WEBVTT - INTERVIEW: Christopher 'Kid' Reid & Full Force Talk 'House Party' Legacy, Brooklyn Unity Fest + More 0:00:01.520 --> 0:00:05.199 Every day a week. Click your ass up the Breakfast Club. 0:00:05.440 --> 0:00:06.720 Finish for y'all mourning. 0:00:06.760 --> 0:00:10.639 Everybody's thej Envy Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne the Guy. 0:00:10.720 --> 0:00:13.120 We are the Breakfast Club. We got some special guest. 0:00:12.960 --> 0:00:14.160 In the belt Man Legends. 0:00:14.160 --> 0:00:14.400 Man. 0:00:14.440 --> 0:00:16.360 We have the legendary kid from Kidding. 0:00:16.200 --> 0:00:21.919 Play and we have welcome fellas, some legends in. 0:00:21.920 --> 0:00:26.400 The game killing good wait, chilling. 0:00:27.600 --> 0:00:32.680 That's right, y'all celebrating so much Man thirty fifth anniversary 0:00:32.680 --> 0:00:35.800 a house party, and y'all are being inducted into the 0:00:35.880 --> 0:00:37.120 National Hip Hop Museum. 0:00:37.200 --> 0:00:38.000 Kidding Play. 0:00:37.960 --> 0:00:41.200 Yeah, Wow, yeahs in full force. 0:00:41.240 --> 0:00:42.200 You're still getting money. 0:00:42.400 --> 0:00:43.080 Yeah, you. 0:00:45.080 --> 0:00:47.879 Split this six ways because the three of us are 0:00:47.880 --> 0:00:50.960 the full force brothers, Paul Anthony b Fine, then we 0:00:51.000 --> 0:00:53.680 have our three cousins, Baby, Jerry and Kurt. 0:00:54.680 --> 0:00:56.360 Six way collective, full. 0:00:56.160 --> 0:00:59.200 Force except house party royalties except house party. 0:00:59.440 --> 0:01:03.000 Yes, Oh, y'all don't get the three of us is 0:01:03.040 --> 0:01:04.360 just the three of us, and we don't split it 0:01:04.400 --> 0:01:07.400 six My type of hype the song. 0:01:07.240 --> 0:01:10.640 And gotch it's the lines. 0:01:10.680 --> 0:01:12.640 What y'all look younger? Now, y'all did a house party. 0:01:12.640 --> 0:01:13.559 I can't believe they tried. 0:01:13.440 --> 0:01:15.120 To make believe you'll. 0:01:17.520 --> 0:01:21.959 Jesus, I understand that the cafeteria, but you know what, 0:01:22.200 --> 0:01:24.360 in a weird way, it kind of worked. I mean 0:01:24.400 --> 0:01:27.400 the whole movie was kind of over the top, you know, 0:01:27.600 --> 0:01:32.080 all that all that colors. So yeah, I mean, I 0:01:32.120 --> 0:01:35.720 hear more about that now than we did then. People 0:01:35.720 --> 0:01:37.440 weren't really complaining about it, or. 0:01:37.440 --> 0:01:40.160 You didn't noticing it as much, you know what I mean. 0:01:40.160 --> 0:01:42.679 As you guys are celebrating this anniversary, what are some 0:01:42.680 --> 0:01:44.360 of the things that you instantly think back to, because 0:01:44.360 --> 0:01:46.640 I being on set probably was just like an experience. 0:01:47.000 --> 0:01:49.400 But before you're into that house play doings player. 0:01:49.800 --> 0:01:56.040 Uh, they had some how would we classify? Yeah, yeah, 0:01:56.120 --> 0:02:00.480 he had some accommodation difficulties this morning, so shout out 0:02:00.480 --> 0:02:01.560 to play hotel. 0:02:01.720 --> 0:02:05.560 He's here in Spirit. Yeah, his hotel was okay. 0:02:05.720 --> 0:02:07.520 Well, don't give the name in a hotel, but I 0:02:07.520 --> 0:02:12.680 think you told me that there was some here. 0:02:17.440 --> 0:02:18.440 I just saw the tell. 0:02:21.520 --> 0:02:22.000 The airport. 0:02:22.320 --> 0:02:24.440 Then you really have hotel accommodation issues or that was 0:02:24.440 --> 0:02:27.000 a joke play, I. 0:02:27.040 --> 0:02:28.000 Was joking with the mouse. 