13,080 Speaker 1: have to go with song, I mean, and then you 1124 00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:18,080 Speaker 1: know you have pages Yakovich was my favorite. Then you 1125 00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:23,879 Speaker 1: got shremp shrimp. Yeah, here is Tony Parker. You know. 1126 00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:25,880 Speaker 3: Tony. 1127 00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:28,800 Speaker 1: It's it's a lot of a lot. 1128 00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:29,960 Speaker 5: Of let's go back to it. 1129 00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:33,440 Speaker 1: So let's start with the point guard. Okay, let's do 1130 00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:34,200 Speaker 1: a point guard. 1131 00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:37,680 Speaker 3: Do a start in five start Yeah, yeah. 1132 00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:42,680 Speaker 1: Let's do Okay, let's do let's do a Tony Parker. 1133 00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:49,440 Speaker 4: Overlooka no, I put Lucas as to. 1134 00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:51,439 Speaker 2: Tony pok Remember the Tony League and point point point 1135 00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:53,040 Speaker 2: paint point paint as. 1136 00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:54,400 Speaker 3: A point guard, which is unheard of. 1137 00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:56,840 Speaker 2: He was still had centers in the league, Shock and 1138 00:54:56,920 --> 00:54:59,239 Speaker 2: these guys, and we had a point guard led the 1139 00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:00,160 Speaker 2: league in paint. 1140 00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:02,960 Speaker 1: You can keep yeah, yeah, and you know what he had. 1141 00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:05,440 Speaker 1: He didn't have like a two steps. He had like 1142 00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:11,839 Speaker 1: a quick It's crazy. So Tony, let's put let's put 1143 00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:20,960 Speaker 1: Luca three two ship three, uh, Tony Cook co four 1144 00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:22,520 Speaker 1: Dirk and five. 1145 00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:30,200 Speaker 5: Over I play. I played with Mark. 1146 00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:32,280 Speaker 1: That stuff. 1147 00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:35,640 Speaker 3: That's that's that's stuff man, that guy damn joking. 1148 00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:40,040 Speaker 1: If I put Joker, if I okay, I put Jokers 1149 00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:43,200 Speaker 1: a five and then there's a four. It's between Power 1150 00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:44,319 Speaker 1: and Dirk. That's what I'm saying. 1151 00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:45,399 Speaker 3: You can't take. 1152 00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:48,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, Dirk has to be then in front of Power 1153 00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:51,440 Speaker 1: and then three. Let's say, Tony, that's gonna be a 1154 00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:54,799 Speaker 1: lot of length that's the Luca two and then Tony one. Yeah, 1155 00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:55,520 Speaker 1: let's do it. 1156 00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:58,640 Speaker 5: That's finally answer Squall. 1157 00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:00,879 Speaker 1: Show for the show. 1158 00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:03,160 Speaker 5: It's hard because Power was a motherfucker too. 1159 00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:04,000 Speaker 1: Man. 1160 00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:06,839 Speaker 4: I called him the meal ticket the Yeah, I called 1161 00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:08,520 Speaker 4: him the mil tickets whenever he ate the rest of 1162 00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:10,640 Speaker 4: us ate for free, whenever he came to. 1163 00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:14,560 Speaker 1: Hoot man when when he was a rookie Memphis, I 1164 00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:15,279 Speaker 1: mean he was. 1165 00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:17,960 Speaker 4: I had no idea when I got traded there how 1166 00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:20,280 Speaker 4: good he was because he's still young and I got there. 