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Speaker 1: The Charlie Kirk Show starts now.

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Speaker 2: But we should have a lot of the things that

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Speaker 2: I think everybody wants to see. Who would not want

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Speaker 2: voter ID only somebody that wants to.

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Speaker 3: Chieve think of it.

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Speaker 2: We do not have voter I D and the Democrats

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Speaker 2: don't want it. And the reason they't want because they

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Speaker 2: want a cheat. Because there's no reason in the world.

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Speaker 2: And I love that debate, Lindsey. I love saying, well,

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Speaker 2: why don't you want voter ID and you watch.

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Speaker 4: Them say, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: If you slay them vote.

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Speaker 2: Then it's a terrible thing.

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Speaker 5: So I know, if the American people demand Senate Majority

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Speaker 5: Leader John Thune bring a.

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Speaker 3: Vote on the Safeguard Amy Voter.

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Speaker 5: Eligibility Act and let's have proof of citizenship to register

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Speaker 5: to vote. We have this one moment in history with

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Speaker 5: Donald Trump at the helm with a trifecta Republican government.

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Speaker 5: I say, nuke the gosh darn filibuster, pass law after

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Speaker 5: law after law.

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Speaker 4: That interview went viral and senators went into action.

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Speaker 6: How do we do this all right?

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Speaker 7: Whether it's part of the spending bill this week, whether

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Speaker 7: it's a separate bill, whether we have to stay there,

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Speaker 7: you know and do a stand in filibuster, whatever it's

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Speaker 7: going to take.

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Speaker 3: We got to get this pass. We've got to secure

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Speaker 3: our elections.

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Speaker 7: I can't imagine the Republicans sent and they would vote

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Speaker 7: against you know, making sure that you have to have

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Speaker 7: proofs of citizenship, dirention vote and to vote. Now, how

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Speaker 7: could anybody I don't know how Democrat could be against this.

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Speaker 5: Well, what exactly did you mean when you said that

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Speaker 5: you should nationalize elections in which fifteenth states?

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Speaker 8: Are you talking?

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Speaker 2: Want to see elections be honest? And if a state

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Speaker 2: can't run an election, I think the people behind me

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Speaker 2: should do something about it, because you're going to When

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Speaker 2: you think about it, the state is an agent for

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Speaker 2: the federal government in elections. I don't know why the

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Speaker 2: federal government doesn't do them anyway, but when you see

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Speaker 2: some of these states about how horribly they run their elections,

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Speaker 2: what disgrace it is. I think the federal government when

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Speaker 2: you see crooked elections, and we had plenty of them,

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Speaker 2: and by the way, we had them last time. But

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Speaker 2: go to twenty twenty and look at the facts that

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Speaker 2: are coming out rigged crooked elections. If we have areas

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Speaker 2: take a look at Detroit, take a look at Pennsylvania,

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Speaker 2: take a look at Philadelphia. You go, take a look

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Speaker 2: at Atlanta, look at some of the places that horrible

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Speaker 2: corruption on elections, and the federal government should not allow that.

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Speaker 2: The federal government should get involved. These are agents of

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Speaker 2: the federal government to count the votes. If they can't

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Speaker 2: count the votes legally and honestly, then somebody else should

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Speaker 2: take them.

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Speaker 3: Constitutions that should be states that ADMISSI.

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Speaker 2: They can administer the election, but they have to do

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Speaker 2: it honestly.

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Speaker 9: Democrats used to believe that border security and immigration enforcement

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Speaker 9: were just common sense ideas.

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Speaker 6: Don't believe it. Take their word for it.

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Speaker 10: Americans are right to demand better border security and better

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Speaker 10: enforcement of the immigration laws. We simply cannot allow people

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Speaker 10: to pour into the United States undetected, undocumented, unchecked. We've

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Speaker 10: had five million undocumented workers come over the borders. It

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Speaker 10: has become an extraordinary problem.

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Speaker 11: All Americans, not only in the states most heavily affected,

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Speaker 11: but in every place in this country, are rightly disturbed

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Speaker 11: by the large numbers of illegal aliens entering our country,

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Speaker 11: and we must do more to stop them.

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Speaker 12: Fun yes or no, would you allow the cities to

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Speaker 12: ignore the federal law.

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Speaker 13: No any city should listen to the Department of Homeland Security.

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Speaker 13: The city made a mistake not to deport someone at

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Speaker 13: the federal government strongly felt.

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Speaker 3: Should be deported.

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Speaker 13: Just because your child gets across the border, that doesn't

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Speaker 13: mean the child gets to stay. We do not think

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Speaker 13: the comprehensive health care benefits should be extended to those

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Speaker 13: who are undocumented workers and illegal aliens.

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Speaker 3: We do not want to do anything to.

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Speaker 13: Encourage more illegal immigration.

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Speaker 14: People say, well, why can't you stop illegal immigrants from

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Speaker 14: coming here, And the number one answer we give is

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Speaker 14: when they come here, they can get jobs, get benefits

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Speaker 14: against the law because of fraud.

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Speaker 6: Illegal immigration is wrong, plain and simple.

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Speaker 15: Hopefully waterform you're doing the way with the concept of

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Speaker 15: the nation state.

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Speaker 16: Our nation, like all nations, has the right and obligation

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Speaker 16: to control its borders, and no matter how decent they are,

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Speaker 16: no matter they're reasons, the eleven million who broke these

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Speaker 16: laws should be held accountable.

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Speaker 9: For decades, these weren't controversial or radical ideas. The only

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Speaker 9: thing that changed is them.

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Speaker 15: Every day there's a battle for your mind, raging information

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Speaker 15: coming from every angle, but the will to the sieve

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Speaker 15: fear not. You found the place for truth, the voice

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Speaker 15: of a generation that still has the will to believe

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Speaker 15: in the greatest country in the history of the world.

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Speaker 8: This is the Charlie Kirk Show. Fuck a lot, here

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Speaker 8: we go on.

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Speaker 4: All right, Welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show. We are

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Speaker 4: in February fourth already, Oh my goodness, where is the

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Speaker 4: time going Here at the Bitcoin dot Com Studios in Phoenix, Arizona.

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Speaker 1: We've got a lot to get to today.

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Speaker 4: This is a jam Pack show and I just want

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Speaker 4: to preview that inn hour two. We've got an incredible

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Speaker 4: journalist that's been covering the Epstein saga for the last

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Speaker 4: six years. He's basically interviewed everybody that there is to

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Speaker 4: name in that that whole saga.

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Speaker 1: We're going to separate fact from fiction.

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Speaker 4: There's a lot of a lot of a lot of

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Speaker 4: fact at this point and a lot of a lot

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Speaker 4: of fiction. And by the way, there's no need for lies,

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Speaker 4: because the truth is just as sensational as the lie.

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Speaker 4: But there's a lot of lies, a lot of lies.

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Speaker 4: I've been working on this. I told you guys yesterday,

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Speaker 4: we're gonna do it right today. So we're gonna do

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Speaker 4: that an hour too. But I just want to just

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Speaker 4: you know, ear muffs for the little kids. There's gonna

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Speaker 4: be some graphic nature just given the nature of the story.

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Speaker 4: So please if you're watching at home with young ones,

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Speaker 4: just please consider that. I'm we're gonna do our best

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Speaker 4: to navigate it and be professional. We Charlie would always

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Speaker 4: try and keep that, keep that rule at the top

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Speaker 4: of our minds. But it is, it is a graphic story.

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Speaker 4: So we're gonna get into it our one. We're gonna

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Speaker 4: we're gonna get right into it. Yesterday there was a

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Speaker 4: preliminary hearing with Tyler Robinson, the accused killer.

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Speaker 1: I certainly believe he's guilty, guilty of sin.

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Speaker 4: And then we're gonna have Senator Coach Tuberville Tupperville, it's

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Speaker 4: gonna be joining us talking about the save ac so

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Speaker 4: lots to get to without further ado, I'm gonna throw it.

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Speaker 1: Over to Blake because Blake had.

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Speaker 4: The job of going over the through all four hours

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Speaker 4: of the hearing yesterday.

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Speaker 12: Alrighty, so this is uh not the trial itself. We'll

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Speaker 12: obviously be covering the trial every day once it happens.

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Speaker 12: This is yet another preliminary hearing. There's been a lot

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Speaker 12: of these, you've heard about them, where they've been trying

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Speaker 12: how exactly Robinson will be dressed when he's in the

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Speaker 12: is they're making a bid, they being the defense team,

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Speaker 12: to disqualify the entire County Attorney's office from prosecuting this case.

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Speaker 12: So these are the County Attorney's office for Utah County.

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Speaker 4: Stop us right there, because there's if you go on

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Speaker 4: the internet, it's like the FBI, the FBI, the FBI.

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Speaker 4: This is not a federal case. This is a state

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Speaker 4: at the local level. The FBI assisted in the initial investigation.

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Speaker 12: Conceivably there could be federal charges someday, you never know,

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Speaker 12: like for example, it's something wann awry with us. But

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Speaker 12: right now, this is a state case in Utah. Utah

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Speaker 12: they've been handling this case and what has emerged is

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Speaker 12: that the daughter of one of the prosecutors on the

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Speaker 12: team is arguing that based on this fact alone, that

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Speaker 12: it should creates a conflict of interest and it should

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Speaker 12: disqualify the entire county attorney's office, which if they succeed,

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Speaker 12: it would mean it would have to be taken over

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Speaker 12: by either another county attorney's office or by the state.

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Speaker 12: Huge delay, huge delay messes everything up, just drags the

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Speaker 4: That's entirely what their plan is now. Thankfully, legal experts.

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Speaker 12: Whove commented on this say, this is a pretty big

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Speaker 12: long shot. It'd be one thing if she was one

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Speaker 12: of the one or two witnesses to the event, right,

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Speaker 12: this is three thousand people and plus everyone saw it

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Speaker 4: But they were asking them about it in court yesterday.

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Speaker 12: And what's interesting about it is it gives us an

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Speaker 12: it might be. So for example, they had agent David Hall,

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Speaker 4: They had him on the stage and they're just cross

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Speaker 12: The state itself was actually a cross examining about all

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Speaker 12: the evidence they'd found, because they're pointing out, did any

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Speaker 1: And he's saying no, over and over again.

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Speaker 4: So, by the way, this was a surprise to some

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Speaker 4: of us, because you know, we've been told that the

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Speaker 6: To be until May.

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Speaker 4: So we got to see this little small glimpse into

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Speaker 4: the way the prosecution is thinking early.

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Speaker 12: So for example, they're just they're going back and forth

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Speaker 12: on the evidence they have, like the fact that they

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Speaker 12: found what they for example, were able to find in

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Speaker 12: Tyler Robinson's apartment.

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Speaker 17: Let's play, Let's show three eighty eight was a search

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Speaker 17: warrant on the defendant's house executed in this case.

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Speaker 18: It was yes, down in Saint George, and.

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Speaker 3: It was evidence obtained from his house. It was yes,

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Speaker 3: what kind of evidence.

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Speaker 18: Kind of putting me on the spot. But if I recalled,

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Speaker 18: there were some bullet casings that had some inscriptions on,

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Speaker 18: there were some tools that were believed to have been

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Speaker 18: used to make those inscriptions. There were targets I believe

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Speaker 18: that had been used, and also targets that had been

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Speaker 18: purchased recently or just prior to the event. There was

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Speaker 18: ringdor Bell camera footage obtained from other residences down there,

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Speaker 18: and then a number of electrical items laptops and such

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Speaker 18: that were collected as part of the warrant.

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Speaker 12: So we have that, for example, we also have they

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Speaker 12: just talk about finding DNA at the scene.

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Speaker 1: For example three eighty five.

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Speaker 17: Is DNA consistent with the defendant DNA found on the

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Speaker 17: firearm that was found at the scene.

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Speaker 18: Yes, the DNA on the firearm was consistent with that

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Speaker 12: Sign of what we might have to expect when this

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Speaker 4: Try to muddle the water on DNA out. There's a

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Speaker 12: Trying to get the exact number, because it's not I

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Speaker 18: That came from the Utah University of Security cameras.

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Speaker 12: There was another though, where they just asked him do

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Speaker 12: We don't know it all for sure, that they have

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Speaker 4: All Right, so we're gonna keep going through some of

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Speaker 12: Yeah, so we've got again part of their argument they're

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Speaker 4: Daughters was there that clip, that's what.

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Speaker 12: And so they asked him about They asked, this is

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Speaker 4: Three eighty nine.

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Speaker 17: I'm going to refer to the prosecutor in your office

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Speaker 17: Do you know who I'm talking about Yes, have you

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Speaker 6: Not that I could remember.

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Speaker 17: Did prosecutor did the presence of Prosecutor A's child have

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Speaker 17: Did that child's presence have any effect on your decision

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Speaker 3: Why did you choose to seek the death penalty in

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Speaker 20: Because the evidence that had been gathered supports the aggravated

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Speaker 1: It's a good answer.

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Speaker 12: Throughout this I feel a lot of confidence. I mean,

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Speaker 17: You said you collected surveillance evidence from Utah Valley University.

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Speaker 18: Yes, we collected a large number of doorbell camera footage

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Speaker 18: So it's a large amount of video footage obtained.

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Speaker 3: And did those help you identify the shooter? They did, yes, So.

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Speaker 3: Three ninety two text messages.

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Speaker 17: Did you collect text messages from associates.

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Speaker 3: Of Tyler Robinson? We did, yes? And did those what

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Speaker 18: So some of the communications between mister Robinson and people

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Speaker 3: Okay, and you say that indicated he had been involved.

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Speaker 12: So all of this, some of it is insight into

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Speaker 4: Let's play three ninety four.

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Speaker 21: We understand that there is pressure on the judicial system

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Speaker 21: and that there is no appearance of conflict. And if

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Speaker 21: that takes a little bit of time for another prosecution

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Speaker 21: office to get up to speed, the investigation is going

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Speaker 21: to continue, the discovery production is going to continue, the

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Speaker 21: lab work is going to continue.

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Speaker 3: None of that is going to change.

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Speaker 4: So just give us a little bit of time to

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Speaker 4: get a whole new prosecution team. That's an obscene request

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Speaker 4: in my opinion. And then there's this whole other storyline,

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Speaker 4: by the way, where they don't want still images of

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Speaker 4: mister Robinson in the media. They have grave concerns, they say,

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Speaker 4: of huge photographic lenses focused on the client, which will

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Speaker 4: interfere with his right to a fair trial. We don't

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Speaker 4: have enough time to play that clip here because we're

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Speaker 4: just coming up against a break, but that these are

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Speaker 4: the central dynamics that we're just getting the first inside

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Speaker 4: of now very telling about how they're going to proceed

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Speaker 4: in their defense.

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Speaker 12: Judge says he's going to rule on this specific request

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Speaker 12: in about three weeks.

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Speaker 4: I think on the twenty fourth, you are written ruling.

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Speaker 4: We'll also get a.

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Speaker 12: Ruling on the filming of the proceedings and so forth

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Speaker 12: around then.

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Speaker 4: But we're going to remain on this. We are asking

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Speaker 4: for cameras in that courtroom.

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Speaker 1: Coach Tuberville.

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Speaker 22: Next, Welcome back to this Real America's Voice news break.

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Speaker 22: I'm Terrence Bates. It has been a very busy day

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Speaker 22: for the Trump administration when it comes to illegal immigration

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Speaker 22: and border security. Just moments ago, we took you to

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Speaker 22: We took you to Arizona Live where DHS Secretary Christy

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Speaker 22: Noom was speaking about border security, more specifically about continuing

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Speaker 22: to build the border wall along that stretch. She also

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Speaker 22: used the opportunity to praise many of the Border Patrol

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Speaker 22: and Immigration ICE ICE excuse me, agents who are working

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Speaker 22: along that area. She of course said that they've been

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Speaker 22: doing a very good job and pointed out some specific

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Speaker 22: instances there. In the meantime, the Department of Homeland Security

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Speaker 22: also cutting the number of federal agents deployed to Minneapolis

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Speaker 22: by some seven hundred. That's the word from Borders our

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Speaker 22: Tom Holman this morning, as he is now overseeing the

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Speaker 22: illegal immigration operation in the Twin cities. Homan also saying

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Speaker 22: that while his focus remains on catching and deporting violent

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Speaker 22: criminal illegal aliens, anyone in the country illegally is a target.

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Speaker 23: I keep hearing it and hearing it and hearing it.

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Speaker 23: We're not surrendering the president's mission on a mass deportation operation.

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Speaker 23: If you're in the country illegally, if we find you,

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Speaker 23: we'll deport you. But this is about target enforcement operation,

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Speaker 23: and that's what we're going to be doing.