0:02:28.840 --> 0:02:30.239 I don't know that part is that part? 0:02:30.360 --> 0:02:32.880 That part is real, you know, but you know, I know, 0:02:33.639 --> 0:02:35.400 you know, we all go back a little wat here so, 0:02:35.440 --> 0:02:36.880 but he's definitely. 0:02:36.520 --> 0:02:37.360 A hearing spirit. 0:02:37.440 --> 0:02:44.360 But to your to your question, I guess with each anniversary, 0:02:44.520 --> 0:02:47.720 each milestone, because you get to like it was ten 0:02:48.520 --> 0:02:52.400 twenty twenty five, we're actually at thirty five. Is kind 0:02:52.440 --> 0:02:55.040 of a kind of a bug out, and now you're 0:02:55.080 --> 0:02:56.920 at the point where, okay, well. 0:02:57.320 --> 0:03:00.480 Who's still here? You know what I mean? 0:03:01.000 --> 0:03:04.040 I lost, We didn't lost some of the soldiers and whatnot. 0:03:04.960 --> 0:03:08.160 But I think, but to your point, a lot of 0:03:08.160 --> 0:03:09.959 it and we were talking about this the other guy 0:03:10.160 --> 0:03:12.799 or the other day. Is it's stuff like that happened 0:03:12.840 --> 0:03:15.000 on set. I mean, for a lot of us, it 0:03:15.080 --> 0:03:17.680 was our first film. We wasn't making a lot of money. 0:03:17.680 --> 0:03:19.400 We didn't have a lot of money then or whatever. 0:03:19.520 --> 0:03:22.000 But it was kind of the joy and the camaraderie 0:03:22.000 --> 0:03:25.639 of of doing it and it stood to this day, 0:03:25.639 --> 0:03:26.079 which is. 0:03:26.040 --> 0:03:27.799 A how did that for? 0:03:27.960 --> 0:03:30.360 How did it come together? How did the whole house 0:03:30.400 --> 0:03:32.600 party didn't come together? Y'all were young, y'all were fresh 0:03:32.680 --> 0:03:33.440 that were just kicking off. 0:03:33.639 --> 0:03:34.680 How did they decide we're going. 0:03:34.680 --> 0:03:37.160 To do a movie based on y'all? And how much 0:03:37.200 --> 0:03:39.280 did y'all get paid back then? I'm just kidding well, well, 0:03:39.360 --> 0:03:41.280 DJ and V. You you know how hot kidd and 0:03:41.320 --> 0:03:43.760 play was in the city at that time. Okay, we were, 0:03:44.360 --> 0:03:48.160 but no, we were. We were playing out were hot, 0:03:48.160 --> 0:03:48.680 and not. 0:03:48.680 --> 0:03:51.960 Just just the music, but the videos were really starting 0:03:51.960 --> 0:03:54.960 the bus and our look and sound and vibe. So 0:03:55.040 --> 0:03:58.880 Rezzie had Linda director, one of the producers, used to uh, 0:03:59.360 --> 0:04:02.160 it was his idea. It was his Harvard thesis that 0:04:02.200 --> 0:04:06.600 he turned into a full length feature script, and he 0:04:06.640 --> 0:04:08.880 would occasionally step to us in the clubs because he 0:04:08.920 --> 0:04:11.240 wanted us to do our music. He wanted to do 0:04:11.280 --> 0:04:14.240 our music videos. But we were cool on that. We 0:04:14.320 --> 0:04:17.200 had somebody for that at the time. Then he started 0:04:17.200 --> 0:04:21.359 pushing the script. I read the script. We read the script, 0:04:21.640 --> 0:04:23.720 and it was the first thing that we had gotten 0:04:23.720 --> 0:04:26.320 that had been submitted to us that was really it 0:04:26.360 --> 0:04:29.000 was close. You know, it wasn't one hundred percent, but 0:04:29.040 --> 0:04:32.040 I felt like it was like seventy seventy five, and 0:04:32.080 --> 0:04:33.880 I was like, I thought we could get at the 0:04:33.880 --> 0:04:36.599 rest of the way. And you know, that's the cliff 0:04:36.640 --> 0:04:40.240 notes version. And I think there's a famous story going 0:04:40.279 --> 0:04:42.440 on at that time where it could have been us, 0:04:42.520 --> 0:04:46.440 or it could have been fresh Prince and jazzy Jeff Right. 