1167 00:56:20,239 --> 00:56:21,080 Speaker 5: Like holy ship. 1168 00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:21,880 Speaker 3: You know. 1169 00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:26,719 Speaker 1: We we always every big tournament, the national team, we 1170 00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:30,760 Speaker 1: would always have a Spain in our group and nobody 1171 00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:33,239 Speaker 1: could go Power because we didn't have big guys. And 1172 00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:36,799 Speaker 1: you know, he was just so so dominant and so 1173 00:56:36,920 --> 00:56:38,320 Speaker 1: crafty and skilled. 1174 00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:40,760 Speaker 3: He was so skilled, definitely skilled. It's crazy. 1175 00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:45,920 Speaker 1: And that was But you know, I do believe the 1176 00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:50,640 Speaker 1: game changed a lot, especially you know those early guys 1177 00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:58,720 Speaker 1: like Vladiva Paggle Ch Saboni's Yes, Tony cool because Dina Roger. 1178 00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:01,440 Speaker 1: You know, those guys just played the way for us now, 1179 00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:04,799 Speaker 1: because that was the hardest part for European or all 1180 00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:08,879 Speaker 1: for international players to break in the NBA because if 1181 00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:13,759 Speaker 1: you're honest, you know, everybody thought Europeans are soft and 1182 00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:18,000 Speaker 1: then you at all no, but you know it's. 1183 00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:20,640 Speaker 3: They don't know better. 1184 00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:23,080 Speaker 1: Because you know, they were never physical, they were always killed. 1185 00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:26,560 Speaker 1: They all shoot, shoot or you know, and that thing 1186 00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:29,400 Speaker 1: changed and then you know, the next generation when I 1187 00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:32,840 Speaker 1: came Tony, I mean Tony older than me, but then 1188 00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:35,320 Speaker 1: was more and more Europeans. And now right now it's 1189 00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:38,720 Speaker 1: just crazy to see how how they're dominating the NBA. 1190 00:57:38,840 --> 00:57:41,480 Speaker 1: It's you know now that this young kids one when 1191 00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:43,720 Speaker 1: they when he's oh. 1192 00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:47,040 Speaker 3: My god, that motherfucker is going to be listen, hold. 1193 00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:48,640 Speaker 4: On before we get offered then because you brought them 1194 00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:51,080 Speaker 4: up Defensive player of the Year this year. Is it 1195 00:57:51,120 --> 00:57:52,160 Speaker 4: Wenby or is it Rudy? 1196 00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:55,919 Speaker 1: I mean it depends what you look, how you look 1197 00:57:56,040 --> 00:58:00,320 Speaker 1: you look to team me up right now trying to 1198 00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:05,080 Speaker 1: you know, do you do you do you put the 1199 00:58:05,160 --> 00:58:06,320 Speaker 1: record team record in it? 1200 00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:08,760 Speaker 5: I mean it's your call, your you're the one doing it. 1201 00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:10,080 Speaker 5: What do you value? 1202 00:58:11,040 --> 00:58:13,280 Speaker 1: You know? It was crazy because last night I just 1203 00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:16,520 Speaker 1: saw the just saw the video. It was like they 1204 00:58:16,600 --> 00:58:19,000 Speaker 1: stole the ball and was three on one against MB 1205 00:58:19,640 --> 00:58:22,840 Speaker 1: and nobody, nobody want to shoot to stop playing. Yeah, 1206 00:58:22,880 --> 00:58:23,480 Speaker 1: stop playing. 