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Speaker 22: While the borders are is working to shore up operations

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Speaker 22: in Minneapolis. The Vice President's focused today is on rare

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Speaker 22: earth minerals.

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Speaker 24: So this morning, the Trump administration is proposing a concrete

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Speaker 24: mechanism to return the global critical minerals market to a healthier,

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Speaker 24: more competitive state.

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Speaker 6: Trade zone for.

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Speaker 24: Critical minerals protected from external disruptions through enforceable price florce.

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Speaker 22: And In other headlines this morning, former President Bill Clinton

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Speaker 22: and his wife, former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton are

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Speaker 22: set to testify before Congress related to the body's ongoing

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Speaker 22: investigation into Jeffrey Epstein. The former First Lady is scheduled

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Speaker 22: to be deposed February twenty sixth. Her husband will face

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Speaker 22: the House Oversight Committee. The very next day. The agreement

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Speaker 22: for the former first couple to testify avoids a contempt

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Speaker 22: of Congress vote, which was scheduled to happen today. You

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Speaker 22: probably remember the House Oversight Committee voted to hold the

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Speaker 22: duo in contempt after they failed to show up for

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Speaker 22: their previously scheduled deposition last month. Now the Clintons appeared

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Speaker 22: to be singing a new tune. Now that's a quick

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Speaker 22: check of your headlines. I'm Terrence Bates.

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Speaker 15: It's time for a whole new generation to wise up

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Speaker 15: and rise up the Charlie Kirk Show.

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Speaker 4: All right, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. We

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Speaker 4: are honored to be joined by the one and only

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Speaker 4: coach Tommy Tuberville out of the great state of Alabama.

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Speaker 4: And he's a great senator. Sad to lose him in

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Speaker 4: the Senate, but he's running for governor of that that

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Speaker 4: great state.

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Speaker 1: Coach. Welcome back to the show.

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Speaker 25: Thanks glad to be here. I hope everything's going good

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Speaker 25: with you all. We finally got a little ice moved

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Speaker 25: out here and around our building so we can we

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Speaker 25: can move around, so we can communicate up here in

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Speaker 25: a clown show.

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Speaker 1: You are you in the clown show. Are you backing

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Speaker 1: out south right now?

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Speaker 26: I'm assuming yeah, I'm in DC.

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Speaker 25: It's it's well one thing or another up here, but

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Speaker 25: we're making progress.

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Speaker 6: We funded the government. How about that?

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Speaker 4: Well, that's that's a not a small miracle this day

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Speaker 4: and age, coach, everybody wants to know about the Save Act.

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Speaker 4: Is it going to be brought for vote? Is it

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Speaker 4: going to be pushed forward? It's soon going to get

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Speaker 4: behind it. Please just laid out for our audience, because

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Speaker 4: this is one of the most massively popular agenda items

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Speaker 4: according to Americans if you pull it, and yet DC

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Speaker 4: just can't seem to get out of their own way.

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Speaker 25: No, no, And we're scared to death of the Democrats

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Speaker 25: because they pretty much control you know, what we're doing,

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Speaker 25: don't do in the Senate because we've got to have

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Speaker 25: a few of them vote with us, and nobody wants

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Speaker 25: to put a vote on the floor that's not going

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Speaker 25: to pass. Of course, Chuck Schums bull party when he says,

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Speaker 25: you know, I'm gona geting one Democrat vote, and so

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Speaker 25: it's not going to work. You know, it's not rocket science,

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Speaker 25: it's common sens. There's two things that the American people want,

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Speaker 25: especially in my state of Alabama, they won't close the

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Speaker 25: borders and they want to have a fair voting.

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Speaker 6: And President Trump.

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Speaker 25: Has done a miraculous job of closing the border. Nobody

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Speaker 25: news in of course he's trying to kick people out,

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Speaker 25: which he should continue to do. That's the way I

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Speaker 25: look at it. But the other one is we got

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Speaker 25: to help President out on this because we've got people

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Speaker 25: up here in the House and the Senate that shouldn't

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Speaker 25: be here because there's Blue states that have rigged the elections.

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Speaker 6: There's no doubt.

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Speaker 25: Now we've seen the evidence, voting machines, harvest balloting, vote

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Speaker 25: ten or fifteen times, illegals voting. We have got to

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Speaker 25: do something about these Blue states. And now you know,

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Speaker 25: we all want to say, you know, let's let their

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Speaker 25: states control their own voting.

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Speaker 6: If we do that, we will lose majority.

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Speaker 25: A majority will lose in the House, the Senate.

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Speaker 6: And I don't know whether we can win another.

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Speaker 25: Presidency if we don't get the Save Act through Congress

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Speaker 25: and signed by President Trump.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I completely agree the Save Act.

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Speaker 4: It's just it's one of these frustrations that the base

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Speaker 4: everybody should have with DC. Now I know you've got

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Speaker 4: to be collegial.

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Speaker 6: I know you have to.

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Speaker 4: These are your colleagues in the Senate, and the Senate

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Speaker 4: has a certain decorum which I can appreciate. But help

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Speaker 4: me understand where Leader Thune is at on this issue.

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Speaker 4: Are we going to see a vote? Are we going

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Speaker 4: to get rid of the zombie filibuster to have this vote?

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Speaker 6: There is there?

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Speaker 4: Do you feel the courage welling up inside the man's

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Speaker 4: chest or you know, help us understand where we're at.

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Speaker 25: Well, Thun's in a tough spot because the President wants

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Speaker 25: this voted on, but he knows it won't pass because

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Speaker 25: we got to have sixty votes. The only way to

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Speaker 25: pass this is to bust the philibuster. And we've got

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Speaker 25: ten or fifteen people up here, maybe even more than

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Speaker 25: that on the Republican side that basically said we're not

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Speaker 25: going to bust the filibuster, and so if we don't

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Speaker 25: do that, that means we won't get anything else done

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Speaker 25: in the Senate or the House or the White House

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Speaker 25: for President Trump unless it than an executive order.

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Speaker 6: We're done now.

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Speaker 25: They say we have one more reconciliation that's fifty one votes,

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Speaker 25: But I see very little work.

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Speaker 6: Done on that.

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Speaker 25: But you know, I was not for busting the philibuster,

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Speaker 25: but after listening to these crazy on the left, it's

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Speaker 25: not the Democrats anymore. It's the Democrats Socialist Party of

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Speaker 25: America on the left, and even the Democrats have moved

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Speaker 25: that way. And I know they don't believe in all

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Speaker 25: of it, but to get re elected. And that's what

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Speaker 25: that's what this business is in DC. It's, hey, we

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Speaker 25: want to get re elected where we have more power.

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Speaker 25: It's not about doing what's right for the American people.

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Speaker 25: So we have if we're going to help President Trump,

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Speaker 25: we've got to have enough people step up and say, Okay,

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Speaker 25: you know, let's get this done fifty one votes because

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Speaker 25: if we don't, the various first thing that the Democrats

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Speaker 25: will do when they take power and they'll bust the filibuster,

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Speaker 25: and I don't know whether we'll ever gain any power

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Speaker 25: back because after that they will change everything they possibly

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Speaker 25: can with fifty one votes in the Senate.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So, you know, we had Sener Mark Wayne Mullin

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Speaker 4: on talking about potentially including this in a reconciliation bill.

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Speaker 4: But you're saying you haven't seen much work done on that.

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Speaker 4: That's that's discouraging. If we could get to fifty plus one.

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Speaker 4: The House has already passed this. I just, I mean,

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Speaker 4: I hate it.

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Speaker 12: Very frustrated, very frustrating, frustrating to hear we can't pass

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Speaker 12: controversial stuff.

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Speaker 4: Because there will be backlash and we'll lose the election.

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Speaker 12: But now we're at the point where we can't pass

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Speaker 12: overwhelmingly popular stuff.

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Speaker 1: Because they'll be backlash and something.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Well, and this is what's wild, too, Senator, is

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Speaker 4: that we have you know, you got you got seventy

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Speaker 4: six percent of black voter support voter ID, You've got

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Speaker 4: you know, well over eighty percent of all American voters

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Speaker 4: that support voter ID, and yet the Democrats are obstructing it.

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Speaker 4: And you have to just sort of scratch your head

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Speaker 4: and ask why, because what do they know that their

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Speaker 4: own voters don't know. And the only answer to that

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Speaker 4: question is not a good answer. It's not a it's

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Speaker 4: not a happy answer for this country. It does not

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Speaker 4: bode well for our future. And I would simply submit

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Speaker 4: to your colleagues in the Senate that are blocking this

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Speaker 4: that there's a very good chance that you don't win

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Speaker 4: reelection if you don't have free and fair elections. If

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Speaker 4: you don't insist upon seeing and proving somebody's identity and

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Speaker 4: that they're a citizen.

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Speaker 6: Would you agree, oh, one hundred percent. If we don't

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Speaker 6: pass the Save Act, I think it's over.

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Speaker 25: I just don't see us having fair elections in enough

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Speaker 25: states to where you know we can maintain the seats

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Speaker 25: we have much less take any There's no way in

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Speaker 25: the state of Georgia we should have two senators that

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Speaker 25: are Democrats.

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Speaker 6: No way.

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Speaker 25: There is no way in the state of Arizona we

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Speaker 25: should have two Democrats. There's no way. Same way with Nevada.

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Speaker 25: If you look at some of these other states, it

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Speaker 25: is and we are losing fast.

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Speaker 6: Now.

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Speaker 25: I don't know what Mark Wayne Mullin was saying, but

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Speaker 25: in a reconciliation bill, you can't put something like the

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Speaker 25: Save Act in there. It has to be about budget,

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Speaker 25: has to be about money, and this is not about money.

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Speaker 4: Well, in his defense, his point was that there would

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Speaker 4: be cost in in sort of federalizing certain aspects of

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Speaker 4: the election at the state level, So you could I

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Speaker 4: guess that, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: The question then begins, yeah.

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Speaker 4: The question then becomes can you get it done before

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Speaker 4: September time period? And there is that enough time to

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Speaker 4: you know, put it, put it into action in the states,

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Speaker 4: there'd be lawsuits who knows, who knows.

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Speaker 1: But if we get it done now I completely agree

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Speaker 1: with you.

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Speaker 4: This is this is existential for the country. And you've

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Speaker 4: got all these blue states that are losing voters. They're

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Speaker 4: moving to red states. If we had a proper census

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Speaker 4: in twenty twenty, we'd already be there where the blue

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Speaker 4: wall would be out of play. Wouldn't even matter if

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Speaker 4: you just hold the sun Belt, you win the national election.

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Speaker 4: And so they're moving out. We're winning voter redg battles

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Speaker 4: all across the country. And yet somehow, you know, we've

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Speaker 4: got this party that's importing voters. They're mostly being protected

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Speaker 4: in blue jurisdictions and sanctuary jurisdictions, and you just have

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Speaker 4: to start wondering, you know, it's all rigged. We can

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Speaker 4: see that it's rigged. You don't even have to get

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Speaker 4: into of tabulators, you don't have to get into vote

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Speaker 4: switch and you don't have to get into any of

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Speaker 4: the controversial, the really controversial stuff.

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Speaker 1: Which I believe there's a lot there.

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Speaker 4: You could just simply look at the policies of the

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Speaker 4: left and Democrat Party protecting and by the way, Coach,

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Speaker 4: they're literally going with married women and black people are

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Speaker 4: too dumb to get voter ID, to get to get

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Speaker 4: an ID. That's their whole pitch, Jim Crow two point zero.

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Speaker 4: It's just so cynical and dumb at this point.

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Speaker 25: I yeah, yeah, here's the way you got to look

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Speaker 25: at Okay, the Democratic Socialist Party now has transitioned.

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Speaker 6: They're losing minority votes.

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Speaker 25: President Trump got more black votes in history of a

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Speaker 25: presidential election.

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Speaker 6: Right, they're losing middle class votes.

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Speaker 25: Democrats used to be for the working man that's come

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Speaker 25: over to the Republican side. So the new girlfriend for

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Speaker 25: the Democrat Socialist Party is illegal aliens. They got to

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Speaker 25: have them because they're losing a lot of vote out

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Speaker 25: of those other two groups coming Republican, going back to

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Speaker 25: actually voting for American of the way of life. So

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Speaker 25: the Democrats have to have their their new girlfriend, the

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Speaker 25: illegal aliens. And so that's what you're seeing happen in Minneapolis.

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Speaker 25: You're seeing the same thing happen in California, in New York.

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Speaker 6: And that's the reason they have to keep the.

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Speaker 25: Save Act from going on across the finish line, because

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Speaker 25: if that happens, their new girlfriend is going to find

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Speaker 25: a new boyfriend, is going to be out of this country,

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Speaker 25: is going to be Republicans.

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Speaker 4: So President Trump has been calling for the and I

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Speaker 4: love the way you said that. By the way, the

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Speaker 4: new girlfriend, I'm going to we're gonna steal that with

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Speaker 4: attribution when I remember coach. But the President Trump is

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Speaker 4: calling for the federalization of elections. You know, you could

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Speaker 4: do that through an EO, but it would be much

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Speaker 4: better to have it, you know, done through Congress. I

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Speaker 4: think that is probably a far cry as well. If

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Speaker 4: we can't even get the Save Act done, what do

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Speaker 4: you do you support that and what would that even

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Speaker 4: look like if instituted.

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Speaker 6: Well, you're talking about federalized elections, Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, because President Trump was saying that they are agents

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Speaker 4: of the federal government when they're conducting federal elections.

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Speaker 1: So the federal government.

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Speaker 4: Has a role to play and overseeing local elections because

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Speaker 4: they're not doing it right in places like Detroit, Philadelphia, Atlanta.

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Speaker 4: There's so many issues of states and municipalities proving that

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Speaker 4: they cannot competently run an election that includes federal offices.

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Speaker 25: Yeah, well, you're not going to have a fair election.

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Speaker 25: As long as you don't have an ID for voting,

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Speaker 25: you're not going to have a fair election. If you

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Speaker 25: have harvest balloting, that's not going You're not going to

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Speaker 25: have a fair election. If you have these machines, we've

741
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Speaker 25: got to do away with them. I know this is

742
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Speaker 25: the twenty first century, but folks, we're smart enough to

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Speaker 25: have a ballot, paper ballot. You go market, you turn

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Speaker 25: it in, and you go home. And you also do

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Speaker 25: it in a one day period, not this week or

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Speaker 25: two weeks. It's nonsense to do what we're doing in

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Speaker 25: these blue states.

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Speaker 6: And you know, again they are rigged. These things are rigged.

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Speaker 6: We can't win.

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Speaker 25: And again I just sick to death about what happened

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Speaker 25: in Georgia. You know, when I won in twenty twenty,

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Speaker 25: President Trump called me at nine o'clock after I've won

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Speaker 25: and congratulations, Coach, I said, how's it going? Said, I'm

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Speaker 25: doing great in all the swing states. I'm three hundred

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Speaker 25: thousand up here, four hundred thousand, five hundred thousand up

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Speaker 25: in Georgia. And he loses all of them. And how

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Speaker 25: does that happen?

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Speaker 6: They cheated him. We all know that.

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Speaker 25: And the mainstream media just just hit the ceiling if

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Speaker 25: you say something like that.

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Speaker 6: But folks, facts of facts. You know, all you got

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Speaker 6: to do now is.

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Speaker 25: Look at the videos, all the information coming out. You know,

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Speaker 25: there was Republicans that were sued and went to jail

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Speaker 25: for this nonsense. And again, we got to take our

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Speaker 25: country back. We got to quit playing soft. And that's

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Speaker 25: the reason we don't bust this filibuster. We're just handed

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Speaker 25: on a silver platter to the demo as the United

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Speaker 25: States of America to turn socialist and communists, and it's

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Speaker 25: telling you it's coming in exactly. And I'm sick of

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Speaker 25: all that. I mean, this is a country of that

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Speaker 25: was built by our forefathers and we're not going to

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Speaker 25: give it up. Christianity built this country. We're not going

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Speaker 25: to give it to a group of people like you

775
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Speaker 25: just said, these Islamics, terrorist who are coming here to

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Speaker 25: not assimilate, but to tear it down. And just look

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Speaker 25: in Texas, my god, they have taken over cities in Texas,

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Speaker 25: the Deep South.

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Speaker 6: It just makes me sick at my stomach.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, Senator, I wanted to talk more about Shari

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Speaker 4: a lot, but I'm running out of time.

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Speaker 1: But God bless you.

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Speaker 4: Keep fighting past the save act, find a way, do

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Speaker 4: what you gotta do.

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Speaker 1: Senator, thank you.

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Speaker 26: Yeah, we got to get it across the goal line.

