Speaker 1: Every day a week. Click your ass up the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 2: Finish for y'all mourning.
Speaker 3: Everybody's thej Envy Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne the Guy.
Speaker 4: We are the Breakfast Club. We got some special guest.
Speaker 5: In the belt Man Legends.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 4: We have the legendary kid from Kidding.
Speaker 6: Play and we have welcome fellas, some legends in.
Speaker 4: The game killing good wait, chilling.
Speaker 7: That's right, y'all celebrating so much Man thirty fifth anniversary
Speaker 7: a house party, and y'all are being inducted into the
Speaker 7: National Hip Hop Museum.
Speaker 5: Kidding Play.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Wow, yeahs in full force.
Speaker 5: You're still getting money.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you.
Speaker 8: Split this six ways because the three of us are
Speaker 8: the full force brothers, Paul Anthony b Fine, then we
Speaker 8: have our three cousins, Baby, Jerry and Kurt.
Speaker 9: Six way collective, full.
Speaker 2: Force except house party royalties except house party.
Speaker 8: Yes, Oh, y'all don't get the three of us is
Speaker 8: just the three of us, and we don't split it
Speaker 8: six My type of hype the song.
Speaker 2: And gotch it's the lines.
Speaker 5: What y'all look younger? Now, y'all did a house party.
Speaker 5: I can't believe they tried.
Speaker 1: To make believe you'll.
Speaker 10: Jesus, I understand that the cafeteria, but you know what,
Speaker 10: in a weird way, it kind of worked. I mean
Speaker 10: the whole movie was kind of over the top, you know,
Speaker 10: all that all that colors. So yeah, I mean, I
Speaker 10: hear more about that now than we did then. People
Speaker 10: weren't really complaining about it, or.
Speaker 1: You didn't noticing it as much, you know what I mean.
Speaker 11: As you guys are celebrating this anniversary, what are some
Speaker 11: of the things that you instantly think back to, because
Speaker 11: I being on set probably was just like an experience.
Speaker 4: But before you're into that house play doings player.
Speaker 10: Uh, they had some how would we classify? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 10: he had some accommodation difficulties this morning, so shout out
Speaker 10: to play hotel.
Speaker 1: He's here in Spirit. Yeah, his hotel was okay.
Speaker 8: Well, don't give the name in a hotel, but I
Speaker 8: think you told me that there was some here.
Speaker 5: I just saw the tell.
Speaker 4: The airport.
Speaker 11: Then you really have hotel accommodation issues or that was
Speaker 11: a joke play, I.
Speaker 5: Was joking with the mouse.
Speaker 1: I don't know that part is that part?
Speaker 10: That part is real, you know, but you know, I know,
Speaker 10: you know, we all go back a little wat here so,
Speaker 10: but he's definitely.
Speaker 1: A hearing spirit.
Speaker 10: But to your to your question, I guess with each anniversary,
Speaker 10: each milestone, because you get to like it was ten
Speaker 10: twenty twenty five, we're actually at thirty five. Is kind
Speaker 10: of a kind of a bug out, and now you're
Speaker 10: at the point where, okay, well.
Speaker 1: Who's still here? You know what I mean?
Speaker 10: I lost, We didn't lost some of the soldiers and whatnot.
Speaker 10: But I think, but to your point, a lot of
Speaker 10: it and we were talking about this the other guy
Speaker 10: or the other day. Is it's stuff like that happened
Speaker 10: on set. I mean, for a lot of us, it
Speaker 10: was our first film. We wasn't making a lot of money.
Speaker 10: We didn't have a lot of money then or whatever.
Speaker 10: But it was kind of the joy and the camaraderie
Speaker 10: of of doing it and it stood to this day,
Speaker 10: which is.
Speaker 2: A how did that for?
Speaker 3: How did it come together? How did the whole house
Speaker 3: party didn't come together? Y'all were young, y'all were fresh
Speaker 3: that were just kicking off.
Speaker 4: How did they decide we're going.
Speaker 3: To do a movie based on y'all? And how much
Speaker 3: did y'all get paid back then? I'm just kidding well, well,
Speaker 3: DJ and V. You you know how hot kidd and
Speaker 3: play was in the city at that time. Okay, we were,
Speaker 3: but no, we were. We were playing out were hot,
Speaker 3: and not.
Speaker 10: Just just the music, but the videos were really starting
Speaker 10: the bus and our look and sound and vibe. So
Speaker 10: Rezzie had Linda director, one of the producers, used to uh,
Speaker 10: it was his idea. It was his Harvard thesis that
Speaker 10: he turned into a full length feature script, and he
Speaker 10: would occasionally step to us in the clubs because he
Speaker 10: wanted us to do our music. He wanted to do
Speaker 10: our music videos. But we were cool on that. We
Speaker 10: had somebody for that at the time. Then he started
Speaker 10: pushing the script. I read the script. We read the script,
Speaker 10: and it was the first thing that we had gotten
Speaker 10: that had been submitted to us that was really it
Speaker 10: was close. You know, it wasn't one hundred percent, but
Speaker 10: I felt like it was like seventy seventy five, and
Speaker 10: I was like, I thought we could get at the
Speaker 10: rest of the way. And you know, that's the cliff
Speaker 10: notes version. And I think there's a famous story going
Speaker 10: on at that time where it could have been us,
Speaker 10: or it could have been fresh Prince and jazzy Jeff Right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is something. There's something to that.
Speaker 5: I feel like y'all predated him just a little bit though, right.
Speaker 10: Not about the same time, though, Charlottage. If you think
Speaker 10: about it, you're talking about eighty seven, eighty eight. Matter
Speaker 10: of fact, Willing then blew up nationally, I think a
Speaker 10: little bit ahead of us.
Speaker 1: Remember they had the party lines and all that kind
Speaker 1: of stuff.
Speaker 10: So yeah, but yeah, definitely, and so we're definitely that
Speaker 10: same era. And guess what, to this day, I'm sure
Speaker 10: they would have did a great job, you know what
Speaker 10: I mean.
Speaker 2: I can't see nah, I mean, I mean, that's kind
Speaker 2: of crazy to say that. In hindsight, I.
Speaker 5: Guess, but I just can't see it.
Speaker 2: The chemistry was crazy. We talked about that.
Speaker 6: We did an online tribute to see a j from
Speaker 6: Africa and t Sha and everybody, and what we talked
Speaker 6: about was the seasoning of the little things that that
Speaker 6: makes it really whole and the chemistry that we all had,
Speaker 6: and everybody spoke of, you know, their parts, like and
Speaker 6: all of us didn't know everybody's journey. Like we started
Speaker 6: asking t Sha, so, teacher, how did you hook up?
Speaker 6: And they was like school days and Jackson, well, what
Speaker 6: made y'all do that dancing? And she said, I didn't
Speaker 6: do that. Be Agent choreographed the whole thing. And then
Speaker 6: it was just so much thing that we were just
Speaker 6: finding out, you know. So to your point, that's in chemistry.
Speaker 10: Yeah, and also to Reggie Huddling, Uh, he had the
Speaker 10: benefit of leaning on all our individual talents.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. You know that that T
Speaker 1: and AJ could just come up.
Speaker 10: With a you know, with a dance battle routine like
Speaker 10: that to go up against you know, the dances that
Speaker 10: Play and.