0:04:47.040 --> 0:04:49.680 Yeah, this is something. There's something to that. 0:04:49.960 --> 0:04:52.280 I feel like y'all predated him just a little bit though, right. 0:04:52.440 --> 0:04:54.560 Not about the same time, though, Charlottage. If you think 0:04:54.560 --> 0:04:56.760 about it, you're talking about eighty seven, eighty eight. Matter 0:04:56.760 --> 0:05:00.200 of fact, Willing then blew up nationally, I think a 0:05:00.200 --> 0:05:01.080 little bit ahead of us. 0:05:01.720 --> 0:05:04.000 Remember they had the party lines and all that kind 0:05:04.000 --> 0:05:04.359 of stuff. 0:05:04.360 --> 0:05:08.080 So yeah, but yeah, definitely, and so we're definitely that 0:05:08.120 --> 0:05:11.920 same era. And guess what, to this day, I'm sure 0:05:11.920 --> 0:05:13.920 they would have did a great job, you know what 0:05:13.960 --> 0:05:14.279 I mean. 0:05:14.760 --> 0:05:18.360 I can't see nah, I mean, I mean, that's kind 0:05:18.360 --> 0:05:19.640 of crazy to say that. In hindsight, I. 0:05:19.560 --> 0:05:20.840 Guess, but I just can't see it. 0:05:21.200 --> 0:05:23.080 The chemistry was crazy. We talked about that. 0:05:23.200 --> 0:05:26.560 We did an online tribute to see a j from 0:05:26.600 --> 0:05:29.120 Africa and t Sha and everybody, and what we talked 0:05:29.160 --> 0:05:32.600 about was the seasoning of the little things that that 0:05:33.040 --> 0:05:35.840 makes it really whole and the chemistry that we all had, 0:05:35.880 --> 0:05:39.640 and everybody spoke of, you know, their parts, like and 0:05:40.000 --> 0:05:43.920 all of us didn't know everybody's journey. Like we started 0:05:44.000 --> 0:05:47.000 asking t Sha, so, teacher, how did you hook up? 0:05:47.040 --> 0:05:49.760 And they was like school days and Jackson, well, what 0:05:49.839 --> 0:05:53.360 made y'all do that dancing? And she said, I didn't 0:05:53.360 --> 0:05:56.159 do that. Be Agent choreographed the whole thing. And then 0:05:56.839 --> 0:05:58.360 it was just so much thing that we were just 0:05:58.839 --> 0:06:01.640 finding out, you know. So to your point, that's in chemistry. 0:06:02.120 --> 0:06:06.640 Yeah, and also to Reggie Huddling, Uh, he had the 0:06:06.720 --> 0:06:12.000 benefit of leaning on all our individual talents. 0:06:12.080 --> 0:06:13.640 You know what I mean. You know that that T 0:06:13.920 --> 0:06:15.320 and AJ could just come up. 0:06:15.240 --> 0:06:17.919 With a you know, with a dance battle routine like 0:06:18.000 --> 0:06:20.440 that to go up against you know, the dances that 0:06:20.520 --> 0:06:20.880 Play and. 0:06:20.839 --> 0:06:21.480 I were doing. 0:06:21.600 --> 0:06:24.600 You know that doesn't that doesn't necessarily come in the package. 0:06:24.960 --> 0:06:28.520 You know, you need you need you need a battle rap. Well, 0:06:28.680 --> 0:06:31.040 you know, Kid and Play can provide that. You need 0:06:31.040 --> 0:06:33.279 a big song like ain't my type of hype for 0:06:33.400 --> 0:06:36.360 the dance battle, Well for us can provide that. 0:06:36.880 --> 0:06:37.000 Uh. 0:06:37.240 --> 0:06:40.880 So you know, I think you know, he definitely benefited. 0:06:40.360 --> 0:06:43.920 From our some of our superpowers that we kind of 0:06:44.680 --> 0:06:47.720 brought to the table. But like I said, being so young, 0:06:47.760 --> 0:06:51.159 we were just like you know, we weren't like you know, uh, 0:06:51.600 --> 0:06:54.479 being asked to do something extra. Wasn't like yo, yo, 0:06:54.560 --> 0:06:57.200 I need to get let's just do it. Let's do it, 0:06:57.560 --> 0:06:59.400 and you know, we'll see at the top. 0:06:59.680 --> 0:07:03.279 You know, the original script with me and my brother's 0:07:03.320 --> 0:07:06.800 the original script when Reggie wrote it. It had full 0:07:06.920 --> 0:07:10.560 Force described in the script as descriptions. 