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Speaker 26: Thank you, God bless you. We'll be right back, all right,

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Speaker 12: Yep, we had the clashes between ICE and all of

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Speaker 12: the agitators, agitators, insurrectionists convergence in Minneapolis, and the goal

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Speaker 22: Now.

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Speaker 12: Part of what people have seen and we should lead

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Speaker 12: with this is he has announced that they surged seven

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Speaker 12: thousand people into the Minneapolis maybe a three thousand, but

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Speaker 12: he's announced that they're dialing back that amount of search

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Speaker 12: and so make a headline four to seventeen.

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Speaker 23: I have announced, effective immediately, we will draw down seven

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Speaker 23: hundred people affected today, seven hundred long enforce in personnel.

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Speaker 12: Okay, now the why the why is coming down, and

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Speaker 12: also just keep in mind that this has to happen

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Speaker 12: to twenty percent of ICE in Minneapolis, as satisfying as

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Speaker 12: that might be sometimes. But he explains that the reason

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Speaker 12: they're able to pull these out is that they're getting

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Speaker 12: a new cooperation from the State of Minnesota the City

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Speaker 12: of Minneapolis that they previously were not able to get.

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Speaker 4: So this is four eighteen.

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Speaker 23: We currently have an unprecedented number of counties communicating with

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Speaker 23: US now and allowing ICE to take custody of illegal

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Speaker 23: alilines before they hit the streets. Unprecedented cooperation. Now say

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Speaker 23: it again, this is efficient. Requires only one or two

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Speaker 23: officers to assume custody of a criminal alien target, rather

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Speaker 23: than eight or ten officers going into the community and

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Speaker 23: arresting that public safety threat. This frees up more officers

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Speaker 23: to arrest remove criminal aliens. More officers taking custody of

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Speaker 23: criminal aliens directly from the jails means less offerers on

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Speaker 23: the street doing criminal operations. This is smart, longth worstman,

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Speaker 23: not less law enforcement.

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Speaker 4: And it's worth saying Tom Holman, gosh, I just think

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Speaker 4: he's the He's so disciplined in his role. That is

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Speaker 4: what's so. Tom Holman is a field general. We love Tom.

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Speaker 4: He's been on the show multiple times. He loved Charlie.

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Speaker 4: Charlie loved Tom, and we continue that relationship with Tom.

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Speaker 1: So he's great.

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Speaker 4: He's but he's a field general. But more importantly for

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Speaker 4: this role right now, is he's a great disciplined messenger.

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Speaker 4: And so of course all of us in the base

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Speaker 4: are going, hey, hey, hey, you're drawn back?

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Speaker 1: Was it not?

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Speaker 6: You know?

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Speaker 4: Is it only the worst first? Because I'm an all

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Speaker 4: of them guy, I'll just be really clear. You break

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Speaker 4: our laws, you invade our country, You participate in the

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Speaker 4: erasure of the American culture that we love and we

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Speaker 4: want to defend for our next generation, our kids and

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Speaker 4: our grandkids. You come into this country like that. Heck, no,

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Speaker 4: you're out. There's no negotiation. There's no sob story that's

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Speaker 4: gonna move me off that point. Okay, you do not

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Speaker 4: bend the knee to these terrorists. So Tom, being the

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Speaker 4: great messenger that he is, made sure he addressed exactly

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Speaker 4: that concern four oh nine.

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Speaker 1: Clip four o nine.

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Speaker 23: For those who are not a national security threat or

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Speaker 23: public safety public safety risk, you are not exempt from

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Speaker 23: immigration enforcement actions. If you're in the country legally, you

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Speaker 23: are not off the table. And let me be clear,

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Speaker 23: if President Trump fully intends to achieve mass deportations during

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Speaker 23: this administration, and immigration enforcement actions will continue every day

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Speaker 23: throughout this country.

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Speaker 4: So let me explain why this is important, what's happening here,

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Speaker 4: and why the base needs to get behind what Tom's

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Speaker 4: doing with the drawdown. Now it was BBC, it was NBC,

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Speaker 4: it was Washington Post, all of them led with the drawdown.

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Speaker 4: So why is that important because and bradbar had a

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Speaker 4: great piece on this, it's that the poll shows the

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Speaker 4: majority of voters black. President Trump's my immigration policy even

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Speaker 4: despite all this media magnified Democrat claims that the enforcement

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Speaker 4: is hurting his poll numbers. What they don't like is

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Speaker 4: they don't like seeing the stuff in the streets. Okay,

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Speaker 4: there's normies. I personally have no problem with it. Let

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Speaker 4: me just be very clear. I have zero problem with it.

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Speaker 4: But there's normies, there's independence. All of them support mass deportations.

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Speaker 4: They want to get illegals out, but they don't want

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Speaker 4: to see the images. And the Democrats know that, so

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Speaker 4: they want to weaponize the images. So we got to

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Speaker 4: make it so that they can't do that. All right,

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Speaker 4: You got to be thinking strategically, and the chess moves

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Speaker 4: ahead of two.

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Speaker 1: There's stuff to.

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Speaker 12: Flag here, which so again you need fewer agents. It's

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Speaker 12: vastly less disruptive and vastly like more focused on the

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Speaker 12: worst actors when you're letting them in jails, letting them

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Speaker 12: into prisons, letting them actually take these malefactors right when

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Speaker 12: they're most easily available, and they get them out of

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Speaker 12: the country. And it has to be emphasized over and

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Speaker 12: over again that the left does not want this. The

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Speaker 12: left wants criminals in America. They want them robbing Americans,

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Speaker 12: they want them raping Americans, they want them killing Americans.

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Speaker 4: And you can prove this.

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Speaker 12: You can go to the Washington Post this morning. This

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Speaker 12: is the headline today Washington Post. Several states moved to

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Speaker 12: ban local cooperation in immigration arrests. So Maryland is going

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Speaker 12: to basically ban any of their local law enforcement agencies

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Speaker 12: anywhere in the state from working with ice PIP, for example,

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Speaker 12: letting them into jails. They're trying to do this in

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Speaker 12: New Mexico, in New York, in Hawaii, in Virginia. The

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Speaker 12: only reason to do this is that you.

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Speaker 4: Want foreign criminals in America, and you period you want

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Speaker 4: it for the census and the Electoral College, congressional seats

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Speaker 4: and voters.

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Speaker 12: But it would be so easy for them to say, Okay,

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Speaker 12: just take these criminals, and they'll try to divert it

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Speaker 12: that way. And oh and then they can complain if

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Speaker 12: they go after someone who hasn't committed any crime besides

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Speaker 12: breaking into this country. League, they could do it, but

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Speaker 12: instead they are so fanatical they want the worst criminals here.

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Speaker 4: They would pay money to fly them into the kill

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Speaker 4: America because they did. Yeah, they want Maryland Dad to

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Speaker 4: be siping margueritas in Maryland. So but that's not gonna happen.

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Speaker 4: We're gonna get our mass deportations. Either cooperate, do it

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Speaker 4: the easy way, or you do it the hard way.

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Speaker 4: We'd much rather have it the easy way. Epstein Hour two.

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Speaker 4: You're not gonna want to miss it.

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Speaker 22: Welcome back to this Real America's Voice news break. I'm

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Speaker 22: Terrence Bates. It has been a very busy day for

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Speaker 22: the Trump administration when it comes to illegal immigration and

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Speaker 22: border security. Just moments ago, we took you to We

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Speaker 22: took you to Arizona Live where DHS Secretary Christy Noom

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Speaker 22: was speaking about border security, more specifically about continuing to

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Speaker 22: build the border wall along that stretch. She also used

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Speaker 22: the opportunity to praise many of the Border patrol and

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Speaker 22: Immigration ICE and ICE excuse me agents who are working

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Speaker 22: along that area. She of course said that they've been

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Speaker 22: doing a very good job and point out some specific

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Speaker 22: instances thereof. In the meantime, the Department of Homeland Security

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Speaker 22: also cutting the number of federal agents deployed to Minneapolis

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Speaker 22: by some seven hundred. That's the word from Borders our

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Speaker 22: Tom Holman this morning, as he is now overseeing the

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Speaker 22: illegal immigration operation in the Twin Cities. Homan also saying

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Speaker 22: that while his focus remains on catching and deporting violent

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Speaker 22: criminal illegal aliens, anyone in the country illegally is a target.

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Speaker 23: I keep hearing it and hearing it and hearing it.

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Speaker 23: We're not surrendering the president's mission on a mass deportation operation.

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Speaker 23: If you're in the country illegally, if we find you,

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Speaker 23: we'll deport you. But this is about target enforcement operation,

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Speaker 23: and that's what we're going.

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Speaker 6: To be doing.

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Speaker 22: While the Borders are is working to shore up operations

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Speaker 22: in Minneapolis. The Vice President's focused today is on rare

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Speaker 22: earth minerals.

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Speaker 24: So this morning, the Trump administration is proposing a concrete

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Speaker 24: mechanism to return the global critical minerals market to a healthier,

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Speaker 24: more competitive state.

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Speaker 6: A preferential trade.

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Speaker 24: Zone for critical minerals protected from external disruptions through enforceable

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Speaker 24: price floors. We will establish reference prices for critical minerals

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Speaker 24: at each stage of production, pricing that reflects real world

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Speaker 24: fair market value, and for members of the preferential zone.

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Speaker 24: These reference prices will operate as a floor maintained through

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Speaker 24: adjustable tariffs to uphold pricing integrity.

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Speaker 22: And just into our newsroom moments ago, the man convicted

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Speaker 22: of trying to assassinate President Trump while the Commander in

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Speaker 22: chief played golf in Florida will spend the rest of

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Speaker 22: his life in prison. The fifty nine year old would

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Speaker 22: be assassin was caught after a secret Service agent noticed

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Speaker 22: him lurking in some bushes along the golf course. He

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Speaker 22: was found guilty on all charges against him back in September,

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Speaker 22: and unsuccessfully tried to stab himself after the verdict was returned.

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Speaker 22: As for today's sentencing, prosecutors asked for life in prison

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Speaker 22: without parole. The defense asked for a sentence of twenty

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Speaker 22: seven years in prisons. The failed assassin is set to

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Speaker 22: turn sixty years old this year. In addition to life

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Speaker 22: in prison, the guy also was slapped with the consecutive

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Speaker 22: seven year sentence for one of his gun convictions. Immigrations

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Speaker 22: and Customs Enforcement says that no operations are planned for

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Speaker 22: Super Bowl sixty in San Francisco's in the San Francisco

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Speaker 22: area this weekend. The National Football League's chief security officer says,

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Speaker 22: there will, however, be federal law enforcement at and around

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Speaker 22: the Big Game.

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Speaker 27: Our Department of Homeland Security, who's been our partner for

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Speaker 27: more than twenty years now, is made up of more

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Speaker 27: than twenty different departments, will send a variety of different

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Speaker 27: agencies that does.

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Speaker 3: Not include ICE.

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Speaker 27: There is not ICE deployed with us at the Super Bowl,

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Speaker 27: and I don't believe there has been in the last

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Speaker 27: several but most of the other departments, from the Coastguard to.

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Speaker 4: Many other agencies are here.

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Speaker 22: Sunday's game has designated a SEER one event, which is

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Speaker 22: the second highest security assessment rating for a large scale event.

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Speaker 22: Concern was raised about the possability of ICE operations when

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Speaker 22: it was announced that reggaeton artist Bad Bunny would be

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Speaker 22: performing the Super Bowl halftime show. The performance likely will

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Speaker 22: be totally, if not partially, in Spanish. In the meantime,

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Speaker 22: there's a billboard that's set up in San Francisco's Fisherman's

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Speaker 22: Wharf district that really is all the buzz this morning.

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Speaker 16: There you see it.

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Speaker 22: As you can see, it appears to support Ice, saying

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Speaker 22: that defensive of the player of the year is Ice.

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Speaker 22: And in other headlines, this morning, former President Bill Clinton

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Speaker 22: and his wife, former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton are

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Speaker 22: set to testify before Congress related to the body's ongoing

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Speaker 22: investigation into Jeffrey Epstein. The former First Lady is scheduled

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Speaker 22: to be deposed February twenty sixth to her husband will

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Speaker 22: face the House Oversight Committee the.

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Speaker 4: Very next day.

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Speaker 22: The agreement for the former first couple to testify avoids

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Speaker 22: the contempt of Congress vote, which was scheduled to happen today.

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Speaker 22: You probably remember the House Oversight Committee voted to hold

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Speaker 22: the duo in contempt after they failed to show up

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Speaker 22: for the previously scheduled deposition last month. Now the Clintons

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Speaker 22: appear to be singing a new tune. Now that's a

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Speaker 22: greick check of your headlines. I'm Terrence Bates.

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Speaker 4: All right, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. Our

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Speaker 4: two is now underway and has promised we are going

1037
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Speaker 4: to dive headlong into everything. And we told you yesterday

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Speaker 4: we want to do it right. And I had been

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Speaker 4: hearing this gentleman's name mentioned in multiple different places as

1040
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Speaker 4: the guy that's been working on this for years and

1041
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Speaker 4: has interviewed all of the main players, maybe not all,

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Speaker 4: but darn near all, including Jeffrey Hepstein's brother and many

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Speaker 4: of the alleged victims and so on and so forth,

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Speaker 4: and so without further do, we're going to welcome him

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Speaker 4: onto the show. His name is Jay Beecher. He's an

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Speaker 4: investigative journalist. He's British, so he also has an accent.

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Speaker 4: You can find him at substack, substack dot com, forward

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Speaker 4: slash at j Beecher. We'll have those on the lowers

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Speaker 4: the entire time. We're gonna blow the brakes. We'll go

1050
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Speaker 4: in and out, but we're gonna blow the breaks and

1051
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Speaker 4: the entire lot to talk about. So a lot to

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Speaker 4: talk about. So welcome to the show. Jay, honored to

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Speaker 4: have you having from the Mother Island there in the UK. So,

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Speaker 4: just by way of introduction for our audience that doesn't

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Speaker 4: know who you are and what you've been up to,

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Speaker 4: how long have you been working on investigating the Jeffrey

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Speaker 4: Epstein saga and maybe just some of the people that

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Speaker 4: you've interviewed along the way.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, sure.

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Speaker 28: So I got into the story by reading just a

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Speaker 28: generic article about one of the allegations made by Virginia Jeffrey,

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Speaker 28: one of the most vocal Epstein accusers, and I was

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Speaker 28: just going to write a bot basic article and you know,

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Speaker 28: sort of copying what she said. And then I started

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Speaker 28: to find some contradictions in there, and it led me

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Speaker 28: down in a rabbit hole. And six years this is

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Speaker 28: six years ago. So for the past six years, I've

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Speaker 28: been traveling the world really interviewing Jeffrey Epstein's brother, some

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Speaker 28: of the Maxwell family, but also Professor Alan Dershowitz, Virginia

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Speaker 28: deor phrase in a circle, and the accused and the accusers.

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Speaker 28: So at the moment, the media just go one side,

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Speaker 28: and I only really they'll interview the accusers, they'll print

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Speaker 28: the allegations of abatim. There's very minimal fact checking involved.

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Speaker 28: They're just looking for sensational headlines. So I wanted to

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Speaker 28: get both sides of the story so that people can

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Speaker 28: make up their own minds and see the full facts.

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Speaker 4: Well, so you know, we talked. I did a little

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Speaker 4: bit of a pre interview car with you, just because

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Speaker 4: I want to understand where you were coming from.

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Speaker 1: On all of this.

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Speaker 4: Your substat goes into great detail. I encourage people to

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Speaker 4: check it out. There what brings us to this point, Now,

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Speaker 4: there was a transparent the Act pass. President Trump signed

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Speaker 4: it despite some of his misgivings.

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Speaker 12: Which I feel a lot of his misgivings have played

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Speaker 12: at panned out because what he said when he was

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Speaker 12: opposing it, he said, there's going to be a lot

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Speaker 12: of stuff in this that's going to hurt inn innocent

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Speaker 12: people kind of lead to a lot of wild allegations

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Speaker 12: and certainly embarrassing true.

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Speaker 4: Stuff for a lot of people.

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Speaker 12: We've seen that about Bill Gates, We've seen that about

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Speaker 12: Larry Summers, Elon Musk for example. Certainly some people have

1094
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Speaker 12: had real things embarrass them. But it also at least

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Speaker 12: you can correct me if I'm wrong, Jay, But I

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Speaker 12: don't feel that it's it's blown open. What some people

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Speaker 12: were saying would be revealed like a massive blackmail ring

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Speaker 12: or the like.

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Speaker 4: And let me put a pin on that because a

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Speaker 4: fine point you said something you said, we don't need

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Speaker 4: to sensationalize the lies because the truth is sensational enough.