Speaker 1: I were doing.
Speaker 10: You know that doesn't that doesn't necessarily come in the package.
Speaker 10: You know, you need you need you need a battle rap. Well,
Speaker 10: you know, Kid and Play can provide that. You need
Speaker 10: a big song like ain't my type of hype for
Speaker 10: the dance battle, Well for us can provide that.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 1: So you know, I think you know, he definitely benefited.
Speaker 10: From our some of our superpowers that we kind of
Speaker 10: brought to the table. But like I said, being so young,
Speaker 10: we were just like you know, we weren't like you know, uh,
Speaker 10: being asked to do something extra. Wasn't like yo, yo,
Speaker 10: I need to get let's just do it. Let's do it,
Speaker 10: and you know, we'll see at the top.
Speaker 8: You know, the original script with me and my brother's
Speaker 8: the original script when Reggie wrote it. It had full
Speaker 8: Force described in the script as descriptions.
Speaker 5: We weren't even cast.
Speaker 8: Then it said something that kidn't play or accosted by
Speaker 8: droopy Jerry Curroll.
Speaker 9: Guys were great physiqus somebody like full force.
Speaker 2: That was literally in the scriptscription.
Speaker 8: So Robert Ford, who used to co produce our music
Speaker 8: with us, it was a good firm of Reggie, said, Reggie,
Speaker 8: why didn't you just get full force? And then that's
Speaker 8: when he made a phone call to my brother Paul.
Speaker 8: The three of us got together. Now in the script,
Speaker 8: I think we were the first ones to start bum
Speaker 8: rushing the script, the original script. After we did the tablew'd,
Speaker 8: I told my brothers and said, man, we're just like
Speaker 8: bullies with no personalities in this. Listen, my brothers was
Speaker 8: supposed to be pee Wee. I said, Pubby pee Wee,
Speaker 8: you're the your stab.
Speaker 12: Now talk like this throughout the whole movie, you know,
Speaker 12: kicking some fucking ass. And then we just create our
Speaker 12: own roles and we created our own scenes, and then
Speaker 12: we showed Reggie and Warrington huddling.
Speaker 9: They came to.
Speaker 8: See the three of us do our things with blood
Speaker 8: brothers anyway, so our chemistry is great. And Warrington as
Speaker 8: soon as he saw did Warrington Hudland say keep it?
Speaker 8: And Reggie Hudland said, you heard my brother keep it?
Speaker 1: And so it wasn't it wasn't no kick your hand,
Speaker 1: there wasn't.
Speaker 13: No, it's not like you should have got.
Speaker 5: You noticed. Man said that randomly for no reason.
Speaker 1: I heard, no reason.
Speaker 2: That happens in the street. That happens everywhere. People that
Speaker 2: all the time.
Speaker 9: Sometimes I say it before they say it.
Speaker 6: Just and on the set, Martin was like a little
Speaker 6: brother everybody. And the best word that describes that whole
Speaker 6: experience was unity. Your smooth segue into while we're here.
Speaker 7: Yeah, So wait a minute, who wrote the jail house rap?
Speaker 7: Because you Reggie? Okay, all right, I'm like, ain't no
Speaker 7: way Reggie wrote that.
Speaker 10: No, no, but this typically, like I said, Reggie would
Speaker 10: come to you, uh, the night before or two nights
Speaker 10: before and say.
Speaker 1: Hey man, we need a rap in the in the jail.
Speaker 1: M You know what I'm saying. You gotta write a
Speaker 1: rap in the jail.
Speaker 10: Herbie did a little beat you know when he said, Yo,
Speaker 10: we need a we need a rap battle.
Speaker 1: Trust me, all that stuff wasn't in the original. But
Speaker 1: it wasn't.
Speaker 10: But but at his credit though no, he recognized it.
Speaker 10: So by the time we into the movie. Now we
Speaker 10: a few weeks into the movie and he's seeing really
Speaker 10: who he's working with. He's like, man, I ain't nothing.
Speaker 10: I can't throw these dudes. These young as is down
Speaker 10: for whatever. Yo, we need a battle rap Okay. So
Speaker 10: that means I have to write it and play gotta
Speaker 10: do excuse me, I have to write it. Play has
Speaker 10: to perform it. Herbie got to do do the beat
Speaker 10: within a within a couple of days.
Speaker 1: So you know, I mean when you look at it now,
Speaker 1: I mean.
Speaker 10: To your to your point, just a lot of times
Speaker 10: people would have been like, all right, well you know
Speaker 10: that's that's that that didn't come with the original, right,
Speaker 10: you know what I mean. But that's just not what
Speaker 10: the mentality was back then. The mentality was like, let's go,
Speaker 10: let's let's just do it.
Speaker 7: I was in here with murderer, murderers and stranglers, you
Speaker 7: got it, just a bunch of romp Wranglers.
Speaker 5: That's wophobia was hilarious.
Speaker 10: Yeah, I will say this that I will say this.
Speaker 1: He got.
Speaker 5: Hilarious when you're.
Speaker 1: I'll say this. The jail rap has not aged.
Speaker 10: Well, wait till the point where one time I was watching,
Speaker 10: I was flipping and I see House Party on v
Speaker 10: H one, and he got to the point where the
Speaker 10: jail rap is supposed.
Speaker 1: To come out. Cut that bitch out.
Speaker 10: It's just like, you know, you know what the executives
Speaker 10: a v H one, Oh no.
Speaker 1: What's funny. When you were young?
Speaker 7: I was twelve, House Party came out. When you were young,
Speaker 7: you're thinking to yourself, and that's what jail is. So
Speaker 7: I just looked at from the perspective of you were
Speaker 7: just trying to take your butt right, that's.
Speaker 1: Number one priority.
Speaker 10: If you remember, there was I think I said one
Speaker 10: line was coming from the heart, from the center, the
Speaker 10: sign on my ass.
Speaker 1: And guess what we did this.
Speaker 10: We shot it at eighty nine. It came out of ninety.
Speaker 10: Nobody better than I. They were like, yeah, man.
Speaker 1: Freaking broke Wranglers.
Speaker 6: You know the only thing we fought for in that
Speaker 6: movie is that new line cinema out of nowhere.
Speaker 2: They wanted to make it PG. Thirteen.
Speaker 4: We went, I couldn't been.
Speaker 1: They would have warded it down.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, you know what you know that didn't happen.
Speaker 10: Yeah, you know what I'm saying because to B. B
Speaker 10: always makes his point and rightly. So you know the vernacular,
Speaker 10: you know, even in the jail rap or I smell pussy,
Speaker 10: the cuss words.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's how that's how we all spoke at that.
Speaker 10: Time in our lives as teenagers, you know what I mean?
Speaker 10: And and that's why that's why it holds up, it
Speaker 10: holds up to this day because it wasn't just about
Speaker 10: kidd and Play. Kid and Play was top line, but
Speaker 10: this became an ensemble movie. So you went from kidd
Speaker 10: and Play, You went to Full Force, You went to
Speaker 10: Robin Harris, you went to John Witherspoon, next Door talking Ship,
Speaker 10: George Clinton, you went to T and AJ showing that
Speaker 10: bond between homegirls and this is that little little rivalry.
Speaker 1: Darald Chill Mill peace right.
Speaker 10: So uh you know, And that's how that's how it evolved,
Speaker 10: and that's how why it's stood so strong to this day.