1207 00:58:23,560 --> 00:58:28,640 Speaker 2: So I was like, so, I listen, let me tell 1208 00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:31,680 Speaker 2: you something. When it's all said and done, I ain't 1209 00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:33,560 Speaker 2: even say it's all set and done in the next 1210 00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:39,360 Speaker 2: couple of years. I'm expecting that average triple double with blocks. Wait, wait, 1211 00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:41,600 Speaker 2: that's this I'm not I'm not. 1212 00:58:41,840 --> 00:58:43,200 Speaker 5: Well, he's got a double double, for sure. 1213 00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:44,680 Speaker 2: So that's what I'm saying. He's going to get a 1214 00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:46,920 Speaker 2: double double for sure. But they're gonna play through him 1215 00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:49,400 Speaker 2: so much. He has a great he has a good 1216 00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:50,120 Speaker 2: basketball IQ. 1217 00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:54,920 Speaker 4: It's going to be interesting how they continue to develop 1218 00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:57,439 Speaker 4: him as far as minutes and stuff, though, I think 1219 00:58:58,480 --> 00:59:00,120 Speaker 4: because for him to triple double, you have to a 1220 00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:00,720 Speaker 4: lot of minutes. 1221 00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:02,520 Speaker 5: Well, they don't shoot very well over there. 1222 00:59:02,600 --> 00:59:03,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, but you run your offense through him, and you 1223 00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:05,360 Speaker 2: put him at the top of the key. You can run, 1224 00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:08,000 Speaker 2: he can pass. You pull a bigger way from you, 1225 00:59:08,040 --> 00:59:09,920 Speaker 2: pull a big away from the basket, You work your 1226 00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:10,680 Speaker 2: back door cuts. 1227 00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:11,880 Speaker 3: They work all that reason. 1228 00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:13,080 Speaker 5: Logo is an alien. 1229 00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:14,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, and if you. 1230 00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:16,360 Speaker 2: Don't come out there, the motherfucker can shoot it. So 1231 00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:18,200 Speaker 2: now you pull a big away from the basket. I'm 1232 00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:20,960 Speaker 2: looking for him to be ship. I mean Rust did 1233 00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:23,640 Speaker 2: it with with with with with assists. I'm looking for 1234 00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:26,760 Speaker 2: him to be a triple double guy at some point. Yes, 1235 00:59:26,800 --> 00:59:28,360 Speaker 2: he can do it with blocks, but I think. 1236 00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:32,080 Speaker 3: He also do it with no A triple double ain't no. 1237 00:59:33,640 --> 00:59:34,000 Speaker 1: Blocks. 1238 00:59:35,720 --> 00:59:37,760 Speaker 2: I don't know if he's gonna do all four, but 1239 00:59:37,840 --> 00:59:39,240 Speaker 2: I know he can do three out of the four. 1240 00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:40,920 Speaker 2: I don't know if it's gonna be blocks or assists. 1241 00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:43,240 Speaker 2: I look forward to be with assists because once again, 1242 00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:44,960 Speaker 2: with it blocks, motherfucker's gonna get in the paint and 1243 00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:46,720 Speaker 2: let that motherfuck They're not gonna shoot over him. They're 1244 00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:49,200 Speaker 2: gonna get the paint and spread. But with offense, the 1245 00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:51,200 Speaker 2: offense is gonna be ran through him. The ball is 1246 00:59:51,240 --> 00:59:53,000 Speaker 2: gonna be in his handle lot, bringing him at the 1247 00:59:53,040 --> 00:59:54,920 Speaker 2: top of the key, running any elbow action, running in 1248 00:59:54,960 --> 00:59:56,280 Speaker 2: the action from the top of the key. That's gonna 1249 00:59:56,280 --> 00:59:58,440 Speaker 2: pull the big away from the basket, working those back 1250 00:59:58,480 --> 01:00:00,280 Speaker 2: door cuts, all that ship ball. 1251 01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:01,360 Speaker 3: The ball finds energy. 