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Speaker 4: And I think that's a really good guiding principle for

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Speaker 4: this whole conversation again, the whole hour about it. So

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Speaker 4: explain how we got here and what some of the

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Speaker 4: new evidence is. And then I want to go through

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Speaker 4: name by name, allegation and by allegation.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 28: Sure, So you know it stems back to a man

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Speaker 28: being arrested for having sex, well he didn't actually have sex,

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Speaker 28: but having a sexual encounter with underage girls. So this

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Speaker 28: took place because originally Jeffrey Epstein was a typical sort

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Speaker 28: of Hugh. Hefnotype, he liked to be surrounded by attractive women,

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Speaker 28: and he was a creep. Let's not there's no whitewashing

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Speaker 28: of Jeffrey Epstein. He was an absolute creep and pervert.

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Speaker 28: But he did surround himself with girls between the ages

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Speaker 28: of eighteen and around about twenty five, some of them

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Speaker 28: a bit older, So nothing illegal there. It wasn't until

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Speaker 28: Virginia Jeffrey came onto the scene. And Jeffrey at this

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Speaker 28: time was well known for telling the girls, if you

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Speaker 28: bring me more girls, I will give you extra money.

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Speaker 28: It's sort of like a finder's fee, So we use

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Speaker 28: this term recruitment, and it's quite sinister. It was more

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Speaker 28: of sort of introductions, sleazy as hell, obviously, but Virginia

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Speaker 28: took it upon herself to whereas Jeffrey Epson didn't actually

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Speaker 28: ask to get under age girls. Virginia went into her

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Speaker 28: local community and got vulnerable school girls who were around

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Speaker 28: about fourteen, some of them were sixteen, seventeen, etc. And

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Speaker 28: all of this is documented in the police reports. Virginia

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Speaker 28: got them to lie about their ages. Another girl called

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Speaker 28: Haley Robson, who was recruited by Virginia, got these girls

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Speaker 28: to lie about their ages so she would put them

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Speaker 28: in makeup. She would put them in clothes that made

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Speaker 28: them look more adult, and then she would drive them

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Speaker 28: to Jeffrey Epstein and once in the house, Jeffrey is

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Speaker 28: actually documented as asking are you over eighteen? And the

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Speaker 28: girls admitted to the police that they had lied and

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Speaker 28: said that they were over eighteen. So long story short,

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Speaker 28: one of them spilled the beans. Jeffrey Epstein was arrested

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Speaker 28: because he had committed a felony even though he didn't

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Speaker 28: know their age, you know, and he took a lie

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Speaker 28: detective test. The lie detected test proved that he was

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Speaker 28: telling the true that he didn't know that they were

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Speaker 28: under eighteen. Beavorway, he committed a crime, he went to prison.

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Speaker 28: The story would have died there if it were not

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Speaker 28: for the fact that Jeffrey Epstein was friends and associated

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Speaker 28: with some of the most famous and richest people in

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Speaker 28: the world, some of the most influential people from presidents

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00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:20,520
Speaker 28: to prime minister's, Hollywood stars, directors, or all sorts of people,

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Speaker 28: and so the media wanted to latch onto this. Then

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Speaker 28: at this halfway through the time, the story actually did

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Speaker 28: go quite quiet. Then you had the qan on. You

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Speaker 28: had Pizzagate shortly before that, talking about elite trafficking networks

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Speaker 28: at play. Then you had the Me Too movement come

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Speaker 28: up right in the middle of all of this, and

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Speaker 28: so people were focused on the Jeffrey Epstein scandal. Again.

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Speaker 28: You had thetional victims, and they are victims because they

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Speaker 28: were under age, you know, these school girls. Although they

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00:58:51,560 --> 00:58:55,240
Speaker 28: lied about their ages, they still were vulnerable young school girls.

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Speaker 28: They started filing some lawsuits. There was about six different girls,

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Speaker 28: maybe a few, and then the lawyers thought this is

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Speaker 28: a great way to make some money, and then all

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Speaker 28: these salacious stories came out. So you had Alan Dershowitz

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Speaker 28: accused falsely accused by Virginia Geffrey, and this is the

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Speaker 28: lawyer of Donald Trump. You had Donald Trump falsely accused

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Speaker 28: by a woman, and it turned out to have been orchestrated.

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Speaker 28: It was a hoax that was orchestrated actually by a

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Speaker 28: producer of the Jerry Springer Show. But then Virginia had

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Speaker 28: fed into this narrative, this Pizzagate conspiracy of a global

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Speaker 28: trafficking network. She accused said that she'd slept with foreign

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Speaker 28: presidents and then later admitted that she'd never met any

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Speaker 28: in her life. But that wasn't picked up by the

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Speaker 28: media intentionally because that destroyed the narrative. And so it's

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Speaker 28: dragged on and on and on, and then it became

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Speaker 28: heavily politicized because it's become a great smear campaign. Anybody

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Speaker 28: who was ever you know, snapped with it in a

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Speaker 28: photograph of Jeffrey Epstein, anyone who had a couple tea

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Speaker 28: or a coffee with him, or some of his friends

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Speaker 28: who had business dealings with him, they were suddenly targeted

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Speaker 28: via guilt by association. And then there was a big

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Speaker 28: build up. How can we turn this against Donald Trump? Yeah, well,

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Speaker 28: and that's gene I've been critical with.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, of course, I mean I don't consider you to

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Speaker 4: be some fan of President Trump. I you know, it's

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Speaker 4: interesting because I do think that you mentioned the Pizzagate,

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Speaker 4: the me too Q and on all of that stuff,

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Speaker 4: and the confluence of those stories mixed with President Trump

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Speaker 4: coming into power, and everybody understood that President Trump knew

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Speaker 4: Jeffrey Epstein and associated with him. So we really have

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Speaker 4: to sort of start there with the President Trump allegations,

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Speaker 4: because that was long. The assumption is that we were

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Speaker 4: going to find that President Trump had done some untoward

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Speaker 4: things with underage women, you know, yes or no, and

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Speaker 4: then expound on it. Did president as President Trump been,

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Speaker 4: Is there anything in there that would be criminal, that

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Speaker 4: would be salacious, even embarrassing?

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Speaker 28: Absolutely nothing, Absolutely nothing, And I think it's very telling.

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Speaker 28: So the reason, the only reason I agree with Donald

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Speaker 28: Trump on certain policies I disagree with on others. I

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Speaker 28: think that's healthy with politicians. I'm not one of these,

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Speaker 28: you know, believe them and everything. But I have not

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Speaker 28: found a single piece of evidence to suggest that Donald

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Speaker 28: Trump has done anything wrong at all. He was bound

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Speaker 28: to have been in that he was in the same

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Speaker 28: social circles as Jeffrey Epstein. We know that he had

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Speaker 28: a friendship with Jeffrey Epstein at one time, and then

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Speaker 28: he ended that relationship. And what's very telling is that

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Speaker 28: from the very beginning, none of these vocal accusers and

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Speaker 28: some of the genuine victims, absolutely none of them have

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Speaker 28: accused him of doing anything wrong. In fact, Virginia Jeffrey

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Speaker 28: herself said that he was a gentleman. You know that

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Speaker 28: he didn't do anything.

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Speaker 4: We just have to have to the other side of

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Speaker 4: a break. We'll continue on this in a second.

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Speaker 1: Seven.

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Speaker 12: So yeah, Jay, I will let you continue here in

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Speaker 12: a second. But it's very funny to me that I

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Speaker 12: feel like that's a pattern we've had for over a

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Speaker 12: decade at this point, Like when you think of how

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Speaker 12: scrutinized Donald Trump's entire existence has been, every business relationship

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Speaker 12: he's ever had, every political engagement you've ever had, and

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Speaker 12: now this, it kind of is remarkable how clean he

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Speaker 12: ends up coming out of everything.

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Speaker 4: They couldn't get anything on his.

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Speaker 12: Business other than oh he like he lied to get

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Speaker 12: a loan that no one complained about other than the

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Speaker 12: State of I don't know, I'm just digressing here, but yeah,

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Speaker 12: it's funny here, even on this, you know, he could

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Speaker 12: have had something like Bill Gates where it's not necessarily criminal,

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Speaker 12: but it's like highly embarrassing, and they don't even have that,

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Speaker 12: it seems. And you're I believe you're, as you said,

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Speaker 12: a man who's criticized the president a lot.

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Speaker 26: Yeah.

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Speaker 28: So with regards to the Ukraine, I criticize him heavily,

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Speaker 28: and I have criticized him quite in the past. I've

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Speaker 28: supported him in the past and certain things. I do

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Speaker 28: it with all politicians. I'm not really a you know,

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Speaker 28: sort of a I pick a team and stick with

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Speaker 28: it no matter what. But on this one million percent

1239
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Speaker 28: is they are just weaponizing it to try and attack it.

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Speaker 28: And I think they're devastated that they found no ammunition

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Speaker 28: against him and it's sort of backfired.

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Speaker 4: I really do so, Jay, I asked you a very

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Speaker 4: pointed question, and I said, besides. When we were talking before,

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Speaker 4: I said, besides Jeffrey Epstein, because I do believe Jeffrey

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Speaker 4: Epstein is a creep, He's a sleeze. He was a

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Speaker 4: crook and a fraudster actually, and we can get into that,

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Speaker 4: But who who are the villains of this story? Because

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Speaker 4: that is what's driving a lot of this. They want

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Speaker 4: to see the list. They want to see who was

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Speaker 4: sleeping with underage girls, And you gave me a very

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Speaker 4: surprising answer.

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Speaker 9: What was that.

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Speaker 28: Well, if people want to so, I do not victim

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Speaker 28: or anything like that, because what I'm trying to do

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Speaker 28: is expose the genuine victims and all of this, and

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Speaker 28: there are genuine victims, and those victims are the people

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Speaker 28: who were recruited by adults. They were adults at the time,

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Speaker 28: Virginia Giffrey, Hailey Robson, and a couple of others. And

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Speaker 28: yet that's the backwardness in all of this. They have

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Speaker 28: been projected as the heroes of the story, when in

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Speaker 28: fact they were the villains. And they have admitted that

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Speaker 28: they went out of their way to target groom and

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Speaker 28: recruit underage girls, schoolgirls, get them to lie about their

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Speaker 28: ages and take them to a rich guy who they

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Speaker 28: knew would then abuse them. And yet the media, because

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Speaker 28: that does not fit the narratives, they refuse to cover that.

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Speaker 28: They have just canonized these people, and anybody who criticizes

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Speaker 28: them is called a victim shamer. I've interviewed Virginia Giffray's

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Speaker 28: ex partner and he's openly admitted that whilst he was

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Speaker 28: over eighteen. He was hunting down schoolgirls to sell.

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Speaker 4: So Jeff j Yeah, Jason, hold that out. The police

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Speaker 4: have that on record. That's amazing. We'll have a repeat

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Speaker 4: that on the other side of this break.

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Speaker 1: One second.

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Speaker 4: We are back. We are doing a deep dive on

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Speaker 4: all the new allegations that have come out from this

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Speaker 4: Beach or Jay. I asked you who the villain was,

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Speaker 4: and you said that there are real victims, these underage

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Speaker 4: girls that were recruited. They were dressed up and fancy

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Speaker 4: clothes and makeup, and they were told to lie about

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Speaker 4: their age. Apparently it sounds like Jeffrey Epstein asked if

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Speaker 4: they were over eighteen. I'm not saying what Jeffrey Epstein

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Speaker 4: was doing is okay, by the way, that's that's gross

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Speaker 4: that I just don't think that's even up for debate,

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Speaker 4: Like I don't Jeffrey Epstein's a creep, a crook, a fraudster,

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Speaker 4: and that's never been up everything else. But but how

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Speaker 4: did this happen and who else was involved?

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Speaker 1: Is really the central question.

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Speaker 4: And you you're telling me that virgin Guffy I believe

1315
01:07:01,680 --> 01:07:05,520
Speaker 4: I'm saying her name right, is it is implicated the

1316
01:07:05,560 --> 01:07:07,320
Speaker 4: police know it that she was the one that was

1317
01:07:07,400 --> 01:07:10,360
Speaker 4: going out grooming these these young women, and she had

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Speaker 4: an accomplice, I forget the name. And then that that

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01:07:13,160 --> 01:07:16,880
Speaker 4: begs the question, what was Gallaine Maxwell doing? Was she

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Speaker 4: aware that these underage women were getting recruited?

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Speaker 28: Well that's that's the travisy in all of this is

1322
01:07:24,200 --> 01:07:26,840
Speaker 28: that the media just refused to report the truth because

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01:07:26,880 --> 01:07:30,280
Speaker 28: it doesn't fit the narrative. And it was Virginia, Jeffrey

1324
01:07:30,480 --> 01:07:33,920
Speaker 28: and a girl called Halie Robson who Virginia had introduced

1325
01:07:33,960 --> 01:07:36,120
Speaker 28: to Jeffrey Epstein, who were going out of their way

1326
01:07:36,480 --> 01:07:39,760
Speaker 28: to find schoolgirls to make money. It was all financially motivated.

1327
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Speaker 28: They knew what they were doing. I have interviewed the

1328
01:07:43,600 --> 01:07:47,480
Speaker 28: mother of one of Virginia's victims, So Karly and and you,

1329
01:07:47,640 --> 01:07:54,040
Speaker 28: Arnia sadly was groomed by Virginia, given drugs, put on

1330
01:07:54,160 --> 01:07:58,000
Speaker 28: this life of prostitution, and eventually she was found dead

1331
01:07:58,160 --> 01:08:02,240
Speaker 28: in a hotel room of a drug overdose. And so

1332
01:08:02,360 --> 01:08:05,240
Speaker 28: she destroyed. Virginia destroyed a lot of lives. But at

1333
01:08:05,280 --> 01:08:08,560
Speaker 28: the time, the me too mantra was believe all women,

1334
01:08:08,840 --> 01:08:11,000
Speaker 28: and the media were very adamant that they didn't want

1335
01:08:11,040 --> 01:08:15,680
Speaker 28: to deviate from that whatsoever. So they Virginia's story was newsworthy.

1336
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Speaker 28: It was brilliant for journalists because here she is a

1337
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Speaker 28: cute saying that she'd slept with foreign presidents, that she'd

1338
01:08:22,479 --> 01:08:26,080
Speaker 28: slept with a Prince of England, and just making all

1339
01:08:26,160 --> 01:08:31,639
Speaker 28: of these wild, headline grabbing, sensational claims that they didn't

1340
01:08:31,640 --> 01:08:33,720
Speaker 28: want to fact check it. They didn't want to fact

1341
01:08:33,840 --> 01:08:35,800
Speaker 28: check any of it. So, if you want to look

1342
01:08:35,800 --> 01:08:39,000
Speaker 28: at the villains in this story, it is Virginia, it's

1343
01:08:39,080 --> 01:08:42,080
Speaker 28: Hailey Robson and a couple of others. So if I

1344
01:08:42,439 --> 01:08:45,599
Speaker 28: am Virginia's ex partner who I interviewed, and he quite

1345
01:08:46,080 --> 01:08:48,680
Speaker 28: casually just talks about how he went out of his

1346
01:08:48,800 --> 01:08:54,040
Speaker 28: way to find schoolgirls and girls to recruit because he thought, well,

1347
01:08:54,080 --> 01:08:57,240
Speaker 28: that's an extra two hundred dollars and there's no shame there.

1348
01:08:57,560 --> 01:08:59,960
Speaker 28: The police know about it. He's admitted it on record

1349
01:09:00,640 --> 01:09:05,040
Speaker 28: to me and also in his affidavids, know his depositions,

1350
01:09:05,439 --> 01:09:09,000
Speaker 28: and yet he's never been prosecuted. Virginia has been been

1351
01:09:09,120 --> 01:09:12,719
Speaker 28: acknowledged with fool proof and has admitted that she recruited

1352
01:09:13,360 --> 01:09:17,040
Speaker 28: schoolgirls while she herself was an adult, but they refused

1353
01:09:17,200 --> 01:09:20,960
Speaker 28: to prosecute her. The police wanted to prosecute Hailey Robson,

1354
01:09:21,280 --> 01:09:23,560
Speaker 28: but then it went higher up and they decided to

1355
01:09:23,640 --> 01:09:27,000
Speaker 28: drop it and only go after Epstein. And now Epstein

1356
01:09:27,400 --> 01:09:29,599
Speaker 28: did take a lie detective test. The police were quite

1357
01:09:30,040 --> 01:09:32,599
Speaker 28: annoyed because the result came back that he was telling

1358
01:09:32,640 --> 01:09:34,320
Speaker 28: the truth, that he didn't know that they were under age.