Speaker 11: And all the writing that you did, did you write
Speaker 11: for play as well, or did he write things that
Speaker 11: he did and himself well?
Speaker 10: And that the movie In terms of the battle, I
Speaker 10: wrote both parts because and early on that that would
Speaker 10: happen from time to time.
Speaker 1: He and I were so.
Speaker 10: Tight that I knew I knew how to write for him,
Speaker 10: to put him in the best position possible, you know
Speaker 10: what I mean. And obviously we're together all the time.
Speaker 10: I know how he thinks and stuff like that. And
Speaker 10: also too, you can't just think of the rap battle
Speaker 10: as a battle per se. You have to think of
Speaker 10: it in terms of it, you know, theatrically and and
Speaker 10: how you're writing it. You know, Play has to he
Speaker 10: has to take.
Speaker 1: The early lead.
Speaker 10: He has to be you know, he has to be
Speaker 10: whipping my ass basically the first part of the of
Speaker 10: the battle.
Speaker 1: And then in the end, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: I come.
Speaker 10: When I come riding in on the horse to kind
Speaker 10: of take it in the end, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 9: Yeah, But she didn't ask about the chemistry.
Speaker 8: She just basically said, so all this time in your career,
Speaker 8: you've been the ghost writer for Play.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, that's that that would be, that would
Speaker 1: be That is not.
Speaker 11: What I specifically what I was going to go back.
Speaker 11: I can ask a second question because I didn't. I
Speaker 11: want to know that was down.
Speaker 1: That would be inaccurate. I mean, somebody did a lot,
Speaker 1: a lot. I didn't.
Speaker 10: But if you're talking about that particular thing, yeah, I mean, look,
Speaker 10: we all between myself, Play and Herbie Lovebug, we were
Speaker 10: all together. We were a team, but everybody had their
Speaker 10: own kind of superpowers. My thing was the lyrics, you
Speaker 10: know on the music. Tip plays genius was. You know,
Speaker 10: He's the reason we looked the way we looked. He's
Speaker 10: the reason why we look cool. He's the reason why
Speaker 10: we dressed the way we dressed. He's the reason why
Speaker 10: the album covers, which were very important at that time,
Speaker 10: were styled the way they were. He's the one with
Speaker 10: the concepts of the music videos. Herbie oversaw everything. Herbie
Speaker 10: made the beats. Herbie was the one that you brought.
Speaker 10: You brought the record to him when you thought it
Speaker 10: was done, and he's like, no, it's not done. I mean,
Speaker 10: Herbie was Diddy before Diddy, you know, musically and creatively.
Speaker 1: So that's the thing.
Speaker 10: So when so when it was time for each one
Speaker 10: of us to kind of lean into those our little
Speaker 10: special power. You know, we did that as long as
Speaker 10: we win in the end.
Speaker 3: What you asked, what your flat top? Right, you didn't
Speaker 3: have a typical flat tip. That he was like foot
Speaker 3: long pause. Right when you got that flat tip and
Speaker 3: you came home with that, what did your mother say
Speaker 3: at that time?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 4: Right, what did your family say?
Speaker 10: Well, well, my mother had passed by then, God rest
Speaker 10: his sword, so I would have gave that white woman
Speaker 10: a heart attack. Okay, but no, my my I was
Speaker 10: raised by my Jamaican father, so he was none too pleased.
Speaker 10: He's like, your air looked like ebra. I'm Lincoln's hot,
Speaker 10: and my father was He was not. He was Jamaican
Speaker 10: and he was not a proponent of the hip hop life.
Speaker 10: You just love this black life, don't you.
Speaker 1: You're He never called it hip hop music. He said,
Speaker 1: y'all just love this, y'all got y'all got mulesic. And
Speaker 1: then after everything blows up, you know, he retired.
Speaker 10: I took him to the dealership to buy him a car.
Speaker 1: He was like, I always believed in.
Speaker 10: You give me that black legs us.
Speaker 1: Throw some DS on nothing.
Speaker 10: No, I just you know what I had to I
Speaker 10: wanted to use the same instinct that told me to
Speaker 10: do the high top in the first place. I always
Speaker 10: trusted that the same instinct would tell me when it
Speaker 10: was time to move off. So we had an opportunity
Speaker 10: when we started doing the movie Class Act, where I
Speaker 10: knew there was gonna be an opportunity to move to
Speaker 10: a different hairstyle, being the twist or dreads or what
Speaker 10: it eventually became. And uh so that's when I made
Speaker 10: the move, and I almost got in trouble for it.
Speaker 10: We always got in trouble when Warner Brothers signed us
Speaker 10: of that film and they heard I was thinking about
Speaker 10: changing the hot top, they threatened to sue us because
Speaker 10: they felt like, we're buying everything.
Speaker 1: Nigga, we're getting all that, you know what I mean.
Speaker 10: So we went back and forth when we compromised in
Speaker 10: terms of I would start the movie with the high
Speaker 10: top and then and then go to the twist, and
Speaker 10: then I never went back. And so this is shooting
Speaker 10: in like ninety one ninety two, so I haven't worn
Speaker 10: it since then, but it's still ever present. I think
Speaker 10: I think someone's working on a tombstone.
Speaker 1: That looked like a hot time. I will eventually be buried,
Speaker 1: but that's one.
Speaker 10: Of those things you can't you can't anticipate that either,
Speaker 10: that that's gonna resonate so many years.
Speaker 7: Going after brothers the full force. You know, y'all always
Speaker 7: noticed producers and musicians. Right when y'all started playing the
Speaker 7: villains comedic Villains and House Party? When did you realize
Speaker 7: that you had to have versatility in entertainment?
Speaker 10: You up, but that's kind of think that's kind of
Speaker 10: what you did in House Party because you kind of
Speaker 10: you kind of played that role in Cross.
Speaker 2: Groove right right.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean groove.
Speaker 6: A lot of people don't know is that from kids.
Speaker 6: You know, we were always acting, always doing skits, making
Speaker 6: our parents watch and lou like for five Christmases in
Speaker 6: a row sometime he was twelve, he would get the
Speaker 6: same thing for Christmas. Canna give a show projector so
Speaker 6: he was always like filming and making us. I mean,
Speaker 6: he was making us do these plays. So when we
Speaker 6: when we started acting and doing it as we got older,
Speaker 6: people didn't know. But for us it was like nothing
Speaker 6: like if you remember the scene with us in the
Speaker 6: lunch room and I'm punching kid and then Luis goes, wait, wait, wait, okay, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 6: none of that's in the script. Matter of fact, a
Speaker 6: lot of things we did happen right there on set
Speaker 6: and we're just winging it the wrap all all of that.
Speaker 6: But that's because us, as kids doing it, we kind
Speaker 6: to know what you're gonna say, or if we don't,
Speaker 6: we play off of it.
Speaker 5: So y'all always understood the power of versatility.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, and it was a natural progression for us.
Speaker 6: That's why Hollywood looked for so many rappers because you
Speaker 6: were so authentic.
Speaker 2: My dad always tell us, don't you know, don't sing
Speaker 2: the song become the song.
Speaker 6: When I was producing, when I'm doing volks with Payla
Speaker 6: Bell or LaToya Jackson Lisa, I always say, don't sing
Speaker 6: the song become the song. So I think it was
Speaker 6: the same thing. It was just a natural progression for us.