0:07:10.840 --> 0:07:11.760 We weren't even cast. 0:07:11.800 --> 0:07:15.440 Then it said something that kidn't play or accosted by 0:07:16.000 --> 0:07:17.200 droopy Jerry Curroll. 0:07:17.280 --> 0:07:19.800 Guys were great physiqus somebody like full force. 0:07:19.960 --> 0:07:21.960 That was literally in the scriptscription. 0:07:22.600 --> 0:07:25.720 So Robert Ford, who used to co produce our music 0:07:25.800 --> 0:07:28.280 with us, it was a good firm of Reggie, said, Reggie, 0:07:28.320 --> 0:07:31.000 why didn't you just get full force? And then that's 0:07:31.000 --> 0:07:32.840 when he made a phone call to my brother Paul. 0:07:33.160 --> 0:07:35.440 The three of us got together. Now in the script, 0:07:35.560 --> 0:07:37.160 I think we were the first ones to start bum 0:07:37.280 --> 0:07:40.880 rushing the script, the original script. After we did the tablew'd, 0:07:40.920 --> 0:07:42.600 I told my brothers and said, man, we're just like 0:07:42.680 --> 0:07:46.200 bullies with no personalities in this. Listen, my brothers was 0:07:46.240 --> 0:07:49.280 supposed to be pee Wee. I said, Pubby pee Wee, 0:07:49.440 --> 0:07:50.440 you're the your stab. 0:07:50.880 --> 0:07:52.960 Now talk like this throughout the whole movie, you know, 0:07:53.080 --> 0:07:57.320 kicking some fucking ass. And then we just create our 0:07:57.360 --> 0:08:00.280 own roles and we created our own scenes, and then 0:08:00.280 --> 0:08:02.280 we showed Reggie and Warrington huddling. 0:08:02.640 --> 0:08:03.200 They came to. 0:08:03.120 --> 0:08:05.360 See the three of us do our things with blood 0:08:05.360 --> 0:08:08.120 brothers anyway, so our chemistry is great. And Warrington as 0:08:08.160 --> 0:08:10.600 soon as he saw did Warrington Hudland say keep it? 0:08:10.920 --> 0:08:13.280 And Reggie Hudland said, you heard my brother keep it? 0:08:13.720 --> 0:08:17.160 And so it wasn't it wasn't no kick your hand, 0:08:17.320 --> 0:08:17.760 there wasn't. 0:08:17.760 --> 0:08:25.000 No, it's not like you should have got. 0:08:26.240 --> 0:08:28.320 You noticed. Man said that randomly for no reason. 0:08:29.640 --> 0:08:30.920 I heard, no reason. 0:08:32.040 --> 0:08:35.199 That happens in the street. That happens everywhere. People that 0:08:36.640 --> 0:08:37.080 all the time. 0:08:37.200 --> 0:08:38.720 Sometimes I say it before they say it. 0:08:38.840 --> 0:08:41.800 Just and on the set, Martin was like a little 0:08:41.800 --> 0:08:45.360 brother everybody. And the best word that describes that whole 0:08:45.880 --> 0:08:50.760 experience was unity. Your smooth segue into while we're here. 0:08:51.240 --> 0:08:53.600 Yeah, So wait a minute, who wrote the jail house rap? 0:08:53.640 --> 0:08:57.320 Because you Reggie? Okay, all right, I'm like, ain't no 0:08:57.320 --> 0:08:58.040 way Reggie wrote that. 0:08:58.640 --> 0:09:01.960 No, no, but this typically, like I said, Reggie would 0:09:01.960 --> 0:09:05.280 come to you, uh, the night before or two nights 0:09:05.280 --> 0:09:06.040 before and say. 0:09:05.920 --> 0:09:08.000 Hey man, we need a rap in the in the jail. 0:09:09.160 --> 0:09:12.000 M You know what I'm saying. You gotta write a 0:09:12.080 --> 0:09:12.839 rap in the jail. 0:09:13.720 --> 0:09:16.320 Herbie did a little beat you know when he said, Yo, 0:09:16.400 --> 0:09:18.480 we need a we need a rap battle. 