1359
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Speaker 28: Fast forward ten years or so, and suddenly you've got

1360
01:09:39,479 --> 01:09:42,720
Speaker 28: all these lawsuits coming in. You've got journalists who want

1361
01:09:42,760 --> 01:09:45,400
Speaker 28: to write stories because it's making them a lot of money.

1362
01:09:46,000 --> 01:09:50,240
Speaker 28: And you've got lawyers who want these articles and headlines

1363
01:09:50,640 --> 01:09:52,840
Speaker 28: out there because it's making them a lot of money.

1364
01:09:53,120 --> 01:09:56,040
Speaker 28: They've made over one hundred millions so far just the

1365
01:09:56,120 --> 01:09:59,720
Speaker 28: lawyers alone. Because what they were doing the lawyers, and

1366
01:09:59,800 --> 01:10:03,160
Speaker 28: this is well documented, they would get an accusation, they

1367
01:10:03,200 --> 01:10:06,519
Speaker 28: would approach the person who was accused, and then they

1368
01:10:06,560 --> 01:10:10,519
Speaker 28: would try to say, if you don't want this going

1369
01:10:10,560 --> 01:10:12,880
Speaker 28: into the press, don't want to be smeared, pay up.

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Speaker 28: And that's well documented. There are emails in the Epstein

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Speaker 28: files of the lawyers discussing this, and they've even talked

1372
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Speaker 28: about how they can first represent the accusers and then

1373
01:10:24,400 --> 01:10:27,880
Speaker 28: represent the accused and make sure that they keep these

1374
01:10:27,960 --> 01:10:31,240
Speaker 28: stories out of the headlines. I've listened to a secret

1375
01:10:31,320 --> 01:10:36,320
Speaker 28: recording taken by Alan Dershowitz where David Boyce, who represented Virginia,

1376
01:10:36,600 --> 01:10:39,880
Speaker 28: admitted to him that he knew that Virginia was wrong,

1377
01:10:40,080 --> 01:10:43,680
Speaker 28: in his words, wrong, completely wrong to accuse him. But

1378
01:10:44,240 --> 01:10:47,160
Speaker 28: he said, if you pay up, find some in his words,

1379
01:10:47,360 --> 01:10:51,519
Speaker 28: Jewish lawyers, some rabbis, those were his words, pay up

1380
01:10:51,560 --> 01:10:54,400
Speaker 28: and this will go away. Now that's blackmail, it's extortion,

1381
01:10:55,200 --> 01:10:57,760
Speaker 28: and they would use the press, weaponize the press. With

1382
01:10:57,960 --> 01:11:04,439
Speaker 28: Prince Andrew that catapulted the story back into the headline

1383
01:11:04,479 --> 01:11:05,280
Speaker 28: news across the world.

1384
01:11:05,400 --> 01:11:06,760
Speaker 1: I can say you had I.

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Speaker 4: Want to come in there. You just mentioned David Boyce.

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01:11:08,640 --> 01:11:10,120
Speaker 12: That's not going to be a name most people are

1387
01:11:10,200 --> 01:11:13,080
Speaker 12: familiar with, but that is a superstar lawyer.

1388
01:11:13,160 --> 01:11:15,080
Speaker 4: He's been involved in, among other things, he.

1389
01:11:15,160 --> 01:11:19,320
Speaker 12: Represented Theirranos, which was that blood analysis company that was

1390
01:11:19,479 --> 01:11:23,599
Speaker 12: a huge scam. He's represented Harvey Weinstein, so he's certainly

1391
01:11:23,720 --> 01:11:29,200
Speaker 12: not deeply motivated. I would say, by you know protecting victims. Necessarily,

1392
01:11:29,240 --> 01:11:30,120
Speaker 12: he can play both.

1393
01:11:30,000 --> 01:11:30,479
Speaker 1: Sides of that.

1394
01:11:31,080 --> 01:11:33,439
Speaker 4: He represented Al Gore in Bush v.

1395
01:11:33,560 --> 01:11:36,040
Speaker 12: Gore, Like this is a celebrity guy who's certainly been

1396
01:11:36,120 --> 01:11:39,560
Speaker 12: involved in some high profile and frankly he's worked for

1397
01:11:39,640 --> 01:11:42,439
Speaker 12: some sinister actors, as we know with theirano's and so

1398
01:11:42,520 --> 01:11:45,400
Speaker 12: it'd be entirely believable for him to be a sinister

1399
01:11:45,520 --> 01:11:46,720
Speaker 12: actor in this case as well.

1400
01:11:47,360 --> 01:11:50,640
Speaker 28: And in the Fharenough's case, he was found him and

1401
01:11:50,720 --> 01:11:55,439
Speaker 28: his team to have intimidated the whistleblowers. He in this instance,

1402
01:11:55,640 --> 01:11:58,840
Speaker 28: what his MO seems to have been is to So

1403
01:11:59,160 --> 01:12:02,200
Speaker 28: let's take the Prince Andrew case, the allegations as an example,

1404
01:12:02,640 --> 01:12:06,559
Speaker 28: he knows that they're not true. Virginia had originally claimed

1405
01:12:06,680 --> 01:12:09,080
Speaker 28: that she didn't sleep with Prince Andrew at all. Then

1406
01:12:09,160 --> 01:12:11,600
Speaker 28: she claimed that she had sex with Prince Andrew in

1407
01:12:11,640 --> 01:12:14,799
Speaker 28: New Mexico. She wrote three pages going as Laura in Details,

1408
01:12:14,840 --> 01:12:17,920
Speaker 28: saying they went horseback riding together, had sex in the

1409
01:12:17,960 --> 01:12:21,519
Speaker 28: bathroom with Champagne. Then under rope, she admitted she'd never happened,

1410
01:12:21,800 --> 01:12:24,439
Speaker 28: she'd never been to New Mexico Prince Andrew. Then she

1411
01:12:24,640 --> 01:12:26,760
Speaker 28: changed it to that she'd had an orgy with Prince

1412
01:12:26,800 --> 01:12:28,680
Speaker 28: Andrew on the island. But then it was shown to

1413
01:12:28,760 --> 01:12:31,560
Speaker 28: her that she'd already written about this orgy and it

1414
01:12:31,640 --> 01:12:34,400
Speaker 28: was actually she claimed with Jean lu Brunell, not with

1415
01:12:34,560 --> 01:12:37,960
Speaker 28: Prince Andrew. But they knew this, the lawyers, and yet

1416
01:12:38,439 --> 01:12:40,680
Speaker 28: they don't want to drop that. The journalists want to

1417
01:12:40,720 --> 01:12:44,400
Speaker 28: keep it going because they're making money from producing clickbait,

1418
01:12:44,680 --> 01:12:46,320
Speaker 28: and the lawyers want to get money from it.

1419
01:12:46,800 --> 01:12:46,960
Speaker 11: Now.

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01:12:47,200 --> 01:12:49,240
Speaker 28: Prince Andrew, when it comes to him as well, what

1421
01:12:49,479 --> 01:12:52,360
Speaker 28: David Boyce would do is and he said this during

1422
01:12:52,560 --> 01:12:54,960
Speaker 28: an interview with Piers Morgan, if he doesn't set her

1423
01:12:55,000 --> 01:12:57,120
Speaker 28: out of court, if he doesn't pay up, I will

1424
01:12:57,200 --> 01:13:00,960
Speaker 28: depose Megan Markle. I'll depose his daughters, depose all of

1425
01:13:01,000 --> 01:13:04,160
Speaker 28: his family. Knowing that that can't happen because the royal

1426
01:13:04,160 --> 01:13:06,479
Speaker 28: family wouldn't allow it to happen. The judge at the

1427
01:13:06,520 --> 01:13:10,120
Speaker 28: same time refused to allow him to admit admit submit

1428
01:13:10,240 --> 01:13:14,000
Speaker 28: certain evidence from proving that Virginia had made false allegations

1429
01:13:14,000 --> 01:13:18,520
Speaker 28: against him, and the lawyers had been working with politicians

1430
01:13:18,600 --> 01:13:21,160
Speaker 28: even now to get all of this together.

1431
01:13:21,680 --> 01:13:23,439
Speaker 4: Jay, we've got to take another quick break here, but

1432
01:13:23,479 --> 01:13:26,120
Speaker 4: we're going to keep going after the break more j

1433
01:13:26,320 --> 01:13:42,200
Speaker 4: Beecher crazy stuff here. Jay, We've got so much to

1434
01:13:42,240 --> 01:13:44,479
Speaker 4: get to here. I want to make sure we're moving quickly,

1435
01:13:45,200 --> 01:13:47,840
Speaker 4: so we'll have a thousand questions for you.

1436
01:13:48,840 --> 01:13:50,280
Speaker 1: Did And we've got this.

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01:13:51,000 --> 01:13:54,800
Speaker 4: We've got boys with Guffrey here a picture that we

1438
01:13:54,840 --> 01:13:57,120
Speaker 4: could throw up here, which so it's just to kind

1439
01:13:57,160 --> 01:14:00,479
Speaker 4: of add a visual element to this, how everybody can

1440
01:14:00,560 --> 01:14:00,880
Speaker 4: see that.

1441
01:14:02,840 --> 01:14:03,000
Speaker 1: Did.

1442
01:14:03,120 --> 01:14:05,320
Speaker 4: Do you believe that Virginia committed suicide? I know her

1443
01:14:05,439 --> 01:14:07,240
Speaker 4: dad has said that he doesn't think that.

1444
01:14:07,880 --> 01:14:08,400
Speaker 6: That was the case.

1445
01:14:09,560 --> 01:14:11,840
Speaker 28: You just never know what to believe anymore with this,

1446
01:14:12,080 --> 01:14:15,800
Speaker 28: if I'm honest. So you've got she I think she

1447
01:14:16,120 --> 01:14:18,240
Speaker 28: likely did. The reason that I believe that is because

1448
01:14:18,400 --> 01:14:21,559
Speaker 28: her web of lies was so she'd stacked a lie

1449
01:14:21,640 --> 01:14:23,640
Speaker 28: upon a lie upon a lie, and I think it

1450
01:14:23,720 --> 01:14:27,040
Speaker 28: was slowly beginning to collapse because she was about to

1451
01:14:27,200 --> 01:14:29,600
Speaker 28: be deposed for the very first time, she was going

1452
01:14:29,680 --> 01:14:32,519
Speaker 28: to have her very first court appearance, because she was

1453
01:14:32,600 --> 01:14:35,559
Speaker 28: being sued by Rena Oho. I've interviewed quite a lot,

1454
01:14:35,720 --> 01:14:39,719
Speaker 28: and because she she'd made a false statement against Rena.

1455
01:14:40,400 --> 01:14:42,680
Speaker 28: And so where as she if you look into her

1456
01:14:42,760 --> 01:14:45,960
Speaker 28: past history, she's always settled out of court so with

1457
01:14:46,160 --> 01:14:50,080
Speaker 28: Alan Dershowitz, she settled out of court, not financially, but

1458
01:14:50,200 --> 01:14:54,040
Speaker 28: she admitted that she was mistaken and accusing me. Now

1459
01:14:54,080 --> 01:14:58,160
Speaker 28: she wasn't mistaken, she lied. But with Rena, she was

1460
01:14:58,320 --> 01:15:02,240
Speaker 28: trying and trying to prevent herself from being dragged into court.

1461
01:15:02,320 --> 01:15:05,479
Speaker 28: And the judge two weeks before she committed suicide had

1462
01:15:05,560 --> 01:15:08,679
Speaker 28: ruled that, no, whatever happens, you must come into court

1463
01:15:09,240 --> 01:15:14,240
Speaker 28: and testify. Now, while she's in the courtroom, the defense lawyers,

1464
01:15:14,720 --> 01:15:17,640
Speaker 28: so Rena Rose lawyers sorry, would have grilled her. And

1465
01:15:17,760 --> 01:15:20,599
Speaker 28: I know this for a fact because I helped them

1466
01:15:20,680 --> 01:15:23,880
Speaker 28: with certain information they were using. There's a photograph of

1467
01:15:23,920 --> 01:15:27,439
Speaker 28: Brinao leaving the courtroom with a two hundred page report

1468
01:15:27,520 --> 01:15:31,320
Speaker 28: that I did, just compiling all of Virginia's lives with

1469
01:15:31,479 --> 01:15:35,080
Speaker 28: the evidence. And so what they were prepared to do

1470
01:15:35,840 --> 01:15:38,599
Speaker 28: was to use that as an opportunity to finally under

1471
01:15:38,680 --> 01:15:42,840
Speaker 28: over force Virginia to admit the truth. And she would

1472
01:15:42,840 --> 01:15:45,240
Speaker 28: have been showed with this evidence, and she would have

1473
01:15:45,520 --> 01:15:47,120
Speaker 28: been confronted with it, and now it would have been

1474
01:15:47,479 --> 01:15:50,320
Speaker 28: covered by the newspapers. You also, at the same time,

1475
01:15:50,640 --> 01:15:55,960
Speaker 28: had her marriage breakdown, her kids were taken away from her,

1476
01:15:56,000 --> 01:15:58,519
Speaker 28: which is very rare. You know, you don't often see

1477
01:15:59,040 --> 01:16:01,840
Speaker 28: children being taken away from the mother and the mother

1478
01:16:01,960 --> 01:16:05,280
Speaker 28: losing custody, so her life is sort of caving in.

1479
01:16:06,040 --> 01:16:10,679
Speaker 12: Yeah, it does seem that's a I think, a strong narrative,

1480
01:16:10,840 --> 01:16:14,160
Speaker 12: but so bigger picture, I think an issue I want

1481
01:16:14,240 --> 01:16:18,160
Speaker 12: us to talk about when people do push that idea

1482
01:16:18,400 --> 01:16:21,240
Speaker 12: that there's not as much here as people thought. It's

1483
01:16:21,320 --> 01:16:26,600
Speaker 12: kind of a more mundane guy who had relations with

1484
01:16:26,760 --> 01:16:29,320
Speaker 12: underage girls got caught, and then he also knew a

1485
01:16:29,320 --> 01:16:32,400
Speaker 12: lot of people, but there's not a bigger conspiracy or

1486
01:16:32,439 --> 01:16:35,920
Speaker 12: bigger behind the scenes thing. One thing people fixate on

1487
01:16:36,000 --> 01:16:39,360
Speaker 12: a lot is just Jeffrey Epstein's wealth. Even the Vice

1488
01:16:39,400 --> 01:16:41,720
Speaker 12: president the other day was saying it should be investigated

1489
01:16:41,960 --> 01:16:45,400
Speaker 12: how he became so wealthy, because that seems very mysterious

1490
01:16:45,439 --> 01:16:47,800
Speaker 12: to people, and that it must have some sort of

1491
01:16:48,120 --> 01:16:49,120
Speaker 12: dark explanation.

1492
01:16:50,080 --> 01:16:52,800
Speaker 4: Do you have an explanation for that that would be satisfactory?

1493
01:16:53,120 --> 01:16:57,160
Speaker 12: How did Jeffrey Epstein become this super rich and connected

1494
01:16:57,200 --> 01:16:57,760
Speaker 12: person like that?

1495
01:16:58,479 --> 01:17:00,680
Speaker 28: Yeah, because though I had the exact same force, How

1496
01:17:00,720 --> 01:17:02,960
Speaker 28: the hell is a mathematician, like just a low level

1497
01:17:03,000 --> 01:17:06,200
Speaker 28: maths teacher without any degree become so wealthy. It was

1498
01:17:06,200 --> 01:17:09,160
Speaker 28: actually through fraud. A lot of it was through fraud.

1499
01:17:09,240 --> 01:17:11,800
Speaker 28: He was arrested in the I think it was the

1500
01:17:11,920 --> 01:17:15,560
Speaker 28: late eighties, very early nineties. He was involved in a

1501
01:17:15,960 --> 01:17:18,519
Speaker 28: he left bear Sterns. So whilst he was a teacher,

1502
01:17:18,680 --> 01:17:22,280
Speaker 28: he'd been poached by one of his student's father who

1503
01:17:22,479 --> 01:17:25,280
Speaker 28: was high up in bear Sterns and saw that he

1504
01:17:25,400 --> 01:17:27,640
Speaker 28: was very good with numbers, got him on board. He

1505
01:17:27,720 --> 01:17:30,200
Speaker 28: made quite a lot of money there. But then he

1506
01:17:30,320 --> 01:17:33,240
Speaker 28: went and left and made his own company with a partner.