Speaker 6: So we knew that you had to have versatile energy.
Speaker 3: The other thing, music would get back to the time
Speaker 3: where it was fun. Yes, like where y'all were dancing
Speaker 3: like you look at now and you go to the
Speaker 3: club now, you're not gonna see people dancing like the.
Speaker 4: Way you guys did right or the way we dance.
Speaker 3: Like you just don't see it anymore. Do you think
Speaker 3: it could get back to that funness?
Speaker 2: I think I do think so.
Speaker 6: I think I think the first thing is well, I
Speaker 6: think so because I think music is getting back to
Speaker 6: real songs. That's why you hear rapper samples, I hear
Speaker 6: real melodies. I think melo these are coming back, and
Speaker 6: saying has come back. When I do HBCU as appearances,
Speaker 6: I mean they're dressed like us, they're dancing like us,
Speaker 6: and you look for that old flavor and they doing
Speaker 6: some of the old dances and the old vibe and
Speaker 6: old energy.
Speaker 2: But I think it's coming back.
Speaker 6: It's going to be too because technology is just different.
Speaker 6: I mean when we all came up, even you know
Speaker 6: that we are significantly older than some. If you hear
Speaker 6: you might have caught that last wave of like those
Speaker 6: house parties, those.
Speaker 2: Basement jams, yo, those those were real. I mean those
Speaker 2: Rob's Club. I don't think it's going to come back
Speaker 2: in that way.
Speaker 6: I mean, everybody's buried in their phone, even at the parties,
Speaker 6: and you know, and dance was everything.
Speaker 2: You know, even when you had those parties, you had
Speaker 2: the hood rock dudes, you.
Speaker 6: Had the people that you know could dance. You had
Speaker 6: dance battles that I mean, this happened at every party.
Speaker 6: That type of texture is not the same. I remember,
Speaker 6: it's not and I think it's coming.
Speaker 3: Remember the last ten minutes of a party being R
Speaker 3: and B and you go have that girl for the
Speaker 3: last for your.
Speaker 6: When you were like just waiting for the slow jam
Speaker 6: and you ain't not the one you're gonna go to
Speaker 6: the come on yet that that Brothers joint or or
Speaker 6: heat wave.
Speaker 7: To get back to what year y'all talking because the
Speaker 7: reality it could be the early two thousands.
Speaker 5: We used to like dancing has never gone anywhere.
Speaker 4: I think to you, it happn't we go to clubs.
Speaker 7: Now they may not dance in the club, but they
Speaker 7: just dance like TikTok, that's what they dance.
Speaker 5: And then and then in the South, we never stopped dancing.
Speaker 5: In the South, were creating the dances in your New
Speaker 5: York Nigga.
Speaker 13: Was hating on it, but that's where he's saying though,
Speaker 13: Like like the part dancing at a party, people dancing
Speaker 13: front and all that, but actual like the actual feel
Speaker 13: of a house party with nobody in their phone.
Speaker 9: They just all having fun.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean, that's what.
Speaker 5: We need affordable housing.
Speaker 10: Then because people, you know, and then it's and then
Speaker 10: it's about the interaction between people. You know, it's why,
Speaker 10: it's why the kid in Play dance it is still
Speaker 10: people still enjoying that because you got to do it
Speaker 10: with somebody.
Speaker 1: You know what.
Speaker 10: It's a celebratory dance, you know what I mean. You
Speaker 10: you got a new job, do the kid and play?
Speaker 10: You just buzz or ut.
Speaker 6: But to Charlemagne's point, if you go down south, go
Speaker 6: to Virginia, oh yeah, they still rocking, They still dancing,
Speaker 6: They still doing it in the clubs and the schools.
Speaker 1: Everything.
Speaker 2: It all depends on the ground.
Speaker 1: I don't know, I mean.
Speaker 3: And then y'all changed it with the Switch was even
Speaker 3: crazy because now if you get a girl that you
Speaker 3: are like Switch, you're gonna write.
Speaker 4: To that one and you want But I don't.
Speaker 10: Know what happens now because the the the bottle service
Speaker 10: generation kind of moved out the dance generation.
Speaker 1: But all the inf that I'm getting online.
Speaker 10: In social media these days is that that bottle stuff
Speaker 10: is kind So what are people supposed to do now?
Speaker 1: You know, I still.
Speaker 10: Travel around the country either doing kidding play stuff or
Speaker 10: doing stand up so you know, they'll take you around
Speaker 10: to the clubs and whatnot.
Speaker 1: And I don't know, I don't you know, they'll they'll
Speaker 1: put me somewhere.
Speaker 10: I'm just I'm just looking. I feel like I'm a
Speaker 10: head of state.
Speaker 2: You know, you better not.
Speaker 11: You guys know, I don't know what are you talking about?
Speaker 1: You guys?
Speaker 11: I saw uh it was it was some time ago,
Speaker 11: but the least at lisa documentary or biopic, you guys
Speaker 11: not being included, and people were really upset about that.
Speaker 11: How did you guys feel personally though, because you guys
Speaker 11: have been in all the videos and.
Speaker 9: I'll speak on this trying to make it nicely.
Speaker 8: What happened is that at the time, I didn't know
Speaker 8: if there was any type of uh A negativity or
Speaker 8: anything like that until I saw Lisa and Tony Minaj
Speaker 8: who's her manager, do interviews together. I was kind of
Speaker 8: surprised at that. But as far as the movie, we
Speaker 8: weren't in it. You know, it's their movie, Tony and Lisa,
Speaker 8: they executive produced it. Coach Jam now was in it,
Speaker 8: and the coach Jam was mentioned. Col Jam wasn't down
Speaker 8: with all of that. Because nobody came to cult Jam,
Speaker 8: even though in interviews they said, well, you know, Coke
Speaker 8: Jam in full Force.
Speaker 9: It's everybody's confused.
Speaker 8: That was the reasoning they said that they didn't mention
Speaker 8: full Force because people would get confused with Cold Jam
Speaker 8: and full Force, and that's why they kind.
Speaker 6: Of you know, as a collective, we all have different
Speaker 6: personality theorists, but we come together. I'm a little boy,
Speaker 6: more direct in your face, so we want to wed.
Speaker 6: We did a show. We did a show and when
Speaker 6: I when they asked us a question, I said, to.
Speaker 2: Quote my dear brother burning in heaven something. She just
Speaker 2: don't make no sense.
Speaker 6: I said it on stage because it was bullshit. Okay,
Speaker 6: that's what it was. How can you do something like
Speaker 6: that without us? Yeah, okay, but I understand what they did,
Speaker 6: but it was just bullshit.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 8: What it was to was that they wanted to interject
Speaker 8: Tony the manager into the Lisa Lisa and co Jam career,
Speaker 8: to tell her story too. And she's you know, she's
Speaker 8: a nice person, talented also, but at the time in
Speaker 8: the movie that timeline, Tony wasn't there in that timeline.
Speaker 9: It's Cold Jam.
Speaker 8: They you can go on YouTube, and you'll see a
Speaker 8: YouTube to that says Cold Jam sets the record straight
Speaker 8: because they wanted people to know the scenario.
Speaker 9: At that timeline, it.