0:09:18.760 --> 0:09:21.640 Trust me, all that stuff wasn't in the original. But 0:09:21.840 --> 0:09:22.360 it wasn't. 0:09:22.640 --> 0:09:25.560 But but at his credit though no, he recognized it. 0:09:25.600 --> 0:09:27.439 So by the time we into the movie. Now we 0:09:27.520 --> 0:09:30.080 a few weeks into the movie and he's seeing really 0:09:30.120 --> 0:09:32.240 who he's working with. He's like, man, I ain't nothing. 0:09:32.280 --> 0:09:34.719 I can't throw these dudes. These young as is down 0:09:34.760 --> 0:09:37.560 for whatever. Yo, we need a battle rap Okay. So 0:09:37.679 --> 0:09:40.040 that means I have to write it and play gotta 0:09:40.120 --> 0:09:43.320 do excuse me, I have to write it. Play has 0:09:43.320 --> 0:09:46.320 to perform it. Herbie got to do do the beat 0:09:46.440 --> 0:09:48.600 within a within a couple of days. 0:09:48.920 --> 0:09:50.920 So you know, I mean when you look at it now, 0:09:50.960 --> 0:09:51.439 I mean. 0:09:51.679 --> 0:09:54.520 To your to your point, just a lot of times 0:09:54.520 --> 0:09:56.160 people would have been like, all right, well you know 0:09:56.400 --> 0:10:00.240 that's that's that that didn't come with the original, right, 0:10:00.280 --> 0:10:01.679 you know what I mean. But that's just not what 0:10:01.720 --> 0:10:04.560 the mentality was back then. The mentality was like, let's go, 0:10:04.720 --> 0:10:06.120 let's let's just do it. 0:10:06.720 --> 0:10:09.160 I was in here with murderer, murderers and stranglers, you 0:10:09.200 --> 0:10:10.920 got it, just a bunch of romp Wranglers. 0:10:14.160 --> 0:10:15.920 That's wophobia was hilarious. 0:10:16.040 --> 0:10:21.560 Yeah, I will say this that I will say this. 0:10:22.200 --> 0:10:22.720 He got. 0:10:25.200 --> 0:10:26.200 Hilarious when you're. 0:10:26.679 --> 0:10:29.520 I'll say this. The jail rap has not aged. 0:10:29.600 --> 0:10:34.559 Well, wait till the point where one time I was watching, 0:10:34.760 --> 0:10:37.240 I was flipping and I see House Party on v 0:10:37.440 --> 0:10:39.800 H one, and he got to the point where the 0:10:39.880 --> 0:10:41.120 jail rap is supposed. 0:10:40.840 --> 0:10:45.280 To come out. Cut that bitch out. 0:10:45.400 --> 0:10:48.119 It's just like, you know, you know what the executives 0:10:48.120 --> 0:10:50.200 a v H one, Oh no. 0:10:51.280 --> 0:10:52.440 What's funny. When you were young? 0:10:52.760 --> 0:10:54.880 I was twelve, House Party came out. When you were young, 0:10:54.920 --> 0:10:57.320 you're thinking to yourself, and that's what jail is. So 0:10:57.360 --> 0:10:59.640 I just looked at from the perspective of you were 0:10:59.679 --> 0:11:09.120 just trying to take your butt right, that's. 0:11:06.200 --> 0:11:07.559 Number one priority. 0:11:10.440 --> 0:11:13.680 If you remember, there was I think I said one 0:11:13.720 --> 0:11:17.000 line was coming from the heart, from the center, the 0:11:17.120 --> 0:11:19.760 sign on my ass. 0:11:18.200 --> 0:11:25.160 And guess what we did this. 0:11:25.320 --> 0:11:27.640 We shot it at eighty nine. It came out of ninety. 0:11:27.840 --> 0:11:31.600 Nobody better than I. They were like, yeah, man. 0:11:32.440 --> 0:11:35.000 Freaking broke Wranglers. 0:11:34.400 --> 0:11:36.679 You know the only thing we fought for in that 0:11:36.800 --> 0:11:40.240 movie is that new line cinema out of nowhere. 0:11:40.400 --> 0:11:42.200 They wanted to make it PG. Thirteen. 0:11:43.559 --> 0:11:45.160 We went, I couldn't been. 0:11:49.120 --> 0:11:50.439 They would have warded it down. 0:11:51.280 --> 0:11:57.600 Oh my god, you know what you know that didn't happen. 