1507
01:17:33,560 --> 01:17:36,320
Speaker 28: And now both of them were arrested because they said

1508
01:17:36,320 --> 01:17:38,640
Speaker 28: it was a pyramid scheme and they were engaged in

1509
01:17:38,680 --> 01:17:41,560
Speaker 28: fraudulent transactions, and Jeffrey Epsy made a hell of a

1510
01:17:41,640 --> 01:17:44,120
Speaker 28: lot of many millions from that. His partner was sent

1511
01:17:44,240 --> 01:17:48,680
Speaker 28: to prison, and Jeffrey Epstein, for whatever reason, managed to

1512
01:17:48,760 --> 01:17:51,000
Speaker 28: get out of it. They didn't have enough evidence. Now,

1513
01:17:51,080 --> 01:17:55,360
Speaker 28: his partner squealed like a pig and said Jeffrey was

1514
01:17:55,479 --> 01:17:57,280
Speaker 28: just as guilty as I am. You know, he was

1515
01:17:57,479 --> 01:17:59,920
Speaker 28: just as guilty as this, but he got away with it.

1516
01:18:00,439 --> 01:18:03,040
Speaker 28: Then he got as a client for his next company,

1517
01:18:03,320 --> 01:18:06,320
Speaker 28: Leslie Wexner, and Leslie gave him the keys to the

1518
01:18:06,439 --> 01:18:11,080
Speaker 28: Kingdom because he was helping people to avoid paying taxes,

1519
01:18:11,320 --> 01:18:15,280
Speaker 28: and he did that by setting up offshore offshore companies

1520
01:18:15,360 --> 01:18:18,200
Speaker 28: and shell companies in the US Virgin Islands. And so

1521
01:18:18,360 --> 01:18:21,360
Speaker 28: Leslie Wexner saw, Wow, this guy is good. He's running

1522
01:18:21,400 --> 01:18:23,280
Speaker 28: my company as well. He's saving me a hell of

1523
01:18:23,280 --> 01:18:25,479
Speaker 28: a lot of money. I'm going to sign in power

1524
01:18:25,479 --> 01:18:27,760
Speaker 28: of attorney and he did that. But then later on

1525
01:18:27,880 --> 01:18:31,360
Speaker 28: it turned out that Epstein had stolen tens of millions

1526
01:18:31,560 --> 01:18:36,679
Speaker 28: of dollars from Leslie Wexner, enough actually just just about

1527
01:18:37,400 --> 01:18:40,479
Speaker 28: twenty five percent a quarter of the money that he

1528
01:18:40,560 --> 01:18:44,559
Speaker 28: stole from Wexner was enough for him to buy his island.

1529
01:18:44,960 --> 01:18:48,080
Speaker 28: And wow, with more money that he'd stolen, he bought

1530
01:18:48,120 --> 01:18:51,240
Speaker 28: his place in France, his ranch, and he'd already got

1531
01:18:51,320 --> 01:18:54,519
Speaker 28: the house in New York from Leslie Wexner. And then

1532
01:18:54,560 --> 01:18:57,280
Speaker 28: also Leslie Wexner gave him sort of this era aura

1533
01:18:57,320 --> 01:18:59,639
Speaker 28: of credibility. You know, he's representing Wexner.

1534
01:19:00,720 --> 01:19:04,200
Speaker 4: Jay, these darn breaks, we're gonna hold that thought. We'll

1535
01:19:04,240 --> 01:19:06,360
Speaker 4: be back on the other side one second.

1536
01:19:14,000 --> 01:19:18,000
Speaker 8: Relentless in spirit. You're listening to the Charlie Kirk Show.

1537
01:19:18,640 --> 01:19:23,000
Speaker 4: All right, welcome back, everybody, so you're basically laying out

1538
01:19:23,040 --> 01:19:26,960
Speaker 4: a case Jay that he was good at one thing financially,

1539
01:19:27,720 --> 01:19:30,320
Speaker 4: and that was shielding people from tax liabilities.

1540
01:19:30,479 --> 01:19:33,000
Speaker 1: He was a tax evader essentially.

1541
01:19:33,200 --> 01:19:34,599
Speaker 4: Yeah, not even say.

1542
01:19:34,640 --> 01:19:38,520
Speaker 12: Things, a tax evader and also kind of a consonance

1543
01:19:38,560 --> 01:19:40,560
Speaker 12: game man, Like he just he wormed his way in

1544
01:19:40,720 --> 01:19:44,960
Speaker 12: with Wexner, and maybe he did valid work for the

1545
01:19:45,000 --> 01:19:46,920
Speaker 12: first couple of years, and after that it just seems

1546
01:19:46,960 --> 01:19:48,960
Speaker 12: he was soaking him. You mentioned he got that place

1547
01:19:49,000 --> 01:19:50,920
Speaker 12: from him. He basically got it for what a dollar?

1548
01:19:51,000 --> 01:19:53,920
Speaker 12: He took a free twenty million dollar home in New

1549
01:19:54,000 --> 01:19:54,800
Speaker 12: York off of him.

1550
01:19:55,840 --> 01:19:57,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. You know, he was rewarded.

1551
01:19:58,560 --> 01:20:02,200
Speaker 28: He was saying this great genius, sort of some asset.

1552
01:20:02,560 --> 01:20:06,240
Speaker 28: I think he exaggerated himself to some extent. He'd lied

1553
01:20:06,280 --> 01:20:10,520
Speaker 28: on his CB to get to bear Stearns. But regardless,

1554
01:20:10,640 --> 01:20:13,839
Speaker 28: he knew how to get rich people to pay less taxes,

1555
01:20:14,120 --> 01:20:16,559
Speaker 28: and that was making those shell companies in the US

1556
01:20:16,680 --> 01:20:20,200
Speaker 28: Virgin Islands, his island. People think that he purchased this

1557
01:20:20,760 --> 01:20:24,040
Speaker 28: to have secrecy and to you know, run some sort

1558
01:20:24,040 --> 01:20:24,840
Speaker 28: of strange operation.

1559
01:20:25,000 --> 01:20:25,840
Speaker 6: Well no, it was.

1560
01:20:26,080 --> 01:20:29,720
Speaker 28: Originally just for the fact that if you're in the

1561
01:20:29,840 --> 01:20:33,280
Speaker 28: US Virgin islands, you get certain tax exemptions, you'll you

1562
01:20:33,880 --> 01:20:36,719
Speaker 28: pay so much less tax than you would in the US.

1563
01:20:37,160 --> 01:20:39,400
Speaker 28: So he set up all of these companies and then

1564
01:20:39,640 --> 01:20:44,559
Speaker 28: he was approached by Chomsky, by Woody Allen. He helped

1565
01:20:44,560 --> 01:20:48,160
Speaker 28: Woody Allen, he helped Leon Black. He had all of

1566
01:20:48,240 --> 01:20:51,839
Speaker 28: these different people who he would help pay less taxes

1567
01:20:52,200 --> 01:20:55,120
Speaker 28: by they would filter their money into the US Virgin Islands,

1568
01:20:55,160 --> 01:20:58,719
Speaker 28: into his shell companies, and then obviously they avoided paying

1569
01:20:58,760 --> 01:21:01,160
Speaker 28: millions and millions of taxes. They're going to like him.

1570
01:21:01,520 --> 01:21:04,120
Speaker 28: Then he built up all of these connections through through

1571
01:21:04,240 --> 01:21:08,280
Speaker 28: that and through political donations. His political donations were not

1572
01:21:08,400 --> 01:21:12,320
Speaker 28: really because he believed in the politics that he was supporting.

1573
01:21:12,680 --> 01:21:17,080
Speaker 28: It was because he coveted you know, famous names and

1574
01:21:17,160 --> 01:21:20,120
Speaker 28: famous spaces, because that gave him more credibility. That gave

1575
01:21:20,200 --> 01:21:22,840
Speaker 28: him more access, and having that access and that ring

1576
01:21:22,880 --> 01:21:25,080
Speaker 28: of circles attracts more people to him.

1577
01:21:25,360 --> 01:21:27,960
Speaker 4: Jay I got So let me just challenge the premise

1578
01:21:28,000 --> 01:21:31,360
Speaker 4: here though, I mean, is there any indication that he

1579
01:21:31,560 --> 01:21:33,599
Speaker 4: was a Masade agent, that he was working with CIA,

1580
01:21:33,680 --> 01:21:36,720
Speaker 4: because you know, you say he didn't get arrested, but

1581
01:21:36,840 --> 01:21:40,400
Speaker 4: his partner did, okay with somebody protecting him, was you know,

1582
01:21:40,560 --> 01:21:44,760
Speaker 4: then he's connected with Ehud Barak later on, you know,

1583
01:21:45,479 --> 01:21:48,120
Speaker 4: you just you sort of start wondering, like why is

1584
01:21:48,160 --> 01:21:52,160
Speaker 4: this charmed man so charmed? And does he have a handler?

1585
01:21:52,240 --> 01:21:55,679
Speaker 4: Does he have people that are someone looking out for him? Yeah,

1586
01:21:55,720 --> 01:21:58,800
Speaker 4: that's how he gets out of things. It did you know,

1587
01:21:59,280 --> 01:22:02,479
Speaker 4: Leslie West is a obviously a Jewish American? Was there

1588
01:22:02,800 --> 01:22:05,280
Speaker 4: was there a connection there that he was you know,

1589
01:22:05,479 --> 01:22:07,719
Speaker 4: was he blackmail? Did he blackmail Wexner?

1590
01:22:07,840 --> 01:22:07,880
Speaker 2: What?

1591
01:22:08,040 --> 01:22:11,759
Speaker 4: What is Is there any indication because this some sometimes

1592
01:22:11,840 --> 01:22:13,080
Speaker 4: it feels a little too convenient.

1593
01:22:14,200 --> 01:22:14,800
Speaker 28: I know what you mean.

1594
01:22:14,880 --> 01:22:15,559
Speaker 6: No, I know what you mean.

1595
01:22:15,640 --> 01:22:17,160
Speaker 28: It's sort of like this is the luckiest guy in

1596
01:22:17,200 --> 01:22:19,880
Speaker 28: the world, right, you know, gone from being a humble

1597
01:22:19,960 --> 01:22:24,040
Speaker 28: mass teacher. But there is no evidence that he was

1598
01:22:24,160 --> 01:22:28,559
Speaker 28: involved with Mossad, that he was in intelligence. His former

1599
01:22:28,640 --> 01:22:31,040
Speaker 28: girlfriend used to joke that, you know, some he's so

1600
01:22:31,160 --> 01:22:33,280
Speaker 28: quiet and mysterious that he must be in this ci

1601
01:22:33,479 --> 01:22:36,080
Speaker 28: A and then it's sort of snowball from there. But

1602
01:22:36,600 --> 01:22:39,479
Speaker 28: he did help when so he doesn't need to be

1603
01:22:39,520 --> 01:22:42,680
Speaker 28: a member of an agent to influence world politics and

1604
01:22:42,920 --> 01:22:46,400
Speaker 28: influence you know, some of the most influential people in

1605
01:22:46,479 --> 01:22:49,240
Speaker 28: the world, because we can see that in his email exchanges.

1606
01:22:49,320 --> 01:22:53,280
Speaker 28: He's being contacted by some of the most powerful leaders

1607
01:22:53,680 --> 01:22:56,519
Speaker 28: asking him for advice. But that tends to be more

1608
01:22:56,680 --> 01:22:59,360
Speaker 28: if you read between the lines of emails. It's more

1609
01:22:59,520 --> 01:23:03,160
Speaker 28: the fact of his connections, and they're always asking him,

1610
01:23:03,720 --> 01:23:06,120
Speaker 28: can you connect me with this person? So one of them,

1611
01:23:06,160 --> 01:23:09,240
Speaker 28: I think it was the Sultan of Wherever, asked him

1612
01:23:09,600 --> 01:23:11,479
Speaker 28: how do I talk to Donald Trump? That's because he

1613
01:23:11,680 --> 01:23:14,360
Speaker 28: was associated with Donald Trump. Another one asks them for

1614
01:23:14,439 --> 01:23:19,439
Speaker 28: an introduction with Clinton, and they are talking about what

1615
01:23:19,600 --> 01:23:23,920
Speaker 28: we would deem intelligence. He was definitely that the Russia

1616
01:23:23,960 --> 01:23:28,240
Speaker 28: angle needs more explanation and more investigation, and you will

1617
01:23:28,360 --> 01:23:30,720
Speaker 28: start to see that over the coming weeks. You know,

1618
01:23:30,880 --> 01:23:35,439
Speaker 28: is in any involvement with Russia. But I have not

1619
01:23:35,640 --> 01:23:39,920
Speaker 28: found any genuine evidence to prove that he was a

1620
01:23:40,000 --> 01:23:43,720
Speaker 28: member of Mossad. And when Jeffrey Epstein was asked, so

1621
01:23:43,880 --> 01:23:48,080
Speaker 28: he was asked, let's think we talk about him escaping

1622
01:23:48,680 --> 01:23:52,719
Speaker 28: from sort of dodging one conviction early on for fraud,

1623
01:23:53,120 --> 01:23:57,640
Speaker 28: but he didn't. He didn't escape two major convictions, so

1624
01:23:58,000 --> 01:24:00,479
Speaker 28: the first one being obviously when he was rested in

1625
01:24:00,600 --> 01:24:04,560
Speaker 28: I think two thousand and seven, and for sleeping with

1626
01:24:04,640 --> 01:24:07,960
Speaker 28: an underage girl. And he was asked during that time

1627
01:24:08,040 --> 01:24:11,920
Speaker 28: by Professor Durschwitz, do you know are you a member

1628
01:24:11,920 --> 01:24:14,680
Speaker 28: of any intelligence thing? Do you have anyone who can

1629
01:24:14,720 --> 01:24:18,120
Speaker 28: shut this thing down? And he didn't. He just he said,

1630
01:24:18,520 --> 01:24:20,160
Speaker 28: I don't. I'm not likely. You know, I don't have

1631
01:24:20,240 --> 01:24:22,880
Speaker 28: any of those connections. And they would have exploited that,

1632
01:24:22,920 --> 01:24:25,120
Speaker 28: they would have shut that down. And then years later,

1633
01:24:25,920 --> 01:24:28,160
Speaker 28: again no one came to his defense, no one came

1634
01:24:28,200 --> 01:24:30,200
Speaker 28: to help him. If he had all of this information

1635
01:24:30,320 --> 01:24:33,479
Speaker 28: to blackmail people, he wasn't able to pull any strings.

1636
01:24:33,600 --> 01:24:36,599
Speaker 1: But Jay just again to keep pressing the point.

1637
01:24:36,680 --> 01:24:41,880
Speaker 4: So you spoke with Jeffrey Eperstein's brother, You've interviewed him.

1638
01:24:42,280 --> 01:24:44,920
Speaker 1: He does not believe Jeffrey committed suicide.

1639
01:24:46,160 --> 01:24:48,479
Speaker 4: I guess the question would be, what do you believe

1640
01:24:48,680 --> 01:24:53,000
Speaker 4: after speaking with Jeffrey Epstein's brother, And if he didn't

1641
01:24:53,040 --> 01:24:56,439
Speaker 4: commit suicide, then it's apparent that there would be forces

1642
01:24:56,479 --> 01:24:57,479
Speaker 4: that wanted him dead.

1643
01:24:58,800 --> 01:25:02,320
Speaker 28: Yeah, So when this is coming out, there are a

1644
01:25:02,360 --> 01:25:05,800
Speaker 28: hell of a lot of people who are associated with them. Now,

1645
01:25:06,280 --> 01:25:09,479
Speaker 28: some of the though I say some of these powerful

1646
01:25:09,560 --> 01:25:13,080
Speaker 28: people you know, have done nothing wrong, they are still

1647
01:25:13,280 --> 01:25:16,960
Speaker 28: likely some of them may have slept with some of

1648
01:25:17,080 --> 01:25:19,360
Speaker 28: the women, because you've got to remember that ninety nin

1649
01:25:19,360 --> 01:25:21,439
Speaker 28: percent of the women that Jeffrey Epstein had were over

1650
01:25:21,680 --> 01:25:24,679
Speaker 28: the leagual edge. Some of them are registered escorts. They're

1651
01:25:24,880 --> 01:25:27,599
Speaker 28: fully documented as being escorts at the time. We don't

1652
01:25:27,640 --> 01:25:30,120
Speaker 28: know if if some of them had slept with them.

1653
01:25:30,120 --> 01:25:33,960
Speaker 28: We just don't know. There's no way of telling. But

1654
01:25:34,400 --> 01:25:36,800
Speaker 28: with regards to his death, going back to his death,

1655
01:25:37,000 --> 01:25:40,200
Speaker 28: I believe that there are some It still needs a

1656
01:25:40,320 --> 01:25:43,600
Speaker 28: proper investigation, and that is for my next book. I

1657
01:25:43,760 --> 01:25:47,040
Speaker 28: have been investigating the death and a few things that

1658
01:25:47,120 --> 01:25:49,360
Speaker 28: I can't go into right now, to be honest, but

1659
01:25:49,400 --> 01:25:54,600
Speaker 28: they there are too many unanswered questions, too many coincidences

1660
01:25:54,720 --> 01:25:58,200
Speaker 28: from that night, his final night. We forget that there

1661
01:25:58,280 --> 01:26:01,559
Speaker 28: was an original incident where Jeffrey Epstein was found. There

1662
01:26:01,640 --> 01:26:04,240
Speaker 28: was a commotion in his cell. Suddenly he wakes up,

1663
01:26:04,560 --> 01:26:07,760
Speaker 28: Suddenly they burst open the door. They find his cell mate.