Speaker 8: Was just salsa, Lisa in Full Force and Cold Jam
Speaker 8: at the time, like Tony didn't come as far as
Speaker 8: managing Lisa by herself until down the line, maybe five
Speaker 8: six years before that, you know. But but after all
Speaker 8: of that, we weren't mad. You know, there was a
Speaker 8: backlash by a lot of fans and stuff like that,
Speaker 8: like how could you do that? My thing is that
Speaker 8: life is too short. Let's have a nice used to Lisa,
Speaker 8: col Jam and Full Force reunion together on the stage, because.
Speaker 2: I know we tried to do it before. It's okay.
Speaker 11: I think to sentiment, it's like when people tell the
Speaker 11: certain stories, there are certain things that you have to mention.
Speaker 2: The oversight was like intention.
Speaker 6: That was blade and I know I know Lisa wasn't
Speaker 6: gonna go to to over the top. Her and I
Speaker 6: always had a special bond. That's why she would have
Speaker 6: headband like me all the time. But I mean, some
Speaker 6: stuff that doesn't make sense. You can still get a point,
Speaker 6: of course, without shoveling the bullshit.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean, so be that as it may.
Speaker 2: Moving on.
Speaker 5: So did they say anything, how did they explain that?
Speaker 6: They apologize nicely after after I know, not to us,
Speaker 6: but we got worried that after the back like they
Speaker 6: were getting they will say yo, they put we love
Speaker 6: them and all that, you know.
Speaker 4: So you know, we talked about it earlier, and I
Speaker 4: was just curious.
Speaker 3: Y'all get tired of the things that people know about
Speaker 3: you the most, right, Like do people come to the
Speaker 3: airport but like, let's do a kid and play kickstap,
Speaker 3: Like do people.
Speaker 4: Come to me I smell? Like do y'all hate that?
Speaker 4: Or is it one of those things that just shows love?
Speaker 6: Yeah, shows love and it never gets I appreciate that
Speaker 6: every time. You know, that's how we're going to extend
Speaker 6: live forever stuff.
Speaker 10: Like yeah, yeah, I mean, if you really think about it,
Speaker 10: you know what I mean, sometimes I'll bug out, you
Speaker 10: know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I remember, I remember.
Speaker 10: I was I was I think I was still in
Speaker 10: college and I was working at this fucked up bank,
Speaker 10: green Point Savings.
Speaker 1: Bank, you know what I mean.
Speaker 10: Business Still, I was just I was just miserable. I
Speaker 10: had a supervisor that was really hawking me. Man she
Speaker 10: was really jocking it. So every time she went to
Speaker 10: the other side of the floor, I'd whip out this
Speaker 10: notebook and that I had all my rhymes in it
Speaker 10: and all a lot of the stuff that became the
Speaker 10: songs on our first album. And I just remember saying
Speaker 10: to myself, I gotta give the fuck.
Speaker 1: Out of here, man, you know what I mean.
Speaker 10: And now to see where stuff like that is gone,
Speaker 10: just words on a page to to you know, to
Speaker 10: conquering the toughest rap environment and most crucial rap environment
Speaker 10: ever existed. You know, we came out to try state
Speaker 10: that wasn't no, that was no small feat back then.
Speaker 10: The envy you know this, y'all know that, y'all y'all
Speaker 10: know this.
Speaker 1: We had to. We had to. You know.
Speaker 10: We we going to and performing at the Latin Quarters
Speaker 10: every weekend.
Speaker 1: It wasn't just a test of your test of your skill.
Speaker 1: It was a test of your manhood. It was a
Speaker 1: test of where.
Speaker 10: You know, going to Union Square you can get stabbed up,
Speaker 10: shot up. But we came back every single weekend and
Speaker 10: this and that. So, yeah, it's the words that that
Speaker 10: took life. It's the dances that that that that people
Speaker 10: still do to this day, it's hairstyles and stuff that
Speaker 10: people still talk about.
Speaker 1: It blows you.
Speaker 10: It blows your mind, to be honest. So so so
Speaker 10: when it gets when those references are made to all
Speaker 10: of us, I think I can speak for the fellas
Speaker 10: and for play. You're like, man, we appreciate it, you
Speaker 10: know what I mean? Timings everything though, when you do.
Speaker 4: I go from the airport, I almost just did the
Speaker 4: kid play because.
Speaker 7: It's just like.
Speaker 2: Coming.
Speaker 1: But then and then just remember.
Speaker 10: That and also to this thing. This thing has been
Speaker 10: so good it gets passed on. I was in Atlanta.
Speaker 10: I'm hanging out with a hurricane takes me to some
Speaker 10: some barbecue. We're out there and this middle aged black
Speaker 10: lady she's running around with this little girl. Grandma's have
Speaker 10: been about five six years old. So we're standing over
Speaker 10: there on the side and the little girl gets a
Speaker 10: look at me. She goes, oh, run all the way
Speaker 10: over to me, and I'm like, yeah, what's going on?
Speaker 10: She said, you you got better than that?
Speaker 1: She said, she said you got old.
Speaker 10: I said, I said, I got a whipping. I said,
Speaker 10: who gave me a whipping?
Speaker 1: Your pops? I said, six year old? No, she said,
Speaker 1: my Auntie don't work. She she watched that movie all
Speaker 1: the time.
Speaker 10: But but this is the gift that getting passed on,
Speaker 10: do you know what I mean? Older brothers to younger siblings,
Speaker 10: parents to their children. And so this is what we're
Speaker 10: a part of and hopefully this is what we will
Speaker 10: be celebrating this weekend. You know, come, come on, come on,
Speaker 10: children's free.
Speaker 3: So what are you doing this weekend for people that
Speaker 3: don't know, but break down what's happening?
Speaker 1: Yeah, go ahead, go ahead.
Speaker 8: Brooklyn Unity Fest and Old Bulls Boys and Girls High
Speaker 8: School or the Old High School. Brooklyn Unity Fest sound
Speaker 8: happening this Saturday, celebrating the thirty five years of House
Speaker 8: Party along with Kidden Play, is going to be.
Speaker 1: Force, is going to be.
Speaker 8: Little Ceas Evans is stopping through and a lot of surprises,
Speaker 8: a lot of local people performing as well, giving man
Speaker 8: and they wanted me to shout to stop the things.
Speaker 8: They wanted to thank Housing Works, the Empress Empire and
Speaker 8: the Brooklyn Nets for helping to give it back this Saturday.
Speaker 8: And for more information go to Brooklyn unity Fest dot
Speaker 8: com for info and you can watch it live stream.
Speaker 8: And we want to give a shout at also to
Speaker 8: mel and Vienna part of the Brooklyn unity.
Speaker 11: How streaming, Uh the impacted you'all eys with House Party
Speaker 11: being on streaming now, Like what's the positive effects and
Speaker 11: negati effects that you guys see?
Speaker 5: Then you just talking about streaming the positive.
Speaker 1: Not a fan music about.
Speaker 2: Like you can sing.
Speaker 6: It's no, honestly, it's a beautiful thing. It's a beautiful
Speaker 6: thing that you know, Uh that it transcends everything.
Speaker 2: You know. My brain is still caught up on the
Speaker 2: whole thing with you guys.
Speaker 6: You want being at Lisa, the whole thing that was
Speaker 6: that was a concept of mine, the whole thing. To
Speaker 6: bring that into prusition, oh yeahsa.