0:11:58.280 --> 0:12:00.719 Yeah, you know what I'm saying because to B. B 0:12:00.840 --> 0:12:05.760 always makes his point and rightly. So you know the vernacular, 0:12:05.920 --> 0:12:08.800 you know, even in the jail rap or I smell pussy, 0:12:08.840 --> 0:12:09.560 the cuss words. 0:12:09.760 --> 0:12:12.600 I mean, that's how that's how we all spoke at that. 0:12:12.520 --> 0:12:16.040 Time in our lives as teenagers, you know what I mean? 0:12:16.559 --> 0:12:19.280 And and that's why that's why it holds up, it 0:12:19.320 --> 0:12:22.400 holds up to this day because it wasn't just about 0:12:22.480 --> 0:12:24.720 kidd and Play. Kid and Play was top line, but 0:12:24.800 --> 0:12:27.640 this became an ensemble movie. So you went from kidd 0:12:27.720 --> 0:12:29.920 and Play, You went to Full Force, You went to 0:12:30.000 --> 0:12:33.880 Robin Harris, you went to John Witherspoon, next Door talking Ship, 0:12:34.600 --> 0:12:38.440 George Clinton, you went to T and AJ showing that 0:12:38.600 --> 0:12:43.120 bond between homegirls and this is that little little rivalry. 0:12:42.720 --> 0:12:46.319 Darald Chill Mill peace right. 0:12:46.880 --> 0:12:49.400 So uh you know, And that's how that's how it evolved, 0:12:49.440 --> 0:12:53.439 and that's how why it's stood so strong to this day. 0:12:53.520 --> 0:12:55.079 And all the writing that you did, did you write 0:12:55.120 --> 0:12:57.360 for play as well, or did he write things that 0:12:57.400 --> 0:12:59.360 he did and himself well? 0:12:59.400 --> 0:13:03.480 And that the movie In terms of the battle, I 0:13:03.520 --> 0:13:07.720 wrote both parts because and early on that that would 0:13:07.720 --> 0:13:08.840 happen from time to time. 0:13:09.520 --> 0:13:10.319 He and I were so. 0:13:10.400 --> 0:13:14.440 Tight that I knew I knew how to write for him, 0:13:14.559 --> 0:13:16.719 to put him in the best position possible, you know 0:13:16.760 --> 0:13:19.040 what I mean. And obviously we're together all the time. 0:13:19.080 --> 0:13:21.520 I know how he thinks and stuff like that. And 0:13:21.600 --> 0:13:24.280 also too, you can't just think of the rap battle 0:13:24.320 --> 0:13:26.640 as a battle per se. You have to think of 0:13:26.679 --> 0:13:30.160 it in terms of it, you know, theatrically and and 0:13:30.200 --> 0:13:33.240 how you're writing it. You know, Play has to he 0:13:33.360 --> 0:13:34.160 has to take. 0:13:34.000 --> 0:13:34.800 The early lead. 0:13:35.240 --> 0:13:36.840 He has to be you know, he has to be 0:13:36.880 --> 0:13:40.080 whipping my ass basically the first part of the of 0:13:40.120 --> 0:13:40.640 the battle. 0:13:40.920 --> 0:13:42.480 And then in the end, you know what I mean, 0:13:42.559 --> 0:13:43.120 I come. 0:13:43.000 --> 0:13:45.199 When I come riding in on the horse to kind 0:13:45.200 --> 0:13:46.640 of take it in the end, you know what I'm saying. 0:13:46.720 --> 0:13:48.400 Yeah, But she didn't ask about the chemistry. 0:13:48.480 --> 0:13:51.520 She just basically said, so all this time in your career, 0:13:51.640 --> 0:13:53.240 you've been the ghost writer for Play. 0:13:53.480 --> 0:13:55.760 No, no, no, that's that that would be, that would 0:13:55.760 --> 0:13:57.720 be That is not. 0:13:57.600 --> 0:13:59.960 What I specifically what I was going to go back. 0:14:00.000 --> 0:14:01.360 I can ask a second question because I didn't. I 0:14:01.360 --> 0:14:02.720 want to know that was down. 0:14:02.760 --> 0:14:05.360 That would be inaccurate. I mean, somebody did a lot, 0:14:05.480 --> 0:14:06.160 a lot. I didn't. 0:14:06.200 --> 0:14:10.240 But