1252 01:00:01,400 --> 01:00:03,680 Speaker 2: Bro I'm thinking, if the game is played the right 1253 01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:05,400 Speaker 2: way and it's played through him, and if he really 1254 01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:07,360 Speaker 2: wants to focus on it, because the motherfucker donna sleep 1255 01:00:07,400 --> 01:00:09,680 Speaker 2: walking to a double, you can book the twenty eight teens. 1256 01:00:10,280 --> 01:00:12,120 Speaker 2: So now he starts to understand the game and starts 1257 01:00:12,120 --> 01:00:13,400 Speaker 2: to watch faim and starts to see how he can 1258 01:00:13,440 --> 01:00:14,040 Speaker 2: make people better. 1259 01:00:14,320 --> 01:00:15,520 Speaker 3: Why can't he be a triple double? 1260 01:00:15,640 --> 01:00:17,400 Speaker 5: I don't disagree. I think he can, whether he does 1261 01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:19,160 Speaker 5: it or the walk. 1262 01:00:19,240 --> 01:00:21,880 Speaker 1: You know what's a huge factor to that. Pop just 1263 01:00:22,040 --> 01:00:23,200 Speaker 1: re signed him for five years. 1264 01:00:23,680 --> 01:00:25,560 Speaker 3: That's that's big, that's crazy. 1265 01:00:26,160 --> 01:00:27,640 Speaker 5: It's definitely gonna fun to watch the Pop. 1266 01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:33,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, shout last all us like eyes outlast everybody like Ryes. 1267 01:00:35,160 --> 01:00:37,160 Speaker 5: Well, gee, man, we appreciate you coming here though a 1268 01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:37,560 Speaker 5: lot of fun. 1269 01:00:37,600 --> 01:00:41,880 Speaker 4: I learned a lot today. Hell yeah, and I apologize. 1270 01:00:41,880 --> 01:00:42,960 Speaker 4: You got to be teammates with him? 1271 01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:47,480 Speaker 3: Hold on, you ain't asking one question? One question on 1272 01:00:47,560 --> 01:00:49,840 Speaker 3: that board? Who was his favorite teammate? Who was his 1273 01:00:49,960 --> 01:00:50,640 Speaker 3: best teammate? 1274 01:00:51,040 --> 01:00:54,720 Speaker 1: You know what's funny story? We play against Philly. Yeah, 1275 01:00:55,160 --> 01:00:58,200 Speaker 1: and Dwight Howard was playing and know it just cause 1276 01:00:58,240 --> 01:01:01,560 Speaker 1: og go in. He got a jack that the first minute. 1277 01:01:02,280 --> 01:01:04,080 Speaker 3: Okay, but tell them before I got ejected, I was 1278 01:01:04,120 --> 01:01:08,000 Speaker 3: four for four. I was cooking with no grit. 1279 01:01:11,280 --> 01:01:11,600 Speaker 1: I was on. 1280 01:01:13,200 --> 01:01:14,920 Speaker 2: Listen and when I got in the locker room, the 1281 01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:16,720 Speaker 2: first thing I said to myself is damn I fucked 1282 01:01:16,760 --> 01:01:18,960 Speaker 2: up my big game. I don't even get a chance 1283 01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:20,560 Speaker 2: to play that much. I was, I was about to 1284 01:01:20,600 --> 01:01:23,960 Speaker 2: have a good one. I fucked it up. It goes 1285 01:01:24,040 --> 01:01:25,840 Speaker 2: back to what I tell It goes back to what 1286 01:01:25,920 --> 01:01:27,400 Speaker 2: I tell them. Though it was a situation where I 1287 01:01:27,440 --> 01:01:29,720 Speaker 2: went for a rebound, Dwight threw me down on the ground. 1288 01:01:29,920 --> 01:01:31,920 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. I watched a lot of basketball. 