1664
01:26:07,880 --> 01:26:10,240
Speaker 28: Right so, they that the cell mate who they put

1665
01:26:10,360 --> 01:26:13,720
Speaker 28: him in with, Nick claims his innocent, etc. I'm not

1666
01:26:13,760 --> 01:26:16,599
Speaker 28: going to touch on that right now, but why did

1667
01:26:16,640 --> 01:26:20,439
Speaker 28: they put him in with somebody who is supposed to

1668
01:26:20,720 --> 01:26:24,080
Speaker 28: have committed multiple burders and yet they chose him as

1669
01:26:24,120 --> 01:26:27,160
Speaker 28: a safe and non aggressive that's the term they used.

1670
01:26:27,479 --> 01:26:29,880
Speaker 28: This is a non aggressive, safe cell mate. And on

1671
01:26:30,000 --> 01:26:35,760
Speaker 28: this incident, the guards, the prison officers burst into the cell.

1672
01:26:36,280 --> 01:26:39,000
Speaker 28: Jeffrey's snoring, the noose has been taken off of him,

1673
01:26:39,640 --> 01:26:41,760
Speaker 28: and he's gone unconscious. The first thing he says when

1674
01:26:41,760 --> 01:26:44,720
Speaker 28: he wakes up is Nick tried to kill me. His

1675
01:26:44,840 --> 01:26:46,000
Speaker 28: cell mate tried to kill him.

1676
01:26:46,920 --> 01:26:47,400
Speaker 6: Excuse me.

1677
01:26:47,479 --> 01:26:50,320
Speaker 28: Now, he went back on that later on, so I'm confused.

1678
01:26:50,360 --> 01:26:52,880
Speaker 28: But they, you know, they think he might have been

1679
01:26:52,920 --> 01:26:55,800
Speaker 28: frightened into talking about that, but he had mentioned that

1680
01:26:55,960 --> 01:27:00,559
Speaker 28: before that people were going to harm him. So then

1681
01:27:00,600 --> 01:27:03,120
Speaker 28: you've got the CCTV cameras not working. At the same time,

1682
01:27:03,200 --> 01:27:07,000
Speaker 28: you've got the prison guards falling asleep on the watch. Conveniently,

1683
01:27:07,360 --> 01:27:11,280
Speaker 28: you've got one who allegendly claims that a prisoner, potentially Epstein,

1684
01:27:11,840 --> 01:27:17,120
Speaker 28: was shipped out shortly before. Now that needs exploring properly

1685
01:27:17,160 --> 01:27:19,240
Speaker 28: before it's completely debunked or proven.

1686
01:27:19,680 --> 01:27:20,120
Speaker 6: You never know.

1687
01:27:20,840 --> 01:27:23,719
Speaker 28: But Jeffrey Epstein is a man who had the means

1688
01:27:24,560 --> 01:27:28,560
Speaker 28: to organize an escape if he wanted to. But I

1689
01:27:28,640 --> 01:27:32,200
Speaker 28: don't believe that happened. I believe that he died. We

1690
01:27:32,400 --> 01:27:34,840
Speaker 28: just don't know if it was suicide or not. There

1691
01:27:34,880 --> 01:27:38,360
Speaker 28: are multiple reasons why we shouldn't close the book as

1692
01:27:38,640 --> 01:27:41,080
Speaker 28: case solved on the death of Jeffrey Epstein.

1693
01:27:42,400 --> 01:27:44,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that if people wanted him dead, I mean,

1694
01:27:44,760 --> 01:27:46,640
Speaker 4: maybe it was just they were embarrassed. Maybe they did

1695
01:27:46,720 --> 01:27:49,040
Speaker 4: sleep with some of these underage girls that were recruited

1696
01:27:49,080 --> 01:27:52,639
Speaker 4: by Virginia. And I believe you said Haley if I'm

1697
01:27:52,680 --> 01:27:55,639
Speaker 4: not Wrappley Robinson, So okay.

1698
01:27:55,760 --> 01:27:57,719
Speaker 1: Question, So there's a lot of names that were mentioned.

1699
01:27:57,800 --> 01:27:59,800
Speaker 12: Sorry, I get we might have the same question, which

1700
01:27:59,840 --> 01:28:02,200
Speaker 12: is just there has been millions of documents that have

1701
01:28:02,320 --> 01:28:05,160
Speaker 12: come out, There is new stuff coming out, whatever it is,

1702
01:28:05,960 --> 01:28:09,280
Speaker 12: have we learned anything from it? And is anyone Is

1703
01:28:09,320 --> 01:28:12,240
Speaker 12: there anyone who actually might be criminally implicated, even if

1704
01:28:12,280 --> 01:28:14,400
Speaker 12: it's just on the level of what Epstein himself was.

1705
01:28:15,920 --> 01:28:18,120
Speaker 28: Yeah, No, You've got sort of things that you could

1706
01:28:18,160 --> 01:28:20,800
Speaker 28: highlight as fraud potentially fraudulent that have been raised in

1707
01:28:20,840 --> 01:28:23,679
Speaker 28: the documents. But I think the people who so let's

1708
01:28:23,720 --> 01:28:27,120
Speaker 28: look at why these were released, and again it goes

1709
01:28:27,320 --> 01:28:31,320
Speaker 28: for political and financials. Political and financially motivated. You had

1710
01:28:31,640 --> 01:28:34,160
Speaker 28: the lawyers who need this to be released because they

1711
01:28:34,560 --> 01:28:39,320
Speaker 28: still have ongoing lawsuits. They've got them against institutions like

1712
01:28:39,439 --> 01:28:41,880
Speaker 28: banks that the last one paid out over one hundred

1713
01:28:41,920 --> 01:28:44,760
Speaker 28: million dollars and they get up to forty percent of

1714
01:28:44,800 --> 01:28:47,360
Speaker 28: the lawyers. So it's good for them to keep this

1715
01:28:47,920 --> 01:28:52,479
Speaker 28: story alive and to keep these bankers and targets trembling.

1716
01:28:53,040 --> 01:28:55,600
Speaker 28: And then of course you have the House Democrats, and

1717
01:28:56,080 --> 01:28:58,280
Speaker 28: I'm sorry, but they do not give a damn about

1718
01:28:58,720 --> 01:29:02,639
Speaker 28: justice or victim or They only care about going after

1719
01:29:02,720 --> 01:29:06,080
Speaker 28: Donald Trump. And yet nothing has been found in them.

1720
01:29:06,160 --> 01:29:09,160
Speaker 28: That's why they've been pushing for it. The lawyers, if

1721
01:29:09,240 --> 01:29:12,559
Speaker 28: you look into it, the David Boys, etc. Have admitted

1722
01:29:12,880 --> 01:29:16,080
Speaker 28: that they've been working with the House Democrats pro bono

1723
01:29:16,720 --> 01:29:20,400
Speaker 28: and they've been helping orchestrate this entire smear campaign. And

1724
01:29:20,520 --> 01:29:23,479
Speaker 28: yet what has been revealed is really disappointing for them

1725
01:29:23,880 --> 01:29:25,280
Speaker 28: because there isn't anything.

1726
01:29:25,760 --> 01:29:26,400
Speaker 6: Don't get me wrong.

1727
01:29:26,439 --> 01:29:29,800
Speaker 28: There are some fascinating things in there, some really interesting

1728
01:29:30,000 --> 01:29:33,800
Speaker 28: scandals and things that arise and connections that we didn't

1729
01:29:33,840 --> 01:29:36,400
Speaker 28: know about, but none of them are a league. What

1730
01:29:37,080 --> 01:29:41,400
Speaker 28: you're seeing is guilt by association. They're looking for photographs

1731
01:29:41,520 --> 01:29:44,840
Speaker 28: of and it's the way that they portray them. So

1732
01:29:45,240 --> 01:29:48,960
Speaker 28: they get the media to put out the headline a

1733
01:29:49,120 --> 01:29:53,360
Speaker 28: victim of Jeffrey Epstein was in the presence of Donald Trump.

1734
01:29:53,600 --> 01:29:57,280
Speaker 28: But then they admit intentionally they redapt the name of

1735
01:29:57,320 --> 01:29:59,479
Speaker 28: the victim, and yet we know the victim was Virginia

1736
01:29:59,479 --> 01:30:02,840
Speaker 28: Giffrey that Virginia defraid said, well, no, I met Donald Trump.

1737
01:30:02,920 --> 01:30:03,599
Speaker 6: He was a gentleman.

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Speaker 28: He did nothing wrong. So they're weaponizing the Epstein files.

1739
01:30:07,960 --> 01:30:10,080
Speaker 28: They want to use it to keep the story alive,

1740
01:30:10,479 --> 01:30:13,240
Speaker 28: to confuse the hell out of the public, and to

1741
01:30:13,400 --> 01:30:16,000
Speaker 28: make money. And that is what most of this is

1742
01:30:16,040 --> 01:30:19,799
Speaker 28: about making money. And from the politician side, it's about

1743
01:30:20,240 --> 01:30:22,840
Speaker 28: using this to keep the heat and the pressure on

1744
01:30:23,000 --> 01:30:26,920
Speaker 28: Donald Trump. And yet they are really disappointed because they've

1745
01:30:27,000 --> 01:30:30,439
Speaker 28: not been able to find anything explosive, and they've definitely

1746
01:30:30,479 --> 01:30:33,000
Speaker 28: not been able to find anything damaging against the pre

1747
01:30:33,280 --> 01:30:34,080
Speaker 28: president whatsoever.

1748
01:30:34,240 --> 01:30:36,240
Speaker 4: So I want to go through rapid fire and name

1749
01:30:36,280 --> 01:30:38,760
Speaker 4: by name that have been implicated in this recent drop,

1750
01:30:39,040 --> 01:30:41,320
Speaker 4: and so try We've got to keep our answers tight

1751
01:30:41,320 --> 01:30:43,320
Speaker 4: here because we'll run along on time here, and they feel.

1752
01:30:43,160 --> 01:30:44,120
Speaker 1: So much to go through.

1753
01:30:44,880 --> 01:30:47,160
Speaker 4: But we've got one one minute left in this segment.

1754
01:30:48,000 --> 01:30:51,000
Speaker 4: But just touch on the Pizzagate thing. They mentioned pizza,

1755
01:30:51,160 --> 01:30:58,120
Speaker 4: they mentioned so obviously this makes us think back, is

1756
01:30:58,360 --> 01:31:00,400
Speaker 4: there anything there that you can see people like pizza?

1757
01:31:00,560 --> 01:31:03,680
Speaker 28: People people like pizza, people like steak. We we've got

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01:31:04,360 --> 01:31:06,600
Speaker 28: I worked in politics before. Where do you go for

1759
01:31:06,680 --> 01:31:09,639
Speaker 28: a campaign meeting? You go to a pizza house. You'll

1760
01:31:09,720 --> 01:31:11,920
Speaker 28: meet It's the it's the go to thing. The problem

1761
01:31:12,080 --> 01:31:15,519
Speaker 28: is when you take thousands, tens and tens of thousands

1762
01:31:15,560 --> 01:31:20,240
Speaker 28: of emails and only pick out the emails that say pizza.

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01:31:20,400 --> 01:31:23,639
Speaker 28: I bet if we look through your emails or my emails,

1764
01:31:23,920 --> 01:31:26,799
Speaker 28: we would find references to pizza. We might find some misteak.

1765
01:31:27,520 --> 01:31:31,120
Speaker 28: And when they're put out there without any context, then

1766
01:31:31,200 --> 01:31:34,240
Speaker 28: you can spin this whole conspiracy theory. And then you're

1767
01:31:34,320 --> 01:31:34,720
Speaker 28: looked at.

1768
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Speaker 4: The emails in context. Yeah, you're saying, you've looked at them.

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Speaker 28: Many of these emails. We've got to remember about ninety

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01:31:44,040 --> 01:31:46,280
Speaker 28: what we're seeing in the Epstein file so far is

1771
01:31:46,360 --> 01:31:48,760
Speaker 28: already out there. So I have seen them, I've seen

1772
01:31:48,800 --> 01:31:52,040
Speaker 28: the context. There is nothing since then, I just talking about.

1773
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Speaker 4: Ninety emails about pizza in my Gmail.

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Speaker 1: There you go, I keep that quiet.

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Speaker 28: You're going to end up on a list, will.

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Speaker 4: Be all right, we're here with Jay Beecher, been covering

1777
01:32:12,880 --> 01:32:15,840
Speaker 4: Epstein for six years. Interviewed a lot of people, including

1778
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Speaker 4: Jeffrey Epstein's brother, Virginia Guffries's inner circle.

1779
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Speaker 1: Jay, we see references to goyam goy.

1780
01:32:25,760 --> 01:32:28,839
Speaker 4: Is there any indication, I mean, obviously you think Massad,

1781
01:32:29,000 --> 01:32:32,479
Speaker 4: you think you think Israeli connections a hubarahi any that's

1782
01:32:32,720 --> 01:32:38,280
Speaker 4: obviously Jeffrey Jews what I think? Wow, is there anything there?

1783
01:32:38,520 --> 01:32:41,680
Speaker 4: Because that's a that's a term that would be offensive.

1784
01:32:42,000 --> 01:32:45,200
Speaker 4: That was he did he sort of see himself as

1785
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Speaker 4: a US versus them? You know anything there?

1786
01:32:49,400 --> 01:32:52,000
Speaker 28: Well, if you go back to the context and reading there,

1787
01:32:52,040 --> 01:32:54,840
Speaker 28: he's actually joking when he mentions that I can't remember

1788
01:32:54,840 --> 01:32:57,720
Speaker 28: who it is now who asks him a question? Are

1789
01:32:57,760 --> 01:33:00,599
Speaker 28: the Jewish people that she said something or that will

1790
01:33:00,640 --> 01:33:03,160
Speaker 28: be a predominantly Jewish event, you know, it's like a

1791
01:33:03,640 --> 01:33:06,000
Speaker 28: dinner party or something, And he said, no, there'll be

1792
01:33:06,080 --> 01:33:08,920
Speaker 28: a lot of Gohi there. It's it's it's tongue in cheap.

1793
01:33:08,960 --> 01:33:12,040
Speaker 28: When you read his emails, and particularly the emails that

1794
01:33:12,120 --> 01:33:15,479
Speaker 28: he's had in exchange with this person before, they joke

1795
01:33:15,560 --> 01:33:18,240
Speaker 28: and banter a lot. So it is just a tongue

1796
01:33:18,240 --> 01:33:21,920
Speaker 28: in cheap comment. You know it's not there's nothing, you know,

1797
01:33:22,080 --> 01:33:24,080
Speaker 28: sort of like they're the master race or you know,

1798
01:33:24,200 --> 01:33:26,360
Speaker 28: there's no there's nothing like that in there at all.

1799
01:33:26,720 --> 01:33:30,400
Speaker 28: Once again, it comes down to context and reading. When

1800
01:33:30,439 --> 01:33:33,960
Speaker 28: you learn spend years reading how Jeffrey Epstein talks. He

1801
01:33:34,080 --> 01:33:36,040
Speaker 28: did actually joke quite a lot. He didn't make a

1802
01:33:36,080 --> 01:33:37,920
Speaker 28: lot of tongue and make.

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01:33:37,880 --> 01:33:41,400
Speaker 1: Any references of killing people or offering people.

1804
01:33:41,680 --> 01:33:44,400
Speaker 4: I've seen rumors of that with twenty seconds and I

1805
01:33:44,439 --> 01:33:46,320
Speaker 4: have another break here and will be Yeah.

1806
01:33:46,400 --> 01:33:48,519
Speaker 28: So you know there were some there's a couple of

1807
01:33:48,600 --> 01:33:52,160
Speaker 28: emails where he jokes about killing people and they're clearly

1808
01:33:52,520 --> 01:33:55,479
Speaker 28: evidence as jokes. But then there's some accuse. There's an

1809
01:33:55,479 --> 01:34:01,400
Speaker 28: accuser who accused him in the documents of kill certain victims.

1810
01:34:01,640 --> 01:34:04,840
Speaker 28: And yet this accuser, because her name's redacted, the public

1811
01:34:04,920 --> 01:34:07,000
Speaker 28: don't know. I've already looked into her and she was

1812
01:34:07,080 --> 01:34:09,880
Speaker 28: debunked many many years ago as a complete fantasist.