if you're talking about that particular thing, yeah, I mean, look, 0:14:10.360 --> 0:14:15.760 we all between myself, Play and Herbie Lovebug, we were 0:14:15.760 --> 0:14:18.480 all together. We were a team, but everybody had their 0:14:18.520 --> 0:14:22.080 own kind of superpowers. My thing was the lyrics, you 0:14:22.080 --> 0:14:25.720 know on the music. Tip plays genius was. You know, 0:14:25.760 --> 0:14:28.040 He's the reason we looked the way we looked. He's 0:14:28.080 --> 0:14:31.320 the reason why we look cool. He's the reason why 0:14:31.440 --> 0:14:33.480 we dressed the way we dressed. He's the reason why 0:14:33.560 --> 0:14:36.320 the album covers, which were very important at that time, 0:14:36.800 --> 0:14:39.480 were styled the way they were. He's the one with 0:14:39.560 --> 0:14:43.200 the concepts of the music videos. Herbie oversaw everything. Herbie 0:14:43.200 --> 0:14:46.040 made the beats. Herbie was the one that you brought. 0:14:46.640 --> 0:14:48.440 You brought the record to him when you thought it 0:14:48.520 --> 0:14:50.840 was done, and he's like, no, it's not done. I mean, 0:14:50.920 --> 0:14:55.200 Herbie was Diddy before Diddy, you know, musically and creatively. 0:14:55.840 --> 0:14:57.080 So that's the thing. 0:14:57.200 --> 0:15:00.600 So when so when it was time for each one 0:15:00.680 --> 0:15:02.720 of us to kind of lean into those our little 0:15:02.720 --> 0:15:06.760 special power. You know, we did that as long as 0:15:06.800 --> 0:15:07.520 we win in the end. 0:15:07.600 --> 0:15:10.840 What you asked, what your flat top? Right, you didn't 0:15:10.840 --> 0:15:13.200 have a typical flat tip. That he was like foot 0:15:13.240 --> 0:15:15.640 long pause. Right when you got that flat tip and 0:15:15.680 --> 0:15:17.600 you came home with that, what did your mother say 0:15:17.600 --> 0:15:18.080 at that time? 0:15:18.200 --> 0:15:18.280 Like? 0:15:18.720 --> 0:15:20.000 Right, what did your family say? 0:15:20.120 --> 0:15:22.680 Well, well, my mother had passed by then, God rest 0:15:22.720 --> 0:15:26.040 his sword, so I would have gave that white woman 0:15:26.080 --> 0:15:30.200 a heart attack. Okay, but no, my my I was 0:15:30.240 --> 0:15:33.320 raised by my Jamaican father, so he was none too pleased. 0:15:33.680 --> 0:15:36.880 He's like, your air looked like ebra. I'm Lincoln's hot, 0:15:40.280 --> 0:15:42.640 and my father was He was not. He was Jamaican 0:15:42.640 --> 0:15:45.120 and he was not a proponent of the hip hop life. 0:15:45.240 --> 0:15:50.520 You just love this black life, don't you. 0:15:53.760 --> 0:15:56.200 You're He never called it hip hop music. He said, 0:15:56.280 --> 0:16:00.600 y'all just love this, y'all got y'all got mulesic. And 0:16:00.680 --> 0:16:03.520 then after everything blows up, you know, he retired. 0:16:03.640 --> 0:16:06.440 I took him to the dealership to buy him a car. 0:16:06.640 --> 0:16:08.200 He was like, I always believed in. 0:16:08.200 --> 0:16:16.200 You give me that black legs us. 0:16:19.520 --> 0:16:21.120 Throw some DS on nothing. 0:16:25.400 --> 0:16:27.880 No, I just you know what I had to I 0:16:27.960 --> 0:16:31.560 wanted to use the same instinct that told me to 0:16:31.600 --> 0:16:34.520 do the high top in the first place. I always 0:16:34.560 --> 0:16:37.640 trusted that the same instinct would tell me when it 0:16:37.680 --> 0:16:41.600 was time to move off. So we had an opportunity 0:16:41.640 --> 0:16:44.800 when we started doing the movie Class Act, where I 0:16:44.880 --> 0:16:48.000 knew there was gonna be an opportunity to move to 0:16:48.400 --> 0:16:50.960 a different hairstyle, being the twist or dreads or what 0:16:51.040 --> 0:16:54.680 it eventually became. And uh so that's when I made 0:16:54.720 --> 0:16:57.600 the move, and I almost got in trouble for it. 0:16:57.680 --> 0:16:59.880 We always got in trouble when Warner Brothers signed us 0:17:00.040 --> 0:17:01.840 of that film and they heard I was thinking about 0:17:01.960 --> 0:17:06.119 changing the hot top, they threatened to sue us because 0:17:06.160 --> 0:17:07.960 they felt like, we're buying everything. 