1289 01:01:32,160 --> 01:01:35,000 Speaker 2: I understood that that particular season, Dwight had led the 1290 01:01:35,040 --> 01:01:37,120 Speaker 2: league in those kind of files, offensive files, just throwing 1291 01:01:37,160 --> 01:01:37,560 Speaker 2: people down. 1292 01:01:37,640 --> 01:01:39,200 Speaker 3: That's that muscle ship like we ain't doing it. 1293 01:01:39,640 --> 01:01:41,560 Speaker 2: So at the end of the day, it's like I 1294 01:01:41,680 --> 01:01:44,040 Speaker 2: thought about it because I am playing well. I only 1295 01:01:44,160 --> 01:01:45,880 Speaker 2: been in the game for a little while. But then 1296 01:01:45,920 --> 01:01:47,440 Speaker 2: I thought about what I tell my guys. I always 1297 01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:49,160 Speaker 2: tell my guys, don' let nobody fuck with you. Let 1298 01:01:49,160 --> 01:01:50,840 Speaker 2: everybody get away with shit, because you let them get 1299 01:01:50,840 --> 01:01:52,800 Speaker 2: away with it once, they're gonna keep fucking doing it. 1300 01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:54,880 Speaker 2: And you better believe when they play you again, they 1301 01:01:54,960 --> 01:01:56,919 Speaker 2: gonna remember that your ass was soft the last time. 1302 01:01:57,760 --> 01:02:00,600 Speaker 2: That's and that becomes a reputation in the fucking league 1303 01:02:00,600 --> 01:02:02,280 Speaker 2: of being soft if you let people get away with ship. 1304 01:02:02,720 --> 01:02:04,800 Speaker 3: So after I got up, I. 1305 01:02:04,840 --> 01:02:08,120 Speaker 2: Said, nah, I can't let this ship ride. I can't 1306 01:02:08,200 --> 01:02:10,040 Speaker 2: let this ship ride. And I just had to help 1307 01:02:10,160 --> 01:02:11,960 Speaker 2: my bitness. And when I said something to the white 1308 01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:13,480 Speaker 2: I said, man, what the fuck is you doing? I say, 1309 01:02:13,520 --> 01:02:15,760 Speaker 2: come on with that bullshit, and I didn't expect him 1310 01:02:15,800 --> 01:02:18,040 Speaker 2: to say nothing back, but his response was, what you're 1311 01:02:18,080 --> 01:02:18,400 Speaker 2: gonna do? 1312 01:02:18,680 --> 01:02:22,040 Speaker 3: Oh what I'm gonna donna poke your fucking eyeball. That's 1313 01:02:22,040 --> 01:02:22,480 Speaker 3: what I'm gonna do. 1314 01:02:22,480 --> 01:02:24,240 Speaker 2: I'm gonna put a fucking hole in your fucking head. 1315 01:02:24,280 --> 01:02:26,840 Speaker 2: That's what I'm gonna do. Motherfuck like you tripping? Like 1316 01:02:27,240 --> 01:02:28,800 Speaker 2: why you wanna throw me down? I would play that 1317 01:02:28,880 --> 01:02:32,840 Speaker 2: much water Detroit. Oh man, that fan, I'm gonna whoop 1318 01:02:32,880 --> 01:02:35,040 Speaker 2: his ass once again. 1319 01:02:35,160 --> 01:02:36,480 Speaker 3: It's always with me. 1320 01:02:36,600 --> 01:02:38,200 Speaker 5: Now it's your fault. 1321 01:02:38,640 --> 01:02:40,040 Speaker 3: Nah man, I'm bothering nobody. 1322 01:02:40,120 --> 01:02:40,200 Speaker 5: Bro. 1323 01:02:40,400 --> 01:02:42,120 Speaker 2: I get in the game again. I don't know if 1324 01:02:42,120 --> 01:02:43,760 Speaker 2: this this was the end of the game and now 1325 01:02:44,080 --> 01:02:47,280 Speaker 2: the Philly game. I was actually playing, playing real minutes, 1326 01:02:47,720 --> 01:02:48,480 Speaker 2: That's why I really. 1327 01:02:49,880 --> 01:02:50,640 Speaker 5: And I was doing good. 1328 01:02:51,640 --> 01:02:53,360 Speaker 3: I was fighting for more minutes. Might have seen me 1329 01:02:53,440 --> 01:02:55,280 Speaker 3: play that game, like, you know what, we need this motherfucker. 1330 01:02:55,560 --> 01:02:57,480 Speaker 3: But anyway, I got throwed out, so now we in Detroit, 1331 01:02:57,560 --> 01:02:59,120 Speaker 3: same thing, but I think this is a different I 1332 01:02:59,160 --> 01:03:00,160 Speaker 3: think this is the end of the game. 1333 01:03:00,240 --> 01:03:01,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is at the end of the game. So 1334 01:03:02,040 --> 01:03:03,320 Speaker 2: I get put in at the end of the game 1335 01:03:03,360 --> 01:03:05,160 Speaker 2: once again. I already hate that ship anyway, but I'm 1336 01:03:05,200 --> 01:03:07,320 Speaker 2: a good bet. I got to show professionalism to my 1337 01:03:07,400 --> 01:03:09,640 Speaker 2: young guys. So I get in the motherfucking game. As 1338 01:03:09,680 --> 01:03:11,760 Speaker 2: soon as I get in the fucking game, I get filed. 1339 01:03:11,800 --> 01:03:13,280 Speaker 2: I go to the free throw line. So I'm at 1340 01:03:13,320 --> 01:03:14,920 Speaker 2: the free throw line. This is this fan sitting course out. 1341 01:03:15,040 --> 01:03:17,800 Speaker 2: This motherfucker is just talking shit. Before that, even a 1342 01:03:17,840 --> 01:03:19,960 Speaker 2: couple of times up the court, he talking shit, talking shit. 1343 01:03:20,040 --> 01:03:23,200 Speaker 2: So now I get fouled. Boom, I missed the first 1344 01:03:23,200 --> 01:03:26,120 Speaker 2: free throw. He talking shit. I make the second free throw. 1345 01:03:26,480 --> 01:03:26,800 Speaker 3: Boom. 1346 01:03:27,080 --> 01:03:29,360 Speaker 2: There's another play whereas a file and there's a time out. 1347 01:03:30,120 --> 01:03:32,640 Speaker 2: So now I'm getting ready to walk to the bench 1348 01:03:32,760 --> 01:03:35,800 Speaker 2: for the time out. He did, and I said to myself. 