Speaker 8: Period, yes, to bring a Spanish girl to be We
Speaker 8: already had the song written already take you Home.
Speaker 2: No, I had.
Speaker 6: I wrote that song, and then I knew that there
Speaker 6: was no Hispanic type of hero nothing at that time.
Speaker 6: It's just menudo and the Hispanic community for me was
Speaker 6: just like I used to see Hispanish people. It's just
Speaker 6: light skinned black people. They were so engulfed in our community,
Speaker 6: you know.
Speaker 2: So when I see.
Speaker 6: That watch y'all lost thirty short though, it's just that
Speaker 6: a shame that they did a story that didn't show
Speaker 6: how Lisa came to be at all, you know, why
Speaker 6: there was no Hispanic type of influence out there at all.
Speaker 6: For me, I grew up with a lot of Hispanic
Speaker 6: people that were you know, from playing on the handbog chords,
Speaker 6: we played ball together. When there was always a dance crew,
Speaker 6: there was always a Hispanic brother in there. When there
Speaker 6: was a Hispanic crew, there's always black brother in there.
Speaker 6: So my you know, being in New York, the Hispanic
Speaker 6: population with us was like this melting pot, and I
Speaker 6: don't feel like it really showed that. It didn't showed
Speaker 6: that type of culmination on how Lisa was picked and
Speaker 6: why she was picking and how important she is to
Speaker 6: these young Hispanic girls. Before Jennifer Lopez, before expos, before
Speaker 6: all this was Lisa. But that was intentional because there
Speaker 6: was nothing out at that time. I would tease my
Speaker 6: friends about Yo Manudo and they would get mad, that's.
Speaker 2: My little sister. The Hispanic people that I've grown up.
Speaker 6: With were just like us and style, flavor and everything.
Speaker 7: So so it's even it's beyond safe to say there
Speaker 7: would be no Lisa Lisa without not just you picking her.
Speaker 5: The songs y'all wrote.
Speaker 1: We already had.
Speaker 6: We already had the sound. Now we're just looking for
Speaker 6: the right artists to put in it. You know, Be
Speaker 6: had that rating, we had all cried out bare Kenny,
Speaker 6: So we already had the sound the right artist. But
Speaker 6: once again, that lends to the question of why.
Speaker 2: To leave us out of it. It doesn't make sense
Speaker 2: of the move of the documentary.
Speaker 6: At one point, it was a great It was a
Speaker 6: great vehicle to be inspire other young girls on how
Speaker 6: she came to be for real, you know.
Speaker 2: And that's why, you know what.
Speaker 10: I don't like And I know you guys have these
Speaker 10: these arguments in these discs cushion sometimes. Uh and it
Speaker 10: seems to be a hot topic these days, talking about
Speaker 10: black and latinos and their particular contributions to hip hop
Speaker 10: and stuff like that. Yeah, that and and I'm one
Speaker 10: of those people like I agree with with B one
Speaker 10: hundred percent like that.
Speaker 1: And that's what I think.
Speaker 10: That's what made the music resonate when it did, because
Speaker 10: these are coming out of real relationships. I mean, you
Speaker 10: know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I grew up with it.
Speaker 10: I grew up with a gang of Latinos just like
Speaker 10: black people. I'm half white, nobody had to be one
Speaker 10: particular thing. People were examining your psyche and your soul.
Speaker 10: That's that's what it was about. Can you dance? Can
Speaker 10: you rap? Can you sing? And and and and we
Speaker 10: were living side by side with each other. So yeah,
Speaker 10: that that had been a much more interesting story. And
Speaker 10: I know that's what the real story is, you know,
Speaker 10: I know, I know, I know black, black and brown
Speaker 10: people build hip hop. I know it because I was there,
Speaker 10: So I'm always I'm interested in that.
Speaker 1: I'm just like, what are we doing? Who's who? Who's poisoning?
Speaker 1: We've built all of this to this point.
Speaker 10: And and and I don't know what I don't I
Speaker 10: don't get that.
Speaker 1: And yeah, and I would appreciate it.
Speaker 5: Y'all had all of those records done already.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, all of them had head came late. That
Speaker 2: was on the second album. But we had Taken Home.
Speaker 2: I had taken Home and can you feel to be okay?
Speaker 6: We had that before we had the artists because in
Speaker 6: the sound.
Speaker 2: I knew what I but I wanted.
Speaker 6: I knew that, you know, I wanted a Hispanic young
Speaker 6: lady who echoed New York, you know, because addition to
Speaker 6: quite a few people, and I.
Speaker 2: Was like nah, nah no.
Speaker 6: And then Mike from Culture you know, he rang my
Speaker 6: bell one day and said, be man, I heard you're
Speaker 6: looking for a Hispanic young lady that could sing. You know,
Speaker 6: I think I got this girl. And he said, and
Speaker 6: you know, I'm thinking, maybe, you know, if you like her,
Speaker 6: maybe we could like be like a group.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 6: I got out, you know, out Yeah, no, Al and
Speaker 6: me and called Cult Jam. Now the deal is, I
Speaker 6: never was going to use the group called Cult Jam,
Speaker 6: but our call manager said, well, how about if it works,
Speaker 6: we use you know, Lisa and Cult Jam. And he
Speaker 6: came up with the name, how about we call Lisa Lisa?
Speaker 6: And I went nuts.
Speaker 2: Who he came up with that name? We got out
Speaker 2: the call we started south Side and said it sounds
Speaker 2: so Spanish like Lisa, Lisa Lisa.
Speaker 4: And it was right.
Speaker 6: It was perfect, And that's what you want a lot
Speaker 6: of people lost track of what artist development is because
Speaker 6: what would happened. It was intentional that when people went
Speaker 6: to the clubs. Because I remember that the record came on
Speaker 6: the Bentley's, I couldn't believe it. I mean, you know,
Speaker 6: people would say, yo play that Lisa Lisa record and
Speaker 6: that's what you want. They wouldn't even say, yo play
Speaker 6: take you Home records and then identify the brand and
Speaker 6: you know, be fine as legit.
Speaker 1: You know he really does.
Speaker 10: There's there's history because he's still they're using the word Hispanic.
Speaker 9: They came up with I wonder if I take You Home?
Speaker 4: Right, and the song was already done.
Speaker 8: He was so adamant that it must be a Latino
Speaker 8: girl to do it. So yeah, full Force. It wasn't
Speaker 8: for full Force. There wouldn't be no least Lisa, but
Speaker 8: be right from the jump. Knew that he wanted girl.
Speaker 10: And look, I think I don't think Full Force gets
Speaker 10: enough credit. And this look, like I said, this stuff
Speaker 10: comes organically, the list of Lisa vibe. It's organic. Look
Speaker 10: at another big hit they had, Thanks for My Child
Speaker 10: ryl Pepsi Riley. You remember how big that record was.
Speaker 10: Who makes no record with with a girl they're about
Speaker 10: to have a baby. This is before Brenda got a baby.
Speaker 10: All this and that they they they're writing records, even
Speaker 10: slow jams that were speaking to to the streets. They
Speaker 10: ran slow jams. So I'm always I'm always the biggest
Speaker 10: Full Force fan.
Speaker 1: Their versatility was was incredible.
Speaker 10: They're working with Backstreet, They're working with a man the Fox.