1813
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Speaker 6: Got to welcome back.

1814
01:34:12,000 --> 01:34:17,599
Speaker 1: Do we have it all right?

1815
01:34:18,040 --> 01:34:18,240
Speaker 22: Peter?

1816
01:34:18,600 --> 01:34:23,320
Speaker 4: So I just ask you about references to Jeffrey Everson

1817
01:34:23,400 --> 01:34:26,160
Speaker 4: killing people. You're saying the accuser was debunked as a

1818
01:34:26,720 --> 01:34:29,200
Speaker 4: as not a reliable person basically.

1819
01:34:29,560 --> 01:34:32,760
Speaker 28: Yeah, not just that she was found to have had

1820
01:34:32,800 --> 01:34:36,920
Speaker 28: a history of serious mental health problems and of making

1821
01:34:37,040 --> 01:34:42,640
Speaker 28: false accusations and those investigate those claims were investigated and

1822
01:34:42,720 --> 01:34:43,799
Speaker 28: found not to be credible.

1823
01:34:43,840 --> 01:34:46,040
Speaker 4: All right, So it's not like, you know, this is

1824
01:34:46,400 --> 01:34:49,519
Speaker 4: anything new rapid fire here or the last segment.

1825
01:34:49,520 --> 01:34:52,519
Speaker 1: We've got seven minutes left. Peter Tiel, What did we learn?

1826
01:34:54,320 --> 01:34:58,400
Speaker 28: Not much about Peter Teel. There's not much. I focused

1827
01:34:58,479 --> 01:35:01,559
Speaker 28: less on Peter till at the moment. I've been focusing

1828
01:35:01,640 --> 01:35:06,360
Speaker 28: more on Prince Andrew and on Peter Mandelson and people

1829
01:35:06,720 --> 01:35:07,240
Speaker 28: people like that.

1830
01:35:07,479 --> 01:35:10,599
Speaker 4: And of course Elon Musk.

1831
01:35:10,680 --> 01:35:12,800
Speaker 28: What have we learn Elon Musk? So I had known

1832
01:35:12,880 --> 01:35:15,920
Speaker 28: when I very first saw Elon put out, you know,

1833
01:35:16,080 --> 01:35:19,680
Speaker 28: this claim that he had photo bombed Glen Maxwell photobomb

1834
01:35:19,680 --> 01:35:22,120
Speaker 28: didn't I knew that to be a lie anyway, because

1835
01:35:22,840 --> 01:35:26,519
Speaker 28: I'd already interviewed some of Glen Maxwell's siblings and this

1836
01:35:27,320 --> 01:35:29,920
Speaker 28: he was, he was close friends with Glen Maxwell. But

1837
01:35:30,120 --> 01:35:32,720
Speaker 28: they wanted to distance themselves, you know, Elon Musk and

1838
01:35:32,800 --> 01:35:35,200
Speaker 28: other people wanted to say no, I I wasn't very

1839
01:35:35,200 --> 01:35:37,840
Speaker 28: close to them at all. So but there isn't anything

1840
01:35:37,960 --> 01:35:41,600
Speaker 28: damning against Elon Musk. Again, it's it's kilt by association.

1841
01:35:41,960 --> 01:35:44,800
Speaker 28: Of course, he knew Glen Maxwell, he knew Jeffrey you know,

1842
01:35:44,840 --> 01:35:47,479
Speaker 28: he knew Jeffrey Epstein. He was invited to the island,

1843
01:35:47,640 --> 01:35:51,000
Speaker 28: but didn't go to the island. So there's absolutely nothing

1844
01:35:51,400 --> 01:35:54,719
Speaker 28: in the Epstein files that are that is critical about

1845
01:35:54,760 --> 01:35:55,280
Speaker 28: Elon Musk.

1846
01:35:56,040 --> 01:35:57,719
Speaker 1: So he basically just wanted to go to a piety.

1847
01:35:57,720 --> 01:35:59,760
Speaker 4: And by the way Elon Musk has been public he

1848
01:35:59,800 --> 01:36:04,799
Speaker 4: want to see Jeffrey Epstein, the accusers in the actual victims.

1849
01:36:04,840 --> 01:36:08,400
Speaker 1: He's underage girls once is he justice for them?

1850
01:36:08,800 --> 01:36:11,519
Speaker 4: Obviously Jeffrey Epstin's already dead, so there's only so much.

1851
01:36:11,439 --> 01:36:13,080
Speaker 1: She could do. But if anybody else was involved.

1852
01:36:13,240 --> 01:36:17,439
Speaker 4: So Prince Andrew, you mentioned Prince Andrew, Yeah, what do

1853
01:36:17,560 --> 01:36:21,000
Speaker 4: we What did we learn and are learning about Prince Andrew.

1854
01:36:22,080 --> 01:36:24,840
Speaker 28: So a lot of what you're seeing now that you know,

1855
01:36:25,000 --> 01:36:28,040
Speaker 28: these headlines are saying this new revelation has been found

1856
01:36:28,160 --> 01:36:31,680
Speaker 28: against Prince Andrew in the Epstein fist. It's a lie.

1857
01:36:32,280 --> 01:36:34,559
Speaker 28: There are allegations that have been public for many, many

1858
01:36:34,680 --> 01:36:38,760
Speaker 28: years and available. People just haven't looked for them like

1859
01:36:38,880 --> 01:36:42,160
Speaker 28: I say, going back to it with Prince Andrew, Virginia

1860
01:36:42,280 --> 01:36:44,200
Speaker 28: is the only person who has accused him. He was

1861
01:36:44,280 --> 01:36:46,960
Speaker 28: originally she originally claimed she didn't have sex with him

1862
01:36:46,960 --> 01:36:49,479
Speaker 28: at all. Then she claimed that she had sex with

1863
01:36:49,560 --> 01:36:52,680
Speaker 28: him in New Mexico. Then she claimed a few other

1864
01:36:52,720 --> 01:36:55,240
Speaker 28: things and admitted that it was a complete lie. So

1865
01:36:55,439 --> 01:36:58,640
Speaker 28: I think that whilst he has made some you know,

1866
01:36:59,000 --> 01:37:01,599
Speaker 28: made some mistakes in the past and has not helped

1867
01:37:01,680 --> 01:37:05,400
Speaker 28: himself with regards to this, he is innocent and let

1868
01:37:05,479 --> 01:37:06,680
Speaker 28: us just cheat end right.

1869
01:37:06,760 --> 01:37:09,479
Speaker 4: I mean, he was going he was essentially going outside

1870
01:37:09,520 --> 01:37:11,200
Speaker 4: of his marriage. We know that much, correct.

1871
01:37:12,040 --> 01:37:14,240
Speaker 28: Well, You've got to remember he was divorced by the

1872
01:37:14,479 --> 01:37:18,360
Speaker 28: long long before he ever supposedly met Virginia Jafrey. He

1873
01:37:18,479 --> 01:37:21,639
Speaker 28: was already divorced. He lives still with his wife, Fernie.

1874
01:37:22,040 --> 01:37:25,439
Speaker 28: But here we have. So the latest revelation that the

1875
01:37:25,479 --> 01:37:29,960
Speaker 28: headlines are going mad about is that a new woman

1876
01:37:30,479 --> 01:37:33,120
Speaker 28: has accused Prince Andrew. She said that when she was

1877
01:37:33,160 --> 01:37:36,400
Speaker 28: about twenty four, she met Prince Andrew. She slept with

1878
01:37:36,479 --> 01:37:39,320
Speaker 28: Prince Andrew, that this following morning they woke up, had

1879
01:37:39,360 --> 01:37:41,960
Speaker 28: breakfast together, and he gave her a tour of bucking

1880
01:37:42,439 --> 01:37:45,439
Speaker 28: palace and then she said goodbye and left. Now that's

1881
01:37:45,479 --> 01:37:48,240
Speaker 28: scene as a big scandal. But here we have a

1882
01:37:48,360 --> 01:37:54,160
Speaker 28: single divorcee supposedly sleeping, if it's true, with an adult

1883
01:37:54,479 --> 01:37:57,720
Speaker 28: woman of her own free will, and suddenly you've got

1884
01:37:57,720 --> 01:37:59,640
Speaker 28: the lawyers saying, you know, he must pay up more

1885
01:37:59,720 --> 01:38:03,559
Speaker 28: money to help her get over her trauma. I don't

1886
01:38:03,600 --> 01:38:05,920
Speaker 28: know what trauma. I think he should be invoicing her.

1887
01:38:06,320 --> 01:38:07,920
Speaker 28: You know I had to pay for a tour of

1888
01:38:08,000 --> 01:38:08,639
Speaker 28: bucking battles.

1889
01:38:08,760 --> 01:38:12,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, fair enough. Bill Gates, Bill.

1890
01:38:12,400 --> 01:38:17,080
Speaker 28: Gates is the obviously the damning email about him can

1891
01:38:17,479 --> 01:38:22,080
Speaker 28: supposedly getting an STI now, I don't know if that's true.

1892
01:38:22,200 --> 01:38:25,639
Speaker 28: Nobody knows except from Jeffrey Epstein, who's dead, and Bill Gates,

1893
01:38:25,880 --> 01:38:27,680
Speaker 28: who is alive. But he isn't going to go on

1894
01:38:27,760 --> 01:38:32,080
Speaker 28: any shows too soon, so it could be true. I

1895
01:38:32,240 --> 01:38:34,720
Speaker 28: don't know about Bill Gates, but it's very damaging for

1896
01:38:34,920 --> 01:38:38,360
Speaker 28: his reputation, not because he was associated with Jeffrey Epstein,

1897
01:38:38,680 --> 01:38:42,160
Speaker 28: but that I think that that one claim about him

1898
01:38:42,280 --> 01:38:45,200
Speaker 28: in the email from Jeffrey is going to stick with

1899
01:38:45,320 --> 01:38:46,800
Speaker 28: him and smear him for a long time.

1900
01:38:47,000 --> 01:38:49,360
Speaker 4: So there is something you told me about that I

1901
01:38:49,439 --> 01:38:52,000
Speaker 4: actually found surprising, and I think it gets lost in

1902
01:38:52,080 --> 01:38:55,840
Speaker 4: all the noise here. You know, my assumption was that

1903
01:38:55,920 --> 01:38:58,680
Speaker 4: Jeffrey Epstein was sleeping with all of these women. This

1904
01:38:59,040 --> 01:39:00,680
Speaker 4: is going to be a little grabb if you have

1905
01:39:00,920 --> 01:39:03,320
Speaker 4: If you have young kids in the room with you

1906
01:39:03,439 --> 01:39:07,880
Speaker 4: right now, please your master or take them away, do

1907
01:39:07,960 --> 01:39:09,280
Speaker 4: your best to not be so graphic.

1908
01:39:09,360 --> 01:39:11,439
Speaker 1: But that's not the case, apparently.

1909
01:39:11,880 --> 01:39:14,800
Speaker 4: Can you explain he had some deformities?

1910
01:39:15,760 --> 01:39:16,640
Speaker 1: Do your monk had so?

1911
01:39:18,000 --> 01:39:22,120
Speaker 28: Jeffrey Epstein has admitted this himself, Glenn Maxwell has testified

1912
01:39:22,160 --> 01:39:24,960
Speaker 28: to this, and ninety nine percent of the victims have

1913
01:39:25,040 --> 01:39:27,479
Speaker 28: all corroborated each other when they say this. And yet

1914
01:39:27,520 --> 01:39:32,679
Speaker 28: apologies for being eighteen plus here, but he was proven

1915
01:39:32,720 --> 01:39:34,000
Speaker 28: to have the rectile dysfunction.

1916
01:39:34,600 --> 01:39:35,360
Speaker 3: He couldn't get up.

1917
01:39:35,400 --> 01:39:38,240
Speaker 28: Basically, he was taking medication for that. It wasn't working.

1918
01:39:38,320 --> 01:39:41,479
Speaker 28: He was taking testosterone for that. He was very frustrated man.

1919
01:39:42,080 --> 01:39:44,920
Speaker 28: The victims of all stated that he had a deformity

1920
01:39:45,200 --> 01:39:48,559
Speaker 28: as well, that he wasn't exactly the biggest of chaps,

1921
01:39:48,640 --> 01:39:52,639
Speaker 28: let's just put it that way, and that he would

1922
01:39:52,720 --> 01:39:54,920
Speaker 28: not have sexual intercourse with them. If you read the

1923
01:39:55,000 --> 01:40:00,240
Speaker 28: lawsuits themselves and read the testimonies, you'll see the nine

1924
01:40:00,280 --> 01:40:03,960
Speaker 28: percent of the time he did not have sexual, full

1925
01:40:04,040 --> 01:40:06,920
Speaker 28: sex with these people. He was a person who would

1926
01:40:07,240 --> 01:40:09,840
Speaker 28: get that's why the massage table was there. He would

1927
01:40:09,840 --> 01:40:13,599
Speaker 28: be massaged, and whilst the massage was happening, he would

1928
01:40:13,920 --> 01:40:16,360
Speaker 28: use a toy on one of the girls and he

1929
01:40:16,400 --> 01:40:19,160
Speaker 28: would masturbate. That that's the clean but it's the cleanest

1930
01:40:19,200 --> 01:40:20,960
Speaker 28: locking put Andrew, I'm afraid.

1931
01:40:20,840 --> 01:40:23,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, but but this is what this is.

1932
01:40:23,439 --> 01:40:25,800
Speaker 4: This is I think people have it in their mind

1933
01:40:25,880 --> 01:40:28,800
Speaker 4: that it's yeah, there were these girls around, people would

1934
01:40:28,840 --> 01:40:31,760
Speaker 4: want to party with Jeffrey Epstein, and you know, they

1935
01:40:31,880 --> 01:40:34,840
Speaker 4: might have done other things, but him particularly. I that

1936
01:40:35,000 --> 01:40:37,240
Speaker 4: was a revelation to me because I just was assuming.

1937
01:40:38,280 --> 01:40:40,840
Speaker 12: It's interesting how the same thing has come to play

1938
01:40:40,880 --> 01:40:44,400
Speaker 12: with the Harvey Weinstein case that he also apparently had

1939
01:40:44,960 --> 01:40:48,040
Speaker 12: deformities down there that hinder a lot of them.

1940
01:40:48,120 --> 01:40:50,560
Speaker 28: We were talking about this earlier, that there is a

1941
01:40:50,640 --> 01:40:53,000
Speaker 28: lot of psychology that's been into this, and and some

1942
01:40:53,200 --> 01:40:56,880
Speaker 28: of the biggest people who have committed sexual assault or

1943
01:40:57,000 --> 01:41:00,160
Speaker 28: prolific in committing sexual assault, a very high point ortion

1944
01:41:00,280 --> 01:41:03,120
Speaker 28: of them have found to have had a rectal dysfunction

1945
01:41:03,760 --> 01:41:07,360
Speaker 28: or some sort of deformity and it internalizes their sexual

1946
01:41:07,439 --> 01:41:10,120
Speaker 28: frustration and then they lash out on or try and

1947
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Speaker 28: do it other ways, or they they're so sexually charged.

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Speaker 28: And Jeffrey Epstein was the most sex obsessed person I

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Speaker 28: think I've ever read about and looked into. Well, and

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Speaker 28: yet yeah that's not talked about. But it wasn't sex.

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Speaker 28: He was into BDSM. He was into you know, think

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Speaker 28: that his main thing was self pleasure because he couldn't

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Speaker 28: get anyone else to bring him to that point of satisfaction.

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Speaker 4: That's I know, it's graphic, and I apologize to our viewers.

1955
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Speaker 4: I think it's important though to get the truth, and

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Speaker 4: the truth is it's some sort of mix between the

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Speaker 4: lies and the headlines. And I think, you know, it's

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Speaker 4: interesting we kind of end where we started. That President

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Speaker 4: Trump was probably proven right in a lot of it.

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Speaker 4: I do not support the messaging necessarily. I think it

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Speaker 4: was counterproductive. But President Trump knew this guy was just

1962
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Speaker 4: a creep that was leeching off a lot of people

1963
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Speaker 4: and a fraudster, and he was a kink sexually charged

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Speaker 4: certainly and.

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Speaker 1: Has done a lot of bad things.

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Speaker 4: But a lot of people are getting smeared by guilt

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Speaker 4: by association in this story, and I think that's interesting.

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Speaker 4: I'm going to finish up with you in just a

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Speaker 4: few more minutes. Got to say goodbye to Real America's Voice,

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Speaker 4: our great friends there. We'll see you tomorrow. A few

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Speaker 4: more minutes with Jay Beecher, we'll be at back