1349 01:03:36,120 --> 01:03:38,360 Speaker 2: I said to myself, I might not get another chance 1350 01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:39,040 Speaker 2: to check this mother. 1351 01:03:40,120 --> 01:03:40,760 Speaker 1: I just might not. 1352 01:03:41,760 --> 01:03:44,160 Speaker 3: So I made a new turn, and I walked over 1353 01:03:44,200 --> 01:03:45,480 Speaker 3: to the motherfucker sitting courtside. 1354 01:03:45,480 --> 01:03:46,800 Speaker 2: I don't know if he was with his boy or 1355 01:03:46,920 --> 01:03:48,439 Speaker 2: he was with his girl, or he was with somebody, 1356 01:03:48,480 --> 01:03:50,160 Speaker 2: and I told her, I say, man, listen, sit your 1357 01:03:50,200 --> 01:03:51,920 Speaker 2: ass down and enjoy the game, because if you was 1358 01:03:51,920 --> 01:03:53,520 Speaker 2: out here in these streets, you wouldn't talk that shit 1359 01:03:53,520 --> 01:03:56,400 Speaker 2: because I whoop your motherfucking as. So enjoy this motherfucking 1360 01:03:56,440 --> 01:03:58,680 Speaker 2: game for you get embarrassed out here, you know what 1361 01:03:58,680 --> 01:03:59,040 Speaker 2: I'm saying. 1362 01:03:59,160 --> 01:03:59,960 Speaker 1: Just just enjoy the game. 1363 01:04:00,240 --> 01:04:02,480 Speaker 2: Enjoyed the show though, you know what I'm saying. And 1364 01:04:02,600 --> 01:04:04,120 Speaker 2: that was literally just it, you know what I'm saying. 1365 01:04:04,120 --> 01:04:06,160 Speaker 2: But once again, I don't believe in bullying. You ain't 1366 01:04:06,160 --> 01:04:08,320 Speaker 2: gonna come to this mother fucking bully me, you know 1367 01:04:08,320 --> 01:04:10,800 Speaker 2: what I'm saying. I don't bother nobody. And the referee 1368 01:04:10,880 --> 01:04:13,440 Speaker 2: that night actually came up to me after the game. 1369 01:04:13,480 --> 01:04:16,000 Speaker 2: I said, good job for standing up for yourself. Yeah, 1370 01:04:16,040 --> 01:04:17,880 Speaker 2: this motherfucker gonna single me out of think I'm want 1371 01:04:17,880 --> 01:04:19,760 Speaker 2: to be bullied. What made you think about this six eight, 1372 01:04:19,760 --> 01:04:21,600 Speaker 2: two hundred and thirty pound nigga, that this the nigga 1373 01:04:21,600 --> 01:04:23,880 Speaker 2: you can bully like. I don't know where you got 1374 01:04:23,920 --> 01:04:27,800 Speaker 2: that ship switch, you know what I'm saying. That was 1375 01:04:28,160 --> 01:04:30,400 Speaker 2: That was That was another situation where once again I 1376 01:04:30,520 --> 01:04:32,080 Speaker 2: tell my guys all the time. I don't let nobody 1377 01:04:32,120 --> 01:04:34,160 Speaker 2: fuck with you, don't let nobody disrespect you, don't let 1378 01:04:34,200 --> 01:04:35,000 Speaker 2: nobody get over on you. 1379 01:04:35,120 --> 01:04:36,240 Speaker 3: That's the ship I learned from my dad. 1380 01:04:36,480 --> 01:04:38,400 Speaker 2: I'm my daddy's son, so my dad to roll over 1381 01:04:38,440 --> 01:04:40,200 Speaker 2: in his grave if I let a motherfucker get over me. 1382 01:04:40,400 --> 01:04:43,440 Speaker 1: But you know what, I appreciate the ogs for that 1383 01:04:43,800 --> 01:04:46,240 Speaker 1: because he always got my back end JJ. 1384 01:04:46,600 --> 01:04:50,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, oh J got everyone. Man, that's too good. 1385 01:04:51,040 --> 01:04:51,840 Speaker 5: That's two people too. 1386 01:04:52,560 --> 01:04:55,240 Speaker 1: I always had this motherfucker back to it. He sure did. 1387 01:04:55,520 --> 01:04:55,800 Speaker 3: Always. 1388 01:04:57,920 --> 01:05:00,960 Speaker 1: I was never scared to fight. No, I'm not a fighter. 1389 01:05:01,040 --> 01:05:01,520 Speaker 1: But like. 1390 01:05:03,080 --> 01:05:05,520 Speaker 2: I gotta tell everybody know that. I gotta tell everybody 1391 01:05:06,880 --> 01:05:08,480 Speaker 2: like I tell everybody. Man, all I want to see 1392 01:05:08,480 --> 01:05:10,080 Speaker 2: you do is stand up for yourself. I do the rest. 1393 01:05:10,840 --> 01:05:11,760 Speaker 2: Just stand up for yourself. 1394 01:05:12,080 --> 01:05:13,200 Speaker 5: I ain't got no problem doing that. 1395 01:05:13,920 --> 01:05:14,000 Speaker 6: Well. 1396 01:05:14,000 --> 01:05:17,200 Speaker 5: I appreciate you coming in, man, appreciate it off from y'all. 1397 01:05:17,240 --> 01:05:21,000 Speaker 2: Get going on the old stories. I ain't bother nobody. Hey, Portland, 1398 01:05:21,040 --> 01:05:21,640 Speaker 2: y'all do better. 1399 01:05:23,960 --> 01:05:25,560 Speaker 5: Oh jeez. I appreciation g