Speaker 4: White people liked.
Speaker 3: Or did somebody ever get y'all? Did y'all get everything?
Speaker 3: With all the songs that they written? He just named
Speaker 3: a couple of them. Did y'all get what you're supposed
Speaker 3: to get?
Speaker 2: Pretty much? It's still coming yad.
Speaker 9: Members and I think we got every.
Speaker 6: No, he said, yeah, no, no, no. When when doing
Speaker 6: rock sand Roxanne doing that? You know when you deal
Speaker 6: with independent labels, you know how that.
Speaker 5: Damn you tfo RO.
Speaker 9: That was our first production for RO.
Speaker 1: And we was on that same label. To select that
Speaker 1: means sometimes they select when they paid you the record,
Speaker 1: select you not to.
Speaker 2: That's what That's my favorite.
Speaker 6: But there's always more to that, you know, like basketball,
Speaker 6: we cover a basketball. I'm sure they're still so critician.
Speaker 6: We should get from that too. That was like the
Speaker 6: first first.
Speaker 9: Time, like you know, you talked about the movie.
Speaker 8: The movie left out a song the Lisa Lisa movie,
Speaker 8: which we had nothing to do with, but they left
Speaker 8: out the song. They didn't represent all cried out in there.
Speaker 8: Now we did a duet with Lisa on that Full Force,
Speaker 8: but they could have even did the first verse or
Speaker 8: something cried out, but all cried Out.
Speaker 9: Was mysterically, mysteriously not in the movie.
Speaker 6: And hol was the one that, yeah, that's a true story,
Speaker 6: that's a standard.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 6: So once we had Lisa, it was like, okay, cool,
Speaker 6: we started zeroing internet. So I even told I said,
Speaker 6: some of these songs you're going to be doing thirty
Speaker 6: forty years from now, all cry Out, you know when
Speaker 6: our first time when even Alloyd did it over but
Speaker 6: I heard mariahs saying it.
Speaker 2: It was Mariah's favorite song, you know.
Speaker 6: So you know, all the more reason why when we
Speaker 6: do our documentary, we will braatically include Lisa, everybody who
Speaker 6: impacted our lives, y'all. Everything, it's all connected.
Speaker 3: Fight because y'all got so many different temperament personality, who wins.
Speaker 6: Well, the deal is, it never got physical, you know,
Speaker 6: as we became adults, you know. But yeah, usually it's
Speaker 6: bump aheads with me.
Speaker 2: Yeah and you know something. But here's the deal.
Speaker 6: I'mber me and b last time we had a knockdown argument,
Speaker 6: back and forth everything, and I said, okay, I'm like
Speaker 6: this after that, Okay, cool. Yeah, I'm the type of okay, okay, y'all.
Speaker 6: After that, I'm like, okay, I'm going to I hot be.
Speaker 6: I got you who's buying? Because you know that's me.
Speaker 6: I don't hang on nothing.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 6: That's how it's supposed to be, you know, because at
Speaker 6: the end of the day, we're on three mamas. We're
Speaker 6: coming together for a mom and everything that accounts.
Speaker 10: Let's go to the gym, guys, we're still one time.
Speaker 1: This is back in the days.
Speaker 10: So one time me and play almost had like a
Speaker 10: like a like a fistfight, like.
Speaker 1: Like in public, you know what I mean? Which which
Speaker 1: which is what never happened. So we're flying in from somewhere.
Speaker 1: I think we're flying in.
Speaker 10: From the West coast, and we come in into you know,
Speaker 10: Newark back in the days before they fixed it up.
Speaker 1: It was mad junkie or whatever. I don't know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, but I don't know it was.
Speaker 1: It was something like really really stupid.
Speaker 10: I think we had just gotten off a tour, so
Speaker 10: we've been up on under each other for weeks on end.
Speaker 10: And but the funny part was, you know, we actually
Speaker 10: got up into each other's face and blah blahlah, the
Speaker 10: road manager has to you know, kind of break us apart.
Speaker 10: But the funny part was, you know where by the
Speaker 10: baggage clean and then you.
Speaker 1: Can see the fans.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, didn't playing.
Speaker 10: So yeah, yeah, those those times are rare because you know,
Speaker 10: those those are these are the people that that you
Speaker 10: go to war with, you know, once again, shout out
Speaker 10: to play.
Speaker 7: I wonder how the films impacted how people percee eved
Speaker 7: y'all musical legacy, Like do they know y'all more from
Speaker 7: the films and don't really know how.
Speaker 6: As producers with with the younger jener younger j Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 6: sometimes they're always surprised because when you start writing off
Speaker 6: certain songs and certain things that we've done, you know,
Speaker 6: they're very surprised. But that's the deal with I mean,
Speaker 6: House Party gave us a different kind of life, you know.
Speaker 6: I mean up to this day, all of the HBCU colleges,
Speaker 6: the bands and hearing them play like my type of
Speaker 6: hype you know, and it's.
Speaker 2: So I mean, it's just beyond humbling.
Speaker 13: Yeah, I mean, it's when we had y'all on wild'n Out, Yo,
Speaker 13: everybody was hype. I remember that, Like man when y'all came.
Speaker 13: That was like one of the the most fun episodes
Speaker 13: of the of the season. The crowd that Nick first
Speaker 13: of all, Nick loves Nick's love for y'all was like crazy.
Speaker 13: Then me remember me and Pretty V We did the
Speaker 13: dance t Sha and AJ did.
Speaker 7: We did, Man, it was.
Speaker 13: Just it was amazing doing that. We were so honored
Speaker 13: to have y'all on.
Speaker 9: And it was full force on the Red Team.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we want.
Speaker 9: We can't freaking in.
Speaker 1: About that.
Speaker 5: Yeah we want.
Speaker 1: Damn it. You did.
Speaker 10: Whenever we do those like hip hop game shows, I'm like,
Speaker 10: I overthink it, you know, you know what I mean,
Speaker 10: so that you answer something to like hip.
Speaker 1: Hop squares or you know what I mean. Whenever I
Speaker 1: go on those things, I'm just thinking too much. We did.
Speaker 10: We did Celebrity Family Feud a couple of years ago
Speaker 10: with with Salt and Pepper, with Salt and Pepper can't play,
Speaker 10: and all I'm thinking is just don't fuck it.
Speaker 2: Off, you know what I mean.
Speaker 10: And then then then the Salt picks me to go
Speaker 10: to do the final whatever like that. Yeah, yeah, the
Speaker 10: rapid fire whatever, and all you're thinking is, oh God,
Speaker 10: I got it, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: I got I gotta get it.
Speaker 10: I gotta get to two hundred, you know what I mean,
Speaker 10: which which we did, and then after that I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 10: but but you know, everything gets magnified and I think
Speaker 10: you can overthink it.
Speaker 13: Did anybody ever tell you look like Michael John White? Yeah,
Speaker 13: Michael John White looks like you.
Speaker 2: Just swear, that's my man.
Speaker 8: You know how did Michael joh White and his wife
Speaker 8: dress up one Halloween?
Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah, they one.
Speaker 6: They won many many Halloween parties. He was dressed up
Speaker 6: as me with a ripped shirt headband. His wife ad
Speaker 6: dressed up ast and he won many many things.
Speaker 2: And even.
Speaker 5: Yeah, look he.