0:17:08.160 --> 0:17:11.960 Nigga, we're getting all that, you know what I mean. 0:17:12.400 --> 0:17:14.879 So we went back and forth when we compromised in 0:17:14.960 --> 0:17:18.160 terms of I would start the movie with the high 0:17:18.200 --> 0:17:21.359 top and then and then go to the twist, and 0:17:21.400 --> 0:17:24.680 then I never went back. And so this is shooting 0:17:24.720 --> 0:17:26.920 in like ninety one ninety two, so I haven't worn 0:17:27.000 --> 0:17:30.440 it since then, but it's still ever present. I think 0:17:30.560 --> 0:17:34.120 I think someone's working on a tombstone. 0:17:33.440 --> 0:17:37.640 That looked like a hot time. I will eventually be buried, 0:17:38.280 --> 0:17:38.960 but that's one. 0:17:38.880 --> 0:17:41.919 Of those things you can't you can't anticipate that either, 0:17:42.119 --> 0:17:45.240 that that's gonna resonate so many years. 0:17:45.040 --> 0:17:47.280 Going after brothers the full force. You know, y'all always 0:17:47.320 --> 0:17:51.439 noticed producers and musicians. Right when y'all started playing the 0:17:51.520 --> 0:17:54.160 villains comedic Villains and House Party? When did you realize 0:17:54.160 --> 0:17:57.320 that you had to have versatility in entertainment? 0:18:00.119 --> 0:18:02.480 You up, but that's kind of think that's kind of 0:18:02.480 --> 0:18:04.359 what you did in House Party because you kind of 0:18:04.400 --> 0:18:06.000 you kind of played that role in Cross. 0:18:05.800 --> 0:18:06.879 Groove right right. 0:18:06.880 --> 0:18:08.880 You know what I mean groove. 0:18:09.080 --> 0:18:11.800 A lot of people don't know is that from kids. 0:18:12.240 --> 0:18:16.120 You know, we were always acting, always doing skits, making 0:18:16.119 --> 0:18:20.399 our parents watch and lou like for five Christmases in 0:18:20.440 --> 0:18:23.399 a row sometime he was twelve, he would get the 0:18:23.400 --> 0:18:27.280 same thing for Christmas. Canna give a show projector so 0:18:27.400 --> 0:18:29.760 he was always like filming and making us. I mean, 0:18:29.800 --> 0:18:33.080 he was making us do these plays. So when we 0:18:33.560 --> 0:18:36.840 when we started acting and doing it as we got older, 0:18:37.640 --> 0:18:39.560 people didn't know. But for us it was like nothing 0:18:39.680 --> 0:18:42.800 like if you remember the scene with us in the 0:18:42.880 --> 0:18:48.840 lunch room and I'm punching kid and then Luis goes, wait, wait, wait, okay, no, no, no, no, 0:18:48.840 --> 0:18:50.679 none of that's in the script. Matter of fact, a 0:18:50.720 --> 0:18:52.960 lot of things we did happen right there on set 0:18:53.720 --> 0:18:56.159 and we're just winging it the wrap all all of that. 0:18:56.320 --> 0:18:59.960 But that's because us, as kids doing it, we kind 0:19:00.200 --> 0:19:02.679 to know what you're gonna say, or if we don't, 0:19:02.720 --> 0:19:03.560 we play off of it. 0:19:03.760 --> 0:19:06.040 So y'all always understood the power of versatility. 0:19:06.119 --> 0:19:09.600 Yes, yeah, and it was a natural progression for us. 0:19:09.640 --> 0:19:13.159