Speaker 4: Looks like you.
Speaker 1: That is man.
Speaker 4: Appreciate your brothers.
Speaker 1: It's always funny you shout out shout somebody.
Speaker 2: Well, let me just say this before we go.
Speaker 6: All the acts that we've produced and worked with, from Lisa,
Speaker 6: even U, t Fo Shell, Pepsi, Riley, we.
Speaker 2: Still love all of them.
Speaker 6: You know that little Lisa movie thing has nothing to
Speaker 6: do with how much we love them still, you know, right, I.
Speaker 7: Mean a little little little Lisa movie. You know, the
Speaker 7: Black Persons.
Speaker 6: Dealer is not it's still loving. I mean I mean
Speaker 6: that because I'm the type of person I'm not going
Speaker 6: to say it.
Speaker 2: I don't mean it, And I.
Speaker 6: Would just like to mention all love to all our
Speaker 6: families and mothers, y'alls, including my mom. She's still hanging
Speaker 6: in there strong, but you know, we rally around her
Speaker 6: and then we have a We're finally getting around to
Speaker 6: doing our podcast also House of Soul.
Speaker 2: It's going to be fun.
Speaker 6: I'm finally getting around to do my book. It's going
Speaker 6: to be called Priceless Private Moments. In time, you'll get
Speaker 6: the periorities at kingminded dot org. I'm going to talk
Speaker 6: about certain things that you may see and not seeing
Speaker 6: a podcast, certain things in the pocket you may not seeing.
Speaker 1: The book.
Speaker 6: My Private Times is beating through cancers in the streets
Speaker 6: of bes Flatbush with doctor Sebby, with Queen a Fool,
Speaker 6: Michael Jordan's certain things that were never shared before.
Speaker 2: Yeah really, yeah, that's family of it.
Speaker 5: This weekend.
Speaker 6: Yeah, she married my my young my uncle, my mother's
Speaker 6: younger brother. So one Kingmidi dot org. That's the site
Speaker 6: for the preorders, y'all.
Speaker 8: Come on, and recently we're having the Criterion Collection is
Speaker 8: doing a house party. Uh, they're doing a lot of extras.
Speaker 8: We got together that's going to add to it. Then
Speaker 8: extra a reissue of House Party, a lot of different
Speaker 8: things in it.
Speaker 14: And we did a reunion, a Zoom reunion of Didn't Play,
Speaker 14: Wool Force, Cisha Campbell, A j and down Till Mitchell
Speaker 14: on there, which was really really fun.
Speaker 9: That was just a few days ago.
Speaker 8: And I just want to give a shout out real
Speaker 8: quick too, because for all these years, I just never
Speaker 8: thought Hitman Howie T never got the never got the
Speaker 8: true credit he has.
Speaker 9: He's a great producer.
Speaker 8: But one of our first big hit records is Full
Speaker 8: Force was a song called Ali I Want You Just
Speaker 8: for Me, which was written and produced by Full Force
Speaker 8: and Hitman Howie Tea.
Speaker 9: I always want that out there because Howie.
Speaker 6: T, Hitman, Hitman Howie Tea and Herbie Lovebug to Me
Speaker 6: are two of the most unsung hip hop producers period.
Speaker 1: I agree.
Speaker 10: Big shout out to Herbie, big shout out to play,
Speaker 10: big shout out to my man on the West Coast.
Speaker 10: My man Dante had Golden Artists Entertainment. Uh, it's it's
Speaker 10: always great to come back to New York. We don't
Speaker 10: get to come here often enough. One of my daughters
Speaker 10: still lives here, holding it down in Brooklyn. And you
Speaker 10: know what, I follow you guys. You know the breakfast
Speaker 10: club is important.
Speaker 1: I like you. I know when you'll go through your
Speaker 1: little kerfuffles.
Speaker 10: You know what's going to happen. It don't matter if
Speaker 10: it and going through something or whatever like that. But
Speaker 10: one of the things I've been noticing lately is you
Speaker 10: guys always seem to stay the course. And there's some
Speaker 10: days when things look kind of cloudy or kind of
Speaker 10: ad or things that y'all might not be able to
Speaker 10: recover for recover from. Excuse me, but I don't know what.
Speaker 10: I don't know what that is. Maybe that's the bond
Speaker 10: you guys have to gather, the chemistry, the chemistry absolutely,
Speaker 10: but but but you know what y'all, y'all never seem
Speaker 10: to get get upset or perturbed by whatever that initial
Speaker 10: wave is because everybody coming at you for whatever particular reason.
Speaker 1: I like that.
Speaker 10: That's slow. That's slow and steady, everybody. That's why, I
Speaker 10: don't think.
Speaker 2: And he gets enough credit with his sense of humor.
Speaker 6: You could take it, man taking it.
Speaker 4: I don't know what it is. And I'll be honest,
Speaker 4: I've been at first. I couldn't pause, right, I don't know.
Speaker 5: But a few golf bodies.
Speaker 3: But you gotta realize what you're securing yourself, because I
Speaker 3: remember the first one we started working with each other.
Speaker 4: It wasn't funny. It wasn't funny at me. At first.
Speaker 3: It was funny, but it was one of those things
Speaker 3: like it's funny here, but I don't want to aybody
Speaker 3: else to hear that for you, and you start feeling
Speaker 3: the way, and then when you work with him, he
Speaker 3: doesn't stop.
Speaker 4: He keeps pounding.
Speaker 13: Yeah, because he's he's a catcher too, you know, answer
Speaker 13: your question.
Speaker 4: I love these groups. I love these people. I think
Speaker 4: we want the best for each other.
Speaker 2: In the chemistry, I mean seamlessly, I give all credit.
Speaker 5: I feel like God is engineering all of this.
Speaker 6: And the last thing I just want to say that
Speaker 6: nobody knows, is that the last time we was here,
Speaker 6: saying this last time we was here.
Speaker 2: The energy was so good.
Speaker 6: It was just so because we didn't know what to expect,
Speaker 6: you know, the energy was so so positive, and we
Speaker 6: loved y'all for this man. And when we left here
Speaker 6: we felt so good. We went to see my father,
Speaker 6: who had Parkinson's at that time, and that was the
Speaker 6: last time all three of us saw him together. And
Speaker 6: every time but I see it, and when I see
Speaker 6: you guys, I think my father empty light was the
Speaker 6: first person to work no empty light. My father was
Speaker 6: the first person to work with empty light. When she
Speaker 6: was younger, Yeah, she always talked about that. So every
Speaker 6: time I see you guys, every time, and I watch
Speaker 6: you guys all the time, and every time I see like,
Speaker 6: I always.
Speaker 2: Think my father.
Speaker 3: Man, I always got you guys in a positive thank you.
Speaker 8: And I just want to say I was born in the
Speaker 8: same Thomas Virgin Allen's and Charlemagne also comes from one
Speaker 8: of the islands Rikers.
Speaker 1: Okay, he goes back all the time.
Speaker 4: I appreciate you, you know you.
Speaker 3: One time it was like I need help with look,
Speaker 3: I said, if I have to buy your tickets for you, like,
Speaker 3: I love you man.
Speaker 9: Thanks.
Speaker 4: It's the breakfast Club, Good morning.
Speaker 1: Every day. The Breakfast Club.
Speaker 2: You're finished for y'all dumb